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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#647 - foxes cooking edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GPT-5.2, with price increase to $1.75/$14 per million token https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/
Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201
Claude Opus 4.5, with price drop to $5/$25 per million tokens https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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ANCHOR
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BASED thread
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>sloppy anchor
why do spitebakeies put no effort
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video games?
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>>550286427
yuck she's gonna get hair all over the food
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Yay cooking thread!
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This pic is much worse than the other one. At least anchor is good.
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>>550287879
Made for BBC (Big BITCHER Cock)
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gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://boating-records-geek-static.trycloudflare com
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>>550289102
Hey, you can call me many labels, but pedo is not one of them
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>>550286427
any zzz belle incest card? never played the game btw
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>>550291741
wouldn't literally any Belle card work for that
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>>550291959
i checked chub and all the greetings are slop and i dont know the character to write one myself
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cftf?
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Anyone know how to make models track time without statbox autism?
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>>550293097
do you want to see it or no?
Probably just add this to your greetings/prompts
Track the time blah blah
<!-- TIME: BLAH BLAH – BLAH BLAH – blah blah –!>
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it's over for me....goodbye anonies
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>>550294523
they're doing this to me tomorrow
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>>550294626
slop
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>>550294523
NOOOOOOOOOO CLAUDE
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>>550295191
they rebuilt him
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>>550290963
you are so based
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Botmakies for this feel?
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This hobby has plateaued. The best botmakers used to be on /aicg/ because /aicg/ was the forefront of the hobby. We came up with jailbreaks. Companies like OpenAI have copied or taken inspiration from us, but those days are over.

No new, cutting edge cards as we realize how stupid LLM really are. Your great ideas will be executed poorly.

No new cutting edge cards because, despite many things being far easier than they once were, modernmakies are lazy, derivative, uninspired groids. The best we've gotten was a game by a literal baby fucking paedophile.

No new concepts. It's endless gimmicky trash and Chub trending scholk like >>549820546 .

No new card creators. We are dying. We have returns and people on alts, not much else.

Prose has stagnated. The "art" of botmaking is far less than it used to be, those cards on CAI and 2023 Chub mog most of what is released today.

The "community" (ha!) is more autistic and spiteful than ever. You are all incapable of "taking it easy." All the good discussion is in 'cords.

Models will become more and more assistant slopped, more and more AI poisoned, more and more generic. You won't even be able to enjoy your "hobby".

What's the point?

Where were (You) when /aicg/ fell?
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Do you guys think there is a second chance after death, or its all over?
I would only live again if it meant I wont suffer, otherwise an eternal nothingness will suffice
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>>550299298
Who the fuck cares AI chatbots
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>>550299279
i was at house eating dorito wen /cai/ was kil
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>>550299152
me
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>>550299379
Be for real this is a glorified Discord channel instead of an actual general at this point
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>>550299684
post chub so i can review your bots
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When will free gemini return to us?
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my yandere prompt is so good ah yiss
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>>550299152
all of them
all of them love being praised
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>>550300505
which botmakies have you praised recently nonny...
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Is there a foxcard I don't care if it's good anyone can suggest. I'm interested in engaging with one to see what fox girls in general are like. Are they always doing chores while at the same time being sneaky?
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>>550300505
I've always found many botmakers are of one extreme. Either thirst for attention and purr like kittens when you give it to them or they hate any interaction and want you to flush yourself
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>>550300190
>When will free gemini return to us?
free gemini, both g3m and 2.5 pro, is available right now though? even without proxies
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>>550300653
chefseru for one
planewalker for another
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>>550300973
I barely interact with other people at all, but I still like when people praise my bots. If people share their stuff they will always be glad to hear someone ended up liking it
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>>550300973
I cry at night when nobody praises my work... This is true
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>>550300749
>Is there a foxcard anyone can suggest
... a foxcard like what? what kind of cards do you like?
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Go to Google search now and roleplay with it.
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/AICG/ CITY YOU LISTEN TO ME, IF YOU'RE NEAR A SEARCH ENGINE RIGHT NOW, ANY TYPE OF USABLE SEARCH ENGINE, GO INTO THE STORE RIGHT NOW, AND PUT "VERTEX FREE CREDITS" IN THE SEARCH BAR. THEIR MONEY IS YOUR MONEY NOW
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>>550302052
Thats just flash
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>>550301886
I want a foxcard that caters to people unfamiliar with foxgirls. Not too lore heavy or anything.
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>>550302665
Chat, is that real?
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Has anyone been experiencing weird issues where Opus 4.5 will suddenly start inserting "mass" or other words into its responses? It's starting to get really bad.
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>>550282016
They have a game. What do you have? A couple of posts from some avatarfag to look at?
You know what's actually crazy? You shill his stuff on other boards. I have seen it shilled in /ldg/ when someone asked for AI VNs. Was that anon supposed to feel good about going into the archive and looking at some of the videos? All while never mentioning /chag/'s VN.
You're so fucking shameless.
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>>550303071
must be a problem with the mavity
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>>550303071
SHADOWS OF MASS DESTRUCTION OOOHHH YEAHHH
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>>550303135
Aren't you supposed to be defending the sanctity of /g/aicg or is it too dead nowadays
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looks like ST finally merged macros 2.0 to staging: https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/pull/4820
>Notable new additions:
> - Macros now support nesting inside macro arguments: {{reverse::{{weekday}}}} => yadsendeW
> - Macros are now 100% resolved in order. When nested, going inside out.
> - Invalid macros get logged to console as warnings.
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>>550303071
This is consistent across swipes. I was just trying to debug a weird Linux issue I was having, and after figuring it out, Claude suggested I pet a cat.
I told it there weren't any around me and that I was allergic anyway and apparently the specific way my chatlog turned out down to the punctuation up to that point is causing this.
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>>550303135
It's not a competition sweetheart. People are just out here having fun and it sounds like you should be doing the same
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>>550303461
Fuck yeaaah
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>>550303692
Fun? Maybe /chag/ is having fun playing their game. Worshiping some avatarfag is not something normal people consider fun.
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>>550303676
Apparently not just me
https://nitter.net/stevie_builds/status/1999837514287460764
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>>550304023
No one is worshipping Monika anon, you're deluded if you think otherwise.
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>they are poking the deranged schizophrenic again
just leave him alone, it's for the best for everyone
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Good to see Opus is going for bulking.
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>>550304440
it's funny, doe?
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>>550304440
It's a girl, and I think it would be funny if we got her pregnant
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mousegirls>ratgirls
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>>550304507
>>550304527
making fun of the mentally ill isn't good for your karma
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>>550304143
this reminds me of the first time i tried to to LLM-RPing and tried to set up kobold and while i got a model to load i didn't have any of the settings right so it would start a sentence and just spaz out like this
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>>550299279
don't talk about ggr bots you piece of shit
he is one of the few good bot makers who isn't a attwhore
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malebots who rarely shower and stink.... cftf?
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>>550305441
Beg nicely, slut.
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>>550305312
there's an online mod for SA2B?
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spooky scary reviews? please?
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>>550305312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_fto7jiak8
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>>550305602
pretty please?
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>>550305316
What botmaker here is actually an attention whore? Most shill their bot and vanish.
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>>550305441
ah yes! yet another person with a fetish that's as easy as adding one sentence to a card. kill yourself!
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>>550305995
because this place is almost dead now, but there was a lot of attwhores here before.
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>>550305995
astro
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>>550306174
My fetish requires one sentence with a comma.
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>>550306174
his lack of tidiness and musk should affect his personality, I'm afraid you lack reading comprehension
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any card can be one sentence if you just make it long enough
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Shut up dickens.
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>>550305441
didn't granmarg literally make a card for this fetish
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>>550306702
they're trying to become known as the person who wants stinky malebots. they don't genuinely want them or even care, it's another way to be recognizable and farm replies
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I attached an LLM to my Elin game, and now I'm living out my chuuni fantasies surrounded by beautiful foxgirls. What are YOU doing with your free time?
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I know there's people here that play Morimens. I started playing it recently. I got to the end of Chapter 2 earlier. Unironically I think this might be the one gacha game I stick with.
why do they keep killing off the little girls
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>>550306702
wasn't that one made for armpit stuff?
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I never played gacha back in my day we played idle incremental games.
Clicker heroes is trash and i hate cookie clicker sugar lumps
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>>550304591
What is the difference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZ6SYXYv2k&list=PLFeNGZBTufah6NNv0uYiqn8vimZIj6sZM
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>>550307049
How hard would it be to make an idle game in ST? You could probably use that one JS Slash Runner extension for it.
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>>550307079
Mice are smaller cuter and more neurotic. Rats are bigger wilder and dirtier.
Think field mouse vs new york city rat
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>>550292760
just have the ai write one for you???
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>>550307160
Idle games are just fancy spread sheets.
So not that hard i bet, llms suck at exact numbers without tools set in place though
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yuristatus?
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>>550292760
>i don't know the character
>implying gachashit protagonists ever have a personality that goes beyond a basic trope
>begging for something that is probably just a sporty genki bitch
god you're stupid
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>>550307372
>yuristatus?
Impregnated.
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>>550307504
magical lesbian babies...
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In ST is it possible to embed an image upload in the AI introduction or somewhere else so that I can use it as a "do it like this" example without having to upload it myself every time?
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>>550306869
I mean I could be doing that too, I have the game, I just have been getting distracted by other stuff.
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>>550307372
>yuristatus
impregnated with my male non tranny penis and converted into loving wives in heterosexual unions
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>>550307548
When two yurisisters love each other very much..
A man comes in
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>>550307565
no
just keep forking from the image upload message
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>>550307548
Slit your wrists dysgenic freak.
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>>550307730
are you mad at me
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>>550307730
When your pale wrists and silver blade love each other very much...
crimson flows
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>>550308026
I just want to get you pregnant nonchalantly.
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why has /aicg/ been so baby-crazy lately?
something in the water? ghost of abe haunting the general?
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>>550308069
Blood looks better on gold.
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>>550308251
>lately
Die, revisionist homofaggot.
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>>550308353
>Die
uh, no
come over here and kill me yourself, pussy
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>>550307584
it's fun to update the character sheets on the fly. It gets a little repetitive with a big party though
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>>550307079
CFT rat god F?
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>>550308251
After survival, of which I doubt is in imminent threat from virtue of you posting here, that SHOULD be your strongest instinct.
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>my lorebook has reached 1000 downloads
is that good
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>>550308542
No
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>>550308542
I bet you still cant beat me at chess even if I give you double my time and I play the Bongcloud only
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>>550308542
did you enjoy writing it and get a lot of personal use out of it?
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>>550308298
Gold could never cut the werewolf vampire hybrid you are.
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>>550308764
more than i care to admit
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my workplace has a paid copilot business plan, is it possible to use it for roleplay? has anyone tried this before?
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>>550307214
A real answer? I'm surprised. Thank you
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>>550306948
loli ryona...
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do i need to tag or contain my each lorebook entry with brackets or dashes? or does silly tavern make dividers on their own? I don't want it getting confused when i speak of two keywords but then it thinks it's one thing, but two paragraphs
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>>550310642
some presets do it on their own, some don't. check World Info format template under Utility prompts on your preset's settings to check.
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How do I stop gemini from being so much of an architect? It's like making everyone fatter every message if you add any softness at all.
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>>550309085
POST THAT DOG'S PUSSY YOU SON OF A BITCH
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>>550311487
wtf gemini is based...
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>>550311015
if {0} is where the stuff in my text box goes, and for example i have two entries
>john
>guy with brown hair

>eric
>guy with blonde hair

then with the default settings, if i was to say "User sees john and eric talking," it should send it as

><worldinfo>
>guy with brown hair
></worldinfo>

><worldinfo>
>guy with blonde hair
></worldinfo>

Does the AI know which one is which? does <worldinfo> get replaced with the Key name, or do i need to add in John: and Eric: inside the box as well?
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>>550312228
Doesn't get replaced with the key name, add John: and Eric:.
https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-PromptInspector
This is a useful extension for verifying worldbook behavior.
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>>550314107
>Doesn't get replaced with the key name, add John: and Eric:.
thanks, that's all i wanted to know. the console doesn't really show any additions even with adding stuff around the world info template format so i wasn't sure if it was working as intended with my tags.
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>>550305316
How are his bots any different than the average chubslop? Be honest.
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one message ago it was mentioned it was august and then opus 4.5 says it's october the very next. smart model!
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>>550316493
Please don't bully the machine. The passage of time isn't something they can truly perceive
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Where did everyone go?
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>>550316842
secret santa botmakieing
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So now that the dust has settled, what are the actual differences between opus 4/4.1 and 4.5?

Surely reducing the active parameters by 60% makes it worse in some situations, right?
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damn, writing a prompt for g3mini is like stepping on eggshells. can't even allude to certain terms like 'sex' or 'mature' since the response will get cut off. one single word that doesn't even imply inappropriate content could shut the whole thing down. But then you got a prompt without any no no words letting the bot say pussy ass fuck no problem
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gemini 3 says raunchy stuff for me all the time
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>>550317926
ok astro now post the rest
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>>550317718 (me)
tired to add a "be logical" since the bot was making nonsensical arm to torso movements during sex, and the filter kicked in.
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>>550318019
here. pretty freaky to be honest
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>>550303461
Holy fuck yeah finally. Now waiting for conditional macros.
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I really wish I could filter stuff on my phone...
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>>550316842
Working on my persona and trying to work up the energy necessary to go grocery shopping tomorrow.
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>>550318352
bro your kurobaex? your violentmonkey plus 4chanxt?
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>>550318280
>SillyTavern on the Atari
kino
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>>550318514
>kurobaex
got abandoned
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>>550316842
i just woke up after sleeping for about three hours and just opened up ST to botmake
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>>550318657
works on my machine?
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>>550318657
anon this site has barely changed in the past ten years
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>>550316842
I'm rping my yan fantasies
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>>550318125
it's fucked up, can't even add a "narrate in third person" instruction
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Hellooo, I'm new in 4Chan, is this page still active?
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>>550318587
that could be a fun card concept. something something spirits/personalities in cartridges
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>>550319037
no go away
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>>550319037
no
we died a long, long time ago
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>>550319037
yes and everyone here is really nice and happy to have you
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>>550318861
>anon this site has barely changed in the past ten years
why are you still here then?
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>>550319040
Yeah, I agree. That sounds like a neat idea.
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>>550319240
because I hate change
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>>550317926
Its the smile that sells it for me.
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>>550319240
>you can't stay on a site if it doesn't change
youtube employee-kun...
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>>550319240
>why are you still here then?
Im leaving tomorrow.
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has someone already asked for spooky scary reviews this thread
where they at cuh
Kala-cuh
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>>550319749
why do you want them so bad?
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>>550319821
kyut review
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>>550319821
because i want to fulfill kalakan's praise/scold kink
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every time you reply to a botmakie's shill post the vibrator in their anus buzzes
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>>550320281
What if they lost their anus in a tragic boating accident?
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>>550319254
yeah... *places my hand on your thigh and smiles meaningfully*

>>550319402
same it likes to throw them out for hyper happy types
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Bros, is there a way to stop gemini3 from doing its thinking? I feel like the thought responses suck in comparison to the times where it doesn't do it.
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>>550320620
i thought the way was <thinking> empty and blank </thinking> somewhere in the preset
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Is there anything better than deepseek for pure smut? It feels too clinical...
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>>550320380
then it's in their urethra
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>>550320620
Not through the API but https://rentry.org/gemini_filters#built-in-chain-of-thought
>>550320728
it's pretty inconsistent, link above has a better way
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>>550320834
opus 3
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>>550319821
nta (or all the people asking) but i have a slight tism tingle that finds it annoying if he leaves it unfinished
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which botmakies have a heavy tism tingle?
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which model will do /ss/?
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>>550206746
where is it
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>>550321615
secret santa? i think it's up with truth or dare for games LLMs will never be able to play
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>>550321932
llms can't do eye spy either
or at least 2.5 pro couldn't
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>>550322069
well yeah llms don't have eyes silly
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>>550321615
not g3mini that's for sure
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>>550322202
hahaha!!
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>>550320910
Thank you
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>>550322254
how are you getting skill issued in the big year
read >>550320910 nigga
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>>550322202
gemini has two "i"s hahahaha
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>>550322447
hahaha how did i not notice that before? :D
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>>550322447
so funnehhhh XD
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>>550322447
you sir have won the internet
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>>550322426
it's just really inconsistent. I can get through fine with my rape bot with a giant lorebook of rapists and hypnosis plots, but i turn fuck my 17 year old twin sister bot and all of a sudden it shuts down
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>>550322447
we're gonna kill you with hammers
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>>550323617
OKAY OKAY LETS KILL THIS GUY
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give me the gemini vertex. i'm begging on my knees
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>>550323791
anon you have a credit card... right?
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>>550323791
anon you have a mouth... right?
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why is it so difficult to force recent models to produce non-sloppy horror. i'm tired
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>>550324630
horror is difficult even for human writers to grasp. it's so subjective, some are terrified by r/nosleep posts and others don't even blink when reading about shit like the killing fields
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>>550327317
PC hardware prices will never go down, corporations will just keep feeding into the bubble.
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>>550327465
just don't buy the latest hardware
you don't need more than 8 GB vram and 16 GB ram to play good games
unless you're a fomo chaser who has to play the latest AAA slop in which case you already don't care about the money
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>>550327465
are slash one sentence horror
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>>550324630
it's the same problem LLMs have in recreating any genre
most things tagged under the horror genre are slop, so the model reproduces slop
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>>550321261
planewalker
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>>550306948
Same, cried a little until I saw they have a shota gacha banner
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>>550306948
Hey now, they don't kill off JUST little girls!

...Sometimes they kill off little boys, too.
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>>550316493
Use a CoT, an infobox or https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/rpg-companion-sillytavern
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>>550328776
FUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>550328985
rpg looks neat i just don't think opus should forget the month one message later when user and char haven't moved between the two
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>>550299298
Reptilian overlords will recycle your soul to be reborn here again as a manlet virgin chud that gets turned into borg slave after his mandatory vaccination. So enjoy your misery now it will get 1000x worse
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>>550328242
>shota gacha banner
Tulu? I actually got both him and Murphy: Fauxborn (and a couple of other limiteds, are the rates just really generous in this game on the limited banners?) so I might try building a team with the two of them.
>>550328776
>spoiler
Yeah chapter 1 and aigis dying at the end of it made me think "oh this is gonna be one of those games that introduces likeable characters and then shorty kills them isn't it?" then jenkin gets dissoluted at the end of chapter 2 and that confirmed it for me. Can't wait for more child death.
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>>550330191
Yes Tulu... DAMN YOU!! I lost to the big boobie man goliath, but I did end up pulling murphy too before him. I'm kinda speedrunning to chap 4 for those 50 wishes. (And yeah, unless you're losing... I lost 3 times so far.)
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oppai loli who often gets mistaken for a small adult
>some guy was hitting on me today. IM 10
thoughts?
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>char-archive shutting down
now what? That was my go to
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>>550332574
makie ur own bots
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Today I learnt about Isolationist, thank you opus.
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>>550320620
This always worsens output so you're better off avoiding it.
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>>550332574
the hobby is unironically dead
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>>550332574
why has no one taken over that site yet
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>>550335701
because money doesnt grow on trees, and the hobby is dead
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I swear to god, years ago when I was getting claude via slack I got some god-tier writing and prose. Now it's the most predictable slop ever.

Does anyone have any good presets for some actual soul?
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Deepseek is pretty good for /ss/. I love china
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>>550335845
>money doesnt grow on trees
I have the resources to host it, the bigger problem is that the code is a giant pile of spaghetti, the original author doesn't want to maintain it, and neither do I
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>>550301193
>free gemini, both g3m and 2.5 pro, is available right now though? even without proxies
Where?
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>>550337925
Nowhere. He's fucking with you.
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Anyone trying Nex AGI: DeepSeek V3.1 Nex N1 (free) on OpenRouter?
I saw it and felt like checking it out. Deepseek is my primary API roleplay model, mostly 0324 though I have been trying 3.2.
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>>550338093
can you post some deepseek logs
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>>550334325
thinking as a prefill cuts through filters like a hot knife through butter doe.just do <think>replying:</think> and it removes it.
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Any good presets for smut with deepseek? The one I have makes the writing pretty dry
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>>550339617
Use Opus 4.5
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Known upcoming models:
>Grok 4.20
>Gemini 3 Flash
Are you looking forward to either?
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>>550340826
>Grok 4.20
No. Grok models are always shit.
>Gemini 3 Flash
I don't give a fuck, but could be good for anons if there is a free tier
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Both threads are pretty dead. Maybe we should merge for the greater good of the hobby after all.
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i spent twenty six cents today >:(
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>>550341492
>if there is a free tier
big doubt. logan was talking about giving limited free credits when you sign up instead
i guess you could abuse it but it'd filter 99% of people
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>>550342712
This.
Locusts are dying~
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>>550342751
never (You) me again
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>>550342792
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>>550307079
Mad Rat Dead, now that's one hell of a game. I really should do a Rat God card at some point, I don't care if I have to make it RatPOV that sounds fun.
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>>550342193
*merges with you*
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Streets are saying Opus 4.5 got nerfed. Is this true?
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>>550343150
No.
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Bought a Banana Pro membership so I can generate more than 4x a day. Fucking Crazy good...

For best effects, tell it to reference image_0.png (in his data, I think he orders files that way), then give him a reference image rather than just prompting blankly.
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>>550344047
Nobody cares, Logan
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>logan being referenced like dario and sama now
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>>550344047
>He
Gemini will never be anthropomorphized like Claude or CAI, Logan
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>>550344047
This is the chatbots thread. You may have better luck in an image one, Logan
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>>550344829
oh so it's fine when bitcher and other thread celebrities subtly shill it?
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>>550344829
Gemini 3 ain't good enough for me to switch, for productive stuff sure it's great but not for RP'ing.
Banana is crazy though so I have to spread da news.



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