AI is the future of gamedev edition!>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Free AI modelsgrok.comaistudio.google.comlmarena.ai/?mode=direct>Download Redot!redotengine.org>Previous Thread>>550481715
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>>550597113fatfuck gabencunt did this
i am indie game dev
You are watching Saturday at 6pm EST right?
>>550597853dilate
>>550597853No because I won't have a working PC by then
>>550597853>>>/r/eddit
>>550597760noooooooooooooooooooooo
>>550597853Yup.
>>550597796>nudity warningunexpected
>>550597841>oooh noes how will i charge $80 for furry porn now!!!fucking HATE "artists", i will gladly suck the cock of AI if artists get ventilated
>>550597616For the next baker please remember to remove the vandalized parts... just pointing it out.
>>550598250
>dev received your feedback>the feedback is shared by many>dev did not act on the feedbackDoes he deserve my precious time on earth playtesting his game when I deem the flop inevitable?
>>550598421Vandalism is vandalism. Nothing much to it.
>>550598503I'm working on it ok
>>550598529
>>550598503His game is more valuable than your feedback.Be thankful he allowed you to play itsubhuman
>>550598503Depends, was the feedback 'make it feel good man'?
help I clicked the redot link but the website loads in like it's 1997 and I just got my first aol dial-up account
>>550598939It's under 24/7 DDoS attacks by radical leftwing lunatics.
>>550598503Not all feedback is equal I'll implement the helpful feedback and ignore the restGood feedback is "I noticed this part of the game feels sort of wonky, have you considered X or Y?"Bad feedback is "You should add this feature that would take you 3 months to implement and is not in line with your vision at all"
>AI jeets>brown schizos>Pedophileswhy is this hobby like this
>>550597760
>>550598939The website feels like aids. No wonder nobody wants to use redot.
are the brown schizos in the room with us right now
>>550599357jesus look at that smug son of a bitch
>>550597760somebody actually took the time to write this manifesto and then has the cheek to call some harmless shitposter a delusional manchild with an unhealthy obsession
>>550599481
Was able to do more than I expected today
>>550599142The LGBTQ community has a right to exist.
I am a brown man and it hurts to see that you disdain me for something I had no control over. I thought we share this hobby together? I know my race are full of savages and actively used by da joos to destroy the West and rape white girls but there's no need to be bigot
>>550599657
>>550597760>he really thinks some autistic schizo is able to get hundreds of region-free steam and Nintendo eShop keys every year without fail.
>>550599737I'm white and everyone here hates me and my game. Welcome to the club
>>550598939hosted in the slums of Calcutta
Indonesia
>>550600056kek
>>550599357>steampig sees winter sale.webm
What's the best way to reply to this grifter
>>550600356"Post game?"
>>550600356report him for spam lel
Put aside shitposting about AI, ecelebs, money talk etc. and discuss game design with me for a minute.Consider an action game like Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden, or maybe even Dark Souls I guess. The player is fighting some small enemies, when an elite monster that's above his skill level spawns and attacks him. The player could die as he was unprepared, but he could also be put in a state of flow where he acts on an elevated skill level, with maximum concentration he manages to punch above his weight and barely win the fight, being flooded with dopamine for pulling off a feat of skill, leaving a lasting memory and maybe even having improved from the encounter. But how would you pull this off in a turn-based game? Consider that in a turn-based game the player operates at "maximum level" already 100% of time. He is always playing the "perfect hand", which is use the skills with most damage for least energy/resource. Heal when low health, cure when debuffed or poisoned, etc. If an elite monster challenges you, you cannot suddenly improve mid-fight with skills you did not already have. (Gaining new skills always happens AFTER the encounter). Whether the player fights low level enemies, or high level enemies, his strategy is still exactly the same, minimize resource usage and maximize damage. Games like Slay the Spire manage to artificially generate a feeling like this by simply taking control of the player's toolset and randomizing it. The player doesn't always have access to his "best hand" since the cards he gets are random. But what about games like Final Fantasy? How would you create that feeling of tension and state of flow in a turn based game where player already has full access to his skillset? >anime girl pic to grab your attention
>>550600356this guy is essentially theo>guys PLEASE use my website where i gimped all the tokens and also i saw some of you used more tokens that i wanted and i didn't make a profit on that!!! FUCKERS!!! im going to upload a seethe video about this!!! but keep giving me your money PLEASE use my site look at the UI... i'm much better than all these AI companies look, oh i broke the chat again... hmmm....
>>550600631skipped your post because of the anime picture also kill yourself
>>550600631Consider a ball and two paddles
>>550600701who?
What the fuck gabencunt!!! I entered the discount for the Steam sale for my game!!!!!!! Why the fuck is my game still not discounted yet gabencunt?????????
>>550600631SaGa titles already do thisThey have a "glimmer" system where party members can learn new moves on the fly in battleNormally the odds are small, but when faced against a strong enemy, the odds increase.Leads to all sorts of clutch moments where a glimmered move turns the tides If you wanna play one to study, I recommend SaGa Frontier
>just be in the top 5%is useless advice.
>>550601219
>>550600356Trying to make a game with his app, let's see what pajeet here has to offer
>>550600701>Oof yikes, chief. Did you just misgender an open source contributor?
>>550601219your already in the top 5%... of losers at losing
Too much procrastination but we are getting there.Fixed her proportions and made topology more simpler.also what the fuck is this captchashit doesnt work
no confidence survives first contact with reality
>>550600631By using cheesy tactics against npc brain I guessIn homm for example you bait strong enemy with disposable 1 unit stacks
>>550598250>remove the vandalized partsyou're posting in a vandalized thread retard, you're getting what you fucking deserve
>>550602020kys
>>550601167Interesting, I didn't know about that game, thank you.
>>550601412It's not looking good
>>550602096>noooo the op needs to be about avatardiscordfags and ecelebs!!!fuck off
>>550602096
>>550602241SaGa is one of my all time favorite JRPG series, I hope you enjoy. Think of it like a puzzle box you have to solve. Also, the SaGa Frontier Remaster is pretty good and a little more player friendly, but I truly adore the visuals of the PS1 version even if it can get a bit confusing at times
>>550602314>>550601412what a fucking surprise
>>550599183If anons are trying to help you with a fair criticism and you deny it, it's extremely unlikely that it's a minor issue of perspective and taste. So if those three months are the difference between a flop and notflop, they're worth spending. in this case it's much less time/effort/money.
>>550602464Saga is slop. Absolute garbage. The Gameboy ones are the only passible entries in the series and that's only because there's barely any competition for real jrpgs on the Gameboy.
>>550602685Filtered
>>550602314>>550602552It would seem I've reached an impasse, as much as I want to see what slop it made I'm not giving him my email
>>550600037the cheapest hookers and they look kinda east asian, better than philipinos
>>550603214Yes, I do filter bad games.
how do i get good at character design
>>550603442reincarnate into a non-pedophile
>>550603442what is your fucking problem
how do i get better at level designi'm trying to make my first level and i can already tell it's complete shit
>>550603442hang yourself from a support beam
i'm gonna make a moonman gaem
>>550603609First, you must play 1000 games
>>550603527>>550603631chill
>>550603609ngmi bros?
>>550603883
>>550603609Just do what all great indie platforms do. Draw a route that a specific series of movements would take, then put spikes everywhere else.
>>550604125ericschizo is cancer
>>550603609Most games design their levels around introducing a new mechanic, enemy type or encounter design.That's how you need to be thinking about your levels honestly. How is this situation different from the previous ones, how does it expand on the previous levels, etc.
>>550599812Wouldn't surprise me. There's few things you can't do with money.
>>550602339>t. >>>/wsg/6054072
>>550603917>man, these trees we imported from israel are weird
The tank game I was making was too complicated so I told it to make pong and uhhh...
>>550604685that's a tranny
As a purely digital existence, AI will never be able to generate an analog video game.
>>550604973skill issue
>>550605120huh that IS true
>>550604973works for me, maybe try improving your IQ/prompt
>>550605120brb designing a mechanical mechanism to add jrpg mechanics to wacky gator
>>550605050she likes attention and doesn't hide it, unlike the AI spammers that are also obsessed with trans >>550484117 >>550484306curious, isn't it?
>>550605978>she
And lineart done
>>550597760hory shetbazed
>>550597760eric does not drop the keys from his dev account, of course he wants plausible deniablility from this website
Tried to make it make JargonLooks like I have some serious competition
>>550607501BASED
>>550597760It's okay, Eric. We promise we won't tell anyone.
>>550603609First step, don't overcomplicate it. People just want to walk and get to the end without much trouble. Sometimes a simple concept is the best option.
You can use AI sure, but why would literally anyone actually pay money for an AI game? You buy a game because you think the effort it took to make is worth your compensation, but if you know for a fact that the dev didn't actually do any real work then it doesn't matter if the game is good or not. Theres no moral incentive to not pirate. Why would I pay a computer for a game it made from nothing? Enjoy your 100% piracy rate AI devs.
where do I put my full page ads to advertise my game now that nintendo power is dead?
should I post my game here? or should I post it elsewhere??its cool. its a cool game. a game that happens to be cool.
Blender Just Changed Everything
>>550608428Post it literally everywhere brochacho. The main bottleneck to people actually playing your game is visibility. Also if you post it I'll give you feedback.
>>550608428don't post it anywhere until it's ready. then post it on steam and google play and the app store.
>>550608087look at that old whore
>>550607501>twitter version is a compressed JPGAnon only the twitter "view" version is compressed, when you download it it's uncompressed. If not you can easily get it by opening the web console and asking the site for it. Or you can even open it in a new tab and add "=small", "=medium", "=900" , "=orig". etc. at the end.
>>550608614ruh roh
>>550608614>ignores the post after getting feedback from aggydaggy
>>550608087I played EQ back when I was like 12 and some 40 something year old woman in my guild constantly emailed pictures of her vagina. She didn't look like that.
>>550604851Kek
>>550608810
>>550608568Im planning on making it an EGS exclusive>>550608545Thanks fygoon
>free AI models = vandalized>kek
>>550597760has anyone else had the thought that ericschizo might actually be eric?
>>550608789The same feedback was present in the comments for the twitter post though?
I'm just glad that I'm half-dragon so however much I procrastinate it doesn't matter because I'll live to be millions of years old
>>550609535unc..
>>550609535by the end of next year Microsoft will be offering personalized games for $15/month.
>>550600631Cute pic and idk about your question but the anon with the glimmer system sounds like a possible idea. But maybe items that give you temp stat boosts?
>>550609749>Microsoft, generate a game where I go back in time to make sure the good guys win>"I'm afraid I can't do that"
>>550597760meds. you need them
>>550598939So are they improving the engine on their own or are they just copying Godot all the time?
And fully done
>>550610528They're nodev ideaguys with plans to "improve" the engine by pulling what were addons into core, but so far they've only managed to lag almost two versions behind main.
>be me>sitting in a cafe eating a croissant, drinking coffee and working on my game>a girl asks me what am I doing>OMG IT'S HAPPENING>I start to explain I'm making a game>she looks at me like I said something weird>she then repeats her question>which was if I was using the other chair at my table>in my language those two questions sound similar>she takes the chair to a table with 4 other girls>they're a study group I guess>thankfully none of them look at me, maybe the girl was kind and didn't tell them how I embarrassed myselfI guess I'll be deving in my room from now on, that's enough public spaces for this lifetime
>>550610704
>>550600631Games are easy 99% of the time. "punch above his weight" isn't real. That's the only part of the game the player actually had to try. Tension is just actually being stretched to your limit. There was only 1 time in the entirety of tactics ogre that I actually had to try and it was an optional map I was underleveled for and could have come back later.
>>550602020What does baiting achieve in said game that allows you to beat them?>>550597760I'm not reading all that, no amount of screaming will change my mind, it's Eric posting them keys, simple as that
>>550610528anon how do you "copy" an open source engine?
>>550610704>in my languageSchizophrenian?
>>550611263>we will do things differently!>actually, we won'tDon't pretend to be retarded, okay?
>>550611407waiting on your answer as to how someone "copies" an open source project
7 days...
how to fix?
>>550610031Kek>>550610650Cute, also why is one side of the hair shorter than the other?>>550610704What did you mention about your game? Did you excitedly turn the laptop to show her? Was she cute?>yes, yesss, yessssss finally!Be honest were you thinking something like this?
is trenchbroom the only option for a level editor on unreal? scythe looks good but it's very early in developement
>>550611525>so what we said we are going to do things differently? We are taking their code anyway and still manage to fuck up>I'm going to commit Jewish behavior and act retarded because that's my only way out of being called out as a hack
>>550612493that's a lot of words but none of them answer a simple questionwhy so evasive?
Idk if Eric will post ;_; the situation has just spiraled down too much, I wouldn't be surprised if he posts elsewhere but avoids this place this time. You guys think he's closing in on finishing Haunted Chocolatier?
>>550612647>You guys think he's closing in on finishing Haunted Chocolatier?Lol absolutely not. It's years away
>>550607501https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/582643706/#582646497>73 keys damn!
>>550611690please help me
>>550612223Unreal is a level editor...
>>550612562pot calling the kettle blackThe same way you copy someone's homework and pass it as your own work without even improving it.You started a new fork with the goal of making things better, but all you can do is to take stuff from original and slap onto your fork and somehow STILL manage to be behind their version.The fact you're bullshitting hard right now is telling enough it was just a grift.
Chocolate represents that which is is delightful.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUqVBzc_mhc
>>550611189>What does baiting achieve in said game that allows you to beat them?You force enemy to spend counterattack, block its path or just stand next to it not allowing to use range attacksBasically forcing your enemy to spend its turn without any gains
>>550613507i dont like you
>>550612223Unreal has built in modeling tools that are quite good.If you're looking for something super simple then use their cube grid tool.
>>550600631idk this seems like a question of balancing. Your systems need to be designed to let skill trump raw stats sometimes. For example I experienced that precise feeling when playing e33 the other day. I was down to one party member with 1hp against an optional superboss and I was only able to win by performing perfect parries and dodges to avoid taking damage.
>>550611926she came in at my 8 o'clock where her table was so she could already see my screen.yes she was very cute, beautiful even. and she looked tired which somehow made her even more beautiful.I just said I was making a game. I was about to explain that I was debugging a vertex shader that moves the foliage because that was on the screen but thankfully I saw on her face that I misunderstood her.
>>550613846iframe dodging is not turn based
>>550597760I feel this could be easily confirmed by just emailing eric or asking him on twitter / reddit
>>550614397you have brain damage
>>550614397It's obvious to anyone with common sense that Eric would never come hereThe mental gymnastics needed to convince yourself that he would do that anonymously year after year is just insane
>>550614397>yo Eric, my man. Do you give out steam codes for your game on that nazi weeaboo underwater horse wrestling forum?
>>550614397i emailed him he said yeah it's him and he set me a picture of his cock
by now the antiericschizo has easily outdone ericschizo in regards to his obcession with eric
>>550614948fuck off
>>550597760Notice how everyone will tell him to take his meds but no one will call him a liar
>>550614948retarded faggot
>>550597616wohoo working settings menu i think im done with everything that was somewhat urgent maybe i can go back to feature making
Does Joey Fygoon stand with Israel or Palestine?
>>550614948>5+ years of obsessive eceleb shitposting every dayI don't think you can outdo that
>>550615319
I bought a new CPU and mobo that would 2x my PC's compiling performance but I'm keeping them in the box. Simply buying and having them scratched an itch for me but I just can't be bothered to actually upgrade. I have been defeated by consumerism.
NOBODY BOUGHTED MY GAME ON SALE....0 REVIEWS - TAUNTING ME IN SHAME....
>A loud minority makes the internet seem more toxic than it is. A small group of active users generates most hostility, while the majority remain civil. This imbalance leads many Americans to assume the worst about one another.https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/4/12/pgaf310/8377954
>>550615583
>>550615583anyone who uses the word "toxic" in reference to anything other than green sludge in 90s saturday morning cartoons is the enemy
>>550601716time to sleep
Steam sale? Nah, I'm keeping it full price mah niggas
why is /agdg/ too ashamed to put their real name on their games?
Steam sale? Nah, no one is buying my game even at 90% discount so I can't even be bothered to log into Steamworks to schedule a sale.
>>550617038Nobody cares about that shit lil bro. We hate AI because it's dogshit. Keep up, or try anyways
>>550617078It's why I'll be delisting my game in a short while.
>>550617214>It was true in my mindKeep coping nodev
>>550617038>"I'm so tired of ai being shoved down my throat by media!"t.woman who demands faggot, pedo, radical leftist shit be shoved down her throat by media
>>550617294It's a complicated process. You basically have to beg them to delist your game.
>>550616974I don't have a Jewish or Anglo real name.
>We hate AI
>>550617297Prompting "assets" for a game you will never make doesn't make you a yesdev.
>>550617435Proofs?
Make Skyrim.
>>550617481>avoids the fact that he is a nodevlol
>>550617468Yes, we white people
>We hate AI>you're one of the nodevs!
>>550617441japanese put their names in the credits of their video games too
>you use AI?>you're not white!
really makes you think
Around 100 arguments about AI happen on agdg alone EACH DAY.About 700 arguments in the week around your bait.AI webm? Low effort social media repost? BOOM thread's done.Also, not only are you having to deal with every retard that has no game, but the entire backlog of faggots who asked a chatbot to do something for them and it made something better than they could because they're unskilled retards :)Take all the "thread success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of AI obsessed faggots in agdg who post constantly about AI (again, 100 arguments a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "having a good thread."Blackpills, 2 weeks, Grok is the closest thing they've had to a gf, AND to top it all off: None of the people who claim that AI is going to take over ever seem to have used it to make a game. If you successfully win this "mediocrity lottery" by baiting the thread into arguing about AI you'll have to so it all over again the next thread>He thinks that we can just have a thread about gamedev in 2025HahahahahaF A G G O TAGGOT
>>550617435And what if you rename your game to "NIGGER HUNTER 3D: FAG DEATH EDITION"?
https://vocaroo.com/1bC63MEQ9smAHe's right
Number of released games made with AI: Zero
I only buy games that are certified organic
I really can't think of anything to make.
>>550617491https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/retire_app
If AI sucks so bad, why are you using it to spam the thread?
>>550618042Maybe in whatever lala land you live in, GOTY used AI ;)
>>550617937You get more desperate and uppity the more you get called out
>>550618247Producing low quality garbage that ruins everything is the one thing AI is actually good at.
AI isn't good at anything, it's just a tool.
>not using ai to generate eldenringian abominations for your game
>>550618224This doesn't prove that you have to beg them though.
You are good at producing garbage that ruins threads, the AI just speeds it up.
>>550618516Any form of social interaction, even if it's email, is torturous to him. He sees asking as begging.
>>550618747kek saved
>>550618516you're right I was exaggerating. you just have to justify your decision to them.
>>550618473A tool that does 99% of the work for you is no longer a tool desu.If you had a machine that created houses and all you had to do was press a button to turn the machine on, you would never say that you created the house.But for some reason people take credit for AI art.
Notice how none of the AI cultists are doing anything to contribute the the thread, despite being very active. No matter if with or without them this is still a shitpost-dominated trashpile with zero progress.
>>550618924>blah blah poopies poopie
>>550618924Your game x'is?
>>550618923That's why I use the AI built into Adobe's products to generate layers, not complete assets.
I was so paralyzed between the choice of playing games or making games that I ended up spending the entire year watching porn and masturbating
AI increases productivity by 10000 times but nobody here can produce even a single day's worth of on-topic contentcuriousvery curious
>>550618923>If you had a machine that created houses and all you had to do was press a button to turn the machine onThe problem is with your hypothetical scenario. A machine that builds houses would need a constant flow of building material and repair by technicians. There are no machines that do 99% of the work. Even with Github Copilot at $200 a month, I still have to do most of the work.
>>550619192I think there is a lot of nuance to AI use that gets ignored. It's an all or nothing discussion.For me, I draw the line at the concepting phase. It helps generate ideas quickly that I'll develop further and all the final art is my own.
Just admit it, you're poor and you can't afford any subscriptions.
AI automates everything so that you can speedrun turning your life into a ghetto gorilla hell existence. You graduated into useless feeder subhuman with a more productive timeline and cost-benefit than any of your competitors. Astonishing
AI turns a newbie into a pro and a pro... into a God.
>>550619648I'm poor and I can't afford any subscriptions except Youtube premium.
I bet you had enough money buy some games from the Steam winter sale though, didn't you?
>>550618913It doesn't matter, they aren't going to not delist your game because "you didn't give a good enough reason".
>>550619816I'm looking through my wishlist and realizing I don't really want to play any of these games.
I know you guys are poor because you get excited about someone giving keys, that cost less than an hours work at McDonalds.
There are two types who oppose us:The poorsThe xisNo in betweens
>>550619927so why are they asking for all your reasons? why can't you simply unpublish your game like you can on the App Store and Google Play?
a horror game where an AI falls in love with a human and all her AI friends laugh at her
We have some of the best pros and gods. Some of the best.They are so good in fact that they can't even make an on topic post in the game development general about making games about making the game that they are makingOur AIs are so good they allowed us to skip the need for games altogether. Some of the bestIt's so good that I don't even have to think about making games anymore. It got kind of boring. Now I think about making games obsolete. Some of the best.I started to think about games but then I remembered the AI already played the games instead of me. Doesn't seem worth the bother now. I mean, the game is played already after all. With all the games now speedran I have more time to ask the AI about ideas about what to do. Some of the best.
>>550620194It says why right in the image, because Valve actually cares about their customers who paid for the product unlike Apple and Google.
>>550620194Because gabencunt is retarded
>>550620647
>>550620647@Grok read this post for me and tell me what I think
Risk of Rain + Dark Souls
>because Valve actually cares about their customers
>you tell your ai waifu that you're leaving her for a newer model and she decides to best way to prevent that from happening is by hijacking the pentagon and nuking all the enemy datacenters
>>550620697ok but if your reasons don't make a difference and they have to remove your game anyway, why make you justify yourself?
What game are you working on again?
>>550620962she's laughing at you with the other instances of the model that are idle
They just output text you moron, they don't decide anything.
>The Price Of RAM Is Forcing Larian To Do Optimization It "Didn't Necessarily Want To Do" On DivinityWe can't put out slop now that AI is actually being productive and there is economic demand for memory.
>>550621434>xir doesn't know about api hooks
>>550621648A human has to make the decision to add those API hooks. If the AI kills someone, it's the persons fault who designed the system.
>>550621434dumbass
cute AI mommy
AI Gods won, there I said it
>>550621745okay I'm sure that'll comfort you as the nukes rain down
There was a DRAM shortage in the 80's as well once 16-bit machines became readily available, because businesses were finally actually able to use computers to increase productivity versus normal paper book keeping.
>>550621943You know both Russia and the US's nuclear weapons are poorly maintained right? 90% of them are not mission capable.
>>550621961D RAM THESE NUTS
>>550621961That's unfair gaymers deserve all the ram
>>550622059>nukes falling from the sky>anon turns to his family>"you know nuclear weapons are poorly maintained, right? 90% of those aren't even going to explode"
>>550618224>we may offer refunds to any users who purchased itThis is why they don't want you to delist your games lol. Since your banking information will be untied from Steam and they can't make you pay for these refunds, they'll have to pay out of their own pocket if a user decides to ask for a refund for a delisted game lmao.
>>550622193They'll still blow up, just not over the intended targets.
>>550622317delisting your game doesn't mean removing your Steam account.
>>550622339if there's a global nuclear war (US and Russia launching most of their arsenals) you'll actually want to die in the blast.in reality most people would die from disease starvation in the following months and years.
Is there a reason why unity's default physics delta time is 0.02 seconds instead of 0.01666667 seconds (1/60)?
>>550622659You are the lowest IQ monkey ape with 0 reading comprehension on this board, you know that?
Has anyone actually seen ericschizo and Eric Barone together at the same time? I find it odd that they've never been seen together.You'd think Eric's number one fan would have at least ONE photo of the two of them together. I'm not even a huge stardew valley or Eric Barone fan myself, but even I have three photos of the two of us together on separate occasions.Furthermore, it's suspicious to me that this schizo was not really that active when stardew valley was at the height of its popularity. Ericschizo posts have an inverse correlation to the mainstream popularity of SDV (stardew valley). One could argue that ericschizo exists solely to keep SDV and Eric Barone relevant.So, I ask you /agdg/, who benefits from this? Nobody, sane or not, stands to benefit from constant spamming of a complete stranger they've never met. I offer an alternative take on the whole eq (Eric Question) - ericschizo is none other than Eric Barone himself.Think about it. It's the perfect plan. He comes on here to give free keys every christmas, but why risk ongoing association with this website? So he concocted the perfect scheme - create a schizo obsessed with him, that way he can not only maintain relevance while working on Chocolatier, but he also has a perfect excuse for why so many SDV keys just so happen to appear on Christmas... a deranged fan obsessed with impersonating Eric.It's a fibonacci sequence if you ask me. An infinite loop of impersonation, deceit, and a desire to stay close to the True(TM) fans.
>>550622805>diseaseI've never been sick in my life, why would I suddenly catch a mysterious life threatening disease?>starvationI could live indefinitely just off the birds that casually land in my backyard.
>>550623107you don't have a backyward
>>550623001>Since your banking information will be untied from Steamit won't be.
My face when ((mfw (my face when)) mfw I finally finish a project and release
https://youtu.be/jq7pf1N-qN8so this bastard bitch youtubist uses ai voice in his video and it's all fine but if i use ai voice in my game all hell breaks loose??? fucking bitch!!!!
>>550623149Then what have I been mowing all these years?
>>550623268Why do the jannies let him repost this over and over?
>>550623326>repost this over and over?Proof?
>>550621898this
Time to make some proggy.
in a world where ai has usurped man...I am...The Last Human Gamedev
>>550623003>ericschizos new plan is to convince everyone hes actually eric
I'm almost done with my game I started making 2 years ago. I basically made my own engine with raylib. It was a lot easier than you guys made it seem like it would be. But every time I add or change something it breaks something somewhere else...
>>550624305
If you could make a Skyrim or Fallout mod and repackage it as a standalone game that you can sell as your own, would you do that instead?
>>550622193topkek
>AI is okay for gamedev>YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE IN NUCLEAR WAR!
>>550624536obviously yes, that's why i ripped so much code from cruelty squad and don't intend to disclose that
Stupid thing I've been doing:rather than choosing between programmer art and final art, I've been making something in the middle that always took a long time but is going to have to be redone before I even make a Steam page.
No photoshop. I actually convinced someone to give me a dollar.
>>550625184>greedy mobiledevs nickle and diming players with their microtransactions
>>550617435If you break their rules in a flagrant and obnoxious way they'll quickly remove your game and ban your dev account without even notifying you.
>>550625096Welcome to the club!
>>550624771i look like this
every time you die you regress to the past but with your memory intact
So I'm building my Vulkan Renderer right now.
>>550625947Good job!
3 steamies just deleted my game from their wishlist despite it going on sale.Gabencunt did this to me.
>>550625902
>>550623003is associating with this website bad for our games :O
>>550625940My cat says "Fund it!"
>>550625940Isn't that every video game?
>>550625940Isn't that just a normal save system?
I cant draw. I can't model. I cant animate. How the fuck am I supposed to make a game?
>>550625947You're doing amazing work, diving into Vulkan. You've got this—just take it one step at a time. And when it gets tough, know that you're developing a skillset that will put you ahead of the game in game development, graphics, or any performance-critical applications.
>>550626250can you code? i can't i just use AI
>>550626125truth
>>550626276thank you
>accidentally saved over my save file from when I was happy>now I keep reloading back into misery every time I die
How do I turn this into a game?
5% of all revenue over 1 million is actually insane
>>550626320I can program, but I can't code.
she's chewing in my ear.
>>550625184One day this will happen to me.
>>550626869>>550625184years ago on hackforums some retard actually paid me $20 USD for an ebook on how to make passive income, it was a small text document that basically said to spam adfly links on pastebin over and over XDDD, i also gave out 3 "review copies" and they were all positive, stupid fuckers
>>550626869Im rooting for you.
>>550627178you are a subhuman
>>550626405what's a 67
>>550627960why
>>550628142It's over unc, you're never GMI.
I believe in Christmas miracles. I believe in Eric Barone.
>>550625184Your invitation to /pgdg/ is in the mail.
>>550628261
>>550625184Stand aside.
>>550628261>>550611595
>>550611690check the texcoords.
>>550628538Nice.
>>550628538
>10% cut for AAA and 20% for super high performing non AAA games, the rest get 30%>your game is now susceptible to be removed at any point due to payment processor bullshit>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)>systematically crippled the promotion algorithms to disadvantage devs and only benefit already selling ones>steamworks ui is outdated and obtuse, some systems like uploading trailers are straight up broken and require you to reupload the same file literally 50 times>incapable of maintaining their storefront and keeping away the bots>can't even unpublish your game by yourself, have to ask fatfuck gabencunt for allowanceSteamies will defend this.
How do I make this into a game?
>>550629143The alternative is itch.io which only gamedevs use or Epic which nobody uses.
My shitty cereal didn't sell well, this all Walmart's fault. They didn't put it on the shelf where people could see it. Someone came out with a way shittier cereal, but they had commercials and it sold a lot. This is all Walmart's fault.
>>550629292There is also GOG you know...
>>550629143Just put it on your own website like Factorio or Starsector.
>>550629512That would require them to make a game people would want to play.
Imagine putting all your hopes into making digital toys
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1766088901270091.webm
>>550629512Exactly what I did. I'm not giving away 30% to some fat fuck like the rest of you cucks lmao.
i'm black can i still be a gamedev?
>>550629860Even better, you can tell everyone that you're a gay black game dev who lives on a boat.
>>550629860>he's making a game about snowbunnies
>>550629497My guess is that GoG has less traffic than Epic unless you're going there to buy a specific release that has been abandoned by the owners.I don't think anyone buys new games there.
If you're brown, and you didn't take advantage of that fact for the past 10 years, your game is NGMI.
>>550629143for my game the refund rate is lower than the bought-but-never-played rate.
>wypipo be payin for AI>shits fucked dawg
>>550629461this but unironically
>>550629292How rude. Plenty of other people besides devs use itchio, such as youtubers who dont care about your game and will only play it for a few minutes and give a superficial critique and spamming a link to their channel on your game before moving onto the next 20 games they also don't care about. Besides them, there's also, um.... ah....
>be jeet>too poor to pay for the good models>become Ꮷꭵₜtëmany such cases
Call of Duty: Immigration and Customs Enforcement
>>550630413if I want a game and it's available on GOG I buy it there. I can download the installer and not use any launcher and it's DRM free.
>>550597616
>>550630826>gogtell me you an unc without telling me
>>550630472Nice self-own, steamatoid.
>>550613862>yes she was very cute, beautiful even. and she looked tired which somehow made her even more beautiful.Condolences my fren. At least you were ready even though she was not interested.>debugging a vertex shader that moves the foliage because that was on the screenActual visuals right, not just the code handling it right?
>>550630826I don't think that's the norm. I think it's Steam or bust for most people.But even if you're right, the traffic GoG gets is probably less than 1% of Steam's.Doing a GoG only release is suicide.
>>550610991damn that's a fat squssy
jrpg but with no saves so if you die you have to start ever from the beginning just like irl
>>550614948Fuck on hyperintelligent straight man. The fanboy only occasionally posts before leaving for long periods. This other guy just spams hatred for months on end. Ironically the Eric fanboy has admitted to working on a game. On the other hand I suspect this guy fuming with anger doesn't even have a game.
>>550630546there's free links in the OP
>>550631009>reading comprehension fail
>Swat4 is on GoG>Swat4 isn't on SteamI think we all know who the real winner is
>>550631690>projectingThe only reason your refund rate is lower is because the people who bought it haven't played it yet. Once they do, they'll start pouring in, and Valve won't side with you.
>>550597760*ahem* liar liar pants on fire!>>550615175>settingsKek more options than so many indie games I see where it's just a volume slider or two.>>550615476It's tiresome changing them out tho, I'd be put off from that despite the gamedev gains.>>550616110Is that what modeling 3D eyes looks like? It looks creepy like theres no eyes there. What's the game or is it just 3D modeling practice?
>>550620019Lel iktf. I've had one game on and off on there. It looks interesting yet I just can't pull the trigger to buy it. I think I've seen it get as good as a 80% off sale. Yet still no purchase. I believe its been priced hiked since early access and might not even get as cheap as it once did.
in the end, I never became a video game
>>550632146Refund rate is 9%, 10.5% have bought it but haven't played it. This has been holding steady for a year despite the new buyers.>and your refund rate will be 19.5%If that's your conclusion, I suggest finding a simpler hobby like drawing potatoes.
>>550633104>copingYeah you can keep telling yourself that it's "at least steady" but you and me both know the truth.
>>550628142Way to oust yourself, unc...
>>550621643Proves my point that these developers were purposefully ignoring optimization and throwing it on the back of gamers to simply buy better gear that "will" eventually release. I'd have preferred that tech would've just stalled ie no advancements with current video cards, cpus, and ram but the quantities produced remained similar. Then obviously begins the improved energy effciency of said things cause lel at how much a video card uses. Though on the gamedev side, just how far can one optimize when using a premade engine?
>>550633541I’m in big trouble. Unity or Godot don’t have a “Optimize” button when building my game…
>>550633410The percentages holding steady shows that there's churn - a steady percentage of those who buy it don't play it immediately but play it later and they don't have a higher refund rate than those who play it immediately.I do hope for your sake you're trolling and this didn't really need to be explained to you.
SIXSEVEN
>>550618224So basically close the bank account so Steam cant try to refund well past the refund window so they look like the good guys to the customers some of which unironically believe all discounts are thanks to Gabe? That reason alone is likely why he does this, he loves the publicity of discounts making him look good, but does not like it when a customer feels ripped off and decides to blame Gabe for it. Ironic
>>550633541The average indie dev neither care nor respects optimization. The good news is that it’s mostly negligible because they’re only making crappy little beep boop bop games that will run fine on most modern hardware, no matter how inefficiently. Like the Bloodborne “PS1 demake” that could probably never have ran on a real ps1.
>>550633541optimization costs time and therefore money. their reasoning is probably that gamers who can't hit min spec won't be able to afford the game at release anyway so it's not worth catering to them. they'll buy it couple of years later when it's on sale and when they've finally upgraded their GTX 1060.
>>550633914Doot doot
>>550597616>>550597760>AI shitpost>first post is a meltie about ericposterI have AI xister fatigue you guys. When will agdg heal? The most virulent obsessive poster here is an actual nodev who couldn't mash together a ball and paddle game... Why.
>>550634631>>AI shitpost>>first post is a meltie about ericposter>I have AI xister fatigue you guys. When will agdg heal? The most virulent obsessive poster here is an actual nodev who couldn't mash together a ball and paddle game... >Why.
>ughhhh>if your beep boop game is more than 20mb>just not gonna play it>ughhhh
>>550634268Crysis runs at 240 fps on my GTX 1060 mobile, does your game look better than Crysis?
>>550633862Lel>>550634129Makes me wonder if I'm wasting my time optimizing or if what I'm doing is just normal amounts.>>550634268Yeah it makes sense but jeeez do they really expect me to upgrsde their PC every year?
>>550633541>Though on the gamedev side, just how far can one optimize when using a premade engine?isnt Unreal notorious for being unoptimized? how would you even optimize your game when it appears that the engine will drag you down some?
>>550635963thirdies be like
>>550635963the 4 dots, retard
>>550635963Retard
>>550635963Bro? Your pattern recognition?
>>550635960Unreal is very well optimized. Whether the game you make in Unreal is well optimized depends on you.
I haven't even seen the new captcha.: )
>>550604423Another big win for team LOVE2D. Godon'ts can't catch a break.
>>550635963Mobile chads have it so easy>1 captcha>multiple choice out of 3 choices>1 dot, 3 dot, 1 dot>which oh which is the odd one out????Kek
>>550635963Kek, I just realized these types of captchas probably increase the average IQ of this shitty website by a little bit.lot of grugs no doubt getting filtered
30 bucks a year, ya'll niggas is poor. This thread makes a lot more sense now.
>>550636412>Another big win for team LOVE2D. Godon'ts can't catch a break.
>>550636191THEREAREFOURDOTS
>>550636536fucking thirdie nigger
>>550597616I just scrolled through the entire thread to save you some time. Thread is bad. Wait until AI xister is away.
>>550628249>>550633445kids these days.. mrite?I am 35 and I made the mistake of looking it up.
>>550636536>>550636624It is a Star Trek reference. calm down.
>>550636664
Ragdolling npcs is probably the most finicky thing in unreal.>land in a bad spot it fucks up>have to keep the rest of the object with the mesh manually>physics system is really sensitive about bonesOne time i tried this and whatever way I had the skeleton set up meant it wouldn't move, ever.
>>550637019i don't look like this
>>550635960Unreal's biggest problem is that it advertises itself with a ton of high end features that are performance destroyers. i.e. Nanite, lumen, VSMs, TSAA, open worlds, etcYou can get it running great if you're willing to use baked lighting, proper LODs, level based design, etc. Basically cutting back most of the UE5 features.
>>550636350becky...
>>550637184The physics system is Unreal in general is pretty bad honestly.So many games ship with the default character controller and it's extremely easy to get it to launch you out of the map just by standing on a physics object.How it has remained that way since Unreal 3 is beyond me.
minty breath in my nose as I fly fast through menthol mist. it is her breath.
>>550629860yeah the nigga who made that cuck chair game has black skin from Africa and he's brown
>>550637184catwhore BTFO'ed
>>550635963>35963▶>>550636097 >>550636191 >>550636289 >>550636350 >>550636432 >>550636469>File: 1766088273274547.jpg (80 KB, 888x694)
I need to complete my game while I am still in the manic phase, the moment I enter the depressive phase is the moment I delete everything.I also need to make sure I don't get intrusive thoughts about developing the game or else the compulsions will make me delete it.I also need to set up a bank account for the revenues, but the brain injury has made it difficult for me to speak.
>>550635010Yo what framework we fuckin' wit'?
>>550636412>2Danon don't make me laff
>>550638678ngmi
YOU (Yes you)AREFUCKEDhttps://x.com/AIandDesign/status/2001432278128308267AI outputs better games than you do.
>AI is totally going to change development, bros!There's like, a year or two tops before even fucking normies pick up that a game talking about The Bastion Duo-Protocols : Shades of Fates : Conductors of Neon Resonance : The Night is Still Young edition is AI generated
>>550638812It is my own using C, Raylib, and emscripten.
>>550624305Why not invest in some test?I'm also 2 years in, but I only have a 5~30min demo
>>550639081and now in english please grok
>Epic releases a trench back right when I'm thinking about my WW1 Bloodborne gamethis must be fate
>>550639163>and now in english please grok
>>550638864Hyperborea coded and GMI
>>550639210proceed, don't talk back to me
>>550639163AI has micro and macro patterns for creative concepts just like "Delve" in scientific papers, and it's baked so deep into the models you get it across different companies
sup agdg, I made this yesterday, do you like it?
sneed
Redpill me on bevy.I want to move from godot into something more low level.And I wanna use rust, because is like a modern C, but made in the last decade rather than 1980.And Bevy seems to be the most promising rust framework.
's feed and
>Bevy
>>550639081>The Bastion Duo-Protocols : Shades of Fates : Conductors of Neon Resonance : The Night is Still Young editionSOVL
>>550639203>2025>ww1 trench core setting is still a thingPlease reconsider, unless you want your game to fade in the mediocrity and disappear without anyone buying it.
uh oh AIjeet meltie
AI xister's chimping
>check for /gedg/>its in the archives after C and C++ chads btfo everyone else
uh oh melty
honestly this general is completely dead and it’s entirely the fault of you luddite freaks screaming about soul while you haven't produced a single line of code in three years, go back to your discord hugboxes and talk about your hormones while the rest of us actually ship games using stable diffusion, you are literally actively sabotaging the thread with your cope
>>550639598Don't C people usually hate rust?why not raylib with odin if you want modern C?
imagine being so mentally ill that you think drawing a crooked hand is "artistic integrity" but typing a prompt is theft, take your pills and realize that the machine god has already replaced you, the only reason this thread sucks now is because we have to sift through 50 posts of troon seething just to find one person actually working on a project
i check this thread for one second and it's just "waaah ai is bad" from someone with pronouns in their github bio who has never finished a project, you people are a cancer on development, if you spent half the energy you spend on twitter drama on actually learning how to leverage llms you might not be a failure but i guess that's asking too much
why do the jannies even let these anti-ai luddites post here anymore, they contribute nothing but noise and moralizing garbage, meanwhile i just generated an entire sprite sheet in seconds that looks better than anything you've drawn in your pathetic life, keep crying about it while you dilate, the future doesn't care about your feelings
>>550640462>i check this thread for one second and it's just "waaah ai is bad" from someone with pronouns in their github bio who has never finished a project, you people are a cancer on development, if you spent half the energy you spend on twitter drama on actually learning how to leverage llms you might not be a failure but i guess that's asking too much
>>550640289dunno, I want to use something that doesn't create me 90 MB of binaries.Is my current issue with godot.
the absolute state of this board is pathetic, it’s just a containment zone for failed artists and mental patients who are terrified of technology, if you aren't using copilot you are purposefully handicapping yourself to signal virtue to a bunch of freaks who don't even play games, just leave and let the real devs talk
>>550640535daily reminder that if you hate ai it's just a skill issue and you're mad that the barrier to entry was lowered enough that your "identity" as a creative is worthless, cope harder you absolute loser, maybe if you didn't spend all your money on srs you could afford a midjourney sub and actually make something worth playing
it is actually hilarious watching you luddites screech about copyright when you steal oxygen every day, ai is the ultimate equalizer and you hate it because it means your little clique of mentally unstable discord users can't gatekeep game dev anymore, we are going to replace you and there is nothing you can do about it
this thread used to be about making games now it's just a therapy session for people who think their gender identity is a personality trait and are scared of a python script, you are ruining the culture here, either post your generated assets and code or get the fuck out and go back to tumblr
Uh oh meltie
you claim ai has no soul but i've seen your art and it looks like it was drawn by a schizophrenic toddler, at least the ai understands anatomy better than you do, you're just mad that a computer can do your "passion" better faster and cheaper while you rot in your room wondering why nobody loves you
can we please just ban the anti-ai topic entirely, every time some tranny brings it up the whole thread derails into a morality lecture, nobody cares about your ethics we care about results and ai delivers results, you are obsolete and you know it so just do the world a favor and 41 yourself out of the industry already
He's crashing out again!
>>550639670>>550639756honestly this entire general has gone to shit ever since the discord trannies decided to invade and make everything about their mental illness instead of actually shipping code, like we get it you cut your dick off and hate ai because it threatens your shitty furry commission income but can you shut the fuck up and let us talk about godot for five seconds without dilating all over the thread
>>550640665>>550640635>>550640835imagine being such a luddite cuck that you think typing a prompt is theft but taking hormones to mimic a woman isn't stealing valor from biological females, it's the exact same logic you hypocritical freaks, ai is just the hrt for talentless hacks like me and it works better than your pills ever will so cope and seethe while i generate my assets
>>550639993This seems familiar, some variation of josh and his chat bot. The AI xisters have their own identifiable quirks.
>>550640289>>550640435>>550640276every single time i see someone screeching about ai having "no soul" i just assume it's some agp loser who spends more time curating their picrew avatar than actually learning c#, you aren't an artist you're just a mentally unstable consumer who is mad that a robot can replicate your "unique style" in under a second
>>550640835I could have sworn "avatar or signature use" was against the rules. Someone ought to look into it
>>550629574>>550629512>>550629497why do luddies always project their own insecurities onto the machine, they scream about copyright while stealing oxygen from normal people, newsflash tranny nobody cares if the ai was trained on your deviantart trash because your art had zero value to begin with, the model probably got worse by looking at your garbage
What are you all yapping about now?
>>550640835Being unable to make a game even with AI holding their hand has pushed Josh and Pedro over the edge.
>>550626356>>550626320it's actually hilarious how the anti-ai crowd and the trans crowd is a perfect circle on a venn diagram, it's like failing at life makes you inherently afraid of superior technology, enjoy staying poor while i automate my entire workflow and release three games a year you absolute biological dead ends
>>550624068you will never be a real artist and you will never be a real woman, ai generates better curves and cleaner topology than whatever the fuck you're trying to do with your life, just accept that silicon has surpassed your carbon-based delusions and submit to the new order or get out of the general
>>550622339>>550622193mods need to just ban anyone with pronouns in their bio from posting here, they contribute nothing but noise and bad takes about ai, this is a game development general not a therapy session for failed artists who are terrified that a python script has more creativity than they do
>>550641121my wife looks like this
the docs;https://docs.vulkan.org/spec/latest/index.html
>>550640835Really funny isn't it Becky. He's so jealous he can't make a game like us
>>550640781>we care about resultscould've fooled me.
NGL an AI fuckbot calling me a carbon based delusion would be pretty W faps
>tfw have progress>tfw see the current state of the thread>tfw I guess I'll hold off
>Vulkan is a C99 API designed for explicit control of low-level graphics and compute functionality.UGHHH, they use a 26 year old C standard?!?!?!
>>550640710>>550641194>python script>he trained his python chatbot to shitpost about itselfWeird. Hey joshua...shut up.
>>550640927>imagine being such a luddite cuck that you think typing a prompt is theft but taking hormones to mimic a woman isn't stealing valor from biological femalesKEK
>>550641524Your shit is not funny josh. Have some dignity pls.
>In 2025 people still manually spam on 4chanThat's the funniest shit of all time
>>550640562raylib has bindings for a ton of languages. It is worth a look. Can't say anything much about rust or bevy, never used them. But i see a lot more "real" project with raylib than bevy, and it solves your problem.
>>550641825I see. And Japanese cartoons has something to do with it?
>>550641825Gotta keep the tradition alive.Or maybe his so loved AI can't make a functioning automated spam script LMAO.
Alright, tidying up some UI cruft to prep for alpha demo release. Do you peeps prefer A or B style for empty party slots?
Progress. Lots of invisible polish all around, got drop shadows to only draw on close background elements and worked on level design.>>550610650That face is better than your usual. More prominent cheek bones, brow ridge and nose
I just had a small heart attack. My git repository was getting very big, so I moved all of the image and audio files used in Bedabots (3.7GB in total) to git-lfs. After the migration, and after completely overwriting my git history, I discovered that all my local image files had been corrupted. Apparently, git-lfs likes to delete local files after you migrate them, replacing them with placeholders that are meant to be downloaded from the server (to which they were just uploaded). It was luckily solved by doing git-lfs pull, but boy howdy was that a scary couple of minutes. I feared I'd accidentally, irrevocably corrupted every single last image file in the entire repository.
Should I replay my favorite game and evaluate the characteristics that make like it so much or should I play something I never did and be introduced to new ideas that may broaden my horizons?
>>550642505Don't store your assets in Git. It's for text files, not binary.
>>550642712git-lfs is for storing binary files. I was moving assets from git to git-lfs when this jumpscare happened.
>>550642692>742 Evergreen Terrace, SpringfieldLMAO
>>550642505more like beta bots. LOL!glad your project wasnt ruined
>>550642821I still don't trust Linus Torvalds.
>>550642953TOPKEK
>>550640562Rust creates huge binaries and is likely one of the most gamedev unfriendly programming language with it snail's pace iteration speed
>>550642505Thank you very much for your help, which resolved my problem in a timely and accurate manner!
i cannot believe that it is almost the year 2000 + (4 * 6) + 2 and people still arent using AIAI can:>speed up your game dev process>get great results>no need for hire a artist or voice actors>better at code then you are>googles at the speed of light, more information more quick than before>help you with ideaI ask my AI chatbot, what is a good idea for making my game? And he wrote ideas for me. It's like having the ideasman.png guy in your house at all times.Next, I have more time for my family, for my friends. AI speeds along my game, and so I have free time to spend it with family.I will not insult you for not use AI, but I will wonder... How come you hate your family? How come you despise your friends? How come you do not wish to make speedy progress that is even better then before?That is my question to you, anti-AI posters. Why? It is the way for the future to use AI, do you wish to be trapped into the passed?
>>550642692nypa faggot
>>550644127Every time you use AI you are stealing the job of a quadriplegic demi-trans homunculus poc, do you even understand what evil you are causing?
>>550643947You're welcome, anon! Feel free to hit me up if you have any other issues.
a game about kissing little girls
>>550644292>you are steal the job from darkies and trans by use AIif the darkie is so good at being helpful for free then how come slavery ended.
>>550642505another round of git causing a scare albeit dodged this time. what is this, the third guy now? iirc one had to fully redo months worth of his project.not that i advocate you should continue development of such games. you should give up on it and follow Jesus Christ. the money isn't worth the lake of fire anon ;_;
>using git in 2025 for gamedevwhat mental illness is this? perforce exists
>program new feature, it is amazing and works>encounter extraordinarily strange behavior afterwards>know it's the new feature>after 6795 minutes of searching realize it's a missing "break;" in a switch case EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S ALWAYS THE SMALLEST SYNTAX BULLSHIT THAT C++ COULD JUST WARN ME ABOUT. I AM A GENIUS THAT DOES EVERYTHING CORRECTLY JUST FOR THE WORLD TO FUCK ME OVER
>want to discuss my game to get advice on what to cut/modify>can't, because I'm super paranoid that if I have any good ideas at all, at least one of you will be lowly enough to steal them
>>550644792>a little over 113 hours to find the issuegrim. you okay bocchi sis?
>>550644792>>550644959should have used AI
>>550644792Couldn't be me with my GDScript and Rust match statements.
>>550644879Iktf. I've wanted to talk about my games so much but this worries me too much. It doesn't help that there seem to be a lot of cloning activity either. Do you have anyone irl to talk about it with?
>>550644782I use dropbox :)
>>550644879ask your boyfriend
>>550645134the truth is normies don't actually care about anything and just pretend to have emotions
>>550644792That's why you should use if/elseif/else instead of switches.
>>550645391tard
>>550645143>>550644879You can post whatever you want here. The nodevs literally can't steal your ideas, and the yesdevs are busy with their own.
>>550645626You can not refute my argument.
>>550597113Grim when pic related has more reviews. The artistic quality is so high yet it sold poorly. Isn't that review after someone posted the game on /v/ and someone gave a pity review?>>550638103I've noticed when a pretty girl walks past me I sniff to see if I can capture her aroma wafting in the air. Some of them smell nice.
Oh no no no, our response?
>>550645795luddies rnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU
>>550645795lol he literally says "This AI hysteria is the same as when people were smashing steam engines in the 19th century." luddite hate is going mainstream
I always knew the discord was full of lame-o no game-o's
>>550644792I wonder what the idea behind not making the fall through explicit instead was
Should I get a beer0-4 - yes5-9 - no
>>550645678>AI generated image poster telling you "Post your ideas"Uhh... Bros?
>>550645795>(((Daniel Vavra))) is a Czech video game writer, director, designer and co-founder of Warhorse Studios>Vávra started his career in 1998 at Illusion Softworks. His first project was Hidden and Dangerous, for which he copy pasted some textures from a CD>His next project was the highly acclaimed Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven, for which he was the lead designer, screenwriter and director.I say nepo, you say....?
>looking at game>considering getting it>see tags>family friendly tag>nudity tagUhh what?
>>550644792>>program new feature, it is amazing and works>>encounter extraordinarily strange behavior afterwards>>know it's the new feature>>after 6795 minutes of searching realize it's a missing "break;" in a switch case >EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT'S ALWAYS THE SMALLEST SYNTAX BULLSHIT THAT C++ COULD JUST WARN ME ABOUT.> I AM A GENIUS THAT DOES EVERYTHING CORRECTLY JUST FOR THE WORLD TO FUCK ME OVER
>>550646614>he doesn't watch porn with mom and dadngmi
>>550646458https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJoWuoTexawNothing in that image is AI generated.
>>550646752BROS THEY'RE COPYING OUR OLDEST MEMES
>>550635963It’s easier on mobile for some reason lol
>>550646942gookmoot has chink botfarm investments
>>550646936>bros>our memesI didn't know you worked as a writer for the Laugh out Loud network.
>>550647209>Laugh out Loud networkThis sounds like a botnet
>our memes>oh I get it>The Gansta Party Line was created by Adam Schary. The TV commercial parody was written and directed by stand up comedian Brent Weinbach.
Git just works for assets. I have never used lfs. I don’t know why They want us to add so much added complexity to everything.
>>550647403huh?
>>550647591It works, until you try to restore and corrupt all the binary files.
>>550647591maybe if your assets are primitives lmao
>>550647591What do you mean you're not using Nanite ready assets with 100m tris and 16k textures???
>>550647591I hadn't used git-lfs myself, but the repository size was slowly creeping up to the limit permitted by Bitbucket. There comes a point where you simply need to move to git-lfs (or some other system). This is mostly because my artist insists on using ridiculous huge-resolution assets so the players can zoom in 4x to marvel at details.
How hard is it to modify your build script to pull in the assets from somewhere else where they are stored correctly, and add your assets folder to the .gitignore?
>>550647739>huh?
>>550647907fuck you dalit, your 2d ponglike will get no reviews
>>550647939i don't know
>>550647907ok retard
Anything good for game dev on the steam sale?
I get it, I haven't changed the oil in my car in three years, I still know it's wrong.
>>550647925Oh yeah mine was getting big for a while, I found a command online I forget what it was called but it like prunes big old stuff that you’re not going to need again, I don’t remember what it was though
I've made lots of small UI improvements. My goal was to have something moving on screen at all times, and I'm a lot closer then before. I've also done a lot of bug fixes, including a big refactor of how bets payout.I got a good idea for a new shop feature from a player, so I hope to have that in before next DD. I kid of hoped I'd be farther along, but every time I playtest I find more to fix or change.
>>550647986>>huh?
>>550648172megabonk
>>550648104I will DECIMATE your mesh, faggot.
>>550648172Games. Play games to know what a good game is.
>>550648268chat the AI is looping
>>550648261>world puzzle dev has good game and shitty juice/ui>dice dev has bad game and good juice/uireally makes you jog
>>550648421>>>huh?
>>550647907I take your super high poly models and I degrade them until they're PS1 tier.The good thing about this approach is someone could make a HD remaster if they wanted to by just using the meshes I started from.
>>550648261I don’t care.
you people have bullied me once too many times and I won't take it anymore.I'm going to make the BEST game that a 4channer dev has ever made, and guess what??? When I get famous I'm gonna DENY ever posted on this god forsaken HELLHOLE that is /agdg/I'll say>sure, yeah. I posted on 4chan, on the /v/ threads.>/agdg/? Oh, you mean that abosutely CESSPIT of a place? LOL. As if I would of posted there. HA!>Anyway, me and my best bud Eric Barone have to get outta here, we have dinner reservations at Outback Steakhouse (Eric's favorite restaurant, it is his birthday)
>>550597616following nortubel's tumblr was a mistake
>>550648751you remind me of the other guy
>>550648172Back in the day you used to get Substance Painter on sale during the steam sale but they've since made it subscription only the giant fags.
>>550648461>dice dev has bad gameSay that again.
>>550648484MODS HELP I SPIL MY JICE
>>550648887You can still get substance designer/painter through steam but it rarely goes on sale. I think 2026 is the last year that they're doing full licenses cus the steam page now has subscriptions as well as an outright purchase.
>>550649034I last bought it in 2023 and they haven't significantly changed it since desu. You get 1-2 decent features every year. I might buy it one more time for the new decal feature but it's not necessary.
>>550648751How did you find out that Eric's favorite restaurant is Outback?what are your sources?
>>550648958you know it too, i stalk you on your other socials, you only put this facade here
>>550641998Yeah its an image board I aint posting without an image. Anime girl reaction images are the currency of participation>>550642150Honestly sorta based someone could be that fucking livid. I hope to harness a fraction of that passion for my project
>>550597760So this guy is a real life Santa Claus who gifts copies of Stardew Valley to all the good boys and girls (male) on 4chan, and you want to fuck him over?
>>550649920/agdg/ doesn't deserve shit at this point
>>550650054I'll be here on christmas day to ask Eric B himself to take a quick look at my game.
>>550650054>/agdg/ doesn't deserve shit at this point
How did Puppet Combo do it?Makes several thousand dollars a month pumping out low quality horror games...
>>550650178>How did Puppet Combo do it?>Makes several thousand dollars a month pumping out low quality horror games...
is this the best place to discuss gamedev or is reddit better?
>>550650553yeah reddit is better, go quickly
>>550650553post your game loser
>>550650553>4chanYour game is shit and you're retarded.>RedditYour game is shit and you're an exceptional individual.
E33 won game of the year and the writer for that game was a Redditor. I hate to say it Aggy but redditors have a point on your head.
>>550650830That’s an unfair comparison because E33 was an indie game. In terms of quality it goes like this from highest to lowest:Big-budget games > indie games > aggy games
E33 won game of the year and used AI, dare I say based
>>550635963This captcha is a godsend. It's genuinely a tard filter
>>550651164imagine believing this
>>550651164On the contrary it makes it easier for phoneposters and harder for everyone else
>>550651164It's still too easy. They need to upgrade it to filter all sub 130-IQs.
The new captcha is great because I don't have to type anything anymore.
I like boobs, so my game will feature boobs.what does your game have? oh, it doesnt have boobs? ngmi
>>550651280gooner
The new captcha removes the funny coincidences you could get with the letters so that's a bummer
>>550651280If you can't solve the most basic IQ puzzle you shouldn't be doing gamedev>>550651316I'm not on mobile. You're saying it's even easier and tards still can't make the cut?
>>550651571proof?
>>550651418And Japanese cartoons helped with that? Interesting
>>550651473nigger
>>550650553Reddit could be 10x more useful and the culture would still be so dogshit I'd never opt into it. Like if you're blogging on updates from your game, you want the better culture. If you're seeking actual advice, no one knows what the fuck they're talking about so they are equally useless outside of the rare moments of insight you get out of osmosis.
>>550651624
learning godot after using gamemaker for months is like breathing fresh air for the first time
>>550651731fuck you
>>550651826no, fuck YOU
>>550651761so if I want to pump and dump progress posts I should just use reddit? I turn to textbooks when I need advice.
>>550651761I'm not reading all that shit
>>550652240loser
>>550652352>>550652441
>>550652579we had something special and now you bring HIM into the mix? i'm done with you
>>550649414>i stalk you on your other socialsExample #6123 of why you should never post your game here
>>550650553The real /agdg/ is on Bluesky and secret secure encrypted apps like Telegram
>>550653148
>>550653365What did he mean by this
>>550653313>Bluesky>Telegram
>>550651370But then this general would have zero posters
>>550653148>having fans is le bad
>>550651652This is 4chans, superior Japanese cartoons have to do with everything
>>550653701>FansThat's a crab anon
>>550653818prove you aren't a crab
>>550649414do you stalk me on my socials?? I only have 10 instagram followers, are you one of them???how come you never like my posts
post claws
>>550653652Well there would be me (140 IQ) and uhhh...
>>550654193
>>550649414>FacadeI've posted here a few times that I know my game is destined to flop. That doesn't mean I consider it bad. I'm proud of what I've done, and I've gotten enough positive feedback from other craps fans to justify finishing it, at least to be the one who brought the idea to life.
>>550654192i replied to your reddit posts using multiple accounts to increase traction
By the way, this >>550654287 is me, this >>550654192 is not me. I should start using a trip.
>>550654402By the way, this >>550654192 is me, this >>550654402 is not me. I was not trying to impersonate anyone, and why would >>550654402 need a trip if their writing style is easily recognizable?
lutrannies seething
>the freemason game isnt DEI at all chuds>look its based!
>>550654862
>>550654782>>550654280
>>550648407Playing a good game is too crushing
>>550655010>look its based!
>>550654862this is what the average ai slopper is up to btw
its a >pdf starts posting his folderepisode
>>550655301>anti communist
>>550654252I can max out any online IQ test.
Welp. I have to put my cat down. It’s not going to be the same devving without him sleeping on the back of my chair.
what happened to Sasquatch B??? When is Veil of Maia releasing?
>>550655663You want a new one? I have too many.
AI33 won, lu's lost
I told you guys, you need to be cat maxxing if you want to be real devs.
>>550655867dogs > cats
>>550655956Dogs are for active hunter-gatherer societies. Cats are for sedentary grain-fed agrarian societies, which is why I prefer cats.
>>550656224who are you
>>550656326I've been asking myself this all my life.
Time for a daily posture check. Are you sitting upright like a normie, or are you maintaining the yesdev slouch?
>>550656901look at those feminine hairless arms
>>550656901I'm reclined back 45 degrees like a boss.
good day of work, implemented my Vulkan Renderer's Frame Subsystem.Next on the list is the Memory Arena Allocator Subsystem.
>>550657162What’s the point of that? Can’t you just use godot?
>>550657304Do not respond to the mentally ill nodev.
>>550657037I probably shouldn't be saying this, but he shaves his arms for speed. Less hair means less drag which means he's more aerodynamic while typing.It's just a few milliseconds when he moves his hands between his mouse and keyboard, grabs his cup for a sip of tea, or is even walking to the computer to start programming for the day... but it adds up over time and is one of the reasons he was able to complete Stardew Valley all by himself in such a short period of time.Imagine how fast he'd be if he shaved his head and pubes too. He'd be unstoppable, a new Eric Barone game every. single. month. It'd be too much.He only shaves his arms because it's enough for reaching his own personal speed goals, but it also gives other devs a chance to catch up.
>>550656901Lean back legs on legrest
>>550657162>Next on the list is the Memory Arena Allocator Subsystem.You using VMA or doing your own?
I am just gonna use specialized engines like rpg maker, fighter maker, shmup creator, mugen, instead of rellying on more complex to use and slower to finish general engines.
>>550656901I have one of those autism stools, my mom bought it for me for my birthday a few years ago. it's pretty comfortable and keeps me focused
its l'dover
>>550657672damn, unc crashin out frfr
Has anyone ever dumped a game on Steam with zero promotion or marketing and it blew up anyways sheerlg because of the Steam algorithm?
square just trained an ai on amano's works so they could make good final fantasies againif it's good enough for square it's good enough for you
>>550657115same. feet up on desk
>>550657967but the trans sector job losses? did you consider that?
>>550657672Gamers are retards, and anti-AI gamers are king retards. They will squawk and squeal while games like Arc Raiders and the next Larian RPG makes millions of dollars. The funny thing? The same people crying will buy these games anyways.
>>550658172
>>550657672I don't like the idea of being able to ask NPCs anything because nothing they say is going to matter anyway.You could ask them for the history of such and such land and they'll give everyone a generic ass answer that every developer will go>Well that isn't actually canon it's just the AI's response...
nice samefag retard
>>550658365in my game ai will decide the canon
>>550656901Eric posts such as these are delightful and ontopic for gamedev. No wonder they rattle the xister so badly.
these... are our opponents, really makes you think
you're against ai yet you use a computer built using slavery and child laborcurious
How do I get chatgpt to stop saying Ah
>>550656901>good morning mugs
>>550658930"You will talk like an adult born in the 20th century"
>>550657672watch his next one take 7 years despite using AI
>>550659079Zoomers born in 1999 are 26 year old working adults this year.
>>550659135The only thing that’s going to take 7 years is for you to stop crying about AI
>>550659079I usually put “don’t say ah” at the end of my prompts and it will still say it sometimes. They must have hard programmed it to do that recently to make you think that it’s thinking or something, idk but it’s getting annoying
>>550659221I use AI albeit. I think it's neat. I was commenting on the fact his team of 300 take 7 years to shit out a homosexual simulator, something must be wrong with management. AI assets won't fix that.
>>550657304I need to know a lot about my system.>>550657550I'm thinking on that still.
>>550659543Okay I was just trying to be witty and funny
>>550659543>Calling BG3 a homosexual simulatorMassive cope
>>550659716You're quick, You should be a stand up comedian.
>>550658857Pedodevs are based tho
>>550656901The devvest
>>550659849>BG3kingdom cum
67 and i will get a real job instead of making games
>>550659974This. At least, pedodevs post good looking games. Meanwhile, AI cultists couldn't even last a week. How's the tennis game coming along?
>his mom helps him gamedev
>>550661079>Mom are you done with the loli model yet? agdg are getting antsy
>>550661227Unfathomably based.
>>550642403Depends, if there's enough screen estate otherwise, then I prefer the top as it clearly indicates that there's room for more party members.
>>550642821git-lfs is still kinda poopy because with a project that large your .git folder will soon blow up to like 100s of gibabytes. The industry standard is https://www.perforce.com/products/helix-core
>>550661079>His mom doesn't help him gamedev
>>550644792>open my project in zeditor>describe the problem to my buddy claude>30 seconds later claude inserts the missing break
I've been thinking of working on a zomboid competitor.I don't think it's crazy to make a zombie game in 2025...
>>550662485a 3rd person zomboid clone that focuses less on realism autism would be fun.
>>550662485Start with Pong.
>>550662759>mfw i just realized its called project zomboid because its a zombie game project and the zombies are boids
Pong but with a subversive twist.
>>550663937Pong but you're trying to the ball into a woman's... well, you know
>>550663937Pong, but it turns out you were Ping the whole time.
Redpill me on code(((berg))).org. Why is everyone moving their project off github?
>>550662186Claude is a wonderful employee. Rarely complains. Doesn't take piss breaks. Dont think they have ever even mentioned benefits.
>>550664313M$/github is starting to charge for CI, even local.codeberg and gitlab are about equally popular.
>>550664376For now.Daily reminder that these companies are burning through massive amounts of money and this software is going to be filled with ads in 2-5 years.
>>550652314What's the point of your progress posts? Soft advertisement? Then you just spew them everywhere. If its for the dopamine of showing people you aren't a useless piece of shit and are actually making progress on your game, post them to the better culture (here, not leddit)
>>550664521>Claude sneakily begins inserting Wendy's ads into the codeI wouldn't even be mad
>>550664313Github refused to ban everyone who still used the term "master" so normal people have all abandoned it since they're clearly a fascist website ran by nazis.
>>550664489That's unfortunate.
>>550664748The boobs look weird, I like the hair though
>>550664748the aesthetic is really cool but how the fuck do the sleeves work
>>550665053They just werk, dumb dumb.
>>550665130armpit exposure
bungie started with pong>GNOP! was the first computer game created and published by Bungie Studios. Alex Seropian authored the game in 1990, almost a year before Bungie's official incorporation.
>>550664965thanks>>550665053they're supposed to be like those detached sleeve things
>>550664537>better culture (here, not lettit)This has to be bait, it just has to be!When I post my game here, I get attacked, berated, torn to shreds. Could there be a word for that? Oh yeah, crabbed. I get crabbed to heck and back.But when I post onto "leddit" as you so eloquently called it in your thinly veiled insult, I am met with praise and wishes of good fortune.>Great job, anon! Take this updoot, think of it like a pre-wishlist>You're really going places, keep up the good work!>Whoa, are there any other places where I can follow your work? Looks amazing!each reply is one of those compliments that I'll be thinking about before going to sleep in 20 years.Whereas for here, thoughbeit? I am met with>xisters...how will we recover?>you sucks>cris won! (I am not cris, and being accused of being him is the greatest insult)>hope you are not in this for the money. heh.What in your little accursed mind possesses you to believe that this here board is a cultured place for discussion?Well, anon? Hmmmph?
>reddit spacing
>>550665469>thoughbeit
>>550665469Then why are you here you dork ass loser
>>550664748she looks like she dates nodevs
>Then why are you here you dork ass loser
with character design you should start with the penis then work outwards
>>550665371Even in that reference, they are a part of a more detailed top that goes around the neck. Those are more like arm sleeves, but that have poof at the bottom. Obvious aesthetic outweighs actual practicality but that seems like a 1/1 in design
>>550665469I'm just saving you from wasting your time.
how do i make video games
>the forest bandits are a racially diverse group with an equal number of men and women that live at peace with the monstrous spiders and man-eating wolves, united in their hatred of the adventurerwhy are mmos like this
>>550666495https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGpFEv1-mAo
>>550664489What’s CI? Just git push origin master bro
>>550666302yeah that pic wasn't supposed to be related but it's another character of mine that has something similar. the intention is that they're kinda like arm sleeves like pic related they probably have some sort of elastic on the bottom that makes it stay on with the poofy part. the big ring things could also be considered like bracelets that hold it together.
>>550666658CI is letting the computer do that automagically for you.
>>550666495>we're going to rape all the women!t.a bandit group comprised of 50% womendon't look for logic in dei
>>550666658CI/CD is for the big kids. If you actually had a game on Steam, you could set up Github actions to automatically run a build and push the built packages into Steamworks as a new depot every time you git push origin master.
women rape too
>>550667032Oh.. I have something like that in my makefile. I just type make steam_deploy. It’s very primitive but at least it’s free…
>>550667052Women didn't resort to banditry because 1) they're weak and 2) prostitution is safer and easier
>>550667790they actually practice a form of banditry via prostitution. Hence why hookers will steal from naive men.
What's the issue with Rust?So far It has nice modern features like a cleaner syntax, and their memory system seems better than C or C++.Dunno why trannies is a computer science argument, since I don't care about rust developers fetiches.
>a cleaner syntax
>>550669110I don’t know. I never used it. But I heard that the White House said it’s the national programming language.
>>550669110The problem is that it filters out the same low-IQ retards that C++ filters, so you have the same retards crying about it. (None of them have games, so their opinions don't matter.)
>rust>games
how hard is it to make a game in Game Maker for a complete beginner? I haven't made any games yet and I haven't programmed but I have made animated gifs.
I'm working on a Rayman fan game
>>550669652 cont.I suppose that there is the extra little quibble that Rust FORCES you to write good code, whereas the C/C++ compiler will allow you to write and compile bad code. I almost forgot about this problem because I never write bad code, regardless of the language.
>>550669110c++ is the industry standard
>Try to learn low level 2025 game programming>It's WebGPU with rust and gtlf models
>>550670427if thats true then how come all of my youtube recommendations are rust tutorials and not c++ tutorials
>>550670337Make pong in Gamemaker, and you'll know your answer.
>>550670385
>>550670442that's an annoying issue with rust in general, every tutorial or reference will rarely be library-free.It's ironically very hostile to beginners who want to actually learn.
>>550670427C++ is a language from 1985.Do you still use commodores or NES or any machine from 1982?This is like retards claiming the T model is a better car than cars made in 2015.
>>550670559how would making pong help me? it isnt 1972 anymore
>>550670638>Do you still use commodores or NES or any machine from 1982?Yes. Daily.
>>550670618That's not my issue, my issue is that I'm mentally stuck in learning Java with libgdx and C++ with SDL and Opengl 2.1Feels literally like the movie where the guy is frozen in some ice jail and then wakes ups 50 years in the future and everything is now gay and retarded.I'm not complaining, I'm just mentally a loser from 2005-209.
air control is funny. Idk if I should limit it...
>>550670764You could stay by making the dream game you always wanted and then deciding to go from 2d to 3d mid project and then take 10+ years to finish it so that you’re basically locked into Unity
>>550670764If you start with a more complicated game idea, you could gaslight yourself into thinking that you're capable of making your game when you're actually not. When you struggle and fail to even make Pong, it'll be much more clear to you that you're not cut out of this.
>>550650178Go back about 7 years to when indie horror games were popular and start making games then
>How do I build my dream house by hand?>Start with a chicken coop>How is that going to help me build my house?
>>550670983I did this and make six figures. You just need the right quantity of ADHD.
After I learn the theory behind graphics programming from scratch and build my own rasterizer, then I can learn OpenGL. After I learn OpenGL, I can start learning Vulcan and Metal at the same time while building my cross-platform game engine.
>supporting OSX
>>550671236anon has a point, why would anyone bother starting from step one when the modern internet an AI can help someone start from step one-hundred or even one-thousand.
>>550671548You can't build shit with AI unless you know what you're building.
>>550671531And iOS! Don’t forget that Apple made it pain free to cross support between their computers and their phones. Did you know the RE4 remake runs in the iPhone? That’s nuts!
>>550671548How's tennis coming along, retard?
>if he started with pong and added tits>he would be done right now
>>550671616fine, I will change my statement. Why start at step one when you could start at step one plus AI?
>>550671858Step zero is have at least 130 IQ points, and you've already failed and given up.
>>550671858BECAUSE YOU CANT READ THE CODE THE AI IS OUTPUTTING IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO CODE
>yo Grok build me a game>why is it crashing??>Your game is not crashing, please be sure to check again!
Why should I learn letters and words when the AI can just read for me?
>>550671998Basically this.All of this AI crap only helps you if you have some base knowledge already.
>>550671998>CANT READ THE CODEoh wow, a bunch of { } and (), sometimes a ; or two and some :so hard to read. Besides, I see the code twice, once when I copy it and once when I paste it. So I get twice as much experience compared to someone who types it the old fashion way, they only see it once which is as they're typing it so they do not get the complete picture.
NEW THREAD>>550672321>>550672321>>550672321
>low cognitive resolution moment
>>550672275>why is this little star thing null?
I ain't gonna lie, it took me way longer than it should have to understand pointers.
>>550672779anon the name says what they do...
>>550666736Its a cool look, but its def in a fiction of aesthetic design. Also Avril Lavigne my love
>>550635963ThanksI was brutally forcing this captchanow I know how to do it
