Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals! EditionPreviously in /coopg/: >>550700798>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719Vermintide 2:Gifts of the Wolf Fatherhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>AcknowledgedDeep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotSCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>Go back to any other class after playing nothing but scummie for 50 hours>Feel slow and weak as fuck and not really any more survivableRemember that scummie is weak and needs buffs :)
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>550838125
>>550837763Bystander Effect.>"Someone else will do it."
>plebbitor posts a veteran guide>look inside>fucking serrated blade>says it's le good in havoc because it gives zealots and ogryn buffs>buffs they can trigger themselves because they shit out bleed anyway>doesn't take field improvI hate these fucking niggers so much I wish I could personally crush their throats
>>550839035post link
Didn't the blaze force swords used to have infinite dodges or am I going crazy?
>>550839221
>Field Improvisation>Ammo Crates also restore Grenades>Medi Packs heal 100% faster, cleanse corruption, and replenishes 1% toughness per secondSome people just don't read or understand. The "most liked" veteran build on gameslantern skips this talent.
>>550839371can't play with a boner sah
>retard in team almost ruin the entire run by being a nigger>look steam profile: Estonian>second game, another retard almsot ruin the run again by being a nigger>look steam profile: Croatian>next game, Steam profile: RussianI start to see a pattern...
>>550839761Just don't play on heresy.
>>550839371That's Zelda you fucking mongol
>>550839867>The Legend of Zelda>it's the adventure of Link>The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link>it's the legend of Zelda
male toon:>dudebro>casual noob>it's just a game dudebrofemale toon:>tranny>autistic>egro gives 110% effort
>>550840206>toon
>>550840206Can you speak english instead of internet ebonics?
>>550839371This seems kinda gay ngl desu and I don't like it desu desuwa.
>>550840741what makes it gay to you?
>>550839835Believe it or not, Auric (EU)
I started playing on this newest big patch that made the crushers have 2x the health from before. I think it's kind of annoying that every weapon or build I make has to be centered around them entirely. Was the game more fun before when they were easier to kill?
>>550840946>I think it's kind of annoying that every weapon or build I make has to be centered around them entirely.>Was the game more fun before when they were easier to kill?It was exactly the same before. You just went from 1 shotting them with the good weapons to 2 shotting them, meanwhile all weapons that struggled against carapace were still collecting dust.
>"medcrate here" (I already carry one)>I tag the medcrate>team keeps goin>"hey medcrate here pick it up" on voice chat>nothing>I tag the location and keep sayign "medcrate" on voice chat>nothing>add the "eye" icon>still nothingI just left..I...I can't...
>>550841223>be me>start new operative>playing prologue because it's funny seeing your custom character in cutscenes>load into an uprising game with hive scummer>clearly new decked out in deluxe edition cosmetics and completely aimless>decide to just tag along and follow the lost puppy>tag a heretic icon with 'enemy here' tag>stands there for 5 fucking minutes just looking at itAt this point I genuinely got suspicious that I was playing with an actual child.
>>550840946Havoc was easier (and objectively more fun)
>>550841147NTA but I definitely had more fun running meme weapons like the heavy sword, because ranged weapons like the revolver could delete crushers like nothing. Now its a little annoying having ranged to deal with crushers with even an even more limited arsenal. It didn't really accomplish anything.
>Make plasma gun perfect implementation of iconic 40K weapon>Make every other iconic 40K weapon complete dogshitWhat did Fartshit mean by this?
Based!
>>550839761>Join game>See nickname in slavic moonrunes>LeaveSimple as.
>>550842053>boltgun is an absolute monster>bolt pistol is very strong on most classes that can use it>power sword is actually overpowered>laspistol is also actually unironically overpoweredAnon?
>>550842191Droog
>>550840946the megasweatlords ruined the game for everyone else by spending 1000s of hours optimizing their gameplay and then complaining the game is too easywhich seems to be the exact pattern repeating in games like this
>Power matrix extract>Usual guy slashing at the waterfall of poxwalkers while everyone is in the dropship>Take a shot at the mob and detonate them because it's atonement>"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh">Mission complete
why does fatshark hate ogryns? imagine the kino of knuckledusters on big bro...
>accept a zealot into my havoc lobby, since it's 3/4 for a 40 and I want a zealot, even though his build is a little confusing but whatever>ask him if he can swap the 10% self crit on blazing piety to the teamwide 10% crit that gives it to everyone (please.)>He just leaves instead >he was running a Thammer>this happens again sometime later with a vet, tell him to take field improv instead serrated blade>bouncesConfusing interactions tonight.
>>550843036>because it's atonementpenance, slavanonbook =/= foliant while we are here
>>550843161hiv cum wears spiked knuckles with one torso piece
>>550840946>Was the game more fun before when they were easier to kill?No, not really.It was the same type of cancer, but instead of 4-6 crushers with 6500 HP, it was more like 8-12 crushers with 3500 HP.Weapons that were good against carapace before are still the best against carapace and the ones sucked, now suck even harder. Like heavy swords.Basically the game needs balance changes desperately.They need to buff the shit weapons, like devilclaws, heavy swords.They need to nerf dumb shit like the dueling sword and knives (easiest way to do this is to just remove uncanny strike from the game and replace it with Opportunist on every weapon that had uncanny)And finally they need to rework/change crushers. Like giving all of them flak armor heads.
>>550843204What? I mean the event missions that's what they're called. They included the exploding infected poxers for whatever reason. It ledges people if you're lucky
>>550842795Fatshark adding havoc was a mistake.
>>550843352>Like giving all of them flak armor heads.so chaos warriors?
Two questions about specimen collection:>do ranged kills count>do kills during stimm countSometimes I end with a 60s CD sometimes 70
>>550842518>Falling for ragebait in the big 25Never going to make it out of havoc 26
>>550839250they used to, it got nerfed to 4 or 5 dodges>>550842053plasma damage profile is shit, they should of biased the damage in favour of charged shots.
>>550843702I mean, yeah?It would make crushers more balanced and then make many of the weapons actually worth considering/using. And the game wouldn't revolve around "if your weapon sucks against carapace you shouldn't even bring it"
>>550843980I appreciate that you finally got new material, but you're still a fucking retard and proving that you are eternally seething about being hardstuck with how hard and how autistically you latched onto that.
>>550843934Specimen collector only works on specialists and elites and don't let theorycrafter fags who only play the psykhanium tell you that it works correctly now it literally does not
>>550844125WHAT THE FUCK
>>550843352The last two points would honestly be enough to make the lesser options worth taking. I already take the claw on some builds and it's fun. But it really does confuse me that the main problem with the arsenal is that it must have at least some form of answer to carapace or it's not worth taking, and if not then at least the sidearm is good against carapace, and instead they doubled the carapace problem for seemingly no reason. I'm actually not entirely sure what inspired the change. Crushers are just a poorly designed enemy, and it also greatly amuses me that they did exactly this to the elite ragers. They now have carapace armor with a flak head which makes them a very balanced threat.So the idea is already there, fatshark has done it before with chaos warriors in vermintide. And yet crushers are still just an arsenal check instead of anything else.
>>550844125>Specimen collector only works on specialists and elitesWhy... Why isn't that mentioned in the tooltip for the skillnode...?
>>550844620Why would it be? This is Fatshark we're talking about. Be happy they even bothered to type out that tooltip and it was almost correct.
>>550840206prefer the female psyker voice lines.
>>550844125I suspected it might be that way, still not too bad assuming you're chasing them down anyway.
>>550843980>playing havoc
>>550844125>>550844204>>550844620>>550844795Pretty sure this is incorrect. The code says proc_events.on_kill which is essentially the same logic as extending the duration of desperado, i.e. it should work.It also very much does work when firing the launcher into a bunch of poxers in the psykhanium.>inb4 le psykhaniumI just went into an online game, used my stimm, waited for it to wear off, fired the reddit launcher into a crowd, and reduced my cooldown by a couple seconds.You're just inattentive and/or coping about your unwillingness or inability to install a simple numeric cooldown display mod.>inb4 more retarded misinformationCool. The game's source code says it works, kuli says it works, your claims are egregious and do not line up with what I've tested, post proof.
>>550844125wrong, source Kulis guide, you know the guy that actually looks into the code for every release
Didn't Kuli malded here once
>>550846034>ESL>schizo
>>550845891I just refuse to give Fartshart the benefit of the doubt. They are liars by omission and will outright refuse to elaborate and expect players to just vibe.
>>550846243translation:>I refuse to test things and would rather believe some random retard in a general known for spouting severely retarded misinformation and even throwing izzat tantrums when provided with undeniable proof
>>550846034Do you imply kuli cocksucker is the guy himself? I doubt that, he's just a fan.
>>550846387Actual translation: Fatshark is not to be trusted on their own tooltips because they clearly do not have a solid grasp on the English language and will continue to belch out non-working updates and talents with nonsensical description that are, sometimes, outright wrong.
>>550844620>>550844125This is absolutely untrue, it works just fine on any kill. It doesnt work while the stimm is going.
>>550846521>check the code>see it should work as advertised>test it yourself>see it does work as advertisedA truly unfathomable, downright mythical feat for a thirdie to even imagine
>>550846610Show the code. Come on. Show me the code. I want to see all the function calls and pretty little greek question marks.
>>550846693Why don't you show the code? You're the one insisting it was coded incorrectly.
>>550846864Buddy. I'm over here saying Fatshark lies thru their teeth and you should not take their words at face value. YOU are the one saying THE CODE THE CODE THE CODE.
>>550846915Not him but you need to shut the fuck up dude. It works ingame. What else matters?
>>550846951Suck my fucking cock. Enjoy your half truths and unverifiable code monkeys.
>another izzat episodeI want off this ride.
>>550846521How hard can it be to jump into psikhanium, pop a stim, wait for duration to end, and throw some chem grenades at grunts?
>>550847043>use stimm>it goes on cooldown>kill 20 poxers with the reddit launcher>cooldown goes down more than it normally wouldYou must be an engineer, or a doctor
>>550845902>Ermmmm but muh heckin' steam guide!!!!Never making it out of havoc 26
>>550847043>half truthsit working ingame is the full truth, you're just coping because you went all in on some retarded anons hearsay and you were confronted with how much of a naive faggot you aretry to use critical thinking more in your life, my little easily influenced faggot
>>550847126How hard is it to produce the code that substantiates your claim that it IS working as intended and isn't some band-aid fix? You can't. Just like I can't "prove" Fartshart is a lying sack of shit. Tell you what, you go tell HR that you defended your izzat with the help of YouTubers in a controlled event and I'll drop this little "debacle" about Fatsharks' inability to properly speak and convey information.
I've found a solution for the rats...
>ya filthy animals!
Looking at the blessing for relic blade, lots of them seem to be all about the special activation. Should I be rolling with blessings that maximize the special uptime like heatsink or cranial grounding, general purpose blessings like good old wrath and rampage, or a mix? I'll probably pair it with either the bolter and knives.
>>550847343>izzat! izzat! >while you're doing some weird performative "ok it works but can you prove it in the code" nonsense challenge because you're asshurt that you believed a lieI'm starting to unironically believe that only unironic indians use this word now. Like they immediately reclaimed the slur lmao
>>550847568Vishnu is a cuckold faggot who should be forgotten entirely.Can you unironically say the same?
Weapon specialist with the double barrel shotgun is so much fun
>>550847893>Weapon specialistDECLINED
>>550847556I use rampage and cranial grounding and play H30-40 with it. Would be curious if any other zealot anons use something different in this window.
>>550847343>it IS working as intended and isn't some band-aid fix?I cannot even begin to imagine why you would give a shit. It works in game, why do you care about the mechanism behind it
>>550847473>doctordjbased
>>550848069I don't like being told something works like [A] but it actually works like [B]. Fatshark doesn't have the most stellar history when it comes to stuff like this and this is why people actively delve into the game's files to see what is ACTUALLY going on. There is no trust with Fatshark.
HAMMER OF THE EMPEROR
>>550848238>I don't like being told something works like [A] but it actually works like [B].but it works exactly as the talent describes, what do you even mean
>>550848304>it works exactly as the talent describesIt doesn't thoughbeit. A lot of fags were claiming it worked as the description implied at scummie launch and yet it only actually worked when killing specialists or elites, and now those same fags are trying to say it's "fixed" while providing no evidence.
>>550848304Read the last line in my post. There is no trust with Fatshark. I'm glad it actually works. Don't get me wrong, I just do not have any trust in what Fatshark says in any of their updates or tooltips.
>>550847426rat chads run these threads
>>550847473>>550848079
>>550848403>It doesn't thoughbeit.but it does? It was never broken, I've been using it since launchI just don't get why you'd be upset about one of the few talents that actually work as described and always worked as described. I just paid attention, saw it worked, and I was happy. What's the problem again?
>>550847556I like to maximize overall uptime, with Cranial Grounding and Overload.Cranial Grounding for heat buildup reduction, and gets a little extra damage with its finesse bonusOverload is the best for reducing down time
>>550848616>I've been using it since launchWhy are you trying to gaslight me? It's impossible to fall for that shit considering how Fartshit development goes. You people have claimed that this broken talent has always worked, then claimed it worked since two hotfixes ago, and it still doesn't work as described. I don't understand why you think you can invalidate my lived experience with your izzat farming ragebait.
>>550848840Are you an actual schizophrenic dude? This is like the fifth time I've seen you get into a weird pointless argument where you're clearly in the wrong then whine about "izzat farming ragebait"
>>550848840He cannot insult Vishnu for his izzat does not allow him to. Back away now or you will face the entire wrath of India.
>>550847568>test it>it worksWhat else is there to be discussed, Raj?
>>550848504Epstein's client vibes
What's "izzat"? some new slavgroid insult?
>>550847473>>550848079>>550848504https://youtu.be/lwJsNZcriPY?t=14
>>550848504>mfw "Cryptic" is a beastwoman
>>550849142Newest buzzword that boils down to "national Indian pride."
>>550849061thats exactly what I asked him lol. He's insisting that he's not wrong because of the code or something
What does salvo mean?
>>550848940>you're clearly in the wrongSo which is it, has it worked since launch or has it worked since two hotfixes ago? At launch when it was blatantly broken to everyone's immediate notice, some bad actors here still claimed that it worked as intended but was "inconsistent" due to some kind of nebulous "bug." And now you are claiming that it has always worked, but last thread I was told it didn't work at scummie launch and was patched to work now, yet in game I still see no effect from it. It does not work and you do not play the game.
>>550847473I would not be opposed to this
>>550849328Better question for google but basically it's weapon's fire. Generally used for artillery, however, when multiple guns are firing in succession. A "salvo" is the act of firing these weapons in succession.
>>550849142When an Indian loses face, called Izzat, they do whatever they can to try and reclaim it. It's why they so obviously mask off when you insult their stinky shit country. Or so the idea goes.
>>550849356Bro you literally started this argument off saying it's still broken you're just retarded and coping about random details
>>550849142It's just the jeet's version of reddit karma
>>550849535lol pathetic, at least slavgroids (polish, russian, hungarian, no matter the breed...) already know and admit they're subhumans.
>>550849328A salvo begins with your first shot, and ends when you stop shooting and the gun returns to its full resting state. How quickly it resets depends on the gun.The Graia Vigilant Autogun has a fast reset on its Salvo. While the infantry lasguns are kind of slow due to their weird higher recoil.
>>550848490not for long
>>550849778This makes no fucking sense you moron. I'm being izzat farming ragebaited again, aren't I.
>>550849747Ok lol what's reddit karma now...
>>550850070It only doesn't make sense if you don't understand it
>>550850070>This makes no fucking senseWelcome to Fartshit game design
>>550850070>pew pew machine go "boom">this is start of "salvo">pew pew machine return to normal>this is end of "salvo"
the chemical dependency node is so strange when paired with the drugkit. Does anyone have a good build
>>550850267And let me guess Raj, you think it actually does work that way since launch? First Fatshark game?
>>550844125Kill yourself, retard
>>550850876Fuck you bloody benchod bitch
>>550850818Why don't you try actually playing the game?
>>550849190I would take back "some" of the bad things I've said about Fatshark over the years.
even when I dream about darktide my teammates are constantly disconnecting fatshark are such incompetent shits
Please for the love of God let us choose to set up defenses somewhere holy shit there are some planets like Hellmire or Oshaune that make no sense why they are just not being fortified
Why are people in this thread always so mad anywho =w=
>>550831663I tried it in maelstroms and it sucks. Not even remotely as good as d-claw. A bunch of nurgle blessed ragers and you kneel in milliseconds.
>>550851786Fatshark is a topic of controversy.
>She uses Devil's Claw on her veteranDECLINED
>>550851786theres a 24/7 discord raid on this place for some reason>"You chudcel ziggers needs to stop doing the MO! NOTHING YOU DO MATTERS! STOP PLAYING THE GAME!"
>>550851786Flanderization of 4chan. Indians, slavs and south americans just got acces to the internet and they always heard this place was some sort of "le 9gag le funny internet trollz" heaven so now they're trying to fit in by being insufferables
>>550852140>they're trying to fitPretty sure they're just like that naturally without trying
>>550852140its like 90% pajeets
>>550852140You say this like it's just barely started and hasn't been happening over the past 15 years. It's just ramped up.
>>550852140It's mostly Indians. Everyone is realizing they have literally the most disgusting culture on the planet.
>Oops, looks like you got knocked off that ledge there, so now you have to get stuck in a ledge hang animation>no you can't pull yourself up because we didn't know how to code/script thatEternal hellfire upon these swedes. They're letting their game go to the dogs with pointless, game ruining shit like this simply because they're too lazy to work. Just total rng causing mission losses and rank loss. Absolutely miserable.
>>550853271>getting ledgedskissue
>>550853271>>no you can't pull yourself up because we didn't know how to code/script thatBecause it would defeat the purpose of ledge-hangs you inbred and team based gameplay. If you could free yourself from disablers what the fuck would the point of the other 3 players be? Emotional support? THINK.
>>550852140>Indians, slavs and south americans just got acces to the internetThis happened in like 2005. At least a decade before you discovered this place, friend.
>>550853409You perfect moron. You absolute retard. Think for 3 seconds about what you just said. Maybe if you werent just izzat farming ragebaiting you would realize these shit devs dont deserve you defending them.
>>550853553You know what? I'm just going to agree with >>550853405Fucking skill issue. Be more fucking aware of your surroundings, shitter.
>>550853409It wouldn't be instant, and you still get hit during. The physics in this game is really poor and could use some attention.
>get grabbed by a mutie which flings me into a corner of poxies that i cant even move from, and grabbed again by another mutie within not even a second of landing before I can react>flings me over a large distance and a sniper trickshots me mid air>DieI'm in despair.
>>550853697>one poxxy boy is all it takes to reset your pull-up aninationWow, it's fucking NOTHING. Stop getting ledged, retard.
>>550853753>>flings me over a large distance and a sniper trickshots me mid airThis is fucking kino. I can't even be mad when that happens
>get into mission for the event>no one joins>complete archivum sycorax with 3 bots>with 2 altarsit got a little spicy at the end with a couple snipers, flamers, a bomber, and maulers while waiting for the parchment.
>>550854126Bots are generally better than the average Heresy player because>they stay with the group and have no egoThat's it. That's literally it.
>>550854296They can't push bursters either and that can get you killed
>>550854296legit left them to deal with the hordes while i cheesed it to the exit lol. it was touch and go at the second alter when a chaos spawn got the bots in a small room and went ham.
>>550854614>>550854623There's that "no ego" thing again, assuring the victory.
>6 gunners in sight>pinged one of them, charging brain burst at another one of them>vet HAD TO kill the one im charging atmfw
>>550854764Yeah most vets fail this pop quiz. See, this is the ego thing assuring failure.
Ammo...Rations...All mine!I love playing poxclick and then Rogue Trader after to chill. Sometimes gladius before bed, if I'm feeling sleepy. And DoW1 comp stomp on weekends with the lads I don't play SM2 it's so shit lmao
>>550854764If Fatshark cared about Darktide they'd make BB swap to a nearby similar enemy if the target dies mid channel.
>>550854764Eat shit freak
>auric qp>hab dreyko finale finished, extraction run>walk through the door as a team, through the corridor as a team, drop down the first ledge as a team>tardlet somehow gets lost in a linear level before the second ledge>inexplicably lags behind, presumably killing an infinite wave of poxers coming out of a door, I didn't bother to check>gets disabled, goes down, instantaneously ragequitsAre these shitters now running scripts or mods or something that automatically disconnect them when they go down? The game was over, his precious plasteel and diamantine secured, and the entire team was safely on their way to the Valkyrie and we extracted without a hitch. Why would you ragequit right as the game ends?
>>550851560>even when I dream about darktidegod damn that happens to you too?>no work tomorrow>play until 3AM>dreams are about darktide
>>550855014There are mods for that, for the penances involving completing a spree of aurics without dying.
>>550855014Oof. Definitely got caught unawares by 10 maulers hidden in the vomit of poxwalkers.
>>550853815It happens to everybody even rarely. Such as when a monstrosity pushes you, it's out of your control. And with how lazy Fatshark are, you get flung upwards as well. So getting ledged is the "lucky" alternative as often you just die instead.
>>550854971Or better yet, and the better question in the room is that nobody should see the BB halo other than the person casting it.
>>550855354>what do you mean I can be disabled by the environment?>how is that fair?>ignore that I also push enemies of the edge and they can't pull themselves up and are doomed the instant they eke over>well I'm the player and I deserve to be able to pull myself up after being disabled by a monstrosities or other special enemy>no I don't think this is unfair because my teammates are braindead and would never pick up anywayI know I'm projecting but I honestly do not understand why you are crying that you got disabled by the environment. Be more aware of your surroundings and do your best to not fight these enemies in areas that can leave you dangling off a cliff. I know it's hard but no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to fight that Plague Spawn right next to the bottomless pit.
>>550850070You only have trouble understanding this if you don't know english.
>>550855354>Such as when a monstrosity pushes you, it's out of your control.It's within your control to go hug the nearest wall when the loud-ass spawn cue happens and the towering mass of corrupted flesh starts running at you. It's within your control to dodge to the side closest to a wall and furthest from a cliff. It's within your control to use your stun ability if you have one. It's within your ability to realize that a beast of nurgle explodes and knocks you back after it finishes dying.>play clandestium with retards>get a burgle>it explodes near a ledge>2 teammates die>play clandestium in havoc 40>get a burgle>it explodes near a ledge>"BACK BACK BACK LEDGE LEDGE" from 2 different people>nobody gets ledgedIt is a fucking mystery huh
chemical dependency build NOW
>>550853553>izzat izzat izzatBased on how much you repeat this I know you are an indian. You are just over using the word to try make it lose relevance.
>>550856240https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ybJiFxWlqw
>>550856240It has no synergy with crate unless you do the turbo retarded minimum viscosity 15s cooldown build that sucks complete ass.It has extremely bad opportunity cost with desperado because you're losing VM, which turns you into a team-wide toughness battery and also gives you borderline god-mode, which works without needing desperado, and thus frees up your ability a little for more defensive usesIt has poor synergy with desperado anyway, because dependency implies wanting to use a low viscosity stimm and spamming it off cooldown regardless of the situation, when in reality you want to go full rending + reload speed to turborape bosses and crushers.So basically it only works with rampage and anyone saying otherwise is clickbaiting, clueless or both.>inb4 malicelet opinions
>>550856880women will get into a hobby about guns, bloodshed, and conquest and somehow find a way to turn it into an excuse to show off their tits. i hate them so much.
>>550857117>women
>>550857117>rubber tits>maskThere's no way that isn't a man
>>550857117Men will post gay shit like this then turn around and whine how there's not enough sexy women in their games about guns, blood, and conquest.
>>550857167>>550857228shes like 4 feet tall. be so real.
>>550857353>manlets don't exist
>>550857228tate fans aren't the brighest...>>550856892will test with rampage then thanks
>be me>create ogryn operator>height scale?>yeah, all the way down>enter strike team>ready screen has my midge ogryn right next to the tallest veteran imaginable>5'11" v 6'
>>550857117This is why Turkish cardboard waifu is superior to western women.
Is it possible to make Unchained look good apart from this and the paid armor sets?
>>550857776>fire wizard>surname fuego anusFartshart straight killing with this one
>>550857448that guy is retarded btw.chem dependency can work very well with stimm supply but it requires finesse. You can legitimately achieve 100% uptime on your stimm buff with full viscosity.VM is also worthless dogshit, especially since this patch made everyone immune to ranged attacks across the board. That faggot doesn't even play the game.
>>550857978God fucking damnit anon...
>>550855014There are indeed mods for that, one of the more popular ones being the reconnect mod. That allows you to force drop the connection to the server so you can instantly start reconnecting at the press of a hotkey.Some of the more sweaty people will use it to save the last person alive while spectating who gets dogged or netted, so their bot ai can jump in and unhook them
>>550857997>psykhaniumsissy malicelet acting uppity>implying I didn't know all those thingsMax viscosity stimms require being spammed off CD if you want to keep dependency up, regular "high viscosity" stimms still demand being used incorrectly when you don't need them.Crate can work with dependency, but it likewise requires you to waste the crate's potential with a retarded stimm setup and likely use it at incorrect times that don't actually benefit the team.VM is good if you can read, which you evidently can't, because you're some sub-human thirdie trying to be contrarian for its own sake or because I'm indirectly insulting your dogshit tardbuild that belongs in malice where you most likely play. VD is also good for reasons that have nothing to do with ranged immunity.In short: You are retarded, fucking kill yourself, never try to give advice again, fuck you, fuck your entire lineage, rot and die.
>>550858242>the reconnect mod. That allows you to force drop the connection to the serverThat has nothing to do with the observed behavior in the webm, and it also doesn't work like that. The mod very much does reconnect you, but if you try that while down, you just reappear dead at the respawn point, I've seen that plenty of times.Unsure what happens when you do it while disabled, I assume it also just kills you.
>>550858339>VM is good because [long rant of ad hominem insults without providing a single explanation on why that doshit keystone is good]wew
>>550858339>Max viscosity stimms require being spammed off CDwhich is very manageable with stimm supply. Also you seem to forget chem dependency stacks fall off one at a time. It's not the end of the world you let it drop to 3 a few times during a match. Don't be autistic.>but it likewise requires you to waste the crate's potential with a retarded stimm setup15% rending and 50% CDR on 100% uptime is retarded and doesn't benefit the team?>VM is good if you can readit's actually shit if you're capable of understanding nuance. spending several points and wasting your keystone on restoring toughness for your team is retarded on its face, they're still gonna walk into the trapper net whether their at 0 or 100% toughness. If they're taking toughness damage in melee it's already over for them, no amount of regen would salvage such a situation. So yes, now that ranged enemies are no longer a factor to consider, VM might very well be the worst keystone in the game
>>550848812>>550848040Groovy, thank you kindly. I'll need to play with it a bit, haven't found a melee weapon on zealot that I really like. I prefer melee horde clear as I don't like leaving it up to the flamer having ammo, tacaxe is a solid pick but I've used it on every class that can, evis is fun and power fantasy but it feels clunky at times.
>>550854764You highlighted the head for them, thats what its for right?
>>550859410>he unironically plays fucking malice where everyone is completely braindead retardedRight. Sorry, I should've known you were going to make the most braindead arguments possible.I'll stick to playing havoc 40 with actual sapient humans that take and use the good keystone while you bumble about with your shitbuild in your retard difficulty.
>>550856240>big buffs while stimms are active>get a withdrawal debuff when they go on cooldown
>>550859634sapient humans don't need a scummer to restore toughness for them. no one in havoc should be taking damage in melee.
>>550859940>le epique nobody should ever use defensive talents and should play completely perfect and never make a single mistake argumentI wish you the most painful and dishonorable death imaginable for being such an insufferable fucking contrarian
>>550859427>I prefer melee horde clear as I don't like leaving it up to the flamer having ammoYeah I'm kinda the same. I only use flamer in havocs and the vast majority of my ammo use there is with the primary attack. The rblade with the aforementioned rampage + cranial is an all-round good choice that's suited more for hordes and as I keep playing, is what I spend a lot more time on. Huffing and puffing against shooters, gunners, and whatever ragers etc to stagger, or keeping shit off vet/psyker etc. For non-havoc zealot I don't use flamer (bolt pistol) at all.
>>550860098defensive talents are great actually but defensive combat abilities are even better. A permanent 50% cooldown reduction shout, chorus, and bubble is phenomenal. Some baby faggot toughness regen isn't, however.
>>550860307Samefag here. I forgot to mention about rampage: the tooltip says damage, but it actually boosts power.
>>550860525>A permanent 50% cooldown reduction>he actually, unironically, genuinely, does not knowPlease just shut the fuck up already it's getting embarrassing
>>550839371would
>>550860768I accept your concession.
>>550860768try playing the game sometimes before you try to debateat least read the patch notes, this is embarrassing.
>>550860768not him but he means the CDR on the stim right? Doesn't that add up to 50% or does it add up differently?
>oh no, theyre not supposed to be here! get them!
>>550861030Cooldown rate is not cooldown reduction. 50% cooldown rate means your cooldown ticks 50% faster, or in more easily digested terms, for every 1 second that passes, your cooldown recharges by 1.5 seconds. The only way to reach "50% cooldown reduction" is to take the 100% cooldown rate for 1s on melee/ranged kill, which obviously only benefits half your team, situationally and unpredictably, and also the dumb faggot was dodging the argument entirely as if VM is somehow mutually exclusive with crate.
Enough about darksissies fighting eachothersThis is now a rat thread (alwasy has been)
>>550861285you got raped so hard now you're dodging me lmao
Train! Train! Train! Train! Train!
Is the lantern website correct, I lose sprint speed with every pistol except the heavy laspistol?
>>550837743kek I didn't see the crusher at the window
Actually fucking impressive how it's hard to get an actual build here. It's all about feelings and typing "you're build is bad >he doesn't know"
>>550861850Where? A couple dozen posts up were all fine in regards to zealot.
>>550861850i linked you a video that goes into detail of what makes the build works and why its broken but keep being a baby I guess.
>>550861850>post good build>instantly trigger izzat farming contrarians>correct genuinely bad build>retard hallucinates misinformation >gets corrected with literal facts and proof>has an hours-long meltdownYou can unironically thank the entire UTC +5:30 time zone for that.
>>550861285>50% cooldown rate means your cooldown ticks 50% faster, or in more easily digested terms, for every 1 second that passes, your cooldown recharges by 1.5 seconds.I never thought about this distinction but that makes senseI guess CDR on trinkets is pretty high value then
>>550861850why aren't you making your own build?
>>550861998It's tranner. He's a poser
>>550862075>high valueI specifically looked it up and saw it says regeneration and I meant low value. 4% CD speed seems kinda ass
>>550862075CDR is usually the best stat on curios for all classes, only very few select builds either don't benefit from it enough to be worth the investment, or desperately want other stats instead.BTL comes to mind, which has such a short cooldown that it doesn't really need any help, or even the support nodes to be useful.I prefer not running CDR on desperado because I don't spam the ability anyway, and would rather have more defensive stats.Do keep in mind that having multiple sets of curios for different builds is very much a luxury thing and that defaulting to CDR when you're poor is obviously the way to go.
>>550862303It literally shaves that percentage off the cooldown. A 60s cooldown with 3x4% loses 12% of 60s, or 7.2 seconds, putting it at 52.8 seconds. It is very, very powerful if your ability is so important that it warrants spamming, or you cannot afford short ~5 second windows of not having it.
>>550862607>>550862368I guess I'm double retarded then cause it says "combat ability regeneration" too. Fucking fatshark man
Newfag here. Which aura should I take on psyker? They all seem pretty good and generalist in nature.
>>550863124Default to cooldown always. Crit if you're built around crit and don't feel like you need bubble spam. The damage aura very rarely matters for some breakpoints and is usually worth neglecting.
>Veteran hard carries darkturd againImagine my surpise
>>550863970Some context missing here, anon.
>>550863970He looks like a sad pig in a gimpsuit.
>>550861850Were you the guy asking for a Chem Dependency build? I run it in my Rampage Shivs build. I'm still on the fence about a couple things like Sweet Spot and Battering Strikes, but I'm overall pretty happy with it.
>>550861031but where are they supposed to be at?
should i level melee psyker? im new to the game and only have 100 hours in>maxed vet, arby, and hivescum
>>550864968Just level with maxed assail, it kinda plays itself.Melee is probably your best bet, staves suck until maxed and blessed. You can bring a lasgun with infernus dumdum instead if you care about bosses.
>>550864968Levelling doesn't matter, but it's just recommended to use xp curios and spam QP.
H40 taunt Ogryn fellas, do you pick the 25% base damage on taunt or the CDR on stagger?
>>550865258Both are good, CDR is easier, you should already putting Skullcrusher on bosses while they're stunned.Your role is to group enemies up and make them follow you anyway, and CDR makes you better at that.
>>550865258CDR.
>>550863970the lack of filter makes him look stoopid
>>550864968Melee psyker with the soulblade perks and venting shriek is lots of fun. Spread soulblaze when you kill elites and use shriek to spread even more soulblaze and knock over whole rooms of enemies to make space or clear hordes. Force sword with deflector lets you tank gunners without your toughness getting touched and lets you build peril for the higher peril bonuses. Force sword special will lock you in place for a second but does chunk big health bars, force greatsword special will send out the force wave and slice through everything in a straight line in front of you.
>>550865574>>550865175>>550865167thanks fellas. i prefer melee focus more than ranged and I saw they have cool magic swords.
>>550863380Thanks. Can I also ask is the electric staff just Smite but with longer range?
>>550866031Yesn't. It's a pretty high damage but low target count burst of lightning. It also fires kind of like a whip, where you can release the lightning and then whip your crosshair around until it locks onto a target, making it great when visibility is terrible. The lightning just has pretty terrible multi-target damage and can't clear hordes well, but it's unironically a very powerful staff when built around the leftclick.Smite is mostly just there to hold hordes in place. It CAN be built for damage, but that makes the game boring and you shouldn't learn to play psyker with smite, you'll just cripple yourself and be a retard nobody likes.
>>550861031Stormvermin have like what? 13 minutes of voice lines and this is still the one and only line that ever plays?
>>550866428Its been a hot minute, does the electric staff still have the higher crit chance than the other staves? >>550865807Can try the voidstrike staff to give you a long ranged tool. Charge the purple orb, ponder it, then let it fly at head height to mow down everything in its path. Can one shot most annoying specials like sniper/bomber/dogs/flamers/gunners and will heavily damage and stagger maulers and ragers. Venting shriek can do good damage but I use it mostly as a peril dump so I can keep bullying my way through enemies.
>>550867135It has decent crit. It's good to build it into crits because it lets you hit certain 2-shot breakpoints on enemies, but I forget exactly which. It's finicky and I've stopped using builds that focus on the rightclick because the staff just isn't that useful anymore once enemy density reaches auric levels.
>>550868165Its decent fun below havoc40. Vent+Lightning staff can pretty comfortably take down any elites and you can use greatsword for hordes. Mobility however is an issue. Its purely for fun tho, anyone who recommends it over flamestaff or melee psycher is a lunatic.
>>550868754>psycher
>sighkuh
>havok>psycher
>>550866428>a very powerful staff when built around the leftclickBut i thought all staves' left click is the same (except for the flame thrower one). Does that mean i can build around the leftclick on all staves?
>>550869035*Havoeuck*Psycheur
>>550869267Shock staff has better blessings for it.
>>550869284I think you meant>Haveacuck*>Psychemer*
>>550869267The LMB is useful as it's pinpoint for decent damage, low cost, spammable. I like the flame staff for easier pushback (better to pushback bursters with it than melee). Some people like the brittleness LMB on flamestaff with empyric shock but I don't think this will be that good in high havocs. I think you are better off going all-in on the RMB/secondary.
>>550868754The flame staff stagger, burn stacking, burn spreading, and easily stacking brittle on bosses for the team just makes it feel so great to use. Nothing like doing an event and being able to handle half of the enemies by yourself while the team quickly completes it.
>>550869992It aint the hard meta staff for nothing. Im just dead ass tired of running it and bubble or scream if Im feeling spicy and team doesnt deserve the bubble. Frankly Id rather just Gaze melee every game.
>>550869267The primary fire, Blaze Bolt, is pretty good. High stagger, able to stop ragers/ maulers and interrupt specials/plasmaHigh suppression, easily able to shut down every ranged enemyHigh finesse, good headshot and crit damage.Spamming balls is the fastest way to kill most targets, even maulers and plasma gunners.The Elecrotkinetic staff is the best at it, as it has an inherent crit bonus, with the Surge blessing doubling your many crit shots.Voidstrike is second best, doesn't have the inherent crit but Surge applies to both attacks on the staff. Allowing you to roam around with the primary and pullout the secondary for big double crit shots capable of taking out Crushers and elite packs. Scrier's Gaze for more crit can be useful.Voidblast, should generally be built for the blast end of the staff. But mixing in primary fire is still important to shutdown ranged enemies and specials.
I hope they buff the electro staff in the next update.Give it lower peril cost when casting the lightning bolt and then make it do 30-40% more damage.
I'm thinking of getting myself Darktide or Helldivers 2 for christmas, are the games still active or is it too late to join new and still have some fun?
>>550873309Darktide has a relatively small but reasonably active player base, and just recently had a major update.Helldivers has its own dedicated general and you're probably better off asking there, I don't know much about it.
>>550873309Both are still going strong. Darktide very recently got its 2nd DLC class, so the game is doing well for itself.I think Helldivers also got an update.
>>550873309Both are still alive and well. Darktide's community is smaller and has a touch of the 'tism, but Fatshark games always have long legs and lasting, if slow, support. Helldivers is in a perpetual cycle of "we're so back, it's so over" but has one of the biggest playerbases in coop games and consistent updates.If you want an opinion between the two, Helldivers is more casual/cinematic while Darktide has more depth to tinker with or be challenged by. Both are cursed with swedejank and run on the same obsolete engine with a dwindling pool of devs. This thread is the Darktide general in disguise and everyone here likely prefers it.
I'm about to buy this because I hear it's Runescape Dragonwilds but better.Is this actually as good as people say? I'm kind of interested because you keep your character progression and can move them around servers.https://youtu.be/3FJctJKTf_c
>>550848504>>550849471Fuck that looks comfy
snipers shouldn't have those lasersdiscussthe game making it too easy by showing what is happening is bullshit
>>550875395Halo 2.
>>550875395Are you still mad because your asshole got blown out when you said explosions should have MMORPG danger circles?
>>550875565but i won?
>>550874620Runescape Dragonwilds is basically a Valheim mod, desu.
>>550874620I tried to like this game, but every single coop experience I had with it was dogshit.
>>550875509is bungie's masterpiece, yes
>>550874620i see this posted but it is genuinely dogshit though
rats (as seen in ongoing classic VIDEO GAME Vermintide 2!) are cute and all except for the fact that they have human hands and another pair of human hands that act as their feet
>>550876049I like it. It triggers my lifeskilling autism>>550876527>>550876902Guess I'll stay in Dragonwilds then. Thanks frens :)
>>550870720Thanks mate. I'll try them out once I get a hold of those level 3&4 blessings
>>550877375Hows the recent-ish dragonwilds update?
>>550878279Extremely good. I've logged 70 hours this week and I hated it at launch fwiw.
JUST ANOTHER DAY IN THE BIG T
>>550874620It's excellent and quite frankly it blows Dragonwilds out of the water; I'm positive that the biggest reason for its relatively quiet existence is that it got stuck with an absolutely cursed EA launch date, sandwiched between two behemoths of truly unholy popularity (Palworld five days prior, Helldivers II two weeks after).Genuinely baffled by anons saying they didn't like it as everyone I've talked to about it (as well as myself) loved it even before its latest update that added detailed water physics.
I wish darktide could be my entire life
>>550879792I'll give it a shot. Normally I don't like survivalshit but Dragonwilds has been triggering my lifeskilling autism. TY anon.
>>550857117>breasts are… LE BAD!loser
>>550880406esl
>>550879792i got every achievement in it after a friend conned me into playing it together then they fucked off after a couple hours and it was mindnumbing. i only did that to get my money's worththe temperature thing was aidsthe tower puzzles were "ok"the combat was godfuck awfulif you make a caster, the spells are dogshitthe base building is the same as palworld, dune, anything with a grid. voxel destruction was impressive in the 90s when red faction did it but tunneling up a cliff was incredibly unentertaining. it is actually such slop that you can use bonfires to keep a dungeon empty and open a chest over and over to give yourself every powerful item you could ever want. i would recommend literally anything else than that 'surprising expensive for what it is' sloppa
You don't need max health on your curios on Martydom Zealot right? Also should you damage yourself down to 1 wound at the start of every mission or just let nature takes its course?
>>550880516do you dump all your ammo into a wall as vet cause you have survivalist?
>>550880516>You don't need max health on your curios on Martydom Zealot right?Toughness is generally regarded as better, since your EHP is much lower due to being on wounds most of the time. Do keep in mind that corruption resist can be important in AIDS havoc because having wounds means a lower per-wound corruption threshold, though I wouldn't recommend even running martyrdom there.>Also should you damage yourself down to 1 wound at the start of every mission or just let nature takes its course?Sure, if you want optimal DPS. Havoc 40 zealots usually don't, because that little bit of DPS increase usually isn't as important as being able to take an extra hit, but it kinda depends sometimes.If you can safely do it early in an auric run just letting yourself get shot without triggering Until Death, you're probably fine though.
when is hiv cum going on sale
>>550881304Probably not until the next class comes out
>>550880515>a friend conned me into playing it together then they fucked off after a couple hoursthis is a (You) problem and in no way reflective of the game itself, you know>the temperature thing was aidsyou can say this about any game that features temperature mechanics though>the tower puzzles were "ok"fair, but they're not what you would call a particularly large facet of the gameplay>the combat was godfuck awfulI thought it was good. Better than most survival games by a pretty big margin.>if you make a caster, the spells are dogshitfair, casters need to be both buffed and expanded upon>the base building is the same as palworld, dune, anything with a grid. voxel destruction was impressive in the 90s when red faction did it but tunneling up a cliff was incredibly unentertainingyou mention voxel destruction but neglect to mention voxel construction, which also ties into making basebuilding quite different from the aforementioned games. You aren't limited to just the set architecture pieces; you can shape your base into damn near anything. It's an exceptional system no matter how you try to undersell it.>you can use bonfires to keep a dungeon empty and open a chest over and over to give yourself every powerful item you could ever wantAnd your last point is just "well it has an exploit in it (an exploit which I'm pretty sure got removed in the latest update) so it's slop" which I really don't think warrants detailed addressing considering this is an early access game.
>>550873309HD2 has its own general like everyone says, if you get that you’d be better off asking stuff about it there, but both are pretty fun games. Would get them on sale if I were you though.
>>550849952Holy based>>550849061>>550847607Damn you got his ass there
>>550881514>this is a (You) problem and in no way reflective of the game itselfit is how it came into my possession as someone who wasn't a hype beast and had no expectations>you can say this about any game that features temperature mechanics thoughyou could if you were comparing it to once human where you fucking died in 30 seconds and it was a waste of time entirely, that is the only thing i can think of where it was implemented in such a hamfisted shitty way>I thought it was good. Better than most survival games by a pretty big margin.it isn't even better than mmo auto attack combat>fair, casters need to be both buffed and expanded uponit is having no mana and ammunition instead or using gimped versions you get late, and some spells actually get scaled out entirely because they match the power of it with the level you unlock them>voxel destruction but neglect to mention voxel constructionyou could do that and if you wanted to do that incredibly badly it is 1 thing the game does but terraria and minecraft are better if you want that autismi forgot a complaint but the npc ai was fucking horrific and the only saving grace was setting them completely still>an exploit which I'm pretty sure got removed in the latest updateok
Do you really like playing psyker if you only like playing flame staff psyker?If flame staff psyker was ever nerfed, I'd stop playing psyker. Can I really be called a psyker player?
>>550883710I play brain burst psyker
>>550857573I would wife this woman. Third world modest nerd girls are the best. Shame she’s a roach but we can work something out.
>>550851786It’s one hundred percent the work of 1-3 bad actors, likely sourced from a ‘cord like >>550852128 or just third worlders like >>550852140 says
>>550853491“Just got access” isn’t quote right but no most of them are only starting to get it in the past decade, hence why things have progressively gotten worse since then
>>550861850The he doesn’t know guy is always such a tard too Kek
I wonder what the ethnic/national demographic breakdown of 4chan looks like nowadays, actually. I remember /int/ doing a lot of polling/surveying on this topic like 15 years ago, but I can't recall the results and I would imagine they'd be dramatically different today considering just how many browns have gained internet access in that time as >>550884431 shows.
I want to play Darktide but it needs a Chaos Waste equivalent before I can sperg out.
>>550861850you don't need a good build, just look at chocob, I've never seen him run something that wasn't absolutely fucking retarded that I would reject in a heartbeat, but for some reason he's always uploading videos of havoc 40 clutches
Is it time to return yet? Did they ever add the LMGs to Veteran that have been in the in-game class artwork since they did the skill tree update? If I recall the enemies have been using these LMGs since the game came out.
>>550884109Just pretend she's from Tallarn.
>>550876005This is why no one likes you. Needing to "win" conversations makes you tedious at best.
>>550884109>modest>whoring herself out on redditeh
>Kriegpig Cadian Personality>Arbites Judge dredd or Judy>Ogryn with reddit wholesome name or larpingany other dead giveaways that the person is a backpack?
>>550884813These. Have these been added to the game yet?
>>550885486this
>>550884109>>550884918>modest>showing her belly buttonAbsolutly haram, like my brother >>550885425 said, stone her.
>>550885486>any other dead giveaways that the person is a backpack?what's a backpack in this context?
>>550885503Nope.
>>550839035>>550885627That's your new fight?
>>550885839What the fuck do you mean new fight, are you trying to bait by implying that it's ever worth taking with anything other than a knife build?
>>550885787then it's not yet time to returnoh well
>>550885994so that's your new fight, kek
>>550884431>>550884547>that graph is nearly a decade outdated at this pointGrim darkness.
>>550885713Needs to be carried to get anywhere.
>>550886248aaaahthat's clever
>>550886031retard
>>550884813>>550885503No because Fatshark are lazy and retarded lol, meanwhile Owlcat (you know, the guys of Rogue Trader):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-ewf1WMlk
Knowing that the code word for the 7th class has been datamined and it is "Cryptic", then it means that next class is going to be a scribe or an astropath.
>>550886005Hope you enjoyed the visit. Like some anons have said in previous threads, hotshot lasguns feel like something they might save for paid dlc. As far as guns go in 40k, they screwed the pooch already when they gave the Ogryn a heavy stubber. Unless they are allowed to make up a heavy autogun and add it that way or find a way to finagle a way to have a heavy stubber on vet that's not the Ogryn one, like a human sized version and the Ogryn is using some special Ogryn version.
>>550886596>scribe or an astropath
>>550887065lollmao even
>>550886596It would be funnier if the codename was literal and meant nothing, and they just search and replace it in the code once it's actually implemented.My money is on Psyker 2.0.
>>550886403lol
>>550885503Not one person would give a fuck if they overrode your backpack slot unless their name is tencent/fatshark
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3710600/Warhammer_40000_Dark_Heresy/>co-op>solo>skins>diverse characters>even eldar and kroot>veteran can use stubber and heavy weapons>and moreits like a time-bomb for fatshark
>>550890712Where is the co-op?
>>550890712Retard
>>550890712whats with them continuously making ogryns smaller in 40k games? An RPG like this would be perfect to have them at actual size yet he looks like he's like 6'10 tops
>>550890846Open the eyes?
>>550889993>Not one person would give a fuck if they overrode your backpack slotAgreed.But they wouldn't necessarily need to override the backpack slot either.Like if I was a developer/modeler in charge of making the heavy stubber and hellgun/hotshot lasguns, I would make it so that the ammobelt/energy cables connect to a waist "bag" on the character's lowerback/waist instead of a backpack. Like pic related.Does it look a bit odd/dumb, maybe, but then it would allow you to weat whatever backpack without overrides.But I agree that this wouldn't even be necessary at all and they should just add the heavy stubber + hotshot las.
>>550890712>diverse charactersUh oh
>>550889993>>550891578Just give a round magazine to the Stubber of Veteran like the mini and solved
>>550891707>the current roster have inquisitor, veteran, ogryn, psyker, zealot, eldar, kroot and there's more comingexcuse me?
>>550890712>Owlcat gameSee you in 4 years after release when the game is finished lol
If you could only get one dlc class which would it be, arbitrator or scum?
>>550893407But enough about Darktide
>>550893464Arbitrator, but why only one?
>>550893407This. If it’s going to be buggy as shit on launch like RT was I won’t hold my breath
I would normally never agree with the izzat farmer but he is unironically right about chemical dependency, it's not nearly as good as the jewtubers pretend it is and only really works with rampage
>>550890712It's going to be co-op like Baldur's Gate 3 is co-op, that is you will be able to play it together with a friend that owns the game, but people won't be playing it for the co-op with randoms like literally any other co-op game.
>>550893534Don't feel like buying both.
>>550893464Depends on what you want. Arbitrator is way more forgiving with tons of toughness and CC whiel still doing good damage. Cummer takes a bit more skill to payoff, but it puts out fantastic damage and is a lot faster feeling all around. But not being out for long, and a nerf to Scum wouldn't surprise me.
Wait Auric is now the highest difficulty? Is this just a QoL change where you don't have to switch over to the Auric mission board or did Fartshart reworked the while difficulty system?
>>550895581And kingmaker... And WOTR...
>>550897083>Is this just a QoL change where you don't have to switch over to the Auric mission boardyeh
>>550897083>Is this just a QoL change where you don't have to switch over to the Auric mission boardYes. The difficulties are unchanged apart from sedition being removed. Auric is still essentially damnation with more modifiers. But now every idiot moves up to auric ASAP instead of being intimidated by the separate menu.
Is the chainsword actually good on veteran now? Is the squad leader build meme no longer a meme?
>>550897547>>550897554My thanks. I haven't been playing the game lately and thought my memory was playing tricks with me for a moment.
>>550897882>Is the chainsword actually good on veteran now?Only if you have a different weapon for carapace
Instead of Red weapons, I want 2 bonus skill points, prestiged, or earned for doing some kind of feat.My build would be so OP with just 1 more point.
>>550899027This was originally my idea btw
>>550732736It’s actually pretty simple when you think about it
>>550890712mite-b-cool.jpg
>>550899102Make it happen, or I'll kill you, I'll fricken kill you.Go spam the dev forums right fricken nowAHHHH
>>550899027>I want the game to become even easierWhy don't you just play on a lower difficulty?
>>550857776Found a mod that temporarily gives you everything for you current session and now I see why default Unchained has her sports-bra-esque half cuirass (fused with the coal brazier bevor but that's irrelevant) and exposed shoulders. You're still playing a woman when wearing the Blazing Soul Raiment so you get this fruity-ass Soul of Cinder.
>>550899559frick you... FRICK YOU!
>>550899323Nah...
that Titus nigga be lookin low key heretical ngl frfr
>>550898171>Veteran>Dealing with carapace in meleeSounds about havoc 26
>>550900567Happens all the time if the spawns are high enough
>>550900056jerk
what does warp resistance do exactly?its a stat on a force sword, does it just mean you gain less peril when charging it with lightning?is it a dump stat?
>>550902042Warp resistance is usually the dump stat on all things that have it, yes. Especially melee weapons, because the special is either useless, or situational, or you actively want to use it to build peril so you want it as low as possible if you have a weird build.
>>550902042Any warp related actions with that weapon build less peril, and yeh it's generally a dump stat.
>>550902243>>550902251would having 20% more mobility actually make a difference? otherwise I'll just keep the resistance.
>>550902345Having 20% more mobility will trigger the resident turbo autist into having a prolonged melty over how you must always dump mobility.Practically speaking, more mobility most importantly means very slightly faster run speed, which will matter if you use a staff because those are usually slow. The increase to dodge distance is mostly negligible.
>>550839371Worst post all thread>>550843161lol what an awful cock tease
>>550847473>>550848079>>550848504>>550847473i take it back it’s these
>>550856880Is that an actual attractive female who likes Warhammer??? *gulps*…..
>>550902345As long as you have enough mobility on it to have 3 dodge charges.
>>550902345You can check on gameslantern (build editor) and see. I always dump mobility, and for weapons that don't have mobility [in the context of staves] I dump warp resist as it makes little difference. Some people keep their warp resistance stat as low as they can (e.g. 11%) but in my experience they've always been pretty mediocre (talking havoc 30-40) and no coincidence, the good psykers do not do weird shit like that either. Again, just my experience, don't really care to hear if some anon here has fallen for that trap.Again as I always say, ultimately, two things, use the inspect (in-game and games lantern to see for yourself), and try it out if you can be bothered to (meat grinder and matches).
>>550886596>sending in thousands of the people you need to communicate into a meat grinder great idea
>>550904195>Rogue Trader has you potentially deploying your Navigator every mission
>Fondly remember the day I picked up Vermintide 2 and was absolutely addicted to how satisfying the melee combat was and how charming the dynamic between the Ubersreik Five was>Played the game to death and slowly getting into the Warhammer franchise lore and stuff>Fast forward to the present. Completely burned out on the game. New maps, classes and updates no longer make me excited about the game. Only had around ~100 hours put into Darktide even though it's supposed to be the next tide-game.How can I be that invested in a game again and experience the joy as a result from it? I started picking up Darktide again recently but it just doesn't have the same impact as Vermintide 2 did on me. Tried SM2 but the combat just isn't for me and everything about the game's accessibility sucks.
>>550904282that’s even worse
>>550904412Exactly why I posted it kek
>>550904297Suffer some brain damage or memory loss so it's all novel again. Is this really worth asking, anon?
>>550847473>>550848079>>550848504>>550851376Yiff in hell, tourist.
did they change arbites special attack on the mace and shield?
>>550904857no?
>>550904857Nope.t. only uses maul + shield on arbitrator and uses the special constantly
>>550904913>>550905082must be my mouse button then
>>550904857Nah, but people finally realized if you charge it all the way, you get a longer stun
>>550902526>>550903464>>550903829tHANKS
>>550905481Did the shield run out of battery? Check the little light in the top-right corner of the shield.
>>550905543Yes, anon?
I want a purity seal on my water bottle too
why use the javelin if you're playing as the tree witch
>>550906792It used to be very good
>>550905931
>cleansing altar>burster explodes inside door behind us>full team wipe
>>550906792>"The gas, the gas!!"
>>550905567maybe i'm just being a retard and not remembering how often i'd use itit seems to charge slowly compared to when i last played
Hscum Despacito+vraks infantry autogun is pure sexo
>>550906792>>550908034>>550908117jej
>>550905534Charge as in the battery and not holding down the activation button? Is there evidence of this? Is there a resource (like a kuli guide) that details exactly what each weapon activation does?
So once I reach 40, my assignment wont derank anymore and I am free to play meme builds?
>>550912746It will go back to 30 on next soft-reset (typically happens each big patch). IIRC there's no way to stay at 40 for good, H30-40 all get sent down to 30.
>>550912994Perfect.
>>550908034>next mission>we're all together>wait where's the last guy>just as I jump down a level hear the sound of an altar being activated>other 2 people with me run back towards the guy who activated it>chaos spawn, 3 crushes, 2 mutants, a flamer, and a horde spawn in the room with me>almost made it out until I got stuck on a poxwalker and got smashes by the crusher>other 3 players die to bulwark swarm and bombers finished the event at least so thats something.
Is there a 'point' to getting H40 clearance outside of wanting to host it yourself? I've finished H40 but not at H40 clearance as I don't bother hosting. And no my friends don't play havoc, I just join randoms for havoc. I've been enjoying playing non-meta (but still good) builds now that I've hit 40 and just chilling in high-20s and whatever-30s (whatever lobby I can find).
>>550906792dont show that to nigshark they might game ban you
>>550914698Thanks for the tip I was going to print it out and mail it directly to Stockholm but now I won't.
>>550856892Dependency paths almost directly into the best toughness replenishment node in the entire tree, also>100% viscosity stimm has a cooldown of 77s>stimm crate is 60s>dependency is 90sso indeed you need to spam the crate every 77-90s or so to keep your dependancy stacksbut it's perfectly doableand it heals corruption from the entire team
>>550916278yw, first ones free
Tempting to join this as Arbitrator.
>>550917512did you do it
>>550918882Nah, even though I've done H40 I haven't yet as Arbitrator so I'm not particularly confident in myself with Arbitrator at H40 yet. I keep changing shit around on them each day. Today I just learned that the shield+maul has a hidden stat that isn't shown in inspect so I crafted up another one for it.>Swede devs
>Where a planetary governor cannot restrain their citizens the Arbites must take the lead and set the example, breaking rioters, crushing panics, and showing the mob the meaning of Imperial loyalty and discipline. Invariably, when the Arbites must take such action, the governor will be called to account for his or her loss of control, and few survive their verdict.Does this mean the governor of Tertium is utterly fucked and his only way out of capital punishment is for this insurrection to go on forever in an endless stalemate?
>didnt buy an ogryn piece I wanted...>going to have to wait 1 year for it to come backcool cool cooldont hesiitate anons, buy the slop asap
>>550919039>I haven't yet as Arbitrator so I'm not particularly confidentHonestly, h40 arbitrator doesn't play drastically different from how it does in auric, you just happen to get the opportunity to use Nuncio and use it well (boss rape arena), and actually have teammates that will make use of shield flashbang + shotgun stun. Also I guess you are actually free to use EO since you no longer need stun immunity to force objectives your retards will ignore, but that doesn't change much about the actual playstyle, you just have less toughness generation. Which is fine, toughness generation isn't that helpful in havoc where you're either full or empty anyway, chip barely exists.
>>550919327if rogue trader is anything to go by, a fate much worse than death awaits the governor
>>550919905>flashbang and stun roundsMy favourites, always been using these. Here's what I've been using. I was swapping around the blitz around quite a bit lately and I just keep coming back to remote detonation. So many missions are won where I don't even use a shock mine for example.>nuncioWhile it seems powerful I found that often we'd end up retreating out of it anyways, especially if there's like 2 monsters and a whole host of other shit pushing us (common), so it ends up being rather wasted. Maybe I need better timing on when to use it, or use it more conservatively (e.g. retreat if needed, then use it when it looks like we're no longer getting pushed back). I would like to use it some more again though. Oh and I flip-flop between TDR aura and stagger damage aura. And I've been questioning whether I should be keeping true grit. I get that it's good and seemingly a staple for many people but I can not recall the last time I've used it, and the very rare opportunity I can't stagger or dodge a crusher, I can block it and not take damage.
Should I get Forever Winter or the two darktide classes instead?
>>5509209122 darktide classes
>>550920648While I'm not going to say he's entirely blameless in his neglect, a division of the Mobian legion turning traitor and coming back while a shadow cult formed that the inquisition failed to spot isn't exactly his fault, isn't it?
>>550920789>I found that often we'd end up retreating out of it anyways,It absolutely fucks human bosses. Monsters require a bit more finesse with stuns, you basically want to wait for your vet or zealot to be ready to stun the monsters into a corner. Alternatively, wait until the person who has aggro from the monster is ready for it, and just back up against a wall and block/side dodge to keep it neatly in place. If it's a spawn, letting it eat you is unironically fine.>buildIt is absolutely imperative that you take Soulguilt Scan, pathing to it has some really strong nodes.Going that heavy on the center right is unnecessary. BTL support nodes are also arguably unnecessary but they do get some more value in havoc I guess. I rarely miss BTL in havoc, since I mostly use it to bail out retards from overheads or mutants, and havoc 40 players aren't retarded enough to die to those usually. If a mutant grabs someone, it dies within half a second.>picrelThis is what I use in h40, which is pretty different from your build, but likely plays largely the same. Can't go wrong with shield + stun shotgun. Also I agree with remote det vs shock mines. It's pretty rare that I do end up needing them, but I'm thankful to have them when things get messy. I'm okay with not having a blitz 90% of the time honestly. Remote det is good, but I mostly use it for damage in aurics, and the damage matters a lot less in havoc.
>>550921072very true, but justice has a habit of coming down hard on the unlucky ones in 40k, be they guilty or not
>>550919327>>550921072It’s iffy. We don’t actually know what measures did or didn’t take to prevent this from happening. He’s a planetary governor, so there will probably be some legit due process unlike with most people but what how severe his punishment will be is impossible to say
Still wanting a PVE Vs. PVE mode...Where you race another team to the extract vehicle. (only 4 people can fit inside, sorry slower team)You dont kill eachother, you just race from opposite (reversed) sides of the map.Reversed maps are already used in the game.First 3 inside wins, if someone is dead, then first 2 inside, etc.Would be so fun :(.It's kind of like left for dead pvp with the length meters, but without the killing eachother as monsters part.
>>550923164Feel free to go play Warframe. They added that like, last year.
>>550923428I saw some clips of that game before and you're literally just like flying around like faggots
>>550923483like proud faggots*
>>550923585Serious question:do you actually shoot and pve in that game or just fly through corridors?I tried it years ago but my controller wouldnt work so I said fuck that
People still play Warframe? I thought that was forgotten about in 2015
>>550923973The game is like 99% PvE. The PvE versus mode is 2 teams racing through identical maps doing objectives and sending debuffs or enemy buffs to the other team. I think?
Is there anything I'm missing for possible ways to maximize cyber mastiff synergy?The only other one I can think of is High Voltage (+25% damage on electrocuted enemies) on the riot shield weapons for squeezing a bit more damage out of Voltaic Mandibles Augment (dog electrocutes enemies it attacks)
>>550921072>a division of the Mobian legion turning traitor and coming back while a shadow cult formed that the inquisition failed to spot isn't exactly his faultThey don't care. Grimdark.
>>550924779>>550924961I might actually try playing itThere's nothing else, im sick of the slop shop not having what I want and its pissing me the HECK off.
>>550925279>im sick of the slop shop not having what I want and its pissing me the HECK off.warframe is the absolute opposite of what you want thengo ahead and give it a tryyoull quickly find out what I mean
>>550925279Warframe slopshop is... very extensive. You don't ever need to use it to play through 100% of the game but it's there and it's big.
>>550925514>>550925774Thanks
Man, I wish Auric always had the density that the High Intensity event missions have. This shit is so much more fun. Just needs more elites
>>550921072The circumstances are entirely irrelevant. The only important thing is whether or not the governor was able to maintain the payment of the tithe. He wasn't.
>>550919039>Today I just learned that the shield+maul has a hidden stat that isn't shown in inspect so I crafted up another one for it.This is news to me. What the fuck?What is the hidden stat?
>hi-intensity shocktrooper gauntlet>nonstop dreg tox bomber and sniper spamno thanks
>the shivs both have holes on the back of the hilts>instead of using this as a trinket mounting point, they just tacked on one of those swiveling shits, clipping right through the cloth gripsis there a mod to just get rid of thesewhy aren't they removed by default when you have no trinket mounted
>>550924973>Is there anything I'm missingYes, the fact that Razor-Jaw, Canine Morale, Voltaic Mandibles and Execution Order are the only worthwhile nodes. Part of the Squad is a pathing node. I don't count Remote Detonation because it's mandatory pathing. Everything else is either incidental or completely worthless to invest in, especially the damage auras.I think the only exception might be Serrated Maw, which is solidly... mediocre. It does a thing that is good, so it deserves some credit, but I don't think its placement in the tree is amazing, or that it's worth the point usually.>but what if you want to memeTest whether Razor-Jaw still applies a stronger bleed than usual. If it does, bring a bolt pistol with Puncture to keep stacking bleed stacks on monsters your dog bleeds. You'll run into issues with skill points, so you likely won't be able to take dog support nodes on your abilities, or the targeting keystone. EO is the best damage boost because it's powerful and EO is just good.
Is there any reason to pick Zealot over any of the other classes these days? Their melee seems meh and they dont provide as much team support as anything else
>>550927392This post is bait. The same shit has been asked several times over the past two weeks or so, and always responds with some dumbass cope about zealot le bad.
zealot IS le bad
>>550927609in your hands, I bet it is.
he's never in my hands because I'm not a sissy book bitch who needs to be carried by people actually playing the gameread also: bubble psyker
>>550927886Imagine being mad at bubble psykerslmao, kys
>>550927886>i hate zealots because they make the game too hard>i hate bubble psykers because they make the game too easyI HOPE YOU GET EATEN BY BEARS YOU SISSY CUNT
imagine needing a bubblelmao, kys
>>550928392Let me guess, you're playing Hive sucm with bugged invul and think you're good at the game nowlmao
>>550928432The invulnerability is bugged?
>>550928464yes
>>550928531I see.
>>550928464>>550928562you basically cant be hit by ranged atmhavent tried hive scum yet, but you basically like 5 seconds of ranged invul every time you simply dodge or something like that and fatshark are on vacation
I pray the next class is a Noble, that no one asked for, so that I can bark orders at everyone else to do everything
>>550928708A free meme class that everyone hates playing with would be funnyThere's a class in another game I play that can stasis (freeze) enemies and make them invulnerable to damage for like 8 seconds at a time and it slows everyone the fuck down and its cringe
>>550928708Gonna pick the whingiest voice pack for it and go down all the time to annoy people
>>550927516And what if he never got a response because this thread is just shitters throwing shit at each other?>>550927392Zealot has the best auras, and he has two of them (standard aura - tdr or corruption healing, and blazing piety crit aura), and that is the only reason to bring him. But there's only one way to pull your weight on zealot when horde clearing - relic blade. It's the only weapon on zealot that can output damage comparable to melee veteran, arbites or ogryn. Of course stealth thammer exists, but it doesn't work with blazing piety so the build will not function well overall. Penetrating flame flamethrower is also a noob trap - it's too ammo hungry for any scenario where you would need it, and psyker should have penetrating flame on his staff, don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Flamethrower still isn't bad for clearing walls of ragers and shotgunners, but it's not worth bringing when you have a relic blade. So instead you can bring a bolter to magdump monstrosities, or bolt pistol to help with clearing snipers and gunners. And bring whatever grenade you want, it doesn't matter much, you will not get any grenade pickups anyway. FOTF is a meme so you still have to bring a book.That really leaves you with exactly one functional build (for havocs of course, you can play whatever you want in aurics). Depending on whether you have a based lovely stimms dealer in your party, you either go with tdr aura or corruption healing aura.
>>550921473Interesting. Not taking any of the first keystones is interesting as I found 'Go Get 'Em' made the dog much more reliable, particularly for Canine Morale. Likewise with Suppression Force, as this goes well with Concussive. How come you're still using Razor-Jaw? I remember it being broken and disgustingly overpowered on release, but isn't anymore. I'll try EO again, then. I don't care for the "kill the glowing enemy!" minigame that a few classes have. But I do like the Keeping Protocol subnode for it. And yeah agreed with BTL, I save retards an awful lot with it, and I can see it being less useful in H40, but it's still very relevant in 20s and even low 30s. I will miss it, very satisfying skill. And curious how you don't take serrated jaw, and you use shield, not maul by itself (maul itself can get brittle blessing, shield can not). Expect someone else in the team to constantly apply it? I'll give all of these a try again.
>>550928991>Zealot has the best aurasNo. Canine morale is better>but it's not an aura!!Functionally the same
do you guys really not want bubble psykers in your aurics/havoc 40's or are you only pretending to be retarded?
>you are bad at the game for both playing as and needing those support abilities>N-NO, LEMME GUESS YOU'RE [imagined cope]compelling
>>550929054I'd say it's about the same but second aura isn't as good as zealot'sPlus you would probably want to bring both if you tdrmaxx
>>550926513Block cost is tied to defences and makes a pretty big difference. I used to dump stat it, now I dump stat power (which makes little difference), even though I see the good value in the flashbang and use it often. I wonder what other weapon has shit like this. It makes me trust the inspect tool (in-game and in gameslantern) less. I wish someone like Kuli had a guide that details all weapon specials/activations.And I say, I don't block a lot, not trying to sound like a TOONKER but it's worth dumping power instead of defences. I do often block for a split second here and there, and as I said, crushers or sniper shot once a while if it's a split-second 'oh shit'.
>>550929120>aurics/havoc 40'ssaying that just means you have no idea what havoc is because auric is equivalent of havoc 15 at best
>>550928663>5 seconds of ranged invul every time you simply dodge or something like thatThat would explain why my previous match had a rampage scum being a huge faggot and rushing like 2 rooms ahead leaving the 3 of us to crawl through the game like a cover-shooter from the spam of ranged enemies he safely ignored and the misc other elites he outran. I don't think there's been a single scum that's been pleasant to plat with except the rare medbox scum during gas missions.
>>550929272so you aren't pretending to be retarded...
>havoc is for the ELITE gamers like me that CRAVE a challenge>ahem, where is my dedicated "turn off an entire facet of the game as well as just give you a bajillion toughness per second because lol why not" supporter?>havoc? without that? n-no I don't think I will, not today anyway, t-tomorrow...
>>550925774>>550925514Interesting thoughts…>>550926332It’s at least a little relevant. But it really comes down to how merciful the Arbies want to be.
>>550929363They probably purposely fucked up the invul so people can learn the class without going down every 10 seconds
>>550929120One problem with a bubble psyker is the opportunity cost for more damage, and success on Havoc above 20 depends a lot on DPS checks or moving through the level while fighting, which precludes using the bubble outside of holdout sections. You really need to be killing things faster than they're spawning, on the other hand though, a bubble psyker is very useful for vets focused on special sniping because they don't have to worry about getting shot, so they only need to be covered at melee, but it's very situational. Anyone looking at builds purely on paper isn't going to see the utility the bubble provides because they only theorycraft here, they don't play the game.
>>550929256Wait, is this why some retards think you can't block crusher overheads with a shield? Lmao.Did you retards dump defense for real? Like, even if you don't know about block cost, what kind of mental condition makes you dump defense over power output?
>>550929532>why would you dump a thing that has zero actual affect on your gameplay 99.9% of the time over the thing you use regularlythinking emoji.jpg
>>550929532I was in the weird middle camp where I dumped defences but could block crushers. Now I'm more efficient with it. I have a perfect block node (+replen instantly) I wonder if this made a difference too. Also you're being pretty silly, anon. Try to contain yourself a little.
>>550929532Have you considered being outside of the overhead slam zone, instead of actively choosing to lose nearly all of your stamina on a class that regenerates it as if it were a lifetime chain smoker?
>>550929523If you are forward bubbling it helps move your team forward faster so they aren't just hiding and sniping elites from coverI dont see any world where you dont want psyker to be bubble in hav40, if you want a dps, then just play another class imo
>>550929468Arbeetus are pissed, Lord Margrave will get his ass reamed by either them or from getting overthrown by the nobility; both prospects won't end well for him.
Speak of shield dumps, how come it's always Defences vs Power Output. Does Crowd Control hit stagger breakpoints or something? You lose 2m of flashbang and 5-6 degrees on the angle dumping Power.
>>550929256you can also just slap block efficiency on the shield and still be able to take that overhead
>>550929031>Not taking any of the first keystonesI command the dog manually. Shield lets you cower behind it for some safety while picking a target.>Suppression ForceDoesn't do anything worthwhile. If I'm engaging a thing in melee, it's dead or staggered. Monstrosities don't deal relevant damage. Captains should get stunlocked to death by the entire team (don't forget Skullcrusher, piss tag, etc. exist), or tanked with a wall to my back.>How come you're still using Razor-Jaw?Nerfed does not equal bad. This way of thinking is extremely stupid. I had a recent run where I had an exact even split of 400k melee, ranged, and dog damage, and over 200k of that dog damage was bleed.>I don't care for the "kill the glowing enemy!" minigameIt's useful for being a wallhack and often giving you CDR, as well as a really big monster damage buff for just 1 point instead of pathing through the dogshit dodge node to get a worse version of it.>no brittleness, shieldShield maul has a rending blessing, that's good enough. I even dump penetration because the damage loss against carapace is marginal, but the gains from both max power output and defenses are substantial. Also you probably have a veteran to remove problem carapace anyway.Yes, I expect someone else to apply brittleness, namely the zealot with flamer. Yes, I bring a zealot into most havoc teams. In fact, I think VPOZ is superior to VPAZ, but arbitrator does have some strengths over ogryn, mostly trivializing sniper modifiers with the dog.
>>550929630>what is push cost>what is sprint costhmm does he know?>has zero actual affect on your gameplay that's power output
>>550929838The loss on Defences between 60 and 80 is miniscule, that's why it's the dump, like mobility.
>>550929753>if you want a dpsPsyker is DPS though, it's not mutually exclusive to bubble.
>>550929838It's not really a discussion
>>550929926If you dump power output you are a fucking retard because that is the entire reason to use the shield.>>550929963The loss of defenses between 60 to 80 means getting stunned by a crusher overhead>just don't be thereyou can't always afford to be.This is all I will say on the subject because I know you retards struggle to even beat heresy and I'm talking at a level of difficulty you can't even hope to reach, so just preemptively go fuck yourselves, I won't be part of your izzat circlejerk.
>>550929926Yes, no actual effect.>doesn't matter>doesn't matterDo you not slide? Do you just spam pushes and not let stamina regenerate by swinging? If either of those matters to you, it's a skill issue.
>>550929120It's just people being contrarians. Shriek works in havoc and you can use it to overcap your soulblaze stacks alongside perilous combustion, making soulblaze do even more retarded damage, but the psyker's main job in havoc is to kill hordes, which is already something you do stupid fast anyway. And at the sametime that isn't 100% necessary since most teams have ogryn who has skullcrusher and also shattering impact, which also amp up your damage stupid high. So the overcapping from Shriek becomes more of a novelty than anything else.And if you are running shriek, it more or less makes it mandatory that your veteran runs smoke grenades to counter ranged enemies, which can be a bit of an issue if the mission turns out to be an ogryn seed that spams 6 gorillion crushers throughout the run. Not impossible but it can make it lot more difficult.Buble is still really good even now because it just entirely hard counters ALL ranged enemies and ranged specials.Also buble has more niche use cases as well, like when fighting Burgles. You can quite literally face tank them and melee them safely inside a buble because it prevents the Burgle from vomiting on you, making the fight very easy.Also if you are running bubble 9/10 you are also running Sanctuary, which is a decent bit of toughness replenishment that everyone can benefit from, but Sanctuary isn't 100% necessary and is more of a novelty.Both abilities work in havoc 40 but imo buble is more useful than shriek thanks to the defensive benefits it gives to the team.Also I do play as taunt ogryn in havoc and I like the buble because it keeps ranged enemies off me, but I like the passive toughness regen it can give me during a captain spawn since I'm most likely to pull aggro on it.
>>550930036Anon, damnation is not high difficulty
>havoc assignment dropped to 10grim>just do maelstromdoesn't even work lol
>>550929256>it isn't actually a hidden stat bar>it's again the guy who is stupid enough to be tanking crusher overheadsLearn to dodge and use BTL.
>>550930069based bubble enjoyeri will now provide you with cover and safe haven
>>550929924>Nerfed does not equal bad. This way of thinking is extremely stupid.It's more of how most players use outdated guides and think it's still some king shit. I can see the bleed being better in high-havocs than anything lower due to the sheer volume and density, too. I'll give it all a try (in middle of making the build up in-game now). What's the mod that shows your personal stats in detail such as your dog damagee, too? IIRC it isn't scoreboard but a different one. I'm still looking through nexus mods to find it, as I thought I had it bookmarked.
>>550930374Power-DI
>>550929753>I dont see any world where you dont want psyker to be bubble in hav40Shriek deals an absolute fuckload of damage and staggers shooters. A good shriek psyker is almost worth as much as a good bubble user. Bubbles don't last long.The only uniquely useful thing bubble does is stop flamers and bombers from fucking you over. Everything else, smoke grenades do better in every conceivable way, and I don't see any of you fags obsess over smoke grenades. In fact, you obsess over how bad it supposedly is because you never bothered to learn and understand how it works, nor will you ever, even when spoonfed.>but do I really not want bubble in h40I honestly don't care what ability my psyker uses, though I vaguely prefer shriek over the other two. I usually just accept the first one whose build doesn't look retarded, and if that's shriek, I'm happy, if it's bubble, my teammates are happy. Once you play enough havoc, you learn to make do without bubble.
>>550929838>Speak of shield dumps, how come it's always Defences vs Power OutputIt's unironically because Mister E made an arbites build months ago where he shilled dumping power output even though it is straight up retarded.From then on you have had retards here unironically shilling for defence in these threads.>but le crusher overheadDodge, retard.
>>550930249>isn't a hidden stat barBut it is, you dumb cunt.>>550930425https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/281That's it. Good shit, anon.
>>550930036>you can't always afford to be.You can. It's called being smart with your positioning.Also you do realize that you can stun all enemies with the shield flash? Yes, even crushers that are in their overhead telegraph animation.
>>550929963>>550930021>>550930463I just wanted to know why whenever people argued in favor of maxing Defeces, it was Power Output they dumped when CC seems like the best alternative. But if it was just mindless copying of youtuber shenanigans, that makes sense. I should've known there was no actual thought going into it.
>>550930463>Dodge, retard.Because you can't seem to rotate an apple in your head, let me explain an exact scenario that very much does happen>trapper shoots net>have to dodge trapper>but also a burster magically noclips through the crushers>push, dodge backwards>out of dodges, in fact, likely on penalty dodges>2 overheads come your way, slightly staggeredYou can't dodge that. You don't want to face tank that with True Grit either.The damage loss from dumping penetration only ever matters against carapace, which translates to +1 light attack to kill a havoc crusher, and that's it. You're not even the one killing them most of the time anyway. The correct dump stat is penetration.>>550930594See above.Of course you can stun everything with the shield flash. You should be using it often enough to almost constantly be on cooldown. Using it defensively to stop a crusher from hitting (You) is the idiotic part. You do it to buy room for teammates and save yourself by blocking those that you can't afford to dodge.Why are you trying so hard to call defense a bad stat? Skill issue this skill issue that, as if everyone can magically teleport around and be immune to bursters and trappers and snipers at the same time somehow. If anyone has a skill issue here, it's you needing 5% more damage against crushers with your epic 80% penetration.
>>550930760I'm the original anon here: >>550929256 >>550919039and I don't watch them. And you seem to be baiting with comments such as "I should've known there was no actual thought going into it." when nothing even points to Mister E, and that there have been bunch of discussion, ergo, "thought behind it". I haven't even see people bitch about one or the other about the shield, hell, I typically feel like the only prick that even uses the shield. Either stat are good choices to dump stat, hence why I originally dumped defences over power. Pic' to further illustrate how either choice is fuck-all difference. And as I originally said, there is a hidden stat within defences, this is objectively true, hence my original posts, and not a judgement on which is better or whatever.What a retarded general. Tiresome general.
>>550930496It is not a hidden stat bar at all. And this is not at all useful information.You are an arbites, you already stagger everything like an ogryn and can force staggers too with concussive.If you are blocking so much that you need 80% defence it means you are playing in an inefficient manner.And yes, trying block crushers is horribly inefficient way to deal with them.Instead you should be using BTL and putting all of them on their ass every 6-7 seconds thanks to all the CDR you get.
>>550931060Where in the picture does it point to block efficiency? I'll wait. Until you can answer this, all you've to say on the matter is void.
>>550930961I encourage you to dump penetration and run some actual TTK tests. It only affects crushers by needing +1 attack to the head. If it misses any other breakpoint, it's probably something retarded like hitting an armored rager after running out of hitmass, or similarly impossibly niche shit.
>>550930761>ablooblooDodge, retard.If you are playing arbites in aurics or H40 you should know how to dodge instead of playing like a malice player.
>>550931106Yeah I've been noticing this on some other weapons for other classes and have been keeping whatever 80/80/80/80/60s I find just incase, too. Hell I might just go and buy a shield with that stat now anyway.
>>550931132>aurics or H40LMAO what an equivalenceThat's one big fat concession if I've ever seen one. Kill yourself ASS-let.
>>550931085I never talked about block efficiency. I am talking about efficiency in gameplay over all.Blocking crushers is straight up retarded and the least efficient way to deal with them.Learn to read on top dodging.
>>550931216Read >>550931085Twice you've explicitly said there is no hidden stat, when, objectively and very plainly, there is. So until you can acknowledge this (and you default to being wrong), all you have to say on this topic is void.
>>550931216>dude just dodge the 5 crushers clipping into each other and the sniper and the burster and the dog and the 12 shotgunners and the 20 gunners shooting you all at the same time dude just dodge dude dodge learn to dodge blocking is useless dude it does literally nothing trust me I play havoc 20
>>550930961No, I'm not baiting. Dumping Power Output is colossally retarded. I would've expected that if someone were actually thinking, they'd explore every alternative before going there. Not once, in numerous discussions about Shield & Maul Defences, have I ever heard anyone talk about dumping another stat (until Penetration was mentioned directly above your post). Is it really surprising that I think it makes sense for people advocating for dumping Power Output with no thought otherwise to be potential youtuber parrots?The tie between BCR and Defences is good to point out. I'm just mystified that Power Output has always seemed to be so many people's first thought for a dump stat.
>aurics or H40Who the fuck says this. God damn we house some giga-retards.
>>550931401>Who the fuck says this.Dunning-Krugroids who just got their first clutch in a lights out auric game and think their shit doesn't stink.
>>550930961>only just looked at the pictureThe math for your range and angle calculations is misleading. You should be calculating the area instead.Also>-22% push costIs this why I see people complaining about running out of stamina on the shield somehow? I've always run 80% and I've never struggled with the push cost. I just spam the push attack sometimes for safety, and I rarely even run out of stamina lol.
>>550931401It means endgame you absolute mongoloids.Its amazing how tilted it makes you.
>>550931802>he's still going
>>550930961>>550931106If you're going to be dumping a stat other than defences it should be Crowd Control, it has the least practical impact. Doesn't even affect any interrupt breakpoints.
>>550931802>even pretending that aurics and havoc 40 can be equivalentSo what you're saying is that you're so shit at the game, they're effectively the same for you because you got hardstuck before even hitting damnation, correct?
>>550931802Auric isn't endgame though compared to H40, they're two very different games.
>>550931889Thanks for letting everyone know you are bad at the game. Havoc 40 is easy and I true survivor it 9/10 times. You pretending like its so much harder than Auric is showing how shit you are lmao
>>550931834>1.5 heavy attack stagger>1.2 light attack staggerWithout extensive testing, I'd still rather lose 5% damage on a crusher than fail to stagger it on the class that is supposed to stagger things. I don't know for sure how big of a difference this makes, on what targets, if any, because testing for havoc is a bitch and requires elaborate mod setups, but I feel like the stagger is much more important.
>>550931920Auric is the endgame of the normal gameplay.Havoc, as you say, is a very different gamemode. Havoc 40 is the endgame of Havoc.I don't know how this shitfest started, but it's reasonable to consider both endgame.
>>550931920There are (0) people playing havoc40 all day.You get your weekly done and play aurics.If you say otherwise you are a lying f-slur + n-slurAuric is essentially the endgame and Havoc is slightly harder weekly. If you have a shitter on team.
>>550931306>Dumping Power Output is colossally retarded>posts the most obvious bait>I'm not baitingyeah you still got a reply from me, can't stand retarded shitters like you
>>550932063Because they're not equivalent and you're treating them as if they are.
>>550931960Post "The Insane" penance progress. The game tracks it. Let's see that 30/1. Go on, faggot. Prove that you're not just baiting. C'mon, no-balls. Bet you won't. Know you can't.
>>550932115You just raped his brown ass
>>550932067Ok, anon. Enjoy dumping the stat that represents a huge part of why you chose the weapon in the first place. I'm sure missing 2 meters and 5 degrees on your flash will never have a drawback.
>>550929826Unless Grendyl/Rannick for whatever reason decides to save his life
>>550932115ok logging in now
I dump penetration and keep power output and defence.
>>550932102No, I'm not. I wasn't involved in whatever the fuck you guys were discussing until that post. And just because both are a form of endgame doesn't inherently mean they're equivalent or comparable. Auric is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for Havoc and it'll remain as such no matter how much you piss and moan otherwise.
dump this dodge that how about i take a dump on your back heresy hardstuck faggot >dodge this
>thread always speeds up so the overt arguing at this timeNoticing.
>>550932139>I'm sure missing 2 meters and 5 degrees on your flash will never have a drawback.Anon, I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure this is in fact objectively correct. The kind of drooling retard to suggest dumping power output does so because they never use the flash. I barely ever see the flash used in aurics. This general struggles above heresy.
>>550932115>>550932135>>550932176I stopped playing with arbite release by the way and still probably have more penances than you lmao
>>550932247>Auric is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for HavocDamnation is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for Auric.Heresy is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for Damnation.Malice is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for Heresy.Uprising is the endgame for anyone who doesn't care for Malice.Do you see the issue? Just admit you goofed up, a bruised ego is better than getting your ass prolapsed by every anon in the thread and becoming an example for the next several months. Don't die on this hill, man, it's not worth it.
>>550932312kek
>>550932354"The Insane", anon.The penance for True Survivor.The thing you claimed to get 9/10 times.You should have that at 30, or above.Also my penances are 100%ed, fuck off nigger.
>>550932414>objective endgame is the same as subjective endgame okay dude
>>550932431Are you so retarded that you cannot see I have 100%'d havoc and the only ones left are doing literally any level havoc x amount of times?Lmao you lost, kys
>>550932452Guess you are gonna die on this hill. Auric is not the objective endgame, H40 is. There can only be one endgame.
>>550932414>conveniently ignores the fact that Havoc and regular difficulty scaling are two very different entities (by his own admission, assuming you're the same anon) I see you've resorted to fallacyposting. I'll raise you one, "lol retard." Your move, Yugi boy.
FINALLY completed a rolling steel mission this patch.
>>550932495>agreeing with me nice to see you finally saw the light, retard. there is only one endgame and thats h40
>>550932139>>550932312>>550932420>a drooling retard who doesn't know how to push getting uppityI want this discord raid to end
>>550932557Was it fun?
>>550931960>Havoc 40 is easy and I true survivor it 9/10 times.>>550932483You said you true survivor havoc 40 at a 9/10 rate.Let's see your "The Insane" penance, which tracks how many times you have gotten true survivor.C'mon, substantiate your claim. At 84/100, that should read at least 76/1 true survivor completions.
>>550932616>everyone who disagrees with me is raiding!!!1 :(
>>550932629>noo you didnt' play level 1 havoc 5 more times, YOU'RE BADlmao, cope and seethe NWORD
>>550932660>Havoc 40 is easy and I true survivor it 9/10 times.Your claim, anon. Substantiate it.
>>550932704>POST YOUR PENANCES BRO>NOOO THATS NOT PROOF>I REQUIRE (DIFFERENT) EVIDENCE NOW!Frick the FRUCK off, mother freakerI won , I fricken won and you lost
>>550932704He obviously can't. He's too busy acting like a retarded child and acting like if he ignores the blatantly false claim he made, we'll somehow just forget that he's full of shit.
>>550932753>posts the wrong thing>twice>claims it's proof>I le wonCan we please just nuke India or do what China did and firewall off all the literal shitholes or something?
Im becoming rather fond of the lil blue lasgun variant.Really completes the Moebian 21st kit.
>>550932861That the fast-firing one? I liked that one, but the hitreg problems have really turned me off lasguns entirely. It's fucking infuriating playing a head-clicking weapon when some substantial-enough-to-be-noticed percentage of headshots don't register.
>>550932923Agreed, but it makes up for it by sheer volume of fire.If the first one doesn't connect, the other 6 will!
>>550932798It doesn't track anything retard
>>550933026Well it definitely doesn't for you because you haven't completed true survivor more than once, if at all.
>>550933069Show me yours then liar?You going to photoshop a fake tracker on it?lmao
>>550933026>doesn't bother posting an image to show that he has it and that it, indeed, isn't trackingA little more effort, please
>>550933113I have nothing to prove.>>550931960>Havoc 40 is easy and I true survivor it 9/10 times.This anon does.
>>550932064I play h40 after workI can recognize a good number of names on my region that play h40 daily.I think it's fun.
okay I won then, you lost, you cant even show a completed havoc 40 penance lmao
Havoc 40 is easy and I true survivor it 9/10 times.
>>550932354Retard
Havoc 40 is easier than auric. The most difficult content in the game is havoc 25-34
>show your penances bro>ohhh no you showed them wrong bro>I require video evidence nowlmao kys, cant even show your own penances because you got owned so hard, wheres the anon claiming you ass rape brownoids now? lmaoyou lost
Havoc 40 isn't hard provided you don't get fucked by spawns or get outright bad teammates.
>>550933352This is unironically true sometimes, and I find it fucking disturbing. I've had easier, smoother, and faster havoc 40 runs than I've had some auric runs.
>>550933391You showed the wrong one and basically spread your brown asshole for all to rape
>>550933441You made up a fake tracker, you're literally retarded
>>550933391Did you just seethe so hard you quoteless replied twice back to back? Yikers.
Yeah but anyways, imagine if ogryn got cool weapons
>>550932261>>550932272this this this so much this
>>550933413Not surprising given the average skill of players in each. Havoc filters shitters a lot better than Auric. I just wish I liked Havoc more. The increased spawns and stuff are great, but I don't like the gay Mythic+ affix shit or how the enemy stat changes and the EFL2 ammo nerf both stymie variety. I long for a difficulty to succeed Auric that's just High Intensity High Intensity with more enemies, more elites, and more monsters, basically Havoc without stat changes.
>>550933473Ass Status>BrownYes [X] No [ ]>RapedYes [X] No [ ]
>>550933640>basically Havoc without stat changes.Unfortunately everyone including likely fatshark will just point you to havoc 20-ish.I just want teammates that aren't complete fucking sub-humans, but there's something about darktide that attracts literally the dumbest individuals that dwell this earth, so without aggressive filtering and gatekeeping, it's borderline impossible to have a team without at least 1 player so retarded their very existence amounts to griefing. That's the real reason I play havoc 40: Avoiding the shitters.
>>550933764Post the penance tracker of you ass raping brown asses. I'll wait.
>>550933872I have the Assbreaker title after raping 1 million brown asses
>>5509340601 million and 1
>>550933783>Unfortunately everyone including likely fatshark will just point you to havoc 20-ish.Fucking gross. At that point, I'd rather regrind to 40. I usually don't mind shitters in Aurics unless they are actually griefing somehow, but fuck me if I'm playing the 20s and dealing with games where all 3 retards can't block+dodge, so I'm left with a horde and 2-3 monsters/captains/twins. Barrel me at that point.
>>550934060>>550934119>no prooftypical of a liar
>>550934181>no proofCheck your asshole
There are better ways to keep the thread bumped.
>>550933352havoc 26-34 is harder than havoc 40 but auric is notAuric is baby difficulty that anyone who can clear havoc 21 with a premade can solo carryDebatable for maelstroms, some modifiers are about the same difficulty as havoc 21, but if it doesn't have nurgle's blessing it's not much different from regular aurics
>izzat warSo who's winning? I'm having trouble keeping score
>>550934998discord raid is taking casualties but they are going strong pretending to play havoc 40 still
>>550935115Don't see why anyone would insist on pretending, H40 is pretty up there, I haven't even made it past H20 because I'm scared of applying and being rejected. Is it really an issue if you're not the best that ever was?
>havoc 40 is easier than auricsAurics would be even easier if you brought your havoc team and tactics
Just bought the Judge Dredd DLC. Give me a funny character name for my Arbites.
>>550935294current havoc should be easy because they massively buffed lingering dodge and removed rotting armorI still don't want to sit in the party finder for hours finding a run though, and my havoc assignment is back to 16 because I skipped multiple seasonsThey were pretending all the time though, including the stimmd rotting armor asscancer season
>>550935584Judge Spedd (play poorly) to fit the roll (your natural skill level)
>>550935584TheLawn
>>550935649>and my havoc assignment is back to 16 because I skipped multiple seasonsI thought it just dropped you to 30 and sat there once you'd completed a 40. Mine was at 30 on Arby launch even though I only did the first season of Havoc. Or was there just not another season in between the two?
>>550935584Lex-Offender
>>550935584Hyper-Lexual
>>550935781it removes 10 ranks from your assignment every season and I didn't even launch the game between finishing arbites penances and hiv cum release
>>550935584Rittenhus
>>550935859Fucking hell
>>550935906Well to be more accurate, if you complete 1 mission and go from 20 to 21, it will reset you to the latest checkpoint (20)but if you don't play like me, it will reset you from 20 to 10
>>550935584WACO Officer
>>550935584Pinkerton
>>550936008Oh that does sound familiar. Maybe I'll take my chances with party finder and see if anyone takes me to a 30+ tomorrow. >inb4 hostI can't be fucked to host and sort through people's talents.
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>haven't played for a while>finished leveliing my hive scum exclusively playing stub pistols>my Havoc rank is now 10
>>550931920>Auric isn't endgame though compared to H40If you've gotten into auric difficulty and still can't dodge and think blocking crusher overheads at all is a good idea, objectively makes you a shitter.
Holy shit the rocket launcher sucks, takes age to actually shoot>>550936254which region and rank
in an alternate timeline, Darktide is a game about a rogue trader's personal execution team, includes a sister of battle and xenos at launch, and is about fighting orksthere's also no jewish people in that timeline, but that's surely a coincidence
>>550930761>>trapper shoots net>>have to dodge trapper>>but also a burster magically noclips through the crushers>>push, dodge backwards>>out of dodges, in fact, likely on penalty dodges>>2 overheads come your way, slightly staggeredUse BTLorUse shield FlashorUse the dog pounceorUse remote detonateorUse an Arbites Grenade>muh busters + crushersUse True Grit, retard.You needing to make this longwinded made up scenario just proves to me that you're straight up retarded and play like a retard and you're just on top Mt. Stupid of Dunning-KrugerBlocking crusher overheads is retarded. Learn to dodge.
>>550936284yeah you can bump it to 16 by completing a maelstrom, but only after you speak to dukaneI'm in the same boat (though I have other games to play lol)
Swedes should have made hive scum use nurglites' weapons, like that belt fed machinegun or tox flamer. It would make pickpocket make sense and actually be cool.
Hunt showdown is actually pretty good
>>550937228I liked it more in beta desu
I wish for a full copeg lobby one day joining my havoc
>>550937378Yeah, everything was better in beta. Audio was better. Sway on weapons was better. HIgher damage dropoff was better. UI was better (because there was no skins and dirty weapons bullshit). Shitty blue filter they added also sucks.Hopefully you don't mean the time when higher hunter tier gave you more hp though.
>invite a plasma veteran to your havoc>explicitly see that they are killing literally every gunner and special on screen>rush ahead of them and grab all of the ammo for your revolverhow are these people real
>>550937469code
>>550935584Judge-Breathtaker
>>550937052It makes sense for braced autoguns too. Dreg range enemies use them but actually try to aim them. desu it should make enemies drop a unique ammo pouch on the floor that can only be seen and picked up (automatically) by the associated Scum, and gives ammo more comparable to veteran aura per pickup. And doesn't work with the scum ammo aura.
I went with Lexative but thanks for all the inspiration.
>>550937717Not needed any more now that infinite ammo scum exist
>>550937717It's even worse when people see the vet making everything easier by focusing gunners and specials down and then refuse to keep melee attackers off of them, and then you wipe because the vet is busy killing trash to keep himself alive instead of any actual threats.
>>550937961Well you clearly don't understand that my ego is more important than winning, so I need to kill the most.
>>550937997I wish we could turn friendly fire on
>>550937851>Lexative okay that's pretty good
>>550938105Learn to use barrels. According to last thread they are the most dangerous environmental devices that do nothing but sabotage runs.
>>550936980it indeed worked. Rampage is fun but fuck sake the debuff after is brutal>>550938105>plays a cooperation game as a misanthrope>doesn't have the balls to actually play pvp because he'd get his ass kicked
>>550938323>completely ignore the reason for the misanthropic sentiment
Dukane is probably the worst VA I've ever heard
>>550938929Doodookane
>>550938929She's trying too hard to sound vostroyan, but that's why it works, vostroyans literally do sound like bastardised space russians, not actual russians. Grimdark.
>have stimm supply scum in my maelstrom>doesn't take fast acting stimms???
Which is better on the mk8 exterminator shotgun?Punishing Salvo (+50% weakspot damage on 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots)Or Sustained Fire (+20% damage on 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots)I guess PS if you are confident in clicking heads and SF if you aren't as good at head shotting?
>>550940028It's easy to click heads with a shotgun. Sustained Fire is more for magdumping crowds of trash.
>>550940128>magdumping crowds of trash.Now THIS is tide gameplay.
>>550940256This is a waste of ammo, do not actually do this unless you're scum and have pickpocket.
>>550940128>>550940256>>550940380But using the duckbill shotgun to fire into a crowd of trash is fun. :(
>>550940380Just kill some elites and sepcials, bro. I will replenish 1% of your ammo for every elite and special kill :) just promise to stagger the kills by 5 seconds bro :)
>>550938929she sounds like a fucking BUG
THE ELF HAS PERISHED
>Dude starts cherry picking talent choices in voice chat of other dude while waiting for a fourth in havoc>game starts, he dies two times and quits while playing stance vet
>>550940028For bossing alongside Full Bore? Sustained Fire is gonna be better unless you're confident in being able to both position and aim for repeated weakspot hits on a moving boss while lots of other shit's going on. But consider High Voltage if you run dog with Voltaic Mandibles (I think that interaction works, but check just in case)
Just finished my first maelstorm mission and was thinking about going into havoc... Why does nobody join my lobby...
>>550942824Trust. You don't have any.
>>550904297i played the game to death as well, always tried to get my friends to buy the game but they weren´t interested. now the game was free and they all got it, everyone of them got addicted and is having a blast. did our first cata mission some days ago, was great hearing them flip out when they saw how big chaospatrols are. we pulled it
i've seen videos of people getting the penance where you have to knock multiple niggas off a ledge so easily but its so miserable for me to get. it takes so fucking long for a horde to spawn to begin with and by the time it does i'm already at 10% health because of snipers and ogry gunners and shit, because i've been afk. and then i must get literally one too few pushed off a once every single time.
it happened again its so fucking over
>>550944338Have you considered throwing yourself off the ledge WITH the enemies? It could work.
>>550944338Just spam Lightsout on Hab Drekyo or Archivum Sycorax until you get the mass poxwalker spawn at the start. Could of sworn the number required used to be much higher.
rant post, nothing to see here.How come i can play a game of auric maelstrom with 3 actual real noobs, and it's a perfectly coordinated endeavor where everyone seem to know exactly where to go and how to respond to every situation. but then I try h40...>everyone is True Survivor>everyone has sick frames and insignias>everyone has optimized meta builds>everyone has high true level>everyone is clearance rank 40and it's the most uncoordinated suicidal unresponsive clusterfuck imaginable. Like some virus has infected my teammate's brains and deleted all map knowledge. They don't know where to go. They can't stick together. Pinging doesn't work. Pinging and pushing with Chorus doesn't work. Typing in chat doesn't work. Friendly voice reminders don't help. We have 2x golden toughness + bubble. Our only win condition is WASD to the fucking elevator. But it can't be done. I've seen lab rats memorize a path through a labyrinth in a few days, yet my teammates still don't know where to go after years of playing the same mission 1000 times. how is your day going anons?
>>550945173I stopped doing havocs this "season"either I am stuck for half hour picking candidates like I am hiring someone for a job or bruteforce advancement by losing multiple ranks and climb back with 1-2 ranks to spare before falling back againthis system is designed to drain you, doesn't help of they decide to enforce arbitrary rank reset or drop you 10 ranks because they really needed to nerf base classes again for some reasondoesn't help that modifiers are also antifun not touching that gsme mode agsin
>>550940469It's fine. As long as the team doesn't run out of ammo... it literally doesn't matter what you spend it on. I don't see the point of saving ammo all game only to return to the Mourningstar with 2 ammo crates. Might as well get the satisfaction of spending it.
>>550944338>cliffhangered on the cliffhangerPottery
>>550863380The psyker's crit aura stacks with the hive scum's crit aura and the crit bonus from the blazing piety subnode that buffs allies. If you luck out into a team running all 3 you can get a massive +20% crit chance just by staying in coherency.
>>550942824Nobody wants to play the 1-10 difficulties, your best bet is trying to join a level 15 match and win, it raises your trust level instantly to 15 then you can eventually climb your assignment level to what you are actually playing
Thrust or headtaker on thammer? on Havoc your special attack doesnt oneshot shit without thrust
>>550945173Noobs depend on teamplay to survive, so their situational awareness includes you, the other team members, objectives and map geometry. When you're good enough to hit True Survivor, it's because you're a one man army whose only focus is to kill and nothing else, and a team of one man armies doesn't work well.
>>550839481I feel like you don't get medpacks enough for this to be all that worth it
>>550947097i think you nailed it
>>550947073I usually use Thrust + Headtaker, although I am a casul Auric enjoyer
>>550940028Personally i run Scattershot and Deathspitter. Punishing Salvo in my experience is most useful when you are in range (and angle) to meatshot a Bulwark's head, but then you could also just use just use your melee weapon
i enjoy how nobody ever types anything unless its some RP kind of stuff about heresy or the emperor or what have you, or just saying nice try or gg or thanks or something.its the kind of mostly asocial that i enjoy. rather than people just never saying anything unless its to shit talk. if people are going to barely ever type and never use voice chat, this is the way to do it.
>>550948520>esl
>>550948763i suppose you're one of the few people i have blocked then little buddy.
>>550948520This isn't really a game that gives you time to type, and people leave the post-mission screen pretty quick, so there's only time for a gg. Maybe if you're down you've got time to chat, but it's common courtesy to not distract anyone with your inane babbling unless you're warning them.
>>550847473>>550848079>>550848504I wish doctordj drew slimmer women
>>550949695I agree, but every other multiplayer shooter I play is the same, you don't have much time. But people will make time to yap constantly in those sometimes. I think its mostly that this is a PvE game. So ego's aren't getting hurt by other players, plus there are only 3 other people rather than 2 teams. Games as a whole have definitely gotten much more asocial though. Its faggots in discord chats, paired with a general loss of trust in wider society as every first world country has become more and more foreign and totalitarian.
>>550949995>Its faggots in discord chatsThat hurts, anon.
>>550944338https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su22pMzqbhU
>>550950061Don't worry you're obviously fine if you use it despite itself. Like I think to praise such a piece of shit spyware is insane, but if its just because its convenient to talk to your IRL friends, thats completely fine. And again, darktide doesn't really apply here. But in other games, discord groups will definitely do the worst in a team, and then blame the only guy who isn't in their call.
fucking ogryn in full havoc cosmetics and title folded by a bunch of poxwalkers in a stair in fuckin rolling steel lmaoOh sorry, the horde had ONE scab rager in it :o)I'm seeing a pattern with "true survivors"
>>550951583he's on autopilot while drunk or high.
>>550951583>I'm seeing a pattern with "true survivors"doesn't mean anything. for the longest time people used a mod to auto-leave when they went down so it wouldn't count then rejoin as if nothing happened.after years flabbyflounder added a measure against that by having them spawn in holding areas to be revived.
>>550952194Are you retarded?
>see grenade pickup>2/4 chem grenades>throw them so it's not wasted entirely>zealot took it for his shitty flame nade
90% of the Darktide playerbase would have way more fun by staying in Malice difficulty. There I said it.
>>550952813yeah I am. I was thinking of another penance. its 5am. gimme a break.
>>550954117It's ok sorry for yelling at you *smooch* go to bed.
>>550954117good night anon sleep well
>>550951583Seeing that his true level is only 81 on ogryn, the guy definetly got the title on another class first and then just put it on his ogryn.
>shitters wiping on aurics over and over again>my problem? The ttue survivor on our team. He's keeping us 3 from winning.the funniest cope so far
>>550935670>>550935765I laughed>>550936254Make sure you win or else>>550938929Nah she’s fine it’s just the nasty attitude and direction she’s been given she’s actually pretty good in other things
>>550957860No she's horrid
>>550954117>5amgrim>>550948520>>550949695>>550949995All true and good points. I find myself yearning for the open mic fps days of the early 2010s from time to time where it was a mixed bags of hostility and friendliness but they’re probably never coming back at this point
>>550958575I wouldn't worry about it, things have a way of just coming back when enough people want it badly enough. I didn't think I'd see anyone get nostalgic over polaroid cameras, but I've seen a bunch of people going around with those including my niece, and they were before her time. There's a few video games out there deliberately going for the older graphics style, and you see an echo of the old open mic shenanigans with in-game proximity chat, so who knows, you might start seeing it more and more frequently as the years go by. You're just ahead of the curve on the nostalgia.
>>550954117The Lex does not give breaks. You will be in top form at all times. The Lex must be upheld and all must abide by it. Time does not matter to the Lex.
>>550959029Is it weird that I genuinely want to see skaven in 40k cosplay?
>>550959314no, it is a rather common sentimentGW disagrees however for the most part
>>550959593GW disagrees with literal free marketing
>>550959593And good thing GW disagrees.Only people who want skaven in 40k are furfags.
>The LEX is the LEX!Well I sure hope it would beIt would greatly disturb me if my chair turned out to be a tuna fish
>>550961026Fuck your chair, nigga
>>550951583>I'm seeing a patterndoesn't matter when the AI director own zones you with 8 poxwalkers clipping through each other
>>550959593>>550959969both true
>mister pee finally found out about melee scum>he got so much of it wrong I can't even laugh
>>550961596Post your scum if you're so great.
>>550961596Post your cum if you're so great.
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>>550962726BOMBORAAT!
>>550961596I wish he just posted links to his tree so I could look at it without listening to his yappingI also wish darklantern had funny statistics like how many builds have slippery customer, he doesn't take it but I would still like to know
>classes are being dropped back to back now, new class after hive scum is already referenced in the files>this is because Fatshark realized they can abuse their "free content except for paid classes" by just spam adding new classes instead of making free content>but it's still better than before because they weren't adding shit anyway so now we at least have the paid classesgrim
>>550962726Opening up-up stupid man-thing!
>>550963551just imagine, they wanted it to be two times worse than this at launch before they realized no one would go along with that
>>550963551I hope they'll at least add maps and some kind of campaign progression with the classes now. God, what am I saying? Is the bar really that low?
>>550951583True Survivors eating shit in lower difficulties absolutely does happen, but the pattern that you're not seeing are the likely 8-9/10 times the True Survivor carries you because you're overwhelmed fighting 2 poxwalkers yourself.You are experiencing confirmation bias because you're mad and bad and jealous for not having it. >inb4 this is le proof that True Survivor doesn't matterCool, how come you don't have it?
Uh oh.. False Survivor is havin a melty lmao
If it's so easy to get, how come you don't have it, anon?
>>550963551>new classes that add different playstyles and new weapons>somehow a bad thing
I want true survivor...
Untrue Survivor....
>>550964275>they intended to release multiple new classes a year, for free, until the truth magically changed>several old weapons are still barely usable dogshit>half of all weapons have at least 1 completely mandatory blessing to make the weapon usableNew weapons are cool and all, but imagine if the heavy sword were usable.
Truly Got Carried
>>550964275wow we can run the same five maps...but as a homeless person instead of a cop now!!!it only cost $24!
>>550963542>I wish he just posted links to his tree so I could look at it without listening to his yappingHe intentionally doesn't because he's engagement farming.Youtube is more likely to push your content based on numerous things, including viewer retention, which is more or less>how many seconds/minutes does a viewer stick around with the video before clicking off or closing the tabBy not including an easy link, he buys himself viewer retention from people who would know well enough to just view his dogshit build at a glance and then immediately discard it for being dogshit.Also it's technically lower effort to just record yourself yapping a stream of thoughts. This faggot uses no script, doesn't properly edit his videos, and in general feels like 70% of his runtime is just humming and hawing to pad his videos for ad revenue. Either that, or he really is slow in the head.
>>550965419>pad his videos for ad revenueeh, he has gameplay footage for that, doesn't really need any other padding
>3 out of top 5 gameslantern scum builds take slippery customer>1 of the 2 that don't takes adrenaline keystone>the remaining one is a braindead mash of every talent related to toxin and stimms, even has blessed stimms>still seems to be the best build out of 5grim
>>550964275>somehow a bad thingcan you point out where in my post I even remotely said anything like that?
>>550966173Slippery customer is good and all but I don't use it either because I have VD to do the same but better. But you're probably going to come up with some retarded cope about how VM is bad because you'd rather build to be useless against crushers by needlessly spamming your stimmt for dependency instead of hitting 5k+ DPS against them and monsters
>>550966554>Slippery customer is good and all but I don't use it either because I have VD to do the same but betterNot sure what are you talking about, neither of these are goodBoth put you into a "dodging" state which means enemies who target you in melee will not track you when swinging so you can move out of the wayVD is whatever, it can still be useful to dodge gunners but dodging gunners is not hard on scumSlippery customer effectively does nothing because you dodge ranged when sliding anyway, and it doesn't help with melee at all because if you slide near an attack, it will still hit you, and if you slide away from attack, you don't need to be "dodging" (or sliding already does that, not sure, I don't see any difference with or without slippery customer whatsoever).
>>550944435this is a joke but...>relay station trs-150>giant fan section>fucking around near the fan throwing enemies into it because it's funny>mutie grabs me and throws me into the fan blade>instadeath>buddy gets penance for throwing ten enemies into the fanlol
>>550964275>new weapons>for 12$ + taxNo thanks.
the darktide browser addon to see the storeis it broken or just discontinued?
>>550967728>playing shopclick in currentyearIt's not worth it, just gamble your melkbux for curios dude
>>550967815fair yeah
>>550967728armory? I haven't used it since the crafting rework but I assume both
>>550963554>>550964210>>550964360>>550964394>>550964434i can agree with all of these in a wag
>>550968073One of these things is not like the others
>>550926845Dead space tide game when
>>550958227In DT yes but in stuff like Dying Light she’s good
The biggest IQ check is putting an ammo crate down in mortis trials. I just had a guy who took 10 charges total, and we were all red ammo by the end of it. It's not that he needed it, he was just not understanding the concept of "don't take it until you're red ammo because it's not going anywhere" and just spam emptied them.
>>550969967>putting an ammo crate down in mortis trialsYou're right, but anyone who plays darktide knows that its players are incredibly retarded, so it's your fault for even letting him have the option of sucking up all the ammo.I don't put down ammo crates unless someone is literally empty because I know some retard is going to waste all of it.
>>550969967Sometimes i take ammo when i don't need it that much because i know some retard might waste all 4 charges before i can get any
>>550970140To be fair I was playing pickpocket hiv cum so I didn't give a shit about it until the very end, I just assumed there'd be one charge left by the time we bossrush so I can magdump them not making that mistake next time, I'll be jewing a crate to the very end
>>550968407We shall call it… DEADTIDE!!!!
>>550959969Humans are already the skaven of 40k>one of the most populous races in the galaxy>backstabbing retards>mad scientist retards>warmongering retards>warp manipulating retards
>>550973165That describes at least two other races as well
