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>Schedule
[JP] Nightmare Before Christmas ends 12/31 14:59 JST

>Current Gacha
[JP] SSR Ruggie/SR Floyd Nightmare Courier
[EN] Dawn Armor Silver

>Upcoming Gacha
[EN] SSR Handsome Tracksuit Vargas

>/twst/ pastebin (Hasn't been touched in fucking years)
https://rentry.org/twstfaq
>TWST wiki
https://twistedwonderland.wiki.gg/wiki/Twisted_Wonderland_Wiki
>Official Sites
https://twisted-wonderland.aniplex.co.jp/
https://disneytwistedwonderland.com/
>Official Twitter Accounts
https://twitter.com/twst_jp
https://twitter.com/twst_english

Translations of recently released content:
https://pastebin.com/byykAAyy

Previous Thread >>548724898
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The thread dying would've been a lot less embarrassing if we hadn't gone out on a roll call of people proving that the thread isn't dead. We're such losers.
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Does it seem to anyone else like en stopped messing with the translations sometime around book 6? Things have seemed pretty straight forward in 7. I like to think they learned their lesson after fucking up riddle and trey so bad they had to go back and undo what they themselves did but who knows.
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>>550323773
Yeah, how did the thread ended up dying lmao
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>>550330869
I'm telling you: you, me, and two people who hate each other. And three of us all in the same time zone.
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>>550330869
I used to be the resident Malleusfag bumping with lizard pictures but someone on here seems to hate him and diaso in general for whatever reason and whines every time they get the chance so I stopped
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>>550341301
That is when you double down and bump the thread every ten minutes with your best lizard representation, both cause that's your boy and also to annoy asses like that.
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>>550323773
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>>550337891
I just saw there's a new thread, and I admit what you're saying is funny.
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Will this thread last until Christmas? It's a bit strange not to have any non-Christmas-themed art in OP during the game's first Christmas event, especially on Christmas Day.
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justice for lizardsis
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>>550347667
Don't worry, he'll have a very important role in Book 8! Right?
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Hm. My cards with the highest attack stats are apparently Dorm Leona, Crewel, Vargas, Dorm Riddle and Dorm Malleus. And still getting my ass handed to me in exams.
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>>550341301
I don't post about them often but I love lizard-kun and the diaso family in general so don't worry about it anon
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I enjoy Malleus and find his fan club less annoying than the anti-mal people, unlike the fan clubs of other Boys Who Shall Not Be Named, who drive me insane even if their boy himself is fine.
Except for when they come after me for being a lionsis. It’s like come on guys we all love the inhuman princes with family issues we should be best friends actually, don’t get all defensive. Lizard is love, Lion is love.
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Love how Leona is casually thinking about food while Azul and Idia are just exploding in the background
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>>550341301
Is that hater still around? I haven't been around in a while admittedly, EN getting book 7 finale has me swing by again. Their spite was entertaining but >>550341698 is correct, I say that as someone who likes the autism lizard the least out of Dia boys
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>/twst/ dying again
Not on my watch
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What's in the basement, Viiru?
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>>550360128
Leona/Ruggie is great.
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>>550354710
>Boys Who Shall Not Be Named
Come on anon, do give some names. Not sure how things are on the japanese side of the fandom but based on my own experience, Malleus, Vil and Idia have the worst en fans.
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What do you think will happen after the last episode of the anime? They've already released a teaser for the second season, there's already been an announcement, so there won't be anything after the episode? Maybe a release date?
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Remember when Cater said he wanted to date Vil and rather than telling him that he wasn't interested Vil immediately tried to findom him
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>>550403021
I find it funny when I remember that out of the fanfics 214 of Vil/Cater on AO3, more than 100 were written by a single person.
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>>550403021
I loved that and I'm sad they took it out of en. Literally "Bitch you can't afford this" and "Yeah, I know."
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>>550407829
Peak fujo autism, I respect that.
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>>550413589
I know people keep calling Trey dad in the jp game but I wonder if anyone has ever called Cater mom
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>>550413589
Cater is not made to be the mediator for auspiticism. Only moirail.
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>>550407829
Meanwhile here I am struggling to put out a single chapter. I wish I had that person's power.
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>>550426353
VilCay fic?
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>>550427932
Sadly no, just some gen. Got like 20k worth of assorted shippy stuff sitting around my notes but none of it in presentable form yet.
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>>550428153
hhhhhhooooooottttttt oh. my god what is this game doing to me
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Man I'm seeing cringe "reaction" videos going around I can't imagine actually watching one. If they're all a bunch of people like "okay so this red-haired girl is the great-granddaughter of the queen of hearts" and stuff I might just lose my mind.
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Idia/Swing in 20 minutes, and final anime ep an hour after that? Busy busy busy
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So skullington is legit dead and a ghost then, running around halloweentown looking like he's still 16 but actually older than malleus
In the movie Oogie has that line, right? "I thought you were dead. You must be double dead." I wonder if Swing is gonna say it.
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guys the part of yuuken fighting riddle was so cheesey I got secondhand embarrassment even though I watched it by myself
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>>550451982
Even as a Yuu enjoyer, I really don't like that the manga makes the Yuus relevant to the OB fights. Like am I really supposed to believe this magicless shmuck is able to get the last hit on an out of control mage?
What the fuck is this captcha?
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All three CayAce sisters out there are losing their fucking MINDS right now
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>>550453254
I agree with you and also don't like it because it takes away from the significance of Trey and Cater and Ace and Deuce taking down Riddle, of Ruggie and Jack being who take down Leona, etc. They looked at the fat boy in Octa and went "nah" and gave it to Jade, and that made sense. That was amazing. We don't see who beat Riddle in the novel but we know it wasn't Yuuya, and Ruggie using Jack's body to take down Leona was fantastic in the other novel. No reason to stick the useless self-inserts into places and make it objectively worse story telling.
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Weak groovy alert! Weak groovy alert! Several class-B weak groovies entering your area!
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Skully my beloved…
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Yep, "What's This?" is the TWST tune. Gee, can't wait for it to be removed in a week and never show up for EN release.
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>>550453428
>make it objectively worse story telling.
I can't believe the people of /twst/ believe that having the main character actually do something rather than exist as a purely passive observer is bad story telling
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>>550460537
Oogie boogie snub
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>>550458981
Huh? All of the groovies (including Idia's) revealed today are good except for Jack's because his face kind of looks weird there for some reason.
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>>550462782
Kek is that Ruggie's real form?
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>>550461250
If your idea of a main character is "person who could easily be erased from the story, has no influence whatsoever, is regularly ignored and only exist in 3% of game story content" then sure, they're the main character I guess.
They're not the main character. They're called the "mc" for brevities sake, but don't kid yourself. Not everything is about Yuu. In fact, nothing is about Yuu, and hasn't been since 2020.
Yuuka and Yuuken didn't deserve the moment of taking down the overblotters.
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>>550454884
look at my baby hyena
look at him
look
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Oh hey speaking of the manga how crazy would it be if they dropped chapter 1 of Pomefiore tomorrow amiright.
Nah I just checked, it's just another Scarabia chapter we've already seen.
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>>550465304
>If your idea of a main character is "person who could easily be erased from the story, has no influence whatsoever, is regularly ignored and only exist in 3% of game story content" then sure, they're the main character I guess.
>They're not the main character
Yuuken is the protagonist and thus by definition the main character. That is what protagonist means.
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>>550462782
So then if Jack's UM switched with merfolk, does that mean Azul would be a real octopus or Jade/Floyd be eels?
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>>550461250
>>550465304
Everyone says “the manga having multiple Yuu’s proves that Yuu can be anyone!” And one of these days I swear I’m gonna respond “the manga having multiple Yuus proves that they are so inconsequential, so irrelevant, and matter so little to the plot that they can be anyone.”
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>>550466418
If your idea of a protagonist is someone who doesn’t actually need to exist at all for the story to reach the exact same ending, can have all his dialogue and actions removed with no influence on the plot, can literally disappear without anything changing then sure. You have a weird definition of protagonist but hey, so whatever you need to do to get yourself off. He’s not the protagonist. Yana even has an interview about how the main characters change according to game chapter. It’s not about you. Oops, I mean Yuu.
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>>550466639
Oh my god do you know how CUTE a true octo-zul would be. Also how dangerous cause Jade will fucking eat him without thinking twice about it.
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Oh my god how long has JP had the ability to combine Sam gacha rolls this is amazing
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>>550382550
This took me out, also I can’t believe they translated it directly. Can’t say “shit” but insinuating a torture dungeon is okay.
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Rook might have the best base card this series but Idia might have the best sprite. I’m not even an Idiasis but damn.
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>>550466898
You could say most of that about characters like Chief Bromden, if you really wanted to. But your English teacher probably wouldn't appreciate it if you did.
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>>550468273
Oh. I’m speaking to a 14 year old.
Okay sweetie, here is the thing: Main characters are defined by narrative agency and structural centrality. The Yuus don’t drive the plot, make key decisions, or shape the arc. Chief Bromden is literally the narrator whose perspective shapes the story, whereas the Yuus are not only optional, in the majority of the games content they do not even exist. They have no perspective. They are nothing.
They’re not even in master chef, a class literally about not using magic, which will never not be hilarious.
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>>550465841
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me that spoilers for Kuro should be dropped anytime now
>>550466639
>A real-looking purple octopus with glasses
CUTE
>>550467002
>Also how dangerous cause Jade will fucking eat him without thinking twice about it.
Kek
>>550468082
This is probably Idia's 2nd best sprite after his Ghost Marriage one, glad I got this card so fast
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I’m annoyed that I didn’t see the Ruggie-pick-pocketing plot twist coming because of course he did.
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>>550468849
I think my fav example of that was when the prefect didn’t show up in Sebek’s dorm personal story even tho it’s about Ace and Deuce’s class, which the prefect is in, too. Not even a mention, like they might as well not exist. The yume people get big mad if you mention it tho.
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>>550457658
Are you people blind why are we sleeping on this groovy he looks amazing
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>>550469547
Who's we? I LOVE it and everyone on my TL is talking about it
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>Everyone looking like a model
>Then there's Ace
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>>550470207
I saw this too, the post text was like “a billboard for a host club,” truth
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I swear there's a Yana interview or post somewhere that mentions the boys are the main characters that's why they have the most focus and do their own thing , instead of Yuu.
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>>550468849
>The Yuus don’t drive the plot, make key decisions, or shape the arc
Oh man, I guess not. We'll just ignore books 3 and 4. Fuck, man, I don't even care about Yuu in the slightest, but you're acting as if they've done nothing at all.
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Yuu will never be important nor the boys will care about yuu
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Today
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>>550471253
They don’t do anything at all. Book 3 could’ve been just Jack and book 4 just grim alone and literally not a single thing would change. They’re irrelevant. So irrelevant that they’re interchangeable.
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>>550470806
You’re not wrong, unless we hallucinated the same tweet. I distinctly remember mentioning it on Reddit right after I saw it and getting downvoted to hell.
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>>550472856
I don't give a shit about Yuu either but they did play an active role in book 3, that's probably the first and only time their presence was relevant.
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>>550473172
Not arguing with that. It’s was the most impact they have in the entire story, and yet they’re still entirely removable anyway.
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>>550467002
No no, he'd eat a couple legs then wait for them to regrow so he can eat MORE octopus. Always playing the long game.
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>>550469138
I think he will look like this. I bought one of these. It's cute.
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I saw a post about how the only two ships that EN speakers unanimously approve of is Lilia x Meleanor and Skully x Sebek. First one is obvious cause the loudest people are always the most basic of bitches but the second one is so funny. Is it cause Sebek is so unpopular with yumes or what.
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>>550475297
I saw this and got really confused, I don't think Skully x Sebek is popular; there are almost no fanfics, t least, I can read Silver/Sebek fanfics, but I was thinking it's only a matter of time before Westerners hate Skully x Sebek. After all, Skully is a ghost, over 100 years old, and lived a life after school. I think they haven't noticed the new age difference between them yet, right?
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>>550481576
I'm hungry for some tako now...
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Fuck, this is giving me diabetes
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>>550453289
Laughing at the yumes again. The mistletoe they were so excited for is between the boys only.
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>>550495583
What are you so mad for lol
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>>550495583
Who would even kiss Grim?
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>>550499789
Idia
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>>550465841
When do you think the Pomefiore manga will be announced? Scarabia was announced at the end of last year, right? And it's strange that there's only one manga currently, a few months ago there were three manga at the same time!
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>>550499789
Many people see Grim as a cute kitty and smooch their pets.
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>>550465841
>>550511826
I wish they would announce three new manga at the same time: Pomefiore, Glorious Masquerade, and Lost in the Book with Stitch.
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So Swing is still alive?
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>>550495583
I love it. My only qualm is they didn't actually have Cater turn his head to look at Ace at that part. They didn't need to animate actual kissing but just two chibi-round faces turned towards one another would've been top tier.
Can't complain too much though at least they didn't change it entirely to a shot of a fireplace or something, point for having the guts to put two boys physically close to one another in at all.
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>>550516846
I mean, Skully isn't alive alive either and we still got his card. So will Swing.
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>>550518730
Are they both dead
are they being ghosts together
are they married
was rollo the officiant
I need answers anon
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>>550518985
Eliza, Skully/Swing, Meleanor. Don't get married in twst guys you gonna die. Georgina and Shroud parents, watch out.
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>>550478056
So he canonically knows how to sew?
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>>550532545
I haven't read the thing yet to confirm but I dunno why he wouldn't, lots of people into fashion are also capable of doing their own alterations and stuff
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>>550475297
I finally came upon this post and I wonder how much of a bubble do en fans keep themselves in. This take is as bizarre as the people in the qrts saying 'nobody wants Rollo' when his card was revealed on JP, stuff that's not remotely true at all if one is anywhere outside of their sphere
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>>550539583
Rollo is so popular on jp twst it is hilarious and I love it. I love him too, he is so angry and high strung, Yana comes up with the best characters I swear to god.
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When's the next season for the anime?
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>>550546528
We have all the same information that you do.
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>>550458981
I'm not a first-year kind of person but I think Jack looks real good. I love how the art style gives him weight, somehow. Ruggie is great, but I guess Deuce's is...nope, he looks good too, usually the "wide open mouth" thing can get weird with Twst but it's pretty well done this time.
Silver's is adorable and I love the lighting, Lilia's is fantastic, Floyd's is a hard angle to pull off but I love how he looks in it, Cay Cay is #1 and I forgot where I was going with this.
They're better than the Playfulland groovies, hands down.
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Canceling my d+ account now that the anime is over yay, call me when Umehara shows up, October 2026
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Over 24 hours and the tl is still hot and sweaty about Idia’s sprite and the skin between his scarf thing and the jacket like seeing a Victorian lady’s ankle
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This happened last year too but the guys sing in English and I'm just like "oh dear. oh my. Please just...just sing the jp dub. really. it's fine." But the more I listen to it the more I like it. I have been listening to the engrish What's This on repeat all evening. It is adorable when you can tell apart who is singing what. Fucking. Shimazaki. I love that man.
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When, on what day do they usually announce the New Year's characters? And which characters do you want?
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>>550568530
I get them, not sure whether or not to be glad that Idia isn't aware of his own hotness.
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>>550577551
I know you're that weird engagement baiter from reddit and aren't actually expecting a response but anyway
2022 announced 12/27
2023 announced 12/25
2024 announced 12/26
2025 announced 12/26
So I think we've got a little over a week still
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>>550580291
People talk all the time about Idia being hot but his bon groovy is maybe the first time I've actually considered him to be attractive. And that's including fan art. He looks daaaamn good.
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>>550577551
You've asked this before intern-kun but anyway. As a filthy idiazu fujo, I want them both for this year but poor Epel is due for a non-birthday SSR so I think he'll get one during this event.
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>>550595653
Is Epel one of the least popular boys?
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>>550601747
I guess? He's one of my least favorites as well but I feel bad for his fans, they've been starving for a while.
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Saw this dumb discourse come up on my TL and wow that Brazil is fucking lame and boring. Kino's Brazil is 10x better than that shit
That series is so dumb bruh

>This isn't twst !!!
Kino general, get over it
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>>550601747
He's one of my least favorites for sure. I think it's cause we all know his schtick by now. It's an issue with all the first years, except Ace. They just don't have that much depth when compared to the older students.
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>>550626602
Are you talking about Hetalia? And now I'm curious about Kino's Brazil, what does him look like?
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>>550634141
Yeah, it was talking about Brazil's reveal in the recent Hetalia World Stars release.
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>>550626602
Why I'm not surprised that I'm not the only hetafag here? But yeah I agree, it's funny how Himaruya just copy-pastes the same 2-3 hairstyles on his male characters and as a result, many of them end up unintenionally looking like each other.
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>>550638862
Better be a Hetafag than a Homestuck one, that's for sure. If Grim does get a human form, will he sound like England/Britain?
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>Vargas drills start the day after Idia's birthday
What did EN mean by this
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>>550638862
>Why I'm not surprised that I'm not the only hetafag here?
We're all hetafags here.
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>>550642207
I'm real glad that fad passed me by. I hear of some of ya'lls drama sometimes and it sounds real obnoxious.
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>>550643842
I was lucky to find a pretty chill corner of the fandom (circa 2009) but even that place ended up devolving. It was great while it lasted though, best fandom experience I've ever had.
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>>550672548
Kind of depressing to think that we are less chill than hetalia of all things
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>>550676035
No anon, it was just chill compared to the rest of the hetalia fandom (or what I've heard of it). It eventually went downhill thanks to the usual pearl-clutching idiots and personal drama between RPers, I didn't stay long enough to watch it fully implode. I still miss the golden days though.

Back to the relevant topic, anyone know of any updated card tier list or somesuch? I've been dicking around kamigame but the ranking I managed to find looks 3 years old.
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Vargas!
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>>550677089
Yeah, we get new cards so quick that no one wants to have to keep a list like that updated
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I am once again rewatching the far out bjewel show. The concert moved it up from my least to second-most favorite song.
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>>550388269
CUDDLING
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Biggest surprise this event might have been that Jack's VA sounds amazing singing in English. Doesn't sound like Jack but does sound good.
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>>550388269
Cute Pom
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The guys Skully kissed confirmed gay. He didn't get the chance to do it for the Christmas boys.
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Wait, was there a new chapter of Scarabia this week? I haven't seen anyone commenting about it anywhere.
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>>550723343
No, it's the same chapter that got published online.
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>>550736907
kek
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I would still celebrate Desire Day over Bug Day. Never sorry, Oogie.
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>>550752460
God this shady hobo is so hot
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I enjoy how the bug tattoo got literally zero lore. UM related? Coin related? A curse? Something to do with prison? His BFF? His pet? Sentient? Controlled? No info. Love it.
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>>550765881
tako sex
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Rate our current Ramshackle dorm members.
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>>550777536
Swing > Skully > Rollo > Fellow/Gidel
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>>550777536
Who will be the last one?
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>>550784691
After reading about Swing's Skully-obsession I was surprised when Skully dipped in and out for just a cameo and they never actually met in the event. Poor Swing, so close yet so far.
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EN took out the part at the end where Lililia calls his boys children and replaced it with the word grown-ups, which is kind of the basis of ENs changes in a nutshell, really.
"He just called them children." - "No he didn't. In fact he said that they are all mature adults and had a small monologue about how nrc is not a high school and also everyone is legally an adult in every possible country but especially the USA."
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>>550799643
Huh. Did they replace the instances where Malleus refers to characters like they are children to him then
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>>550802054
Nope, that's still there, and Leona calling Malleus childish. Just the last part I think. Lilia has a line like "it's okay to cry because that's what children do" that EN erased, and the line before it is where they took out "children" and wrote in "grown ups." Both sad and funny.
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Got bloom idia from the free 20-roll. I'm so glad they introduced that system.
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>>550804948
That's the kind of thing that bothers me the most but I dunno why. Maybe cause it's just so shamelessly blatant? Just cutting stuff right out, turning it into the exact opposite of what the dialogue says. Even if it's not plot relevant info it's just like what. If it's not that big of a deal to leave it or remove it then just leave it in.
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>>550808543
Sad and cute?
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>>550777536
Heights are a bit of a mess
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>>550799643
I play on EN but I haven't actually read a story in like a year. I just take /twst/'s word for anything that happens
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Swing being alive and still around means he and Jamil can meet! Hooray!
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>>550848959
People really want to see Jamil interacting with him, right?
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Enma Yuuken is for...
Gonna miss him, but anyway time to cancel my D+ subscription and enjoy the merch
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>>550868342
Yep! One who likes bugs and one who hates them. Won't it be so fun to watch?
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>>550877562
Not really? He just faints when he sees bugs. And we've already seen what that was like.
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I wonder if that new event exhibition thing is gonna have character backgrounds and stuff for. the event boys. Give us the lore Yana. Give.
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Kind of feels weird to think we're not getting anything on Wednesday. A proper teaser for Season 2 or something would be amazing.
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>>550532674
This is gonna be like Idia's harveston groovy, isn't it. Eners that don't know how to read assuming that what the illustration shows is canon when it is actually the opposite.
I read the thing now and no, Floyd can't sew. He gets bored with the same movement over and over again. Talked about how he had to sew a thing for a class but did want to, so Jade sewed something for him instead. Jade is the one that can sew. Floyd ties to sew in the vignette but he sucks at it and gives no fucks, as is on brand.
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>>550928551
didn't want to*
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bump.
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>>550933007
Canon
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I enjoy how new fans will refer to characters by their full names as if there are multiple characters named "Riddle" in the franchise and if we do not specify "Rosehearts" then people might get confused about which one we mean.
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>>550945164
Like I can undertand tagging system, but in normal conversation like here or Discord, why say the full name?
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>>550924591
Nice
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>>550940650
Sexy
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>>550995979
How would their interaction go?
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>>550998651
Vox would give Idia lot of shit for being an otaku, but Idia can remark that even with the current tech and magic that goes on in Hell, it's not as advanced compare to where he is. Vox could try to strike a deal with Idia that if he helps him, Vox can help give Idia get absolute isolation.
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Epel should get a farmer/hillbilly outfit

Strawhat, a straw in his mouth. Overalls with a strap hanging loose and some boots. He'd look cute in that
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>>550947306
I dunno but it’s cute. I’ve seen it happen multiple times and it reminds me of JP honorifics. Since english doesn’t have -san but they’re new to the fandom and not familiar enough with the characters to be on a first-name basis they use full names instead.
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>>551026101
This reminds me of this time I was trying to write Deuce and had one hell of a time with honorifics (back before EN came out, so no official translation to base it on). Keeping "Surname-senpai" was not an option so in a few instances I had him go with full names too. Even to this day I don't think there's any option that hits the same as the original though.
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Ugh... FINE. I will bump the thread with the power of cute



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