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>>550946884WE'RE ALMOST THERETHE TOTAL MAXX C DEATH IS NEARHOLD ON, BROTHERS
instantly burned up all their goodwill from overframes with this dogshit list
mitsu yummy still alive in ocg imhometamorphosis limited is kino af
How do you stop combo decks now
>>550946951your argument doesn't sound good when they put Maxx C to 1 this time after semi-limiting it instead of putting it back to 3
>>550946993Yeah Yummy didn't really get hit.Also>Bahamut+Toad legalMUSTBENICE
can we PLEASE stop hitting dracotail??????
>>550946987You kidding?This list is their first good one thus year
unhit maxx "c"
NEO BUBBLEMAN BROS WE'RE FUCKING BACK
>3 less cards that I instantly lose to and must run
>erm actually yummy is heckin fine and you don't have to limit snatchy because... look you don't need to ok?!so happy we're going to start killing this gay deck
>Maliss hit>Maxx C limitThe TCG takes 6 months to make a banlist. The OCG takes 6 months to start hitting shit.
>>550947113That's not even Faimena hitstop cryingSure, it may suck to lose a body that can fuse but thanks to white Albaz, Dracotail can always have access to Cartesia so the hit is a non-issue, really
Why did they limit Ice lmao, was Ryzeal even relevant enough in high level tournaments?
Going to start digging up all the posts from people that would seethe when I said it's time to start hitting ritual support like preprep.
>>550947313no, they lost their last bit of relevance after losing the handrip Xyz
>please try playing Branded the listThey forgot Dbarrier is though lmao
ACK
>>550947194>The OCG takes 6 months to start hitting shit.6 years you mean
>>550947425Damn I'm glad they made up their mind this time and actually hit the roach again instead of sparing it like in 2018
>>550947313Konami plans on making another good Rank 4 deck, I guess
moon doesn't deserve to die
>metamorphasis to 1God I love when the OCG just does crazy shit like this
it must suck to be a ryzeal fan in the ocg, the deck isn't even a deck anymore, it's just a subengine for gagagigogowhatever bullshitsuch a sad fate when maliss has almost no hits
yammi bros...
>>550947641At this point you have to wonder if Onomat is windowshopping for better supplementary engines
>>550947727Ext Ryzeal is still too good to drop
>>550947690Yummy got off way easier than the CRBR decks lmao, MitsuYummy still fully functions and they only have one name and Snatchy limited and le Beast lock summon 3 banned, to Ryzeal's ALL NAMES AND SEVENTH TACHYON AND BONFIRE limited , or Maliss's two bans and a limit
ryzeal's biggest sin was not being a waifu deck
>>550947727The people playing Onomat Ryzeal could always just use the Gogogogo normal summon they already have...
>>550947425>Unlimited>Semi-Limited>Limited>ForbiddenMy hero.
>>550946884>mululu, marshmao and snatchy limiteddamn lmao
>Rather than leaving one C as a draw card, wouldn't it be better to just ban them to match the TCG?>Mr. C, please ban it by next year lol>Konami: "Buy the new Galaxy Eyes lol">Neo Bubble Man: "I've been waiting for this day for so many years (tears of joy)">Isn't this a big tailwind for sky striker?>Lol, the countdown is on for the ban on increased C!>Mutation!? Finally, we can implement Elemental Hero Clay Guardman.>That's a pretty big deal. I didn't think they'd execute both Ransom and Mage.>Xyz and Link are banned again?>Bubble Man Neo has been officially summoned!>Has the person in charge changed? This is clearly too much>Valmonicae is not strong, but is getting weaker and weaker.>Moon: "Farewell, veteran duelists">The tightening of regulations on handtraps is crap.>Farewell, veteran hand traps>Link and Xyz are banned again, what a shame for mage>If they continue to regulate things this strictly, I can understand the recent deflationary trend.>What on earth is going on with the moon ban?!>I'm looking forward to the re-release of Fuwaros-chan's deformed version>I totally agree with the pre prep hit against mitsurugi>Preparations for the ritual?! >Was the environment really so restrictive that it required such strict regulations?>Other than the false accusation of moon, it's very reasonable list>General purpose is limited :( Grave digging and multiplication c>Ash has been doing side jumps all her life>Malice is impossible to build, and Yammy is pretty bad too...>Will that one C be banned at last?>I bought a Tactical Tri Deck, but I can't duel right away!>Moon: "What is this?">Cyberse gets what he deserves!>They're restricting handtraps too>No matter how you look at it, moon is innocent! Ban requiem, the root of all evil.>Banning mages was a good decision>If they eliminate so many generic cards, it will become a different game>There are too many old guys out there now>the environment is likely to become even more stable
>>550947968>Malice is impossible to builddishonest japniggerMD Maliss got more hits than that and they are still tearing MD apart
still not enough
>>550947968why the fuck are they complaining about good hits
The funniest thing that could happen is Maliss is still meta and they have to ban White Binder too
>>550947968>>Konami: "Buy the new Galaxy Eyes lol"How does this list mean that
>herald livedBROOOOO
>>550948171You can look at MD where Maliss get limited Dormouse, limited Cat, limited field spell, banned Ransom and still dunk on everything
I'm concerned mitsurugi basically got away with murder, but I guess they slaughtered the yummy side so maybe it's ok...
Do you guys think the TCG will follow MD/OCG and ban Red Ransom or will they go for a White Binder ban in contrast
that's fucking crazy, it's STILL not enough! Astrograph should not be semi limited now just 1 is enough for that fucking deck!
>>550948171if master duel is anything to go by, yes maliss would still be meta, the only maliss hit prior to this in the ocg is limited dormousepicrel is what master duel maliss looks like, and it's stronger than dracotail currently
>>550948259No you can’t because that’s Bo1
people claiming snatchy to 1 isn't a big deal just makes me wonder if you niggas actually play this game
>>550948179new galaxy eyes specials kuriphoton which makes requiem
My time has come...
>>550948327>if master duel is anything to go bymaliss is already much weaker to bo3 siding
>>550948306>semi limitedAstrograph is freed at 3 though
>>550946884Once they ban maxx C what does the tcg have left that is better?
>>550948269>Yummy hits>an ED limit>1 main deck name limited>Obedience School bannedYou and I must have very different interpretations of a slaughter
>>550948269This is Mitsu's first banlist since release, Konami doesn't give out direct hits that early.
>>550948337how does bo1 change anything in this case, the only side deck card that works against maliss is lancea, and it's almost a waste to run it just for maliss
>>550948402it is kinda funny that the roach ban is literally the only thing TCG has going for itonce they don't have that and they realize they're paying more money for lower quality cards with censored art and ruined names in a meme format it might all be over
>>550948373bro no good fusions are level 7
>>550948179you can use any xyz monster to make cherub into galaxy-eyes to search galactikuriboh which makes requiem
>>550946884Number 41 dood, wat nou?>toad backawesome
>>550948402the 7 years of experience of dueling in an environment without Maxx C
>>550948485Kashtira is good enough.
>>550948402>falling for itthey're putting it back at 3 next list dumbass
>>550948483*activates Branded Expulsion targeting Gimmick Puppet Nightmare**chainblocks with Sanctifire to dodge Called By**Normal Summons Barrier Statue**Special Summons Mjolniir onto your field*
>>550948485Huh?
>>550947968Stop taking away my ace monster!
>>550947968>The age of sharks has arrived! >This could seriously lead to a massacre of casual players...is this okay?>The most shitty regulations we've seen in recent years.>Radiant and Sky Striker are unharmed, so will they be promoted to tier 1 since their rivals have been weakened?>Don't forgive the Demonsmith who pinned the blame on moon-chan>Shifter-san is lucky enough to escape regulation>Depending on the environment, could the increase in C be relaxed in about a year? >Congratulations on your complete recovery, R-ACE. I hope you'll get some new items>Why did they reduce Ash's number?>Welcome back, toadally!!>A brutally large-scale revision of M∀LICE.>Rather than banning unrelated people who just happen to have the right race and attributes, let's get rid of the Demonsmith itself.>mutation!?!?>so what will the player who goes second do from now on...?>Thank you God for the revision>The top themes are heavily restricted and we're suffering from a fair amount of hand traps>Konami: "If we put a woman in a high-leg swimsuit between Yusaku and Ai, it would sell well lol. So we should ban mages lol.">I'm afraid they'll soon make stupid revisions like banning Baroness Savage overseas>The branded is untouched, so this will make it easier to fuse the brand>C should be banned, but I want more of the Marchami series>Give me back Mage What else is this revision? Ahhhhh>Will Metamorphose be seen in serious environments depending on the deck?>Will calming down hand traps mean that old-school fan decks won't be flustered at the start? Yay!>I'm glad Mage died>Droll will be hit too someday>Banning mages is too painful>The ritual dimension is crying>It's really funny that they're restricting things other than branding>This way, both jacks and predatory plants can enter the environment.>Mutations are no good, I don't like plagiarizing other people's theme aces.>A few months later, Yu-Gi-Oh! 3.0 begins, banning Multiplying C and Called by/crossout
>>550948413*looks at kashtira*mmhm
>>550948623the TCG that is
>>550948623You said the same thing when they semi-limited it last year only for them to limit it now
>Ash to 2what did they mean by this
TICK TOCK HANDTRAPTRANNIESYOU'RE TIME IS UP!
Ash to 2 is deranged
>>550948676She still has CHADsmith
>>550947727Onomat is always looking for better cards because onomat is a terrible deck.
>impulse and ash hitdoesn't this buff branded/branded dracotail?
can you use the new odd eyes and starving venom to make zarc?
the 5-head gremlin had it coming
>We want out players to degenerate into eternal turns with their opponents completely incapable of stopping it
Are OCG players seriously asking what they're supposed to do with 3 different Mulcharmies and Ash to 2, Called By/Crossout to 1?
>>550948710>>550948767ash is toxic. try playing a go second variant of your deck and you will see how much of a menace it is
>>550948679Are there any people defending the moon hit like some retards did in the tcg?
DAY OF THE BUG SPRAY SOON THE ROACH WILL BE COMPLETELY KILLED IN EVERY FORMAT
>>550948767it's not new
>>550948327MD maliss has splash, splash got fucked in ocg
>>550948847Play trap cards buddy or just don't summon from that zone.
>>550948880Ash is not toxic in a mulcharmy/maxx c world
>>550946993it just trying to make yummy less tolerance on making error/backup game plans, but yeah not going to hit if player plays well, like malice still being a high tier 1 right now in OCG region.
>>550948897its a good hit
Wow, with this extensive of a murderlist, the format will finally evolve from its CRBR/JUSH-dominated metagame into a format in which Branded Dracotail, MitsuYummy, and Maliss are the top contenders and also I guess one or two of the new decks might pop up
>>550948676I'm just glad they didn't take fiendsmith away from us vaalbros, even if the chance of that happening was low
>>550948767Joshua is saying that it's a good thing and that one for one handtraps need to go
>>550948847isn't there a shortage of charmies in the ocg? i heard they got no reprints, must be part of the reason why those retards are so pissed at maxx c getting limited
>>550948897If the goal is to make Demonsmith less omnipresent, that's the obvious hit.
Every handtrap that you can activate going first is toxic. >Teehee I veiler you with a negate up I cancerous and I am tired of pretending otherwise.
>>550949026so nothing changes? lol ocg was already in branded draco meta
>>550949080They are Rare, basically guaranteed 1 in every box
>>550948928i think the deck is unhit enough in the ocg for the splash mage ban to not matter in the slightest.we know that the cyberse sloppa hits don't matter from the tcg, maliss is such a disgusting deck and cyberse is a disgusting type, they need to butcher it dragon ruler style
>Branded unhit and Dracotail only getting more names limited>MitsuYummy still alive>Maliss probably still aliveSo isn't this just a repeat of last format except maybe Radiant Typhoon or something will be slightly more dominant
>>550948453Meows
>>550947632>ss kashtira>metamorphosis>the last warrior from another planet
The TCG should unban Bahamut
>>550949134Blame Troonsei and 5D’s era for introducing this shit.
does OCG do anything addressing the searchable floodgates issue made by mitsu r4nk and branded?
>Bug =Squished>Blossom = Wilted>Called = Hung Up>Impulse = Controlled>Judgement = Guilty
>>550949134honestly you are right, stacking handtraps on top of a board is part of the reason why going first is so busted and why maliss was such a disgraceful deckthey should ban all of those
radiant typhoon is a menace now
>>550949080Fuwa is dumb price rn for a R. It's like 1.5k ish yen per. Idk what's taking them reprinting fuwa and puru. SP too, typhon to a lesser extent. And it's not like there's any reprint sets are coming up, and LOCH/R certainly ain't reprinting staples
Don't get uppity, Brandedcucks
>>550949426no lmao"This week, surely, we won't discover another kafkaesque insanity that is considered normal in the OCG" says increasingly nervous TCG player 11th time this year
We're 1 Maxx C away from verifying OCG deck building skills.You always had that excuse of Maxx C warping the metagame and that's why they played what they did.
man getting hit by the bug is going to feel so shit after this list lol
what's stopping them from remaking more of the old handtraps to add that the first turn player can't use them on first turn
>>550949134Yup, all handtraps should have heavier requirements.
>>550949768Did you forget how first turn players use Maxx C on 2nd turn?
>>550949768statusquofags
>>550949519Actually now that I think of it, I guess 2026 tactical try decks will now reprint fuwa instead of C. I guess that's what they're waiting for... Hopefully
>roach to 1dude just fucking kill that shitty bugit ain't that hard
Tick tock, Malisstroons...the TCG banlist comes.
>>550948485>Kash is level 7>dragon ruler is level 7>summon it>handtrap-bait it>thrust it>Metamorphosis>nuke it into a monster floodgate>turn endunless Metamorphosis has some sort of erratum something like requiring target match all level, attribute and type, otherwise it's a fucking bad idea
>>550949965They're waiting for all the fishermen locals to get their copies of fuwaloos.
>>550949768>Skip the BP the turn you activate this card
>>550949845well maxx c was already remade they just need to kill that last 1 later
Bros...
>>550949786>wynn was kushidakek, imagine psycho wynn, who will be our ayanokoji
>metamorphasis lol fucking OCG>ash to 2>maxx c to 1is there a world that ash can get ban?
>>550950275>1 of those is immediately unplayable
>>550950275Someone needs to edit that Kaiba panel to have him destroy Ash Blossom apart
>metaah yes the unsearchable 1of shit won't do anything last warrior is a meme
>>550950310It's pretty unlikely, at least not until design philosophies further shift, which is slowly happening (think going second your cards do a little more like ketu dracotail things). I think roach is only a matter of time though, once us OCG players experience the sackiness calls will come to finally put it dead
MD will probably follow suit. I was skeptical before, but I can see them axing the bug from both formats before worlds next year.
>Astrograph at 3>SKD Starving Venom at 3>Electrumite at 1Jewrome... Please...
>>550950473But what if I thrust for it and I have my diabellstar conveniently on the field ;)
Okay but what if we just banned Last Warrior
>>550949219Pure Branded has had minimal success, so it depends on how good Draco branded will be
>>550950587who the fuck still plays diabell?it ain't 2024 anymore
>Impulse to 2they still need to redeem the overframes you bloody bitch bastard do not BAN you benchod
Maybe big welcome will finally resolve now.
>>550946884>preparation instead of direct Mitsurugi hitNIGGER
These hits can't come to MD soon enough.
>>550950637I'd rather we ban every card until we have a format where Last Warrior is reasonably playable and fair.
>>550950879cheatsual niggers btfo
>>550950879OCG is not TCGThey won't hit Mitsurugi just 3 months after release
>Does the going second player have any rights in this TCG??>In the end, these idiots finally understands that banning cockroaches is the best environment>What do you want to achieve by accelerating the going first game?>Doesn't this make going first stronger?>If they were to completely kill C, they might actually start a massive purge>You want to play Yu-Gi-Oh without handtraps???>The only explanation for ash is that it stops branded fusion>What kind of cards can you bring out with metamorphosis?>My long-time spirit animal friend Baguska has passed away.>[Sad news] Marchami Fuwaros, 3,000 yen each>Hit maxx C if you want but please reprint the marchami>I wonder if they're planning to release new powerful cards to play second in the new pack. >Enough with Paraisos, give me back Fenrir>The preparation restriction means that the new Mitsurugi must be very strong, right? >The called by is reasonable, but I feel like it would be tougher if you were going second. >I think it's a bad idea to make beginner-level constructed decks unusable in less than a year.>Why Ash? Do you want to reduce hand traps so much?>Don't torture insects anymore>If you release Marchami C, it's fine to ban multiplying C>The C/Ash restriction makes it even tougher for players who go second.>If you're going to ban mages, give me back Ransom>Is it time for Kuriphoton to be thrown into a coffin?>Are people who don't know about the existence of the mitsurugi in hibernation?>The only thing I don't understand is Ash!>If you're going to regulate C, print the Marchami style C.>The prices of Fuwaros on market sites are ridiculous lol!>Please tell me how the preprep hit came about!>I feel sorry for those who bought stamp edition of those handtraps>I guess ash and C will disappear soon>It's fine to just ban C and called by right now, right?>What did Ignister do?! What did Code Talker do?! What did Marineses do?!>I don't understand hitting ash at all, I get the others but not ash
the TCG should do it as well
>>550951043LEAVE SELECTRICE'S HUSBAND ALONE
>>550951098she cheated on him with the engraver bitch so she needs to be punished
>>550947632Metamorphosis is basically free im Genesys and nobody plays it. It's just fundamentally outdated.
>Maliss actual bansNice>Moon banned instead of RequiemMental illness, but it barely matters at this point>DracotailUntil you limit/ban Faimena or Altharion it literally doesn't matter. They will recover>Yummy limits, specially Snatchy BASEDBASEDBASED>Toad unbanLole, it shouldn't have been banned for that long but ok>Maxx C limitedBAN IT ALREADY>Ash to 2Unhinged, deranged hit>Impulse to 2Insane card, should be banned or at least limited>no Mitsurugi hitsCringe and gay>Arc Light still legalOMEGA basedA single copy of Maxx C is unironically what keeps the OCG banlist being worse than the TCG
>>550951098Engraver is still legal?
ash is just as cancerous as the roach/called duo I don't get why they're so pissed about the hit
>>550951285>Mental illness, but it barely matters at this pointI don't understand why the concept of leaving the archetype alive without being accessible by everything upsets some spergs so much
>>550951319maxx c is literally game warping, ash is just annoying + any relevant deck can play through it
Game is better without generic handtraps, nmt and amc showed that first
>>550951319its the roach brainrot their perception of gameplay is warped>heavily rely on the most broken card ever printed>think that the remaining game should be on the same level of broken
Arc Light is beyond broken. It only stayed legal for so long because nobody summoned the damn thing.
>>550951509Fiendsmith is explicitly just an engine rather than any sort of actual deck.Also>Rank 3>Rank 4>Synchro 5
Ash does nothing to meta decks while killing rogue as hard as it canCard shouldn't exist anymore
>>550951657>>Rank 3>>Rank 4>>Synchro 5And you're pretending these things are as accessible as a generic material link 2?
>>550951692Ash helps meta decks because it stop charmies.
>>550951536Ash warps the game by making any deck that can't play through it unviable and necessity having multiple searchers or cards being design to specifically get around ash. It's the problem with a lot of handtraps, they completely gatekeep decks for zero cost.
We did it bros, now Fiendsmith is only retardedly obscenely generic, rather than exceptionally retardedly obscenely genericAlso really rather curious as to why Fiendsmithtards thinking that being unable to print a type/attribute combination for generic ED monsters is good card design
>>550951021A good chunk of Japs still can't fathom going 2nd without the bug, do these fuckers just scoop when they don't draw the bug going 2nd? Also crying about ash going 2nd being harder. If ash is your only hand trap going 2nd, all it does is annoy the opponent and now you have to contest board with smaller hand.
>>550951810*think that
>>550951810Who gives a shit about Engraver in a world where Habakiri gives you everything you could ever ask for and more?
Always fun when the two most represented card types (Links, Xyzs) on the forbidden section get even more hits. Really makes you think.
>>550951865It's hilarious to imagine some of them only play this game so they can activate Maxx C going second.
>>550950557All this power yet still can't make an endboard and I doubt that whatever support comes from the two limit over collections next year will change that
They should print Droll but for Special Summons from the Deck
>>550951874Why is Luffy there twice?
>>550951874>Boruto instead of Naruto
>>550949479The current Maliss board is not even that strong in terms of number of interruptions when you think about it, it's just heavily layered, but since they draw 4 cards in their combo (or more with Allure) they always have Ash + Impulse + Imperm next to it.
Starting to think the OCG might just be very bad at Yugioh
>>550951987by the year 2040 I expect we'll finally have a deck worthy of seeing play in the year 2025 pendbros
dragonlink is so bad that even eclipse wyvern at 3 is still a nothingburger
>>550952086Why would they put Boruto's dad on it? That would be random as shit, they don't put Solomon on it to represent Yugioh
>>550951874>"Sorry we don't have room for your favourite manga, we need to include the third Goku"Also why is deadpool there?
>>550952139"Why did they let a deck that can Self Droll itself to stop Maxx C and draws 4-6 throughout its combo to dig for it live for 10 months unhit again"
So which decks gonna use metamorphosis?
If you are Pendulum, Xyz or Links you can fuck all the way off according to konami's eyes Only Synchro and Fusion are allowed to be bullshit and Synchrofags need to shut the hell up about losing Brion and Salvage you motherfuckers don't understand our pain! Meanwhile Fusionfags are the most entitled bastards ever alays asking for more always always alay fucking ALWYAS meanwhile Ritualfags are just beaten dogs hoping master doesn't remember they exist
>>550951941both are splashable generic engines that deserves to gutted into unplayability mitsu is just too new
>2019 endymion was the last time a pendulum deck was tier 1
>>550952362>complain about generic engines>make the engine less generic through the moon ban>complain even harder
>>550951941Konami clearly care enough to ban moon.
>>550951865Ash is an actually good handtrap against Dracotail, which is the best deck in OCG. You can beat a Dracotail player with one Ash and a decent engine hand.
>>550952153maybe they will always be worse but at least they're getting acclimated like a goldfish being put into a better tank
>>550952430all they had to do was to ban engraver moon is a non hit
>>550951874Why is Alear there?Why is Kurosenseni there Assclass has been over for yearsWhy is Ichigo there Bleach has also been over for years Why is Allen there Why is Gon thereThis picture makes no sense
>>550952331>Meanwhile Fusionfags are the most entitled bastards ever alays asking for more always always alay fucking ALWYASAnd we WILL do it again, losers
>>550952521this isn't a TCG list they try to avoid murdering entire archetypes just because they upset you
IT'S HIS TIME HOLY FUARK
is mululu the right hit though?
>>550952602It's the next best hit after faimena
>>550952531>Why is Kurosenseni there Assclass has been over for yearsnew movie soon>Why is Ichigo there Bleach has also been over for yearsanime still going
>>550951692Ash was a mistake of a card which should have never existed in the first place. >Ash has totally powercreeped +0 search spells and thus even powercreeped nearly every deck released before 2012 >Ash is the reason why so many cards have to set or place from the deck now >Ash is the reason why decks had to evolve to have several starters because she could end a turn by herself Ash is even objectively worse of a powercreep card than Chaos Emperor Dragon in 2004. She has broken the game on a mechanical level and forced it to adapt around her and she is still allowed to exist unbanned because she is ironically a bandaid to the problem she created.
>>550952667hope they don't hit faimena ever losing the turn 0 play just makes the deck more boring
>>550952602No.Dracotail has white Albaz engine which results in Cartesia + a set Fallen & VirtuousIt's basically a love tap
>>550952581Like Ryzeal?
where is the mitsu hit?>pre-prepwhy do other ritual decks have to suffer for mitsu's sins?
>>550952669New movie? why? The story ending was pretty clear cut they killed him. the whole point of the story was to figure out how to kill him and they did
>>550952362But what if we just gave every new shitty deck some crippling xenolock instead, thereby meaning only the good shilled decks (and maybe some shitty deck stragglers we forgot to xenolock) get to use those engines, at the low low cost of further ensuring long, eternal formats of pushed decks and endless droughts in the interim of mediocre products while the playerbase has to wait for next shilled product
>>550952331*fusion from deck*HehNothing personnel, kid.
ash is essentially extra copies of called against charmiesban them fucking all
kek
Looks like Yu-Gi-Oh is really dying since they hit Maxx C.Not looking good guys.
Now that the dust has settled is it time to bring Maxx "C" back to 3?
>>550952581But the TCG hit moon too and they still had to limit lacrima as well because moon is a retarded hit.
>>550952839The movie just adapts the unanimated chapters. It's weird but I think they'll be treating it as a flashback sequence from Nagisa in the present time maybe.
>>550952859Is this a same VA thing?
>>550952725F&V is gonna end up on the list eventually, maybe third quarter 2026 once they offload enough chronicles decks and I think no one disagrees, it's too retarded at 3 generically
>>550952725Mululu is arguably the best name in the deck because it's both a starter and a premium fusion material, which no other card in the deck is. You are comparing different cards.
KEK mst is going to smoke the meta along with Rei and brandedtails
>>550952965>and they still had to limit lacrima as wellAnon Lacrima was BANNED before that, that wasn't a hit it was an unhit
>>550952815Konami always kills the canary in the coal mine, comically so.
>>550952667wouldn't it be faimena -> rahu?
I've never really got why people so potently clittyleak over 1 for 1 handtraps like Ash desu, especially when said 1 for 1 handtraps are rapidly getting worse by the minuteMight as well start bitching about how Veiler and Imperm means decks have to do their effects outside the field or cards that dodge targeted removal except that's significantly more problematic than what Ash supposedly gets up to
>>550952883All that's left is the game going coomer with the alt arts of all the waifus in bikinis. Once we get that we know the game really is in its swan song.
>>550952691they made ash cover way too much ground which is why she's a problemif she only were draw handtrap she would be completely finestopping adding, foolishing and summoning from deck is just way too much for just 1 card
>>550952958kek
bad b8
>>550952993no agumon just looks like that gagagigo nigga
Lol people trying to pretend that Ash is somehow still broken, you are braindead unplayersStrongest thing Ash does right now is negate Charmies, which is the only reason to consider hitting it (and a good reason)As a handtrap it's pretty good against Dracotail and mediocre against everything else
>>550952375>2019 Endymion>tier 1LmaoIt was tier 2-3 AT BEST and that's being very generous
>>550953109Veiler and Impermanence do not touch drawing, searching, e-tele or milling. Ash hits all of these effects which means sue can shut down loads of cards in the game. Even Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity and Painful Choice are useless in front of Ash.
What can yummy do against a single unicorn now?
>>550953336>Strongest thing Ash does right now is negate Charmies, which is the only reason to consider hitting it (and a good reason)Mulcharmies shouldn't even exist, specially Fuwa
>>550953434Retard
did no one notice THAT THE STARS ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE
IT'S NOT FAIR BAGOOSAK BROS
>>550949465Kek.
>>550953491amazing argument there
>>550952691This sort of argument probably goes hard if you're retarded>ASH POWERCREEPS PRE-ARC V DECKYou mean the decks they printed back before they knew what HOPTs were? And in fact actively exploit the everloving shit of their lack of non-HOPTs as part of their bread and butter combo?>IF ASH DIDN'T EXIST SETTING FROM DECK WOULDN'T EXISTAlso plays around Droll. Also, how exactly does the alternate timeline in which Ash not existing meaning setting from Deck exists in a lower capacity change things? How does "I ADD THE MALISS TRAP TO MY HAND" change the powercreep game?Also, really rather curious as to why these tards never bring up cards that dodge targeted negation, which exists in a substantially larger capacity than cards that set from Deck
>>550953539they'll probably fix that in the actual printed version
>>550953434>JUST LET ME FTK YOUUUUUkys
>>550953617You didn't make an argument. You just said "they shouldn't exist (because I'm a tranny)"
>>550953719konami loves hitting ftksthey were very fast last time with catapult turtle
>>550953063And now every new light fiend is a potential problem because moon is a clown hit. It's like banning tuners to keep halq around.
OH MY HECK THEY ACTUALLY HIT ASHHOLY FUCK I NEVER THOUGHT THEY'D FINALLY TAKE THAT WHORE OUT BACK
>>550953380Ash doesn't touch Maliss White Rabbit, or Dormouse, or White Binder. In fact decks like Dracotail, Yummy, Mitsu, Maliss, etc try to dodge or make Imperm/Veiler entirely irrelevant. Hell, the existence of midpoint extenders could be argued as a power creep mechanism against such handtraps, since unlike Ash, Veiler and Imperm aren't HOPT
>>550953839black catbat ftks have always been legal in the ocg
>yeah we know the stars look like absolute shit in the full art cards, that's why we're making you pay for a higher rarity that fixes that problem
>they will tell you that this isn't a problem
I'M COMIN
>>550954016This still looks shit though. They should just move them alongside the attribute and name on a different spot where they don't clash with the art.
>Ummm no you see uhhh actually every Yummy card having an effect to dodge Imperm/Veiler is fine unlike Ash because uhhhhhhhhhhhI would respect someone that calls for "TOTAL HANDTRAP DEATH" more than a disingenous fag that tries to argue that ermmmm only Ash le frigging accelerates the powercreep of the game BUT NOT VEILER OR IMPERM THOUGH
>>550954063I still think about that anon that told me years ago Droll is shit because it lets the opponent commit to a play before going live
>>550954007if it isn't hit that just means that isn't consistent enough or sees much play at all so its not really a problem
>>550953635>>ASH POWERCREEPS PRE-ARC V DECKIf you think this isn't a problem, you don't understand why the game is doing so badly. This current toxic game environment was absolutely unthinkable prior to Arc-V and yet we're in a world where powercreep has gotten so bad that even antique FTK decks and full power GOAT/Chaos Control wouldn't stand a chance. Imagine telling a boomer that Yata lock is fully legal again and nobody plays it.>muh Droll false equivalency This is most pathetic excuse Ashfags have made. Droll still demands at least 1 search goes through before it locks and it doesn't do anything to stop mills or summons from the deck. Ash hits all 3 of these mechanics.
>>550954063the only problems here are fuwalos and maxx c
Duelist CupJoshua 40kJesse 47kMagu6o 44k
Poor one out for all the dog shit ritual pet decks that had to tank pre prep hits.
>>550954265WIND UPSHANDRIPPEDFOR FOURINFERNITIES USED TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE A 17 DAY LONG LOOP THAT PSI BLOCKED EVERY CARD IN THE GAMESIX FUCKING SAMURAIYOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGEEEEEERRRRRRRR
>>550954234Context matters, maybe back then decks didnt need to search as much
can you metamorph habakiri into dragoon
>>550954278Joshua climbed up?
lolhttps://litter.catbox.moe/l9la8zbpbnszt1xc.mp4
>>550954278Josh recovered? That's kinda cool
Hilarious to me this guy thinks Droll blanking every other search < Ash stopping one Deck interactionThis nigga plays Branded for sure
>>550953109>Veiler and Imperm means decks have to do their effects outside the field or cards that dodgeThat's why they are fine, they're limited to monster effects on the field and you have counter play in dodging. You're only real option with ash is chain blocking and she can counter cards activated from anyway.
>>550954234Some decks from around 2017 did not need more than 1 search. Zoodiac in theory eats Droll's dick, but all you need is 1 Broadbull search to still do your bullshit (and bull wound up limited quickly anyways). And even after SPYRAL made Droll mandatory, the card did not fuck every deck in the meta. Could you fuck Raye with Droll? Absolutely, now try to do that vs Altergeist or Gouki and watch in horror as Gouki could still shit out an extra link under droll.
>>550954278>Maguro didn't choke in the 20k range this timeNeat
Droll only became a problem because the game needed to be designed around ash
>>550954063That's not a problem, that's the glue holding the game together.Modern Yugioh is practically unwinnable going 2nd even with those cards.If not for these cards, the game might as well be decided by a coin toss.
>>550954593>retard now immediately pivots to how Maliss and Yummy dodging targeted negation is totally okay and not a sign of powercreep BUT OH LAWDY DA FRIGGING HOPT ASH POWERCREEP
IT'S OUR TURN OGRE CHADS
>>550954489yummy sisters... snatchy bros... are we... hated?
>>550954439Yeh
Yummy died for mitsu sins
>>550954704>Modern Yugioh is practically unwinnable going 2nd even with those cards.I'd argue YGO was never winnable going second at any point in this game's lifespan. GOAT format just has the player going first rape your hand with either DDuo or Dustshoot and play accordingly with his counter traps after. Now imagine trying to go second vs prime time DAD decks.
>>550954704>That's not a problemyes it isthe modern game is just a compare starting hands to win
>>550954770Ngl I always liked ogre. She's not that crazy but can really do some damage to field spells or continuous spells
haha they aren't planning on printing MORE hand braps to replace ash now that she's getting axed right???
>>550954814Nobody plays Yummy Mitsu in the OCG
>every Yummy double soul charging and dodging if you dare try to Imperm themThis is based. This is epic. This is wholesome non-powercreep. You could put this deck in 2012 format and it wouldn't be out of place actually>deck summons second guy after first one gets AshedAHHHH THE POWERCREEP OH LAWDY THE POWERCREEP
>>550954715>Strawmaning this hard
Sky Sisters did the banlist save us?
>>550955016>uhh Ash frigging causes cards to SET from DECK. This is powercreep, this is broken.>uhh Yummy double soul charging to dodge Imperm? This is WHOLESOME NON POWERCREEP. This is COUNTERPLAY. This is based boomerkino. GOAT decks would be evenly matched against this.
>>550954960There's still enough attribute combos to asspull a new Dominus trap such as a Chaos Dominus that locks you into DARK/LIGHT's only
>>550954942Ogre is only specifically useful in those two cases + continuous traps. Her ability to blow up monsters is mostly irrelevant when she still lets those effects goes through. I will still sideboard her because she's clutch in certain matchups.
>>550955025they should have murdered his BF too
>>550952531Alear is there because of the Engage manga adaptation that is still ongoing
>>550955180Ogre not targeting has saved my ass a few times.
>>550954830Going 2nd in goat format is far far easier than modern yugioh. Sure you are at a disadvantage but it certainly doesn't feel as unwinnable as modern yugioh. Even then its almost entirely due to those two cards (and going first drawing). Modern yugioh issues with going 2nd being awful are much more fundamental in my opinion.
>White Rabbit setting from Deck a trap that can get Ashed instead of adding it from Deck first.The PINNACLE and the CAUSE of RAMPANT POWERCREEP.>Every Maliss trap dodging targeting negation. Every Yummy double soul-charging dodging targeting negation. Vanquish Soul bouncing. 50 GY effect activations off Tearlaments. Konami's continual printing of cards that dodge targeting negation.Not powercreep.
>>550952590>Summon this>Crash into anything>Destroy it without activatingBROKEN
handtraps are only a problem because how compact archetypes areyou wouldn't have 15 handtrap decks if archetypes required you to run 30-35 mandatory cards
>>550955576Call it being cynical, i see no difference between getting OTK'd next turn and being at a -4 card disadvantage by turn 3, either way both options optimally end with scooping and going to game 2.
>>550955165>"Defending imperm and criticizing ash means you think Yummy and Malice are fair and balanced decks!!!">"NO IM NOT STRAWMANNING"Fuck off retard.
>>550953881Ash likes those two fingers huh
that's stopping ftks if ash get's banned....
>>550955746MY HERO
>>550952581>ynr Tenpai
>>550955689>if archetypes required you to run 30-35 mandatory cardsIf Lunalight taught me something, is that you absolutely CAN run a lot of handtraps on such a thick engine. Back during Lunalight trolling people with azathot, deck still required a thick 25 cards engine and some garnets, but that only meant going over 40 Main deck cards to fit in 12 staples or more.Hell, one reason Lunalight is not slopping up engines is because Dominus Impulse is THAT GOOD of a card that you can ignore Fiendsmith's bum ass or K9 or all that jazz.
>>550955714I'd be interested in seeing actual winrates comparing going 2nd in different formats than just blanket statements pretending it's always been as bad as it is now.
>>550955723>nigger flat out goes "ERM ACTUALLY DODGING NEGATION ISN'T POWERCREEP, IT'S FINE IF YOU TRIGGER 50 GY EFFECTS AND HAVE 3 CARDS THAT DODGE TARGETING REMOVAL">clittyleaks because he gets ruthlessly mocked for his retarded and selective thoughtsHave you considered that you're just retarded, Ash is a dogshit 1 for 1 handtrap card whose function is to stop Mulcharmies at this point. Your constant defense for shit like Droll or how "dodging targeting removal isn't powercreep you guis" indicates your resentment is solely due to your petdeck dying to Ash but not specifically Droll or Imperm, ignoring that other petdecks certainly die to those two but not Ash
FIRST WE BAN ALL THE LIGHT FIEND MONSTASTHEN WE BAN ALL THE ALBAZ CARDS
>>550955929lunalight is a bad examplethere's a lot thats cuttable unlike memento which has so many mandatory cards
>>550953724Nice projection bro
Droll is a cute fluffy bunny BOY and not a shitass dog child with a stratospherical forehead or a swarm of cockroaches piled up behind the furniture, i'd rather the game revolve around his ass.
ReminderThis shit search generic spell
>>550955746Imagine the sex.
>>550954593>That's why they are fine, they're limited to monster effects on the field and you have counter play in dodging.>>550952691>Ash is the reason why so many cards have to set or place from the deck nowAn excerpt of the thoughts from the clinically retarded.>inb4 "UM VEILER THE STARTER END THE TURN DOESN'T COUNT BUT ASH THE STARTER END THE TURN DOES"
>>550956121Even Memento could compress itself hard enough to fit in 3 ash 3 droll 3 imperm 3 fuwaros, 12 handtraps are not hard to fit in and the only decks that slot in more than 12 handtraps are just autopilot stuff like how Invoker or Zoodiac used to cram in 30 STAPLES, but that shit's just excessive stuff.
>>550955248Oh yeah, last time I even heard about it was when they adapted this scene
XYZ BROS #RISEUP WE CAN'T LET THEM OPRESS US
>>550956209hnnng, Brainwashed mindbroken corrupted flesh teenager dolls that let it all happen without complaints and without issues, just a blank soulless smile while their brains can only process pleasure and desire to breed.
>freed toad>fat bastard took his placebros....
>>550956145>Roach >/dng/: gurrr he's le evil>Roach bunniboi>/dng/: me with the bestie :)
>>550955746Fusion Parasite full archtype when.
Droll causes such seethe because you can use it going 1st to supplement your board.We need a Mulcharmy version of droll that can only be used if you control no cards.
>>550956481They're 12Yikes....
Ash was already turnskipping lower tier and rogue decks and in a format with Maxx C legal meant it was in every deck, but the fact that they increasingly spent the last two years printing new archetypes that could set cards directly from deck dodging Ash probably made some nips irate lol.
>>550956539Droll doesn't say i can't special summon without issues, 1 search is better than 1 special summon as far as restrictions go.
>dng says ove rframa is BAD>single handedly revives the generalThis place reallysucks doesn't it
Progress on edopro card adding?
>>550953850>And now every new light fiend is a potential problemNo it isn'tYou're acting like its impossible not to print a generic Link 2 LIGHT Fiend
>>550956726its just that rush is trash nothing to do with overframes
>Make a new card game (Rush Duel)>Don't export it to the rest of the worldWhat is this strategy called?
>>550956812Do you enjoy being wrong all the time??
>>550956768They said they are not adding overframe cards
>they made Mitsurugi Ritual TRIBUTE from Deck so you can't Ash it, clearly a sign of powercreep due to Ash>so what would change if Ash didn't exist>uhhhhhhhhh now they Mitsurugi Ritual and you still can't respond to it save for ImpulseWow, looks like the game is saved then
>>550955997Ash is "dogshit" because of crazy powercreep you retard. You're being a complete hypocrite by saying anyone that defends imperm thinks yummy and Malice is a-ok, but not applying the same retarded strawman logic to yourself when saying "Ash is a dogshit "1 for 1". Btw I never defended droll, there are multiple people ITT that have disagreed with you and you would have noticed that if you weren't in the middle of a seething trannie meltdown for no reason.
>>550955143Wait the next support
>look at ULSP>Almost everything in it has gotten new support>See vaalmonica invitareBros, is vaal getting new support...? It's too soon after varar right....
>>550956795I'm saying its awful game design.
>>550957014The Mitsu player couldn't have ashed your Mulcharmy if she didn't exist :)
>>550957021>That's why they are fine, they're limited to monster effects on the field and you have counter play in dodging.>they're limited to monster effects on the field>you have counter play in dodgingBased retard thinks Tearlaments activating 30 effects in the GY isn't powercreep but OH LAWDY DON'T YOU DARE ASH HIS FRIGGING WAR ZONE
>>550956929>What is this strategy called?Focusing on the Japanese domestic market.
>>550956958I mean the cards by themselves, not the visuals
>>550957180Just play unchained like a real man.
>>550957198Wow, sounds to me like the argument should be "Ash functions as Called By for Mulcharmies" rather than "WAH WAH MY SHITTY DECK CAN'T PLAY AGAINST SPECIFICALLY ASH SHE FRIGGIN POWERCREEPS THE GAME (but not 50 dodge or GY effects because of NOPT Veiler doe)"
>>550957252If that was the case, they wouldn't have made the Speed Duel flop, instead of constantly chasing nostalgia how about bringing something new instead?
>>550957428Why yes I do have yama and sharvara in my vaal list
Sure this time Ro_G will draw Red Ransom being fucked by all banned ugly bastards just like he did with Kitkallos and Apollousa
>>550957227>thinks Tearlaments activating 30 effects in the GY isn't powercreepAre you able to make a single post without resorting to strawmanning?
bagooska the stinky man
>>550957543>not running the blue dog aka the brick of the unchained clanYou monster
>>550957602I want you to think really slowly as to why Heavy Borgar, TFaTV, Fymena, Mululu, Caesar Valius, Maliss traps, SP, every fucking Yummy ED name, every effect that activates in hand or GY, Prayers, etc might be more of a problem than White Rabbit setting a trap. And said traps being Ashable.
>>550957554Hopefully he draws Red Ransom being fuck by Kitkallos and Apollousa
So moon has been sent to jail in the ocg could this be a sign that decks that used her a lot are getting support soon.
>>550946884>Eclipse Wyvern to 3Damn so it really didn't so anything in OCGland? Can't wait for the TCG to follow suit.
>branded got an overframe>skysissies didn'tNow that the dust has finally settled, I think even the most ardent Sky Sister can finally admit that Branded has replaced Raye as the face of "game original" archetypes/content.You had a good run, but it's time to let go.
>>550951305He only cares about her shoulder demon.
>White Binder sold her twin sister TWICENever trust the White Queen...
>>550958050>TCG>Unbanning anything ever
>>550957950>every effect that activates in hand or GYyou mean like ash?
>>550957950>Heavy BorgarGood point actually, this card is lowkey ridiculous but the rest of the deck overshadows it, yeah bro just have a Heatsoul in your main deck on command to complement your board.
>umm why are you bringing up shit like Tears and Maliss and Yummy in my argument about how Ash frigging powercrept Yugioh by setting cards from deck!Probably because Maliss and Yummy are significantly more relevant than Argostars and R-Ace, and the "every trap dodges targeted negation" is significantly more important than setting from the deck>UHH BUT DRACOTAILIf you think Dracotail is benefitting off of setting their spells where they can then be susceptible to removal and not infinitely prefer the option to add or set in a world without Ash you're retarded
>>550958459I'm not even the one you're arguing with but okay.
>>550958056We don't know the full set yet
>>550958504See?Still living wellThey have to ban the field spell nextand then MTP-07and then White Binderand then Transcodeand then Firewall againHell, ban Bystial while they’re at it
>>550958504>ocg maliss is so unhit that they don't even play 3 march hare, they have access to too many good names to fit a 3rd oneKILL MALISS KILL MALISS KILL MALISSSSSSSSSS
>>550958504White Rabbit and March Hare to 1
some of these look really good
>you will live to see white binder and red ransom banned in every single formatWhitepill.
>>550959053if they ban white binder the deck is dead, you can put every other maliss card to 3 and the deck is still unplayable
Maliss did nothing wrong
>>550959149DUDE IF THEY BAN SPLASH MAGE THE DECK IS DEADDUDE IF THEY LIMIT X THE DECK IS DEADNo more Maliss pilpul
>>550959149you niggers say this about literally every maliss hit, and curious enough it never happens.banning white binder and red randsom wouldn't kill the deck
Clear signs that the game is dying and Konami is trying to save the rapidly sinking ship>Full art cards>Alternative format>Maxx C hit>Increasingly more tranime waifusWhat am I missing?
>Maliss is dead. For real this time! You don't have to hit it any-Tick. Tock. Nigger.
I have a question, if solid vision technology on the level of Arc-V to Duel Monsters ever happened IRL ould you still duel or would you give it up? I'd give it up, the meta fans would be pushed out for a bunch of aging chunni retards who'd do a bunch of cringe summoning chants and hand movement and attack and effect names no thanks
>>550959149>if they ban white binder the deck is deadHence why it should be banned
>>550959497>VTuber shillingStill not non-Konami Franchise crossover THAT'S ACTUALLY POPULAR
>>550959865Depends, is there a pain setting? Some of the seasons has the cards deal actual physical damage.
>>550959865>the meta fans would be pushed out for a bunch of aging chunni retards who'd do a bunch of cringe summoning chants and hand movement and attack and effect names no thanks>metafags and paypigs would get filtered by people who actually love the gameHow is this a bad thing?
>>550959865>the meta fans would be pushed outAnd this is a bad thing because....?
Does Metamorphosis have an errata? Why would they release this obviously broken card from the banlist?
>>550960487it's cute maybe even endearing seeing little kids and teenager do it, seeing 40 plus doing that is cringe and wrong.
>>550958958Purge does look good, but Impulse is inexcusable
Look at her doing a hat-trick with the TCG banlist too
/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 16JOIN:https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1Here's how this works:>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page>a single round will be held each week>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 3 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification>Matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week>you are allowed to change decks between rounds>you can do Genesys (or any other format of dueling) instead of Advanced TCG if both players can agree on the terms. The Top 4 finals in January will still be Advanced TCG only, however.>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week>report scores via DMsCHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINEThis means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case.https://discord.gg/9Ykm5TbTROUND 16 MATCHUPS:>Maelstrom vs Common [COMPLETED]>Da vs Unplayer [COMPLETED]>Lynex vs Nyx>Lacooda vs C3>Pork vs SeftonLIVE TABLE:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m0eeC_NUZxyedKHA-QtjPHvY0ItHGgdCHxRObS-Qz7M/edit?usp=sharing
Brokenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AML2V9f5Pt8
>>550960717>people enjoying their hobbies is cringe and wrong
>>550960790Impulse probably significantly struggles from the posing, which is why some people thought it looked like genderbender as opposed to what it actually was in a water elemental calling a dragon like with the other Dominus cards
Which Numbers are important? I only know about 1-through-4, 39, 46, 62, 96, 99, 100 and 101-through-107
>>550961460all of them
>>550948343>>550948486I'm not following. How do you make requiem?
>>55096146015
Does Red Ransom + Splash actually kill the deck or is it still gonna be meta like in MD?
>>550961949You need to ban White Binder
Next year at this time they'll finally take the last step and do Maxx "C" to 0, Ash to 1.
So the idea is to summon all possible Synchro Dragon omni-negates, synchro climb with all of them and then summon new Crimson Dragon.>Crystal Wing>Dis PaterWhat else?
remember when /dng/ said moon wouldn't get hit and that the fiendsmith engine was irrelevant?
>>550947156>>550952590>>550955618Time to print Clay Guardian.
She cute
Remember when Malisstroons were insistent that they'd dodge another banlist because of the collector's box
>>550962186>Abyss>Savage (although any deck capable of this probably can't summon links)>Blazar>Sifr>Ultimate Spirit>Crystal Clear Wing>Crystal Clear Wing Over>Areadbhair>Shooting Majestic
>ash bad because it only gets played to stop maxx c and mulcharmy >this is somehow ash's fault and not maxx c and mulcharmy >"handtraps should resolve">but not if its maxx c >mulcharmy ok though>keeps combo in check>makes going second betterFunny how all the maxx c haters use the same pro-maxx c arguments for mulcharmy.
Is anyone else kinda tired of seeing the word ''negate'' on everything?
>>550961073Seeing Yusei without his criminal mark is weirdNow then, how fucked would Paradox be if he had to fight Yugi, Judai, Yusei again with their modern support kits?
>Astrograph finally at 3Why it took so fucking long?Shit could had been unhit 5 years ago and nothing would change.
>>550962642All their arguments boil down to "it's okay if I'm benefiting from it".
>>550962642wow anon you're rightthere is literally not one single difference between maxx c and the charmiesthey have identical card text
>>550959497Crossover setNot just one off card or promos cards in event a full set that the main focus is the crossover cards
>>550962642>mulcharmy ok thoughNo one with a brain says this
>>550963958Deserved. I hope they hit Maliss more
Can someone explain the Maliss hate?All I see is same sort of slop that has existed in the game for last 10 years. How is it any different from Yummy slop?
Goddamn it, this looks too good
>>550963958finally justice is served
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/138872507 - My POV when i am turned into "Fairy Prince"
>>550964185the cyberse type being just a generic pile is a disgrace to the game
Honest thoughts on Metamorphosis' return in the OCG?
Heavenly Odd-Eyes can search some cards that a Pendulum deck would want to search.>Harmonizing Magician>Odd-Eyes Persona>Odd-Eyes Revolution>Majesty PegasusAnd some others that you might want to search depending on what you're playing.>Gate Zero>Monkeyboard>Pendulum Sorcerer>Double Iris Magician>Odd-Eyes Synchron>Odd-Eyes Seer>Couplet the Melodious Songstress>SHS Prodigy WakaushiThe issue, of course, is that any deck that plans on Summoning Beyond the Pendulum would rather do that than use this card. Since *some* decks can use Pendulum Evolution to Pendsummon twice, you could summon Beyond for the first one and use Heavenly Odd-Eyes for the second. But it's a wishy-washy solution.I hope Konami makes a new Link-2 for Pendulums, one that works with Odd-Eyes and Magicians specifically.
Is that a cybersesloppile deck? That LINKSPAMS? And they're WOMEN? Oh my computer science degree and blahaj, this is epic
>>550964454habakiri into dragoon
>>550963060Maxx c and fuwalos functionality do the same thing. They're both turn skip floodgate cards that stop you from special summoning. Because certain decks can specifically play around fuwalos does not make it ok. That's like saying that maxx c is fine because certain decks can play around it. They provide the same experience. Only the other two are more fine due to having more niche effects.
cyberse being a pile is why they are never printing the remaining vrains archetypeslink arrows will never happen
>>550964185Because cyberse is uber generic and they have ton of shit that search and summon right away.People complain about pends being able to search everything but decks want stick to archetype cards much as possible.
>>550960654it's doing nothing in genesys so they probably figured it's fine
Imagine if they made a Cyberse Pendulum deck for the most troongroided slop pile in history
>cybersepile: >:O>dragonpile: :DDD
>>550964456Can it search pendulum witch? How well does it work with heavenly starve venom? like is odd eyes vemon dragon viable to summon now?when you say gate zero or gate zero magician? Finally I think you'll get 2 more Yuya cards in the protagonist pack but don't hold me on that, I just don't see why that pack isn't just the protagonists of the series instead of them and their friend group then again Yuto and Yugo's dragons could be in the rivals pack rather than the protagonist pack if that happens were yuto and yugo ever considered rivals with yuya even through they never crossed swords in the show?
>>550964454>UnsearchableWon't do anything.>But Thrust!Would have to wait a turn going first, would use it for something else going second.>But Alembertian!Gonna have to convince on what a deck that uses so many Level 4s would do with Metamorphosis.
>>550964945Pends want pends to do pend stuff.
>>550964982Each archetype in Dragonpile has its own identity which is a lot more than what could be said for Cybersepile>dis one linkspams>dis one also linkspams>dis one linkspams but has archetypal xyzs you go into>dis one linkspams but also gets every banish support card limited
Kinda dumb because ED space isn't exactly plentiful, if World Chalice Guardragon wasn't a "must first be fusion summoned or special summoned by" you could also run it as a super poly target
>>550965287Dragon link is link spam yes
>3x Junk Meister >3x Full Speed>3x Sonic Warrior>3x Stardust SynchronYusei now has at least 12 cards that enable one card Speeder.
>>550964265>ManamoonEnjoy waiting for years for it to ship
>>550965618You forgot Synchro Fellows
>>550965896>>550965618Somehow deck will still brick.
>>550965136Yeah it does. It search a lot of crap actually, quite impressive, but pend lock is retarded because decks need link for hand fixing and extend.At least scale pop itself. But real problem is lack of board presence.
>>550951810>Also really rather curious as to why Fiendsmithtards thinking that being unable to print a type/attribute combination for generic ED monsters is good card designWhy does your Dark Reptile deck need to access specifically a Light Fiend from the Extra Deck?
>>550965136>Can it search pendulum witch?Yes. I didn't mention her because she's a bad card.>How well does it work with heavenly starve venom? like is odd eyes vemon dragon viable to summon now?Most Pendulum decks don't do genuine Fusions; they do contact fusion or cheat out Odd-Eyes Vortex.But if you're playing an Odd-Eyes deck, Heavenly Odd-Eyes does make it easier, since it's an on-demand destruction of an Odd-Eyes card to trigger Arc Pendulum to summon Dissolver, which can then go into Heavenly Starving Venom which can then go into Odd-Eyes Venom. Doesn't even matter what you search.
ngl I was expecting solemn to go to 1they gave it a warning shot first I guess
>Rapid Warrior>Turret Warrior>Sonic Warrior>Dash Warrior>Speed Warrior>Salvage WarriorHow many of the shitty main deck Warriors did Yusei have again
Wow I didn’t think Ash would get hit.
>>550966132>actually the solution to Mermaid is simply banning every single other ED Knightmare card>actually the solution to Fiendsmith is to ban every single generic ED Light Fiend and never print a generic ED monster with that type/attribute combination ever again because of a design mistakeOkay retard
So where is Level Eater retrain?
>>550964265Why do people at locals threaten to kick your ass if you bring any waifu merch?
>>550966264Yusei archetypes Junk, synchron, Stardust and "Warriors"
>>550965826that's the goddamn part, yesnot worth the wait
>>550964982Dragons are Yugioh's best quality.
>>550966626Patriots desu.
>>550966626>Why do people at locals threaten to kick your ass if you bring any waifu merch?No one goes to locals it's just kids who will try and get your cards sticky/bent and traders trying to con you out of cards.
>>550966143Odd eyes fusion suck massive dick and pendulum fusion don't have enough targets or good ones that matter.Pendulum ruler is kinda decent but still don't worth a brick.
2026 is going to be such a good year for YGO
>>550966447You didn't answer my question
>>550967131What exactly is Closed Moon doing without Requiem legal?
>>550967102It would be if pokebros don't peak their head into this. After that komoney just needs to attempt another way to board new players
>>550966786Only military servicemen are patriots.>>550966798The only people who go to my locals are 25+ yr old men.
>>550967371You didn't answer my question
>>550967413>After that komoney just needs to attempt another way to board new playersHow so? They already make good new cards cheap enough for anyone with a job to buy, what else can they do?
>>550967414>25+ yr old menIsn't Yugioh supposed to be a children's card game?
>>550967592no?
>>550946884>nips FINALLY getting tired of le buge of balance>Metamorphosis unbannedNIGGA WHAT!?
>>550967559a new anime to attract people + commercials and viral videos
>>550967507>what would a Dark Reptile deck be doing if they accessed a LIGHT Fiend from the EDWithout Requiem legal? Probably nothing. Also you do know that Mitsurugi can still bridge into Fiendsmith even with no Closed Moon right
Broken.
>>550967592since when? I started this game when I was 13 back in 2002 and I was mentally an adult back then.
Worthy or unworthy successor to Supernova Dragon?
>>550967704Cool card but you'll only summon it like 1 out of every 20 or so games.
>>550967559A game mode that uses the cards but they don't play yugioh with them just like how commander is not a game of magic.
>>550967893
Super Hyper Accel Quasar Blazar Stardust Over Top Dragon>1 Synchro Tuner Monster + 5 non-Tuner Synchro Monsters
>>550967809So then its not a big deal if they can't print a generic type ever again.
>>550967893It's a great effect, but the opportunity cost seems high. It really depends on what you can bring out alongside it.
>>550968098How many type/attribute combinations are there in Yugioh?I'm sure the game will survive without a generic LIGHT Fiend Link 2
>>550966143New cards mostly benefit zarc side of things, including new predaplant fusion as it helps to dump crap on GY.yuya.dek as whole changed very little, still suffer with lack of proper board building and ED.
>>550968098What an obscenely retarded sentiment.I really can't imagine going "Konami can't print this type/attribute combination and WHY THAT'S A GOOD THING" and not thinking that's abhorrently bad design or profoundly retarded
>try genesys again after months >its STILL just radiant typhoon runick spamwhat the fuck are they doing?
>>550968496Why does your deck need generic access to one?
>>550946884>handtraptrannies when they only get to play 18 handtraps instead of 20>also ignoring the fact that Called by got hit as well
>>550968496>I really can't imagine going "Konami can't print this type/attribute combination and WHY THAT'S A GOOD THING" and not thinking that's abhorrently bad design or profoundly retardedThey haven't been able to print any kind of generic spellcaster searcher because of Exodia since literally day 1 and it hasn't done any kind of damage at all.
>ash blossom to 2HAHAHAHAHAH TAKE THAT NIGGERS I HOPE IT WILL HAPPEN THE SAME FOR TCG
>can't play crossout anymore because they'd have to banish their own single roach to negate itkekthe day crossout/ttt/cbtg/ash are all banned is the day this game can heal
>>550968767Most of us here are hoping it gets banned soon. A couple of years ago 99% of people here defended Ash as necessary but time had to pass for these folks to see the light.
>>550968927Nah, I don't want turn 1 to get stronger
>>550968631It is quite literally irrelevant what anyone needs Closed Moon for, retard. Random monsters that literally don't do anything shouldn't be banned for obviously problem cards like Fiendsmith, which is why they had to limit both Engraver and Tract and it's still a problem.I really can't imagine being this disingenous of a tard to argue that "Link-1 that e-teles and warps an entire type/attribute's card design" is more of a problem that the do-nothing Link 2. Closed Moon in a world without Fiendsmith does nothing. Fiendsmith in a world without Closed Moon is a retarded generic engine.
his own archerype soon!
>>550969149Alright....Turn 0 it is.
>>550969179Nah, Fiendsmith is fine. Every deck just shouldn't have generic access to it.
>>550968743>ExodiaYou mean the infamous design mistake? Why would you post an example of poorly designed cards warping design space around their existence to try and prove something
>>550969179>Random monsters that literally don't do anything shouldn't be banned for obviously problem cards like FiendsmithWhy do you retards act like Moon was some innocent generic victim that just happened to get swept up in the Fiendsmith craze?They released at the same time, Moon was designed explicitly and specifically as a Fiendsmith bridge. Is the only thing you're upset about the fact that she doesn't have the word "fiendsmith" in her name?
>>550969205And anime too!
Guy that bitches about every deck getting Fiendsmith access but starts crying the moment you suggest killing the engine entirely instead of trying to walk around the issue of obviously retardedly hypersplashable engines
>>550964454Baroness/Chengying/Hyperion into Exterio
You apes already tried a format with no handtraps and it was hell on Earth, thinking the game is going to get better without Ash is nonsense only said by people salty they don't get to win 100% of the time going firsst.
>>550969149If Ash and Called disappear that means Mulcharmies will resolve more often
>>550969358and the correct solution to making sure that doesn't happen is banning the card that gives any deck access to it just by controlling any monster with a certain type/attribute combination. not by banning a glorfied vanilla for the crime of having a type/attribute combination.
>>550969563Why do you want to kill the engine?
>>550969394>the literal most iconic thing in the entire Yugioh franchise is a design mistakeAt some point anon you are gonna have to accept that you simply do not like this game on a fundamental level.
swap ransom for binder and moon for requiem and it becomes a 9/10 list
>>550969651Because he personally hates it.
>>550947968>>If they eliminate so many generic cards, it will become a different gametrue, wdt?
>>550969617No, Requiem is fine. Moon giving every deck access to it is not.
>>550969452Tell me what formatwarping thing Closed Moon would be doing with no Fiendsmith legal.It's a card that does nothing retard, that's why it's retarded Konami banned it over Requiem. Imagine thinking every other Knightmare was the problem over Mermaid
Romin VA birthday
>>550969780If it does nothing then why do you want it legal?
>>550969813is beheneko good?
>>550969813Happy birthday to the VA of the 2nd hottest yugioh girl of all time.
>>550969179My FUARKING hero
>>550969882>why do you want the actual problem for problem combos and will continue to be a problem that actively warps design space to be hit over literal do nothing cardsTruly boggles the mind.
Cursed Moon is bonkers as a means to access the fiendsmith engine, that cannot be denied and justifies her ban.But only to a certain extent, there's a plentiful amount of very accessible LIGHT Fiends (exciton knight and that one rank 3 chibi with a trombone) so ask yourselves this, would you go ahead and keep banning stupid shit-tier LIGHT Fiends instead of croaking Requiem?
>>550969780People actually used Knightmares though. No one would use Moon otherwise.So let people use Fiendsmith.
first, we ban all light fiends
>>550969882because a card that does nothing being banned instead of the single most broken link 1 in the game's history is retarded.
>>550969980Kotorifag or Riofag?
>>550970163Then we ban all the tuners?
>>550970019You haven't explaining why every deck needs generic access to ever type/attribute combo
If Konami printed a Link 2 with no effect text, generic mats, and was a LIGHT Fiend, Fiendsmith niggers would be chomping at the bit about how this literal effectless monster needs to be banned which should really tell you all you need to know that "banning literal effectless monsters" is seriously a consideration for them
Unban halq so we can abuse light fiend tuners
>>550970203Yuamu-stan
>>550970019Neither Requiem nor Fiendsmith are problems.
>>550970339Delulu
>>550970339
>>550970085the problem with this logic is that it not only assumes thst there's never going to be another generic light fiend link 2, but demands it. it's not only punishing a glorified vanilla in place of the obvious problem card, but punishing an entire type/attribute combination in place of the card.
>>550970085Because just by banning Moon they thinned the splashability by a ton. They don't want to kill the deck, just wanted to limit the possibility.
>>550969813not yugioh or dng related
>>550970189>because a card that does nothingBut it does do something. It makes Requiem from two generic bodies. That's its intended purpose and that "effect" is the only problematic part of fiendsmith.
Closed Moon unironically got banned because the banlist team is racist, isn't that fucked up
>>550970482It's a real shame shes wasted on rush i would love to see her get a real deck in the ocg.
27 years old.
>card banned only because it has a specific type/attribute>people defending such banlol what the actual fuck
>>550970581THE ADS ANON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>550970535Damn that's crazy, could you tell me what part of the effect text in Closed Moon where it reads "LINK SUMMONS FIENDSMITH REQUIEM FROM DECK" I seem to have missed it
>>550970673You aren't explaining why every deck needs generic access to every type/attribute in the game.
>>550970746>what part of the effect text in Closed MoonThe part where it says LIGHT and the part where it says FIEND
We've went from 24/7 Malissfag kvetching to 24/7 Fiendsmithfag kvetching (because their petdeck sux balls and needs the crutch), very epic.
>>550968927Metatrannies can't fathom that there was a time in this game's history where handtraps weren't prevalent or were side deck material at best.
>No I have never used Moon's effect one single time in my life>No I wouldn't play Moon in a single deck if Requiem was banned>Anyway I'm FURIOUS that she's gone!!!!Can't tell if genuine retards or just bait. Nobody can be this dishonest in real life.
>People here want Ash bannedSo, people here just hate playing the game
if you want to argue that moon is the problem card you also have to argue that steam the cloak was the problem card.
2026 shaping up to be the worst year this game has ever had
>>550971013true. konami is making bad decision and we'll have 0 meta decks and every good cards will be on the banlist
>>550971013doing worse than 2018 is a hard task
everyone that defend the moon ban is a subhuman fiendsmithsloper
>>550970085Ban could lead to a slippery slope but I doubt it. R3 and R4 already have strong options to go into, moon was strong because you could use extra bodies you wouldnt be able to use for anything worthwhile
>>550970929>Can't tell if genuine retards or just bait. Nobody can be this dishonest in real life.this but for your post. a card being banned for something other than its effect should never happen.
>No MR news.
>>550971258Konami wants to kill the game. No other obvious reason why they're so timid to shake up the game.
>>550970929>I dislike the Fiendsmith engine>I dislike retarded problem cards dodging the banlist>I dislike retarded problem cards that warp design space around them>I dislike scapegoat bansErgo, my mentally handicapped friend, I dislike banning Closed Moon as a scapegoat ban for Fiendsmith, which will continue to be a problem, will continue to warp design space around LIGHT Fiends, and will still be a generic splashable engine. I do not care if no one uses Closed Moon, banned cards should always be banned for their effects and not inane retarded groid shit like "WELL SOME RETARDED OBSCENE CARD USES ITS STAT COMBINATION". Under no fucking circumstances should "Ban this literally effectless monster to balance for a fucking Link 1" be even a thought that crosses people's mind
https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVoWDbn3
>>550971258yeah it sucks
I swear every single time there's an OCG banlist they hit an archetype and a bunch of TCGfags have a complete meltdown that they didn't permaban it instead.
>>550971258Why are you expecting MR news? We're in the middle of OCG series 13.
I remember when they revealed moon ,/dng/ was saying it was shit, lmao WRONG
>>550971360Neither Requiem nor Fiendsmith are problems.>>550971491Moon was revealed before Fiendsmith though wasn't it?
>>550971210Youre arguing like every card on the banlist is judged in a vacuum when thats almost never the case
requiem apologists are comparable to union carrier apologists from the old daysthey would simply refuse to aknowledge that maybe that card shouldn't exist as it is
>>550970085>there's a plentiful amount of very accessible LIGHT Fiends (exciton knight and that one rank 3 chibi with a trombone)There is a huge world of difference between 2 level 3/4 monsters and ANY 2 monsters.
any OCG players here, wdt of the banlist?
who is even playing fiendsmith in ocg right now? I saw a few yummy lists (which a moon ban does cut them off of) but it doesnt seem to even be the most popular version
>we've traded Malissfags constantly whining for Fiendsmithfags constantly whiningImprovement or downgrade?
>>550971730Elevennote
>>550971564>revealed before fiendsmithI don't. 'member
>>550971360>I dislike retarded problem cards that warp design space around themYes, it certainly is an absolute crime that Water Aqua and Earth Dinosaur decks can never again go into a generic Light Fiend.
>>550971753why would "fiendsmithfags" be whining when they won? all the people who actually like fiendsmith seem pretty happy that moon is gone I'm gonna keep playing it in muskets/goblins anyway and you fags can cry about it
>>550971765At least they stil have armades
What rank 4 do you even play if Bagooska is banned?
>>550970941Try throwing it out when you're going second against meta decks, see how much she helps with that.
>>550971918Exciton into requiem
Trannies hate him for being too straight.
bagooska coming next in TCG
>>550972071Bagooska and Red Ransom are banned in OCG and Master DuelSeems to be a directive.
>>550972250Good. Total Maliss death.
>>550972250Imagine if the TCG does a White Binder ban to be contrarian
helloo dng!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>550966143>Yes. I didn't mention her because she's a bad card.She clears scales how is she a bad card in a format where scale clutter is real?
>inb4 roach to 2 in april and then unlimited in july
>>550972515henlo :3
>>550971669its ok
>>550971345>Konami kills the game on purpose >The YGO license is revoked from them after decades and given to another companyWhat’s the worst that could happen?
>>550973112skill cards
>>550973112wotc buys it and the new MC is a black nonbinary lesbian
>people are complaining about fiendsmith when it barely sees play anymore and mitsurigi is basically a better version of itsure dudekonami only banned moon to force people to buy the new cards
>>550969358>generic negate engine is fine. >Every deck just shouldn't have generic access to it.Kill yourself retard
>>550973691>OH MY SCIENCE IS THAT ONE NEGATE FOR A CARD ON THE FIEND ONLY
>>550973393It's funny because there are so many alternatives. It's more a suggestion if anything.
>>550971998you must really hate palying the game
>>550973743>for fiend onlybased retard
>>550973691The reality is that Fiendsmith is already outdated and is only used as a coping mechanism by bad decks who can't even catch up while using it, the only reason you want it banned is because you personally hate it.
>>550972591>Search with odd eyes>Can't normal to get another scale>Search odd eyes via beyond>Can't use scale effectYeah electrumite but still retarded. Witch is not even a magician card.
>>550973743>IT'S JUST DOUBLE IMPULSE OR UNTARGETABLE NONTARGETING NEGATION + FOLLOW UP EVERY TURN
>>550973743>>550973869field* my bad a negate that doesn't hit nib is a nothingburger
>>550973956You mean it's fucking garbage?
stop pretending you want to play moon in your deck
Enneacraft-Atori.ma fixedFusion2 Ennecraft monstersMust first be special summoned in face-down position by shuffling the above cards you control into the deck.Flip-flip face-up or face-down one other monster on the fieldWhen your opponent activates a card or effect on the field(Quick effect) you can flip this card face-up and negate the effect. That's all the support I need from Blazing dominion please Konami
>>550974225Fuck you, I was totally going use her effect to link summon something
>>550973973Caesar. Are you retarded?
