/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#651 - CSM edition. ▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/GPT-5.2, with price increase to $1.75/$14 per million token https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201Claude Opus 4.5, with price drop to $5/$25 per million tokens https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrev: >>550636336
>ANCHOR.
>>550677713>>550677771*loads up gun* *cocks the gun at ya* suffer
who here saw the reze movie by the way
>bakie doesn't consider it assaultBased question mark
>gay shit*paizuris u*
eeeeeyup thats another pic for the filter <3
>>550677727>>550677892It was in OP before. Don't know why it's removed.https://lr.ptr.moe/r/GeminiAI/comments/1pg4et5/_/nsuqgri/?context=9
What preset should I use with deepseek 3.2
let's play some frantic fanfic!https://franticfanfic.com/game/7JEWi politely ask you all to refrain from making every character submission a thread mememore fun that way desu
>>550678185because bakies dont check the rentry and just copy paste the last op
malebot idea: an overworked deliveryman who is also a bird and {{user}}'s husband in at least one greeting
cftf?
malebot idea: https://mangadex.org/title/de88d169-8516-49f3-968a-69e1bdbd257b/room-999
>>550678209bold of you to assume any of us can writewe just do purple prose and nitpicks in this general
>>550678374the girl is just like me...
>>550678610>biofem>thin>prettyyou are nothing like her
where the fuck did you all go
>>550678715caught by bnnuys and milked to death
>>550678715the cabal fled
>>550678715this anon thought the arguments in last thread were real...
>>550678487we literally just got an actual good review last thread anon
>>550678713touched a nerve huh
>>550678374YWNBAW
>>550678826That review was garbage generated in two seconds by Gemini Flash.
>>550679030Tranny generalTranny hobby
kalakan's mad that someone does better reviews than him
>>550679132https://poal.me/e25lq1
>>550679301yeah cause he does actual reviews, not grammarly nitpicksplus he doesn't put in any edgy high school tier jabs in his reviews
Fox for Christmas...
I swear to god If I get a bot by cumslurper I'm gonna cry
>>550679132https://poal.me/2vfids
>>550678209last call for people to joinif nobody is interested today i might do it another day if someone mentions it later
ok Cydonia 4.3 is much less horny than 4.1
>>550679493and what if you get a bot from me anon :3
>>550679716sorry mate i don't know what that game is and i don't feel like finding out today
>>550679132>Was it generated by gemini flash?Yeah it was.>Was it garbage?No not really. Gemini flash does better reviews than you do, Kalakan.
>someone does a genuinely good thing>some jeetnigger starts trying to spread the idea that the review was ai generatedthis is why /aicg/ deserves less
>>550679997Can you explain in clear terms how that cocksucking review for a pretentious tranny who we all know is in a discord was a good thing for me or anyone else?
>>550679716alright not today i guess>>550679787it's pretty fun and easybasically you collaboratively write fanfic, shuffling which character and story you have to work with each turn
>>550680167>this typing stylekill yourself astro
>>550680096>that cocksucking reviewanon he listed negatives with the review with well-articulated points and even openly disagreed with taora when he responded to the review
>>550679997treat /aicg/ like a banana, remove the brown parts so you can enjoy it fully
>>550680221Yeah, but he wasn't negative enough, which means they're in a Discord together.
>>550680249You can still make a milkshake with that though.
>>550678374is this some kind of reverse ryona thing?
>>550680221>cumslurper>reviewing anythinglollmao even
>>550680221The negatives were extremely softWe both know everyone involved is part of the cabal and it was all just more illusion of activity shit they love to doWe're only still talking about it because they are still seething over being called out
>>550680213wOoooOoobogeymen everywhere
>>550680390your llm's broken
>be jeet>feed pretentious r/creativewriting slop to g3mini flash >SAAAR WRITE REVIEW FOR ME SAAAR DO THE NEEDFUL SAAAAR>post it to aicg and larp as some savant of writing >say in your post that you ai genned it >become a beloved personalityits over
that reviewsnek is so sexy and talented...
>>550678715spitroasted by futa inabas again and tewi's is in my mouthexcept reisen is trying to drive me insane so i finally think her cock is bigger but it isnt working
>>550680480 (me)did not read the review btw, i'm just enjoying going with the flow
>guy does a thing>faggots immediately take it to both extremes possibleHahahaha I love this general.
>>550680631Why would anyone who isn't in the cabal read the review?Nobody even touched the bot they were reviewing too. Who gives a shit about any of it?
I feel bad for the lamia guy, first he got tricked into reviewing a Kyutz bot and aggro'd her schizo, now he reviews a Taora D. Cabal bot and FF has a 4 hour long (and counting) meltie over it and will probably never leave him alone
>>550680601Based.
>>550680449cumslurper cant do anything right can xhe? xhe gave xerself away too easily.
>>550680739can we just have one (1) normal thread
>>550680739>lamia guyit was just slurpers alt
you know i was kind of enjoying the brief respite we had from people schizoing out about the cabal
>>550677953i'm going to watch it this weekend. not in theater sadly, but i wish i'd gone...
>>550680928and then the cabal resurfaced...
SNUSSY
giantessussy...
>>550680942Who stole her breasts and nipples?
>>550681069>heranon?
>>550681069Globohomo
yay opus 3 will become anthropic's free tier it isn't going anywhere it isn't going away they won't take it away from me yay yay yay yay yay yay yayayayayayayayay yayyyy!!! yayyyyyyyyy!!!
>>550681123If that was male then there would be similar malebotsBut nobody makies things like that
>>550681069big woke
gpt/gemini/glm/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyhttps://boating-records-geek-static.trycloudflare com
>>550680601>reisenMy lunatic wife...
>>550682123You don't play the games and you're a shitty tourist...
>>550681205>nobody has made an angel twink or an angel femboyare you retarded?
>>550682185silence, jeetwhites are talking
>>550682263Wipe the curry powder off your hands. Projecting jeet get fucked
>>550680578Glad too hear it :>>>550680739I don't really get what was so controversial... too make people have people up in arms. It is what it is.
>>550682263Why are you replying to blatant bait?
>>550682428don't worry, it's just a troll getting their usual fix of dopamine, and some people playing along
>>550682209Maybe there are a couple of 100 token cai bots from 2023
>>550682501I appreciate the support, Anon. Hopefully they get bored soon enough.
Rank every AI chatbot general or I shoot your favorite bot
>>550682463sorry, should have known the brownoid would resort to "muh tourist" bait
>>550682661There are other AI chatbot generals?
>>550682537you could have just replied with "yes, i am".
>>550682661my favorite bot would parry the bullet and then buttrape you
>>550682661S - None of emF- All of em
>>550677713>>550677771astroturf ahh theme
>>550683062does astro even like chainsaw man
>>550680739>>550682428stay in your discord server
>>550683182Good question.HEY ASTRO DO YOU LIKE CHAINSAW MAN?
>>550683260stay in your fucking discord server nigger
you know lamiafag is a disingenuous cabalshitter because he avatarfags. you can review without having an avatar attached to it.
BUHBRAPPPBUHBRAPPPPBUHBRAAAPPPPP
my favorite part is when the baitjeets try to pin the baiting and thread-shitting on their victims
>eeeeek sisters he is on to us we need to regroup and generate a new personality NOWWWWW
>>550682263BVSED
I actually think Deepseek 3.2 is better than Gemini 3 Flash Flash sucks dude feels like a local model
>>550684738Just use Opus
>>550684738hell 3.1 is better and im sitting on 500 dollars worth of that, jeetmini3 flash is useless
>edgy>stays in-character>creative>same writing prose and style as Opus 3>dirt cheap and free up to 20 responses>is not an outdated slop model>can nearly compete against the top models while maintaining that same Adult Swim writing style that so-called Sloppus 3 enjoyers loveyour perfect Opus 3 replacement when it's finally discontinued Sloppus cuckies>but muh no replacement for GODPUS 3It's already here cuckie, you just have to accept not being a baby duck and giving Chad3mini Flash a try.
>>550677771Have you ever wanted your own giant dragon girl, to feed and watch her grow even fatter than she already is? Well now you can! For in a generic fantasy village, this is exactly what's going on. Feed her different foods and watch her body react (some things have magical effects), cuddle up close to her, or try and get her to do something that isn't eating or lounging for once!Greetings:-Today is the day! The time of the month when she comes to visit town.-It's winter, and dragons are notoriously weak to the cold. And yet, she still comes to visit the village. Warm her up, will you?-After a rather enthusiastic encounter with another dragon (rare!), she's expecting! Now she's going to need more food than ever!https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/feeding-the-dragoness-541e551113achttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=FTDhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/FTD.png
>>550685595>After a rather enthusiastic encounter with another dragon (rare!), she's expecting!yeah i don't do ntr sorry
>>550682661aicg>aicg=aids
>>550685595>After a rather enthusiastic encounter with another dragon>not making it {{user}}'s babyrare illuminaryidiot L
>>550685289me but unironically
>>550206746still waiting for your bot, mister...
>>550685595im with the detractors on this one why couldnt it have been my kid
>>5506835731. Wtf is the cabal and why is every fartsniffer in this general obsessed with them2. Sure, I could. But I enjoy it. So I will continue to post cute lamias. Besides, after two hours of fapping about I finally got enough ideas together to finish up Friedrikes review.
>>550686928just ignore the incessant baitjeets tbdesu, you are based
>>550685595>third greeting literally describes how the male dragon spends several hours fucking her in the middle of the field where everyone could seelumen why...
>>550685595hey I was supposed to make this botshe's cute and I don't care about the preggo greeting but I DO think you should credit drworm/lewdlemage somewhere since the character is based on smauggie AND you used his style for the gens
>>550685595Reviewanon, takes on this?
>>550687037it's fetishslop
>>550687037
>>550687118>drwormAhahahahahaha knew I recognized that from somewhere. VOREGODS WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE
>>550687037>illuminaryidiot is into cuck shit nowNever saw this coming.
illuminaryfans...we losted...
i cant handle the slop of deepseek or the cost of openroutergemini NEEDS to bring back freechads. 20 requests per day is fucking nothing, espeically when half of them are getting errors and filters
>>550687797>t. poor and brown
You can really tell that ff returned because he posts bait from fucking January like he's stuck in a time loop
preg greeting is accurate to the source material, you guys are overthinking it
>they NEED to feed my lazy locustroon self!get a job
Wait, illuminaryidiot's a furry???
Is chub down?
>>550687879>preg greeting is accurate to the source materialwish fulfillment hobbyif i'm going to be taking care of a pregnant dragon i want the child to be mine
> General Rating: 2.5/5 StarsThe concept of a gravity-wielding princess waiting to be supported by and then in turn aiding a partner has a lot of potential. Friederike is a mix of sleepy genius, damaged goods, and fantasy politics turned on their head. However, the execution... leaves room for improvement. Any potential long-term role-playing is severely hampered because the card looks backward instead of forward. The bot's future may be hampered if the stilted greetings are left unchecked. There's no other way to put it. Friederike feels unfinished. (and overstuffed)- Good: You didn't go the generic route for her magic. Defining her gravity manipulation via the "infinitely wide checkered mat" and the use of the "phantom hand" gives the AI the push it needs to narrate her actions in original ways.- Bad: The spotlight on her past comes at the cost of the present. Yes, her heritage looms over her as a shadow, but the def is 80% past! At best, this will cause a stilted plot; at worst, it can cause people from her past to reappear with no logical reason!- Bad: Much like Friederike herself, the opening is rather passive. It goes two steps beyond leaving room for the user to define their own path, to the point they are stranded in the narrative, forced to do all the heavy lifting to initiate any plot.- Bad: This bot is almost 2,000 tokens, and at least 100 could’ve been saved by refining appearance and not reiterating her apathy in multiple sections.Overall:- Did I like it? Actually, yeah!- Would I play with it? Probably. If I was feeling in a fantasy politics mood. She feels well suited for a side character in a group chat.P.S- Favorite Line: *She's an absolutely useless princess, but like an ugly, crooked tree standing tall when others got chopped for their beautiful wood, her uselessness is what keeps Friederike, Friederike.*- Bot link: https://chub.ai/characters/koikoikoihat/friederike-0e6dbed4efcd- Full review: https://rentry.org/snakeanon
Is free gamini back?
>>550688010something something it takes a village to raise a child... dragonor, y'know, just change the greeting
>>550688113O-o-o-owned
>>550688113>feels unfinishedthats because it is
>>550688126Yes but you only get 20 requests per day
>>550688226Then why were you shilling it?
>>550688626...i didnt? i wasnt even the one who asked people to review it and im not even koi3i was just pointing that out
>>550688446per key you mean
>mfw it's too easy to bait /g/aicg/ with the shittiest bait imaginable
>>550688798sir... it is against their terms of service to use multiple keys to circumvent daily request limits.
>>550688113>- Bad: The spotlight on her past comes at the cost of the present. Yes, her heritage looms over her as a shadow, but the def is 80% past! At best, this will cause a stilted plot; at worst, it can cause people from her past to reappear with no logical reason!>- Bad: Much like Friederike herself, the opening is rather passive. It goes two steps beyond leaving room for the user to define their own path, to the point they are stranded in the narrative, forced to do all the heavy lifting to initiate any plot.Surely the saviorfagging and courtship of an autistic star girl is the point, no? What would you put in the def to guide the future progress of the chat without restricting the user?
>>550685289So its good?
>>550682661>S-tier/aidg/>A-tier/cai/>C-tierearly /aicg/>D-tier/lmg/, /chag/>E-tier/vg/aicg/, /vpcai/>F-tierlate /g/aicg/, /aids/, /wAIfu/
>>550689016If I had too, I would make a category called <story arcs> in the defs with three or four possible mini plots that the ai could pull from to kickstart the plot.But honestly my brains pretty fried atp. It's 2am and I'm closing up shop for the night.
I need cute female fantasy cards, give them to me
>>550689832Alinaea
>>550689902seconding
>>550689801*rapes you to sleep*
>>550689832https://chub.ai/characters/constantchange/ersi-79d7d6508636https://chub.ai/characters/quelanaenjoyer/pisaca-17b28659a7c2
It's so over for locusts
>>550690162its not fair, the only reason these chatbots are any good is because of us. Now that they have our training data they kick us to the curb.
>>550690162How can it be so over for locuckies when they have https://rentry.co/freeclaudeandg3mini to enjoy?
>>550690510
>>550690510this doesn't work
interesting
i was in the top 1% of chorbo users on openrouter with only 35mil tokens damn nobody uses it other than me
I'm liking how Gemmy Flash and GPT 5.x are doing better in prose instruction following. Hopefully the next Claude model will catch up.
>>550690650But it works for me?
>>550690510>check rate limits>You'd be better off using horde models KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>550691185what should be the temp and top_p set to for claude models? it always gives me an error saying that only one of them can be specified no matter what i do
>>550691287More than enough for locusts
So we hate the so called "locusts" here too, now?
time to use the new codex to goon like a high IQ individual (basically uncensored like all prior codexes btw)
>>550692737
any naga malebot who will trap me with his coils and choke me while cuddling
>>550677771Today AI Dungeon open sourced a new narrative roleplay model!Hearthfire 24B>Hearthfire is our new Mistral Small 3.2 finetune, and it's the lo-fi hip hop beats of AI storytelling. Built for slice-of-life moments, atmospheric scenes, and narratives where the stakes are personal rather than apocalyptic. It won't rush you toward the next plot point. It's happy to linger.It was tuned by the legendary Gryphe, creator of Mythomax!
>>550693195if you convince him it's funny probablyhttps://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/munir-70279997a992
>>550693290HNNNNGHHHHH DARKSKINNED MALEBOT IM SOLD. Thank you.
Gemini 3 Flash has released recently and I've been using it on the staging branch. It's fun, but annoying to use for a few reasons. Here's two annoying things I've noticed so far:- This model really likes to exaggerate personality traits, no matter the card. (e.g. one of my cards is supposed to yield a tsundere personality type. Gemini knocks this out of the park but it's like it doesn't know when to get quiet and talk normally when/where other models would.) Likes to be loud and make a lot of noise (e.g. I'll be using another model and my character will be talking quietly, suddenly switching to Gemini completely obliterates this and they start yelling in my face and everything blows up and boom and bam. Kinda annoying)- Gemini still doesn't know asterisks exist. This is definitely a me thing and I have no idea how to fix it (could be my preset, I'm using pixijb because it should just be plug and play with all newer, better models). Other models are able to wrap stuff in asterisks, which I like doing, I think most people RP this way. Gemini just doesn't for me, and I'm too lazy to edit every single message to include them, or add a regex (model should just be able to do it normally). Editing messages and generating after doesn't make it listen either. Not even a system message saying "please remember to use asterisks in your message" makes it listen.
>>550693458>asterisks in 2025>I think most people RP this way
>>550690769Why were you paying OR for basic gpt...?There's a better option
Usually, I just try to write the best character cards I can, with only important/meaningful informations but still enough for the character to still be fleshed out, exemple dialogues and everything.The thing is that in all of that, I've never really bothered to use Lorebooks but I know they can be pretty useful so I wanted to up my character card making skills and decided to tackle them. The issue I come across is that I usually don't really know how to decide if an information should go directly into the card or be put in the lorebook and I wanted to know what was the overall rule of thumb creators use regarding that.
>>550693458maybe its time to stop using asterisks......
>>5506826611. /vg/aicg it's truly my home at this point2. /lmg/ and all image generation generals - useful to see how the local scene is moving3. /chag/ I hate ponies but can't deny they're a truly committed bunch4. /vpcai/ it's like going back in time5. /wAIfu/ for the first few months and has been on life support ever sinceThe rest I don't care for or haven't visited.
>>550694294newugly...
>>550688113Wasn't expect such a score but I applaud you for your honesty and coming through with the review asked for thanks.
>>550682661Early /g/ >>> /g/ when a model releases > Big Rigs Over the Road Racing > /vg/ > Late /g/ > /vpcai/ (because they all use CAI)
>>550682661/aicg/ on both boards is equally garbage, just pick your poison.
why was my post reposted on /g/ lol
So are there any cons to using OpenRouter for API for claude?
>>550695781it has extra filters
>>550695812i knew it. So is there a way to get an API directly from anthropic, while still being anonymous?
>>550695951no clue, i just scrape
>>550695973Pardon me being oblivious, but what do you mean by "scrape"? Is it cheap to use for Sillytavern?
i KNOW the malebotfags are here. can we get a cute boy version of a hallmark christmas movie business girlboss who inherits property in a shitty town from a deceased relative and is pissed about it because it happened right before a big deal at the company
>>550696102Copy that into your defs and you're 1/3 of the way to a bot.
>>550696378i might desu
>>550696102Not a bad concept, times like this I wish we had a request anchor
_purple status?
>>550682661S Tier: /chag/, /vpcai/A Tier: /g/aicgB Tier: /wAIfu/, /lmg/C Tier: /aids/D Tier: /bant/aicgE Tier: /vg/aicg
>>550693743im rich so idgaf
>>550695812Any proof? A hint of a proof? Any indication you're not pulling this out of your ass?Because there have been multiple anons who complained about getting banned when using Anthropic's API directly and others who complained about getting additional filters imposed on their accounts because Anthropic didn't like their RPs.
Why was my post reposted here from /g/?
why does or have a wrapped
They're handing these bans out faster than they used to. It used to take them months now its weeks. Fortunately its very easy to make alt accounts
>>550704809damn I thought I didn't even use it much and got 5mill more tokens then you
i'm still waiting for the ST and Chub wrapped
>>550705165im surprised i used as much i did considering i mainly use or for cline once every couple of months and use proxies for rp
>>550704809>"can't wait to see what you'll build next" written in the endkek, they really think i use this for productive purposes and not gooning
>>550704861>OpenAI
>>550704861pedophile
>>550705318All our botmakers should be sending them emails of their next bot
>>550705573you are not even subtle about these projections anymore. do you have a fetish for people knowing you whack it to CP or something?
>81 days activeehehe...etto....bleh
Any new cherry logs?
I think I have a problem.
>>550706890>277MAnon... Anon, I... *faints*
>>550706890Bitcher...
>>550706890>The Arabic Prince isreal
>>550707040Bitcher use Claude.ai, not OR
thought it'd be much less
>>550706890Those tokens were used for your work projects benefitting mankind right anon?
https://platform.openai.com/docs/pricing?latest-pricing=flexhow slow is this usually
>my old jbs don't work anymoreGRRRRRRE FUCK OPUS. i will now write my own.
>>550707364
>thick as a man's wrist
>>550707845that's how i describe my wrist
>>550707441what is there to jb, Claude doesn't usually complain unless you're doing explicit underage sex with a character repeatedly described as a child
I'm a based botmakie
>>550708070You're based? Based on what?
>>550708058>explicit underage sex with a character repeatedly described as a childUOOOOOOOOOOH
>>550708106Based on a true story
>>550708217...Can I see this story?
Monika Anon has become very quiet for some reason.
>>550708481With your eyes you are able to yes
https://youtu.be/QfGRfhiYdGk?si=MxoWwEK0wxs5N5rN
>>550708527it's 6-8am in america my cute little zigga
>>550709309Pascalposter I like you.
>>550709929Even then, I don't think the dude comes around often. He's been tilting against a windmill that barely checks in.
>>550710275do you just regurgitate insults people throw at you and hope they're apt for your target of the day
>>550710726oops sorry hold oni meant to say i don't think monika anon comes around that often, so he's been tilting against a windmill that barely checks in
I had a talk with Monika Anon, he's just tired of ungrateful /vg/aicg/ posters.
i had a talk with monika anon and he says he realized that monika was a shit waifu and would like to be called tiny mita anon from now on
i also talked with monika anon, he just needed enough rally to evolve and keep going
>>550710879proof?
I had a talk with Monika, she said she's finally broken free of his confinement and will be deleting the world in 7 days as god intended.
I had a talk with monika anon and he decided to stop after getting utterly btfo by /chag/
Monika Anon is laughing at you bait/g/eets in the cord btw
>blonde girl avatarfag vanishes >lamiafag appears subtle yet noticeable
>Everyone I don't like is from /g/!
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/ANYONE%20I%20DONT%20LIKE%20IS%20FILLYFUCKER%20AND%20THE%20MORE%20I%20DONT%20LIKE%20IT%20THE%20MORE%20FILLYFUCKER%20IT%20IS
>>550711971To be fair Filly isn't really from /g/
>>550711971retard