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Merry Bergmas!

>Version 1.13.0 is now live!
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2679460/view/544472700657074186?l=english
>Metaphor: ReFantazio won Game of the Year 2025 from the Japan Game Awards
>The manga adaptation of Metaphor: ReFantazio will be published monthly in Shueisha's V Jump magazine, with an anime reportedly in the works.

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.co/MetaphorRefantaziovg
https://rentry.co/scenicvista

>Metaphor Manga (Chapter releases on the 19th of every month)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1023739

>How to Make an RPG With Katsura Hashino - Metaphor: ReFantazio (ENG)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EivtGe8xwfWrk7TXZbRqTgXmWk_iSnTW

>Metaphor Digital Artbook
https://mega.nz/file/VisTTLhB#G4epdYn-DfoS9QnkDccPaverj_LjwY35_VpCAsj8kTc

>Metaphor: ReFantazio Special Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kT8go1ScWljmvHOjpzywgsnV1fI036Ovg

>MetaphorFix (adds proper ultrawide, things, etc.)
https://github.com/Lyall/MetaphorFix/releases

>A Metaphor in Fantasy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eFkMJzc6ow

>Metaphor Orchestra Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXSEndmlj4

>Metaphor Live Reading Event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLzctQQ9h8

Common Questions
>"How should I build my MC?"
Realistically anything works, you won't brick yourself even on Hard or Regicide. Common consensus is a hybrid STR/MAG/AGI is best.
>"What is the best team comp?"
Just about everything works, do whatever you like the most and it'll work on any difficulty.
>"How should I manage my time?"
There's more than enough time in the game to 100%, do whatever you'd like.
>"Which royal virtues should I focus on?"
Prioritize eloquence and tolerance and avoid courage boosts.
>Royal Slash scales based on the higher of your STR or MAG.

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>>550323397
Can I still like this game or anime is le bad now?
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>>550324507
it turns out it was le french that was bad
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>>550323397
It should be illegal that I'm not having sex with this right now
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This game really doesn't need its own general.
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happy holidays!
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>>550328362
you don't really need your own general.
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>>550323397
sex
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>all posts today were done by exactly the same person and so is the OP
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>>550332512
>lying on the internet
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>>550323397
Sexoberg
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>>550332512
I made this post
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Klingerschizo humor is so boring
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>>550353958
he has not posted here for months bro
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>hiromoot nerfed the captcha into the ground because he's not even pretending that he's trying to keep bots off the site anymore
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Gallica is FINALLY out for delivery, fuck this ice storm shit
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>>550323397
I see a Hulk OP, I click. Simple as.
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>>550356830
the place feels slower than ever
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imagine if that human in the eht ria sea tentaclefucked fidelio in front of everyone lol would that be fucked up or what
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Christmasberg is hotter than Hannuknah
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>>550359148
you are off the rocker mister
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>>550343743
I've never made anything but the jack frost one
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>>550357998
your slower than ever lmao
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/eog/ bot and the image bot here are genuinely going to die with this captcha
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>>550378634
Bots that exist only in your head can solve captcha just fine
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>/hkg/ gone
>/e33/ gone
>/kcdg/ gone
>/meta/ is still here
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>>550381543
only the strong will remain
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Its time to merge
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If nothing else I will enjoy watching /uma/ slow the fuck down
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>>550385269
/uma/ has organic posters unlike here though
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>>550387572
Your conception wasn't organic
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one of gallica's wings broke because the plastic was too small and flimsy. currently supergluing it and at least it's not that noticeable
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>currently supergluing it
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>>550414087
There's the stuff in the rentry in the op
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>>550419085
the fake text on the signs and buildings in the fake reality makes me lol. imagine will saying yes to living there and it's just nonsense words, like yeah let's go to [nonsensical] coffee shop
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I hope studio zero teases something for new years
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>>550424475
Has famitsu done its end of year interviews yet? Sometimes they will ask an Atlus directory like Wada or Hashino what their plans are for the year and we may get a teaser.
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they fucked up the captcha
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>>550425296
Not yet, 2 weeks iirc
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>>550381543
not for long
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https://x.com/dailyguiabern
>just discovered this twitter account
jesus fucking christ
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>>550461262
>trans flag
Based
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>>550461957
>casually brings up random gore fantasies
checks out
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>>550468607
uncanny, and therefore uncanon to me. my wife is cuter than this
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>>550461262
louis is trans you chud
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Sex the berg
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>>550461262
>https://x.com/dailyguiabern
https://x.com/DailyCharadrius is better there's less stupidity
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>>550481039
This is still base af tbqh
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>>550461262
what is so bad about it? There are tons of daily accounts for everything, maybe even for your mom at this rate
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>>550490019
Normal people don't want to make their favorite characters bleed
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big five
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I just want to have sex with eupha already
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>>550493902
Nobody who plays Atlus games is normal, not even (You)
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>>550490019
it's too memey for me and i don't care to know the owner's personal opinion above the screenshots.
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>>550501590
I'm completely normal. The voices in my head all agree.
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>>550493902
fujos do
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>>550512051
I still can't get over he she is just chilling in scalding hot tea. At least make it milk or something.
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>>550512051
I still can't get over how I'm not having sex with her right now.
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You can't have sex with a fairy. Your dick won't fit.
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>>550521257
irrelevant
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>>550521257
fuck you, my dick is tiny
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>>550537974
I don't care how tiny you are, you are far past what an itty bitty fairy can handle without a horrifying painful death.
Sorry to the size fetishists but fairies are only romanceable with a human-sized fairy queen form. In which case they like all fae women (nymphs, nereids, dryads, etc.) are top tier waifus. Unless you want to go the Tinkerbell route and make it unrequited and unphysical.
I don't think fairies in Metaphor have any romance sentiments anyway. Gallia just kind of "don't be silly" whenever you suggest it. That's why picking her for the one on one scenes was disappointing. She rambles about the overall game themes like anxiety instead.
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>>550521257
life finds a way
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>>550544948
*stays observing*
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>>550558217
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>>550521257
fairies are stretchy
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I'm sorry that I've only just realized how great Metaphor has always been..
I'M SORRY FOR SHITPOSTING
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Gallirump
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>>550499220
you can't
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>>550570623
it's mid
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>>550585212
Oh shit I thought this was the e33 general
Where is the e33 general anyway
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This game and it's fans should all burn
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I want Metaphor Shadow of the Euphatree and Metaphor Nidiareign already
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>Manga completely avoided Johanna being executed
lol
this shit is fucking garbage
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>>550596331
she apologized tho
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>>550596497
sex
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>>550596404
She's going to jail but I kind of knew they were going this route as soon as the premise was changed from not trying to gain Louis' favor and infiltrate his ranks, and then again when they actually killed homo butera
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cute
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>>550596974
sea mentioned
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They wrote a new subplot about Homo Butera's head getting stolen which is something
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So I have a base PS5 and a PC with an RX6700XT.
Which platform provides better performance for this game?
I heard that the game runs like ass regardless of platform. I just want to know which platform is the least shit.
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>>550597678
you can install hulk ass mod with pc
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>>550597678
it doesn't, the PC port is just way more unstable because they weren't expecting so many people to buy the game on PC and had to make a bunch of patches after the demo came out shortly before release
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>>550597940
So is the PC port in a good state now?
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I know that the manga's demographic is unironically 12 year olds but I'm pretty sure even 12 year old can stand seeing a woman get beheaded offscreen.
Are they just not going to kill anyone in the manga?
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>>550604747
i'm sure it's just to ensure the manga has the capability to sell to as many audiences as possible. nobody is going to quit reading because it didn't happen on-screen, but these hypothetical children WOULD have missed out if there are restrictions on who can purchase/read it
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>>550604747
they'll kill Louis and Zorba
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>>550606010
They already didn't kill Zorba the first time kek
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>>550606595
Also technically Klinger didn't die either, they just completely erased him altogether
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>>550606010
the manga is already spoiling the Royal version where noone dies just like the anime for P5 hinted at Royal content
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Slopba
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>>550621865
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don't die yet /meta/
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>>550643192
don't worry I will keep keeping on
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>>550643192
no
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>>550643192
/meta/ isn't dying
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>>550663241
dumb buckethead
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>>550667961
I don't see you in that picture
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The world was unironically better without expedition 33 in it
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>>550680385
I hate music
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>>550675462
die chud
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/vg/ is was slower now during this time period
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my cat is trying to vore gallica...
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meow
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>>550714612
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Atlus abandoned this game I hope you all realize that.
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>>550732964
oh you
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Picked up the game again after half a year and just speedrunning the game on easy mode to see the story.
Just have to ask did I miss something or is the game just super unfun if you go through the whole game on hard mode? Just felt like grinding XP was annoying, normal battles drain resources like crazy, fights last too long and feels like not enough esence to level up enough archetypes to get buffs and debuffs.
Unlike persona were you supposed to just do a dungeon in multiple days instead of trying to do it in one go and just stick with the base archetype to farm up enough essence for the other skills? In about the middle portion of the game I just felt like I had no good party buffs or debuffs because both faker and commander had no real offensive skills at the start to have them in my line ups.
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I like the way enemies turn into trash mobs that you can kill without switching to a battle screen as you level up. This is better than P5/Royal's instant win mechanic. As someone who always grinds to an insane degree in JRPGs it makes it more comfy.
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we need schizos like ACK and the black tier asses guy to revive the thread
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>>550751478
What we really need is for the jrpg landscape to calm down a little bit
It's been a fiery wreck ever since e33 tried to encroach on the space, every jrpg community has been made worse by it just existing
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>>550756685
E33 will be forgotten soon again anyway, not like they even revived the thread for the dlc
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>>550762476
some games aren't meant for generals and all of E33 >discussion happens on /v/.
Not that this thread discusses anything
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>>550732964
no
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Do you anons think that Metaphor will actually get some more content or did it financially flop too hard and they're going back to only SMT and Persona?
Sex with Hulkenberg
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>>550778080
It literally was one of their bestsellers ever and the studios at Atlus are all independent, they only shuffle resources around if deadlines get close. Metaphor is considered another pillar by Hashino. Those fucks are just slow and will need time to either go for a re-release or a sequel.
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>>550778080
the only people that want you to think metaphor flopped are e33 simps unironically
they're the same people that want you to eat AI slop regularly
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>>550779052
>one of their bestsellers ever
You know this is not true, it's still lower than P5 overall
>Metaphor is considered another pillar by Hashino
Correction, he hoped that it would become another pillar, but evidently it's not. He's already moved on from it himself. Don't trust marketing talk, considering Atlus was so confident in SH2 being a revolution for the company.
You just have to admit that Metaphor is just an over and done work same as DDS almost 20 years ago.
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>>550782539
>it's still lower than their single far and away biggest seller of all time that's the 7th main entry in a long running series and been on the market with multiple releases and no proper follow up for almost a decade
coping
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>>550783131
what am I coping, you literally tried to pretend Metaphor was their best seller "ever" which is clearly not
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>>550783241
you can't read
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It's always people that can't speak english. Literally always, it's incredible
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>>550782539
>evidently it's not
source: Sandfall CEO's diary
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>>550783418
I know that you're dying to get a conversation at all but samefagging your own posts isn't healthy
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>>550783587
The fuck do you mean samefagging? I didn't even reply to anyone
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sexembourger
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>>550756685
On the one hand I agree button the other hand literally everyone making fun of it is really funny
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I think the worst music in the game is the landrunner "in travel" theme. When it takes to the skies, it gets better.
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>>550788452
Her ears are clipped in the portrait, which made me look at my old playthrough and confirm they still are there too. I wonder if this is normal or some kind of linux glitch (since I play in linux)? Seems like they shouldn´t be.
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>Hooman bad
Where's the sequel
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>page 5 after an hour
SEAchan is dead
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>>550805048
>page 5 after 12 minutes
it's over
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>>550805048
Good.
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>>550782539
You are such a loser, it's too funny
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>>550806341
sorry that you miss your boyfriend but I'm not him
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>>550809137
I don't really get why you are such a doomer about Metaphor and pretend your stance is the truth. Using "Evidently" just for an opinion doesn't form an argument. But arguing is pointless since neither of us can't prove our stance fully. It will become evident in 1-2 years what their plans are.
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>>550810589
we're more likely to see something next year/hear about it a little at the end of this year desu
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If P4slop really needs until the ass end of FY2027 to come out they might actually get another re-release out before that, Atlus' pipeline is barren as fuck
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Zorba
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>>550811584
I think they were too cheap to show something at Tga. Wasn't the price like a million for 3 mins. I bet at the Xbox show they pay nothing since they court them. So the one at january is our cope for anything related to Atlus.
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>>550835162
idk if MS is going to be worth it for them at this point, it's literally just persona and metaphor that they show at MS shows still and everything else is appearing on nintendo directs
I would actually not be surprised to see Metaphor at a sony event because of all the PS5 bundles and deals and shit they've been doing with it since Sony decided they wanted to get some marketshare back in Japan
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>This nintendo direct will have Metaphor news this time
>The summer fes will have news this time
>The xbox showcase will have news this time
>This other nintendo direct will have news this time
>TGS will have news this time
>TGA will have news this time
>b-but don't call me out on this or say i'm coping because i'm not okay?
Are you going to do this for another year
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>>550836979
>people talk about when the next chance of being news will likely be
>this is somehow coping
You know what's coping? [witty joke about Expedition 33 being a shit game goes here]
And actually keep up schizo, we're waiting to see if anyone from Studio Zero puts out a quick tease of something for new years in their holiday greetings
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>>550837202
>we're waiting to see if anyone from Studio Zero puts out a quick tease of something for new years in their holiday greetings
and when they don't, are you going to cope again that next relevant timeframe of news is going to have news this time, right?
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>>550837332
If Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo have events planned going into next year we will probably talk about whether it's likely there will be news at that too. And you will still be here seething about it and we know the REAL reason why. It starts with a P and ends with a d
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>>550356714
As soon as I think about her white pubes I lose my ability to think rationally.
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hotdogging fidelio's ass with a dick that's thicker than his wrists!
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>>550837402
>we
you're the only one talking about it
>seething
no, at some point you realize someone is a retard (you) that refuses to back down, almost like an EOfag thinking they'll be getting a new game soon
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>>550837605
falling back on everyone I don't like is one person is the same thing as saying that you give up
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From what I've heard hard difficulty is not very hard. Should I use a mod to unlock regicide for the first playthrough? Or would it be too annoying to play without NG+ stuff?
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>>550739847
This is so cute
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>>550838305
you're talking to people that've been playing atlus rpgs for years
just play it the way it's intended to be played, no one that's told you they did the game on regicide NG is telling the truth because you literally get softlocked in an early fight if you do
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>>550839051
Okay, I suspected something like that. I'll go with hard then.
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>>550837402
it's still amusing they will still be at it then, imagine being in a general of a game you want to see fail and die this long
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I keep thinking Eupha is wearing an arm cannon when I see the thumbnail for this image
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>>550778080
doesn't metaphor already outsell every single SMT games (persona games don't count)?
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>>550849298
yeah but you're not supposed to say that because you won't get your paycheck from sandfall
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>>550849298
It outsold almost every Persona game also
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Right now metaphor is #5 most downloaded on sony's critically acclaimed and fan approved store page, behind Fallout 4, it takes two, slop 33 and elden ring in that order
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>>550850000
lol
5 years outdated by the way
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The only reason why the hulknigger bothers to post "discussion" here in the Very Alive and Relevant game general is because Metaphor's reddit is even deadder than here
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>>550852410
Metaphor sold 2 million copies as of last April anon
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Starting my regicide fast playthrough today
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I like how for just one part of the game they kept the classic smt character icon for the map, and it rotates counterclockwise so you know will is a chaosfag which goes nicely with his love of travel
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Alright I have a serious problem with this fast playthrough
I keep not wanting to skip cutscenes
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>>550854529
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>>550862239
NO ONE fucming cares. No one talks about this game anymore or needs to be reminded that it exists. No one wants to hear about some cope playthrough you're doing because you want to pretend this game is popular when it was confirmed a flop by the publisher and was a huge mistake for everyone involved.
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>>550865648
I care.
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It was really unfortunate for Zorba that being half clemar he got one normal sized horn instead of two smaller ones.
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Any good metaphor feet art lately?
bump
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>>550891765
no one cares about metaphor anymore. there is no art
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>>550887608
it's such a shame for him since he has the prettiest horn of any clemar in the game
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fairy feet
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what do you say son, isn't it about time to retire this old general and move on?
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no. gay sex with fidelio
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bussin
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>page 10 after 2 hour
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Kill all schizos
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Persona 6 will be a mistake
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faeries in one piece bikinis, is this going to become standard? Because I like it.
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It mildly annoys be that yielding a turn deletes existing half-turn instead of turning another full-turn into a half-turn like it was in SMTV. And this mechanics wasn't very useful in SMTV in the first place, who decided it needed a nerf?
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>>550943982
it's not really new, she just does it the best
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I don't really get why someone is so determined to drive the regulars here away but it's probably just autism anyway so who really cares
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grr..
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>>550959821
If schizo could be understood they wouldn't be schizos...
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>>550947638
imo it's way more annoying the other way around because most SMTs with press turn and passing don't do that and I'm used to them
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I'm tempted to get this during sale for fairy ass but it's gonna have the issue all major atlus games have right? where they just rerelease the game with a few new things at the same price.
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>>550965161
they make big changes to the games each time
the only time when a re-release has played basically anything like the original beyond the battle system literally being the same base was P3FES
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>>550965348
That’s not really what I’m asking. I’m worried about whether there would be a more complete version later down the line so I don't waste money with a less "complete" game
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>>550966608
Haven't done the final fight yet but the game is good, didn't really feel like it missed anything to be complete.
Suppose if they do release a royal version I'd imagine a few new archetypes and another dungeon at the end of the game but never guaranteed that that version would happen.
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>>550966608
the game is complete as it is, just like P5 was complete as it was back in the past. They usually do revisions in re-release not with something they missed in the original vision but with something new they later think would fit. I am pretty certain there will be a re-release or alternative version in some way but it wouldn't need it at all. So your choice whether you wanna wait 2-3 years to be certain or get it in a sale or on gamepass. If they do a re-release I could at least see a cheaper upgrade being offered.
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>>550351705
Is there any romance or implied romance in the game? How is the writing?
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>>550978219
There is no actual romance. It is implied pretty strongly that a few of the girls have romantic feelings for MC, but it described as being put off until the main story matter is resolved.
The writing is subjective. Obviously most people here like it since they're discussing the game over a year later in the thread.
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>>550978219
>Is there any romance
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>>550977132
The bucket seat from the runner is what makes this image imo
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It went up one place from yesterday to #4
I get that it's on sale atm but it's BEEN on sale, maybe people are associating metaphor with PS more because of the recent moves that were made? because that's crazy for it to be downloaded that much compared to all these other things
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>>550978807
So typical anime then. Thanks. Thread is pretty dead though.

>>550984521
Pic related.
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>>550997343
you will save this place
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>>550978219
oh, there IS romance... it just isn't between the MC and any of the girls
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>>551011329
alright settle down
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Dire times for /meta/
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>>551016104
why, because you figured out none of your shitposts are working?
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>>550995923
>buying Fallout 4 and Bioshock Infinite
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I didn't know you could actually wake up the guard in the cathedral with that joke dialogue option lol

>>551017532
Both were free on ps+ forever ago
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>>551025930
Uhhh leftist bros this doesn't sound like a melting pot utopia where everyone is brown....
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> Bottomless
> thighhighs
What a slut Heismay is
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>>551028189
Assless chaps were pioneered by the biggest chads in fantasy games mind you
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>>551030217
I can't think of any who wore them but probably forgetting.
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Is this game wokeslop or is it worth playing?
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>>551052342
You think someone would've ai generated a shota Louis in the portrait art style by now
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>>551047820
yes
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>>551056445
there you go, someone did that without sloppa ai
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>>550675462
I hate it because people who hate RPGs got attracted to flies like shit to "real graphics" aka Unreal Engine, so now a decent RPG is treated like some sort of holy grail because "I hate anime" zoomers played their first RPG ever.
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>>550740495
What? My first playtrough was on Hard, there is no farming. If you just do all the side dungeons (not even all the sidequests as I missed a few) you will never be underleveled.
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Why is the protagonist brown? Is he Indian?
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>>551057310
90% of RPG players skip most of the side content and then complain. I made it up but it's true.
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>>551057310
Maybe I just did the ordering of content wrong because I wanted to get the main dungeon done with asap and then do the rest of the side quests, probably the smarter play is side content first and then one shot the main dungeon
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some nice christmas art this year
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>>551056797
I like how the interpretation of Louis being in the army is either "young teen" or "literally Tanya"
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Sex the berg
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>>551056797
Needs to be without the horns.
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>>551057180
It's mired in controversy after controversy now so at least it's getting its just desserts
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>>551062515
He was 12 in the army
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My hope for now is that the manga shows him. Next chapter we will see him again anyway, thank god...
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>The Kokasados in the tradia desert gives way reduced exp so you can't bungle the difficulty curve early on NG+
At least it's not really necessary.
Skipping most cutscenes and doing all main content (dungeons + followers) it took like 3 hours to get from startup to martira, hopefully I can get this run for my second 100% finished up pretty quick because I wanna grind out endgame on my main save file and try to get the igniter run to actually work
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