fecal typhoon edition[PoE 1]>Keepers of the Farthttps://www.pathofexile.com/keepers>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/e1ZBac7J[PoE2]>Pooids Infohttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212>Disciple of Allah Ascendancyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8EC1aQlhdI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]previous map>>550522249
>he is a jingakh
>I'm a jingakh
are there any 1-2 button builds this league at all?
>>550543773>Who is leftThey will have to appeal to the gooners and get DSLily, Velyna and whatever the PoE 1 chick who made the delve videos name is and have all 3 on a interview led by Tyty.
Your appointment to doomGOD should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with /poeg/>I take it he was agreeable?'He didn't really have a choice>Has he been doompilled?Oh, yes, most certainly. When I mentioned that we could put him on the priority list for 3.28, he was so willing it was almost pathetic.">This big shit -- the rioting is intensifying to the point where we may not be able to contain it." Why contain it? Let it spill over into the forums and reddit, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they'll beg BFR to save them.
Jonathan worked hard on this league improvements, you better thank him for it
>>550543556keepers endgame is bleak, theres no other way to put it
>>550543936la is still pretty braindead
>>550543770DOG SHIT OF EXILE 1DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2GOD SHIT OF TALKITIVE TRI
>mfw poop2 and Jonatroon start yapping
>>550543936every build is minimum 4 buttons in poo2
>>550543536he was right to axe harvest, it was degenerateharvest babies didn't even use harvest for crafting they burned atoll maps all day long searching for the harvest spawn, some were even making new accounts to do the oshabi trickthen they scoured the plots for crafts such as augments and remove/add'sthen they sold those crafts on tftthey didn't craft, it was a degenerate mechanic that needed to be toned down
>>550543936you can do a one button ice djinn build.
the tub runneth over
I'm having a blast
THISPATCHISDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEDWHY PLAY? WHAT'S THE POINT?
current conditions in the arpg genre strongly resemble the post-d3 conditions that gave rise to the upstart indie game "path of exile"
>>550543770WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE WE GOT FUN AND GAMESWE GOT EVERYTHING YOU WANT, HONEYPOE2 HAS NO GAMES
Nah dude Keepers is an active detriment to the game at the moment. Those fucking walls from nu-breach shit up every map and I hate it.
METH WON.TRI WON.BFR LOST.JONATROON LOST.
There is nothing left. Everyone lost. Jonathan? The bell tolls for thee.
tomorrow's patch doesn't seem like enough to make this league mechanic playable
>>550544097It all comes down to poo
>>550544052Based, fuck harvest faggots
Tremble mortals and despair DOOM has come to this world.
I'm playing the D4 Season instead and watching the 0.4 trainwreck from the sidelines.
>>550544052>1% of terminally mazed retards do the same degenerate shit they always do>therefore chris was right to delete a feature that improved the game for 90% of players
the thing is, the game is 120gb, everyone who uninstalled isn't going to install it againwhy the fuck this stupid game takes 120gb is a mystery
>>550544181i still want an interview where mark explains why the fuck those walls are in the game how could they possibly think that was a good idea
>>550543770They're fucking nuts. There was a post about a buff to the current league. Here are all the buffs.After completing non-boss Fate of the Vaal encounters in maps, a Chest will now rise out of the center and drop some items. In the campaign, this will be a magic chest but in Endgame it can be Magic or Rare.https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3892453chest of shit
>the average poopTwoer 'enjoying' their game because they can't let POE1 win
>>550544349poo2 is savedyour response, doomchuds?
>>550544376Artosis was the original poop of excrement poster tbqh
NON ZERO CHANCE OF A MAGIC CHEST TODAY BOYSLOCK IN
>>550544349>Magic or Rarewhy give me blue and gold chests when the only reason I do Vaal content is for the big red chests.
>>550544376its artosis he is playing starcraft, but that game would make your average pooger go insane from how 'tedious' or 'boring' or 'slop' it is
>>550544283>>1% of terminally mazed retards do the same degenerate shit they always doI mean all the casuals were running Harvest, I wouldn't say it was a "terminally mazed retard" farm, it needed to be toned down
>>550544339MTX bro>>550544349kek. D4 did this and the players hated it.ffs jonathan don't you ever learn?
What was the jungroan chinese drama today?
Skipped harvest and all I read is that it was an item editor mechanic. Surely that's hyperbole. What was it really like?
>>550544376I've seen this posted for a while but never knew what game they were playing.
>>550544181the walls are irrelevant. the fact that they thought it would more fun than old breach to have to stand still and watch the map while shooting offscreen at the red lines instead of the classic rushing around murdering packs of thousands of breach mobs before it closes.. like wtf dude. breach was legit one of the best mechanics now it sucks
>>550544579>doesn't recognize Artosiswtf
>vtumor shit>expecting people to read your post
>>550544579starcraft
>>550544627I actually don't watch Twitch or Youtube to be honest.
>>550544627is that the game or the person lol
Poo 2? Horrendous stench
>>550544617the walls are not irrelevant if you have a decent character, you bump into them constantly and they slow you down and they stop your explosions from chaining its pure cancer
I thought Artosis was the guy that streams with a green camera?
>>550544816are you ignoring the breach and trying to run past it?
>>550544740He's been a well known commentator for pro eSports for so long, mainly focused on Starcraft and Starcraft 2.
What can Jonathan even do now besides ripping and retiring?
>>550544923nta but why the fuck would you ever click alith defense this late in the league
>>550545038poops out lots of scarabs
>>550544876That's AvoidingthePuddle
>>5505440345 buttons. wasd + skill button. most builds also use 3 more skills for various purposes, so 8 button piano play at all time. it's actually hilarious to me that ggg tricked people into piano play with wasd controls.
>>550545092Who?
G R I M
>>550544923depends on what map i am running. what difference does it make? you have to walk over the stupid circles to spawn monsters if you want to do the breach so you bump into the walls either way
Most of us sane people despise harvest babies because they kept forcing their narrative>harvest allowed us to experiment with builds>harvest allowed us to craft our own gearThen you realize that they didn't even craft, they just sold their buttons to their overlords
>>550545157dawn!
>>550545123The guy GGG bent over backwards for to get controller support up to his standards.
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Even Chomo Charlie realizes the checks aren't worth cashing on this shitty jeetslop game anymore LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
>>550545215WON
>us>sane>people
>>550545157Did you edit his face? He literally looks like a cartoon villain of the hebrew variety wtf...
>>550545005unironically just make the game he wants to make. poe 2 was always doomed. from every single interview jon's done: well if thats what the player wants. if that's what's expected. did you see no rest and how they got bad reviews on launch> that's terrifying?in his quest to create slop that appeals to everybody
litha defence is my favorite i can just afk in the middle
As much as people meme on "ideas guy" and "im a creative", you need someone with a clear vision (heh) and knows what they want and build towards it.Jonatroon just shits in a tub and wants MTX sales, he doesn't care about the game in the slightest and only wants to sell $500 glowing anime devil wings to retards.Poop 2 will never succeed because it's a soulless cashgrab made by a rich asshole autistic with no passion.
>>550545380Cant you just play ultimatum and make like 10000x the currency then
>>550545271It will win once the expansion releases (will probably come out before 0.5 LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA)
>>550544281I might jump in, i'm in maps now and i just don't see the point playin this garbo. how's the season mechanic?
>>550545038im not playing anymore i just meant when i was playing i did it idk>>550545180true i forgot that. i'm not saying the walls are good i just mean thats not what annoyed me about the league, it was the deleting of classic breach for a worse nu-version
>>550545469i was playing ssf i had to get juice and wombgifts
>one year since beta>8 years since they started making the game>it's still 10 years away from releaseWe Scam Citizen now.
>>550545590
>>550545552>hadBut by this point you're well into crafted gear now that the league is over....right?
I wanted to play D3 more since I got a taste of the previous season's mechanic and it was enjoyable (gems that gave uniques wacky modifiers and made new builds kinda)This D3 season's gimmikc is just 3 cube slots with no restrictions and every good build is just Ancient Ancients stacking 3 generic good weapons and it's so dull.Now I'm just back playing POE1
can cws chieftain do gruelling gauntlet?i made a cws glad but the clear is kinda shit and i dont want to farm the 2% drop rate poison dagger in ssf
>>550545706Play D1 then
Doom status?Comeback status?Over status?
>>550545684i just started recently
>>550545748Entirely depends on your gear so if you're asking this question, no
>>550545813if I wanted to move slowly and default attack my way through a game for 30 hours, I'd play Poop2
>>550545839>Doom status?Eternal>Comeback status?Inconceivable >Over status?Totally.
>Doom status?Maximum>Comeback status?D4 won>Over status?It's
>>550545092Wanna hear a joke?Forsen subsWanna hear a bigger joke?Aris subsKEKW
>>550545901define geari have a mageblood and i can farm a svalinn
>>550545839>Doom status?POO2>Comeback status?SOFT>Over status?HARD
Time to replay Avencast I guess
I see so many people dogging on EHG that “this patch is subpar” as if they expect EHG to have a decade+ of solid development and systems in place to make iterating content easy.I keep seeing comments like “well PoE has X” or “use PoE as a blueprint” and it’s so wild how they are blatantly ignoring how under developed poe2 is with the same dev time as EHG plus’s a decade of PoE 1 dev time.As of 1.03 poe2 will have:Less than half the planned classesLess than half the planned skillsLess than half the planned weaponsA barely functioning end gameAn almost non existent crafting systemBarely half of a campaignIncomplete character rigging (animation for items)What is being added in their 0.3 patch?1 actA couple skillsSome nodes on the passive treeYup. That’s it. Poe2 had a decade of developer experience and 5 years of dev time and is in a horrid state when you compare it to PoE1. Especially awful when you think that the end game of poe1 has been functionally unchanged for almost 2 years now. It took a full year to release “t17 mods in t16 maps.”I’m not shitting on PoE, I love PoE. Almost everyone agrees that poe2 needs more time to cook (like another 5 years). I’m just posting this to bring light to the fact that it’s wild to expect EHG to have the systems, architecture, and experience to release a massive expansion patch every few months when Poe proves that idea is unreasonable.
>>550545192My most treasured item in poe 1 is a perfectly rolled (now legacy) ventor's gamble that I made myself via harvest abuse before they "fixed" the method. I could probably RMT that thing for some serious dosh
>>550546042>i have a magebloodYou need a svalinn>i can farm a svalinnI'll notify the psych ward so they're ready.
>>550545157>it didn't even riseOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO JONATHAN DOO SOMETHINNGGGG AHAHAHAHAH
Bear needs inherit block chance
>>550545748the what dagger? and just verisium up bro there's no escaping ore and harby jail
Tencent will step in and demand Jonathan implement AI to improve their workflow and throughput.
>>550546123you really decided to shill your shitty game here out of all places? make a thread on /v/ retard
>>550546252
>this build sucks, I can't assemble the endgame trade-league version 2 weeks into SSF
Bear: 50% more global damage reductionWolf: 50% more skill speedWyvern: 50% more global damageFixed your game for you.
grok design me a path of exile league mechanic for patch 3.28
>>550546370no one is shilling poe2 here lil bwo
>>550546123I had to ask chat gpt to tell me what game you are talking about is cause I have no idea and it said its Last Epoch, no thanks I'd rather play path of turd 2 than Last Sleepoch
>>550545157looks like they're going to be rethinking the abandonware patch style pretty soon
>Owari status?Da
>>550546474Ok. I can do that. How do you feel about adding poop to the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn0rtQLiXhgoh thank fucking god there is a patch coming tomorrow for the league mechanic
>>550546209so its fine with svalinn? im not just asking for this league, idk if i feel like playing it that much more but ill most likely make a cws character early into the next leaguestart. im surprised by how many raw chaos, divines and random uniques ultimatum drops, its quite nice. i guess thats what its for. anyway, you can kinda target farm svalinn in ssf if you just put verisium on every atlas tree and use settlers map device whenever possible, which is good for bismuth anyway
>>550546509>vtumor doesnt know about last epochlmao
You can always spot the Poop 2rists because they have no idea when a post is clearly just Redditslop copypasta.
So what should I play instead?
>>550546628Where is 'og doom video?
im going back to poop 1 to play CWS gladiator some more :)
>>5505466943.27 SSF still booming as long as you just ignore rolo and that other retard as soon as you see them type anything
>>550546694Arc Raiders.
>>550546723gog is the final hopesissy.
Can they please just put POE 1 in maintenance mode and focus on POE 2.
Why aren't there any anime diablo clones?
>>550546650>so its fine with svalinn?Megablood with ruby, defiance, and svalinn is chief's entry point for sketchy ultimatums, assuming you're not ok with risking the reward
>>550546870Wait I changed my mind. POE 1 regards need their containment game so they don't beg for their shit in POE 2
>>550546663I know of the game but I couldn't tell from the glance what the post is talking about, I'm not really interested in other poe like games I only play poe1, in fact I never played any other poe like game and dont really plan to to be honest
>>550546414its 6 weeks into ssf im not complaining that festering resentment is hard to get, im just asking how chieftain compares to non-poison cws glad.
>>550546870This but reversed.>>550546938Holocure is D2 but better.
>>550546672imagine your game being so dead that you have to rely on reddit copypasta baiting to get any interaction at all
>>550546938the best i can do is anime warframe
>>550546938>he doesnt know
>>550546938Isn't Torchlight Infinite chinese anima ARPG?
>>550546650>you can kinda target farm svalinn in ssf if you just put verisium on every atlas tree and use settlers map device whenever possible
Reminder that this is the target audience for poe2
I wish there was an anime sloppa game that had better combat than the Dynasty Warriors shit that they all copy. To be fair all of those shovelware games still have better combat than Poopy 2 kek.
>>550547068>>550547021I don't want to play anime warframe.>>550547153I dunno it just looks like a generic mobile game.
>Melee is still unplayable garbage
>>550547000You should stop posting. I am not a LE shill but you are even worse.
>>550547312I'm still gonna stick to Poe1 though, I don't see myself playing last sleepoch or path of excrement 2, most of the community is on the same page as me
>>550547175>20 minute maps>bone chilling slow burn boss fightsThe Jonatroon Vision. No wonder Hrishi and all the other good devs ragequit the company when Chris left.
This doesn't look anime at all, looks like they copied league of legends.
>>550547279>I don't want to play anime warframe.neither did i till i tried it, its literally poe but with movement and it in 3rd person alongside a open world, its as close as you can get to what you asked for
>>550547470I refuse to believe some gachashit isn't the most cancerous thing in existence the moment you cross their psychological manipulation hour mark and everything becomes "SWIPE NOW OR NO MORE GAMEPLAY UNTIL STAMINA REGENERATES"
>>550547470Well I guess it's free at least
>>550547602>SWIPE NOW OR NO MORE GAMEPLAY UNTIL STAMINA REGENERATESSo it's just like Poe2?
some gimme a 15 spirit gem im going fucking nuts
But I quit gacha to play PoE, I ain't going back.
>>550547602ok some things to clear up1. dna is not gacha no stamina system2. you can earn all characters and weapons for free3. only paid thing is cosmetic mtx and its all pretty cheap4. only "gacha" is a skin for the main character during the patchanything else you want to know? its not a gacha >>55054762523rd its out on steam with 1.1 play it then
>>550547068what's that
PoE is basically a cosmetic gacha w/ minor QOL features (stash space, etc)
Alkaizer said Torchlight Infinite is the best PoE-like on the market and called it better than both PoE 1 and 2 until his chat bullied him into backing down.
lmao these nigggers are outsourcing to jeets 100%, all of these changes are posted at the end of NZ business day and you gonna tell me they will be coded at night?
I dont want to spend an hour doing my 4th trial and then still maybe fail it
>>550547927torchlight is good but its problem is that its pay 2 win >>550547838duet night abyss, fushu, bikini skin >>550547465yeah the aesthetics are pretty bad if you like anime imo
>>550547985Personally by Jonathan in fact.
I'll just say what we're all thinking: D4 S11 is better than PoE 2 0.4.
>>550546948>Megablood with ruby, defiance, and svalinni see, that is quite a lot. if only festering resentment wasnt so rare
>>550548083D4s up to 11 seasons?
>>550547175>i dont want vampire survivors in modern graphicswhy are dad gaymers so afraid of vampire survivors? why is it a bad thing? i mean poe1 was also kinda like vampire survivors before vampire survivors even came out, obviously im talking about modern poe not about ancient poe that boomers look through nostalgia glasses>i want to explore maps for 15-20 minuteswtf i never heard anyone say that>please stop advocating for small maps, faster movement i dont want this degenerate zoomer gameplayi also never heard anyone say this wtf does this guy even want? he wants every map to be an adventure like dark souls, zelda or some other bullshit?
>>550547159it's just like 50,000 maps on average. ssf players are terminally unemployed autists and have nothing but time.
>>550547985Jonathan has been screaming at everyone in the office for the past 6 hours demanding that we all fix it.Mark has a black eye and locked himself in the server room a few hours ago. The QA team is in tears. The development team have been quietly eating their curry while the artists are whispering in mandarin as soon as Jonathan turns his back.
>>550548139>wtf does this guy even want?he wants every map to feel like some distant memory he has of playing morrowind as a kid
so is this league worth playing or no?for context at launch i had shit loot on every char to endgamesecond legue i only got one char to act 2 cruel before getting boredlast league i barely got one char halfway through act 3just nothing even remotely interesting ever dropped. i liked playng witch the most, anything for me here?
>>550548313Lol, morrowind is peak zoom zoom ARPG if you use magic in any way.
i might go back and play poe1 for the challenge cosmetic i didnt earn it because i thought it looked like shit in poe1 anyone got keepers 36/40 challenge cosmetic images of how it looks in poe2? i might go RF and just earn it for the month with how bad the poe2 league mechanic is
>>550548313>distant memory he has of playing morrowind as a kidIn that case, he's BASED.
Was making the temple a juiced map the vision all along
>>550548315Kek no. Druid sucks ass and alva temple is Jonatroon's beta he programmed himself in 1 evening. It will still be unplayable with the upcoming patch because it needs at least another 3 months of dev time to fix.
>>550548365>>550548313Imagine if you will, a TES ARPG based around the Morrowind aesthetic.
>>550547175>>550548139why cant they just go play world of warcraft why did they have to come to our game...
>>550548262its a few k maps which actually isnt that much if you play the game instead of sitting in your hideout all day
>decided to pick up Diablo 4>had a ton of fun doing the campaign>make it to end game>game doesn't tell you shit>there's 600 different things I could do>no idea what the fuck to do with gear or where to farm it>any google search just brings up 60 videos from faggot content creators or 2 year old guides>lose all will to playAt least PoE end game is relatively straight forward.
>>550548373you gonna go back to playing poe1 because you want the cosmetics which looks good in poe2 but you wont play poe2 because of a league mechanic? makes sense to me. the choice of a related picture really says it all
>>550548497Actually let me rephrase thatA semi-juiced boss rush map>>550548509That's kinda just Sacred, I think.
I want an infinite waterways map from act 3 where I have to open 5,000 valves to complete the map and if I die I have to start over.
>>550548589i like both games both patches didnt hit for me whats hard to understand tranny?
>>550548536I don't even run "a few k maps" in a given normal league when getting 36 challenges and leveling to 98-100. you have to be genuinely autistic and play poe for 14+ hours a day every day all league to think svalinn hunting is no big deal.
>giga patch announced>doom losers go into overdriveYou're pathetic. The league is going to be amazing tomorrow and you'll have nothing left to whine about.
>>550548750rope yourself
can someone give me a qrd on the dad gamer term?
>>550548942I'll rope all over your supple estrogen filled body, faggot
>>550548905>giga patch announcedyou mean the patch that's just a bunch of bugfixes and changes nothing about the poor rewards from the league mechanic? i'm still not going to waste my time running temples after the patch, and since there's nothing else to do in the poe 2 endgame I'm just not going to come back at all.
Does Neverstink count as a doomer?
>>550548975Do you have a kid?If yes then you are a dad gamerIf no then you are not a dad gamerPretty simple, no? Or it could be new boomer/zoomer for redditards
>>550548975>I am too cool to be good at my hobbyThere.
>>550548975dad gamers are just chill niggas chillin the fuark out fr
I have like 20 divs, can I make a cool djinn build with that?
>>550549165He's a doomer pretending to be a hopesissy. He really wants Jonathan to keep indulging his filter nonsense, so he can't just go scorched earth Tri-style.
>>550549437no cap bro?
Alright it's been fun I'm going to do anything else with my time
>>550548975it's your standard>I'm bad at the game? well SORRY i actually have a LIFE outside of it lolcope that you've heard 100 times before
>>550549245How does having a kid prevents that?
>>550548975dadgamers are secondaries who have very little free time to game due to other responsibilities (usually, obviously, having to take care of children). they're generally seen as a nuisance because they FOMO hard over not being able to achieve as much as people who play more than them, and are very vocal about it, sometimes leading to devs ruining their own games in an attempt to appease this vocal minority.
>>550548570The gimmick this season is to temper/masterwork your items and then krangle them for a chance at a cool vaal result. It's not much but it's a helluva lot better than what they had every season prior to this. It's the biggest leap forward Diablo 4 has ever had but there's still no reason at all to progress your character past the 5 hour mark.
It is up and these numbers are truly great. Perhaps the greatest numbers you have ever seen.
>>550549504Does he deserve a place on the collage though
is titan quest 2 any good?
>>550549753>keepers stopped dropping as soon as 0.4 hitlmfao
>>550549779He's ugly and fat and a cunt so no
>>550549753post day 6
We need dad gamers to counter the cum-encrusted virgin incel "the game must take me 2,000 hours to get to endgame or it has no content" crowd.
>>550546563>abandonware patch styleThe fact that they've gotten away with it for so long is fucking criminal >Here's you pile of shit, onto the next pile, see you in 3 months!!
>>550549923kek for a second I thought this was Arcane Sanctuary
>>550549727>there's still no reason at all to progress your character past the 5 hour markThat's kinda the feeling I'm getting now? I just hit paragon level 40 and have been doing various things and aside from random 1 shots I can clear basically anything on the map with ease (at torment 1) and I've barely done shit to my gear. I find myself thinking "cool, I guess that's it".
>>550549893Now what?
>>550550125Post the percentage for day 6
>>550550006have you visited the pit?
>>550549171>>550549245>>550549437>>550549576>>550549621i think i understand it now, it doesnt mean an actual dad but its more of a term for ultra casuals with>toxic positivity>lots of entitlement>demand everything handed on a plate>dismiss any criticism of the game>extreme fomo
>retards in chat begging for carries>tell them to git good>100 people jump down my throatwhen did gayming get so fucking soft
Tub2 shill status?
PoE2 will not affect PoE1's development btw
>>550550179>the percentage118,652 out of 185,970 Fate of the Vaal for comparison
>>550550351Not meaning to defend 2 but its an early access game isn't it? makes sense that they would have bigger notes
>>550550378Post the percentage of day 6 from the percentage chart like you did for day 48 here >>550549753
>>550550351>What We're Working OnPath of Exile 2>What We're NOT Working OnPath of Exile 1
>>550550239Toxic positivity is such a gay fucking phrase, anyone that says it is either mad someone likes something or is calling them a shill its fucking retarded
>>550548889pipe down tradecel
>>550549923>seething dadgamer "argues with holes" after being called outevery time
>>550550495What about toxic negativity
>>550550495you pretty much exclusively see it from terminally online thirdies seething that their chimpouts aren't taken seriously
>>550550351left was after 2 weeks and right after 1 week btw and they didnt listen to of the complaints and actually added more walls to breach btw.
>>550550495I get that it confuses you because you're autistic and have great difficulty with context and judging other people's intentions, but the insincerity of "toxic positivity" is obvious to the rest of us, which is why we don't like it.
>>550550495i despise doomers in every community but there are definitely lots of toxic positivity individuals these days everywhere
add sockets to the atlas tree >:)
>>550550756Honestly surprised they haven't done it yet tbqhwymn
>>550550756cluster jewels for each mechanic
>>550550756that's just idols with extra steps
>>550550495"toxic positivity" means people who bully others for airing complaints, criticism, feedback etcit's a very real and very destructive type of person
>tfw got a flu and feel so shit that I can't even play
GGG are trying their best why don't you just get a life and let them cook
The uniques in PoE2 genuinely have a really cool vibe (and I like how they drop significantly less often... until you get like 100% IIR...) but are just so weak. They also almost all look awesome and have great art, though I do dislike how many of them just steal the flavor text from PoE1.
How do I get more spirit? All I've got is some from one quest and my scepter.
>>550551071You get 100 from the campaign, after that you mostly get it from amulet, body armor, scepter, etc.
Can I get some advice for my Disciple sorc, my damage is absolute shit and I keep getting mobbed. I was hoping to do something with cold-infused spark because frostbolt hits like a limp noodle and when I can get the infused sparks off they hit hard, but shit like Abyss and Rituals are super risky and if I get mobbed I don't have any hope of actually getting the infusions set up. I'm level 80 and dying frequently in t10sI know I should probably respec to Stormweaver or do a full build overhaul to get the djinns but I was really hoping to make cold disciple workHere's the pob, it's not quite right because pob2 doesn't support the offhand focus yethttps://poe2db.tw/pob/SwLKIs4Fzo>>550551071Amulet and Body Armour, if you're playing a minion build you can get it from Sceptres too
>>550551127I've never seen spirit on an amulet or armor before. Is that something that only starts showing up later? I just got to act 2. I thought I was doing fine but the bosses in act 2 are pushing my shit in. I don't feel like my skeletons are doing that much work.
>>550550495>>550550612>>550550625>>550550719>>550550729i experienced a lot of toxic positivity back when i was playing ffxiv, i was pretty positive about the game myself but some of these people were pretty hardcore when it came to their positivity and their doomers were also pretty funny
>>550550994my fucking meal has been in the oven so long that I can see smoke coming out of the kitchen
Let's just admit that the game is a monumental failure and move on to PoE 3
>>550551381why
Releasing a league with a lame duck end game with a rework-bait league mechanic was such an asinine idea. Why even bother playing the end game when we know this one is getting totally remade? It's not like playing PoE1 where it gets updated and changed. This shit is gonna be gone.
>>550551381This but PoE mobile
>>550543770>New patch tommorow, 2x reward buffs>DOOMERS BTFOA consistent bit of feedback we have received is that rewards for the temple are not high enough, particularly in the endgame. The rewards simply don’t scale enough to make temples worth doing currently.In order to address that, we are making a bunch of changes, the first of which is buffing the mods that rooms add to the temple.We are approximately doubling the values on existing modifiers applied to the temple at all room tiers.The Spymaster, Golem Works and Thaumaturge rooms apply bonuses to other specific room types in the temple.The Corruption Chamber room at Tier III now also adds a Corrupted Abomination to the Temple.The Spymaster room at Tier III now also adds an Unchained Beast to Temple.The Golem Works room at Tier III now also adds a Royal Sentinel to the Temple.The Generator room at Tier III now also adds a Royal Colossus to the Temple.The Sacrificial Chamber room at Tier III now also adds a High Priest to the Temple.The Thaumaturge room at Tier III now also adds a Quadrilla Sergeant to the Temple.The Alchemy Lab room at Tier III now also increases Gold Found.The Treasure Vault room now also adds 25% Rarity of Items dropped to the Temple.We also had some crafting benches for Exalting, Vaaling and Alchemy that didn’t allow you to take their craft as currency. We didn’t want you to be able to take these as currency until after the events at the end of Act 3, but this never got implemented. But now:After Act 3, Exalt, Vaal and Alchemy crafting benches will allow you to take their currency.
>>550551473>This shit is gonna be gone.hopesister...................
Lich or Infernalist for a minion build? What is the difference? Which one is better for leveling?
>>550551408Because it's been an entire year and they have no idea what they're doing or have progressed anything?
>>550551596you're late
>>550551221raging spirits + skeleton archers rape through the entire campaign
>>550551596every thread feels the same no matter the game although threads are significantly faster when its poe2s league>league releases>constant doomposting league is dead>what we're working on post>league is saved>doomposting continues>league dies for real or another what we're working post happens and league dies after that
>>550551762>>league is savedhaha, good one
Poop for this feel?
>>550551746>raging spiritsI don't see that skill, how do I get it?
ggg needs to start hiring redditors soon in order to save both games or at least they should start looking at upvoted posts in order ot have an idea what players want like we'd have 500k player leagues in both games a month in if they did that
Why'd he do it, bros?Why did he stab Jonathan in the back like that?
>>550551981spirit gem
>>550551981It's from a Spirit Gem in the elemental section.
>listening to the players ever
>>550552061game dies in 2 leagues
>>550552075Tri gets in closeTri makes you cozyTri drives in the knifeTri feasts
>listening to Jonathan ever
>>5505522810.1, home
>>550551207what is this crackhead shit
>>550552061in short reddit wants dopamine and harvest, i think most people want this to be honestit would be popular but die quickly, there won't be any new content added to push characters if reddit designs the game
add minor idols right nyow
>>550550921interestingly, both the "toxic positivity" and "toxic negativity" behaviors are feminine archetypes that come from women and males with low testosterone and high estrogen.
Bring back Crucible, ToTA and scourge to PoE1
>>550552061If reddit designed the game then trade would be dead since everyone would play ssf(redditors would add huge bonuses to ssf mode)
Thread has more players than the game
>>550552075Imagine trusting (((Tri)))
Poo2 is the first poo-esque game to push gamers to D4Nature is literally healing.
which skill is best for ruzhan djinn? Trap? I do wish ascension gave more points. 2 per trial is just not enough to experiment.
>>550552545>ToTAYes. That was my richest league in HC. I was the tattoo man and many a streamer patronized my shoppe.
>>550552665tri nooticed and is now /ourguy/
how to kill 2 games at the same time, a master class
building your character in poo1 was like building a magic deck. you've got infinite possibilities and infinite squared possible synergiesbuilding your character in poo2 is like playing monopoly. the game is only ever going to play out one way, and you're either going to end up with the good build or the dogshit build
>>550552774isnt this a good thing? the secondaries go to other games, poe2 dies and we are left with poe1
>you live in a timeline where Diablo4 wonnered
>>550553528It is.The more tworist leave poo2 for D4, the faster poo2 dies, the sooner Johnathon get kicked out of his chair.Then we can have poe1 in poe2 finally.
The breach walls are not irrelevant, why do people keep saying this?
Retards I'm assuming. They're fucking annoying and an eyesore.
>>550553528Poe 1 goes end of service, every poe 1 tranny commits suicide by cutting his balls with a kitchen knife screeching REEEEE and we're left with POE 2 and the thread. I'm just waiting, waiting to hear your when poe 1 is taken away from you. Keepers was the least played league yet, another Phrecia or something and it's dead. Sorry Act 5 and 6 are going to need that dev effort.
>>550553528poe2 doesn't die, it develops the same reputation that poe1 had years ago. it will be the serious game for serious gamers. don't like it? filtered. too grindy? gitgud. only have 8 hours a day to play? game isn't for fucking casuals.
>diablo 4 won>19k and mixed reviews vs PoE2's 91k and very positive reviewsAm i being baited here?
poe2 will become poe1 with a new campaign as it should have been in the first placeyou can look forward to the campaign being gutted and the atlas being replaced with a poe1 ripoff in 0.5 and that's just the start
>First league I came back for after playing launch>Its fucking terribleOh.... My bad..... I guess ill come back on 1.0 then...
>retarded retarding pooer thinks people play Diablo on fucking steamHoly retard.
>>550554727I'm not seeing it popping off on youtube either though nor in battle.net. I see more posts about the new banner in honkai star rail.
>>550554457The doomfaggots are a segment of 80iq retards like Zizaran who are too autistic and too old to learn a new game, they feel entitled to success without having to learn. they don't want to roll, they don't want to disenchant, they don't want to respec, they just wanna win because poe 1 was letting them win. Well tell you what, shitstain, Zizaran's wishlist patch was rolled back entirely. The game, the balance and the economy are finally back to the vision. Johnathan was clear this is a gamer's game, not a spreadsheet simulator. You will not be playing it by holding one button and counting divines. If you don't want to play and just wanna win, the game doesn't want you.Maybe they'll keep the standard league running for another couple years for you, who knows.
>>550554998>545My man Wooden Joseph is popping off!
GGG should be ashamed of themselves.PoE2 was setup to a be a winner. They had all this organic groundswell and hype. They dashed it across the floor with all of the early access release shit.They delayed and delayed, went to conferences with videos showing official dates, then had to walk dates back.They did nothing but confuse the general population about their game and when it was available, only to announce it was only for supporter pack paypiggies and early access.They apparently had 3 or so million people buying early access and trying to get in, only for it only to spike to about near 600k and immediately downward never to recover due to launch issues and greed.This is what Silksong sold through to players. A tiny as fuck indy game that charged more money than PoE2 to access, was made by LITERALLY 3 people and probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to make rather than what is probably hundreds of millions.Silksong has made more money than PoE2 has, for a handful team of people rather than 100's working round the clock.They did interview after interview about how melee was the focus, then shipped with mostly ranged/magic characters and none of the melee ones. They didn't improve on PoE1 at all in regards to character options which was a massive thing people were expecting/looking forward to with the sequel. Turns out Sorceress is literally just a witch skin etc. The most lazy route possible was taken.They even had MTX in the PoE2 launch packs that could not be used in PoE2. This is how monumentally fucking bad this company is at planning and doing things. They are making it up as they go clearly and are completely rudderless. What an absolute fucking failure of a game and what a botched execution. It should be studied how someone that had a sure thing lined up went and pissed it up the wall.
>>550552168>Lets make the mana reserving gems reserve a separate resource so that players don't walk around with 95% mana reserved and can't use any other skills>>Great idea Jonathon!>And then lets make all the other skills reserve spriit as wellThis shit defies belief.
>>550555164>fotm indie gamevs>live service game with a decade of content queued up
>>550555164>silksong>shitty 2d game that took one dude one evening to make>hyped up by the aging boomers with Super Mario nostalgiaPOE 2 is too big and too expensive to release when it's done. They worked on it for 6 years and only had it 30% ready. They needed the money and also needed the testing and player data. POE 1 was also a kickstarter game or something way back when they released just 2 acts with Vaal oversoul as the final boss and started from there.
Alright here's the D4 rundown for anyone confused/new:>PitsThis is D3 Greater Rifts basically. Blast stuff in a time limit and then kill a boss. Main mechanic for 'pushing' because it can scale to stupid levels of difficulty. Aside from flexing, the purpose is to level your paragon glyphs (slottables on the passive boards)>LairsTarget-farm bosses. They drop uniques and are the primary source of those. You need keys to get loot, which are obtained by doing all the other shit.>WhispersMap objectives that give you points. Once you get 10, you turn them in for one of 3 cache options, which has targeted gear. Gives Varshan lair keys.>Nightmare DungeonsAdds a reward and a negative effect to a dungeon. Decent source of crafting mats like Obducite. There's an escalating version where you do 3 in a row with stacking effects and then face off against Astaroth. Gives Beast in Ice lair keys.>World Bosses and LegionsGroup activities where you either beat up on a big dude or zoom through packs together with friens. Gives keys for Lord Zir lair>HelltidesA region of the open world gets juiced, go kill stuff there. There's a GTA wanted level that goes up and mob density scales with that until max and then goes boom and resets. Grab cinders to open chests. Also use hearts to start an encounter at an altar. Gives Grigore lair keys>Higher-tier LairsKill Varshan, Beast, Zir, and Grigore for Duriel and Andariel lair keys. During any lair fight, Little Belial can ambush you. Kill him for Big Belial lair keys>HordesWave-survival with choices each wave to modify things. At the end you can fight the Fell Council, and then spend aether you collected to get a choice of rewards>UndercityVoH DLC only. Kinda like the pit, but with custom rewards based on an offering at the start. VoH also has 2 exclusive lairs (Urivar and Dog Mephisto)>UbersThere's Uber Lilith which feels like Jonathan designed it, and Uber Lesser Evils this season which is kinda secret and idk look up a guide
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>datmodz, THE gamer dad, says he's having a blast on druid bearDoombros? Our response!?
>mogs poo2
>>550556015wasnt this nigger saying that the last expansion will go down in history?
>>550555164That's a good example actually as Silksong had a similar development hell type saga where no one was sure when we would see it again or when it would release, so it had this air of mystique built up.If Silksong said it's releasing in 6 months every time it was shown and then delayed 5 times like PoE2 it would've never got the 7+ mill it did. PoE2 really did screw up monumentally overexposing itself and giving people dates and promises.The 7 act game releasing next year is still fucking hilarious to me. When they announced that live all the GGG developers were probably hearing that news for the first time as well, LMAO. They just make this shit up.
>>550554378what is wrong with you? if you don't like poe 1 then don't play it
>>550556149it's the same people who keep saying that reaper of souls was good. Diablo will never good as long as they keep pandering to china.
DIABLO 4 (IV) REMASTERED
>>550556149well he did hype it up quite a bit
>>550556195>if you don't like poe 1 then don't play itNo I don't like the POE 1 faggots shitting up the threads. I want them to suffer personally. POE 1 is whatever a degenerate overgrown game that looks likeit was ok before it bloated. But the poe 1 doomfaggot trannies deserve to suffer for ruining the POE 2 conversation.Which is why the day POE 1 goes out of service i'm popping champagne and coming to this thread to drink your tears. The poe 1 doomfags will never be forgiven
What the actual fuck.There's a new class, two new ascendacies, 20+ new skills, 250 passive tree nodes, 30+ new supports, 11 new uniques, 9 new lineage supports, delirium changes, a new league atlas tree, a whole new league mechanic with new crafting options, new bosses, and a new pinnacle boss. Rebalance of countless uniques, rebalance of lineage gems, rebalance of 90 skills, rebalance and rework of almost all ascendancies.There is more content in this early access update than majority of other games get in 5 or more updates combined. The potentinal for new builds is insane.Sure, endgame isn't changing much, but I'd rather have them cook than get something unfinished.I will play the shit out of this. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>>550556984Doomdeities wonReply with melty
>all it took for normies to stop spamming "rue is a cat" like turbo retards under every forum post was a little bit of sexual controversyHuh... that easy?
>>550556984I do wish we still had ip counts. I only visit these threads a few times to ask questions but it does feel like it has the same few people every day. Even the least active gacha generals don't have this much schizos.
kraut waking up soon
>>550557059>Sure, endgame isn't changing much,They fixed many of the glaring issues(delirium) and changed how the waystones drop, the endgame is significantly better than before.
>>550556984You have mental illness my man.
>>550557127Funny, isn't it?Since poe2 and combining of the generals, schizos numbers sky rocketed.Am I noticing?
>>550557059The complainers are those who've played literally hundreds if not thousands of hours and are starving for completely new content. I'm a tourist who only played a few hundred hours on release; coming back now the game has improved drastically but people who've been playing the whole time might feel underwhelmed.
>>550557127most of them don't like either game, they have been itt dooming on the daily since the harvest manifesto.
>>550557059You know this dad gamer quit in Act 3
>>550557059But enough hopeposting
Well, if PoE2 allows so much freedom and creativity, surely you can tell us all about your unique build, right? You won't lie and hide behind sayings like "I don't want my build nerfed / stolen".
>>550557469how is basedmad related to poeg
just got bored playing poe1 when is the next in-game event
>>550557702retard
>>550557702most of us will play pohx phrecia league around christmas
>>550557469>Ashur wearing driving gloves when he's not even using a Direct Drive WheelKino.
Powered Zealots fucking suck you lied to me again
>>550557831>ashur>kinoRelax kraut
They should double the size of the Temple
>>550557985why
>>550545157Bleak times! It's looking grim for PoE and the game might not even see another dawn. If they come back with yet another lacklustre patch and a class nobody is looking forward to, it's game over until 1.0, which will only be a short beep on the lifeline.
>>550558060>he boughtOh no
>>550558060This may very well be the last time Path of Exile is mentioned in our epoch.
Poo 2 is so bad that the general is already dead and devolving into schizophrenic, stalker shit. It didn't have to be this way, Jonathan. You could've saved us all.
>>550558141Why did this retard hide his achievements? did you archive them?
Jonathan has made a game that the PoE community deserves. This is irrefutable.
>>550558283He could handle being bullied for not killing Maven or Sirus but the moment i pointed out he never 6 linked an item he got embarrassed, I already know his next reply. He will sprinkle in a couple of buzzwords as well
>have build issues>don't want to copy a streamer build>poeninja is a mess>pob 2 was barely functional even before the league>/poeg/ won't offer any adviceThe fuck do I do
>>550558279hasn't it been stalker shit for like half a decade now?
>>550556984Least mentally ill pootwoer
>>550558279tri mogs all stalker schizos in this general
I like to crash right before I kill a bossit's a good thing too because it happens all the time
>>550558649My first obsession is Caning and I stalked him in Harvest which was five and a half years ago so yes
>>550557702I love KanekoLumi poster and posting
>>550557127Next april fools need to just be enabling flags across all boards/poeg/ would be a riot
JONZARO... YOU TRAITOR... EUUURRAUUUUGH!!!
>>550558849Why?
>>550558827go fucking fuck yourself
>>550556984Why are 2D women so sexy
>>550558965Good, let out your rage here instead of being a retarded faggot in 1488
btw I do think too that PoE1 players ruin PoE2, the game and the community. PoE1 players should ((it's been a year now) accept that PoE2 is not PoE1.
is trading bugged? It's been 5 days since my last asych trade transaction
speaking of 1488 does it exist in poe2?
>>550559242>accept that PoE2 is not PoE1.whythey've done a great job at ruining the original vision of poe2 and will likely succeed in making poe2 a poe1 skinwalker by the release of 1.0 at the current rate
>>550552061>ggg needs to start hiring redditorslike more redditors> one of their developers, viper, was a poe reddit mod
>>550557598>surely you can tell us all about your unique build, right?Bonestorm ritualist with three pearl rings for the fuck off cast speed. >>550558747Discounting the initial hype where 90% came to see what's an ARPG and decided it's not for them the game is up from 0.2.
>no idea how to determine when it will let me place a room on the other side of one room or when it will just fucking dead end, or if there's a way to know>ah that's alright, most of those rooms will get erased next time i come in>they don'tACK!
How the heck do I search for specific stats on the marketplace? When I search for any type of lightning damage nothing shows up and I know it's there I can see the items if I clear it. I've tried every option and nothing shows up.
poop 2 report: my inventory is full of dogshitthis is jonathan's fault
>>550559242I think GGG should just release leagues for both games simultaneously. Fresh Poe 1 league works as a contamination chamber the best
>>550552061you're right, they should hire Tarke Cat.
>current base poe1 + phrecia + mercsthis would be considered one of the best leagues of all time, make it happen
>>550559469Its a down from 0.3 >discounting early access numbersYet pootwotrooners almost always defer to these big numbers to claim that their soulslop game have already more succesful that poo1 ever was.Mental illness bunch
1GAWDS really mindfucked Poo 2 eaters
Now Jongakh, I prove MYSELF!
>>550559759I think I see it.
>>550559671didn't that guy go six feet under because of his collection of diseases or whatever
>>550559474the temple actually needs a reset button. Right now it's complicated and takes too long to fumble around and figure it out with. Still better than betrayal, but it's the same kind of incomprehencible clusterfuck. I made a path to the architect but it doesn't open, I don't know what I need to kill him and reset the rooms, the game doesn't tell me and trial and error takes too much time. Maybe the temple rewards are actually busted, but nobody figured them out yet.
>1GAWDS really mindfucked Poo 2 eaters
>>550559856>Maybe the temple rewards are actually busted, but nobody figured them out yetif they were, why would ggg say>we're boosting rewardsinstead of>we're making it clearer how to get the rewards
>>550559658imagine the state (and the smell) of /poeg/ if both leagues started the same day
>>550559856it's the worst of both worlds, unintuitive and unrewarding
>>550559957nta but then they'd have retards piling on them because the average poe player thinks he's extremely smart and good at the gamethe temple rewards are ass though
>>550559762>Yet pootwotrooners almost always defer to these big numbers to claim that their soulslop game have already more succesful that poo1 ever was.Yeah poe 2 came from being 8X as successful as poe 1 down to just 3X. Still 3x the players. Also the asynch tabs alone must have sold more revenue than POE 1 in 3 years.
Wait, is Path of Exile 2 bad?
This all happened because you were cruel and hurtful to Chris Wilson during Kalandra btw.
>>550560186mental illness
>>550560186trvke
>>550559938Can you find a thread with more pages than this?pic related is a damage control post after 3.15
>>550559762>>550560186If you're going to samefag maybe be less ESL
Matiki is literally the only good karui in act 4.
>>550560321Almost as glorious as the Harvest manifesto seethe on redditors
>>550560005>unintuitive and unrewardingSyndicate is also unrewarding. >run 10 maps for a boss fight>get a boss fight>no veiled orb>1c flask drop Oh wow. >bu bu but my super secret crafting optionsThe temple also has unique crafting options, pulling the negative mods off of the caal uniques is potentially game breaking, you just gotta get very lucky
>>550560321>>550560270Kalandra mindbreak.Still not as bad as "A Message to Path of Exile 1 Players"
Even with all the themeing it feels like the PoE2 Aztiri fight is somehow worst than the original.
>>550560321https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3069670the harvest manifesto of course, it's where it all started.
>>550560503Damn almost 500 pages
Am I allowed to say I think the game is actually really good, or will that upset people a lot and make them very very angry?
>>5505601868x more tworist that wont come back as soon as they realize they will have to do the same campaign again every league lol
>>550560598
>>550560321>>550560406>>550560463
>>550560648it's been 4 leagues
Just give it up. Rush out act 5 and end it there, start working on PoE3. This one's cooked, chopped, and retarded.
BFR new game when
>>550560721Yep.
>>550560662when i think about it i'd feel miserable if harvest came back, id literally be forced to run it on every atlas. its that good, id rather be in lab jail
>>550558965You have to understand, 4chan is the bad guy free speech site, so the good guys get a sense of purpose by fighting against the bad guys.It's all arbitrary though, and the purpose is to incite violence because the higher up's allegiance is to destruction, so they can rebuild and progress.Most of these stalkers and clowns on 4chan are disposable, "first to face the wall" guys, so don't let it get to you.They have far stronger, and illegal methods of causing strife, which I know a thing or two about.
>>550560980why did you ignore dawn of the hunt?
>>550560728>>550560980You know maybe...hear me out...maybe.... PoE2 isn't really a good game...
>>550560980thats the growth trend ggg predicted before 0.2 even launched.
>Shock Conduction II>"Always Shocks enemies which are Drenched">there is exactly one(1) source of Drenched in the entire game>even the one other skill that can cause Overgrown (Navira's Oasis) doesn't inflict Drenchedc'mon.
>>550561123Everybody did.
>>550561324>growth trend >growthare you retarded?
When is the next tab sale? I don't have a merchants tab and can't sell any of this shit it's annoying.
qrd to temple changes?reddit doesnt like them at all
>>550561510This weekend, should start in 24 hours or lessAlso if you had premium non-quads from before 0.3 released you can upgrade them to merchants for free
>>550561553All I had was a quad :(Guess I'll get some tomorrow.
>>550561419this is like the 6th time ggg has done this, in their own words there is a launch peak, a dip, then steady annual growth.
>people still talking about og harvestI think it should come back and it would feel pretty weak imho, sure many items would be easier to craft but whats the high end these days?Triple synth items and reflected rings & amulets, how will harvest help us here? maybe I forgotten some crafts....
>>550561725you dont need any of it
>>550561725me on the left.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3892453>After completing non-boss Fate of the Vaal encounters, a Chest will now rise out of the center and drop some items. In the campaign, this will be a magic chest but in Endgame it can be Magic or Rare.
>>550559242It's our community, faggot. You just got here last year and pretend you run shit like a brown, invasive species.
>>550561725the people who got mindfucked by harvest weren't crafters, they were just selling augs on tft. current crafting in poe mogs the fuck out of 3.13 harvest crafting.
>>550556314>shill [[THING]]>"what about you guys"lmao jesus christ blizzard get it together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDF-SCltL1Q>2 minutes>We're adding this this and this>Here it is>Thanks byeOld poe patch videos seem way better than new poe patch videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ydMR8LS2mQKEK
>>550561798You are right but players want it, they are strong items. We want strong items, but you be you with your meme items.>>550561934I think you are right, harvest crafting wouldn't feel that great in current poe. Crafting is not the isue these days.
>>550562089Loliposters need to unironcally get the fire
>>550560503I'm a latelet 2bab and I'm aware of OG Harvest's reputation as an item printer but I also know the horticrafting bench is still extremely powerfulWhat about this did people find objectionable? Asking sincerely since it all seems fairly reasonable to me, though losing the ability to juice Oshabi sounds pretty gay
>>550562023you just made me click on a Zizaran vid. Fuck you>>550562089The things that I would do to this body. Yum.
>>550562089i just wont bother doing this shit as long as i can get my meme items effortlessly shant be recombinating ever too after they've butchered it into giant gold dust sink
JONATROON
if all my damage is elemental is there a difference between x% exposure and x% shock?
>>550561931>tfw tourist take over a 13 years old running community with their 1 year of experience and contributionGO*CLAP*BACK*CLAP*TO*CLAP*POE1*CLAP*
i'm conflicted about the game rn. on one hand, for a $30 beta this is by far the most bang for my buck I've ever gotten out of a game. 400 hours played, probably hundreds more to come and constant free updates. on the other hand, the lack of endgame is ultra apparent and I sorta feel like I'm just playing out of habit now. weird.
>>550562274Zizaran is /ourguy/ thoughbeit
It's time to drop poo1
>>550561914I hope it rises really slowlyoh you want the lil chest il good gamer goy? wait for the chest! whose a good goy!
>>550562367This is a sirgog / quin69 board. Fuck off
>>550562586>ESL>obsessed with jewsWhy is this such a common combo?
LET*CLAP*THEM*CLAP*POOP*CLAP*
>>550562367>le whiny werewolf rape victim>>550562615>le obese aislop bong>le ironic tardrage manlet
>>550562528further proof that PoE 2 players are brown retards who think spending 30 dollars a year ago means their opinion matters
The tub is awfully full, exiles.
>play druid>all bear build guides seem to use infernal cry>infernal cry doesn't empower talisman attacksam I missing something or is everyone else retarded?
>>550562343Every time I feel like that I go play grim dawn.
they removed the red glow on maps that shows you where the next corrupted area is
>>550562154it wasn't like harvest is now.the plots in the sacred grove had crafts in them, your horticrafting station could bank crafts to be used later. there is a discord server called tft that sells a lot of shit like crafting services. in 3.13 a lot of people would just run white atoll maps looking for good harvest augments to sell on tft.some of the augments were 3+ div, so people were running 20 second maps looking for good augs to sell. basically you had a lot of people who never made more than a few divines a league getting extremely rich, ggg took that away and they never got over it.
>>550561931Why are my brown amigos catching strays? Without them, where would I get my yummy ethnic lunch?
>>550562619can it kike
>>550562684>poo1 makes my poo-esque game sucks>killing poo1 will make my poo-esque game less suck surelythe state of poo-esque brown retards
>>550562892pipe down latinx
am I crazy or the changes are not nearly significant enough? and what about the rooms that just didn't work at all? this shit looks completely fucked
>>550562824>they removed the red glow on maps that shows you where the next corrupted area isThe entire Zizaran wishlist is purged and Zizaran himself is excommunicared from getting an interview again. Crybabies not welcome, you will learn the game.
>poo2 makes my game... deadplease help me
>>550562929I don't have a single brown ancestor faggotas a group jews are worse for society than browns ever were anyways
CHART ALERTTHE 80K FLOOR HAS BEEN BREACHED I REPEATTHE 80K FLOOR HAS BEEN BREACHED
>>550563232Argentinian?
>>550563127>dont leave... tourists...
>>550563127Pohx-sama will save us
>>55056325380000 browns still play this shit game?
>>550562154The issue was never that Harvest was too good or even better than other crafting methods, the issue is that it was incredibly straightforward and easy to use despite needing shittons of grind which irritated the fuck out of both the turbo autists and GGG that the average schmuck could sit there and grind his balls off for perfect T1 items.
>>550562937just wait for incursions 3.0 in pee 3
>>550563523>turbo autists and GGG streamers and GGG
>Biggest complaint is endgame...>What if we didn't touch the endgame?What exactly was GGG thinking?
>>550563383>If you don't like it don't play it>AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT LIKE THAAAAAT
Harvest wouldn't impact the game at all if it got released, sure it would satisfy some simpletons who could sell their crafts on TFT once again but the meta has warped A LOT since harvest came out, it might simplify some crafts but to anyone who's looking to push builds, which is majority of us it won't really help.
>>550563678That was explained in ZiggyD's Q&A lil gup
>>550563253The trend is over.
>>550563523>straightforward and easy>needing shittons of grind>could sit there and grind his balls off for perfect T1 items.but that actually sounds boring as fuck. >grind grind grind>edit a perfect item>beat the game If that's how it really was they were right to remove it.
>>550563678majority of players never make it into endgamein 1 most of the playerbase doesn't get 4 stones and never has
>>550563678>people complain about this aspect of the game>whenever we change something they talk about that thing>if we change that thing, they'll talk about it, and when they talk about it, they complain>this leads to bad press and word of mouth>so we just ignore it until we're ready to overhaul it entirelyread in jonathan's voice
>>550563383this is what happens when you cater to normies that you can't maze>>550563734nope grey line still goes down
>>550563769you can beat the game with magic items
>>550562937>the changes are not nearly significant enoughdude they had less than 1 week during which they've been plugging holes left and right.the problem about december leagues is that they have very little time, they release it, patch a few things, then go on sabbatical for 2 weeks. if you don't like the state of the game tomorrow, consider the league over.
GGG and their obsession with league start peak numbers will be their downfall
>>550563897They literally said they don't care about the retention in the recent q&a
>>550563830if you use items you didn't beat the game
>>550563523current crafting is easier and requires less grinding. anyone who actually crafts their own gear isn't going to want to go back to spamming harvest hoping for a fracture or the right add/rem.
>>550563678>biggest complain was the lack of Druid>they release the druid>and a sorc ascendancy too>build diversity highest it ever was>NOOOO THE OTHER COMPLAINTThe endgame fixed the most glaring issues and streamlined the worst aspects of it AND released the druid. with 4 different builds, 1 good, 1 fun and 1 OP.0.4 is a good patch.
>>550563981Yeah that's my point. No one really had a problem with harvest because it was too good. They just had some weird fixation on it being too streamlined compared to using x dog dick with y cat piss blocked to 50/50 slam cheeto nuts on your item.
>the meta has warped A LOT since harvest came outlol
harvest reforge suffix alone was a more powerful crafting tool than anything we currently have access to outside of the bench mods, you are all retarded
>>550563769bro the game is already like this>grind grind grind>mirror a perfect item from TFT mafias>beat the gameHarvest or not.Atleast Harvest gives you the agency to craft the perfect items yourself.
>>550560728I'm not sure they can fix it desu. it's fundamentally a bad game.
>>550564074The Roach is not happy about 0.4https://youtu.be/WB1WU8zVEYM?si=37lqJAooxtehboXi
>>550550378Damn so 0.4 bled way more players? Ouch
>>550543770WHY DID POOP OF EXILE 2 REMOVE THE SCION SHE WAS BEST GIRLFUCK YOU FAT FUCK IM NOT BUYING YOUR SHIT GAME
>>5505642940.5 will have Scion aurastackerWe will zoom through maps at Mach 5 speedThe game will be gloriousPoo2 is saved10 millions CCU
>>550563945copeiest of all copes>w-we don’t even care about retention hahahsad and pathetic
>>550564106necropolis had the most batshit insane crafting system the game has ever seen, no one cared that it didn't go core.
>>550564093>>550564106When you think about it the meta changed A LOT, bring the precious item editor garden back and it would literally have zero impact on the current game, pushing builds these days relies on various other factors that the garden has no control over
>>550564453Tell this to Mark. He said that
>>550564187Yeah, the weapon-bound skills are fundamentally incompatible with the support system. Fixing the design problems they've piled on top of one another because of that conflict just isn't ever going to happen. Maybe they'll figure it out in 3.
>Chris Wilson's famous line is "If you make it to maps, we own your soul.">Toss out the entire highly successful and iterated upon poe1 endgame to rush dogshit unfinished trash that accomplishes the OPPOSITE and means people who beat the campaign and enter maps are driven away and have less fun than they did in interludes.two campaigns with a shared endgame was the day 1 goal of poe2 for a reason. GGG slaughtered the golden goose.>BUT MUH 500k ON RELEASE!Lost Ark had 2x that. How many play it now?PoE was a veritable unicorn GAAS showing year over year growth despite being 12 years old, like the only other comparable game in age+trend line growth was Warframe (also a former indie studio now owned by tencent like ggg).Imagine if DE stopped all content updates for Warframe for an entire year and instead you just had Soulframe eating all development, thats literally what GGG did with poe1 forever settlers
>>550564586Dear Markus, you are coping.
>pob showing my chance to shock at 1% for literally every skillwell that's nonsense
>>550564230>The Roach is not happy about 0.4>disclaimer>Literally Who actually likes the game just not happy about the current mechanicYeah, i'm not happy about the temple too. It's just too convoluted and you can't undo the mistakes, I literally softlocked myself, i placed the rooms and the architect doesn't open anyway. I don't know what I need to unlock him. Yes, that sucks, I hope they fix it. Everything else about the patch is good, ESPECIALLY the nerfed exalt drop rates. The shitters like zizaran demanded more basic currency it created an immediate hyperinflation that priced all the dadgamers out of participating in the economy at all. If it's about the Temple - I agree it needs fixing. Everything else was good.
you don't understand these mirror gear store mafia will starve if you keep the full power of harvest
>>550564639Yep, they should've let Tubman make his own spinoff called Souls of Exile or some dumb shit like that and made a real sequel that iterates on the foundation of the GOAT ARPG.
>>550564563>meta changed A LOThow the fuck did meta change
GGG needs to stop treating PoE2 like a finished game that only gets 3 updates per year.Initially 1.0 was planned for summer. Now we're 1 year in, with 1 new act, 2 classes and 2 league mechanics.0.4 being a let down stings, but what's far worse is the painfully slow progress. We were promised an end-game rework in 0.2, then it was delayed to summer, then to winter and now to 0.5, which drops one year after 0.2.The whole league format makes sense when the game is complete (or close to it). But only releasing content in batches (and underdelivering while doing so) and forcing players though the campaign over and over again for a hand full of changes is guaranteed to burn people out and drive them away, and the numbers reflect that. Currently 0.4 has the worst player early player retention of ANY league between both games.Incursion should never have been a league. It should’ve been a 0.3.5-style patch with fast iteration and quick fixes. The endgame rework could’ve been 0.3.6, Shadow/Marauder 0.3.7, and so on. Save a jump to 0.4 for something actually substantial, like a new act or a full Atlas rework.Also the whole notion of calling these updates "leagues" is flawed. This isn't seasonal content, it's core features being added to the game.I think the game is currently on the wrong track and that a switch to a continuous update cycle until 1.0 would be infinitely better.
I wonder what the plan for the rest of the campaign is, releasing Acts 5 and 6 in the same patch or releasing 5 and a new interlude act.
>>550564858I know this is copypasted from reddit or something but>GGG needs to stop treating PoE2 like a finished game that only gets 3 updates per year.This is fucking hilarious after sitting through 0.1 where GGG pledged to stop doing major mid-league changes after the mega chimpout over CoF Comet
>>550564806make the WASD+dodgeroll shit a feature of Ruthless and leave the rest of the game unchanged, we have exilecon gameplay of poo2 with flasks and normal poe1 speed but poo2 graphics and gems, just give us that holy fuckyoutube.com/watch?v=jVRADmjzsss
>>550564549That was the opposite problem from harvest where you could easily craft utterly deranged items, but the number of hoops you had to jump through made most people rather just uninstall the game.
Who knew that being a hater would be so cathartic? Negative thoughts come back at you my ass I'm smiling ear to ear.
>>550564962i'm betting on 0.5 being a campaign rework and endgame rework.
>>550564835eldritch implicits kind of cucked most influenced items.
>>550565047Nope, get fucked poowunnie, enjoy your dead game while it still operates
how the FUCK did it get THIS bad???? jfc
I think the pace and core gameplay of 2 is more fun than 1.
>>550565206Your game is dying in every measurable metric, rolltranny
>>550565047>poe2 routinely blows the fuck out of even the highest poe1 leagues' numbers despite being blatantly unfinished, with even worse balance, and costing money>therefore they should scrap all that and make it like the less successful game insteadExplain the business logic here to me.
WASD was a mistake
>>550565458PoE 2 is only successful because of a bunch of newfag gamer dads heard that PoE was amazing for years and finally had an easy point to jump in. The trend is already over though. They know what a slog PoE 2 is and aren't even making it through the campaign every few months and the numbers show that.
>>550565307this enrages the pootoourist freaks
>>550564858>GGG needs to stop treating PoE2 like a finished game that only gets 3 updates per year.They are A/B testing>0.1 ruthless and hard>people love it (because it's new)>0.2 rich economy >more of the same but it's not new anymore>the players revolt>0.3 buffs, loot and training wheels>immediate hyperinflation busted builds breaking the game and printing currency destroying he economy>0.4 some adjustments, less loot, nerfs to the most busted shitNerfing the builds mid league causes the community to screech, not nerfing them causes the entire economy to break. There's a lot of things they need to keep track of in the same time.
I'm sorry but "it's EA" is a lie. They treat it like a full release with leagues, supporter packs, patches, and huge promotion during the 0.1 launchthe only reason they would ever call it "EA" would be to shield it from criticisms
>>550565458>make a game on the goodwill, excellent reputation and literally millions in cash that Poo1 brought in>spend millions on marketing, twitch streamers, campaign, hype>m-muh game is so more successful than y-your zoom zoom g-gamble gameFucking brown.
>>550565047>backport the poo2 graphics into poo>make poo2 according to THE VISIONeveryone wins
Extremely disappointing patch - does nothing to address several core issues like the temple just being barren of mobs to begin with (why are we buffing 10 white monsters per room GGG? lets add some packs in there perhaps). How is the solution to add bosses to each t3 room? The temple needs to be packed with loads of monster packs and rares to actually juice up in the endgame.Still have to full clear rooms with mobs hiding in corners attacking random target dummies rather than being aggressive towards you so you have to search each corner and seek them out. Nobody cares about itemizing regals and exalts in the endgame. A magic or rare chest popping up at the end of a map encounter is laughable.The architect changes are ok at least. Like, sure, the temple is being buffed, but it's not going to move the needle anywhere near enough.Temples should be both juicer and more rewarding than maps, especially considering you have to leave your map to do it and as a baseline you are missing your atlas tree, tablets, waystone mods ect.
>>550565316>I think the pace and core gameplay of 2 is more fun than 1.Yes. POE 1 sounds good until you play it and feel just how bad everything feels, then your objective is to make a build that plays the game for you because the core game is bad. POE 2 is right to focus on fixing that
>>550565792All valid criticism, but this patch is the "here you go I'm off now on vacation" so unfortunately this is it for the next 5 weeks
>>550565458you can't accurately compare them unless we see what GGG spent on PoE2 development vs PoE1 development
>>550565935le vacation memehahaha
>>550565734maybe people are just bored with poe1s expedited and overly deterministic progression system.
>play 25 hours normally, decent performance>cant even launch the game tonightuh ok
>>550565935>>550565993>le vacation memeIt's not a meme. The New Zealanders are mandated by law to do fucking nothing for the next couple months, first christmass, then for the Maori holidays. If Johnathan really really wanted to keep them in the office he would have to pay them no less than double and they still would have the right to refuse.
>>550564835From the top of my head builds that are looking to push these days are looking at some of these, the meta has definitely changed since then and garden can't really help here>triple synth items>original sin>reflected heist jewelry>purity of fire sublime vision>forbidden jewels>adornedstill a possible path to push a build even in nerfed state
Poo2 is over.Their "fix patch" missed the target by miles and they are clueless as to why reddit hates their game.
>listen to streamers and no-life rmt-ers, remove tower tablets so they can farm more easily >ignore that it leaves the endgame dead boring for everyone >game dies nice one, GGG retards
>>550565993if only it was a meme, anon.https://www.govt.nz/browse/work/public-holidays-and-work/public-holidays-and-anniversary-dates/
why is cutedog such a coomer
>>550566320I HECKING LOVE RUTHLESS COCK SLURP SLURP SLURP
>>550565920>POE 2 is right to focus on fixing thatI guess they did technically solve it by making everything feel like shit and giving you absolutely no way of fixing it
>>550565587>>550565734>the numbers show that.PoE2 on Friday hit 281k with a mediocre, gimmicky new class, a dogshit league mechanic that adds a whopping 2 new enemies (and nothing new to the lore even), and literally no meaningful additions to either the endgame or the acts. Its daily peak by the end of the free weekend was 255k.PoE1's all time high is 228k which was Settlers and it hasn't broken 200k even once in the year and a half since then despite being permanently F2P. Before Settlers, PoE1 broke 200k exactly once, in 3.21.Its peak today, a weekday 5 days after league launch when it's no longer F2P, is 173k. Keepers' launch day was 184k and within 24 hours that dropped to 151k.The numbers show the exact opposite of what you claim.
>>550543770I fucking hate the infusion mechanic, literally the only way to enjoy ele spells is by using the infusion shit because non-infused spells hit for aboslutely fucking nothing.
>>550566320the endgame already was dead-boring.endless atlas ain't it bro.they should have just copied the poe1 systems and maybe even do a somewhat slimmed down shared endgame and focus on acts.
>>550566320I don't think your average dad gaymer has seen a 3x overlap once in their life
The amount of gacha players is concerning
>>550565792Valid. This is something I can agree with. The current mechanic isn't very exciting, but hey it's better than the azmeri spirits. The abyss is actually braindead too, you only like it because it's straightforward and rewarding. But i like the rest of the game and the druid.As for the temple, I think it has the potential to be good one day, it's much better than the POE 1 incursion where you had to leave your maps 4 times to blow up one shitty room and go back. The OG incursion was dogshit, Incursion 2 is already better.In all seriousness, it's a good idea it just needs polish
>>550565458if poo2 had poe1 gameplay but shiny graphics and the new gem system/new classes as originally intended it'd be way more successful.this league is literally the worst retention ever, even worse than keepers
>>550566502>Release dogshit game>Gacha players arriveMany such cases
REMOVE KINGSMARCH GACHASLOPYOU FAT FUCKING TROON
>>550566441we gonna ignore the massive hype and marketing money poured into poo2? we gonna ignore the 2 year long marketing circus of jonathan giving hundreds of interviews, and even stating "the game is ready" ahead of launch?we gonna ignore the curve only pointing downward for poo2, while the curve always pointed up for poe1, except for a couple slip ups that have been corrected come next league?
>>550566441>w-we have more tourists and m-mazed retards than you gameYour poo-esque game is dying 1 year after Early access and you can't do anything about it.
>>550566585>>550566620So we're just making shit up now?
the djinn ascendency feels like a poe 1 class and that's why its good. refute this.
>>550566441Let's go ask destiny 2 players how that worked out for them
>>550566610what gachaslop? are you mentally handicapped?>>550566657point to the part that isn't true
>>550566686destiny 2 is literally the exact same game as 1 which is what poe2 should apparently be
>>550566441the counterargument is not "lets compare poo2 with current poe1 which is abandoned and actively being killed by GGG"the hypothetical is poo2 vs poe1 with poe2's graphics, classes, and campaign but the entire poe1 atlas and endgame and 10+ years of content.90% of casuals are straight up MUH GRAFIX fags, if poe1 looked like poe2 in every way and the only difference was gameplay you can't pretend the situation wouldn't be different. 4.0 was originally meant as a graphical overhaul and new campaign for exactly that reason
>>550566498they weren't worth the effort to set up.
>>550566672>gives you a bunch of dedicated cutscene skillsIt's about as far away from poe1 as you can get
Poo2 is a clear case of Runescape 3 vs OSRSWe all know how that turned out.
>>550566320>>550566498>tripple overlap>path through the pointless unjuiced maps towards the tower>do the tower>spend time setting it up>thrice>path towards the overlapping area>ah yes, i can finally play the gameIt was dogshit design, you had to play the pointless maps before you finally get to the juice. Removing the towers was a very good decision.
Also last question, has there been an inflation in trade or is it just me? I'm returning to trade after playing a lot of ssf and private leagues in the recent years and I'm looking to push some builds, like I considered a budget of 3 mirrors for starters and it feels measly, like It'd be a bait to start even considering of pushing a build yet, it feels like I have what used to be 100 exalts
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GGG wonPoE2 wonJonathan winnedDeal with it
>>550566829>rare is a descriptor not only for the color of the box but also how often it's gonna appeargrim
>>550566852what the fuck is pushing a build
>>550566876
>>550566441it should be inflated far beyond whatever bullshit you posted riding on brand recognition at mostsad cope my manyour game sucks
>>550566498yes, but randomly finding even a 2 overlap area is hype, compared to now where there's nothing>>550566825learn some delayed gratification, you fucking little baby brain
why are we constantly bullied by vtumours and gacha niggers?
>>550566912right now ggg, jonathan and poo2 are in the process of winning only one award.
>>550566729Considering the last time I walked into /dg/ they were still crying about SIVA not really. Although it seems they are porting more stuff over
whats the leveling philosophy in d2? i assume attributes are all so you can carry equipment and the rest in vitality?how about skill? like do you save skill points if you aim for mid/high tier skill that has no synergies with early skills?
>>550567025>but randomly finding even a 2 overlap area is hypePoE tworism has got to have the most raped community of all time
>>550567154retard with nothing to add
>>550566984Pushing a build means min-maxing a build, obtaining best in slot items. I mean it's the main reason to play trade and HOLY is it expensive these days, I don't even feel like considering of starting with 3 mirrors, like it feels I have 100 exalts
>>550567025>but randomly finding even a 2 overlap area is hypeMaybe if you're a retard that didn't understand how towers worked, the gap between 2 and 3 was absurd
>>550567073WE'RE WATCHING NATURAL SELECTION HAPPEN LIVE>>550567025hype? anon, after you've found 2-3 that feeling will be relief, because you can actually play the game for a bit, rather than aimlessly "exploring" your endless atlas in search of an area worth doing. that ain't it.
lowest concurrent players today is 5% less than yesterday, this game's playerbase is MELTING
>>550566729>destiny 2 is literally the exact same game as 1no it isn't, it's worse in literally every way which is why it bombed on release and even its all-time high peak players is nowhere near the millions who were playing D1.D1 was console exclusive and still had 3.2 MILLION players a day. I can tell you're a zoomer since you don't comprehend how huge a deal destiny 1 was 10+ years ago and how utterly irrelevant destiny 2 ishttps://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/13/destiny-averages-32-million-players-per-day
>>550567120Yeah if you're following a build you just save your skills until you can dump them into the one or two you need. Or don't, since you can respec
>>550567025>learn some delayed gratification, you fucking little baby brainMore of the same isn't delayed gratification. Building up towards something different, like doing 10 breach maps for a breach boss is a delayed gratification. Doing 30 slop maps for 5 better slop maps is not enough gratification to justify the delay.
>>550567203Just like your towers nowFaggot
>>550566852>inflationthat's just new poe, we get more and more expensive shit every league
>>550567025>just enjoy doing your chores in a video game
>>550566729destiny 2 is literally the exact same game as 1 but downgraded in every way possible which is what poe2 should apparently be
>>550567315how do you respec? i thought that your build is set in stone
which coomer gacha slop should I play while the bros are offline, I'll finish poo2 in a day if I don't wait on them
>>550567460>poo2 doesn't even explain this>dad gamers don't know how to respec because they didn#t watch the interview train by poonathan
>>550567025it wasn't delayed gratification, it was just a waste of time. there wasn't even enough endgame content to justify that level of minmaxing. spending 3 hours to set up an overlap to juice a few maps with slightly better breaches was peak retardation.
>>550567347enjoy your shitty dead game, faggot no-life farmers
>>550567514i was talking about d2 you fucking retard
>>550567502Horse pussy
>>550567589that is even worsehttps://lmgtfy.app/?q=diablo+2+respec
>>550567648why should i google when i can ask /poeg/ bros your fucking retard
>>550567460At base you get one free respec per difficulty and there's also tokens of absolution
>>550567692because you're not a retarded baby that can't look anything up himself, right? RIGHT?with google, you don't even have to fill a captcha.
>>550566852yes thanks to the abyss bug
>>550567707that's a new thing. didn't exist back when i played diablo 2, aka when the game was still relevant.
>>550567264Nigger please I literally played Destiny 1 on release, pretty sure I still have old clips somewhere of making Atheon kill himselfThe entire reason Destiny 2 exists is because Desitny 1 was completely irrelevant by the time it released and they were desperate for any publicity, nobody wanted to pay $20 for 4 hours of the most shallow "raid" content in any MMO. Taken King was the last time anyone gave a fuck about Destiny
>>550567570>enjoy your shitty dead gameBut I don't play poe2
>>550567784also the exact same thing that overwatch did
>>550567743""""bug""""i hate nu-ggg, calling any oversight on their part that was working as expected a bug, just so they can pretend they didn't nerf it
>>550567707huh i dont remember this being a thing back in the day, did they add that later? if thats the case then i can skill random shit at the beginning then
>>550567849Don't remember when they added it
>>550567834are you retarded?
>>550567570>faggot no-life farmersBROKE NIGGA ALERT BROKE NIGGA ALERT
>>550567570what's wrong with enjoying the grind? dadgamer envy because you can't do it too?
>>550567827you just whined to make it worse and then stopped playing, classic tourist
>>550567849they added it in like 2010. it's about as relevant to the d2 discussion as the elemental penetration charms they added in d2r.
DOG SHIT 2UNPLAYABLE GARBAGE
>>550567931point out the bug please.
>main figurehead behind poe2 (and also ruthless)>dips out as soon as the game releases to avoid backlash and having to fix itWhy are you retards praising this moron and jerking off to his pics again?
*gets up on hind legs**roars**eyes turn red**begins to rampage**white mob runs up and touches toe**stunned out of animation*MELEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>550568024Fixed a bug where the additional Rare Monsters are spawned from Abysses in Map modifier on Tablets was applying to each pit when combined with the Sprawling Rapture Atlas Passive Skill.
>>550567941>stopped playingI never played past 0.1, I'm not staying in that tubAnd if I was trying to make the game worse I'd be posting on reddit about how good druid feels in act 2
>>550568050chris has nothing to do with current state of ruthless and poe2
>>550568050jonathan it's not nice to shitpost a man who is supposed to be your friend
>>550568073That's a bug how?It worked just as it was phrased/expected, but it was just too good.They're calling that a bug fix simply so they don't have to declare it a nerf, because they said "we won't do mid league nerfs anymore"It's a shitty optics thing.
>>550568170>doesn't know the difference between Abysses and Abyss Pits2rist detected
>>550568170it used to add more rare monsters instead of a specified amount, there was no hidden interaction
>>550568050Chris bowed out way before the fiasco, end of 2023 or early 2024.>>550568221it's sad that you are trying to defend an obvious nerf
>>550568082>staying in that tubwhat's with the tub comparisons? did i miss some shitty streamer meme?
>>550568269>what's with the tub comparisons?Tworist moment
actually isnt chris behind only behind good parts of poe2, like act1? it was mostly finished on his watch with some tub sprinkled in after he left
>>550568269There's this one old picture of Chris where he's half leaning over so it looks like he's sitting/crouching in a bathtubWith Chris dead our pet retard has decided to try to make it about Jonathan instead
>players discover a farming method that works just as intended but is way too good>panic>don't call it a nerf because that might just cause another backlash>call it """bug fix"""lmao, nu-ggg for you>>550568269>he doesn't know about jonathan's tubhello saaaaaaar are you new here?
>>550568345The only thing chris is behind is ruthless and i guess cucking you with the trade experience
They can't fix what's wrong with poe 1 or 2, they broke it
>>550544689>on probation
The current atmosphere is reminiscent of the Kalandra League in POE1, which is widely considered a low point for the franchise. While there was initial excitement for the Druid class, the delay of the endgame rework to 0.5 has left a sour taste. Furthermore, the 'Temple' league mechanic is being criticized for being extremely boring and unrewarding, leading many to conclude that there is no meaningful reason to engage with the current endgame.
>>550568384a bug is something that causes an unintended interaction in the game. they have been "nerfing" "bugs" since 2013.
Trading should be an additional mechanic not the goal
>>550568269He's going to samefag this post about 6 more times seething that nobody else likes his meme btw
My tub?
I died bros. I finished act 3 and destroyed in the Chaos trial by the whirldwind bird.Should I make a new hc character or just finish out the content in softcore?
>>550568521>The current atmosphere is reminiscent of the Kalandra League in POE1Even grok knows it's joever
>>550568638you've already seen all the new content bro lmao
>>550568579retard
>>550568579SOFT post
First keeper of the flame and now fate of the vaal. Back to back L...
>>550568579most memes are pretty retarded anyways, it's more about being "in" on the joke.
>>550568523can you give an example?
>>550568763>First keeper of the flamewhat's that?
>quick to nerf>slow to buffmah man!
they are so fucking afraid of making things more rewarding that they made the chests that spawn after the encounter MAGIC in the ENTIRE CAMPAIGNHOLY FUCK THIS GAME IS TRASH AND THE DEVS ARE GARBAGE HUMAN BEINGS
>>550569028Poe 1 league
GGG needs an organizational rethink. Both games suck at the moment
>>550569043>they are SCARED of rewarding the playersexpect poo2 to get towned down hard over the next couple patches, they wanna go back to lootless>>550569039lmao the first frame
>Reduced the life of Mirror Arrow and Blink Arrow clones by around 80%. The clones now take 80% less damage to match their previous survivability. The clones originally had their life set higher than normal for survivability reasons. The Minion Instability keystone passive took advantage of this large amount of life and lead to an unreasonably powerful skill combination. After this adjustment, you'll still be able to make instant exploding clones, but they will only have the damage of a fragile minion. The clones themselves still have the same survivability as before in combat situations.that was one of funniest hotfix nerfs, at least they didnt lie about it being a bug.
>>550569091One game is deadThe other one is not
>>550569054>poe1are you really surprised the 2 devs working on poe1 made an underwhelming league?
Season so bad, also game is just a slog in general, I have to run around with a 0.9 speed talisman just because they decided every unique needs a downside, im so tired of their intentional shitty design decisions.
>>550569172PoE1 is clinging on to deal ife, at the edge of a cliff.Poo2 is lying in a hospital bed, braindead, on a ventilator, getting kept alive by force
>>550568875idk cws skyforth
>>550569272poe1 is still growing though?
>>550568268>end of 2023 or early 2024so he worked on poop2 for "only" four years, got it.
>>550569302yeah, against all odds, growth kinda stopped after it got taken over the cliff though, and all helpers rushing the braindead patient to the hospital.
going through the entirety of act 3 without any gear or armor upgrades has killed this shit game for me. i can still easily do the content but knowing that im gimped because of shitty rng feels horrible. i did all of the side quests, zone mechanics, crafts, sell rares for gold, check vendors, and i just get absolutely raped by every gear drop - it's just boring and obvious that johnafaggot has never played his game. having to spend 50 seconds pressing the spacebar to dodge boss attacks compared to killing it in 5 with good gear isn't any different diffuculty wise, i can press the space bar because im not a retard, so why is the game tuned like this?
>>550569390did you miss the part when ggg retards were playing around with dogshit like removing utility flasks long after chris was gone instead of working on the game
>>550569390yeah but jonny had almost 3 years to fix chris' mistakes, yet nothing has been fixed.I wonder how that fits your narrative?
>>550569390the last league chris actually worked on was talisman.people blamed ruthless on him but that was jonathan, mark and rory.
>>550569536actually, the jeet hrishi was the ruthless king
>>550569404unironically compare poe1 peak player counts between leagues. outside of obvious tourist leagues like settlers its keeping the playerbase or growing. poe1 is doing fine.
what a buncha RETARDED FREAKS ITT
So what are druid wolf bros using to clear?
>>550569648not lately, they are trying to kill it so poo2 doesn't look so bad by comparison.
>>550569681:D
Its not surprising and retention will probably continue falling off hard. The druid is cool (although there is still a lot of jank) but after you tried that its sort of like whats the point. The league mechanic is just outright bad especially compared to abyss which pretty much everyone liked and carried .3 hard imo.Its really hard for me to understand GGGs logic of putting resources into a complicated league mechanic and pushing off endgame changes. Everyone forgave the boring endgame last patch with the promise of .4 is finally the one where it's going to change. Then uhh nah make that .5 surely...All most people really want is endgame to better imo but for some reason that is not a priority apparently
Important reminder: if you want to reflect the population, you must add the PoE1 number + the PoE2 number, as these are completely different players. In this scenario, Jonathan and Mark won and saved ggg.
Grim.>>550569681hello saaaaar welcome to the thread saaaaaaar
>>550569771Abyss is still carrying the game and I'm not even an Abyssfag. All the other league mechanics in PoE 2 are just that bad.
armour is still complete fucking garbagepath of ESile
>>550569860next league is gonna be important. if we don't break the red ceiling it's legit over.
>>550569883Yeah they made abyss too good, some of the shit from it needs to just be base line items. Its essentially mandatory to do it due to abyss crafting.
>>550569947the red ceiling won't break until 1.0 no matter what they put in the league.
>>550569689The uninstall spell (requires 3 frenzy charges -10% damage each charge).
>>550569974lmao retard>they made abyss TOO GOODinstead of>they made anything not abyss TOO BAD
>>550570016And what after 1.0?The game magically be good and start to grow beyond the dreaded red line?
>>550569771>Its really hard for me to understand GGGs logic of putting resources into a complicated league mechanicBro, ggg used to give us complicated league mechanics but they just stopped to do it (when? why?). Modern PoE1 (I guess past Harvest or Heist) is just "clic this item" or "protect this totem for 30 seconds" league mechanics.
>>550570037Yeah thats a better way to put it for sure.
lmao poo2 is so doomed isn't it?
>>550570121employ your pattern recognitionWhat happened during and after Harvest?Is there a certain TWO game that was sucking dry all the resource from Poo1, so much so that since then we only get simpleton league design?
Playin this game for the first time as a life leech/regen druid build.So far the game has been really easy but I got to the trials of sekhena and I feel like the game's giving me a fat middle finger with the honour mechanic.I'll probably have to make an entire new build to get through this specific thing so I can try out a druid ascendancy but god I'm not looking forward to it.
>>550570291if you mean the first trial, just run past everything and focus on dodging for the rare / timer rooms.
>>550570291Anyone being filtered by the first trial floor is just a meme right guys?
>>550570291it looks like you've been filteredyou see the game is not for new players either. No one is infact supposed to play it
>>550570291>trials of sekhena and I feel like the game's giving me a fat middle finger with the honour mechanic.The entire point of Sekhema is to beat it without being hit. The mobs are slow and attacks are telegraphed, you should dodge the attacks and one tap them. Any build should be capable of beating that if you're geared correctly. Gearing correctly in Act 2 is a problem, if nothing works you can go with plant spells, they are pretty good.
>>550570291SOFT
>>550570121Yes but this is not poe1, it's a beta of a game they clearly don't know how to make, they fucked up mobs skill speed and density, map size and drop rates which are fucking basic things in arpgs.
>>550570261they stopped doing them because poe1 had a spike of new players around metamorph/delirium and everyone hated anything more than loot explosions. although to be fair it wasn't much better back in the day, people hated synth, betrayal and incursion.
>>550570540>The mobs are slow and attacks are telegraphed, you should dodge the attacks and one tap them.>gets onetapped by timebossuhhh sweaty, looks like you didn't read the boss ability correctly, time to spend another hour
>>550570261>since then we only get simpleton league design?>League that's more complicated than kill mob get loot gets released>AIIIIIEEEEEEE NOOOOOO WHERE IS THE LOOT E-GRIFTERS MAKE A VIDEO I'M PISSING AND SHITTING MY PANTS NOOOOOOOO
>>550570291overlevel and come back to it. and when you do, don't fight monsters just run to the end of the zone, unless specifically told to kill them.
>>550570396>>550570479I got through most of the entire trial, all the way to the boss. It honestly felt lind of lame how I walked through a door labeled "Test of strength" and instead it was mostly just "How good are you at sprinting past enemies"I just realized that I was doing pixels of damage a hit while any hits from him effectively obliterated like 1/4th of the honor I'd managed to save up, and I was playing a fat facetankAlso when I "died" the game just sat there and made me press Escape and hit "Respawn at checkpoint", so it's like it didn't even know what to make of my death either
>>550570647Sanctum and tota came way after that thoughbeit
>>550570540it's fairly easy up until the 4th floor and then it becomes just fucking retarded and even if you have maximum honor resist, if you don't kill everything off screen you have a very high chance of losing your entire honor bar on that floor alone and wasting your fucking time, so it's retarded for everyone and just not playable for melee
>>550570540Trials are crazy, having to do every single set of rooms each time is an absolutely absurd waste of time, the ritual room where there are elevated surfaces connected by tiny roads with enemies blocking you is pure dogshit.
>>550570983people hate sanctum and tota is just standing in an arena killing monsters.
>>550570886Yeah most people dislike the honor system. Especially with how it favors ranged as much as it does, like everything else in the game. The nice thing is, if you made it that far you probably got a few relics that either increase your honor or honor resistance which helps your next run. I usually do my first sekhema right before the act 2 boss just to ensure I out gear it.
>divs now 140exand so it begins
Here's my league suggestion>Acolyte League>Strange abstract gods have appeared in wraeclast fighting for control>You dedicate yourself to a god and fight his enemies empowering him, the more enemies of god you kill the stronger he gets>You get an effigy thing you put (not) idols in, suffixes change what drops and prefixes make the enemies stronger>In the end you fight the boss god>If you fight the god you 'levelled' he's even more cranked up>The gods look like golden dudes who geometric shapes morphed into their bodies, like a humanoid annul orb
>>550571140>people hate sanctumMaybe in poo2>tota is just standing in an arena killing monsters.You werent killing shit in high bracket tota
>>550570540Yeah I probably just need to remake my build for this and then go backMy build has been fine until now, it's just that the honour mechanic is basically the game turning off the life regen/leech I built myself on off.>>550571152Unfortunately not really, when I realized what honor was and that as a melee life regen build I was as fucked as I could be, I didn't loot shit and just sprinted through as much of the dungeon as possible.Just a really unfortunate mechanic for my particular build.
>>550571334i forgot sanctum is a beloved mechanic in poe1, not something a handful of people farm with hyper specific builds.
>>550571331>The gods look like golden dudes who geometric shapes morphed into their bodies, like a humanoid annul orbSounds pretty cool, I'd type "HYPE! Does this mean were getting annul man pet xD" under the YouTube trailer then not play the league
> A consistent bit of feedback we have received is that rewards for the temple are not high enough, particularly in the endgame. The rewards simply don’t scale enough to make temples worth doing currently. lol. remember how during christ wilson reign the ggg philosophy was that current league mechanic has to be the most rewarding thing in the game? and today people are coping with breach being bad because theres no atlas and scarabs LMAOas if something like sentinel needed atlas points and scarabs to be good
>>550571023>so it's retarded for everyone and just not playable for meleeI did it first try on my monk, but poe 2 monk is not exactly melee. >>550571079>>550570794>looks like you didn't read the boss ability correctlyI don't know what the boss ability do I never get hit by them, I just dodge when I see a swing, but the traps and mobs in the sekhemas are infuriating, I simply hate running the sekhema trial because of how long and boring it is. Ultimatum is much faster, after your first sekhema ascendancy you can get the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th from the Ultimatum. It's much better.
>>550571494Why would they need to buff the endgame? The campaign rewards are perfectly fine, just make a new character and do it again in the campaign.
>>550571451sanctum league was supreme kino. delve league was supreme kino. just because its not popular today doesnt mean that league was bad.
>Why would you play through the campaign a second time ever in your life
>>550571496>I did it first try on my monk, but poe 2 monk is not exactly melee.I meant Zarokh BTW, not the 1st trial. Back then people were crying how hard the puzzle is, streamers were moaning it's umplayable without blink. I went in and beat it on first try with 15 MS on my boots. The boss literally doesn't deal damage, just eat the attacks and wail on it until you win, gonna take a while.
>>550571451>AIEEEEEEEE A BUILD MINMAXED TO FARM SPECIFIC CONTENT THAT DEMANDS DIFFERENT STRENGTHS THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE GAME HELP ME TUBSHITTERMANI suppose you've never seen a heist build either
>>550571678what else is there....
>>550563889>if you don't like the state of the gamedoes anyone like it?
Turd tub
>>550571561More like why spending time buffing and tweaking something unfinished and without direction.
>>550571331>You get an effigy thing you put (not) idols in, suffixes change what drops and prefixes make the enemies strongerBro merged Archnemesis with Necropolis and thought we wouldn't notice. 10/10 you can work for GGG
>>550571764The problem is that Sekhema is mandatory for every build to run. Sure they nerfed the shit out of your first run you can do it on any char. But if Ultimatum wasn't there ascendancy would be excusive to the ES stacking spellcasters.
>>55057176495% of the poe1 playerbase hates those mechanics and just want loot explosions, they have been very very vocal about it.
>>550571809RMT-ers love it without tower tablets since they can just mindlessly farm
>>550571837*splash splash* haha come on in anon the waters perfect!
without a doubtpoop 2 winz0r
>>550572060There was supposed to be the third way of ascending, most likely ToTa, but they're so behind the schedule on everything that we'll be lucky if we get it next summer. And it will probably be another nightmarish abomination that will make you wanna gauge your eyes out while doing it
>>550572068>95% of the poe1 playerbase hates those mechanics and just want loot explosions, they have been very very vocal about it.It's fine for POE 1 because sanctum is 100% optional and if you don't like it you don't have to ever touch it.POE 2 promised that there's going to be many different options to ascend eventually so it's gonna be fine too. The first run is short, free and you can't fail, after than you can get other ascendancies from ultimatum, so there isn't really a problem. Actually you can just skip the first ascendancy and go straight for the 2nd in Act 3 too.
>>550572146would explain why they are so desperate to get the poe 1 atlas added to the game. mind off blasting the same map would be a huge increase in their rmt profit.
Whats everyone re-rolling as?
>>550572146>RMT-ers love it without tower tablets since they can just mindlessly farmI love it too because now I can farm mindlessly too.
Level 90.5 ssf and I haven't seen a single citadel if this endgame isnt completely reworked for 0.5 it is genuinely fucking over man
>>550572426play cookie clicker, more your speed
>>550572320who cares about people complaining about ascension? people still bitch about running the lab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0_kCfkwwawTRI IS MOODING
>>550572496towers weren't a good system. they were obviously one of the first things they added to the new endgame years ago when their concept of endgame juicing was mostly based on sextants.
I haven't played this league so take this with a grain of salt but in PoE1 they would add a bunch of bullshit and everyone would get something to take away and play with, new skill, new support a new unique. This would mean if you liked bows, minions, melee etc you would each get something. PoE2 seems to deliver more 'complete' archetypes but that means there's build diversity and less to play with. Compare Mathil playing like 10 builds in phrecia to like 3 in .3 or whatever it was
poo too
the temple buff will save the league and none of this constant jewtuber shilling can change my mind
whats s-tier starter thats non fubgunshit
You can judge me, but i will try duet night abyss again instead of poe
>>550572938you take big dick physical dmg crossbow with +7 skill gem levels and put it on whatever with explosive shot and explosive grenades
>>550572068How would you know, you're a tourist shitter who wasn't there for the leagues, as demonstrated by the fact that you don't remember rearguard or knockback maxxxing builds back in TOTA
>>550573048but that crossbow doesnt exist outside of rmting
>>550572927so true hopexister. 500k peak tonight
>>550572874they were better than shitty scarabs in combination with the world map, having different regions on the world map be different with random overlaps made it interesting to explore
HELLO?? OUR TRI OVERLORD ISN'T HAPPY WITH HOW 0.4 IS DEVELOPINGSEND HIM HELP
>>550571764>implying Heist is anywhere near as derided and desolate as SanctumYou don't play PoE1 >>550571763Zarokh is really just a test of your skill getting to him. His moveset is basic yeah but the average tard needs a streamer giving directions to remember how to breathe and you can't get that in sanctum/sugma. Those tards get Smoke debuffs and limp to Zarokh with half their defensive layers deleted and then they get 30% slows on every hit from his tiny balls and the lightning spin's chip damage removes 5% of their Life per hit and they're dealing half damage with no MS or damage buffs to compensate so they think he's hard.>>550572938EDC Lich or plant BM
>>550573141tota was a boring shit mechanic for retards
>>550573184>EDC Lich or plant BM>lich>starter
>>550573184>implying Heist is anywhere near as derided and desolate as SanctumIt isn'tThis is the first league in years where heisters aren't second class citizens
I mean, if we look at the timeline, we could come up with some sort of conspiracy theory.In 2019, Chris Wilson announced PoE2 as the "4.0 Expansion of PoE1", that will modernise this decade old game.In 2023, Jonathan Rogers announced that they changed their mind after 4 years of getting supporter packs, and that PoE2 will not be a PoE1 expansion anymore, but instead a separate game.Then they got a lot of negative feedback from ppl who were able to test PoE2, that it's nothing like "Path of Exile".A bit later, Chris Wilson was rarely in office and only voiced a few "PoE1 League Announcements", but had no involvement in the development anymore, aside from his personal project "Ruthless".Then, around a year of advertising PoE2 with the new graphics and classes, we got the PoE2 "Early Access Announcement". There, they revealed that the access to PoE2 EA will cost ppl 30 bucks, unless you already spend at least 500 bucks.Now, we know Chris Wilson is basically gone.So, what's the tinfoil here?GGG leadership already knew that it was highly likely that a huge part of the PoE community does not like PoE2, aside from the graphics and lore, because everything else that makes "Path of Exile" Path of Exile - is not present there.Setting up an "entry price" for EA is to compensate for the financial loss they will face when many PoE vets aren't interested in "Diablo 5".Sure. On "PoE2 EA realease" I would've called that just tinfoil stuff, but now, with all the additional information we got since then, the interviews where the "viSiOn" is more important than improving the game and making it the game the PoE1 commnunity is asking for - I am not so sure about it anymore just being tinfoil stuff.Just milk your old fans one last time and get another "target audience".Sounds hard, but so far - GGG hasn't shown something that would indicate something else.
>>550573245>boring shit mechanic for retards>posts 99% completion challengeyou remind me of those faggots with 2000 hours played posting negative reviews
>>550573245I agree? hated tota compared to other leagues
>>550573343Jesus christ brother stop the word salad
>>550573184retarded secondary
sanctum runners are the type of people to unironically spec into vaal side areas
>>550573362>you can only have an opinion on something that you know nothing about!
>>550573373You better learn to recognize a wall of ai if you want to survive the future
>skipped necro league to play rocket league>skipped affliction to play WoW>skipped phrecia to play Battlefield>skipped TOTA to play minecraft>skipped 0.3 to play more WoW>played eternal settlersslop>played keepers of the dogshit>played 0.4I lost....
>>550573473>knowing nothing about it>having farmed it for hundreds of hoursif only there was some kind of middleground.
wheres jonathan_huge_schlong.webm theni need to grind some maps
>>550572659>hes graphpostingwhat
>>550573362>your opinion doesn't count because you didn't play it!>your opinion doesn't count because you played too much!It's been what, 30ish years since having an internet connection at home became mainstream? And still the same retarded nonsensical arguments getting repeated verbatim.
How is it? Can I offset the penalties with a really high Spirit scepter?
>add more generators>make some actual fucking balance changes instead of this joke of a patch where they only buffed highly specific tub-approved generate-spend skillsJust like that you have a league worth playing for something other than the one new class.
poo2 sisters... WTF has happened?!
I think 0.5 is the better league to come back>druid nerfed>0.4 league mechanic buffed>hopefully completely new endgame0.4 is just a beta patch basically
>>550573812>your opinion doesn't count because you played too much!unironically, yes. it takes a special kind of autism to spend thousands of hours in poe2 leagues. unless you have the same kind of autism it's best to disregard the opinon of such individuals.
>>550573587>skipped necro league to play rocket leagueno biggie>skipped affliction to play WoWLMAO>skipped phrecia to play BattlefieldLMAO>skipped TOTA to play minecraftLMAO>skipped 0.3 to play more WoWno biggie>played eternal settlersslopLMAO>played keepers of the dogshitLMAO>played 0.4LMAO
>>550573842You need at least 100 Spirit to offset the loss of your base Spirit, but I'm pretty sure every Scepter starts at 100This is pretty much only useful for werewolf minion builds as far as I can tell and those are kinda ass
>>550573842basically think of it as 75% less spirit. it is only worth it if you are playing crit nodes, you use malice scepter which gives 5% base crit that becomes like 25% crit chance. or for minion cuck builds but i dont think anyone has made wolf minions be good yet
>>550573982Even number = skip league.
JON A TROON
>>550574043forgot to mention you can also get 60% mana regen on scepter which is like 4 rage per second for bear build. and + to mana which is really good when your bear abilities cost 600 fucking mana in endgame
>>550573987what does any of this have to do with poe2?
>>550572659I don't get this dooming, the game is more or less what it was before, the vaal temple is shitty but it's not a big deal imho.
>>550573987Sounds like you are simply dismissing any opinion different from your own, anon. Like you cannot even fathom the possibility of being wrong, so you assume that everyone who disagrees with you is a special case and their opinion does not apply
>>550574054What about sentinel?The boobulators....
cringe
>>550574171The game was shit before, anon. People kept hoping that it would improve with 0.4 (as they were promised, remember?)It didn't improve, and the rose tint on the players' glasses is wearing out. The numbers you're seeing now are the numbers that represent the objective state of the game, without the hype
>>550573343BASED keep cooking brother
>>550573976i have to admit, he looks less like a freak with facial hair
>poe1 closed beta 10 usd>poe2 early access 30usd???
>>550574614the 3.0 keys were 30
>>550574686the 2.0 beta was 20. poe3 will be 50.
>>550574686was there even a 3.0 beta? i remember 2.0 but not sure about fall of oriath
>>550572938>get the crossbow skill that breaks armor>take the crossbow skill that does insane damage when armor is brokenI'm sure there's some reason this is actually dogshit or whatever but I enjoyed it
>>550574791during legacy
just heard triGAWD just got put on GGG's kill list after that video
why are there so many mentally ill people in this thread
>>550574437This is the core, jarring problem with the vision of Path of Exile 2.Mechanical Skill (A): dodging attacks, reading animations, predicting enemy behavior, precise positioning, etc.Intellectual Skill (B): understanding deep systems, theorycrafting, optimizing builds through math, and leveraging complex interactions to create extremely powerful characters.You can imagine A and B as two ends of a spectrum or slider: when you lean heavily into one, the other naturally has to give.You cannot have a game that leans heavily on Mechanical Skill while still maintaining a high importance on Intellectual Skill.In simplest term, the more a game requires Mechanical Skills, the less importance of Intellectual Skill, and vice versa.For example, in Dark Souls, players can finish the game at SL0 with zero upgrades, and even complete entire playthroughs without taking a single hit. The game is designed so that intense Mechanical Skill alone can carry you through all the content, effectively bypassing any need for Intellectual Skill or buildcrafting. This works for an action game. But it raises the question: what is an ARPG like PoE without its buildcrafting aspect at the center of its attention?In Path of Exile 1, the design philosophy places the slider roughly at A = 0.1, B = 0.9. The game heavily favors intellectual mastery, its deep systems, open-ended buildcrafting, and complex mechanics allow players to create characters so powerful that, at the high end, they trivialize encounters with billions of damage and near-immortality. This is part of PoE’s identity: its challenge and reward come from understanding and exploiting its ever-growing and ever-changing systems.
>>550574803>but I enjoyed itBased and funpilled enjoyerchad.
>>550574940contFrom the outside, non-PoE1 players and even Johnathan on records, often dismiss it as a “brainless game” that simply blows up multiple screens of monsters. But that’s not the case. The fact that players can clear screens instantly and achieve godlike power is derived from PoE1’s philosophy of leaning heavily on Intellectual Skill. Once you master its complex systems, you can achieve overwhelming power. That is the point. And this is the true reward of clever buildcrafting in Path of Exile.Path of Exile 2 fundamentally shifts this balance. With “meaningful combat,” mandatory roll-dodging, animation-reading, and a large emphasis on moment-to-moment execution, the slider moves sharply toward A, Mechanical Skill, roughly A = 0.6, B = 0.4. As Mechanical Skill becomes a core requirement, Intellectual Skill naturally takes a smaller role in determining player power.This shift alone shows that PoE2 is no longer the same type of game as PoE1. It moves away from deep intellectual buildcrafting and toward a more mechanically demanding action-combat experience, catering to a different kind of skill expression.Again, I genuinely believe that the people developing PoE2 do not fully understand what made PoE1 successful. They are trying to reinvent the wheel without understanding what made the wheel work in the first place.
bearchads are winning bigly right now. we're scaling harder than ever thought possible, popping multiple screens with one meaty slam from our juicy bear paws thanks to herald of ash and ice bugged interaction. we're tanky as fuck and outleveling the squishy fart arrow fubtroons, enjoying the benefits of 20% attack speed and 20% movespeed cyber legs since we never die.best of all? we get to enjoy fulfilling combo cooldown gameplay. you press ancestral cry, walking calamity and savage fury, you do 8x damage for 1 minute. more than enough to clear a juiced t16 map.i genuinely feel bad for anyone that got baited into not playing druid. it is way more fun than anything else in the game, and more powerful.
>>550574940>You cannot have a game that leans heavily on Mechanical Skill while still maintaining a high importance on Intellectual Skill.kind of like dota vs league actually. league requires far higher mechanical skill to perform and dota requires far higher intellectual skill
>>550575041>Again, I genuinely believe that the people developing PoE2 do not fully understand what made PoE1 successful. They are trying to reinvent the wheel without understanding what made the wheel work in the first place.GGG has never understood what made PoE1 good. They stumbled upon a winning formula by accident and have almost ruined it multiple times out of misplaced focus, making the game worse with changes they thought would make it better. They cannot replicate this success intentionally because it was all a fluke and to this day they still have no idea how to make a good game
>>550574803It works, which is more than most builds in the game
>>550575179The power of jonathan's vision...
Ain't reading all that shit chief. Summarize it in 10 words or less
>>550575257gggs design philosophy is best summed up by this mike tyson quote.
>>550575179>we're tanky as fuck and outleveling the squishy fart arrow fubtroonsThis is cope but have fun with the bear
>>550574940Legit point, but POE 2 already is kinda gameplay focused. POE 1 is an insane cluserfuck of mechanics that confuse the people even with a guide and the challenge of the game is to figure it out. Poe 2 doesn't have that. The progression is as simple as buying the best more levels and more damage weapon you can afford and getting more damage from the tree - done. I think POE 2 should do more to flatten the gear power curve and give more power to the tree and ascendancies, so that the people feel like they are playing a game and not MS Excell
>>550575257>GGG has never understood what made PoE1 good. They stumbled upon a winning formula by accident and have almost ruined it multiple timesthis is a flat out lie, chris knew what he was doing. last epoch is your ideal game and its fucking dogshit.
>>550575257>GGG has never understood what made PoE1 good.POE 1 was never good. It was a dogshit game with a stock market simulator.
ziz is cussing at his chat this morning
>>550574940>>550575041I think your insistence on putting numbers to the ratio comes across as autistic and and rather baseless because how do you even measure something like "intellectuality".That said, good read, your talk about mechanical vs. intellectual reminds me of this meme that was bouncing around a couple years ago.
>>550575536id choose le over poe2 every day of the week (at the present moment)
>>550575597is this true poo1 sisters?
undercooked and overshitted
>>550575536The Chris who gave us Expedition, Ruthless, Harvest? Chris was clueless and wanted to make Diablo 2.5 but kept fucking up and accidentally adding items/skills/mechanics that give players "too much" power. The only reason PoE evolved into the game it is today is because of Chris' boner for ultra powerful case items overriding his desire for a slow paced "gritty" pain in the ass.Chris wanted a slow paced hardcore game, but couldn't keep himself from adding huge powerups. Jonathan doesn't have that specific autism and never does anything that could possibly make the players stronger than intended
>i'm going to have a fucking breakdown>its severe retardation>omfg how dumb are youthis is a good stream bros get in here for ziz
>>550575686I think this a bit hard to grasp but I can prove it.I don't know about other builds, so I can't say for them. But I'm almost always a Ranger main so I started PoE2 with a Ranger in 0.1.The first boss I met, which was a green-ish Devourer monster from PoE1 killed me 3 times with it's attacks and slams.I died due to not having the Mechanically Skills required, sure, it is my shortcoming. But did the game present any way to Intellectually solve this problem? Absolutely no.Passive points were limited and weak. Gears were difficult to come by. Crafting mechanics and crafting materials were non-existance. I as a player had no avenue to overcome the challenge but to physically dodge the boss's mechanics.It's also the reason why theres a jarring difference between Act (Mechanically skill heavy) and End-game mapping (Intellectuall Heavy) where in acts you have to play Dark-souls-lite and in End game mapping youve complete building your character so strong that literally everything is trivialized (Just look at LA Deadeye).The game has a identity crisis, in a paradox and following a false vision. This balance tips widly at different stages of the game, creating entirely different types of gameplay that are still actively polarizing playerbase.At this moment, right outside of this sub, you can find 2 camps: 1 in zoom-zoom blasting map, 1 in "meaningful combat".And paradoxically enough, both are not happy with Path of Exile 2.Also, yes, I am very autistic.
>horror used to be worth like 3-4 divs>18 exessences are pure shit to spec into outside day 1-2sad
this game is FUCKING TRASH!!!
>>550575837Addendum:Chris' problem is that he doesn't understand player economies. He probably genuinely thought that people would randomly stumble upon a headhunter rather than buy it off the market. That people would use whatever they find and rarely trade rather than go for established builds. That people would gamble harvest on their own stuff rather than sell crafts on TFT. Chris never really understood how people play his game. Just look at the trade manifesto
>>550575837>onathan doesn't have that specific autism and never does anything that could possibly make the players stronger than intendedMonk? Gemling? Archmage? Temporalis? Deepest Tower? Constricting command? Raging spirits? Tecrod?
>>550575837>Expeditiongood league>ruthlesstubbed>harvestgood league
>>550575487ok keep playing your girly femboy stinky fart build that presses 1 button and dies all the time and then quit the game
>>550576221>Chris' problem is that he doesn't understand player economies.lol. ok i get it, you are just a low iq retard.
how far along are we on the over sacale
>>550575837>and never does anything that could possibly make the players stronger than intendedDude, just remember that they added a specific mechanic that prevents you from permafreezing or oneshotting the bosses>players should fight for 14 seconds>players kill it instantly>ok, fuck it, not it's just not going to die
reminder that all Ruthless haters are wrong and clueless zoomersRuthless is fun in the classic ARPG way, how it should be, wouldn't even touch PoE without it
>>550576802ehh it is a knowledge check and willingness to grind more then anything. i am currently in t15 maps and while it is much slower i dont find it more fun just different fun
does anyone know if touching the lava on that boss that fills a long corridor with lava means insta death? I died to that boss in maps, in literally 0.2 seconds (capped resistance and very tanky against ele damage as a smith of kitava). I'm reading on reddit that fire damage is bugged and does retardo damageI can't test it because my atlas looks different on softcore so the map isn't even there anymore
>>550577080I find it way more fun getting there than in standard where you're spoonfed everything like a baby
poop a new thread already
>>550575848"Get the fuck out of MY game" zizaran is having a melty?
>>550576245didnt expedition nerf literally everything? didn't it permanently kill like 80% of all builds? I wasn't playing back then
>>550577242I'm fairly certain it is just so many damage instances at once that it is guaranteed death. I lost my first hc character of the league to it in campaign due to the lava path continuing to move while I was latency paused lol. But I think it is more so many hits/degen at once rather then a instant death mechanic because my health dropped massively then I died.
>>550577489Somebody was rage baiting him with minus max resistance being the same as less resistance and he was biting the bait hard. Him telling people that they shouldn't drink and chat was also funny. Imam Zizarian.But him calling people fucking retards was genuinely funny.
>>550543770Poo 2? Yeah it's over. Biiiiiiiiiiig stink.
how hard was it to make spark light up like other skills do when you have a infusion it can use
>>550577701Probably not very, it's just 1 copy pasted vfx after all
>>550577641I remember he had one guy talk about killing himself a while back and he dm'd him after seeing if he was alright and the guy just said something like "oh I was just drinking it's fine" kek
>>550577917developer must of taken a shit and forgot to do it
pants are full, we need a new pair
>>550578062please sar it's EARLY ACCESS (1 year in btw) you can't expect them to deliver anything that resembles a finished product sar, understand, do the needful and buyings a supporterings pack
>>550578548jonathan the dookie
>>550577641AHAHAHAHA another peak moment from my favorite e-grifter better donate some more
post ziz melty please
>>550578651I bought TWO (2) of the 60 dollar ones and I can't even not crash every 30 minutes, or have the most low effort shit fixedI was so willing to let them cook, I thought maybe the smell would go away or I just wasn't fully appreciating the aroma but as the days go on I come closer to accepting maybe they are actually just cooking shit. Maybe the idea is that if they make me wait long enough, I'll forget what not smelling shit is even like, and that I'll be so hungry to not even care.
>>550577554if it's many damage instances at once I should be more tanky against it because I have like 120% of armour against fire damage as wellit's so fucking annoying that my atlas is different in softcore so I can't even test it againfuck jonathan
>>550578793https://www.twitch.tv/zizaran/clip/RepleteEphemeralFishLeeroyJenkins-yMUswMxJwZULAe0r
>>550579071ohhhhh that a good melty yes
>>550579071yikes
>>550579071Fakin hell ziz is his wife not letting him dunk? Jesus
>currency tab in d2wtf
there are so many anti-melee mechanics in this game its insanejust thinking about playing ranger while having to sit out while the boss spams his 10th aoe attack in a row with red shit on the floor near him so i cant even reach him without taking damage, these devs clearly just fucking love ranged combat
what's the lord of the wilds tech people are making use of? i tried a 75% spirit sceptre and it still raped my spirit and made everything cost so much it was unusable. i see some people running it + wolf pack and the new lineage gems on it, but how? weapon swap?
>>550579385>>550579385>>550579385>>550579385>>550579385new map
poo2 should've been a spin off with an entirely different design team and been even more different, and in third person. Then jonathan could've sprayed dookie all over as he pleased
>>550579285yep, I played deadeye in 0.1, skipped 0.2, crossbow tactician in 0.3 and now finally titan slammer in 0.4. It's night and day. Let's just say thank fucking god Hammer of the Gods hits for 75% of boss HP or else I would've quit by now. The Hinekora Monkey in Act 4 is just absurd when you're melee with subpar dmg, think I've died 7 times attempting it
Every class buffed
Every class nerfed.
>>550574940False dichotomy. There's is literally no scientific evidence pointing to reaction time and general intelligence being mutually exclusive. In fact the opposite is true, coordination, athletic ability, hand eye coordination etc, are all highly correlated with general intelligence
