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Banned Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-16-2025-update.93983/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>550486628
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Pull.
Back.
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>>550606684
puh bak!
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>>550606931
shut up matt mercer
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>you are now forced to fight inside Victor's stink aura to win
Uh...
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>>550606684
Going in!
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>>550607097
wdym
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>>550607097
It's fine, he does fuck all for damage now.
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>>550607097
hopefully the expanded base will have enough room to delta split and not be forced into a teamwide aoe ult or victor stink
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>>550607097
>shoot him from out of range until he dies
>go into the pit and shoot the patron uncontested after he is dead
what now?
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>>550607217
Base defense requires you to kill every defender, and that means you get to enjoy the rotting corpse smell of Victor if he's on the other team no matter what.
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>>550607032
seventh moon blablabla POWAH SLASHU!
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>>550607458
wait wtf, I have to kill every character on the other side to be allowed to finish a game? What prevents one from afking in the base
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>>550607573
my bad, I could swear that one was Drifter's
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>>550607627
they have to be in the pit to provide resistance
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>>550607876
explains the whle stink thing I see. Thanks for clarifying it good sir
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>>550606931
it's purr bak you fake alienhead
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Add him NOW.
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>McGinnis and Victor played in the NA championship
>still no Seven
Huh.
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>>550608405
seven having no innate movement option beyond just movespeed spirit scaling kinda fucks him over
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>>550608405
Everyone builds debuff remover so a major part of his kit is useless.
Doesn't help his ult sucks donkey.
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>>550608573
He's insanely good at base attack and defense if you build for 1/4 though...
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>>550608573
That makes him curse proof tho, if another carry gets cursed they cant movement ability away, he can just run
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>>550608987
>can
could because spirit speed scaling is gutted to shit now
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>Win match
>Game crashes
>Try to load the results
>Pic related
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>>550608635
>stun
>major
I mean, it's a nice add-on, but seven is fine chasing people down with surge and ball
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>>550609835
Yeah but its a major part of your combos. Stun + ball or stun + ult.
When they can press a button and cuck that then it makes your game plan a bit harder. Since you have to bank of them being intentionally retarded and staying in your ball.
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i don't get ivy
gun build is just worse wraith because cards exist
her oh shit gtfo is an ult
and her disable is a normal ability instead of an ult
and her "support" ability is worse than full auto
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>>550610160
gun build is a meme by retards that are too stupid to use her abilities
support ivy is also a meme
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>>550610394
what are you even supposed to do on her
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>>550610160
You mean a better full auto (it scales with spirit)
>>550610481
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>>550610032
>makes your game plan harder
negligibly
stun certainly isn't a major part of combos, it's just a nice 'please stop moving and make this easy for me'
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>>550610607
>piss easy to just walk out of
>takes 32 seconds to recharge a single one
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>>550610607
eh full auto affects everything around you including troopers which helps a bit in soloing walkers
...i wonder if mcginnis turret build and wraith would be a good combo?
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>>550608385
I really dont understand this shit. Like he just has a tiny hitbox so its impossible to shoot him?
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>>550610160
she WAS a soft carry with lots of utility.
the rank 1 ivy player says she sucks total ass now no matter how you build her so the recommendation is to just not play her.
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Yoshi saves the day.
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>oses, natan, and metro are all running Seven as a M1 like retards
>none of them are in the top 25 Sevens
>meanwhile every one of the top 10 in EU are running him ball/ult
Are M1fags really this retarded?
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>>550611710
But every spirit is AoE so who cares?
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>>550611710
hes gonna have like 300 hp
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>>550611749
no way lmao
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>>550611910
shiv ult is guaranteed 200 damage
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>BUG ABUSE!!!
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>>550610481
you build torment pulse and spirit to nuke people with flight into kudzu into bomb into stone form killing them instantly
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>>550611910
>large characters take reduced headshot damage
>small characters added to the game...?
this character better take double headshot damage.
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Took a break from /dlg/
Did y'all get the update?
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>>550612310
from what we've seen it's likely that something like 3/5ths of his hit box will be head, i guess that's one way of balancing its profound smallness
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>>550611780
M1 seven was objectively the play until yesterday
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>>550611780
>EU
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>>550611780
>EU
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>>550611910
So mandatory barriers?
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18/32
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how do we come back from this
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>>550615016
>>550614879
>>550614446
Here is the top Seven player in the game from 2 hours ago.
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>>550617260
Christ bro how many hours have you put in these last 2 days?
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>>550608385
>standing blowjobs
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>>550617260
Just got done last night with my 19th, this has honestly been a breeze
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>>550617387
Kill Geist IRL so she stops steam rolling you
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>>550617395
Thats an m1 build bro, its got 2 powersurge imbues
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>>550611710
He's small so his "jump on teammates backs" mechanic can work. It also means he'll be harder to hit (not impossible, you hit a smaller target when you deny souls for crying out loud), it's almost as though that's supposed to be one of his strengths and you'll want to spec into soul if you want to counter him.
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>>550617789
No. It's an everything build.
He also has rapid for ball, abd debuffs/range for ult.
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>>550618050
He doesnt have rapid, he has extra charge, only 800, and besides that the only item thats not m1 is expansion. The debuffs apply on powersurge too. If it was an everything build he would have upgraded cooldown
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4 games in a row with someone like this on my team
i'm taking a break till next month
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>>550618808
wtf man valve lets you have two bebops
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>>550617962
can't you just buy ricochet and kill him for free?
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>>550611646
isn't it only 10% for everything but herself?
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>>550611446
>Vortex web
>Stone form
>Also walk speed has been gutted
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>>550617651
this dude wants an owl to suck his dick
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>lane partner is first timing sincalir for ornaments
>enemy lane is a duo queue paige infernus and paige does the usual support cancer
fucking christ i hate this game right now
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>>550619625
oh yeah the 6.4k item with a 40 second cooldwon, also dashes still exist
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why is mina so fucking shit right now
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>grey talon has 36% WR in eternus right now
holy shit lmao
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>>550621495
I don't get it, why is he so bad specifically?
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Vyper feels weird now, with less spirit speed scaling she feels slow when I build spirit but if I build gun her spells barely tickle. What's she supposed to be good for besides just ganking people?
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This was some of the most high octane gameplay I've ever had. I love these tanky bastards.
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Maybe the real way to avoid Yoshi's forced losses is to just keep cycling characters
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>lane partner says it's his first time playing Grey Talon
>he hangs back holding his arrow like he's a skyrim archer then misses
>doesn't even get close enough to pick up souls so I have to do all the pushing
>I take all the damage all time and because I'm Vyper against bebop and wraith
>he just stands there picking his nose or leaves to farm a camp while our guardian is getting raped
>when I die for the 4th time he says "first time on vyper too? :)"
I hate laning with bad Grey Talon. They're useless but in a way that gets you killed and not them so then they don't even realise it's their fault
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>>550621632
ornament season

HONESTLY DO NOT TAKE LOW WINRATES SERIOUSLY THIS PATCH
this event is so fucking retarded. pants on head retarded holy shit.
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>>550620084
>>550622208
>>550622404
I think on surface level it's good to encourage variety and less metafaggotry in queues but in practice it falls flat because you roll the team of 4fun ornament farmers into this cancer
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>>550621632
he's been shit for a long time but now:
>all of his items were nerfed into the ground and/or have been shit for months
>his move speed spirit scaling also got nerfed into the ground
>soul collecting changes fuck him over a lot
>last direct change he got was 2 nerfs (and he wasn't even that good then), never got compensatory buffs
>has basically no niche (worst execute even if global due to having the longest CD out of them, having a big cast delay and needing T3 to actually be an execute in the first place)
>his snare essentially does nothing
>and he also is not benefitted at all by the patron changes
he already had only ~43% winrate before the christmas patch btw
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>>550622540
I have a theory that they planned this event with the new 4fun ARAM mode, but since they fucked up releasing the update we get this dogshit in regular lobbies.
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Getting a stronger and stronger snowball is fun tho

I wonder if it's actually kinda viable in dueling 1v1 super early laning just as an extra poke tool. I think the long delay you have to do anything else after casting kinda kills it being a bonus attack.
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>>550622721
>let me troll lobbies for chip damage that I'll never use
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>>550622696
that certainly would have been an amazingly fun combo, but its too competent for me to believe its true
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Heroic aura is the best item in the game
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>>550623937
Finally, a non-Seeker post.
What is your rank, good sir?
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>>550607097
you can just spread out or use verticality to counter him
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>>550624403
Seeker
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>>550624403
initiate
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TOP 500 seven here to settle the debate……
the best seven build is….
capacitor seven.
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>>550624885
I support capacitor seven as long as you commit to the bit with lightning scroll and torment pulse
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>>550608573
>seven having no innate movement option beyond just movespeed spirit scaling kinda fucks him over
But all the characters with without an innate movement option nor scaling speed aren't fucked over?
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I only played one game to get the chimney ornament and I don't think I'll play any more before the january update. Icefraud better not add more FOMO shit for people who got all the balls.
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The snowball comes back every year but the event to level it up is this year only.

That would be based.
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Why does Yoshi love Mina so much? Who the fuck thought giving a character like her such a bullshit escape tool?
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>>550611780
>are fags retarded
yes

halfway btw
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>>550625132
I tried tpulse and lightning scroll on an ultmaxx once, and I was unkillable until minute 30 (was inhouse tho)
my next theorycraft for base defense
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>>550621941
Shouldn't have opened my mouth, immediately had to fight a Mina Billy lane
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>>550625970
because hotpoo gives good head
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Am I retarded? I've lost three games as haze having never played her before and I can't figure her out
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https://voca.ro/18luDuK8TuPf
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>>550620084
just had another game exactly like this
sinclair going for ornaments vs paige doing the usual ekitten tranny build with guardian ward knockdown and his mina duo queue
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>>550625970
it's countered by a cheap item so no
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>>550628174
t. Yoshi
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>>550626802
you just need to build fire rate
never grab gun damage items because her gun scales like dogshit (except lucky shot that one's good)
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>>550621052
She still has 1.7 scaling on her 3, she still nukes
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https://streamable.com/4fafy2
Victor loves the new Patron defenders rule
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>>550629549
>55 minute game


what unholy rank is this game
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>>550630401
Low Oracle
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what are the worst characters to get the ornaments done with
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>>550631663
Supports/Tanks that rely on teammates to actually do things, but that's just regular solo-Q
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>>550631663
depends on what you typically play, for m1gger players basically the whole cast is probably an ordeal, for everyone else that doesnt play supports its gonna be bebop, holliday and viscous
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>>550631663
Was mina for me. Pocket might be hard aswell but ive heard Glocket goes pretty hard and doesnt require too precise aim
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So, what do you do again a player who has perma jungled and farmed to the heat death of the universe until they become invincible? Seems to me farming is simply the best way for players who suck at this game to get free wins.
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>>550634280
What actually happens is your teammates believe this while the enemy team has more map control and gains power faster then you do until you inevitably get crushed when the enemy team has a 30k+ soul lead

Farm doesn't matter if you can't win fights; every time you win a fight and your teammates run off to the jungle to "farm" you slip closer and closer into insanity
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>>550634280
>Seems to me farming is simply the best way for players who suck at this game to get free wins.
In my experience pushing the lane is free wins. So many games with open walkers and just camping a lane can get you all walkers solo
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>>550634280
Invade with a teammate or push your lead and end the game early.
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>>550634280
you are correct, it requires a much more coordinated and skilled team to either shut down this person or end the game before they are relevant, now a lot of ironically low skilled players will argue you are shit for letting them do this, but here is a video >>550629549 or apparently oracle players where the game is almost an hour long, and oracle is far higher than the general skill level of most of the shitters in this general, so if you were to abuse your playstyle Id imagine you could get at least ascendant while being a complete fucking retard
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>get victor for the challenge
>just build auraslop
>stand on the weakened, everyone dies trying to kill me (myself and patron included)
lmao
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>>550634548
>t. seeker II
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>>550632613
just did glocket and used ult to confirm low health kills but yeesh it takes some time to get going and also getting carried by our fed calico kinda helped get me the ornament
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>>550624653
>spread out in the patron arena
Uh...
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>rather new to the game
>dont play often only on weekends
>christmas challenge
>tfw my pool of heroes is very small
Man Im such a shitter but I got no time to sit and learn heroes on the grindstone, Im kinda fucked.
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>>550637531
Just queue will all active and let jesus guide you. Its a toss up if I win or lose, but I have fun regardless.
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>>550637531
>rather new to the game
>no time to learn heroes
what do you mean, it's literally the perfect time to learn heroes
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>>550637531
there are people at the highest rank inting games by first-timing heroes you will be fine
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>>550628868
I listened to you, rushed fire rate items asap, and finally after 6 games I never have to play Haze again. Thank you.
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>>550638323
no problem, i'm glad i could help someone to never play h*ze again
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>>550629549
>"COME ON"
>30 seconds of straight BRRRRAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPing all over them
Were none of them gun builds or something?
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Is deadlock cooked, or is there a chance of success on release?
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>>550640407
the game is like 50% complete
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I know victor is supposed to be good this patch but my perception thus far is him eating shit the whole game then when the patron fight happens he gets cursed and instantly killed
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>>550640407
Id say it will succeed but it wont be bigger than CS. Might surpass Dota
Imho the only way it gets really big is if they ensure good modding tools
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>>550641009
Unironic skill issue.
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>>550629549
>57 minutes
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>>550637749
>>550638046
>>550638049
Well time to get to it even if I fuck up, Im just an Arcanist 1 shitter so no problem right?
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>>550631663
for me it's sinclair
what the fuck am i doing with this guy
>>550632613
weirdly enough mina and pocket i managed to get first try but i frequently play them, idk if you mostly play tankier characters or something
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>>550629549
>patron invulnerable
soooo retarded
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>>550622404
>HONESTLY DO NOT TAKE LOW WINRATES SERIOUSLY THIS PATCH
does this mean conversely high winrates are a problem as it means any dumbass could pick those heroes up and win their first game
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>>550643454
>any dumbass could pick those heroes up and win their first game
yeah
they tell you so on the menu that your matches will be sorted by total playtime on those characters
so more often then not if you're playing someone youve dumped a whopping 0 mins on they'll usually throw you in a match 2 below your rank or something, honestly its hard to properly judge rank anymore between smurfs and new players out the ass nowadays
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>>550631663
Grey Talon, Holliday and Mina. I dont like this frail fuckers.
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>>550644048
>if you're playing someone youve dumped a whopping 0 mins on they'll usually throw you in a match 2 below your rank or something
yep it's kinda fucked
even though i had a grand total of 1 game with calico before, this was basically a bot match
it's better than getting raped on my own rank for picking a hero i have 0 games on i guess
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>>550642867
>t. over farmed Wraith main
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>>550644717
all invulnerability in this game is retarded. They could have given 90% dmg reduction and been fine. Now the game feels like shit to play
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>>550645026
Thanks for your input m1gger
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
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>>550645270
invulnerability is mostly used to cuck spirit characters from taking towers far away. You are a fucktard
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inhouse doko
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which version of Holliday is easiest, gun or spirit? I just want the ornament
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>>550645424
>but don't you SEE, spiritgoy? if the game had no more invulnerabilities, it would benefit YOU, not ME! eheheheheh...
The m1jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
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So has anyone actually done anything interesting witth a snowball yet? I keep going backwards and forwards on whether I can actually be bothered with the challenge or not
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>>550645905
you can throw it
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CW3NH CW3NH CW3NH
inhouse desu>>550645474
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>>550645026
Seething because you have to actually fight kek
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>finally reached arcanist 1
Looks like my summer vacation is...over...
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>>550645571
spirit for sure, holliday's gun is hella hard to aim
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>>550645571
holliday actually has the hardest gun build because if you don't headshot all the time you do 0 damage and her bullet hitbox is tiny
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>>550646951
you LIED
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>>550648020
Just got there and this fucking sucks. Every time I rank up it feels like my teammates get retarded despite my enemies getting stronger.
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>>550647056
no the 'pit' mechanics were always retarded. Its an excuse for shit map design and lack of creativity
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>>550647056
>>550649127
i dont like the idea of stalling in the pit being encoruaged even if it doesnt actually influence games that often i know im going to roll my eyes the first time i see some faggy pocket briefcase/eshift/briefcase stall followed by lash respawning with ult or something
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I'm almost certain they just made it 100% to get people (forcibly) used to the mechanic and will tune it down once the base changes drop >inb4
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>>550637131
you use pocket ult on low health enemies?
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>>550645026
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO INTERACT WITH THE ENEMIES????
>I HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME????
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>>550645026
>Now the game feels like shit to play

How can it even be that bad? Like 80% of the time my team takes out the Patron their team is mostly already dead anyway, its basically for edge cases
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>>550649803
i had to do something or they'd heal up just enough to beat my ass
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I haven't played in a few months
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So... what do you do as Lash/Yamato when the enemy buys Spellbreaker?
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this game is so shit
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doors with the sexman
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>>550650810
>lash
this is fine, you have plenty of nukes and utility that spellbreaker doesnt cuck you fully
>yamato
hope your carry is online and youve impacted the map enough for your team to take it home while you transition into a frontliner
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I didn't realize how badly these movement nerfs would fuck over Paradox, I miss being speedy
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>>550556965
you here bro?
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holy FUCK does the meta suck
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So why does Seven say you're relentless when he shoots a ball? Who's he talking to?
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>>550652138
He says we are relentless, referring both to him and his ball
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>>550650810
Stack debuffs and hope they don't also buy Debuff Remover
Oh wait
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just won a game as bepop for the challenge
playing this hero truly is cock and ball torture, but at least the good ol' "buy curse to win" strat still works
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>build gun paige
>team seethes and says "omg this paige is going to feed gg next"
>we lose but I'm the best performing player
>still get blamed for the loss even though the actual on meta carries went like 3/12
I'm not even judgemental person but holy moly. It feels like they're angry I wasn't their pocket support while they ran into the enemy walker.
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Holy shit I do not understand Holliday at all.

1. how do you throw barrels accurately
2. what is the typical combo for damage
3. can I just build green and a bunch of support items and win?
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>>550656920
jump and quick melee, it arcs towards the cursor
it takes some practice but it's easy after you get the hang of it
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>>550656920
>how do you throw barrels accurately
this is the only tip you need to succeed
as soon as you activate the barrel ability, use light melee
the barrel will be launched to the direction you punched towards
also, while you are on the air it's even more accurate, so try to jump before you cast barrel
with this information everything else just makes sense
fuck around with it in the main menu or sandbox to get an idea of how it works
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>>550657098
>>550657179
JESUS CHRIST THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO AIM IT? fuck my life man I've spent three games trying to make this stupid shit work
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>>550656920
>>550657098
>>550657179
The character seems impossible to play until you figure this out and then she's really not that hard. Still difficult but she goes to being much more manageable.
>Be in the air
>Throw Barrel
>Immediately light melee and slam it into the ground
>???
>Profit

Pro tip: If you're on top of someone just jump, throw barrel at feet, and light melee.
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>>550657406
on the bright side you'll likely collect the freest win of your life next game, rushing rapid recharge and cold front/improved spirit just deletes lane
another "pro"-tip: taking a jump pad while you have someone lasso'd increases the lasso's duration
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Why does Pocket's ult suck so much dick?
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>>550657971
...and other things Seekers say
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>>550657971
it's literally one of the best ults in the game
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>>550656920
I really struggle to hit with her gun, the bullets are teeny tiny
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>>550657971
one of my favorite things is when a sinclair player takes non maxed pocket ult and whiffs because only pocket players know how cucked it is
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>>550629549
>55 minute game
>0 curses or focus lens on the raid boss
>jumping in pit when most of the team is alive
yeah honestly you should have won that, im sure the meta will evolve into sitting in spawn but hopefully no one puts two and two together before they give us the new base and a bigger pit
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>running up to parry tower
>my McGinnis flings a turret right under it to make it melee early and throws me off and we both die
th-thanks
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>>550657843
Yup, that was it. It took that bit of knowledge to go from being useless to at least semi-helping. Thank god I never have to play Holliday again.
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>>550659769
To be fair, how the hell is anyone supposed to predict that lol
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ah yes I love the 0/8 geist being on my team because of some dumbass ‘challenge’ for a png
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>>550661498
This desu. This retarded braindead event is just making people derank.
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[T]OTAL
[O]NE-TRICK
[D]EATH
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For some reason the latest update unbound my mouse movement from my mouse. I can move the mouse around in the pause menu, i can buy items but i can't shoot or actually aim. Resetting everything to default doesn't work, shit's fucked
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>>550661498
>>550662347
If you care about ranks come back in a year. I don't know why people think it has any real meaning when
>tons of high mmr smurfs/ alts
>rank distribution changes frequently
>insufficient player numbers to populate matches within skill level
If you want to argue that matches are now deeply unbalanced, I'd say that's valid. But if you care about ranks in this state, lol, lmao even.

And I kind of get it, I want to have a pretty rank before I uninstall, but it's fundamentally goofy and not worth caring about.
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>>550663580
>muh rank
I just don’t like having a total anchor on my team because now they decided to try new heroes like the consoomer pig they are making no good decisions by themselves
but go ahead and project. I genuinely hope your children get raped brutally and degloved painfully
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>>550663580
>t. seeker shitter
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>>550663831
Learn how to read. I literally said:
>If you want to argue that matches are now deeply unbalanced, I'd say that's valid.
So yeah... We agree?
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>>550664348
>uh yeah we had a complete rank distribution change a month ago and the ranks are in complete flux and the player numbers are insufficient for region split matchmaking but it's a totally legitimate metric
It's only useful to the devs who can properly contextualize it.
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>getting motherfucking HOUR long games because every retard is playing unfamiliar characters and it's turning phantom into initiate
>oh wait except I ranked out of phantom because i have to play a million matches as mickey mouse characters i don't enjoy
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>League of Legends 2 coming out in 2027

OH NO NO NO NO DEADTARDS
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>>550665997
Sexy high resolution yordles
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>trying out abrams for the first time for the christmas challenge
>pretty nice hero, win my lane
>other two lanes lose their walkers by the 8 minute mark
how is it possible for a bebop to die 8 times in lane against a drifter
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>>550666956
As long as they weren't screeching about "my teeeeam" then it's fine. It's the whole concept of the event, don't hate the player, hate Valve for making the event.

I assume this event was designed intentionally to extract playtesting data, and not as fun.
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>>550667402
Everyone was silent, no shittalking on either side besides a single "gg" from the viscous at the end.
I think people just accepted it was going be a stomp
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I hate that stomps don't go any faster than balanced matches.

By 15 minutes you can kinda tell that you're gonna lose but you still get raped for another 20 minutes at least.
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do we think we get the new update first or second week of january?
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>>550668278
first week of february
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I have lost 10 fucking ranks god I hate this game and this shitty non event. I have that they let it die while dota 2 keeps getting MASSIVE updates YEARS latter but we get SHIT
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>>550668669
>>550668278
My bet is 3rd week
Then election memes happen again
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>>550668128
thats how you know this is a moba
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>>550668751
if you don't like the event just play your main and get easy wins. you sound like such a bitch.
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>>550668278
>>550668861
I agree third week because I assume they want to give time for people to get ornaments
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>>550668128
iktf
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>>550669009
The hope is that they pretty much finished everything before they leave for holidays and next month is just them pulling the trigger
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i feel like the last patches just gaped the bad and good characters way further. Bebop and Grey Talon are so ungodly terrible it's not funny or enjoyable.
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At this point sinclair should just be renamed "the team which will lose" because holy fuck I haven't seen a single sinclair winning after the ornament update (and it was already rare to see him winning before that)
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Also where the hell are the new leaks, I dont give a shit about Yoshi "cracking down" now is the time we need more leaks then ever
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>>550668959
the reason hes crying like a bitch is because he IS playing his main
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>>550670120
Simply wait until January you impatient fuck
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>>550670120
Leaktroons got spooked

Though the last leak we got is minesweeper showing off silhouettes of the new patrons
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>>550669919
His abilities need a rework
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>>550670927
Most heroes do. The latest patch of heroes Mina/doorman/drifter
have clearly a different and better design philosophy than most previous heroes
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>smurfs land on my team for once
Thank you yoshi
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this thread is deader than before the 6 hero patch
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>"glass" cannon
>10% health reduction
What a joke.
>"10% IS A LOT"
No— it is not. A lot would be 30-40%.
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>>550673078
/dlg/ is seeker average and not intelligent enough to solve the new captchas
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>>550673078
>have dogshit matchmaking
>have a retardedly bad idea to make this worse by having everyone get off their mains and try random people
>10x worse match quality with dogshit balance
wow I wonder why
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they're putting me in RITUALIST games now. Forced fuckin smurfing.
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>>550645302
Kill yourself
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>>550673078
this thread is more active than the dota thread and that got a patch 3 days ago
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There needs to be a public mandate that if you win the teamfight on Blue after 20 minutes, everyone immdiately goes mid unless a lane is in desperate need of fixing. Had a game where I call mid after we pick 3 at 23~ min and the only person who showed up was Yamato. The rest of my time was chasing a half health GT who had already retreated behind blue walker and we got 0 value out of the picks because they didn't even bother shooting the walker for some reason.

>>550640407
It's guaranteed players without question whenever it's market drops.I agree with the other anon that it won't do CS numbers, it might not even do DOTA numbers but it'll do well.
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>>550673587
Dota 2 is also like 15 years old, I wouldn't be surprised if at least like 5% of the posters from the original dota threads are dead.
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Stair-slide spam is so gay and retarded. It's faggy gameplay but also looks fucking stupid.
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>>550673078
Im staying comfy until next month
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>>550674373
scrubquotes
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>>550674373
...and other things alchemists say
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>>550674373
>t.yoshi
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My Christmas Quest is going well!
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Any permanent stuff to get from this event? Or is it just tree bullshit?
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>>550677507
you get a little profile badge showing how many you managed to finish, and you get a souvenir on the fireplace in the hideout if you win at least one game
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So how are you guys approaching the challenge? Are you guys just queuing everyone at once or are you doing it one hero at a time? I feel like constantly jumping around between games might make getting the wins harder
>>550677643
>you get a little profile badge
Wait really? Where can I see that?
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>>550677328
find any new characters you like?
paradox and holliday are my new favs
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im so sick of this shit what is spirit resilience even FOR
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>>550678121
kind of grouping them in threes

>assassin
vyper,. haze, calico
>mystics
viscous, doorman, sinclair
>supporty
>tanky
>etc
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>>550674547
nigga we gonna boil you
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>>550678876
>>550678121
If you are planning on doing them all make sure to leave kelvin for last, you will guarantee a snowball kill with your ult and through flair
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6 days until Christmas and I have yet to see any Christmas fan art. I need some Deadlock Christmas fanart NOW
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>>550678747
I think I have enough experience with the vast majority of the roster to kinda know them already - but:
>Billy is still super strong
>Abrams is interesting, might try him some more again
>Gun Calico seems alright - Fortitude synergises really well with her Cat ability
>Gun Ivy seems alright
I've had a lot of easy stomps though, so it's hard to really know what's what
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>>550679769
>Fortitude
you're already taking 5 points in cat for this effect. fortitude is kind of redundant.
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>>550679882
you installed malware for this?
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>have to win to do the christmas thing
this is pure ass
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this game purposefully gives you unwinnable games, and you can clearly tell because losing 3 in a row doesn’t even change your rank. IDGAF YOSHIT ABOUT THE PNG, it’s such abysmal dogshit to play through the forced lossesc and this nigger delayed a new patch.
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DONE. Surprisingly enough i actually ranked up from all this bullshit.
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>>550682003
Well done anon. What are your thoughts on max snowball?
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>>550682003
get a job, man. this is sad
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>>550679882
Kek
>>550679990
Fucking worth it I say
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>>550682003

I wish I was unemployed
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>>550682003
Im unemployed but only played like 8 games total. Some of you guys have super autism.
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What do you think the rank of this guy's main is?
https://statlocker.gg/profile/801617639/
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>>550682784
He only played 8 games bro how would anyone know
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>>550682784
>30% headshot
oracle
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>>550682907
He's obviously a smurf, "bro".

>>550682995
I'm guessing Ascendant.
He moved almost like deathy, but not quite as good.
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>>550683109
I'm ascendant bro, he's not ascendant bro
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I’m unemployed and I can’t see myself completing this challenge before Christmas. Do you guys just wake up, deadlock, then sleep?

It’d take like almost seven hours for just 10 games. And you need 32 win

Assuming you’re lucky and you get a 50% win rate, it’d still require like 60+ games which is 30 straight hours of matches.
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>>550683231
I've never seen an Oracle move like that guy did, "bro".
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>>550683432
Not my fault you're blind bro
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>>550683463
Then prove me wrong, "bro".
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>>550683536
Burden of proof is on you bro
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>>550683109
>>550683432
you retards will see someone dash jump into wall jump and think it's some ebin epic movement
shut the fuck up already, retard.
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>>550683616
I just proved he's a smurf (which is obvious).
The burden lf proof that he's Oracle is on you.
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>>550683685
You didn't prove he's an ascendant tier smurf
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>>550683781
I speculated, or do you not know what "guess" means?
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>>550683828
And I speculated he isn't bro
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>>550683875
No, you stated emphatically.
Is English not your first language?
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>>550684057
Said the emphatso
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>>550684287
just stop responding to that retard, he's a shitlow and has no clue what "good movement" even looks like.
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>>550683424

shrimply an issue of skill
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>ult mina as mo in jungle with no teammates around
>she just straight up dies 100-0
lmao
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>>550682203
it's useful on short range heroes since you can harass decently well and there's no damage falloff, or injure troops and save some mag ammo for something else
>>550682286
tomorrow

Anyway this game is kinda ass and I'll just wait until new big patch.
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>>550684401
>>550684287
And you're both literal children, apparently. I thought this site was 18+?
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>>550684734
Better than being a figurative child.
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>>550684791
Not really, no. We're both here forever, I've just been here longer, but what's a couple of decades as the sum asymptotically approaches infinity?
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>>550684514
Every single ability duration item in the game is great on Mo so you can 100-0 pretty much most of the heroes.
(Protip: the ability surge buff from arcane surge lasts a ridiculously long time so you dash jump and then carpet into ult)
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>>550683424
I actually got EXTREMELY lucky and my winrate was about 70%ish and 90% of the games ended at 30-35.
It's just gambling
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>>550684975
Run-on sentence
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>>550684975
>but what's a couple of decades as the sum asymptotically approaches infinity?
you sound like a room temp iq mouth breather over compensating.
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>>550685157
Correct!
You do sort of understand English after all!
You've got a bright future ahead of you since that puts you head and shoulders above your peers!
Just don't go into software engineering.
It's a dead art.
All that's left by the time you graduate will be the sloppiest slop ever excreted by the AI equivalent of an asshole being reviewed and "fixed" by old grognards like myself.

>>550685183
Think what you will. I couldn't care less.
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Unc having a melty
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>>550668128
We lost all our shit by the 20 minute mark but somehow STILL had to sit through this shit for nearly an hour
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>>550685583
many such cases on god fr
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>>550686212
>43 minutes is nearly an hour
cmon bro
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>>550686212
you know you can just stop resisting and let them win if you know the game is truly unwinnable, right?
you're not one of those dumb motherfuckers that begs the enemy team to end the game but shows up to defend when someone is shooting your walker, are you?
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>unc
I have two adult daughters who are probably older than you.
It's "daddy", little fuccboi.
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>>550686824
How hairy are their crotches please answer
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>>550687402
fucking spit out my drink reading this stupid shit
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Matchmaking is fully retarded. Why did Valve think this challenge was a good idea? Match quality is in the dumps now
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>play billy for first time for holiday challenge
>do literally nothing for first 20 minutes
>after 20 minutes, instakill anyone
huh, so that's what a hard carry is. I've gone 400 hours without ever trying one.
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Statlock fucking suck keks, somehow it's missed probably over 100 of my games
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>:C
>requeue
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>>550689804
>see problem
>won't do anything to solve problem
upload your own match data, retard.
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You know, the Holliday Challenge makes a lot more sense if they originally designed it for 32 ARAM wins, not 32 full game wins.
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>>550668128
Lady Geist on the right.
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>>550691086
The reward at the end is even fucking called MIDTOWN

This was 100% a planned event with Street Brool
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>Down to my last 6
I've seen a lot of hate for it but this feels like the most fun I've had in awhile playing this game. It's been a great learning experience overall.
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>>550692259
the only people who could possibly hate this event are complete fucking tools that take the rank of this game entirely too seriously and only abuse meta picks while others arent focused on wins
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>>550692593
>that take the rank of this game entirely too seriously
Funny too because this has absolutely sky rocketed my rank overall. Over the last 3 days I think I've only had like 6 losses.
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>>550692259
>>550682003
.real nigga alert
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>Ahead all game
>goes to late game
>completely fumble the game because one 10+ death Drifter is making terrible calls on mic

Infuriating when this happens. I'd rather nobody made any calls than one retard making shit ones.
Why is it always a russian as well
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>>550692593
or, get this, some people don't like playing as certain dumb characters and don't enjoy totally skewed matchmaking giving them losing streaks where they're top player/obj damage but can't carry. not everyone "abuses meta picks" (a bit of projection on your part, perhaps?)
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>>550692865
no its because in eternus its filled with people who only pick the strongest character on the patch or one tricks
>>
engagement
optimized
matchmaking
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>>550692672
For me it's always some guy who doesn't know when to retreat and then blames the entire team.
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>>550692672
>your team did well all game
>but they have the hypercarries
>so they just win, okay?

>>550693101
>HELPHELPHELPHELP aahhhh guys!
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>>550692593
>this “event”
>lazy useless meme snowball projectile
>literal pngs on a menu tree
the bar is so low for deadcucks huh
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>pissy pants that has to get the last word in at the end
>you both immediately requeue into the same team
you cant tell me theres not 20 people in archon at any given day ive played with people before the matchmaking shift
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>>550693260
true, theres not even a battlepass
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>>550693219
>>550693367
is IVY the BEST GIRL or WHAT?!
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>>550693375
why do you gargle yoshi’s dick and valls this much for free
slow or retarded?
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>Playing Victor
>40k souls
>Kelvin pops his ult in the mid lane subway with 2 of his allies
They never learn, 4 people entered and I was the only one that left
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>stopping a patron push with your hero alone and cucking the enemy with 50% damage reduction

Bros... its kino...
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>>550685007
I love that, but that's too many buttons in a row for me to do
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>>550694182
>Dash + Jump + Carpet
>then fly around until you 4 someone
That doesn't sound hard
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>>550694182
I'm glad others are posting that battle cats image.
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>>550663580
desu just today in ascendant 4 i've had multiple games where a teammate says something like "I have (less than 10) games on this hero" and they go on to be useless, and there are games where this is obviously happening on the other team as well, in these matches the winning team is always the usual terrorist heroes that show up every match
i think the ornament event encouraging variety is good on paper but in practice the games are being decided by which team rolls more ornament farmers on unorthodox or bad heroes and it makes it feel really bad to play.
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Of the characters you've played for the first time this week, which ones do you dislike playing the most?
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>>550695005
Calico

Aeathetically displeasing
Mechanically insufferable
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Living in the moment.
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>friend picks the game up
>each lobby we play together gets a designated rapist
do they not want new players or something why is matchmaking like this
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>>550695237
>party queue prefers to match parties with parties if possible, and will accept worse skill matches to achieve that end
>2 people with wildly differing ranks queuing together leads to the matchmaking accepting people from around both ranks to fill the rest of the game, leading to even more variance
Not really any good way around it unfortunately.
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>>550695005
Shiv because it felt like I was cheating.
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>>550695950
>accepting people from around both ranks
I am an alchemist 2 that monster did not come from my rank
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I don't really like playing as McGinnis. I hope Graves will be a more fun summoner.
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graves when
priest when
werewolf gf when
unicorn when
rem when
fencer when
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>>550697998
They're all coming in next year's update. It is slated to release sometime in 2025.
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>>550697998
Just a few more weeks
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>>550697998
you have to unlock them by playing 80 hours a week now, then youll want to play 80 hours a week then
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played 8 games today
lost 8 games
not feeling good about it bros
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After the mov nerf patch, I've started an experiment.
McGuiness, slowing bullet + mystic slow + mystic reverb + turret spam
I've been called a nigger 6 times out of 20 games right now, mostly by Haze/Infernus players.
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I love it when the enemy team has 2 hyper carries while ours goes AFK.
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ever get a crash right after game end? and cant view the match stats? i was starting to get suspicious of my haze player and now i cant study it
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How the fuck am I supposed to fight drifter/seven has shiv in lane? These mother fuckers would constantly out damage me no matter what I was doing. I thought shiv had a good lane?
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>>550699938
Happened to me yesterday.
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>>550699551
Add fleetfoot+warp stone and you are literally uncatchable+ easily trap people in your web of slow
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>>550699938
I had one today. First time.

>>550699969
>seven
take cover when he stuns you, then go in after. if 3's, take cover. his balls are easy to avoid. that's it, then you just harass him freely.
>drifter
isn't he easy to bully?
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>>550700030
Aah, a fellow torturer, thank you for the tips, adding it to my build
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>>550679980
Nta but I think its good to double down on that. Half the time you need to run around before getting active again
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>>550699551
What do you imbue with mystic reverb? Does it trigger with turrets?
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Silver.
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>>550702290
Bro... keep that shit censored...
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>9400 hero damage 0 objective damage
>0-7
>19k souls
>30 minute game
>Sorry guys it's my first game on Viscous I just want the ornament
yep. we love this.
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how do i play turret mcginnis
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Is Victor viable at the moment?
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>>550703815
Sadly no he is unplayable f teir, he is ok of you go full glass cannon m1
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>>550699551
why mystic slow you already slow people
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>>550703686
They deal spirit dmg so the qrd is rapid recharge+ heroic aura +whatever debuffs you prefer(suppressor/mystic slow/healbane).
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>>550705957
ok
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>>550700743
it does yes
>>550703686
heroic aura, rapid charges and healing tempo carry your ass so hard what you add after is whatever you desires. Debuff, spirit or gun. Make sure to space your turret so that aoe / ricochet doesn't fuck you over. Echo shard on turret is funny, healing is ok, wall is cancer.
>>550705776
for ult
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>>550706101
(Me) Forgot to add, mystic expension is one i don't see often but it's a MUST for flying enemies and extra cancer on your part
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>>550706101
ult also has a slow for its first upgrade. Even the "learn more" tab for mystic slows doesn't show anything
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>>550706443
Really ? I always thought that it didn't slow. I guess I'll upgrade it to a lighting scroll then
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does lightning scroll on mo work like a temu duration extender?
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>45 minute game from hell against the deathball rapist comp
i do not like the new pit
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>>550703815
Yes, especially with the patron changes
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>>550705776
MOAR slow
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>>550683424
That would mean all your games are 42 minutes on average, or 30-50 minute games whoch is a huge skill issue and didnt actually happen.
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>>550700030
not enough slots at the start unless it means giving rapid recharge and cd up
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>>550706067
it's working
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>>550645905
I can’t used to the snowballs pitiful range, that arc is awful too, I want to use the snowball since it’s a fun gimmick but it’s practically melee range
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>>550708441
both the arc and the range improve as you level it up
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I swear to god this victor was actually cheating. He was double to triple everyone else in souls from minute 9. I checked his account and it's level 7 with nothing on it. I'm going to fucking scream.
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>>550708784
Bro.
I understand upping the damage and use charge on leveling up but range?
That’s a little ass, just want to throw my 2 damage snowball in Billys face when he misses his charge
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>>550708952
>BASED cheaterGOD dabbing all over sad furry faggot and his "mods"
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>kill ONE enemy (it was their weakest player by large, almost not even a player)
>team thinks that's enough of a lead to go mid
>they all leave the winning fight and let me die alone
>they don't get mid
>they all die one by one
i hate voice chat because it enables people to make fucking horrible calls and everyone just listens without thinking.
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>>550708952
>installing the dogshit rivet mod but neither of the two furry paige mods
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>>550695005
Paige
Many people expect you to be a pocket support, even if they're gigafeeding and grossly out of position.
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>>550710313
I have a mod for paige that makes her only speak in swedish. It's funny.
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A question about beebop and spirit strike/spirit snatch. If im reading this correctly, spirit strike does lower enemies resist (so if you uppercut/bomb then bomb would do more damage), but spirit snatch "steals" their spirit resist and gives it to you (12%), but does that mean they arent lowered resist by 12% or does it do both lower theirs by 12% and buff yours by 12%?
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>>550705040
>>550707137
/vg/ moment
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>>550711012
pretty sure you can stack unrelated mods
I've invented a white bunnysuit mina skin by combining the remilia themed recolor and the bunnysuit skin and it just worked somehow
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>>550695237
matchamking is hell when youre new
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>>550711119
Thats why its better to think for yourself than ask here.
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>>550708094
>>550706067
IT'S WOOOOOORRRRRKKIIIIIIINGGGG
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>>550711028
It does both, you're "snatching" 12% of their spirit res and giving it to yourself.
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>>550708952
>15k~ souls ahead of everyone
Nah, Victor is just allowed to play again and the months of no Victor has deluded the memories of the monster he actually is
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>Infernus is still absolutely shitbusted
Get rid of this fucking character already.
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I just noticed that this game is very retarded.
It's full of contradictions, and that's why it's not fun at all.
>We want the game to end quicker, but we don't want the game to end too quick
>We want people able to run away and escape, but we don't want people to run away and escape because player feels bad when they can't kill enemies
>We want people to use skills to kill people, but we don't want people to use skills to kill people so we are buffing guns this patch
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>>550711152
Idk how but I think I accidentally did that with the Drifter Dracula Flow voice packs I have
>use ult
>ILL FUCKING- *chirstmas whistle*
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>>550712437
yeah, its almost like it's an alpha or something
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>>550712719
Replying to your own posts, now?
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>smurfs are now running Victor and Seven instead of Infernus and Vindicta
Oh boy...
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>Victor main during the time he was "bad"
>can't play Victor now that he is good because I'm doing the ornaments autism challenge
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Venator will be the first hero that gets in just like Mina.

>Graves
>Fencer
>Pepper
>Rem
>Silver
Who's going to be first one and the last one?
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>>550713851

i dont know how people vote when chicks get involved
i reckon graves gets in first because muh goth summoner then fencer is last because he dresses weird
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>>550713804
Same, but now I can't play him because the game inevitably gives him to a 30/0 smurf account made 2 days ago on the enemy team.
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>>550713851
really depends a lot on what silver and pepper look like, well we kinda know pepper but her model can make it or break it
if i had to guess it'll go similarly to the last vote
so furbait first (silver if she's actually furry)
quirky gimmickino second (rem)
conventionally attractive bitch next (order between pepper, graves is a 50/50 again depending on final design, silver too if she's not furry)
and dudes last (fencer)
but i could see fencer beating one of the girls actually because waifufags will be splitting thier votes between 2-3 heroes
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Gun abrams is so fucking fun, beats the snot out of melee abrams or spirit abrams. Just the purchase of oranges early makes his lane not suck fucking ass and then you just run around deleting people with charge + heavy melee charge + headhunter + express shot + point blank + hunters aura + you get the idea
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>load in
>riding the rails to lane
>"hey sorry if i do badly i've never played this guy, just going for ornaments"
>it's infernus
>he goes 0/6 by 8 minutes
many such cases
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>>550715219
i've done this like 4 times already but went like 4/1 by 8 minutes instead
maybe playing a shit builds on mediocre heroes all the time really hardened me
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Custom game idea: use rails and jump pads and viscous ball physics to recreate a sonic game
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>doing well in my lane overall we're 6 - 1
>Suddenly a victor raid boss shows up
>My infernus and calico are 0 - 12 on w neighboring Lane
>Victor now has such a massive soul lead that no one can touch him

Every time I'm about to have fun in this game I'm reminded it's a fucking ASSFAGGOTS and just having more money is the most important thing. And because of that two of my team mates can lose the game within the first 5 diving minutes but we will have to play out the next 40.
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>>550716145
Check the account after, it was probably made less than a week ago.
There's a plague of smurfs running victor currently.
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>>550716353
It was. I knew before I checked. I just fucking hate the stat farming aspect of this shit so much. It encourages shit like this.
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>>550716610
Report them.
Valve will ban the smurf, and will ban the main on repeat offense.
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when i started playing a year ago, i got boosted to eternus level mmr within 50 games, i was nowhere near good enough to hang in those games i only got there because i knew enough about moba and fps mechanics to stomp people in the lower skill ranges
as far as i've been able to tell from what yoshi said, their smurf detection just means you get huge mmr boosts as long as the game thinks you're smurfing at the rank you're at

all this to say, i think people probably create smurfs because the fresh slate of mmr means it's easier to get boosted to high ranks. i would hazard a guess that the "mid-high" ranks have more players that believe they're only stuck there because of their teams, and they deserve to be a higher rank. an oracle/archon smurf could easily get boosted to ascendant or even eternus
this could also explain why ascendant lobbies feel indiscernible from oracle lobbies at times
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>>550717419
They turned that off and added the "smurf" report feature something like 6 months ago.
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>victor allowed to exist again
>all the cancer faggots start to main him
For what purpose?
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fencer has a passive that delays all CC by 0.3 seconds while it's off cooldown and you can activate it to reflect
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>>550718153
Tanky
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>>550708952
Level? Level in what?
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>>550712412
superior duration is just gay on him, i've had games where by around 12k souls i have toxic bullets and superior duration and the dot kills people who disengaged at 40-50% health
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>>550718918
Victor has only 700hp, he is not tanky
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>>550720262
On a srs note having multiple debuff removers will never be balanced. He needs 1 max with an internal cooldown of 45 seconds
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>>550712412
>>550719903
>3200 item completely shuts him down
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i want a pure chuunibait character
drifter is close but he's uncool
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>>550720808
>hehe i debuff removed you!
>gets set on fire + poisoned immediately after again
it s-s-s-shuts him d-d-down!
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>>550721408
seven already exists
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>>550721560
The only on hit character that actually gets countered by debuff remover is Haze but you have to be as equally fed as that cunt for it to work.
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>>550721408
graves soon
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>>550722489
his ult is fucking awesome but his entire gameplan revolving around a generic gun steroid puts a damper in how cool he is to play
shiv's got a cool as fuck kit and flips for gunz larping
but.. he looks like a monkey
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>>550721560
it doesn't "completely shut him down" but it's the bare minimum in terms of giving you a chance vs. him, same with fire rate debuffers. if you want to actually make him cry you need to be someone like abrams or billy and buy plated armor (blood tribute also acceptable, it makes his afterburn last a lot less and be much harder to apply)
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>>550723205
billy is the best for 1v1ing a gun carry because you get to win fights even 5k souls down if you just don't get parried
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>>550721560
Yeah, it buys you atleast 5 seconds in a fight. Thats pretty fkin good as a counter buy against any hero
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>>550723169
monkeys are cool
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i don't play too many ASSFAGGOTS why are some characters only allowed to be good at certain points of the match while other characters can be good at every stage of the game
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>kill 3, no dynamo ult
>tell team on voice to do mid
>nobody comes
>everyone respawns
>kill 3 more, no dynamo ult
>tell team on voice to do mid
>we do mid!
>tell team to push down mid
>we push
>bebop is pushing green walker, three people start to go back
>tell them to come back and push down mid
>they listen (it's a fucking miracle)
>remind them we have 2 rejuvs after we kill both shrines, they act like they want to leave, have to repeat myself to kill patron
>in doing this we manage to kill 5/6 of the enemy team, two are spawning, we still have 2 rejuvs
>tell them we can end, get in the pit and shoot he patron
>two enemies come in, kill them, remind team to get in the pit and shoot the patron (they're postureing to leave again)
>repeat myself x4 as they're dancing in and out of the pit
>they all get lash ulted right as the patron dies
GET IN THE PIT AND SHOOT THE FUCKING PATRON
GET
IN
THE
PIT
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>>550724492
So characters have different goals at different points of the game which gives more reasons for build diversity too.
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>>550724492
so that there's variance in strategy and gameplay?
strange question
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>>550724492
Name one character good at all stages of the game
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>>550725402
haze
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>>550725402
mirage
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>>550725402
warden is a cancer laner, mid-game menace and late-game carry
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>>550725402
Dynamo seems to hold his own properly positioned at any minute
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>>550725652
he's so fucking strong in lane i hate going against him
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>>550725483
Bad lane
>>550725580
Bad lane
>>550725652
Bad lane
>>550725932
Bad lane

Wow im nooticing
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>>550726269
>warden
>bad lane
he's been among the best laners for months
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>>550726269
>dynamo
>warden
>bad lane
bruh
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>>550726427
Why would you post that
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I'm a perma-ritualist and I suck, but I'm at 14(?) ornaments with only playing 4-6 games a day.
I'd I don't know a hero or am not comfortable with them I just play them as support. Simple as.
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>>550726427
bro... based
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>>550726609
it was a mistake my folder is full of random junk please ignore it
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I expected this event to have people (including myself) and trying out new characters so some bumblinf was to be expected, but I'm queueing with people that seem to have just never played the game before. I'm not asking you to go 12-3 on your first game with a character like Viscous or Pocket but my first like... four games with Doorman had me go like 1-4-10 because I knew I'd be a weight so I played back. I had a guy with me in lane going 0-4 against Sinclair and knowing how his bolt work doesn't matter WHO you're playing as. And thats just the only example that comes to mind, its been like that all week.
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>>550726747
You are forgiven
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>>550726269
>Dynamo and Warden are bad laners

not sure what you mean, friend.
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>>550726508
I admit that warden is higher than I assumed and also he should be nerf for this, his kit has no business being good in lane

>>550726534
Dynamo heal is unusable until midgame and was pretty universally accepted a bad laner until the 4.8k patch
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character that titanfalls as an ult when?
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It's fucking gay how only some characters get a spirit-scaling stat and others don't.
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>>550727257
Dynamoe became a good laner when they buffed the range on the stomp so you don't need to stand on people to hit them and the 4.8k patch sealed the deal
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>>550727412
Needs a transformation character, like a demon form that lets you shoot fireballs and stomp and makes you so big you can't go indoors
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>>550727816
My bigger issue is how hard it is to even find them out unless you just trawl through everyone's stats in the character select to see what has a little purple star next to it. Some of them seem almost arbitrary, like Paige's HEAVY melee influenced by Spirit.

Granted it seems like an interesting balance dial but I can't imagine what stat you tie to Spirit in some cases. Like what stat would Infernus or Abrams have affected by Spirit?
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>>550728285
abrams would be innate regen obviously
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>>550728285
>Abrams
Debuff reduction
>Infernus
He should get more spread, fuck him
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>>550728285
Its more flavor than substance imo. For example on gt you need like 200 spirit to equal one firerate item, almost not worth considering
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>3 victory
>Next victory is a rank up
>"Hm maybe one last"
>Allies can't fucking read the map
>They abandons each other for 1 fucking kill
>The drifter I laned with leave after 6 deaths where he throws himself under the fucking guardian
>Wraith decide to fuck off to the jungle and come back to lane only to die and give the souls to the enemies
I refuse to believe that theses guys were the same ranks as me or the previous allies I had, what the fuck is this shit
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>>550729705
matchmaking puts people with very different ranks together + there is a holiday event going on that basically encourages people to int. make of that what you will
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EOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE
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Are you meant to get the snow globe thing on the mantlepiece for doing the challenge or is just automatic?
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>>550727412
Maybe that’s the gimmick of that little sleepy guy people keep posting here, his ult turns you into a huge fuck with double damage for 10 seconds or something
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>>550695237
Between low player count and smurfs you’d be literally gambling to find matches appropriate for new players
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>>550727816
still baffling to me paradox has practically almost no spirit scaling and what she has sucks
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>>550728531
its his damage that scales though
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>doing a hero I don't play for the challenge
>do really well
>get a russian haze who goes 2/11
>lose
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I am Eternus 2.
I will be smurfing Seven to learn him today.
For anyone who's match I ruin: you probably deserve it, faggot.
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>metro confirms mina meta is rushing 4.8k

Apologize
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>>550735794
4.8k vit*
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>>550727412
pilot (titanfall inspired Amelia Earhart themed character)
>1 - kraber slug. Charged ability. Shoots one powerful shot that does more damage depending on horizontal speed of pilot when firing
>2 - gravity star. Works like a small radius vortex web, then blasts enemies out. Low damage. If you shoot a kraber slug into it, it will fly out with with auto-aim at nearest enemy
>3 - wallrun passive. One of the upgrade levels lets you use abilities while dashing.
>4 - titanfall. Summon a massive creep from your flying airship. Can only be cast near friendly ziplines. One of the upgrade levels makes it do a big explosion on death
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>>550735794
>metro confirms
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>>550736567
The FACE of deadlock
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>>550737301
the BUTTHOLE of deadlock
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>>550737301
yeah if deadlock had down syndrome LOL
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whoever designed this patch should be fucking hanged together with their entire family, even the distant one.

we bought THREE FUCKING CURSES against this faggot and still immedeatly lost once we had to bail from their base because they did midboss and simply tanked all our damage with mcg's and warden's bullshit, rendering us unable to stop em because they had one (1) hypercarry and we had zero (0), meaning haze could just die ad infinitum and respawn before we were able to drive em from our land

game carried entirely by a single character. what a fucking joke of a development team. gas all of valve immedeatly, including the fat silver-haired faggot as well.
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>>550738284
alchemist is a scary place
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i am about to tell a lie, don't tell the devs.
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>>550737580
>trackball aimbotter that doesnt actually show his face

You wish sperggy
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>>550739235
>aimbotter
seeker detected
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>>550739235
maybe because its more interesting to show a type of mouse no one uses instead of his SEAsian face
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>>550738284
>three curses instead of any combination of inhibitor, silencer, toxic bullets, spirit burn, silence wave, lightning scroll, crippling headshot
completely and utterly deserved. what the fuck did you think the rest of his team was gonna do after you cursed him 3 times straight? just bend over and lube up for imminent raping?
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You ever get a hook so juicy it just ends the game then and there
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>>550740608
>their Ivy had already ragequit
That game was long since over, anon.
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>>550740608
>22k ahead at 37min
>1 rq
are you retarded? it was over
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>>550738284
>Haze

Just nuke her instead of trying to put everything into stopping her from using abilities
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Getting real sick of that terrorist Wraith
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>>550741890
bro she got hard nerfed
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halfway done

hardest were haze, holliday, and mcg
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Ball/Ult or gun hybrid M1/Surge on Seven?
I can't win on him for shit.
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>>550742594
What reward do you get for doing this btw? Turbo snowball or an ornament?
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>>550742594
why was haze hardest?
/dlg/ told me that hero was braindead
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>>550743510
haze is braindead broken for the first 15-20 mins. but then she falls off a cliff to any team with a brain
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>>550743510
she's easy when you know the build, if it's like your first game on her you'll giga feed unless you correctly understand how fixation works
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>>550743510
I had to ask for advice on how to actually do anything with her. You think you can just go in and build gun because she's THE gun, but the truth is so much of her damage relies on building stacks as quickly as possible that building anything but fire rate makes it impossible to win. I went in never playing the character to understanding her a lot more, I'm buying rusted barrel whenever I see a haze on the enemy team from now on.
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I'm like 60% sure that that Mirage was cheating.
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>>550744591
He clearly had the power of Allah (PBUH) on his side, just look at his name
FOR THE DJINN
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>>550738284
why are you so mad if youre so shit at the game, chill the fuck out retard
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>>550744372
I see so many fucking Hazes rushing lucky shot (the worst damage item on her) even in ascendant. it's mind numbing
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without this case of spiders I'd be dead...
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>>550745218
but you are dead trapper
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>>550741105
>>550741507
He only DC'd, he had just spawned and came back like 10 seconds later
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>>550745251
yoshi: not so fast.
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>>550745384
if he does come back I hope he looks like a janitor with the spray bottle weapon like fan concepts
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>>550743682
Buying reactive barrier cucks her lane pretty hard

>>550744372
Fire rate is how you build all gun heros. Fire rate and weapon damage are calculated separately so less diminished returns. If you buy a weapon dmg item you get the item stat+the investment(both weapon dmg) so its diminished compared to firerate item which gives you 2 diff stats(investment still weapon dmg)
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>>550745218
imagine if my father got his hands on these spiders...
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>>550745665
the knife is only part of it, its the fact that her passive last 11 seconds and the timer resets off any ping
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update/patch owns
doubters lost
snowballs are fun to throw maxed out
game is saved
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>>550746128
holliday shouldve been more annie oakley less wyatt earp
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>>550745251
Soon his death will have been greatly exaggerated, and he will then have the last laugh.
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>>550745856
Her smoke and ult are pretty useless in lane so eliminating the knife means its only fixation
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>>550745218
This case isn't running out of spiders any time soon.
That one just needs to be real.
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>>550746379
coming in the next update
enjoy using your abilities while you can bubs
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>>550746379
>tfw no trapper hero that is pockets half-brother from a maid his father banged, brought into the family to replace pocket, given a case of spiders to get the job done
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>>550746327
Holliday in one of those classic dresses that you see in that image would kill.
Maybe when cosmetics start coming out.
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>>550746553
>ult is useless in lane
LMAO
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>Indian Wraith starts pajeeting out in voice chat
Just one of those games
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>>550748471
if it werent for metro my assumption for all wraith players based on voice comms would be that they are all angry brown people
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>>550748297
Try to land ult with no dagg
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>>550749081
and other things seekers say
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wraithbros they're making fun of us again......
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>>550749223
I accept your concession
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>>550749371
i accept the reality of reactive barrier having a 40 sec CD while dagger has a 14 sec cd
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>>550746379
I MISS HIM BROS! he was the best hero lab hero besides vyper
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I try to play Mina, but I keep being given unfair battles.
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>>550749902
Are you rushing 4.8 vit like yoshi intended?
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>>550750750
That's really not the problem.
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>>550750990
answer the question
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>>550751127
I believe I have failed to do that in that match. But I really doubt that it would have changed the outcome. At best, I would have had 2 less deaths.
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>>550746915
>they're both hapas
Interesting
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>deathy crashing out on the metro vid
>his arguments are not good

Timelineshift
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>I'm dead
>fight breaks out on green which if we lose the enemy will certainly do midboss
>tell my team to go help
>haze who has not joined a single team fight is doing the t3 camp on yellow and bebop is just doing sinners
>they die on green
>haze and bebop come AFTER and also die
>ask them to stop farming
>haze: "i am hyper carry idiot, i need farm"
>this happened 35 minutes in
We lost btw. This hyper carrry after all that farming did fuck all in the end
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>>550752365
huh?
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>>550752829
Kills have made farming uneffective now for some reason. another W for the brooling meta. BROOl. BROOOL! BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
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>>550752365
i genuinely believe most streamers and """"pros"""" have no fucking idea what they're talking about
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Getting a snowball kill seems quite impossible
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>>550753467
bro ur pocket ult??
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>>550752954
>>550753006
Deathy makes the the classic mistake of buying greens purely in a defensive mindset. He buys greens to "not die" and assumes everyone else is doing the same. That is not a holistic interpretation, if one were to buy greens and said greens were more efficient(meaning you get more %hp than you would get %dmg were you to buy damage) then force a trade, you would come out ahead on said trade. He then talks about how lower damage means you cant kill, which is not relevant because the enemy can also not kill you. You simply force trades until they retreat(which is better than killing early because they miss more souls)
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deathy has always had dogshit opinions on the game.
if you listen to him you are genuinely fucking retarded.
found out earlier that people are actually paying him 15 dollars a month to be in some stupid ass coaching program too lmao.
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>>550754784
trvke
we only listen to our krautGOD Metro in this general.
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>>550754784
i genuinely wonder if they removed him from the sekrit test club after his snafoo... guy has SOME understanding but that some is underlined 6 times, he's a trench shitter in dota so this is to be expected
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magic carpet mk is fun
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>>550754784
guy has good movement and can play lash, thats about it
really hellbent on extracting money from the community, bit weird to do paid "coaching" in an alpha
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>>550755778
>after his snafoo

Did he try and hack into something?
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>>550757049
he leaked what could potentially be the games full roster back in like feb 2025 or something
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>>550754784
>>550755778
>>550756412
He’s eternus 6. Whats your rank?
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>>550757553
Eternus 7
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>>550756412
They are making bank off that coaching thing, deathy said on stream before it came out that he was making roughly 80k cad from stream/yt. Since then I think they have a couple hundred subs paying the 15 smackers
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>>550757553
My name is Kyle "KSharp" Miller and I'm Eternaus 12, that's double his rank btw and his faggy little minions (you) wouldn't be able to kill me a single fucking time in game.
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>>550757553
Obscurus here, lower your tone when rankposting around me
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>>550758475
I doubt he makes that much from streaming. I'm sure he makes a decent amount but deadlock isn't very popular
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>caring about rank when your christmas tree is still missing ornaments
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>>550758670
people with 150 viewers can make a living on twitch with heavy ad usage, it's kind of fucking crazy actually because botted viewers probably support so many 300~ viewer just out of high school niggers playing marvel rivals to 3 actual people.
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>>550754387
I sincerely hope this is just a shitposting act and you are not a real person
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>>550758920
Im committed to the bit
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>>550758903
Make sense because before frauding twitch out of Amazon bucks he was frauding the Canadian taxpayer
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>Encounter cheating haze
>Hits every shot
>Check Profile
>Lvl 1 with slav name
These fuckers are shameless.
My fault for not instant buying rusted barrel I guess
Is there any other tactics in the future for this kind of stuff? I could tell he wasn't a smurf since his macro was so shit.
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I never heard the term macro in my 10k hours of dota, only micro
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>>550759508
no doubt it already has a vac ban too. i genuinely dont understand how they don't have a filter for play test invites that block users with a recent vac ban.. like vac bans over 2000 days or something can be pardoned but its always some kid on a cheating cs alt with a recent vac ban
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>>550759745
stolen valor from starcraft
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>>550759762
having cheaters in the game is valuable testing data
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>>550757553
its nigh impossible to fall out of eternus. it doesnt mean anything
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Add a baker hero
He can turn enemy heroes into bread
It instakills calico
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>>550759762
vac ban period should be an autoban from the playtest
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>>550759508
What fucking level are you guys talking about. Since when does deadlock have levels
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>>550761169
steam profile level i assume
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>>550761169
Retard alert
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>>550761169
Steam profile level, level 1 means it's an almost unused account.
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>>550761249
>>550761314
Cant you statpad those levels by just buying product? My account is from 2008 and ive been active ever since on it but its only level 15 i think
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>>550761696
no one buys product on alt accounts made to cheat in deadflop
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>>550761696
>Cant you statpad those levels by just buying product?
you can, but the point they're making is that lv1 = alt account
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>>550761696
point is you aren't going to buy shit nor do anything else to increase steam level on an account where you'll cheat and then throw it away
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>>550761169
dont even have to look at level, you could just scroll over games owned. usually its just 3 and their all free with them being deadlock Counter strike and banana
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I’m trying maxxing aura instead of battery and jumpstart first because farming takes so goddamn long and you do no damage early. Honestly, it doesn’t feel too bad when you tpulse and spirit lifesteal to run it down
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>fight a competent Mcginnis
>40k+ healing at end of match
Jesus christ
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How do I win with Seven? Trying to get the ornament but I just keep getting raped
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>>550763804
>played against a competent wraith
>she did 6k objective damage
holy moly...
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>>550763862
farm moar hes real item dependent
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>>550763915
what is 40k healing a small number? I usually don’t get McGinnis in my matches
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>>550764709
NTA but it's not a small number at all
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just played holliday
who in their right mind gave a fully maxed passive that procs only on headshots a FIFTEEN SECOND internal cd?
holy fuck this hero is bad, i dont know how to win with this if im not getting uber-carried
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>>550766210
do you know that you can punch barrels
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>>550763862
Gotta aim, baby. His 1 and 2 exist just to facilitate landing your 3.
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>>550763862
If you just want a single victory with him then just ultmaxx with infuser + unstoppable + lightning scroll and pray the enemy team is dogshit
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>>550766210
Dont get memed into thinking that she's a gun character
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>>550766210
its 20 and when maxed headshots reduce it by 4 seconds
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inhouse in 20 minutes
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>>550766210
It's deliberate so that it provides burst gun damage that doesn't scale well with fire rate. Which is again, almost certainly a deliberate choice to keep her from being a gun carry like Haze because she shouldn't be with how much other utility she has. It provides a way to hybridize her damage a little depending on the matchup/her teammates. It's not interesting but its a completely serviceable ability for what it's supposed to do.
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>get vindicta for my holliday challenge
>absolute ass on her going 2/8
>entire team is russian and are telling me to kill myself, uninstall, things about my mother, how I'm worthless and an idiot. The haze sounds on the verge of tears telling me to go die
>get carried to victory
>jokingly say I carried
>drifter has a melt down saying he carried and insults me in russian
Lol. Fun hero though
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They should make fire rate diminishing returns a little stronger to compensate for the inherit advantage from the weap dmg investment combo
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>>550769147
>Lol
no this is deadlock
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>>550763862
He is a hyper carry unless you play him hard support which you should never do unless you're in Ascendant plus in a stack with players you trust. You need to farm farm farm. Luckily, he is the best at farming in the game in my opinion. High speed from speed scaling with spirit and lots of AoE means he can rush around the jungle, clear camps and be back in lane for the next wave. That's basically what you want to do early game, especially if your team lets you have a solo lane while they brawl. Do not think this means you NEVER help in team fights. Do help things like urn or in fights that get dragged near your farming spot. A good general rule I've given to people that seems to help them play him is: If your ult is up, try to make it to a fight to ult. If it's not, farm/split push. Do this until you are strong enough to be melting people. There are a lot of viable builds for him but personally I think his most core items are fleet foot and boundless spirit. I don't get power surge even though I do pretty 3 focused builds because I feel like you get better value from other purples since all his abilities and his speed scale so well with spirit, you don't want the extra spirit limited to one ability.
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Coordination prevents overkill.
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>>550758494
>>550758623
>>550758212
wow look at all that evidence
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>>550752365
>>550754387
>>550754784
Metro, stop posting in this thread. It only serves to make you look worse.
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>>550766325
no
just played dynamo, pressed 1 and carried the entire lobby cause even this guy has a better gun than the revolver carrying sheriff chick
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>>550770003
ok now that you know, collect your free holliday win for the tree
punch them as soon as you cast them, preferably while in the air
test it on sandbox/main menu and you should understand
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>>550768898
Opening now.
RGRQ1
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THIS is what Mina should've look like.
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>>550770453
6/12
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>>550769147
Vindicta looks like this
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Inhouse
RGRQ1
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9/12
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>beat some wraith with twitch in his name
>ask if he's live
>he leaves
>glance at stream
>see this
what the fuck is with these faggots and their cheaty ass mods damn nigga
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>>550772886
Uh, I'm (basically) pisslow but I'll join anyway.
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>>550772886
11/12.
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>>550773475
>cheaty ass mods
where is the cheat
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>>550774146
creep one
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>>550619028
Maybe, we don't know how that interaction would work. Hopefully he's not that easily countered.
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>>550774146
and timers
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>>550619679
I love this sleepy little nigger like you won't believe.
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>>550608385
this except Graves
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>>550768987
it scales with firerate if you're aimbotting
maybe that's why her gun has bloom on the first shot
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I'm 17/32— how about you?
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>>550778097
>0/32
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>>550773475
Being yellow is cheating?
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>>550772886
9/12 niggas
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Inhouse
9/12
RGRQ1
RGRQ1
RGRQ1
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Hang all dynamo players
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>>550779117
Truth nuke
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>>550778982
is this broken? it won't let me ready up
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>>550779628
never mind. it just randomly started working
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>>550779628
You just need to press swap teams (not randomize players).
This was a bug introduced a few weeks ago.
It's purely a visual bug, hover over yourself and it'll show who you have selected.
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+1
That means you. Yes, YOU!
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>>550779867
ah okay. I haven't played in a while so it's new to me. thanks
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>>550778982
Need 1.
RGRQ1
RGRQ1
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>>550780192
Post Ivy's and I might join after I bust.
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>never played pocket before but watched a bit of eido from the night shifts
>go 12 kills 2 deaths
wtf i thought pocket was supposed to be difficult
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>>550783841
The only people that think pocket is difficult are the pocket trannies that literally only play pocket.
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>>550783916
using the majestic leap dropdown function after getting max amp to oneshot someone with cloak briefcase is something i wouldn't have thought to do if i didn't see eido do it though
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>>550784286
sasuga, pocketards are really slow in the head…
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>when one of your mains comes up on the challenge and you get to be the on to carry everyone to victory
>as support
Feels good man. Get hooked get hooked get hooked

>>550778291
I BELIEVE IN YOU ANON!!!!!!
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https://x.com/bsqt__/status/2002017072185057788#m
even though several fag streamers are highlighted this is a great clip, i loved lefaa getting parried by vyper and seething, its unfortunate he ended up with the souls
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>wow thanks for not standing in front of me when i overextend in lane
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Randomly saw this game in my steam library and check it out. Can't believe it's not cancelled yet.
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>>550788724
i cant for the life of me hit hooks with bebop
they nerfed the shit out of this character since i actively played him cause redditors threw a fit getting blown up by double bomb
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>>550789352
Nobody cares about the bomb the hook is the cancer part
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i have like a 10+ surplus of wins since i became this rank, why cant i become eternus? Also im one of the best Viktor's so AMA i guess
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>>550789601
what do when you're 20 minutes in and the poorest in the lobby?
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>>550789601
How do you decide when to cast your ult?
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I'm Deadlocked in my bathroom and I can't get out please help it stinks in here
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Gonna try for Abrams and Mo next, what other heroes do you guys recommend for brainlets?
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>>550778097
3/32
i have the "i am only good at one or two characters" autism so any time i try and play anyone else it goes miserably
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>>550788758
>slowly walks infront of the enemy
>gets parried
what was their master plan?
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>>550789765
literally just go around trying to farm (while ignoring enemies), if you have a good build you can outrun pretty much anyone and just fuck off. I guess you need to yolo if you wanna try and carry
>>550789857
thats a tricky question! to be honest it really depends on the situation. My advice is to try and limit test a lot and get comfortable with what you can get away with. If your ulti is down usually you just go farm
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>>550789586
not anymore, they nerfed hook like 5 times in a row and bomb too
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>>550789601
eyemgaeh, you have to win 15 games in a row to become eternus silly
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Every match I have a retarded fucking Wraith doing fuck all on my team meanwhile I have to fight the real Haze beaming lead through the entirety of my team in a matter of seconds. I'm sick of these forced losses.
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You don't get anything for getting all the characters right? It's just a star in the lobby? Why bother with this?
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>>550791658
>implying that having the very first oldfag trophy wouldn't be a massive flex to newfags when the game comes out
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Why is there a belief out there that Pocket is "highly mechanical"?
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>>550792138
>"the very first oldfag trophy"
>he doesn't have the snowglobe from 2024
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>>550792138
>when
LMAO this game has a huge chance of being cancelled, change that to an IF
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I decree that every OP image until the 26th must be Christmas-y

Only kikes would desier otherwise. If you don't have a christmas deadlock pic, don't make the OP
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>>550792210
Between his gun and his briefcase he he's carrying around lot of moving parts
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>>550792298
i'm going to have violent fagsex with you
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>>550792494
the gun is a nock gun which should be incredibly simple except for the fact that it can somehow reload by spinning and also fire more than once
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>>550792735
...
well he probably also has a pocket watch
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>>550792210
pocket's gameplan is to press majestic leap, press 1, then spiritsapcoldfrontturnaroundcloakbriefcasecancelbriefcaseteleport in about 500 milliseconds
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>>550792460
I agree, put Ivy in the op wearing only a ugly christmas sweater
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>>550792735
>it can somehow reload by spinning
fairfax is known to make soul-powered gun mechanisms
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>play deadlock
>first game we're up against a 5 stack with smurfs
>second game one player throws so bad when he gets bullied in chat he quits 10 minutes in
>an hour of my day is gone just like that
>close deadlock
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>>550789601
post your build
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>>550793194
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they should remove visible ranks from the game
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>>550793397
>vindicta drinking
SHES LITERALLY A CHILD YOU MONSTER @FBI @CIA @MOOT @MODS @YOSHI @DEATHY HELPPPPPPPPPP
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>>550793397
>eggnog
it should be coquito, Ivy is Puerto Rican
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>Finally got a snowball kill
Goddamn that's satisfying, especially doing it to a Shiv
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>>550793557
Half of all vindicky players (myself included) want to put a child into vindicky.
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>lost the touch again and started feeding, losing and throwing games
oh no :(
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waw!
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it's hard to identify what's wrong with my gameplay when it feels like the answer is "all of it"
>>550794774
me too
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>>550794774
Play bot games until you're not a shitter.
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>>550796289
i'm still in high phantom bot games are literally nothing like the real game
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>>550794323
clip it. I want to see how it's done
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>>550793363
>build
i UNIROINCALLY am a bit scared to share my build, because i UNIRONICALLY think that if people started using it valve would quickly nerf the hero (because most people do TERRIBLE builds with him). I will give an important tip though: torment pulse is terrible and should never ever be bought
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>>550796829
Throw a level 10+ snowball at someone with critical hp
Only way you're pulling it off without at least 10 wins is if they have pocket affliction on them.
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>>550794342
SHE DIED WHEN SHE WAS 17 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS AND 29 DAYS AND 23 HOURS AND 59 MINUTES AND 59 SECONDS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
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>Your holiday challenge lobby for tonight, sir
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warden players deserve less
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so fucking tired of being a old ass millennial who only values themself on being good at this game and i'm so bad at it
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>>550797362
>That parry
It's so funny how fucking inconsistent the animation is between player side and server side
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>>550797362
most delayed parry ive ever fucking seen
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>>550795295
I'm halfway! McGinnis seems rather strong! Up from Oracle 1 to Oracle 4 :))
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>>550797362
If I attempted a parry like that, on my screen it'd be a full second early, but STILL wouldn't count
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>lose one game
>derank two ranks
nigger what
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>>550795834
>"all of it"
Get better at one thing first anon, if you spread your stat points across the board then you'll take forever to get good!
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>>550798471
You're either smurfing or a newfag cause only players with a very low game count have such a fleeting rank
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>>550797994
>McGinnis seems rather strong
As a Ginnis main, eh, she's almost exactly middle of the road. Not broken, but not total shit.
Unless you're building for her heal, in which case she's literally the best healer support in the game.
Also, post build
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>>550799254
idk it was one of the top ones, nothing wild
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>>550798690
I AM NEITHER
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4/32 now guys. Am I gonna make it?
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>>550799254
>max 1
>max 2
>spirit mcginnis
>heal booster
>healing tempo
>put heal down in teamfight
>it encompasses the teamfight
>virtually zero downtime due to cdr
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I give thanks to yoshi for giving me a dumb haze and drifter for me to get fed and be able to do the bebop challenge.
Im pretty sure I could have died way less, but I was going punchbop so the amount of fucks I gave were minimal.
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What's your most respected character main? I respect good Doorman players after getting hard carried by one using a support build, trying it, and being lost on how the fuck they pull off the kidnap strat and good door usage.
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this is how it feels to hear an enemy in your jungle as vindicta
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>>550800237
good door usage is the hardest part of his kit and probably one of the hardest things of any character to learn. Kidnapping is as simple as putting a door somewhere then carting someone -> dooring behind them. Actually making use of it is kinda difficult tho if you're not communicating it.
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>>550800237 (me)
worded it like a retard, meant that I tried the character, playing the same way and got shat on*
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>it's another "ornament farmer on a difficult hero" episode
I fucking hate this event so much.
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genuinely what the fuck do you do in a pocket mina lane
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>>550801441
slowing hex so they cant use their TPs?
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doing the xmas quest
mirage sucks
infact all the heroes kinda suck now
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what do you get for a win with every hero?
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>>550802360
level 32 snowball and a star on your hideout tree until the end of the event, profile badge after the event to show everyone you wasted your time
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>>550802490
Mine already has a star? Do you have a side by side between a finished and unfinished tree?
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>>550802663
star turn blue
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>>550802756
Do you think it’s worth it? Should I no life the challenge?
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>>550802853
you need someone to tell you if grinding for a png is worth it?
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>slowing hex so they can't use their TP
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>>550800515
Just came from a game where half my team was this, and then us getting ass fucked constantly by a Pocket flinging himself at us with affliction
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>>550803249
I feel that, bro.
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>>550803249
>Just came from a game
i hope you cleaned up
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Almost done. Gonna try to get Paradox tonight.

Easiest: Bebop, GT, Ivy, Kelvin
Hardest: Haze, McGuiness, Holliday
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>>550803249
>playing vyper for me ornament
>lane is a giga sweat pocket who just dive bombs you with jacket case cold front and instantly kills you
>other enemy is lash
>teammate is a GT playing him for the first time
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What's the most efficient hero to shitstomp Alchemist/Ritualist lobbies? I'm outclassing every other person in the lobby and solo carrying just by applying macro knowledge, but my games take too long.
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>>550804427
gun calico is really fucking fast with cat and people underestimate her ability to rotate that quickly + do that much gun damage that quickly
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>>550804427
Drifter
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>>550804526
I'd rather not play black characters, but thanks for the suggestion
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>>550803249
>Now just came from a Warden game where I single handedly took all the guardians before 10 minutes
This feels like raping a disabled person, this games matchmaking it truly fucked
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>>550804836
pocket then
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>Down to Wraith and Yamato for the challenge
>3+ minute queue for it
I'm about to get fucked and get someone I already did, won't I?
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what if they split green into two more categories
health and movement
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Fleetfoot + enduring + blood tribute
Yeah, it's game time.
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>>550805889
Valve higher this fucking man
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>>550806246
unicorn + pegasus + earth horse is better
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>check what chinese people are saying
>"hello dont call it deadlock, chinese people very confused!"
>another replies and i qoute "These white pigs and bananas have no cultural heritage and are too lazy to care for this, believe me."
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i want a character that looks like this
so i can have copious amounts of hopeful breeding sex with himher
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>>550804803
>>550805614
will do
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>>550808235
>chinese people very confused
by... deadlock?
the fuck?
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>>550808385
They REALLY hate any mention of the dead, skeletons are banned for instance.
In this case, they're ESL retards and believe the word "deadlock" is related to the dead.
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>>550808553
in china is it called alivelock
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as lash what am i supposed to do when ground pound is on cooldown? just fly around like a dipshit?
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>>550808735
it's on like a 5 second cooldown what do you even mean
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>>550808663
they want it called "Stalemate"
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>>550808553
>believe the word "deadlock" is related to the dead.
No that very obviously is the case. Do you really think they just chose the name purely because of its definition when ASSFAGGOTS would've been equally valid by that logic?
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>we're winning the game
>victor on the enemy team farms so hard while his team gets fucked that he's 20k ahead
>he single highhandedly allows his team to win every teamfight
>he ends up with 21 kills when the other players can barely get above 5
>check match stats and he's an ascendant player in an archanist lobby
genuinely why has every game i've played today been fucking awful
this is the kind of shit that drives players to quit the game
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>>550808553
im not gonna lie the name sucks, its already used in so many different outlets and just in general lexicon it was a horrible game name choice. they mustve known this after dota, but alienating chinks isn't a concern any sane person should have so whatever.. either way, dumb name
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https://x.com/MinaBatMother/status/2002235676247421376
>Mina players
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>>550810689
its always the "people" you most expect
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HURR I'M 1/8 ON AN UNFAMILIAR CHARACTER
SHOULD I BUY A *SINGLE* FUCKING GREEN ITEM?............. NO WAY!
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Could you recommend a good Victor build? It's been a while since I've played him.
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>>550810997
he doesn't have many options, all the top builds should be about the same.
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>>550810689
why do trannies always attach themselves to goth short bob characters
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>>550810826
i saw a drifter the other day go full green with just enough red to get the 4.8k, otherwise every slot was green
he called everyone garbage, the team garbage, said we weren't gonna win
he proceeded to not join for any team fights and got even more mad that we were losing
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Matchmaking broke and put me, an Arcanist 5 player, into an Alchemist 1 match. Look at that Mina build.
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dl_express has released for playtesting. I'll host in the /dlg/ trannyshitcord tomorrow because it's annoying to host without good communication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzY-d4A_Z_8&t=330s
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>>550813289
Seriously, look at her.
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Remove Shiv
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>>550813306
why not use an iirc? why use discord botnet?
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>>550813306
Link to the download?
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>>550813426
>Zero spirit defense against Lash + Infernus + pocket
>Escalating mag with her 12/12 gun
>Even with titanic magazine she had express shot to make sure she won't have ammo to even fire for max DMG buff
>Point blank with only two greens
>Neither of which are extra stamina
>Ultbot perks with full orange build
>+4 bats
>+4 bats
>+4 bats
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>Yamato for my last character of the challenge
How the FUCK do I play as her, I feel like I'm just getting tossed around the whole time
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>>550813919
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17c6GVTxZkrtiMmawg7jjYPFgemdHvr6D/view?pli=1
Read the .txt files. Lots of bugs and also requires sv_cheats on due to the fact that the map is so large it reaches a built in anti-cheat yoshi added that teleports you to the ground if you go too high up.
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As annoying as this event can be I am grateful for learning all the fun characters I never gave a chance!! Lash was truly made for me
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>playing against a competent vin
>you aren’t a bruiser/tank hero like abrams, mo, billy, or victor who can utilize pstrike without throwing
>you lose lane
>your other lanes get fucked
>she rapes your team in teamfights in the air
>le knockdown meme when debuff remover, divine barrier, and unstoppable exist (the former two in every vin build)
>literal 700 dmg snipes in lane that scale
>m1 beam rape
I’m so sick of this coon hero. The flying doesn’t even make sense thematically
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>>550816486
Witches are known to fly with their broomsticks (or boomsticks)
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>>550816726
>unjustly murdered
>innocent child
idk if she is a witch
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do these niggers even play their own game? I'm so sick of playing against victor and paige, genuinely unfun heroes. They need a shield breaker item, i really dont know how to balance victor
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>>550817349
if they just stopped letting hotpoo design heroes we probably wouldn't have so many problems.
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>trying to get ornaments so i play wraith
>ivy, talon, bebop trying to get ornaments
>yamato trying to get ornaments
>the enemy team's comp
how do you even win this
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>>550818013
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>>550818013
people saw
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>>550818194
>beating that comp
there is no other comp in the game that will beat that
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>>550818327
swap out ivy gt bebop with doorman victor pocket and it could win
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>>550812639
Lowkey i just did it on pocket
Extra health, healing rite, battle vest, enchanter emblam
It is kinda nutty starting combination for quick 4.8k vitality
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>>550820674
pretty terrible you mean. no majestic leap? wtf
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>>550820853
Who tf buys majestic leap in their first 4.8k souls?
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>>550821052
good pockets
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>>550812639
Drifter is a frontliner, he was just operating on a level incomprehensible to mortals
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>>550820853
I stopped getting maj leap early when the cd got nerfed. When its much higher than 30s then you cant use it every wave, ideally now its everyother wave but realistically its every 3rd wave
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Seems like the slow bros were the big beneficiaries of the movespeed changes, both paige victor mcginnis all slow at base

Obviously the patron factors play a big role in this too
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Reddit keeps saying they should just make the map bigger. Are they right
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Can you believe it? January update just 11 days (rounded to two weeks) away!
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>>550822202
i just know they're gonna release it 2nd or 3rd week of january. doesn't bother me since i'll be busy playing La Reina till then
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>>550813306
host it on gamebanana
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>>550823574
>>550813869
I didn't make the map, the mapper is purely playtesting right now.
In general the map is more difficult to host than regular custom lobbies since it has an add-on included with it that changes gameplay and you cannot use the regular lobby system for custom maps.

>Map and add-on download:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17c6GVTxZkrtiMmawg7jjYPFgemdHvr6D/view?pli=1
How to make the add-on work:
>https://deadlockmodding.pages.dev/installing-mods

As for hosting, basically people hot join into the match.
>Host needs to type "status" in console and find a code that looks like this [A:1:123456789:11111]
>Everyone else types "connect [A:1:XXXXXXXXXX:XXXXX]"

I don't like the discord but tard wrangling is easier there.
>If you really don't want to join fagcord just add me on steam:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/1pink/
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>>550822065
4 lanes was better in every way
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>>550822065
No
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>dude check out this cool mod on youtube
>link in description
>discord
Every time
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>>550825892
just grab then leave
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>>550826093
t data broker

You will never get my product preferences
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>>550826349
everyone knows you're a furry already
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It has come to my attention that people think mo is ez because they only play him pick

Also swifterstriker sucks
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>>550827019
To be honest as Mo you are an ult bot unless you go full brawler, and even then you are not that good of a brawler compared to like billy.
The execution in him is moved to knowledge check and having map awareness, which is a skill that is not really clear to notice, not surprised people think mo is easy.
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>>550826093
Why the fuck do i have to join some gay discord for you to share another link?
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New thematic MnK build, I call it, Slow-Mo
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>>550831939
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>>550831939
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>>550740608
>8 fucking points
this is the caliber of retard posting 'juicy' clips
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>>550810826
what do i do when i'm 1/8 after buying multiple green items



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