2 more weeks edition >>>The Game<<<https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/>>>News<<<>05/09: "Terran Armada" was teased>05/08: New update - Bethesda confirming that "exciting things" are coming in the future: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1947686948799389848>06/05: New update in Steam beta: https://x.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1919776896578982315>06/03: Bethesda confirming future updates: https://x.com/StarfieldGame/status/1897709518013997493>>>Resources<<<>Compendium: https://starfieldcompendium.com/>Mods: https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/>>>FAQ<<<>Q: CK?>A: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2722710/Starfield_Creation_Kit/>Q: What's the deal with NG+(+...)?>A: Restarts the game with minor changes to the story and world, while preserving your powers and skills. 10 cycles for suit upgrades, 6 cycles for upgrading the starborn ship>Q: Should I reinstall?>A: If you are excited about a customizable difficulty, 3D maps, ship decorations, new bounty hunting missions and mechanics, official mod support and a vehicle, then yeah>>>Misc<<<>/stag/ modlist: https://pastebin.com/rNtnZTES>Artbook rips: https://mega.nz/file/TlJSBTwB#GhmrZRoHDAhhei__Bz2zc6GisgB67_vONrAfYQR8lK0>Character builder: https://nukesdragons.com/starfield/character>Threadly space music: https://youtu.be/6cucosmPj-A>>>OP template<<<>https://rentry.org/stag_op_new (will be periodically updated)Previous Unity cycle: >>549090172
Sarah? why did everyone go
Confirmed: They received an early look from Bethesda for "future of Starfield" but they can't say anything for now
>NG+>build exactly the same ship>shield goes down from 3300 to 2400>they reported fixing this bug over a year ago
>>550760249cute
>another /stag/ thread sucessfully reaching bump limit
If you could remake the story of Starfield, what would it be about? Anything is better than searching for magical rocks.
>>550770747Get rid of the rocks, set the story back during the war. You can still even be a miner. Plenty of reasons for people of all striped to be there during war times.
I've never played this game before but I'm going to buy it later.
>Befriending Barrett and maxing out his affinity early.
So apparently the space stuff is just going to be outlaws style 'loading screens' instead of the shitty ones we currently have. Does anyone actually think they're gonna release a patch worthy of the 2.0 mantle? because imo in order for it to be worthy of that they would have to improve the story a lot, make the temples into actual dungeons (that make use of the power you got) and improve the procgen to actually be procgen instead of just POI's with the enemies and items in the same place every time.
>>550772969I don't know… but… I'm afraid…
>>550748523>>550742143Those two twats said Starfield was a 10/10 once in a generation game, how can anyone trust these hype merchants?Do people really think current Bethesda is capable enough to actually turn Starfield around?
>>550772969>So apparently the space stuff is just going to be outlaws style 'loading screens' instead of the shitty ones we currently have.That's fine, at least it will be more immersive.>they would have to improve the story a lotThe most they'll do is fill in plot holes, I highly doubt the existing story will get changed>make the temples into actual dungeonsI don't expect the existing Starborn Temples to get redesigned by Bethesda themselves, but we might see Zelda like temples featured in the Starborn DLC (hopefully)>improve the procgen to actually be procgen instead of just POI's with the enemies and items in the same place every time.The most you can expect is more handcrafted locations. "Maybe" Bethesda might add some unmarked locations to stumble across in between heading to POIs like in the Tiny Reasons to Explore series, but I doubt it.
>>550772969>>550773658Lets be honest this is bethesda were talking about what we’ll get at most is>10-20 new in game POIs>5 new spaceship random encounters>outlaws style space travel>an overpriced 15 hour long dlcThat’s it, Bethesda won’t suddenly turn Starfield into the game it was meant to be in 2026
>>550773579>Do people really think current Bethesda is capable enough to actually turn Starfield around?I don't think so given their track record; but if they were smart they would give it their best shot. This game is the last point of reference for the next TES game; if they made it into a great game, it would win them a ton of goodwill and hype people massively for new Bethesda games going forward. They have lost pretty much all of their goodwill with vanilla Starfield, FO76 and now the FO4 legendary edition with all the cash shop kikery. Even worse is that they're calling Todd a has-been, clueless and past his prime.
>>550774324Starfield isn’t a good reference point for TES VI. I think the problem with Starfield is that just like any space game out there is that there aren’t really any 10/10 space games that are open world. I just don’t see Bethesda being able turn around and somehow end up being the exception to the ruleTes VI will win goty as long as it’s basically skyrom/oblivion clone. Fromsoftware wins goty each time because their games keep copying the same formula
>>550775321Yeah but fromsoft games innovate. There isn't really anything about Starfield that hasn't been done as well or better by other games, (except maybe the ship building) whereas Elden ring is pretty much the gold standard for that genre of game. (as was Dark Souls before it)They can't just clone Skyrim anymore, it's a 15 year old game that's being kept going in current day by mods (predominately adult mods). They need to innovate because if they don't someone else will, and they will steal Bethesda's customers from under their nose with ease. Millennials that played Skyrim in their youth don't make up the bulk of the gaming market anymore, and zoomers (plus alphas soon) don't give a single shit about Bethesda's old games.
>>550776146Bethesda is toast. Realistically, there's no way for them to bounce back. They're clearly incompetent and creatively bankrupt. Though, I don't believe them: they're in a tough business.
>>550776626Not just Bethesda but it seems like every single company Microsoft has acquired has turned to total shit. It's like they ripped the heart out of every single one of them and just tried to turn them into soulless money printers.I'm so glad their entire video game division is failing massively.
>>550773579Who cares, you won't like it regardless so give up already
>>550776146From doesn’t innovate, just because you turn the same formula of games into an open world doesn’t mean it’s innovation.Innovation is something like Radiant AI>>550776959The problem with gaming is that we haven’t seen any actual groundbreaking innovation in game mechanics or systems since 2013 The games that are regarded the best like RDR2 and Elden Ring are based on improvements of a formula that’s been around during the 360/ps3 era
>>550772969>make the temples into actual dungeons (that make use of the power you got)Wow an actually concrete suggestion. Thank you OP>>550770747I'd keep the rocks but make getting every single one of them an adventure. We already have hunting down a Vanguard for his rock, bumping into a corporate lord for his rock (with a corporate warfare twist). You know, snooping, drilling, searching for leads, getting past wild beasts, involve Matteo and Noel more, or whatever. Make each one a discrete adventure>>550773579What, you think all-in-one sandbox space RPGs are dime a dozen?
>>550777537I'd argue that people don't want improvements, per say, but rather games to have more content than that which came before. Also, people don't want "wokeness" to affect the setting of games. Mostly because gayness is lame and uncool. People want to spend money on cool and sexy things.
>>550778482Yep new and fresh handcrafted content, explains the reason why Fallout 4 vanilla wasn’t as well received as Skyrim or FNV because Fallout 4 before dlcs and creations had less handcrafted than those games and Starfield doesn’t have as much handcrafted stuff as Fallout 4.
>>550775321None of Bethesda's games can ever truly be a 10/10 experience vanilla wise. They're all pretty much on par with Garry's Mod, you make the experience more enjoyable through user generated content. At the same time however, while the games don't have to be perfect, they at least have to be enjoyable, because putting a pretty band-aid over an infected wound does not lead to a good time. Starfield's problem is just that most people aren't having fun with it, it's currently in a state where you can compare it to a modern art museum as few people are actually interested in it.
>>550776626I think Bethesda will continue to live on from brand recognition and creating addicting yet not really satisfying gameplay loops. The most realistic take on their decline would be that they drop everything that isn't Fallout (and keep a small team working on ESO for the people who have been playing that for 10 years).
>>550776146>because if they don't someone else will, and they will steal Bethesda's customers from under their nose with easeNot true, unfortunately. There's a reason no one has launched a true competitor even with the gigantic window Bethesda has provided. Making a full scale Bethesdalike from scratch is just too much effort, its not feasible for indies and big studios would rather invest in get rich quick scams. The genre is just going to die with them, barring leaps in AI development that would allow a smaller team to make one within 5 years instead of 20.
Starfield needed more types of sandwiches. That's why the game has poor reception. There's only one type of sandwich which is unrealistic. There's at least 3 more types of sandwiches in real life. And no, before you ask: hotdogs aren't sandwiches. I don't want to hear your tranny logic about it either.
I wanna play as a pirate with a pirate crew. Space combat is lame. Is it fun raiding settlements? Like POI ones, or the higher cities? I kinda wanna see how much I can loot from Gagarin before we have yo run back to the ship
The problem is gamers expect more for their money now, usually more than any developer can reasonably deliver. Starfield is literally the definition of fine. There's nothing actually wrong with it. People just aways want more because they're ungrateful shits. They expect content, updates, expansions, everything, to be every other day and free and huge and all this shit but that's just not how the world works. Bethesda finally gave them a space game and they just went "okay but it's not space gamey enough" like the little cunts they are.
>>550781789>The problem is gamers expect more for their money nowThe price of games has increased, so it's only fair. Star Wars: Battlefront II shits on most modern games, and that came out 20 years ago.
Do Starborn cum?
>>550783842On my face yes
i really love listening to autistically long critiques of this game. they’re a lot more entertaining than the game i think
Sarah should have been modeled after Debbie Harry
>>550788069>i thinkOh shit, we got some cute latinas in here
>>550788069It's over for you your brain can't even grasp how sloppy video game essays are
>>550788848They are easily the worst low brain activity right next to watching tiktoks >pick an irrelevant topic (does water make sense in a video game map (you already know the answer))>go in depth about said irrelevant topic>...>profit?
Did I fucked up?
>>550790807No as long as you have sex with Sarah
>>550791273Indeed
>>550788069This is proof how spoonfeeding the video game player is profitable
>>550772969Sensei what is outlaws style 'loading screens'? starwars outlaws?
>>550772969>So apparently the space stuff is just going to be outlaws style 'loading screens' instead of the shitty ones we currently haveno where is this confirmed.
>>550792374whaaat
>>550792374>>550799545WOOOOOOOOOOO
>>550783842Everyday all day inside of Sarah until I collapse from exhaustion.
Tldr on the leaks?I just want manual flight through systems with encounters desuPipedream would be procedural generated settlements (stations and planetside) but that's a never ever lol
Why can't I grav jump away from ship encounters where I'm getting decimated? I thought jumping away was a feature.
>>550781173>>550812547We all know you aren't really playing Starfield. No one plays Starfield.
>>550777559>You know, snooping, drilling, searching for leads, getting past wild beasts, involve Matteo and Noel more, or whatever. Make each one a discrete adventureThen there's also the issue of NG+: unless there's enough real variability to make it worth repeating it 240 times (not just some new dialogue options that let you skip a persuasion check or something), it only turns into a massive pain and turnoff instead
>>550812547You sure you're jumping to another star system? Because interplanet travel is not technically jumping>>550817145Ah crap you're right
With how many faggots and blacks there are in Starfield you'd think the AIDS would be all over the place.
>>550748680How did you make it looks like it's a photo of a miniature?
>>550826391Why should he answer you? You could be a rapist or anything.
>>550826892Do the needful
>>550828920Back off!
Cum…
Emil Pagliarulo surpasses Tolkien's work. Tolkien crawled so Emil could run.
luv Toddluv spaceluv me settlementsluv Sarah approvalbut most of all,luv Sarah.Simple as.
>>550831757>bullied out of /stag/ /fog/ and most famously, /cp77g/ Shall we begin?
>>550812514Tldr is that the update/DLC exists. That's it. Youtube channels are using the word leaks for clicks but no one has actually leaked details yet, just confirmed they were shown footage.>>550817145Rather than making a bunch of variant universes, I think they should've written the questlines to accommodate deaths, speedrun strats, and the possibility of failure, then disabled essential flags. Training wheels on the first run, then let the player go nuts.
>>550833913/stag/ needs Sarahfag more than ever. Sarahfag brings much needed scientific and philosophical discourse in the general. The problem with regular /stag/ goers is that they're uncultured swine, to be honest, and know shit about science or philosophy. They just want to shoot things and masturbate.
>>550841861>Training wheels on the first run, then let the player go nuts.That might be if not better, then at least more realistic option. But I also have a feeling they're trying to avoid making the universes look disposable, i.e. something you could wreck for your amusement then escape through unity with zero permanent repercussions, even if it's essentially how the entire thing works, or what players have been doing since time immemorial in their games with save/load functionality.
>>550841861>Training wheels on the first run, then let the player go nuts.Yeah that's what I think a lot of people wanted, myself included.
>>550852757They acknowledge the potential to develop that mindset with the Hunter and psycho variant of the MC, I think the problem is that Todd is too adamant about his "let the player do everything in one playthrough" philosophy even with a mechanic that should allow for a compromise.
>>550842523Truth NUKE
>>550842523>Sarahfag brings much needed scientific and philosophical discourse in the generalDon't remember seeing him do that
I miss my old explorer save, but I haven't played for ages and I'm sure the load order is all fucked up now
>>550842523>They just want to shoot things and masturbate
hi 40y/o immoooorser here!is the game immooooorsive yet?i think im gonna emooorrse over christmas>new years.
>>550861587No
>>550862210god damn it the square earthers were right all along!
>2 year old pic used to shitpost
ES6 will sell at least 60 million copies, FO5 will sell at least 40 million copies. Creation Engine continues to be the best engine to make open world RPGs.Todd will always win.
>>550865859>>2 year old pic used to shitpostPost your own screenshots then
Gorgeous eyes, but...
Todd gave so much
>>550866961Those 3D surface maps are so cool
>>550866961All of these would have been basegame from any other developer
>ES6 releasing just in time to mog TW4I can't fucking wait.
>>550868051Both will be shit, unfortunately. Too many women devs. Women don't understand what men want: believe men have to be corrected. Male spaces are problematic, unless it's the frontlines.
tfw you don't know what you want to do right now
>>550866764didn't realise starfield had apes
>>550870419Does Starfield even have white NPC spawns?
>>550871036Too few. But Starfield is capable of creating beautiful people. Imagine if all leftist activists just vanished....
>>550872831Leftists made the game, bro. The right can't be creative.
>>550872995A lot of pre-2016 shit would be considered "chud" these days:Oblivion>Pronouns are based on sex.>A male is the default choice in the character creator.>Most leadership positions are occupied by men.>Casual racism.>Lacks distinct LGBT representation.Fallout 3>Tenpenny Tower quest has an anti-immigration allegory.>You can own a slave women.>Black man is in charge of slavers. This would be seen as whitewashing slavery in the US.>Pronouns are based on sex.>Most leadership positions are occupied by men.>White male is the default choice in the character creator.>Lacks distinct LGBT representation.New Vegas>The second black man you meet is a criminal, and is even in prison clothing.>Pronouns are based on sex.>Most leadership positions are occupied by men.>White male is the default choice in the character creator.>You can join a faction that is misogynistic.Skyrim>White male is the default choice in the character creator.>Pronouns are based on sex.>Most leadership positions are occupied by men.>Lacks distinct LGBT representation (ESO fixes this with the inclusion of a nonbinary elf)Most "chuds" (people that dislike progressivism) are probably centrists rather than right-wing. Even some leftists hate that shit. Bernie Sanders has hinted he doesn't like the identity politics bullshit. Media tried to slander him and his followers as being racist and sexist. Also that retard Hillary Clinton said: "If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, would that end racism? Would that end sexism?" In reference to Bernie.
It's almost that time of the year again
>>550893401Decorate that a little more
Starfield probably has the funnest jetpack combat in vidya
>>550894694Zero G too but it's not like they have competition. The FPS scene is bankrupt
>>550872995He specified activists. People on the left and right can both make good entertainment, but extremists are almost invariably awful at it because they're unwilling to do anything but glorify themselves and/or bitch about the opposition. Leftists don't dominate the current industry because they're inherently more creative, but because they've spent years purging and gatekeeping.
>>550898046No one is gatekeeping anyone they've done it to themselves
>>550872995>LotR isn't creative>Conan isn't creative>the works of Lovecraft aren't creativeDang,,, because some bluehair genderspecial said it it must be true,,,
>>550898818You're not fooling anyone.
>>550871036Yes, but they're not as noticeable among the crowd npcs which is heavily comprised of Africans, Asians and Aborigines. And just to be clear here, there are 3 human npc types in Starfield: Crowds, Radiants, and Uniques.-The Crowds are what you actively see roaming about the major cities, they're purposefully made to be low quality to fill these cities with activity without putting too much strain on the engine-The Radiants are npcs who are usually randomly generated for things like populating small settlements, being guards, crew, or enemies, and being radiant quest givers or targets. Their design has more effort put into them-The Uniques are npcs that are designed to actually stand out from the above, they're usually tied to various major and side quests and some can be companions
>>550899407You're not either if you can't get hired as a video game dev
>>550900107I prefer the Elder Scrolls method of having all NPCs (guards being the exception, but guards are still dedicated spawns with their own quarters) being unique. I don't mind the smaller scale of settlements. Cardboard cities do nothing for me.
tfw no goth girlfriend
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