More Larry edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>550584898>Thread QuestionWhy aren't you playing the Dark Heresy Alpha yet
I MUST HAVE MY DOLLIES
I wanna smooch Cassia so bad bros...
>>550644576LMAO
Is the psyker an official character or a generic one? His portrait looks super generic and he wasn't in the original announced lineup.
>mortismal hates the alphait's over
>>550644939What did he say?
>>550644918His model and portrait are placeholders
>>550644939I thought he was bought and paid for shill
>>550644886The helmet stays ON
>>550644939Impossible he liked veil guard
I like the soundtracks for the battles in Dark Heresy
No dolly no buy
>>550644918He's some asian dude in the previews. His full portrait must be unfinished
>>550644576Larry is actually a Man of Iron pretending to be an eldar. That's not a helmet, that's his head.
>>550645360This portrait looks even worse than the placeholder.
>adding randomly physicsNow I will buy your game.
speaking of psyker portraits I hope the DH ones aren't bald and ugly
Baldur's Gate 3 bros?
Dark Heresy is going to give the red highlighter fag an aneurysm
>>550645360>we have Kim Katsuragi at home
What is the best crpg romance if cuckolding turns me on?
>>550644576>Why aren't you playing the Dark Heresy Alpha yetBECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LEAKED IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>550644939You got me to actually skim through it and he said he liked it you fuck
>>550645881>owlcat games
>>550644939>paid shill that liked shitguardHoly shit Dark Heresy is gonna be a masterpiece
>>550645360Didn't stop them from giving Saardar the placeholder
The most based thing about Dark Heresy is that it shits on speedreaders and brainlets. You actually need to read the clues and match them up with what you heard from NPCs + companions to deduct what's more likely. And the quest choices too, you need to know context. But this is assuming it will be like this the entire game and not just frontloaded like RT where pre Act 3 is kino design and then falls apart afterwards.
How is Swordhaven? Anybody playing?
>>550645881
>>550646348Just stick your finger in the hole, bro.
Someone post english and Russian localisation files at least please
>>550646124I hope they cram even more novel into itDH looks way better
Owlcat is currently the number one crpg studio in russia and africa, you think they care what some 4chan schizos think?
>>550645360>First female companion is a black human AGAINWhy are Owlcat like this? Did this shit in WOTR and Rogue Trader too.
>>550646021Jae is the best for this.
>>550646830Who is Argenta and Camellia
>>550647043Argenta joins after Idira. And camilla after seelah
>>550647043You get idira first and seelah first, you would know that if you actually played the game.
>>550647043You get both Idira and Seelah before them
>>550646348Owlcat has a thing with filling their games with unispired and boring "gimmicks" that never really add shit to the gameplay or story (the "military campaing" in WOTR was a joke)I just hope we can get some decent interactions, I don't know why but I got some Disco Elysium vibes from certain bits in the trailer
Where to keep an eye out for leaked alpha files though?
>>550647153>>550647159>>550647164you really mad about that
Owlcat has been woke communist trash from the beginning idk how any of this is surprising
>>550647212Investigations look great imo and are tied to the plot and gameplay loop it seems, not random isolated shit (so far)
>>550647043You get Idira before Argenta. Seelah and Camellia join at the same time so they both count as first.
>40k meets disco elysium Based or cringe?
>>550646573mehI haven't progressed very much yet but I feel uninspired so far. >character creation is standard, choose gender, choose name, choose stats, choose background like noble etc. (which affects stat distribution)>no magic>only human race>got given mcguffin amulet from random dying man and told to take it to a temple>bunch of people around campfire, I randomly got assigned the rogue-ish character, who just talks about following you for some reason.>not sure which criteria determines who you get, the other randoms just stay around the campfire and refuse to follow you>fought some wolvesgives me Black Geyser vibes for some reason
nobody posted this yet
>>550646830It is a winning formula. All of their games are blockbuster hits which means black dollies first = good.
>>550647658>As a dogmatic, this is wrong, but as a researcher, ehhh go aheadBased.
>>550647212>unispired and boring "gimmicks"The word you're looking for is "kino"
>>550647282No, I was just correcting youI really don't care, Idira was greatSeelah however was a disgrace
>>550647882Playing homm but it feels like a shitty mobile game isnt "kino"
>>550647282Yes, I'm really mad that you are factually incorrect
>>550647950>knockoff homm in my crpgyes it's kino, i guess if the only thing you like is CRPGs it might filter you
Seelah should have been Irish since Irish women are pretty much paladins irl.
I like the RT planet managementwhat is even more baffling that the last DLC didn't add the medieval planet to your protectorate. Which give a gimmick if you won't continue it in the DLC?
>>550648228It's too fucking shallow though.
>>550647950The Crusade is one of the best parts of WotR and the game would've been lesser without it. Yes, it's unbalanced as shit but it's still fun.
>>550644576>Why aren't you playing the Dark Heresy Alpha yetbecause it hasn't been leaked and i am not paying an extra 40 to play a fucking Alpha, i love Owlcat games and i will likely love this game too but thats just not something i'm gonna do, i will play the shit out of it the moment it gets leaked though
I'm scared to press playWhat if it's shit
>>550647658I will have sex with this
What even is the Gold Dragon mythic? How does a guy choose to become a dragon?
>>550648595Your mom gave you the freedom to choose.
>>550648595you're not really "a guy"
>>550648530What a pussy lmao. You can always cope by saying it's alpha
>>550648595Play the game
>>550648595It's retarded is what it is
>>550647517Seelah technically joins like, one hallway before Camellia.
Man, can owlcat hurry up and release the last 2 RT dlcs? I refuse to play it until then.
>>550649281just play it, with how many damn companions are in the game now, it's impossible to fully experience it in one playthrough
Haymar seems extremely gay somehowJust his overall appearance
>>550645575What game?
>>550649423I think you should try rewiring your brain away from seeing masculine men as gay. Or is the sweaty hair getting to you?
>>550649423Seems extremely based desu. Rogue Trader is missing a himbo specializing in autorifles and other conventional weaponry.
>>550649423more like gaymar lmao
>>550649423Why does owlcat keep making all these disgusting hot sexy sweaty muscular men. It's so gay that you look at them and just want to fuck them.
>>550649423What gave you that idea, the cigar, the blade polishing or him carrying around big guns?
Why does owlcat keep putting idiras,seelahs and solomornes into their games? No one wants that.
Epione is pretty cute frankly
>>550649791Gotta pander to African fanbase.
>>550649658Harrim is a dorfTristian is a twinkDaeran was a twinkWoljif was a streetratAbelard is a grizzled vetHeinrix was a noblemanPasqal is a mechanicusThere literally isn't a single hot sweaty dude in all of Owlcat's games.
>>550649978All 200 of them?
>>550644576>Why aren't you playing the Dark Heresy Alpha yetCan't imagine playing alpha of a story heavy game like crpgI played alpha of Endless Legend 2 recently and wanted to try DoW4, but krauts didn't select me.But fuck playing alphas of crpgs
>>550649423Nice arms
>>550649743The gay smirk. Same as Ulbrig.
>>550649423>He doubted Emet-selch
>>550649990You forgot about how disgusting and sexy Ulfar and Ulbrig wereI just look into their eyes and can't stop thinking about how much I want them to plow me and it's Owlcat's fault
>>550649743What cigar?
>>550649990>Heinrix was a nobleman>not hot and sweatyExcuse me? I will not tolerate such slander
Nice going Gaymar. You broke your arms turning that valve. What's the next step in your master plan?
>>550650417>new injury systemare the traumas you get not random anymore?
>>550650417>le rambo tough guy>breaks his nail turning a valve>cries
>>550650050You play the beta so you can make your character before the game is out and don't spend a million hours restarting
>>550650417Catachan's strongest jungle fighter lole
>>550649423hes hot but I still want Larry
>>550649909Seelah just can't stop getting mogged by Warhammer queens.
>>550650556Not sure so far but it does appear so.
>>550650556seems like any damage taken to wounds has a chance to give you a crit injury based on the location you took damage from
>>550650417Uh, qt alert!
Saw the Mort video and it looks like they added VATS to Dark Heresy. SniperCHADS fucking won.
>>550650880I didn't even notice that. Is that your moe blob waifu option
>>550650880There are two mercs in the party for some reason. I didn't put them there. Also there was an option to choose a backstory. I guess that's filling in for an opening act which is yet to be written.
>>550650216Oh, I mistook his scar for him smoking.
There's real people here who spent 80 american dollars so they can play the game early and complain about not wanting to fuck anyone
>>550644939his favourite dragone age game is failguard, he also likes diablo 4 and starfield
>>550650993She's "Mercenary Leader"I like how she has a noose for a collar.
>>550650969>vatsHoly zoomer
Most of the studio is in agreement about our feelings about "wife-oos" and the types of players that this sort of thing attracts. There are a few loud voices who say it's important, but honestly considering who they are and their general demeanor (and hygiene) their advocacy actually works even further against us going down that route.We can't outwardly state this due to how... enthusiastic some of the kind of "dolly" players are, but again most of the studio is in agreement that we're not interested in catering to them.
No voice acting whatsoever so far. Not even barks upon movement. Guess it hasn't been recorded yet.
"OK Larry, got it."
>>550651232>stomach scarsI hope we can pick that for our character
>>550651405I really like John Heresy's portrait desu. Fits the detective noir aesthetic perfectly.
>>550651405So instead of "Elantach" you are "Small Creature". Femcels will melt.Ok it's pretty clear he's the designated female romance.
>>550651405>manlet in rt>manlet in dh
They seem to be trying to make the skill checks a little more interesting. Here I need to find a rope before even attempting the check.
>>550649423How? Dude just looks like a badass vietnam vet. I fail to see what's gay about him.
What game is harder WOTR or UnderRail?
Hope there's a Germanic blonde inquisitor waifu later. Females are already eating good with Haymar and Larry.
>>550651875The face. Something about the eyes and the smirk.
Werglia says its good
>>550651875It's because you're not a repressed homo
>>550651875Nothing. They want to be railed by sweaty men and project that fantasy onto the portrait.
>>550652128I trust the Serb.
I wonder who this is forI found it in a heap of rubbish
>>550652128If a slav says it's good then it's good
>>550651875Repressed homosexuals.>That man is an image of masculinity>I bet he's fucking gay
>>550650417Who are these two, do they have any dialogue or are they filler mercs, what archetypes?
>>550651875The performative way he's gripping that knifeThat's not how you clean or sharpen a blade.
Owlcat's 3D modeling is getting a lot better desu. We're a long way from the featureless dolls of Kingmaker.
>>550652128He did say the mass surrender can feel odd at times
>>550649423it annoys me that they clearly know that the Catachan Knife is important, he gets a special one, most of his shots in the trailer have him use it, his new character art has it on full displaybut his base stats only have the default weapon skill so he will never use it until they get to Arch-Militant
>>550652674Why is the knife important? I don't know the lore on these guys. I'd assumed they'd fight with rifles and shotguns. Is the knife not just for aesthetics?
>>550649423getting sosiel vibes
>>550652824Trademark weapon.
>>550652606Accurately modelled kroot vagina bones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1pq5mxj/all_portraits_in_the_dark_heresy_alpha/Saro's portrait is finished-ish
>>550652824They use it in jungles, they are like rambo troopers from jungle world.
>>550652606I'm hyped about this bird bitch
>>550652525The guy on the left is literally the same portrait as MC. It's the two mercs you get. I assume those are the potential player portraits
>>550653241I play for she
So what's the /crpgg/dict? Any smoochable dolls?
>>550653241Out of the NPCs haven't seen her mentioned yet, what is she? Anyone meet her yet
>>550652564>That's not how you clean or sharpen a blade.As if you'd know anything about that
>>550653593>>550653565Sexo alert.
>>550653241>young chordaWOULD
>>550653565I'm very pleased with the portraits
>>550652525Yeah they're filler. Probably will be replaced by proper characters later. No dialogue for them so far.One is an operative and one is an officer.Now, interestingly, the operative is simply John Acolyte with a very dark filter. And the Merc Leader is some lady we haven't seen yet, likewise with a dark filter. I've enhanced them both with photoshop.So it's possible you're looking at one of the yet-to-be-announced female companions, with her portrait being used as placeholder for a merc.
>>550650880>>550651232>>550652525That's Jane Heresy aka femMC
a black woman is vivisecting, listen and learn
>>550653895>the waifu is youJust like it was in RT
>>550653483On second thought yeah you're right, the girl is one of the player portraits. Man I'm dumb.This is the woman who will get half-eldar babies pounded into her in the ending slides.
>>550653241
>>550654119sexo but not sure why Incendia is in the files
>>550653593I've been in work coma, who dat?
>>550654191It doesn't say it's Incendia
>>550649423Imagine what we could have had
>>550653241I don't get why they didn't use this >>550654191It could be a relative and not her
but why isn't the kroot male and the eldar female, curious?and the sex-free xeno romance is female and the sexual one is male...hmmm
>>550654207We just don't know
>Argenta>Cassia>Jae>Yrliet>KibellahThey gave us 5 cute girls before.Now they give us 0.
>>550654289>>550654378oh you're right, might just be a nod to RT with her being part of the Dynasty
>>550654528Epione is cuteYrliet is mid
>>550654528Epione moggs all of them with her stern sexy attitude and aggressive deadpan humor.
>>550654528All of those besides Argenta are ugly
>>550654528it's over...
>>550654606>>550654661She's hideous and has a bitchy personality.Nobody actually thinks she's cute. Now shut the fuck up with your shitposts that everyone can see through.
>Yrliet won't touch the human she's romancing and that forgave all her bullshit and helped her with everything after a long time of traveling>Larry wants to casually pat Ogryns he met yesterday but only stops himself to not come across as creepyYou can't make this shit up
>>550654806Epione could probably help you take your meds
>>550654806>t. Shitposter everyone can see through
>>550654881what's the tactical advantage of boobplate for an old hag
>>550654909BASEDDDDDDDDD LARRY WILL TOUCH FEMCELS
>>550654806take your meds, we all LOVE epione here
What’re the backgrounds for DH?
>>550654806These are the same people who thought Idira and Camellia were attractive
Looks like there's an armor durability system now.
>>550654942My only real cope there is that the SOBs are a blatant loophole abuse of the rule that "men cannot bear arms" for the Ecclesiarchy or some sect. So them having boobplates to show they're women is... justifiable I guess. Personally I think it looks goofy.>>550655153>Gear durabilityYou just know there's some rust mist or something that will drain it to 0. Can't wait.
>>550655153I think that's just armor health in combat, like a medkit restores health that restores armor
>>550655108>These are the same people who thought Idira and Camellia were attractiveThey are though? Camellia is the second cutest female after Arue, it's just her revolting personality that sucks.Idira is the second cutest female after Argenta.
>>550654909Yet more proof that1) Yrliet is strange2) No-touch is not part of eldar culture3) which implies that she can learn and grow4) sooner or later you'll get access to her crystal cave
>>550655094No character creation yet. You get dumped in the middle of a mission
>alpha out>still melting down about yrliet
>>550654909APOLOGIZE TO THE ELFSCHIZO!
>>550654909mandatory bro hugs >>550655294>crystal caveshe would never do anal with a humie
>>550654909It was kind of the point that Yrliet was a weird one
femcel inquisitor bouncing on Larry's elf penis
are aeldari males weaker than females? their farseers are all female right or was that just Dawn of War?
I'm glad smelly cishet dudes' romances are humiliation rituals, I hope we see a lot more of it
>>550654909Based Owlcat still triggering the same waifutards in a different game.
>>550655795eldar males are too important to risk
>>550655795>are aeldari males weaker than females?No appreciable differences.>their farseers are all female right or was that just Dawn of War?Just DoW
>>550655795They're not weaker, that's just vidya bias. Their females are just stronger than humans because of their biology and path shit.
>>550655721I didn’t play the game
>>550654909RT specifically tells you that Yrliet is an autistic retard, even compared to the rest of her species.
It’s getting kinda obvious that the retard shitposting about yrliet didn’t even play rt
>only 1 person makes fun of my garbage waifu
>>550656252>gets ostracized by the rest of her species>is on the path of the outcast (autistic loner neet)>"ummmmm, but she's perfectly normal!"cope LOL
I love it so far
Bro folded under zero preassure
Being on some zodiac horoscope bullshit doesn't excuse being a racist asshole
>>550656541>You probably wouldn't get it>Well I need it still>Okay then, here's what I can tell you.Already a marked improvement.
>>550656539Looks quite a bit nicer than Rogue Trader graphically it seems. Reminds me of the Kingmaker > WotR improvements.
>>550656623What if my zodiac horoscope bullshit says I have to be a racist asshole
>>550656938Oh yeah? Got a certificate for that?
>>550656541>Even my kin struggle to interpret the Empyrean's signs.Way better
>>550650168This sort of stuff would be more believable if it actually had real unrevealed information instead of the usual "the game is gonna be bad and woke, trust me, but I would NEVER EVER talk about anything that hasn't been show or talked about yet"
>>550655721I'll be honest with youI've never played RTI just like to shitpost about Yrliet
>>550649423that's literally rambo with a beard
>>550656541Aww. Is interpreting the Empyrean too hard for a simple mon-keigh?
>>550657306>game has a predator companion and a rambo companionHow could owlcat plagiarize like this?
>>550657456Ackshually blame Geedubs.
>>550657306That is pretty much everyone from Catachan, even the women.Hell, Sly Marbo is literally just Stallone, in the codex art.
>>550657434That uppity bitch desperately needed correction
remember to max out your perception stat because owlcat likes to hide important context behind invisible perception checks
>>550658107Idira is nice to both Jimmy (overtly) and Argenta (covertly) even though both pose the biggest danger to her
>>550658107>idira cares about argenta >important
>"Why are you robbing and kidnapping innocent people who are just as poor as you?">"What are we supposed to do?!"Omae wa mou shindeiru
I’m excited to see the one husbandofag who falls in love with the ogryn
>>550654909And this is fair and not a double standard how exaclty?
>>550658287We only care about the dolly romance and emotions not the adventuring and saving the world stuff.
>>550658638how is that a doable standard
>>550658638>two characters are two different characters and not a male and female version of the same characterwtf
>>550658638>Double standardLMMAAAAOOOOOO
>>550658287reading people is a good skill to have and lets you make better informed decisions. also they did this in the previous game too where you could perception check through wendaug's bluster to see she didn't really want to kill lann as much as she says she does
do black people count as xenos?
>>550656424I’m saying that anyone who played the game would know that the whole point is that she specifically is an outcast weirdo and your rt is too
>>550658791Men get a Eldar romance: "We do not find your kind attractive, human touch utterly disgusts me"Male Eldar (presumably romancable): "I'll try to touch the first human I meet, that previously established dynamic goes out the window"Women can be intimate eldar men, men can't Eldar women. And Marzipan..
>>550658953Henrix said this to idira then called her a nigger btw.
>>550659049He would never. Stop spreading lies about my husband
>>550658107Perception has been the most important stat in every single Owlcat game since Kingmaker.
>>550658953Only if you colonize them
female eldarfags daily melty
How does Expeditions Rome compare to the other modern CRPGs? Does it have proper exploration and companions?
i do not like any of the companions so fari wouldn't even call laar good, he's just less of a sperg than yrliet
>>550659023why are you dating femcel autists yrliet would be a /r9k/ poster if she were real
>>550659069Correct choice here is sending Cogg
>femcelYou guys are just making up words now
>>550659023>Ogryn>HumanHow progressive of you.
>>550659509Yes. It's a good one
>>550659556But why is the fem Eldar men get ave to be a touchless autist while male Eldar women get have 0 retarded restrictions
>>550659620Be niceIt’s for when you’re too afraid of w*men to say the word
Larry and femcel inquisitor making outIncel RT giving Yrliet the ick
Dark Heresy is extremely boring so far, but at least it isn't insufferable. I hope the alpha includes other planets.
>>550659576Why not Haymar? I'm sure he had worse than a couple of gangbangers on Catachan
>>550659576Saw Cogg get wasted in Revan's stream, I think Larry is the best choice since he has good dodge early
>>550659987I sent Cogg in my playthrough and he went down like he was made of paper, it was dumb given he's an ogryn.
NGL, that eldar dude looks based. Reminds me of the shrieking banshee swordmasters from Dawn of War.
>>550654378>I don't get why they didn't use thisAllegedly GW pulled it back because it wasn't Asian enough
>>550660735Wasteland 3?
>>550660775Are they gonna give him a fu manchu a la the Space Wolves?
>>550654378Might be placeholder and not ready yet. Larry's portrait is fully placeholder too.
>>550660735Snipers and Bounty Hunters are gonna be so much better now
>>550660887Play another game
>>550660735>Torso and Legs can't be targeted since its coveredThat's pretty neat. Even Xcom doesn't have that.
>>550660735>Xcom hit chancesOh boy, I can't wait to miss my 99% hit chances.
>>550661624finally we get a bro companion
>>550659509companions are what you'd expect, ie reactive to events, join you in fights with their own builds, have personal quests, smoochable, etciirc exploration was either hub zones or areas you'd visit for one mission specifically
>>550661569>xcom invented hit chanceslol
>>550661278Wasteland 2?
What’s your excuse for posting in a crpg general not having played Fallout?
>>550661624>*nods respectfully*
>>550661850Good taste
I did it, I won through morale. The psyker ally gains morale when he sets people on fire lol. And of course the officer has an ability that is +2 yourself and -2 target enemy every turn.
>>550661850>playing that wasteland rip off No thanks
>>550661624>>550661872>Just two (three) men nodding at each otherWasn't this a DE thing or something else?
>>550649423it's cause he looks jason Momoa
>>550661850ive played all of them
>>550662006>SQUAD BROKENHoly baste. Can't wait to lose due to things dominoing badly.
>>550662006At least you don't need to kill every single mook in the corner now.
>>550650115Ulbrig looks gay because of his soft features
Reward for all hostages surviving
>>550662034Yeah, it was in Disco. Now we just need this reference and we're set
I wanna smooch her.
Ok guys, how's the new dolly smooching in DH, are we still stuck with what we've seen already?
>>550663070WE are all romancing epione as Olga intended
>>550662132i appreciate todd's dollies
>gay romance option>no scene of the protagonist washing poop off his dick
>>550663880perks of daeran being a healslut
Psyker is still OP, but glad to see they reduced the power of the "heroic acts" which are also much harder to get now since you need to build up morale and can't one turn it like RT. Officer finest hour here is weaksauce compared to RT's, which is good.
>>550663070We all cancelled our preorders and are boycotting owlcat
>>550663070None so far, thank god
>>550663070we're picking Larry
She isn't mute, eat shit shitposters
Why are there no woman with large breasts
>>550665140I mean, that much was obvious, since she spoke in trailers
>>550665795>she spoke in trailersWhich ones?
>>550665627female jealousy
>>550665627In the grim darknes sof the future everyone is malnourished so pancake tits is all you're getting>>550665894In the investigation trailer she gave her own insight
>>550665627the old sister
>>550665627the breast budget went to expanse
>>550665627life denying developers
>>550665627i already drained them of milk
Are they going to release DH before finishing RT?
>>550667043Most likely, They take more than a fcking year to release a single DLC. DH will probably come out by the end of the next year
>>550667043Last dlc will probably be out before full release of DH
Is dark heresy Prussian reunification propaganda?
JRPG tourist here, I asked the /v/ sales thread for good, with great turn-based combat CRPGs that have as little Tolkien-esque level fantasy as possible (non BG3/Warhammer). They gave me the following:- Both Divinity Originals Sins- UnderRail- Wasteland (3)- Colony ShipAnything else and will I get filtered with Colony Ship specifically?
>>550667839Not really AOD (the other iron tower game) is more of the old school "you make the wrong decision and your fucked" kinda game.
>>550667839sci-fi is dead sadly
>>550667839Most of the non-fantasy crpgs are extremely autistic so maybe. If anything you'll get filtered by a grognard game like underrail.
>>550667839Jagged Alliance 3 has some crpg stuff but is largely a tactics game. But different things you do and in what order and so on, can affect things further down the road, as well as which mercs you have along with you as they often chime in and sometimes banter with each other.It doesn't take itself *too* seriously but it's not as wacky as, say, Wasteland 3, which I'd also recommend though.Banger soundtrack toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfVe_zHqlFA
>>550665627Closer to the heart
my winter crpg? The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Special Edition) (modded)
>>550667839Skip Underrail and Colony Ship. No controller support means they're not worth playing.
>>550667043Yeah, Owlkeks repeatedly talked about the possibility of a third season pass if 2nd one sells
>>550667839Underrail gets recommended a lot as some kind of underdog crpg but I wouldn't recommend it personally. I didn't find the builds and combat nearly as good as people seem to say, and the writing was incredibly bad ESL tier.Haven't played Colony Ship but heard it's good if a bit short.Wasteland 3 is solid, but be okay with Fallout-esque mix of serious and ridiculous. (Fallout was inspired by WL afterall)Only played DOS2 and frankly didn't see what the fuss is about, a lot of people seem to like it though.
>>550667043Yes. WotR final DLC came out quite a bit after RT release.
What is the point of this thread when vrpg exist? This is like how we have 20 gacha generals despite having a gacha board.
>>550669973>crpgs>controller2/10 got me to reply
So what is our verdict gentlemen?
>>550671808boomers prefer posting here. vrpg is for homosexuals and zoomers.
>>550671808This thread=talking about dolliesVrpg=build autism and saying "i chose all the based choices and you choose all the cringe choices"
>>550659556No she'd post on that femcel boardCrystal Cafe or something
We need this thread or the 40k fan who talks about build autism wouldn’t have a place to post daily
>>550655795That's just vidya because a girl eldar makes a better foil for the male space marine character. In RT all the farseers were male.
rec me a fun build for KingmakerI wanna be Chaotic so no monk dips
>>550675194Sylvan sorcerer
>>550673370you made a thread over there though. no kissable dolly!!
>>550675347already done that
Morale victory counted for the optional objective of saving the krootox
>80$ for an alphaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>550676628I don't think you were really lmaoing this hard while typing this post
>>550671808I don't want to check multiple threads, and I am primarily interested in crpgs.
>>550671808That place is even slower than here and even more autistic
Where leak?Looking forward to Beta before numbers get retarded. RT Beta was quite fun and better mechanically balanced than the full product, for the most part.I know balance in CPRGs is hard, but between the beta and full release, they just stopped trying.
>>550675194I've been thinking that a vivisectionist archer might be good choice for my second playthrough. Should be able to pump out a fair amount of damage. On the other hand, you're probably gonna end up doing the exact same thing for every round of every combat. Maybe shield-bash focused slayer using the canon character with the overtuned stats.
>paying 80$ for a 40gay alphaAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Whats the verdict?
>>550671808wait there is a board specifically for rpgs?
>>550677197Surprisingly goodMarked mechanical upgrade from RTLarry has no issue prodding and poking humansSo it was only Yrliet who was that way.
>>550677197Epino Spess is cuteFemcel Inquisitor is also cute, here she is >>550654101
>>550677197Retards who spent 80$ for a shitty tech demo aren’t going to accept that it is shit
male elf fuckers lost bigly
>>550652674Knife is also for utility
>>550676943ranged is wasted on vivi because they get AC buffs + feral and wings from mutagen
>>550676943>>550679616Yeah, if you want sneak progression as ranged, Slayer is better.Easier to get the feats faster and Study Target/quarry help
>>550652674The knife represents his monster dong with which is he going to ruin your boy-hole (gay romance only)Larry will be a female-only romance btw.
Why Did the Troika Style of RPGs Die out?NPCs and the world reacting to the character’s skills, abilities, background, the choices made throughout the game, even the clothes they wear. Quests (and sometimes the entire game from start to finish) changing based on race and/or certain stats (for example, low INT). The ability to finish the game either as a blood soaked warrior or as someone who tries to solve problems through dialogue and has very weak combat skills…You know what I’m talking about. I’m referring to the RPG design philosophy that started with Fallout and more or less ended with VTMB. To me, this is what an RPG truly is, and I find it strange that this idea died in the mid 2000s and never really came back in any meaningful way.Neither AAA studios nor indie developers have really bothered to revive this idea again. Why? Why did this concept die?
>>550652606She's a really ugly bird.Actual irl birds are cuter than she is.
hwo has no one uploaded the alpha yet
>>550679930>owlcat in the big 2025WE have all moved onto solasta 2.
>>550679930It takes 24 hours
>>550680024This but unironically im not paying 80 bucks for a alpha thats only 1 mission in one part of the map. That should be a free demo like they did with solasta 2 which was also just 1 quest in one part of the map.
You all keep shitting on Larian but I don't see any other AAA studio making better CRPGs
>>550680382Others being even worse does not make someone good.Like, nobody is making 3d fighters but Tekken 8 is still kinda ass
Id just wait for the beta if I wanted to play it early, its cheaper and less buggy.
>>550680382We don't like crpgs itt
>>550680780Owlcat doesn't have the money for QA testers please understand.
>>550680965I thought they doubled their company size to 300 (almost as much as larian) did they only hire people to do the expanse and nothing else?
ARIBETH LIVES
>>550681187Brother you are lost.
>>550681423I bought the collectors edition, I'll be posting hotglue when it arrives near release
>>550672586If we don't get a Drukhmellia there will be blood on the streets.
>>550681174Just throwing more people at QA doesn't actually solve the problem
eighty dollarydoos for zero dollies?no thanks
>>550679832Too much development work.
>My favorite CRPG class? Why, wizards of course!
>>550682651Is there anything you retards will not complain about?
Datamining timeMaybe a future companion considering there's a Chorda portrait>The morale of all enemies within the Aspis Chorda's Influence is reduced by −2>Thanks to her unique background, this companion gains +5 Fellowship and Perception. Also, she gains +10 Intelligence (Lore: Xenos) and +10 Fellowship (Intimidation) to her skills.Additionally, she can use the {}Disdainful stare{/g} active ability and possesses {g|f:}Born Leader{/g} passive ability.\nHer Lore: Xenos and Lore: Heresy skill scale on her Fellowship instead of Intelligence.Aspis Chorda can become the {g|f:}Dual-Weapon Specialist{/g}, ignoring all requirements
>>550682829play a manly class like fighter or barbarian you nerd
>>550683018is this true?
>>550683018>Aspis ChordaWasn't she the predecessor of Incendia from RT?That means this is a prequel
>>550683018>the character from rogue trader thats returning is chrodadoes this mean the iconoclast route is canon? Because in the dogma routes she dies or spends the rest of her life crusading the Kronas expanse.
>>550683018>>550654119I bet shes your goonable waifu option>>550683419Not Incendia, its Aspis
Some of Aspis' abilities, a lot of the dialogue filed are marked 'hidden' in both Russian and English files, might not find any interesting tidbits until the beta at least>"I've Only Just Started!">"Modifiers that can be applied to Aspis Chorda's abilities that inflict negative effects can also be applied to her attacking abilities.">"Nobility Military Training">"Until the end of this turn, Aspis Chorda's non-attacking abilities that increase or reduce morale change it by 1 more for each stack of this effect.">"All abilities scale on Aspis Chorda's <u>(Intelligence (Lore: Xenos) / 10)</u> instead of other characteristics.">"Dubious Knowledge">"This unit suffers −{uip|Debuff|} Mettle, Tenacity, and Resistance for 1 round.">"The target and all its allies within its {g|f:}Influence{/g} suffer −{uip|Debuff|} to their Mettle, Tenacity and Resistance for 1 round.">"This unit gains +{uip|Buff|} more hit chance for 1 round.""Voxed Commands">"Aspis Chorda's allies deal +{uip|Debuff|}% more damage to the marked targets. After, the mark is removed.">"Lord-Captain's Mark">"If the {g|f:}Disdainful stare{/g} ability affects 3 or more enemies, the next Aspis Chorda's ability that grants a positive effect (but not a keystone one) will cost −1 AP less (to a minimum of 0). It can be applied even if this effect has already been applied this round.">"Bold Commander">"If Aspis Chorda's ability causes an enemy to become broken, the next positive effect granted by her ability (but not a keystone one) is also applied to the closest to the main target ally within its {g|f:}Influence{/g} (including Chorda herself)."
>>550683680Wonder is she is permanent party member or temorary/faction locked
>>550682829basedface shitposters need to be culled
do divinity original sin 1 and 2 both hold up pretty well in current year, or will having played BG3 make them feel a lot worse?
>>550683680see waifufags owlkek had something for you
it's wizards of the coast, not fighters of the field or barbarians of the mountains
>>550683989>not fighters of the field or barbarians of the mountainsIt was that before wizards bought dnd.
>>550683680They wouldn't include all that for a meme companion. She must be one of the fully-fledged companions.
>"Torian +300">"Xanthite +180"An obvious confirmation, but at least Xanthism (radical) and Thorian (puritan) faction points are listed under testing faction points earned in dialogue
>>550683989What about Rogues of the River
>>550683989More like cuckold of the coast
>>550684235Bards of the BarrensWarlocks of the WoodDruids of the DaleRangers of the RavineThieves of the Thistle
I love the investigations and actually having to collect and weigh evidence. I love this game so far
Based on absolutely nothing but a few lines, I think potentially the tech-priest may be a female named ToumaAspis also shows up in a few lines as Aspyce, confirmed to be the predecessor of Incendia >"Touma, I did not recruit you because you know the protocol. I recruited you because you know when to break it!">"You recruited me because you saw what I was capable of. And you've been leveraging that for the last twenty years. So what changed?">"Our tech-comrades remain cognitively impervious. Your favourability index is falling, tech-sister. Renounce your convictions.">"Only the True Flesh is strong.' Say it. Organisms that do not adapt perish. You must yield.">"Instruction rejected. The Omnissiah has given me a sign, and I will resist weakness. I will find the proof, or I will become it!">"[Send Aspyce] "Lord Captain, may I ask you to settle this misunderstanding?">"[Send Cogg] \"Go inside, count the people there. Then tell me after.">"[Send Saro] \"The righteous are always the first to step into the unknown, yes?">"[Send Touma] \"You know what to do. I'm counting on you."
I think this Saro chap is meant to be somewhat like Pasqal in personality.
>>550685112So the female companions are:>Chirurgeon autist>Bird Canibbal xenos>Rogue Trader>Temperamental Tech priestQuite the motley crew again
>>550685112Isn't Aspyce Chorda incredibly evil? She did all that stuff with the cryochambers and condemned Incedia to torment.
>>550685112reminder>The developer is also pushing the boundaries of romance. Shestov acknowledges that a “main fault” of Rogue Trader was the unromanceable Mechanicus companion, Pasqal. Rejoice, robot lovers, because that’s changing this time around. “We are fighting hard to make this particular companion, the Mechanicus one, romanceable,” he says. “And it would be the craziest romance I've ever encountered in a role-playing game.”
>>550685237He feels more like an overly loyal to the imperium guy. Like trying to embody the standard creed
>>550685272There has to be a female deldar there somwhereKeep looking
>>550685335Sure did>She is a pale, thin woman of middle age with a queer, lithesome grace that tends to make others ill at ease. Everything about her, from her rare complexion to her odd, graceful bearing, is proof positive of both her wealth and her love of form and finery. While potentially described as handsome, her beauty is marred by her cold, flat grey eyes and her thin, bloodless lips that seem unsuited to any expression save frowning or sneering.>From an early age, young Aspyce was a quiet, brooding child given to fits of mania, melancholy, and cruelty. Her behaviour alarmed her parents. At the age of eleven, her father got her a commission in the Imperial Navy, where it was hoped she would either learn to control her daemons or have them beaten out.>On the edge of the Abyss she became a demanding officer who kept her passions tightly in check. While on the whole she was the very model of a faithful and pious Imperial officer, her rank and station gave her a taste for power. She pursued larger and more dangerous prizes, tackling pirates and privateers outside her class and jurisdiction. She took to extorting merchantmen, demanding exorbitant sums of “protection money” and turning pirates on them if they refused to pay. She played faster and looser with her commission each day, but as the first investigators of the Fleet Commissariat were dispatched, there came a summons from home.>She resigned her commission in the Imperial Navy and immediately set about reduce the Dynasty’s financial obligations, and to that end she employed mercenaries and assassins to hunt down and eliminate all of her father’s mistresses and bastard children. Then she expanded her operations into the Koronus Expanse
holy shit fighter/thief gesalt in black geyser is insane i have a 63% chance to crit even though i gave him all my secondary martial gear because my dwarf need the main stuff, the percentage bonuses you get are crazy.>>550685112where you able to find anything out about the demon hunter faction?
>>550685579>you can just put whatever the fuck on the fighter thief and they will just nuke everything Black geyser truly is a baldurs gate clone.
>>550685342they failed the pasqalfags
>>550685496Was she definitely dead in RT? Or she had just disappeared
>>550685813disappeared iirc
>>550651865There was stuff like this back in Kingmaker.
>>550685112hm or maybe the companion is named Hypatia>"[Send Hypatia] \"A situation like this calls for the prudence of the Adeptus Mechanicus."
You can find clues which then give you a lead to follow. Here I found bootprints. Kinda cool.
>>550686067Magis biologis potentially>"Maгoc Биoлoгиc Гипaтия пытaeтcя пoлyчить y мaйopa Oдeнa фoн Maллидaнa coглacиe нa биoтaинcтвo. Пoмoщь эмиccapy Aдeптyc Meхaникyc — дocтaтoчнo пpиopитeтнaя зaдaчa для aкoлитa.">"Magos Biologis Hypatia is attempting to obtain Major Oden von Mallidan's consent for a biosacrament. Assisting the Adeptus Mechanicus emissary is a high priority for the acolyte."
>>550686224did they read 4chan's dream admech waifu idea
>>550686224>russikWhere did you get alpha? Cs rin has nothing
>>550660735>>550661370It looks like they were inspired by JA3 for this. It's the closest thing I can remember.
>>550685112>>550686067>>550686224Two admech waifusGod please
>>550686745Unlikely.One of them could just be the Opticon
Octavia the whore
>>550686895>it's been 7 years since I saved thisGod
Sister Septima is a boring old biddy
>>550686745I think I just got confused by the dialogue, I doubt they would be that generous. Touma is probably another companion, so far mentioned three times, unsure on gender, and the third is this >"An acolyte within the group, designation \"Touma,\" takes the initiative. Targeting the idle bystanders, the agent of the Golden Throne conducts a brief but efficient interrogation. The intelligence obtained allows the group to resume the pursuit."
So has any romance with a woman been discovered yet?If not surely at least one hot looking woman was found right?
>>550683680Did you think chorda was hot?>>550687281
>>550687335Is she a companion?But yeah I consider her hot, my standards aren't that high
>>550687050what could Touma be
>>550687502You could try readin the posts above a bit
oh no. I'm about to make a big mistake, aren't I?I've already got too many games, and Valve just keeps doing this to me.
>>550687694>Archaelund2026 is our year, bros
>>550687502She seems to be a companion. Her arc will be coming to terms with the fact that she's been replaced as Rogue Trader by Incendia
>>550687694those are good games, and very cheap it's a good idea to get them now
>>550687802So a rogue trader and a mechanicus lady tech priest romance?This could actually end up peak.
>>550686530Phoenix Point was the first to do this
>>550687694You probably are with the open world early access slop
>>550688272>>550686224Not a normal tech priest lady though>A genetor, sometimes referred to as a magos biologis, is a high-ranking Adeptus Mechanicus Tech-priest usually bearing the title of magos who is essentially a geneticist, zoologist, xenobiologist, xenographer and molecular biologist all rolled into one, studying all matters genetic, anatomic and biological.
>>550688304An aimed shot that gives a specific debuff deppending on the body part? Thats always been wastelands thing since the first game.
>>550687694Damn isn't that a new low for dragon age origins? I never saw it below 5$ or around that before.Bioware must be hurting.
suddenly waifufags love dh
>>550688373Can I fuck children inside her?
Avowed is half off so now I will actually play it
>>550688373Lorelet here, is that good or bad?Her being so focused around genetics leads me to assume she might have more meat in her than most tech priests, or am I coping?
>>550688373>Science demans I study your anatomy , Lord Inquisitor
>my evil half brother and i are finally about to fightis this the end of the game?
>>550688517>For the most part, genetors differ little from other Tech-priests -- they bear the same manner of augmetic implants, venerate information and understanding as the manifestation of divinity in the universe, and engage upon the Quest for Knowledge in much the same way.>The difference is that they are not so quick to judge flesh and blood as inferior to steel and plasma and view living creatures simply as extremely complex and adaptable biomechanical machines. Where some are content to make this observation distantly, others embrace it, seeking to improve their forms not with steel, but with better engineered flesh and blood.>To an unknowing observer, a genetor may appear little different to any other Tech-priest when swathed in their crimson robes. However, where most Tech-priests' mass is derived from steel reinforcement and implanted armour plate, a genetor may have augmented themselves with vat-grown muscle, toughened, carapace-like skin, and organically-reinforced bones.
>>550688304As another anon pointed out similar mechanics were present in a bunch of games. JA3 just looks like the closest thing we have to what we have in DH.
>>550688689hope she has a pussy and dick
>>550687694I haven't played most of these, if one were to just pick up 1-2 of these which ones are best?
>>550688689SEX
>>550688689>more meat confirmed we are so back
>>550688689Futa dommy mommy
>>550688689>admech but not admech because waifufags are boring
>>550688689>cyberpunk muscle mommy in red robes that wants my genetic materialThis is the only way the romance in this is getting salvaged
>>550688357I just heard someone say it was a good one. I'll hold out on actually buying it until I've exhausted a few more options. Mostly since it's not one of the most common ones I hear about like the ones from Obsidian, Bioware, and Owlcat. Especially now, knowing that it's still in early access.
>>550662820
Larry seems nice enough, though given to the same lore dumping as Yrliet.
>>550686493...we bought the fucking alpha.No, I'm not leaking it this time around, fuck you.
>>550688928Men are fundamentally unable to want a true steel admech as a waifu
>>550688928She is still going to have mechanical parts like a hand and probably an eye as well, she is just going to have tits and a pussy instead of airbags and a swappable onahole connector
Elantach: Old and BustedSmall Creature: The New Hotness
>>550689130and a penis
>the entire plot of RT is also in the DH data filethanks owlcat
>>550689282And WotR and Kingmaker
>Yrliet will never touch an incel RT>Larry immediately manhandles an ogrynaylmao
>>550689282
>>550688928>>550689112femcels are so weird and resentful
>fans we want Pasqal>Owlcat: I know!! Lets add a female, more human Pasqal thats what they wanted
>>550689394>femcels About 5% of crpg players are actually women (extremely high end estimate) its mostly trannies and fags.
About to start RT. Which triumph/darkest hour has the most reactivity?
>>550689451Yes.
>>550688928>>550689112Not my fault 40k clunkers are so ugly
>>550689531Darkest Hour, go for the torture one. It lets you fuck Jocasta. She might not look very hot in the portrait but she has biggish tits.Triumph, probably feat of intellectual brilliance.
>>550689531they barely have any
>>550689451They are fighting a battle with GW for the most human, least flesh hating tech priest to have a romance.Do you really think they would let a full blown one actually be romanceable?
So, realistically, can we expect Dark Heresy to drop in late 2026 or is this a pipe dream?
>>550689791I just find it funny that the character pined over was male, so they went the other way to please same audience
>Owlcat rewards waifufags that are loyal to the Imperium and punishes those that want to fuck aliensBased
>>550689930That's not impossible
>>550689930If we assume a similar pipeline as RT, December 2026-February 2027 is likely
Larry seems really nice. I mean he's arrogant but then so are most people. I think Yrliet was the one with the problem.
>>550689930im expecting 2027.
The investigation is pretty neat in DHSo far I'm liking it, it's not going to flop by any means.
>>550689648>pussied out on joker fucking a ship and gave him a sexbot instead>added some random influencer from ign in a skimpy dress as your war correspondent instead of one of the several reporter characters from the other games>unironically bimbofied ashley>entire rest of the game was also bimbofiedWhat were they putting in the water over there while this game was in development
Does this holo-invoker actually do anything?
>>550690516based juiceShame the reserves ran out when it was time to create a fitting ending
>>550690516the dudebro era thats why
>>550690973They thought everyone would love this fucking guy so much they gave him two novels and a comic
>>550691187He was based. If he was in earlier games everyone would have loved him
>>550689097Sell it on plati if you aren't going to leak it, then.
>>550644576Was Arueshalae a top tier waifu because Legends of Dragoon imprinted Rose as best girl in my mind before I even had waifu crushes?
>>550691573Yeah, if he swapped places with Jacob in ME2, he'd probably be much more liked than either Jacob or himself
>let Yrliet speak to her Aeldari kin to convince them>0% chance of success...
Cmon rogue trader was uploaded by this time
>>550691779An attempt was made
>>550691905kek
>>550691905Accused of being a mon-keigh's whore>no! wait! I never let him fuck me!Too bad, Yrliet
>>550692843Amusing
>>550692843>he does not know how to read russian runesSubhuman
>>550693021>calls someone a subhuman for not knowing the alcoholism language Huh?
>>550693021>sci fi game>expects me to read some fucking elf runes or some shit
>>550691187There is a mod that completely removes all his dialogue and turns him into this Darth Maulesque silent minion. And it works million times better than what we have in the game.
that last act was giga aids for RT, that and the giga cuckold plot should never have existed. rewrite all that to 3 different ways into cumrag, came ends afterwards, make that section not barebones and shit
What if epione popped a perk?
>>550694071As far as cumrag goes, the Achilleas Wormtongue path should have been the main one because it was so goodScrap all the half assed "Yrliet betrays you" shitReplace it with a subplot where everyone thinks she betrayed you but she didn't
>"You're in my way! Die!"
Epione Spess
>>550694284I do not give a flying FUCK about the future queen of England.
>>550690516bioware over promised and wrote themselves into a hole me3. i think the first two were the best space games out there of any genre (for whats its worth), in a market of star wars shit
cammmers
Gothicfags, is that new megamod (Heart of the Goddess) worth checking out? It looks cool as fuck, but I've heard mixed opinions about it....I still haven't finished Archolos.
>>550691779Just got there myself lmao.
>>550694191some elf cuckold fetishist made the plot revolve around him trying to surpass a poly elf from kingmaker
>>550694420They've already written themselves into a corner near the end of ME1.Because 1 (one) Reaper is strong enough it requires a whole army to take it out. How are we going to stop the whole army of them?...no, seriously, Bioware, do you have a plan or are you just doing JJ Abrams-style mysteryboxxing?
How long until actual release of DH you reckon?
>>550694704A year and 2 delays
>>550694704Tomorrow
>>550694592well yeah some one should have seen why is the bad guy a floating ship in a third person shooter? it really couldnt just be saren? rogue specter too original?bioware seems like it had some nepo baby writing all their plot lines, with the mopes writing the dialogue and waifus picking up their slack. gayder deadlifting the company
>>550694592All they had to do was the crucible as one big blow up the reapers button without the space kid or the nonsense last minute forced moral quandary I truly don't think anyone would've minded if the ending was just>synthetics and organics worked through the cycles to develop this weapon and if you play the game well enough you can finish it
The investigation system is pretty coolYou can jump the gun, or you can take your time and figure out what's really going on
>>550691187kai leng is a little bitch protected by plot armor even balak was an actual evil bad guy than sissy leng
>>550691905humiliation ritual
>>550691187Remember when he snuck in to Anderson's house and ate his cereal?He's so badass...
>>550663448>OlgaLiterally who?
>>550691905Burn the mon-koaghl, pay the toll.
>>550694704What this >>550694756 anon said. Seems consistent with other Owlcat games.It will be a buggy mess until the first dlc though
>>550698178lead writer for DH and RT
Larry seems like a dapper chap so farI would let him fuck me, if I were a woman or gay.
I have historically high hopes for Hypatia.
none of the girls seem interesting for me
>>550699946OK
>>550699614
>>550700615That’d fit the template perfectly
WHERES THE ALPHA
>>550701282Look up zaloopy228 :^)
>11 luck checkPRAISE THE DRAGON
>>550701451>under moderator reviewhows that supposed to help
>>550702809Now you know where to get it from, you twat
>>550700615Mon'keigh womens is such a sluts
Been really liking the Dark Heresy alphaAlso can't bloody believe it, the psyker seems to actually be a proper companion. I was certain he was just a merc, but I don't recall mercs ever taking part in conversations like he doesHaven't yet figured out what kind of person Saro is though. He hasn't spoken all that much, but neither has Heymar. Lad seems to be a pretty dogmatic fellow though
>>550703379Saro seems like strict dogmatic, but somehow fragile.
So how bad was it? No one ever talks about it.
Varang dollie or gtfo
>>550703623Nobody talks about it, because nobody remembers it. It wasn't bad, just very meh. Especially after all that Kickstarter hype.
Is swordhaven better than atom?
>>550703906Yes, less meme writing and trying too hard to emulate fallout (or bg1 in this case)
>>550703689crpgs?
It's funny how everyone predicted that DH would flop due to a lack of cute dolls and now that it's looking more and more likely everyone is like nah I don't care about smoochable dolls the game is still f-f-f-un
>>550704196>lack of cute dollsAre we talking about crpgs or Barbie Games?
>>550704359We both know the distinction is razor thin in this general don't play innocent
>>550704403I'd just feel embarrassed trying to make my point by using 'dolls' or 'smoochables'
>>550703623Boring
>>550704196nobody said thisDH will flop
>>550704196Why are you referring to yourself in plural
>>550704196Ra'akhti is smoochableEpione is smoochableLarry is smoochable
>>550689025>there exists another application of my giftHe probably means eldar necromancy. Inb4 he's a walking armor himself.
>>550704953>Epione is smoochableFacts?I thought it was just Ra'akhti and Laarthyr
>>550705105Absolutely nothing has been confirmed yet about anyone.For all we know, the only romance is you getting raped by Night Lords
>>550685112>>550686067Is there another male companion anywhere in files?This would put us up to 9 - ,4 guys 5 women. Usually Owlkek does even number.
>>550705268Now that would be an interesting choice :D
>>550704970>Inb4 he's a walking armor himself.That could be itThere's a reason his helmet is non-removable.He's hiding something, what that is remains to be seen.
>>550705994He removes his helmet in dialogue, just not shown portrait wise
Will you have to just be a radical OR puritan or is there an in-between. Say someone who wants to work with xenos for the sake of saving humanity, but would never ever consider touching chaos and kill anyone who even thinks about it on sight
>>550700615Can’t wait for this
>>550685272>female companions>>Rogue TraderI know who I'm gonna be playing. There is no evidence she's a companion or even a rogue trader
I feel bad about pirating swordhaven now that im a few hours in. Its fun and interesting to explore. great worldbuilding as well.
>>550684157>>550685112Ar you playing the game or are you going through the game's text files?
>>550708630>no evidence she's a rogue traderBro...>Before Incendia Bastaal-Chorda, blessed be her name, rose to prominence as her dynasty’s Rogue Trader, her predecessor, Aspis Bastaal-Chorda, was an infamous marauder who dabbled in less than reputable spheres of influence every day.
>>550708630>There is no evidence she's a companion or even a rogue traderRead the thread MC calls her Lord Captain in dialogue
The torrent is almost up btw. Waiting for the moderator's approval
>>550709016I've seen it. I'm still not clear on whether anon is going through the game files or actually saw it in the game propper. RT game files indicated the presence of Vect for example and we all know how that turned out
>>550709150She has detailed battle moves and they left her proto portrait in the files
>>550709150We already know she was a rogue trader, she was literally mentioned in rogue trader
>The Kroot is femaleI am buying her statue
>>550706987The radical\puritan isn't in the alpha but looks like it will be same aa dogma/heretic: you need X level in radical\puritan to use their specific gear.
>>550709706>she was literally mentioned in rogue traderShe's from a tabletop lil' zoom. One of he few established characters in th game
>>550704196You said that and now you turned around cause 2 women were found
>>550709023Yuppie!
The link text keeps showing up in the dialogue. Been happening ever since I entered this area.
Where's the Admech chick? I want to fuck a toaster.
>>550710627Report the bug. That's what you paid money for, right? To report bugs and make the game playable for the rest of us
>>550703623It's a non game in many aspects and the core story is genuinely really fucking bad. It's just a sort of vibes based walk around experience where you get to look at somewhat amusing instances of nonsensical hyper techno-magic bullshit and go "well I suppose that is cool yes". It's okay for one playthrough but there's genuinely no lasting impression from it.
>>550709903Point stands
What did you purchase in the Steam sale?
>>550711058Nothing thus far, since I won't be able to play anything between 22.12. and 30.12. due to Christmas stuff
>Admech>rogue trader>some unknown girlWhich will have the most cuckoldry and humiliation??
>>550711058Just a heads up, Conquistador is janky as fuck and it's also very unforgiving in terms of difficulty. Vikings is kino though. Did you play Rome?
>>550711271I'm curious to know he's going to be the straight one that makes reddit seethe.
>>550711271Aspice, the rogue trader, is on record on being a feckless heretical irresponsible person, so she could go any routeBut her art looks cute so I hope it's the pure love route
>>550711308I have Expeditions: Rome in the backlog but I haven't played it yet. Thanks for the heads up on Conquistador, I will prepare for the challenge.
I own every single CRPG except:Baldur's Gate 3Rogue Trader
What if Larry cucks and humiliates the femcels to make up for Yrliet humiliating the incels?
>>550711468Rome is definitely the most polished out of the three but I personally enjoyed Vikings more.
>>550711648You wish
>>550711754The woman on the left has bigger arms than me.
>Enables multiple romances with toybox>threesome with epione and aspiceNothing personal /crpg/
>>550711945Given the average anon, that’s not really a hard thing to achieve.
>>550711945Do you fight in a gladiatorial arena? Because that might have to do with it
Hoping the rogue trader chick is heretical.
>>550711271Admech will penetrate the pc
someone please leak the alpha
>>550712342Isnt she mega evil it seems likely
>>550712342Needs radical inquisitor rape correction...
>>550712342It's their formal apology for wasting Vistenza
>>550712519See >>550709023
>>550712342>Lavishly decorated with medals, ribbons and religious ornaments, her dress is tailored to convey an unmistakable image of power, piety, and wealth: three things to which the she is deeply attached.[1]All rumours of Aspyce's heresy are just slander. She is a loyal subject of the Emepror
Finally bought Divinity Original Sin 2 as it was on sale in the Nintendo Eshop.What are some good tips for someone new? I'm not completely unfamiliar with cRPGs, but the most notable ones I've played in recent years are BG3 and Wasteland 3.
>>550713306>Nintendo Eshop
IS Tomua a male actually?
>>550713449We don't know. No indication of this in the game
>>550713449We don’t know. We don’t even know what Touma is
>>550713449It is called a transwoman, you bigot
>>550713238She'll probably be in the middleEccentric enough for her to get accused of heresy, but not to the point of being a chaostard
>>550713238>All rumours of Aspyce's heresy are just slander.Probably that bitch von valancius' doing
>>550713306iirc pick a shield type and work on nuking it quickly rather than splitting your focus
>>550713670
>>550713238Heironymous's intervention suggests otherwise
>>550713780I think I've heard about that. So I picked ranger because I like playing as that. Does that mean that I should ignore my elemental arrows and such, or vice versa go all in on them and ignore all physical skills?
>>550685335>they are already trying to downplay her evil
>>550713919He's one foot in the heresy territory himself. Like I said - lies and slander
Aspyce, my beautiful princess, did nothing wrong
>>550714328She will cuck you after you lock in her romance
Are we gonna get a thread full of jimmies with the aspyce simping?
>550714652>It's already beginning
>>550713306Oh boy, you better read some guide.Basically you want to massively spec your character in 1 damage type tree and dip the rest (total lvl is 20, one tree is 10).Also, stealing from vendors is OP for starting out because game gives you jack shit loot from mobs.
>>550714843For a Jimmy experience Aspyce should have a dark elf on the side
>>550714040For ranger you gradually get your ranger skills (huntsman 1-5) and dump the rest in warfare because warfare = phys damage.Elemental arrows are still added damage so you can use them.
>>550715082the dark elf is completely irrelevant to the jimmy experience
>>550715095Alright, thanks. As for party members, do I want them to also have physical damage or can I mix there? Exactly how unforgiving is the game on normal for not strictly following this?
>>550715245Femcels romance both Jimmy and Marz at the same time
>MUH DOLLIES, MUH SMOOCHIN DOLLIESReminder that everyone is disgusted with you and wishes you would just go play dating sims and leave this genre alone.
>>550715389there is a lot of fanfics about this happening. I feel bad for Jimmy...
>>550715640No one cares, pidor. You want my money or not? If so add smooching and we'll talk.
>>550715341People recommend 2/2 phys/magic split. On normal I don't think it matters.
>>550715389I'm not interested in your cuck fantasies, bro
So the Corsair touches humans and will most likely have sex with female Inquisitor.Oh and women have a bdsm elf male they can romance in RT.But men get a sexless, autist that won't even touch them, citing some disgust about Eldar being repulsed by human touch. Which disappears immediately when women get their fanservice just exists to cuck men out of an Eldar waifu. OH and that Eldar waifu can end up with the Dark Eldar in her corsair ending.Fair am I right? Totally no agenda or double standard.
>>550716625Go back to /v/
Rogue trader question!I just did some shit around the second planet (Footfall) and when i came back to my ship it seems that the game opened up.I plan to first go to back to Footfall as i have some quests there, i just went back to the ship to rest some injuries.Anyhoooooooow.The way they presented me the VonValancius planets it seemed to be like in the first act that depending where you go first you arrive "late" to the other destinations and shit has happened.Its not like it matter but i wonder if i caught the vibe of the game on those lines correctly.
>>550716836Yeah, there are some differences depending on the order but it's not a super huge dealThe later you arrive, the worse some problems will be
>>550716748No, fucking keep him here. We're having a nice thread on /v/ for a change
>>550716836There are minor differences in planets depending on the order of arrival but generally the game doesn't track your time. You can't fail a planet.
chorda will most definitely cuck you based on reputationbest case scenario is camellia 2.0
>>550718537You don't need to convince me further. I'm sold.
>>550715389I most certainly don't.
Does the doomposter think we don't notice the obvious switch in tactics?
>>550662132Curie was objectively cuter as a robot, turning her into an ugly synth is disgusting.
>>550715389Why are femcels so mean?
>>550713306Play as Fane and just explore the skill system, craft some and have fun.
>>550715389No I don't lol. I only did it once to see all romances so that I could shit on them better. Nobody compares to my Jimmy
>>550716625Yes and it's good this way :)
Any datamined male companions? I'm not a woman asking for romance, just curious what's left. Any cool bros?
>>550713449I don't know, but whatever sex Tomauto is I just hope Tomauto is some flavor of alien. If we get at least two more xeno companions that means I can have a party with a Kroot, an Eldar, a Ogryn and two other non-baseline Humans. That would be based.
A Warhammer Fantasy CRPG.
>>550721874>I just hope Tomauto is some flavor of alienUnlikely
>>550722213nono more WH slop
>>550722357Fantasy is warhammerkino though
>>550722213Smoochable dark elf witches.
>>550722213Only a matter of time
Femcels Larry aside what do you think of Haymar? Do you find him hot?
>>550723043He looks gay, homosexual even
>>550723302Literally how? He's one of the most masculine and badass looking companions Owlkek ever made.
Between bladedancer master tact and soldier master tact, which is more fun?Trying to make a noble build that doesn’t go officer but still benefits from the origin.Other build options that work somewhat with the noble abilities would also be welcome.
>>550723595Anon looks at a manly men and immediately starts thinking about anal sex. It's projection, nothing else
>>550723043>Larry asideStopped reading
>>550723043Not Jimmy - don't care
>>550722213Warhammer Fantasy? What is that? There is only Warhammer Age of Sigmar™, starring the might Stormcast Eternals™ model line.
>>550722213GW would probably force some gay age of shitmar stuff instead of kino old world
so this is basically just a warhammer thread?
>>550723043I will make another char to romance him but Larry is my top choice
Any 40kek lore nerds here? Do Heretical Arbites exist? Want to do a shotgun build with the Vigilant origin but finally want to try the heretic path. Already did a Dogmatic and Iconoclast run.
>>550724743Alpha released yesterday, duh.
>>550724743But enough about /twg/
>>550725036Yeah, man. Arbites are just dudes, well trained and indoctrinated dudes, sure, but they can fall to heresy the same as anyone else.
Is psychic awakening worth grabbing? Some of those Biomancy talents seem pretty useful.
>>550725036Anyone can become a heretic. That's the nature of heresy
>>550724743>you can't talk aboit a new crpg that just released a 15 hour alpha revealing a bunch of new shit you just can't
>>550725036>heretical arbites
>>550726360It's just 15 hours? rt alpha was half the game
>>550725869bro your idira? your jimmy?
>>550725036People put too much stock on their origin. Point of the game is that who you were doesn’t matter anymore, you’re a Rogue Trader now. And dabbling in heresy is a RT’s favorite pastime.
>>550725036Short of sisters of battle pretty much anyone can become a heretic
>>550726825Sisters can't become corrupted by chaos. Heresy though... Is not necessarily connected with chaos. Heresy is just something that imperial dogmatists find unaccpetable. Like secessionism for example. All secessionists are heretics even if they don't deal with chaos
>heretic romanced kibbles bathes in the blood of young maidens to keep herself beautiful and murders any other woman who she thinks might be a threat to her love for the RTHoly based. Hope DH has heretical endings like this.
>>550726485Idk some people said it is. We'll see15-20 is reasonable.
>>550726825>>550728020>sisters can't become corrupted by chaos.Sisters aren't immune to chaos corruption and have fallen before, Custodes and Grey Knights are the supposedly immune ones
>>550728020>>550729706The main difference here is "willingly". SOBs fall into chaos corruption like near everything else but no one, save for that one woman people still argue is canon or not, has willingly fallen. Mirael was her name I think.
chaos argenta should have been the slaanesh rep on a heretic run
>>550729706>Sisters aren't immune to chaos corruption Yes they are>and have fallen beforeapocryphal fanfiction doesn't count
Hi /crpgg/!Any torrent leaks for Dark Heresy alpha, interested in playing it
>sword and gun commissarAny way to make this work?
>>550731582Yes, just go into Arch Militant from Soldier. One you start all the versatility stacking and get some of the busted gear the game throws at you, you’ll be a beast in melee as well.
>>550732361Didn't even consider soldier. Getting into melee seems like it would be difficult, having neither charge nor death from above to move quickly.
whos this my friend just sent me it
didn't read the threaddid you fucks datamine the female romances yet
>>550732972yes your mom is a option
>>550732883The old SoB early art
>>550733061lame I thought it was someone else
lol
>>550724013>>550724157Age of Smegmar role-playing system is completely worthless junk that nobody wants, even GW. Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay on the other hand is a fairly popular and influential system so I wouldn't be surprised if they return to it in the near future.
>>550733507Finally some /crpgg/ representation.
>>550733595>Age of Smegmar role-playing system is completely worthless junk that nobody wantsAge of Sigmar is far more successful than Fantasy ever was, give up and stop following what your loretuber says
>>550733045what about yours?
>>550731168>apocryphal fanfiction doesn't countkill yourself zoomer faggot, it's still canon
>>550733803Anon's mom is DLC.
>>550733789It sounds like bullshit but I'm talking about role-playing systems in particular. And in this regard Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay still receives more support than Soulbound lolAlso it turns out they're actually making an Old World role-playing system
>>550734045Cope and seethe. Chaos sisters will never be canon except in your wet dream
>>550734262My apologies then anon I thought you were talking about the tabletop
>>550732875You could always go warrior into AM then. I built my Commissar to use guns first and foremost so that’s the route I went. But the other way does work better if you want to focus on melee since you get better melee oriented talents.
>>550734842Either way I don't believe Age of Smegmar is even remotely popular. The only person I know who ever bought that crap was a friend who wanted a Skaven army after playing Total War. And yeah, they were put on square bases.
I watched Revan and Werglia playing alpha these 2 days, I'm actually pleasantly surprised. It isn't just Rogue Trader 2.0. it's a different system, completely different leveling, combat has much more features, game is more challenging, investigations actually require careful reading and thinking, writing is better, graphics are better than RT from what I've seen. Seems like an improvement in every way and pretty much a different game not just KM into WOTR where it's the same system, but with more toys, legit a fresh experience. Call me naive, but this might be the best game by Owlcat if the rest is the same quality as what was shown so far. Alignment and VA quality are yet to be seen and late game balance. Only downer is operative still being meh.
>>5507355961000 rubles have been deposited into your account
>>550735901Ok shitposter-kun
>>550735901Хopoшo
Reading the comments of people butthurt that there "isn't magic in Swordhaven" is funny now that I've played for a few hours. There is magic and "spells", its just an interesting twist on it, that you learn more about as you progress in the game.
>>550737304It's partly the expectation of 'BG1 inspired'
All I want to know is if I can cleanse Ra'akhti's womb with my pure emperor blessed human seed
Going to play Planescape: Torment. What's the consensus on the Enhanced Edition vs the original (or whatever GOG has available).
>>550735596It looks good, but I fear it might be frontloaded again like RT, where the balance goes to shit past mid Act 2 and story pacing goes to shit at Act 4 and onwards
>>550735596da comradeam love owlcat
>>550738663So every Owlcat game?
>>550738516She eats corpses you damn degenerate.
>>550735901>>550738664Could you explain how what I've said is wrong without shitposting?
>>550738817I just think this comment is a little premature, shill-like even>Call me naive, but this might be the best game by Owlcat if the rest is the same quality as what was shown so far.
>>550738814>degenerateCORRECT >She eats corpsesShe'll wash up
>>550738817nah. you gunna work for them shekels.
>>550738814The majority of humanity has eaten another human and might be aware of it so what's the issue? Table manners?
>>550738934But what's wrong with that, what was presented seems really good and an improvement over RT in every way, Operative is still shit tho. I said IF the rest of the game retains the quality, giving owlcat the benefit of the doubt that at least they try to make it so the game isn't braindead easy by halfway point due to it being easy to make broken builds. Heroic acts are toned down and the skills don't seem as cancerous stacking a bunch of bullshit - only soldier's stuff seems to have a lot of + dmg but in small numbers and specific situations (like against armor only). And the system and combat are legit different with a bunch of new mechanics and how build works (with sub specs and slottable ability modifications) so seems like a different game from RT and not just a reskin with new toys like WOTR was to Kangmaker.
>>550738582Idk man what's the difference between the twoboth look the same
>>550739495no anon you need to be negative about everythingyou can't enjoy games or point out when a dev makes a good change otherwise you're a russian shill
>>550739495>what's wrong with predicting a game will be super duper amazing from 2 hours of watching a paid shillnothing at all man keep doing what you're doing
>>550738817They can't because they haven't played the alpha. I mostly agree with the guy. Though I think combat encounters are still bad
>>550739850It's not 2 hours, but much more and had a good look at the combat + builds from both of those guys and looked through some dialogues and investigations (not too much regarding plot to not completely spoil it desu) but what is seen seems like a huge step in the right direction. And I said the potential to be the best Owlcat made - by their standards, not like it's the greatest RPG.>>550739948I liked them mostly, but would personally re-arange some things and am a bit worried about how morale abusing might work late game. Remember Werg also saying he's not sure about morale system's mass surrender option, but it's nice to be able to continue battles and ignore it if you want. Also on the flip side in some encounters enemies to get a bunch of free morale per turn without doing anything and can beat the shit out of you in a dumb way, so that can be a balance concern as well..Also some of the characters have garbage stat allocations.Hopefully devs listen to guys like Revan, Werg, Crpgbro and not reddit shitters. So the game can be challenging but not a nerve wracking slog
DH will be better trust the plan
>>550738582Literally who caresYou're going to get bored and quit playing in like an hour regardless
>>550740570What I don't like about the encoutners is how linear they are, for lack of a better word. You can't cricle around them, ro find a vanatge point for your sniper before starting a combat. All you can do is bumrush it like a retard which has been the case for all their games. The only encounters in rt that I can remember being able to somewhat change thing up were all in the first chapter, and even then the game too many other problems for that to matter (like for example the terain not counting for anything)
If we had invested in nvidia in 2016 we could've made our dream game.
>>550741536Fair, some like the Admech tree or big Kroot fight are more flexible though
rtwp felt great 15 years ago but now when I play a game that uses it I can’t get past the tedium
is the fucking torrent up OR WHAT
The turn-based supremacist cope.Real time with pause always has turns, they just happen in real time. All people obsessed with turn-based games suck at real time strategy games because they think slow and act slow - they say a RTWP game that adds a turn based mode is better even though it is the same exact game but now five times slower with them auto attacking trash mobs in turns one at a time instead of all at once.
>>550743415Moderator is still paying
>>550738663I'm still butthurt about RT Beta being better balanced than the full game.
>>550743586Wdym moderator is paying (I never uploaded torrents)
Why do rtwp enjoyers pretend that people who don’t like that system have skill issues? rtwp is piss-easy and everyone knows it.
>>550743905Playing, torrent is still under moderation
CRPG but it's played like a MOBA.
>>550744814Underrail
>>550744814multiplayer CRPG, with PvP
>>550744814dawn of war 2
rtwp, a system so easy you can literally give AI scripts so your companions play themselves
Darking my heresy
>rtwp >easypost you completed playthrough of max difficulty pillars and black geyser.
Crpgs where I can raise my skeleton army?
>>550745438PotD pillars are piss easy.Now if you included most magran challenges, that is a bit trickier
>>550745438>black geyser.
what's black gayser? sounds like a game homosexuals would play
>rtwp>easypost you completed playthrough of unfair WOTR
why does showing off your navigator give you 40 billion insight points
>>550745438>>550745674>Game but with multiple arbitrary limitations and rules for added difficultySawyer's wankery shouldn't count for anything.
rtwp trannies calling their system hard because they have to quick load 8 times to beat enemies with -%80dmg taken and +%80dmg dealt while they are minmax dipping monk
>>550745904Other navigators approve of you showing propper respect and send you a gift in return
>the game doesnt use a dnd slop system so I actually have to think?>AAAAAIIEEEE IM GOING INSANEthats what I thought you only play dnd shit (objectively easy)
I play games to enjoy themI enjoy turn based more.
rtwp quick-loading monk-dipper claiming he thinks more than turn based players…..
>>550711936He has one weird line that might imply he has someone he bangs, or at least used to bang already.
you can change the numbers, the speed, even the AI, but rtwp remains by design made to be played on autopilotit's like cutting food with a spoon, yeah you can do that but that's not a spoon is for
>>550746517>literally having to make up some strawman to defend you shit argument I normally play pure spellcaster
>>550745904The masses want the Fish to visit them and will space routes into existence
nnoooooo u don’t get itttttt i play on uber-depraved gravy-rain mode!!!!!!! i do 12% damgeeeee I have to thinkkkkkkkk more than uuuuuu
Huh apparently Datk Hereesy has 2 world states a normal one and a harder one where you start at lvl 5
>still hasn't posted a completed playthrough of pillars,black geyser or WOTR on max difficulty Thats what I though he is just a no games shitposter.
grown ups are having a discussion you can wave your achievements on /v/ if you want
tranny can’t talk concepts without talking about his life’s only accomplishments…. he beat the last-tranny max challenge mode!!!!!!
Yep its a no games. I didn't even say achievement i just said save file to prove you actually even played the game.
even though you have moved the goalposts 5 times I will humor you.
>>550747347>no save file of unfairYep thats what I thought
>>550746824I assume it's just a quick way of determining how your tutorial went. Either you saved your inquisitor, or you saved the city
>passive aggressive fags can't even (you)what a wretched general
>he is still talking about unfairgetting a lil sad at this point mate
>>550747464That's what happens when not enough cams are posted I fear
Cam would use toybox
>still no save file of unfair Thats what I thought.
>I need my yous because I dont get any attention irlKill yourself
Cultured turn-based connoisseur: I think the rtwp system is a holdover of a past era that developers who actually understand RPGs should no longer use. It incentivizes overplanning and min-maxing builds instead of strategic depth, and rewards micromanaging that deprives the genre of even the excitement and challenge of real-time action games. Recent TB successes prove without a doubt that it is the superior system.Lobotomized rtwp slopeater: BUT HAVE YOU BEATEN SLOPPA 3 AND DOGSHIT 4 ON NIGHTMARE MODE HUH???
>>550711058toee
if I spent all that time playing rtwp-slop to beat some gay difficulty I would be defensive too. It’s ok bro. Don’t kill yourself.
I love being American and have a $30 tax added onto the delivery charge because of tariffs
>>550711058Grim Dawn DLCs. The other PoE is kill so I have to get my autism fill elsewhere.>>550748483Neat
Uh-oh turn based melty, what the hardest turn based crpg? Underpiss? LMFAO thats what turn based niggers consider difficult because they are shit at games.
>Underpiss out of absolutely nowhere
Why can’t you retards just enjoy more than one game
>>550748483>$90 delivery and $30 "fuck you" tariff charge for a statue that is very likely going to take upwards of 5 fucking years to arriveBloody highway robbery. But fuck me I actually really want that lonely self-hatred filled Kroot sad sack girl on my bookshelf. I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to have it shipped to family out of the country and just pick it up when I visit them.
>>550749443>>550749443>>550749443
What do turn based fags even considering hard? Is there even a difficult turn-based game?
>>550746582That's a reference to Yrliet
Pretending you hav to think in rtwp is funny lolThe entire end goal of rtwp is building enough support or immunities or damage res so you can braindead mash everything to do death"Why is fighter mage good in bg2""Oh is it because it gives you're fighter tons of tactical depth and new options?"No nigga it's so you can throw on a bunch of immunities and auto the fightIm fine with rtwp but it is frustrating having to micro backstabs or whatever and people playing crpg are not looking for micro. They are looking for a chill rpg experience