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Oh Christmas Tree Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-16-2025-update.93983/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>550374949
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>team getting stomped all game
>game still takes 35 minutes
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this is the thread
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So was the priest rumour just bs?
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SevenGODS are eating well right now.
This patch was amazing for people who actually learned real movement tech, but the apocalypse for W+Slide faggots.
Thankfully there were a LOT of those.
The number of people spamming crouch standing in my balls in the last few games has literally made me laugh out loud a few times.

>>550487234
It's all a rumor until proven otherwise.
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>>550487032
sex with graves
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>trying to play bebop this patch
Holy FUCK this is tourture
>but dude le hook! Competitive players say he's fine he can't do anything because he can le hook!
Made of paper, no escape tool, no damage, slow as fuck with two stam with abilities that get countered easily
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When is the patch in January??
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Can someone explain the logic behind playing in a foreign server with 80 ping, then complain every game in voice about how shit the region is?
Metro is doing that in NA right now
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>>550487559
yeah hes not an ace of all trades anymore, sorry sweaty!
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>>550487659
Isn't he in America now?
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>>550487597
>in january
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>>550487885
You are not clever
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>>550486628
based geist skin. I'm using that one because the christmas skin is fucking malware
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>get stomped
>win anyway
what on earth
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>>550487032
She looks like a hazbin character
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>>550487559
Every bebop I play against does like 600 dps with his 20 second duration ult
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>>550488720
well above alchemist people tend to not stand in the purple light
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>>550488607
a lot of the new designs are some variant of tumblr character archetype
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>>550487559
>made of paper

Stopped reading here
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>>550489234
>buy a ton of greens
>still melt in every fight because I'm a big ass hitbox with no sustain, dodge, or built in resist
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>>550489007
you’ll get the hang of positioning on bebop after a few games buddy don’t worry about it
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>>550489371
>no built in resist
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>>550489371
imagine if a mo player tried to make this argument

this is why bebop will (thankfully) still shit tier, because his retarded nigger playerbase lies about everything this character does
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>>550489640
Mo can go underground which gives him like 60% resist and can scorn to heal. You're just lying now
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>>550489640
>mo
>no sustain, dodge, or built in resist
uh what?
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>schizo still bumping his other thread pretending to be other posters
This is just sad to watch
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Where's all the christmas fan art?
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>>550490827
I don't know I only saved art from this general too
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is this a good hook or a bad hook
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>>550487559
>made of paper
You're genuinely, undeniably retarded
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>>550487032
>>550488607
>>550489027
I want to fuck Charlie in the ass and go ass to mouth and I wanna fuck Necro too.
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>>550491053
Bad, pulled the carry to the urn
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I love y'all, and I hope you're all engaging in a little Holiday spirit and doing well.
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>>550491053
MIKUGUINNESS
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>>550492372
Tony for Deadlock 2026
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THIS is what paige should've looked like.
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>>550487559
Bebop is easily the worst character in the game right now. He has nothing.
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>>550492894
Closer to this pls.
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>>550487597
man the old abrams' ult had so much more OOMF put into it
the weak us shoulder slam really doesn't do it
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>>550493054
How is Sinclair so low? That double TP change was insane
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>>550493054
He has hook. So long as he has hook he will never be completely obsolete. Bebop can do nothing all game but get a good hook late that single-handedly wins the entire thing, it's why the rest of his kit can never be very good
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>>550493054
>>550493582
hyper beam forces a knockdown buy by it's existence
and is decent at mid boss contest when you're in the stairs
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need me a thick vampire nepo baby bitch
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>>550493949
>hyper beam forces a knockdown buy by it's existence
lol
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>>550493582
One good hook does not make up for the deficit he represents for the entire rest of the game. Acting like hook is some crazy ability that is better in any single use of it than any other ability is ridiculous.
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>>550494147
it's paradox ult on a 10 second cooldown
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>>550494147
Name 2 ability better than hook
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>>550494147
it literally is
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>>550494320
sanguine retreat
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>>550494320
Ground strike and flog
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How is deadlocc patch? Are inhouses still plagued by shitcord drama?
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>>550494083
it's an alright ult
at least it's not as pointless as mcginnis ult
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>>550494774
they are plagued by whiny ragequitters (they are all curiously discordfags)
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>>550493365
>buy nothing but purples
>chortle over how much bolt damage you have
>get silenced for 1 second
>die
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>>550494995
name and ban em
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>>550494995
Was hoping they'd lose interest and it would get comfy again.
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>>550495308
Only ones I remember off the top of my head are Saga, Bison and Raiva because they've done it multiple times recently but I'm sure there are others.
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>>550495565
>>550495308
have you banned the people who's voices have very obviously been voice training for a while?
it's very grating to have to hear some idiotic boymoder thinking they're slick
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>Change the hideout
>But don't change the in-game map to have some snow
sovlless...
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>>550495798
honestly if they don't quit or whine i don't give a shit
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>>550495798
>boymoder
The fuck is this? Do you mean a Tranny?
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>>550495823
content team is busy, please do be understand sir
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>>550495823
Map is getting pretty big changes in january, would be pointless to decorate it more honestly
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>>550496004
They should of just added a particle snow affect but knowing shooter players people would go apeshit.
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>>550495895
i hate laning against paige players though
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>>550496462
swap lane or don't place yourself on their lane
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>>550494147
>One good hook does not make up for the deficit he represents for the entire rest of the game.
unironically yes it does
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>>550496429
I'd like that, just make it togglable in the hide out or something so those retards don't have to shit their diapers
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>>550496462
"could i swap with someone please"
wow so hard
much difficult
very wow
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im ngl you niggers cry about discordfag inhouses but never host inhouses yourself
unironically kys if you’re gonna complain and not host your own lobbies
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>>550496790
i refuse to speak in the inhouses
not even in chat
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>>550496889
is it because you sound like a cute little shota boy who wants to be molested
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>>550496882
why even post that there's an inhouse if you're gonna fill it with 10/12 players BEFORE even posting it in the thread?? it's practically advertising
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>>550494003
not even remotely funny, maybe try posting your garbage on r*ddit
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>>550493304
That's what Calico will look like.
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are you doing the challenge alphabetically, or selecting everyone with equal priority and removing when you win?
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>>550497389
Nah, this is Calico.
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>>550497543
if you turned calico into the cat what would you do with ava?
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>>550497739
miniature black woman
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I just played my first game of deadlock, why would I play this over Dota?

The gunplay doesn't feel particularly good, the appeal is more like the maps and the abilities but the games appear to be like 30 minutes long, at this point why not play a moba instead?
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>>550497739
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>>550497863
It is a Moba, retardo
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>>550497863
you can walljump
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>Use majestic leap to fly above victor thinking I wouldn't get hit by his ult
>still get hit by his ult
Wow whoever coded his ult needs to be fired.
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>>550497896
>>550497815
oh no
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>>550498067
I never had a problem with it until last night when I was playing Abrams against Victor
>trigger victor ult
>push 4
>victor ult still hits me at max seismic slam height
Another reason why Abrams ult is the worst ult in the game too I guess.
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>>550497057
Why are you being mean to him.
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>>550497980
Yeah the TPS part just feels kinda empty
No reason to play Deadlock over Dota
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so uh, how do we play Geist now if you want to do a spirit build after the nerfs? seems like bombs are dead
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>>550497863
I don't want to move by pressing right click and looking top down
if i wanted to do that, why wouldn't I play diablo or poe
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>>550498282
>there really is a tranny discord for /dlg/
At least it tells me never to join one.
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>>550498425
you play gun geist and put reverb on malice
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>>550498301
now you have to aim pudge hook
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>>550498576
i refuse to play gun Geist. Doesn't feel like what the toon was meant for. I'll concede for hybrid
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>pudge hook is easier to aim than bebop hook
>pudge is allowed to have a useful kit
>bebop isn't
really makes you think. shootertards really are just big babies
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>>550494003
I chuckled
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>>550498576
>reverb on malice

I suspect this is less than optimal
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>>550498282
I could have saved him
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>>550494003
funny, don't try posting your diamond on r*ddit (they won't like it cuz bad taste)
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>>550498924
spirit geist is less than optimal
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Friendly reminder: its over.
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>>550499248
(until january)
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No reason to hope for next update when each update nerfs movement options
It'll just get worse
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>>550499167
Regardless putting +50% on a 50dmg ability feels bad even if you just care about the slow

Ive been playing reverb mirage and that shit will hit for 1k late game
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>>550499517
learn the tech instead of just holsing W cuck
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>>550494003
I will upvote this if you post minas fat ass and tits after activating colossus
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>>550499167
I can't imagine playing a hero and just ignoring its abilities or using them as light support (unless it's Haze). It's the most boring way to play possible.
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>>550497863
I play both, dota is way more miserable when playing from behind and there's a bigger risk that the game ends up being an hour long slog that you either win or want to kill yourself at the end of. Plus it's fun to jump around, and I like the presentation.
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There is no way I'm getting all the ornaments but I'll try to get at least 10
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The Christmas challenge is stupid. I only like Lash being forced to play other heroes for the ornaments is retarded.
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>>550497863
A lot of the nice things about the game that made it unique have been removed.
>map
>constant mobility nerfs
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>>550499717
okay I was trolling before but as a legitimate geist spammer, I've always played her hybrid. The percentage of gun/spirit I build has always depended on the meta, but she's never been great at full spirit imo. you just need to adjust the gun/spirit slider as yoshi makes changes and she's great in every meta because of how synergistic her kit is.
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>>550499983
they're ornaments with pngs on them, the only thing you're losing out on is having them filled out on a profile badge that might give you street cred in 3 years
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>>550499983
I q'd to get them got holiday had a miserable time despite winning and closed the game. Don't even remember if you need to win just one per ritualist but I don't think I care enough about the game for the badge. Especially with how bad north american playerbase is.
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>>550499402
>xhe thinks the patch is coming in january
jej
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>>550499650
hows this bor
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>>550500667
confirmed by yoshi himself (this time for sure)
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>>550500763
you get a (You) for effort
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who's gonna be the last hero to get a remodel now that we know yamato is coming
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does colossus make viscous ball bigger?
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>>550499591
You mean the tech that's also been nerfed you retarded cocksucker
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>>550501249
Yea iirc
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>>550501261
"oh no now i have to use my technical ability to get away instead of having it guaranteed" stop being a shitter
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>>550501751
I never said that btw
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>metro plays seven
>runs a retarded gun + green build
>gets mad that he under-performs
>calls the character shit and goes back to wraith
And people trust this dumbfuck?
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>>550502095
Doesn't matter if people trust him, what matters is if retards give him views (you are that retard)
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>>550502095
With my life, green m1 is the truth
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>>550499591
NTA but what's the point of learning that tech if there is the possibility they nerf/remove it?
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>>550502424
been seeing great success with it in archon huh
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>>550502463
>nerf
still works
>remove
they never did this, even HMC still works (it was just nerfed)
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>>550502818
I don't even know what HMC is. But movement has no place in a MOBA and I'm glad they're slowly toning it all down.
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>>550502621
Metro is proof its an e6+ strategy
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>>550503495
metro is proof that if you got E6 when the game came out abusing wraith you can stay there by getting carried

hes a fucking oracle victim on smurfs, and you need to find rope
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>>550503647
Post rank
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>>550487559
you genuinely have to be tricky as fuck with your movement, like a calico player but with less escape tools
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>>550503696
You first
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>>550503180
heavy melee cancel
what makes you think they want to tone movement down? you're gonna be in for a big surprise when the new update drops with new movement items
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>>550503696
if I posted my rank you would cope by saying its fake, and Im not posting my actual account name, stay in metros twitch chat you retarded little gremlin
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>>550503793
>>550503856
Concession accepted
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>tank main (abrams, billy, victor etc.)
>playing other heroes for the ornaments
>get Paige
>go full support
>every fight was just me pressing every button randomly
>somehow this helped my team and we won
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>>550504178
None of those heros are tanks
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>play Shiv for the first time for the challenge
>buy random shit that looks like it fits him
>win
Checks out.
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>>550504348
If it looks like it fits him then it's not random
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Is Metro /ourguy/?
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I'm really starting to dislike this event.
It was pretty clear everyone on our team was new with their heroes and the enemy was not.
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>>550504697
You're in tard bracket so that should be irrelevant regardless.
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>>550504697
are you one such person or are you under the impression getting bottom damage on mina is a good performance since you only died once
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>>550504989
GEG
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>>550504989
No did you read my post, I've never played Mina. We all did poorly.
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>>550505303
So you are bitching about matchmaking not the event
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The funniest moment I had was an Abrams saying at the match start that he was playing for the ornament, then 3 other people said "same" and then after a short pause the Abrams went "we aren't getting those ornaments are we?" then we lost bigly
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You guys are always such pricks to each other
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>>550504697
I only played one game for the little gift on the chimney and went back to play Atomic Shart waiting for the January update.
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>>550496882
>post a matchcode
>7 minutes later the discord posts there own two posts down, everyone abandons and joins that one
huh gee maybe thats why
also nondiscord trannies dont have 12 of us
we need eachother to thrive
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What the fuck is an inhouse?
I just press play and go, nigga
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>>550505796
ok, nigger
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>>550505489
this is my dumping ground for all negative thoughts so I can be a normal functioning human in game
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already fell down two ranks cause of the every hero challenge
wonder if you can get low prio with enough reports
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>>550506131
so many one tricks here, you guys need to get good obviously
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JF9JK
JF9JK
JF9JK
JF9JK
JF9JK

itll be up for 45 minutes
clean your room brush your teeth do your laundry

NO COLOREDS
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>>550506950
Jeet
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>>550506950
this is a psyop by the discord
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>read that ball seven has been back since last month
>try ball seven builds
>they feel like ass and perform like shit
who spread this lie?
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>>550506950
fuck off slopper
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Patch.
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>>550508012
Yep, the game is saved, never doubt Yoshi again
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>>550508012
Anti movement fags on suicide watch
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>>550508012
holy based
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>>550508012
just won a game for 100-0'ing the patron because they left green open, this patch was because he was spectating me
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>>550508012
Thank fuck. The patron change is good too, you can't just ignore people now.
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>>550508012
YOSHI MY GOAT I WILL GARGE ON YOUR NUTS TIL I DROWN
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>>550508012
Is this the legendary Icefraud I've been hearing so much about? Just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks?

Joking, I know it's an early alpha.
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>>550508415
>early
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>>550508012
>stamina buffs
>no more bullet hit move slow
>WALL JUMP IS BACK
>patron now isn't a worthless nigger while weakened
>roaming like a nigger with a million move/sprint speed is still nerfed as fuck (you vill learn the move tech)
holy fuark game unironically saved
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kiss the fortune teller
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movementGODS we are SO BACK
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Im new to this gen, do people here watch and discuss deadlock night shift?
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>>550508659
a few people do, you can stay here and call the losing teams stupid niggers with us when they draft like retards
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>>550508659
I see others do it, but personally, I'm incapable of giving a shit about the competitive scene.
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>>550508659
i watch it only to make fun of protards
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>>550508457
We have shit like Sinclair and other models with obvious clipping, not to mention all the unfinished or unimplemented elements.
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>>550509068
That doesn't make it early, that just makes them lazy.
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They need to add the fucking guitar hero frog to deadlock NOW
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is the game... le saved now?
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>>550509119
That just makes them Valve, humble Swedish car manufacturer.
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Lashbros...we are so back...
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They should add the ability to laugh at other players like in Smite.
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>>550509262
>catering to movementkeks
>saved
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>more unironic hyper-buffs to ult + ball seven
Oh no no no no no!
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PRMGM
PRMGM
PRMGM
inhouse shithouse patchouse trannyhouse ragehouse come play
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>>550509427
Shouldn't you be playing cod 58 right now?
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Superior stamina should remove the stamina cost on wall bouncing
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>>550509637
CoD is a movementkek franchise
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So what was the point of the wall jump and on hit slow patch?

I know it was an "experiment" since this is a playtest but what data could they possibly gleam from that?
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what happens if you complete the tree?
I ask because Ill probably wont be able to do it
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>>550509963
you get a slightly better snowball
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>>550509963
You'll get something you can gloat about for the rest of the games life like the veteran badge in tf2
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>>550509938
my guess
>hmm people are being able to rotate way too quickly, what if we nerf movement?
>*nerfs all movement that works during battle*
>hmmmmm people can still rotate way too quickly and now people just W+M1, what if we nerf move speed?
>*actually nerfs roaming/rotating*
>nice, maybe we should buff back some of the movement that works best in battle
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>>550508012
>Can't ignore defending players anymore
God, the retarded Wraith mains are gonna fucking CRY over the fact they can't just slide spam and win without a real fight.
And now I can fucking fight till my last breath and potentially make a come back for it.
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join the sneedhouse

PRMGM
PRMGM
PRMGM
PRMGM
PRMGM
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>>550509938

i think they wanted to see if the on hit bullet slow made a differencr in engagements where people just ran into each other and back
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Getting shot should make you go faster
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>>550509274
you know I read the numbers and my brain just interpreted it as attackers needed to do twice as much damage to patron when 2+ defenders are in pit, not that the patron was undamageable
I feel silly, of course 100% damage reduction means no damage at all
that's crazy, interesting to see how it plays out
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>>550508012
Now remove the diminishing returns on speed.
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>>550508012
>Can't end the game until basically the whole enemy team is dead or away
>Victor and Billy:
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>>550509938
Getting slowed was a punishment for peiple disengaging too much.
But the problem with those retreats was always fleetfoot and item MS.
So after nerfing those they could revert back the other bandaids.
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>you get a billion hp from greens now
>defenders advantage for weakened patron
Tank meta incoming
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>>550510634
No. I swear some retards would have it so you can jump across the map in half a second. There needs to be a cap on movement or else small skirmishes will be impossible since you can just cross the map in a blink.
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>>550508231
>>550510297
It's a shame you still win instantly if the entire times dies before the patron even drops.
You will not get your last stand. The only fix is making all players instantly respawn instead of only -20s on respawn.
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>>550510596
I agree, if I got shot I'd say "Yikes! I'm outta here!" And run away as fast as I can.
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>>550508117
>nerf movement 400 ways
>revert 1
>MOVEMENT IS BACK BABY
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That wasn't so bad
Not sure if I wanna go and get the baubles for everyone else though
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Isnt this patron change literally a leaked change that was going to come online with the base rework?

So theyre testing it now?
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>>550510904
No they're not testing it now, Yoshi lied about the patch
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>>550510904
yep and the leakers are feeling emboldened again:
New bases are cool, nice to see they're adding the invulnerability into live branch early
Sapphire base is max aura, amber base is cool too
It kinda has the vibe of like a cathedral made of titanium
The architecture is sorta gothic & the patrons kinda look like the attached pic (by @taffythas_art)

You shoot a 30ft tall ghost, and when you're shooting patron a big ass 2 stage hp bar pops up to more cleanly communicate when the patron is weakened
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>>550510792
>I swear some retards would have it so you can jump across the map in half a second
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>>550510761
Can't wait to hold lobbies hostage with 20k hp mo
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>>550508012
>this patch literally right before Night Shift stream
this should be fun
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>>550510983
OH NO NO NO NO SAPPHIREBROS

OUR PATRON IS SAUCELESS
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>>550511319
those high heels lookin like a powepuff girls villain
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>>550510320
Had to go, I'll play some other time.
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>>550508012
echo shard heal McG goes hard on this change
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>>550510983
Why are the patrons humanoid tho...
We should have weirdo eldritch shit
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How ticklish is Ivy?
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>>550511839
who knows if they even have a lower form, right now all we have are these weak sketches by unreliable leakers
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Adding this namefag to my filters
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>>550511839
slenderman is the new eldritch horror
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>>550512082
slenderman slenderman collect his bridge buffs or something
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niggers join

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>>550510713
As a Victor player, I approve of this change.
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NOW REVERT THE JUMP PAD PENALTIES NOW YOU FUCKS
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>>550512814
sorry sweaty, your get of of jail free card has been revoked
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>>550511057
Time to whip out ol faithful
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>game now crashes on startup
Great patch Yoshi, I'll finally be having fun today
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>>550506950
Imagine how big Ivy's belly would be if the cat become Calico.
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>sneedhouse up for 40 minutes
>3 guys in it
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>>550513631
No one notified the discordtroons
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>>550486628
your welcome
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>>550510713
>>550512521
Ah, allow me to help with that
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>>550513276
>good art
>add ai
>better art
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>vyper main
im both sad and happy about this patch
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>>550510713
>curse mandatory
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inhouse inhouse inhouse


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>>550513985
>those feet
nigga what
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>>550514359
some people are in the middle of a game
im good to sit for an hour
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>>550508012
>100% damage reduction
dios mio
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>>550511804
Do overlapping Miku heals stack?
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>>550513985
Please, jannies, delete this fucking slop.
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>>550515304
nay
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So do you wait for the team to respawn or force yourself in the base to keep the defense?
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>>550508012
>endgame fights now actually have to be fights instead of one guy holding M1 to win the game while ignoring being shot in 6 different directions
it feels a little weird this kind of quality of life change took a year to add
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>>550515401
Thank God. I mean, they'd all be running it if it did haha.
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Amber King should sound like this guy.

Hell, just get the voice actor.
https://youtu.be/2_GSYF5NSMQ?si=Mtd15FS9IeHmt0Lu
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>>550515430
stupid question alert
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RIP ethereal shift victor with maxed aura in the patron pit I'll miss you
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>>550509963
fully upgraded snowball does 20 damage and you get 5 to throw before it recharges, so free early lane 100 damage if you can aim
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>>550516196
Nahh
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>all this health change so priest doesnt blow noobs up
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victor + colossus witchmail viscuous in the pit denying your funny fucking siege for 30 seconds as visc balls around and constantly cubes victor
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I've learned a lot from doing these challenges
mostly that I can't aim
seriously, people jiggle strafe and I miss every shot aimed straight at their chest
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>Sapphire Queen with high heels and black lipstick and is 30ft tall
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>>550515430
Play tank, bunny hop around until your team respawns
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>>550516424
I saw fully upgraded snowball has 3 projectiles, so isn't one toss 60 damage if you hit all 3?
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>>550516552
>seven with max ult + unstoppable/refresher
>victor
>some other suppotsissy like kelvin/paige/viscous
yep good luck ending the game kek
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I like how Yoshi just waits until night shift starts to release meta changing patches
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I don't know if this change will be very significant, as the team who is pushing their lead is usually snowballing anyways, but at least people can't just straight up ignore the defender team to focus on the patron
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inhouse
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>>550517018
dawg pro dota 2 is in the middle of a massive tournament i think and they just had a patch that changes everything + new hero. they always pull this shit kek
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>>550517018
Valve released a massive dota update during dreamleague
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>>550517318
it makes backshotting the patron almost impossible and forces your team to always win a teamfight on their base to finish the game, you can't just leave 1 tard to clutch it up
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Did they add too many defenders advantage now bros?

7k shrines
Patron invul
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>>550517774
Guess they thought games taking less than 30 minutes was bad
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>game's meta was getting patron weakened and just ignoring the other team while you all m1 it
>can no longer do that so games are gonna be even longer
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Ivys feet need some stone polish and rubs
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>>550517774
i mean if the defenders win enough you become the defender, megacreeps are rarely felt but thats because i havent had enough games. really this is a buff to hypercarries that can stall the game until they win unless you learn items to counter them better and coordinate shitting on them
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>>550516196
If we're throwing out VA ideas for the patron I think John Noble would be decent
https://youtu.be/OewZWOl4f9E?si=X5m6fXiQ3OOMztA1
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>>550516858
ah fuck im unsure now, i saw a image saying otherwise but maybe that was a edit or maybe yours was, Im gonna see if theres any youtube videos on it
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>>550517774
Mega creeps thoughbeit
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>>550516921
I don't think Seven floating above the pit would count for the defense buff since he's always Not In Pit when he tries attacking with the ult
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just force the defenders out of the pit with your billy/dynamo/haze/infernus/lash/mina ults
or turn the pit into lava with your victor aura/mikuginnis turret nest
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>>550517972
the fuck are you on?
it'll get delayed by 10-40 seconds at best
>team fails the final fight
>patron gets ripped apart as usual
>team wins final fight
>they sprint over and kill the other teams patron
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>>550518568
pick seven and press 4
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>>550518384
It doesn't, same with Mina ult
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sneedhouse join in only 4 slots sneeded

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8/12
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>>550518598
>no map control
>it takes 3 waves for one lane, at least 1:30
>if the game length is under 40 minutes you just get map neutral or a little further before they respawn
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>>550518384
usually when you seven ult above the pit they just focus the patron and win
This change buffed that use a lot now as long as you have teammates up
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>>550519046
with the mega creeps from destroying shrines it will take less time for them to reach enemy base
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>>550518384
>>550519096
this is where seven bumping his head on the spawn tunnel and floating the same height and getting focused earlier would be better i think, just dont do it as a final last ditch effort alone
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>new amber patron voice actor
how much would your jimmies be ruffled
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>>550519128
it makes the invading team get megacreeps, so less time with that argument if you have players still sitting behind there waves and not cutting them off early from the zipline. maybe if you have one heroic aura to boost your troopers up you dont need all lanes to their base
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>>550519559
>*dull monotone* Mina's getting her bats in the tiddy twister. Someone stop her. Dildo
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>>550519002
9/12
3 knee growers
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Guess the winner
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>>550519559
>Gooood Shiv, shove your fist up their asses
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>>550519948
Abrahams 2-0
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>>550519948
>abram team didn't pick abram
>vyper team picked vyper
seems pretty obvious
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>>550517774
Attackers get fast ziplines for destroyed guardians and megacreeps for destroyed shrines so it's fine for the defenders to get something as well imo, haven't played a lot on this patch yet though
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TWO retards needed

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Lets test this patch
need a couple more
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>>550520597
i'll join if you post a funny joke
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wtf maxed snowball actually sounds like usable in-game
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>>550520982
11/12 we just need one retard

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I keep wanting to get back into this game but having a job makes me have zero motivation to play it. Idk how to describe it. I want to give it another try but I have zero motivation to play it with the little free time I have now.
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Metro green wraith BUFFED by patron change

Apologize
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For me it's Brimblo, the best deadlock player that I will shill relentlessly because I'm a loser
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>>550521437
haha
what if ivy stone formed and landed on your face ahahha
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>>550517018
Valve regularly releases big patches in the middle of dota tournaments.
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>Yoshit cucks Metro's video a couple hours later

LMAO
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>>550517972
they added megatroopers the other day
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inhouse new patch
come play
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You guys see the souvenir above the fireplace?
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>>550522439
No, none of us have.
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN FOR CHRISTMAS!!!
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So after all these autistic patches what actually happened?

Did holding W actually get nerfed?
Are people still deathballing?
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>>550523365
The game is the same, only now less people are playing it out of spite
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>>550523365
they added a movespeed cap and kneecapped wraith
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how does it feel like to chew 5 gum
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>>550523365
braindead movement is weaker and jump pads arent a get out of jail free card

which is good
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>>550519948
kelvin, doorman and shiv might just be top 3. they run these games. I can't envision a trio more assured of victory
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>>550523365
Skillful movement and resource usage buffed
Braindead W keying movement (which many here clearly crutched on) was nerfed so they may actually have to play the game now
Yoshi eventually hits the bullseye
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They should just make it physics based. If you get shot while walking at someone the bullet slows you down, if you get shot from behind it would speed you up. It would a stat unique to each hero's gun. So it's harder to just charge at someone while they're emptying a high calibre revolver into you
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>>550523967
I legit think some of the changes were just an excuse to torture playtesters again
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>>550522095
Does the tutorial still not finish?
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Isnt the patron change too strong or was attackers advantage that good?

Surely damage reduction is better than just total invulnerability?
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>>550503180
its a shooter moba fusion you faggot
if you want to play a normal moba than just play dota
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what did they do to patron? can I still backdoor it as wraith or gunlico?
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>>550525194
pushing the base in gives you mega creeps and total map control with the ziplones bro
what the fuck are defenders supposed to do with that
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>>550525523
READ NIGGA READ
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>>550525583
erm no
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>>550525996
>update
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>>550525996
>update available
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>>550523365
>lose everything up to patron
>mega creeps mean we can’t just clean lanes or push easily
>patron defense bonus means they can’t just snuff us out
>just 20 minutes of turtle fight
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>>550525996
im staying in lobby so it doesn't cancel
code is the same
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>>550510983
>Patrons are hazbin hotel characters
No no no no no no no
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>duplicate heroes enabled
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ready up bucks
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>>550510983
>the one on the right has hips and heels
Oh glorious Sapphire Flame... Our City Mommy... i mean Mother...
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>>550526564
12 IVY'S
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>>550511839
>le incomprehensible eldritch form!!!
>is just a ball of shapes
Reddit take
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>>550526564
soul
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im gonna miss the old patrons
the new ones definitely look more intimidating but i like how the old ones felt more like they weren't actually the patrons so much as they were a vessel or avatar for them to inhabit as they weren't fully present on our plane of existence yet. the ghosts convey that too to an extent at least
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>>550527540
While I get what you mean, it's hard to take them seriously when they look like this.

it's nice they're giving them distinguishing looks too
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>>550527540
The current design of the patrons could go a long way if iterated but currently they are pretty bland.
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>>550527540
My only.problem is that the new patreons arent as weird
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January update will have new Yamato and Warden models inshallah
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>>550519559
I would only accept this if the sapphire flame was avgn
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>>550503696
>>550503991
>cocksucking fucking metro
the absolute state
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Reminder if you support movement nerfs you are a csgo or overwatch shitter trying to shoehorn your dead game into something new. Kill yourself.
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How do you win as the useless nigger hero Bebop? I can't even make him into an ultbot because his ult sucks big dick.
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>>550529309
warden is a bit left field isnt it? I guess the others are pretty big projects (vyper, viscous, shiv)
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>>550529947
Ah yes the two dead games with playerbases that dwarf Deadlock's.
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>>550529947
>movement via slides, walljumps, stamina, movespeed = good
>movement-based abilities = ass cancer free escape
Yoshi needs to crack down on any 2 abilities having less than a 25 second cd
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>>550529947
my dick twitched, ai is getting scary bros...
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>>550529947
The funny thing is being against movement nerfs is a sign you are a shitter in deadlock
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>>550529729
>you hear something from the sapphire side after they throw mid boss
>"AAASSS!!!"
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>forgot I had Mirage All Screams Edition voice pack on
>hear AURRRAAAAAGH and FOR THE DJINN 2 blocks away
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>>550493365
he's one of the hardest characters in the game and is also draft reliant when there is no draft
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>>550530713
your wife is my wife...
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>>550529729
>vinny dies
>Gowsht Bushtersh!
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so why is skillful shit like Holliday mid when Abrams and Billy are allowed to be server admins by just bashing their heads against their keyboards
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>>550529729
>>550530509
>So get this, if you're far away enough from the enemy objectives that they can't shoot you, guess what happens?
>Your gun just stops fucking working! I guess the bullets just magically turn to rubber past that range, what were they thinking?! It's like they wanted you to die of boredom waiting for your troopers to show up to tank the hits, just for them to get wiped instantly!
>I'd rather take those useless candle fucks and shove them up my ass! What a shitload of fuck.
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>>550527540
There are new patrons? Or did the new models get leaked?
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>>550531198
Because Hero Lab characters are obviously undercooked and of inferior quality. They all feel like someone added them as a mod after the game released.
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>>550531198
With these new patron changes tanks just got a whole world stronger
>Oh remember that Shiv, Billy, and Abrams who take 10 years to kill even with antiheal? Well now you can't win the game if they're alive. Oh their team respawned while you guys spent 30 seconds killing them? Oh well haha
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hope the patrons turn into a jungle objective or something
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>>550531198
>has 6 charges of 600 damage barrels
>has the best mobility ability in the game on 3 charges
>has mo ult but better
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>>550531198
Abrams and Billy don't have 3 bounce pads that launch them halfway across the map, they don't have verticality, they don't throw AOE nukes while they're flying and they also don't have a passive ability that does 1000 burst damage with no fall-off
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>>550527540
pff, they aren't going to remodel the patron
the game is basically finalized
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>>550531617
I really think there should be more things to do in the jungle. Like a roaming miniboss that doesn't appear on the map or something
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>>550531772
is your dumbass seriously arguing for billy and abrams not being braindead?

good lord
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>>550531453
Amber hand leaked a while ago but they were only testing the one side of the map on the test server so we haven't seen sapphire
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>>550532624
Am I reddit if I think this looks kino as heck? I hope Sapphire is as cool, god I want to fuck a big 30ft goddess
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patron change might be the best change they've done ever.
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>>550532448
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>enemy dynamo swaps into my lane (bebop)
>dynamo and enemy infernus both get carried by my lane partner Abrams
>they both die, dynamo gets mad and abandons the lane, forcing enemy Yamato to swap
>Yamato and infernus feed
>infernus asks when bebop is going to get a "real nerf"
>dynamo crying in all chat the entire game
lots of whiny bitches today
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in case youre wondering who's playing the inhouses: there is a faggot one tricking warden and wraith named "Dishonest". he's a gay twink with advertisements for his own fucking onlyfans on his profile, including a faggy close up oif his face as the prof pic. his sole point of existance is shuffletrannying and ruining inhouse lobbies. he's such a faggot that when someone takes his chars he IMMEDEATLY bails onto the spectator slots like a cuckold. a cuckold with no dignity, no balls, no bitches and no heterosexuality in his DNA. gas him ans his family now.

thanks for coming to my ted talk. yes i had to make this post. yes, hes still in his gay fucking cuck bench cuz people picked warden/wraith before him :^)
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>>550532738
No anon, liking things isn't Reddit.
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>>550532979
>carried
PARRIED* fucking cellphone, you never tried to autocorrect that before.
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>>550533007
keep it to discord, tranny. no one here gives a fuck about your high school drama
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>>550533007
there's at least 3 people like this in the trooncord
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>>550533007
Wrong. He only won and carried because the sinclair was the worst player of all time and only focused Mo
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>>550533007
>how come you don't plan inhouse?
>some guy literally doxxing people
>and then the people he's doxxing are fucking weirdos too
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>>550533212
hahaha drifter is that you?
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>>550532317
i can see them putting in an ancient camp equivalent in big set piece buildings like the bank
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>>550533258
hey not original poster but its not doxxing it they are hanging it out
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>>550532738
its cool but i think sapphire should have been more fantasy-themed and amber should have remained the industrial side with all the giga pipes in base and the old, mechanical puppet patron as the patron's vessel
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>>550533212
>>550533287
he also only plays warden and wraith and loses otherwise
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>>550533442
yeah just wait until someone actually decides to dox anyway. I've been a part of a LOT of 4ch guilds and shit and the doxing is almost inevitable
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>>550533407
the plan is to make every building on the map like that, january's patch is supposed to have a lot of interiors
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>>550533856
oh interesting, damn i was hoping theyd put some shit in there that interior is cool
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>>550533158
he's NOT on the 'cord so i have to post here to shittalk him, sadly

>>550533212
he's still a faggot for picking nothing but his 2 mains and then immedeatly hiding in his snail retard shell whenever those two are taken. little cuck with no redeeming qualities. pretty much everyone in the inhouse lobbies plays new things if their mains are taken/there's no balancing required

ps: shoutout to serene. we had a manly 1v1. good fight
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>>550527540
>>550527730
The current patrons would make for nice earrings I think.
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>want to try and fill the holiday challenge
>minimum time to finish would be 12 hours (if you win each match)
has anyone here finished theirs yet?
Bebop and Yamato is like chewing glass
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I wish the game went harder on the art deco aesthetic, I feel like it's getting more and more drowned out with time especially with the map rework and is more just 40's-50's Americana
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gun meta my fucking ass
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>>550531527
>try Victor
>5v1 enemy team
>feel bad as enemy Abrams tries punching me when in ethereal form
>poor guy only has 10k damage at end of match
Victor absolutely fucks
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>>550534507
its going to be a clusterfuck with skins so they dont want you getting too attached with anything
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>>550534295
I'm doing all the (likely, to me) hardest ones first and saving my mains for last. Bebop isn't so bad, just build cdr and gun
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>>550533007
so what's the link to his onlyfans then
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>>550534507
c0ompletely agree, im so glad at least the item icons are very art deco in their design, but i'd like to see more of it in the map as well. i dont think there ever was an art deco-occult setting that utilized both those teams together well
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>>550508012
me when i say i am going to commit to big changes in my life
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>>550534880
idk i didnt chase that shit i was too busy playing when he hid in his shell cuz >nooooooooooo they took my gay ass picks!!!111111 i gonna runnn!!!!

also ive completely made it up because hes a faggot and i hate him :^)
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>>550534507
i think the sapphire side is going to look more deco in a couple art passes, since it's got the theater and the lolo noir bar, while amber has a gas station and a warehouse
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mobatards really do fixate on one other player at a time and turm into cunts about it
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>play one inhouse game
>receive friend request after game
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>>550536120
>>play one inhouse game
fucking loser
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>>550536120
>takes it personally
yeah get socially climbed chud
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How the fuck do I win with Bebop now? I feel like I just get punished for landing hooks even when half my net worth is green
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>nearly 600 hours
>still stuck in Seeker/Initiate

Others have told me that if this is the case, this game is probably not for me, and I'm hard pressed to disagree. It really feels like there's something fundamental about the game that I just can't wrap my head around, no matter what. What do you guys think?
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>>550536469
i don't want you footfags anywhere close to me
i join the inhouse to ruin your games
and that's it
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>>550534198
I'll get you back someday on a Mo or mcg mirror to unstain my perfect record
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>>550536120
i have like 4 friend invites from the inhouses
sorry bros but i don't like online friendships, there's a reason i use 4chan
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>>550508012
Jesus the game feels so much better now
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>>550536649
Fucking how? I'm nearly arcanist at 206 hours.
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>>550513985
hot
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>>550536478
I buy all greens except radiant regeneration and suppressor
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>>550537167
Maybe because the playercount has dropped significantly since the August update, the lower rank matches, despite being lower-ranked, are populated with players who have a much better understanding of the game than me, and re able to spot and exploit all the weaknesses in my team's plays and builds.

Or maybe I'm just mega-retarded. Both are equally likely.
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do you think whoever made victor made a bespoke benis for their creation or just went with whatever was attached to the pelvis they settled on
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>>550537779
post a recent replay code, you dont have to say which guy you are
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STOP BUYING FLEETFOOT
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At least you can say a forced 50/50 is not part of the matchmaking algorithm
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>>550536649
that's pretty bad, man. maybe eatch a few replays and see what dumb shit you did, then see what people who steamrolled you did
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>>550535175
I hope so, although I misremembered a bit going through comparison videos. Definitely was more art deco in my flawed memory. The tonal problem I stand by though, the bottom pic has the best example I can find with the clash of 20's and 50's styles being confused like it's Fallout 4.
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>>550537940
Alright, gimme a second to reinstall
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>>550537961
it will be boughted until the shooting while moving penalty is removed
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>>550537816
>Picrel
Unironically happen because victor has some magical fuckery attached to him that makes everyone that interacts with him feel sorry for him
Also yeah he has a stitched penis
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>>550537961
Okay give me an alternative item
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>>550536649
I was arcanist 1 3 days ago and now I'm seeker 3, I don't think the match making is right yet.
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>>550538351
no______
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>>550538351
ring of enduring speed
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>>550508231
it's a bandaid before Patron get's reworked in January anyways
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>>550536649
you can stay but please dont share your opinion on balance
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Thoughts on the patron change

Feels like it only matters with backdoors
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Ascendant here
Bebop should get an additional .2 scaling on his bombs, thanks
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>>550538867
works for me, maybe we'll stand a chance when they just ignore our 0 dmg to end
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>>550538907
yoshi here
granted but bebop now loses stacks on death again, thanks
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>550493653
I'd rape your peak, trannylow freak.
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>>550536649
How the hell man initiate is full of people who genuinely don't know what they are doing and are aiming with laptop trackpads
t. 200 hours ritualist
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>>550539142
I kneel, schizogod.
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>>550537940
>49159802

Here you are. Don't hold back.
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>>550538253
Not everyone
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>Metro video immediately outdated

what went right
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>>550539442
Lvsh is so fvking bvsed
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>>550539442
The lash obviously know that patches is already a dead body so it's but a joke that he'd let him die
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>>550539370
which lane are you in?
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>>550539934
I'm the Dynamo
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>>550536649
>>550538374
>>550537167
>got a lucky 9 out of 10 win streak during the calibration period because smurves carried the shit out of me
>mfw I'm Arcanist 1 with 20 hours playtime and zero idea what the fuck am I even doing
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>>550538130
I miss old mid
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>3 ranks down already since locking in all heroes
oh boy
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>bnuy with clock lets melee creeps have doorman warden billy AGAIN
what the fuck are they doing???
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>game result is already decided halfway through the draft
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I think comparing Rem with Haze is the perfect display of how the tone has shifted
>Haze is a "sandman", a government assassin that using magic to enter people's dreams to kill them. Her outfit has a sleek militaristic look with two modern looking maching guns but it's also mystical and unconventional with daggers and a woman made of smoke that reminds you she isn't like the soldiers from our world
>Rem is a little bird fella in a night cap and he runs around with a pillow to put you to sleep honkshoo honkshoo mimimimimimi :D
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>>550540872
what about evil ass cajun vampire
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>>550540742
whoa now Victor is actually playable again
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>>550540872
>I'm goo
>Wee!
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>>550541090
Why is his ass evil?
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>>550540872
we can have both and always have had both
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>>550541206
has not been washed since the US was a colony of the crown
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They should reveal that Mo is deaf and him listening to Krill's commands has just been pure coincidence
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>>550541090
he looks like a grimy hobo, really nothing egregious
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>>550541206
Cajuns are descended from the C*ndians and the Fr*nch
he was born that way
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>>550540872

The game is set in New York
Rem is a dude who lives in an apartment that just wants to sleep

This is more kino than Haze
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>>550541191
i love this goopy lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
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Man holiday is not fun to play at all. The barrels are pretty much unusable on the ground and require light melee slapping them, to the point i wonder why the ability isn't just another grenade
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>>550541857
Maybe you're not meant to use them at ground level
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>>550541857
you dont know the tech, try fucking around with how she works in the training room
shes honestly the most fun to play, lash is close behind
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>>550540076
do you main dynamo?
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>>550540872
Rem is also a glowey thoughbeit
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>>550542164
Nope. I've got a bunch of characters selected on the roster. Some I'm more familiar with than others. Dynamo's one of the ones I haven't played as much.
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>>550542343
hmm post the most recent game you played on one of your most played
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Watch Rem actually being Haze's boss or something lmao
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There should be some sort of a heal station by every walker.
Not just to make them more defensible and add some depth to sieging them ( attackers having to choose between focusing the walker or trying to snipe people healing/ deny it) But primarily to add a safety net to laning so if you take a really bad trade or you win a fight on 1 hp, you're not stuck under tower for a significant time. Would also encourage diving to confirm a kill or add counterplay by running around and trying to cut someone off when they go heal.
Also there should be an indicator on the zipline signs when an enemy is in it or at least when they're boosting. Or maybe even just straight up tell you how many people are in a lane so deathballing is obvious or something you have to hide by using the jungle.
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If Rem is real and gets released looking like some stupid gay chungus sleepyhead fag then I am going to take my own life.
blood will be on your hands Yoshi.
You don't want that
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>>550542437
>48808463
Here's one with my most played hero.
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>>550542605
this all sounds rather gay and retarded
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>>550542605
This sounds pretty retarded and gay
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>>550540076
just watching the first few minutes, you will get a good stomp and win a good damage trade and then stand in the open for them to shoot at you
you waste a lot of early game potential when you buy healing rite first when you could just avoid a lot of that damage altogether, and dynamo has a built in heal anyways
so I guess as far as early game goes at least you could try to focus on getting and keeping a health advantage
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Thoughts on the damage reduction?
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>picked every character in the queue pool for the challenge and get one i literally only had 1 game on (calico)
>archon lobby so i completely wipe the floor with the other team and basically win on my own even though the rest of my team fed hard too, top everything except assists and healing
jesus it actually felt like a bot match, i didn't think the difference between ranks would be THAT big
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melee creeps win again
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>>550543317
were there any cool base defenses
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>>550543351
ask me in the discord
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>>550543351
no warden and doorman shot the rabbits in the head
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>>550540076
you are very wasteful with your healing rite, it's 70s coolddown so you can't be doing that when you pop it just hide while it does its thing and get boxes. also don't put it on your teammate when they are mid gunfight, say something on mic or in chat about giving him healing rite (look up videos on box routes if you have to)
you take bad trades, you basically never want to take a gun trade in lane as dynamo, just let them come to you, kick, and dive into cover
don't ult in lane unless your teammate is nearby or the enemy is going to get hit by the tower or you just wasted a 230s cooldown
if you are going to buy headshot booster buy it first item
you use your 2 for no reason a lot
you solo ulted ivy while no teammates were around and afterwards went to help infernus who was being chased by like 3 enemy heros, dynamo ult wouldve been nice to have there
you also kinda just let people kill you when you get low, you should run and make enemies work to kill you because it distracts them from killing other players or objectives
you boughted juggernaut, plated armor, and bullet resilience you only need one and 90% of the time bullet resilience is just more cost effective than the other two, you would have been better off buying superior cooldown, or escalating resilience, or toxic bullets literally everyone on their team had lifesteal and paige had healing rite
when you are dynamo and you have ult your only goal should be to find a team fight and catch 2-6 people or even just 1 person if that one person is the enemy carry
you said you feel like you are missing something fundamental about the game that other people aren't, i think one of them is that you never look at your map and you spend almost not time in the jungle even to just get to another lane. in a 44 minute game you spent about 40 minutes of it in a lane and took 1 (1) sinners sacrifice and maybe like 2 camps. you need money if you are trying to carry.
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>>550542058
>you dont know the tech
i know all about how you can light melee it in different ways. still do not enjoy it.
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Trying to do the christmas challenge is really frustrating
>get hero I never play
>lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose win
>move onto another hero I don't play
>lose lose lose .etc
Hero based match making my ass. It's like 3 half ranks lower, I get that differences when I play at night
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whole lotta self reporting that people only know how to play 3 heroes
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>>550543134
Unless you're an near immortal tank like Shiv, it doesn't mean much if the team's already winning. Sure, gives you a fighting chance, but chances are, their team steamrolls you unless you have the BIG game changing ults.
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>deadcuck
>20k online at it's peak
>dota 2
>450k online at it's lowest
was it worth it, icefraud?
I said it before I'll say it again, deadlock is too low skill to attract CS players, it's too shallow to attract dota players, the game is only appealing to team fortress 2 autists (the weirdest community in gaming, full of psychopaths and criminals and weirdos btw) because the only real skill in the game is doing the stupid source movement tricks/bugs, the game is never going to be good or popular without a massive overhaul at this point
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>>550545653
worth it alone just to make you seethe
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>>550545653
Bro why are you seething

Dota just got a kino frog hero
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>>550545785
far from seething, I'm laughing
they put dota 2 on a skeleton crew for THIS
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>>550545653
I find Deadlock games (NA East) significantly faster than I find Dota games
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largo in deadlock....
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>>550545978
it's basically the same for me
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>>550545928
dota had one update all year, this frog, and no event like last year's crownfall
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>>550545978
>>550546062
thats because dota is still mostly played by americans and russians
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>>550546039
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Not gonna lie. Drifter whistling Christmas carols is way more frightening than his default whistle.
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Dota updates didnt slow down because of Deadlock you cuck

It slowed down because of HLX
This is literally the same shit that happened before Alyx came out
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>>550546082
i thought they stopped doing the battlepass so they could do more updates throughout the year? They only got one?
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>>550546315
he here to cry about CS updates
which is hilarious because its the same game figured out for 30 years that'll never be changed in a fundamental way
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>>550546678
genuinely wtf is there to update in counter strike
if you introduce a new weapon or item everyone will shit and piss their pants and cry endlessly because they want their safe baby click head game
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>we've officially looped back to people saying deadlock is neglected because of hlx
jesus fucking christ just pull the plug on this god awful game
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>>550545961
You're lucky they don't just shut your slop down, it's only a matter of time
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hentai lovers xtreme?
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>>550547558
Half-Life XXX, the HL eroge where you get to put a baby in all the girls
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>>550547287
I didnt say that tho faggot
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every team I've played against all week has simply outfarmed mine
I don't know what to do
the loss streak is only growing and growing
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are people done trying to get all the stupid ornaments yet?
can i play normal games now?
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>>550546039
Only if we're allowed to play custom songs like Mordhau
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>>550549616
I was doing so well catching up to the others I play with, I'm going to be stuck in HSR matches FOREVER
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So… Wyoming?
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>>550549792
come back in february when the next patch releases
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>>550546271
>Drifter whistling Christmas carols is way more frightening than his default whistle
They go hard af
https://files.catbox.moe/aj3wee.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/fbi2ck.mp3
https://files.catbox.moe/dlsv5l.mp3
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10/12 inhouse
V5HNU
V5HNU
V5HNU
join niggerz
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>last patch was supposedly bad
>won 4 games in a row
>today's patch is supposedly good
>lost 4 games in a row
deadtards?
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So what do we bitch about now?
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>>550513985

I'm not saying you should kill yourself anon

I'm just saying that if you did, the world would be a better place

You have the power to change the world for the better
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>>550551993
lack of big update on december
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>>550540872
I'm gonna be like otr when werewolf releases
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>>550551114
Huh, surprisingly kinda kino
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>>550534912
>the items are so ART DECO!
what the fuck are you talking about
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the game feels 2x as good now without the first-walljump-stamina
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>>550542914
you play very timidly in lane for a pocket. i feel like you are not paying attention to what your teammate is doing. there were many times you could've killed someone with a slight amount of risk and you went back to shop every time
in the mid game you seem unsure of what to do. you hop between lanes and push them out but then just do nothing or take little pot shots at enemy heros while waiting for the next creep wave. you need to push wave and then take enemy sinners/camps
you ignore sinners WAY too much. if there is a sinner up near you, take it. if there is an enemy taking it alone, contest them. while you are punch the sinners LOOK AT THE MAP
there a time in this game you have 6.4k and instead of buying you skirmish for about 3 minutes and you soul count grows to about 11k and when you go to shop you buy one 3.2k item and leave with about 9k souls. later on you go back to fountain holding 10k and again buy one 3.2k item leaving you with 7k souls and you get right back to fighting. note, you have extra spirit at this point (not even improved spirit) which you can more than afford to upgrade to boundless, you still have healing rite, sell that ffs. cold front can be upgraded. spend your money.
in fights you seem to just press buttons in a memorized order or when they come off cd, not when they actually make sense to use them
also for pocket specifically, you really dont need mystic expansion, especially when you are maxing your ult first, if maxing you ult first is how you like to play pocket you really really need to get spirit burn.
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>>550551114
>https://files.catbox.moe/dlsv5l.mp3
What one is this? Someone said God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen but that's literally my favourite carol and I don't hear it
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I progresse
Trying to do 3 a day, managed 4 wins in a row today :DD
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>>550549616
maybe do da urn?
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I have lost 4 fucking ranks thanks to this shitty event
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My rank has gone up because I'm not a one trick dishonest retard
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>>550555045
Did they fix 4chan x quick reply captcha yet, the normal comment box sucks
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>>550554979
I can barely hear it, mostly near the end. I think it's just hella slowed down
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>>550545653
>dota 2 gets updates and events, HUGE balance updates that come with 3 whole hero reworks and who knows what else
>Deadlock gets nothing for Christmas other then a "lose more" event without even having skins
>the dotafag is still mad
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>>550555253
same lmao. I was climbing too. It'd be soulless not to do it though. Good time to dip your toes into heroes you haven't played in years.
>haven't played lash since august 2024
>be shit
>he's still fun
>play bebop, a previous main of mine
>want to kill myself
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>>550555478
>DEADlock has nothing to do but grind for rank
>the new event tells you to play hero's you never tryed so you can lose rank.

I really should stop playing this game, valve is going to close it any day now so its not even a huge loss
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>>550555472
One game is released and has like 2 million slavs and mentally ill westerners playing at any hour, buying enough cosmetics to fund a new yacht for GabeN on the daily
And Deadlock is a closed playtest that they make 0 money off of
How the fuck are you guys this retarded I cannot fucking fathom this general
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>>550554979
>What one is this?
God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
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>>550555705
>grind for rank
what for
you don't get the special bikini mina skin for hitting ascendant
it's just a logo NO ONE BUT YOU can see
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>>550555705
>hero's
>tryed
sar...
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>>550555705
They should've "froze" rank during the event. Like, make it covered in ice. Make everyone join in on the fun.

It's ass if only some people are fucking around
>queue for hero I've never played
>everyone on the enemy team are on their mains sweaty their butt off
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>>550555705
>its
ESL
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>>550555472
January update (releasing February) will be worth the weight
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>>550555916
I've actually been winning more since the event started but matches are weird. Lower rank lobbies, more stompy than it even was before, thankfully mainly in my favor. I'm not a one-trick either so it's nice to have a reason to play every hero
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>>550556343
nigger if they said they'd barely make december with the big update why are you now memeing its feburary, STOP THAT
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>>550555253
>>550555478
events that force variety like this are a recipe for disaster in hero based games because of all the trannies who base their entire personality off being "the MINA guy" "the HAZE guy" in short they're 1tricks who are completely fucking clueless if they play outside of their comfort zone
grim.
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The March update is gonna SLAP
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>>550556554
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>>550556343
>>550556439
>>550556554
Anons... I'm afraid only the April patch can save Deadlock now...
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>>550543985
>>550552816
Appreciate the feedback. I tried applying some of your suggestions in my latest match. Let me know what you think.

>49172470
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>>550523692
What's even the hard cap? Nothing in-game nor on any sites say anything about the hard caps.
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>>550511057
Doesn't mo lose out from flat instead of percent hp?
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>>550555705
>so you can lose rank
Thanks to this event I've been on like a 12 game winning streak
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>>550551114
My cats did NOT like that
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So am I still meant to buy fleet foot and enduring speed every game or what? They nerfed all speed so I feel like I'm meant too more than ever
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IT IS CATHARTIC GETTING THAT 1 WIN AS A CHARACTER YOU HATE PLAYING AS.. NEVER AGAIN ON SOME OF THESE MF'IN CRETINS...
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>>550557903
they nerfed buying speed items specifically to stop people buying enduring speed and fleetfoot every game
you're supposed to use your stamina better
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>>550557903
No, now you buy superior stamina and one of the other stam items every single game for a few months
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>>550552576
Instead say: I don't think the item icons are art deco.
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Well at least the patch is good enough to get me through the holidays

I just hope we get the deadlock patch second week of January
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>>550536649
playing lane janny alone will get you to at least arcanist because everyone lets walkers die/take massive chip from minions
in fact if you just shove the wave without showing on minimap there's a high chance the enemy doesn't even bother to stop it because there's no players to BROOL
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>>550558638
Best I can do is the second month of January
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>>550558750
I used to think I wanted to swap bodies with Abrams... but Victor tho...
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>>550558832
You want to be in constant pain with your limbs falling off?
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>>550558832
>mismatched limbs
>chronic pain
>can't believe how much that stinks
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>>550558897
>>550558895
>victor is a troon allegory
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>550558638
hmmm I think we deserve an extra vacation for these last two nothingburger patches
see you in March!
t. Yoshit
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>>550558749
>if you just shove the wave without showing on minimap
how do I master this art? what's the minion sight range?
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>>550545653
>>550545961
>>550555750
TF2 was still raking in tens of millions during Jungle Inferno (not even during it's peak). Even after 8 years of no major updates, TF2 is still making a cool ~8 million dollars with every case drop. I don't think Dota would end up pulling the same numbers if it went 8 years with zero major updates.

That being said, I don't think a genuine Dota beaner would really want to bring up revenue or even player count. CS2 dwarfs Dota in terms of player count AND revenue, it's not even funny. With this logic, it would be perfectly valid for Valve to give Dota beaners the TF2 treatment. After all, they definitely should dedicate the lion's share of resources and manpower to the actual big money makers. I don't even have to bring up Steam (the actual license to print money that allows Valve to dedicate so much time and resources on "a closed playtest that they make 0 money off of").
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do you guys like m,y new vindicta build
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>>550558984
He himself, is not. Wanting to be him, is though.
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>>550559203
Valve likes working on Dota more because they can just fuck the game up with patches

CS fags hate change
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>>550559203
TFTroons are insane
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>>550556439
february (2027)
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Inhouse.
GK6DY
GK6DY
GK6DY
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What the fuck is up with the matchmaking?
Why am I being put up against multiple Phantom+ players tonight as a Ritualist?
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>>550558750
>>550558832
we should make it canon that victor has a micropenis
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>>550561029
only if he has massive balls stitched on from someone else
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mina is flat tho
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>>550560969
5/12
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>>550559245
>divine barrier instead of debuffed
why?
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>>550560993
first time?
everything i queue as ritualist I get phantom + on the other team likely in a stack and always on someone like calico or infernus.

once I got an eternus who rolled kelvin and just said in all chat me want play haze and then whent 27 and 1 as gun kelvin with the most insane movement tech I've ever seen.
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>>550561161
old man grandfatherclock testicles
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>>550560993
it's phantom players on characters they've never played before because they are grinding the stupid snowball/ornament event.
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>rolled around the patron as a viscous ball 1v4 and was able to hold off the initial push for a couple seconds so my team could spawn

How is this balanced
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>>550561234
her rich bitch attitude makes her spiritually stacked enough to mog the rest of the cast
physically though yes
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>>550560969
8/12
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>>550561598
I’m phantom 1 and going on heroes I’ve never played just puts me in oracle 4 at the lowest
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>>550536120
>play inhouses several times a week for nearly a year
>never got a single friend request
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need 3 for inhouse
GK6DY
GK6DY
GK6DY
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>>550536649
You should be staring at the mini map 70% of the time
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>>550562436
It's okay serene you've got too much aura.
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For once we got a patch with not a single line that pissed me off
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>>550561379
hp
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>>550562379
dynaGOD stays winning
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Should more skills have their final.upgrades be weird shit insyead of just numbers?
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Need 2 for inhouse

GK6DY
GK6DY
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GK6DY
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>>550563591
need ONE (1)
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add him now!!
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>>550530713
https://x.com/ydavw/status/2001130539823325700
Is this true?
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>>550563591
>>550563838
STILL NEED 1

GK6DY
GK6DY
GK6DY
GK6DY
GK6DY
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>>550556484
>be me
>always use random characters
>so I know them all
feels good
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>>550564863
I tried to play bebop 10 times now. It's just not fun. Gun/Bomb feel useless, ult is too clunky to use. All the cool clips of bebop bomb come from premade good teammates... THIS SHIT FUCKING SUCKS ASS YOU HAVE TO HUG BURST DAMAGE ENEMIES TO STACK
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>>550565159
I agree with you. I havn't won a game with bebop yet as the speed nerf killed him, same with mirage. The nerf on his mark, those 5m were a game changer..
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What compels someone to cheat in a game that's in alpha so their rank means jack shit?
Also what's the best way to piss off cheaters and make their lives miserable.
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>>550566553
>What compels someone to cheat in a game that's in alpha so their rank means jack shit?
bored retards
>Also what's the best way to piss off cheaters and make their lives miserable.
you cant there retards
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link me a good kelvin build that don't depend on teammates. i hate this faggot and no a soul thinks it's a good idea to stick to me when i have an ult ready.
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>>550567656
have you tried playing with a friend
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>>550568051
nta but i do 3~5 games every 1~2 days with a friend. it's great.
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>>550568051
NTA, but since my friends and gf stopped playing (they waiting for ARAM mode) each match makes me realize I’d rather work overtime than play a moba solo.

It’s either my team telling me to watch a tutorial and telling to report me or enemies thinking I’m cheating, telling again, everyone to report me.

I either need new friends to do this Christmas Challenge or to find a new game at this point because it just feels like a massive waste of time compared to literally anything else, I can’t satisfy both teams, win games, keep up with the meta and do it all solo while still having a life and being employed
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>>550541090
there's no way for anybody to take drifter seriously with his current animations and models
they need to make him WAY more feral and grimy or creepy for that
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I can't aim and I have to play Grey Talon for the ornament. Should I just throw birds as much as I can?
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>>550568676
you don't need to aim well to hit his 1
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>>550566553
If you ain't hacking in this shit then I don't know what to tell you buddy
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>>550568051
probably easier to just bruteforce enough games until the state gives me a mandated win, than to train up someone with zero hours up to high elo.
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How would yoshi even make Maggie fun to fight against? I was thinking that her turrets takes 2 ~ 3 melee hits to kill, should help solve the issue of them being cheap.
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>>550555472
this post is even more retarded now that I remembered there was supposed to be a huge december patch which we are confirmed to get in january
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>>550570012
if you're not a bullet hero then fighting turret mcginnis is super fucking aids and your only option is to ignore her
if you are a bullet hero she stops existing
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I spend most of the match backing up fights and being there for kills/assists
>comes out horribly behind on souls and the other team eventually outscales us
I focus on keeping lanes clean and I try to grab nearby sinners when I'm done with a lane
>horribly behind
I farmmaxx and spend the first 20 minutes in the ju-
>behind
what do I do do I just kill myself
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>>550569986
can you train me up to high elo
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>>550570239
You're doing something wrong. I am willing to provide advice (i'm only ascendant tho) if you're willing to give a match ID that I can spectate along with which character you're playing.
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>>550570239
I relate, I remember I used to have this issue when I first started and could never figure out why I was so low on souls all the time. Eventually it clicked, but I'm not sure what it was. I think it just comes with playtime (and watching/studying a lot of Eternus streamers) But I'll give you my current checklist.
1. Try to never miss a wave until you are on par with souls with everyone else (< This can be ignored if you are a support hero)
2. Do box runs in-between waves if possible, at the very least get the boxes closest
3. Grab your sinners before the enemy does
4. Grab boxes along the way while rotating
It also depends on your hero. Some heroes are fine and deadly at low econ (i.e. Lash, Abrams) and others have inherent support utility in their kit regardless of souls (i.e. Paige, Kelvin)
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>>550570406
if i was good enough to do that i wouldn't have any problem carrying as kelvin now would I
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>>550570518
oh and also, 5. Don't miss waves for jungles. This is a very common noob mistake. Only ever jungle while the lanes are pushed far up and it's too risky to get the incoming waves.
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>>550567656
>no soul thinks it's a good idea to stick to me when i have an ult ready.
it should be the other way around, anon. YOU should stick to your people when you have your ult ready.
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>>550570585
never miss a trooper wave is old advice, it's actually fine to do it now as long as you're farming boxes or jungle for it and the person in your lane is someone that scales harder than most with souls.
it used to be bad when the soul split/share ratio was higher, but now you can box/jungle/gank and give your hyper carry solo farm.
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>>550570680
teammates have the uncanny ability to always dash jump away from me when I do that. it's a gamble if your dome has a 2v1 or a 1v3! and wraith can teleport through the wall for some reason lol!
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>>550570949
I know of this but
>trusting randoms with carrying the game
grim
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>>550570481
sure, I appreciate it a lot
49179014 vindicta
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>nine pauses in the first 2 minutes of the match so both teams can shitpost in all chat about charlie kirk and "diddy blud"
wish yoshi would remove this feature since the zoomer faggots that play this game dont actually use it for its intended purpose, ever
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>>550571503
>>nine pauses in the first 2 minutes of the match
this is literally impossible each team can only pause 3 times max
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>>550571503
for me it's agartha kirk
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bebop really fell off huh?
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>>550568051
>Try to get a friend into Deadlock
>There's only a ranked gamemode
>Which means I drag him to alchemist 5 lobbies
We still won but man does it blow not having a casual mode yet
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>>550572521
Shut up, Lash.
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>>550573462
kys, tin-skin
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how to fix victor
>t1 of painbattery is the +36 damage
>t2 of painbattery is a mini-knockup (0.2 s) that scales with spirit
and when you zap them, they do a lil jump that stiffs them out like a toon
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>>550571214
Okay, so. I'm going to go over a few things specifically related to soul income beginning at 8 minutes when you took mid guardian.
>8:50
Stay and push/kill the guardian. Force their sinners below you. Take the camp literally beside you on the roof top. Mid is being killed by Viper, the next drop is going to be at the enemy walker -- you don't need to be there. Over one minute of basically no income or threat of killing the enemy.
>11:00
You went yellow to help defend: this is good. Immediately after you left Yellow, you crossed an untouched jungle back to blue. You jumped over a Sinners to the buff roof, you passed every single untouched camp, you passed the double Sinners room, you passed the Sinners by the t2 camp. Viper was blue, there was no fear of your Guardian being attacked. That's over 1k souls easy.
>14:40
After the little kerfuffle in enemy jungle you wander around a bit getting a few boxes. There's three camps to your immediately left -- a t2 and two t3 camps, both with t1/t2 enemies you can kill. There's also a Sinners on green that nobody is touching. Yes you're 3v2, but it's Victor and Haze -- both with ults and guardian support. You're not killing them, so be greedy and get that farm.
>18:15
Your blue guardian goes down. You don't want to be there. There's tons of jungle on your side up. Instead of taking it, you do a weird loop.
>19:30
Your lash leaves. It's you and Viper mid. Two people are on your lash. This is where you turn around and try to help or escape left, steal some jungle, catch yellow wave, and then see where that goes.
>20:30
You hear them on mid. Your team is scattered across the map -- you're not going to be able to contest. Instead of going there, you should be getting as much jungle in as you can at this point since there's still a bunch of camps close your base. Instead your whole team fights in river against a team with 3 rejuvs and gets aptly destroyed.
1/2
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>>550574058
Add verticality to pain battery hitbox
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>>550574387
thanks, I guess I'm scared a lot
I see a lot of those camps that I pass but tell myself that rotating is more urgent/I'll definitely get jumped if I try to touch those

the 8:50 part is the most shaking, I hadn't even considered that I could just drop down and take their sinners to be a menace but for the camp, I was certain that haze was on her way to me and I wouldn't last a second as soon as she gets up to the roof with me
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>>550574387
>>550571214
>22:00
You respawn and head to yellow walker. Personally, I would ignore it. They have 2 rejuvs left and are most likely going there as a team to kill it -- this is where i'd instead go help Viper push green lane and/or just farm the jungle depending on what happens or who shows on the minimap.
After this the match is basically over.
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My key input: you're prioritizing fighting over farming. The thing about spirit Vindicta is that she's incredibly feast or famine. Spirit Vindicta relies a lot on your team to weaken enemies so you can snipe them. If you can't do this, you'll fall behind due to not getting consistent souls from the Snipe bonus. The meta around Spirit is that it works in high elo because your team generally communicates and knows what Spirit Vindicta is going to do.
For your elo i'd recommend gun vindicta if you want to play her specifically.
Always be heading for farm. Always prioritize getting farm and protecting your objectives. If your team is defending a walker 2v2, maybe stop to get a quick jungle camp or two on the way to help (assuming you can kill them decently quickly). Don't leave Sinner's up, the enemy will just take them and gain an advantage with them. Sinner's are a lot more important than people realize, especially over the course of a 30~40 minute match. Jungle camps shouldn't be up and left alone for too long (unless they're full t3).
Try to make semi-educated guesses on if it's smart to lag a little behind on helping a lane so you can get that Sinner's box, or that camp.
>>550575286
A good thing to do there as Vindicta / a squishy hero specifically, which I would've done, is punch the Sinner's once while looking out the doors and see what happens. If nothing, do it again, then again, etc. You could also pop the camp up and shoot at it from the corner since your team is right there with you at the time. They're going to push the guardian 2v1, you're there to make it 3 so they'll feel more emboldened.
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>>550575436
between going for the camps and being less urgent on helping fights, I guess I need to work on being less scaredy
I used to be a lot more gun build attack helicopter, but I picked up the support brainrot and forgot that gun is good for more than shredding resists for my team
thanks a lot, especially for the 8:50 bit
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>>550568051
>TFW my friends are shitters so I either sandbag on a hero I'm bad at and hate playing or end up stomping lobbies 3+ divisions below me
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>one more month until we BROOL

My friends are gonna love this patch lmao
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someone host inhouse im banned
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>>550578614
Sorry, buddy, but I don't want to lose my valve credit score
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>>550578614
from the discord?
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>>550578614
not a tranny nonce, so no thanks.
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Imagine a world where Abrams, Infernus, Ivy, Paradox, Haze, Lash, Vindicta, etc. were new heroes instead of the starting roster.

How would people react to them?
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>>550579604
who gives a shit
what a retardedly useless and waste of time question
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>pick yamato
>lose
>pick her again
>lose
>keep picking her and losing because im having fun
i understand the yamato mains now
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What items (you) think are underrated gems on characters? state your reasoning.
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>>550580590
>60 fps
>that resolution
>under 4mb
what the fuck
I don't think i've gotten webm4retards to work that well.
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>>550580752
it is extremely inconsistent for me
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>>550580590
Any meta where Yamato is bad is a good meta. Seriously fuck this character, at least billy can be parried.
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>>550580710
for my personal mains.
Mystic slow (on it's own) on Ivy is very good with Kudzu, they don't fully stack but they do stack.
lets you get more damage, especially good for catching people.
Duration extender on Abrams is just fucking fun.
More range on 2, longer stun on 2 meaning you can't get fucked by Spellbreaker + Debuff remover parry, longer ult stun to into 2 combo, longer 1 duration, spirit investment, etc etc.

and my personal favorite
Refresher Doorman
it might not be very good but the mental damage you do to someone by
ulting them, carting them into a wall, ulting them AGAIN and then carting them again WILL get people to call you slurs in all chat.
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>>550580710
Shadow Weave on Vindicta.
Gives you massive sprint speed to rotate/gank, massive fire rate + spirit power that go hand in hand with alch fire and merc mag and lets you disappear from team fights if you get focused.
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we must decapitate yoshi for his sins
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>>550580710
For me its mystic reverb on mirage. Statlock has it as one of his worst items albeit only 30 games recorded.

Its bugged with ricochet which is why no one buys it, if you go for it you have to ditch ricochet which most cannot fathom. The case against ricochet imo is that ricochet alone is not very good(and the stats bear this out, 50% wr). It only becomes good after you combo it with inhibitor(and to a lesser extent silencer). Reverb is much more of a midgame tempo build, more pick-like and anticarry. The 50%+ is the highest single item damage increase available at anypoint in the game and the innate spirit lifesteal means its also healing a lot. This is a nice combo with the t2 spirit lifestal which is one of his best items statistically. Pros and cons vs ricochet

+tempo
+consistentcy
+single target shutdown(nice for the 1v1 sidelanes)
-worse for late game teamfights mid/patron(pretty big downside)
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>>550580710
Blood tribute on dynamo. With heal maxed its the best buff in the game for free
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>>550580710
Doorman with mystic slow let’s you give people -60% movement speed with his maxed out bell, probably sell later regardless but that slow is mean during chases
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i think it's really funny how an underfed drifter is the saddest thing ever
>using the heartbeat sound to know which direction to not go
>THE HUNT BEGINS followed by getting jumped by 4 people
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>>550580710
splitshot on gun calico

She likes to be up close and personal so it lets her hit multiple targets at the same time instead of focusing on just one. I've been having really good times with it.
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>>550584153
at that point i just become an ult bot and use it to escape/for vision. my team will either let me scrape together enough souls for items to actually play instead of playing like a scared rat or we lose fast as fuck.
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>>550584153
DA HAAAAAAAWNT BEEEEEEEEHGIIIIIINS
*dies*
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>>550584153
>he cant play low economy frontline drift

Do you even know yoshis vision?
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>freshly turned vampire girl with a high society theme
>ancient feral vampire of unknown power and origin
guess which one is most suited to being an extremely oppressive carry that darts in and out of the shadows to oneshot you that you can neither escape nor catch
and which one is most likely to be a supporting debuffer
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>>550536683
why would you even post this? so bad.
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>>550583761
>probably sell later
Upgrade instead
Lightning scroll is punishing as fuck when you're trying to escape the baroness
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>>550585068
>he doesnt know

Mina rushes green now
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>>550585068
what does support drifter even look like? duration extender and refresher?
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>>550580710
Duration is criminally underrated on basically everyone. Curse is not really underrated but people just refuse to buy it(it will literally win the game, buy it)
Blood tribute is the best item in the game and not nearly abused enough.
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>>550585521
GREEENA HAAAAAA
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I sure fucking love lagging in the middle of a melee fight, what thefuck are those servers
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>>550586158
Im deadly srs

rushing 4.8k purp is +200% damage, rushing 4.8k vit is +600% health
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>>550586398
I'm skeptical of your deadlysrs numbers.
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>>550585358
>Lightning scroll is punishing as fuck when you're trying to escape the baroness
that's not how the item works, cornball
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>>550585564
unironically yes, drifter is in such a sorry ass state.
ritualist retards couldn't into the buddy system so they gutted him into meme territory twice.
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>>550586607
You could at least play along for one fucking post so someone falls for it
Can't have any fucking fun can I
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>>550587025
I cannot sabotage my doorbros like this
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>>550586559
Improv. Spirit+ surge of power brings love bite explosion from 104 to 240(+230%)

Spirit lifesteal+stam mastery brings 650 base hp to 4k(+615%)
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okay but your gameplan as mina is to just not get hit and popping a 240 damage lovebite every 8 seconds is more important than being able to survive mo combo for 2 seconds instead of 1 second
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Mina's spirit on hit is giving me aids. Why the fuck they thought it was a good idea
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>>550587480
Its simply more efficient for trading, your hp to dmg ratio is triple
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>>550587270
>Spirit lifesteal+stam mastery brings 650 base hp to 4k
Explain yourself.
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mina haze infernus and mcginnis players aren't humans and should be hunted down for sport
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>>550588184
>t. german furfag
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>>550587270
no, spirit lifesteal and stamina mastery only give her 525 hp
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>>550587932
The explanation is the calculator broke and was counting the old and new vit investment
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>>550587270
>4000 HEALTH MINA
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>seven, victor, billy, and warden are kings of the new base defense meta currently
I wonder how this will shake out?
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>>550590901
next DNS is gonna be incredible
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if you're in the pit with e shift does the patron still get defense?
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>>550592010
Yes.
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Are transgender beauties playing this game?
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>>550592624
Yeah, your mom
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>>550590901
Victor is the real stand out rn, paige too
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Melee damage should scale off of health and not weapon damage
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haven't played this week but just read the patch notes. these latest changes look like complete ass. am i correct in my assessment
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>>550592869
It should scale from all stats

>>550592924
idk
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>>550592741
This.
>struggling on Victor 2/3/5 vs a clearly insanely skilled Vyper who's up 12/0/11
>enemy team pushes into our patron pit at 22 minutes
>they're now forced to fight in my Aura
>literally teamwipe them 2v6 with my Mina
>recover a bit, but the Vyper eats 4 more people and they push back in at 25
>teamwipe them AGAIN, this time 2v6 with my Kelvin who has now made it his career to ruin the Vyper's day
>push back out and win by 28
I went from 2/3/5 to 17/5/19 on Victor because base defense exists now.
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>>550592869
not that terrible of an idea actually
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>>550592184
thanks i hate it
i really dislike the prospect of stalling but maybe i'm overthinking it and it won't get bad, i'm just imagining shit like eshift pocket with extended duration or mcginnis using echo shard to block the little hallway in pit and stall with a +1
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>>550593190
maybe it's time to bring out the classic ivy build of kudzu spam on base with all range items stacked back
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>>550593280
The only REAL change is that Tanks actually have a purpose now rather than being discount picks and the hyper-fed wraith/vyper/warden can't just ignore your team and blast the patron in 2 seconds.
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>>550592869
do you really want Mo and Abrams heavy meleeing you for 700
or billy getting even more QM damage
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>>550593421
>The only REAL change is that Tanks actually have a purpose now rather than being discount picks
haven't played in a week or two.
how are they changed now?
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>>550593421
yeah i actually think the patron getting defense with people in the pit is good, just full immunity for 2+ is too much, but again i'm probably overthinking it and it wont play out the way i imagine
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>>550593629
The patron in weakened status (in the pit) gets 50% immunity per ally in the pit, so with 2 defenders it's completely invulnerable.
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>>550593637
I had a game last night go to 67 minutes because neither team could actually end.
Mostly because they had an aim/wall/parry hacking smurf Vindicta, but still.
Every other game still ended before 40.
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>>550592869
this, but it scales inversely
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>>550593637
they're making the effect too strong at first so people know it exists and then tuning it down after.
because morons are going to need to get used to it or they'll throw by trying to shoot a patron down with high damage resistance instead of just killing the people on it.
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How it feels being an honest mina chad in a world filled with people who only play heroes to win
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>>550597197
>honest
>mina
>chad
Pick 1
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Seven status in this new meta?
I suspect he's really good on ult/ball for base fights.
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>>550597409
Pretty good
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>>550597793
>all the S-tiers are great at base fights
nooticing
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>>550519952
>>550519559
>>550529729
I prefer whatever ambient reverb and tone of voice the old amber hand had, circa May 2024. Same voice actor but more intimidating.
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>>550597793
>warden not S tier
fake and gay
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>>550539442
lash is the top hero of the 10% well written characters in this game. Most of the dialogue sucks. I think it's because he says funny shit instead of pretending he's on an HBO drama
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>people are FORCED to fight in Victor's stank and Seven's storm now
Oh...
Oh god...
OH GOD, YES, YESSSSSS!
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The changes to Patron aren't that impactful. I don't know how most people are getting worked up over it. It applies to edge case scenarios where a team could kill the Patron instead of winning a teamfight first, but that's extremely rare already. Most of the time, when a team gets to the Patron finally, it's because they already auto-win teamfights from advantage.

>but billy/warden

Sorry, just haven't really felt any squeeze from a losing team suddenly coming back because of warden base defense, nor has a billy/warden saved my team when losing
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>>550599259
I’ve had many games where 2 teammates are left and the 3 man enemy just walks into patron and shoots it while ignoring them
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>>550599259
>but that's extremely rare already
It's really not. If you have somewhat of a lead or rejuv you are often very capable of finishing off a patron that you've just downed, but not always capable of beating the respawning forces in their own base.

I had regularly won games because I said "just jump in the pit and shoot the patron, ignore the enemy" as if we tried to wipe them we'd simply die but we just have the stats to take out their patron before they kill us
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>>550597387
this implies chads only play dishonest characters
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>>550597387
>mina hater
>soul
pick one little chud
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>>550599259
Its not about the vast majority of unwinnable stomp games, its about the few close games where you can actually make a diff, the new patron is making that diff
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To expound upon that point, you should always itemize/strategize for the close games instead of win more style stuff like glass cannon/tc. You will never lose a game because you didnt go glass cannon, worst case is you win slightly slower
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>>550601069
disagree
sometimes defensive items don’t get value and someone escapes with 100 hp that you would have otherwise dealt
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>>550601358
You are free to disagree but when you lose to me with a tied scoreboard you'll know why. The close ones are the ones that matter

it wasnt really about defensives specifically moreso greed. Technically you could be really greedy buying only defensives
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>>550566553
>piss off cheaters and make their lives miserable
Their lives are usually miserable by default to justify buying hacks for videogames, and every single route towards trying to fuck with them brings joy instead since it’s a reaction and a win they crave more than anything.
Don’t openly talk about them in game chat, just report and play around them
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>be victor
>slow as sin
>waddle my fat ass into the middle of the teamfight with E active
>E-shift
billy stands around me waiting for me to come out to fight me, loses 80% of his hp, dies to a stiff breeze
>win game
why does victor's E work during e-shift lmao
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>>550603032
>nerf E Shift into the ground
>still BiS on Viccy
Why did they do it?
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>>550603032
It works during cube too
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>>550599794
They do because they don't care what you think
ok maybe #notallchads
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>>550593637
It’s been a mixed blessing since the mega creeps + kills end up dropping so many souls it usually ends up evening out the numbers but at the same time unless both sides are nearly 1:1 progress wise you can end up where one team can’t push for shit since their creeps aren’t strong enough to push at all and none of your team can leave since the enemy team just comes back fast enough to do another attack, had a long ass turtle tug of war like that yesterday and ended up stretching out the match another 15 minutes until the entire enemy team just bought Alchemical Fire and Curse, flooded the entire Patron area, cursed anyone coming out to defend


It was really fun honestly
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>kelvin has a 37.7% WR in Eternus
can someone who has that rank explain this?
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I'm so sick of every "esports" match being the top 16 heroes over and over again.
Once the new 6 heroes drop it would be more interesting if after heroes are played they are locked out for the rest of the series (if BO3; idk about BO5).
That would be more interesting to watch and it would make drafting even more important as you wouldn't want to blow your load on the first match.
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>>550604418
Dome has Dynamo-tier timing now, but is worse in every way, and he has no damage.
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>>550604418
>lock yourself + enemies in a bubble
>when the most scary heroes primarily fuck you up at close range
It’s not rocket science
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https://x.com/ControversieX2/status/2001606599941689696
uh dlg bros that's us on the second pic
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haven't played in over a year, do you not need to last hit the creeps anymore?
also feels like they changed something about denying, is there some delay for the enemy now regarding the orbs?
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>>550605562
first pic*
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>>550604513
I know literally nothing about League but isn't league e-sports like this? Once they pick a hero its gone out of rotation and they have to pick off-meta shit that is less and less OP.
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>>550606063
you have a 100ms advantage on confirming, so if you have timing down you can never get denied
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>>550606120
Whoever came up with the speech bubbles making it seem like everyone's speaking in character was a genius
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>>550604418
bunch of retarded carry players playing him for the ornament, stealing farm, building damage and generally being a useless piece of shit



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