pong edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous Thread>>550832839
Don't let the attention seeker get away with it
sending good vibes to all lolidevs
men wanted for game development
>>550909248oh look, the ericschizoschizo posted it again.
gamedev musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tjcy6CKYY
Please read pic related in regards to /v/3.
>So many studios are now coming out to defend Larian - saying they too used AI in the concepting phase >They're all getting flayed by the anti-AI crowd>Meanwhile no one says shit about Valve using AI to make concept art for Deadlock
>>550909471>>550909768What's the game?>>550909835It's a good thing I have 20 years of experience programming.
Have anyone ever made a procedural VN, where it uses a fixed random seed, but you can select like 5-6 anime girls from a list of 256 anime girls, and then the game just calculates their behaviour and output a VN oneshot?
>>550909248I believe in Eric supremacy
>>550909943>What's the game?educational cell biology game. You play as a single celled organism and micromanage the insides of the organism (organelles, protein complexes) in order to get things done. We'll make assets using the protein data bank and the final result will be a mix of mechanics we take from city builders, rts games and colony sims.My first two attempts taught me a lot and now I'm ready to buckle down and make it for real.
>>550909196>https://itch.io/jam/12-days-of-christmas-paddle-and-ball-game-jam-2025Nice. 4 days left to submit your ball and paddle game!
The reason you should dev often is so the barrier between your will and the act of creation becomes ever thinner until it is lighter than air. Lighter than light.https://youtu.be/EqaoLtJ4-RY&t=71
My game lost it's AI virginity, but now I see the backlash against AI I want it's virginity back
>>550910595the gamemaker attempt:
>>550910502yes, dwarf fortress harem mode does that
>>550911234the Unreal Engine successor:
>>550910502cris please kill yourself
>>550907746>>550908712>Sounds very "indie"Apparently you have to coalesce out of the morning mists, or sprout out of the earth like the spring grasses. Otherwise you're not truly indie.Me? I emerged fully formed from the mountain forests one day, like a cryptid.
>>550911414the project was a failure in some ways but in other ways it is just a stepping stone for the next project which is going to be even better
>>550896195i look like this>>550897806aieeeeee!!!! i don't want to work on my game right now!!!!!! it's loathsome work and i dont wanna!
cris needs a women. these games are attempts to fill that void. just find a retarded colombian wife, can't be that hard.
it can't be that hard to find a latina gf in spicland
>>550911609not true indie. I was born in hell, clawed my way out until my arms were nubs, regrew them through sheer grit, then started collecting sand for my cpu I set out to build...
>>550911854>has prior experience in hellSorry this puts you on par with a AAA industry insider. Basically a nepobaby.
imagine cris gets a big booty sexy latina gf with big fat tits on a slim frame that mogs most anons gfs, marries her, and has a dozen kids, and then he trains them all on gamedev for a decade. can they make a kof clone as a 13 man team? could cris finally prove aggy daggy wrong and just like make successful game?
>>550910595>>550911635okay last screenshot of the Unreal engine project. I'm looking for people who are open to trying again maybe working together. We would make the world a better place and get to talk about biology, chemistry, physics, cool stuff like genetics and it would be really cool. I can code, do art, and I can teach you how to use Visual Molecular Dynamics 2.0, Molstar viewer, Pymol or even Blender's Molecular Nodes.
>>550910595>>550911234It's kind of interesting, but very vague at the same time. You're starting with a theme and attempting to pigeonhole game mechanics. Not every theme can become a game. Have you tried making a GDD which explicitly lays out every gameplay mechanic and the gameplay implications behind each mechanic? IMO, there's no way it turns out to be fun. As a game, it's unintuitive and overly complicated.>city builders, rts games and colony simsEach of those genres have very specific gameplay structures that make them work. Mixing and matching mechanics doesn't automatically produce a reasonable game. Have you considered turning this into a incremental? That could be more reasonable.
>>550912071Who is cris, are you talking about Roger?
just played pong tower, reeeeeeeee archwizard is cheating!!!!!! also i didn't face off against the rest, archwizard was first
>>550909196>crowd cheering>sweet heavy metal music>this ones a contender
>>550912369Cristobal Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno Crispín Crispiniano María Remedios de la Santísima Trinidad Ruiz Picasso
>>550909382how hard is it to model all these things in the pic? is it a time consuming process?
>>550912690Why don't you try and find out, nodev?
>>550912678His real name is Roger, he's from Honduras.
i hate this hobby
>>550912810Stop trying to make Roger a thing, Pedro the Chilean-Thai ladyboy.
>>550912934Stop bitchin' and start devvin'
>>550912247There is already precedent. GOOD precedent.It's based off the 2010 flash game CellCraft.>You're starting with a theme and attempting to pigeonhole game mechanics.>Not every theme can become a game.>Mixing and matching mechanics doesn't automatically produce a reasonable game.>Have you considered turning this into a incremental? That could be more reasonable.Ugh. You're the only thing worse than an idea guy.
>>550912678According to these records Cris is second in line to the throne of Spain...hey Cris buddy, would you mind lending me $100k at 0.01% annual interest so I can dev my game? Did I ever tell you how handsome you are? Oh yeah my game is a Castlevania clone with pixel-gold tier art, do you want to see before investing in it?
>>550912934Same but change it to jobby for me. I've made negative money despite how long I've been at it.
it works but programming in GDscript makes me feel like a chubby little baby in a high chair with a binkie and a sippy cup
>>550913087Game design is really hard. If you have a very specific game that you want to start from like this CellCraft game, that makes it 10x easier. A collab can't work if the requirements are too vague. "Copy an existing game exactly" is way easier than just some vague idea. I highly doubt that game is scientifically accurate. It most likely favors reasonable and fun gameplay over scientific accuracy.
>>550913720>I highly doubt that game is scientifically accurate>It most likely favors reasonable and fun gameplay over scientific accuracy.Breaking newsOne anonymous 4chan poster claims "Game made by biology graduate students is 'probably unrealistic'"
I have to admit... Gemini is pretty useful devros
I will use gemini to vibe code the storytelling engine of my procedural VN.Otherwise It would be literally impossible for me to design it and write all the posibilitites.
>>550914310Sure you will cris.
>>550914310cris, you raped your cousin
how to fix?
>>550913859Are you a woman?
>>550914669yeah
I'm not trying to make Roger a thing, just pointing out that you guys harass devs and then blame it on two people named Cris and Joshua.
>>550914523The white character model appears to be stuck, potentially because the navigable area (navmesh) has not been generated correctly or is blocked by an obstacle. Here are some suggestions to troubleshoot and potentially fix this kind of problem:Visualize the Navmesh. Most game engines allow you to display the navigation mesh (often a green overlay) using a debug view. This will show the actual areas where the AI agent is allowed to walk. Check Obstacles. Ensure that walls and other non-walkable objects are correctly marked as solids or obstacles, and that the pathfinding agent is set to avoid them.
>>550915089How new are you?
Took a while but enemies now properly shoot at the player, made new weapon controlling system, can equip any weapon on them and it will just work.
>>550912934what are you having problems with, anon
>>550915089cris doesn't harass anyone except by existing.
New enough to spot a disinformation and FUD campaign. It's funny because we use Taylor Swift to blame all the shitposts on in a different general.
>>550914926Understandable. Have a nice day.
Progress
>develop a game>sell a vibe
>>550915253Nice.
MOVE>>>/bant/23748316>>>/bant/23748316>>>/bant/23748316
number reach zero
>>550915415Eric Barone is our Taylor Swift. Lurk more, newfaggot.
>ourWho is this group you speak of?
>>550917857us
SIXSEVEN
There is no us. There are anons, namefags, and discord troons.
i have no willpower
>>550918545Had enough willpower to make that post
>>550918356All me.
I want to impress a cute girl with my game.
>30+ games submitted each demo day>less than 3 progress posts a day>any time an anon shows any competence>the thread gets slid with pedo shit and troon gore>someone blames it on "cris">anon leaves thread
>>550918641this stuff has ruined every single one of my favorite threads ive spend 15 years posting in
They know what kind of spotlight posting on 4chan provides, and they claim it as their own while hiding on discord or IRC.
>>550918698>>the thread gets slid with pedo shit and troon goredebunked
Cris is an angel, a gentleman, and most importantly, a yesdev. We would never blame anything on Cris.
>>550918356Based: The Post
>>550918698No one blames it on cris
i got my ncurses system copy/paste working by creating a window inside the terminal >;3
Is the discord in the thread with us right now?
Why are there no games where you play as Santa? Like Factorio meets Santa? That would be fun. Build the shop, then deliver all the presents once a year.
>>550920546https://store.steampowered.com/app/2854710/Chocolate_Factory/
yeah i'm pretty sure my game is terrible
>>550920719can confirm
Sleep apnea assassinated my sleep, grey matter and dev quality again(due to a minor headache).
>>550920946rest up
>>550920719I've been feeling like this lately... how to fix?
>>550921262Make a better game.
>>550920694This is factory, but I think a santa game would have some light unit management and RTS mechanics where you manage elves and reingeer and shit
>>550921363I need to finish this one though
>>550921564Is someone holding a gun to your head, or are you a victim of sunk cost?
>>550920694ntathis is just a cutesy automation game.It's missing the story/setting of being Santa having to meet a deadline by Christmas every year, which would really be the key selling point.Maybe make it so some machines are powered by magic and magic is powered by Christmas cheer and you have less of it to draw on if you don't make enough presents, and are rewarded with more magic resource if you do well.Have random events that change every year like a baby boom, demand for certain types of toys (that need different resources and production lines), etc.
>>550921652both, sunk cost and my own hand holds the gun.
>>550921748>he's gonna jblow is brains out
i understand why nintendo controls their IP with an iron fist after stepping in an undertale yellow thread
>>550918954I was unironically thinking of this webm earlier.>>550920719I eventually realized it but the sunk cost was gripping me hard. Ended up dropping it soon after project hopping when being away from it so long made me lose all incentive to continue.
>>550921841if I had sunk 10 years and 30 mil into it... click
i will never be a game dev soley because i cannot model, and it sucks because i really want to make a game but im a programmer; not an artist>b-but!!! muh free assets!!free assets do not look like what i want them to look like
I feel like there's an element of /agdg/ culture that shames devs into sticking to the same project way longer than they should. e.g., We say "where is you're game" and "post game" as if a developer is supposed to have just one singular game. As a whodev chronic project hopper, I don't really have "a game" to post: just a mountain of abandoned prototypes and various tech demos, and I know I'm not the only one like this. However, I feel like guys like myself are much closer to assembling a good game out of all these parts and workflows than most "one game" developer, minus maybe a few.
>>550922790>free assetswhat is stopping you from hiring an artist?
>>550923143money
>>550922790low poly is literally 90% texture dont give up when you didnt even finish yet
>>550923010if you have a game, you have skin in the game.
>>550923232im not an artist, my pixel art looks like shit plus i cant uv map
>>550923230but programmers out earn artists
programming is the easiest skill to learn compared to making 3d/2d assets and music
I think I got enough traits for a Dwarve fortress level npc.
>>550923440cris...
>>550923437it's you use an engine it's all easy you're just dumb
>>550923504codejeet...
>>550923370>implying im a corpo programmerbest i could get was min wage at a restaurant lmaonobody wants to hire someone who isnt an indian and never went to college.
Just like make art.
>>550923839that's obviously AI
>>550923437Copying existing code off of tutorials, examples, and AI makes you as much of a programmer as tracing makes you an illustrator.
>>550924010i don't do any of those things thoughbeit
>>550923883Nuh huh.
>>550924141>thoughbeitWe know. You don't make video games either.
My game is so complex I have to figure out how it's even possible first.
>>550924286Start with two paddles and a ball, work your way up from there.
>>550924286Spoilers: it's not.
People keep saying >Art is the hardest part of game devbut most of the indie games on steam's new and trending use very little original art. I think artists just purposelessly gimp themselves and expect others to do the same. Its like when people say Elden Ring is this super hardcore game but say you didn't beat the game if you use certain mechanics. Well is it -really- that hard or are you just doing a challenge run where you don't use all the tools available to you?
>>550923839god i fucking hate artists, flaunting their abilities almost as though they are mocking me for what i cannot do
>>550898874Cared enough to reply.>>550899592>Unironically defending gachaslopGrim.
>>550924174the pixelart is already done before he starts doing it, and only AI comes up with this atrocious lineart, which leads me to believe it was all AIslop from the start since the retarded "artist" couldn't come up with a fix for pixelart of all things
>>550924365>>550924379>can't even comprehend how some people want to make games based on new mecahnics instead of just copying games and adding a slight "twist" to "set it apart"Cope.I am extremely thankful for chatGPT as it helped me evolve my idea without having someone else steal it.
>>550924856I'm sure your idea is great, start with Pong.
>>550924856um.... you know that the ai will just steal it right? it already didin fact anything you type into ai by law is theirs did you not read the tos?
>>550924456>People keep saying >>Art is the hardest part of game dev>but most of the indie games on steam's new and trending use very little original art. I think artists just purposelessly gimp themselves and expect others to do the same. >Its like when people say Elden Ring is this super hardcore game but say you didn't beat the game if you use certain mechanics. Well is it -really- that hard or are you just doing a challenge run where you don't use all the tools available to you?
>>550924456Art has a few hard "talent" requirements like being able to rotate the apple in your mind and having high enough cognitive resolution to recognize your own errors, but I would say most 130+IQ people can figure it out. Those who can't end up as perma/beg/s like Cris and Azurdev, and they're not the ones saying art is hard.Game design is the hardest part of game development.
>>550924694already done? he shrunk it to his pixel art size and redid the job manually.
>>550925257Releasing a bug free game is the hardest part, that's why none of you use your own engines.
>>550924951>Unreal gives you a template>YouTube tutorials give you a templateIt ain't that deep lil broIt can't. I not only turned off sharing but it is literally too incomprehensible for the NPC ZOGmind. Besides, they're already spying through our eyeballs and tried to get me to join the freemasons based on my idea. They would've made the game 10 years ago if they had the capabilityI'm only worried about fellow devs who have a SOVL and thus may be able to surmise my idea enough to steal it. Not spying gangstalking soulless fluoride freaks. They can't make shit only destroy our sense of peace and privacy temporary until we eradicate themhttps://youtu.be/wpg8iziLaA0
>>550925490Games don't have to be bug-free. They just need enough fun gameplay content to make up for any unfun caused by any bugs.
>>550922790literally meevery day, spend a few hours modelling something new and see how good you can get it. don't waste time polishing the same thing every day. you will get good in a few weeks.beginners should use a reference when modeling people and then eventually challenge themselves to do it from scratch.watch youtube videos about lowpoly modeling
>>550925192>>550925834
>>550925834Unreal does give you a template, have you tried making Pong in Unreal?
>>550925391shrinking your image doesn't make you forget how to draw a crotch
>>550925257
Photography is a higher art form than illustration.
>>550926291TRVKE
>>550926291Why aren't you making a live-action FMV game?
>>550926067that does look off. I didn't look closely there
>>550926006There's no pong templateI ain't branching off of pong lil nigga
>>550926291looking at things and forming memories is higher still. photographs are a mockery of the beauty of our world. best not to try to create externally.
>>550926291depends what kind you practice.
>>550926291>taking a picture of reality vs creating and displaying your own universe
>>550926291Nein.
>>550923010project hopping is great if and only if you're playtesting these prototypes with people irl or where you can see a recording of them streaming it with face cam. You need to test your ideas, and the only real way to do that is playtesting. You can't entirely trust your own taste. The only way to know if you've struck gold is if you see most playtesters have genuine interest and positive reaction towards your game, and especially if they keep bugging you afterwards about updates or wanting to play more.Most anons here have a forever project they continue to be attached to and put all their efforts towards despite it getting poor reception. Some haven't even playtested. Some haven't even coded anything and are just here to shitpost.
Cope, you just can't afford a good camera.
>>550926291Based. Games like Max Payne and Half Life 2 blow every /agdg/ game out of the water artistically and their art is carried heavily by photographed textures.
>>550926745You can and should be dropping game ideas much much earlier than at the playtesting step.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12tZyCMIYbg
>>550926745I just ask chatGPT because everyone ruined Melee. You don't just spam bro...I'm one of the best players and I don't dashdance or wavedash or ledge hog I do high damage KOs like Sakurai intended. It's in the Melee tutorial, Mario does a complex high risk meteor smash while every Mario player just spams back A. All air moves in Melee are overused. I use my B moves in the air because it sets up a cool looking combo with different techniques. I don't run and hide and "punish" or tech chase spamming the same move, it's extremely ugly and unaesthetic gameplay that can be overcome with mere reaction times. If you're gonna spam you're predictable. Niggas just try to spam so fast you literally can't even react in time, they aren't aiming or trying to outwit their opponent with clever, unpredictable movement because they rely on spam to win, not skill. Thought about doing tournaments and winning with my proper method of fighting cause I own on slippi, but I think I'd rather just make a better game. I'm tired of being the sole owner of this philosophy in my country. I don't have time to play against based Japanese appreciator's of Sakurai's work. I'm just going to have to force the world around me to change using the power of intelligence, not people.
>>550926843half life 2 had antonov albeit
>>550926843Realistic or le hecking reddit good graphics are not more artistic per se. In some senses you can attribute the realism from oil paintings into skil but from a true artists perspective beauty is in the eye of the beholder, creativity and imagination matter more than copying something well.
I built my models in roblox using their block, wedge and cylinder primitives but I want to swap to Unity, is it best to convert each gun into a single mesh or could these primitives maybe become unity primitives? Right now when I convert them to Unity it creates a unique mesh for every former roblox primitive and I was hoping for something more performant considering I have almost 100 weapons. I'm a noob in everything but roblox so I appreciate any help.
>>550927524just sell the pack to other roblox slopdevs
>>550925257Art is the hardest part of gamedev because of your pic, I will never be good enough for my self ._.
What are your 2026 dev goals
>>550927709to release a gaem
>>550925257This. You erase it and try again, with game design you can't even try until you figure it out in the first place, there's no throwing yourself against the wall and improving endlessly, takes a vision and willingness to reach it through total comprehension without falter.
>>550927709Finish my loli game and release it on Steam without being rejected.
