Previous Chapter: >>550001023>Play Poppy Playtimehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1721470/Poppy_Playtime/>Official Twitter (MOB)https://twitter.com/mobgamesstudios?lang=en>>Show Bibles<<>Playtime Adventureshttps://archiveofourown.org/works/58801258/chapters/149853037>Smiling Critters: Friends Forever!https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QVnGUBQ89bygs0Ox7geW15WbNSw_kSp83MXwv0B-Zig/edit>Ep.1https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2T7-NSknjOxmuMT13_1qC0B5a2EMmw4Y0v310iIksk/edit>Ep.2https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uo1jXVhF0GCIIqYtn8VwLcdsUc5J_OCBsYKreVNqoN4/edit>Let's Hop to the Moon!https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H2aOqEnG8xAx4go_NGIzP3WhzqGI71mqeLwO1zqeiS4/edit
Tell me now, was there ever an Ollie, or was the Prototype always Ollie?
>>550513045Given that it's the only voice that isn't just a recording, I think the Prototype started out as a kid called Ollie. Though it's kind of weird then that the Prototype is supposed to be this skilled inventor.
>>550515484I've said it for a while but he was probably adopted by Elliot Ludwig, who taught him everything he knows and instilled what would become his fascination with Poppy.Alternatively he could be mimicking Ludwig, since this screen from the Ch5 teaser trailer is most certainly about 1006. Elliot could've made him, then 1006 would observe or assimilate him and gain his knowledge like he's implied to have done to Mommy and CatNap.
>>550526583>My sister'd
>>550530427Shortening of "my sister would"
>>550530494Who's the sister in this case? Poppy? I feel like CatNap would consider her a "sister" at least in a religious sense.
>>550531338It's Mommy Long Legs, actually.
>>550531464Funny, I've had a headcanon for a minute that Marie's fatal nightmare wasn't the result of an attack, CatNap just happened to recognize her and accidentally dosed her with an excessive amount of smoke.
>>550538416Give this Mommy a kiss on the forehead
>>550513045The Prototype was definitely always Ollie.
>>550533829Marie sees Nightmare CatNap, which as far as we know is only witnessed if you intake a large volume of gas at point blank from CatNap. CatNap, however, never attacks children and even goes out of his way to prevent others like Delight from attacking children. Added together it means he got extremely close to Marie, close enough to give her a hefty dose of red smoke, but did so either accidentally or in an attempt to try and talk to her.
Big news will happen tomorrow.
>>550552185I don't think we're getting another Experiment 1202 trailer, unless they wanna be based and drop another analog horror clip like they used to
I've got friends in Poppy Places where the Doey drowns and the Huggy chases
>>550556002My employees away, but I'll be OKYeah I'm not big on Mommy's gracesThink I'll slip on down to Safe HavenOh I've got friends, in Poppy Places
It'll never not be cruel that of all people, Leith is the only one confirmed to have escaped the Hour of Joy
>>550565421>confirmedIs it actually?
>>550565463He's the one who organized Project Playtime to recover assets after the Hour of Joy destroyed everything and made it impossible to safely enter the factory.I guess you could also say PW and maybe some unknows are still alive but Leith is the only one we know of who matters.
>>550565771And how do we know that Project Playtime is post-HoJ and not about the Theater Incident?
>>550565910The monsters are explictely stated to be working for The Prototype and I doubt in their long list of greivances with Sawyer and the BBI, the Heads would fail to mention the numerous times Mommy and Boxy just left their posts and went out to kill random specialists on the factory floor.
>>550565463Yes - he's the one giving the reclamation specialists their standing orders in Project Playtime. He clearly stopped sending them at some point prior to the main game though, so who fucking knows what he's up to now.
>>550566484>>550571917Anons, just think for a second. Why would Mob add this event into the lore that specifically took place in one of Project Playtime's maps, involves Resource Extraction Specialists being sent in (and many being killed by the experiments), and even has Boxy Boo confirmed as one of the experiments involved in the incident if not to clarify Project Playtime's placement in the timeline?I can't help but feel like "Project Playtime is post-HoJ" is yet another thing that the fandom gaslit itself into believing was confirmed canon, just like the "Elliot Ludwig is the Prototype" theory.
>>550573494>I can't help but feel like "Project Playtime is post-HoJ" is yet another thing that the fandom gaslit itselfAnon, don't be fucking stupid. It literally can't be anywhere else in the timeline because 1) it would not make sense for it to take place BEFORE the HoJ because, and say it with me now, THE FACILITIES ARE EXPLICITLY FUCKING ABANDONED in Project Playtime and Leith has no cause to steal from his OWN facilities if they were still operational, and 2) it can't be taking place at any other point because the Theater Incident was explicitly a PUBLIC event where 66 visitors died and where Sawyer got blackbagged and turned into a BB himself for fucking up so hard. The Specialists associated with the Incident were only there as far as we know to secure the BBs again - NOT to extract data and resources for the company like in Project and the Prototype had zero involvement in that incident, unlike PJTP where it is actively telling the BBs to murder any Extraction Specialist who enters without hesitation.
>>550575604Ok fuck dudeIf you're gonna get so mad about this then I won't talk about it anymore.
>>550586701>Kissy without eyelashes
>>550586783People only really remembered to give her eyelashes when she actually started to appear in-game
Still amazes me that this series is already 4 years old
>>550575790I wasn't trying to be mad - it's just that I've seen similar sentiment expressed to try and push the idea that Project Playtime and the HoJ aren't connected or that Leith died with everybody else when the timelines simply don't match up. It gets exhausting pointing out that the very first thing we're told by the game is the facilities have long since been abandoned and the Specialists are only there to recover data Leith thinks is important.
>>550589106In that time someone on the development team died, rip Molly
What if Project Playtime isn't canon.
>>550607740We have outside sources confirming the canonicity of Boxy Boo, all 4 maps, Port-A-Lounges, both tapes, the BBI and even features that were removed like the Huggy Pits.This page from the Orientation Notebook outright confirms that it takes place after the HoJ, the Theater Incident didn't scatter toy parts across the factory now did it result in the entire factory becoming unsafe to maneuver through.
>>550610284Further, note that PW uses past tense when referring to his time in The Labs
Huggy was released in 1984So his 10th anniversary is in 1994Given he is so successful he obviously gets new commercials and a decennial commercial would be perfect marketing for the company1994 will also mark 5 years since Elliot Ludwig diedWhat if for the Chapter's opening commercial they do a special Huggy commercial, that segue into a remembrance for Elliot Ludwig, talking about what he did and where the company plans on going, also showing glimpses of Lily and the Prototype?
Project Playtime took place before everything in Poppy Playtime, including the founding of Playtime Co.
>>550571917>He clearly stopped sending them at some point prior to the main game thoughAssuming Boxy Boo is actually dead as a result of the Toy War, that would mean PjPt takes place between late 1995 and 1997.>so who fucking knows what he's up to nowProbably scheming or using what he still has to start a new venture. As far as we know he is the sole legal owner of all of Playtime Co. and its catalogue of IP now.
>>550632343Given Leith specifically had Sawyer made into a BB because of the Theater Incident, I really hope he learnt his lesson about turning kids into monstrous homunculi for cheap child labor/immortality. Surely he won't fuck around and find out again, right?
>>550633894Realistically could he? Like it only worked the first time before Playtime Co was a successful company and Ludwig decided to have an orphanage built within its walls. Even if Playtime Co has other factories, the main one shutting down is going to be a huge hit. And the devs still haven't answered that the result of everyone going missing after the Hour of Joy was.
>>550634469>Even if Playtime Co has other factoriesIn all material, the factory in Michigan is always referred to as *the* Playtime Co. factory.>And the devs still haven't answered that the result of everyone going missing after the Hour of Joy was.All we know is that, from the old Steam page, the military surrounded the building and prevented the Player from entering work the next day, but left soon after and the factory became an urban legend. That description has been gone for a while so take that with a grain of salt.>>550633894You overestimate his self-restraint and situational intelligence.
>>550610284I thought the Orientation Notebook stickies were added before the HoJ.>>550610581>past tense"Make" is present tense. If it was past tense, it would be "made"
Explain this /ppg/ theorists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1KGEFwk2uw'ampage
>>550653230I really don't see Huggy not becoming friendly. Not an ally, he still doesn't like the Player, but he would discover that Kissy is friends with them and would in turn tolerate the Player for Kissy.I don't think they'd bring him back just so they could kill him off in Chapter 5. And he's the face of the franchise, he's in Fortnite, they need him to be around for the sequel.
>>550571917He is now the CEO of a tire company in Ohio that never likes to talk about his time working for Playtime. He got a pretty nice golden parachute settlement of $220 million from Playtime in the event of act of employee uprising and was semi retired for about 6 years. Jimmy Roth got a similar settlement and now works as a CFO of a software company in Colorado. Where he lives in a nice mountain home south of Denver.
>>550565421>>550571917I think it's interesting how a company with a revolving door of employees, and loads of mixed reviews like Mob continues to make games that are based around comically evil corrupt money grubbing executives torturing and killing their own employees, and works on horrible illegal human experimentation.
>>550657368We've been making this joke since the Coaster controversy. It's funny and sad to look at the photos and videos from the first year or two and realize how many people simply don't work there anymore because of mismanagement.
>>550658042What is the coaster controversy?
>>550658203>2018>Underage Minecraft animator named Ekrcoaster starts working with EnchantedMob (Zach & Seth Belanger) to make Minecraft Bendy and Fnaf videos>They treat him like shit and overwork him>Coaster leaves to post animations on his own>EnchantedMob creates a new channel called AnimationSins, parody of CinemaSins, with the sole purpose of shitting on his work>Bullies Coaster off the internet for a bit>Coaster then wants to make a horror game called Venge set in a toy factory>(Allegedly) EnchantedMob, now formed into Mob Games, steals his story ideas and uses them for their first game, Poppy Playtime
>>550658784>>They treat him like shit and overwork him>>Coaster leaves to post animations on his ownThis seems pretty consistent with majority of the Glassdoor reviews. They all talk about overworked crunch time and abuse from executives until they quit.
>>550642260It's a clone of Ludwig!
>>550653230
This man has more dialogue, notes, and appearances across the franchise than anyone else.You'd think he was the main fucking villain or the game was named Sawyer's Secret or something.
>>550670446Okay but this is still their most kino trailer to datehttps://youtu.be/DEu8qH2_8IU?si=gokNVRXE2uX7Eugx
>>550670446He is sort of the actual mastermind behind everything happening at Playtime. He really should have been the main reason the Hour of Joy happened and the final boss.
>>550672691Funny how that worked out since apparently he wasn't even a character until they started writing the story for Project. It really feels like Sawyer just willed himself into the story and made it about him.
>>550670446He's basically the entire cause of the plot, to be fair.
>>550658784Funny thing is, Venge is apparently incredibly good and is very blatantly distinctly its own thing (it's hard to describe, but it has more of a cosmic horror-y vibe compared to the semi-mundane story of corporate overreach and greed Poppy is framed by). So I'm not sure if Mob stealing his ideas forced him to change the narrative he was presenting or if Mob instead altered elements of Venge to make it fit what they wanted to do.
https://x.com/PoppyPlaytimeJP/status/2001943154132730243
https://youtu.be/59fzaZwsIJk?t=235https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwh-9gpaBZE>poppytubers are finally reaching the conclusion we've already theorized for many monthsBetter late than never.
>>550706359>Still placing Poppy's creation before 1006So close. Maybe some of them take theory suggestions or submissions. I could just send some partners the documents confirming Poppy is 1007.
Less than a week away from the Christmas art
Will Hello Neighbor 3 be good?
>>550734871It'll have potential but fall short of expectations like usual.
https://x.com/mobgamesstudios/status/2002076464133619991New post! There are a lot of secrets if you watch for long enough.
>>55073717312:05
>>550737173This looks like Lily's room
>>550737537He's so fugly
>>550737173Any idea what that device under the tree is?
>>550738646Looks like a speaker and a hoverboard
>>550737173Bubba :(
>>550737173On the table you can see what looks like a toy magic wand or microphone with a star as the head
The video is called Yule LogA Yule Log is a kind of Christmas cake particularly popular in Western Europe. Since this video looks to be filmed inside Lily's room that could be a hint about her origin.
>>550706359Took them way too fucking long.
>>550737173>star device as the christmas tree starGlad they didn't miss that opportunity
>>550766207Oh yeah and it lights up with a face at 40 minutes
>>550766207>>550766374Was about to tell him
>>550737537Is this the same experiment we've been seeing for the last 2 teasers? He looks extremely large compared to the guy in the vent.
>>550710691It's also funny how they don't catch on to the fact that Poppy (and Ollie by extension) are more likely adopted, rather than Elliot's biological children. I don't think he gets with another woman lol, adopted kids fits the story better thematically
>>550766970Hey you never know. With all the money and fame he had he could've had an army of bastards.
Every orphan is actually one of Ludwig's many bastard children
https://x.com/shopculturefly/status/2002116735739310459
>>550769828The decaying corpse of the sc fandom will appreciate this
>>550753282Lily being Stella looks stronger and stronger by the day
At 8:04 you can hear audio of two women talkingAt 24:44 you can hear Lily singing Poppy's Lullaby
>>550772341Then why doesn't Lily have her iconic accent?
>>550772838Of all the experiments that speak, only Sawyer still has his original voice. The others we never heard before but can confidently say didn't sound like they do now when they were still children.
>>550773371I don't mean the voice itself. She can have a different voice while still having an accent. If someone swapped out your vocal cords one day, you'd still have the same manner of speech with your new voice.
>>550779981
>people are getting the theoryverse merch>the neck message just says "smile, everyday!!!"Why did the video advertisement make it seem like it was gonna be some secret lore-teasing message, what a fucking letdown
>>550792824>The most important lore from all of this might've been from the ad showing that Jeremy is Huggy
Oh shit apparently the flowers on that one pumpkin from the Halloween art (the one next to the star pumpkin) are forget-me-nots.>also called "scorpion grasses">people kept saying Lily's braid looks like a scorpion tail
>>550794452That's fun, but how do you think she'll use it?I wanna see maybe her punching holes in walls with the braid or tossing the Player around like a ragdoll.If this is also something >>550752203 then Lily is really shaping up to have a really interesting toy and moveset.
>We still don't know what the name on the slide with the letters on the ground is>Chances are the devs don't either
>>550795512>tossing the Player around like a ragdollI can easily imagine this happening.
>>550799001It was a pun on Bohemian Grove.
What if the Player is the protagonist of all the ARGs? Like since the HoJ he's been desperately searching for answers and over the decade he started to uncover the truth of everything that happened.
>>550772731That's not two women speaking, that's the Poppy cutout speaking>Mommy? Daddy? Are you there?
Y'know we've only seen like two of the Wrongsides in all of the promo material so far, what are the chances some of those names are actually to troll people who were looking at trademark leaks?
>>550807449>literally throwing away money to troll the fans
>>550807764If I had money and power I would do the same.The logic is simple, they don't want a repeat of Chapter 4's leaks which derailed the Chapter's marketing, so they need to directly attack the source of the leaks. That's why the names got increasingly shittier because they aren't serious. Here's what I think:>Chum Chompkins - White Voodoo Doll>Glowby - Star Device>Giblet - 1202/Unknown Freak Doll>Wrongside Outimals - Chum & GibletThe others don't exist.
>>550809093>Chum Chompkins - White Voodoo DollThat's gotta be one of the least fitting names for it
>>550737537>>550737962I genuinely have to wonder how this toy line is meant to appeal to anyone in-universe.
>>550832458Maybe they've been stitched back together? At least from what we've seen with this guy his face is badly fucked up, he's got weird spikes coming out of his head and his arms look uneven.
Come along down with me...
Got my stockings out
>>550769312He didn't seem like the kind of man who'd just fuck chicks and abandon any bastards he sired.
Spencer put a star in his Discord status
>>550868369He did a good job at work today so he got a star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE6Wc1uume8New 'ericho
>>550870236Every so often you can hear a bit of MatPat leaking through his voice
>>550871252The theoryghost needs a new host and none of the people making Game Theory currently are suitable.
https://youtu.be/HvhXadMQ0yI?si=_dbWRbdYRyYwjU_h
Any expectations for the Christmas art?Could we get a new trailer before the end of the year?
>>550888203I still like that one anon's Doey mall Santa idea. I don't know what I'm actually expecting, though. I just hope it's actually worthwhile.
>>550888203I mean we could also get New Years count down art like last year too
>>550870236>killing everyone was the right thing to do all along, actuallyI'll be a bit disappointed if the story goes in this direction
>>550888203Another part of the Prototype will be shown.
>>550903941That or he'll be Santa this time around, lurking in the shadows
>>550888203Prototype face reveal.
>>550905381*penis reveal
Are there any plans of spin-off games? I really want them to give bron something to do.How many new villains/mascots are in chapter 5?
>>550922141Poppy Worktime.
>>550922141>Are there any plans of spin-off games?We know of two. One was called Poppy Playpark, the other is Smiling Critters Survivors. They've been hiring for retro artists and recently merch has featured pixel art versions of characters. Which game this is for we don't know, the recent Theoryverse drop that revealed nothing points towards SCS, however rumors point to that game getting shitcanned.>I really want them to give bron something to doMe too anon, maybe this Chapter will be his time, maybe. I feel like it isn't a stretch for him to appear.>How many new villains/mascots are in chapter 5?We're so far got Lily Lovebraids, white doll shithead, ugly doll shithead, and a star device. There are like 13 new names but we haven't seen anyone else actually appear in promo material.
>>550917858Pseudo-humanized Catnap is cursed.
>>550925602His arms are all fucked up
https://youtu.be/Hnx3-C5zSRY?si=5VM4-PH-Mj8wA4Ac
>Lily gets her own room with custom decorations, amenities, and judging by the door can leave whenever she wants>Everyone else cycles between sleeping on the floor or in a cell
What if Lilly is Stella
>>550968439That's looking increasingly likely. All the star motifs were the first giveaway, but really why else is she given such special treatment compared to the others?
>>550972269>Be one of the surgeons who has to actually get down and dirty with making the sausage>Get turned into a Bron and sent to be mauled by the other toys>Be the bitch who speaks over the intercom at Playcare and handles expecting parents>Gets turned into a humanoid with her own room and everythingALWAYS poop on company time, lads.
>>550922141>Bron was meant to get a section in 1 but they didn't have the money>Bron was meant to get a section in 2 but it didn't fit anywhere + they wanted new toys>Bron was meant to get a section in 3 where the Player had a nightmare in the toy store involving them driving away from a giant Bron in a semi, but it was deemed too goofy>Bron was meant to get a section in 4 where he free roamed but they wanted a new toy
>>550974756Bronophiles are in a constant shamble.
>>550972713I mean she is a Head, theoretically on par with Leith Pierre and Eddie. It's not much of a stretch to suggest she designed the character and experiment herself.
What do the events in Routine imply for Poppy moving forward?
>>550991059Now you're just making games up
>>550991059Speak english!
Did Kissy write the letter?>Poppy and DogDay have been locked up since 1997>Doey upon encountering the Player says "I was told to expect you" so he didn't send it>The Safe Haven toys hate Poppy now so wouldn't instruct the Player to find her>Kissy does like Poppy and sticks with her whenever possible>Kissy is said to love drawing>Kissy is immediately friendly with the Player once encountered>The only way in and out of the factory goes past Huggy, escape is impossible unless he happens to like you>Sawyer and maybe 1006 knew about the letter, you'd think then it would be stopped but see the line above, Huggy wouldn't want any harm to come to Kissy regardless of the reason
>>550968439>>550972269I don't really want this to happen
>>550998489
>>550991059Moon schizos are going to go wild.
>>550996390Could also be why Huggy in particular, for seemingly no reason, innitially helped the Player explore. Maybe he knew who invited him and didn't want to attack because it would upset Kissy, at least until he was ordered by the Prototype to attack.
>>550792824I wonder if the Lily shirt will have something different, since it's the only one to not feature Smiling Critters.
Here it was discovered that the flower pumpkin is actually a scorpion grass. Gets me wondering if that cluster of pumpkins relates to Lily specifically. Right next to that flower is a pumpkin with a kookie smile and a missing eyeball. Since they haven't actually shown her face, something must be up with it, so maybe she's badly disfigured and now looks a bit like that?
>>551028824>Right next to that flower is a pumpkin with a kookie smile and a missing eyeball.No, that's next to the pumpkin with the poppy flower on it.The forget-me-nots pumpkin is next to the star device pumpkin.
>>551028824>>551029397 (me)Adding to this, the wallpaper of Lily's room has a pattern that alternates between diamond shapes and what looks to be an eye. I think this is a more likely hint to her face than the pumpkin. If the pumpkin is supposed to be a character hint, it could be the Prototype instead given that it's next to the poppy.
>>551029397>>551030348Ah my bad.Tbh I was hoping it's the Prototype because it fits him perfectly.As for Lily, then maybe there is still something to be drawn from her face? I don't want to run out and say she's a cyclops, that just doesn't seem right, but there is something off about her eyes.
>>551030672>but there is something off about her eyes.My money's on FNAF animatronic eye sockets. The bold top outline reaches too far down for it to be stylized upper eyelashes in my opinion.
I've got friends in Poppy placesWhere the Boxies boo and the Wuggies chasesIt's great to be a toyduring the hour of joyI'm not big on a critter nightmareGonna head on down to the PlaycareI've got friendsIn Poppy places
I really what white button-eyed dude's dealio is.I feel like everyone is really overlooking him. After the star he was the first character we saw. They treat him like a secret still, they focus more on the other guy and Lily while he's still relegated to background cameos. Not to mention he's old, he was in 2's game files. I feel like that last point alone suggests that he is very important in some way.
