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>>550996507
how do you crouch in this game?

anything going on? im bored

>>550996610
You crouch irl

>>550996727
>>550996610
You can also use the right control stick, and change the setting between a gradual crouch or a set stand/crouch height.

>>550996634
Might have a browse around VKet, haven't seen everything yet. A bit too tired for any gaming tonight.

Starting to suspect the ‘just play VR games’ people are only saying this because they are anti social cunts

>>550998237
What are you on about?

>>550998237
I'm a schizoid and get no inherent enjoyment from social activities, so yeah, playing a game is infinitely preferable to doing nothing in VRchat for hundreds of hours.

>>550998237
In their defense, we are using the anti social cunt website.

>>550998237
wow the unsociable and hostile shitposters are anti-social? how did you come to that conclusion

>>550998237
Have you tried playing vr games?

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>>550999013
>make post with VR gameplay of me killing the NEET in a VRFPS game where the goal is to kill your opponents to advance the objective

>this is anti-social

>>550999691
>literally can't post without shitting on someone who has never done anything wrong to him
obsessed

>>551000008
They both love the attention.

>>551000008
He is subjected to S's posts all day which are fucking terrible though.

>>550998237
Bullshit. Most of the games we play here are co-op

>>550999691
If you dont see difference between posting vr gameplay and attacking the player personally under a pretext "Im just posting vr gameplay" thennyou are either a nigger or trolling.

>>551001472
He is both.

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singleplayer VR games

Got half life alyx, re4vr, and the vr winter humble bundle, enjoying re4, waiting for longer cable to arrive for pc before fully diving into alyx.

>>551002235
>wet cardboard sword
It's ass. Hands only was pretty fun in gorn 1 though.

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>>550989187
Another one for the books

>>550980890
That's clearly a pickle. You'll be fine

re4 is much scarier in vr

>>551003132
It all comes back to nothing...

>>551003636
I already hate horror in flat and any semblance of it in VR physically repels me from continuing. I was scared to approach a dead body in Metro VR because I wasn't certain it wouldn't grab me

>>551003636
What's the way to play that? Do I need a shitload of mods for the pc version or is the quest version the way to go?

>posting a person killing another person in VR is now harassment
https://nypost.com/2022/02/01/mom-opens-up-about-being-virtually-gang-raped-in-metaverse/
not long until you start calling it literal rape

>>551004526
Quest version

>>551004660
Published Feb. 1, 2022

>>551004660
You are extremely disingenuous.

>>551004660
You're retarded, stop posting now

>>551004294
The only vr "horror" game ive played is ITR.
At first it was a little scary, then i got a sawn off shotgun and anything scary i could just drown out with the sound of BANG and all stress is gone.
And then i got to the later zones with some enemies and they started circling around me to jumpscare me from behind.

>>551004660
can you go back to posting discord screenshots like the childish ape you are?

>>551004294
That's cute. I've also been filtered by some real baby stuff in VR. Spooky sounds really get to me, as well as cheap jumpscares. I can only advance if I peek out of my headset to break immersion.

anyone have a link to the vrg song used in the soccer matches

>>551004294
>scared to approach a dead body in Metro VR because I wasn't certain it wouldn't grab me
God I want vr dead space with full body tracking so fucking bad.

>>551004526
playing the quest version, oh man at the wolf part it's just standing there with glowing eyes in 3d very scary, I know what's coming.

>>550998237
not really, if anything people here are too normal and sociable, more than i expected, except the ones that frequent stuff like hangout VRChat instances, stay away from them

>>551004660
Keep posting VR game webms chief. They're fun stuff

>>551004660
sheeit there's niggas raping me too

>>551005542
Which one? Was it the song made by Grommet for christmas? If so this should be it

(Grommet) christmaspreview1 - 2020
https://files.catbox.moe/jygfbf.mp3

if it was the other one made by Onion then this should be it

(Scrambled Onion) Christmas_in_vrg - 2018
https://files.catbox.moe/613zqs.mp3

>>551006773
Thanks anon I really appreciated it.

>>551004935
>>551005039
>>551005395
play vr games
https://streamable.com/zwb8ic

>>551007360
be a better person

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>>551007623
play vr games

>>551007360
I never got why people call the people who kill them in shootyman games pussies. Like if it were real wouldn't you want to use dishonorable strats to survive?

hi anons, i currently am on a quest 3, thinking of getting the steam frame when it's out. does it sound like a reasonable upgrade?

>>551007623
The stuff yelled at by randos that video are worse than whatever he allegedly does to sQQuare, and thats just usual FPS banter. Simmer down, it's harmless

>>551008161
absolutely not

>>551008161
upgrade? no not really. kind of a sidegrade. it will at least be more comfortable to wear.

For me, it's VRoid.

more vr games
https://streamable.com/0e9qzc

>>551008406
You seem to be unaware that he's been seething about him non-stop for months, if not over a year at this point, and did the same thing for at least two other people in the past. Every time I heard him speak in that game it was just him complaining about something S was doing.

>>551009791
Even his “target of affection” Sqq is fine and having fun with it.
Can you try to not get offended for others for once in your life Karen?

>>551009791
Seething would be posting in the thread and being impotent and unable to take action with your rage. At least he's making his own entertainment (and mine, to be honest. I don't tire of virtual death) with his emotions.

>>551009791
did you lewd with []? Is that why you're so protective of him?

>>551008495
why not? would you say it's a sidegrade instead?

i mainly wanted to get it for the fact that i need a working pc and vr headset and i''m on the go somewhat often
so if it could double for me as a pc on which i can code AND test things in vr it would be great
that saying my question was mostly regarding the quality and features for vr gaming itself

is tanki still on for tonight or should I host illegal mahjong

>>551013004
host forefront

>>551012161
What kind of coding? At the end of the day that thing is still a phone cpu, you are not running anything heavy on it.
Plus the resolution won't be comfortable enough for using as a monitor replacement, you have a quest 3 already, try it out with virtual desktop, believe me, I am currently using my quest 3 to play clair obscure in a floating screen and getting the sweet spot between screen size and fitting it all in view is always a struggle, usable but not really my first choice.
Just use that money for a laptop if you need to move around constantly.

>>551012161
I was making a low quality joke but I'll answer for real.
It mostly depends on the price at this point. How much do you expect to sell your Q3 for? I think $200. As for the Frame, I believe it will cost $600-$800. If you're rich then maybe it doesn't matter.
Do you value eye tracking at all? I think at some point they will release an attachment that allows for FT as well.
I don't fully understand your needs so I can't say if it would be an upgrade or side grade to you. Coding in VR sounds awful. What benefit do you get with it being a VR headset over just buying a laptop with that extra money. You can probably get a decent laptop for $300 these days. Using a vr headset as a PC with a mouse and keyboard seems like a fun gimmick novelty option but I can't imagine it being a core reason to get a new headset.
Foveated rendering seems amazing. That is the most innovative leap we've seen in VR in a long time.
P.S. I'm also on a Q3
For me, I would consider the frame an upgrade but I wouldn't buy it unless I'm spending less than $500 overall.

I will be getting a Frame as an upgrade over my Index

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>>551013681
i do gamedev in unity, so it would need to handle the editor with low tri meshes and rider in the background for coding
the issue with a laptop is that it takes space and i travel with economic airlines, if i could fit a shitty PC within my headset it'd be ideal.

>>551013690
i wouldn't sell the q3, i'd rather just give it to my girlfriend who also loves vr and she's on a q3s.
i'm assuming the frame will cost 800 usd, which is not bad for me, i have around 300 euro on my steam account from selling skins and so on + i can grab the frame as a company expense and get a tax write-off.
i value eye tracking quite a bit for vrchat and future testing for foveated rendering, but i could also achieve it with diy tracking like i did on my quest.

i'm also somewhat worried regarding the comfort of coding in this way but oh well, i don't want to overpay for a laptop i'd only use on trips AND i'd need to have space for in my backpack along a headset with which i travel with. flights are getting insanely ridiculous if you're carrying a lot of luggage.

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Thanks to everyone who came out to see santa last night! Here's an album of the pics:

https://imgur.com/a/HWKIiXX

>>551005994
Give Memoreum a try, it's the closest thing to Dead Space VR although it does play bit more like Doom 3.

>>551014568
>the issue with a laptop is that it takes space
what? a laptop takes way less space than a headset. not only that but if you're programming there is no way you wouldn't need to pack a keyboard too. were you really planning on programming with your wii remotes??

>>551014568
There is no way you can run rider on that thing, jetbrains IDEs already struggle on PCs with 16gb ram and you want to load unity with it?
Even so, give it a test with your quest 3, virtual desktop and a pc, it will be pretty much the same experience, possibly better than the frame due to its lack of color pass through plus meta's fancy camera magic.
Getting it for the eye tracking and to develop FOR it makes sense, but as a PC replacement I think you will be disappointed.
Maybe a mini pc would be better, but then, the frame plus a mini PC is as bulky as a laptop, more probably.

>>551013681
NTA but being able to develop VR games on real VR hard sounds fun. Meta's fork of Android is so halfassed that it is kind of impossible. None of the shockingly few art programs can export because there is no direct filesystem access, there is no proper DAW, and while the godot editor's been ported, it also runs in a sandboxed environment like everything else, so it's more of a novelty than something useful.

>>551015289
yeah that is the counterargument... a 150 dollar laptop will be far cheaper and similarly capable for light software development without the need for peripherals or wearing a brick on your face, so the above is more of a value-add for the Frame than a main use case I'd say. I believe the main selling point for the frame is access to the entire catalog of steam games, both flat and VR, rather than Zucc's walled garden.

>>551015289
>>551015558
i guess you're right, i'll see into some of the slimmer thinkpads and carry the headset with it
will say goodbye to a hoodie or two to fit it in
thanks!

>>551015797
developing for VR and non-VR stuff on a headset is very cool, in addition I use it with my slimes (replacing for fluxpose (already backed)) for mocap feels great!

on another note, the hardware looks amazing, even though you just made me realize it won't really run much stuff as much as i'd like it to.

godotgod wins again

I've said this before and I'll say it again. The main value of Frame running on linux is being able to watch movies/tv on an airplane in privacy. beyond that is gimmick/tinkering territory.

>>551014727
got caught looking at the wrong camera, it's so over for me

>*cough*
>unity: recompiling all shader variants, scripts, and re-importing every asset, iteration 1 of 8

>>551015797
>NTA but being able to develop VR games on real VR hard sounds fun. Meta's fork of Android is so halfassed that it is kind of impossible
Sure but anything you will run on the frame natively should be able to run on a quest with virtual desktop no? The only advantage there is the lack of needing a separate device.

>developing for VR and non-VR stuff on a headset is very cool, in addition I use it with my slimes (replacing for fluxpose (already backed)) for mocap feels great!
How viable is this? I want to get into solo gamedev and that was one of my plans, can you get half decent animations with it?

>>551016231
If the flat gaming experience and FEX emulation layer are good then I think there is a lot of value there, but nobody knows yet how good those things are actually going to be.

>>551016618
>developing for VR and non-VR stuff on a headset is very cool, in addition I use it with my slimes (replacing for fluxpose (already backed)) for mocap feels great!

it kind of sucks out of the box, you need to really properly calibrate everything and then clean it up (i recommend cascadeur)
if you want something that's more about finer movements then you need quite a few tries to get it right, which is the case for me because i make porn games.

>>551016549
yeah the frame would cook itself in the process too, you're right

>>551016618
>>551016103
I'm curious about mocap also. Getting VR trackers to work with things like Warudo is really easy, but I haven't found a workflow for non-live motion capture that actually works and don't know how motion capture is usually done "in the industry". I'm not a career game dev, but it's a fun hobby sometimes...

>>551017114
if you have slimes you can record animations directly in the slime software, export it into a .bvh file and retarget to your desired rig
if you have any other sort of tracking that works through steamvr you can use a few apps like MocapFusion or MocapForAll
if you want to do it the industry way then uhh... prepare yourself to shell out at least 3.5k-10k USD on one of those *proper* solutions. if you find a different, DIY way then please let me know
there is also a few ways that i didn't get to work, but maybe someone else would have more luck: you can route VMC (the protocol vtubers use nowadays) data directly into blender or unity using addons made by the japanese, but it's extremely wonky and can straight up not work.

>>551017778
thanks anon

>>551013004
i'm waiting for tanki rn
if we get nothing from the host, then I suppose we stay with illegal mahjong then

The only "hard" upgrade Frame brings over quest 3, is slight reduction of latency and compression artifacts thanks to foveated encoding.
Everything else is software things, which could be nice to have, but for pure PCVR gaming are completely irrelevant.

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>>550989187
There she blows! A hump like a snow-hill! It's Moby Dick!

>>551021019
the hard upgrade is not being zucked actually

>>551013004
>>551019234
not gonna tanki go for it

>>551021019
And the weight reduction, and the resolution, and the weight distribution, and the expansion slots, and the built-in storage, and the microSD storage, and the capacitive finger sensing, and the RMA support.

Probably forgetting a bunch else. "Hard" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there because the "soft" plus of not having to interact with Meta software cannot be understated.

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>>551021019
q3 comfort is ass dude

>>551021356
Yea, the only standalone hmd which is a "PC" and not a locked in console.

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YOSHAAAAAA MAHJONG

>>551021019
The point is that it isn't just a PCVR headset.

>>551021648
>resolution
lower and the lens will still better on q3
that optic stack is godtier and i dont believe valve can match it

>>551021648
Resolution (ppd) is slightly worse than quest 3, people even started seeing SDE again. FoV is slightly more than quest, and that explain it, screens do have almost the same resolution.

Allmosf all things you listed are kinda irrelevant to streamed PCVR gaming

>>551021862
>>551021920
The resolution is higher.

>>551022016
no

>>551022159
Show your math.

>>551021385
thx for the headsup

>>551013004
do you host, or should I?

>>551022204
They both have ~2100 pixels screens but Frame fov is higher. How can Frame have bigger ppd?

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illegal john johng in 5-10 min (booting up the game)

>>551022204
i have a q3 and a pico4 which has the exact same 2160x2160 panels and its fucking dogshit compared to q3

>>551016103
You're an Asteria VR dev aren't you

>>551022470
Why do you think I said PPD when I said resolution?
>They both have ~2100 pixels screens
Yeah, and one of those is higher.
>Frame fov is higher
Add that to the list.

>>551022517
I HAVENT FINISHED MY PIZZA AND SHOWERED AAAAAAA

>>551022542
I have pico 4 and the sharpness is very good, I do see some interpixel grid if I focus on it though. What do you mean "dogshit resolution"

>>551022716
PPD is the proper resolution metric of VR headsets nigger, its the measure of a smallest objects you can perceive in VR. How can Frame resolution be higher if the screens are basically the same but fov is higher? Pixels are litterally bigger visually, because the screen is stretched to a bigger field of view, you litterally have worse resolving power due to that.

>>551023045
I'm not sure you're familiar with what resolution means.

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very illegal jongers
https://vrch.at/a0dm5f53

>>551022835
the screendoor effect is omnipresent
it wasnt as much of an issue when i had no other frame of reference because i didnt know any better but now it is
thats not event counting edge 2 edge clarity and bad lens warping because lmao chinks
to go back to the point of q3 vs steam frame, i dont believe valve will be able to secure a lens supplier that can match meta's because they do not have the budget for it and more than that the q3 is an anomaly with how good the optic stack is

>>551023229
>https://vrch.at/a0dm5f53
omw, was making coffee and cleaning the dishes

>>551023105
I think you're retarded

>>551023045
Not that anon but resolution means resolution, PPD means PPD.
This should be very obvious.
Retard.

>>551024102
If you think "resolution" is only defined as "amount of pixels" you're completely wrong, especially if you look at complex optical systems, which VR HMDs are.

PPD is the only meaningfull resolution metric for vr headset. It litterally measures how sharp image is inside of the hmd, its informs you how small you can have text to be still readable in VR. And you need both FoV and amount of pixels in the screen to calculate it. Morever it usually is not constant and due to optical distortions and lens quality can vary in the middle of the lens and the edges, additionally being modified by the lens resolving power.

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Here you go Anons, the greatest VR and VR-Moddable games on Steam Winter Sale right now1

VR
Arken Age -50%
Bootstrap Island -30%
Dungeons of Eternity -40%
Ghost Town -40%
Half Life Alyx -70%
Of Lies and Rain -20%
The Midnight Walk -45%
Pistol Whip -50%
SUPERHOT VR -60%
The Talos Principle VR -85%
Until You Fall -55%
VEX MAGE -25%
Vertigo 2 (and DLC) -40%

Non-VR, moddable to VR
Antichamber -75%
Cyberpunk 2077 -65%
Doom Eternal -75%
Elden Ring -35%
Half Life 1 & 2 -80%
Lies of P -50%
Metal Gear Solid Delta -40%
Outer Wilds -40%
Scorn -75%
The Talos Principle 2 -70%

>>551024472
nta either, yes resolution IS the amount of total pixels in a given display which is PART of the equation of PPD and the other PART of the equation is FOV. you dunce.

>>551024472
We are not talking about "resolution", we are talking about resolution.
You absolute mongol retard 0 IQ monkey.
>>551025013
Sure. But if you are talking about resolution you are talking about resolution, if you are talking about PPD you are talking about PPD. Simple as.

>>551025394
>>551025315
PPD is a resolution metric retards. How hard it can be to understand that resoluion is not just "How many pixels are in a square". PPD is a resolutin metric of a display viewed in some visual size. Lines per mm is a resolution metric of a lens. Dots per inch is also a resolution metric of a display or a printed medium.

Resolution of a VR headset is best described by PPD. Just amount of pixels of a display of a vr headset can be quite misleading without FoV and PPD encampasses it all, giving you overall metric of image sharpness.

In the end frame is a sidegrade, basically the same as quest 3. But the biggest positive thing about it is a lack of shitty treatment of the user by the OS. Its an OS which you are the owner of, not some consolized closed garden which zucc can break any moment.

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Heard this guy spawning, span around and quickdrawed him. Had to give him a feint though, not just me failing to pull my gun, no never.

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>>551023229
GET THE FUCK ON I NEED 3 OPPS

>>551025208
Wait, metal gear solid has proper vr mod? Not ue injector garbage which you need to faff around and is unfinished garbage, but full no hassle, launch, have full vr controlls from start to finish vr gamemode?

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>>551026656
wrong webm woops

>>551025208
>Recomending cyberpunk vr
Bro

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Would anyone like a smoke?
You cant have one, they're all mine.

>>551026693
YATTA I GOT MY 3 OPPS

>>551027312
Love me some Binston when Im out in the radius.

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>>551027395
so proud of you.

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>>551021243
WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL

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>>551021243
That's not the wale on my mind

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>>551028565
this is 3 month difference if i can do it you can do it

>>551028421
holy kino

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>>551025208
Also these.

>>551025208
>Not recommending 7th guest, the best game of the 90s

Zoomer.

>>551029881
youll never be s real cuntry

>>551026960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI2kUXjCTo8

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>>551029881
>>551025208
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3384090/Plastic_Battlegrounds/
can't forgive you for forgetting this gem too

It's okay to have shit taste anons.
Just don't announce it to the whole world, embarassing.

>>551026693
did you get the closed sanshoku at the end?

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>>551023229
Absolutely brutal mahjongging fellow criminals. Good games.

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>>550996507
play forefront

>>551032615
Classic sniper gameplay

>>551032568
is that an uruki?

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>>550990627
https://vrch.at/gjnu6n7b
anmie
reminder we're starting sanda right away at 10:15 today since flap flippers is delayed until after christmas

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Illegal Mahjong really hits different.

>>551033163
Its the same shitty tilegun instance, not even illegal jing vibes

>>551025208
You don't even have VR, don't pretend like your opinions actually matter.

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>>551033361
the newfags in both timezones are enjoying the experience before they become jaded and disgruntled like the rest of us so let them have fun and burn out later

>>551033361
do you think illegal references the map it's played in or something?

>>551034235
I just hate tilegun

>>551034868
me too kid

>>551034868
map wars are such an odd thing

https://jinxxy.com/Badyr/Lyre

cop or drop?

i got vr molested for the first time. incredibly rude of them.

>>551036580
God fucking dammit I wish I could have watched or participated

>>551036845
it wasnt that exciting. i was sitting on the floor talking to someone when someone walked by and pretended to hump my face for a minute before moving on.i didn't realize what was going on for most of it.

My only true disagreement with tilegun, is the shaten counter. It allows you to not pay as much attention as you should.

Today when I was walking down the street a random man high fived me and it reminded of VRChat where people will headpat you.
I was going to leave him hanging but he seemed mentally slow and I didn't want to be mean.

>>551036981
Oh. Yeah that's actually really lame, sorry. I wouldn't count that, you aren't truly VR molested for the first time until you enjoy it

>>551037150
>hi five a random dude
>fantasize about headpats
Straightest /vrg/ poster

>>551037161
i have zero sex drive unless it involves my weak spot. even then, i'm very particular about it. that is unlikely to ever happen.

Tile gun suck because Their worlds are not quest compatible.
They look nice in the screen caps still

>>551036290
the face is cute for once, but i often wonder if gumroad authors have ever seen the proportions of a real human body before

>>551036290
I like snow leopard patterns but they're a bit ruined by whores using them.

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play VR games

>>551037994
>real human body
This is VRChat. If I wanted to see real human bodies I'd play IRLChat

>>551037739
Poor E...
Abandoned by his EU comrades... but welcomed with open arms to illegal mahjong

>>551037319
>i have zero sex drive unless it involves my weak spot. even then, i'm very particular about it. that is unlikely to ever happen.
do you mind telling us more anon? I've never heard of something like this

>>551039105
kek I'm not him

>>551039250
i don't use a female avatar, so it's unlikely to titillate you. i will leave you with the mystery

>>551036290
I felt my framerate drop just looking at it

battlefield 2 is better

>>551039556
Understandable. However, that wasn't my intention.

>>551040143
so true, i still fire it up every full moon even if it is just ai bot shengangians

i feel like i'm always a hair away from my avatar slipping into IMVU territory when i'm working on it

Thursday poker host: I didn't catch if you're going to host poker on christmas.
Either way, its going to be difficult for me to join for obvious reasons.

>>551040942
Who asked fag we're playing without you

>>551040519
Are you using a Shinra base?

>>551025208
gotta pick up that talos p

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>>551033163
hell yeah legal mahjong is fun but illegal mahjong is comfy af because i usually get to play with the doods i miss on legal days

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Pretty solid vr adventure game. Final boss felt like I was supposed to be doing something like platforming or whatever to avoid its melee attacks but by that point I had so many healing syringes and ammo packs I could just blast it on repeat. I swear thrown grenades home in on targets when you throw them too. Catching and returning enemy grenades is pretty fun though their real strength is in ragdolling enemies off cliffs.
10 hours. Got all the lore collectibles in one run. Worth trying if you want a very classic feeling vr game.

>>551042073
good to hear

>>551039054
allow me to clarify: these bodies are deformed aesthetic abortions, and if you like them you're tasteless and retarded

>>551036981
>i didn't realize what was going on for most of it.
Unbelievably lame. Making a cute anon feel embarrassed/aroused/confused/nervous/happy/violated is by far the best part about molestation in vr.

>>551043223
I'm not, I'm pretty sure they just saw the long hair and thought there was a girl to harass

>>551039054
Nobody wants to see your obese fat fuck body

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>>551037109
the shanten counter is suitable for new players, and eventually, you play enough mahjong that (You) know your shanten without looking at the counter. it just becomes part of the periphery, i honestly dont understand why people think its a bad thing, or even a crutch, but i probably dont mind it because its how i started learning mahjong, and now i can play maps without the counter because i also played quite a bit of mahjong soul

>>551044310
this would be true however none(atleast 99.9%) of the eu players never play outside of garage or tilegun for the past 2-3 years they've been doing tilegun because they've been spoiled by the training wheels,

>>551042660
what game?

>>551044826
why stress about this

why not just not care about what map anons play mahjong on?

>>551045265
Arken Age

>>551044826
also before there was tilegun, we learned the hard cruel way having mahjong sheets on our overlay, like the og 1st version of manual tanki mahjong 6 years ago. it's because they're so accustomed to playing ff14 and tilegun they struggle with remembering what the chink titles are for the man tiles which is incredibly easy to learn once you visualize them with something easy to remember (6 man is running man, 7 is t-pose man, 8 mountain, 9 is a mountain butte is my go-to)
>>551045530
I always see tilegun and garage as hangout maps first and mahjong maps second, many people see it as that way so its harder to moderate for people who are accustomed to them as such and not there for mahjong, they see something like chiitoisu, nakanishi, rinshan and avoid it because they know it's mahjong specific(usually, unless theyre randos and have no idea what a mahjong is)

>>551045728
that's a very old school way of looking at things and hasn't really been applicable for a long time

>>551045902
I've long accepted it will never change. I'll play there, but I won't host there. It's a relief there's such a high demand to play mahjong right now at least, even if it is the worst play to experience the game. Even some euros I've talked with recently said it'd be interesting to host elsewhere, but the fact is most would completely struggle without the training wheels simply because they've spent so much time playing there and nowhere else. That's my opinion on the matter anyway.

>>551044310
I'll consider adding it, but I don't really like how it simplifies integrating tiles into your hand.
I'll prioritize stuff like adding western number and cardinal directions for now as that doesn't change the essence of decision making in the game.

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>>551044826
i agree with some of this, mainly that EU mostly just plays tilegun, but id say almost all of them dont need training wheels, because i was taught by EU players who couldnt read my shanten counter while they spectated me. its just a really cozy map. i believe there would be more EU players if illegal jong was hosted earlier, as it stands, wevr been playing at 12am-1am for most regions

>>551046532
the biggest hurdle is timezones, a good time for euros is a bad time for na and vicve versa. I only attempted once to host a hour earlier for eu and nearly nobody showed up for half an hour beside one other person. There used to actually be a lot more euros during the height of covid, but now nearly none of them play anymore. Not even the adjcaent japs play anymore. When you think about it, only really me and the mail man are the only ones from the original mahjong group who still activley play (and the banana). The swamp bird, the swede, the fin; they never actively play anymore. The Citrus unshiu is a wildcard ever since he became a slave to marriage to expect him to show up. It's just grim.

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>>551046834
But all that said I'm happy there's this explosion of newfriends who like and enjoy mahjong so eagerly (beside the le le epic illgal jongers); it hasn't been since I first started hosting mahjong again in the summer of 2022 that we had such an influx of newfriends eager to play regardless of the map played.

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>>551033157
thanks for coming frems
no anime on wednesday since that's christmas eve, so see you on next sunday for starting flip flappers

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>>551046834
>>551047207
ive only been playing a year, but illegal jong ignited a passion in me for the game. its so good because its as close as you can get to irl, and it has made me and others better players because we dont have the anxiety-inducing 5-second timer you get to make your discard in mahjong soul. this shit rocks.
now time for bed. goodnight, dood

>>551048349
>but illegal jong
>its so good because its as close as you can get to irl,
I hope you're not just saying that strictly because of tilegun, and have played tanki at least... oysumi anywho

>>551044310
i do this exact thing at the mahjong table. i wonder if its annoying

>>551047528
oh my fucking science is than usasaki

I've got an idea for dealing with the shaten counter: Just add a sound effect that plays for the player only after he increases its own shaten counter.
I think giving him this information, makes it so he can analyze his own mistakes, without guiding him towards the proper discard.

>>551049583
only issue is, the creators aren't vrg, and they won't give up their version of it

In my opinion it's good to have both maps running. As another anon said tilegun is good for new players. having a weekly tilegun is important to get people started on mahjong. I encourage the tilegun regulars to try branching out and joining some of the other instances from time to time as it will improve your understanding of the game. Also you get to meet a new crowd.

>all these settings
What the fuck since when did vrchat get so many options for fbt calibration? Just found this video and it has blown my mind. Mandatory watching for all fbt users.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHoWWZzP7Q

>>551050553
Since they hired Kung

I'm going to blame FUCKING META for a memory leak on their program.
>Play normal game, everything good
>Play VRchat. Quit VR chat after some time
>Computer misbehaving and research says it could be a memory leak from a program
>Play different VR game, same issue
So the only common denominators is steamvr and meta, but i'd like to blame zucc.

>He fell for the 16gb meme
That was 4 years ago now anon, and now 16gb of ram costs as much as a house.

>>551050553
buy an ad stop shilling your shitty trackers for fucks sake

>>551051029
I noticed my space calibrator eating up memory at random.
If you have it open while playing other games, try closing it or having the window on screen instead of minimized and see if that resolves it.

>>551046103
>without the training wheels simply because they've spent so much time playing there and nowhere else
Lol, lmao even
Most regular players deactivate the training wheels as soon as they enter. The main reason reason why tile gun is still used is that it have custom tables that loads and play faster.
It's also packed with other qol features: tiles non visible in mirrors, spectating areas, sanma mode, different tilesets
It's the much better map if you care more about playing mahjong than anything

Playing VTOL VR with some of the weapons makes me feel like im cheating.
You're telling me all i need to do to get these air to ground missiles to work is to look at the target and shoot? And nothing defends it?
AA IR missiles, i just fire when the cockpit tells me to shoot are you kidding me?
Then again, maybe its because they die in 1 hit and i die in 3-4 missiles.

>>551053456
I said it before and I'll say it again, Tile Gun is used a lot because it's just a nice map in general. Even if tilegun didn't have "training wheels" or whatever, everyone would still go there.

>>551055512
>>551053456
If I just wanted the most convenient mahjong experience, I would just play mahjong soul on my phone. Half the reason to play it in VR is having the ambience of a real parlor and tile gun is just shitty 5 year old /mjg/ memes on all the walls.

>>551050056
Have you been to an NA mahjong instance? It's depressing, they just spend every hanchan ranting about trannies and how the rest of /vrg/ trooned out. Or complaining about EU joomers having fun at tile gun. Or talking about how depressing their lives are IRL. They're like the old chinese ladies who only play as an excuse to complain about everything to each other.

>>551056330
That's more an NA thing than a mahjong thing

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what does /vrg/ think about Somnium Space VR ?

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>>551054889
Update: Blew myself up with my own bomb.

Hello. We are currently running an investigation into the VRChat dev team and are following a rumor that Tupper was active in a 4chan community and heavily advertised VRChat on 4chan in its early years.

Can you confirm whether this is true?

>>551060792
kill yourself nigger

>>551060792
no he's had nothign to do with us, people think he did because we used his tutorials a lot but he never actually had anything to do with us

>>551060645
made by the most insufferable, petty cryptobro eurofaggots imaginable

>>551060792
We confirm

>>551060645
don't their ball lenses weigh about 20 pounds?

>>551060792
>trying to write hit pieces
please go back to r*ddit we don't need your negativity here we have too much already

>>551060792
He gave me the sloppiest toppy ever performed in 2019. That dude sucks dick so well I almost quit VRC then and there because I knew I'd never have my soul sucked from my cock that well ever again

>>551060792
fuck off and never come here again

>>551057017
>>551056330
why are NA instances like this? it's miserable

>>551060792
By his own admission, he's the creator of the first /vrg/ thread that started this community in December 2017. If you find the archived threads from that time, you can find posts where tupper identifies himself and invites people reading the thread to his VRChat anime movie nights.

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>>551060764
Ok last webm, got this cool strafing run.
Tried to do this for the 2nd (same type of) objective, it worked, but got shot down by gatling tower. Still, if all objectives were complete, and i died, i'm saying thats still enough for me to move onto the next mission.

>>551060792
I'm Tupper. I never left, I'm still here. I made this thread. I've made about 600 of these threads and half the posts in this thread is me.

My name is Tupper and this is my favorite site on the internet.

>>551061191
This is not true btw.

>>551060949
objectively wrong, he actively tried to get people to try VRChat here in January and February of 2018,

The young /vrg/ community was also invited to join Tupper and his friends IRL both for Anime Expo 2018, and Sakura-con 2019. There may be more cases from that time but I'm unaware of them.

>>551061613
See even you get confused. Just because we linked his tutorial doesn't mean he was here, retard.

>>551061658
???
He never even left, he's even right here:
>>551061536

>>551061658
See >>551061414 , he would actively invite the early /vrg/ anons to his movie night instances.

>>551061851
That's where I got the sloppy. Good times. I remember it like it was yesterday.

Thank you for the confirmation. We will check the archives to verify these statements.

To be clear, this investigation is not targeted at you, but at the dev team and their lackluster moderation when it comes to grooming and hate speech.

We think it is problematic for a community head to openly associate with 4chan without consequences.

>>551062505
He's still here though

>>551062505
>We think it is problematic for a community head to openly associate with 4chan without consequences.

oh no, the community head is hanging around with the community that plays his game, that's crazy bro, what a waste of oxygen you are

>>551062505
A damn shame this isn't real

>>551062680
I miss jelly fr fr

>>551062693
Yeah the tell is that journalists, let alone internet hitpiece journalists would not be able to figure out the captcha.

>>551062750
The new captcha sure is a mess, that's for sure

>>551062864
>bought the pass to bypass the captcha

>>551063450
yeah, in 2018

>>551063518
It's ok I understand. I ran the numbers as well
>Assuming it takes 20 seconds to solve a captcha and I post 100 posts a day. That's 2,000 seconds per day saved which is about 0.55 hrs saved per day. In a month that is 16.67 hrs saved per month. In a year that's 200 hrs per year saved.
Assuming I am paid $25 per hr that is $5,000 value

>>551063561
simply start posting less, it's good for your mental health

>>551063726
Nuh uh

>>551063561
it isn't about the money
I gain more enjoyment from a full year of a pass than I do a night or two of takeout

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>>551060792
>>551062505


Ignore the shitposters, here's some objective evidence for you:

>17 September 2017
https://archived.moe/vg/thread/190640862/
Someone asks the thread creator for his contact information, and the creator responds "Tupper#5892 on Discord would work best."

>27 December 2017
Tupper invites the thread to his weekly anime showings like >>551061414 mentioned. He blatantly says "Can confirm, am Tupper. Send me a friend request in-game (search for Tupper in the top right of the Social menu) and join on me"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6P0ddMOJW0 a /vrg/ community video from 2021 that tupper directly commented on.

>>551060792
>>551062505
>>551063924
I forgot to include the link to the second one: https://archived.moe/vg/thread/199821587/

>>551063924
Thank you for the information. This will be investigated and added to the concerns that are being collected. Would you like to provide a statement? Without a statement we will have to consider everything as a non-trusted source so if you can provide some contact information we can proceed from there.

>>551060792
Tupper just flew over my house

>>551064129
nice larp lmao, no real content creator would ever bother with this kind of "official statement"

>>551064239
i think it's reasonable to collect an official statement from 4chan about this serious issue to the health and safety of vrc users

even bait is reclining

>>551064293
Post your channel/identity first and say who you are and I'll consider it. regardless of you being a lying faggot, my post was less for your youtube video and more to remind the other anons here that tupper used to be one of us until he decided promoting trans academy on everyone's menu was more important.

>>551064482
I'm sure the redditor youtuber hitpiece journalist scum's cock tastes great.

>>551064576
I'm sure the cocks of the VRC mod team who ERP in private then ban others for doing the same taste even better.

>>551064684
You're mad about not being able to suck cock, you fucking retard. You're even scared to show who you are because you know that your behavior is fucking abysmal.

>>551064747
>anonymous on an anonymous imageboard
wow, I'm such a coward

>>551064996
And yet you betray that sentiment entirely just to be a schizo gossip worm. Anonymous on an anonymous imageboard, who'd value that?

>>551065159
I just want to see tupper and the rest of the team face real consequences for their hypocrisy, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend even if it's a cringe reddit youtuber.

>>551063908
It's about the time yes

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The fuck is happening in here? Third parties, basically powerful randos, hit some VRChat comfies? Now people are out for revenge?

take me back

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>>551032238
late but no i didnt

>>551043154
How are they deformed? I don't see it. Its not that I partially like them. I just don't mind them.

>>551043459
How is that obese? The stomach is completely flat.

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I don't think those proportions are that weird for an anime girl. One Piece has much more exaggerated proportions for example.

>>551068684
ESL.

>>551069985
monolingual btw

I'd like to know the actual features of tilegun you guys actually use.
From what I see, most people just change the tiles, then continue playing as usual. No one seems to actually care about sanma (with the weird tilegun rules btw), or spectator mode for general instances, so I'd say the main QoL stuff is around legibility for westernerns.

>>551072795
I don't change anything. When I get there I just sit down and play.

>>551072795
I just find it comfy and warn, The lighting is rly cool

>>551053456
Suzuki fixed up the table long time ago, so vanilla mahjong prefab is as fast. You can also have skin changer and what not. Tilegun has sanma shanten counter and stupid hughlights, thats the additional features over vanilla, but they are more annoying than useful. The map itself is uncomfy, I don't understand why we cling to it...

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Not a great fanatical sale but if you are a questlet purist and want exfilzone and something else it's still slightly cheaper than on the meta store.

>>551072795
Have a button that complains about the current state of <x>when you press it

>>551054889
In real life its even more "cheating". IRL apache can in one button click scan the nearby area with radar, recognize the enemy vehicles from their 3D shape, automatically prioritize them, and program rhe radar guided hellfire for top priority target. Then all pilot has to do is confirm targets (optional) by automatically slewing thermal camera towards the target, or just spam "weapon release" button for up to 16 hellfires go towards up to 16 automatically identified targets. And it works through foliage. And all you need to expose is the radome abive the main helicopter blades.

VTOL actually reduces capabilites of the planes back to make the game more fun.

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>>551072795
i use the fisher price tiles and shanten counter, not because i need them anymore, but just because its what i used when i first joined the world. they have a nice contrast to the map. the counter is enabled by default. the only things id really care about in any mahjong world is highlighted dora and highlights on my opponents discards for quick folding decisions. this is because i have a vive, the screendoor effect is pretty intense, so i cant read tiles from a distance, id probably annoy others having to move or playspace to read the bakyou near constantly. fuck the top camera, i cant get it into a comfortable position or angle

>>551072795
I'd like to see the night mode be dim down-lights, instead of a blue filter.

>>551040942
not on christmas, possibility informal sat/sun

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I did not mentally recover. This is stage 1.

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>>551075364
Alt-f4 is my codriver now

>>551075364
>asian women driving

>>551075440
oh this track looks...great

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>>551075830
It's actually really fun. My practice runs were a blast and I was zipping around no problem as if I belonged there.
Just I slid a tiny bit on the first few goddamn seconds and tilted the fuck out immediately.

>>551025208
Picture needs updating to a steam frame.

>>551074494
> I'd like to know the actual features of tilegun you guys actually use.
Faster tables, stick down to skip call, tileset options, tiles not visible in personal mirror (which is important for tourneys), have more tables than some other maps and is a map only about mahjong
> No one seems to actually care about sanma (with the weird tilegun rules btw)
I personally don't use it, but how is the tilegun rules weird? It's standard sanma rules as far as I remember
> so I'd say the main QoL stuff is around legibility for westernerns.
It isn't only that, but that point is super important considering we are teaching westerners to play the game

>>551074494
> Suzuki fixed up the table long time ago, so vanilla mahjong prefab is as fast
As far as i know, suzuki changed the udon sync to be manual instead of automatic, but never fixed the table initialization which slows down everyone when someone joins (and I don't remember if the tile draw was made as fast as in tile gun, there used to be a freeze when you draw a tile). Checked the updates on the booth page and there's nothing listed about table initialization
> The map itself is uncomfy, I don't understand why we cling to it...
Because it's the most functional one, with no debate possible. If a map releases and is more functional I'd change, but if it's only on par at best then I see no reason to change (only world close to it is garage disco, but tables are overall slower and there's less of them).

>>551026656
>>551027124
Awesome clips, I should replay the game.

>>551038847
Is there a semi-auto shotgun?

>>551072795
I switch to normal tiles turn off the highlights, and when possible click competition start. And to my annoyance highlights still stay on most of the time.
I wish I could get rid of shanten counter it feels like cheating.
The hight of kotatsus are also annoying, I want a proper fucking table, and the seaside house is just very unmahjong.

what we really need is tilegun 2 which plays mahjong automatically

>>551076307
>Is there a semi-auto shotgun?
Yes. It's good.

>>551038847
dayum, fuckin sick play

>>551076395
>I wish I could get rid of shanten counter it feels like cheating.
there literally is an option to remove it, but yea dora highlight toggle doesn't work

>>551076408
We need to host weekly AI mahjong where AI is playing with you.

>>551038847
shotgun seems really overpowered

>>551075830
The track is good, but its a series of slower turns. Panty dimension user just got extremely unlucky. Also that wall is fucking magnetic.

>>551077001
Shooting people in the back is overpowered

>>551076125
>but never fixed the table initialization
He did, I remember reading about it, it is definitely faster. Should be in the changelog somewhere.

>>551077085
yea but there's no counter play when you get no chance to react since you get one tapped in the chest, you would have to turn around every 5 seconds to check your surroundings

>>551077281
Counter play is having a team, it's common to have people launch their ATVs over the hill to jump into that A point.

>>551077375
well you're right, too bad it's hard to get people who can work as a team in flat games even

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I'm making a Beat Saber map. Any recommendations before I upload it?

>>551077591
French/German sweats can be pretty good to play with if you're hopping around in random publics.

>>551077660
When I played beat saber, my favorite maps were ones where I felt like I was dancing, more than it being a wrist-flickathon.

I wish Forefront had more options when it comes to the virtual stock. Using snipers at long range is almost impossible without it, but the opposite is true with shotguns.

>>551076125
>stick down to skip call
Please elaborate on this

AFAIK, tilegun sanma doesn't have nukidora. I thought that was non-standard.

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Not sure it's sanitary down there...

>>551078995
In tilegun and garages, when you have a call pending (pon/chii etc) you can deflect your right stick downward to click "no" without visibly reaching for no button.

>>551078995
when you have a pon/chi, you can press the right joystick down to skip the call instead of using the ui button, which makes your skip invisibles to others instead of moving physically your hand
garage also have it, but with an added delay which makes the process longer
iirc tilegun have kita, but haven't played sanma in a while (and would rather not) so unsure about it

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>>551079745
>>551079890
???? what DAH HELLY I didNT KNOW U COULD DO THAT

>>551079890
Garage has also a funny feature of automatically cancelling calls if the player is distracted and takes too long. You can even loose your Ron

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Nice menu for snipers.

SHUT THE FUCK UP MAHJONG NIGGER
FOREFRONT WHEN

SHUT THE FUCK UP FOREFRONT NIGGER
MAHJONG WHEN

Joomers run this place lil boy

>>551053456
By the way just checked to be sure, so in addition to what I listed earlier; the default prefab does not display the tsumogiri/tedashi (if someone discards a tile from their hand or the one they just drew, which is important info)
In tile gun when someone discards a tile from their hand, you will see a temporary hole (with a randomized position) in the player's hand, until the next player discards.
The only other mahjong world which have tsumogiri/tedashi display is "麻雀 緑一色 ⁄ Just Riichi Mah-jongg"; but it does it by highlighting or not everyone's last discarded tile

Shut the fuck up all of you, It's karaoke time.

>>551083087
You can see it by the hand movements though

VOLLEYJOOMERS
RISE UP

>>551083087
My world had tsumogiri display. Its on the prefab by default, but people told me to disable it for some reason I don't fully understand yet.

>>551083342
no you can't, colliders goes way under the table and good fucking luck making the difference between rightmost tile and draw tile
even more if you play against a desktopper

>>551083462
depends if it's on for all discards or just latest one, if all discards then yea it's better off. Otherwise you are literally removing strategies from the game

>>551083390
Need to start lynching anyone who is being caught doing anything other than volleyball and mahjong tbdesu

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IT IS MAHJONG DAY

It's fishing day

IT'S VOLLEYJONG DAY

i hate group activities all of you are insufferable. what are some good single player games in vr?

>>551085057
EA WRC

I will never participate in mahjong, volleyball, karaoke, movie watching, anime watching, exploration, fishing, golf, pypy, dance dash, udon saber, MMD, vicroy, horse racing, forefront, OJ

>>551085115
The price of the game increased by 10 bucks for me compared to before the christmas sale. I hate EA so much it's unreal engine.

>>551085186
Assetto Rally then? Ther'es a UEVR mod for it but official VR mode coming eventually

>>551085158
chess GODS, we rule this general

>>551080969
kek
it was so confusing then it happened to me

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what it feels like to work the week before christmas

>>551085505
can i get a pepperoni

>>551085158
>horse racing
UMA CHADS WW@ PACK THIS GUY UP

>>551085241
UEVR works okay, but the culling is tied to the "forward" of the car, so when youre going sideways detail just dissapears and you cant see if youre going to hit something or not.

>>551054889
IR missiles are knife fighting range only while radar missiles can be launched from BVR. The only weapons that are really outmoded are the purely dumb bombs and the cheaper versions of all the various weapons.

>>551085158
alcoholism bros we're so back.

i hate alcoholics so fucking much

>>551086225
I'll drink to that, cheers!

>>551086225
cheers to that my nigga

zobies?