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>Druids Info
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

previous rape victim: >>550982412
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>>551037441
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Give it to me straight guys, will Path of Exile 2 be good in the future? If not, will we get Phrecia soon?
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>do all the work to kill jamanra
>assala or whatever her name is gets the last hit and takes all the credit
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POE2 still has hope, but it requires bloodshed.

Delete all ranged supports, no more shooting while moving, no more laser guns, no more crossbow uzis, just nerf everything about ranged into the ground. Shooting 3 arrows at once should be the hardest thing to attain. A skill like lightning arrow should require significant INT investment and a unique bow that shoots lightning to achieve.

If you're going to have 'realistic weighty melee combat' you need to not have bows magically shoot 20 arrows a second that ricochet causing every ailment on the planet. If you do this, but still insist on your melee characters slowly raising their arm into the air, going 'YAAAH!" before swinging, you're making a fundamentally misbalanced terrible game.
Melee weapons should have a dash dodge, slow as fuck dodge roll is only for bowcucks and casters don't get to dodge roll at all.

When they add swords and daggers into the game they need to do this, just delete all the players who love ranged 1 button faggotry from wanting to play your game and watch all the hundreds of thousands of melee enjoyers they have pushed out from their audience to come back
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Did they make a mistake adding Abyss first?
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Of all the games I sometimes play I think PoE2 might have the least helpful community I've ever seen. Anytime someone asks for a hand with a bossfight or a tip for a class 9 times out of 10 the response they get is "just git gud" or some variation. It's very strange to me
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>>551037586
>will Path of Exile 2 be good in the future?
possibly. the game sorely needs more classes, weapons and skills. I think with the addition of axes, swords, flails, daggers and the associated 4 classes, the game will be in a much better state, instead of having these gigantic dead zones in the passive tree and skills that have only 1 synergy.
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writer phoned it in on Druid I think
I thought I was going to be in for some kino when his wife pops out in Act 1 but outside of him having a nice old man discussion with Maata in A4 the character is just boring
as an example, when you kill the Faridun prince in Interlude 2, the Druid triumphantly says "The Vastiri will NEVER be ruled by a Faridun hand!" or something to that effect
why the fuck does the Druid care who rules the Vastiri? Why would he have anything against the Faridun?
I know most of you don't give a shit but GGG usually has really good story content quality, weird how bad Druid is
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reposting the werewolf technology

add another 20% to your dps for basically free
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>>551037801
they made the mistake of making it good, now everything else needs to be good and they can't make the shitty game they want to make
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>>551037832
People are too bitter and frustrated so they want to lash out. But I've been helped multiple times recently, you just have to ask the right way and be patient, sometimes you'll have to ask twice or three times but I've never seen someone who genuinely needs help completely ignored.
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>>551037593
new zealand is woke and niGGGer has DEI hires. remember when Bex had to take a month off because a bunch of muslims got shot up in a mosque in australia?
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>>551037832
Well you can check out this interaction right here for why it became like this
>>551035171
This guy complains about the game and his build being weak, because he intentionally chose something with no synergy and didn't figure out how to craft/find his own gear in SSF
>>551035171
I try to help him understand what happened and offer to help him fix his character.
>>551035171
In this post, the retard who bricked his own character and didn't read his own skills, tells me to fuck off.

This is all too common, especially in /poeg/.

If you want to make a build and share it, or share advice, this isn't just not the place, it's the worst place, because surly piece of shit subhuman animals inhabit it and think they know better, even when they are eating shit and getting 1 shotted by white mobs. You can literally tell them 'no man, you can screen clear with one skill, just use this gem setup', and they will tell you to go fuck yourself because you dared to follow the 'intended way to play'.

This general is trash. It has no value. If you value yourself and your own sanity, just leave. The doomers and imbecile scub peasants shitted it up fully.
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>>551037832
Are you just complaining or do you need help with something? In my experience if you ask for help you will often get it, if you worded it properly. There's a difference between:
>Can someone give me some advice on how to fix my build? Right now I'm struggling to survive in T5 maps and my damage rotation feels unfinished.
and
>This game is fucking trash, jonathan rogers should be castrated with a rusty industrial paper shear. TRIALS ARE FUCKING RETARDEDLY BROKEN THIS GAME IS TOOO HARD
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>>551037864
Maybe the Druid is a libertarian.
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when smokie_777 decides to play poo2 that's when you know the game is finally worth playing
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Is Pounce like a free movement tech for everybody since the werewolf form has increased ms? Like even if you're a spellcuck for example
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>>551038242
I posted the original comment, I never told you to fuck off? I didn't even reply because you offered nothing of value to me.
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>>551038242
nta
in your post you say werewolf skills have no physical damage scaling
this is flat out wrong
shred scales physical fine, there are also tons of physical damage nodes, including physical damage while shapeshifted
you're just mad about something else in real life and taking it out here
deal with your real life dude, go apologize to your kids or your wife or whatever you fucked up
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>>551037995
Yeah maybe I've just been unlucky with what I've seen, but I've observed plenty of new people asking for aid who go unanswered or if they keep asking they get hit with some insult for being bad.
>>551038269
I don't need help with anything, no. It was just an observation I made from many chat interactions I see in the global channel. Normally when people ask kindly in other games there's at least someone who's willing to give them a hand. But anytime I play PoE2 it's always full of the 'git gud' people who seem to be aching for a chance to tell someone else how bad they are. I just find it really strange because the game isn't even competitive in the PvP sense.
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>>551038489
the guy pointed out your flawed mindset and even literally offered to help, and you responded with a snarky "stopped reading there" brown post. why are you trying to nigger out a fake narrative when the entire exchange between you two is laid out for everybody to see already?
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>>551038689
>But anytime I play PoE2 it's always full of the 'git gud' people who seem to be aching for a chance to tell someone else how bad they are
ngl It sounds like you've been posting in general chat or steam forums. Last thread doesn't have a single instance of anyone saying git gud, get good, or skill issue to someone.
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>>551038842
It's based on the general chat yes, I've never visited the PoE threads before
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>>551038787
>everyone who replies to me is the same person
this is where you fucked up newfriend
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I think PoE and D4 should have a crossover event and maybe we can like make out during it
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>>551038992
D4 has no need to slum it with losers, what would they have to gain from it?
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>>551037441
>tries to make a soulclone
>don't understand that soul games are melee first and foremost
>put spells and projectile skills that can cast while moving while shooting 15 projectiles in all direction doing gatrillion damage
>claims that poo2 was made to fix melee
>melee dies in a degen puddle

what did GGG mean by this..
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poe2 is?
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Isnt Shred's purpose just to create as many Ice Fragments possible in the Freeze window and trigger Moonbeams?
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>>551038369
>when smokie_777 decides to play poo2 that's when you know the game is finally worth playing

Smokie is either trans (99%) or some old crone that smokes a lot (1%) which explains her voice.

She's still based thoughm
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>>551039261
she's a girl
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Z9CALQz3w
You guys told me bear sucked????
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Poop 2? Utter dogshit
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>no stash tab for tablets
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>>551039404
>she's a girl

Until I drink her pussy juice from the source she'll still be trans.
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>>551039418
>bro just invest 500000000000000 divines then its good
ok
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>>551038925
yeah you're not gonna get anything but retards there as you've discovered
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It all started going downhill ever since Bex left. Chris lost his office toy so he got bored and quit, Erik had already fucked off to shove mtg cards up his ass or something. Now Johnathan is all alone with nothing to stop his unchecked autism.
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>>551037441
WHEN I WAS A YOUNG BOY
MY FATHER TOOK ME INTO THE CITY
TO SEE A MARCHING BAND
HE SAID, POE2 HAS NO GAEM
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>>551039824
you think they were doing it?

bex is bretty cute doe
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>>551039109
What it means is that PoE1 devs who were probably kept at arms length from PoE2 development were suddenly put on the team when Chris left and since making melee combat is hard and making a single point emit a laser beam/projectile is easy, they just tripled down on the only thing GGG knows how to do: fireworks.

There is no single way that when swords and stuff are finally added to the game they will be seen as even remotely viable even from the outset, not unless swords just spew particles and beams like everything else does (which is probably what's going to happen).
PoE devs are retarded as their players are. GGG has been held hostage by a false fandom that wants their game to stay shit and niche and only for them, the spreadsheet zoomers.

GGG has equal part in it's own destruction though. By being lazy and skimping on what makes monsters and combat truly good in a souls like and by thinking they could just inject dodge rolls and poise and what not into their game and wallah, they're fucking retarded.
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OP is a faggot
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>>551038687
no werewolf does not scale physical 'fine', if you ignore the elemental component of werewolf you are losing 75% of your damage
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How do people get ten gorillion ES while also still doing damage?
I am lvl 60 and I have 1400 ES. All my gear has ES on it. I have taken passives with minion damage, a few faster ES recharge start nodes and I am starting to take more ES max nodes now. I am playing the new disciple ascend which also gives 40% more max ES.
But people are saying they are reaching 10k+ ES and I just dont see how that is even possible?
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>>551040092
learn to craft
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>>551039942
Chris is gay bro.
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>>551040092
high level gear with T1/T2 affixes, and then items with +es and %global defenses and %es on them

look at your gear and press 'alt', and you can see the tier of the affixes on it, the lower the tier of the affix the more power it is

at level 60 you're probably seeing t5 t6 affixes max
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>>551040197
pity.

was imagining Chris slammin Bex while forcing her to read 3.15 reddit hate comments. That's hot
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>>551039109
>>tries to make a soulclone
based retard
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>>551040390
>WASD
>Rolldodge with iframes
>Parry
>Sprint

>m-muh game is not soulsclone m-muh waaahhh
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>>551040538
Also sekiro posture/stun bar
Also poise, also shield block stamina
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ssf shaman werewolf 1-93 and arbiter down in 4 days
bonus godlike gloves for the build dropped
overall was a lot of fun, felt like ice monk early on until I got really tanky with shaman ascendency

did at least 30 abyssal depths and never got an abyss boss

so many people doom on this game but its a solid arpg even in this early access state
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>try the amazon bow meme
>entire build is just spamming ice shot
this is kinda boring ngl
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>>551040758
if it works it works
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guys I think we have a task.
we have a job.
we have a mission.
the game (talking about poe1 here, poo2ers can stop reading) is getting boring, it's getting too easy.
SSF is a fake challenge, because you can always run the same builds and you'll beat the game.
the real challenging mode is HC, but HC trade is dead.
We have to ressurect it. We have to make HC trade popular again. It is actually challenging because not dying is challenging and there's more build variety because it's no SSF all rares boring stuff.
our mission is to make HC trade great again.
spread the word, lets get out of boring SC trade forever.
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>>551040714
Huh, I see you're doing the whole no charms thing. Is the 120 extra spirit worth losing the stun/freeze dodging? I had been trying to decide what to do with my last ascendancy (I took the proximity exposure and the two adaptation nodes so far) and it was between that and the bonded runes stuff. I'm also ssf werewolf and I'm really starting to struggle a bit as I get near the top end of stuff. Did you spec into any minion stuff at all for your wolves? I dunno if they're really worth it...
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No one would like Dark Souls with limited lives - This game needs to make a choice

If this game wants to have combat more tactical and akin to Dark Souls then the punishing 1 death mechanics need to go. I'm not just talking about maps either the new league mechanic is even worse. The boss fights in Trials and Chaos as well you don't have any opportunities to learn without getting extremely punished.

I don't mind dying in souls because even on the worse boss it's a 1 minute re-do but on Poe it's minimum 10 minutes but usually hours if your talking pinnacle content or league mechanics.
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>>551041260
He's right
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>the tourists are no longer mazed
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>>551041260
>>551041260
Exactly right. Also imagine if Dark Souls every single enemy shot out fireballs and all of them spammed rabidly sprinting and attacking on sight, and when they died they dropped ground auras that cursed you.
Imagine then that every melee weapon was just a visual skin and behaved identical to one another and the combat was just repeating the same 2 combos the entire game to defeat everything.

Imagine then that defeating lord gwyn the final boss instead of getting his soul and the ability to make a cool unique sword, he dropped you a blue belt and some gold.

That's PoE2
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>>551040538
>isometric
>skill tree
>fantasy setting
>lightning spells
nice baldur's gate 3 clone nigger
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>>551041432
>shitters are getting filtered
welcome to path of exile.
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>he is a jingakh
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>>551041634
>implying Poo2 is "Path of Exile"

fuck of nigga
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>>551041737
jingakh anon, will you be my poo2-egf???
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>laughing at noobs while being a softcore tradie
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>>551041749
>REEEEEEEEEEE
yup, path of exile.
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>>551041885
>Playing the game mode the game is balanced around
How dare they
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>>551040758
Sounds nice, link?
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>lightning rod is still bugged
zzz
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>>551041219
>Is the 120 extra spirit worth losing the stun/freeze dodging?
yeah, because you keep everything on the screen frozen forever, so stuns and freezes aren't an issue, including bosses

so you can add some stuff to power up or become more tanky/have better sustain, loyalty minions on top of shamans already powerful ascendency tank is really nice

fitting in elemental conflux is the real kicker here, because all your damage happens in one big 'window', just waiting a second before a boss fight to enter with the correct buff gives you like 50% more damage

I could drop some supports for a charm slot for rarity I suppose, but can't be bothered
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>>551041737
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0.5 - ALL GEMS BUFFED
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Are grenades just shit in maps or am I messing up
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Anyone know how Fresh Clip interacts with Hailstorm Rounds?
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Are these devs fucking serious with this Tavakai third phase? They’re both IGN don’t even play their own game.
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>>551043010
Adds a hint of mint
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>>551042817
white people do be like that
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wtf they released a patch 3 days before xmas
poe1 could never
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poop of excrement 2
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>>551042817
Oh nononononono jingakh anon RUN!
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>>551037441
>First time playing act 4
>It's kino
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>find a ring
>price check it
>"huh, that's really cheap, it seemed like a really good crafting base if you did x then y and z"
>well if it's not worth much I just must be wrong and I'm missing something that makes it not an easy craft otherwise people would've posted a video on it already
>2 days later the method gets posted
Everytime
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>>551042245
How so?
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Any tips to craft this?

prefix: 50% gain as extra fire or +180% spell/cold damage

Suffix: +40% cast speed tai +80% crit chance
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>>551043543
picho frio
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>>551042817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYonSOkZ5ZE
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>>551043678
perfect egg slam
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these gloves are absolutely disgusting on a freeze build, holy fuck
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>>551042817
the day that being white becomes a criminal offense can't come soon enough
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another new patch
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896215
temple now lvl 81
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>>551043894
HUGE LEAGUE IS SAVED!!!
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>>551042952
Sorry chud, you'll need to roll pathfinder
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>>551043746
Should I use a perfect exalt and then use a desecrate if it hits? Or is there a better way, like fracturing?
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>>551043894
I'm playing couch co-op and my friend's temple is completely bricked. Neither of us can interact with anything in it at all. Instead of fixing bugs we get shitty buffs.
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>>551043678
Use Vaal orb
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>>551043894
>Energy Shield and Life Recharge is now delayed on logging in.
"hardcore" players in suicide watch but they still need to patch removing heavy stun trough login
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>>551043678
just watch some guy craft his item and follwo the same steps
do you even know what you're trying to get? use the omens
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>>551044106
Don't worry, that will be fixed in 0.5
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It's crazy how soulless the poo2 ascendancy classes are. At first glance they seem to have great flavor, with shit like infernal flame completely changing the way mana works, or Smith of kitava making It's own armour. Then you look at poo1 and the classes are just so much more intuitive, flexible, and FUN. Shaper of flames compared to the infernalist equivalent is the best example of how SHIT these ascendencies are. Shit, they buffed fire spell on melee hit but the ONLY SPELL THAT WORKS FOR IT IS FIREBALL. This game is so fucking ass holy shit
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>>551043632
Surpassing chance to fire an additional arrow doesn't work with it, so you're forced to use multishot or pay 10 div for a +1 arrow rune or play Deadeye
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>>551043894
the first post below the patch notes just had to lick ggg's ass
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>>551044350
just play poe1 like everybody else... oh
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>>551044350
Oracle mogs 1
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>>551044225
>removing heavy stun trough login
this actually works, nice game poetards
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>>551044049
I AM a pathfinder, that's why I said grenades and not merc
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>>551044272
yes I told you
prefix: 50% gain as extra fire or +180% spell/cold damage

Suffix: +40% cast speed tai +80% crit chance
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>>551044350
There is literally nothing on any PoE1 ascendancy as cool as adding like 50 new passives to the tree
Also I'm pretty sure Smith basically has Chieftain's fire res notables 1:1
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>>551044398
bet that really riled you up doomtroony
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>Energy Shield and Life Recharge is now delayed on logging in.
huh?
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>>551044942
>Bro! It adds 50 new passive to the tree!
>N-no... it doesn't add new pathing except in one area... but they're NEW PASSIVE SKILL CLUSTERS!
>Cluster jewels? Well no, we don't have those because they're too complicated
>They add more than 50 new passives to the tree for anyone to get?
>You just don't get it dude, it's NEW passives in an ASCENDANCY
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>>551045247
>unironically defending cluster jewels
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>>551044949
my butt is bleeding
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>>551045296
I'm not, I'm just pointing out that oracle is cluster but even worse
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>more passives
>also more players
Is there a correlation here?
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>>551045247
>implying it's a bad thing that 2 doesn't have cluster jewels
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>>551045247
I started typing "you're seriously defending fucking cluster jewels" before I saw someone else beat me to it
holy shit you're retarded
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>>551043894
Since when does GGG drop patches this close to Christmas?
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>>551045247
Retard
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>>551045247
retard
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So what's a cool build you can use to BLAST
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Sorry but dripfeeding small buffs aren't going to convince people to run the league mechanic, GGG.
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>>551044816
Sorry chud, you'll need to spec into poison
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>>551045247
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>>551044670
log out league has reached a new low
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>>551045614
Nah it just dawned on me that I was still using a crossbow from act 2 in t5 maps
Fixed now and back to steamrolling
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>>551045217
You could restart es recharge by quickly logging out and back in, hardcore players on twitch were doing it

But here is the thing, you can still use it to remove heavy stun from falling during sprint. This is four months after they added sprint.
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GIVE ME BACK MY SHIP CAPTAIN!
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I prefer some systems in 2 and the builds in 2 whilst bored with the builds in 1 and enjoying the gameplay / endgame of 1 so much more.
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>>551045247
Only smart poster itt
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>one year of early access

Is this the world record for early access duration?
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>>551046016
Fuck no
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>>551046016
star citizen will never be beat
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>>551046016
lmao not even fucking close. 7 Days to Die was in EA for like a decade before hitting 1.0.
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>>551046016
you doomers are so fucking sheltered and stupid
go play another game for fucks sake
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>>551045247
Oracle is evidence that Cluster Jewels are not the problem, it was that they were not limited to a single Cluster Jewel.
GGG could fix PoE 2 by adding them.
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>>551046016
>>551046161
Project Zomboid is still in early access and Warframe is still in beta
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NOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO RUN VAAL TEMPLE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>551042261
How are you counteracting the heavy degen from Savage Fury? Leech? I tried using it for a bit and it seemed to do completely unreasonable self damage so I kinda gave up on it.
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>>551046445
6 shrines have been activated cuck, its time
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>you only get a set of six room cards whenever you power up the temple, which takes six maps
>the rooms you get are entirely RNG, and you need to see specific rooms to upgrade other specific rooms
>there is no way to save room cards, so if you don't get what you need, the cards are deleted and you go again
>also we're going to dilute the pool with essentially useless path cards
Troonathan.
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>>551046246
Poe 2 cluster jewels would have shit like
>ailments you inflict spread to enemies in your presence. 96% reduced presence area
>infusions can always be collected twice. Deal no damage if you have no infusion. Pickup range for remnants restricted to 3 pixels
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>>551046445
Those desert 'people' are savages
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>>551046445
Lets bring this corruption spreading monster that destroys everything to our capital city
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is it true that ben says he regrets giving up wow for poe
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Kill yourself you fat fuck, PoE1 is trash.
Hold that.
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>>551046843
the twilight order are tards
chayula is making them retarded
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>>551044942
Kinda shit for an ascendancy point since the vast majority of them aren't very useful. Half of them are retarded regen nodes and some Armour on bleed or some shit.
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>>551046445
I know that this picture is a matter of the rule of cool, but the logistics of those chains don't add up.
Assuming that guy is roughly 5 foot, and 135 pounds each link is roughly the same size as him just insanely heavier. Every boat should've sunk on the weight of it alone. But they also somehow got the chains AROUND the beast over/under.
Absolutely nothing we've seen in the game barring the titans should be able to budge them. Also I'm curious how the beast itself is floating.
Jonathan's attention to detail leaves a lot to be desired.
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Played as huntress this season, and holy shit she was so much easier than monk at launch, it's not even funny. Game really isn't balanced with anyone playing melee in mind.
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>>551047202
GGG refuses to give melee any sort of compensation for all of the downsides
Bear form is even worse because your hitbox is 5x bigger so you eat shit constantly and get shotgunned nonstop
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>>551046352
warframe's "perpetual beta" label meant it would have rapid changes and constant updates and basically everything you see in modern games-as-service titles but it came out in 2013 so nobody knew or used that term yet. Destiny 1 making a gorillion dollars in and getting the entire industry hooked on live service shit didnt happen until 2014, The Division was even later in 2016
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>>551046608
kek. they honestly didn't think about this shit.

how many maps do you need in poe1 to finish 1 incursion? iirc it ws 4 right?
in pootwo you need 6
and you have control on your path in 1 while your path in 2 is random
and your fucking map isn't that big and the temple is more rewarding

honestly there shouldn't have been paths in there you're just supposed to be plopping rooms.
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>>551047189
The beast is buoyant. The sailors all have 150 str each.
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>Ascendancy: Scion
>You can allocate nodes from any class' starting point.
>Ascendancy points you would have gained are instead worth 2 passive points.
Would have 70%+ playrate with these dogshit ascendancies
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>>551047202
No shit

It's why Chris and Erik left. The meleechad game they were making PoE2 to be (PoE1 ranged/magic spam focused, PoE2 melee/action focused) was stolen from underneath them by the other devs that inhouse clearly just wanted more maze, or maybe they were scared of their fanbase fully abandoning the game if it didn't cater to them.

That being said, PoE2 was announced, the very first time with Ranger as the character. It was then reannounced, also with Ranger, using Crossbows and Spears. They never even showed us another character.

So effectively Range is like "PlayerCharacter001" for PoE2, it's like the star of the show. They probably use ranger first for doing everything and every balance situation and skill suggestion they ask "but how will this benefit ranger?" first.
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>>551047386
ascendany points are worth 5 passive points chuddie
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>>551037864
>but GGG usually has really good story content quality
Entire act 4 ends with insane asshole who almost destroyed his own tribe, "redeemed", instead of being killed or stoned to death by his own tribe like traditions dictate.
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>>551047386
its more 90% of nodes suck and do nothing while 10% are autotake.
if hulking form was titan's only ascendancy node its playrate would barely dip. bloodmage 15% base crit means all spell builds suck ass with gimped crit chance since they're all balanced around bloodmage existing
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>>551047520
>all spell builds suck ass with gimped crit chance since they're all balanced around bloodmage existing
that's a dark pattern
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>>551047421
Path of Exile isn't included in the upcoming Pringles promotion. Please get this image off our general they are not PoE related.
>>551047326
>The beast is buoyant.
I wonder what the downside to the node granting this was.
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>>551047520
crit was gimped because they didn't want people crit capping as easily as they do in poe1.
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>Chonormancer
>Time and duration based ascendancy
>Not a single node interacts with damage over time
>Time freeze node doesn't pause ailment timer or dot timer on enemies
Most obvious poo of all time
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>>551045795
Are you using explosive grenades?
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>>551047730
Idiot, GGG worked on that mechanic when D4 showed off it's time stop mechanic on the rogue.
They then worked on the monks mechanics when they played Wukong.
They worked on Rangers mechanics when they played Dragon's Dogma 2.
They worked on Druid's mechanics when Baldurs Gate 3 came out.
GGG haven't the nuts to make their own content because they're relying on someone else to show them the way.
Guarantee you that Marauder will play like God of War Axe dude
We won't get Shadow until Splinter Cell reboot or some shit comes out and they can have some xray vision stealth mechanic bullshit inserted into the game.
We don't get duelist until a sword game GGG can easily ripoff that isn't a heap of effort like souls is comes out.

GGG are hacks and are waiting for other devs games to release so they can get ideas. There is no vision. If there was truly an inspired, organic vision we'd have the characters by now.
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Are people still using WASD? Keyboard and mouse is so much better, especially with running.
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>>551047202
Hammer isn't that bad if you go shield wall, but quarterstaff seems to feel super shit to level with.
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>>551048657
WASD just because I can bind something on left click and using ranged stuff whilst moving feels much better.
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>>551048657
cringe!
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>>551048657

I mouse move cuz it's way comfier on summoner. Might even swap to controller for maximum comfy.
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>>551048312
In that case we know what the scion equivalent class will be: Tubgirl. It's unique ability will a channeled poo skill that inflicts self chaos damage
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>arbiter gets full health for phase 2
>suddenly every single streamer that played retard builds before dies to mechanics they never learned
i dont get why they dont want to learn everything about the game while its EA, even more so when its clear ggg is going to keep removing everything that skips boss phases.
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>>551048657
??? WASD is fucking great.
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>wasd is great!
>peak jeet hours
noticing
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The architect just keeps 1 tapping me, so fucking annoying
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>>551048975
>DA INDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAANS
i wonder what boogeyman you'll latch onto next
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>>551048657
im unc so controller for me
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>>551048657
nigga can't strafe
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Someone from here showed me their setup and their chair was absolutely torn up from their fat fucking body
Do a pushup or two instead of shitposting hard, /poeg/
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>>551049324
>Do a pushup or two instead
still not sure if this actually works
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>>551047520
>bloodmage 15% base crit means all spell builds suck ass with gimped crit chance since they're all balanced around bloodmage existing
think harder about this statement

>if hulking form was titan's only ascendancy node its playrate would barely dip.
titan's body armour node is extremely good, one of the best 2-cost nodes in game, to the point that armour builds are actually playable on titan and no one else. with the way armour actually works that node is 40% more armour on titan period. 15% more life is also a much better node than you'd think.
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>>551048657
I'm a controller chad bro.
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>>551048657
WASD is cool at first but is much more uncomfortable for actually using skills. If you have a skill on any key and not solely on your mouse it sucks
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>>551048852
because they change boss mechanics randomly every patch anyways, why bother learning them?
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>>551049426
just use your mmorpg mouse to do jonathan's combos bro
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>>551049426
something about WASD seems to attract alot of browns

I can't prove this, but something is up here
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I haven't even played poe2 this league and i'm still here, what the fuck am i doing
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>>551049426
>WASD is cool at first but is much more uncomfortable for actually using skills. If you have a skill on any key and not solely on your mouse it sucks

you're not playing poo two as jonathan intended to!!!
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>>551049426
Handlet
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>>551049557
welcome to hell
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>LIL' GUP!
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>>551049536
you joke but i do this unironically and it's great
also works in 1
>frostblink on 2
>shield charge on 1
>curse or similar on 3
>portal on 4
>main clear on m2
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SELL SELL SELL
PANIC SELL EVERYTHING RIGHT FUCKING NOW
IT'S FUCKING OVER
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How do I increase my boss damage as an entangle+thunderstorm druid? I do very well against everything except the bigger bosses
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>>551049557
>I haven't even played poe2 this league and i'm still here, what the fuck am i doing

this is our social media bro
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>>551049557
We're the frens we made along the way.
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>>551049701
>mfw I just learned that PoE1/2 routinely drop to 15k players or lower before boosting back up during leagues

>Dark Souls 3 hasn't had a single patch or update since 2017 and still has a constant 6k players
>Elden Ring hasn't dropped below 35k ever since it came out, infact it averages about 50k players constantly just on PC and everyone knows it's not getting any more content

Sure seems like the PoE audience isn't worth chasing and the souls base is much more stable. Jonathan was wrong to pull the plug last second and to cater to mazed PoE1 fags. All the souls chads were waiting to gift their game with a constant 100k players year round if they released with greatswords and no ranged cuck playstyles, but they squandered their hit.
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>>551049701
its so fucking low, what the fuck is happening
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>>551050042
July monthly average incoming
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>>551049557
I play both games and question why I even come here sometimes.
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>>551050217
Sometimes you need other people to remind you the game is dogshit so you don't get mazed.
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>>551049557
it's one of the best generals that doesn't have a bunch of weebshit spam
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>>551030613
Any helpers or suggestions for good clean filters? Something that brings it more inline with Diablo 2 is probably also nice, minus the sounds although that would be cool too I guess
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>>551050029
Just look at this.

Massive bumps for the release/expansion release, constant very slightly downward trend with minimal support. They don't need to add mtx and battlepass and challenge rewards every 3 months to keep them engaged. The game is great so they keep playing.
Fromsoft could make an expansion for Elden Ring every year for the next 10 years if they wanted to and utterly mog the fuck out of GGG in every fashion without having to be desperate skin selling sluts to do so.

Again, GGG fucked up not making PoE2 MORE souls like. The fact that they released with bows and spells being the focus was a major miss step. All the souls andys they lined up for early access launch were probably so confused when they booted into the game only to find pew pew characters and only 1 melee character being a terrible clunky bad negro man.
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>>551050029
>mfw I just learned that PoE1/2 routinely drop to 15k players or lower before boosting back up during leagues
newfag

>Dark Souls 3 hasn't had a single patch or update since 2017 and still has a constant 6k players
game is dead

>Elden Ring hasn't dropped below 35k ever since it came out, infact it averages about 50k players constantly just on PC and everyone knows it's not getting any more content
ultimate redditor game, last DLC was Nightrein May 30

>Jonathan was wrong to pull the plug last second and to cater to mazed PoE1 fags
Johnatroon and dev are grifter and literally cannot make a decent soulclone if their life depends on it.

All in all, you're a turbofaggot.
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Imagine being one of the 70k chinks, bots and mazed newfags still playing Poop 2.
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>>551050514
This graph is Elden Ring, just to be clear to any retards

>>551050562
Nightreign isn't DLC, it's a standalone game with it's own playercount, retard
Technically souls fans are currently divided between like 8 games and the fact that Dark Souls 2 and 3 still have 5k+ players says alot if PoE2 drops to nearly that at the end of each league
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>>551050627
50k bots atleast.

t. used to hang out with bot farmers.
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>>551050562
>last DLC was Nightrein
Uh oh, retard!
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>>551050698
>>551050658

>m-muh standalone waaaah

didn't play your ultimate redditor game, don't care.

>le epic dark soulz BUT open world!!11

normalniggers.
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>glory now gainable every 0.5s per enemy
>spear of solaris gains glory from shock now
>thunderstorm guarantees shock, instant full glory from every pack
wish me luck guys im making solaris into a clear build.
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>>551050627
Imagine being one of the dozen 45 year olds playing zoomfaggot cookieclicker
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>>551050767
normalfags don't play souls games, they play FIFA and COD and NBA2k.
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>>551050917
imagine still playing in standard instead of ruthless, the proper game mode if you want an ARPG
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>>551037593
we don't kill a single act boss in poe 2.
Sin killsteals Geonor
Asala killsteals jamaicaman
Doryani joins us
Karuiguy killsteals the excavation boss then joins us later after we beat him
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>>551050958
Time have changed.

Le epic gamers have finally latched on the latest trend called "dark soulz" through "le elden ring" and now theres no going back

>every game in the next decade will have elden ring DNA
>happened to Poo2
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>>551050958
souls games have been normiecore for years.
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I am glad Path of Exile 1 is dying because I have never met a fan of it that wasn't an insufferable faggot.
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>>551050958
ACTUALLY they play robloxkino and minecraftpeak
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>>551051201
This, but Poo 2
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>>551051201
>I am glad Path of Exile 1 is dying because I have never met a fan of it that wasn't an insufferable faggot.

That's where you're wrong bro.
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>>551051201
I'm a faggot but not insufferable
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>>551048657
It seems that it is easier to use skills while moving with wasd, like circling a boss while shooting arrows
I'm still using the old kb+mouse, wasd felt too different from dota and other arpg
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>>551051362
all faggots are insufferable. Repent sinfulnigger.
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>>551051237
>popular games of current year are wc3 custom maps of yesteryear
Nothing changes.
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>>551051201
>>551051362
>>551051306
1sissies and 2trannies KNEEL before doomchads and EoSbros
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>>551051147
WTF are you even talking about you tubtard? Souls games have been super popular for a decade and are FUN. BFR even loved them enough to put multiple souls enemies in poo1 and miyazaki responded by putting gladiator in ER. Jonapoo will NEVER get this level of reciprocated respect
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>>551048657
>>551051386
kb+m feels bad *because* the game is now designed around moving while attacking due to wasd. it feels slippery and janky now.
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>>551050767

Just gunna remind you, look at this graph again, asshole:
>>551050514
Fromsoftware didn't need to have dev diaries and apology videos and interviews with their loser devs and constant thumbnails of their founder saying sorry and skin packs and battlepass rewards to get people to play their videogame.
Elden Ring has had exactly 1 content update and that was the expansion. The game has an incredibly steady healthy playercount that will naturally diminish in time as it should since no game should be played forever, life goes on. New games are created for new experiences.

GGG's model of updating the one shit game (two shit games now) every 3 months to stop a decline to 15k measly players and keep a paltry 100k ish players for all their efforts is a worse model than just releasing a good game every 2 or 3 years like they do.
Elden Ring is also a more hardcore and gamer focused game than PoE/PoE2. You can play both of these games with 1 finger, and the game was ported to phones at exilecon and played from all people who tested it: exactly the same.
PoE is a casual game that has hardcore game comitment in terms of being a vampire of your time. It does not respect your time, it seeks for you to waste it.


GGG is literally on a downward trend and no one 10 years from now is going to care about the "red ball blue ball" genre.


>>551051147
>>551051160

What you call normies are just regular gamers. There are alot of them. To play a souls game requires you to be very good at videogames.
Because it's popular = normie does not work here. There are a mass of gamers on the planet who simply found their home with those games. It's still not normie in the same way God of War or Spiderman or Witcher is.
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>>551051587
tl;dr
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That reminds me, we were supposed to get poe mobile LMAO where did that go johnatroon?
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>>551051538
I'm on the winning team now
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>>551051587
poo1 will somehow, miraculously outlive poo2 5 years from now on.

screen cap this, niggers.
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>>551051763
When they played it at exilecon the phone was DYING and ziggy? said the phone was extremely hot lmao
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>>551051763
killed, probably
unless tencent has other plans
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>>551051587
>To play a souls game requires you to be very good at videogames.
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what big announcement do you think ggg is going to make when they come back to work? I'm thinking they'll formally instate 3 month cycles between new leagues for both games and they'll still treat poe1 like trash with subpar leagues while dedicating all their time to getting poo2 to launch 1.0 next year
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>>551051763
It's funny how much shit you people gave PoE mobile when it is exactly what this general seems to want: no campaign, just straight to maps.
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>>551052002
"Our message to Path of Exile players"

Johnatroon literally hates poo1 so much.
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>>551051587
>To play a souls game requires you to be very good at videogames.
Here your elden ring/sekiro streamer playing actual action game
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>>551051995
Poo1fags wouldn't get it, you have a meltdown everytime you need to do more than press a single button to explode the screen into loot confetti
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>>551051587
The biggest mind boggle is Grim Dawn making more money per individual than PoE. I think it sold about 8 million copies, plus the expansion, and the team is only 10ish people. If they split the money evenly, they each made about $3 million or some shit, and they still update the game despite it being a single player arpg simply because they enjoy it. Post current player counts all you want but that's a bigger success than most of GGG
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>>551052002
>while dedicating all their time to getting poe2 to launch 1.0 next year
We are on 0.4 year after early access, they won't release 6 massive content updates next year
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>>551052017
Sounds super fun.

Campaign is gay, boring and a giant waste of time.

If Johnatroon finally capitulate and make Poo2 a short session mapping game it could finally be saved.

Look around, how many popular AND surviving video games are LONG SESSION (4-8 hour) video games?

They're all 15-30 minutes session games now.
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>>551046623
no but seriously why the fuck are there always drawbacks to quite literally everything you do in the game?
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>>551051587
>Fromsoftware
>Elden Ring has had exactly 1 content update

Dark Souls came out broken as fuck, still broken never got fixed. Elden Ring and nightreign have dogshit abysmal netcode, they simply have a fanatical following that percieve bugs lags and crashes as additional difficulty challenge

>p2p connection to bangladesh lags and you get backstabbed across the entire map
>oooh it's the time itself breaking down from the curse
>So immersive, based Miyazaki

Souls games are the community's holy cow, people just decided that FromSoftware cannot be criticized.
>It lags
>shut up it's meant to lag
>there's a hole in the map
>that's for the speedrunners
Any other studio would get laughed out of existance for releasing a game like that. POE 2 is made to a much higher technical standard. it simply doesn't have a community that accepts literally anything.
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>>551052190
because it allows smart people to build around 'drawbacks' and make interesting builds.
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>>551052276
>higher technical standard
Nice servers, faGGGots.
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>>551052190
Because Jonathan has no fuckong idea what he's doing and thought the design choice of giving unique harsh downsides to build around should have been sprinkled everywhere. The result is you get an ES node that slows recharge, so you get recharge nodes to compensate, resulting in a net positive that still feels awful because you could have just given us the positive stats. Jonathan is woefully incompetent
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johnatroon can't seem to design RPG aspect of ARPG is my biggest concern.
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I can't tell whether this poison+bleed build is based or abysmal dogshit
I kinda wish I could ask him cause this looks fun
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>>551052417
>138 fps
Elden ring is locked at 60 and still freezes, usually when a massive AOE kills you.
Retard.
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btw you have to give up a tablet slot for deli mirrors or nothing drops, at all
even duo abyss difficulty farm is ass without a mirror
the deli problem is significantly worse than before because now a full 1/3 of your available juice slots are reserved for adding deli
great game we have here
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>>551052190
the vast majority of nodes and items don't have drawbacks, control freak sissies like yourself just shriek and shout and cry about the ones that do.
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>>551052179
>Look around, how many popular AND surviving video games are LONG SESSION (4-8 hour) video games?
Anon you don't HAVE to beat the campaign, or even a single act, in one sitting
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>>551037864
>GGG usually has really good story content quality
I think it's great that the mentally challenged can find something to enjoy in PoE.
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>>551052676
Still do have to spend 15+ hours to finally unlock the real game?

Nigga fuck that shit. I can barely tolerate poo1 6 hours campaign ONCE per league.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKDhAwOf55g

Rip djinn builds
Nerf incoming
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I enjoy the 15+ hours I spend in campaign in 2, but hate the 6+ hours I spend in 1.
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>>551052190
>why the fuck are there always drawbacks to quite literally everything you do in the game?

That's to torture and repel the auristics from the game.
POE 1 attracted too many autists to the community their retarded screeching derailed the entire game's development and turned into a joke.

The drawbacks are a masterful solution to the Autism problem.
A functioning healthy individual would look at
>+60% damage
>-15% speed
And relaize that taken together with a
>+speed
>-damage
the sum is still very powerful and a good deal.

An autist looks at a drawback and his brain shortcircuits
>I WANT BETTER NOT WORSE
> I NEEDPLUS NOT MINUS
They are incapable of cooping with a srawback throw a tantrum start screeching frothing and the ambulance takes them to the mental ward where they are locked up safely and away from the community.

This is what they learned after developing POE 1 for 10 years straight.
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>>551052669
I'm not just talking about the tree you dingdong.
>infusion mechanic
>spell totem requiring you to use charges
>charges inherently does nothing and no easy natural way to get them
>dealing zdps if you're not comboing
>ignite/magnitude/flammability bullshit
>limits
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So is the currency strat to ignore temple and do abyss?
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>>551053125
we say "retard" around here, you won't get banned or blocked for it, it's ok
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>>551052907
>Walks up to pack of 4 mobs
>Does his little rotation
>Walks 15 minutes to the next pack
This is the GGG ideal
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>>551053189
yep pretty much, great league jonatroon
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>>551053235
Lol why even have this leagues mechanic in the game then
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>>551052348
You mean like the drawback to life where you can't build any so the work around is to build blue life.
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>>551053219
Our new friend getting a little culture shock moving from Facebook

>>551053125
Welcome retard, you are here forever
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>>551053253
To give you a +10% attack speed buff you got after 30+ hours of RNG, which you will lose in 5 minutes after dying to invisible ground effects.
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>>551053253
because its jonatroons pet project and everyone had to yesman it to keep their jobs
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late bloomer here

how are crossbows this league?
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>both azmeri spirits and delerium make the mobs they affect easier currently because their difficulty scaling overrides the new effectiveness system
did these retards test anything at all?
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>>551053125
>mana
>spells require you to use mana
>inherently does nothing and needs investment to regenerate
>dealing zdps if no mana
You are retarded.
building the charges and expending them is fun.

Go play vampire survivors, you don't need to use any resources, no charges, no mana, you just stand in place, click the loot, do nothing and win.

Vampire Survivors is literally the perfect game for you.
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https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/pohx-shatter-tactician

is pohxs good? or is rues galvanic shart better
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I am sad this game is in this state
I am angry at them
I hope karma gets them for putting the game in this state
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>>551053403
>Go play vampire survivors, you don't need to use any resources, no charges, no mana, you just stand in place, click the loot, do nothing and win.

>Vampire Survivors is literally the perfect game for you.

Sounds more fun than whatever the fuck darksoulzexile hybrid shit in poo2.
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>WHEN A MARAKETHI WOMAN SPEAKS... I LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!
Druid is kinda cringe bros
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Is larry dslily
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>>551053189
depends how strong your character is
if you're a bloodmage comet cocker or a temporalis oracle chad, yes, deli + 2 abyss tablets can print a few div per map in tinks and the temple is a waste of time
but if you're playing some build with the kind of dps ggg expects you to have, temple is actually not terrible money for you
rush architects with neversink's strat, farm room upgrades and locks, and use them to pump sacrifice chambers to level 3 for cultivation artifacts and such
running it competently on a non-temporalis build should make you like ~5-10 div per hour id guess? so it depends if that's worth it to you or not.
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JONATROON
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>>551053189
you should run atziri when possible it's very worth the time invested. the room stacking crap sure you can ignore that takes actual effort.
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>>551053271
at similar gear levels, armor is stronger than ES right now.
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>>551053459
pretty sure jonatroon will be canned for this or at least silently walked off, its inexcusable when 0.1 was so hyped
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anyone elses mouse cursoer just slightly off when picking up loot? sometimes it just doesnt work
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>>551053572
>you should run atziri when possible it's very worth the time invested
in what sense
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What should you be aiming to overcap your resistances by to account for curses and debuffs? 60%?
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>>551053523
>Atziri is known for her deceit and lies
>BELIEV A'ELL WIMMIN
really, GGG?
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>>551053572
is it? i've done five atziri fights and haven't gotten shit from her chests
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>>551053639
Jonathan seems like he would be so terrible to work with, he can barely contain his butthurt when anyone asks a slightly unflattering or pointed question in interviews, you just KNOW he's a total raging cunt out of public eye when pushed on anything
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>>551053713
>What should you be aiming to overcap your resistances by to account for curses and debuffs? 60%?

just don't play those mods bro. its that easy bro.
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>>551053757
projecting a lil much there sis
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZdx_LHcGJo

Do fubbers not realize the guy rmts
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>>551054329
Fubgun does not need to RMT. He is a god gamer. Don't make me post his resume of videogame achievements at you again.
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>>551054413
Fubber detected
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>>551053757
>fat
>looks like a women sign of low testosterone
>smug face 24/7 sign of egotistical and pride
>answer interview like an asshole

yep. Poo2 future is in good hands.
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>>551053523
>>551053716
ruebros......
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>>551054329
all tradecore streamers blatantly rmt
but jungroan can just say his account got hacked yet again and all the redditors unironically believe it
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>>551054413
Let's see it
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>>551054586
If its not them his viewers RMT for him
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>>551053639
if the game wasn't such a success i could see that happening, sadly the game was incredibly well received and it's launch elevated the company into an industry leader.
>but skeet_jangle289 on reddit said "i think this game not very good and want to rather play Last Epoc." and that comment had almost 20 upvotes!
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>>551037441
Are there even reasons to play SSF? I mean - any incentive/reward? Because if you dislike trading you can just not trade in the common league.
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>>551054703
The challenge of it, mainly.
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are these items pricey?
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How much armour+evasion do I need to stop getting oneshot by Benedictus with one damage mod
All my rez is capped
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>>551054606
>>551054435
Challenger rank 80 in League of Legends
Never died in Elden Ring once
99/100 parses in FF14(shadowbringers)
99/100 parses in WoW(Cata/WoD/Legion)
Highest supporter in Diablo Immortal
One of the first 100 people to achieve lvl 100 in Diablo 4
World champion in Starcraft Brood War
Max in osrs
#1 speedrunner for groomer route in Deltarune
10 Mirrors in one day
Invented the Lightning Arrow Deadeye build
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>>551054914
*Smallest Dick
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>>551054914
Aurora Happy clears
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>>551054914
HOLY SHIT
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>>551054914
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>>551054914
>invented Lightning Arrow Dead Eye

I thought I invented Lightning Arrow Dead Eye??
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>>551054914
>99/100 parses in FF14(shadowbringers)
>99/100 parses in WoW(Cata/WoD/Legion)
Bad Player then
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>>551054703
After the league has died and my build is finally complete it lets me call people shitters for being tradies.
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>>551054776
>>551055279
To be honest I'm more interested about exclusive to that gamemode achievements.
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the amount of barely telegraphed one-hit attacks that you can only notice on replay is fucking infuriating. Like what the fuck not even dark souls bosses will one hit you, and no white mob needs to have that amount of power.
There's so much shit that will one hit you unless you specifically notice an animation happening from just a random non rare mob in a pack of like 15. Of course the game is going to die the second people start getting into maps if they design shit like that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQUUGhnyIk
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>>551054703
play ssf until you learn how to play the game and then you play the actual game hcssf
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now that temple is buffed what should I make my 2nd character? because fuck trying to salvage whatever this piece of shit temple is. wanna go fast, caster maybe. played minions and monk 0.1, monk + some other attacker every league since. suggest me something that's not comet or bow (but still gud). poeninja didn't give me any ideas
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>>551055327
just build 8000ES like a good player.
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>>551055475
Wolf Oracle
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>>551055326
>about exclusive to that gamemode achievements.
Listen my friend. If being able to type
>hcssf btw
Isn't enough for you then maybe don't play it. Typing that with our integrity intact is all we get for it.
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>>551055546
already played bear so i'd rather not shapeshift again
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>>551055571

>hcssf

>i play a cookie cutter tanky build (hc) that I found online that requires no specific items (ssf)
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>>551055327
POE 2 doesn't have oneshots. If you die you're bad.
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Is Siege Cascade as fun as it sounds?
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>>551054329
fubgun streams 24/7. you can literally splice his end of stream to the beginning of another one and you'll see the same number of currency.
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is paladin going to be a black woman?
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>>551055757
wrong general?
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>>551055630
>already played bear so i'd rather not shapeshift again

Then play plants oracle.
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>>551055757
trvke
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>>551054914
wtf, he's literally a gaming god
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>>551055475
you can play plants with either oracle or the new girl.
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>>551055782
no, there's few missing classes still and barely any females because jonatan is a barafag
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>>551055819
I was thinking about it, the plants look pretty cool. oracle or djinn though? not sure what oracle brings to the table but djinn is obviously very good
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>>551055898
neither poe game has a class called paladin and they never will
wrong general
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>>551055898
There's no missing female classes though
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>>551055249
Having to waste a support for remnants infuriates me. Infusions are so fucking dogshit you play caster and you have to throw yourself into the mobs to get your crumble of damage fuck you johnatan
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Go back to the showcases and poe2 demo videos from ~2023 and people were saying stuff like this, lol
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>>551055937
Uuuh, Phrecia??????
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>>551055965
It’d be one thing if caster’s got multiple buffs for picking up those infusions(maybe extra ES, move speed, etc… something that isn’t the boring ass +300% damage it currently is) but you just get subpar Pathfinder damage
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>>551056019
>Phrecia
Hardly know her
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>>551055937
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Paladin
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is gladiator going to be tied to swords or axes?
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>>551055898
All the remaining classes are male
>Duelist
>Shadow
>Templar
>Marauder
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>>551056191
Claws
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>>551056191
polearms (different from spears and also completely incompatible with all current skill gems)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw62uya-DD8
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I'm seeing some temporary minion nodes in the Druid/Templar area so I'm thinking that Dominating Blow is coming back.
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>>551056259
>>Duelist
Duelist is no more
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>>551055983
yikes
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>>551055926
i doubt you'll find anyone who's built both so it's hard to answer. oracle's main upside is the crit, the main downside is it's hard to get to CI.
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>>551056354
It literally says "Duelist" ingame retard
I have the artbook, some of the shit currently in the game conflicts with it
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Phrecia with bloodlines when?
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>>551056569
>It literally says "Duelist" ingame retard
Never fucked Piety.
Not my Duelist.
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>>551056774
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>>551055684
>just buy currency and immediately have 8000 ehp lol
oh okay
retard
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is it possible to do Armour+Evasion+Deflection or is that just gonna kill me more than hyperinvesting in one
poe1 logic tells me more layers = better but i know that doesn't apply to ES in 2
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>>551056925
armour doesn't do much for you unless you heavily invest
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>>551056612
Architect of Chaos Chaos Bloodline Meme Build
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>>551056925
you can do it as witch hunter because you'll have sorcery ward as your actual defense layer. otherwise it will be terrible and you'll die all the time to nothing.

the only good defensive attributes are some form of ES, or armour on titan. that's it, poe2.
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>>551057158
If that were true then Ranger wouldn't have utterly mogged both of the easy ES-stacking classes in terms of endgame playrate for two weeks straight
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>>551057205
you don't need defenses when you can kill stuff a screen away and bosses die before they finish their opening animations
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>>551057242
Sorc was doing that in 0.1 and Ranger was higher then too
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whats meta
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>>551057205
in what universe does ranger not play ES?
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>>551051306
How is Gaza TV not an insufferable faggot?
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>>551057417
Llmao
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>>551057417
he is not, he's just annoying because he's baiting donations hype trains all the time
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>>551056925
Armour-Evasion is genuinely awful as a defensive layer in POE2.
Armour scales is a very top heavy manner, so you need heavy investment into it before you start seeing value. Armour-ES builds have strong nodes on the tree to make up for this and ES in general is really good.
So naturally, you're probably thinking "well there's Armour-Evasion wheels on the tree to scale, so do I need to invest into those to make Armour-Evasion work?
Go ahead and take a look at the putrid, rotting landfill fodder they sharted onto the passive tree and tried to pass off as "Armour-Evasion" investment and you'll realize almost instantly why every Mercenary just goes full Evasion or Armour depending on build

Armour-Evasion on the tree is laughably bad
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>>551057037
>>551057158
So just evasion+deflection?
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>>551054914
you are meming but that's what he put under his stream
also begging for money
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>>551057561
HAHAHHAAH
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>>551057561
that's the joke anon
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/ourgirl/ is live. tune in
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>>551057519
no, that's also not viable. you have to go ES + evasion + optionally deflection, it's the only way to play the bottom right of the tree.
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>>551057205
>>551057289
these rangers?
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>poe2g
I actually believed this game died when I couldn't find the thread
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>>551057902
it did
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>>551057902
we moved to r/pathofexile2streamers lil melon
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also, the only reason ES+EV is even competitive with straight ES is ghost dance. without ghost dance it's just worse. this is why armour+ES is DOA, it did not get a broken spirit gem carrying the entire archetype, instead it got barkskin the worst spirit gem in the game.
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games loading shaders
again
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Life long caster, tried melee first time for druid...seriously...how do you do it? Affixes that i laughed at or didnt even see in action are totally destroying me

For real, time bubble, shades on floor, volotile plants attached to melee rares, immune to physical to even getting body blocked by mobs to even the smallest of freeze effects.

You cant play like souls, you cant iframe role or anything, you cant even roll really due to the fear of being tripped for holding it down too long....

In spite of my frustuation...I have mad respec for all of you getting to end game with melee
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>>551058213
>mad respec
hehehehehehe
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>>551058202
lol
lmao even
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>>551058213
sissy ass bitch stick to girl classes
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Jonathan has handcuffed you to the tub and says you're not allowed to leave until you fix melee. You have 5 minutes before the tub overflows and drowns you.
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>>551057307
Poisonburst PF
Grenade anything
Shapeshift skills are also very strong but clunky and frustrating to play
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>>551058723
Kill every single person with a Warrior in the current league.
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>>551058789
>Grenade anything
playing grenade PF right now and can confirm it's fun as fuck and probably pretty good once i figure out how to stop dying to a stiff breeze
would not feel safe stepping into simu with it though
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>>551058723
Switch melee and ranged being able to move while attacking
Give 2h weapons base block chance
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You manipulative whore! How dare you abandon me! After! All! I've! Given! You!
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>>551058965
goodbye, "supporter"!
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comfy poe2sesh while its snowing outside
love december leagues
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xbow double weapon tech always resets every map

this is annoying
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>>551058723
Rolling melee switches the camera to 3rd person and gives you lock on. Also, the soundtrack is replaced with HEEEAAAAAAAH-HOOH-HEEH-HEEH-HOO and BLIM-BLIM-BLOM
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>>551058789
>Poisonburst PF
does it play like la lr?
since its poison/ a dot it should be a bit more finnicky right
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When does xbow stop being so clunky with reloading all the damn time
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>>551060210
never, youre supposed spam grenades and hope they dont miss
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>>551060370
Are you kidding me
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>>551054329
what does he look like? i can't stand his voice. it's such nasally nerdslop like I cannot accept he looks anything other than a fat greasy slob
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>>551060518
hes a brotha
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>>551060518
>>551060551
fubs black?
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>>551056295
>That first comment
>All the mad people responding
Kek good job.
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https://streamable.com/8nbg7y
https://streamable.com/8nbg7y
https://streamable.com/8nbg7y
POO1 COULD NEVER PRODUCE SUCH KINO
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>>551060565
blacks dont play arpgs
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https://www.twitch.tv/paak_hc/clip/TsundereEnchantingBibimbapHeyGirl-j_fxuIiq3XMMYl2D
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>>551060657
>>551060627
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>>551060840
hes honorary white
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also dont forget ROCKETMAN who DESTROYED TRI
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>>551060627
i really thought people would be tired of nigger humor by now
>let me do something normal people do but make caveman noises over it
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>>551061046
you must really be miserable
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>>551060627
grim.
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>>551046016
Wasn't Tarkov in EA for like 8 years or something?
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The mgs2 raiden dodge
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>>551037759
based serafinowicz poster
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>>551037759
Terrible suggestion.
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whatever happened with the promise jonathan made after 0.2 about recording himself play the new classes and teaching us how to play it?!
another lie to the pile
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>>551061674
he said that he talked about it with kripp and kripp said it would be a bad idea and talked him out of this
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>>551061751
It's funny that Jonathan is so autistic and has such an ego that he didn't recognize what a terrible idea it would've been immediately.
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Can someone check how much arjuns medal is on the exchange?
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>>551061751
>talked about it with kripp
doubt.jpg
kripp was chris's guy, if anything it was probably quin
>it would be a bad idea and talked him out of this
probably afraid of looking like a retarded fat cunt like those 2 bitches from d4.
jonatroon is all bark and no bite, fucking fat fuck faggot
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>>551061674
We already had his video telling us that huntress was designed to switch between melee and range combat.
But all builds just skipping all nodes that would give bonus to it, and best way to play as her it just spamming lightning spear
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>>551061751
kripp saves poe once again...
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>>551061850
>https://poe.ninja/poe2/economy/vaal/lineage-support-gems
VROOM! Here comes the airplane, anon! Open up!
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>>551061942
Huntress was actually fine if you played this way
Druid though... you just can't play a hybrid attacker spell caster
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>>551062021
T-thanks master
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>>551044350
>YO, Blood Mage?!
>look inside
>Nothing thematic inside other than globes of blood

Sasuga.
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>>551062168
I like how you think it'd pair well with the Bone Spells thematically, but then you realize those skills have a built-in flat 15% crit already which makes the spell crit ascendancy completely redundant.
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i want to RUSH the campaign
what build do i play as
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>>551062343
twinked out minions are super underrated, but grenades or EDC are probably the most popular campaign rushers.
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me? i skipped the league launch and after all the pre-christmas patches are out, ill roll disciple of varashta in HCSSF and ENJOY
thanks for betatesting
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>>551062168
>>Nothing thematic inside other than globes of blood
>Cast spells with life (blood)
>Lstack more life for more damage
>the more life(blood) you have the more damage you deal
>slurp the enemy blood
>and cause bleeding

POE 2 is very smart to avoid locking the ascendancied into specific builds like Chieftain that basically exists just for RF (and people build templar instead)
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>Druid is the first furry species in the PoE universe
We are going to have tons of furry porn when PoE2 leaves its EA
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>>551062752
who cares about this shit? all autists are playing someone's else build by following step by step guide
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>>551062989
We won't
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>>551062656
>disciple of
Uh that build was features just today it will get nerfed / deleted
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To begin, build up the enemies’ stink meter. While doing so, also use your support fart dash skill to build up several poo charges (as you will be using these later)
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>una
>Lioneye track
>she sings
wtf? this is new
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>>551054329
um no sweaty his viewers RMT and then "trade" him stuff, he does not RMT.
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>>551060518
he's asian. he speaks English very well, and was likely raised with it alongside his native language, but if you listen to him for long enough you can catch him on some common asian-centric ESL mistakes in his pronunciation
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>>551060518
He's 100% Asian. He's from California where a lot of Asians in the US reside and he's buddies with people like Jung and Rue, etc and creeps on Bob5.
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I only watch Asian PoE streamers. They know how to put on a show, don't take themselves too seriously, and are still true hardcore gamers.
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>>551058789
>Poisonburst PF
Is fubos the only guide there is for this shit?
I
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>>551062278
>blood mage
>bone spells
ummm?
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>>551063837
Why dont they live in Asia land with the other squint eyes?
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>>551063184
wow thats crazy, how does this pertain to the current league/patch tho?
also >implying ill just steal a softcuck botw like a complete pleb instead of rolling my own
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https://youtu.be/Yw8cJ83FZd8

JONATHAAAAAN
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>>551064208
just use poeninja like an actual human being instead of reading streamslop """guides"""
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Am I meant to be able to respawn and continue the final Vessel of Kulemak fight from where it left off, or did my fight bug and let me brute force through it?
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>>551062752
>POE 2 is very smart to avoid locking the ascendancied
Yes they've done an excellent job with them i just got to laugh at some at the dumbasses who wanted a designated acendancy for each shapeshift form.
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>>551062752
The tree / ascendancies having low power is the biggest complaint though.
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https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/whirling-slash-twister-blast-through-the-campaign

new TECH
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i dont understand GGG, the Ascendancies are made for you to be as open as possible to allow all possibilities of builds to be made, then you get to the druid wolf for for example and you have to lunar assault > shred(when frozen) > cross slash. you HAVE to do this for damage there is no other so called combo game you are forced into 1 combo thats it no ifs or buts this is a real fucking problem and hinders build creation imo, the only way this will get fixed is if they spam create new skill gems but thats after 1.0
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>>551064917
Why would I blast campaign to get to no endgame?
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>>551065003
The real endgame is complaining about it
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>he posts DNA whilst complaining about PoE
Pick a struggle bro.
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>>551064921
i love gacha games
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>>551065192
how many mystery boxes did you buy?
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>>551064657
You're meant to be able to respawn but it can bug out and trip out and cockblock you.
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Hey
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>>551065337
The vessel ended up near the respawn so I just kept respawning and tickling away until it died.
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>>551065381
hey travicfaggit
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>>551065332
poe2 cosmetics are cringe
rolling the 0.3% banner for the latest .png is based
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>google poe2wiki
>ggg hosted wiki is not even in search results
lmao
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>>551054914
Certified FLASH post
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Quintessential path of exile experience
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>>551064921
>you HAVE to do this for damage
Because just holding the shred button for hours straight would be so fucking boring it could as well be POE1 boneshatter.

I played molten strike of zenith juggernaut and it reall was just holding one button forever. GGG really don't want to make POE 1 again. (and they are right)

Having said that turn your fucking brain on. You HAVE TO SHRED? You literally can't do anything else?
What's stopping you from going freeze into perfect strike and HOTG finisher? Flame breath?

>Lunar assault until 80% freeze
>Arctic howl with deep freeze
>perfect strike with armor break and +5 all damage on broken
>HOTG with consume freeze, consume break, leverage, brutality, heft
>Your ascendancy guarantees a crit

Hell you know what? Oracle has the fucking bow nodes. Go perfect dtrike into bleed snipe.
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>>551064921
I think that having a mix of more locked playstyles that feels very good gameplay wise and more obscure shit is good for the game. GGG is aiming for a more curated experience for 1.0 so they can hook as many players as possible. Obviously we'll be getting new shit every league which will build complexity
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I AM

STARTING A PATHFINDER POISON

I WILL

FOLLOW FUBBIES GUIDE
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>>551065512
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>>551065615
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>551065496
true
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>>551065673
but im a shitter anon i barely can use my brain to advance a build beyond act 2
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>>551065645
i said google but looking at your image im wondering how google is still most used engine
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I'm so fucking jaded it's unreal. The game is so fucking ass right now. Fucking bugged atlas nodes ruined my day.
>Do the humiliation ritual of "following the wisps" to the unique map that drops unique supports
>Have to redo half the maps I already did to path to the first wisp map WHICH IS ALREADY FUCKING CANCEROUS BULLSHIT
>The last wisp lands on the fucking unique map itself which is inaccessible until you activate all the stones
>Time wasted

what the fuck were they thinking? Do they even test anything?
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>>551065496
oh you meant the image i posted, its not a gacha its anime warframe you earn characters and weapons for free, its "gacha" is for a outfit and you buy cosmetics only thats it, very similar to poe's mystery boxes if you think about it

>>551065582
i dont think being forced into 1 combo build for everyone who is playing wolf for example is complexity, i think to the d4 spiritborn class and its the same shit exact same class tree at if you choose 1 form you are stuck with a couple skills the main difference is you have to do that combo i spoke of its pretty shit on the face of it with no build diversity

>>551065560
i dont mind having combo's i mind being forced into 1 combo thats the issue do you get the point im making here?
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>>551065932
The game has 0 (zero) QA. I found 2 different bugged supports already. One of them has been reported as bugged since August.
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>2 divs in a vault of kamasa
why do I never get that on league start
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>>551055672
mayhaps dear retard but you can't even do that
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>>551066034
because vaults of kamasa can only be found near the stone citadels
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haven't played frostwall since 0.1, do I still need to keep it low level for easy shatters?
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>>551065874
Google is literally trash. You search for a fucking website and it vomits up a disgusting mess of videos, Q&As that no one asked for, images at the top, bottom, right, and in between. I can't even imagine if there are ads on top of that. Give up on google, bro, do it for your brain.
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>the stinky dreads a hcssf achievment
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>>551065560
>Because just holding the shred button for hours straight would be so fucking boring
Hey, one button gameplay worked great for amazon...
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>>551065932
>Have to redo half the maps I already did
that's the worse trash and if that happens I just skip it
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>>551065938
>i dont mind having combo's i mind being forced into 1 combo thats the issue do you get the point im making here?

Give the game time they just don't have enought skills and weapons to combine. There's 4 INTENDED playstiles with Druind and the entire sandbox system for you to cook bullshit.

Right now Wolf druid is actually bad. It's fun but it's core relies on freezing the boss and the bosses have anti-freeze mechanics. Even if you doe everything right you will take off 60% of the bosses' HP and then literally just wait for it's anti-freeze to expire.

Yeah it's a bit of a mess.
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>>551066034
because you put low rarity of items found waystones in your league start vaults of kamasas and now you put a high tier one with good mods.
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yo is anyone still playing? I want to start a character now, i missed league launch
if no one's playing there's no point though
t. tradie who's too retarded for ssf
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I think Witch is attractive
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>>551066975
poe1s yea
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Game has gone downhill since Pekora abandoned us
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>>551041969
cope
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>>551067189
who?
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>>551066269
these days i only ever use google to search for certain websites when i dont quite remember what was its full address(failed here) or unironically as a search engine for reddit...
it really is funny how the one thing they have been known for is border unusable now and they didnt spare search function on youtube either
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>>551067189
Rushia will save us
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>>551067290
Uhm most watched youtube woman in the world...? Hello?
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>>551067370
...who?
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>>551066928
with async trade you can start playing whenever you want
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>>551066975
Ranger > Witch > Sorc > Huntress
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>>551067290
>anon is in the denial stage of grief
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>>551067643
>Ranger
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>>551067370
>woman
why do people call troon toons woman?
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>finding good maps on your atlas depends on how good you are at where's valdo
yuge "gameplay"
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>>551067809
because the only actual troon around here is you
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>>551067643
why are you like this?
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I still havent gotten to atziri.
I get like 1 path every 6 maps, and most the time is just left or right.
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>>551067992
you seem upset about getting called out.
you ok?
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>the hardest part of poo2 is staying awake through the slog of a campaign
why did they make this game again?
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>>551068142
Use. The. Mega. Thread.
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>>551068250
i am, faggot
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the game is easy
if you are having a hard time it's because you are a stubborn brainlet who thinks he knows better

video games are toys, if you aren't having fun go do something else
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this game is big shit.
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>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx30dMIZH0A
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holy fucking shit why is the temple so awful, i havent been able to fight atziri yet because every fucking time im about to reach her, the way disappears and im not getting path tiles
I just want to kill her and drop the league
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>>551068432
>t3 arbiter
>with 4m hp
nice try faggot, now kill yourself
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>>551068142
its just 6h, anon
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Chris won
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>>551068438
You think you are frustrated now but wait until you die to her and and have to redo the temple path
It happened to me, I started doing blue maps and just rushing the boss and vaal platform
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>>551068546
this post is extremely low quality
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ONE BRAINCELL LEFT STATUS: UTTERLY RAVAGED
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>complete first expedition in maps
>talk to Dannig and receive expedition tablets
>finish the map and move on to the next without thinking about it
>notice I've got a quest to talk to Dannig to get the book that gives expedition tree points
>run expeditions until I encounter Dannig again
>talk to him
>nothing happens
>quest still active
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>>551069315
Put him in your hideout and talk to him there
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AHEM! Reminder:

Zooming is good.
Screen explosion is good.
Doing damage is good.
Short encounters are good.
Gear that reduces damage taken to trivial values is good.

Rolling is gay.
Blocking is gay.
Trudging is gay.
Dodging is gay.
Iframes are gay.
Dork Rolls is gay.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
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The new DR for bosses upon spawning is shit and I hope they revert it.
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>>551069463
problems with only one solution enforced by the developers good

allowing creativity in solving problems bad
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>>551068802
Escaping the maze is not an easy feat.
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>>551069463
FACTRIPPLE
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SPIDER WEB CAPTCHA SHIT
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what's the minimum level required to use greater and perfect jeweler's?
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Is there anywhere to discuss this game that isn't mostly complaints?
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>>551069531
gladiator >>> shadow >> mercenary > warrior > druid
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ngl I had more fun playing d4 than poo2. I dropped poo2 at lvl 93 I simply cba with this trash temple shit and no end game changes.
d4 has no end game and no character depth but it's fun and fast. looks nice too, poo2 is just a drab.
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>t6 maps and t15 maps feel exactly the same
hmmmmmmm what happened here
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>>551052348
Name one such unique build you have made
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>>551069798
vtuber chats
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>>551069798
discord
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>>551069798
r/pathofexile2builds
global 1
guild chat
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>>551069587

Yes. "Creativity" is something sad and retarded. A consolation prize for the proles.
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>>551069798
no, every place with poe2 players also has bunch of poo1 players who just poo everywhere because they hate the game for existing
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when is 0.5?
is 0.5 going to have a new class or just a shitty endgame rework?
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How do you even solve the square peg - square hole, round peg - round hole problem in a creative way? insert the squre peg in the round hole and call it creative?
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>>551070203
I go do something else since im not a toddler.
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Saying an ARPG needs engaging gameplay is like saying a soulslike needs complex and deep character building and crafting systems, as well as an endgame grind.
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>2-3 divs per HOUR
this is jonathan's target audience
fucking G R I M
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>>551069108
kek
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any pf in chat
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>change gamma
>freeze
>this
huh
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>>551070502
sounds right for casual play
not everyone is a retarded sperg shitsocking this game in a 5 man with a manager in the background preparing the daily farm rotation

playing like that is probably why you hate the game (and yourself)
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>>551070502
I don't even know how people do that much lmao i can't say i even make 2-3 in a day of just fuckin' around on maps, or maybe i'm vastly underestimating the price of the stuff i bring home in cheap currency, random chaos, div cards, and lifeforce. I gotta get some divs for a Sublime Vision and I have no idea when it's gonna happen
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still in early access btw so the game is actually supposed to be broken and anti-fun
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>>551071120
>get spoonfed mageblood and multiple hundred div items
>cant farm more than 2 div per day
take off the tripcode and fuck off
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>>551070051
probably in april.
i think 0.5 will just be endgame rework. this will be enough to make shills cope in overdrive and jonathan wants 2 successful leagues before 1.0 he already pretty much said that duelist and act 6 will be released alongside 1.0 and shadow has nothing in the datamine so we will get act 5, marauder and templar likely with 0.6
this would also line up with jonathans odd response regarding 1.0 release ("i hope its before the end of 2026") meaning that 1.0 will be around the end of 2026 after 2 more leagues.
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>>551070430
>Saying an ARPG needs engaging gameplay is like saying a soulslike needs complex and deep character building and crafting systems, as well as an endgame grind.

Every GAME needs GAMEplay.
If the game doesnt have GAMEplay you don't have a game, you have a spreadsheet. You might as well just play POB and calculator, you already know what your div/h is going to be you don't even need to play really.

There are different types of gameplay, but the local retards are asking for literally no gameplay
>just let me hold one button and win
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>>551065560
Other than the fact that hotg relies on stun for glory and you cannot stun a frozen target? Or the fact that perfect strike is a dogshit skill?

Absolutely nothing I guess
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>>551070502
>12 hours a day
>Income
Is this a job?
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hey guys I made a cool wallpaper if you're into this game
let me know if you enjoyed it and used it
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>>551068683
yea just 6h per act.



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