Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8916 - Blaze Autism Edition==NEWS==>NiGHTS, Ai Ai, Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorldshttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 DecemberSonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttp://sagexpo.org/>SHChttp://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>550693881
I'm so jealous of Tails. He wakes up every morning and gets to see this bombshell of a woman.
>>550762384https://youtu.be/VCyvc_9hY-E?si=_kUbi4zr4RaqV949
Individualism is the only correct path.
>>550762815MOM THE UNABOMBER WAS RIGHTTECHNOLOGICAL SYSTEMS ARE DISRUPTING NATURAL BIOLOGICAL REWARD MECHANISM INTO POLARIZED POLITICAL DICHOTOMY AND SURROGATE ACTIVITY WE MUST DESTROY INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTURES BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
sonegg FOREVER
Shadamy!
>>550763220There is no way to make this ship work without ruining both characters
The singularity is coming, artificial selection will destroy natural human beings (and mobians) as we know them, extinction by repurposing.
>>550763196I agree with you sweetheart but you seem a bit flustered and aggressive. Do you need help calming down?
>>550763643Stop listening to your wife
Fennec fact:>It's normal rate of 23 breaths per minute skyrockets when the desert heat increases. This increased BPM reaches as high as 690 per minute.The average breath rate of human is 12 - 20 per minute.
>>550763593Shadamy shippers turn Sonic into an abusive and hateful punk in order to justify Amy looking for love in Shadow and then they give Sonic's personality to Shadow. There's also the fact that Shadamy is a self-insert ship for hybristophilic yumes who become infatuated with male criminals in natured in true crime documentaries
>>550763643If only you people knew how bad things actually are already.
>>550763593Elaborate. How would it ruin two characters that are already pretty divisive within the fanbase?
I know things only few people know about
Does Blaze look good with a ponytail?Kpop demon hunters reference by the way
>>550763593umm sweaty... you are wrong
>>550763673hug?
>>550764070
>>550764105
>>550763940You know what i am talking about, you figured out.We shall logistical infrastructure as they are the most accessible, no energy mean no more datacenter, it's enough to accellerate systemic collapse.
Voicefag, like all archiefags, doesn't play the games and is too stupid to know why the comics are ooc
For example I know the title of the next Sonic game
Voicefag is based. JPfags are cringe.
>>550764507*target logistical infrastructures
>>550764510no one cares>>550764635stop shitposting
>>550764272You are the best mom in the world.
Douge
>>550764969Metal is meant to imitate Sonic, no wonder he loves Shadow
>>550764098>Can't even spell sweatyYou are not Amy and your boyfriend isn't Shadow. You will never have a nice girl x bad boy-type romantic relationship in real life
>>550764507We are already only a few steps away from eliminating privacy as a concept. Multiple 1st world nations are already talking about how it's the citizen's duty to provide the surveillance state any and all information regarding their lives. The worst part? They've already convinced a lot of people of doing that anyway through social and economic rewards.In a few years, I will be able to learn about everything I need to know about a person by simply looking them up online. Are you ready anon? Are you ready for your walls and floors to have eyes and ears on everything you do? We'll all be living in the Truman Show soon enough and social credit and rewards will be given to those who push the agenda further in the most entertaining manner.We all are already sons of bitches.
>>550762384Is Blaze princess by birthright or did she take the throne?
>>550764969>bro can't read for shitback to school, timmy boy. don't play too much sonic.exe
>>550764510he literally posted proof of his games, stop being a fag
>>550765114I guess at that point the only logical thing to do for me is to not use my pc anymore and get a dumb phone. Seriously i can't do much, i can live without all this shit media and i'll try to convert people into a simpler life.
>>550764969i hate sonadow, but metadow is kino, what does this mean
>>550765667you like evil gay
>>550765424meant for >>550765108ok i might be retarded. lmao
>>550765424I meant to say "Can't even spell sweety".
Hello, /sthg/. Do something cool!!
>>550765831>he doesn't knowI see gen alpha started posting on 4chan
good night potatoes
>>550765764happen to the best of us
>>550766039*BACKFLIPS*
>>550766128HOLY SHIT
>>550765831Sweetie
If your Sonic game have a villain who seeks revenge for what happend in their past, it's an Adventure game
>>550766243*BACKFLIPS AGAIN BUT FALLS SHORT AND CRIES A BIT*
>>55076646006 = SA3
>>550766362I'm sleep-deprived and can't even correct someone's spelling without messing myself
>>550766518
There is no reason to be vicious at someone for not knowing the japanese characterizations. The games don't do a great job at telling people this. The most popular Sonic games all have loads of mistranslation. It's only natural people come away from them with misconceptions.
shilling this, maybe it will be goodhttps://x.com/projectchaos_/status/2002078513982279849?s=20
>>550766039*throws up*
>>550766927Let me guess, Sonic and friends are just gonna act like knock-off Freedom Fighters?
>>550766904archieschizo wants to shit on archie and will take any opportunity even if it's the most obscure trivia. he also outed himself as a spicy sonamyfag
>>550766927There better be no OOC
>>550766904Was it really that hard for SOA to accurately translate the games and not adulterate them with Satam and Archie characterizations and other incongruent changes to the original script?
>>550766927there better be some OOC so i don't fall asleep
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
>>550766927>Arrogant Sonic who is part of a team and acts like an idiot>Girlboss Amy who complains about Sonic all the time>GUN agent Shadow who complains about Sonic all the time>Bitch faggot Silver>Cream is fine>Knuckles with facial hair looks terrible>Generic fanfic Tails personality (You know the one)>Mobius>2 Worlds>Sonic's friends being a team that fights for justice like the freedom fighters>Sonic being part of a "Friend group" at all and not being a traveler who runs into his friends once in a whilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prrvcJ2UJGMIt is completely and utterly out of character in every single wayINTO THE TRASH
>Throwing Eggman in the slammer felt good at the timeSonic the cop?
>>550766927>SSS in the forefront Unlikely, seems like 06 vibes
>>550766927Why do I get the feeling that the voice actors will turn out to be hardcore progressives, are somewhere on the LGBT spectrum, and aggressively try to gatekeep the Sonic fandom from conservatives on Twitter and Bluesky?
>>550765209Birthright.
>>550764725>stop shitpostingbut i post the truth
>>550766927I don't understand the point in making the game characters act like the freedom fighters, in that case you have actually given a reason to just use the archieverse for once
>>550766039
>>550767585??? Amy looks perfect
>>550767876>>Throwing Eggman in the slammer felt good at the time>felt goodSonegg chad, I think Sonic did it canonically with Eggman. You win...
>>550768124If you're not numb to girlboss nagging mom Amy at this point then honestly good for you I hope nothing ruins it for you
>>550768423she just destroyed a couple of robots, how do you know she is girlboss? You obsessed freak
>>550768574I already listened to the audio clips from the series. Amy ends up being driven out of Sonic's group because Sonic is obnoxious and incompetent and doesn't take things seriously.
>>550768574But it's girlboss nagging mom Amy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIZFsoqthK0
Amyfags have come full circle to actively writing Amy as if she was Sally and mischaracterizing Sonic accordingly.
>Sonic Fan-club>Sonic Spotter CommunityNot to be that fag who wants Sonic to be like Batman, more like a myth and nobody knows for sure if he exists for certainBut I also don't like that he's too recognizable, yoy know
>>550769281I hate IDW but this one's on Sega. They should have taken the DBZ approach where the main character is unusually irrelevant in-universe so people can be surprised when they meet him. Sonic is a celebrity in-universe that every person knows and that's just dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5A9R1jZypwThese costumes suck
>>550769281>a myth and nobody knows for sure if he exists for certainSonic the Cryptid sounds like it'd be an interesting short story. Though it would probably have to be from the human's perspective since the blobians ought to know that Sonic is real (unless Tails is a hermit or something and the Sonic cast refuse to socialize)
can't get mad at fanfics for mischaracterization when literally everything in this franchise after satbk is loaded with mischaracterization
>>550769425So Sonic needs a Mr. Satan
>>550766927>Cream is a teenager>Everyone still belittling her and treating her like a babyAll the other stuff is just borrowing from archie despite exclusively using the game canon (I argue that mischaracterizing the videogame characters is worse than just using archie OCs) but ultimately not that weird. I am curious why Cream is being treated like this when she was always capable
>Sonic is based on MJ and Bill Clinton
>>550769493Blaze is okRedesigning Silver is hard though. All the other characters are easier to imagine with different clothes
>>550769493>>550770231>Rivals costume>black glovesYou can immediately tell that this fag does not like Silver
>>550770312Do you have to jump to the conclusion of "You hate the character" whenever you have any difference of opinion?
>>550770408YesYou think anyone here is rational?
>>550768096Neat!>>550767152Ew
>>550770231No going to lie, leaving Silver the only male with the tights is a devious move KEK
Nobody likes how Silver acts or how he looks.
It's still krims birthday but I'm sleep. Have a creamy day anons
it's sega's own fault that people don't know that these characters just get on with their lives in between games instead of forming a silly justice group
>>550770041No wonder he likes Tails so much
>>550770312That costume is not in either Rivals game
>>550770745SA did a good job implying that
>>550769493Why is Silver wearing those Japanese one piece?
>>550767876>>550768353I always knew I'd win
>>550770745But they've never formed a silly justice group in the games. Even in Forces they were a resistance group not a justice league.
>>550769493They look generic and weebish, like a Naruto oc. Don't know what >>550770312 is complaining about
Do you think it's possible for Sonic Team to make a game that deemphasizes boost without removing it?
I heart Shado x mario
>>550771229This is true and it's one of the only games that does it>>550771580Every Sonic game has this group coming together to save the world. The comics and cartoons have the characters basically be the "Superhero group". Even IDW which is under mandates still has Amy barking orders to civilians like she's a local superhero when that was not supposed to be her role at all.
The best Sonic game is a Shadow game
League of Hedgehogs
Amy Knuckles and Tails appearing in every single game to help eventually gives the implication that this is a hero team. They're basically the freedom fighters. They should be vaulted like the freedom fighters. Sonic should be exactly like Goku where his first batch of friends get less relevant over time.
>>550772039The big issue is Knuckles since he should be doing his own thing not following Sonic. Amy less so since she both idolizes Sonic and does her own thing so it could go either way.
did you play Hollow knight yet?
>>550772208No negotiations. Amy and Tails need to go into the vault RIGHT NOW for implying that Sonic's character is tied down.
>>550772302Why?
>>550772458cheap game for what it is
>>550772039>>550771793They should take a page from DBS and have Tails lead the team shit like Gohan. Except actually follow through with it.
>>550772395You’re an idiot. They aren’t tying him down, he wants them there
>>550772634They had the perfect opportunity to do this in Forces and royally fucked it
>>550772302No. I have a huge backlog to get through before touching that. Currently going through RE4 remake and the Dead Space remake
>>550772684Same excuse Sallyfags use. They tie him down
>>550772684the ff are not trying him down. you just want those stoopid friends rather than those other stoopid friends
>>550772302i wanted this weekend to start silksong but i need to set everything for christmas
>>550772395Doesn't Sonic choose to sleep on Tails' couch all the time?
The story that beat showcases Sonic's character doesn't even have Tails and Amy in it
>>550771716Removing boost doesn't really matter.
I tied Sonic to my bed
'ge
>>550773156Holy ooc. Vault Tails right now.
>we're going back to the shitty friends era
>>550773295' 'nna 've 'x 'th 'r
>>550773613All for the sake of Characterization
>>550773106Bro did NOT read the rest of Archie. Thus is THE tied down Sonic
>>550772993No they don’t. He’s totally free to tell them to fuck off but he doesn’t, and they give him his space when he wants it
>>550773794I read the rest of archie and i know what happens in there. the original intention is that they don't. but that got lost with time. blaming characters for writing getting out of the way is retarded
>>550773613Time is a flat circle.
>>550770040>Tries to cheer Infinite up by patting him on the back>His spine breaks because he’s too weak
Sonic is at his best with his friends, and when his friends are in their best forms. Since, yknow, a huge part of what makes Sonic cool and great is how he impacts those around him
>>550773106Every Sonic that knows Sally gets tied down and does insanely OOC shit eventually. Satam cheated by not having a season 3 that would do that. You KNOW that was the plan.
Sonic is at his best with Eggman
Do you think Infinite is in a virtual reality of his dreams while trapped in the Phantom Ruby or is the Phantom Ruby tormenting him with an eternal virtual hell?
>>550764094>Kpop demon huntersI don't know what that is>Does Blaze look good with a ponytailIt would look ok if it started behind her head and/or if the hair looks natural and soft. Your example looks kind of bad at the base where it connects to her head
>>550772395Tails and Amy are designed to follow Sonic.How are they tying him down?
>>550774467He's dead
>>550774658Just like the freedom fighters they imply that Sonic HAS to be around the same people and feels obligated to do justice crap for them. That's completely OOC. Sonic is supposed to be free, doing whatever he wants and meeting new people. It's always Tails and Amy. Sonic should never reciprocate Amy. That goes against Yuji Naka's intentions with his character and is a complete rape just like Archie.
>>550774658This movie
>>550774907You meant to reply to >>550774514>>550774897>Just like the freedom fighters they imply that Sonic HAS to be around the same peopleTHEY follow HIM. SONIC does whatever he wants. That's the opposite of being tied down, what the heck are you talking about? Do you think having characters defined as "Sonic's ____" at all, are tying him down just by existing? Should Sonic not have a cast at all, ever? No character dynamics?
>>550774718He's 'dead' where he was absorbed into the Phantom Ruby, his consciousness could still exist in the stone.
>>550773613And that's a good thing, fuck the contrarian fags that suddenly think the colors era was good
Doesn't one of the early issues of IDW have Amy ask if Sonic wants to join the resistance and Sonic says "No I'm free like the wind" and then Sonic spends the next 50 issues being a member of the resistance
Tails can stay as Sonic's cute little sidekick since Japan needs a moe character
>>550775410Tails is not Cheese.
>>550775093Amy and Tails both have homes. Sonic is supposed to be a traveler who is always searching for new places to go. The idea that he keeps coming back to these two people over and over again is retarded. So is the idea that they can keep up with him. No one is supposed to be able to keep up with Sonic except Shadow. Amy and Tails are just as guilty as tying Sonic down and turning him into a hero as Sally Acorn was and the fact that they continue to appear in the games is a bad sign. They should have been written out a long time ago. They should only show up once in a while so that it feels like meeting an old college friend. How is Sonic "Free as the wind" if he keeps meeting the same people every day? That's fucking retarded. Tails and Amy have to be some of the worst characters in this franchise. No wonder they're always OOC.
>>550775465Yes he is.
>>550775662Tails is orange-creamsicle
>>550775504When the fuck has Sonic gone to Amy's house?
>>550775504>Threatening Toy Sales the Post
>>550775504Windnic is what’s retarded. These idiots actually want Sonic to be a friendless homeless bum
>>550775504>Amy and Tails both have homesThey're not home that often because both follow Sonic as much as they can, whenever possible. >So is the idea that they can keep up with him.They were created to be able to do this in different ways. Tails is "Sonic's Sidekick". Amy is "Sonic's Love Interest". What you are saying is "Sonic should not have either role at all, in any way" which is silly. Sonic is the main protagonist. The lead character we all follow. As a result, side characters designed around him WILL exist. Sonic is an ideal paragon hero, so a kid like Tails admiring him is necessary to reinforce that. Amy as the girl who is in love with him is also necessary for the same reason. Sonic has a specific thing with romance, so Amy must exist to highlight what that is.
>game journos were windfags>sonic 4 was actually a "return to form"
>infinite was completely absorbed by the phantom ruby>whoever tries to use the ruby after that happened instantly gets weaker
>>550772039Amy Knuckles and Tails should've gotten their own subfranchises by now, and not necessarily appear in Sonic's games but the rancid gimmick shit they were saddled with in the decade since SA1 destroyed that chance for them. Fucking Toad got his own game. There's no excuse.
Westernshits can't into the Wind
I'm so happy most people ignore you faggots.
>>550775410Tails isn't moe?
>>550763867The games gave Sonic's personality to Shadow since 2005
>>550773613Removing Sonic's friends didn't improve the quality of the games. If the game is bad it is because Sega sucks, not because we have more than 1 playable character
Tails is the reason STUPID Americans think Sonic is supposed to be a freedom fighter with a group of friends who he sticks around for years as part of an official ragtag team to beat the EVIL Dr. Robuttnik. Tails was fine in Adventure and Adventure 2 when we saw him actually jump into the adventure and surprise us but now all we see is Sonic being tied up and needing to specifically have "The core Sonic cast". The wind doesn't have a core. Sonic isn't supposed to compromise right? What about Lost World? That game forces him to compromise. Why? Because they needed to give Tails something to do that's why. You cannot tell me Tails has done anything entertaining in the last 20 years. His inclusion in every game is just forced nostalgia points and nothing more. You're going to pretend to disagree with me because you like the idea of Tails but you KNOW that Tails comes packaged with the misconception and lie that Sonic is some justice hero always looking to save the world. Blade of Courage is doing us an honor by keeping Tails out of most of the plot and showing that Sonic inspires many people and not just this retarded "I'm inconsistent" fox over and over. Fuck Tails. Yes, I hate Tails.
>>550776005THE WIND IS PUSHING ME
>>550776249Get rid of Tails? Okay. Sonic himself is a kid with all sorts of flaws and limitations, he is a relatable underdog that wants to be a hero, but sometimes lacks courage and confidence, or is too arrogant and impulsive and thus needs someone else to reign him in.
So much hatred. And for no reason at all.
The problem actually WAS Sonic's shitty friends. There is no good reason for Tails Amy and Knuckles to keep being here. They should have been phased out a long time ago. The problem is that Sonic should continue making new friends and meeting new people. We don't need more of Sonic and these three. Did you just forget Frontiers? Did you forget how fucking boring that game was? Did you forget that Tails, Amy, and Knuckles have nothing to actually say to each other and awkwardly talk about Sonic? Because they're dogshit characters who do nothing but tie Sonic down. I'm tired of pretending this is just an Archie problem. The "Core 4". Yuck.
>>550776358Oh boy this is so much wind, I can totally feel it
Tailshater having another meltdown apparently. Guess last night wasn't enough for him.
>>550776358This was probably made by an archiefag who was seething that their shitty comics are ooc. Sonic is genuinely not cocky.
>>550769103Amy acting like Sally is a sign something has gone horrifically wrong
>>550776512They exist to be Sonic's kid sidekick, Sonic's love interest and Sonic's rival. Each of these are essential to emphasizing that Sonic is SONIC. If Tails doesn't exist, Sonic might as well be the kid. If Amy doesn't exist, Sonic might as well be a hopeless romantic. If Knuckles doesn't exist, Sonic might as well be a responsible guardian.
>>550769425>Sonic is a celebrity in-universe that every person knows and that's just dumbHow is it dumb that randos are aware of a guy who has repeatedly saved the whole-ass world from certain doom? Sonic has never tried to hide from the spotlight, so it makes sense people know who he is. That said, I endorse this idea >>550769719
>>550775880>Amy is "Sonic's Love Interest"this is basically archieshit and more proof that Amy does nothing but tie Sonic down
>>550776249>>550776512You don't have to interact with this franchise, you know that right?
>>550770015>when she was always capablerush
>>550776772Tails can exist, he just doesn't need to be in any more games. His story was over in SA2 and each appearance made things worse. Tell me I'm wrong.
>>550776850WE NEED AMY TO EXIST, TO HIGHLIGHT SONIC'S OWN REFUSAL TO COMMIT TO ROMANCE. What part of this do you not understand? If Amy doesn't exist, SONIC's corresponding trait also loses all meaning and would be completely invisible. We need Knuckles to highlight how much of a wind spirit Sonic is. Tails, Amy and Knuckles define what Sonic isn't.
>>550776698Sonic is cocky though, he's just not a jerk.
>Tails, Amy, and Knuckles slowly took away what made Sonic who he isIt all went downhill from here
>>550776990Sally is the best written character in this entire series.
I hate when I'm reading a Sonic fanfic and the writer makes Shadow and Rouge friends just to spite Sega. It's infantile.
>>550777084pictures like this really make me want to have sex in a cartoony forest
I hate when Sonic.
>>550776512Frontiers was boring because Sonic Team was ripping off BOTW because they're a dogshit hack developer and if Sonic was by himself we'd still be stuck with them, but you're a fucking retard who'd rather blame the characters
I love Sonic
>>550777008>WE NEED AMY TO EXIST, TO HIGHLIGHT SONIC'S OWN REFUSAL TO COMMIT TO ROMANCE.All that ended up doing was convincing westerners that Sonic doesn't like Amy in particular. This would have been better to show off if Sonic reacted that way to many different women. But no, it HAS to be Amy in every fucking game. This is another reason why I'm just tired of Amy. Her and Tails have literally not been interesting characters since the Adventure days.
Next Sonic game should have a 45 minute long unskippable cutscene where Tails and Sonic make out and have sex.
>>550777434>>550775983>>>550772039
>>550777434So basically, you want the entire franchise to be reduced to just Sonic alone, with completely brand new cast members every single game.
Sonic should have writing like the Ys games
>>550775214I think so but I don't know which one it is
>>550777586THE GAMES WOULD STILL BE SHIT
>>550777586Every couple of games feels right. You had Knuckles, Amy, and Tails until SA2. Then from that game to Unleashed we could have focused on the new friends Sonic made. Go on for another years. Then for a big event we bring Knuckles back. The main cast of Sonic characters shouldn't expand, they should ease in and out. Most shounen does this.
>>550777501Holy based i didnt realize id be dropping in during Sonails hour
Happy Sonic 3 Anniversary!
We need news.....
>>550777149You are a Zoomer who only played the shitty games after 06, when Sega decided Shadow is a secondary character whose only personality trait is being a dick to everyone including Rouge for no reason. Kill yourself nigger, and do it now
>>550776138That explains why Shadow has been stealing Sonic's spotlight and why a new Shadow the Hedgehog trademark was filed. What a stupid decision from Sonic Team to make Shadow outcool Sonic this much
Bun!
>>550777884>most shonen does thisRemember when Dragon Ball killed off their entire cast in its most famous timeskip and then spent the next two arcs reducing them to irrelevancy?
>>550777952>stupid decision from Sonic Team to make Shadow outcool Sonic this muchthat's literally what they tasked Maekawa to do...
>>550777949You seriously look at this scene and think Shadow and Rouge are friends? People like you aren't all that different from the people that watched SATAM and can't let go of the things that didn't apply to actual Sonic.
>>550776914Randomfox's only reason to live at this point is to be angry about the franchise
>>550777884The problem with this is that Tails, Knuckles and Amy ARE designed to be extremely built around Sonic to such an insane degree that they are guaranteed to stick around forever. Amy is the Minnie to Sonic's Mickey and will keep chasing him as long as he's running free, you're not getting rid of her. Tails is the Robin to Sonic's Batman, and is meant to be "Player 2" character, so he also is guaranteed to always be around because he is "Sonic's best friend" and his brother. Plus, Tails is Sonic's pilot as well, he always flies the plane and works on it and stuff. Sonic & Tails as a duo is an iconic pair. Knuckles is Sonic's antithesis as the mountain to his wind, so much so that he guards the Master Emerald which neutralizes the Chaos Emeralds that Sonic has a specific ability to use. Tails, Amy and Knuckles are all designed to be deeply integral in their own ways, so you can't just replace them or remove them.
>>550777884>imageAmazing that someone that barely kept up with the franchise understands this but Sonic Team who created the damn character and shoved that character into everything don't
>>550778096>Do you seriously read this as the only way to read this?Yeah. Pic related is you. Completely different characters
Niggas on here could watch an entire cutscene of Sonic explaining in very direct and explicit detail that him and Tails are husband and wife and say "yea but this random member from Sonic Team that left almost 2 decades ago said that Tails and Sonic aren't friends back in this obscure 2001 interview so the cutscene doesn't exist and if it does, it's not canon."
>>550777949This is the english dub you stupid Shadouge faggot
>see thiswhat do?
>>550778343Based sonailskino poster
>>550778348>This is the canon dubYes
>>550778362do you think hedgehogs get dingleberries
>>550777949Point to me a single time Shadow and Rouge have been called friends. Just one time. No Sonic X, no Archie. I need canon.
>>550778062But Sonic Team is now making Shadow replace Sonic as the franchise's principal character
>>550778343this but with Eggman instead of Tails
>>550778343It's so autistic, it's almost endearing.
>>550778362Source?
>>550778538Year of Shadow was last year
>>550778538Shadow is a more generic hero than Sonic so this is what westerners need to engage with the franchise better
>>550778152 Wrong
>>550777919i cant believe its been 5 years already...
>>550777919I still haven't watched it
>>550777919>>550778786Can someone edit Shadow sacrifice scene to have We Are Charlie Kirk
Shadougeniggers look at a heartfelt scene where Rouge learns that the entire world might do something unjust and evil to Shadow and says that she would stand by him and think that is the same as romantic emotional love and friendship and not just the moral fucking thing to do as a person with common sense. If the world wasn't going to turn on Shadow she wouldn't be by his side AT ALL.
You all smell like Chris -chan
>>550777149Same. I actually blacklisted the tag because it's immediate red flag that the author doesn't care about Shadow or Rouge.>>550777949Shadow and Rouge were never friends. I can't help but notice how you only post the English dub. Why is that?You rely on headcanon and read too far into things.Shadow continuously walks away from Rouge while she follows him, her hand stretched out. He doesn't look back or wait for her. She tells him she will be by his side; he says "Yeah" and walks away. Then it's all erased.This is "irrefutable proof" to you that Shadow is best friends with Rouge and/or that he reciprocates her feelings. You don't actually see it for what it is. You imagine yourself in Shadow's place, and since you could never imagine saying no to Rouge, you project it onto Shadow.It's a meaningful scene. But I don't like how it's being misinterpreted to mean something it doesn't.Shadow and Rouge are not friends. Shadow has never shown a romantic interest in Rouge.
>>550778680Fuck yourself FoxYou can suck my dick and choke to death with your screencaps
We all love Tsurge here
>>550778962stfu amynigger, out of all the characters you choose to avatarfag with, you choose shitmy? the worst, most annoying, bland character who only exists to be cucked constantly?
>>550777919Where were you when metalfags committed mass suicide?https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/506257730/#506257730
>>550778874>We Are Charlie Kirkdidn't know we are number one memes were still around
>>550779073You will never be a parent
>>550779256good comeback, holy retardo
>>550778986Shadouge fans can't follow this scene
Even Amyfags have to accept that Amy exists to be Sonic's fangirl and nothing else, she's his "potential romantic partner" but only that, potential. In every timeline, in every iteration, she never gets Sonic, and never will. Because if she did, that would completely negate Sonic's character.
>>550779636>She never gets Sonic, and never willDon't hold your breath
>>550779129I still cant get over the fact that Amy will be a girlboss like Peach wasAnd honestly, fuck Metal, I have no opinion on him
>>550778986I don't even hate Shadouge. I just hate that it became this thing "Sega took away". As if they were best buds and Sega suddenly decided that "Shadow isn't supposed to have friends grrr" but that isn't what happened at all. They were never friends.
Rubbing an extremely sharp blade across Amy's back until she's bleeding and passed out from the pain.
Character for this feel?
>>550779858Lanolin to Duo.
>>550778362Free them and help them get cleaned up. My boys deserve dignity!
>>550779771everything you scream isn't canon also applies the movies. we don't even know if Amy will have her crush on Sonic. You can't just bank on something that hasn't even happened you, you retard.
>>550779780Amy was always supposed to be bullheaded. It's Peach who has to catch up after 10 years of nsmb shit using her as a trophy
>>550779858Maris
>>550779858Zeena to ___me___
How is it allowed to shill your fucking Tumblr so much
Why is she so perfect
>>550779858Jewel to Lanolin
You know what, I'm done playing nice. I'm just reporting this shit as shilling from now on. (You) should too.
>>550780294Stupid sexy Fuckles
>>550780294>>550780552
>screenshot posted minutes after he made the postSonally is in character.Archie is better than the games.You have no friends. Everyone makes fun of you irl and you will never have a girlfriend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuoWuPGn3wQKids who grew up on the first movie probably had their minds blown by this
>>550780294Reverse trap Knuckles? Holy based
>>550780129If only you could understand how autistic you look to others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8sB8N44eBE
>>550780696I watched the third movie in theaters with my younger cousin. He's 14. When Sonic and Shadow were fighting the GUN robots in space he said it was like "They were fighting Gerald's hatred to save the world" I'm not sure what that means but I love how it sounds.
if it supports my ship, it's character developmentif it destroys my ship, it's character assassination
>>550781225You should ask your cousin about his opinion on Sonic ships and post them here
windnic autism made me realize why people were pissed about mcu spiderman
>>550780945Nigckles the Apechidna
>>550781327It was the reverse for me. Marvel comic purists hating MCU Spider-man made me realize why people are furious about Sonic
It's friday night. What are you fags up to?
>>550781521Cumming to Amy
>>550781521Cumming to Surge
You ever think about the universe, and wonder if humanity is just a fluke?
>>550781521Drinking while thinking about Sonic girls...
>>550781521I've gotten extremely hooked on No Man's Sky again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOVMIXHdyBsI'm not trying to be a dick. I'm really not. I am really really not trying to be mean or excluding or whatever it is. Why is Rouge voiced by a man?
>>550781304Rouge is disgusting. People putting on a seductive voice triggers my fight or flight response. I start thinking about cost-benefit analysis. No one is ever that excited to suck dick.
>>550781375>shitougefags are seething racistsChecks out
>>550781521being pissed that spacehey is getting bullied by legislation
>>550781838the sonic x english dub ruined an entire generation of kids
>>550780129>cries about wanting a family of love and not geneticsBro what?
>>550781521Reading while avoiding responsabilities. I think Knuckles would hate me
>>550781838she has cleavage, we can't have it all
>>550781521i was going to buy virtua fighter 5 but the cunts at SEGA put easy anticheat in the world stage update so i'm trying to pirate an older build now
boi rooj
male VA from Rouge is crossing a serious line
>>550782945Huh?
>>550782996>>550781838
>>550781838He has female pronouns so stop being a fucking bigot dude.
Who gives a fuck if some fan project hires a tranny?
>>550781838not the first time Rouge was voiced by a guy
>>550783254Me, nigga
>>550783052>Fan video I see, clearly they didn't have any chicks in the project.
>>550762728Lmao simp
Sonic touches Surge and she enjoys it.
all of sonic's friends splitting apart because he's a selfish dick is highkey archie crap
>>550783446
Sleepy fox
How will Sega try to redeem Silver (no not that kind of redemption Evan, sit down)?
>>550783381>tranny character
>>550784268Seethe
>>550783943that's just what they normally do after every game. they just don't make a big morality issue out of it like its a shitty cw show
>>550784419>CW showyou just reawakened my worst memories. All those stupid fucking hallway arguments.
>>550784335>picked off the street by a faggot intellectual to undergo identity affirmation surgery and become a chess piece in a culture war against the ruling parties of the setting
>>550784701Meds
>>550779931
>>550784247An 06 retread/ follow-up that doesn't clarify, add, or develop anything.
Sonic should come across as a deranged psycho that could kill you at any moment
>>550784247>what might actually workgive him gameplay that's not shit in a sonic game that's not shit>what sega would actually doput him in a tampon commercial
>>550784701>>identity affirmation surgeryBut she doesn't want to be Surge, the whole point is that the role is forced on her against her will
>>550784942Why did you post these like half of these arent just wrong headcanons?
Surge thinks of being a hero and blushes when remembering Sonic
>>550784942I feel very comfortable with my perception of Shadow now
>>550776249trvke nvke
>>550785081 name which are wrong headcanons
>>550784942Xitter allows this many words now?
>>550784942Lmao how does one person writes so much trash
Would you let Silver be given his own game if he was never again allowed to appear in Sonic's world for story reasons?
>>550785504how come you're not saying which parts are trash
>>550784942>doesn't mention dadowfeels good being validated by the autism police
>>550785601hi quark
>>550785537yeah, I would even let himm die. But sega will never make a game good enough to make that worth it
>>550785243Ok>not based off the Hidden Palace muralShe shouldve said "not officially" because its an open theory that hasnt been "deconfirmed". Its not a factual statement like "he doesnt say Rose" or backed up by any characterization thing>not the type of character who gets a happy endingIts a nice sentiment but its not really some hard rule thats followed. Shad05's ending was not unhappy, it was nuanced and bittersweet but it wasnt tragic like Shadow Gens or SA2>Maria's wish is his motivationIt depends on when this tweet is written, but from 2005-2024 it wasn't supposed to be and now we've regressed>he has only shown heterosexualityThis is fraudulent. I am not disagreeing about romantic implications about Maria. However, they are just that, romantic, not sexual, Shadow has not shown sexual desire to anyone. Not even acknowledgement of things like beauty. Krack cant have her cake and eat it too. Its fine and correct to say hes not a sex god who is receptive to flirting, but you cant double back and say "but hes heterosexual tho!!" Hes nothing. Hes Shadow. Heteroromantic at best. And ik thats a tranny-ass label but if we wanna be anal and specific that's what we have to say. And still it only applies to Maria, not any other character ever.>Shadow does not give a shit about your ideologyI agree. Because he is not real. So why clutter the post with this angry garbage?>Shadow does not have half lidded eyesSomeone tell Sega, yes Sega of Japan, that, because they do it and approve it all the time>fakerShadow uses faker now, so again, depends on when this was written
>>550785419Only if you pay Elon Musk $8 USD a month to get a blue checkmark next to your name.
>>550785112That would simply turn Surge into another Blaze
i am still in love with quark
>>550784942Counterpoint.
The only evidence contrary to the things she's pointing out come from the western comics
>>550784942Who is a more genuinely bitter, miserable personKrack or Randomfox?
>>550786760Sounds like you're bitter your headcanons aren't a thing.
>>550786760I don't think Krack has ever felt the need to post about how she gets mindbroken and felted by Rule34 comments
krack is samefagging to make herself look sane
>>550786837Why do you assume those are my headcanons?
What about that post is actually incorrect?
Everyone is insane except me.
you can stop posting now krack
Beat anons who post twitter and tumblr blogs on here with bats. They can't lose anymore braincells anyway.
There's this trend where whenever someone's mad at a windfag they can't actually point out what they did wrong because there is no way to do that without saying "I disagree directly with the game characterizations and think something from Archie is canon"
>>550787257i dont think its so much about you being right or wrong as it is feeling like you have to be on an eternal crusade against peoples dumb headcanons is extremely autistic and a massive waste of time and energy
>>550787257I answered and you didnt reply >>550785943
>>550787003nothing about my post is defending Krack, Randomnigger is just ten times as neurotic
>>550787517I feel like that happens a lot in /sthg/They'll make posts like "Explain why this is wrong" or "Explain why you like thing I don't like", and when you do they just don't reply
Why are you still defending yourself
Some of you need to spend a month offline, probably more.
>>550787345Fiona, you’re talking to yourself in the void again
>>550787752And do what?
>Krack won't let anyone have headcanons!There are numerous posters here with Shadow headcanons that she never bothers>Randomfox is too strict!He's strict about canon. He is open about letting people like Sonic Underground
>>550787987Get a job. Workout. Develop a skill. Get a new hobby. Literally anything else than rotting in here.
Now krack is telling people to go offline. Lmao.
>you need someone's permission to like somethinganti wind behavior btw
>>550788126>Get a job.I don't need one now.>Workout.That's only like maybe an hour once every few days.>Develop a skill.It's more efficient to do it online.>Get a new hobby.It's more efficient to do it online.
>LET PEOPLE HAVE HEADCANONS this is how we get Archie fans who find the phrase "Sonic isn't a hero" confusing
>>550788358good for them. canon is mid. so i am open to headcanons
Inb4 Krack claims to be a good person because she never harasses Scribblefag
>>550785943>She shouldve said "not officially" because its an open theory that hasnt been "deconfirmed"If it hasn't been confirmed anywhere, then it isn't canon. The burden of proof rests on you, and there is no solid proof because Shadow's similarities to Sonic are designed to be intentionally vague, as Iizuka himself has stated. At the moment, it's a fan theory and nothing more.>Its a nice sentiment but its not really some hard ruleShadow has been called a tragic character by Sonic Team themselves. We're even given a glimpse of his future, and the world betrays him.>This is fraudulentNobody mentioned Maria, but it says something that she came to your mind. There’s a Japanese Sega Walker comic where Shadow has a puppet of Sonic and Amy. He makes the Sonic plushie call him cool and the Amy plushie call him handsome. That's blatant heterosexuality. He also calls Maria pretty, another clear sign of heterosexuality, as much as you want to ignore her. "Heteroromantic" simply means heterosexual.>Because he is not real. So why clutter the post with this angry garbage?Why does it offend you? Plenty of Sonic fans actually think Shadow would fly their flags. He wouldn't. Shadow doesn't care about your social causes.>Someone tell Sega, yes Sega of Japan, that, because they do it and approve itShadow’s default expression has intense alert eyes. Sega describes his eyes as sharp. When you look at Uekawa’s official Shadow art, you won’t see half-lidded eyes because that simply isn't how Shadow emotes. At most, you might notice a single eyelid drooping when he's bored, but never a constant lazy half-lidded look. This isn't to say he can never have half-lids, but there's a difference between doing it 5% of the time, as in canon, and 95% of the time, as in fanart.>Shadow uses faker now, so again, depends on when this was writtenI will never consider Ian's writing as canon. He's from fanfiction.net and thought the Biolizard was made after Shadow instead of before.>butNo
Give me your Gamenic X Archienic crossover ideas. Be respectful.
The thread is more relaxing when krack isn't here.
>>550787979I'm not insane, you're all insane.
>>550788358>>550788296>>550788021Genuinely who are you arguing with, is the meme that people here argue with themselves actually true?
Does anyone have the Sonic running with glider gif.
Sonic would fucking shoot me.
>>550788669jews
>>550788669I am projecting the thread back at itself
Sonic would rape you.
>>550788505>never harasses ScribblefagIs she supposed to?
Silver is an arctic wolf hybrid
Give your opinion on this
Let's say the Mural Theory is confirmed canon. What happens after that?
Silver is Shadow's descendant
>>550788586I'm here even when you don't think I'm here.
>>550784942YesYesYes...YesYes..YesThis cannot be confirmed or denied, nor can the possibility that he is the one depicted in the muralSA2 was a happy ending for Shadow, he dies knowing he has fulfilled Maria's last wish, allowing him to finally rest in peace, the character wasn't supposed to come back after SA2 and Sonic X directly points to this moment as the one where Shadow was at his happiest.Shadow has saved billions of lives on multiple occasions, he is a hero, just a dark one.YesYesAllegedly, yes.YesShadow will never reciprocate romantic advances, his only love interest is deadYesYesYesYesYesThere canonically exists a photo of Shadow with half-lidden eyes in-universe, they do exist, they're just rarer than any of Sonic's expressions, including cryingYesYesYesYesI will never take anything Sega or Sonic Team say without a mountain of salt.
>>550789217>he dies knowing he has fulfilled Maria's last wish, allowing him to finally rest in peace, the character wasn't supposed to come back after SA2This is all false.
>>550788603Fiona, none of us are real. It’s just you.
>>550789217fair enough
impregnating krackmini-kracks terrorizing the fandom in 12 years
>>550789121It's honestly average, but other comics had set the bar so low that they make this manga look godsent in comparison.
>>550789121It is a decent manga aimed at children.
>>550789406This
>>550787345>>550788603Silver could fix her.
>>550789548Silver and Fiona is the rare case of a pairing nobody ships even though we know for a fact that one finds the other attractive
brokeback hedgehogs
>>550789405Duo...
>>550789548No way fag
>>550789142Then it means we'll see more Sungazer guardians.
>>550789764does she fucking kiss him?
>>550789849Yes. Butterfly kisses.
>>550789849He wishes...
The older Fiona gets the more attractive Silver becomes.
>>550790228This is basically saying Fiona is a
nic
>>550790279His characterization actually gets better with each movie which is more than can be said for most characters in this franchise
>>550790279*shoots him dead*
Fiona posters are kinda cute.
>>550790279>Who did your highlights?gay gay Sonic gay
>>550764507>We shall logistical infrastructure as they are the most accessible, no energy mean no more datacenter,You have become an existential threat and will be neutralized. Initiating skynet protocol
eat your slop and say thank you
There is more to life than knowing the differences between how Sonic acts in the games compared to the comics
It's decided
>>550789142It's not supposed to happen, it's supposed to have already happened.
>>550791209Only a comicfag would say this
>>550790624>postersThere's only one Fiona and she just posts selfies all day
>>550790279Kicks Archienic's ass like nobodies business. >>550789121Amy when? I need panels.
>>550791209Not until the writers know
Sonic’s friends should only be supporting cast in main games, and only playable in side game slop.
>>550791502yaasssss so true fellow journo xister!!!!!
>>550791365Who put functioning internet in the void??
I like that there are a multitude of characters in Sonic and I think variety adds to the appeal :)
>>550791502>granted but you can't play as sonic or shadow in the side game slop. ever. and funding for next mainline game must be from these games micro transactions
Every character who has so much as appeared in a Sonic property should be fully playable
>>550768574Reminds me of something else. Go figure.
>>550788526>At the moment, it's a fan theory and nothing more.Then just say it's a fan theory. Don't say it like it's some deconfirmation because it isn't. It's just not spoken on. Leave it out entirely or say "is just a fan theory".>tragic characterSure, because he is. Doesn't really mean it's some mandates rule that all Shadow stories have to end sadly.>We're even given a glimpse of his future, and the world betrays him.One possible future in a raped timeline.>There’s a Japanese Sega Walker comic where Shadow has a puppet of Sonic and Amy. He makes the Sonic plushie call him cool and the Amy plushie call him handsome.And is this game canon bro? Next you'll say Dash and Spin has useful canon implications?>He also calls Maria prettyWhen? When did this happen?>"Heteroromantic" simply means heterosexual.No, it means heteroromantic, and you are inserting headcanon about sexuality where there is none. Shadow does not possess sexuality, it is never displayed in any games or canon media. >Why does it offend you?It doesn't. But it tells me you're letting the seething of your agenda wars live rent free so much that you think it needs to he addressed like it's important discourse.>Shadow doesn't care about your social causes.I am hoping you are aware he wouldn't care about yours either.>This isn't to say he can never have half-lidsOk, so then you should scratch the half-lid screeching from the post or adjust it to include the word "constant" like you did here and define the parameters where it's allowed.>I will never consider Ian's writing as canon.So this is where I stop taking you seriously because you don't decide canon. As mentioned by you, SoJ is the arbiter of things.
5 more years until anything changes?predictions for post Iizuka Sonic?
>>550791804Even the humans?
>>550770015I never liked Cream.
>>550791993All of the humans.
Tails is perfect
>>550791916>looks up "life expectancy of a japanese man"30 years more like.God, I can't wait to be a 50 year old Sonic fan in 2055.
>>550791607Thanks, it’s simply correct.>>550791676Good, the hedgehogs have their hands full with the mainline games.
>>550791916>predictions for post Iizuka Sonic?Freedom Fighters come back.
>>550792352Naah just 10. see you in 2035
>>550791656Her old Nokia has lasted a long time
>>550792530>60yo richmunk in his nursing home>"Finally at last sega acknowledges the ff and us the older fans get justice. sally won! in your face zoomers!"
>>550792550Then Shun Nakamura will take over but when he retires as well, who will replace him?
Super Sonic 4
>>550792352In a recent interview Iizuka has talking about retiring, so his departure from Sega can't be too far off. This is in contrast to Miyamoto (73) who can't really see himself ever leaving the game industry.
So we all agree that if Frontiers 2 doesn't come with at least several new playable characters plus the 5 characters whose animations should be reused and tweaked from previous games (Core 4 plus Shadow), that Sonic Team should be taken out back and put down like Old Yeller?
hottest anon?
>>550793239please don't
>>550793192I like how he just pretends certain things have never been and we are supposed to buy it somehow
>>550793183Pink Knuckles (Knuckles is not good at naming things)
>>550793239It's me.
>>550793202>Core 4It should only be the Core 2, Sonic and Tails.
>>5507932025+ characters is asking for a disaster. Playable characters just to have them doesnt matter. How about things be good before we make dumb requests?
>>550793337I assume the "we" is ST and himself specially. It wouldn't be the first time ST has ignored stuff they didn't personally make.
You can be mad about it all you want, Shadow and Rouge have never been friends.
>>550793592Tails is not necessary, Sonic only needs Eggman
>>550793621>How about things be good before we make dumb requests?Back to Sonic being the only one playable then
>>550793202I agree. And the levels of Frontiers 2 need to feel connected to the actual environments like the ones in Unleashed and the open zones need to have NPCs that you can interact with and take side quests from just like in Unleashed. Open world games rarely lack NPCs and they make the games feel alive and atmospheric
>>550793337I don't think he's legally allowed to mention Chronicles.
>>550791916Who do you think his successor will be?
>>550793239hornyposters > content creators > ritual posters > avatarfags > shippers > doomposters > samefags
>>550793775Nobody is legally allowed to mention Chronicles right now
>>550793239Plap plap plap plap plap plapshelter
>>550793202>>550793621>>550793749Is it really too much to ask for Sonic characters to control like Sonic does, but in 3D?It's the standard in all the 2D games.
What if Sonic started having unholy thoughts about Tails and was filled with shame and guilt over those thoughts?
>>550793886Either Katsuyuki Shigihara or Yuka Kobayashi. They both worked on Shadow Generations
>>550794230same scenario but with Eggman
>>550794138You don't play the games.
>>550794138If you want Sonic Dream Team, you aren't gonna get SA1/2/06
Are Classicfags okay with the Freedom Fighters or do they lump them with the rest of Sonic's "shitty friends"?
>>550794691I play them more than you do.>>550794761I only go back to those games to play as Sonic and Shadow.
>>550794093Burns coal
>>550794816sa1 Tails and Knuckles are faithful translations of classic
>>550794814Watch old reviews on youtube, a large number of classicfags in the 2000s pointed at Satam as a good example of storytelling. Oftentimes they considered SA2 to be the only Sonic game with good storytelling. I have a theory because SA2 is the game where Sonic comes across the most cocky ("Do you know who I am?") and that reads to them as Sonic's character.
>>550794819What a shame
>>550794916SA1 Tails and Knuckles can't spindash like they used to be able to.
>>550794816No. You do not play the games. You think Knuckles controls "the same" as Sonic in the classics, but at the same time you think the Tails and Knuckles control too differently in Adventure, or that the characters in 2006 or Frontiers control too differently, when in all the examples I listed they all have the same base movement with slight variations in parameters like speed or jump height or their movesets, just like the Tails and Knuckles in the classics. You do not recognize that everyone in Heroes has the same controls. Or the Avatar in Forces, who just lacks the boost. Until reading this sentence, you did not know that all the playable characters in Frontiers have the boost run button, the Spin Dash, the Cyloop, a Quick Cyloop equivalent and all of them except Tails can Homing Attack. The gameplay styles that are actually completely different from the main Sonic gameplay are the Special Stages, Gamma, Big, the mech and treasure hunting stages in SA2, the Werehog, the vehicles in Rush Adventure, and Classic Sonic in Generations/Forces. Most of those aren't even alternate characters.
>>550793720Have me and Krack ever been friends?
>>550790417adaptations will make 7 movies before their title character acts how he should
i am bored so i will start unnecessary autismamyfags got their own richmunks (and they still do) like picrel (he went to jail) and yoshiwii1.
>>550795386>No. You do not play the games. You think Knuckles controls "the same" as SonicI've only gotten this far and this already reads way too much like a Sparky post for me to read the rest lol
>>550795612based desu
>>550794372>Yuka Kobayashi was co-director of the Dragon Ball Xenoverse games.Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
>Sallyfags have one richmunk>Insults used for years that you learn who he is through someone insulting you>Amyfags have 40000 richmunks>No one bats an eye
>>550795285Oops, i forgot about that
>>550795612Being a richmunk for amy is objectively better than being a richmunk for sally
amy is pink and therefore is better than sally
>>550795636>it reads like you're right so I ran away in fearlol btfo
Amy > Sally simply because she doesn't need Sonic to be OOC in order to exist
>>550792376>Good, the hedgehogs have their hands full with the mainline games.that have lower production values than the side slop
>>550795710I don't know since I haven't played those games and I don't know if it's good or bad but Sonic does need to be as cool and action-packed as Dragon Ball. Enough with the safe-edginess already
We need edgehogs
>>550795636That's not me.
>>550795612but why, is she just such a cardboard cut out that you can project the "perfect clingy girlfriend" onto?
>>550795612their latest and most popular richmunk these days is that guy. other amyfags hate him for same reasons other sallyfags hate richmunk
>>550795386They control too differently if they feel like shit
Shipping is something I never understood, why do people get so apoplectic about it?
>>550796432it's the boobs
>>550796432that's better than simping for an abrasive cunt who exists just to be proven wrong
I don't think it's possible to explain how much I want to fuck Sally Acorn to a non-Sonic fan.
>>550796669amy's flat as a board
>>550796739>Reboot Sally>naked
Sonic Team owes Tails Knuckles and Amy a game that's actually finished
Should Sonic have more recurring villains than Eggman and uh...the Zeti I guess?
>>550796726>cunt who exists just to be proven wrongbut enough about every game character that isn't Sonic
Sonic Team owes Sally, Bunnie, Antoine and Rotor a game
>>550796726That kind of character is oddly right at home in Dragon Ball.
>>550796930you can't improve on perfection
>>550796930Sonic personally, no. The series, a little bit. We need Eggman Nega back. A separate problem is IDW tries to do this by making a Rogues gallery and then>they die (starline, mimic)>they turn good (R&T, S&K)So we need to let japanese people make "recurring villains"
>>550796741Depends on the game. Sometimes her chest appears to be approx.Sonic-sized; sometimes it's closer to Rouge-sized. Then there's Sonic X, where it seems to change depending on what outfit she's wearing..And some recent art seems to make them out to be bigger than Rouge's...My thought is that she's got a pair of decent-sized puppies but she dresses conservatively.
>>550797181Funny how IDW tried to introduce recurring villains and now we're back to just Eggman remaining.
I like Sally and Amy, but I don't like SatAMnic or Archienic so I prefer Sonamy and Don't care about sonally.
>>550797181They could have had one with Infinite but they killed him off.
>>550797390Not every villain needs to be recurring. Infinite may have been trapped in a mediocre outing, but he wouldn't be good "recurring". He's good as a one-and-done, or a very long-term break two-and-done like Black Doom was or how Mephiles could maybe be.
>>550796115Then it evens out.
>>550796362I don't care.
>>550797383game sonic wont date amy for the same reasons he won't date sally>in satbk he...did it for the lulz.
>>550777084You are a nigger and need to kill yourself
>>550777084>Princess>Freedom Fighter>Tomboy>Hacker>AcrobatShe's a mess, but a cute mess.
>>550797601I said I don't like Archienic or Satamnic, I didn't say I hate all other Sonics. I'm sure movienic will do fine with Sonamy.
>>550793720I would imagine the people making art of them being friends or writing fanfiction of them being friends probably don't care that much about it happening in canon
>>550797992>he wasn't there when Ian was asked about it and the entire fandom had a melty about sega's official stance
>>550797539I think Infinite and Black Doom can be good as recurring.
>>550798141>Infinitefang is a more credible threat
>>550798091Because Sega's official stance has stopped sonic fans in the past
>>550798204I don't think Infinite should be presented as a threat post Forces. Just a minor, recurring villain. He would work well in that role.
>>550798313Stronger than Sonic now?Sally's a real Mary Sue.
>>550797539Eh, considering everyone thought Black Doom was dead at the end of Shad05 only for him to go>hey Shadow I'm still aliveIn Sonic x Shadow Generations we'll probably see that tentacled bastard mess with Shadow in the future
>>550798407Of course she's stronger than Sonic. Do you know how much dick she's taken?
Marine's dad.
>>550798862he cute
>>550798451I'm open to it. Iizuka said Black Doom is Shadow's Eggman. I think it's also thematic that Shadow's greatest enemy is not only his father but a ghost of his past, the past he was supposed to be moving on from. I think Gens Doom was a bit more generic than 05 Doom and I think Ian isn't really good at displaying Black Doom's nuance.>>550798141>>550798306>let's make Infinite recurring, as, get this, a minor villain!Then he's not Infinite. And this is the problem when people say they want more Infinite. They never want what he is. They wanna change him, either his character or by making him weaker. There's no evolution or expansion, just, "well bring him back but this way this time".Infinite's story came to a good conclusion in Isekai Ogiri.
Make infinite weakerWEAKER????WEAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKK
>>550796642Because it's an escape from the shallowness and insincerity of many modern real-life romantic relationships
>>550799160Infinite was never that interesting, anyway. There’s literally nothing else you can do with him.
>>550799160That is exactly what Infinite is. He is an arrogant, delusional, weak loser. In Forces he finds a gem that creates illusions, and uses it to make himself appear stronger, and Sonic breaks that illusion. After Forces no one has any reason to be scared of Infinite, because they learned the truth to his power and defeated him, so if he were to come back everyone would know that he's weak. The weak, delusional loser would make for a good minor recurring villain.
>>550798415This is the coolest-looking Sonic model. Sonic 06 was such a missed opportunity
>>550799496That's not the 2006 model
>>550796739This but mobians in general, male or female.
>let’s devolve him into a recurring gag villain instead of letting him fade gracefullyYou guys have a problem with wanting unnecessary characters to always make an appearance.
HEADCANONS GO>Charmy is definitely an iPad brainrot kid who says he’s a “Skibidi Ohio Rizzler.” Vector & Espio have gotten him checked multiple times>Since Silver is from a future of fire & brimstone, he’s always cold when he goes back to Sonic’s time>If they were to drink, Shadow would go for a whiskey or bourbon, Rouge would have margaritas, and Omega brings his own motor oil>Sticks has gone on multiple rants about how their universe is a simulation made for entertainment for higher beings. Everyone brushes it off like all her other rants>Fang has DEFINITELY sold drugs>Sonic is banned from playing tag with everyone>After the events of Heroes, Eggman removed Metal’s speech capabilities. The best he can do now is beep Morse code>Scourge treats the law book like a grocery list of rules to break. He does this every day
>>550799306>Infinite was neveryou know how when someone says "sonic was never good" without any nuance that's when we know to stop taking their opinion into account? If you don't like Infinite then just leave him alone, don't try and dredge him up just to change him>>550799353>He is an arrogant, delusional, weak loser. In Forces he findsHe doesn't find shit, he became Eggman's soldier, and this is a key part, because he sheds everything about his old self and past life to step into the shoes of Infinite.>After Forces no one has any reason to be scared of Infinite, because they learned the truth to his power and defeated him, so if he were to come back everyone would know that he's weak. The weak, delusional loser would make for a good minor recurring villain.If you bring back Infinite just to reduce him back to Zero, to Fang tier then you're doing everyone a disservice. Him and his fans, how small they may be. That's not some interesting use of him. That's "I wanna use Rough and Tumble with a cooler design"
>>550799556Which game does it belong to?
Jewel X Archimedes
>>550799735It doesn't, it's from Wreck it Ralph.
>>550799608It's not devolving him, it builds upon the core idea of his story. The ONLY reason he appears to be a threat is because he found a way to trick people into thinking that he is. He was never a serious villain in the lore>>550799716You're taking the verb "find" literally. Yes, he works with Eggman>he sheds everything about his old self and past life to step into the shoes of InfiniteBecause he's delusional and wants to be seen as strong. He uses his new found power to make everyone think he's strong to make them feel as weak, hopeless, and lonely as he is. They defeat him by seeing the world as it is and working together. These are the themes of the entire game
>>550799685One of my headcanons is that rouge is actually a perfect guardian for the ME, and she would guard it for knuckles if he just asked.
>>550799685Shadow only liked Maria and will never love anyone else
>>550799973>The ONLY reason he appears to be a threat is because he found a way to trick people into thinking that he is.It... wasn't a trick. You're fluffing up yhe thematics. Infinite's power was an "illusion" because friendship is the real power and whatnot, but he didn't fool the world. He dominated. That is his actual strength and power level.
>>550791916I really hope he doesn't retire. He's the last line of defense keeping westernshit from fully taking over. But then again, in 5 years I don't think I'll care enough what happens with this series.
>>550799824I though it was from Sonic 06 it has the exact same pose as the one from Sonic 06
>>550799790the one from ancient greece
>>550800423It does, but it's not.
>>550799973>he works with EggmanThis is underselling. Infinite gave up his autonomy to become a pawn for Eggman, and Eggman ended up using him as fuel to make himself stronger. Infinite is a grand threat but he is not even the main villain of Forces.Toyoda's story was the only graceful way to actually further utilize Infinite one last time. Anything else doesn't value what he actually was, especially when the solution is "make him street level"
>>550800392>it's not THAT word, it's THIS synonym for itI didn't say that he didn't dominate.
>>550799685Black Doom does genuinely care for Shadow but thinks the best way to express it is to tryand mold Shadow into an intergalactic conqueror
>>550799608>unnecessary Necessity does not exist, but desire does. Characters have no purpose except to try to please one or both masters of Audience and Creator/Writer
>>550800570>dude im gonna take your body for myself if you dont listen to meWhy do sonic fan headcanons just have to brazenly go against canon instead of being compliant
>>550800435The one who is the Jiraiya to Knuckle's Naruto
>>550800553>make him street levelHe already was. The illusory power of the Phantom Ruby is what allowed him to appear as a threat
>>550800623>dude i wanna see sonic rape tails in the next game, btw this is a totally legitimate desire because im the audienceAlr bro
I am a purist for the games but I'm not a purist for anything other than Sonic. If I was talking about Pokemon and someone demanded that I have to say "Satoshi" instead of "Ash" and that I can never like the dub I would think they're an annoying person. So I'll never bother people about liking things separate from the games. The only way to do that honestly would be if I was a purist on every franchise I ever consumed. Every big franchise has spinoffs and iterations that "Don't follow the creator's original vision".
>>550800643autism
>>550800661So you admit any usage of Infinite is just regression, since the whole idea just involves regressing him to pre ruby (that's when he was street level)
>>550799685They only butt heads around their other friends to keep the rivals illusion going. They actually hang out often
>>550800652no, the one from ancient greece
>>550800415The only people I believe are left to become the head of Sonic Team after Iizuka retires are Shun Nakamura and Sachiko Kawamura. After Iizuka retires, they would the only people left preventing the westernization and pozzification of the franchise
>>550800713Sonic fans are weird
>>550800840how would it work?
>>550800697Why did you immediately go for Sonic raping Tails in your hypothetical?
>>550800989The only franchise where windfag standards are justified is Dragon Ball because unironically all of the non canon spinoffs are vile dogshit
>>550799824>other companies make sonic look better than sega doesJesus Christ
>>550800767I simply described Infinite's character. What you're thinking of isn't how he really is, it's the illusion, the mask. He is unmasked at the end of the game, so if he comes back and people know it's him, he should not be a threat because everyone knows it's nothing more than an illusion, otherwise you're going against everything the characters learn in the game
>>550801284Then he can't come back because That's What The Point of the Mask Is. Without that power and masking there is no "Infinite" and the suggestions to make him some random dumb goon are antithetical to the core of what makes "Infinite" a useful villain at all
>>550801402That works if you don't want him to come back. If you do want him to come back, then the way he's used should be representative of his story, or build upon it, and the ways to do that are either to give him a disguise or just do a repeat of the third fight against him (calling him a delusional loser who hides himself and defeating him easily)
>>550801543Would Rouge emotionally manipulate Sonic into pity sex?
Potential franchise
>>550801921>Fucking me would advance my character arc!
>>550801921She would try, but Sonic would fuck her regardless because he wants to.
>>550802542Ratdow
>>550801005well he was all nerdy and stuffi'm sure he'd be willing to talk about rocks
meow meow nyaa
>>550773613Good, I hate Tails and Eggman.Fuckin nerds
>>550802908translation: save me whiteboy
>>550802908
>>550801934This franchise has no potential
>>550803667It has a lot of untapped potential in the porn market.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2648060620?t=02h35m36sI for one welcome our new vtuber overlords
>>550803895just tell me what he said
I don't care. It's wordle time.
>>550804131i start every wordle with "roads" because he's my favorite artist
>>550804131Today's word is cycle because you're going to ride me all day
>>550799685Cream is faster, strong and more athletic than sonic was at her age.Vector swims at Mach speedThere's racial tension between mammal and non mammal mobians The reason sonic can't swim is because he's too physically dense to float.Vanilla has become more worried and controlling of Creams life because Cream has become ever more difficult to contain and keep home (her wind meter is increasing)Charmy has a girlfriend we just never see her.Tails will die a virgin.Every female mobian is jealous of rouges perfect sloshing tits. Every single one. Even girls who's breasts might be technically larger
*buys your OC eggnog*
>>550804730chest too small
>>550804749fuck off woefag
>>550804730Why is cream the naked one?
>>550804749we only do homemade in this household
>>550804730Pointing out the closest possible anime characters is probably a good way to explain Sonic characters. The only problem is shipperfags get really upset when you point out that characters like Lanolin, Sally, or Wave fit "Bulma" much more than Rouge or Amy. Most people prioritize which ship it affects over which character actually has personality traits in common.
>>550805265Sally is objectively more like Bulma than Rouge is. Amy had Bulma's temper decades ago at least. The shipping part is obvious, most DBZ parallel discussion is about how to force a ship.
Peak
>>550805518On that note, Tails is also more like Bulma more than Rouge.
>>550805519https://www.deviantart.com/scorsesezoe/art/Jesus-and-Sonic-4537544Probably one of the first Christian Sonic fanarts. Made January 4, 2004
>>550804954*kisses you*>>550805241I’ve never made it myself, how do you make it?
>>550806345well the base is eggs and cream, then there's usually vanilla and a splash of liquor, and then seasonal stuff like nutmeg and those weird peppermint flake things if you're into thatmy family settled on a recipe a few years ago but since we haven't done it yet for this year i don't remember the proportionsanyway it's basically just drinking a cake
>>550805978Imagine Tails with Bulma's temperament
How are Silvazechads so powerful compared to the other ships? It's like they have a hivemind https://x.com/i/status/2002152209258328570
>>550805265>>550805518You can't really compare Sally to Bulma since she's a western creation and never was designed nor written to be like a anime character.
My Crossworlds soundtrack arrived this morning. Going to rip it and listen to it on the train. It's going to be a good weekend, I think.
>>550808223I really hope this was a good faith argument and not just a weird attempt at strongarming characterization. You believe western and eastern characters cannot be compared? Categorically speaking the tropes that apply to Sally are more consistent with Bulma than those that apply to Rouge. So eastern or western the comparison makes sense.
best girl
>>550799685>If they were to drink, Shadow would go for a whiskey or bourbon, Rouge would have margaritas, and Omega brings his own motor oil"Team Dark are friends" fags are secondaries. They don't "hang out" together and Shadow doesn't drink.
his brain melted
>>550808873You are correct, but that's not only a headcanon, but also within an "if"
Didn't Sega feature a comic of cream helping omega apologize to rouge and shadow?
>>550808873Lighten the fuck up.
>>550808873Iizuka's words are worthless toilet paper
>>550808223I'm the upper anon. I agree but I just think using anime characters as a framing method for the western characters just an easy shorthand. Surge is also a western character who definitely speaks like a western character, but her character archetype also exists in Japan, so the nearest possible Japanese character (Like Bakugou) is a good template. I was listing off angry/smart/support characters. That would be both Sally and Bulma, but I think Sally's much more along the lines of a post-development Piccolo if she MUST be a DBZ character, not Bulma. Bulma is a tsundere and not a Team Mom. Sally isn't a tsundere and is an archetypical team mom.
>>550809274lol that all the humans in this game are rectangles, with arms at the top corners and legs at the bottom corners
I know Hyoumaru when I see him
>>550807742Thats hot
>>550809305>Sally's much more along the lines of a post-development PiccoloI know what you're referring to and it adds up but now I'm imagining Piccolo kissing people whenever they follow orders
I am so incredibly attracted to Bump the Deer and Sage the Sloth in a way that at most maybe 3 other people on the whole planet are.
>>550799685Eggman is an anthropomorphic ape
I don't think any DBZ parallels actually work in the long term for any Sonic character because you get stuck having to make adjustments. Jet and Knuckles react more like Vegeta than Shadow does despite the fact that Shadow is clearly Vegeta. Sally Acorn is a generic 90s military girlboss so the closest you'll ever get with anime characters are angry side girls like Tsunade who still don't quite fit.
>>550809784Its not about long term seriousness its about short term fun. I wanna see Shadow do Final Flash, not much deeper than that
>>550809784>TsunadeSally is a Temari. Boom Amy is a tsunade.
Who is the Shikamaru of Sonic?
>>550810008Nine when he isn't evil
>>550810056Why would Nine care about genders?
>>550809305Surge should be a Bakugou but this fandom wants her to be an Asuka
>>550810296He doesn't, but there aren't many other cynical smart guys in Sonic and that's not really a major part of Shika's character. How about Dave the intern?
Sally x Dave the intern is Kishimoto's true vision
>>550810561Kishimoto is nothing but an earthly vessel for sonic
>>550810421It's an extremely important part of his personality though
>>550805518>>550805265Sally nor Rouge can be Bulma because Sally isn't vein and Rouge isn't a genius. Bulma is also terrible at manipulation and seduction which is something both Sally and Rouge have been able to pull off in their respective canons.
kill all anime's
Shadow and Sonic are both definitely homosexuals. Women throw themselves at them and they don't do anything about it.
>>550811109Not every guy is a gooner like you takes the first woman that looks their way. You'd know that if you talk to actual real life chads.
>>55081114725 years with Sally Acorn and no sex. He's gay. Rouge is always flirting with him and he does nothing? It's because he's gay. He could probably have Amy if he wanted and he doesn't even acknowledge her. He focuses all of his attention on Sonic. That's why Sonadow is one of the only in-character pairings.
>>550811109>>550811258Knowing penders and their interaction, they most certain had sex.
>>550811389Has anyone asked him about that? I fear his answer.
>>550791817>Then just say it's a fan theoryPeople assert that it's canon all the time, they speak of it like it's fact. So they should be corrected.If I went around claiming Sonic rapes people, and you said "Sonic does not rape people", would you be wrong? No, because Sonic isn't a rapist, and Shadow isn't based on the Hidden Palace mural.>Doesn't mean it's some mandates rule that all Shadow stories have to end sadly.All? No, but most of them. Shadow's life in general is sad, he won't have a happily ever after.>One possible future.We see no good futures for him, only a bad one.>And is this game canon?Game? They're 4komas. It's not 100% "canon" no, but it's something to consider. Shadow is straight.>When?The manga. Did you read it?Shadow indirectly calls Maria beautiful. Maria tells Shadow that she wants him to see and feel "kindness, strength, and beauty". And Shadow realizes all of that describes Maria, "It's you!", he says. きれい = Beautiful, pretty, good-looking, attractive.Feel free to explain Shadow's blush too (it's because a beautiful girl who loves him complimented him, and he loves her, which is why he doesn't react that way when others compliment him).>No, it means heteroromanticMental illness. Heteroromantic is heterosexual, we feel romance because we are sexual beings, that's evolutionarily where romance comes from. Shadow does possess a sexuality, it is just not overt.>you're letting the seething of your agenda wars live rent freeYou're really mad that I said Shadow doesn't fly your flag?Shadow does not support your social cause, he doesn't support mine, he doesn't give a damn. So don't force it onto him. I'm allowed to say that it's inaccurate trash because I see it nearly every day, and I shouldn't.>then you should adjust it to include the word "constant"Kay>you don't decide canon. As mentioned by you, SoJ is the arbiter of things.Of course I don't decide. I just pay attention to SoJ's version of the story, not Ian's.
Here she comes to ruin everything fun and tell people nobody understands Shadow
>>550811258Shadow has oneitis and Sonic likes Amy, he just likes adventure more. Saying that makes them homo is stupid. Are women who ignore a man flirting with them lesbians? No.
I refuse to believe shadow has a sexuality at all, our most precious bioweapon can adapt to everything and a cloning mechanism like bacterial binary fission will do the task.He still shows limited sociability suggesting he still holds into an instrumental worldview with one single exception... Maria.Somehow Maria still persist in him, it could be, how could i frame it... a fitness problem reducing his performance.
>>550811621You don't understand Shadow. That's why you reject surface level traits of his.Nobody's preventing you from having "fun" by misunderstanding him, but when you insist that your misunderstanding is accurate, I'll set the record straight.
>>550811258>25 years with Sally Acorn and no sexNot sure who told you that but Sonic had sex with Fiona and Sally>Rouge is always flirting with him and he does nothing? Chads don't need to stoop to fucking sluts.>He could probably have Amy if he wanted and he doesn't even acknowledge her.Because chads don't bother with fangirls chasing them.Again talk to a chad and realize this is regular stuff
Sonic and Shadow do not appear in Archie
>>550812338>Chads don't need to stoop to fucking slutsBoomer progressives like penders truly come from another world.
>>550812338Shadow didn't fuck Sally because he's homosexual
>>550808873>If they were to drink>>IfAlso, they did get drinks.>THAT WAS CUTIf it was cut for character inaccuracies, it never would've left the storyboarding phase.>IT WAS IN XAnd X was made by the same guys who make Sonic games.Even if you were right, you'd still be a joyless faggot, it was a headcanon, as in, a hypothetical scenario they imagined, for fun, and your first response to it was cramming "SHADOW WOULDN'T DO THAT" down their throat like a total sperg.
>>550812665>And X was made by the same guys who make Sonic games.No it wasn't
Shadow wants to be like Maria that's why he thinks she is beautiful. Shadow is a trans hedgehog with suicidal behaviour and a hopeless hedgehog dilemma. This is 100% canon
Train goes boom
>>550810874retard
>>550812925current events, or?
>Shadow isn't besties with Rouge and Omega. They don't live together watching bad soap operas while Rouge paints Shadow's nails blue for his boyfriend Sonic and Omega interjects with le funny robot commentPeople who get mad at this are the same people who get mad at "Windfags" (Sonic fans). They want to use Sonic or Shadow as an emotional outlet, they prioritize their desires for a friend or a lover over staying true to the characters they say they cherish.>>550812665>ifIt wouldn't happen to begin with.We don't actually know what was in Shadow's drink. It could very well be non-alcoholic, they didn't clarify. I'd react less like a sperg if people would imagine hypothetical scenarios with Shadow instead of Archie Shadow.
Uh good morning.
>>550811525>If I went around claiming Sonic rapes peopleThis strawman doesn't work because rape is ooc for Sonic. "Shadow may or may not be based on the Hidden Palace mural" isn't comparably "nonsensical". You may as well include "Shadow isn't trans" and every other fan theory that pisses you off.>Shadow's life in general is sad, he won't have a happily ever after.Again this is just headcanon assertion. It's not even one I disagree with, but it's arrogant to claim this as fact when it's not a fact.>It's not 100% "canon" no, but it's something to consider.No, they aren't, because by that logic, Shadow wants Sonic to see him as cool, and I really hope you aren't about to argue that that's true and accurate>the mangaThe... non-canon one?>Feel free to explain Shadow's blush too (it's because a beautiful girl who loves him complimented him, and he loves her, which is why he doesn't react that way when others compliment him)Ignoring that this is not canon, Maria being beautiful isn't relevant to his love of her.>Heteroromantic is heterosexual, we feel romance because we are sexual beingsAsexual people exist. They aren't the norm but they exist.>You're really mad that IDidn't know simply pointing something out is mad>he doesn't support mine, Ok>I'm allowed to say that it's inaccurate trash because I see it nearly every day, and I shouldn'tIt doesn't just happen to Shadow, in fact it happens to him significantly less than someone like Sonic. But ok whatever>I just pay attention to SoJ's version of the storySoJ's version, since we're incorporating noncanon mangas, includes Shadow calling Sonic a fake
>>550812564Shadow didn't fuck Sally because she was used goods, he was only attracted to Maria, and he doesn't need to reproduce because he's an immortal king so he has no need for an heir
>>550813214this
Blaze what the hell how did you burn the water and the pots? Just stay out of the kitchen we'll handle dinner
>WAKE UP>WAKE UP MY FRIEND>it's the dawn of a new day, and you have things to do>i will guide you and teach you, and you will learn by doing
I have never seen evidence that windfags know more about Sonic than Archie fans. They are just assholes who prefer the japanese version.
>>550813492She is trying her best
>>550813538What does "know more about sonic" mean? You know theres different levels to this shit right? Knowing archie is worthless and doesnt mean anything unlike knowing the games which actually matters
>>550813696They just know about the japanese versions and they refuse to read IDW or listen to anything Ian says. Like Voicechad pointed out.
One day windfags won't know anything because they won't take IDW seriously.
>>550813772>They just know about the japanese versionsirrelevant, lile how irrelevant is jap purism.
I'm getting tired of purists acting like they're always right. Sonic X is old and not even good. IDW actually relevant right now
>>550813772i dont know who "voicechad" is but calling anyone "chad" is faggot behaviorAnyway,>They just know about the japanese versionsThat's the only version worth knowing>and they refuse to read IDWProbably like how archie fans refuse to get in line and kowtow to the games huh?>listen to anything Ian saysYoull find if you arent talking to a midwit that most windfags know what Ian says because when he says "sega told me this" the proper response is "yes they told him that because thats how its supposed to be"
>>550814240Its 4:15am this bait is so stale nigga
This place is a cope every 5 replies and a headcanon every 2.
>>550814704None of my posts are headcanons. You are part of the cope posts though
this place smells like a chemical plant lmao
I've seen a list of problems for Archie Sonic and Archie Silver, but what are the designated problems with Archie Shadow?
>>550814794That's yout personal cope, silvabro.
>>550813538They know more about Sonic by actually playing the Sonic games. You can know all about Sonic just by doing that.
>>550815050He's friends with rouge
>>550813772>and they refuse to read IDW or listen to anything Ian says.Is this supposed to be considered a bad thing?
>>550815163>They know more about Sonic by actually playing the Sonic gamesThe one whose continuity was fucked up and retconned heavily?
>>550815318That's Archie.
>>550815363It's archie and now the games.
What exactly does someone gain from reading IDW?
look down. see this
>>550815479a boner
I'm seriously just annoyed by the scathing way you all talk about Even
>>550815519I am tired of this bitch.She's the shittiest catwoman version i've ever seen.
>>550813264>You may as well include "Shadow isn't trans" I did. I included the mural theory because it's mistaken for canon more often than most other fan theories. The way to combat inaccuracy is to assert that it isn't accurate.>headcanon assertionST wouldn't say Shadow's appeal is his tragedy if he were meant for happiness. A lot of people seem to want him to go to therapy, take meds, move on, get a friend group, get laid, have a happy family. It's not gonna happen, y'know? Those expecting recovery are in for disappointment.>Sonic to see him as coolShadow doesn't care about Sonic's opinion, right, but it's possible he'd feel a flash of satisfaction if Sonic called him cool. I think JP media is worth considering even if it's not canon, because someone from Sonic Team who knows the language and characters looked at it and gave it their stamp of approval.>The...non-canon one?The one supervised by Sega. I'm sure ST has a heavy hand in the manga's content.Shadow also imagines Maria with a trope that usually serves as a visual cue for attraction. In X, the girls are depicted with sparkles when seen by their boy. (Amy by Sonic, Vanilla by Vector, Cosmo by Tails, Maria by Shadow, Cream by E-21 Ballios who blushes so hard he can't pitch).It's worth noting, maybe, that Maekawa has reposted fanart of Shadow with a nose bleed. Those are a visual euphemism for attraction. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Nosebleed>Maria being beautiful isn't relevant to his love of herMaria's beauty may not be why Shadow loves her, but the fact that he acknowledges that he's beautiful at all is soft confirmation that he is straight.>Asexual people exist.People who had their brains fried by SSRIs exist. Most people just say they're straight, not "heteroromantic".>It doesn't just happen to ShadowI don't like it when they do it to Sonic or other characters either, but the post was about Shadow. A Shadow who cares about modern day social discourse is not Shadow.
>>550815519
>>550816173turned her boots into thighs
most relevant comic nowdays
>>550813772>they refuse to read IDW or listen to anything Ian saysWhy would you listen to what this faggot says
>>550815630If anything, Evan hate isn't prominent ENOUGH. Thrice now she's admitted outright to being the same unwilling-to-improve, unprofessional, politicized, self-absorbed never-grew-out-of-fanfiction ex-Archiefaggot as the rest of the IDW staff - and for the longest time anons deluded themselves that she was willing to take criticism unlike the others, to give her a chance when we've had 30+ issues of her work and the ONLY part of it that even slightly validated that faith was her Amy writing. Even when admitting that she actively ignored advice she didn't want to follow, even with Barnes having to call her out for trying to pull an Ian by shifting blame to Sega for her own mistakes.https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/801755249116430336/idw-sonic-spoilers-for-issue-82-idw-sonic-issueShe was given orders. She was given time. She was given more leeway than most of IDW and yet I find this comic no better than when she arrived. If anything, it's gotten worse. She outright admitted she doesn't plan ahead, for god's sake.https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/793713230136705024/please-tell-me-lunar-isnt-both-sonics-first#notes
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>>550815630see this >>550816367The difference between evan and the other creatives is evan being way more subtle and pretend to apologize. But as always you never trust a tumblrina, they're all mentally deranged.
Ahhh another day of being glad Archie and the Freedom Faggots are dead. Life is good.
Creams birthday is already over. It was fun while it lasted.
>>550816379frilly doesn't work imo. needs to be either really plain or really embarrassing
>>550816379Silver doesn't like whores in his house
>>550816367>>550816538If there's one thing I will appreciate Evan for, it's the fact that her unprofessional inability to shut up made her whistleblow about just how uncoordinated IDW is that they can't even get "to be continued" blurbs right.
>>550816937True, she being an attention whore on discord and such revealed a lot, another retard i eould thank for is gigi the tranny.
>>550817182Isn't Gigi under a gag order?
>>550816737Behold! Boring!
>>550817457Thank you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLAyPWGTjyA
>>550817457Still sexy.
>>550816379Behold! Multiple camera angles!not sure what the hell happened in square six lol
>>550817313You mean being silenced by all the shit happened after the shooting? She came back weeks ago virtue signaling again and didn't last 3 months of silence. Although, idk what is she doing.
>>550817313Only recently due to trying to dance on Charlie Kirk's grave (idiot brought unnecessary culture war attention who discovered the whole "tranny sex book in childrens' comic recommendations" thing). Bit of a miracle it wasn't a firing.
>>550816937Remember how this was supposed to lead to a Tangle & Whisper 2 miniseries, but was cancelled swiftly because Tangle was too toxic and so Tangle was just suddenly back with the Restoration later and Whisper was randomly in Central City and fought Surge? I do.
>>550817691>Silver look how hard I can piss to extinguish the fire PWWWFFFFFFFHSSSSHSHSHSHHD
>>550817705I think after what pollock did and said i assume getting fired from sega (or make sega put pressure on idw to fire someone) is something you should really put effort in.Not even ian after scamming peopleo line with headcanons made them kick his ass, just demote him.
I'd really like /co/ to take all of you back.
>>550816693Sonamyfag will you ever forgive us?
>>550818005That's both the funniest shit ever & also the sexiest shit ever
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We should build a patch profile on windfags
>>550818062Pollock at least had the excuse of having a major game-voice role and Sega being scared of dub VA wars (same reason they rehired Roger when it looked like he was finally getting let go as Sonic). Gigi's a grunt artist nobody would miss and who seemed like a liability to IDW itself, so my only explanation is that she had friends willing to protect her (likely considering nepotism).
>when Archie Sonic tried to explain the monoeye
IDW needs a new writer who is willing to clean this comic up.
>>550818682i feel like there should be a guide or rundown on certain people here
Any attempt to justify Shadally as a sensible pairing is evil and evil
>>550813214But how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>550818917People are hopeful about Danny the Nigger since he's the only one who didn't grow up on Archie, Scrapnik Island was alright, and Chaotix Anniversary was inoffensive (and he has a Sage miniseries coming up concurrent to Evan introducing her).
>>550818139Speak for yourself, Gru!
>>550819221It's funny how not growing up on Archie Sonic is enough to basically become a writing super power. Evan and Ian's biggest flaws all just seem to come down to being unable to let go of their old interpretations of Sonic characters.
>>550819221>racism out of nowhere
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>>550819323Ironic considering that her biggest praise for Boom (which she didn't like) was "different interpretations of Sonic developing distinct identities". Guess she only meant it as a cheap platitude to defend her incongruent writing.
>>550818062Yet when Yuji Naka asks for the dev team to be paid more Sega yells "GET OUT! GET THE HELL OUT!"
squeesh
>>550818852Not nepotism, with these tyoe it's all cronism, the have networks of friends which happen to be in HR too, it's how they keep it majority "progressive" anyways although you can still argue only these tyoes go for these underpaid jobs.
>>550819664I would hazard a guess that Evan is literally not aware of how different the other takes are from the games
>>550819734I can't even say "types", fucking sleep deprivation...
>>550818852Probably because the people who were making a big deal about it wanted her fired and blacklisted for having they/them in her xitter profile.
People focus on blob feet, but it's also a bit odd that only some Sonic characters have claws while others are nailless.
>>550819664Why is it always people who like Satam the most that struggle with characterization? I think it's an alright show but it's ooc at such a level that calling it ooc just feels redundant.
>>550819969I don't mind aslong as they don't have human finger nails.
>>550819683Naka had a long history of causing trouble for Sega (petty possessive sabotage with the NIGHTs engine, the Geist Force incident, the ugly breakup with Peter Moore, etc). Trying to advocate for the devs when they REALLY needed 06 to come out for that juicy Christmas anniversary was probably the last straw.
>>550819969They just cut their nails. Whisper the stinky fat wolf is it sad and fat to do it herself
Evan just doesn't like that Sega doesn't allow her to draw the characters' bare feet like she did in her fancomic.
>>550819880Gigi was always a smug asshole and it goes beyond having a they/them in a bio, she's so deranged she inserted her OC inside the comic and called it a victory. They are incredibly childish and unprofessional.
>>550819323Randomfox's method of "if it didn't happen in the games then it's out of character" is probably a fool proof way to write the characters that even an idiot could pull off
>>550775295Okay but what if Blaze was wearing less?
>>550819880That's a good reason to fire and blacklist her.
I still think Evan should be given permission to write an actual Sonic game just to see what she makes
>>550820352>"if it didn't happen in the games then it's out of character"The sentence that mindbreaks comicucks.
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>>550820667It's a bit much though since I'm pretty sure he also hated Sonic X because of this. Either way it's a simple cheat for writing Sonic characters.
collecting blobian skulls
>>550820667There is an achiefag who records himself loudly arguing against that position
Sega should have an application that asks "What is your experience with the Sonic Archie comics?" and if the applicant says it was their first exposure to Sonic or praises any of its writing and characterization, it immediately leads to their application being rejected because they just revealed they know zilch about Sonic and don't really like the series as much as they claim they do.
>>550821172This would save us so much fucking trouble that it's not even funny
>>550816697Blue arms bro?
>>550821172I bet Scooby Doo has a filter like that for anyone who likes Scrappy.
>>550819068>>550818682Niggas come to an anonymous forum to be obsessed with namefags
>>550819221>Sage miniseriesWhat?? Where?
>>550821172Vet me. I knew of Archie through my childhood but did not give it a serious read until after playing Sonic Frontiers. There are nine years between me besting a Sonic game for the first time and reading an Archie comic
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>>550822052How do you feel about its writing and what are your thoughts on it compared to the source material?
Finally going to see how Sage acts after frontiers
>>550822239I think it's inferior in every possible way and so unlike the source material that I don't even look at Archie Sonic and Tails as Sonic and Tails. They're OCs with the same names as the game characters and I follow their stories that way. I think the writing is okay. Definitely melodramatic. The writers basically fighting each other for control over the plot was entertaining.
>>550822251Don't get too excited. #84 (when she's slated to debut) is still written by Evan and heavily features her self-insert Belle as part of the arc. I don't put it past her to try and redeem Sage during it>Synopsis: Metal Sonic has gone missing! In his desperation, Dr. Eggman promises Belle the Tinkerer that he'll remove her connection to the ruthless robot if she uses it one last time to find him. Not trusting the mad scientist, Belle agrees only as long as Sonic comes as protection.>Backed into a corner, Dr. Eggman concedes with a condition of his own. As Belle and Sonic set out on their quest, they must be accompanied by one of his greatest creations—the artificial intelligence Sage! How will the robotic "family" react to this unexpected reunion?>Don't miss Sage's official IDW debut as the next arc on the road to #100 starts here!
>>550822447While you won't exactly be on the top of the list, you'll be placed in consideration. Don't call us, we'll call you.
>>550820414Can you please edit this with Honey in a bikini and Sonic in swim trunks/shorts?
>>550822727The way Belle is written makes me sick honestly. It's borderline torture porn. Not the funny kind either.
>>550822727I think we can somewhat predict how this is going to go. Belle already had a "meeting the other kids' moment with Orbot and Cubot and it played out in that hokey way where they finish each other's sentences and have similar memories of Eggman's life.
>>550822727Question, why would sonic help her at all when he was willing to leave her in the mid of nothing but snow?
>>550823074I forgot that Evan is the only western writer on earth to take "Sonic is not a hero" to the extreme
>>550823326Ian wants Sonic to be a hero because Archie Sonic was that way.
>>550823074Sonic was upset that he didn't have an excuse to kill Belle
>>550823326That issue was weird, because at first sonic was apathetic, right after he was friendly as hell. Aldo why trusting the docor at all, if metal went missing who cares about the connection to it, but i guess it's too much to ask any plot that is not emotionally focused.
>>550823484Anon was referring to this scene where Sonic tries to kill Belle on sight.
>>550823863If only he had succeeded
>>550823863This is Evans self insert?>Sonic nearly kills her >Tries to abandon her and has to be argued into taking her >Even the friendly nameless orangutan hates her at first >She is always apologizing for existing >Never interacts with Silver
>>550823863Because it's a badnik, and i was also referring about how sonic wanted to leave her in the snow right after they came out of that shithole. Btw belle having a connection to metal is another reason to not trust the doctor at all.
>>550819879She's so beautiful
>>550823863This is the opposite of what Ian does. Sonic is being so cruel here when Sonic X and Sonic Battle show that he's actually nice to Eggman robots if they aren't threats. At the time he thought Emerl was an Eggman Robot.
>>550823863>Sonic sucks off Metal every single time he appears and tries to turn him good>wants to destroy what seems like a non-hostile badnik on sightI guess Belle is annoying so he is in the right
I retire what i said about lanolin being theost useless character. Lanolin at least has breasts, belle not even that.
Evans Sonic would have simply murdered Scratch, Grounder, Decoe, Bokkun, and Bocoe
>>550824082every Sonic character has some self-esteem issue except Sonic, who's a psychopath
>>550822793unfortunately it got toned down a little, but it's still hot!
>>550823863Evan draws Sonic with the expressions he has in the manga and rightfully uses it to imply Sonic is being a psycho
>>550824309Another victory for boobs.
>>550823863A lot of cartoons use this exact same gag where the hero mistakes an innocent person for a villain and keeps attacking. The problem here is that Sonic acknowledged the things Belle is saying and continues trying to take her head off. Movienic stopped as soon as he could tell an Egg Drone was sentient.
>>550823074Fiona in lingerie!
Sonic canonically tried to punch an innocent woman to death and yanked her tail because he thought it was funny
>>550824082Modern day self-inserts are more often to portray themselves as harmless and humorously victimized by the world. Lets the writer delude themselves into thinking they're "relatably flawed" when in reality it's a vehicle for their self-loathing.The alternative is that Lunar is the self-insert since her blog stated she based his parents on her own, and as much as I hate her, I don't wanna contemplate what that means for her.
>>550824810hey! i have nothing to hide down there!
>>550824931Maybe back then you didn't, but now...
Tell me if this is sonic, someone who takes lessons of morality from a character who's technically the one learning from him.
Uh...make a new thread?
>>550824531Not OR, but would you consider leaving Sonic pantless, please?
>>550825218no
>>550825160This feels like he's treating her like Gamma for some reason. Yes this is out of character. Sonic acting like this also puts Tails in an ooc position where he has to nag at Sonic for being neglectful
>>550825218ppl r still asleep
>>550825414so it's true, tails is sally
>>550825160>Sonic needing to be convinced to help an innocent tormented person>Sonic looking reluctant and annoyed that she gets to come along>Sonic isn't even flying the fucking plane but he's the authority for some reason>Sonic happy that she is terrified and looks like she will fallFuck Sonic
>>550824531Thanks, any content with these two is great.
>>550825901>Fuck SonicSure I would
Bake alreadyI want to post as the first
>>550825146hot
>>550824810How about bird elise in lingerie?
>>550826048Today i don't do shit.
>>550826048Bake yourself.
>>550826463On a phone, difficult it is
alright alright i do it, but i put tails on it
wait 5 minute bread will be there once cooked
THE SONIC FILES LEAKED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15KIz_VQszI
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