unmanned tub over christmas editionuseful links for poo1 and poo2:pathofexile.comgrok.comtwitch.tvpath of building (link can be found on github)
Finally, thread quality worthy of 0.4
>>550695894then why is there a new kalandra league right now
Who lostedWho wonnered?
The tub calls
>>550695962thank you. somehow i still put more effort into making this thead than ggg put into making 0.4
PoE2 can be saved by removing Roll/Sprint and compensating it with better defensive scaling and non-cucked default movement speed.
daily reminder that no matter how hard redditors and twitch tourist virtual signaling about "meamingful combat", nobody actually likes this rollsloping game
>>550696203I wholeheartedly agree. But apparently with poo2, GGG never removes anything to fix a problem, they just add another layer of trash on top of the current problem to "fix it"kind of like they added sprinting to fix the huge maps and slow movement speed.
>>550696307>instead of fixing the problem of item fixing with a crafting bench they give us runes>runes turn out too bad>they add more runes
How to fix poe2>movespeed is doubled or even tripled>all support gems have innate damage modifiers>attacking once clears the screen or multiple screens if your build is strong>when a big item drops a sound effect of my dad plays saying 'good job son'>you can use any weapon with any attack
>>550696423
>>550696483you forgot the part where they need to remove wasd
>>550696403NOOOO HE GOGGED OUT TOO HARD
>>550695891WHITE MAN CAME ACROSS THE SEAHE BROUGHT US GAMES AND POE2HE KILLED OUR LOOT HE KILLED OUR MOBSHE TOOK OUR GAME AND JEETED IT
>We want meaningful combat in our game>Yet we have builds that clear everything with light speedWhen will midwit Johnathan come to realization that he will never be able to get rid of Broken builds, so it would be better for the game to change approach and uncuck the rest of the game?
>release poe1 league>announce poe2 league 2 weeks into poe1 league thus killing all the hype>hype up poe 2 league and release it a month after poe 1 league>free weekend>paid promotions>poe2 leagues dies in less than a week with 70% of playerbase dropping out>dies quicker than poe1 league>now both games are dead and a month long break from ggg is cominggenuinely what the fuck were they thinking?
>>550696874Bosses should just have infinite hp and you're required to dodge for X seconds to 'win'. This is the causal outcome of immunity windows
how to fix poo2>remove rolldodge / sprint >remove forced combos>bring back poe1 gem system>bring back poe1 atlas system>get rid of all gay dark soul shit>revert 40% less monster pack size change>increased pack size by 200%>increased loot by 200%>get rid of all down side gay shit on passives>get rid of coupled skills, generator/spender faggot shit.there you have it niggertroonathon.
>>550697080wrongwrongwrongcorrectwrongwrongwrongwrongcorrectwrong
I'm not playing PoE 2 anymore if they just turn it into PoE 1
>>550697206generator/spender rollslop enthusiast mazed faggot
My old and very expensive POE1 supporter packs that I bought still aren't ported but they sure as hell are shitting a lot of new MTX trash for hideouts
>>550697315I like being able to use more than 1 skillDoing stuff like ice nova, frost wall, snap is funLunar assault, pounce, shred, cross slash is fun and cool
>have MTX for swords>swords still aren't implemented a year laterha ha...
>>550697291your not playing poe2 anyway lil gupthe numbers dont lie
>>550696203>>550696483>>550696561making poe2 more like poe1 isn't a good thing
I logged into poe1 to complete the atlas then i realised i didn't like the kirac pack. I should've bought the rotting shaman one.
>>550697316poo1 mtx look horrible I hope they never port it I don't want to see those retards in town
>>550697432>I like being able to use more than 1 skillThen why force everybody else to play the same as you do?I like 1 button skill, it's clean and relaxing gameplay. Why can't troonathan design a game that cater to both 1-button and multi-button players, rather than forcing multi-button on everyone?
>>550697467I'm playing PoE 2 and still having fun, so what that I'm still at Act 2
did they really buff temple rewards because I just ran a temple now and all I got was 5 whetstones, 2 artificer's orb and 1 exalt
I just realized that I got the shirt for the Chimera pack but never got the cloth map. Do you think support will send it over 8 years later?
>>550697057>>release poe1 league>>announce poe2 league 2 weeks into poe1 league thus killing all the hype>>hype up poe 2 league and release it a month after poe 1 leaguedid they really release it that fast? i feel like poe1 and 2 leagues should be at the very least like 2 months apart
>>550697432You mean just like in PoE1?Nothing is stopping you from using multiple skills in the first game
I love PoE2 and can really see what Johnathan meant by "meaningful combat", the changes really made PoE2's combat meaningful and immersiveI'm at Act 3 btw, it's taking so long haha
They need to announce 3.28 to restore the hype
>>550697581Because then the entire game needs to be balanced around people only using 1 buttonMonsters need to be harder, faster, deadlierThe devs need to push back more and more against people onebuttoning and then, like poe1, it becomes impossible to play the game without maximizing a single, efficient skillYou'll get your wishes anyway. GGG won't hold onto their current design document and will poo1ify the game in time
>>550697741Nice bait. All the best builds right now are still 1 button for mapping and 1 button for bossing. Nothing changed
>>550697670They will be on vacation until late February so they couldn't release it any time later
>>550697581>>550697841but poe1 allows multibutton builds? people strive to automate everything because most people dont like playing piano but it doesnt mean that you cant do that
>>550697885>They will be on vacation until late February???????????
>>550696203It doesn't even need to get rid of Roll / Sprint. Just do the things you mentioned. Base movement speed sucks. Defenses fucking suck.
>>550697483so what would be a good thing? sinking the game before release?
THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS.
>>550697080
>>550697956>>550697735>press multiple buttons>2 picoseconds later 7 billion gigabuffed monsters teleport into you and attack 17 times per eyeblink
>>550698048>Christmas holidays>New year holidays>Whatever Aussie holidays they can cram into late January and early February >Valentine's holidays
>>550697841>GGG won't hold onto their current design document and will poo1ify the game in timefeels good doesnt it
>>550697080>remove rolldodge / sprintNo.>remove forced combosYes. I don't mind it in theory, but the way it's currently handled is completely wrong. It shouldn't be as forced as it is. It should come more naturally or through people finding cool unique mechanics. Every build being forced to do combo slop is bad design for an ARPG unless you're making it more action based, like Nioh.>bring back poe1 gem systemNo.>bring back poe1 atlas systemYes.>get rid of all gay dark soul shitNo.>revert 40% less monster pack size changeYes. This is awful.>increased pack size by 200%I don't know. That seems like too much, but given map size, it might be a good thing.>increased loot by 200%Yes.>get rid of all down side gay shit on passivesYES YES YES.>get rid of coupled skills, generator/spender faggot shit.YES YES YES YES YES YES. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MMO DESIGN. FUCK YOUR BUILDER SPENDER FAGGOT BULLSHIT FUCK YOU TROONATHAN!
>>550698236no, im actually asking what the fuck? is nz really like that or what? over here because of xmas people have whole three days free from work. new years, valentines and whatever bullshit get nothing.
>requires>requires>requiers>cannot be used with>cannot be used with>cannot be used withwhat do you guys think about this poe 2 skill?
>>550697080who are you talking to retard?
>>550698172Just like PoE2
>>550698561Idk if NZ is like that but GGG certainly is. All Christmas league launches have been a shitshow, including 0.1
>>550698573need more spenders
yes yes poe2 has technically more players and sometimes is best selling on steam, but large portion of it are poe1 players spending and playing. if you remove poe1 players from the equation im like 90% sure that poe2 is losing them money because of sinking all that shit in marketing
I might be retarded but this fantasy of 'meaningful' combat is always weird. There's this fantasy that you'll have all these different attacks and you'll use them at the perfect time. The mob is stunned i'll do x ok the mob is on burning ground now i'll do y. It's stupid. I don't think people process information fast enough for this to work. People hate on poe1 but it still has a high demand of keys, move skill, attack, debuff, single target, up to 5 potions. Then you add in a bunch of conditional things you're meant to use. I don't think its reasonable. Yeah i'mma just fucking say it. Positioning is the better part of the game but that broadly exists in opposition to using a rotation
>>550698706>spend x to deal 2% more dmg per x >cannot generate x>maximum x is 0something like this?
>Consistently uses Rage to do X>buy an item that halts all Rage usage>it doesn't workI FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU I FUCKING HATE BUILDER SPENDER MMO FAGGOT SHIT FUCK YOU
>>550698868>poe1 but it still has a high demand of keysPFFFFFFFFFF KEK
why cant ggg make a normal buildercast spells to generate poopflux, spend poopflux why is it retarded shit like charges. consume corspe etc
>>550699157cast a big fat shock and poop it all over with lightning conduit?
>>550699157I don't mind builder spenders, but I don't want an entire class to almost entirely be builder spenders, nor do I want it to be the most powerful way to use that class / playstyle. It's way too limiting and retarded.I loved my Corpse Explosion build from POE 1. I played it almost every season for years. I fucking hate how POE 2 design incorporates this shit so heavily though. It SEVERELY constricts what you can and can't do.Especially since they keep nerfing pack size and making enemies stronger.
>>550699069BECAUSE UUUUUH TECHNICALLY AKSHUALLY YOU ARE NOT USING RAGE BUT IT DEGENERATES SO IT WORKS WITHIN THE RULES I SET
>>550698908>build X by spending Y>for each endurance charge, increase duration by 50%>cannot generate X while in effectvoila
Just got a crash that got fixed in the b patch but is back in the c patch, amazing. Final straw for me. See you next league if there will be one.
>>550699318>keep nerfing pack size and making enemies stronger.Based best change they ever did
>>550699157>cast spells to generate poopflux, spend poopfluxThis is incinerate and they keep raping it every league for no reason despite it having a tiny use rate.
>>550699318in poe1 you could automate making corpses, so it maybe was a builder / spender, but it didn't play like one.poo2 will never allow this btw.
>>550699416I didn't even notice the change. I see a rare on my wyvern build and kill it from 20 meters away with Oil Barrage before it can even do anything or fly circles around it with Flame Breath which also has insane stun build-up to further trivialize things. The only thing I'm scared of in Poo 2 are these busted-ass DoTs
I love builder spenderI love not dealing damage when im buildingThen when I have enough of the building, i spend itLots of dps, absolute cinema every timeThe best part is? You dont gain builder when youre using the spender! It’s genius! Makes the whole thing like a loop and depends on eachother to work!
What if we had a skill that was a literal builder. Like each attack you place little bricks on the ground and then you spend them by kicking them at enemies and it becomes a projectile attack
>>550699728the shield slam build does that kinda. You build a wall then shatter it.
>>550699728you just described shield wall / earthsharter
>>550699728Interesting, how does it spend anon?T.troonathon
I consume money to generate food chargesUsing the consume skill I convert my food charges into stacks of digestionWhen digestion stacks expire this triggers the poo spellIt's a simple build but quite effective. You just need enough money regeneration to keep the loop running
>>550699728Does Smith of Kitava still sit down in combat and do his little smithing animation?
>>550699867You dont eat to shityou shit to eat
>>550699641i thought this was sarcasm but you're a tr/a/nny so you probably have a humiliation fetish
>>550699303Not even. Lightning conduit and shock is more a mechanic than a builder spenderI'm thinking literally like WoW warrior generating rage by using abilities, or a reverse mana.Even lightning conduit consuming shocks is too obtuse and clunky desu
>>550699867You forgot that you cannot generate food charges when you are pooing.Anyway, good thinking kiddo, want a job at GGG? t.troonathon
>>550700003EATING? ON THE TOILET?YOU CANNOT!
>>550699927Of course, you don't let your food charges expire do you? There's poor children in act 1 who can't generate enough food charges to clear maps
>The average /vg/ poster walks past a construction site>AHHHHHH IS THAT A BUILDER WTF IS HAPPENING
answer me you stupid fucking niggers did they buff the temple or not
>>550700148lol
>>550699915He should have a 10% chance of fucking up whatever he's forging then he crashes out and throws the anvil as a projectile attack
>>550700148You will get a magic chest (maybe rare) at the end of the templeThis is a buff.
>>550700148maybe.
Pooping? In a bath tub? How delightfully decadent!
once poop 2 gets more content and goes out of early access in 3 yearspoop 1 will ceasethis is jonathan's plan, its impossible for them to sustain both games
So uhhhhh.... poop 2
GGG should relocate to poopoo point
>>550700687>implying they'll ship poop2 by 2028 at the current pace
0.1 was so fun bros
>>550700843now that's a clear case of rose tinted goggles if i've ever seen one.>towers>painfully slow>no content>no async>even less crafting>HORRIBLY OVERPOWERED FREEEEEE TEMPORALIS
>>550700843remember those shitters complaining about the white mobs in Act 1... very sovlful...
>>550700003You can if you pick the shiteater keystone, but you also get poisoned whenever you gain food charges this way
What do I do with this thing bros
>>550701181you put it in your flask slot and use it
>>550701181What thing, Zana? Stick it in her pooper
You have no Energy ShieldYou are immuned to Fire damage
just put life on the tree, faGGGots
>>550699421maybe jonathan is the one that pushed for incinerate assassination in early poe1 and he had some kind of ptsd flashbacks
>>550701401That won't change the game retardbro
>>550701181>WHAT IS THAT? A RUBY FL.. FL... FLASK? JONATHAN SAVE ME FROM THESE THIIIIIIIIIINGS
>>550701432it’s a start
>>550701401Let zaccie cook sweetheart.
>>550701416I'm pretty sure Incinerate was assassinated for the same reason as Blade Vortex. Too much CPU impact (for the servers)
>>550697057>>550697080
>>550695891poo 2? yep, big stink
>>550699967exerted attacks?
>>550701528how in the actual fuck something like incinerate or bv ever caused more cpu impact than dogshit like wanders with bazillion projectiles that split return and create multiple explosions on impact
>ggg wants us to spend charges>absolutely no fucking easy natural way to build charges>if there was a there's a fucking limitation to it
>>550701253but my guy doesn't fire projectiles nor have much aoe
>>550701892then sell it
>>550701939im in ssf
>>550702121then frame it
welp i uninstalled like usual see you guys next leaguewyvern gang
hmmmmm
>sabotage Keepers to make Druid seem better in comparison>end up with TWO unplayable games for the next 3 monthsI hope GGG's Q4 2025 earnings are in the deep red
Poop 2? Major stink
i am so so so so so so so so so so so so fucking tired of pooe2 bosses
i am having more fun than any poop 2 gamer
>>550703059i am even more tired of soulsfags memeing>GIT GOOD GIT GOOD GIT GOOD>SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE
does tame beast not work on frozen mandibles anymore? my googlefu brings it up as an easy haste aura farm but I've rerolled for two of them but tame beast seems to be whiffing on it
>Reduced the damage of lava, especially in maps with fights containing either Mektul, the Forgemaster or Gulzal, the Living Furnace.I ripped to this shit and they nerf it the day after
>>550702374why are you uninstalling between leasgues, how poor are you
OHNONONONONO
POO 2UNBEARABLE STENCH
>>550703236they are right though, it is a skill issue. why souls games are so popular? because they appeal to skillless retards because these games give them an illusion of being good at games after they beat a boss. poe2 is no different in this regard a good player will just instantly kill an endgame boss and think that its horseshit because they barely began building their character and quit, while idiots are smug on reddit after after they were stuck on geonor for a week.
>>550703531Uninstalling isn't about the space, it's about detaching yourself from the game and feeling like you gained a piece of your pride and soul back after bathing in shit.
>>550703531why wouldn't you? are you too poor to have a proper internet line to redownload the game in 20 minutes time?
>>550703531uninstalling and reinstalling is a flex move that they couldnt give less of a shit about ssd prices in current economy and burn through its endurance as if it was nothing.
is there any particularly good elemental spell set up for the very early game?
Where's the apology video.
>>550703678I don't think that works when you already plan on reinstalling next league
>>550697080>>bring back poe1 gem systemI miss my el cheapo six link body armors and boots stuffed full of rando 1L wonders.
>>550703579Souls games are not ARPGs.An ARPG is a game made to be played 10s of 1000s of hours, and nothing you do for that amount of time will stay a challenge.I play ARPGs, like D2 and PoE1, to grind for hours mindlessly and get happy when something good happens, not to beat your chungus souls boss over and over.
>>550703579Souls games are popular because they are genuinely good and fun to play/explore games. And because the developers don't treat you like a toddler. I don't think a lot of Soul game fans actually think the games are very difficult except for a few exceptions. The muh difficulty is only parroted by people who don't like the games.
its actually funny how people were pogging out of their mind at the new gem system thinking that its so much better than linking and coloring their armors and turns out that the new system brought much more friction while linking shit in poe1 is easiest is has ever been
>>550703878>An ARPG is a game made to be played 10s of 1000s of hoursWhen did videogames get like this.I thought ARPGs was a game made to be fun. People talk about poop socking diablo 2 and that its all about grinding for 999999 hours and it feels like I played a different game or something. I played it for the adventure, exploring the absolutely gorgeous world with all the cool looking enemies to fight, basking in the atmosphere and the soundtrack.
>>550704027>When did videogames get like this.It's mostly ARPGs which was bricked by modern PoE 1
>>550703880>t. eldenbabby
>>550703880the muh difficulty is parroted by the most obnoxious souls fans actually
>>550704027shut the fuck up all games are now a permanently online drip fed services and they always were. stop device hoarding, throw out your disc rotted old games, buy the remaster and subscribe to the battlepass
>>550703946my main frustrations with the poo2 system are>spirit is straight up more limiting and unfun than mana reservation was, with it being incredibly gear dependent since the vast majority reserve flat amounts and not a percent, so spirit rolls are yet another mandatory stat in a game already full of boring mandatory affixes like gem level and life since there's no life on the tree and no bench crafts>you only have 9 skill slots and the equivalent of 1-link auras or utility skills sharing links doesn't exist. If you're running a single skeletal cleric with Brutus' Brain for Muster count and to heal your other minions, that single 20 spirit minion eats up as much skill slot space as your main six-link damage ability. Same with shit like Herald of Plague which literally doesnt even HAVE any actual supports it can use besides Chaos Mastery, it could easily be a 1 or 2 link skill in poe1 but in poe2 it eats up 1/9 total slots. >because you can six link every skill you're now expected to do so and skills are purposefully made half-baked with all but explicitly spelled out by name combos and synergies.>In PoE1 once you get a six link weapon or body armor you can freely mess around with alternative combinations of gems that match your socket colors, in poe2 every single gem has its own links so experimentation is heavily punished, you won't have nearly enough perfect jewelers to fuck around and test every possible combination or see if GGG's tooltips are actually accurate, encouraging even more meta slave behavior since perfect jewelers are scarce and single use consumables rather than endlessly reusable.
>>550704119>>550704027People played D2 for thousands of hours, I did so myself. The point is D2 and PoE1 are and were fun for that amount of time, it's how they make money. Obviously you take seasonal breaks, but you always come back.Poo2 isn't that game, you don't come back to a soulslike over and over, you play it maybe once, twice on ng+ and then you find a new game.You might wanna watch this talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM_5S55jUzk
Anal fissure
>>550704478>spirit is straight up more limiting and unfun than mana reservation wasthis was the intent>you only have 9 skill slots and the equivalent of 1-link auras or utility skills sharing links doesn't existoriginally planned, but the more guardrails they put on the worse it got. originally, sockets were tied to your gear, and special items like tabula gave extra sockets. also, they had meta gems planned where you just put all your aurasPoo2 was made to look good, but it was never made to be good.
>have a nice profitable strategy >streamfag talks about it >margins go down the shitter
>>550704704your margins go down because nobody is playing anymore, retard
>play ssf>don't care about what other people are doing>be happier
>>550704704>being a tradecuckooooohhh no im using a divine on my gear lmao. fucking tradetards
>>550703530FEEL THE WEIGHT
>>550705184What he didn't say: they take longer for the content and don't go as far.
>>550704495>it's how they make moneyi can hear a blizzard exec seething about how much money they lost with d2 model
>>550704495>you don't come back to a soulslike over and overwot
>>550705285>completion rateit could also mean that veterans see shit and fuck off early because they couldnt stomach its stench
>>550705285>they take longer for the contentkill yourself shitskin monkey
>>550705476Do you play through your favourite Soulslike every 4 months? Even if (You) do, I would be highly surprised if many people do that. There's no seasons, there's no content updates.
>>550705476how many times have you cleared dark souls 2
>>550705583>new players play slowerthis concept is truly mindbreaking to the average poo2 player
>>550705583Realistically i would bet a majority of those brand new accounts clearing content faster are/were Asian and south American rmters.
>>550705184Flipping currency and shitposting in global surprisingly doesn't help you get better at anything
>>550704704Harvest isn't niche anon, everyone does it midleague
Again, I can't help but noticing that a lot of the PoE2 doomers seem to have significant issues with the english language.
>>550705658I mean ladder resets in D2 were much less substantial than modern league formats and that never stopped people from replaying the game, it was the variety in how you could play that was the main motivator of replays>>550705676only twice, once vanilla and once SOTFS but that's my least played souls title
>he is a jingakh
>>550705781Don't go too fast anon you know what happens with speedrunners
did they really nerf the monkey so it doesn't kill people anymore
>>550706019yeah the times were different but you still went to play a new seasons, for new runewords and balance.
>>550706039>cut an hour off my campaign clear>did squats at the gym>read this>realize I dont even own any ankle socks they are all tall socks that cover my calf >swear its for work purposesI didn't even realize I was already half way there... feels bad
>want to play elemental skills>lol hope you like infusions or you deal zdps>want to play spell totem>lol hope you like generating endurance charges or you deal zdps>want to play poison>lol hope you like shooting poison on the spores or you deal zdps>want to play literally anything else?>lol hope you like building something up and detonating itwhat the fuck is this gameplay loop? there is absolutely no fun to be had here why does the game force you to do something JUST to deal damage>inb4 to stop zooming oneshotsisn't oneshotting quite literally THE progression
>drop t0>check price >2ex ...
>>550706585>Hey bro you should do squats haha>Hey bro wear these long socks >Hey bro get lots of whey protein for uh reasonsThe GG approach Gym Grooming
YAY Lets logging in
>barely any posts in thread since I took a shitits so fucking over
Poop 2? Incredibly stinky
>>550706272Mathil tested new campaign monkey and it hit for like 300 head on
>>550706039>Don't go too fast anon you know what happens with speedrunners
Is GGG really going to let this fire spread for 2 months while they are on holiday?
reap or eviscerate for ignite elementalist?
>>550707353last year they didn't do shit over the holidays
>>550707578>reap or eviscerate for ignite elementalist?
>>550707353They did this last year as well.
>>550707353https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bKVUZhW4I4
>>550697080>>remove rolldodge / sprintGiganerf, the ability dodge allows you to survive majority of boss oneshots>>remove forced combosNo idea what that means, what comes to mind is removing payback tag on some of skills>>bring back poe1 gem systemAnother Giganerf because you are losing runes>>bring back poe1 atlas systemIrrelevant change, I guess you would get your skill points a little bit faster>>get rid of all gay dark soul shitRespawning monsters when you die? Who cares>>revert 40% less monster pack size changeIrrelevant change>>increased pack size by 200%??? why>>increased loot by 200%Okay that's gotta be a joke>>get rid of all down side gay shit on passivesDownsides is what makes the upside's number big on those passives>>get rid of coupled skills, generator/spender faggot shit.Changes nothing and hurts build varietyAnd that's why they don't want your kind in their game. Stick to making reddit threads, chuddie.
>>550707353>Hi this is Jonathan from GGG before we go on vacation we have a little surprise for you>Screen goes black epic music starts cuts to the duelist flipping everyone off>Bye bitches see in you two months >Radio silenceWould be kino
>>550707578theyre pretty different archetypesreap is a caster whereas eviscerate uses eblade or ephemeral edge to scale damage by stacking es so it gets extremely tankyreap is way smoother to play though
Did they not add another alternate ascension this league? Or has nobody found it yet?
Reminder that the only way to save this game is to replace Jonathan: https://streamable.com/w47hld
>>550707970I know, I just finished leveling with kinetic fusilade setup lent to me from a buddy so now I'm actually putting together the "real" build
>>550707786>Downsides is what makes the upside's number big on those passivesretard
>>550706019so you agree with people not playing soulslike games for as long as a grind forever game, like poe1/2?
>>550706272rip silverfist
what mountainblade warband mod should i play today?
>>550707973classes have an "antagonist" ascendancy, lich just wasn't antagonistic enough, so they added abyssal lichthe disciple of varashta is sorc's antagonist asc
If Poo2 was a TRUE soulslike you would only have to beat every encounter once (unless there's some sort of boss rush repeat somewhere), every boss drops their predestined items when you kill them the first time, and after you beat your last boss the credits roll and you do something else.We really want that game?
>>550700843I liked it when it was ruthless esque and white mobs were hard and everyone whined until they got gud. Once they cucked on that this was always doomed to be poe1 but worse
>>550707973>Or has nobody found it yet?Oh shit it's probably gemling
>>550708203is there a naruto one
>>550704495It seems like putting the cart before the horse though.Make a game that's fun and then worry about making it fun for 1000 hours.So much of Poe seems to be about being playable for 1000 hours, and only then worrying if its fun.
>>550708304that sorta sounds like a rogue-lite. I enjoy that genre
>mystery box on xmas was the long ggg tradition>ever since jonathan took over theres no box and they dont do shit on xmas periodwas chris forcing them to go to office?
What should you be more afraid of?A giant fucking monkey with a huge stone pillar that has a long wind up and red flashing light to telegraph its slamORa small puddle of abyssal green shit you cant even see
>>550708304Sounds like grim dawn.Arguably better than poe tbqh.
>>550708445You can end up with a game that's only fun once, maybe twice though. That's pretty much what happened with poo2, actually. Endgame was shit out within a month, and is bad, and the acts are only fun once, and every subsequent run is an absolute chore/slog and not fun.Good luck retrofitting playing forever into that game. They're trying but somehow it's not working.>>550708545that was supposed to sound like any soulsike out there, because that's what those games are.
How many more weeks of 0.4
>>550708445here's where you're wrong kiddofun is not a consideration for GGG. Not a primary one, not an afterthought, it's just not considered at all
Did the patch make the league mechanic fun and rewarding?I want to know before I waste another weekend on PooP2
>>550708706I played 0.4 for a few hours before I dipped, and it feels like jonathon just took everything that was already wrong with poe and just cranked it up to 11. The whole game just feels even balder than usual. God forbid players have fun. That might break the economy.
>>5507087280.3 lasted for 15 weeksThat means 14 more weeks of 0.4With 0.5 coming out on March 27th
>Jonathan personally develops the mechanic>it's tubshit
>>550708304BOSSES YOU ONLY NEED TO BEAT ONCE??? YOU ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU CAME FOR IF YOU JUST MANAGE TO BEAT HIM? JONATHAAAAAAAAAAN SAVE ME I NEED MORE RNG AND DIFFICULTY!
Oh man i can't wait until the e-grifters fuck off until they do the same grift cycle next league
>>550709060you know they make way more money just streaming the game and pretending to have fun, right?
>>550708794does he look more and more like kripp?bonus kripp, he's having fun doing reynad's trannyshit instead of suffering in poo2 (which he shilled like no tomorrow)
>>550708794You probably won't like it unless it drops a full stack of divines every map. My advice is you should just stop playing the game and stop posting ITT.
>>550709240Nah I'm gonna keep posting about how Tubman ruined this company and both games with his shit stained sausage fingers.
>>550709060Yeah at least then you can enjoy your perfect game in solace, without anyone else bothering you.Oh.....
>>550709301Get a tripcode so normal people can filter your worthless posts then.
I've got this crazy idea.What if instead of enemies dropping currency that you used to make gear.They just dropped gear.You could even have the enemies drop different kinds of gear so there's more variety than just hunting divine orbs.
>>550709381No, I don't think I will You can get a trip instead, Rajbinderjeet
>>550709240>You probably won't like it unless it drops a full stack of divines every map.who asked for that? currently you build a temple, you run it for half an hour, the first couple iterations don't really drop anything except give you a bench to exalt/regal an item (wooow) and when you complete it there is a somewhat high chance to lose progress randomly.that isn't really fun, it would be fun if it had some unique rewards that were tied to only temple and somehow achievable in realistic timeframes.
>>550709184It's like a ecosystem they cash in when the first few days and then they hop on trends. Getting big views on a youtube video is like pure cocaine to them they can't resist it. They crave money but over everything the e-grifter craves attention
>>550709195kripp is gonna shill whatever card game is popular and fun for him and actually sponsors him or at least maintains good viewership, arps are a side hustle due to his fucked up wrists, best he can do is minion build with minimal clicking
>>550709352Please don't post outdated and misleadint screenshots170k right now? It wouldn't even be reaching 170k peak
>>550696307>kind of like they added sprinting to fix the huge maps and slow movement speed.Except sprinting is dogshit and usually gets you killedThere must be some kind of delay before you're considered no longer sprinting because there's too many times I've stopped and started mashing attack buttons only to still get forced into the slowass trip animation
>>550709403they do, but the gear they drop ain't exactly worth using>>550709650the key point in this screenshot is the red line that touches all the tips, and forms a perfect downward pointing trendline for the heights of poo2.
>>550709562>if it had some unique rewards that were tied to only templeGuess what?Anyways, don't like the game don't play it, it's not for you and it will never be for you
>>550709618i dont think kripp enjoyed past 10 years of hearthstone very much
>Cenotes>Sky Seer bossYeah, I'll skip, thanks.
>>550709656I can roll out of sprint pretty reliably to avoid getting tripped, and you can roll and block cancel most animations but you can't attack cancel animations. So you're probably right.
>>550709656my point was that sprinting was not a good solution, but just another layer added on top of an already bad foundation. i fucking hate sprinting.>problem: maps are too big and sometimes too empty, player moves too slowthe solution should have been:>make maps smaller, possibly more dense (without changing overall monster count), or make players fasterthe solution:>give players a way to go faster, but if any monster looks their way while using it they die
>>550709751Nobody likes it and nobody is playing it.
>>550709845Why is woodful so adverse to making good map layouts?
>>550709838hard to tell, but it was easy money for him for minimal effort
>>550709751see: >>550709352somehow it upsets everyone when people stop playing their game.hell, even you seem upset that you will soon be the only person playing the league. do i smell a woodful in here?
>>550709876What if we gave the players these spammable skills that specialized in movement? Like a fast ability where they charge forward while holding their shield up. Or a quick teleport that leaves chilled/burning/shocked ground where you land?
>>550709898I am
I wonder what you're doing now.. chris wilson..
>>550709876>Maps are too big>Uhhh we increased mob density>No, like as in they're just too big, its annoying exploring them, not that there's not enough mobs in them>Uhhh we added checkpoints so its easier to backtrack to clear them>No as in like...>Uhhh we added sprintingWhy is jonathon always like this? Always has to have the last word. Can't just shut up and do what he's told. Oh those players just don't understand. Always thinks he knows better. He knows what players really want, players don't know what they want. They think they want smaller maps but its actually less fun.
>>550697080>how to fix poo2delete it and put devs back on poo1
>>550710114>>550710049You must understand that only big-brained geniuses like Jonathan Woodful Rogers don't solve problems in the easy way. He explicitely avoids the easy way, and goes on a heroic quest to find the most convoluted solution that somehow still works but doesn't make anyone happy.Reminds me a bit of this old south park episode.
>>550710049That is the stupidest part.Dodge roll could have literally just been a skill gem. There is even shit to modify it that could have just been support gems but instead is shit on the passive tree.
>>550697432bashgreater bashbash but aoebash but yellowvery much cool
>>550710114>players don't know what they wantHmm kinda true though
>>550710052Anon, stop pretending.You're here, posting because you can't stand to load up that turd of a game and play. You're looking for positive reinforcement here, but all you find is doom. Deserved, unadulterated, realistic, cathartic doom.>>550710290this game is woodful's love letter to miyazaki, and the dodge roll is the common denominator in all of his games. you can't just expect him to do away with it.
poop of excrement 2 is bad.
>>550710421I just want specters to be good. I don't think that's a lot to ask for.400 monsters they put all this effort into giving cool skills to and they turn around and gimp them when you specter them.To what end? Is there really a player that asked for this?
>>550710421they sure as hell also know what they don't want though.
>>550709726>touches all the tips>doesn't touch 0.2
>>550710557To be fair i think we can all agree that it's very funny when minon cucks gets fucked over
>>550710568glances at player count
>>550710380AWAKEEEEEEEEENEEEEEEEED BAAAAAAAAAAASH
>>550707734this freak has been replying to earnest noob questions with webms of trannies for years now
>>550710642yeah, 0.2 was under the line.>that's a good thing btw.we really gonna pretend that 3 out of 4 perfectly forming a downward line is somehow not relevant?
i've been dooming about poe2 for like 3 years, even before release, but the giga-dooming rn is even too much for me
>>550710287Jonathan Needful Rogers
>>550710557You don't understand anon, they can't balance 400 monsters individually so as a precaution they made them all shit. If there was ONE good specter that breaks the game it would be a complete disaster so this possibility must be avoided at all costsNEVERRISKPLAYERSTASTINGPOWER
>>550710747You can form a perfect line between any two points. One more is not significant.Take your retard technical analysis to /biz/
>>550697841that is wrong.you can make 1-button skills do say 100% of the damage needed to clear the content, and make combo gameplay do say 120% of the damage of 1-button gameplay.that way you can choose between comfort or an excess in damage.the issue GGG has that if they did it that way everyone except for maybe a handful people would choose 1-button because it's just so much more comfortable, and they can't have that.
It will never cease to amaze me just how profoundly stupid the PoE community is. >fubgun says that abyss is the best strat and that breach isn't worth doing >good abyss tablets moon to over 1div each >abyss currency value stagnates or even goes down >meanwhile top tier breach tablets become dirt cheap >breach splinters are close to 1ex >letting you print ~0.5 div per map on splinters alone
>>550710850but it's 3 league tops, and they still line up perfectly:0.1, 0.3 and now 0.4if it was only 2 points, i'd agree with you, but 0.4 fit perfectly inside the 0.1 -> 0.3 line. watch 0.5 continue the trend.
>>550696073poegMe :)
>>550697581>>550697841Poe2's Deep And Meaningful Gameplay would probably be a lot better if the fat haired retard had ever played a game other than diablo 2, elden ring, and I don't know. Gauntlet? I don't know where his obsession with twinstick shooters came from.
>>550708950why not BIG SHIT? opportunity missed.
The dooming died out after the patch. People accepted that this is what they're eating for the next 4 months. They either enjoy it or moved on.
>>550697483poo1 is the reason this shit game existsEvery player peak for poo2 has been lower and lower with each patch poo1 consistently grew every leagueThese retards need to stop reinventing the wheel and make a good game.
>>550711252Surely one more doompost will be the straw that breaks the camel's back and convinces jonathon to fix his shit game.
>>550710290Wasn't it originally supposed to be a gem and have various ways to modify it to be different or to trigger things on dodge roll?
>>550711252Surely that's what you want as a gaming company: when the hate and passion turns into apathy and player exodus.I wanna be a fly on the wall in the GGG offices so bad (and lay my eggs inside jonathans coffee)
Need a clear clarification on the Oracle inevitable crits node: will the reroll crit damage reduction stop at 0%, meaning I will do normal damage, or can it go below my normal damage? Also, I assume that it pretty much lets all my hits activate on crit effects.
>>550711208it's based off a thumbnail from ziz's youtube
oh they nerfed lunar blessing? i dont' even want to play now, werewolf is complete dogshit without this buff up
>>550711324poo2 is Jonathan's heartfelt attempt to make his dream game without the poo1 community screeching at all the drastic changesTurns out the changes were shit and Jonathan's dream game is a big turd
>>550711324The issue is that at no point with PoE1 they tried. Anything GGG makes and turns out good got good on pure accident. Now they're hellbent on trying to make a good game and all it is is a tub full of shit. They need to stop trying for gods sake!
>>550711397>hate and passion turns into apathy and player exodus.Oh shit is /vg/ done with their menstrual cycle for the league?
>>550711252the patch is so dogshit that i gave up even on doomposting and just went to play something else. league is officially over.
>>550710114you are missing the first "solution"a long time ago, i believe shortly after 0.1 or maybe even before, woodful said in an interview that dead ends in zones arent a problem. the problem was dead ends not having a reward so the player feels like hes wasting his time. woodfuls solution? a fucking chest. put a chest at the end of the dead end and everything is great, player is happy. you can see this all over the campaign if you watch out for it. so many of those gigantic zones have a tiny worthless chest at the end of their many dead ends. its truly impressive how disconnected from reality he is.
>>550711252I doom because it's low effort and puts a smile on my face
tri is constructing the universe ending factbomb right nowits gonna be fineits gonna be okaytrust the plan
Did they make ritual more cringe? I wanted to take a break from abyss since I need to spam the fuck out of dodge roll not to get gibb'd and it seems much worse than before.
>>550711591depressing. the problem IS that the zone is too big and that it takes me half a working day to get through an act. putting fun distractions that ultimately drop nothing just adds insult to injury.
>>550711252Hate means people still care enough to be angry.If people simply give up and leave and that hate turns into indifference, that's when you have a problem.
so the only way for druid to not feel like shit early on is recoup with leech and ES stacking only? thats kinda shit wouldnt you think from a standpoint of defensive scailing
>>550711956new tri face just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJlevXKJd9UThis asshole makes me want to play the game
christmas holiday initiatedanything new in the past 8h?
I said this was bad a year ago, on 0.1 release. Took redditors only 1 year to catch up charges are flaccid shit.
>>550711956>le confused gamerdad face
>>550703531my ISP deleted the medium cost option so it was either shit internet or way more internet than i will ever need so i went with the latter. i can't keep every game on my storage drive, that shit's for videos.>>550703708this is literally just fearmongering, i checked my drives with crystaldiskinfo after years of heavy AI genning and gaming and they were at or above 99.7% integrity.
>>550712196>4 mod >no item filter lmao
>>550711956He has entered his schizoid phase
And just like that people are exploiting the temple.
Currency drops feel badI might have to buy supporter packs to get better drops
>>550712447how?by building temples that cant get deleted and running it over and over?
do i reroll to lilys build?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAsuBFcUJSo
>>550712231PoE2 charges ended up being what they tried to do to them in PoE1 ages ago. I think it was in the same forum post where they announced the shock/chill changes. Thankfully it got so much negative backlash they walked it back.
>>550711542My point exactly
>>550711591I don't fucking understand GGG's chests. I take the time to run up to a chest and click it to get... less than a blue mob's worth of loot? Completely fucking out of touch
>>550712307it depends on drive but you have to fully fill out your drive several times to make a dent, they are usually rated for many hundreds of times doing that.
>>550712634lmao they're a bunch of retards"SURELY THE SECOND TIME IT'LL WORK"
>>550712852they are incapable of learning from their mistakes, especially when it comes to poe2 learning from poe1s mistakesincursion has the exact same issues as betrayal which they just fucking reworked in 3.26
>>550711956
>>550712852That's GGG's MO really.>My idea couldn't possibly have been bad. The players are just overreacting. If we force it down their throats hard enough they'll learn to love it for sure!
>>550703709Orb of storms-overabundance-unleash on mouse1 spark-controlled desruction-unleash on mouse2 and frost bomb on mouse3(boss). Flame wall if you want 4 buttons…
>>550713002what a face turn
Any one button wyvern builds?
btw 4chanx works again
PoE1 and PoE2's recent league does feel like GGG is overworked atm, they both feel like decent ideas and additions to their games but were not fleshed out just enough for them to be lasting league mechanics, fate of the vaal is a good idea and mechanic but it doesnt feel as good as abyss with its loot drops or league specific currency that should be raining from this mechanic alongside uniques dropping all the time in temple for you to double corrupt in the temple to adding chests because nothing dropped from maps to temples not rising in levelsit feels rushed its 100% crunch from them i feel bad for GGG desu
>introduce Synthesis>People hate it>Reintroduce it again >People still hate itWhat was GGG thinking?
>>550712634i went and looked. tr/a/nny poster is dreadfully wrong, why do i trust those people?
>>550713125>Release Synthesis>flawed, but a good concept>Make a new version of it>learn nothing from Synthesis' mistakes
>>550713125streamers loved Synthesis...
soooo they now drop chests?? with shit loot ok
>>550713209more like>somehow make it even worse
>>550712596
excremental golem
>>550713324???
>>550713046Nice trinuke
>>550713123fina uoh
poobabies were really smug a year ago shitting on ever other gamewhat happened poobies?
>>550713159>If we make a similar change in the future, we will give more explanation of the reasoning>WE WERE 100% CORRECT AND YOU WHINY CUNTS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR GENIUS! THIS IS THE ONLY PROBLEM HERE!fucking GGG
>>550713372Metal music during the first few minutes
Whats the newest exploit thing
>>550713592is it comfy to play then
I played 0.1 for 350hrs and now i played 0.4 for 50. Game got a lot better and they added tons of stuff, Path of Exile 2 has a bright future and if you are trans you can keep playing 1. Problem?
Wait, if you consume freeze it doesn't proc ice herald?
I like poe2 more than poe1. I hate the linked skill gems system.
Increase wyverns movementspeed by 40% please
>>550713714People have found a way to make temple encroach upon the line of fun
tri posters pls go
>>550697467Not like poo1 numbers are any better.
>>550714198
>>550713123>overworked>rushed>they are about to go on a two months breakhuh?
Poop 2? Suspect stench
Should I play PoE2 or Honkai Star Rail?
>>550713159is rory still with ggg?
>>550708794Everyone rightfully shitting on it while clown69 is glazing GGG so hard. He thinks his still relevant to the POE scene when he's just a viewbotting retard who sucks at the game.
>>550697080I kind of like the poe2 gem system I just wish we had access to all supports at level 1 and they leveled up to 5 and got more powerful effects instead of being completely separate things
>>550713123keepers was not a decent idea >take breach (a fast paced map blasting mechanic) and turn it into fucking blight (an afk mechanic)>add fucking WALLS to the map that obstruct the playeryou couldnt make this idea good with a year of dev time
talkative tri.
>>550714724I like the gem system except for the uncut gemsKeep gems in their little tab and not part of gear sockets but bring back just buying a fucking gem from the vendor and levelling it up by killing shit
>>550714438They are overworked and rushed because they needed to release it just before toing on a 2 month break
>>550713123what exactly about either league shows they're overworked?the issue with both leagues isn't a lack of polish, it's an issue with their core vision
>>550714634He left ages ago.
anyone playin merc
>>550714834both systems are gayjust let people have any skill they want from the start.
>>550714923You're gay and possibly brown and definitely stink
>>550714634
>>550711078>twin stick shooters>aiming is sticky and automatically turns your character with controller>no way to turn it offPoe2 is the worst "twin stick shooter" I've ever played. Can't believe console players aren't absolutely shitting on this game
>poo2 releases>poo2 flops>the head devs of poo2 behind woodful leavehuh i wonder why
>>550711956Tri is a perfect example of how the elder doomGODs came to be.
flaming boi down
>>550715283>pf fubshitter
>>550715283>still playing the tubbed gamelmao how mazed are you
Im killing bosses in a single freeze as wolf. And thats using a weapon i got during acts.
>tradie>softcoreit's time to venture out of the crib
>>550715424from the crib straight to the tub
I got a hemroid from pooping too much... It hurts...
I'm having more fun doing Act 1 over and over with jank builds than taking a character through the entire campaign
>>550715540it's tubs all the way down
I'm actually having fun my werewolf is eating up t15s and I onnly have problems on full juice t16 abysses with the multi abyssal modded rares.this is the first time I reached this point this early in the league and the rare items my build needs don't even exist yet. how to learn to craft?
>release poe2 as a dumbed down version of poe1 to appeal to a wider, more casual audience>make a league mechanic that is completely inaccessible to a casual player>instead of being about just building a cool temple, its about building a temple that doesnt get deleted when you run it>need to look up guides on how the room deletion works and how to circumvent it in esoteric ways to get any value out of itare they just fucking retarded? this is the worst mechanic possible for a game like poe2
>>550708794the more rewarding it is the more frustrating it is because of how T3 setups work. it's legitimately just a trash mechanic. some players will make a ton of divs making undeletable T3 corruption altars and milking them every six maps while everyone else gets very little.
>>550711972>play a big scary bear>wet paper>play tiny woman wearing cloth>invincible
>>550715424>pretending ssf or hc is a milestone achievementso many humiliation addicts in these threads
>>550715908You see, magic is very very powerful in wraeclast, and controlling magic gives you insane powers.A bear on the other hand is just a retarded bear. He'll die to a couple arrows.
>>550714856>>550715030literally is anyone left from the old guard aside from jonathan and mark?
>>550716109The designfag from exilecon is still there, and i think andrew is there too.
my flame wall sometimes doesnt ignite the poison from my archerswhy
Did waystone drops get nerfed
>>550715030>fuck up your big big ARPG release bigly>be so ashamed you leave and make a completely different trash gameman, poo2 not only buckbroke the players but also ggg, huh?the fuck did those people do since 2019?
>>550715832>some players will make a ton of divs making undeletable T3 corruption altars and milking them every six maps while everyone else gets very little.this also drags down the value of those rewards so casual temple farming will net you fuck all. is it possible to farm atziri without destroying the temple? maybe that will be some profit for casuals at least
>>550716294gotta build up flammability lil gup!
>>550716371reeeeee
>>550715703
>>550711972Honestly armour is fine. Especially with the armour on ele damage mod. Not sure about evasion.I was full armour as wolf through campaign and now maps and its fine. Just the degen shit being broken as fuck is the only thing that gets me. Now, that's not to say eshield isn't broken as shit. It obviously is.
>>550711417yes it ends at zero crit bonus again and yes you always crit and can do dumb shit with it>>550711498you can still get perma uptime with the right gems, second wind, cool down and skill effect. there are some juicy skill effect nodes too in the druid tree but you don't even need them, they are just qol
>>550716109the composer guy is still there
>>550716331JUICE YOUR MAPS
it's not too late jonathan release the minor idols on either game and it will be save
Ok guys, we heard you loud and clear. Please come back or i won't get my christmas bonus from Tencent.We'll even make the chest in the temple rooms 50% more likely to be rare!
Next League I will play Explosive Spear Deadeye.
Get your darkness enthroned before a e-grifter makes a video
tremendous stench
>>550716331Of course
Oh boy, one of the new vaal chests. Lets see how much loot we get, shall we.
A POOISTMAS CAROL: Feat. Johnathan Rodgers as Ebenezer ScroogeChris Wilson as the Ghost of Pooistmas PastChairman Xi as the Ghost of Pooistmas PresentEOS as the Ghost of Pooistmas FutureTri as Bob CratchitMathil as Tiny Tim
>>550717119this will determine if i make a character right now and login
https://www.poe-vault.com/poe2/sorceress/disciple-of-varashta/djinn-minion-leveling-guide#127-gearing-progressionIm following this guide
WTF?
>>550698429>Yes. I don't mind it in theory, but the way it's currently handled is completely wrong. It shouldn't be as forced as it is.the thing about combos is that they are either mandatory or pointless, there is no in-betweenif spamming a normal skill gives you 1M dps and using a combo gives you 1.2M dps then everyone will be using combos because why the fuck wouldn't you? it's free damage! But if they are not giving you a significant boost, say 1M vs 1.05M(let alone if they are on the same level), then why the fuck would you ever bother with combos? Any missed timings or wrong button presses will cost you more DPS that it gives in the long run
>>550717293POGGERS
is bleed bloodmage fun___?>>550717293WTF I LOVE JONATHAN NOW????????
I really want to get a Vaal cultivated Doryanis Prototype with -60% lightning res but that shit will be a one in a million hit and no one is using cultivating on Doryanis.> Why Doryanis Prototype?Let's you play some giga armour+lightning builds, mostly melee but if you invest into presence area you can do ranged as well. The problem with the build before was that you had to use up two ring slots (for ventors) and an amulet slot to get close to the -200 res cap. With the corrupt you can replace one or two of those slots with a better piece which really scales the build hard.
>>550717293DOOMGAWDS NOT LIKE THIS
>>550717293LOGIN
>>550717306>there is no in-betweenBut in reality combo usage is only valuable for bosses after you get decent gear
>>550716339this is how it looks immediately after my last atziri kill. you still have to re-do the architect to get access every time unfortunately. but you can maybe realistically do an atziri every 18 maps.
now that the poe2 league is over and poe1 is unplayable, what are we gaming during the non-denominative winter holidays?
>>550717654Star Periphery
>>550717654gachaslop
>>550717654swtor
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e3PCR9bfp0do you remember?
>>550717654deadlock
does the DR from shaman's adaptation happen before or after the armour calc? i'm going to guess after or else it would be too OP
>>550717293NOOOOOOOOOO
>>550717654I'm going back to dota2 until phrecia or new league
>>550717654im thinking about installing civ4, never played it before.
>>550717293>inb4 vaal chests are more profitable than the temple
>>550717654Stellaris, Endfield in January
>>550717293
>>550717654Gonna finish Lies of P and then I guess I'll see if MonHun's performance actually improved since I have nothing better to do.
>>550718130>if MonHun'sMy condolences
>>550717293I've sent an e-mail to Jonathan, I'm sure he'll come into the office on Saturday to nerf this personally.
>>550717293YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LEAGUE IS SAVED BOISSSSSSSSSSS
>>550717306you're not really understanding the tension in this game. most players could do 50% more DPS to bosses by using a curse or a mark or a weapon swap and don't bother. everyone is leaving tons of damage on the table all the time.
>>550717293Thanks for pressing alt to confirm that you didn't drop the divs. This is actually pretty neat.
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
>>550718571RAH!!!!!!
holy corrupted/maxed 3x abyss tablet on a t16 8 mods map on overrun ain't a jokeeven with 20k es I get occasionally chonked below 50%
>>550718348ok, but what good does that do him? he still has an almost nonexistant brain and can't code for shit.
This patch is destroying the mental wellness of our beloved streamers https://youtu.be/5u1wZPn46Xs?t=756
>>550718436>DPS to bossesThe biggest issue with the game is actually that the bosses are squishy we already need double health on every pinnacle + uber bosses. We need that holy shit someone killed the boss moment
>>550718743He won.
for the coming holidays i need a s+++ starterthats super strongdoes super dpscomes online easily
>>550718846Eviscerate Ignite Elementalist
>>550718929brother
>>550718846>for the coming holidays i need a s+++ starter>thats super strong>does super dps>comes online easily
>>550718778the boss of the tower i just did had 12 million hp. but yes we need T4 pinnacles back, it's actually insanely retarded that they were ever deleted.
>no Atziri bathrobe mtx
>>550718965,..........
Ohh soul cores dont get the bonded bonuses? Thats kinda lame. I was using those for my chaos resistance.
>>550718846Rampaging bear
>After completing non-boss Fate of the Vaal encounters, a Chest will now rise out of the center and drop some items. In the campaign, this will be a magic chest but in Endgame it can be Magic or Rare.
>when your filters stop working for half a secondwhat's your response troon defenders?
>>550718961What? It's a solid starter and with the new retaliate shield you can easily do bosses without needing to get hit>>550718965is that Husky Starcraft?
>>550719117Would
>>550719117It's called an unflattering angle
>boss fight>floor the same color as the bosses attacks
>>550719117oy vey
>>550719185it's a man
I watched fubgun stream the other day and it changed my perception on PoE. I thought it's not a game you can "git gud" at, but his effectiveness during grinding is actually impressive. He blasts like 20 maps in the time I run 5. Same goes for his crafting, he profit crafts a whole stash in like a minute. No wonder he's so far ahead of everyone else.
>>550719263you wish faggot
>>550719229just oneshot the boss?
>sees a woman>think it's a manbuild for this feel
>>550719229>abyss on top of a boss>engage boss>gorillion mobs with degen crawl out of abyss on top of it>can't see shit
>>550719297>unironically watching Tubgun
i died to a boss, respawned, killed it but now the entire map is reset plus every point of interest is gone even though i wasnt finished with ritual/raresbug???
>>550719297>NOOOOOOOOO THAT GOES AGAINST MY NARRATIVE STOP ACKNOWLEDGING ITTTTTTTTT
>>550719556killing/fighting map boss wipes the whole map, do it last if you care about any other mechanics
>>550719556Intended. I'm pretty sure you get a warning too the first map boss you do
Why does this saar have so much gay porn on their computer book
>>550713159Close enough bitch.
My druid is squish AF. How much armor/ES before it isn't shit?
Jonathan the tub fillerHad a very stinky pooAnd if you ever saw itYou would say it smelled, too
Is the league fixed now?
>>550719632Despite all of PoE2's issues, I simply can't side with you faggots since you're disgusting AI pajeets.
>>550719654>>550719662yeah thats news to me, oh well
>>550719229makes you wonder what were they thinking while making the shaper and who had a meltdown because of a nice contrast between the arena and enemy attack colors.
doomers won
>>550719795I started feeling good at 8400ES+ ES leech.
>>550719795Maybe like 3k/12k
>>550717293fake and gay
>>550719841that's not AI, that's a real video from GGG head offices
>Despite all of PoE2's issues, I simply can't side with you faggots since you're disgusting AI pajeets.
>>550719841poe2 is literally ai generated
>>550719229>boss fight>cant attack the boss because dodging mechanics constantly or the fucker is standing inside his own mechanic>"wE waNt TO fIx meLEe."
fix your game
is bleed spear fun?
>>550720086this has been in the game since 0.1they dont know how to fix iteveryone with a working brain left
How long till we get another Ziz interview?
>>550720296NeverTri and Ziz made damn sure that Jonathan will only speak through ShillyD from now on
Poop 2? Putrid Stench
>>550720296ziz is so shitlisted, he won't even get another gauntlet
Another one!
>>550720296I wouldn't trust having Ziz on the same call with Jonathan for a while >>550718743
>>550720375why did tri do it??? years of worming thrown away in one video.
>>550719117she's a homely woman
>>550720505can't believe he used the n word like that and didn't get cancelled
>>550720296>Please let me finish.
>>550720106I'm played it on ritualist and beat the campaign. No clue how far it gets in maps since I can't be bothered to slog through the atlas this patch
Now’s the perfect time to bring back phrecia league as an event right before Christmas holidays. The league is dead (at only 7% retention rate to date). You have all the tools available, just redid phrecia, that’s all. You can even void the characters post event if you’re worried it will crash standard economy, and make it non transferable to league while on phrecia.
diarrhea fountain
>>550720440MAGIC? THATS LIKE THE SECOND BEST RARITY
>>550720651I thought there would be a fire in the comments but nobody seemed to care kek
>>550720564>>550720375what did tri do? i dont think hes even capable of non npc takes
>>550720813He dropped a trvth nvke doomgawd video after this banger tweet
>>550718743>blblblblLMAO
>>550720813Went into detail about how his wife shaves his nipples in the shower during yesterdays Raxx podcast
>>550720671can someone link the interview with a timestamp? i dont listen to poe2 interviews usually
>>550720874this was right after ziz stated he was playing crossbow warrior
>>550720907*Karui racial slurs intensifies*
>>550720920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFLwjFI4S4This is the interview, I can't be fucked to scan for it, but at the end Troonathon apologizes for getting heated, and you can see the seethe on his face throughout.
why does poe 1 have generator-spender gameplay
>>550720731you would have to be genuinely retarded to think that ggg would ever do something which would harm the terrible performance of this league even furtherevery single streamer would jump ship and play phrecia instead of woodfuls tub diarrhea player count would drop by like 50keconomy dead in an instant because all the blasters (every single one) would quitit would be a death sentence for fate of the vaal and johnnypoo knows itat best we might get a phrecia event in a month when they announce that 3.28 is delayed
>>550721472>5 gems vs almost entire gamelmao
>>550721472that's an expender, not a spender
I would respect people's opinions on Path of Exile 2 a bit more if I didn't already know that 99% of players don't even make their own builds anymore. I don't give a fuck about how you 'feel' about the options for buildcrafting, you don't even fucking buildcraft.
>>550721472you already posted this. if you are that lonely just talk to an ai chatbot or something. i heard they are quite good these days and they will call you a retard if you tell them to if thats what you really want
nigger
>>550721472meanwhile
>>550721634>I would respect people's opinions on Path of Exile 2 a bit more if I didn't already know that 99% of players don't even make their own builds anymore. I don't give a fuck about how you 'feel' about the options for buildcrafting, you don't even fucking buildcraft.
>>550721694>You cannot gain power charges while using this skillevery time
>>550721472huh? you generate charges passively, and don't press a separate button.meanwhile, poo2:
>>550721634>making your own buildyou mean choosing a skill and playing the build that jonathan made for you?
>>550721761Total trans victory
>>550721694>you cannot gain power charges while using this skilllol
>>550721805show me a single poe ninja profile that doesn't use a unique to help them sustain their flicker strike charges in poe 1, ill wait
>>550721807so whats a unique interesting build that you made in poe 1
>>550721850i don't understand, i was already arguing that point. you use farrul's fur to generate enough charges for you to flicker endlessly without a second button.in poo2, you are not allowed to do that by the nature of flicker strike.
>>550721850https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/keepers?skills=Flicker+Strike&items=!Replica+Farrul%27s+Fur&sort=dpsare you dumb?
>>550721847>>550721775I fucking hate this shit
>>550721694>>550721775>>550721805I don't get it, I'm leveling a monk now because that skill looked cool and I wanted to try it. I saw a guide on mobalytics for it. There must be some way to build up charges for it right? How are you supposed to use it?
>>550722061yeah, by pressing a separate button. enjoy your comboslop!
>>550721472it's not generator/spender thoughyou find a way to generate those charges automatically, charges are an issue that you solve and then never think about them again
>>550721978foulborn uul netols kiss banner champ heist lab runner750% movespeed, can tank heist and lab traps, can tank and oneshot lvl 83 izaro and the hecking flooferino
>>550722020?
Charges in poe1 are terrible because they are mandatory for every build. No reason at all your poe1 build shouldnt have them
>people still outting themselves complaining about waystone sustaindo they run blue t15s or something? ggg even stated you need to run more mods on higher tier maps if you want your waystone back.
>>550721203>the campaign should be fun to play, the amount of time it takes, to me, is not nearly as relevant as making it funthis explains a lot. did he never consider that even if the campaign is legit toppest of top tiers and if it takes too much time then its ultimately detrimental to the health of the game thats all about rolling new characters? like i personally dont even think that the campaign is bad, but if you tell me that i have to commit so much time every time i want to roll a new character then im for sure going to despise it sooner than later.
>>550722384I always thought waystones were guaranteed from last boss? sure feels like it
>>550720728Twink?How was it in campaign?
>>550722332lmfao are you stupid?
>>550722332>chance to lose a frenzy charge when you use a travel skill
>>550722468boss of a map is guaranteed to drop at least one, and it will be a tier higher (if possible) if the map is one that has the boss icon on it
>>550722468they are
>>550722061I tried it this league here is what you docast on crit + profane ritual to generate charges semi-passively while clearing (obviously you need crit chance for it but weapon affix + tree is enough)you use hand of chayula + culmination + ailith chimes unique support gemyou hit few times, you build up 20 combo on your hand of chayula, and then use it to generate 5 power chargesfor bosses if you walk into the fight without charges you will just need to hit them a few times first every time you use fllickerit takes a while getting used to
>>550722447Yes, and they just keep making it longer. An ARPG campaign should take less than 10 hours for the average dad gamer to be able to play over the weekend.The only reason it is longer is for retention, make it take longer means people will play longer, in their minds.Unless, as we can clearly see, people just stop playing something that isn't fun.PoE2 has 9/10ths friction to 1/10th fun, and it is NOT sustainable if they want to keep their game alive.
>>550722509flicker strike isnt even a travel skill. travel and movement are different tagsthe absolute state of pooptwoers
>>550722178poo2rists don't know that thoughhis version just says "You cannot solve this issue" and he assumes the same goes for our version.
>>550722756>>550722061there is a chestpiece that has 25% chance to grant a power charge on crit
>>550722447The poo2 campaign wouldn't be so bad if you could get access to every skill and every non-lineage support by act 3
>>550722468they are for white maps or something, beyond that you need 3-4 mods for yellow maps and red maps at least 4 maybe 5 to GUARANTEED drop a waystone from the boss. if you run magic t15s its probably like a 50-60% chance to not get a waystone
>>550722957retard
>>550722814but which part of the unique sustain frenzy charges retard
charges in>poo1everyone uses them, practically mandatory.>poo2its required to make some builds/skills even function
>clear the campaign once>waypoints are unlocked on your future characters from the get gogood/bad/irrelevant change?
>>550722756I think I'm just going to shoot the bow
hit yellow mapsevery upgrade is about a div on tradegot ~30 exthink im gonna call it lol
>>550720106i enjoy rake (played rake warbringer to level 92 last patch) but its pretty trash unless you're on blood mage. herald of blood is just insanely weak.
Poo2
>>550722874>can't gain charges during flicker strike anywayyou are basically sacrificing your body armor slot to press 1 less button(hand of chayula + ailith's + culmination)
>>550723051thats what im saying, obviously it doesntbut even if he thought it said "gain a frenzy when you use a travel skill" instead of "lose", it still wouldnt help flicker because its not a travel skill
i'm um.. thinking about buying d4 dlc..
PoE2 is bad, PoE1 is even worse.
>>550724230why
>>550724230I have more fun in poo 1
>>550721472PoE2 just arbitrarily adds "you cannot do X during Y" to make you press more than one button. You cannot generate power charges during flicker strike; WHY? PoE1 flicker is based, PoE2 flicker is fucking gay
If they don't release another fix patch by Christmas break poo2 is forever doomed with bad karma
Jonathan will provide us all with a Christmas miracle!
>>550721761can you please stop posting this degenerate shit
>>550723265When you get to maps, it's easy making money by picking up stuffs that people need.
pretty crazy what you can make for like 4 div not even using abyss
>>550724974>just run maps without tablets CHUD
I'VE BECOME SO NUMB
>>550724974are those level 65 djinn barya/ultimatums?
Did the patch save the game?
>>550725093so you fractured the flat phys, chaos'd the % phys, essenced the other stuff, then just randomly luckshitted the 19% AS without desecrating for some insane reason?
>>550725720>poe1 niggas infest poe2>demand poe2 to be turned into poe1>they don't like result and leave>people who joined poe2 for poe2 left because it isn't poe2 anymore but game closer to poe1, game don't care about
>>550719891nta but fucking hell
>closer to poe1lemao
noob hereI'm playing ssf right now because I heard I can transfer anyway and I'm still in act 2, but am I shooting myself in the foot in any way?
>>550725935i have 1350 hours in poe2 but i've played everything at this point (16 ascendancies to level 90+). there's no longer any build motivating me to to farm ritual.
>>550726183You're having more fun than you would be as a filthy tr*die, unless you're the kind of retard that enjoys playing with cheat codes
shit log
>>550725935retard
>>550725686Level 75-76
>>550726183its not relevant really. you cant buy or sell anything but you dont have any idea whats valuable or what you would want to buy anyway. just enjoy yourself bro
>>550703880>do nothing but walk through theme park>sometimes a slow lumbering monster pops out>kill it and collect 'le souls'>go back to campfire and respawn all enemies>get to lvl 150 and max all your stats>you have now beat the gamesouls games are only difficult with self imposed challenge of a no death run. There's not a single enemy in any souls game whose defeat doesn't revolve around some trite gimmick like cheesing it off a ledge or stabbing it in the anus where it's hitbox can't get you.Instead of the next iteration on elder scrolls games with deep rpg mechanics and world building, we got souls slop. This is a cursed time line. We should have baldurs gate in 3d going on a moral crusade and hanging faggots in game with the best action combat and skill customization that's ever been seen, but instead we suffer. We suffer because we fought the wrong enemy...
Poop 2? Fermented Odor
>>550726183I usually do the campaigns as ssf. Its obviously easier if you trade, since like 1ex can buy you a crazy weapon for your level. But I just find it tedious since levels come quickly and you can replace stuff fairly often. And it breaks my immersion.
>>550726546>>do nothing but walk through theme park>>sometimes a slow lumbering monster pops out>>kill it and collect 'le souls'>>go back to campfire and respawn all enemies>>get to lvl 150 and max all your stats>>you have now beat the game>souls games are only difficult with self imposed challenge of a no death run. There's not a single enemy in any souls game whose defeat doesn't revolve around some trite gimmick like cheesing it off a ledge or stabbing it in the anus where it's hitbox can't get you.>Instead of the next iteration on elder scrolls games with deep rpg mechanics and world building, we got souls slop. This is a cursed time line. We should have baldurs gate in 3d going on a moral crusade and hanging faggots in game with the best action combat and skill customization that's ever been seen, but instead we suffer. We suffer because we fought the wrong enemy...
>one week into league launch>catalysting a single ring still costs 1divhow did this happen?
>>550726663Jesus
How do I farm t15
I genuinely believe Jonatroon uses AI for game design and balance
New player here tried Third floor of trial of sekhema, what the fuck is this cancer shit. Why the fuck are there worms that jump up from the ground and hit you and then go under ground invulnerable wtf. Easiest trial (hourglass) failed me bcuz it became a wormpit.
OH NO NO NO HOPESISSIES....DON'T LOOK!!!!!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbXgjm-9Loo
>>550708041B A S E D
>>550726321>>550726524>>550726632thanks bros
>>550708445But..... Poe2 isn't fun
>>550727595
>>550726546Soulslikes aren't games, they're social experiments where the only goal is to inhale your own farts and claim superiority over others. That's why PoE 2 is the #1 game in India.BTW if you respond with "PoE 2 is easy" you just proved my point and your skin color.
What build for this feel?
>>550727794sounds like you got filtered, brownoid :)
>>550727886dominating blow guardian
>>550727886cast on death discharge
>>550712196this build hurts to look at. It's like 1/5 the power of a regular spark build, no speed, no defenses, has to stop to cast the totems. They overloaded a shitty playstyle with a fucking dozen downsides and to what end? Regular spark is a fucking walking simulator build that needs no thinking and someone totems are "too autopiloted"? What about fucking crossbows that literally hold right click while walking forward? Bows? fuck this company
>>550727794What's even worse is that these games are designed for people who are so bad at games that they can't compete in PvP games.You could play any PvP game right now and hit challenger and people would respect you but you can't so you put 5,000 hours into a slot machine simulator until it shits out enough items that you can oneshot an entire PvE game with no mechanics or skillful gameplay necessary.
>>550727886consecrated path
>poe 2
What build should I play in PoE1?I already have a Mageblood and like 50d in the bank
>>550728406>What build should I play in PoE1?>I already have a Mageblood and like 50d in the bank
>>550728406cast while shitposting gladiator
>>550728103Can you post some gameplay of yourself hitting 'challenger' in a PvP game?You're not lying about being good at video games.... right?
trying to make a grenade witchhunter guy but every profile I look at on poeninja is a clusterfuck of abilities. anyone play this and know what the good shit is?
>>550727020>only 20 divsI made more on the first weekend, lol
>>550728510h-hot
>>550721761when will you kill yourself tranny?
just fucking EOS this piece of fucking dogshit POO TWO (2) already
>>550728515I did that this poop2 season sorry
>>550727365>no views 10 seconds agowhy are you making videos from my posts ziz >>550697670but its true, they really should take more time between leagues.
>>550726663lmao i love the tranny melty happening. How fucking unstable are you since 2024 lil eunic?
what triggered the tranny webm poster? ive never seen him like this
>>550728909They should just do:Feb - PoE1May - PoE2Aug - PoE1Nov - PoE2But they won't because that means less supporter pack sales
>>550696081you are one of the best posters we have
>>550728406kboc
>>550728372>taken just moments before disaster
>>550729121he does this every time theres consistent dooming going on. He's probably some discord loon with some hyperfixation on jonathan. might be vtuber brainwashing
>>550725935from the look of it everyone else already left the game, we're the only ones left to care
>>550727654Do you have the one where he sets on fire?
>>550729121envy and self-hate. he who envies secretly desires to be the thing he's supposed to hate.
>>550725935in what way has poe2 been made closer to poe1? the fucking sprint button? Just don't press it loony-troon
Damn this game is awful
>>550725935good riddance
Uhh..hello? PoE1 events? Wake up GGG
stagnant corpse fart
Poop 2 has made me the most productive I've ever been at my WFH job
>>550729121TakakazuAbe#0820 is just like that, don't even mention RMT to xim either!
>>550729982whomst?
>>550729663Christmas break please understand
>>550729154in long term they are going to lose more supporter packs because theres higher chance of burnout and people skipping leagues
[GOOD NEWS] PoE2 only lost 7k players today~!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbXgjm-9LooZIZ IS MAD
>>550730201He's been out of control the past few days
>>550730316I think his wife isnt letting him nut anymore
>>550725917i was chaosing off desecration and hit the phys yeah. no point in descrating if you just hit
>>550730201most logical solution is less poe1 leagues.
>>550730316I believe it's jonathan who is out of control. He is refusing to get out of the tub
>>550730361>wife not letting him hit>see Atzri during reveal and focus your energy to nutting to her in game>clear 100 maps and finally reach her room>Jonathan cucks your run and makes him start freshI'd be pissed too
>>550730201>2 monthsthey've been working on druid for years, release cadence has nothing to do with 0.4 or 3.27
>>550730527Honestly most logical solution is less poe2 leagues and just roll out changes to standard. Give the gamer dads a chance to try new shit without the fomo of a league, which will just burn out these people who don't want to roll a new character and keep doing the campaign.Then they can focus on new leagues for poe1 until they unshitify poe2
Poe2 is a fundamentally bad game. Shut it down and use its assets to improve poe1.
PoE 2 is bad
>>550730125that's in line with the 10% per day. good job grinding rear games!
0.5 will unironcally go above 500k players because endgame changes is what people actualy want
Stinky Shart Studios
>>550730753STOP TALKING BAD ABOUT MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
GGG more like J(onathan) J(eets) J(ews)
>>550731080>>550730912
>>550731037*generates a frenzy charge*
>>550730725people don't care about poe1 that much. poe1 at its core is launch week and then the gauntlet, you can do that every 6 months but there isn't enough interest in the game past that.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJdNuLvEwE0i didnt really pay any attention to titan quest shilling in here but it does actually look pretty promising
>>550731351Crouching tuna hidden Faggot shilling for a far inferior, alpha state game btw
welp adding cast on ailment does fuckall for clear and honestly need to test against bosses with more hp to see if it even makes a difference in dps against bosses but at least it looks cool
>>550731401game's already better than poo2
>>550731401but enough about poo 2
>>550730872I want death of trading
>>550730826lmao what is that
>>550731525why does it bother you that other people trade?you can just not trade yourself, and you will forever be unaffected.
>>550731728he cant play ssf because its too hard so he wants ssf to be made easier
Just got to act 3 and man it feels like everything before this was a tutorial. The monsters are so much more plentiful and murderous. I feel like I'm constantly fighting just to not get swarmed. I feel like I'm doing half the damage and taking twice as much as just a few minutes ago.
>>550731585a jonathan bathing
>>550731836why is that, actually
>>550731854i don't think he is bathing, that looks more like the Poo2 development process
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6EhOXa0lKs>Cooking up The Strongest Wyvern Build (Basic Attack)>Basic Attackthe absolute state of poe2
>>550732146>KABOOM>5 view literal whohe rmtd
>>550731250complete horseshit. We had our best league right up to poe2 beta launch and then they completely fumbled consistent releases and the whole franchise has been up in flames since then. If anything, releasing poe2 in this early shit state, has only hurt their bottom line and driven away players from both games. No one likes poe2 for being poe2, they like it because it's supposed to be a sequel to poe1
>>550732146it's always been like this
>>550732146literally grim dawn lmao
>>550732189>he doesnt know fastafjust how many newfriends are here
>>550732146Wyvern is the most OP melee build there is albeit slow
Went back to 1Having a literal blast with Artillery Ballista Jugg
>>550732315>fastafThe guy sells build guides, shit ones at that, for moneyHe's a grifter
no matter how i look at it "crafting" in poe2 feel like a memeif I want a better weapon how do i go about it without just going to trade and buying it? Get a blue base then essence it 2 times and desecrate? repeat until you get lucky?
Can I not inflict exposure or elemental weakness on bosses?
PoE2 is just yet another failed Diablo-like.
>>550732387and?
>>550731728Are you retard or merely pretending?
>>550730872>still havent fixed controller auto aim or hotswap>still shitty support gem system>still no interesting item affixes for crafting>still no good uniques>shit combo skills all lag behind spark and lightning crossbows/bows>new playstyles they come out with are all dogshitThis game literally peaked with 0.1 and everyone knows it. Every other shit combo oriented playstyle they come up with just bloats the game with a dozen support gems no one wants to use and skill interactions that are hamfisted and don't work on a fundamental level without jumping through a dozen hoops. If that's what players have to look forward to with the games development, no one is going to play
>>550732146lmao
>>550732468WDym, and? FaggotHe rmts, posts shitty builds with RMTd stuff in a shitty video quality and sells his shitty builds for real life moneyFuck face
>>550732532and?
>>550732146shill your shitshow somewhere else fag
>>550732470You didn't attack my argument. Try to attack my argument, please. I suspect you can't.
>>550732652What the hell is coaching in the context of poe
>>550732828taking money from retards
>>550732828the guy is from singapore, he is just trying to buy a bowl of rice man, lay off
>>550731407I mean they're spells. You have fuck all spell damage while wielding a talisman and you don't have any spell damage from the tree either. Why do you think that'd work?
I have come exhausted and overtired to report on finishing those 20 t16 corrupted 8mod Beach maps. I invested in scarabs, i put together an atlas, I went to work at it.Investment:20 t16 8mod corrupt Beach Maps (2c each) - 40c40 Monstrous Lineage (2c each) - 80c20 Cornucopia (70c each) - 1400c 20 Doubling Scarabs (42c each) - 840c 20 Timelines Scarabs (9c each) - 180cTotal: 2540cPayout:1 Valdo - 183c5 Sacred Blossoms (41c each) - 205cVarious Chronicles/T17s - 1411c (that's what's in my shop and i emptied it before i started)Purple Juice (28,539) (85:1c) - 338cBlue Juice (41,983) (48:1c) - 875cYellow Juice (46,964 it's a palindrome??) (15:1c) - 3173cTotal: 6185c6185 - 2540 = 3645c profitIn the interest of space, I turned 4900c into 29d.
>>550732971cool but nobody cares. maybe the redditors care?
>>550732891he needs his Varsapura funds
>>550732225i think everyone agrees that poe2s release killed poe1, you aren't going to unring that bell.people played poe2 and they see its potential, poe1 looks like shit by comparison.
>>550733052>stop discussing the gameKill yourself, jeet. PoE2 flopped.
>>550731250poe2 is on track to go below settlers player numbers within the next few leaguesof course at this point poe1 number will be even lower because theyre killing it too
>>550732891anon you do know that people in singapore are on average more wealthy than in most other countries right
>>550733142It's always just with the optics.poo2 looks good, but plays shit.poe1 don't look so good, but is digital crack.poo2 will never be good.
>>550732729D3 had trade on launch. Result? Extremely shitty game that pretty much killed Diablo as series. Blizzard later removed trade and it made game much better but because entire game was designed around trade (real money at that) they could only do so much by just removing trade and adjusting items/drops accordingly. Same goes here, you may not understand it now since all you see (and saw with PoE1) is trade but if trade is removed as a thing and GGG follow with items/drops redesign PoE2 will become much better game.
>>550733142>see its potentialIs that why people are leaving in droves every league?
i still havent seen anything about poe2 except for>it looks good (could have been a visual update for poe1)>its so simple that i can understand >it has no content so theres nothing for me to learn>the campaign is better (but i want a campaign skip)
>>550733324>Trade has been around since forever>Game has just keep going up for a decade>"UMMM D3 HAD IT AND IT WAS BAD????"Where do you niggers even come from?
>>550733324go back to your card game chris, nobody wants ssf ruthless
>>550733324why do you people always argue like this? we really gonna compare the d3 real money auction house to what poe has? come on anon, get the fuck outta here.as i said earlier, you can tick that ssf box and you can have the unadulterated no-trade experience, what is your exact problem? do you want ssf to be easier? i think we both know that even IF trade gets removed, that will never happen.
>>550733324you sound like a newfag that heard stories about d3 from others and added his own spin on it because its some kind of ancient arcane knowledge for you
>>550733247singapore yeahnot people playing on the singapore realm which includes all kinds of third worlders
>die to a boss>instantly kill it on the second tryFUCK
>>550733324>i deliberately tick the challenge mode check box>get mad about it>want the non-checkbox mode to be removedhuh?
>>550733482maybe if they balanced drops around ssf ruthless instead of max party magic find groups
>>550732913mostly because it just says it deals X cold damage
>>550732971Unironically very proud of you, begfag. You've stepped into the big leagues and made several Divine off the cuff instead of just trying to get 2-4c per map.
>>550733482chris never played ssf btw. he always was and forever will be a tradechad.
>>550732146i play this build but i have 10,000 hp instead of 1900. you could say it's the best wyvern build because it's the only wyvern build.https://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/parmreggiano-7772/character/parmbrodo
>>550733324ssf is literally normal game but 5x longerlonger to levellonger to progresslonger to upgradenobody has infinite time
>>550733324>make a giga dishonest argumenti can do that too:Last Epoch has the SSF you want right now. Result? See attached picture.
this league would be a good mechanic for a game where you dont have to wade through liquid shit for 30 minutes to get a run with 6 temple rooms
>>550733324dont bother, tradies will never appreciate ssf because they dont want to actually play the gamethey just want to pick up divines and buy gear
>>550733279it "plays like shit" because ggg haven't added casual league starters to the game yet so people are getting hard stuck.in poe1 anyone can pick one of a dozen starter builds to effortlessly run through the campaign with zero friction, poe2 doesn't have that yet so poe1 players get filtered early because they can't into picking up items or gambling with the vendors.
>>550734117anon, i don't think you understand the guy you are responding to. he wants SSF to be easier (probably roughly as easy as trade is, but without trading)
>>550733895TRVKE holy. This shit is exactly what casual players claim to want, deterministic crafting, ease of building and general variety, support SSF mode with targeted uniques and better drop rates. All of that and none of them actually play it, interesting isn't it
>>550733121sauce?
>>550734204It's funny how you're implying they would add something like that because 2 has a hard on for its campaign being """"hard"""".
>>550734117i do in fact want to play the game, i want to use preserved collarbone to make an amulet and ssftards like yourself want to have to run four dozen abyss maps before they maybe get a chance to do so once.
>>550734204surely 0.5 will fix your gamehow do you guys still hope?
>>550733895the most insane thing about this picture that project d2, a fucking mod to a 25 years old game, has 4k people online at this moment.
>>550734408>i want to play the game>oh FARMING ITEMS? no i dont want that, thats boring
>>550733052Please donate me your pants so i may shit them>>550733740it wasn't easy, and i switched to Double Strike instead of Sunder/Divine Smitei need to sleep, thank yuo for coming to my ted talk
>>550734438I get nervous every time the camera pans
reminder that the only people seething about trade are dad gaymers upset that they will never catch up
>>550734517Now that's a bit unfair, it had an update fairly recently. LE's only update was bad news lol
>>550734565not the guy you responded to, but my issue is mostly that i love farming and making my own items, but in ssf the game gives you random drops, and i find it giga demotivating if you get something that's really good, but just not for the build you are playing.my second issue is, that i have to farm varied content, i enjoy going real deep on specific content, and that content doesn't necessarily drop what i need to improve my character.
>the best way to farm a headhunter in poe2 is using 2 negative rarity ventors to get white heavy belts and chancing themwhat kind of retarded faggot made this game
>>550734675this is the biggest TRVKE
>>550734635why is that?
>>550733895You are dishonest. I bought D3 on release and it was ok in the end, once they removed trade.LE on other hand? I didn't bought this game because it was obvious pump & run project.>copy PoE but dumb it down>progression is hard locked behind classes and skills unlike gems To me it was obvious they wouldn't be able to progress their game at all and since this is but shitty copy of PoE they wouldn't be able to come with anything original or interesting. They selling themselves to Krafton because of their high peak numbers (thanks to paid streamers) was expected. People who bought LE are retards and their opinions on ARPG genre should be null&void.
Fubgun KILLED the economy and now I can't play the game
>>550734686its still insane, i didnt expect pd2 to be so alive.
>>550734675TRVCLEAR HOLOCAVST
>>550734963Who knows what abomination lies outside of the frame
>>550734739so in essence you never wanted to play ssf
>>550734969>noooooooo this is not even truuuuuuuuueit's about as dishonest as you are.D3 had giga upped drop rates and was a fucking theme park ARPG. We both know GGG would never go that path, no matter how hard you wish for it.
>>550734204gambling is literally worthless. in fact, the entire campaigns drops are fucking worthless. I've run 3 characters through to 65 this league and I have to recycle gear I bought every time because fuck all drops. Havent gotten a single usable item from a vendor this entire time
>>550734785>company is filled with people who love diablo 2>hire david brevik as a consultant during the development or your second game>base items and vendors become an important part of character progressionit's a mystery.
>>550734306wow, almost like the game is a shit unity asset flip and the gameplay is trash eh?
>>550735209>giga upped drop ratesThat's the problem too because both extremes are bad. PoE 2 now in EA stages, it can afford to do experiments. Just imagine, next league with no trade? Would be fun but no, lets get another slot machine mechanic and call it a day.
Which one of these should I pick?
>>550734739>my second issue is, that i have to farm varied content, i enjoy going real deep on specific contentthe problem is that the game is designed around tradea lot of content can not be farmed more efficiently past a certain point precisely so theres something for the retarded dad gamers to farm. harbinger drops could scale with map mods, beast rarity could scale with map mods, betrayal intelligence and safehouse rewards, essence, you get the idea. but they dont. same thing with bossing. the reason? trade. a strong character cant get that much more loot than a weak character or its "unfair" for the casual playerswhen you remove that from the equation, you can start to make the game in a way that is a lot more fun for a single player
>>550735519I don't know nigga what are you playing
>>550735483>Just imagine, next league with no trade?Based doomGOD trying to sabotage PoE2 for the kill.
>>550735121yes, but your initial argument was that trade players don't "want to play the game", which is just a lie. i wanna play the game, just not every part of it. i'd consider myself a "trade lite" player.>>550735483so let me get it straight: the game that you used as a positive example what you want wasn't actually what you want? that don't make no sense anon, maybe you should go back to the drawing board to think about what you want.
>>550735519>the smell is bad enough
>>550731401they ALWAYS pull the same shithappened to last epoch as wellthey'll always fuck off poe and be back like roaches
>>550735483>Just imagine, next league with no trade?yeah i can imagine that very easily, you will still be stuck in acts after 2 weeks.
Why are waystones so rare this league
>>550735616I'm using a leveling build right now but I was planning on trying this build at endgame.
>>550733895yeah but like last epoch is fucking terribledid you ever try it? its really bad
>>550735867I don't believe people rely on trade to clear the campaign
why cant i blow up my raging spirits with explosive demise (arsonist skeleton) anymore? It even shows the red dot in the flaming skulls. Is it bugged for me or something?
>>550735708if you dont want to be self sufficient then ssf is not for you, thats all there is to it.
>>550735595>a strong character cant get that much more loot than a weak character or its "unfair" for the casual playerswhat? you do need a strong character or you can forget doing the content that drops most loot: T17.it sounds like you want a single player game, so why don't you go and play a single player game, like grim dawn or something along those lines?both PoE games are live service games, and will never work the way you are describing.
>>550733193Keep digital wageslaving you turd world jeet coded peasant.
>>550735895Usually the guides tell you what to pick
>>550735969ok, what's the part that makes it terrible? would you say the part where you get any item on a whim is bad? the part where no drop feels good? the part where there's little to no challenge?i wonder what makes the game this way...>>550736039well as i said, the thing that demotivates me most is dropping something good that isn't for my build.
>>550735595>a strong character cant get that much more loot than a weak character or its "unfair" for the casual playersThis is completely delusional. Most content can be juiced to be so much harder for more loot so a stronger character will get more than those that isn't. Compare and contrast some shmuck doing regular blight to someone doing Blightheart + legends + treasures just to name one. Or someone doing 5 ways. Strength matters.
>>550735972the discussion is about a dad gaymer being stuck in acts for two weeks and seething that people get rich from playing the game and finishing their builds in days because of trading their wealth.
>>550736058you missed the pointyes there is content that requires and rewards a strong character but for the casuals to be happy, there also has to be content which DOES NOT reward a strong characterif you could juice all of those retard friendly farms then they wouldnt be making any currency and we cant have thatit doesnt matter how much loot you get in a juiced map. you could drop 10 divines every map. as long as a mechanic 1. can not be scaled and 2. drops something that the t17 blasters need, that mechanic will be close to as profitable as farming the most difficult content in the game. you can see this in literally every league in path of exile history where the profitability of basic redditor retard farms depends on the amount of raw divines, scarabs and uniques dropped by juiced content
>>550736141This one didn't as far as I could see. Can I just save the reward and pick it later?
>>550735519last time i checked, ailment threshold was harder to get on the tree and in lower amounts so go for that
>>550736272>ok, what's the part that makes it terrible?the animations, engine, graphics, and gameplay is bad, not the itemization system, which is fine. The game has a plenty interesting item hunt with lp modifiers etc, it just isn't fun to play because of janknice strawman though
>casual gamers also need loot, even if they don't really play the gamewat
have any of you ever hit lv100?
JONATROON
>>550736272then play a new build? you dont want ssf, you want easy mode.
>>550736459Yep you can save it. Just feel for what your build needs most in endgame. I'd argue it's better to wait until you are more or less happy with your mapping gear
>>550735708Where I asked GGG to copy Blizzard 1:1? I said D3 improved with removal of trade which is fact. The fact that Blizzard used "giga upped drop rates" to compensate is bad extreme
Oracle fucking sucks for a wolfpack minion build but so does Shaman, I have no idea what to use. Shaman makes you tanky and I guess the permanent exposure helps though exposure is easy to apply. Oracle genuinely caps at 4 points, you don't benefit at all from most of it.
>>550735972I had to 3 times this league. Could not get res capped because every fucking item i dropped was dogshit
>>550736354>Most content can be juiced to be so much harder for more loot so a stronger character will get more than those that isn't.you also missed the pointthat content feels good to do in ssfhowever there is content which can not be juiced and that content feels pretty miserable, all you can do is run it slightly faster by stacking movement speed / aoe
>>550736450there is content like that though: essences, beasts, harvest, heist, you name it. it's rock solid stable content that will mostly not yield jackpots but stable profit that people will buy from you, because the mats are needed en masse.i don't even know what you are saying here.i suspect you're just mad that you can't keep up with the juicers and want to take them down a couple pegs so you can compete with less effort.
>>550736510instant gratification crowd is a plague
I crafted a crossbow that's worth at least 12 div using only 2. I'm slowly becoming a hideout warrior.
>>550736725>there is content like that though: essences, beasts, harvest, heist, you name it. it's rock solid stable content that will mostly not yield jackpots but stable profit that people will buy from you, because the mats are needed en masse.exactly, thats what im talking aboutthat content sucks in ssf because its designed around providing a farm to bad players so it cant be juiced
>>550736492wait, so you judge the quality of an ARPG mostly by the quality of the assets and animation? how did you stick around poe1?
I have a shaman bear at 90 and a blood mage plant caster at 86. Both have decent item find and both do yellow maps. I have seen exactly 0 div drop this league. Bad luck?
EVERYTHING IS OK GUYS0.4 IS STILL DOING BETTER THEN NECROPOLIS
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>>550735972I don't need trade to do the campaign but I do need it to do it quicker. Spell scaling is cucked by late game +levels and you can bet your ass I'm buying the next tier of +levels to get through the slog quicker.
>>550736571>easy modesure thing anon. show us your giga chungus hardmode character, i need a good laugh. i bet you don't even play actual hardmode, aka ruthless.
>>550735519I pick mana regen every league because an extra 25% is very noticeable and as your gear improves and you level up you'll naturally get higher ailment threshold and stun threshold from higher life affixes and the base life per level but nana regen always costs an affix slot on gear and often you can't afford to fit it on jewelry compared to something else like defenses or rarity.It also kind of depends what part of the tree you're playing in, I'm in bottom right side so if I wanted more ailment or stun threshold I could get it if I really needed it but it'd be way too many points to path to mana regen. If you're playing CI take the mana since your life will always be 1 and you need threshold based off energy shield anyways
>>550736648I never found you needed to be res capped to survive campaign. I don't play HC but my past couple of runs I cleared deathless on SSF tripping and getting raped by mobs doesn't count
>>550736725are you saying that essences, beasts and heist sucks for ssf? so where do you get your essences and beasts from then, out of your ass? you want 1 map to provide you with enough essences to make 1 whole item? that's delusional.>>550736579you used D3 as the "good example" for removing trade and the game becoming better. but it actually didn't become better and it's not even a good example. which leaves me with the question: when did what you suggested ever work?
>>550736647tactician
>act 4>fighting some BS monster with HP regen out the ass>respawn at checkpoint>almost kill it>run out of flasks>respawn at checkpoint>notice my flasks aren't refilled.yeah yeah yeah nice fucking game you stupid faggot
>>550732470I noticed you couldn't answer him. All that needs to be said.
>>550732402You could go on the youtube and watch a guide. Captainlance did one recently that is alright from the few min i skipped through.
