merry tubmas editionuseful links for poo1 and poo2:pathofexile.comgrok.comtwitch.tvpath of building (link can be found on github)previous map>>550736972
TOXIC TAINTED TUNDRA 2
You linked the wrong thread retard
D4 won. Debate me. You won't.
i can feel it......mmhm.....a TRVKE....... that will change the arpg scene for ever..........
>>550841386TRI DON'T DO IT
>>550841079/poe2g/ and /poeg/ are at war. Two games, two generals
frogmode lostice frog won
bump
https://youtu.be/-MLmpKS-JCI?si=o4iEiy03RFdNQA50It just works.
/poeg/ is dead
>>550842654and HE killed us
freedom is near
>>550842654(this is a buff)
dead gamedead game 2dead general
THE PLAYERCOUNT STABILIZED ITS BEEN THE SAME TWO DAYS IN A ROWTHE GAME IS SAVED
Admit it...you hate that Ruetoo bullied Tri out of the community. Even though you hated Tri.
PoEbabs... our weekend bump...
How does one flush a tub?
Nerf Witchhunter
>>550843054164k is almost poe1 peak LMAO
>>550842984its the weekend
Jonathan gave Zaccie full balance authority on Poop 2. It's Jonathan's fault that Poop 2 died on the vine.
>>550843165Sure needs a nerf.Do /deaths
>>550843054day 8 ccu higher than 90% of poe1s league launches. i just don't see poe1 lasting more that 2 years at this point.
>>550843178>>550843287the new shiny highly marketed game barely does the numbers of the 15 year old game they are desperately trying to kill>this is a good thing
I feel like Detonate Dead is underrated. Obviously it is not really a boss skill cause of it requiring a corpse, but on any mechanic that spawns monsters or forces you to stay in an area, it is insane. It has huge AoE and does a shitload of damage.Even on juiced abyss monsters, if you just spam detonate dead on the hole they come out if it one shots everything and then if a rare doesn't die it gets stunned.
>>550843178its barely more than settlers had at this point of the league we are actually getting close to the point of poe2 dipping below settlers numbersits fucking overpoe2 failedjonathan lost and needs to be incarcerated for defrauding investorspoe1 would have better numbers than poe2 right now if they hadnt abandoned itabsolute waste of time
>>550843440I would play DD if there was a single skill that generated corpses. The minion explode thing is way too fucking jank and way too shitty to get going
>>550843564watch them go>but settlers had all the poo2 hype going for it of course this happens
>>550843584poe2 has no desecrate?
>>550843706no
>>550843706What do you think? Guardrails all around.
If they just made PoE 2 good instead of dogshit people wouldn't have to pretend that they like the game. They would actually like the game and play it enthusiastically. Right now only mazed schizo autists and third world RMTers play the game.
Holy shit this league is boring, i leveld druid to 90 and got bored the fuck out of it, re-leveled CoC metabitch and now im bored again. Theres nothing to do man, when does the 3.28 drop?
>>550843830GGG can't make a good game when they try to make a good game.They only make good things when they put no effort into it. And by god, right now they are trying!
>>550843427>BarelyRetard
Regal workbench poggies
We heard you, exiles.In 0.5, we are adding the Desecrate Witch skill gem. Consume a lightning infusion and a power charge to spawn a corpse charged with electricity that spreads shocked ground when exploded with the Detonate Dead Witch spell.Consume a cold infusion and a frenzy charge to spawn a frozen corpse which explodes in a barrage of ice projectiles when you cast Detonate Dead on it.Or consume a fire infusion and an endurance charge to spawn a fire corpses which acts as a flame wall for projectiles flying through it.We can't wait to see what combos you will come up with.Note: Desecrate can not be used without a matching infusion and charge.
>>550843285(it was my league start)
>>550844034>this thing needs a nerflmao, retard
>>550842984Fun fact, the player numbers might increase because it's Christmas. This has happened before in Path 1.
>>550844276yeah but poe1 was actually good when that happened (affliction league)
>>550843427the state of poe1 right now is exactly what people wanted and keepers wasn't a bad league.
>>550844276how? are americans actually working on monday and tuesday?
I updated my steam view. It's still negative.
poe1 is boring as shitpoe2 is boring as shitsimple as
>>550844373>no endgame rework>breach butchered>massively nerfed endgame farmsyeah, people wanted just that.
I'm sorry bros, I logged in.
How many versions of blackjaw are we on now?
haven't played since the first league. any fun builds you guys running to get me back into the game
>>550844563TalkativeTri would be very upset at your negative attitude if he saw your post right now!
really really really love this act, it's so good wow!
>>550844373>copeReality is poe1 state everyone wanted was mix of poe1 and poe2.1 games 2 campaigns was what promised2 games 2 campaigns was delivered>nobody-Everybody cheered for PoE 4.0. A lot were disappointed with split.Current PoE1 is NOT the state players wanted.PoE2 is also NOT.
I'm thinking I'll play albion online until the next season come out, if poe1 was 20gb I'd play it but I don't feel like downloading 60gb
Nothing fucking happened. This league's retention isn't great because:1. The free weekend inflated Jonathon's numbers so he could look good2. It has the same lame duck end game that no one wants to spend time doing serious investigation, deep diving, exploration, or anything in.PoE2 is fun, but this gay ass atlas at the end isn't and they know that. However, until these retards change it no one is gonna really care about doing end game cause we know it is totally getting remade.They should have focused on the endgame rework instead of druid but that is not want Tencent wants cause you can't really market an endgame rework to normalfags, but you can market a bear.
that post is such poor bait i wont give it a (You)do better i would suggest not saying anything positive about keepers, it makes it too obvious. enlightened folx knew it was trash the nanosecond it was shown in the reveal, midwits realized it when they got to maps and even the most senile redditor got tired of it eventuallylean more into the narrative where its a weekend games and you can kill ubers in ssfhc on day1 or something maybe do the level 100 on a 4 link thing that one always makes me smile
>>550844505>i want the endgame to be reworked! >they reworked the endgame and i hate it!what kind of endgame rework are you looking for exactly?
>>550842989tri will be back, he's just piety signaling and going back to work because his grift ran short. A stinky league makes the shills go back to the wage cage
>>550844095>judging by death countwith my shitty pc im fighting invisible bosses half the time, most deaths are due to that! :-)
wuWON
Larry is balding.
>>550844782I actually thought the split was a good idea at the time because I anticipated both games being worked on and their explanation of needing to decouple them to totally change melee and the gameplay seemed rational.However, what has actually happened is that PoE2 is being worked on while PoE1 is exclusively given repurposed PoE2 assets and systems. Meanwhile, PoE2's content is released slowly without being iterated on. Let me put it like this: the Incursion/Temple/Atziri JUST got released and it feels like an old mechanic that is gonna get remade because everything in it is worthless except for like 2 items. That is what old league mechanics in PoE1 are like, that is not what a NEW mechanic in PoE2 should be like.
>>550844918They want whatever Jungroan, Ruetoo, and Fubgun tell them that they want.
now we are getting somewhere, i like the endgame thing, maybe mix in the 3.26 endgame expansion thing as wellcould say something about phrecia but you have to careful how you word it, the player numbers look low on paper but it was a very well liked league by those who got into it and its dangerous to suggest that poe1 could get that many players with a league that has basically 0 effort put into it
It just occurred to me that incinerate was probably nerfed on totems because someone made an ignite totem build on infernalist and circumvented the downsides on grinning immolation. Anyone have another contender for this abuse case?
>>550844782everyone rejected what poe4.0 was going to be. they said starting in ultimatum they were going to start nerfing poe1 to bring it inline with the poe4.0 vision, that last 2 leagues and the playercount cratered and they lost 30% of their revenue.
>>550844918what kind of argument is that? i want endgame reworked like they promised and didn't deliver. that goes for both games.>actual new bosses>actual new atlas mechanicsmemories were just them reusing the already existing (dogshit) memory system, that's not an endgame rework. saying it was is just an argument in bad faith.
>>550844809its not just the endgame. fixing that is easycasuals are getting tired of doing the campaign and thats a big problem
>>550845006if your build was actually op you wouldn't die to invisible bosses.
I just wish they would update Incursion in PoE1, it's probably my favorite mechanic to play but it's so god damned obsolete
>>550844809>1>it looks worse than ever>it looks worse than previous free weekend league
is diablo immortal really better than path of exile 2? i thought it was a pay2win phone game
>>550844918>endgame WAS reworkedok poo2jeet
>>550845610while diablo immoral is dogshit, there are still ways to win (whale out).there is no winning in the tub game.
>>550845323when they add a new atlas system the old one gets dumpstered, that means the invite and altar systems would be reworked or removed. i don't think the people who play poe1 now would like that.
>>550844918they didnt rework the end game retard
>>550845947if only there was a way to improve on the existing system, like masteries, jewel sockets or something along those lines.....
>>550845947i would. that's exactly what i'm looking for. phase out searing exarch, eater, and maven and enter a new story arc with new base types and crafting mechanics
>>550845556why? you farm locus and doryani's to sell. exactly the same as people do now in PoE 2.
>chasing zana through 3-6 maps is an endgame reworkhuh?
>>550845947ggg always managed to to make mapping feel better in every single major atlas rework, while keeping the old content accessible and relevant.i am sure they can do it again.
>>550846179>chasing eater through 24 maps is an endgame reworkwhat do you think the "endgame" is?
>>550845610>is diablo immortal really better than path of exile 2?Diablo Immmortal is hyper comfy kino but not really complex.
>>550845947>i don't think the people who play poe1 now would like that.why not?maven witness rotations are unpopular eldritch altars are good but they become significantly less interesting once you reach the point where you dont care about 99% of the minion / boss options
I just want to have fun in poo2 but the game doesnt want to let me. When do you think poo2 will be let off its' chains?
>>550846328i wouldn't call sirus, shaper, elder, atziri relevant.
why dont they just make poe2 goodim not even shitposting right now, why dont they just do that
>>550845492where's the /deathsfromlvl70andbeyond command
>>550846431pathetic bad faith argument
>>550845947>i don't thinkNo one is paying you to think, piglet
D4 won. Bigly.
>>550846554they all are accessible, are partially path of feared, needed for certain progression tiers and drop items that people use.what checkboxes more do they need to tick to be seen as relevant?
>chasing shaper and elder though a gorillion maps to make their influence collide so that you can fight the Elder Shaper is an endgame reworkHuh?
>>550845610Yeah, but that's not saying much. Poop2 is quite bad.
>>550845432i'm not even a casual, i'm a hardcore autist who's played the poe1 campaign hundreds of times over the last decade and has over 10k hours in it, and I'm already tired of poe 2's campaign after just three "leagues". i didn't even bother league starting the game until a day ago just so I could avoid the support gem "progression" gate and save myself at least a little bit of slog by buying level 5s for essentially free right at the start.
>>550846431it was an endgame rework when it released, yes. it came with the atlas tree, voidstone system and many more changes.
Just make flicker good and game will fix itself
>>550846179i do wonder how the memory tear altars would be if they werent tied to this retarded "run 5 doghsit layout maps that you have to roll 1 at a time" systemlike what if they were just like eater / exarchmap normally, 4th option on the map device to have originator influence on the mapget altars either by killing influenced packs or the boss, not sure which one would work better, maybe bothevery x maps it resetscould be cool? could be interesting? im pretty sure it worked like that at some point because the current system is quite clearly terrible and anyone who played the endgame for a bit can instantly tell that its terrible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySDks3hvkUhuge build from the god Woolie (nr 1 risk of rain 2 player and huge poe theorycrafter)
>>550846562sunk cost fallacy
https://files.catbox.moe/zkacq4.mp4jonathon..
There is one thing PoE2 does do way better than PoE1: The unique skills granted by items are way, way cooler and actually can be supported realistically. Every time I see a unique that has its own skill I do kinda wanna see if it is any good.Most of the skills are not good enough numerically, but that new Atziri spear is a great example.
>>550846921that would definitely be a step in the right direction, yes. not enough for me to accept it as a rework, but it could definitely be part of the rework.the current system is terrible because it's just an old system they had: master memories, like niko/einhar/alva/whatever memories, but minimally changed and repackaged
>>550846993>MELEE AUTOBOMBER BUILD>its just ice strike monk
poo2rists don't know what an autobomber is
As a casual gamer dad, I think one thing that PoE2 endgame is missing is a clear consistent progress you constantly build towards. 1 has the Maven, Exarch and Eater all of which you can build towards with a clear defined progress each map, and on top of that, you also have the Atlas tree which potentially provides a clear reward almost every map for a while after hitting endgame. 2 on the other hand has fortresses I guess, and the corruption nexuses, but progress towards them is reliant on map generation rng, and while I can appreciate the joy of discovery, special nodes and unique rewards on the endgame map are just too spread out and rare.
>>550846714and if they add a new endgame system, invites will get moved to side content and they will rework the drop pool. remember when sirus dropped awakened gems? they talked about this during the last q&a, poe1 players want what they know.
>>550847356Don't dad gamers love the randomness so they can't "compete"?>>550847439I have no idea what you are trying to get at, can you make your point a little bit clearer?
>>550847439just stop man
>>550847356Please remove that faggy "gamer dad" thing because this is entirely accurate and adding that to the preamble makes it seem wrong.The arbiter being some random nigger you fight in a tower after you kill 3 random act bosses in citadels is dumb. You get Atlas points way too fast and within like 2 hours you have 40/40.
>>550847562>Don't dad gamers love the randomness so they can't "compete"?I don't even know what this means.
>>550847159what a retarded post, i know this came from reddit
>>550847667it means that the gamer dad has a chance of running maps for 15-30 minutes after work and find something big.if you needed to run maps for 40 hours to work towards a goal deterministically then the dad gamer would know he won't get there and not even try.with randomness he could get there and that hooks the gamer dad.
>>550847439so then why did everyone celebrate metamorph league and then subsequently celebrate the atlas tree being added? as you said>players like what they knowand these were big changes. So why did they like them?
>>550847159weird take, you can support skills provided by items in poe1 no problem, just look at arakaali's fang for example.
poe2 needs to either copy poe1 endgame 1:1 or do something entirely new and differentthis approach of copying some parts of poe1 and changing the rest for the sake of change is fucking retardedjonathan you dumb fuck, if those changes were good, they would already be in poe1atlas points are unlocked with map completion in poe1 because its goodthe atlas is one big tree in poe1 because its goodeither copy the atlas or do something that isnt an atlas (like IDOLS you fucking retard) (idols totally werent a scrapped poe2 idea btw)
>>550847867Because GGG managed to keep the core atlas similar enough to the earlier iteration, but expand on it and transform it in a meaningful way to give it a refresh.I trust that they could do it again, if they just tried.
Fuck man I love walking around like I'm wading through shit.
>>550847867But in 1 us gamer dads can run maps for 15-30 and get a clear beneficial reward or progress each map. In 2, we very likely will not gain anything substantial.
>>550848135i doubt idols were a poo2 idea. in the pre early-access interviews they talked about how the poo2 endgame was just thrown together over 1-2 months before EA release because they realized that releasing just 3 acts with no endgame wouldn't fly and they somehow totally forgot about endgame before that.
>>550847562>can you make your point a little bit clearer?sure. modern players of path of exile one do not like big changes to the game.every time grinding gear games makes a big change to the game people get very upset.itemize atlas passives with idols. people hate it.change a scarab. people hate it.rework a mechanic. people hate it.
>>550848135retard (verification not required)
I still haven't done the league mechanic
>>550848313avg poe1er
did they patch that u can block rooms from destabilizing?
>>550848313>32
>>550848351>modern players of path of exile one do not like big changes to the game.that is wrong, everyone welcomes changes for the betterexample: the recent scarab rework.example: the addition of the current atlas tree and endgame system>itemize atlas passives with idols. people hate it.from what i gather phrecia was a huge hit with people, and it's constantly asked for as a private league mode>change a scarab. people hate it.the nerf changes were hated, the rework that removed gilded and so on tiers was beloved>rework a mechanic. people hate it.we gonna pretend nu-breach is good? people gave it a fair chance and it's just a turd
>>550848135>this approach of copying some parts of poe1 and changing the rest for the sake of change is fucking retardedThe phrase you're looking for is "half-assed"
>>550848569>>>that is wrong, everyone welcomes changes for the better>>example: the recent scarab rework.>>from what i gather phrecia was a huge hit with people, and it's constantly asked for as a private league mode>implying all of these werent met with complete poenigger melties until streamermen drilled new directives into their golem brains
>>550848736which streamer fucked your wife and got you mad?another example: nobody was mad about the latest betrayal rework
>>550848351Of course autists don't like change they like routine that's why modern PoE 1 is the biggest autist magnet. They'll pretend that they ever liked any change later because then it's part of their new autismo routine.
>>550848351dont you get bored of making these bad faith arguments and getting btfo every time?scarab reworks are good, scarab nerfs / deletions are not itemized atlas passives are really fucking good, unmodifiable idols are noti played the shit out of phrecia and had a text file full of regexes for deleting / recombing idols and yeah it was cancer but i still played the league way more than all poe2 leagues combined
>>550848849>nobody was mad about the latest betrayal rework
Man I love finding silver tongue in the middle of floor 1 after two large water fountaincan't wait to somehow lose the run
>>550848736have you considered that the broad masses and streamers are often in the same line because streamers are also just people and people often reach similar conclusions?
>>550848569>>550848895they changed like 4 scarabs in keepers and people said ggg are trying to kill the game lmao
>>550848736>>implying all of these werent met with complete poenigger melties until streamermen drilled new directives into their golem brainsi think that's part of why 0.4 was a flopper. nobody found anything broken. streamers just played mediocre shit, and without them to spread busted shit to the masses, all the gamerdads had a bad time.
>>550848313>responses are just insults or attempts to discreditClassic 2rist
>>550848313what do you think pushed him over the edge?what happened before he posted that?
>>550849003i dont consider an average pootard human
>persistent ground support>chilled ground can only be destroyed by expiring>neat, maybe i can use the water djinn explosion multiple times without having to cast my generator again>water djinn explosion simply doesn't work at all on persistent ground supported chilled groundthis game is dogshit
>>550848313Was he right?
>>550848849betryal is the perfect example of what poe1 players want and what they dont want>wantchanging the board to not reset when you kill cata was goodadding veiled chaos as a safehouse reward was goodchanging a lot of rewards to actually do something was good>dont wantmaking veiled exalts even more rare was badremoving the intelligence scarab was badtying allflames to betrayal was badnerfing gravicius this league obviously was bad
>>550849120given the date, he probably got hardfiltered by an act boss, either gaynore ore jamaicanra.
>>550849024yeah well, all of those changes added to to those scarabs being basically unuseable and the ceiling of the farming methods getting lowered. that ain't a good think, would you not agree?
can i do anything w/ this? is it worth anything to anyone?
>>550849024stop with this disingenuous use of the word "change" those scarabs got deleted obviously deleting content from the game is bad, does that need to be explained?do you think "changing" poe2 tablets to no longer do anything would be a good "endgame rework"?
>>550849193yeah but there's enough mazed and buying twitch streamers is relatively cheap
>rue "the rapist" too is victim blaming again
>>550848313>dec 8SO FVCKING BASED
>>550849024same argument could be made even stronger for poo2. towers were universally hated and mocked by the community. ggg removes the towers, and now we got a few autists here that want them back. poo2turds are just the same.
>>550849226>tying allflames to betrayal was badi think it's nice that some rewards only come from certain content. that's how you keep the economy healthy.>nerfing gravicius this league obviously was badi could take it or leave it. i ran gravicius around 50-60 times in merc league and he never dropped shit. I made way more currency off Rin giving me maven chisels (just one box even. would have been 2x'd if I put her as the leader and grav as her backup) than anything grav gave me
>>550849226>adding veiled chaos as a safehouse reward was good>making veiled exalts even more rare was badthat's the bald specialfix something being only tradable through discord and nerf it at the same time
trade is a mental illness
>>550849571you will never cancel him
>>550849406and 32 watchstones got deleted, atlas regions got deleted, metamorph got deleted, sextants got deleted. old poe players didn't give a fuck because they expected the game to constantly change, new poe players don't want that.
>>550849308ggg is anti homo, so you cant do shit anymore
>>550849832that's wrong. i want change. i just don't want change for the worse. their atlas reworks have never been a change for the worse so far.
So you can just tank monkey slams now
I'm having fun, dunno why you shitters are seething, have you tried gitting gud?
game sux lol
>>550850149yeah shitposting is kinda fun but playing the game isn't. joke's on all the shit eaters, amirite?
>>550849832disingenuous argument again, all of those things got replaced by something else. 3.27 deleted those scarabs without adding anything new
Poop 2? It smells
Poo2?Big stinky
>diablo 3 bad and for casuals >make a worse diablo 3 insteadJonathan? Why?
>>550849832people hate GGG lowering the ceiling on us. deleting scarabs lowered the ceiling. no atlas rework ever did.
>massive shitter cope and seethelol
>slog through the campaign to play a worse version of the 0.3 endgame with worse crafting yeah... i think im good
Do you think the game would be far better if SSF was the focus and not trade league? I honestly feel like trade league should be the red headed step child league and not SSF. Trade league has been fucking this game since PoE1. It warps everything negatively and ruins anything and everything.
>>550850015>i just don't want change for the worse.well thats how ggg do things. the atlas was complete fucking slop for years, pretty sure the people who can't handle one mechanic being shit for a few months isn't going to put up with years of them trying to figure out a new system.
>>550849024Ahem!Why did they like these changes >>550847964if players don't like change?I see you completely glossed over this because it doesn't fit in your framing
>>550850149>>550850454trying too hard lil guppy
>>550840903d4 > poo 2 > poo 1
>>550850514>the atlas was slop for yearsyou didn't play back then, did you? it was leaps and bounds better than the iteration before it.it just like it was shit to you, because you know the current iteration, which again is leaps and bounds better than the previous one.
>>550849832>people liked these changes BUT THEY WERE DIFFERENT THEN!retard nigger ape
>>550850553nigger is arguing on poeg on a saturday because hes already tired of poe2 1 week into the leagueG R I M
>>550850718only thing more retarded than this would be actually playing poo2 right now.
@550850636unc... you're not trying to...git gudlol
I know 0.5 will have endgame changes, but I've lost faith in jonatroon and GGG.Predictions? I predict it will be exactly like the current atlas but reskinned.
lil gupta too scared to reply...
>>550850890$100 says the endgame changes will again be pushed back from 0.5 to 0.6 because they just couldn't finish them in time and they aren't ready.
>>550850890Current atlas as in poe1? Zero chance.Current civ map with towers coming back doing something new? 100%
The problem is that nothing ever topped Shaper vs Elder fighting for the AtlasEverything seems bad in comparison
>>550850890>your brain on trade
how many retards will be buckbroken when the patch after 0.9 will not be 1.0 but 0.10
>>550850642>people loved leapfrogging 32 watchstones, and being forced to run specific regions to farm content was based.
>>550850513trvke
>>550850513as an ssf only player im honestly not sureconsider this: there is something which only drops from 1 mechanicin ssf this can be frustrating if you dont like that mechanic but want the item. so in your ssf version of the game, you would probably want an alternative way of acquiring that item. but then that mechanic is basically pointless in trade and it has no reason to exist, its effectively removed from the game. thats not good eitherimo the best way to make the game more enjoyable in ssf is to revisit some mechanics that just arent goodin trade league there will always be someone doing those mechanics as long as the item is in demand because unpopular mechanic -> less supply -> more profitablebut are those people even having fun? is that really good, just having someone farm uber shaper for 20d/hr or whatever and not really enjoying it but liking how profitable it is?seems kinda dystopian like maybe just make the game better and then ssf is better too
Prechia with added ToTA, scourge, crucible + mayhem flashback legacy GO
>>550851138that iteration was way better than elder circles before it. you are making the mistake of comparing iteration 3 of the atlas to iteration 4 and are saying "uuuuh iteration was so bad", when you should be comparing it to iteration 2.
It's way past time to end the Troonathan experiment.
>>550850513why 4 tits
>imo the best way to make the game more enjoyable [...] is to revisit some mechanics that just arent goodwaow
>>550851326I'll let the Chinese know.
>>550851359anon quoting the voices in his head. bravo!real schizo hours.
>>550850890troonathan is going to quintuple down on the infinite atlas in true troonathan fashion he will add some meaningless incentives and restrictions to push players towards his vision without addressing any underlying issues
>>550851315great so you see the problem. now apply that same logic to something like the breach rework and peoples reaction to it. old poe>lmao this is jank shit but the game is still amazingnew poe>omg they changed this thing and it literally killed the game
How good of a stat is "x armor applies to elemental damage". Does it do anything if I'm resistance capped?
>>550851138I actually did like farming specific regions for specific things. It gave farms some variety. Also harbingers back in conqueror days were FUCKING CRACKED. People always look at harbingers now and realize how SHIT they are as a main point of contention with the current atlas content
>>550851626are you trying to argue that you never know if the rework will be good so we shouldn't have reworks? that's retarded.they missed their mark with breach 2, they should admit it and roll back the failed experiment next league.that should not be an argument for never getting a proper atlas rework anymore.
>>550851626so trve sis
>>550850553>still silent on this matterI have won this debate. The nigger autist hasn't even challenged this contention
>xhe can't afford $30>xhe's been out of the EA for a year>xhe is brown>xhe is seething
who are you quoting
why is this allowed?
guys, gimme a key to poo2, I want to see the disaster with my own eyes, I know you're hoarding some
>>550851813nah
>>550851640No idea I don't play poop of excrement 2.
>>550851875>he failed to read the layoutpoint and laugh
>>550851906>stolen picjej rajneesh
mystery box is shit bros... how am I gonna give my hard earned money to jonathan now?
>>550851776In his mind, criticizing Jonatroons genius somehow anathematizes you from the poe "zeitgeist" and therefore invalidates your perspective. GGG can do no wrong, and therefore any complaints or just seen as hatred instead of real issues or critiques. You simply cannot be against whatever the current thing is or you are a traitor.
>>550851662>I actually did like farming specific regions for specific things.But enough about PoE2.
>>550851875I see 5 FREE chests in those rooms.
Can I use Rakiata's flow and Garukhan's resolve together?
>>550852009donate to kashmir defence force
>>550851626>pretending that early changes were never rejected by the communityman i hate newfags
>>550852039poe2 unfortunately has nothing like that. You can't modify layouts, you can't run the same layout multiple times consistently, you can't determine what rolls on the atlas, etc.
>>550850513I think they need a dedicated ssf that can't be muled to trade league, and then to balance drops around solo in that "true ssf" league.
>trade badjust say you're stupid and incompetent at the game and have to substitute knowledge with grunt work retardation
>>550851662you're probably using the correct lens to look at it, before the discussed atlas iteration target farming mechanics wasn't a thing, and giving us a way to target farm was a big step into the right direction. compared to now it seems bad, but that's why we like the current atlas more than the older iterations.
>>550852215>grunt work retardationaka as playing the game by the non-hideout warriors
>>550851330she vaal'd them and got a +2 max tits implicit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-bNJVPHRoYOH NONONO POE2 CHUDS... ITS OVER!!!
>>550852368it never even started
>>550852368his next laptop will be full of viruses
>>550851875ZACCHIE FIX THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW WE NEED CHESTS AT THE END OF THESE DEAD ENDS AND A CHECKPOINT ASAP
>>550852368GO HOME TOURIST BOY
>>550852368>roached out againLOOOOOOOOL
>get a weapon upgrade>has +5 to skill gems>+10% damage>+40% mana costwhy does this game punish you for upgrading your character?
>picked up diablo 4>played the campaign>had a lot of fun>can't understand why people rag on the game so much>finish the game>bump the difficulty up to torment 1>still one shot everything despite my gear being far from optimal>see no reason to continue pushing furtherI understand now.
>>550848018Not a weird take.98% of the innate skills on items in PoE1 are absolute trash that will never be good because of how the game operates, or they're like Arakaali's Fang/Ulti wand (I think it is a wand) which create a build but are super niche like 0.1% play rate stuff. They also just cheap out and make a bunch of the skills triggered so they barely feel like anything.PoE2 actually offers way cooler and more interesting skills that can be fully 6 linked. Spiders require a Squire, and before then they couldn't even do it.
>playing the game is "grunt work retardation"do tradies really think like this...?is this why they RMT? to feel superior to the plebs who have to "work" for their gear?
>>550852603GENERATE MORE MANA SO YOU CAN SPEND THAT MANA
>>550852368based
>>550852603>retard is complaining that a higher level skill uses more mana
>>550852750retard>>550852769>upgrading your character should feel badwat
>>550852838if you want a game without any friction go play diablo 4 lil bro
>>550852723yeah, you spend hours and hours farming/crafting that gear. I spend a few bucks and have the same if not better gear.
Back to the mines, farmies. Those alts and augments won't fill Faustus without your dedication.
>>550852950>gear is absoulte dogshit>still 1 shot everything >>550852687
>>550852950i have been enjoying the d4 season greatly, but the content ran out kinda fast.poo2 just ain't fun, and i have a feeling you know that.
>>550852959you are the dumbest gorilla in this thread
people are exhausted playing the campaign and its only been a single year of leagues and the campaign is still missing a third of its content
>>550851640that stat is the only thing that makes armour a viable defensive layer. you'll need 130%+ to go alongside your 30,000+ armour and you'll have as much survival as a mediocre ES build.
how are non-accessible nodes still a thing after like a year of release
>>550853134I actually don't RMT anymore, I did it a few times in PoE1 and it absolutely killed the fun for me but that was my logic when I did do it.
>>550848569I'd rather have old scarabs and sextants back. Scarab rewards made sims and deli quite decent. I hate the new scarab farming.
>>550853171
>>550853138redditors are going to freak the fuck out when the short, comfy interludes with their xp boost and small maps are replaced by act 5 + act 6the melty will be gloriousin jonathans mind it will be the best patch of all time with his poggers campaign finally completed but dad gamers wont even make it to his new acts
>>550852368JONATHAN WAKE UP
>>550853428>act 5 will be longer than acts 1-4 combined>act 6 will be longer than 1-5 combinedCalling it now.
i love making 2jeets miserablefuck you and your nigger game
what even is the poe2 endgame? are there ubers or what
>>550853138>>550853428DUDE THE LONGER CAMPAIGN, SLOWER GAME PLAY AND BIGGER MAPS ARE A GOOD THING. YOURE JUST A DOPAMINE STARVED ZOOMER. IF YOU WANNA 1 SHOT EVERYTHING GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE MAYBE POE2 ISN'T FOR YOU>What about in a few seas...GOPLAYSOMETHINGELSE-few seasons pass-DUDE THE GAMEPLAY IS TOO SLOW AND THE MAPS ARE TOO BIG. I CANT EVEN BRING MYSELF TO GET PAST ACT 2/3 ITS SOOOOOO BORING WHY IS IT SUCH A SLOG GGG NEED TO FIX THISIt's like people have zero ability to think ahead
>>550853615BASED
>>550853558that obviously isnt gonna happenBUT...i would kneel
Poe 2 isn't very fun for me
>>550852368CHRIS! DO SOMETHING!
>>550853792generate new post
>some dude asking how to trade in game yesterday>tell him to go to the website becasue in 2025 that's still homehow a fucking thing>bunch of people chime in that it's not>says to press "/">they added trade in game nowTo be fair I didn't play last season. Now all we need is an auto inventory sort and some sort of campaign skip and we may be making our way to the top.
>>550853615I kneel
>>550853983no need to, he has already won bigly
>>550853792'member when they first showed poe4.0 and chris joked about how much speedrunners are going to hate the zone size.
This game is in a very shitty state, it has conceptual flaws that make it very unfun and of course it runs like shit and is plagued with bugs.The fact that they are pumping out MTX despite this just shows that they are laughing at you. Jonathan comes on every stream and lies with glee, what are we doing playing this shit?
>>550854329>what are we doing playing this shit?we're not sis
>>550854329>conceptual flaws that make it very unfunName 5>runs like shitRuns flawlessly on my machine, try playing on something that's not a 20 year old thinkpad ranjesh>plagued with bugsName 5
>>550853138the more i think about it, the more i realize just how bad it isis jonathan aware? does he have a plan?
>>550854162He won so bigly, that he's helping people escape troonathan's dark pattern game.
>>550854329>what are we doing playing this shitDespite the acts being a slog it's still fun
>>550853428i didn't even make it to maps this league as it is, the campaign is just such a fucking slog I got bored somewhere in act 4 and just never pick the game back up.
Am I not allowed to run trial of chaos for my 3rd ascendency?
Grim Dawn is 85% off on steam. Is it actually fun? Meaningful combat or d3 clone? Kind of interested
>>550852368>go again?>no chance.lmoa
>>550854484i upvote this graphA+
>>550854329>what are we doing playing this shit?nobody is playing this shit lmao
>>550854484his grand plan is ultimate diablofication, the ideal scenario is to bait as many as possible with trailer slop and promises of good endgame at the start of each league and manufacture hype via streamer shills to sell as many mtx packs as possible in first weekend and then have everyone fuck off for 4 months once they collect their "Fell for it again" rewards, and thus no need to rent large server spaces for large amount of players
>>550854754there are 170k people playing it buddy
>>550854843
there is 170k more players in poe2 than poe1 lmao
>>550852368this is the unfiltered opinion of actual poe1 players while redditors who make 3 characters per league and only get them to lvl80 are praising the game for how great it is
>>550854843name 10
>act2 and 4 both have a retarded travel mechanic for no reason that could have just been repalces with normal waypoint travelwhy are they so fucking retarded with stuff like this
>>550854843i played this league a bit for the sole reason that i wanted to play poe but without jonathans turd fortresses taking up half of my maps im 100% convinced that they made the poe1 leagu bad on purpose to drive engagement to poe2player count would be way lower if the poe1 league was goodnot even because those people would be playing poe1 right now but because they had already gotten their fill of playing poe
>>550854963the image that forced all hopeniGGGer shills to kneel
>>550854607>grim yawn
>>550855081>repalces*replaced
>>550854607meaningful combat? no, grim yawn is all about the loot and grind and build/class combination autism. the combat is very samey and the pacing of the game in general is also scaled to be the same at all points.
>>550854973Bots
If they just simplified the effects of skills, and unlinked most from a primary weapon, poe2 would instantly be better. Also, spell totem shouldn't need charges to use.
>>550855159yeah for sure there is some grand conspiracy at play and not the fact that they release new league every 2 months making both shit
>>550854607its called grim yawn for a reasonrunescape ass combat where you stand still and do an mmo rotationi didnt really understand the loot, some enemies have scripted uniques drops so your progression is kind of premade by the devs? seemed a little strange but i didnt play it that much
>>550855436what would change for keepers league if they had two more months? they got all the feedback they needed in first week of the league, did anything get addressed?
>>550855347>Just add a campaign skip and allow some way to level>add a way for people to have whatever name they want, every other game can do it why not PoE?
>>550852368They should hire ben for balance instead of zaccie, ffs why do we have these retards in charge of this game now?
>>550854973thank god they're all d4 redditbabs so the increased playercount of casuals doesn't translate to increased retardposting in /pooegg/
>>550855687If you don't like it there's other games you can play :)
>>550855436yes.i mean seriously, give me 1 day and a developer who can implement my requests and i could make the league infinitely betterlook at any of the design decisions in keepers and tell me with a straight face that they were made with fun in mind
>>550855610It would still be a pain. You want to run the same zone over and over to get to lvl 62? With the same slow, tedious gameplay? No thanks.
>make breach so bad people dont want to waste their time on it>make temple so bad people dont want to waste their time on itactually impressive
>>550850890From what I've heard so far 0.5 will have:-New endgame-Tota-2 New acts-Swords-2 new classes -2 new ascendsMy idea for a new endgame would be making "realms" instead of an infinite Atlas we get shards of the atlas like multiple of the poe 1 Atlas that we can use like tablets to generate new limited realms which work like maps on a larger scale. So a more deterministic way of generating infinite atlas.Yes this is all copium.
>>550855953clearly the solution is to surround the temple map encounter with walls so you are punished for ignoring it
Expedition should be removed from the game entirely
>>550855949Isn't that just end game too?
>>550853171Prease
>>550855876lil bro we havent forgotten how you poe1 boomers complained the campaign was too hard
>>550855953They could have combined them into some rouge like mode when you build your temple and the further you get in the more modifiers the monsters have and/or the larger the packs and you're rewards are based on how far you get in.
>>550856048>My idea for a new endgame would be making "realms" instead of an infinite Atlas we get shards of the atlas like multiple of the poe 1 Atlas that we can use like tablets to generate new limited realms which work like maps on a larger scale.I made a post with a very similar idea in the past, and I've seen a few other people suggest something similar too.
>>550855610Difference is, im interested in gameplay. Youre interested in whining.
>>550855347spell totems are so fucking cucked it's unbelievable.
>>550855582GGG releases one patch intended to fix whatever problem the league has and then they peace out and start working on a new leaguethis has been their way of doings things for a long time.
>>550856264keepers wasn't even a bad league.
>>550855924and i plan on it lil gupta
why did they remove the outline from magic and rare monsters in poe2?most of them have a goofy gigantic vfx around them because of an archnem mod anyway
>>550856101the solution is to make darkee the CEO of GGG America (the new maintainers of poe1)
>>550856495>and start working on a new leaguethey said multiple times that they begin doing actual work on the league two weeks before release lol
They need to nerf movement speed. It's too strong in a game where you can just circle around all the bosses and all their attacks are dodgeable
>>550856417retard
>>550856559bot malfunction?
pob???
Hello, This is Jonathan "path of" exile II. I am sad to report development of PoE2 has been suspended indefinitely. I take great pride in making my flatulence as strong as possible with a long linger time and my team could not appreciate my vision on the matter, thus they have all been instructed to not return to the office. Until I can find a team that shares my vision, but do not try to out do me, I will not be developing or adding further content to the game. Happy Holidays from all of us a Grinding Gear Games.
>>550852368A BLUE CHESTAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA FUCKING BLUEEEEEEE CHESTHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>550856664So what are they doing for those months in between?
>>550856495for poe1 maybe because jonathan doesnt like that gamefate of the vaal already got a mid league patch but it will get at least another one, probably even more than that
>>550856762i've played the game for longer than 2 years, i played bad leagues, keepers wasn't a bad league.
>>550856130TRVKE
>>550844745janky ass lines
>>550856664source being your obese arse
>>550856861who the fuck knows, not working on poe2 apparently because a year in we are still missing acts and classes.
>but it will get at least another one>probably even more than thatsource?
>>550856965>but it will get at least another one, probably even more than thatit's holidays coming up, I dont think so buddy.
>>550856130this and ritual I agree on. feels so hamfisted in. Expedition in particular sucks donkey dick because you can't allocate the big bomb node because all the map layouts are hallway garbage where everything is way too spread out
>>550857065crucible league chris interview
>>550857153>>550857207https://www.pathofexcrement.com/forum/view-thread/3892453>These changes, along with some others, will be deployed with patch 0.4.0c tomorrow.>There are still a few other improvements we want to make to Fate of the Vaal, but they will need to wait until a future patch. Thank you for all of the feedback!
>>550857071>because a year in we are still missing acts and classesUh.....what? Did you forget the game is still in EARLY access? As in not completely done yet? Of course it's still missing stuff. Be glad you're able to play at all.
the most insane part about comparing poe1 and poe2 development is that poe1 progressed way faster from literal nothing to a full game with THREE DUDES IN A GARAGE than a large team of professionals that already have solid foundation of the game. how?
>>550857479Game development and technology has changed goy. Quit asking questions.
>>550845794>>550846443>>550846793>>550845610bad game > pay2win game
>>550857331literally just minor number tweaks, 0.4 had its large patch and is now left for dead like all the other leagues.GGG have said time and time again that retention does not matter much to them but rather the rate of returning players for a new league.
>>550856693prove it
>>550857479WE NEED TO FULLY MODEL ATZIRIS ASSHOLE IN 4K WITH HDR SUPPORT AND EVERY PLAYABLE ASCENDANCY NEEDS TO HAVE 10 VOICELINES FOR IT OR THE MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE WONT PLAY OUR GAME
>poo1 derangement virus is so strong they're now trying to say diablo immortal is better than poe2I really hope they eos your shitty game next league so you vegetables can finally fuck off.
>>550856048>New endgame>Tota>2 New acts>Swords>2 new classes>2 new ascendsanon.. we'll be incredible lucky to get even 1/3 of that, remember these are the devs that promised 6 months to 1.0 last November
squadron 42 is launching before poe2 LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>>550857823>TotaOf all the dogshit thing they could add to the game, why would they fucking add this?
>>550857479why put in effort when retarded goycattle will lap up whatever you shit out
>>550857896who the fuck knows, jonatroon is deadset on making poe2 opposite of poe1 in everyway, everyone would be incredible happy and sucking on his toes 24/7 if they just gave us lab instead of sekhema/ultimate/tota crap
>>550857823>6 months to 1.0 last Novemberthis was so far off that im pretty sure it was just a straight up lie
>>550858007people have complained about the lab since it was added to the game.
I'm a jingahk
poo 1 jeets are crying about path of exile 2 again bros..
>>550858202and i was one of them, but you know what, lab is infinitely better than this slop
>>550857304>Expedition in particular sucks donkey dick because you can't allocate the big bomb node because all the map layouts are hallway garbage where everything is way too spread outThis is why I play it in Dunes.
man I might actually login to poe2 even knowing how dogshit this league is...got the arpg itch and I just can't bring myself to play d4 again. fuck
>>550857641Correct. We need Overwatch amounts of Atziri SFM
>>550857715poe2 is bleeding players so much that i wouldnt be surprised if they completely half its development kek
it should have been called path two exile
>>550857715they won't fuck off. a bunch of them are just waiting for their streamer to tell them the game is good, the rest are giga mazed and hate both games but can't walkaway.
>>550858202the only complaint ive ever heard about the lab was forcing oneportal pseudo hc faggotry on sc. but that was back when izaro and traps could actually kill you.
>>550858462yeah lmao they'll be down to peak poo1 numbers soon!!
>>550858316>poo 1 jeets>there are so many jeets in poe2 that mark raged so hard that he made async tradelol
>>550858462they really should just fuck off and finish the game instead of doing this league cycle shitthough I doubt tencent would let them
>>550858695>yeah lmao they'll be down to peak poo1 numbers soon!!correct :)next league will be below poe1, maybe this league towards the end
I am once again asking for AI vids of Lily
>>550856832SURELY an additional blue chest will suffice and fix everything... right?
Diablo Immortal is objectively better than Poopy Shit 2 because Diablo Immortal at least has smooth combat.
>>550858631poe2 doesnt even have any exiles
>>550857479it's really hard to get anything done now that there are over 300 people in the garage.
at least in diablo immortal you can be a cuck and pay for fun.no fun allowed in poo2.
The PoE2 poo/shit/tub etc memes are so stale it's unreal. It's just annoying and retarded at this point.
>>550858986thats why its called the path TO exileyou start out as a non-exile and become one at the end
>>550858961diablo immortal certainly isnt shitting itself when theres more than 5 monsters on screen at the same time
>>550859081poo2 being shit is not a meme, it's a fact. deal with the real world, tranny.
>>550857823They're just gonna keep the game in EA for years so they can do, or not do, whatever tf they want and any criticism will be met with "DUDE ITS EA LET THEM COOK". Project Zomboid has been in EA for like 12 years now and people still defend it with "It's still in EA".
TRVKE TORNADO!!!!!!!Dodge roll inherently makes PoE 2 better than PoE 1. You can't debate this. It's objective fact.
>>550857715you're a parasite in our thread, champ. you can't even maintain an active poop2 general because its playercount is botted and it doesn't have enough real players to keep the thread alive.
>>550858430Paladin is fun for 3-4 hours
>>550859035Over 90% of players RMT in PoE 2. It's a jeet-centric game meant to engage Tencent's RMT business.
>>550859201>WASD inherently makes PoE 2 better than PoE 1. You can't debate this. It's objective fact.
why are you seething raj?you will just have to wait for poe2 to become f2p to play it
>>550859201the dodge roll and wasd feel shit to play.
>>550859191>trannyI'm more of a man than you'll ever be, you retarded nigger.
i love poe2!
>>550859214
>>550859428somehow i doubt that you have any T in you, poo2troon
the only reason to play this stinky ahh game is sunken cost
>>550859201>3 challenges
>>550857715>diablo immortal is better than poe2Poe2 is closer to diablo immortal than poe1.
>>550859567but enough about poowun and your 6k$ of supporterpacks and MTX
>>550859428>crying about low effort shitposts on /vg/ in 2025yea I'm sure you are, sis
>>550859485>she's too scared to make her own poop2 general because she knows it won't last
>poe would be so much better if it was a soulslike, i'd play a soulslike poeit's the same as>i'd love for counter strike to be a looter shooter, i'd pay a looter shooter based counter strike version
>>550859214>its playercount is botted and it doesn't have enough real players to keep the thread alive.This.>>550859485Have you ever played the game lmao you can't even get to maps without being bombarded by spam and it has some of the worst RMT I've seen in any game ever
>the poo1 monkey shits hits pants and flings poo at you as he sights made up stats
>>550859567>>550859679DVNK'D THAT BROWN
>>550859927dunno, looks pretty real to me
what will poowuntroon do when poowun EOS comes?
>>550857896I'll take anything over sugma or trial of bird tornado rape Knowing Jonathan's vision he will probably make Tota even worse though.
>>550859774poe2 is much better because it plays like an actual videogame. "lol pob is the real game", well here we are.
>>550860123go on poo2 and shit it up until it fits my needs again.how's that make you feel, poo2jet?
>>550859774>X would be good if it were YWhy is reddit like this? You can just play whatever genre you want without turning everything into homogenized slop.
all poo1 babbies do is talk about poe2go play your game lil bro
>>550860183poo2 also doesn't feel like a real video game, it's more of a walking simulator than a game
https://steamcharts.com/app/238960>12,901oof not looking good poowunsis
if poo2 was good you'd be playing it instead of constantly whining about the evil poowunners in /poeg/ for 10 hours a day
UH OHWATCH OUT POE2TROONIESTIME IS RUNNING OUT
>>550859938What's even the point of being a doomer if these are the hopers, the thrill of the hunt is gone just like in poo2
cant tell if these are ragebait or not
The mapping experience in poop2 is miserable because it entirely revolves around turning rares into loot pinatas. There's no drops from magic mobs, the packs are too far apart, the maps are too sprawling and annoying to navigate. It's not blastable and that's an issue. At first the idea of having a real big area like a whole explorable zone filled with monsters seems cool, but the rewards are just way too shit and it doesn't feel right. I'd rather run a completely packed Strand map filled to the brim with packs and mechanics because>it's quick>it's satisfying to kill lots of shit>there will be tons of lootMostly, it's quick. It's easy to forget and move on from a bad map with no loot. Meanwhile in Poop2 you're stuck trying to find that last rare or find wherever the fuck the boss is supposed to be.I hate the open atlas, I hate tablets which is just sextants again. The only mechanic that's a straight upgrade from PoE1 is Abyss. I like how that works and they should backport it.
Does Lily accept loot from her viewers ?
Summary of D4 right now:>Paladin has a skill called Judgement that does 100x damage for seemingly no reason and no streamer is smart enough to calculate how it does damage so no one knows how to build it>Paladin has an angel skill called Arbiter that gives you Tyrael wings that periodically shoot lightning tendrils at mobs, these also do 100x damage for no reason and no streamer is smart enough to calculate how that does damage either>the seasonal Azmodan perk gives you infinite free Mythic uniques if you level it up so the meta is to AFK on the boss in normal mode for 24 hours with a drinking bird on your attack key to max out the favor so you can start printing your mythic keys>the Azmodan boss restores all of your boss mats after you kill him so the number of boss mats in the economy is infinitely inflating and can never decrease>treasure goblin rifts print infinite crafting materials and gold and within 5 minutes of joining a group you are completely set for the seasonBasically, your season is done the second you hit max level. Still more replayability than PoE 2 thoughbeit.
>>550860454poo2 coming in hot, it's not even 1.0 and people are already asking for campaign skip
I'm tempted to fracture this.
>>550860584you cant handle that much woman lil bro
>D4fun a weekend>PoE2slog for a weekend
>>550860432>Actually went up after 0.4
>>550860454>settlerswhere's keepers, or did you type the wrong name
>>550860432Jonathan and tencent need to pull the plug on poe1, it drains resources from poe2's development for no reason whatsoever.
PoE2 will be significantly better once all you normalfags are fully filtered.
poo1 died when they removed quant rolls from gear
>>550859927>sights
>>550860603I'll give you an even simpler and better summary. D4 has swords.
>>550860563>in Poop2 you're stuck trying to find that last rare or find wherever the fuck the boss is supposed to be.you would have to be certifiably retarded to not be able to find map bosses in poe2. poe1 fucking bricked people, if the map isn't a straight line you retards get lost.
>>550860748keepers drowned in jonathans shit filled tub
>>550860865
the only """resources""" that go into poo2's development are jeet coded AI assets and poo1 content except made worse and gay
>>550860690Well I did it.
GGG died when Bex was fired. It's the truth nuke that /pooegg/ refuses to accept.
>>550860950
>>550860950i miss the slampig
>>550860464>the thrill of the hunt is gonein /poeg/ we only feel the thrill... of... THE VOID.
>>550860938it's nice that fracture attempts are only like 2dit sucks that you can't farm harbingers meaningfully at all
Asset quality is great in poo2.Everything else? Not so much.Verdict: poo2 lost.
>>550860690>coruscating elixir>mageblood
STOP HATEING THE TEMPLE ! ITS JOHNNYS LOVECHILD ( TO HIMSELF ) !
>>550860718this
PoE2 is fun to play.PoE1 is fun to play when you get your mageblood.
the best thing about this patch was the djinn girl, I will be maining her every league from now on on the 3 free days I get, I liked the character a lot from what I've seen in the videos, it's gladiator in poe1 and djinn disciple of Allah on poe2 for me for the foreseeable future
>>550860789
>>550861217>hateing
We taught a lion to enjoy meaningful combat
>>550861270
>>550860718https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2642071705?t=01h14m40s
the fact that people are seriously (not as a joke) comparing d4 and poe2 tells you all that you need to know
>>550861198>>550861198It's not ideal but if you look up some "big mana" builds, they're sometimes tied to that flask and if I want to Delve I find myself even swapping my Quartz for a regular Ruby flask for better max rez during tougher encounters. This also applies to Uber boss farming. So two redundant flasks sometimes. MagebloodElixer, Ruby, Topaz, Sapphire, and Quicksilver. Quartz flask swapped for Ruby for smoother Delve play.
>>550861676i mean it isnt a joked4 is literally better right now
>>550861676d4 is better than poe1 atmnot poe2 tho
>>550843440it sounds like you're describing flash grenade
>>550861590KEK>last live 2 days ago>4 hour stream
Why can't I just shoot her? Why can't Asala just stab her with her sword?
>>550861676this is what happens when brown people half understand the concept of transitive properties.
>>550861889Shut the fuck up and stay on the adventure line
>>550861889that would be anticlimatic
lilly isnt being very ladylike while eating on stream
>>550862010I believe the word you are looking for is antisemitic.
>poewon>last word in gaming for the best arpg players in the world>some of the most in depth builds of any game in existence>retains it's luster even in maintenance mode>pootworism >staunchly defended by the most hideous reddit bugmen you've seen in your life>have to willfully delude yourself into thinking you're not retarded for playing something besides pathfinser>not even out of early access and the floorboards are starting to rot
>>550861781Yeah except flash grenade doesn't require a corpse and can kill every boss with ease
I'm addicted to PoE2.
>>550861864poe 2 is an anti-streamer game, you need to pay attention to what is happening in the game. in poe1 they can just hold down the kill button while reading twitch chat until a random oneshot.>you chat what was that?!? clip? clip?
>>550862123t. nobody
>>550861270Headhunter is more fun than mageblood.frog.jpg
>>5508592013 lmao
>>550862257>you need to pay attention to what is happening in the gamefor the first 10 hours of the league maybe, after that its brain off wasd while holding down rmb i dont blame you for not knowing thoughmeans you quit the game when you got to mapsgood for you honestly
>>550862345except Shroud Walker exists so Mageblood is better
>>550862257>you need to pay attention to what is happening in the gameMaybe if you play one of the unintended skills instead of the 3 approved skills
>>550859201https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/holyblazeer-7712/charactershere you go, have a good lol, maybe even a lmao
>>550862585>except Shroud Walker existsI have no response to this.
>>550856048You need little goals for end game imo. Complete atlas, unlock fav slots, complete invitations, etc. endless atlas isn't fun without some real measure of progress
>>550862345mageblood is better if your character is strong enough without hh buffsmore movespeed and no retard ass teleporting around
>>550862545>actually poe1 has deep and meaningful combat and every rare fight is heckin epic with 8 button combos and dashing out of harms way. >poe2 is dogshit because it's full of rare monsters that need 8 button combos and you have to dodge out of harms way.
fubcel tier: le headhunterascendant being: mageblood + wine of the prophet
so no more new female characters?
>>550863169is Wine of the Prophet even any good? you spam it so much when you're juiced mapping and I ain't gonna fucking press it manually either
>>550863218but sissy shadow is still coming
>>550862787what the fuck is this why are there so many level 1-3 charactersdying to hillock???why is he complaining about lack of dodge roll but not using shield chargewhy does he have a level 100 character with unsupported leap slam in an item with 2 empty socketsis this who jonathan made poe2 for?
>>550862818This. 1's endgame feels good because you're always hitting benchmarks, when you make your weapon and realize you can get your last watch stones or fight the feared it feels good and lets you know your character's improvement is being put to use.All of that is missing from 2, you're just on a shit treadmill surrounded by lobotomites, trudging towards upgrades so you can keep running on the shit treadmill 0.5% fasterDon't even get me started on the state of poe2 "juicing"
>watch clown>he's about to die cause bad>just pauses the game and logs outand hctroons pretend their mode isn't a complete joke
>>550862585>shroud walkerjust means you need to put your second headhunter on that you keep in your invent
>>550863120are you having a stroke?good poe2 builds dont need 8 button combos in endgame, you just walk around and use your 1 skill to clear the screen
>>550863463>realize you can get your last watch stones
>>550860603>hit level 60>change difficulty to torment 1>zero trouble clearing anything in basic ass gear>see no reason to continue playing
>found an overlooked crafting anglethe divine orbs come to me easily
>>550862925HH is faster then MB with quicksilver/onslaught depending on the content and you don't get the buildmaker's shame debuff by solving 1/2 your character with flask suffixes
>>550863538knowing when to logout is a skill
>>550863693>>buildmaker's shame debuff by solving 1/2 your character with flask suffixesyea, making a shitty character carried by a belt and Nemesis scarab is way more sophisticated
>>550863596such as?
>yeah i enjoy poo2, how could you tell?
>>550862109>>some of the most in depth builds of any game in existence>98% of the skills and passive nodes aren't even worth considering
>>550863872what the fuck
>>550863830Yeah
>Do 7 t1 maps>no div dropsShit game
>>550863439a real poe2 enjoyer2 level 100s, 1 of them which you already made fun of is using a lvl 17 boneshatter gem(???) looks like a converted aurabotthe other one looks like a real character from crucible leaguesome jeet bought the account or something
Went to the trussy this morning and got these, could be the new base for my final pair of gloves. Not sure if I should try to wait until I roll a 30% or that a little too hopeful for something perfect?
>>550863921>98% of the skills and passive nodes aren't even worth consideringI'm talking about poe1, vro
>>550863872>this thing probably has a wife and kid
>>550863841go to poeninja and look at the most played builds at level 97+those are the builds that just walk through the map and instakill everything easy to play so the players dont get bored / tired and can grind more xp, fast clear so its more efficient
>>550864154>incorrect greentext usage>absolutely abhorrent statementpoe2 enjoyer coming through
I'm tired, boss...
>>550864197so you can't name them? and if poe2 is all 1 button builds why are doomers constantly complaining about combos and having to press so many buttons?
What tier or rare should I be picking up?
>>550864319But the chest can be either Magic or even Rare?
She's right.Jonathan is not at fault. We are.
>>550864367>why are doomers constantly complaining about combos and having to press so many buttons?Because these do less damage than chucking a lightning spear in pooworld2
>>550864547lightning spear was just used for clearing trash, for single target you used 3-4 different skills.
>>550863693if damage isnt a factor, hh is always slowereither you have low stacks and are obviously slower because the belt does nothing or you have a ton of stacks and get shroud walker constantly which makes looting slow (and cancer)>buildmaker's shame debuff by solving 1/2 your character with flask suffixesmageblood lets you solve 4 minor things with flask suffixes that are pretty easy to solve without itstun immunity, ailment immunity, cb immunity, resists, none of those require a magebloodheadhunter on the other hand lets you turn your retard 3k hp character into an unkillable monster you tell me which one is more shameful t. prefer using headhunter but theres no hard content in this league which requires it
>>550864523
>>550864523>Sure there are a lot of things the dev team can improve on and there's a lot wrong with the game but it's not their fault it's actually your fault for playing the game for 100s of hours.
>>550863872>vinlandian miscreation
>>550864725*equips culling strike support and aims towards*
>>550864725>need more dev timeESL opinion disregarded
poo1 would have less development time if troonatroon didnt dedicate so much effort into intentionally sabotaging it and making it shit. i bet he poured countless hours into theorycrafting how to make 3.27 as bad and gay as possible. put that effort towards poo2 instead, troonyboy. rather than destroy, create
The only counter claim poo2ers have to the doomers is "lolol poe1." Not one substantive argument or discussion about what makes poe2 good. Not one post about builds. Not one post about a niche interaction they found. Not one discussion of meta, or items, or crafts. The "poe2 community" is just a bunch of countrer contrarians echoing back at detractors. A shadow of a people, a husk.
>>550864654>mageblood lets you solve 4 minor things with flask suffixes>cb immunitynigga who the fuckalso I'm pretty sure most people are taking reflect and curse immunity these days
>>550864367is poeninja blocked in your country or something?sure i can go through the list>tubgun poisonburst pathfinder>spark lifestacker bloodmage>lightning spear amazon>ice shot amazon / deadeye>lightning arrow amazon / deadeye>coc oracledo you need me to look up anything else for you?
>>550864725I just can't understand why PoE1 players want the D4 clone sequel to fail
>>550865156
>>550864651That's so weird since I remember chucking a lightning spear at a boss and that shit exploding
>>550864651try upgrading from campaign gear
>>550865271When Johnathan adds 4 hours of empty zones to the campaign in 0.5 tri's gonna make the 0.4 doomgeddon look like a joke
>>550865029>heres that 1 button build i was telling you about
>>550865487
>>550865508yeah that character walks through the map, holds down spark and everything dieswhy did you need me to look it up for you if you can access poeninja yourself? are you just lazy?
>>550865432but i love camping
excuse me?
>>550865508>corrupting fever, reap, vaal reap, frost blink, trarthus blade fall, stone golem, chaos golem, lightning golem, flame golem, pride and 4 heraldsnotable 13 button build CF autobomber
Atziri is really hot
>>550865753PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPGET IN THE TUB GET IN THE TUB GET IN THE TUB GET IN THE TUB
>>550865776so having builds with lots of buttons is actually good?
What have you gotten from your Fate of the Vaal chests today, poeg?Any rare chests?
>>550866041>Pretending to be retarded after 1 (one) replyTworists really are SOFT
>>550866041embarassing post
is we getting a free lootbox on Christmas?
>>550864651>for single target you used 3-4 different skills.you used one of two skills, either you used storm lance, which was the more common all around version of the build, or you used wind serpent's fury, which was a minmaxed deadeye frenzy stacking variant.
new player here. Should I start with poe1 or 2? I played the free weekend and had a good time with it but this thread seems to be split about which is better
>>550866415If that was a PoE1 build it would have a 20 skill rotation.
This game needs more interesting and attractive characters. There's almost no nsfw content because no one wants to fuck generic abyss monster #42069
>>550865776>being a disingenuous tworanny trying to conflate active skills with auras and permanent minionsshiggydig
2shills really don't play their own game do they
>>550866636Poe1 if you have adhdPoe2 if you like soulslike gameplay
>>550866680
incomprehensible how theres still at least 1 person defending poe2 in these threads
>>550866846it's the weekend in new zealand
>>550866846What else are they gonna do, play poe2?
>>550866846talk about poe1.did you hit 100 in keepers, what challenges did you like when you were farming 40/40?
>>550866636Path 1 has always been redeveloped so while some detractor might say, "blah blah blah it's a 10 year old game" many parts are not. Play path 1 since we can view it as a more complete game. Path 2 if you like much slower game play. Path 2 I'm being told is easier for a new player but Path 1 will appeal to you if you're a big endgame autist.
>>550867068>path 1
there is simply nothing to do in poo2
>>550867063yeah i hit 100 farming scarabs and boxes cause jonathan pooped on the endgame dont care about challenges i kinda like just having them unfinished
>>550865508BTFO THAT POO1 POOPER
>>550866979it's the weekend in the entire world tbf
>>5508666361 is F2P and attracts the demographics that you most commonly see in F2P games.
>>550867193He's new. He asked about poe1. I responded with language that he might understand. Fuck off. Go back to your tub posting.
the poowuntroon seethe will increase logarithmically as we aproach poowun EOS...
>>550867494It's already happeningThe 0.4 meltie has been bigger than the 0.2 meltie
poo1 trannies on suicide watch after their poo1 league shit the bed lel
Poowun is already in maintenance mode KEK
>>550864654retard
>>550867494PoE2 killed in the cradle before 1.0 is unironically more likely than PoE1 eosGame is unsalvageable and Johnathan can't take the full force of game journalism ripping his crack baby apart
>>550864654Yeah minor things like permanent phasing and onslaught or immunity to literally every ailment in the game
poo2 trannies on suicide watch after their poo2 league shit the bed lel
>>550867772now this poowuntroon is huffing some good copium
>>550867772>this is how bernie can still win
>>550867673Better retention than 0.4 thoughbeit
real talkthey will push the next poe1 league to march next year and do new leagues every 3 months so the leagues aren't so hated like the last 2
>>550867817bro.. phasing and ailment immunity is 2 abyss jewel without mageblood a lot of builds just have those on gear
>>550867991>they will push the next poe1 league to marchmore like june and it will be a rehash of an old league like d3 is doing every season
>>550864373Japanese sando look so good in anime but I bet they would be disappointing irl. I don't think anyone can top american sandwich culture.
>>550867903>poe 1 is bernieare you implying that the system propping up poe2 is all fake and gay globoshlomo rather than organic grass roots popularity?
>fubcel headhuntard doesnt know what opportunity cost ispottery
>>550867870>>550867903PoE1 can toss out some supporter packs and make rent.PoE2 is a black hole of resources with a brokie playerbase that only seems capable of making the game less popular over time.What's so hard about this equation?
poe1 is not profitable...
>>550864319Why are you expecting the game to be good when it isn't even a year old? It took almost 10 years for poe 1 to get good. We are still the better part of a decade away from poe 2 being playable.
mageblood makes a good character betterheadhunter makes a shit character overpowered
>>550868349retard
>>550868349PoE1 was so profitable they had to make an entire sequel as a tax write off (the only explanation for how bad it is)
hh is for brownsmb is for whites
>>550868305they probably made more from that gay crocodile mtx than 3.27 supporter packs.
>>550868420What happens when you put HH on a good character is gonna blow your mind
i wish i could make an unprofitable game and retire in my 30s to travel the world with my $10 million usd magic card collection
>>550868650holy shit
>>550868692he is in his 40s, still it's very impressive what he has done
What went wrong?
>>5508686502 streamers bought that, redditors want the bear
>>550868420mageblood makes every character feel amazing the instant you put it on with a 95% inc effect quicksilver. it can be put on 99% of builds to instantly make them significantly better. headhunter is situational, you require a build that can already clear rares fast and move decently fast for various headhunter buffs to scale them up, doesn't work against bosses, and comes with the occasional shroudwalker "please just fucking kill me now" downside.
>>550868687>have a character that is immortal and can instakill everything>equip headhunter>out of combat movespeed drops by 100% and i start teleporting around randomly whoa...
>>550868845Kek wtf
>a crocodile mogs your entire gamepoowunsisters...
>>550868954>out of combat movespeed drops by 100%What are you doing out of combat, pussy?
>>550868845lmao fucking based scooter kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAcfA68w98M
>>550868078For the price of one flask suffix and one jewel socket Mageblood lets you completely remove Sap, Ignite, Chill, Freeze, Shock, and Scorch from the game. It's hard to find an opportunity cost lower than that.There's also a tangible difference between permanent unconditional phasing and on-kill phasing, same with onslaught, you never have to deal with any risk of anything stopping and starting and slowing you down ever. And then from there you can still slap on a fuckton of extra ms, crit chance, all-res or any max res of your choice (which becomes all res on chieftain even), straight damage, whatever you wantI don't see the logic behind downplaying MB when it's so comically OP the whole community treats it as a main leaguestart farming goal>>550868198Based and #badass clapback, fellow girlboss
>>550868953>mageblood makes every character feel amazing the instant you put it on with a 95% inc effect quicksilverit just makes you move fastyou can put hh on a retard tier day 1 leaguestart character and you will go from half clearing t17s with 6 portals to blasting them at maximum speed and only dying at the start of the map sometimes. killing a single rare monster isnt that hard. hh lets you clear t17s without reading map mods on a 10k ehp character (i mean ehp, not life + es)
>>550869230not gonna click, idc what that roach eating magaturd has to say
>take all the wisp nodes on the atlas>this happens when you kill a rare
>>550867941>better retention>literally cant hit 100k and he thinks ggg cares about retentionKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>550869481looks like a poe1 loot screen, filled with shitty rares
>crafted my wandFeels good man. Now I just need to craft my boots, focus, and save up about 200 div for my helmet and jewels. Then I'll be ready to play the game.
Zaccie is pushing his agenda for less poe1 development resources straight to Tencent and Mark doesn't have a say anymore after 3.27's performance.I think the end is nigh.
>>550869481HOLY SHIT YOU CAN VENDOR THAT FOR LIKE 3 REGALSt. jonathan
>>550869305>I don't see the logic behind downplaying MB when it's so comically OP the whole community treats it as a main leaguestart farming goalI think it's less about downplaying MB and more of people not understanding how BIS HH is for some content (yes, even considering a character that is not a potato and accounting for shroudraper)
>>550869706but my gamba
>>550869456>these guys optimize the fun out of everything and they have fun doing that He's right though.
>>550868845I keked
They're not going to stop making new content poop1 leagues before they finish this stupid Zana arc they started
>>5508695060.4 is headed for worse RAW numbers than settlersNot retention, RAWHARDBALD
>>550869694
poe2 is so boring and unfun that even the most adamant troons cant pretend to like it the only way to make it look good is pretending that poe1 is worsethats why last epoch and diablo 4 scare them
>>550869909>he thinks ggg actually has anyone more than a skeleton crew of 3 guys working on poo1
>>550870010Free weekend + game awards rewards blasted to every twitch user tooG R I M
>>550870010so the worst league in poe2 is still above poe1 best league?
>>550869694All he had to do was put life on the tree
>>550870162
Fate of the Vaal having less players than Settlers 2 weeks into the league is actually a good thing. Here's why.
>>550870161every weekend is free weekend in poo1 and you got 7k players LMAO
>>550870162>settlers>poe1 best leagueHOPESISTERS I NEED REINFORCEMENTS
>>550870010>admitting the worst poo2 league btfo the best poo1 leagueLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>550870162the worst league YET.Trend line is pointing down very steep, league over league.
>>550870375Settlers is the single highest playercount poe1 has ever had
A year from now we'll have swords, endgame, templar and a complete campaign. The game will be full f2p and each league will sit at over 500k players for 2 weeks minimum. Have fun with your dooming while you can, each patch gets the game closer to perfection and soon enough you won't have anything to complain about except that there isn't enough time in the day to play. Jonathan is going to shit gold all over your faces.
when did frogposters turn their backs on poe1
so yeah basically we just had 300 developers working on poe2 for 5 years and it performs worse than the game we already had and that good game we had that had 10 years of consistent growth is now dying because we were busy making the new bad game and it was a colossal waste of time and theres no reason for the game to exist and now we have 0 good games but its not really a big deal and basically, youre retarded
>>550870162Holy btfo
>>550870474>in 1 year so far they delivered 1 act and 2 classes>we still need 4 more classes and 2 more acts>somehow in this year they'll deliver all of thatman, how do you guys stay this delusional.bonus:the game is dogshit, has no endgame and apparently doesn't know for shit what it wants to do on the crafting front.
those redditors that are complaining about the campaign being too long?the ones that quit the game because they didnt want to go through it again?oh, they are going to LOVE 0.5 when we give them 2 whole new acts to chow down on 0.5 will have 500k players M I N I M U M
>4th patch of my brand new game barely edging out the maintenance patch for the previous game is great actually0.5 predictions?
>poo1 anons are unironically saying poo2 a EA pay to play game which has 1 free weekend per league during its worst retention is stil BTFOing poo1's best leagues while poo1 is forever f2pKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>550870162TRVKAPOCALYPSE
>>550870162brvtal mogging
0.1 release is as big as poo2 was ever gonna be. i hope poo2babs can live with that fact.
>>550870750it's neck and neck
>>550870162This kills the poo1 troon
>>550870957it made more money in a month than poe1 made in 5 yearsjonathan will be fineKEK
>>550870985>More concurrent players on week 1 than month 2We did it xisters
Get. In. The. Tub.
>>550871068it also cost more money to make than poe1 in 5 years.convenient fact to leave out.
>>550870791ok but uhhh poo2 jeet brown tranny troonathan tub!
>>550870661Yes retard, building the foundation of a game is the most time consuming and difficult part. Once endgame is finalized next patch everything after will be far easier. It's just plug and play upgrades after that.
>>550870791>>550870162rape of the century for the poe1 tards
>>550871205>building the foundation of a game is the most time consuming and difficult partQuite curious that the game hasn't improved in the year since then
Will temple be good before 0.5?https://youtu.be/dUlLRTeGrGE?t=953
BRVTALRAPE
>>550871205>finalizedi wouldn't go that farnot even poo1 endgame is "finalized", they added yet another type of map in 3.26
>>550869424>to blasting them at maximum speedyea, the same "maximum speed" you had before you put the belt on. and "just makes you move fast" is literally the ultimate goal of the game, which megablood does better than any other item, along with your choice of three out of capping resists and freeing up lots of suffixes on your gear, curse immunity, stun immunity, ailment immunity, massive crit chance, massive armor/evasion, etc.
>>550871148also, it's not even half done yet >>550871205but not even acts or classes are done, and they can't even figure out what they wanna do with endgame.it's just been a scam and poo2jeets are having a hard time coming to terms with that fact.
>>550871315that classic wow drop lol
>>550869481>>550869613sis you really need to use a better filter
>>550871315i dunno, but 90 million is way less than 100 million (in 4 years), guess those 5 years were a lie?also, again, we're leaving out the higher dev costs and the extremely increased marketing costs.also, since both games share mtx and also points, i wouldn't put it beyond a skilled financial person to move as much poe1 profits to poo2 to make it look good.
>>550871315ACK
>>550871315Thanks, doc.
>um see this game with 10x my favorite game's player numbers is actually doing worse than my favorite game because if you extrapolate the hypothesis and carry the 2 uhhhh development costs uh marketing
The tweet that killed GGG.
>>550871315holy btfo, poo1 troons might ack over this anon
>>550871630KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>550871541
>>550856832I dont knownif all classes do it but Druid seems to talk everytime you open the chest whether you get something worthwhile or its just 4 blue turds in a blue box.
>line is going down league over league in a straight line>this is a good thingok, explain
>>550871658>PoE2 making less money than 2017 PoE1 immediately after the accesskeycoin crashHow do we cope doombros....0.5 may make more money than tempest......
POE2 would be better with the Diablo 3 real-money auction house
there's a reason why mageblood is 160 divs while headgiver is only 10 divs.
>>550871346>yea, the same "maximum speed" you had before you put the belt onhave you ever tried farming t17 maps on bad character? its like 5x faster with headhunter, no exaggerationits not that hard to get enough dps for t17s but you will die constantly and you have to slow down to avoid dying even more. chest explosions will unironically kill you if you dont run from them like a pussy, theres those yugul mobs with the on death effect, the burrowing enemy, the mob that spawns those abyss exploding things, goats that oneshot you, you get the idea. you can avoid dying to those things even if your character is squishy as fuck but it slows you down significantly.with headhunter? nothing matters, you just walk forwardyeah mageblood lets you run faster but you still have to do a gay little dance to avoid dying and its way slowerof course if your character is actually good, that isnt a factor anymore
>>550871630
there needs to be actual regen on the bottom/left side of the tree instead of more conditional faggotry
Hold up does /poeg/ actually think PoE 2 is good now or is it just comparatively better to 1
>>550872060It's a meme you dip
>>550872060PoE2 is a work of art.poo1 is a goyslop casino for retards
>>550872009Play ES like the devs intended
>>550872060we're being raided by the poe2prideparade discord group
>>550872060neither, in fact twopoopers are coping extra hard right now because their latest league was received poorly and is flopping sooner than usual.
>>550872060it's just early shift in india, it's always like this around this time of day
>>550872158Compared to poe1 it's better, but I don't think any Diablo knockoff is actually a good game on its own merits.
>>550871630kek
ok i need you to R8 and H8 give it to me STR8, how's the build comingi know i need more armoralso is the Adamant Recovery node just not working? it's supposed to any apply increases/reduction to armor to ES as well but when i spec into the node literally nothing changes
>full thread of copingListen up retards. Your game is dying. Yes. YOURS!And no amount of "but the other one dying faster" is gonna save yours.
>>550872526
>>550872060/poeg/ has never said either game is good and never willComparatively yes though, the seething about poe2 is an extremely angry minority, you can join 1488 in 1 and see a couple of posters who bring up poe2 unprompted to seethe about it even while the channel is dead
>>550872060its just 1 autist who got triggeredto answer your question, the game is in a weird spot where it doesnt really appeal to anyone. the campaign is fun to play through a few times but after that the novelty wears off and you dont feel like doing it anymore. casuals were the target audience of the game, but they dont want to come back to play it every league.the endgame is bad, no other way to put it. controlling your character can be fun depending on what you play but the actual endgame progression and gameplay is worse than even games like diablo and last epoch. does grim dawn have an endgame? i dont think so. i guess poe2 has a better endgame than grim dawn. so it definitely does not appeal to the kind of person that plays arpgs for the endgame.theres a huge void in the arpg genre and pretty much any game could suck up those few hundred k players in an instant. i wouldnt be surprised if the next LE patch gets more players than poe2.
>>550872526this is what a dying game looks like, anon.>>550871858
>>550871315>80% drop off in 1 yearCovert doompost
>>550872816retard
>>550872816i hate poo2, and a lot of poe1 profits are probably moved into poo2 in that graph, but you gotta admit that it's just january, while the 2025 bar is a whole year.
>>550872816>in 1 yearlol doomers really are an intelligent bunch.
poo2's biggest problem isn't the retarded slow boring and pointless endgamepoo2's biggest problem and the reason why everyone gets mad while playing the game and starts hating on everything is BECAUSE:the maps are so fucking big and you're crawling through them it makes the game painful to play, it's so fucking laborious to play the fucking game I get mad even thinking about it
>>550872526i have moved on to the acceptance stage and i am currently trying to figure out the next retarded live service game to waste my life onunironically considering getting back into league of legends which i used to play a lot but it also is kinda dead and badgamers are truly the most oppressed race
>>550871315>comparing that small end bit of abandoned 1 year long settlers in JanuaryThe little things they don't tell you :)
>>550872009Somebody told me flicker strike counts as stationary, which seems retarded but was apparently true. Also slams count as stationary even if your character moves. Go on standard respect to try and see it. It does seem to be true. Stand in a degen and get out and just visually check my difference between moving and not. Stand in a degen and rolling slam, it is at stationary rate. Absolutely retarded but funny. Go on bear, have some of the stationary nodes to play slam bear. Bear stands up. Takes a deep breath. Gets a light stun despite armor + stun resistance in tree, loses his stationary status to the light stun.
>>550872948PLAY VAMPIRE SURVIVORS IF YOU JUST WANT TO KILL MONSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE APPRECIATE A SLOW SCENIC WALK THROUGH THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES OF WRAECLAST IN THIS GENERAL
poe2s biggest problem is you cannot turn your brain off an grind due to both general map layouts and lack of overall defensive layers. The game is exhausting to play because you always have to be switched on to stay alive and actually complete content. Being able to trivialize low end strats is a huge factor in poe1s staying power because you can choose when you want to focus and when you want to just relax and have fun blasting monsters
the retards dooming on poe2 and loving poe1 right now, were the retards dooming on poe1 from 2017 to 2024let that sink in
>>550872635>pretty much any game could suck up those few hundred k players in an instantTechnically true but as of yet there's no other ARPG that really comes close to the level of smoothness/polish that PoE2's WASD and general controls have, and PoE1 cornered the market on complexity and depth years ago so it'd be a herculean feat to make a game more autistic than PoE1. D4 is blizzshit that's dead in the water. LE was promising but they tried really hard to scrape PoE's audience with "QOL" that ended up making the game so easy and straightforward as to be boring. Other ARPGs like Grim Dawn aren't trying to hit PoE player numbers so they're free to fuck around and follow their own vision (this is a good thing btw), but that also means they're never going to be able to hit PoE numbers. So the market IS open for a PoE killer, but you'd need a lot of budget and a lot of skill and this niche is short on both these days.>>550872948I feel like they intended for travel skills to work how they do in 1 when they first designed 2's maps, before they realized that shield charge being your most used skill in acts is fucking gay. They could do with a slight crunch
>>550873217Ranged can do thisNot the having fun part, but the brain off part
>>550873229literally me
>fubcel is already mirror crafting with viewer donationsis the league actually over already? what the fuckits been 1 week
Theres for sure something fucked with damage or defensive. Im doing the lightning coil thing with shaman and im still getting fucking rocked. Im even at 80% max res for lightning. That's with adaptation double effect as well.
>>550873229If the vision brought you to poo2 of what use was the vision?
>>550873582Are you shocking yourself by accident? I forget which support gems it was but there's a bug that spreads your shocks to yourself
alright my meme build is officially online and I'm probably ready to quit the league after I kill atziri since I have nothing left to do, I am running triple herald plague+blood+ice as a full chaos conversion lunar blessing/lunar assault setup. for map bosses I just weapon swap to Last Lament and delete them in 2 seconds with Requiem which for some reason GGG left untouched when kneecapping the rest of the build from last patch.Lunar Blessing gives 75% damage as extra cold, so even as Original Sin chaos poison/bleed conversion you can freeze enemies, when enemies die you've got herald of blood+herald of plague+bursting plague+Bleed III chaining on top of Herald of Ice explosions leaving behind Frozen Spite ice fragments and permanent uptime on another 30 to 40% damage as cold from Bhatair's Vengeance. Ancestral Boost on Lunar Assault spawns two shadow clone werewolves who swipe in different directions from you so the entire screen gets frozen+bled+poisoned and explodes.
>>550873128i know, every melee skill is considered stationary while attacking. it's the same thing with all skills in poe1. it's fine if you're using something like blood magic. the problem is when you're relying on regen as a defense, then when your health is low and you need to run you get none of the regen you just invested like 7 points into.
>>550871630Yeah it's a little thing called covid and inflation. Poe 2 is making more money but that money is worth much less.
>>550871306Is he blind or something? The oneshot was clearly telegraphed.>monster level 66Sure, probably shouldn't have only 1 attempt for low level temples.
how much did ggg pay for this poo2 positivity social media campaign?
>>550861217Cawfee
>>550873923in your case it's copevid
>>550873659I dont think so, I dont really use shock. I can maybe try running the shock charm and seeing if it activates later.
>>550873805nta but that's why i use consecrated ground with both pounce and devour so you get regen when you pounce + melee and are stationary which stacks with the consecrated ground, and devour you get a ton extra for the corpse consumption on top of being stationary with consecrated ground to boosti can get up to 2100 energy shield regen/s for one corpse with devour
>>550872009you're better off just getting a flat regen roll on your belt and slotting something like pic related than bothering with how dogshit most regen nodes are on the tree, they're retardedly conservative compared to ES and Leech.the only regen I have is the Heavy Drinker stuff near merc and thats only because it also gives 40% faster flask recovery which turns a Utility Belt flask into an instant full heal
>>550871630MORE POPULAR = BETTERMORE POPULAR = BETTERMORE POPULAR = BETTERMORE POPULAR = BETTERWHY CANT YOU PATH 1 RETARDS UNDERSTAND THIS
>>550861889There is a stair
>>550874143now post a retention chart!
>>550874143meltie
ok but why didnt they make poe2 fun though
>>550874227YOU LOST
>>550873923>>550874143>back to back seething replies 20 minutes laterDiscordxisters we are not smart enough for this
>>550874296i think laughing about it failing is pretty fun
>>550873362>D4 is blizzshit that's dead in the water.>just got huge press dropping the most requested class out of nowhere with a highly anticipated expansion and a second class in a few months>more content than poe 2 has gotten in it's entire lifeGet better at shitposting bwo.
>>550871886this guy looks like he would fiddle with your build and five minutes later be fiddling with your kids
i'm gonna play poe2
>>550874325WE KNOW, YOU LOST
>>550874348it would be a lot funnier if they hadnt killed poe1 for it
Oh he woke up, that's why
>>550874449umnmm actually chud that is an valid anime princess
nobody cares about the troons that use 1488 neck yourself
>>550874517i agree, but they'll learn soon enough
>>550872604>>550874559>keepers so dead you have to doomcuck in poo2
>>550874617yep my math checks out
>>550874479nobody is saying this
>>550871886Poe 2 would be better if it stole more from Diablo 3. As it stands, Jonathan copied surface level stuff without understanding what made the game good.
>>550874664doomposting about poe2 is the endgame in 3.27
>it's only one guy disliking poop 2hmm
BOTH GAMES SUCKPOOP 1 SUCKSPOOP 2 SUCKSGGG SUCKSJONATHAN IS A RETARDbed time, good night
>>550874830they should have copied torchlight infinite like poe1.
really cool mod, shitting out 12 chaos projectiles that all shotgun and rape you to death
poo1 got stretched in this thread
>>550875219many such cases!
>>550875074torchlight infinite is a better game than poe2 and it makes more money
i like poe2, it's a gift that keeps on giving
>>5508749192jeets are desperate after the 0.4 gigaflop
>poe 1 and 2 are so good but everyone just wants to sit in a 4chan general and argue instead of playing the supposed good gamescurious
Is there a skill or support that does damage based off your thorns damage?Or was that poe1? I was thinking of trying a bear thorns build
2 Games2 CampaignsBoth Shit
>>550874195yeah, lets see keepers of the flame retention charts:) oh, and overlay poo1 concurrent players graph over poe2 concurrent players graph during active leagues
>>550875413nobody's arguing, there is nothing to argue about>poo2 lost>poe1 got sacrificed for it>ggg burning out>old guard quit>everyone lost
i used to have "poo 1" on my filter until todaywas the shitposting always this bad?
>>550875312tli is kino
>>550875540I'm playing gacha games instead and having fun, don't care call me a tranny you can't hurt me more than Jonathan already has.
>>550875594>filtering things on 4chanthat's how the other side wins, anon.
>>550875594call it shitposting if you want, but its just trvth about poo of dogshit cookie clicker slop for one synapse per button in the build niggerbrained fubcels
>>550875697I'll stop using filters when Hiro rangebans India and SEAUntil then there is nothing wrong with filtering swarthbabble and only the shitskins being filtered have a problem with not being heard
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>>550875673you're not a tranny, you're a paypiggy cuck.>playing a game where the main gameplay mechanic is forking over money to the devsjust why?>>550875749anon, it's the other way around. this is what tiktok did to your attention span:>i can't play a game if it doesn't keep my attention with 7 different buttons, wasd and dodgeroll
>>550875749now type that without crying
>>550875697who is the "other side"?
>>550875919>>550875919>>550875919>>550875919>>550875919
>>550862585flicker strike
god why are poe2's levelling uniques so retarded. who the fuck had the genius idea to give thrillsteel a level 27 requirements. just why
>>550875749Fubgun is 6,000,000x richer than you in poe2 though
there is absolutely no reason dying on a map boss should wipe the map other than pure laziness by ggg
