Previous: >>550282284 >NewsVersion 2.5 livestream will begin on December 19 at 19:30 (UTC+8)TGA 2025 Special Videohttps://youtu.be/X-g1N9mNjzsAgent Record | Ye Shunguanghttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/42397862Agent Record | Zhaohttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/42343300Version 2.4 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/hMZVmJ8ZGto >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/HUymJ5QYCAk (EN)https://youtu.be/sPvoLeIlZAk (JP)https://youtu.be/-GaV5ouXOOw (EN)https://youtu.be/8kZFOqOY6kU (JP)https://youtu.be/e0LoXFGJjSU (EN)https://youtu.be/2NKK6Mg27XI (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.4https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/161086All-New Program 11/25 - 12/29"En-Nah" Chess Saga 11/25 - 12/29Neo Golden Mecha 11/28 - 12/29Lightstream Notes 12/03 - 12/29Simulated Sequence Showdown 12/08 - 12/29Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 12/11 - 12/16"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 12/17 - 12/29100% Miss Bunny 12/17 - 12/29Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 12/24 - 12/29 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZ24KRAMPUSDialyn1125 >Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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>>550325989it's always like this before a banner ends
>>550325721>give character lots of skill expression>forced to make their base damage low so their ceiling isn't too high >now you have to work twice as hard just to do the same damage as old charactersThis is why ZZZ will never be able to design actual interesting characters. The gameplay depth is always limited by the gacha system which needs to shill new powercreep that even bad players will roll for.
i blame hp bloat for my skill issue
Truly our game mirrors reality, the best part of China is leaving.
>>550326268No, the best part of China is the food.
my meridians align and my fengshui is auspicious DJ burned a sign calling me suspiciousone more line and he beats me now thats vicious
>>550326359The best part of China is the food, the second best is leaving.
>>550325721Everyone loves Banyue-shifu!
Russian poll on character designs ranked.
>>550326456From what I recall, this poll involved between 8,000 and 9,000 people. So a decent sample size, I guess.
>shityabi on top>astra not #1
WHY ARE THERE S-RANK BALLS IN THE STABLE CHANNEL IM GOING TO KILL HOYO FOR THISJUST GIVE ME THE ICEY KNOT YOU FUCKS
>>550326456yuzuha #2?? thats surprisingi love her but would never guess that high
Sex with office ladies.
>>550326456belobog...
>>550326456>character designsFavourite character actually
>>550326456>Jane at 3>Lighter at 8You can tell which characters are Slav-coded from this list.
>>550326686thats a funny way to say "character designs ranked"
>>550326456>Hugo and Lighter so highNot surprising from the European capital of HIV.
>>550326716SoC is so unapologetically American genuinely what did you mean by this
>>550326456>Russian>Hate bearsHmm...
>>550326456I was told this was a single-vote poll, so take the results with a grain of salt. Characters that rank low might be nobody's favorite but they aren't necessarily the most hated, either.
>>550326716>fast food addicted police rat woman>american biker punchmanwut
post bangboo stonks for angels.you were saving right anon?
>>550326456We got an actual poll on favorite characters, it's called revenue. Why do people keep posting these useless polls?
>>550326745It's from telegram iirc, and telegram is full of women
>>550326803single votes makes it more trustworthy of their actual opinions, you have to really pick a favorit then imo
>>550326916which charts were those again?
>>550326916post the revenue chart with all 45 character on it, faggot
>>550326917>telegram is full of womenI thought it was full of pedophiles, drug dealers, and cryptobros?
>>550326916go ahead and post your fake charts or chinese polls we know you've been itching to push your agenda again
>>550326241I blame your lack of good agents what are those teams bwo
>>550326549is there anybody even in chinkland who thinks astra isn't a pretty shit design and character?
shunwon
>>550326745You sure do know alot about HIV stats, spent alot of time thinking about gay sex today?
>>550326936Single-votes mean people pick their favorites, but it doesn't provide a good overall picture of what people like necessarily.For example: if (hypothetically) Caesar was everybody's second-favorite but nobody's favorite, she would rank dead last despite being far from the least-liked agent.To get an accurate picture, you'd need everyone taking the poll to rank every agent from 1st to 45th place, and then tally the aggregate.
how do i explain to my work friends that theyre a nigger faggot worm waste of air pag eater if they roll banyue without making it sound like i spend too much time on 4chan and politically correct so i dont get fired im trying to help them out
>>550327206kill yourself paki
>>550327206You should sleep more
>>550327184I disagree single votes puts significant emphasis on a hardline choice for them and makes clear favorites stand out further. 1-45 only dilutes the pool with more varied opinions
The hardest thing to believe is the work friends part
>>550327184most of the popularity polls in anime follow that formula, no? It has to be the most accurate then
>>550327026Yes, but it also very popular with normalfag zoomers, at least in russia
>>550326241Is that last team a fucking DPS Soukaku lmao
https://poal.me/iy55bl
>>550326456Russians have better taste than the Chinese fan polls I can say that for certain, but theres clear winners between them.I would be curious to see fan polls between the regions and see who the top 10 consistently are. I bet Miyabi is #1-3 in every region.Belobog probably ranked low because they're all essentially permabricked from the first few months and early game woes
Mibi is more popular because she has the tism.
Why did Banyue fall asleep at the end of the trailer?
>>550327284The issue with single votes is that it disproportionately favors the extremely polarizing and disproportionately disfavors the more neutral choices.For example. Seed is an extremely polarizing character - probably one of the most polarizing besides Vivian - but the number reflected in the poll only represents the people who liked her enough to consider her their favorite without considering those who might say she's one of their least favorite.A lot of the characters people consider "decent but not my favorite" would probably rank higher than her in priority poll rather than a single-vote poll.
>>550327652He also has robo-dementia like Seed Sr.
>>550327652he has robot cancer
>>550326980>>550327025>>550327089Will get another one at the end of 2.x probably.
>>550327669when you allow more than one vote it allows weaker designs to hit median scoring, but im not gonna argue semantics about the veracity of fucking online polls
>>550327636Weapons grade spergegoid.
>>550327368If you mean single-voting, then I'd very much say it's not the most accurate, it's just the easiest logistically-speaking. Ranking 45 different characters takes a decent amount of time and effort, which can deter people from wanting to participate at all.If you mean ranked-choice voting, then yeah that's typically a lot more accurate to gauge general median popularity, whereas single-voting tends to favor extreme choices.
>>550327754
>>550327854yea i meant multiple choice
>>550327904all harumasa btw
bros...
>>550327770My point was that weaker designs are oftentimes less divisive, too, so even if they end up bland their aggregate popularity could be higher than more distinctive yet divisive choices. But you're right, not really worth getting into that much.
>>550327904harumasa clears
>>550327617>Stops drinking immediately remembers she drinks to forget.
What’s this marketing strategy of making animated trailers for characters then making the first one a 4 star and the second one so bad and complex that he is basically a 4 star and given a week long banner?
>Genshin is now yuri>HSR is now yuriZZZ is next
>>550328010There's no strategy
>>550328070brother can i get an english source for these moon runes and lines
>>550328061I remember HSR cutscenes looking better than this... what is this shit
The best way is just ask top 5 characters so if they asked me 1) Miyabi2) Alice 3) Corin4) Jane 5) Ellen
>>550328010A lot of characters have animated trailers, anon. Pulchra got an animated short and she was an A-Rank brought in with minimal fanfare.Also>4 star
>>550327120Her brother is a very lucky man
>>550328070Fan favourite characters like Lucia Elowen
>>550328061this was always the yuri/yaoi/homo/furry/cunny game desu
>>550328070UHFUFU BROS?
>>550328210Also botfucker.
Your move anon.
>>550328281Not until Aria drops with the proper form
>>550328070>>550328246>Fufu is higher than all of obol and spookers except yuzuha/aliceSTRONG
>>550328070There only one thing you can learn from this, whichever region this is taken from is populated entirely by METAniggers, look at Yuzuha's numbers good fucking god
i hope i get an early shungus
>>550328320We still got Billy, Qingyi, and Banyue. Also Elfy.
>>550328314Pull her up and over the counter
>>550328070>cuts off pre Yanagi to push an agenda about lighter and SoC not outselling 90% of 2.0 except Yuzuha
>>550328061We've been yuri bwo
>>550328061newcutie...
>>550327941I already play the endgame for the flashing colors it doesn't matter if he does negative damage
>lolipedos being delusional again
>>550328432holy fuck good nooticing
>>550327941B-B-B-B-BAD TO THE BONE
>>550327904>>550328070>>550328432
Question, how much could I milk Chinatsu
>>550328314>fluffy tummyIf she handed me this I would sell my soul to TOPs just to work near her and with Krampus.I truly understand why Damian did what he did, invest in Buncun.
>>550326456>trigger, lighter, burnice top tenI should have known russians would have decent taste
>>550328591Where's Damien been, anyway? We still have yet to see him in the HIA environmental suit.
>>550328440>>550328442ZZZ is a straightGOD game, stay in your own lane troons.
>>550328432it is funny how all last year the schizos memed and slammed charts here only for sons of calydon to actually have outsold almost every banner that wasn't a voidhunter or Yuzuha/EllenSons of Calydon is much more popular than the freak wankers here pretend sometimes
>>550328665Mmm nyo
>>550328665oh no a reference to the demoretard
>>550328569>how much lettuce do you wanthttps://youtu.be/qtF5dMzAF2k?t=70
Skipping dialyn
>>550328676They just did poorly compared to the first half of 1.X. Turns out everything has done poorly compared to the first half of 1.X, though, so by comparison SoC actually did fine.
>>550327467>Seed Manato and Banyue winninghow
>>550326602another npc to add to the "looks more interesting than Seed" list
>>550328716>>550328717Cope harder
>>550328791They left out Shungus and Zhao, mostly.
>>550328768that charts taken from china and they're the biggest metagolems anyways, we know a huge portion of income is form the west and console/pc
>>550328070Man stunners are just cursedSeed doomer on suicede watch btw
>>550328818you repost the same pics for months and gets btfo'd multiple times and yet you keep reposting and keep getting btfo'd but then cope and ignore and reposts and gets btfo'd again
wisewimp meltycunnyyaoiyurithese are the pillars of our community herewith robotfuckers trailing behind closelyML straightniggers can fuck off back to snowbreak or whatever pag shit you play
>>550328818What? I thought Miyabi was the canon love interest.
>>550328061>ZZZ is nextBro is posting from 2024
>>550328717Actual cope kek
bros I'm hungryshould I cut an apple or make some stir fry
>>550328939you can headcanon whatever you want, paggie
>>550328937>wisewimp melty>cunny>yaoi>yuri>these are the pillars of our community here>with robotfuckers trailing behind closely>ML straightniggers can fuck off back to snowbreak or whatever pag shit you play
>>550328997How hungry are you and what time is it there? If you're a fat fuck or it's late do the apple. If it's daytime for you make some real food
>>550328657he fucked off and is in hiding after Obol, they already gave us his setup>Fun fact, Damian had more screen time than Fufu or Panda/ and Murphy/Lucia/Obol
Once they go full self insert romance I want Coco to be romanceable
>>550329075It's like midnight, so apple it is.
>>550328657>>550329104its amazing how many people keep coping about him, considering how he was written out like pearlman
>>550328854Neither of those two have been released yet
>>550328997https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-mXMr8glQ
>last day of Dialyn's banner>been saving for YSG and no one elseDon't know if I'm getting bricked here...
>>550329157It wasn't asking in terms of gameplay.
>>550329151Perlman was funny I need to see him in more cutscenes
>>550329151Perlman was the best damn villain we ever had. Bringer could have surpassed him but the story got rushed before any of the dangling threads could be resolved.
>>550328791>what do you mean the sales don't represent which characters have the best designsgacha is filled with meta bugs
>>550329048More credibility to that then the HRT-fueled delusions of thinking this game is for metally ill faggots like you.
>>550329151Perlman and Damian are relevant for 3.0 as our best npcs, trust in the plan
Shifu is sooo cool, I think I just fell in love..
>>550329289They were so based for that
>>550329204>Attack agents like to be teamed up with Stun agents>Dialyn is not only a stunner, she's the best stunner periodwtf are you doin bro pull her
>>550329161This anon makes a compelling argument.
>>550328657Locked up in Zhao's sex dungeon
>>550329289so because belle is not a dyke somehow the game has a canon love interest now? lmaodid you even play that event? she's not awake for that. You can headcanon whatever you want, it's not real
>>550329278>entire setup for bringer and zhu yuan written from 1.0>scrapped so he could be REFINED with our rushed 1.6 endingjustice for our villians, they keep throwing away any good ones because they keep flipflopping on setups.1.0 should have been all bringer and NEPS working with SI6 to root out the corruption in the ranks2.0 should have been all yunkui and finding the cultists and TOPs too.
Nobody cares about Ye Shungus
>>550329506I care
Everyone cares about Ye Shunguang
Who asked?
Season 3 is going to be the mystery of finding out who keeps cumming inside of Obol Squad's locker room.
>>550329453>belle is not a dykeCheers
>>550329636
>>550329289of course the most mentally ill self inserting SEAfag is the first one to start pointing fingers. You're beyond delusional and patheticlook at the shit you cringe niggas say >>550329141 "once it goes full self insert romance" like there's an ounce of possibilityYall are fucking pathetic. Retarded ass SEA hours is always full of retarded niggas like you, i shouldve gone to sleep hours ago
Season 3 is really gonna be about Sunbringer huh
>>550329374YSG has less synergy with stunner compared to other agentsDA scores have shown her to perform incredibly close to Dialyn teams with Astra
>>550329747Loli (Old) (Furry)
>>550329713>mentally ill self inserting SEAfagI'm not a yuritroon though.
>>550329754Was that before or after her stun multiplier got fixed. Cause after that it was Astra and Zhao who were vying for the 3rd team slot while Dialyn was #2
>>550329665?? mentally ill faggot
>>550329747how the fuck is jufuflop old lol
>>550328791Banyue is just cool
why does this guy have multiple trans reddit screenshots
>>550329747>Koleda and Fufu>Old???
>>550329856kysfufu is adult
>>550328968actual retard kekit's literally a reference you dumb fuck
>>550329805After, not to mention YSG's kit needs her to use decibels on her first ult to increase the damage of the second ult which dialyn prevents from achieving
>>550329892he spends alot of time on that place saltmining and reposting it to his gacha grail discord server
>>550329892Some people hate reddit so much that they end up spending a lot of time on reddit looking for things to hate.
>>550329713Hey, retard they're literally pandering to all loser demographics. Self inserters, faggots, shippers, Indians, etc. Why you have to be so mad that they're here? Hoyo is the one throwing the bait and continuing to pander to them, to us, ya loser.
>>550329912if they aren't 18 but still loli they're haglolisif they're undr 18 theyre truecunny
DO I PULL DIALYN BEFORE SHE GOES AWAY FOREVERor save for astra
>>550329754>YSG has less synergy with stunner compared to other agentsBro... that was a bug, it was fixed like 3 weeks ago lol
>>550329991Ellen is under 18 though
>>550329747I choose a third path (Banyue).
>>550329814What? I'm just agreeing with you. Belle is not a dyke. Cheers!
>>550329892I think it's funny exposing yurifags for what they are.
Wisewimps...it's time to let it go. Belle is obviously our canon MC and the favored of the devs. Wise is chairman who watches from behind a screen just like (you).
>>550325721Flop incel game HAHA
>>550330042yes she is high school(normal) type
>>550329998Depends, you can get Dialyn now if you're skipping YSGOtherwise YSG's mindscapes are better than Dialyn if you already have three functioning teams
I want Dialyn for Banyue, right? Who's in the third slot if I don't have Lucia?
>>550330212Fufu
Explain why Shifu is always so low in popularity charts. >she is too perfect/boring/safeso is Miyabi but she is No. 1 in all of them.
>>550330137Genuine question, are you a woman or pretending to be one?
>HSR dropping a literal semen(Yuri) demon >ZZZ dropping Aura God Ashura. I love contrasts.
>>550330258>no lucia>no fufurip
>>550330212Panda
>>550330271>Why do Asians pull for meta after being conditioned to do so over decades>Why are mid designs not popular when devs force them through shilled meta idk
>>550330298Women don't use 4chan.
>>550330107
>>550330345Time to bring out your panda bro
>>550326456How is Anton so low? Man fights with a drill for an arm, that's badass.
>>550330368Don't Panda and Dialyn both need to be positioned after the Rupture agent? I guess Dialyn's bonus damage isn't very important compared to Panda's buffs, though.
>>550330094I hope brosis knows that no one’s reading all that
>>550326456holy mother of shit tastemiyabi's design is unironic dogshit and trigger being behind YX is proof that the majority is always retarded no matter the subject
>Miyabi still clearing endgame and popularity polls a year later after devs have done everything they can to tank her usage.
>>550330271>he doesn't know thing, japan
>>550330545>actually yixuan is a good design you're all just racistshalom
>>550330137realistically it should be 0 playable guys since zzz's gameplay filters women
>>550330517Now imagine Ye shunguangand there people who don't want dialyn getting her for the fucking new VH lmaoshe doesn't need anyone
>>550330271>>she is too perfect/boring/safe>so is Miyabi but she is No. 1 in all of them.Miyabi is an autist though. She isn't perfect at all.
>>550330593my bad let me correct >dogshit vomit, japan
What if they give out a free Harumasa again?
>>5503306321.x designs are something else, clear, coherent theme with no jarring features. Compare lucy and miyabi to lucia and yi xuan and it seems two completely different games.
>>550330459banyue-panda-dialyn for the sheer force buff yesdialyn will give the dmg bonus regardless, it's only the dmg of her own ex-rockscissorspaper>Additional Ability: External LineWhen another character in your squad is an Attack or Rupture character:When an EX Special Attack or Ultimate is activated, all squad members gain the Overwhelmingly Positive effect. While Overwhelmingly Positive is active, DMG dealt is increased by 40% for 15s. When Dialyn uses an EX Special Attack or Ultimate while Overwhelmingly Positive is active, if the remaining duration of Overwhelmingly Positive is less than 35s, its duration is extended by 10s.
>>550330517Miyabi has a really, really well designed kit. With busted numbers and an overpowered elemental effect but this is all possible because she's very versatile
>>550330632They don't play up the sketchy side of Yixuan enough. The way she solved peoples problems in that one video was fun and showcased a bit of deception on her part even if it was for a good cause. Miyabi's videos don't show any of her weaknesses, but it's all over her in-game shit with how she talks and acts around people.
>YOU DON'T NEED SHUNGUS SIG>BRIMSTONE IS GODLIKE ITS BROKEN ON HER>check brimstone>no def shred>no crit stats>no er stats>just atkcan someone explainmake it make sense please
>>550330593Her design actually is pretty good. Her character is incredibly boring, however. And she has no hype moments like Miyabi. No weird quirks that make her endearing. She’s way too safe. Way too by the numbers. And Lucia and Yidhari existing detract from her otherwise unique look.
>>550330657You could brand her chinese and people would still prefer her over yixuan. of course a better design than yixuan is not saying much and I personally don't give high credit to miyabbi either.
Bunny wife!Happy life!
>>550330271Miyabi acknowledges her flaws, which is why she's always training. And the funny thing about the training is that it's always some sort of dumb crap that has nothing to do with fixing her flaws.Shifu on the other hand... I can't remember a single personality trait or quirk that's interesting about her.
Still pisses me off how they dropped the ball on Lucia/Yidhari when the first 3 spook shack characters were so solid They even had the right idea with Lucia’s hoodie but then I guess the hoyo mind virus took over and insisted on BIG BOOBS AND HOTPANTS.
>>550330901Shungus already has really strong stats. More attack is very helpful which is why her sig is looking to only be 12% better than Brimstone.
>>550326456About 19 spots too low.
>>550330908lol if miyabi is chink no one would've cared for her just like yi xuanThat is factual
>>550331027Should have stuck with the original nun design. There's nothing wrong with generic if it's good enough. They overcooked with lucia and hari
cute!
>Miyabi didn’t need exaggerated sex appeal to become popular >Yuzuha’s base outfit didn’t either>yet devs keep spamming the same big tits and assThey need more diversity ngl, a Miyabi once a blue won’t hurt anyone and it unironically works
shifu is funny in a way that leaves you guessing whether its intentional or notmiyabi's autism training shtick got boring after the second time
>>550330436Because he's meathead. Lighter is him but upgraded.
>>550330849No she doesn't, her kit is pure vfxslop with very little care put into her animations compared to other characters
>>550330902well yeah a character is more than their outfit and big boobs
>>550331131Copechina isn't an automatic hate to the majority. zzz already has cool chinks like the cops. If you cannot tell why the majority of the 2.0 chinks catch so much hate then I don't know what to say man.
>>550331115Why use sloppa when there are so many good fanarts out there?
No one knows what the fuck they wanted to do with Lucia. Shes supposed to be a backwater tribal weirdo but nothing in her design reads like that.
>>550331360Are you dumb? Yuzuha's banner period sold well BECAUSE she and Alice had swimsuit alts.
>dialyn will get powercrept in months like fufukek, the absolute state
>>550331550I think you misunderstand. You're supposed to forget she exists. Even in gameplay. Shes that thing you do every once and awhile to make your Rupture DPS do more damage. Her terrible design means nothing when she blends into the background of a buff rotation and is literally never acknowledged anywhere else.
You anons remember this letter?
As someone who was hyped for Zhao since the 2.0 trailer I hope she is not free because she sucks. I'd take a free 1.X S Rank engine over her now. Flameshaker pls
>>550326456>wormter that highYOU HAVE AIDS
>>550331415>china isn't an automatic hate to the majority.https://poal.me/8lmk0zhttps://poal.me/8lmk0zhttps://poal.me/8lmk0z
>>550329747Choose neither and go to a third path (hags)
yeah i'm racist against the chinese but I still love their food more than any others and fufu is my favorite
>>550331370>training shtickIts not a shtick she has autism and finds it hard to grasp simple concepts of human interaction or hyperfocus and starts overthinking things like in the fishing event.
>>550331868We know, SEAbro.
>>550330271>so is Miyabi
>>550331775>If you prefer this over another then you must hate the other!your moving goalpost couldn't be less obvious
>>550331946relax jackie chan this is the american english website we aren't all third worlders like you
>>550331974When did I say you hate chink wank faggot?
You can skip anyone other than VHs in this game due to how quick powercreep is happening, don't worry bros
I miss her.
>>550331754The Champ STUNNED you
>>550332086That's why I pull for mindscapes.
that DA is weird I'm stuck at 2 stars for the wantering hunter with a fucking shifu/fufu/dialyin team.Are all future rupture DA gonna be impossible without Lucia?
>>550331868Nah. Jap food>korean food>chinese foodBut I still like all three
why would i need ye shunguang loli don't need anybody by this point i roll for fun
>>550332095they literally said that she has school to go back tooand so does alice, who also has to deal with a lot more then anyone now the owner of two companies one small and one too important
>>550330271Shifu's only saving grace is that she's smoking hot. But when it comes to personality, it's more interesting to watch paint dry.Miyabi is a dork who's obsessed with melons and training.
>>550332153The only good Japanese food is sushi and miso, though.
Reminder that Nicole scammed/stole Tailless ones.And felt so bad for Miyabi that she gave it back.
>>550332061literally the post I replied to. Are you fucking retarded? >b-but it's just a green textSemantics
>>550332153I know arguably Japanese food is better and I love Japanese Curry/Ramen ALOT, but it's super close between chinese and jap food.Chinese wins out becasue I grew up on L.A. Chinese food straight from immigrants off the boat and I can't live without it now
>>550332095I still can't believe they released this low effort slop event where the characters just stand motionlessly.
SEAnig(ladyboy) herechink food > gook food > jap foodjap food barely have any flavor
>>550329918I know, that's not what I meant
>>550332160>level 60 m6 wormanoyou have HIV
>>550330271>so low Not really
Is it too much to ask for 3.0 to be a bit more chill? Like the big bad can still be plotting but can we fight bosses other than ethereals? Maybe we can fight an evil bangboo. Seems fun, right? His name will be Badboo, not to be confused with Baddieboo.
>>550332504cry louder bitch
>>550332197school area and teacher faction when?
frog thiren when
>>550332924What's with the Japanese obsession over school settings, anyway?
>>550332953best i can do is a girl with animal ears and a tail
>>550332953That's just a regular person, bwo
Do people serious think devs would allow a VH engine to only be 12% better than a F2P standard option
>>550333147is this a better photo?
>>550333321Didn't they make Astra's signature engine almost equivalent to Kaboom?
>>550333321We can only hope
>>550332142I got an easy 3* on Wandering Hunter with Manato/Lighter/Orphie.
>>550330902>no hype
>>550333372Chinkstra is not a VH.
>>550333556i stood and clapped when this happened, shifu is so perfect bros
>>550333583She's not a VH but she was a heavily shilled character that they're clearly trying to make a big deal.
>>550333556someone please sneak edit her smirk by moving it up 1px every time this pic is posted until anons spot it.
>>550333712And then she flopped outside the game lmoa
>>550326456she can't stop winning
>>550329856nigga shes the oldest senior at the templeshe was an adult before the fall of old eridudo some fucking math, read a book
>>550333556
>>550333098what's with the British obsession with boarding school settingswhat's with the American obsession with high school settings?
>>550330806i would nutt. girl
>>550333803>picrelis that the only yuri artist zzz has?
Is Dialyn worth the m2?
>>550333491my manato only has the puzzle weapon and I don't have Lighter. best I could do was 17K
>>550333841I don't actually see high school stuff done much in the US unless the media is explicitly aimed at teenagers.Actually, I guess that means school anime is geared predominantly toward teenagers.
>>550333902>gets mad at a meme imageThere's a reason you're called wisewimps huh lol
>>550333987how did my post even imply me being mad, i was just asking a question
>>5503329533.0 is supposed to be "european", you will get your frog chef fencer "chasseur de vide"
>>550333967My only point was that Lucia definitely isn't mandatory.
>>550334046>he madYup
>>550334082how do you know what season 3 is supposed to be like
>>550333841nah american tv is obsessed with crime drama not high school shit
>>550334082It's Chasseur du Néant
The council of bunny girls
>>550333340kek yeah. I can see frog thirens working
I am pro mexican fufu posters btw
>>550329747Corn instead of Yutane
>>550326241So whats it like being a giga subhuman?
>>550334082schizo poster just making shit up again, please don't shitpost to hard when it isn't what you expected
What the FUCK is a labubu
>>550334574
Why do people post their>14k>20kDogshit scores?Aren't you niggers EMBARASSED?Do you have a public humiliation fetish or someshit
>>550326456Agree
>>550334698Numbers don't matter unless you account for the context of both the current shill buffs and the team composition.14k could be really good if you're running Lucy DPS.
>justifying being a subhumangrim
is this good enough to join the zzz guild?
>>550334979Post your martial practice scores
>>550334698yes
>>550332953They look just like us...
>>550335034What if I got 90-95k across the board?
>>550335206Then you need to post your hard threshold performance
Sneaking up behind Trigger and squishing her soft red bean bun filled tummy
>>550334979only if you have AT LEAST m3 nekomata and her ball
>>550334698got me 6 starsgood 'nuff
How would Yixuan react if you asked her to unzip her shorts so you could smell her panties
>>550329747
>>550335683Restraining order
>>550330812It's a running theme for all wuxslop
Atleast we aren't Genshin Impact
>>550331731Hoyo is contractually obligated by the CN government to make the second area of their games Chinatown, please understand
>>550336090UHHHOHHHHH MOMMY MILKIES!!!!!!!T0T!!
>>550336090
>>550336170Why can't they ever make it a cool, campy Chinatown, though?
>>550336090YX mogs too bad her costume stink
>>550336282Waifei is Chinatown. How much more Chinatown do you want?
>>550335683
>Yenless Yen Zero
>>550336090Yi Xuan is still medium at best. I need me some REAL fat milkies. Like double that and we'll talk.
>>550336282anything less than pure wank is considered offending the feefees of 1.4 billion chinese.they can't be self aware, it gets in the way of ego grandstanding
When will we get a blonde, stick and sickly beauty? Love those types of girls.
>>550337473Your Piper?
>>550337631Needs to be paler and less energetic.
I want to do IRL bangboo gacha.https://x.com/ms_dainichi/status/2000801683291742601
>>550330150It was supposed to be Zhao but they wanted to hurt us more
>Ning Qian casually lifting 400 kilos with one legYixuan doesn't teach me shit, I want Banyue to be my Shifu from now on.
>>550338316you know cultivation and chinese stuff shows them training themselves physically so much but they always depict themselves as malnourished twigboys stillits weird
>>550338316No we send Eous to him
>>550338867Eous is still an artificial construct, phaeton would rather have him just equipped with weapons (like he does now) and have the ability to fight via plugin
>randomly looking for stuff on Steam>came across this>came out in 2016Waterkuma is a HACK!
MUH-NAHNAH
>>550339180No!
>>550339180what did sunbringer mean by making them sound like tards then making everyone download an auto translator to understand them, or making bangboo language classes mandatory
>>550339058Nah, she's a new character from a 2016 game. As a gacha player you should know how these things worked.
>>550339274These are matters between Void Hunters, you wouldn't get it.
>>550339384Fufu trying to attract mates to breed her... cute!
>>550338316Send me 2-3 years Banyue dojo and forget
>>550338316Wise and Belle can do this too...
https://arca.live/b/zenlesszonezero/156790748Would love to be Chinatsu and livestream myself poledancing in a bunnysuit
>>550339998>>550340516sex idol
wife wife wife wife wife wife
>>550339058that's literally petra
>>550340576Agreed, wish I could have her body and find the most degenerate possible ways to max out my heart rate as stamina practice for concerts
>>550333902Qiandaiyiyu is another woman that does ZZZ yuri as well
>>550334698I did 5k with my EveQingyiLucy team.
WHY EVERY SHIYU GOTTA INCLUDE PULCHRA BELLUM AND MORSIM TIRED
>>550337187How big are we talking?
>>550332607I assume the Idols episodes will mostly have thugs and security personnel as enemies like 1.5, the big bad will most likely be some exec from one of the two big music companies in Eridu
>>550340516Holy massive thighs
>>550337187Bait
>>550341242perfect to bump into repeatedly
>>550341153That's a lot better and within the bounds of "Plausible to be added". Can always go bigger but I'd be happy with that.
>>550334698You act as if you couldn't easily edit the thing. At least with those "dogshit scores" you know they are real and not fake.
I can't believe it. They'll finally be here next month. It's been such a journey. Hopefully one of them is A rank so I can 2/6 and wengine the other two.
>>550334698I get 8/9 stars on purpose because I fucking hate DA and its shilling so I never get the badge. Fuck the scores and fuck DA.
>>550341242Now can you see part of why I want to be Chinatsu and get fucked
>preorder now, receive for eosfvarrk
19 hours until I win the Banyue coinflip!
>>550341841Cute
>>550341323Every time I see Chinatsu I want to be her and do unspeakably lewd things in her body
what a qt3.14
Yixuanshorts are a good thing, actually.
>>550341829I'd rather be the one splitting in half but everyone's got their own fantasy
>>550343017Oh I definitely get that too, but something about her in particular makes me want to be her and personally be the one who gets sexually brutalized
>>550342980>Miyabi>Has assbigger offmodel than live Lucia Pants themselves don't look too bad desu but mostly because they have the same texture as her skirt which makes them somewhat unique.
Post MORE Chinatsu stuff please.
>>550343173Meebs is NOT a flattie
>>550343448https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137878666Absolutely, but it comes at the cost of hearing how I want to be Chinatsu and get choked and forced to deepthroat big cock
>>550343523This was meant to be a response to >>550343398Also source is second image in the set if you care
>>550343646You want to be THIS little fat assed thing and have my fat cock deep down your throat?
>>550339058>generic anime girl with a hoodiemeds
>>550344010Specifically while also being choked, I want to be Chinatsu and be incapable of breathing anything but cock for several minutes at a time
>>550343080what the fuck?
ZZZero hype for homotroon character
>>550344346EU UID?
>>550343448Her ass 100% is, worst tit to ass ratio in the game>>550343523
>FUCK micromanaging anomaly bars>FUCK playing slowkaku and her dash cancel autism>FUCK ani cancel autism with hold BA>FUCK coping with off-field lycaon>FUCK needing to read a 400 page google doc just to play one team in the game>FUCK popping Astra ult in stun window for decible manipulation bullshit>FUCK constantly quickswapping to Nicole because her debuff lasts shorter than my grandpa's erectionDialyn EEE.Zhao E.Chain x2.Ult x2Hold BA.65k easy every rotation.Shunko won.
>>550344489What'd I miss
What do ppl run for anomaly if no agent has been up since I've been playing? Solo Piper can't do much, right?
>>550344627https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133487482Yeah, I'd love being Chinatsu and going back and forth between practice and gangbangs with no breaks allowed, really get my heart pumping for all the right reasons
>>550345010I used to go Lucy/Piper/Grace early on
>>550344646>>FUCK micromanaging anomaly barsisnt this like the easiest thing ever these days?
>>550345023That's funny, I want to force Chinatsu's head down my cock and creampie her face so hard it that it comes out of her nose.
>>550345359https://x.com/ramube___/status/1996877550526910969Yes please
>banyue M0W1 can 65k the hunteruh I thought he was weak bros? He does his job perfectly fine.
>>550345519Id hope he beats Manato by quite a bit.
>>550344674Futa ba
>>550345519Now do it without the other two signature engines
>>550345649Idk about manato, can he 65k with the same investment as banyue?>>550345734Is there anyone not-VH in this game that can 65k their shilled boss without supports' wengines?
>>550345470Chinatsu (You) getting her nails painted green, hair done, all dolled up and ready to perform. Before she goes onstage, I pull her aside into a room for a final touch up. Pushing her into a corner, I grab her fat ass and rape her while her hands and face are on the wall. After I nut deep in her, I pull up her panties and lift her tiny destroyed body to the rest of the group. The curtains are about to go up in 3..2..1..
Idolfags are not beating the tranny allegations
>>550345519Pretty sure that was a 6cost team and perfect shill buff but go on
>>550325721To be the pinnacle there's a price, a model of virtue above the vice
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137457178Anyways, wish I could be Chinatsu, dress up in a nurse outfit, and use the stethoscope that came with it to try and time bouncing on a cock to the beating of my heart no matter how fast it got
>>550343448Her ass is
>>550345863>Is there anyone not-VHLove how we just casually make an exception for banners that work the same way any other limited banner does>>550346157Why isn't Trigger helping?
>>550346251I must repeat myself, yes pleaseWould love being Chinatsu and performing while hiding the fact that I'm full of cum
>>550346452Best ass in ZZZ IMOJust wish her chest and thighs were smaller
I love my bnuuy wife
>>550346380>6cost teamI thought this was the norm, are there 4 cost or 5 cost clears of shilled bosses for non-VH agents? I don't follow bilibili.>>550346482The player doesn't make an exception though, the devs do with the differences in resources invested.
>>550346452Stop the inflation
>>550346518You seem cool. EU server?
>>550346684I want more deflation if anything, give me a twig of a woman with some occult bullshit going on who's both cute and sexy with bags under her eyes
I love Hoshimi Miyabi
>>550345863Miyabi killed freezable bosses every patch at 2~3 cost, sometimes 1 cost.And before you ask, yes, those have a much higher level of skill display than what you see in the Banyue video. And no, nobody in these threads are skilled enough to replicate it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKhqsLKPWMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaCvDe2Sl-M
hochimin mintbaby
>>550346663Think Yidhari has some, wouldn't be surprised if Eve and Alice achieved it back in their day.>The player doesn't make an exceptionFor him the cost is the same but the choices aren't made equal, I hope our next VH is pure male or even shota and powercreeps just as hard so people can start realising
>>550346957there was a couple of guys doing that monoice getting 65kthe point is, after scoring the 65k it's not fun anymore todo a near perfecte xecution after 100 retarts because you dealt 1 anomaly too much
>>550346957Is miyabi unironically the hardest agent in the game? This freeze shit looks impossible to manage all the while everything on the screen is happening.
>>550327617Burnice is so fucking cute. Where's the goddamn rerun?
>>550347580She had a rerun. Others are further in line for a rerun
>>550347627I don't care about others.
gg collab doko
>Saving DA run for YSGAnyone else
Oh mighty Creator, please refine me!
>>550348123This DA resets before her banner.Banyue’s banner didn’t even start and I already have Banyue fatigue.
>>550327617burnice when the childhood traumas resurface
>>550348123I think it runs out before the patch bwo
>Have about 90 pulls ready>Want to get Banyue cause he looks cool and plays so differently>Still can't get to grips with him>DMG numbers ain't looking great from testers>Already have M6W2 Manato>Super short banner>YenShua coming right after and very likely will need her sig to be strongNot really a meta chaser but I do like to have characters I like and still do decent. The fuck were they thinking with these banner cycles as of late? I reckon I would be able to get Yen if I don't win the 50/50 but Banyue is the bigger gamble and if I lose then thats that.
>>550348331Bullshit. Are you for real?
What do we think about Banyue's character demo?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUymJ5QYCAk
>>550348453cool, but feels wasted on a character sent to die with a nerfed kit
>>550347074I'm glad my stupid shitpost infected someone
>>550337157Good morning!!!! Are u skipping banyue!!!
im out of the loop, what is ye shungers best team comp?
Sarah is going to be Ice resistant, isn't she?
Chances Banyue gets buffed last minute?
>>550348791Banyue buffs on last day. Trvst.
>>550349116ZeroHe can 6 cost 65k on his super shill rotation, what more do you want gweilo? Stop being greedy.
>>550349116>>550349193Zero. Preload already got patched today and he didn’t change.
>>550349014Ice and ether actually
>>550347979>str*veno
>>550338316A-rank Ning Qian when?
>>550349347
>>5503484533D animation was cool but they could have used a more intimidating ethereal
>>550342853
Fire of lake, lake of fireDancing flames growing higher and higherEchoes of legends, whispers of loreAt the heart of the wild, we're craving for moreBadlands, sweetlandsIt's in the grip of fortune's fickle handsYearning for the thrills, hearts afire, spirits unchainedIt's in the tales of sorrow, etched in the sandThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeDive, dive, diveFire of lake, lake of fireDancing flames growing higher and higherBadlands, sweetlandsIt's in the grip of fortune's fickle handsYearning for the thrillsIt's in the tales of sorrow, etched in the sandThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeBreaking through the storm, facing the strifeDeep inside the land where wild winds cryRace against the hardest fate on the sun-baked trailSun-baked trail, that sun-baked trailThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeThrough the dust, through the nightAin't nobody could ride like Johnny the KnifeDive, dive, dive
>>550347979Only collab we can expect is Persona 5.
>>550349623meanwhile at mibibib's teaser
You find the famous HSO6 member and youngest Void Hunter Miss Hoshimi Miyabi after she passed out on the floor from melon deficiency, what do you do?
Umm Miyabikeks? What's the benefit of your girl having a flat ass?
>>550349623I've seen an anon saying it was accurate to his gameplay kek... Yeah it should have been a bit more than three little guys
>>550350073Give melon.
>>550349623Grace, stop harrassing the elderly....
>>550349676
>>550350073spread her legs and shove my head under her skirt, sniffing deeply and licking around, just to make sure she's alright ofc
>>550350073Take her to my house and make her eat all the eggs.
Okay this amount of pandering is a bit excessive even for me
>>550333902maiqo (even though maiqo and that guy have near identical artstyles)
>>550350549its JUST about boba tea dude... its not a fuckin coffee at her place.
Neko's E not snapping you to the target always throws me off.
>>550350549can we tone down the panderslop a little and go back to interesting stuff again?
>>550350760I'm talking about her randomly daydreaming about (You) when she's not even aware of your presence.
>>550348370something's off
>eats too much food>doesn't get fatHow does she do that?
Big sis sheeza!
>>550351075Onis are just built different.
Everything wrong with ZZZ right now can be summarized with this image. We went from left at launch to right 1 year later.
>>550340978>>550350686pag artists
>>550351172That's simply the average hebe vs the average hag. It was the same in season 1 and why i ended up with close to 1k polys going into season 2.
Eleanor should talk to Coco sometime
If sex with men gives aidswhat do you get having sex with robomen
>>550351172>ice >dpsLOL
>>550351075She only stops when she is told
>zone out, become zenless if you will, and don't pause to restart current DA attempt in time>not allowed to just restart from the score screen>accidentally hit reset all stages instead
>>550351898They should let you save your highest scoring DA clears you've done so you can reset it to the higher score after trying out different builds.
>>550351172>both themed after sea creatures>both have stickers on their animal partsWHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!?
>>550350686Unrelated but it's crazy how many 1:1 copycats maiqo has, even down to the fucking nickname sometimes. I've found at least three. I suppose his art is just that good
>3 Meebs EBA and 1 ult per stun>Two freezes during stun >Feel pretty good about myself>look at the scoreAIEEE WHAT THE FUCK WHY AM I A SUBHUMAN NOWI KNOW I'M NOT R2 TIER OF MEEBS PLAYER BUT WHAT THE FUCK BROWHAT DID THEY DO TO THIS BOSS
>>550352060That'd be neat, but at least it does save your high scores if you get to 9 stars the first time, in Outpost Archives. I was just trying to improve my Thrall.Now I can improve the other two as well.
>>550351075she gets lots of exercise, especially at night naked in my bed
I recently got the telephone girl yesterday. Any best builds and teams for her?
>>550352219Forgot to add>M0W1/M0W0/M6W0how tf does R2 get 46k on this shit.Does he fucking retry for eternity?
>>550351716shut up fuck up scumbag bitch you are fucking useless in 2025 modern meta my fucking shifu gets me 50k first try on her shill boss while you can't even get 30k on your own shill boss after 30mins of retrying
>>550350941No
>>550352419>Does he fucking retry for eternity?Not sure who you're referring to, but a lot of it comes down to optimization, yeah. Even with a stronger Miyabi, you end up having to sort of know when is a good time to let him chant or when to keep pushing, as well as knowing exactly where to spend your resources as well as maintaining enough uptime to make sure they come out at a fast rate.It's quite fun, but I feel I should be performing better no matter my score because of M6Even still, getting to 65k is borderline impossible because you can only get 60k points from damage alone, and in order to get the final 1k you need to somehow give him time to start a third chant and then stop it right before the time expires.
>>550352294er mainstatand 2 piece er bonus4 piece on that stun settry to get to as close to 100cr as you can.these factors take huge priority over anything else at their expense.
>>550352531>seething
>>550352726The biggest miyabi simp in the worldHer strongest M0 warrior aka R2All he does all day is live in his parents basement and play meebshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8A6rjIXNtw>spoilerjesus m6 only gets you 55k and im suppose you tried to play somewhat half decent instead of monkey mashing as wellwhat the fuck
should I roll Dialyn wengine?? HELP
goodbye /zzz/ i'm sorry
>>550327904What happened back then btw?
Reminder that you only need 20k
>>550342853>>550344646>>550345931>>550348370>>550349662Fuck she's so cute...
>>550352830Okay biatch answer me this>On the left we have Shifu on her non-shill boss with no element or buff advantage>40k+ first try first run no resets yolo ez>on the right we have>THE ULTIMATE WEAPON SHITYABI>THE STRONGEST AGENT>ON HER SHILL BOSS WITH SHILL ELEMENT>AS LONG AS THE BOSS CAN BE FROZEN SHE IS UNSTOPPABLE>*play like a fucking tryhard for 30mins*>*not even 30k*explain this then
>>550353031and you sound like a LOSER
>>550328204Vivian's skin*
thinkign bout rabbits again
>>550352892Ah, I see. I don't watch a lot of content creators, but that is pretty impressive. I would like a function to turn off mindscapes because I'll be the first to admit that I have been(and still am) carried by them.I do try to play as well as I can, yeah. I have an abundance of resources and strong attacks but it comes down to knowing when they'll come in and using them appropriately.>>550353031Correct.
>>550353113Miyabi is better than Shifu.Here is proof.
>>550353241Don't put yourself down.You would be good at miyabi too if all you did was play her 12 hours a day everyday since 1.4.I lowkey hate that this nigga exists because every disingenuous faggot will use him as an example how busted op miyabi is when no one in the fucking world plays at his full autismo level.The average m0 meebs is getting 20k - 23k on bringer this rotation.
>>550329464>2.0 should have been all TOPs and no Yunkui*
>>550353320Holy trvke
>>550353320>Afk for 2 out of 3 minutes of the fight>L-Look at how bad shifu isSo how does it feel to be a lying nig on the internet
>>550329916All of them are adults, I made sure of itBesides, Yutane is another fucking robot she's probably 100+ like all the other ones
>>550352280sex imp
I regret not getting Fufu's M1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMt1k71Di8
>>550329998Dialyn ofcourse, Astra been in the meta for too long she's going to the chopping block with 3.0 VH Support
I regret not getting Fufu
>>550353320explain picrel then
Why are japs so soulful?
You will pull for SS Anby.You will pull for her wengine.You will pull for at least 2 mindscapes.You will You willYou want to
>>550353660>open video>see this>close video
Will ZZZ ever get an agent that looks like picrel?
>>550353789I will do the first two but I don't feel like spending so no mindscapes
>>550330271Shifu is not a safe design, just a boring lazy one with porn-addict bodyshape with VH-tier stapled onto her without it being relevant to the storyMiyabi is safe because it's a trope but it's done with care and her being a VH has significance to the storyI dislike both and at the end of the day meta is the main reason they be winning popularity but it's easy to see why one would be more widely loved
>>550353789I already have her W1M1 though?
>>550352895Just cope with this.
The ability to freeze the stun gauge and extend the stun windows means nothing because >Freeze only lasts a few seconds>Slowkaku takes nearly half of that time to set up freeze even with ani cancels>While all this is happening, the DA clock is still running Don't @ me you know I'm right, all you Miyabischizos.
>>550330812We gained ass but at what cost
>>550353439Oh, I don't feel too bad about it. I have been playing her a lot since then and do put a fair amount of hours into the game, but I've never been trying to be all that ''good'' at the game besides just playing it to have fun.I passed the autism screening without being diagnosed with it, but I am also the type to make images like these and then get up early in the weekends to time taking my ADHD medication and trying the new DA, so take that as you will.As for her fall off, that was always inevitable. I got the M6 during 1.4 because I had some lucky rolls, and I really like her. I have fun still pitting her against all of the anti-shill elements and trying to no-hit the entire battle tower.
>>550354050Her mindscape 2 gives 15% passive crit. Very tempting.
>>550354098Ellen is the canon gf of Wise.
>>550353789how many burgers i get for doing that
>>550331027Pants shape change is also atrocious, it looks good in the menu but in overworld the pants take a shape that makes it look the obese kind of big
>>550354127>fall offFINALLY someone fucking said it, and someone who owns M6 Miyabi even.I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.Everyone on the internet including this place screams about how T0 Miyabi. Not even T0 but T0++ GODLIKE THE FINAL ANSWER TO META THE BEGINNING AND THE END. And if you try to go against the groupthink you fucking get shit on for implying Miyabi is bad.Meanwhile her performance in the real world = ??? these days
I’m not gay but I want to BE Banyue.
>>550331267I don't like the nun, was gonna skip, but know plenty who were waiting and it's exactly what they should've gotten.Perfect "not for me but those mfs gonna be eating we" design
>>550353775>fukufuku>aogaku
>>550330271Isn’t she like the third most popular character in ZZZ according to recent polls
>>550353320>having fucking Astra, Shifu AND DIALIN is only worth 20K points against thrallhow the fuck did they balance this fight.
i like chinawank because of sexo qipao mods.
>>550354197Venus*
>>550331027Yeah lucia and yidhari kinda sucked design wise.
>>550353789Her mindscapes don't sound that great. Honestly in general I don't think I've ever read any DPS mindscapes in this game that blew me away or anything, they're all just kind of fine.
>>550334082Incredibly cheesy euro stereotypes would make for a really fun season
>>550354578This man gets it
>>550354574Anon... he afked the fight to troll.
>>550354578We need sexy qipaos for all chinawank characters.
>>550352892No, R2 only recently played Mono Ice. He's a Harumasa player first are foremost.Shadow is the Miyabi autist.
>>550354363Well, it's just how gacha goes, is it not? A super unit releases and runs roughshod over the meta, to the point that the game needs to try and outright stop them on a mechanical level - while the course changes to favor a new super unit.My Shifu is M0W1. The only characters without a ball in this are Fufu and Astra.There was a time where she certainly was, and if you are vertically invested in her like I am (or just M2, that's the biggest one), then you can still use and have fun with her. This isn't any different than other hoyo games.I'd say take people's opinions with a grain of salt, especially on here. A lot of people are either deliberately trying to get a rise out of you, or do so because they don't actually care to think that hard about what they're arguing. It's just a silly gambling game after all.I'm kind of curious what they'll do to try and stop Rupture. I think it's going to be a lot harder and might unfortunately lead us to a point of even worse powercreep than Dialyn.
>>550354802My point stands that this character is dogshit for the average to above average player
>>550326456Vivian Strong
>>550326456they need to stop counting Anby's votes separately, she should be Number 6 before YX
>>550326456
>>550354859The problem with Shifu is that rupture is meant to bypass DEF, so they were designed to have lower % modifiers as a baselineBut Shifu modifiers and the amount of buffs she can stack is her premium team already stupid high so even if she bumps into a 0 DEF boss she'll perform well...Unless they crank the HP values so high even she gets locked out, but if they do that everyone else dies with her so.
>>550355074Those crazy Russians
>>550354739for everyone you mean
The weak should fear the strongMiyabi and her fraud ass could never compete, we all saw how her cheeks got clapped in that cinematic.
Komano love!
>>550355210serious Billy no diffs both anyway
>>550354895Your point is irrelevant when the vast majority of players also think Miyabi is piss easy to use (they're wrong), but they can't even read the anomaly bar to save themselves.If we're going to make a tier list exclusively for braindead casuals Ceasar would be the best character in the game, but everybody is saying she's shit.
>>550354859Hey I won (with no mindscapes even)Am I allowed to bully you now
>>550355228hello Komano poster, how was your Monday? I was busy with work all day
>>550355132>but if they do that everyone else dies with her so.Ah but my friend, have you considered M2W1 of whatever unit 3.0 launches with? Or perhaps we could interest you in a support that gives YSG 400% crit damage and 2000 attack?>>550355323Yes, you are. What's your tower prog like?I feel I have to just accept that Jane will hit me at this rate so that I can keep grinding.
>>550353789I already have S-anby and her W-engine for months because I possess a soul.Only subhumans only roll for meta or what prydwen tells them to.
>>550355132If they make weakness and resistance bigger, it's not issue.I play a game where hitting resistance is -75% damage, and enemies may even downright null or absorb a damage type.Also hitting weakness is +150% damage at the very least, but can go up to 350% based on weakness exclusive buffs.Regardless, weakness hits for at least 10 times of a resistance hit. Let's ignore how the best DPS just forces her element's weakness which works as long as the enemy doesn't null/absorb it.
Why does every attacker Wengine now have Def Ignore on it. Really makes it hard to differentiate attacker and rupture characters
Banyue will get Sanbyed and have a buff after you guys meme him into a mediocre fighter.
>komano is insanely popular>komano void hunter>fan favorite character>reasonable people >komano is insanely popular>komano void hunter>fan favorite character>he's significantly more hyped>reasonable people >komano is insanely popular>komano void hunter>fan favorite character>reasonable people >komano is insanely popular>komano void hunter>fan favorite character>he's significantly more hyped>reasonable people
>>550355302Even after tryharding I can't even get 30k on her shill boss.Stop this agenda bullshit where you go>oh if you know how to play freeze she becomes godlike T0 Because that is objectively not true. Yixuan is much stronger and consistent overall.
>>550355658Banyue is the new sanby literal garbo on release and who knows if they will be buff or forget he ever existed.
>>550355132>But everyone dies with her.Not at all. They could increase the base HP of a boss to 150% but lower base Def by 70%, this would be a net increase to anomaly and Atk DPS clear time (as long as they don't run 100% PEN).But it will be a major nerf to all rupture DPS. If your Shifu could Shifu could 40k before, she'll drop to 27k.
>>550354264you get all the burgers fries and cola you want with anbiburgers everydaymine favorite is with egg and bacon
>>550354578Now if only all our Chinawank characters were designed like this and not miHoyo safe horny
>>550355527>Tower progNah I don't play that shit. I just stopped where the poly rewards ended and called it a day.
Nice easy captcha is back, im never buying the juden passI wish they would use the cool areas they made more, like the enitre beach resort is gorgeous with so many small details and we don't fight there or do anything after the summer events.
>>550355149are there non crazy russians?
>>550355771>If your Shifu could Shifu could 40k before, she'll drop to 27k>Gut Shifu>She drops from 50k to 27k (everyone other rupture dps and some other weaker attacker dps dies even harder)>27k is still insane for how shiteasy and consistent she is to playMeanwhile Meebs>Gutted by devs>The average player can't even 20k with her on bringer these days>regular sweats range from 25k to 33kStill better than miyabi in this scenario you propose
>>550355676How much drugs and mental illness is needed to say any of these things and believe it
>>550355372It was pretty good, had my final doctor's appointment for the year. Everything's in good order and ready to take on 2026. Hopefully work is slowing down for you as we approach the holiday week.>>550355676Many are saying this.
>>550355821That is the wiser choice.I realized too late just how many floors the tower actually has and sort of ''wasted'' my opportunity to coast to the top. There just wasn't a lot of time left and it was mind numbing resetting over and over trying to no-hit all of it. Jane wasn't even the worst for it, it's the corrupted construction robots and most things with a gun.
>>550355064In single-choice ones absolutely
Burnice buffs look really bad everyone is doompostinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/Zenlesszonezeroleaks_/comments/1pn88ov/retest_254_m0w1_burnicem0w0_yanagim0w0_yuzuha_vs/
>>550355658Honestly it still goes to Seed. Sanby is basically the same kind of character, she was always meant to be played in a dual attack team. The big difference is that Sanby is not limited to attack agents, they could release a rupture version of Orphie and they would pair well together. So not only is Sanby a dual attack agent, she is also a attack x rupture agent.And with all these advantages they actually made her stronger while Seed is plagued with a insane amount of limitations. If they release new Orphie then Sanby will simply steal them away. That leaves them with releasing... another Seed to be paired with Seed. That's the design space they locked themselves into with this character.In comparison, Banyue is a ok character surrounded by broken ones. They only have to buff up his multipliers and he would be Yidhari tier, no other changes are needed.
>>550355228I'm still using him, though I wish I had W5 but I haven't rolled on any engine banners as I've been saving for Idols. Been using Yixuans cage as a cope
>>550356105I just hope it doesn't make her more awkward to play like Ellen and SAnby's buffs
will I need Dialyn for Ye?
>>550352895NyoYou can easily cope with koleda w engine
>>550356217but those buffs made them great to play
>>550355658I know it's unlikely right now but considering how much better our devs have been about trying to balance things I wouldn't doubt it. We're about to get standard banners buffed, anything is possible.Invest in Banyue coin if you have a SOVL
>>550355576This would never work because Stunners and Anomaly rarely ever match the main element.If you hard-raise resistances you'll get Fufu/Trigger/Lighter owners using fucking Pulchra just for the element and 90% of anomaly players dying to a single Ether resistant boss.If anything resists don't belong in ZZZ, elements should be to create Agent synergy and that's it.
>>550355686I get 40k with Yuzu Ice without try harding. Other people here get 50k while try harding. Everybody else dies to bringer, including Shifu.>Shifu is much stronger and consistentShifu falls off a cliff without Lucia or her weapon, and rather than "consistent", it's just her skill ceiling being much lower. All the amazing Shifu clears you see everyday are 6 cost. One more S-Rank roll and Alice actually shits allover shifu too, mind you.Miyabi still kills with a 2~3 cost team. And the 40k Mono Ice teams you see everyday are 2 cost clears of players that are not even peak Miyabi autists.
>>550355658Or reworked S11 will outperform him.
>>550355579Because that way they'll also get weaker with Rupture Anti-shill and you'll have to pull.No Def boss = Nicole & those engines drop in value
>>550356219No, but Ye Shungguang needs Dialyn for her best team comp iirc.
the character is strong with wheelchair
>>550356007I'm a regular player and I can still 40k with Yuzu Ice.Actual sweaters can do the same with the much harder but lower cost Mono Ice.
Dialyn provides a frightening amount of power to her team even outside her free ult gimmick.
>>550356432Miyabi.Once they release another ice anomaly people will see how shit she is.
>>550352993They removed tv
>>550353789Even my absolute favourites don't go above c0w1And thats her current state
>>550356323>I get 40k with Yuzu Ice without try harding. Other people here get 50k while try harding.R2 only gets 46k and he's top 0.000000000001% of Miyabi players. So X.Post your score, post your investment. >Needs LuciaWho is the must roll god support of rupture as a whole, so why is it an issue? >Le Jane M2 + AliceIs also starting to drop off these days. >All the amazing Shifu clears you see everyday are 6 costNot true I get 40-50k on 4cost. Sig on Shifu. Just this rotation I got 40k on Hunter who isn't even shifu shill boss or her element.>40k Mono Ice teams you see everydayAgain post proof
>>550356007>and some other weaker attacker dps dies even harderNot at all, because no attacker DPS in the game right now runs a 100% PEN build.Only anomalies can do that but that would require using Rina : so practically no meta team. Lmao.
>>550356105Too bad the chinks who give feedback to the devs don't care about Calydon characters
>>550356635They were still releasing TV content during 1.2.But nice revisionism.The truth is that SoC killed this game.
>>550356149>Sanby is basically the same kind of character, she was always meant to be played in a dual attack teamWtf no, Sanby just wants aftershocks but hogs field like it's a fucking burger.She can be played with Seed and because she's such a constant field time swallower she has an easy time filling any downtime Seed has but she's not designed to be a dual attacker.>Seed is plagued with a insane amount of limitationsShe just needs a good burst/quickswap attacker, even better if it gives buffs.Biggest issue is the AA because Zhao or even Ben would go kinda nuts with her, she could've been much better for YSG but they removed the teamwide damage multiplier effect and made her use not-energy in bwc mode
>Miyabi >2 cost kill>in 2025Miyabischizos live in another reality altogether
Will Sanby be VH level after her buff next patch?
*smashes desk* WHENS IDOLS!!!!
>>550356797*hso6
>>550356257Ellen's flying dash is awkwardSanby got the extra animation at the end of her Aftershocks which understandably annoys people but I like how it raises the skill ceiling with optimal brief swaps and cancels
>>550356926Lunar new year.
>>550356894she will probably stay top 3 dps even with ye releasing
Am I the only one who thinks mindscapes don't make sense in the current environment of>pull the latest shill unit for the latest shill content or enjoy suffering?
I can't even get 30k+ with my miyabi against bringer at DA anymore. Why is hp bloat a thing...
>>550356926WHEN YOU SUCK THE POLYCHROME OUT OF MY ASS
So how long do you think the Miyabischizo is going to take to find a meebs clear to skinwalk as his own now that I called him out on his BS
>>550357072Just roll who you like bwo
I need to continue building my anomaly astral voice Harumasa.
>>550357196have yet to see a hunter clear with her above 30k when Hugo does that shit easy with 4 cost fuhihi
>>550357202Ask the m2 miyabi fags if they regret their spending choices in 2025
>>550356797SoC you mean the patches that had no content because they were busy removing tv
>>550357202now get M2 Jane for UNLIMITED POWAHR
got my clear with doodoo discs and playing like shitanotha easy weak
>>550357093Skill issue. Meebs can kill bringer with only 2 cost. Learn your rotations and manage your bars better.
My wives
>>550357072No, you are correct. Genshin is the same and unsurprisingly it’s selling a lot less now
>>550356894Only if you have Pulchra or Trigger or Orphie.Its not a buff for herself, its a buff for all aftershocks.
>>550356853>>550357459that's funny
>>550357494Lets say as a developer you logically figure out that you can funnel consumer spending in two ways.>Low powercreep game has people spending on constellations/mindscapes>High powercreep game has people spending on new unitsSo what's the minmax strategy to maximize profit?Stabilize the game powercreep for 2 regions to bait vertical investment, then wipe the slate clean with a flood of new gigapowercreep units and then restabilize it for another 2 regions?
>>550356721>R2 gets 46k, you're lying!On mono ice, ie Lycaon/Soukaku/Miyabi. Ie a 2 cost team if Miyabi is M0W1. Half yours, lmao.I am using Yuzu Ice, ie Yuzu/Soukaku/Miyabi, which is 3 cost for M0w1 miyabi.And no R2, is not even top 1% Miyabi players. Top 1% Miyabi players could kill>But Lucia is the top rolled support for rupture.Sold far less than Yuzuha, so for most players, Shifu is in fact not that strong.>But M2 Jane is overratedNo, this is M2w0 Jane + M2w0 Alice + M0w0 Yuzuha for 7 cost. And yes, it will outperform 7 cost Shifu teams.>Hunter is not even a Shifu bossWrong, hunter is far more vulnerable to rupture than he is to Ice. He is in fact a Shifu shill boss. The thrall, however is not. How much do you get on the Thrall? Also, just for context, R2 also got 40k on the thrall.>Post proofI would, but I got range banned from posting images because your anti sales used my ISP's range.The most obvious proof is the R2 video, though. It's a fucking M0w1 Miyabi with free supports, lmao.
>>550357647>a buff for her best teamyeah it's a buff for her lol
>>550357714People recognize the pattern after two rugpulls and become hoarders
>>550357752>wall of text>only to end with a weak limpdick excusedidn't even read btwHere's your (You), schizoid. Don't spend it all in one go now.
>>550356853Anon, Shadow and Yoji did in fact 2 cost kill Marionette two weeks ago, in end of year 2025...
bwos, where's threshold simulation, I can't find it??
>>550357902in the room you have sex with your sister
Hi bros, just woke up, any news?
>>550357786*Until the Rupture aftershock
>>550357364>first tower to shill Caesar>North commision>no contentThanks for confirming you didn't play the game during that time.
>>550357945Your mom had sex with Big Beatifull Bill
>>550357839Ehhh, you give the average person's memory too much credit lmao2 regions is like 2.5 years give or takethat's a long time
>>550357862But anon, the R2 video did in fact have a 2 cost Miyabi team outscoring your 4 cost shifu...Of course, you didn't read because you're factually illiterate.
>>550357945I masturbated to Yiddy today
>>550357945i think banyue trailer dropped? i didnt watch it>>550357987Imagine tripple dps s-Anby team giving everyone 50% dmg buff and crtdmg lord
>>550358021Nothing imprints itself more than a grudge
>>550357884Okay and where is the medical operation to transplant their hands to mine and others?>So and So did this>Looks closer>1000k hours on MiyabiHow is this helpful to the average metasweat who puts in maybe 30 - 40 hours learning each character at most because they're always playing the new shill character and learning them instead
>>550357945Banyues still a BRICK
>>550358110Invite me to the Yiddy party.
>>550358119You can only do two-DPS Sanby since she needs a Stunner or a Support. Unless you build your Pulchra/Trigger to do DPS.
>>550358167>story calls him out for doing no damage>video has him dumping his whole kit to kill like 3 trash mobs >gameplay has him do shit dps lore accurate
>just play like shadow bro>2 cost is all it takes to kill bro>just get gud bro>T0 at M0 bro>bro>broWhat kind of mental illness is this
>>550356926you get the idols AND then what??? there's NOTHING else to look forward to
>>550356894She will after 2.7s buff
>>550357479perfect for a menage a troi
>>550358384S-rank Billy/Big Daddy.
I NEED Billy to be the 3.0 VH
guys, you're not allowed to learn banyue you still have to optimize meebs
>>550357072They kinda need to be stronger at later levels.Never gonna pull them though
Getting back into agent/skill/engine material stockpiling after disc hell feels so nice bros
>>550357714Release skins, lock some trust events behind them.Monetize waifus/husbandos, not just the meta.
>>550357664Miyabischizoids unironically believe this
>>550358783i cant really argue since i dont own either lel
>>550357939thanks bwo, thought it was gone already
Even if Banyue is a brick I still pull because he is cool
we out here inspiring niggas
>>550358384Who cares what comes after, all I've ever wanted was the idols.
>>550358960i havent done it either waiting to get Anby in 2.5 (hope it doesnt reset in that version)
>>550359047please uninstall ASAP after pulling one of each with your f2p stash
>YSG releases>brand new T0 as expected >braindead as expected, gets 60k in their sleep on their shill boss where Miyabi has to induce a coke-fueled aneurysm to get 45k>this shithole will still tell you that miyabi is stronger>gets her 2nd premium support to replace Zhao>now she's closing in on kills and comfortably shitting out 50k on every non-shill boss as well with again, tardo play>this shithole will still insist Miyabi is stronger because some CC with sixty million hours invested into playing her did well or sumthing>Prydwen drops Miyabi to T0.5>The internet collectively melts downScreencap this.
>>550359243ok prediction man, now tell me when is demon Billy coming out?
>>550353789I have her and her w-engine already. But I don't feel like pulling for mindscapes. If anything I'd rather pull Trigger's and Orphie's M1 because I feel that is actually a better boost for SAnby than her own M1.>Trigger stuns faster and increases stun multiplier>Orphie buffs Aftershock dmg by further 20%It's also what I plan to do on their reruns because SAnby / Orphie / Trigger is my favorite team
>>550359243You will never break the will of Mibibi loyalists, we will just laugh at (You)(In specific), when you skill issue your way into failing with Fraudngus
>>550359359>malehow about neverStop being delusional.
>>550359243Miyabi will be demoted. China must not be outdone, especially now
>>550359421dont be mean now ;(
For the Shungus and Zhao enjoyers: https://youtu.be/TKjbebxhh4c
>>550353789I will use Toriga with my buffed M2 Harin istead thank you
>>550359137No. I've been playing the game since launch.
>>550353891You can immediately tell Kyvotos doesn't have many males because she hasn't been impregnated several times, Sensei's willpower is admirable
>>550359420Is that what they tell themselves when they copypaste Shadow/R2 run #900004 and try to claim it as the standard benchmark for her meta viability while only scoring 23k and whining on the internet about it?
>>550359707The crab has been mindbroken by sunkcost into willingly boiling itself
>>550359810Do you not actually play the game? Why do people who dont play the game even post here. You people need to be hung.
>>550354603I've heard good things about Jane and Alice M2
>>550359809>Never played monoice on Bringer beforeRajesh please read what you post
>>550359889i dont get it either
>>550359908Completely broken but pointless considering the wider meta of>pull latest shill or suffer
I will say it. Seed basically feels like a much smoother version of Miyabi at this point. The great DA scores also follow and she's more flexible with her partners.
I will only pull for male agents that is voiced by this guy.
>>550359567> When a good chunk of season 2 bosses are physically weak to retroactively shill the void hunterHmmm
I feel like some bosses have easier performance points than others.
>>550359243Miyabi hasn't been doing well since 2.0 dropped and they gutted freezable daze windows. Just average now
>>550360171whats the investment
>>550360001If Sanby teams can brute force their way into 20k scores on thrall this post rings hollow, ironically bringer is the most shilling boss of them all, and he's from 1.4 and NOT china
>>550360171Well, obviously. You have to kill hp inflated clones on the marionette and the thrall you just have to kill his dog and perfect assist their plunge.
>>550360001>I am Lord Alice. None surpass me. No one even comes close! Etch this into your skull... I am the emperor of the Universe!
>>550359501she already won with cuteness
>>550360271Yeah but we ain't exactly aspiring to minimum wage when discussing meta and viability now are weElse you're just going to be that fool who gets memed on here when you post a 20k clear with mindscapes
>>550360267Oh, 11 cost lol.Big part of the fun of having M6 Meebs is just fucking around like this.>>550360341It is what it is. It's not as if the performance bonus hasn't been ''trigger a disorder'' in the past.
>>550359007Based. I was already following them. Glad my instincts didn't fail me and I recognized it for the kino it was
>>550359567Ye Shunguang really seems out of place in this game
AllRightyLadiesandGentleman...ZZZBAD
>>550360348>None surpass me>For $1500 USD
>Be me>M6 Mibibi owner and agenda pusher>Casually drop a Miyabi 38k score on a boss designed to brick her and let the implication do the rest>Don't mention mindscapes at all unless promptedWhy are shityabi schizos like this
Why does ZZZ get so many female content creators?https://youtu.be/peg27S6gcuo?si=g1I1lDZXDIfQWLT0
>>550360608For my dick since i can't stop jerking it
Honestly I've come to really appreciate Komano, he makes yuritards and AGPs go on hysterical meltdowns, all you have to do is post him and not only will they stop posting their garbage softcore porn but they'll even spend hours making funny posts seething about him. People call him a "homo" character, but as a hetchad he's pretty much your brother in arms. He's cool and funny too, and not at all threatening or gross like the typical homobaits.I'll always support my Komanotomadachis. Komano is my friend!
It's a shame that all the characters are now filled to the brim with i-frame. I blame Sanbyfags for this.Going back to older characters is eye opening, it actually feels like you are fighting the boss with them, not simply executing basic rotations with no risk of ever getting hit.
>>550360608Perfect imitation. You should become a streamer too.
>>550360240have you bothered informing the miyabischizoids this yet
>>550360858Miyabi was the first perma i-grame agent.
How would you feel if the 3.x trailer reveal shows a defeated Miyabi, Yi Xuan, and Shungus while the old Void hunters stand over their unconscious bodies?
>>550360797For some reason males hate the game. Was very noticable after the tga trailer. Only females were wow'd and found the characters cute or cool. Males were like the fuck is this shit...
>>550360787Would you rather I tagged my posts with a disclaimer about my mindscapes and over a year of exclusively farming discs for her?I'm not the one arguing with you.
>>550360858>Blaming Sanby and not the fox in the roomAlso
>Another shill eventBros PLEASE spend on our latest chinaslop in 2.5 ZZZ is in incredible need of your money
>>550360858This is why I love playing nekomata unironically
>>550361054>Shit maybe making every new unit invincible was a bad idea
>>550361047honestly all clear posts should come with investment greentextelse we get shitfests
>>550361072Pretty sure this is Sjalslop but with a Zhao skin on top.
Here is your bodyguard and schedule coordinator.Questions?
>>550361072
>>550361054This is a good thing unironically
>>550361072I will do it for Zhao-sama.
>>550361072going 100% with zhao
Jesus christ, I'm tired
Why is the melty coming here.
>>550361072Going 100% All the way with Miss Zhao?!
>>550360845he's also pretty good>>550361054this is fine since i own no agent that abuses i-frames lol
>>550360404>least cute agent in gamewhat did you mean by this even fufu is cuter
Orpheus!What do you think of her?
Is it going to post CP anytime Zhao is brought up now?
>>550361479awfy love
>>550361479Magus sex
>>550361479go away orphie this isnt a safe place
>>550361512QRD on Zhao melty?
>>550361163I'll try to remember to write up a dissertation about how I don't have any sort of character related agenda as well.
>>550361606What do you m-
>>550361479FAT!!
>76mb update>game suddenly runs like butteris this a fluke or did they make some major optimizations
>>550360271Sanby teams aren't bruteforcing, Thrall is the perfect boss for her that's why the have it 40 Res
>>5503614792bad aftershock sucks and there will be only SAnby for it.So no reason to pull her
>>550361969I don't play Sanby, explain
Is Orpheus sexy or cute?
>>550361754>magus in a zip bag
>>550362035i think both
>>550361072>Bros PLEASE spen-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>550361993> aftershock sucksI assume you mean as a mechanic because the S-Anby team is one of the stronger ones
>>550360858>Blames Sanby for I-framesSanby gameplay: Dodge into cancelling the dodge so you can dodge again>Meanwhile Mibibi either I-frames or parries as long as she is in some animation
>>550362035She looks and acts too retarded to be sexy, she's also a 12 year old child in an adult body
>>550361479She should have a cool helmet
>>550361479Only threesome I might avoid
>>550362035I find her sexy but her attitude and way of acting prevents me from lewding herShe is just a child and it feels weird
I am glad my life is not miserable enough to get thsi fucking mad at pixels
Who are you vague posting at?
>>550362034She's the best continued DPS in the game, it's compensated by subpar Burst in stun but she's always dealing good damage unlike 90% of Attackers who gotta wait for that one stun combo.For Thrall this means that Sobek dies really fast and any unnecessarily lengthy phases where you can't daze take a fuckton of strong hits from her.
>>550361072isn't zhao free? why are they shilling a free character?
>>550362539>>550362539>>550362539
lmao scrolled down to pizza because of zhaoposting againfuck this nigger
>>550362558Pretty sure this is the free Zhao event, nothing to do with spending besides OPs agenda>>550362321This but YSG
>>550360808Based
>>550360171this nigga gives you the 5000 because you lose the first 15 seconds of the timer waiting for the projectile rain animation to stop, and then in the middle you lose another unskippable 10 seconds when he does that sky attack you must counter.