Small Guy EditionPreviously in /coopg/: >>550556405>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Tell me about Wolfer. Why does he wear the mask?
>>550700890Because they have a way out.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>looking for an ogryn or a vet>oh hey some applied>one is a melee vet>the other is an ogryn with the most retarded build I've ever seen. Bully club with momentum+confident strike. achylis stubber with opening salvo+pinning fire elite damage >deny him>he spends the next 15 or 20 minutes or so spamming the invites, even when im not declining he just retracts and reapplies over and over againWhat causes someone to behave in this way.Why am I not allowed to block someone from the party finder screen
>>550700798Finally a cosmetic that will fit my son. He has been saving his aquilas for a long time hoping to get a premium cosmetic but could never find one in his size.
>>550700890Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a woman, before turning her into a servitor.
>>550701021SHUT YOUR MOUSEHOLE
>>550701043ˡᵒʸᵃˡiˢᵗˢ!
>>550701043
>>550701141Does this entire plotline just not exist in game anymore? Obviously not mad about it because it was abysmal dogshit but it's just really funny to think about how badly this game was managed until the past year when it actually started making progress
>>550701141>be me>doing campaign missions which DO exist>"we're after the chaos captain wolfer">final cutscene>WE FOUND THE TRAITORWot?
KARKY LITTLE KARKERS!
>>550701141This plot twist really got me, I thought the traitor was me!
>>550701380there's an archivum mission where you transmit a message from the roof and they mention not trusting local comms on the ship because there's a traitor aboardyou should've got a cutscene where rannick is looking at a dead body at an ipad in some broom closet that implies there is a heretic spy aboard the ship too
Each class has 3 ults and 3 personalitiesWhat do you think the ‘canon’ voice is for each ult?Professional - Executioner’s stance (By the books rifleman)Loose cannon - Infiltrate (Slippery fish who might possibly desert)Cutthroat - Voice of Command (The most aggressive one, makes sense for him to be screaming on the frontlines.)
>>550701541Vermintide 2 had better missions.BIG BELL BAD,DESTROY! PUMPKIN!
>>550701024John is also a shitty name for an ogrynYou should have accepted him, kicked him and then blocked
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>550701736I would if party finder let you actually kick people, you have to reform the party entirely if you want to get rid of someone.
What weighs several tonnes, draws ratmen like flies and sounds awful? If you just answered "oh no, not another bloody bell" then you win a pumpkin, you lucky bleeder.Don't eat it all at once, because you'll need provisions on your way to destroying the wretched thing. We don't actually know if that lump they've raised in Helmgart is a real screaming bell, but better safe than sorry.
>>550701618It's very easy for the zealot.>BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR>SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONEShroudfield for the judge and chorus for the agitator.
>>550701736>You should have accepted him, kicked him and then blockedLast I checked kicking isn't even an option if they join your strike team. You can only kick them once inside a game.
Does HIV CUM still die in a few hits and is any other build outside desparato usable?
>>550701887That's an easy one, don't get hit.
WOOHOO 3 FUCKING RED DUST
>>550701882>>550701804I guess it doesn't work if you already got players on your team. Otherwise you could just accept and then leave the striketeam
>>550701141The campaign feeling so disjointed and half baked just makes me wonder if they truly do not give half of a shit about darktide. Why even make the game if they're going to leave everything half finished before going on vacation for three months?
>>550701141Congratulations, you got the twins killed. What's the next step of your masterplan?
>>550701997that's that great and generous game verminkeks fight for?
>>550702101and darksissies got...?
>>550702142500 aquilas
>>550700798>crypticwhat, and where did they get that from
>>550702198wew
>hive scum with nimble>dodge sideways at the top of a stairway>get launched half a meter into the airwhy the fuck is this a thing that can happen
>>550701043>>550701141>>550701274Good posts.
Is it really that hard for Fatshark to buff ogryn where he doesn't drop the fucking powercell from a tiny ass zombie. At least let him slap zombies to get out of his way to the objective. Ogryn should at least give golden toughness, tank reduced damage from poxwalker, consume a whole stanima bar to one shot a dog that jumps him or breaks a trapper net, same with carrying downed players. Can't wait for heavy bolter update/melee option.
>>550702909Ogryns should also be able to wear ultramarine armor and use the best guns and hold twice the ammo AND get all the rations.
>>550702909>Is it really that hard for Fatshark to buff ogrynyes, pretty sure most of the playtesters are still advocating for skullcrusher bonus to get halved.
>>550702909Ogryn needs something for ammo economy while we're at it. One of his archetypes is literally GUNLUGGER and he has the worst ammo economy of any class unless you are using the rumbler.
>>550702909Ogryns can knock over poxwalkers by dodging into them to prevent them from interrupting them while carrying something
>>550702909what you can already dodge into poxxers to stagger them and fall on ground, if you manage to drop cell as ogryn it's unironically skill issue
>>550701841I always thought judge fit chorus best cuz it has the tone of being more heroic and mentions singing in a few of their lines.Also I want fem judge to bridal carry me and call me a good boy
>>550702909Ogryn has playtesters who actively tell fatshark he is overtuned and should be nerfed STILL. Because he is performing too well in heresy.Yes, heresy.Ogryn is balanced for heresy.
>>550702067thats the swedish modus operandi
havoc was a mistake
>>550703590correct
>>550703191>pretty sure most of the playtesters are still advocating for skullcrusher bonus to get halved.Only thing that shit is going to do to ogryn is completely make both the power maul and slab shield unviable as weapons, and most likely will just make ogryn completely unviable havoc. Only reason why you ever bring ogryn in H40 is skullcrusher spam.God I fucking hate playtesters.
>>550702909Not sure about gold toughness, that could be extremely broken.but I agree on the pox hounds and trapper nets. Arbites can already ignore both pox hounds and mutants as threats, letting ogryn do the same isn't going to break the game.Like say you get netted and after 2-3 seconds ogryn just rips through the net in anger. It'd still be very dangerous ogryn because enemies don't stop hitting you if you are netted, so you can easily die still.For hounds they could easily just implement a thing where if you get dogged you need to spam a button to punch the dog off you.
>>550703590Chaos wastes when? It should be some kind of "underhive expedition" that gets progressively more fucked the further you go and finally makes use of the modular level system they were talking about making at launch that never ended up going anywhere.
>>550703964If they do that, it'll be a repeat of what happened when Havoc dropped. >Make it so that the biggest paypig class on a per player basis no longer can engage in content >Stops playing the game >This has the second order effect of them silently protesting by not buying cosmetics since they are no longer playing >A significant portion of your whales disappearing means the man in China starts twisting your balls >One month later you push out an emergency super buff to the Ogryn you didn't test at all>This leaves everyone who played the Ogryn happy (except Hank who thinks you shouldn't have given in) >Your whales return, and splurge on all your slop for a few minutes >Quietly nerf the shit out of the Ogryn again but no one cares because Havoc sucks If the Expedition thing actually turns out to be Darktide: Chaos Wastes but new maps, and they actually implement additional nerfs before then? All that will definitively prove to us is that the people at Fatshark are the sort who will put their hand on a hot stove and leave there because they think they can wait it out.
>>550703590yeah, hopefully I can get all the penances for it before fatshark finally realizes it too
>>550704729>Penancesy tho. They look like shit, and Hestia will never get another update so it's not like they matter.
>>550701024>looking for a boyfriend>oh hey some applied>one is a neckbeard>the other is an incel with the most retarded look I've ever seen. Broccoli cut + shaved sides. Trenchcoat, but wearing socks and sandals>deny him>he spends the next 15 or 20 days stalking me, spamming DMs and somehow finding out my email>What causes someone to behave in this way.Desperation, my friend. A tale as old as time. The fact that he's an ASS-let should tell you everything. The actual sad part is that some retard will inevitably pity party and possibly even carry this fucker because autistic persistence really does have a non-zero success rate. I'd assume stupidity before malice. He wouldn't do it if there were no chance for it to work.
>>550704623>patch 13 releases>people bitch that ogryn is too OP and has to be nerfed>fatshark nerfs ogryn multiple times>new game mode releases>people realize that ogryn does suck>fatshark buffs ogryn as the 1st thing in 2025>people instantly bitch and start calling for nerfsI hate this fucking cycle. Please make it stop.
>>550705016They should add more penances and more penance cosmetics. Same with the actual commissary as well, add tabs for arbites and hive scum.Oh what the hell, we all know that's never happening.
>>550706364They need to balance around auric, anyone saying ogryns are op is definitely playing no difficulties higher than heresy.
>>550699894>>550699945took 5K plasteel and around 500k ducats
>>550708519500k O-bucks and 5k Plasteel to max mastery on a weapon? I don't know man, maybe playing 10 games is cheaper.
>>550708619When you got 25 mil gold in the bank + 800k plasteel and 400k diamantine, you kinda don't care anymore.
>>550708619it levels in 10games? Highest difficulty I presume?
>>550708925Still seems more expensive than what it is worth.>>550708972You know what I mean.
>>550708619I usually buy as many greens and blues from the store as I am able to for a given weapon and only result to buying in bulk from Brunt if I really need to get something up to a minimum power level to take into snoric snailstrom. I feel like I would get bullied if I took anything sub 400 into an actual mission so I level to 15 or whatever it is to get 400 power and then use missions to finish it up.
>>550709075>Still seems more expensive than what it is worth.It really isn't, since there's fuck all else to spend crafting mats on anyway.
>>550706364>design class to be a stat brick with an impossible to fuck up skill tree>give lots of credence to the overly vocal resident turbo tard who writes retard level guides for retards to easily understand>class becomes literally impossible to fuck up as in the tard difficulties>class is so easy in the tard difficulties that even tards achieve an abnormally high win rate>but actually, care about the tard difficulties so much that game balance is somehow important there>meaning tard class for tard difficulty needs nerfs in tard difficulty because tards overperform>balancing a tanky, low skill floor class for tard difficulty magically makes it useless dogshit in difficulties that require actual sapienceDamn color me fucking surprised.Reminder that the above logic means that scum will continue receiving massive, undeserved buffs in every subsequent patch btw, because tards can't play it, it's really easy to fuck up (the skill tree and gameplay), and there's no resident retard force feeding them an HIVnomicon.
>>550709164You should start inspecting operatives more. It's fucking ghastly. I'm super new and even I am empowering shit beyond necessity where available. Many people just go with what is given to them. I don't think they know how to work the Omnissiah.
>>550709217>there's no resident retard force feeding them an HIVnomiconWhat should I name my new HIVCUM themed youtube channel? I'm going to make millions of views by spreading misinformation until I get popular enough to become a playtester then once I'm inside I will buff ogryn.
>>550709575Hive Tank.
took me an entire game to understand the crowbar has two mods>>550709575my sides
>>550709575It's better you don't take a name from here since people might figure out your intentions.Be stealthy about it.
>>550709575obey my fat
>>550709575>I'm going to make millions of views by spreading misinformation kek I can already see it>TANKIEST HIVE SCUM>FACE TANK AURIC LEVEL DAEMONHOST???>DAEMONHOST KILLED IN 5 SECONDS>MONSTER SLAYER BUILD 2026>it's all just some retarded melee + dependency scum propaganda>monster kills are just dclaw montages, conveniently ignoring that the weapon is kind of shit as a mainstay melee>doesn't even recommend Pickpocket because it would cut into DR nodes>takes DR stimm>this is somehow optimal for malicelet gameplay because it means they can actually survive (kinda sorta sometimes)
>>550701618switch professional and cutthroatprofessional is more fitting as a squad leader
>he's still calling people malicelets>while also holding the opinion that melee scum is baddamn, that's fucking funny
>>550701618Loyal Protector - BodyguardBullrush - BullyPoint Blank Barrage - BrawlerNot sure desu, feels like these could all be interchangable with one another
Thanks to profit oriented unisex bodies in Darktide you will never be swole.You'll always be an otter mode hipster faggot.Thanks for reading this PSA.
>>550711821That's cool but you'll be hard carried by the first ranged scum you meet that can actually find the rending nodes in the skill tree
>>550711821Melee cum is bad.Ogryn alone is a better melee class than scum.
>>550712062>>550712079wow, this thread is really bad at this game
>>550712268>he says, having never touched havocLMAO "melee scum" applying to my 40s? More like DECLINED
>>550712268>points out an objective truth>ur just bad
>make statement about something being good or bad>don't mention if we're talking auric or havoc pugs or havoc premades>anons universally decide to interpret said statement in whatever difficulty best suits their counter-argumentevery single time
>he's so angry about his build being called shit that he makes the second quoteless reply into the void>implying that you need a build to win auricsGod you really a fucking retard
>>550713109I'm talking about a natural law that has existed in /copeg/ for millennia. I have no dog in this race.
>>550713398The natural law is that of the hardstuckie getting unreasonably angry when players with a quantifiably larger e-penis shame the stuckie's e-chode because he can't beat havoc 26 with his super awesome OP melee scum build, which then leads to hours of izzat farming trying to somehow invalidate havoc and call it easy and carried etc. while somehow, mysteriously, inexplicably, not having True Survivor in spite of how easy it supposedly is to get.It always boils down to that. Bad players being mad at being bad.
What's the rundown on all kruber's shield weapons on grail knight? I'm going hammer + virtue of heroism so I wanted a sword, and I've heard the bret S&S was good but I really don't like the moveset. Is it worth using over the regular S&S?
>>550713678Consider the possibility he might be baiting you. This post >>550711821 seems like bait to me.
>>550712040>playing as male
>>550714442Plausibly bait, plausibly genuine. Don't forget that /coopg/ is extremely retarded, extremely bad at video games, and has regular honor tantrums when called bad or wrong, no matter how overwhelming the evidence may be.Havoc genuinely broke some anons by not only exposing their skill issue, but also rubbing their face in it by attaching a number to it that everyone can see by installing a simple mod. If you have that 20 next to your name, everyone knows you're a shitter.
A lot of people truly don't want to hear this, because it puts them on blast and no one likes the spotlight on them in a negative way, but...NA's Hard Filter is Heresy. Half of you braindead morons have no idea what teamwork is and genuinely have Main Character Syndrome in a game that actively punishes this mindset. I will not pick you up. I will not rescue you. I will not GG. I will, in the most petty fashion, play solo until I also die or carry the game to the victory screen. I will walk right up to you, handcuffed and begging, and walk away. Leave my game and uninstall. In Hestia's words: "You will not be missed."
>>550713986no clue. I only use it for bashing. the push attack is decent I guess.
>>550715270Thankfully I don't play on heresy or on the NA servers.
>>550709575The only way you'll succeed is if you somehow also get rid of Hank.
>>550715270>NA's Hard Filter is Heresy.I'm on EU and things are possibly different here already, and I think my perception may be really skewed because the only times I play on difficulties below auric are>when a new class comes outbut I tend to blaze through to damnation within a day or two depending on how much time I have, and then level to 30 on damnation before hitting auric>on uprising when farming Melk assignmentsbut that's usually bright-eyed noobs that make epic voice callouts, literal children that get lost in linear levels, or like-minded penance farmers that just want to get it done ASAP.I've never personally witnessed what malice and heresy players are like. I can't even imagine how bad it could possibly be. All I know is that a lot of people I see in the lower difficulties can't seem to locate their block and/or dodge buttons, and most frequently go down to 2-3 poxwalkers as a result. God forbid a disabler shows up. Bosses tend to wipe them.
>>550715936Bro they shoot poxbursters.
>>550716016So you're one of those retards who watches a burster drop off a ledge and fumble around on the floor for 10 seconds while you stand next to it ready to push instead of shooting and moving on with your life.
>>550708386That's because Fatshark unironically balances the game around Malice. The reason why they released Havok with Ogryn in perhaps the worst place it ever was, was because a group of four of the best players in the game managed to beat a Havok with an all Ogryn team once. That's the actual stated fact and the defense they threw up to try and resist buffing the class for as long as possible. I am pretty certain I know one of the Ogryn's but I can't recall his name. I played a game with him once. I was at one point an extremely good player, and only played Ogryn. Typically sub-50 damage taken 3/4ths of a million damage per game, all the meme circles. I bumped into him on a QP (he was using the tester frame), and absolutely fucking blew me out of the water. Never been more humbled by someone in a video game before.
>he thinks bolt pistol is bad on arbitrator>he thinks shotpistol is good>he thinks melee scum is squishy and can't be brought to havocI'm beginning to realize the most aggressive user of the words "malicelet" and "hardstuck" ITT is, in fact, a massive shitter.It should've been obvious.
>>550716157No, you don't understand. They do not know to push them. They think they MUST shoot the poxburster BEFORE it gets too close. They do not see the error in their ways and actually listen to NPC callouts that are WRONG.
>>550716289Decent bait, not half bad. Deserves a (You) for the effort, but you should work on your format, it's a little too obvious.
>>550716968awww, feeling a little called out are we
it is trueI am "hardstuck" inside your mom at the moment
>>550716016They do that on aurics too lmao>>550716968Fag-coded reply
>>550717490To be fair, even to the guy above, there is a time when shooting poxbursters is fine. But holy shit these guys will forget that the game HAS melee. They just dodge around trying to make gun-kata real.
Hit havoc 38 todayI feel good about myself Thank you for subscribing to my blog =w=
>>550717923plap
All Guns and Ranged Weapons should have a melee shove. Yes, even that one.
>>550717923mating press
>almost wipe in the first ~third of the mission>last two thirds (especially last third) is a breeze6
>>550718179Stop that.
>>550718963I've noticed that a lot of JP and KO players tend to speedrun, go down, then rage quit. Am I alone in this? Or am I just in Outlier City?
>>550719274Sometimes, yeah, Asians seem to run ahead more than every other server (although I hear Ruskies are awful for this too but I don't play on EU as much). This was a havoc 33 run. Had a wipe yesterday where the Veteran, somehow, for some reason, was suddenly quite far ahead while I (Ogryn) was right next to Psyker and Zealot as usual. He didn't get pushed there or whatever, but then it dawned on me that he was using infiltrate. It's what I get for being slack in inspecting for once. Infiltrate alone is such a red flag I would've skipped if I actually bothered to inspect as I do 99% of the time.
>>550712040>Even in Dark Heresy the Veteran can use heavy stubber unlike Darktide
>>550720494What do you mean even shouldn’t that go without saying
>>550717923Who the hell is Yan
Why cant I find 3 stamina curios anymore? Did they get rid of them?
>>550721215Just shit luck.It feels like the only thing I get is stamina curios when I'm looking for a 17% toughness ones.
Sven, when can we get new weapons?
>>550721289I used to find 3 stamina curio on Brunts shop at least once per session. Now I wasted 60k worth of ordo shit only to find three 21% hp curios
>>550721709just wait for the next DLC class
>maelstrom>clandestium>plague ogryn spawns>see one of the zealots has chorus>huh, this will be an easy ledging>doesn't even try to ledge it>other zealot pulls out chorus>also doesn't even try to ledge it>instead both of them get ledged by the same attack>fucking kek>one of them ragequits before he even finishes flying through the air, the other shortly after>third guy joins, gets ledged within half a minute, ragequits too>revolving door #4 and #5 join, stick around for a little longer>nothing is happening so I decide to drop down past the medicae>another monster spawns>the three other retards somehow struggle so hard, as 3 players, to kill a weakened monster, that 2 of them DIE while the last guy realizes that he should probably catch up with the guy that wipes the floor with those>solo the monster in like 10 seconds>the retards have the audacity to complain about me "rushing" when they couldn't handle a weakened monster as 3 of them, that also spawned AFTER I went down, WHILE they were right behind meComplete and total tourist extinction.
>>550721215Keep in mind that +3 isn't ACTUALLY +3 and is only a rounding error unless you get a curio that is 410 power specifically. Otherwise it is indeed a +2 in disguise.Have fun.
>>550721940I don't care for new classes, I want new weapons for the base game
They should buff ogryn by replacing fragbomb with the hive scum boom bringer.
MAULERS might be near...
DLCs with maps and weapons for everyone > DLCs with classes and weapons locked to them
me mum died in the poxxy
>>550718316not that one...
They should buff ogryn by making his melee weapons not blow total donkey dick or add more weapons
>>550723204It would be nice if the dlc class weapons were at least partially distributed around to the other classes. Kinda like how Krub got the BLS for his base classes, but you know across the other classes in darktide.
>>550722835https://wheelofnames.com/t3k-zfk
>hmm today I will use Chorus and play supportively>any time a large squad of bulwarks/crushers show up and I decide to pop it my entire team suddenly goes to timbuktu to deal with singular poxwalkersMan, this game is so unfun sometimes.
>>550723823>he's got this>better take care of the chaffGenuinely what they are thinking.
>>550723823Which difficulty are you getting this on? Sad display of your team/s if this is on havoc (at least not low havoc). If it's non-havoc then yeah no surprise.
>>550723823Go Crusher, keep everything on the floor.
Just got this from Brunt's armory, will it do 0 dmg?
>>550724056>explicitly says 308 damage multiple times>uhh bros does this do 0 damage?!
>>550724056No but it goes in the bin anyway because you managed to get minimum on the only stat besides stopping power that matters on the shotgun (ammo also matters somewhat but it's nowhere near as important).
>>550724056literally nofiguratively yes
Are the cosmetics named after real characters in lore? like is arbites brutus dicksuckus an actual character in the books?
>create male arbites>he's a skinny dude with a big head in what appears to be an armour for femalesWhat's the least awful female personnality?
I think wolfer is very fucking a monster.
>>550722835well, hellgun/hotshot is off the table now since GW's shenanigansPlasma Pistol is highly likely, since it's easy to make.
>>550725612Why not preview them in character creation, anon? Silly question.
>>550725631>it took me 4 operatives to realize wolfer is the heretic in the cage across from you in the prologueI may be a bit rarted.
>>550725612Fatalist is fine but boringMaul is tolerable compared to the male one
me mum’s a daemonhostme pa’s a poxburster buy me stimms
>>550725612Fatalist is really good imo. Great delivery in combat.
>>550725697Because they all read the same lines there, which doesn't help very much.
>>550725596The cosmetics bundles set are named after characters around Atoma and the rest of the universe in the current 42nd millenium by Fatshark
>>550724103what is 0.00x308?
>>550725631How's your wife doing, Mr. Margrave?
>>550725805show hands
>>550724056>>550726523>take gun>shoot enemy with>enemy take damageWOW!! That's SUCH a downright ESOTERIC concept to grasp!!Retard.
>>550723204Both are good though>>550725631That’s not how this works
>>550726523>redundant decimalBurger hours.
>>550726523it's the weapon caliber
>>550726523slam dunk
>>550726523based math knower
Anyone else have this pathing for BLO too? I just really don't give a shit about any of the nodes leading up to it in its cluster.
>>550726329So it's fanfiction?
>>550726154no they don't
>>550727634depends on the build but i usually take a lot more. +15% damage on reload+15% damage on lucky bulletthat's +30% damage you're missing out on. But if you're just going for rumbler crowd control it probably doesn't matter.
>>550725612Here are their combat abilities and basic callouts (which you'll be hearing a lot)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoQ4v-RjlzkMy rankingsFemale; Fatalist B > Authoritarian A > Maul CMale; Maul C > Fatalist B > Authoritarian A
>>550728397>ranged damage on reloadHow much are you even using that though. Typically with BLO and Rumbler you're not reloading much as you fire a shot then swap back; you don't reload on BLO triggering.
>>550728396ok you're right, but still it there's a lot of personality that's missing in the preview that we dont get to hear until we're in mission
>>550728572ty anon
>>550723823>AFK "support" sissy faggot stuns himself casting his dogshit book>Erm, guys, do something?Pick a good ability and solo em all fag
>>550728576Like i said if you're roombling on a generalist build it doesn't matter.But for a proper PBB looger build it's an autopick.
>>550728646yeah but having used fatalist arbiter (male), there's not a whole lot missing..
>>550728891Translation:>please carry me, zealot-sama, I'll hold off the 3 poxers for you
>>550728891Based maliceGOD.
>>550728958yeah but there is a lot missing for other personalities.For example i would never have guessed the timid french psyker had the best FOR THE EMPEROR in the game. It's better to use videos like this for that >>550728572
>>550728930Ah, yeah that's where we differ. I use taunt, not peanut-butter barrage.
>>550727752It's a wargame setting, it's all fanfiction. Anything that's not the rulebooks is just fluff and subject to change at any time.
>>550729179in that case im 100% with you, no reason to spend more points there
>>550728974>No uWe are better than this anon
>>550729563That's my bad I should've mentioned the ability, or just even post the whole tree, which I might do sometime. Still getting a feel for it more in low-mid H30s, I like it overall, but still trying different talents out some days.
>>550729695>weI'm better than you, who doesn't play havoc.
>>550729804it's called havock
>>550727752Kind of? It's more closer sanctioned fanfiction. None of it is inherently lore breaking, since if it was GW would have never okay'd any of this.Obviously it ultimately doens't matter since if GW makes something contradicting Darktide, GW's thing takes priority.
*whips out 40" havcock*get to it, hiv cummers
how do I use smite and not become smigger?
>>550716159>The reason why they released Havok with Ogryn in perhaps the worst place it ever was, was because a group of four of the best players in the game managed to beat a Havok with an all Ogryn team once.This is false. This didnt happen until after Havoc release, and it took them a full day of attempts to get it
>>550730281When there's a fuckdense blob of armor and you don't trust your team to survive it. Or when an objective needs doing and you lucked out and got a teammate that actually bothers to do it. Or when someone went down and you lucked out and got a teammate that actually notices.
>>550730216Okay*gives you HIV*
>>550730281It's something you need to grow out of eventually, but if you must use it, treat it like a grenade. This is what I've always told people as it's the most succinct and accurate way I can put it. In short; use it sparingly.
>>550730429I'm just running out of psyker builds to use so I consider using smite or something
>>550722552anything above 410 is a +3
>>550730281>not become a smiggerdont use it at all, its never fun to have a guy turn the game off. Yes even in those super dense and dangerous situations. Maybe ESPECIALLY in those. Its never fun to think>oh shit 5 maulers 7 crushers, time to gameand then it just all stands still to be killed... i'd rather play normally
These servers are pissing me off
>>550731058Not quite. 410 and above is +3.For your post to be correct it'd be "anything above 400 is a +3"
>>550731145Solar flares
>>550730281If you need smite, you don't deserve smite. The problem smykers are the ones who are using it as a crutch to push up in difficulty and can't handle their shit when forced to actually play.General rules,Smite when a group of ogryn show up. To stall crushers and open bulwarks.Smite when an even larger group of ragers/maulers pile up.For small numbers of elites, a quick smite is all you need. Just shock and toss, then get to killing.Smite to cover a revive or objective.Don't smite the monsters. If you are going to smite poxwalkers you better be able to kill those poxwalkers and not fall behind.
>shield ogryn is the one doing the objective
>>550731373ogryns are the ones that should be doing interrogators and such
>>550731373That's based, catfag. He knows he's the strongest at doing the objective and that none of you homos do it either. So how about you 3 sissies protect him for a change?
>>550731160so 401 is +3?
>>550731717Show us a 401-rated curio. I hope you're not the original guy that was incorrect with misinformation either and trying to save face by being this retarded.
>>550731373Biggest, strongest, and smartest
>>550731814correct i'm nta i'm just asking a fucking question since you seem obsessed with details i was curious about the details
>>550731957Ergo; show us a 401-rated curio. Substantiate your position first, or else you're only proving that you're a baiting cocksucker. We all know the answer already from the start.
>>550732068My position is i don't know how this works. I'm literally asking. I'm not trying to debate you.
What are vets best talents?
>>550731957>you seem obsessed with detailsHe just stated a basic and important fact
>>550732370grenade regen
>>550732370Everything with "toughness" in the text. Disregard everything else.
>>550732319>>550731717curios only come in steps of 10
>Guy joins with open mic>Can hear a smoke detector chirp from him every minute>Plays a black OgrynCan't make this shit up
>>550732384Yes, that's why I assumed he's the right person to ask.
>>550732653Can an American please explain why there are so many ceiling birds and why they constantly chirp
>>550732653This really happened, I was the chirp.
>>550732653https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXQkGSO9kH0>>550732736It's not the birds? What the hell I thought it was the Colombian birds. Reminds me of the rainforests back home. The Burger neighbourhoods are like a rainforest with the amount of low battery smoke alarms.
>>550732589Ah, thank you. That explains it.
>>550732686No, you asked because he's >>550731957>obsessed with details
>>550732736It's proof that they aren't taken care of because they don't chirp if you feed them.
>>550732878figure of speech
>playing psyker>Veteran fucking dies right next to me to some pox walkers>"Don't laugh at the veteran, Beloved."I have never actually noticed this line before, but god damn it make me laugh so hard I swear I almost died too.
>>550731373Maybe GRAB THE FUCKING BATTERY next time instead of fucking around on the other side of the map killing poxwalkers
>>550729191The rules are subject to that too even>>550731216actually canon…
I did it!I am no longer washed up.
>>550732475Would have been nice to get Demolition Team instead of Get Back in the Fight, but rules are rules.
>>550735126Got carried there, uh?
>>550735126carry me
>>550735126wanna carry me from 38 to 40?
>>550735126carry my child
>>550735167You exist to take hits for the rest of the team, so you'd better fucking pray they get the message and kill things.
>>550725723You played prologue every time? I skipped it after the first
>hmm, let's do a couple rolling steel to finish this assignment>finish the mission>mission aborted>try again>mission abortedNUKE SWEDEN
>>550727752It's more like lore accurate fanfiction, by example Cadia exploding is canon but Fatshark can release skin bundle set under "Billy Bobby" name based in the people who fought and survived the event
>>550701887If you take the hits without unleashing a flurry of attacks in a single second to get back all of your toughness, sure. But you can easily just spam M1s on Shiv and slice through nearly everything in a mixed horde while mindlessly dodging.
>>550736038This. All the classes supposed problems are solved by just attacking.
Nice H40 player. Some people really do get lazy on their characters that they didn't get H40 on but still want to play havoc on.
any /acknowledged-in-the-OP/ gamers here?got Outlast Trials in the sale and man this shit is confusing. I think everyone in my lobbies hates me because I don't know what's going on. I think you need to play all the levels solo first to understand them better but that's too scary
>>550735167How do I view my whole tree like this?
>>550729991>It's more closer sanctioned fanfiction. None of it is inherently lore breaking, since if it was GW would have never okay'd any of this.Yeah, like the old expanded lore of Star Wars (before Disney), many writers of novels and comics was allowed to make stuff as long they follow the lore and don't break main events.
>>550736038All of my deaths as melee cum are as follows>poxburster slips through and no one pushes it>get stuck in a corridor and it's on fire>get SICK AIR on a ledgedash and break my legsFuck gas though.
>>550736632>put on 2 health curios>put bomber and flamer resist on them>this never happens againTry it. 17+5% toughness spam is overrated, the class has godmode half the time anyway.
>>550736485I rarely test the waters here with some gunfire reborn posts, and DRG shitposts, but tide games have this place locked down.
>>550701887Desperado is the easiest, rampage is the most fun, stim supply is kind of weird but near 100% uptime of high viscosity stims is really nice
>>550736632The poxburster alone won't kill you, but they do hurt quite a bit, yeah. Both it and the fire could be potentially addressed with health curios, like the other anon said. But those are fairly specific things that don't happen terribly often. That said, I do tend to avoid bursters around teammates because I've had them blown up in my face by trigger-happy retards so many god damn times.Also,>sick air on a ledgedash and break my legs>he didn't upgrade his legspic related
>>550737149>but near 100% uptime of high viscosity stimsCrate doesn't work like that. It only gives you the stimm effect if it consumes your stimm. You can't chain it.
>>550736539https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editorand some cut and paste for posting
>>550736539I'm pretty sure that's a screencap from the online build editor.
>>550736759I haven't played Gunfire in a while. I heard they added a bunch of seasonal stuff and left it all in the game so that people could pick and choose which season effects they wanted to play with. Pretty based if true.
>>550737502>>550737586Cool, this is my treeJust reached level 30 on Veteran
>>550736485>played a perfect trial where I never even got seen let alone hit>A-suck me off
>>550701296because people kept leaving the team, this was supposed to be their Baldur's Gate 3 moment - they even took a controlling interest level of funding from a notorious publisher to make it happen - and it was probably discussed internally as such just before it took a long jump off a short pier and launched to (deservedly) shit reviews and bottomed out on player count almost instantlythe people left from the original team are probably exclusively senior level managers who've finally weaseled their way into "ideas guy" roles and other junior/artistic talent that can't get work elsewhere easilywe haven't seen the first ghost of a novel mechanic since launch, btw. even heat is just a rework of the peril system.
>>550738493>bleed node>no field improv>no rending>no toughness>no keystoneOh no no NO
Sweden!
>>550736485Yea I've been playing it a bit but I mostly play with some friends I've done like 1 invasion as a solo which was alright. Just think of it as a big game of hide and seek tag and it won't feel as scary.
>>550736485>do group find>matched with some dude who doesn't know he's the group leader>matched with a bunch of AFK guys standing around the sleep room>matched with xaxaxa blyat (removed from group)just make some proper matchmaking that starts in the trial jesus christ
>get in havoc match>very first bunch of enemies>barrel that teammate shoots sends me flying past a number of walls, columns, and I instantly die for itHonestly close to uninstalling DT. I don't get how they still haven't fixed their physics engine for the game. How does an explosion (or push from a monster) that's on the same level as you send you flying UPwards and coincidentally over every obstacle and piece of terrain. It's even worse as Ogryn (as I am) as you get flung the exact same way as humans, as if suddenly you have 5% of the mass an Ogryn should. These explosions do next to nothing to enemies, but an Ogryn? Yeah you get sent flying ~8 meters into the air and flung like ~30 meters away.
>>550739960>playing havocGames are for fun.
>>550739960You've been aware of what barrels do when they blow up for quite some time now, maybe it's time to examine whether it might be your fault for standing next to them. If you don't trust your teammates, shoot the barrels first before you go anywhere near them.
>>550740109Sadly Aurics are really bad. They're a mix of being individually easy, but the players are really bad, and I don't so much mean sub-optimal weapons or talents, more their incredibly selfish attitude and splitting off so much just to soak all ammo (very inefficiently too) and get dogged/netted/downed anyway. Sadly Havoc is where players generally stick together and have some common understanding and goal in mind.>>550740221Sadly, anon that clearly did not read the post (very common on here I know), monster pushes do the same.
>>550740221No actually it's unfair. I should be immune to this danger. It would make the game more fun. I should also be able to unnet myself and get rid of dogs as an Ogryn, baseline, because the game would be way more fun if I was never in any danger and didn't have to do anything to achieve that
>>550738493Switch aura to the left one and you're fine
>>550740324I will give you poxbursters and captain kicks, being sent flying by plague ogryns, chaos spawn and beasts of nurgle is 100% on you.
>>550740324>monster pushes do the same.This, and there's literally no way to prevent a monster from ledging you
>>550740386It is funny playing TWhammer and then Dorktide and seeing how one (1) hound can permapin an Ogryn. Yeah imagine if TW hounds could perma-fuck monstrous infantry like that. Ogryn was a mistake as Fatshark can not design them for shit.>mechanically same as humies except...their dodges can push over poxxies!Wowie great work Swedes!
>>550735126Very next game with the same team on Vigil Station. Thank the Tide Gods.I can finally truely play this game.
>>550740550>Parries the monsterNo ledging for me today.
>>550740764True CVRRIED Chad
>one guy hits h40 and gets true survivor and has fun>the other guy whines about static barrels, presumably on h20, and says hes gonna uninstallthe duality of /coopg/
>>550741207You can't prove that guy had fun.
>>550741207>get called out for inability to read>goes silent for a while just to then shitpost without replying to any post while referring to posts
>>550741321you're whining about static barrels and boss knockback my bad dude
>>550741448Which is legitimate criticism as it's all done very poorly and lazily, as per Fatshark (or more-so, Swededev) quality. Even much worse when it's on an Ogryn. All of which has been detailed already as again, post after post, prove you can't read for shit.
>>550741518not really you just have 0 awareness. Its not always everyone elses fault you know
>>550741586Objectively speaking, it is done poorly, see: >>550739960>...you get sent flying ~8 meters into the air and flung like ~30 meters away.Two objects on level ground to eachother, and one somehow magically gets send upwards of 8 meters. You sound just like the izzat ragebaiter yet again. Every episode is around this time each day we get this shit too. Which country has its prime-time currently?
Should I buy look outside? Looks pretty cool
>>550741763>timeLondon time-zone is 7PM for them. And keeping in mind most of them are Indian and Indian-adjacent these days as well.
How hard did you pog when this came out?https://youtu.be/x-DtwQUCWx4?si=5jx654-0JacuLEb_
>>550736485Most people don’t know what’s going on anon. If you’re playing with randoms this is the case like 95 percent of the time. Every now and then you’ll get someone who’s played all the trials and knows exactly what to do but you’ll likely be running around for the foreseeable future. >>550739859Yeah this is the most annoying thing by far what the fuck were they thinking with that
>wamt havoc>Also want to slumber a cucumbersleepy, but i must game...
>finally unlock relic blade>zealot is still shitLMAO
>>550743731Skill issue
>>550743731Depends what you want out of your character. If you want some backstab meme shit then you use something else.
>>550740764>finished several dozen H40s>didn't go down for the majority of them>no True Survivor titleI'm mildly jelly.
>>550743731you're supposed to use the eviscerator, silly
>>550744125oh ok i'll do thatjust came off the back of doing melee psyker and ogryn and for some reason i feel like this class particularly just isn't doing what those ones do
>>550743731>veteran's power sword>activate it to instantly cleave through anything and also kill crushers in a single push attack combo, as well as do great boss damage>zealot's power sword>activate it to kill trash better>that's it>also you can sprint and stab a crusher for a one hit kill if you use fury, but ONLY if you use fury, okay? loljust in case you ever needed confirmation that vet is catered to and fatshark doesn't care for zealot
>>550744573vet is ridiculous too yeah
>>550744125Even Martyrdom Eviscerator is still pretty underwhelming considering you're playing at like 50 HP. It's good, but it's nothing crazy. HIV Cum is still way better. Arbites is probably about as strong while being way safer. A Vet with a Powersword and no melee upgrades will still kill elites before a Martyr+Evi Zealot. A Melee Psyker is faster and does more damage. All Zealot really has going for it is its tankiness in melee, which is valuable. The class isn't bad, but it doesn't have the same damage potential as other classes in a lot of cases.>>550744485Zealot has worse damage output than melee Psyker, but it is tankier.
>>550744485Zealot's strengths are mostly in survivability and support. Most of the class' damage has become dedicated boss nuking, and there isn't all that much left in terms of raw DPS unless you go martyrdom.Being a melee class with middling damage makes it pretty miserable to play in aurics because everyone will just steal your kills and you won't be able to do much, especially now with scum zooming around and killing everything before you can even get in range. If you want it to feel good, run FotF and martyrdom. Otherwise, at the moment, zealot only truly feels good when everyone is fucking dead and you're practically invincible and have all of the crutches. Then you feel like a god.
>>550744058It has been mostly the same for me. I know you can find a good team and get your title.
Curious about the Trample talent on ogryn's charge.It says you get 50% base damage in total if you stagger enough enemies. But what does that "base damage" actually buff?Like does it effect all damage? Both melee and ranged? Even DoTs?I'm just asking since Kuli's guide doesn't specify as to what it applies to.
Been gone for a hot minute, used to play psyker with fire staff and dueling sword for armor. I've seen that there has been some rebalancing, is dueling sword still a decent option for maulers/crushers/etc. of has its armor pen been fucked? Asking because I had JUST gotten a perfect rolled one and knowing my luck it'll hit like a noodle now lol.
>>550745303>Play zealot>Getting shot>Work my way towards the shooters while getting toughness from chaff Do (You) the vet shoot the stuff I'm currently killing for toughness, or the stuff shooting me? This test is worth 40% of your grade.
>>550738650you’re so skilled anon… *sucks you off*
>Try SM2 again>Get bored out of my mind and just come back to DarktideWhy is this game so much better bros?
I honestly havent touched havoc since I unlocked all the cosmetics from it
>>550747613SM2 has basically no longevity in it, anon. Darktide (even though it's tiny playerbase is still dwindling) has more longevity just by design.>>550747684H25? That's a good time to stop as it's just unfun from there. Game is so buggy and broken and higher ranks just show more of it.
>>550747613Darktide flows better. SM2 restricts itself into the "see colored flash; press appropriate button" pit. Darktide gives you more freedom, has more going on in a single moment, and allows for more proactive solutions to problems while SM2 forces you into reactivity all the time. But I haven't played SM2 nearly as much and am not nearly as good at it, so maybe I'm not (entirely) correct in my assessment.
>>550747613SM2 is a good cinematic story experience played with a friend or two. Co-op mode is okay, but those co-op missions should just have been small story DLCs. PvP is okay for a few fights but gets boring fast.The one thing about SM2 though is I wish I could play Darktide in SM2's levels, it looks beautiful.
>magdumping the bolter into a group of maulers, ragers, and crushers and seeing the whole hallway clear
>>550748710>magdumping the bolter
>>550747613Darktide is a better game unironically. The gameplay and combat it has is one of the best on the market currently.
>>550747613SM2 is anti-fun incarnate. It’s a shame because the spectacle is impressive and it’s arguably the best attempt at bringing the 40k setting to life to date but we’re playing a game, not watching a movie, so that’s undermined by the subpar gameplay.
>>550748878did i stutter?
>>550748878It's how 99% of shitt-I mean darktide players use it. Also ensure it's mk.2b
>knifevetnigger>die>leave
>>550720494Catachads are just built different
>>550749153>Also ensure it's mk.2bThere's a second bolter mark now?
>>550749416Yeah, mk.3
>>550748878Bolter goes brrrrrrttt
>>550749502Hopped on my Vet to try it out. Is the new mark really just less damage and less ammo for abysmal AOE damage? Did I miss anything, or what the fuck goes on in their heads over at Fatshark?
>>550749820>Is the new mark really just less damage and less ammo for abysmal AOE damage?Yes.>Did I miss anythingNo.>or what the fuck goes on in their heads over at Fatshark?The devs are retarded and vast majority of them are hard stuck at malice/heresy alongside majority of the playerbase.I wish I was joking.
>>550748983imagine if dt had sm2 parry gameplay
>>550749224Bravo for being a shitter I guess?
>>550750074Sad>>550750161Please shoot me if that ever happens. Weapons like DClaw with parries built into them are fine, but holy fuck is SM2's combat obnoxious with any density.
>>550750161>>550750237If I was a developer for SM2 I'd try mimicking the Darktide toughness system for armor gain.Like say melee attacks and kills restore armor for you. And you can do stuff like gun strikes and parries and they do restore big chunks of armor, but as an added bonus you get an opening on tougher enemy, like staggering a carnifex.
>>550747613The "Press X to awesome" is integral to the gameplay and kind of just slows down the pace of the game, plus seeing the same animations over and over and over just gets boring though they are admittedly pretty cool the first few times
>>550750691And the fact that such events have slow-down too which makes it even more lame.
>>550748983The prestige systems is also one of the worst i've seen in a game. Having to start from zero everytime just isn't fun man
>>550749820The Bolt Pistol version is nice for Hive Scum. Explosion gives it a solid horde clear, direct shots still good for elites, high control, no ammo worries for scummers.Also mildly acceptable for Weapon Specialist vet for a stronger control pairing for its melee weapon to keep rotating a shot in with
"Heh, yeah you have infinite ammo" gets trapped by a net "but what you failed to consider is" gets shot 800 times due to no lingering dodge "that im actually" a single shock mine staggers a horde that the ogryn was locking down while the arbites does something else "still an ogryn" gets stuck mantling a ledge
>>550750626You're supposed to be stunlocked out of your heal window and like it.
>>550747545Duelling Sword is still great, good for armour, good for mobility. Lost its special poke for stopping crushers/mutants, gained parry instead. But Greatsword has taken over for the general use psyker weapon, good horde clear, good armour, high utility (and fun) of its special attack.
>>550751515It's rough being an ogryn main.
>>550751667I've been considering going back to a different class for havoc over Ogryn. I still kind-of like Ogryn (has a bunch of good and interesting choices), and the main saving grace is that I nearly always get immediately accepted into havoc lobbies. Where-as Zealot is not as reliable as getting accepted and I think it's because I'm not martyrdom (like 90% of zealots are). Have yet to try high havocs as Arbitrator, so dunno how sought after they are.
>>550751614Aces, thanks anon. Looks like I'll pick one up to try out and level mastery.
>>550751614>fgs special>utilityHow?
>>550751882Ogryn does work in havocat least for now, but you do best in a team that 100% supports you since ogryn is kinda unique as a class in that he is at his most useful and most powerful when the team stays close to him.It's kinda sad to say, but you need to get lucky getting a good team when playing ogryn.
>>550752819I'm inclined to agree. I'm not so good at the game where I'm able to identify every fuck-up or who slipped up the most or whatever, but I feel as if I need to be the luckiest for teams with Ogryn, and then he really pays back for the team and more. As in, the games are the most extreme when I play as him (highest highs, lowest lows). Either build, both taunt, but one is feel no pain with slab shield, and other is BLO rumbler. I do want to try a build where I go BLO rumbler but swap the pmaul for slab shield and I really like the attention seeker + brutish strength combination. But again, you need a good team for it because there's not much point taunting everything permanently if your team is sucking eachother off.Or I just need a break from Ogryn despite wanting to play it more and get better.
>>550751162it's also good because Lethal Proximity also buffs the rocket launcher's explosion radius
>>550751162I dunno, anon. I haven't tried the bolt pistol version. Maybe if it has like 3-5x the AOE damage as the bolter it won't be terrible, but you'd fucking shock me if you told me that's the case. Anyway, Scum doesn't have an issue with horde clear on ranged or melee. Maybe it's good for box build though. I don't play that.
>>550746285Base damage applies to all sources of damage. But it's not an increase of overall damage, it's an increase to the base damage without other multipliers (like Finesse, armour type, the First Target stat of a weapon, other assorted damage boosts, etc.). It's good, but it's usually not as much actual damage boost as listed, and how good it is depends on the weapon. It's sort of the counterpart to Weakspot Damage.The base damage of a weapon is generally the same as its unarmoured damage.
>>550753328If you need a break from ogryn try zealot or arbites.
>>550751162You can do a lethal proximity grenadier build as guardsman. It's really fun.
>>550753328Oh another small thing with the shield is I can tank bosses (particularly twins and captains) better. I nigh-never deploy the shield, but it has much better blocking than pmaul where I don't ever take damage but block only when taking a hit, and then attack otherwise. I have just been missing the shield despite the pmaul being a solid weapon. Just indecisive about it.>>550753580Yeah both of those I like the most outside of Ogryn. My Zealot is seemingly good (piety chorus rblade primary-attack-based flamer), it feels like it does well but I think a lot of hosts don't like/want non-martyrdom zealots. Quite a lot of them try for anti-boss setups too it seems. And my Arbitrator I need to practice more on I think, I haven't even tried H30s on Arbitrator, just mid/high 20s. I was still using shock collar and shotpistol for example. Have now swapped to shock mine and mk3 exterminator however. How good are the Arbites grenades? For no good reason I prefer these over the mines, but I think I need to use the mines when playing with randoms (I'm almost never playing havoc with friends, and when I do it's just 1 of them, never 4-man premade).
>>550753548Ok, that makes sense.So for example slab shield does 297 damage on Heavy1, and if I understand this right, Trample should buff that 297 by 50%?So it should come out as 297*1.5=445.5And since you said it effects all sources of damage it should apply to bleed stacks as well.Might try this on a build sometime, to see how much effect it has.
It's over guys, Mister E said vulture's mark sucks
>>550754084i only trust tranner because he is usually right and he also looks like he'd suck my dick if i let him
the way to recognize a good ganger is simple, does he have pickpocket? if not = giga trash, imagine not taking the single strongest node of any talent tree ever
>>550755003That's been my default when it comes to filtering havoc lobbies too.
>>550754084>toughness battery for team>all attack immunity>damage, CHC, and mobilityVulture's Mark is pretty good. If you take Chem Dependency, yes, you get a bit more crit and a ton of CDR and can pop Despascito more, but in between ability presses, you're more vulnerable and will have a harder time handling ranged packs. Both keystones are good for Desperado. I prefer Vulture's for the ability to continue ignoring ranged attacks while waiting on my CDR.>>550755003It's not needed in Aurics at all for melee, and you have to pay a tax to get to it. The aura alone is plenty. In Havocs, you're correct though.
>>550755835I take this node. Dunno if it's 'worth' it. Always like some corruption resist though.
>>550755913>It's not needed in Aurics at all for meleeWith the exception of melee maelstroms*I do swap over for it every time for those. You'd be crazy not to.
>be me>be out of ammo>kill gunner>he doesn't drop ammoEven N64 games figured this one out, fartshart.
>>550752191Nothing too big, but it's nice to have options if you're forced into melee outside a melee build.Peril generation while in melee.Without a charge the sword portion is still an enhanced force attack, giving it more Strength, and can interrupt lesser elites. The ranged portion will still interrupt ranged and specials in a pinch. And of course with the charge a nice extended extra lesser elite and trash clear with the special attack, helps to clear out stuff hiding behind bulwarks/crushers.
>>550741763I dont care what your understanding of physics is, it's a fun game mechanic and I dont care if youre too shit to play around it>youre disagreeing with me and can defend your reasoning, it must be izzat!this term really died in the crib
>>550756647>mf every time someone uses that word
Bolt pistol, explosive proximity, and the rocket launcher is fun with desperado stance on ganger. Is it good? Don't care
>>550741763even if physics should matter (not necessarily), Ogryn center of mass is clearly not at barrel height. It actually makes a lot of sense they fly in a high arc
>>550741763also you're a bit too ESL and too uneducated about physics to throw out the term izzat bro
>>550747613>play SM2 on release with friend>both liked the first ones horde mode >2 mags from bolter to drop a warrior>pick up melta >doesnt disintegrate every nid in front me of me. Just kinda staggers themThe first one was unironically better.
How do you manage to do the Cliffhanger penance on psyker?Like it just says "push 7 enemies off an edge within 2 seconds" but I've forever stayed at 5/7 with it.Do you need to use Venting Shriek for it?
>>550760163I agree. SM2's combat just doesn't feel rewarding. Damage feels too low and not like a spess mahreen. Even though it has more weapons than the first one, many just suck. The leveling is also just fuck awful even especially with how prestige-ing works.
>>550760982I remember getting this when it was (I think) 20 enemies. And yeah just shriek a bunch of trash off a ledge.
>>550761139You're supposed to grind one pair of weapons for several hours until they're maxed. Then you can still tickle things with the bolt weapons on mid-level difficulties.; ))))))
>>550760982The newest map is great for this just stand in the middle of one of the narrow walk ways and shriek when you're surrounded by goons and you should get it.
>>550760163>>550761139Them removing the ability to regain health if you dealt damage quickly enough unironically removed the flow of the first game which was like its best quality. Now all that’s left is parry slop.
>>550761275>>550761463Thank you, good to know.
>>550760982It's been a while since I did it, but pretty it was venting shriek + the mission where you are doing some data machines at the end in a water purifying plant or the tree level and shoving dudes off the pipes. You could do it on the mobian steel map at the start pretty easily too provided the party doesn't kill anyone with barrels.
>>550725676Why would gw veto hellguns? They're an actual weapon in lore that guardsmen use
>>550761387I know, but grey and green weapons just feel wrong after you hit orange with anything.>>550761506It's almost impressive how quickly the parry system went from fun to boring.
>>550761972WHERE ARE THE MELTAGUNS, FUCKLEY?GW are definitely not allowing these things because of either1) IP Protection2) No Trust3) A little of point 1 and a little of point 2
>>550762173Uh buddy are you sure you didn't mean >>550761854 ?
>>550762391I did. How did that happen? Oh well. I'm yelling at both of you, now.
>>550761854>Why would gw veto hellguns?Probably because our guardsmen characters aren't stormtroopers and are just regular bozo guardsmen.It's GW, they incoherent and retarded.
>>550762173You could maybe make an argument for them not allowing hellguns because not stormtroopers, but I refuse to believe they care that much about meltas.
>>550762696We already have zealots with flamethrowers. I wouldn't be surprised GW is holding back Meltas because no Sororitas, which is more of a stylistic choice than an IP choice.
I just want the 2 handed chainaxe/halberd added into the game already.It'd be fucking cool on zealot.
if the barrels weren't in the game, would the game be better or worse?with the understanding that they are fucking everywhere, they don't help and only hinder, and are effectively landmines on every map, every 3 meterseven the dopiest most brainless fuck would shoot a barrel once to kill some trash and think 'oh how vaguely amusing' and after that even that total fuckwit would be bored of the concept
>>550762539>>550762173my schizo theory is that they're not doing meltaguns because they plan to add a tempestus scion class that will use them. Same with hotshot las and LMGs. Even if we never get that class it might be them keeping the option open
>>550762972Your post reeks of skill issues.
>>550762972Much better. As much as I do feel some satisfaction from sometimes shooting a barrel and it kills a burster, or pushes some poxwalkers away, it's not worth it. While they're at it, fix the push physics of the game.>swedes>fixing
>>550762972>they don't help and only hinderI don't think this is true, I've literally gotten out of stuck situations by catapulting myself out with a barrel. They stagger bosses and elites too which can sometimes actually be clutch as fuck. I think they're fine and they only annoy me when a fire barrel gets popped in the way so you have to awkwardly bunnyhop over itAlso it's the sole way to grief people I don't like. I admit I'm that petty
>>550762946>on zealot.Anon..I may have bad news...
>>550763015Honestly better than any theory involving Sisters of Battle. We're rejects, start fighting like one.
>>550762521Fair enough, I think GW is overly blamed by the community because it's not shit talking the devs of the game. The only solid proof I have seen of GW actively interfering with things is that in Rogue Trader they don't let you romance the sister of battle. Vet has a plasma gun, so melta should be okay too as guardsman squads can take a flamer, plas, melta, or a grenade launcher. So there should be a canon reason for it. Personally I think either Fatshark is sitting on meltas or doesn't know how they want to implement it into the game as it would have to be similar to meltas in SM2 and be a high damage shotgun with low ammo and that would make most shotguns pointless in the game. Hellguns hit a similar conundrum for me even though they are used by Scions and Kasrkins which are better than us rejects, but really the high power lasgun with again maybe a low ammo count might be harder for them to do considering how boltguns have a fair bit of ammo and vets regen ammo
>>550762937Issue is that meltaguns are extensively used by all Imperial armies/factions.Even regular guardsmen can use meltaguns, the current regular Cadian Shocktroop kit literally comes with a meltagun.Meaning our guardsmen can and should be able to use it just fine. The likeliest reason why we haven't gotten it is just that Fatshark is saving that and many of the other cool weapons for "rainy days", ie. the game starts to fall in popularity so they add in a cool weapon people have asked since the launch.
>>550762972they are funny so they should stay
>>550763263That's a chainglaive, which is an entirely different weapon and totally not a chainaxe at all.I still want it on zealot though, hive cum can have it as a treat.
>>550763425>the game starts to fall in popularityIt has been for years, anon. It has been "raining"(snowing) for a very long time now!
>>550762972They help me nuke my health safely. t. Martyr Zealot
>>550763410Still mad about Argenta
>>550763658Well it's a polearm you asked for one, no?
>>550763945Reminder that Sisters of Battle are not chaste, just good luck ever impressing one.
>>550762972this is like asking for goombas to be removed from super mario
>>550764268based nintendiewhat a stupid comparison
>>550763410>The only solid proof I have seen of GW actively interfering with thingsThere was a case in VT2, they didn't want the zealot subclass to have any non-tabletop weapons and fatshark had to fight to allow flail&shield.
>>550763425I am convinced their upper management is just awful, bordering on non-functional. Fatshark has around 180 employees, the game was released in a non-functional state, it took 2 years for crafting update when they had a good system for vermintide that they chose to abandon, and we're at whatever this is at year 3. About 3 maps a year, very few weapons added to the game, 1 boss + the repurposed twins added later, whatever havoc and mortis trials count as, 2 DLC classes, and a lot of cosmetic clipping errors fixed. I like the game, but holy fuck their rate of content release is just goofy.
>>550763015>>550763410If they’re really going to go down that route of adding another redundant Veteran class i at least hope it’s Kasrkin. It’s beyond our current levels but it would at least allow for greater freedom in just about anything. We could finally have jump packs and all the high tech Auspex arrays that they get.
>>550764015Was that supposed to be a surprise? How are you supposed to be able to romance one in the game if they're chaste by doctrine? Just because they don't take vows of celibacy doesn't mean they automatically slut around. Kibellah a best girl anyway. How can you say you love her if you won't even let her sew your eyes shut?
>>550764451dont think jump packs would ever happen, it would break many maps and require them to go over all the invisible walls and shit, which are currently incredibly broken and spottyt. barrel powered out-of-bounds expedition enjoyer
>>550764410I'm retarded, I clearly meant WP not zealot.
>>550736759last I played gunfire reborn was for the recent character dlcthen got my achievements back to 100% and haven't touched it yetalso here is my tier list of most sexyLyn > Nona > Yoyo > Tao > Li
>>550764501As a tertiary I feel it is somewhat a duty of mine to inform other tertiaries of myths and to dispel them before misinformation is spread.
>>550764410I was not aware. Thank you.>>550764451Kasrkin is specifically a special Cadian only elite unit, so I don't think they would commit to it even though Kasrkin have a unique Kill Team like Arbites do.
>>550764584We need suicide nets or invisible walls that actually kill you. I've been stuck in Hab Dreyko too many times after a bad barrel knocking me into previously moved though zones with locked doors.
>>550764451Jump packs are something that'll definetly not be happening for Darktide.As cool as that would be, the biggest issue is that none of the maps in this game are designed with jump pack style abilities in mind.The 2 only solutions fatshark would have are;>rework EVERY SINGLE MAP in the game, which even if Fatshark wasn't notoriously lazy, would still be unrealistic to expect them to door>make a shitty neutered jump pack that barely makes you hover, which at that point you just question was the addition of the jump pack even good idea if the execution is going to be so bad
>>550765194Alternatively, a jump pack map which is the only map with jump packs.
just as a small reminder darktide has been following dark heresy careers mostly. The only exception to this is ogryn which was probably conceptualized late into the dev cycle because none of the design surrounding it fits seamlessly into the game pic related, if you wanna go by this logic there aren't many careers left uncovered
>>550764626Ah, fair enough then.
>>550765307Pls no. Gimmick maps are almost always shit
>>550766098It will also cost 5 dollars.
>>550765307>Alternatively, a jump pack map which is the only map with jump packs.>ogryn with a jump pack flying aroundKino
>WITHOUT WARNING>WITHOUT MERCY>WITHOUT END>THE RED WAKE DESCENDS
>>550765332>waiting for sisters of battle>we get battle sisters firstFucking fatshark.
>>550764626You’re very cool for that. If only more people practiced the same….
>>550766394MANTIS WARRIORS! COME OUT AND PLAAAAAAAAAaaAAaAAYyYYYAY.
>>550751614Got one from sour milk and gave it a whirl, feels pretty good to use. Difference between the marks seems to be 6 gives you a tighter cleave light with a better single target heavy while the 8 gives a wider light cleave and weaker cleave heavy. I've gotten my mastery up with an 8 and it felt ok, time to give the 6 some laps. As an aside, those plasma gunners are cunts lol.
>>550766435I read the description and I still don't get it. SoB just seems more RP oriented with faith abilities, but the BS still get SoB gear, so they're presumably just SoB without RP?
>>550766394>>550766721ermmmmm, kino alert???
FATSHARK GIVE ME POWER SWORD ON ZEALOTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>550767259Isn't relic blade just power sword but better?
How necessary is it to make like hyper competent builds to do well in Heresy?(I'm like lvl 25 and playing with 20~ friends. The difficulty below heresy is kinda brain dead).Been wanting to mess with other stuff, but I feel like if Im not doing some crazy output we crash pretty hard. Are weapons also typically talent / combo reliant? Or can you just throw shit on and get decent results? Been looking at relic blade and flamethrower but don't wanna like lose all my output swapping to something that isn't hyper geared to my talents.
>>550747613Literally me a week ago. The execution/DOOM playstyle just doesn't flow well in a horde game. Not to mention the game's control sucks absolute ass on M&K
>next class is "cryptic"so this refers to binharic no? broker was pretty obviously scum cause of the drug dealer association
>>550767374In terms of lore? I don't know.In terms of gameplay? No, the charge and heat mechanics operate fairly differently and allow for differing weapon damage (more frequent special interaction = greater damage potential while remaining "balanced". Whether that plays out in reality is another matter). Also, one is two-handed and one is one-handed.
>>550767374PSword is stronger but I overall kinda prefer RBlade. The charge mechanic is much more enjoyable to use even though it's weaker. Could be because on beta/release I used the PSword so much that I'm sick of activate>swing spam.
>>550767374it's actually power sword but worse. It just has mildly less special button pressing.
>>550767527>How necessary is it to make like hyper competent builds to do well in Heresy?Not at all, until havoc anything goes so long as you know your fundamentals. Aurics can be overwhelming mathematically if your build really really sucks, that's it. So long as you're good with the weapons you use and play attentively you don't need to minmax
>>550767527Not at all. "Hyper-competitive" builds are only a must in high Havoc, and even then you can play around a bit if you're good enough and know what's needed for the difficulty. In Heresy? Don't even fucking worry about it. Just don't be completely retarded with your build.>Are weapons also typically talent / combo reliantKinda. It depends, honestly. In your case, Relic Blade + Flamer is a fine combo. You just wanna make sure you bring throwing knives for specials.
The next class is Rogue trader.
>>550767545It's just another psyker class.Psykers are pretty cryptic too.
>>550702101vermintide events are red dust and like 6 free cosmetic setsdarktide events are literally just the red dust, and twice a year you also get 500 aquilas (equivalent to... a third of a helmet. lmao)
>>550767795Alrighty cool>>550767718What are fundamentals?Like swing on chaff, don't get pinned by big shit, and revive your allies?
>>550768013>helmetPrices vary. Some are even 400.
>>550768013Uhh darksister? Where's our free 6 cosmetics?
>>550767527Hard to say without specifics. What item level are your weapons at? A big issue I've had in heresy is people just don't upgrade their gear. Especially with the DLC classes. You can always supplement skill with meta knowledge. It's in the OP, but https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds?sort=relevant has builds that you can copy and should vastly improve everyone's capabilities for a minor time investment. A big thing about this game is that melee is mandatory and blocking and shoving has to happen
>500 aquilasAh yes, a fucking helmet or trinket
me? I got true survivor and h40 is first season so now I can pretend that I got it now with my shiny titles while not stepping into havocs at alltry to not be too jelly
>>550768074>fundamentalsThings like:>Dodging (both melee attacks and ranged)>Blocking>Pushing>Using good swing patterns on weapons>Positioning>Boss handling>Threat priority
>>550768074>What are fundamentals?>Like swing on chaff, don't get pinned by big shit, and revive your allies?Stuff like that yeah. The biggest one in tide games is usually target priority in general, and obviously there's also just mechanical skill as in knowing how to fight a horde with ragers in it without taking damage. You just learn all those things by doing, it's not really possible to take shortcuts here anyway
>>550767545Well we're not getting a Necron Cryptek, so the choices areAd Mech; Tech Priest or Skitarii. Most likely.Eldar; Corsair or possibly clown. Unlikely but would get them the elf money.Or something dumberInquisitorial Sage; Play the accountant or librarian given a gun and told not die. Good luck.Outlander Shaman/Beastmaster; Lowest effort, Scum but with pet instead of drugs.
>>550768013average darkturd even is ordo dicks and one frame/insignia as "unique reward"
Alright. Who hear actually uses the chain sword? I haven't touched this thing since they removed its ability to stagger Crushers. What do I run on it? Rampage and Shred? Rampage and Bloodletter?
>>550768516>>550768567Also shit like>understanding the UI (red bad)>knowing when to use medpacks and ammo packs>USING STIMMS CORRECTLY>coherency: how it affects You!>if you evade off an elevated ledge you kinda yeet yourself, this is useful for escaping fire and tox gas>Rending. Brittleness. Bleed. Fire. What They Do!All of this will help you 'survive' heresy.
>>550768074>Like swing on chaff, don't get pinned by big shit, and revive your allies?The biggest one is mastering dodging/blocking/not taking damage from most sources. You need to instinctively press space when you hear that woosh of an incoming hit. Then knowing what to prioritize. Taking out specials before they become a threat, recognizing all 4 of you don't need to be on the boss, tagging incoming targets like crushers. And simply being good enough with your weapons you can hold your own against a basic horde with no help. Lastly it's important to recognize what talent nodes are total shit/noob traps. If you can manage all that you can easily handle damnation. Advancing to auric will take a lot more practice.
>>550768654I really can't see the elf, rather that would make the story become comedy with "each new arrival makes this warband look more like a circus" with rannick deeply sighing and morrow doing a facepalm
>>550768654>Outlander Shaman/Beastmaster; Lowest effort, Scum but with pet instead of drugs.Seeing how both Arbites and Scum are made from reused concepts and ideas, I can see this happening.It'd just be taking the cyber-mastiff from arbites, tweaking it and then adding it to hive scum esque character.
So i haven't played this game in like 2 years. Never really gave psyker a chance. Any good staff build that I can have fun with? Also what is the dump stat for staves since they don't have mobility?
>500 aquilaslollmao even
>>550766750Basically the inquisitors handbook version was a fairly barebones implementation and blood of martyrs added a bunch of specialization.They're technically separate classes because backporting the changes would be more work.
>>550768654I don't see Eldar as ever happening even with the Eldar ship tracking the Morningstar in that Mortis Trials bit. Harlequin are rare and a big deal, so that's a hard no. But a Corsair is also rare like all the elves are and we just aren't at that kind of threat that the Eldar would deign to work together with the Imperium yet. Exotic xenos weaponry, maybe. Although it does just feel like how Dan Abnett normally writes his 40k stuff with multiple actors in the wings. Honestly we could get both a low level Tech Priest and a Skitarii. Skitarii could easily have 3 different combat trees with regular Skitarii, Ruststalkers, and Secutarii Hoplites with the priest or adapt taking more supporting roles. Shaman would be an unsanctioned psyker and beastmaster a rehashed arbites, so honestly both kind of make sense for the path with the least amount of work involved. SoBs just don't make sense to me since power armor would make them too tough and a novitiate should be almost the same as zealot, but I said the same thing about ganger and here we are
>>550767545After listening to some binharic dialogue from mechanicus I am now convinced it's 100% admechhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pvnxOn5LUEThere is no term more fitting for this than "cryptic"
>New classRogue Trader*drops mic*
>>550760982There was a time it was only for the upgraded oneThat maybe very well still be the case but just go auric maelstrom on gloriana and push a bunch of dudes off before everyone gets yeeted into the abyss by barrels or whatever
>>550769505It's to give some comfort to slavgroids.
>>550769891There are as many eldar as the plot requires, and they will throw bodies into whatever problem a cryptic vision of the future tells them too.Corsairs are a known and frequent piratical threat as far as the imperium is concerned.Clowns show up whenever and wherever they want for clown reasons.
>>550769891I think Elf could definitely work, just not at this point in the story and narrative. Things need to progress before anything like that happens, we need to learn more about Grendyl, something dire needs to happen with Admonition, etc. it can work but it needs proper set up.
I keep saying that the most logical implementation of>Plasma pistol>Infernopistol>HelpistolIs as a saltzpyre esque shock trooper ability or blitzIt makes most sense to reserve powered weapons like the fist for the shock trooper as wellAnd then the hellgun is obviously because the shock trooper needs to be a outcast engineer type funbutton
I rather new weapons for the base than new classes slo shit
>>550770903I'd love that but we all know stormtrooper will have the following 3 combat abilities>storm stance: increases your ranged damage and highlights elites and specials for 20 second>storm yell: gives your allies gold toughness and increases your melee attack speed, damage and impact by 50%>storm charge: violently charges to the target location
Is there a way to make the ogryn shield not hit like a wet noodle
>>550767545where did you get that from
>>550771416stopping the dlcs classes slop and rebalancing the game
Something like a Spryer would be a cool new class and can use the ogryn pov but yeah never ever
>>550770748>>550770893I guess my take is more that in both Eisenhorn and Ravenor the Eldar are ancillary and I could see that being what they do here since Dan Abnett was claimed to be consulting or writing the story. I forget which and I think they recently changed it to where they credit basically every major writer in GW's stable recently. If there were an Eldar class, I agree that there would have to be a serious escalation in threat level like chaos marines, a daemon prince, or a greater daemon. An exotic, borderline heretical, weapons DLC with Eldar gear feels more like what Fatshark does in general. Eldar would require unique character models, animations, etc and they just don't seem inclined to do that kind of work at this point
>>550771437it's in the class lists in the game files, it's the same way people saw "adamant" and "broker" (arbites and scum respectively) I dont know where in the lua it actually is but modders are posting about it. Fatshark is on that discord so they know modders see those so it's surely an intentional hint
>>550769287Fire staff is a flamethrower that has faster burn stack build up than zealot flamer, the LMB also staggers shit while doing damage so it holds back hordes and specials. Voidstrike you charge up and shoot a psychic bowling ball at head height and let it cleave everything in its path. Voidblast do quick heavy charges to keep enemies knocked off their feet. Dump stat is warp resistance, several perks in the trees give bonuses for higher peril and you have several perks to manage peril so its manageable as long as you don't panic and let your peril get too high.
Something about kayex calling everyone pre-servitors is very hilarious to me
>>550771416h1, shove, h1, shove. It's boring, but it's the best combo for the shield's moveset
>>550771918it's goodI generally like his character because of how utterly autistic and unsocialized he seems, perfect for a tech priest
>>550771934you don't need to shove, can just block cancel (or qq swap cancel if you're gay and suck dick and eat feces and have a macro for it)
[obscure reference/character people only saw mentionned once on the back of a box of cereal during a 40k collab back in the 90's] would make a great class. You're a tourist if you never heard of it btw.
Hot take:I think EVERY CLASS should have an ammo regen aura/nodeI wanna go zealot and spam my flamer constantly, or play gunlooger ogryn and not run out of ammo after ulting once.
>>550772646i'm not a 40k fan per say but i do believe darktide would sell far more copies if they put space marines in it. food for thought
>>550771934>>550772321It's really lame thst lot of good sweapons necessitate the use of macros or whatvever.
>>550771646Wouldn’t even say necessarily stuff like that, but have it so that Admonition is in the process of bringing in help from a PG marine or they’re about to punch open a hole into the Warp that will lead to the world being flooded with daemons or something. We know we’re not going to get any major daemon enemies so if they get involved with something like that it will be purely a background element a la the most recent tank. Also yeah an anon here shared that Abnett said on Facebook Darktide is apparently his only major project right now, so it’s possible his involvement leads to something like that. Haven’t confirmed it for myself but if true hopefully it means some story progression in the coming months.
>>550772942Ok, but only ultramarines. NO OTHER CHAPTERS COSMETICS
>>550772940I've been thinking about this too because in VT2 every ranged class could self-provide ammo if nothing else. So I've been thinking about why in Darktide, hive scum getting infinite ammo feels so absurdly powerful (or vet with survivalist pre-nerf) I think the main issue with giving ranged classes free ammo is that guns are a bit too strong to justify this in darktide. Blasting out a flamer or rumbler is just always way better and more efficient than actually meleeing. The same isn't true for VT2. Friendly fire, far clunkier and ineffective weaponry and no sprint to just get distance from melee enemies are probably the prime factors in keeping the ranged in check thereThere's also the secondary issue of, "if you give this tree ammo regen then melee builds will just pick it up too". See hive scum. Even the melee builds pick up pickpocket and now suddenly they have the best of both worlds.
>>550772646i look like this and say this.
>>550773014Yah that makes sense too. My crackpot theory is that he already wrote the whole story or at least all of the keypoints a while ago as the story has moved at a glacial pace in-game and we're at 3 years + dev time for the game, around 2 years, which a lot of authors can crank out a whole book in the period of
>>550773449....dad?
I'd love a bit more gore like this, Darktide doesn't look Grimderp enough to me.
>>550772646What's really funny is that every [obscure reference/character people only saw mentioned once] class is going to appear... just not in Darktide. They are doing every class out of the gate that Fatshark will never do.
>>550774147all those guys seem to be quite mainstream, no?
>>550773027No it should be some literally who chapter like Honoured Sons or Auric PatriciansI mean, it shouldn't be any chapterBut if it has to be any chapter, it should absolutely be something that is only a footnote in the lore
>>550774073It's the Swedes, they are somehow more puritanical than Americans depending on the group. It seems split down the middle between "I fuck my wife through a hole in the bedsheets and I make her sleep outside while she's on her period" levels of Puritanism and "GOOOOOOON, I MUST GOOOOOOON" tier autists who can only blast ropes to their ToT games.
>>550774246no V11 will remove all chapters but Ultramarines
>>550774241Yeah, Kroot and Eldar are definitely gonna be in this game. Absolutely. The other Anon is being hyperbolic because this thread only throws out the same groups of classes:>SoB>Skitarii/Tech Adept>Eldar>Kroot>Death Cult Assassin>Ratling>OrkEverything else is never brought up outside of like one odd guy who might make a random short post every 12 months. Dark Heresy is launching with functionally every single class that people here want in this game (well, most of them) but Fatshark will never do because that would require effort.
is it me or ratfags are suspiciously quiet these days?
>>550772942Thats space hulk deathwing.
>>550774246Mortifactors obscure enough? They are psychos from one of the worst hellworlds that the narrative has gone into without it being "HELP ME NIGGER MAN, I'M GOING INSAAAANE!" tier retardation. Before they are recruited, they come from extremely small family groups of savage tribesmen that don't even have language, and engage in ritualistic cannibalism. They are sort of like natives from Bone Tomahawk but even more primitive, and they live on a jungle world that never stops raining.
>>550771702Does crit interact with fire staff's dot damage at all? Also what about the Electrokinetic staff?
>>550774246Oh, and they are an Ultramarines successor chapter as the cherry on top. I would love for there to be even one sentence mentioning Robotman finding out about their existence.
>>550774073I realized the other day that the new map, which is trenches in an ACTIVE WARZONE, has no corpses anywhere
>>550774147Does the release of that game mean they're going to be finished with RT? I'd like to play RT but only when it's finished. Every time I go to look there's yet another huge patch incoming or a DLC.
>>550775645I saw a few corpses there and there in the trenches
>>550775228>Does crit interact with fire staff's dot damage at all?Damage no, but Crits add two stacks of burn instead of one, and let the staff reach 16 stacks, instead of the normal cap of 15. Also triggers your Empathic Evasion for ranged protection while you burn things.Electrokinetic Staff is the best at spamming the primary attack (Warp Nexus/Surge blessings), also single target control/damage with its charged lightning attack.
>>550775827I didnt see any
>>550775781Not a clue. I just think it's funny to watch Owlcat working from the sidelines like this because we get some insight into the schizophrenic mind of GW as well as the laziness of Fatshark.
>>5507757812 more dlc i believe. game is tons of fun.
>>550774073This makes me look forward to the Hellraiser game even more. I hope we get a Slaaneshi focused game in that same vein some day…
>>550775781nope
>>550772646LOL
>>550775916What exactly is the function of Assail? Feels like what it does can already be done by most of the staves. Do you only take Assail when you are playing gun psyker?
>>550777629Works with fire and electric as well giving you a long ranged options for bombers, snipers, and flamers. Especially flamers, pop their tank with a couple shards and they'll explode killing the enemies around them. Brain burst is fine and strong but it needs its upgrades to make it feels better to use. I don't use it much since I don't like the charge up time. Psyker has lots of nice QoL nodes in the lower part of the tree so it gets a bit point hungry.
>>550777629Can't speak for other's but a friend of mine uses it constantly because he just can't aim for shit in game so he feels like he's contributing more at ranged damage. Similar for a friend that probably has carpel tunnel
>>550777629Lots of fun with melee Psyker.>Scrier's Gays ends>subnode makes it so you can't blow yourself up during its lingering buff>spam the shit out of all your assail knives
>>550777629Also be a good staff psyker and be sure to pick up ammo crates if you're not carrying anything and everyone else is.
Why do tards whine about arbys cosmetics and not weapons
>>550779892*distant squeals*
>>550774909Dont jinx it please the peace and quiet is nice>>550775221I would say so>>550777629Assail is the funnest ability in the game and that’s all the reason you need
>>550779892I'm curious as to how they might do future weapons for the DLC classes, but I think we're getting nothing
>>550700798I boughted the commissar uniform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7VC_Q2LFEDo people actually play like this?>health bar>damage number>arc indicator>text announcing there' a special/elite>status effect text>and a bunch of unknown numbers and symbol onscreen
>>550781274Bravo that's probably one of the worst bundle of cosmetics. The hat is mediocre, the jacket is two sizes too large (and no gloves lol), I guess the pants are okay
>>550781646Healthbar is a genuine cheat and idk how it's still allowed. Healthbars just pop up all over mixed hordes and you can tell exactly what you need to shoot at.
>>550781646>Do people actually play like this?Shitters do, yeah. Just like they use AoE indicators for poxbursters, and highlight/autotag mods for specials. They're fucking pathetic, and they love to masquerade as skilled people because they got carried to havoc 40
Khandones was right about /coopg/
>>550781981>the radius of an explosion, demonhost, is invisible and not communicated to the player>making this critical information in a fashion every other game does for the exact same thing is other people "cheating">highlight/autotag mobs>in games where virtually every mob is a specialconsolejeets will never explain why making the game decipherable is bad. why is it not just in the game? so you can fucking guess all day and get clipped by things without knowing why?
>>550782079who?
>>550781981If the audio queues for the specials worked consistently people wouldnt need the radar mod.
>no mods>no scripts >no autoclicker cause Im not a wristletGit gud quite honestly thoughbeit
>>550778139>>550778730>>550778897>>550779797I guess what im trying to say is im having trouble trying to pinpoint assail's role. For example Zealot you have>Flashbang: big AOE stun>Moly: big AOE DOT damage>Knife: single target for sniping specials.So the psyker you have>Brain burst: big single target damage>Smite: big AOE CC>Assail: somewhere in between?
>>550781981t. hardstuck on havoc 1
>>550783193i spent 200 hours like that and you will get tired of clicking eventuallyif you don't then you can be king of clicking and that's just fine
>>550783273Try it out in the grinder and get a feel for it. You throw some shards and they follow your crosshair so you can sweep them through groups, good way to pull some gunner groups at range or take out a special like a sniper. Brain burst is a lot more consistent, as soon as you get a target lock you can go back into fover and the ability will still charge and fire. Brain burst is bigger damage and single target with a charge time, assail is medium-long range and can bit groups but is less damage.
>>550783273stabby bouncy knives that are okay at killing mooks, but don't work on carapace enemies. Great at Heresy and other lower difficulties. Absolute crap at higher difficulties.
>>550782752What the fuck are you talking about? AoE indicators arent a thing in any genre except MMOs and mobas and some random shit like tactical turn based games
>>550782752>retard needs a mod to tell him not to go near the daemonhost
>>550782752Obsessed
>>550783720>in this list of primarily pve games with AOEs in them, there are aoe circlesi can't get over ityou're the perfect moronyou learned how to talk, how to type, how to open a web browser, you are exactly as functional as you need to be just to be an unbearable dumbfuck in this thread
>>550783720AoEs are a thing in vanilla Darktide, or have you not fought the Karnak twins?
>>550784096>moba>primarily pvedude whatlmao
>>550784180>SHUT UP THOSE ARE CHEATING
>the 80 IQ esl retard poster is also a shartychild crazy
>>550783631Thanks a lot. I will keep that in mind. One last question. I know gun psyker exists where you take Scrier's Gaze and a high ROF gun as your ranged weapon. But is there a thing as melee psyker?
>>550785257100%. Some decent melee perks like one that let's you use peril to block instead of stamina, and the force sword have deflector that further reduce block costs and let you block with peril. Block before you start to revive a teammate and you can do it interrupted with any damage going to peril instead of your toughness or interrupting you. There are also perks to reduce peril with melee kills/crits so you can say throw a bunch of assail shards or burst some heads then dive into melee to drop peril. The one hand and two hand force sword are fun, dueling sword is dueling sword, and you can do devil claw parries.
>>550784180So? I said it's not a standard in "all games" much less fps games, it's a retarded thing to expect
>>550782752>>550782983>>550783507Own up to the fact that you're cheating and not winning legitimately instead of these pathetic attempts to justify yourselves. It's embarrassing.
>>550785880Thanks mate. Guess im playing Darktide again.
>decide to level le epic shovel in Auircs>A fucking unactivated power sword hits harderis there some secret I don't know about this weapon or is it just dogshit
>>550788009Dude, it's a literal shovel.
And a toothpick beats everything.
>>550787738Mad lol.
>>550788281>in a game where a skinny ass sword and whittled down spoons kill everything in secondsBased Retard
>>550788009It has better horde control but that's pretty much worthless now with how the game has developed.
>>550788009For the mkI Sapper Shovel,First blessing should be Uncanny Strike,Then Decimator, Skullcrusher, or Take a Swing depending on preference.And remember your Pushattack is your best single target damage attack, important for crushers
>>550789606Yeah after playing around with it more it appears that you really need serrated blade for this thing to be decent.Just feels like a gimmick bolt pistol build if you are sick of the knife.
>kicked from chaos wastes for using flame sword on necrowas it autism?
>>550789958Why?
>>550790749thats what i said
>Join H36 lobby>we wait for the other 2 slots to fill>they start H40>winUh...bros? I think I legitimately got carried. Granted I'm confident I done pretty well, but these other 3 were good. How disgusting is it that a H33 gets an H40 win. I thought I was pushing it trying to join an H36 (even though I'm pretty confident in that). Everyone just wants an Ogryn it seems, basically never get rejected joining when I play Ogryn. I'm still shocked that they wanted me in an H40 and that we won. I didn't get 'The Insane' penance I think because one of them DC'd right at the very start (It seems as if a disconnect/crash breaks it) but not that I care, just something I noticed with the penances.
>>550792384Thank you for the encouragement I will keep joining games until I get carried to 40 since I was burned out when Havoc first dropped
>>550789958I can only assume they were extremely bad at the game and blaming everything else. Getting upset at weapon loadout in Chaos Wastes is an extra level of stupid.
OOOUAAAAGHYAH YAH YAHYAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHOOOUGAAAYAHHH
>>550792684I will admit it's stupidly rough. It probably doesn't help that I play 3 classes in havocs (mostly 2) and still swap my talents and weapons around a decent bit. But it does get really bullshit and very demoralising at times. As I said on one hand yeah these 3 were obviously good and I probably got carried so to speak, but on the other I think I done well, seemingly nobody fucked up (at least to a degree where it mattered). Someone got netted I think 3 times and I was thankfully right next to them to instantly free them. I hope other H40 games are like this because it has rekindled my interest even more for havoc.There's a great difference between havocs and non-havocs, but then there's a huge difference between this H40 game and other havocs. I can't even express all of it. People knew when to push, and when to stop, and when to retreat. Every time, immediately, no hesitation. Likewise I would always have the captains/twins on me and the Vet would help me, but the Psyker and Hivcum would be nearby, but dealing with all trash. I never see this shit so consistent in other havoc tiers. It was just sublime. And I don't only mean in the sense of "yeah ok I got H40 done" but the actual co-operation. Seamless.Also I didn't know you could get a psyker to look so smug.
SOMEONE CALL FOR A BUN?HEADS DOOOWN
>>550793053what did he mean by this
>>550792780i wanted to pick their brain but they just kicked me again. im very curious how a necro using the tanky skeletons is supposed to reliably apply the extra damage debuff via burns if their skeletons cant
i wanted to integrate the YAH YAH YAH OOOOOUGHAAAAAAA but 4chan keeps telling me that doesn't format correctly. whatever
does anyone have the meme of vermintide 2 crappy meme but its for darktide?
>>550793953>>550793053The who?
READYING OMICRON MORTIS INTERCESSIANNNNGREEEENAAAADE
do i order taco bell doordash for the second time tonight?
>>550796231what did you get the first time?
>>550796570diarrhea
>>550797156Fucking kek, my exact thought when I read that post too.
hey bros i have 310k gold, what do? should i buy this set?
>>550797956Sure, if you like it. Ordo dockets are very plentiful in this game.
>>550797997i wanna look real nice, love me the Cadian green look
>>550755969I always take this node because on the chance I quickplay into a pox gas mission or the twins it's really usefulsame reason I like to use guns with torches on them - you never know if you're gonna join some lights out bullshit
>>550798119Genuine crime that Military green isn't a default shop cosmetic like red and blue camo.
>>550796231I wish I had Taco Bell here…
ny1 wnt 2 pley havoc geimu???
>game resets talents>rebuild>accidentally put wrong talent on (supposed to be kinetic flayer on psyker, but chose other one in haste)>build feels a million times better instantly>been feeling shit playing psyker for the last 2 weekscrazy how hard that one talent carries so hard
>>550799467lets run it
>>550791303>>550789958go to his steam page and question him
>veteran with no field improv, literally pathed around it to get serrated>flame staff psyker with no perilous combustion
I'm going to die in 7 days aren't I?
>>550799886Not if you play on bug realm like I often do. 6 is a good value for them.
>>550800046>do what, exactly?
>>550800046>7 minute rolling steelProbably the fastest I've had it (Auric). Nobody lagged or fucked about, just non-stop go. Great mission, I really hope they update all missions to be like this where you just drop into a hotzone and no 1 minute filler of sprinting around and going in elevators at the start of every mission. Complete waste of time.
>>550800046Lexbreaker
>>550772646I look like that and say that
>>550800174>atrabiliousI know that guy. He fucking sucks
>>550800174I'd like to see more timed missions in general, Rolling Steel is very good for teaching people how to move and fight rather than attempting to clear every last enemy.
>>550800795Trying too hard.>>550800826Yeah that too. Reminds me a bit of older style video games where each level/mission was also a lesson, teaching the player something new.
>>550798547giga agreed, red is a weird take for first armor stuff
>>550800909>Trying too hardHe should try a lot harder. Crazy how a havoc 40 arbites has to get carried through aurics
>>550800995is this some weird attempt at humor
>>550788009dude it's the best stat stick in the gamesince it has both Skullcrusher AND Uncanny Strike
>>550801113Ohh that's you, isn't it? Sorry. I didn't mean to call you out like that. But seriously, you should install the scoreboard to help you improve your skills
>>550801338>schizo, ragebaiter, and a scoreboardfagIDBLT
>>550801390You really prove the stereotype about anti-scoreborders all being a bunch of shitters. Like how fat women hate scales because they tell them they're fat
>>550800925isn't that because we work for the inquisition? the red uniforms, that is
>>550801616Schizo. Ragebaiter. Scoreboardfag.
>>550801678I just think it's unfair for you to join aurics while expecting people to carry you, but obviously you don't have the curteousy and conscientiousness to care
>>550801793See: >>550801678
Is skullcrusher actually good or is it like the dude that used to shill ripper guns
Enough with the izzat farming.
>>550801829If this how you react to all constructive criticism then it's no wonder why you're so bad
>>550801958Refer to: >>550801678
>>550802006If any comments about your skill are inherently rage-inducing then something is seriously wrong your skill and mind
>>550801924Wouldn't surprise me if it's the same person every time, for they speak and act in a very similar manner.>>550801919I recommend reading on Kuli's guides.>>550802128Read: >>550801678
>>550802162>theyThanks for respecting my pronouns, shitter
Man I wish Ogryn had better voice options, I don't even like brawler that much but every time I try one of the others they get grating so fast.
>>550802283How is Bully grating? I've used it since day 1 and I don't recall any sounds or lines being annoying.
>>550788936I am based.
>>550801678truth
>>550801678Coper. Seether. Shitter
>>550801919Yes, so long as you can actually stagger the enemy. It's good for amplifying team damage against large targets.
>>550799559>>550799467FS code 3476146291fresh havoc 38, North America EastI'll give it like 10 minutes before I start filling with normies and roll with whoever comes
>>550796231Doordash me some Spicy Potato Tacos from there, please. Just, like, 12 is fine. Thanks
>>550802704can i join if ive only played 10 havoc games ever
>>550803135Sure, all I ask is that you try not to split off and if you're playing vet, shoot the gunners/specialists over trying to melee the boss
>>550802283>not liking SAH!grim
>>550802283The bully, or whoever has the malfunctioning bonehead is the only voice I really like, and even then I wish he was more mean and retarded.
>>550802331He's just such a whiner, the voice acting itself is good and the concept of angry bullying retard is good but they don't commit to it enough.
>>550803794Brawler is the malfunctioning one.>>550803708A man can only take so many rashuns.
sell me this class, ladshow fun is it
>>550804920It's solid.
>>550804920Tanky has a anti dog retard machine that also is a CC/Kill bot (+ explosive if you take iT).Good damage and fun aesthetic.
>>550804920You're going to hear the word Lex a lot. It's pretty funny when you get a lobby that's just arbitrators.
>>550804920pretty fun, and noteworthy for being utterly retardproof
>>550804975>>550805259>>550805604>>550805616hell yeahI'm gonna get it, and maybe get Helldivers 2, even though I have mixed feelings over third person shooting.
Figure ill ask here as well. I keep seeing things about a decent coop mod for metal gear 5 that is seamless for a full play through. Anyone know of the best coop mod for Phantom Pain?
I'm completely dogshit terrible at this game, picked it up after it was free. How do I escape this hell? Is there an easy class?
>>550805669HD2 has a mode that puts you in first person while aiming. I think there might be a mode that just keeps you in first person.
>>550805747>Is there an easy class?Arbites
>>550805747It takes some practice to get into the swing of things, and figuring out how the weapons and talents interact. Arbites gives you a huge toughness buffer, but it'll teach you bad habits.
>>550787738brown detected
>>550802283New ones ok if you just want the voice to be a big mean dickhead but he seems to "smart" idk
>>550804920The two most notable playstyles within it are a special/elite/boss hunter-killer who literally has wallhacks that tell him where they are and a stalwart tank who keeps everything on the floor or spasming from electricity as he beats it to death with an extremely satisfying shocky stick with good combos. He's pretty good.
>>550804920>>550808496Oh I forgot to add, I warn you that the dog is not considered meta. He's good, and he's very fun to use in aurics, but everyone wants you to crutch with the infinite taser frisbees.
>>550808402Someone here pointed out that the 4th ogryn voice is just hallowette and it really is
>>550802704>anon joins>ez victory first tryDamn. copers ARE actually good at the game.
>>550808616Retard
>>550783720Helldivers has one, and that game has dog shit telegraphing
>>550809696stay mad, I'm right
>>550809812Retarded mongoloid
>>550809941you have to be 18 or older to post here
>>550809995But unfortunately retarded shitters like you are allowed to post their retarded shitter opinions here
>>550810195I literally clutched and carried high havoc with over 1mil damage on arbitrator right before posting that, you can keep believing whatever delusions you have, I'm okay with you thinking whatever you need to
>>550810195nta but you're a fucking braindead faggot, he wasn't sharing his opinion
What happened to the Arbitrator how come they never added more cosmetics to the slop store
>>550810942What I wanna know is why people keep asking for cosmetics and not for weapons
>>550811082That'll just be VT2 again and the weapons will be the best in slot
>>550810942The more concerning question is what happened to Scummie and why they aren't getting any. Everyone said that Arbitrator was an outlier and that future DLC classes wouldn't have the same GW issues preventing new cosmetics being made.
>>550810443>no scoreboard or videoLol
>/coopg/>look inside>indians bragging and shitposting for izzatI wish I could move to America, anything would be better than sharing a timezone with these shitters.
>>550811661just apply for H1B visa Mahesh
>>550811206but they already are, or does anyone actually think shivs or executor shotguns are balanced
>>550701296>Does this entire plotline just not exist in game anymore?Its there, you still get summoned to a place to be told you're a worthless fuckoff every 5 levels if you make a new non DLC character.
>>550811661timezone posting is the biggest admission that you're a thirdie I've found yet. Like I dont know how you think timezones have anything to do with anything, it's daytime in half the civilized world at any point of a 24 hour cycle, and it's not like american autists stop posting just because it's 1am or whatever
>>550811082I'd take a slug shotgun with executioner rounds as the special. That's really all he needs for range. You could try to give him a power fist but I doubt you're ever going to get me to stop using the hate crime club.I bet the fuckers will put them in weapon packs as a separate paid DLC.>>550811869You say the DLC weapons are OP, but I'd like to remind you that the power sword exists.
>>550812003You can't seriously look at the juvenile shitposting going on and not instantly realise it's just fucking izzat farming, and always at the same time of day.
>>550812095It's almost 10am here right now and I just got up and this is on going. You know what the last thing I saw was yesterday when I looked at this thread the last time, in the evening, like 8pm? >>550741763Wow turns out the izzat ragebaiting is all in your head. Stop the mental illness man, just don't reply to things you think are trolls
>>550762696Dime a dozen Scab Gunners have Hellguns, it's entirely arbitrary because fartshart can't figure out guns with ammo backpacks.
>>550812932Can't they just make the ammo pack small and on the lower part of the back so that it sits underneath any back cosmetics? Or alternatively just not display the ammo pack at all if a backpack is equipped? Why is this considered too difficult?
>>550813047It's not that it's difficult, they just don't care.
total dogshit penances I hate this garbage class so fucking much
>>550769891Issue with Skitarii trees and weapons is that Skitarii are refitted into specialized frames before combat, so they don't have a common body type between units such as Vanguards or Ruststalkers. This also makes it harder for Fatshit to sell cosmetics giving them less incentive to make it over a low ranked Techpriests where they can just shit out generic augments that fit the same base model, unless of course forced by GW.
your present for the day
>>550813779Scummie and Arbie penances are tedious but at least actually achievable when you set yourself to it unlike the complete nonsensical bullshit penances of base game classes
>>550813932thank you Steve Buscemi
>Techpriest>Electropriest melee damage archetype>Enginseer ranged damage archetype>Techsorcist support archetypeThere you go
I did it bwos=w=!
>>550813801Literally none of this will matter once we get the skitarii
>>550814358plap
what's the consensus on crowbar? The ripping takes too much time
>>550797956I think it looks cool? Buy it.
>>550814976It's rancid dogshit
>>550800925The penance armors are black and red because we work for Grendyl's warband. If you look at the guardsmen in the lobby they all have similiar red and black uniforms.
>>550802283You just don't like ogryns. Play another class.
So did we ever come to a conclusion regarding the correct blessings for the shivs? A lot of shitflinging over precognition vs. riposte vs. flesh tearer and whether castrated untranny strike is actually valuable or not, and yet it seems like no matter what combination of blessings you take they still completely blend everything on screen.
Fucking christ picking vulture's mark makes me hate veteran constantly snipping my targets
Day 13 of trying to finish the "special assignment" and I still cannot find a single match of spireside-13. It's like the game is broken and will not matchmake for it or something.
>>550816564It only works on high difficulties where there's so many you don't have to compete, or on low difficulties where if you're not killing them, then they're not getting killed at all.
>>550817180fair. Also what are the good blessings for the stub pistols? Speedloader seems like a trap, got crucian roulette
>>550817296Not a clue, I haven't used them yet
>>550817342they are very fun. Also the special gun twirling gives you a pinpoint accuracy during the twirl. Seems you also get a boost while sliding
>>550736485I keep getting matched with 80 iq console subhams that have their game audio and babies crying and shit blasting down their open mic. this is no way to be immersed in a horror game
>>550818926Horror of a different sort
>>550817296>Speedloader seems like a trapHow?>crucian roulettePretty bad and pointless on dualies
>>550819927I feel like speedloader needs the five stacks to really be useful so it's too situational. Meanwhile you shoot so fast you quickly reach the five stacks onc rucian. What would you take? Desperado?
>>550817296Crucian is interesting on them, but the down time on reloading is time wasted in desperado and time you could eat hits without vulture's dodge up. In the grand scheme it is probably a massive DPS increase compared to crucian as well. Desperado for the other blessing.I dunno how I feel about the stubbies. I've regularly do a bajillion damage with them in any match I take them to, but they're definitely worse at mulching large hordes compared to the uzis. They can kill crushers, but only when their rending and crits are up, and they do better damage against monstrosities, but monstrosities aren't really so threatening as to be DPS checks, while the hive scum ranged build struggles against captains in general no matter which gun you bring.I've just been playing melee scum though, shit's amazing and far less braindead.
>h40 hivescum alt f4 at any minor inconvenienceIt's you, I know it's you...
>Make scummie take a forced tax node>Make it an objective downgrade to your survivability that makes your dodge significantly less effective while also getting you killed more often due to clown physicsWhat did Fartshit mean by this?
>>550821635>What did Fartshit mean by this?Git gud.
>>550820775which melee? The sawbone l presume? Hate the pattern of it
https://youtu.be/2MNYZK0Sw9s?si=TWLnWGbQruwSV6WzHow the fuck did they downgrade the combat this bad?All the sounds and recoils in this trailer just look 10x more punchy and satisfying.
>>550821571Hey that's me!!
>>550821635you can just take dodge slide or 10% tam on dodge instead if you dont like nimble. I like it now that they changed the ranged iframes
Hive scum could have just been more weapons for the other classes?
>>550822964Arguably yeah.Ogryn should've gotten the rocket launcher as a ranged weapons.
>>550822345no it does notyou think it looks good just because it looks different
Desperado scummie isn't fun and also the new map is shit
>>550821885it literally does not matter, I've brought the devil's claw just to parry bosses, you literally never have to use your melee on ranged scum.
>>550823409could you share your build
>>550823347No its because it looks better. Sharper impacts, less floaty feeling in general.
>>550822345>10x more punchyNo, not really.Those sounds on the ogryn kickback/rumbler honestly sounds awful. Same with the thunder hammer hits.Also I think many of the sounds are just the sounds we have in game, like the autogun and infantry las one.Only thing I do miss and like about the trailer is the part where the poxwalkers are scrambling through a dark hallway trying to get to the team, like they are even crawling over each other
I push poxbursters back with my bayonet.
>SCOOMING all over mixed horde with autopistols>Silent burster pops out of the floor in the middle of the horde>You now lose 60% of your HP for no reasonEpic scoomer gameplay
>>550823768>couldn't hear the obnoxious ticking noise over the ghetto straight edge punkSkill issue.
>>550823902The silent specials in this patch are significantly worse than they have ever been and it makes my scoomer gameplay extremely frustrating
Anyone interested in playing picrel with me? No voice. Bonus points if you own the game
>>550824515Sorry I don't have a vagina I can't play this kind of game.
>>550822345>darktide final mission boss fight>track from the trailer starts playingholy kino
stop being a killjoy, anon
>>550826872I roleplay as a suicidal Cadian veteran who runs forward, aggroing as much as he can, dying, and leaving. I'm based.
>Havoc 21>haven't played in 2 months, just wanted to ease in>Dark communion>wipe twice, host is getting angry>just have constant hordes on me with no breathing room as vet, Arbites is obviously useless>he switches to fucking hive scum melee with CRIT AURA>hop on braindead Ogryn>Carry the mission with another player>Hiv scum is constantly running forward and getting caught.>Still ends mission with most damage (10k more than me)Who ever said that class is weak needs to be shot. It's fucking braindead.
>>550826872I'm tired of ogryns laser focused on their larp instead of playing well.
I hope the next DLC class doesn't have some stupid bullshit active ability requiring you to watch two cooldowns constantly and spam off CD in order to maintain stacks of the only halfway decent keystone. I signed up for an FPS coop horde shooter, not MOBAslop
>>550822964Yeah, the rocket launcher, stub guns and needle are used by different regiments of astra militarum
>ages since I played psyker>pyro? nah too boring>blast? nah>strike? nah>remember electro staff exists>do a critmaxxed scriers gaze + warp siphon build with brain rupture + kinetic flayer>literally only use m1 with staff, never drop out of scriers gaze, cant explode, always at 100% peril, giga damage all aroundhot diggity damn, never played psyker like this, pretty fun
>>550829345Idk this should only work in reduced ability cd maelstroms after psykinetic aura's nerf, like removing infinite scriers was the whole point of a nerf, did it achieve nothing?
Do you take float like a butterfly on ranged scummie or not? The extra point tax makes the bottom of the tree very tight. I think I didn't use it initially since I thought it only applied to melee attacks, but if it does apply to ranged as well then it seems mandatory.
>mr estrogen say having reduced cooldown is important for stimm supplyI don't understand, stimm cd is always lower than ability cd and it resets the ability cd, what does he want to say? Does it also reduce stimm cd or what? It literally says ability cd (on chem dependency), not cd in general.
You put the bleed talents on ogryn right
>>550830280Yes if you take delight in destruction (which you always do if it's not a looger)No if you make a looger>>550829884Yeah why not. The "tax" isn't even that bad, in case you need to use your melee it gives you reliable toughness recovery. And 20% critchance is a lot, and dodge is what you always do in ranged build (autododge randed, can't push or block so have to dodge melee, it just happens all the time even if you don't want to).
>>550829464only played regular auric so far, I have like 3 seconds max before I can scrier up again,
>>550801919Yes, especially on veteran when you bark at a boss and shank it twice then watch it meltThe only problem is that shock maul sucks vs ragers and I'm scared to bring d-claw vet to havoc (as if anybody will ever accept me lol, I only get accepted into dogshit lobbies). That is why people use shovel. I'm not a fan of shovel, but I guess I have to give it a try.
>>550831271to add to this, warp siphon with 6 stacks really helps for scriers uptime
>>550831491Hm yeah, it should work with warp siphon, I think I tried with disrupt destiny and that was my issue.
>>550831435Mk1 shovel on veteran is awesome. Not flashy at all but very defensive and reliable, which I think is exactly what veteran needs. Knife does have superior mobility but shovel is so comfy.
>>550822345damn it was cool when i thought the enemy was going to have AI and this was going to be more of a careful, cover-based survival shooter
>>550831702Really? Even tho it was basically confirmed to be a Vermintide clone set in 40K? Did you PLAY Vermintide at all?
>>550830096>mr eStopped reading there.
>>550831768post banners
>>550829039Ogryns who laser focus on playing well do the LARP correctly.You're the blood battering ram that keeps your team alive.
>>550832490I'll take that as a "No, I did NOT play their previous title and am only here because 40K."
I only bought Darktide because I saw you could play as an ogryn in one of the trailers.
>>550832689>here's your teammate bro
how doth i ogryn? anything i try just seems to do shit dmg and have shit surviability
>>550832781I play games for fun.
>>550832846Ogryn has been delegated as the 'gap filler' support character. Your job is to be a bullet sponge and to carry heavy stuff and say "SAH" and "EMPRAH" and "RASHUNS." Also some of your weapons let you slap shit so you should be slapping specials into corners until they die for lulz.
>>550832846dodge into enemies
>>550832846Use this. You can change Bullrush for Loyal Protector instead.As for weapons use>slab shield, use brutal momentum + skullcrusher with carapace + flak damage>karsolas pickaxe, use slaughterer + headtaker, with carapace + flak damageFor ranged weapons use>achlys single stubber, with opening salvo + deadly accurate, maniac + flak (you mainly use this if you want to LARP as a veteran and don't trust your team mates to take out ranged enemies)>rumbler, adhesive charge + shattering impact/shrapnel, mainly good for clearing hordes and ok boss damage>kickback, surgical + run n gun/full bore, decent specialist killer at close to mid range>mk2/mk5 ripper gun, blaze away + fire frenzy, also decent specialist killer at close to mid range, can be used for hordes tooThat's about it.
>>550832534lol newfag
>>550833579Listen to yourself, izzat loser. You wanted Gears of War and got Left 4 Dead because you don't actually review games, you just consoom.
>>550832846Ogryn has been relegated to being a sad crowd control bitch because hank is utterly terrified of the idea of ogryn being able to do damage outside of some hilariously gimmicky builds.Get used to sliding after every single dodge, and get used to sliding while sprinting and chaining all of them indefinitely because that is going to be your new walk animation. All you really do is enable other people to play outside of auric.
>>550833378>kickbackHoly shit this weapon is so underwhelming when you start. It can't even clear chaff. Who thought this would be a good starter weapon? I hope it gets better with more talents and stuff, but, golly gee, Anonymous, it's fucking bad.
>>550833726you're legitimately so lost you don't even know the post banners meme, using retarded 4chan islamophile slang. you're everything you claim to hate. don't bother conceding, it shan't be accepted. it's time to go have breakfast with my loving white family.
>>550832984>>550833320>>550833378>>550833743fucking swedes, hurr durr jag heter bög peter och är bättrefolkchecked few builds all said hurr do massive dmg after bitchslap+attack, barely tickles crushers and then you see a hive cum one shotting stuff left and right with some fucking shivs,
>>550834086I just want to know why thought this game was going to be a 'tactical cover shooter.' Even if the bullshot trailer tried to push that idea, you should realize this is a Fartshart game. You CAN try to play covert gun man but at the end of the day you will get run up on by 10 maulers.
Zealot rework when?
>>550834202> Even if the bullshot trailer tried to push that ideaIt did?>>550834086It’s poophobic actually
>>550832510I think very few of them understand this too honestly.
>>550835206IIRC the original trailer was just 4 guardsmen taking up position against some gunners. I think it showed the 4 'generic heroes' seen throughout the campaign missions for a moment but it didn't really push the idea that it was actually a 'tide' game. Anyone who had played V1 and V2 had the idea that it was just going to be V3:40K but it heavily pushed ranged combat. Honestly I don't think a ranged only Tide game could ever work.
>>550834202I once saw a vet go into the trenches with a fucking infantry lasgun, as if that was gonna do anything.
>>550824515What the hell is it? Never heard of it before>>550809509We’ve known this albeit>>550812003True and that daytime only started very recently!
You are playing the drg yuletide event, right anon? I like listening to silent night in the hub
>>550814136this this this>>550814586he just explained we’re getting a tech priest DOE
>>550836050no I don't like getting bitten from all sides, fall damage and overclock RNG
>>550818926I’ve never encountered this. Also I’m pretty sure you can just… mute those people.
>>550836672Same, worst I've encountered are quirky chungus couples playing together with open mics talking about shit like dinner. Mmm, dinner.
>She uses the MkX relic bladeel oh el. Never making it out of havoc 26.
>>550818926The funniest match of Darktide I ever played included two Spaniards who were clearly friends loudly talking in their made up language over in game voice the entire time and they kept calling ogryn "El Gigante" and it made me nearly piss myself laughing
>>550836889>it brings zealot to havoclol
>>550836050Was thinking about it earlier but remembered that each time the drilldozer needs refueling people don't want to do it and I have to take the initiative
>>550837679>nobody ever does the fucking objective in every co-op game everExplain this phenomenon
>>550837743>>550837743>>550837743>>550837743>>550837743MOVE! (Crusher could be there)
>>550835652Was there another trailer besides the reveal one where it was all pitch black and this one >>550822345? I don’t think I’ve seen it before
>>550834092quality post
>>550834092There is no ogryn melee build that's good against crushers. Ogryn melee weapons can have good armor penetration or good dps but not both. Bully club rapes crushers but only if you have voidblast psyker apply 40% brittleness to them.Only rumbler and grenade gauntlet are good for crusher conga lines because of aoe. If you don't play havoc and just want to ruin auric lobbies for everyone, take the lugger pill. With grenade gauntlet in aurics you barely need to switch to melee, so you can take a power maul and delete packs of ragers with a blast when they come.
