Previous: >>551027916>Part 2 Final Chapter:▶Requirements: Clear OC IV.▶After clearing the second part you will be able to access the raid.▶Raid schedule for Tuesday, December 23rd, 18:00 JST.-Grand Score's effects will be available for some main quests/raids.-The attack power of the servants will increase according to their bond level (up to level 10). ▶NEW The period to receive 1000 Saint Quartz has been extended until December 31 if you clear OC IV.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter/>Part 2 Final Chapter Pre-Opening Campaign:●December 10~31 JST.▶All Servants:-Double the EXP when strengthening.-Chances of getting a Great/Super Success will▶Limited Master missions: 23 Stargazer's Teapots, 23 Golden Apples,12 Beast's Footprints and 5 Compass of Retrospection.▶Every servant will have 50% NP Charge at the start of any Main quest.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter_cp/>All Servants PU summon:●December 10~31 JST.▶Every Servant of FGO will be on rotation for the rest of December.▶Saber, Archer and Lancer Class:-26~27 JST.▶Rider, Caster, Assassin and Berserker Class:-22~23 and 28~29 JST.▶Extra Class:-24~25 and 30~31 JST.▶Artoria Pendragon (Lily), Oda Nobukatsu, Mary Anning, Habetrotand Kishinami Hakuno (M/F) will be featured in the FP gacha.https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_all_pu/>/fgog/ Friendlist form and spreadsheet (2025):https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1leQ09m5klFajbCcededkANJfeMiAmVz-PbCI_r7xyXc/edit?usp=sharing>Utility links:https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
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Olga hate
>it's not that big
What are your genuine criticisms and dislikes of FGO's finale
>>551053471DEUS EX MACHINAthe servant
>>551053591The fact that it's not over yet
https://x.com/fusetter/status/2003001944567386545 fusetter acknowledged sudden spike in traffic due to FGO
>>551053591"it insists on itself"
>>551053591>What are your genuine criticisms and dislikes of FGO's finaleFuyuki is utterly and completely pointlessIt's too short. It revealed a lot but there's also a lot that at this rate will be left unsaidIf Sion really is a deus ex machina to deny the reset and go into part 3 she needed a better build up
>>551053591The fact that it’s a bunch of timegates and wordswordswords as though 5 years of stalling wasn’t enough time to progress to this shit organically
>>551053591It looks like it was written by an anon
>>551053551shut up minority
>it wasn't a fucking stickNAAAAAASSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUU
>>551053791More like 7-8 years
>throwaway female who gets passed over by everyone else>treated nicely by the MC a few times>she clings to that moment in time as a tiny ray of hope, replaying it over and over>split into separate aspects, at least one of which is a villainess who provokes and torments the MC but has moments of lucidity and vulnerabilityare you ready to clap?
>>551053591everything seems to be the strung of a schizo to connect all the plot points that been opened so far. regarless of how little sense it makes >We captured ALL Galaxies and sealed them inside a forest of Fantasy Tree!!!
Was LB6 actually a fluke? The game has never even gotten close to that level of quality again
>>551053889>We captured ALL Galaxies and sealed them inside a forest of Fantasy Tree!!!Grr... Earthling...
>551013354>Somehow princess connect is fumbling harder than FGO right nowFumbling is following up to years of build up and give one of the main girls a power up temporary form? GBF, FGO and Priconne are the only gacha with a 7+ year long main story worth a damn to read
>Olgafags wonBut who lost?
>>551053886>at least one of which is a villainess who provokes and torments the MCI mean...sorta? She shows up as the big bad, doesn't really do anything for a really long time, then gets bonked into amnesia and goes on exciting dinosaur soccer adventures with you, then dies.>are you ready to clap?Yes. I'm easy.
lol
>GBF>main story worth a damn readC'mon now
Marisbilly had the right idea but the wrong execution
Reset retcon ending is cominf!Gudacucks! Your tears will be delicious! We finally return to the good old days before the gacha shit and catering to incels!
We're going to have a happy ending, right?
>>551053591It basically tells us we just wasted two years of our lives meandering on the Bleached Earth, going to Antarctica only to find nothing, when we could've just reentered Fuyuki to open up an exploit leading to Chaldeas in the first place.This whole thing feels like it is written long before, and the Ordeal Calls are a complete afterthought.
>>551054140everyone always have the "right idea" when they want to "protect everything" on a mass scale. the execution is always Bad. even fucking Emiya and Kiritsugu fucked this up.
>>551053886BB hakuno is cute and canon
>>551053582>no gag scowl face0/10
>We
>>551054165>>551054248Is this a desperate cry for help because you cope without FGO your life will get better? I'm glad this game existing gave you terminal brain damage, thankfully it will continue to do so.
>>551053938LB6 was written with a beginning, middle, and an end.You can't say the same about Part 2 as a whole.Having a "finale" chapter doesn't really hit the same way when the past 7 years has been padded to shit and back with pointless filler. Some chapters are complete time-wasters, you could cut 80% of LB2 and OC1 and lose absolutely nothing in the grand scale of the overall story. Then you have LB5 and OC3 where the overarching plot is so fucking retarded that it actively hurts the bigger picture.
>>551054189Also we lost Avengers and Rulers for no reason. We didn't even need to do the Ordeal Calls in the first place. We could've just asked Levlomon nicely to TP us to Fuyuki, then use that to rat ourselves into Chaldeas and do the exact same thing we're doing now except we'll have the Avengers and Rulers backing us up too in that case. Now they're gone for no fucking reason at all and can't back us up anymore meaning we've lost a significant portion of our fighting force for literally no reward. All because Levlomon gaslighted us into thinking we need to do the Ordeal Calls to get into Antarctica when there's absolutely nothing in Antarctica except autism trees.
>>5510535912 timegates is kind of stupid, should have been 1 AT MOST and the raids should start today
>>551054351wus
>>551054371>Some chapters are complete time-wastersWhat were the worst chapters overall?
I just wanna have sex with aliens is that too much to ask for?
Its going to be fun seeing the cries of horror as FGO retcon itself and Gudacucks incels reduced to nothing as all the servants forget about them
>>551054561I'd take 10 Septems over a single Ordeal Stall
>>551054046>gbfYou can't be serious
>>551054189>It basically tells us we just wasted two years of our lives meandering on the Bleached Earth, going to Antarctica only to find nothing, when we could've just reentered Fuyuki to open up an exploit leading to Chaldeas in the first place.That has been the case since the start of part 2, the whole prologue was so that we couldn't just rayshift to fuyuki
>We have tourists who have never read the OCs argue about their relevance using just surface level judgementTruly the Moneybillis of our time
>>551054181Yes, but it might be a reset, so a """"happy""" ending.
>>551054561LB2, LB3, most of Olympus, Heian, most of Traum and the entirety of OC
>>551054625The Shirou one is funnier.
>>551054746Nasu himself called them filler Aniplexbro
>>551054790>most of Traum and the entirety of OCWrong
>>551054371>every LB includes significant screentime for Koyanskaya>she winds up being completely irrelevant because Nasu had nothing planned beyond deliberately subverting expectations with an asspull
Which do you think will be the soundtrack for final battle?Gyakko or yakudou?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJwrxGy_CpEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhNXNDrNbU
>>551054371>80%Even worse, you could literally cut out entire chapters without hurting the grand scale of the story. LB3, OC1, OC3, Tunguska, Heian Mandala can be completely cut out and it wouldn't affect any of the plot beats being paddled in the finale right now at all. Not one fucking bit. Even LB6, as good as the story was, can mostly be cut since the only key takeaway from it was that they got the Holy Sword. The only story chapters that need to be kept mostly intact for the sake of this finale as LB5 (for U-Olga intro and Levlomon intro), LB7 (for Chaldeas reveal and Fantasy Tree lore) and the Stellar Marie fight (for cosmos lore). Pretty much nothing other than that came into play in the finale and we know that the text we got yesterday and today are like 70% of the finale so it's very unlikely we're getting any additional plot beats added after the raids anyways.
The final redpill is that Tsukihime was always better
>>551054561Septem, London, LB2, LB3, Atlantis, Heian, OC1
>>551055005OC1 is extremely important since it serves as a basic way to understand Olga being split into 3, a "spirit" taking over a system and serves as the main culprit of Sion possibly failing in her betrayal or specularly getting the strength to carry out her mission.
>>551054708>>551054417Mashu got a line claiming that the way back to Fuyuki was blocked all this time, that the "file was still there, but corrupted, so we couldn't access it" and that they needed Solomon physically in antarctica to reopen the wayEven though a bunch of servant intermissions have you ley shifting back there
>>551054974Obviously Gyakkou. This is literally the 'Save Olga' chapter and Gyakkou is the 'Waaaaah I'm being tortured in a lab, please feel bad for me' song.
>>551054910No but thanks for the answer lol
When did you realize /fgog/ that most of part 2 was filler?
>>551055114It's not, read the lyrics until the end song. It's Olga's song, but it's a comeback song.
>>551054974They'll finally get to use this soundtrack, it's been datamined long ago:https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32981667
>>551055234Later than I should have
>終章に至るまで真意に誰も気づけなかったnips acting as if gyakko being olga's song is a huge reveal made me realize i'm way too obsessed with this game. i called it day 1.
>>551055234>most of part 2Most of FGO in its entirety.
>reset ending>salaryman ending>death ending>anything but a blatant wish fulfillment endingWhy the fuck are you playing FGO if you haven't read any other TM release
>>551055308>https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32981667This is so shit.
>>551054625>"Gudacucks incels" >Got insecure by a ritual poster
>>551055402What do you mean? Explain.
>>551055401There are too many characters to give you a wish fulfilment ending.
New MC is inevitable
>Lev (un anillo) literally tanked SEVEN supernova explosions without an issue from Chaldeaslollmao even
You're shitposting for nothing since none of what you're saying is going to happen
Gudacels… you’re all going to McDonalds soon
Break the silence and cross the barrier; run to that dazzling other side.Baptism of rain and a miry road – bathe in the backlight and be covered in mud.I am here.I run to you; just a little closer and my fingers will touch you – and then, the future I wanted to choose…It's a comeback song, not just tragic. It's about fighting back.
>He's been shitposting for nearly 10 hours straight
>>551053471So, what was the "Truth that must be revealed at the right moment"? Just him dropping in to reveal Beast VII seems a bit too shallow.
>>551055610Well, duh, just one of Solomon's rings give you more powerful than anything known universe. It's why Goetia was pissed at Solomon not doing anything when he had all ten rings and could've change the world, the entire fucking universe on a single whim. They're like the Infinity Gems, except somehow far more OP.
>>551054625WE WON
Is she the best?
>>551055343I don't think that's strange. The game could only grow so big because it attracted a lot of casual gamers. Most people aren't fanatics.Although that brings to mind how much more confusing this ending must seem to people who only pay attention casually. Mainly because so much context and elucidating details are buried in other games, unadvertised manga series that concluded years ago, irregular blog posts from Nasu, magazine interviews, worldbuilding from obscure sourcebooks published over twenty years ago, etc. Someone who only read Fuyuki on release or, for some reason, only watched First Order, would not only be underprepared for taking in all the new info being dumped in the finale, they might actually be misinformed in some respects since Nasu decided to retroactively change the original script to better fit his evolving idea of what it should be like.This is the authentic TM experience and it kinda sucks tbqh.
>>551055714That your world is a Losrbelt.
>>551055112>servant intermissionsThose probably went the way of the kitchen crew. I mean Angry Mango seemed to believe that the shadows were connected to him, when they very clearly weren't. Hillariously enough, Demiya's seems to be pretty fitting, since it involved fighting a hollow clone of him, albeit less in the sense that its just a clone from his fucked up self, rather than literally hollow.
You wanna know how to end or win an argument prematurely on 4chan? Just say the word "Explain." Because 99.9% of the time as I discovered, if you say that buzzword, they just won't bother. Most often than not likely because they can't actually explain.
>>551055803Yes.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuxL121gwN8&t=4s>the song was all about OlgaMashu LOST
Anyone going to skip the raids? I'm just not feeling it.
>>551055915Explain
>>551055823Ok, but that's not a truth that Guda revealed, that's something the bad guy told them.
>12/23 is when the extra class banners come back>also the time when something is happening in the storyI'm literally on my knees right now.
>>551055343>i called it day 1.Proofs, smartass?
I really hope what we just fought yesterday isn't the whole thing.Hopefully, there are more forms, including a humanoid form, a gigantic beastly form and a Marisbury-controlled/soul final form we have to get through that we have to wait because of that timelock that is probably deliberate so that the conclusion won't come until between December 26 to 31.
>>551055805Chat GPT ahh post :skullemoji: :skullemoji: :skullemoji:
Biased fucker.
>>551055963I’m skipping them to spite moneybillsLittle shit thinks he can make this finale hype like the time temple just because he copied the basic idea
>>551055967Except in those cases, where they just ironically post shit like this just to be assholes
>>551053591The retard after raid battle non spoilerguideline.
I really wonder why things had to be like this.Why can't things just be good and proper and nice?It's really frustrating things couldn't be good. It just feels bad. I'm not even upset anymore. I just feel bad.
>>551056156As expected typical 4chan behavior
>>551055915wdym explain? I am right, there's here nothing to explain
>>551056213Stories just can't be as good as they can be when delivered in a gacha format and when the profits outweigh everything else
You shouldn't have wasted all your apples on the Grand Duels when you know all those additional class cookies you farmed won't do jack shit and that there's gonna be raids in the Solomon-esque Part 2 finale and a second lotto for this year.
>>551056183Who cares lol
>>551056009>not being permanently on the knees All we need now is GIANT OLGA for peak Nasu kino
>>551056359giant olga with a vore NP
>>551056084Here, use this in the future.
Why did they design Aoko so poorly in terms of gameplay
So most of us have completed our grand score. What will our excess grand score dust do?
>>551056419>he lacks critical information
>>551055548>AIslop that is completely inaccurate since Olga entering Chaldeas transformed her into a entirely different being when she was discovered by the people in that worldThey're probably the same fags that give komaschizo content
>>5510564192024 was the Olga gameplay test run year
>>551056419She's utterly piss poor if you wanna do 3T farming.
>>551055915It's kind of hard to explain why an amateur arrange sounds awful, anon. The beginning of it just sounds grating to me.
>>551056397What if we held hands? Inside the originium forests/CHALDEAS haha
>>551056118Memelin just sits on his ass, eating popcorn and occasionally sending out an illusion. Levtiamon actually got down and dirty, personally trecking through the LBs and eventually sacrificing himself to reestablish Solomon. No wonder Fou likes him more.
>>551056567Can you compare it at least to the Shikisai arrange?Though that said, Gyakko is a shitty song and Yakudo is far better.
>>551056463Sniff it with Holmes
>>551056303I'll be fineThanks for the concern
>>551056291Explain further
>>551054561lb3
>>551056558What's annoying is how arbitrarily they'll give some servants a skill that lets them switch between NP type, but for Aoko she has to use an entire bar to even get to her NP once, both wasting a turn and NP charge
>>551056303That won't affect me since my 1000+ apples are still waving at me.
>>551053941S-stop, no more lolis please...
>>551056710FGO still exists beyond 3t farming trash mobsAoko's swap is permanent for the duration of the fight btw, re-read her transformed skills and understand the ramifications of that
>>551055915But anon, Analysis is a sin...
The heart...
>No ritual copy post after getting called outlol lmao even.
super aoko is a trash name for what she really is doing
>>551056419aoko was beta testing for space eresh+olga marie
Stop trying to analyze the finale your just making the Beast of Analysis win you tards
>>551056183>You can post or stream the game as long as you use a spoiler free thumbnail and title>Um actually you can't post or stream the final boss and ending cause of spoilers pls understandThese fuckers can't make up their mind.
>>551056869>Boost is based on NP level rather than overchargeTrash
Update doko?
>Beast of Analysis>Whole plan is making humans hollow dumbasses, and the rest of the universe emptyvso there is nothing to analyze
>I can’t even make Moneybill suffer because the maggot ran away by dyingNASUUUUUUUUU
>>551057130Moneybills proving that suicide is badass
>>551056628I'd pick Shikisai over it. This one sounds too mushy for my ears, but maybe that's just me.
>>551057130Bro because of his own actions in inventing lostbelts, time is constipated forever and singularities can happen. Just wait until GUDAGUDA and murk him in a joke event then.
I wonder what will people think of FGO Part 2 plot five ten years down the road. What will its legacy be in the long term.
News 3800 days and here your 10 sq. https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/3800days/
>Lev rejoined for 5 minutes before being killed againsasugah
Heard your shit was ending.well, I have just two questions. Was it worth it? the journey?and, did you feel anything when the credits rolled?
>>551057305>I wonder what will people think of FGO Part 2 plot five ten years down the road. What will its legacy be in the long term.SlopNasu's best works>Mahoyo>Kara no Kyoukai>Tsukihime>FSN & FHA>EXTRA & CCC
>>551056932Super Aoko as a name is nearly 3 years old and nobody bothered to redraw her doing the ORE WA poseShaking my head right now
>>551056397Marisbury gets this much hate literally just because he isn't a cute autistic girl
>>551057305We will get to live the KH-lifestyle where some random phonegame is responsible for holding a lot of relevant lore that will shape bigger games in the future.
>>551057323>No Mashu with the big cakeThey're really going all in with this marketing
>>551057305Also, I wonder how people's opinions may differ from that of people who played all of this as it went on when they are able to play the entire thing in one go, with no events or anything, just pure main plot.
>>551057367It's not even over yet
>>551057429Mashu is too busy crying about having to kill her own timeline to bake you a cake.
>>551057367A story arc is ending.The game's not going anywhere for a while.
>>551057367No and no. If it had ended in 2017 it would still have overstayed its welcome.
>>551057324I put good mats into raising him...
>>551057420At least Square made that playable offline.I genuinely don't see that happening with FGO. Hell, hasn't happened with Arcade yet. Even if they wanted to do it with FGO I just don't see them capable of doing it simply because of how fucked up FGO's coding is. And there's no way in hell they will go and "Remake" FGO with everything as a full thing for a later release.
>>551057324Lev is both a mage and a demon pillar but every fucking time this guy appears he is bombing instead of using another attack method. Wtf? Does Solomon know that his familiar loves bombing?
>>551057324He did more in those 5 minutes than most of the cast though.
>>551057591Solomon's main attack is a giant purple Kamehameha to nuke the planet, which Lev also stole. He pribably also likes big fireworks. Or would if God told him to.
>>551057560I can totally see part of Nasu's vision being that even if there are no official records for FGO story, there are snippets of it online in Youtube channels etc. but even those are liable to fade away over time. And by the time they are gone, Fate has moved on to some new hotness. Assuming TM even exists anymore at that point.
>>551057367Not even one padoru christmas event...this journey is absolutely not worthy
>>551057560I can see them just putting the whole story into a VN format, without any of the gameplay.
>>551056419Because servants they think already have a big enough existing fanbase always end up shit
>>551057664>be a reality warper>instead of warping reality, commit terrorism>>551057560FGO has been reverse engineered from hell to back
At this point, I'm just waiting for a literal heat death in the Nasu verse. I don't know what the actual plot and the end goal for this anymore
>>551057591Lev "Mohammed" Flauros Lainur
>>551057717That's the typical offline gacha deal. No gameplay, gallery only.Things like what happened to X-Dive are VERY VERY rare. Which makes it crazier since it was Capcom of all people who did that.>>551057743That's fan efforts. It honestly doesn't count.
Doko news?
>>551056397im gonna draw moneybill in priestess clothesstay tuned
>>551057692Ok, I'll write one:>Chaldea is invaded by millions of chibi Nero's who do nothing but scream PADORU PADORU!>Initially everyone thinks Nero is somehow responsible, in a Chibi Nobu like situation>Turns out the new Santa is actually Draco, who is fucking miffed since she is basically the Anti-Christ celebrating a major Christian holiday>All her Incarnadines went rogue again to do their own shit, as it was not part of their job. The Padoru's resulted from her getting a grail and deciding to fuck with Christmas.>The main goal is to travel with her, beat up the Incarnadines again and secure the grail, while also meeting the previous santa's and learning about the true Christmas spirit to stop being such a grinch.U rike?
>>551057854DON'T DO IT
>>551057743By blowing things up, you warp reality. For example you warp living humans into charred piles of flesh and regular buildings into rubble.
Impressive.I never would've expected to have a moment of realization of how much smarter I am than the rest.Seeing so many people fall prey to the idea this ends, has a reset ending or whatever instead of a part 3 with how obvious it is has to be a low bar, but even so.Stupid people really do flock anywhere.
>>551057879i rike the chibi padoru and the santa draco ruining the holiday.
>>551057591Mossad tactics
>>551057939Levtent.
>>551057743Has it been so to the point of creating a fanmade... whatever it's called that is fully playable? Like things like Dragalia Lost?
>>551056397Marisbury should have been a woman
>>551057962Keep coping Gudacuck incelYou getting your RESET retcon ending.
>>551058014they're called private servers yeh
>>551058123Literally every male in this game should have been a woman
>part 3 happens>it's a new gacha with a new better engine>you won't carry over units. have to roll for them and build them againYABBA?
>>551058252Not going to happen
Update when? or when does the timelock ends?
>>551058252If they ever had been thinking of making a FGO2 with better engine, then yeah there is no fucking way they would let people port over their accounts if they could make INFINITE MONEY instead by having players roll the gacha again. And no sir, I do not like it.
Any summary yet for all the spoilers?
FGO 2 would be an open-world action rpg gachaslop
>>551058438It's an open-world gacha MMO.
News Doko?
>>551057854DO IT
>>551058209That's nice.So you can replay events and stuff like that on those? Do all the fights? Forever? As many times as one wants?
>>551058252I'm not deep into gachas outside of FGO, but wasn't there some Madoka or Love Live or something gacha, that had a part 2 that pissed everyone off so much that it was EoS'd within 3 months or something?
>>551058602The global version of sif 2 announced EoS before it even launched
>>551058540https://news.fate-go.jp/
>>551058685It is funny how people shit on FGO when there are actual fucking disasters like that out there. Not that FGO doesn't deserve getting shat on every now and then for doing something stupid, but there are people out there who are somehow even worse and incompetent. Like the Dies Irae people for example.
>>551058557The point of a private server is to replace the functionality of the original game server. So yeah, but it's hard to find someone who would willingly pay for the server to host the tool on.
>>551058987I wonder how powerful a Server would need to be to run FGO "locally"
>>551058987That'd be more functionality than the actual FGO though.
>>551059106I doubt it would cost more than running WoW
>>551057846That valentine killed AA forever
malice willies
>>551059295Said no one.
>>551058602Look at the Sensortower gacha charts. Any gacha below 50% of the profit line and without spikes is at risk of EOS. FGO is always at the very top. If not top number x it's always in like the top 10 games or something in terms of profit.It's profit that keeps gachas from EOSing. And although Sensortower doesn't show the actual money gain (only an estimate) it ranks the games relative to each other, so being in the top is a very good outcome. For Chink charts, a game that manages to briefly surpass Douyin aka Tiktok is having an extremely profitable event. >>551059106it's jsons and shit, it's the fact that you would be hosting to other gamers that makes things difficult. Remember, you are commonly charged the most when hosting a server on bandwidth consumed (upload and download) and also on storage space. generally that's pretty cheap unless you are hosting big downloads like actual updates. reverse engineering is difficult but from what I understanding apps atlas reverse engineered and the chinks had a separate reverse engineering project. fgo is popular enough that I assume if it ever EOSes, someone will share something immediately
>>551059295Meds Kizu
What if the world was reset back to 2004?
Enkidu? For me
>>551058540https://x.com/appmediafgo/status/2003031377474908388?s=20Appmedia was contact by Lasengle to not post any spoilers related to the epilogue after the 23rd update.
>>551059106>>551059414Could you not just run it for yourself?
>>551059501I would buy bitcoin
>>551059414>you would be hosting to other gamers that makes things difficultI understand that things would get complicated if you made it public, but I'm more wondering if it would be possible to run a small scale version of it for a private use so to speak, maybe a few more dummy accounts to test stuff or use supports. Just speculating, since I have zero know how on these topics.
>"there is no longer a path where his battle ends and he turns back">"he has regrets, this future is set in stone, and Emiya will probably go on cursing it">"but even then, I have found my answer: I was not wrong"This is your fate for playing FGO
>final boss is a gay jew in love with his ancestorOkay Nasu
>>551059571I'm pretty sure you can so long as you have the source code, I doubt the database file would be any more complex than whatever other mmorpg does, I think the harder part is someone saving the whole client files for posterity before everything goes to shit.
>>551053938Oc2>lb6
I have not played this game since LB6 due to lack of time and interest, but I remember people speculating on Specimen E being Olga and the Moonlight Lostroom scene of her being groped being specifically the doctors experimenting on her on the operating table even back then.It's pretty neat how people figured this out like years ago.
>>551059543>>551059571if people release their reverse engineering work, then you could run that on localhost aka on your own network and all your devices would be able to connect. then you would need to patch the app to use that endpoint. so yes, it would definitely be doable. contingent of course on someone releasing a custom server/their work so people can implement a custom server.Reverse engineering part is the hardest (plus some RE-ers are not inclined to share), then a small amount of money for a host OR you run it on your own local network and patch the app to look to that localhost or whatever server you have instead of the actual game server. You also need to disable the cert pinning, but I saw many years ago that people already found a way around that (disabling cert pinning is already required for sites like atlas academy to do reverse engineering work)
>>551053938>qualityPeople remember its high points but memoryhole all the extraneous bullshit and blunt execution.
>>551059541Interesting, I guess.
>>551059636You now realize the jews were behind the end of earth in FGO
>>551060037It's just the guidelines to avoid spoilers, not much to look into.
>>551060148>now
>>551060148>>>>/pol/
Emiya Shirou. If it was easy -- why would you do it?If it was easy -- where would the growth come from?If it was easy -- how could you ever rise above mediocrity to become something extraordinary?Something extraordinary? Something unstoppable? Life doesn't hand out greatness. It doesn't come wrapped in convenience or ease.You have to earn it. You have to fight for it.When the pain hits -- when the struggle feels unbearable -- that is when you dig deeper -- that is when you discover what you're made of.Because the truth is -- easy doesn't count. Easy doesn't work. Easy won't build you into the legend that you're destined to become.The climb is hard because it's meant to be. It's meant to test you. It's meant to push you. It's meant to forge you into something greater than you ever thought possible. So don't look for shortcuts. Don't try to cheat your way to the top. Push yourself. Push yourself harder than you ever have before. There are no excuses. You got one shot at this life and the clock is ticking. So when the days get tougher, you have no choice, but to get tougher too. Remember this: your mind controls your body. If your mind is weak, your body will crumble. But if your mind is unshakeable -- if your spirit is relentless -- then nothing, nothing, can stand in your way.The climb is hard because it's meant to be. It's meant to test you. It's meant to push you. It's meant to forge you into something greater than you ever thought possible. I don't know which path Emiya Shirou will choose. If you cannot defeat your enemy with the weapon you do have, then imagine one with which you could.
>>551060228 Put your dreams aside for pussy
>new year servant will just be gudako/gudao as a counter force agent
>>551060228>Life doesn't hand out greatness.Laughs in Leo and Kirsch
>>551059501Guda and Mashu are like 6, Olga is 11-12. Enjoy your schoolkid cast
>>551048261>>551048436What did they explain?>>551048338 I meant after Traum...
>Rape proof KyrielightUhm ,ok?
https://x.com/appmediafgo/status/2003031377474908388LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOThey SERIOUSLY don't want people "spoiling" the finale.
>>551056118Fou has legitimate reasons to fucking hate Merlin, and if his sentience wasn't something they decided later, he probably would've showed up in Babylonia just to kick Merlin
ニュース?
>>551059721On a vacuum, Part 2 has a generally well written, if somewhat convoluted plot. All in all, all the major plot beats have been predicted since forever. The problem is the eight years of stalling and dragging the thing has kind of soured out things a lot for very many.
>>551060928>David Bluebook was a random dude in Chaldeas with perfect memory lived in the mountains because his perfect memory caused him to dislike the hustle and bustle of big cities>The big reveal in this part was that (almost) all of Chaldeas humans have Olga's nerves/magic circuits implaneted inside them, due to those being the best thing since sliced bread, which uplifted humanity into a Utopia>Problem is, once those ran out and Olga died, her sould joined the actual Chaldeas system, which "retrieved" those nerves, by literally ripping them out of all humans>Since Bluebook disliked modern stuff, he never got the Olga implants and was never targeted by Chaldeas>He trecked across murrica on an "old" (by 2118 standards) bike, because he heard that all the alien shit started with area 51, and since humanity was basically fucked now anyway, he might at least figure out what was going on>He actually made it to A51, only for Moneybills hologram to meet him and gun him down (how the fuck a hologram managed to shoot anyone is anyone's guess)>Before he died, Moneybills gloated that he was from another earth, that used Chaldeas Earth for his own purposes.>Bluebook swore revenge on him, promising to fuck up his world>This resulted in Traum, where he manifested in the same Area 51. He was basically a vengeful spirit version of Guda, since he was the last human. He had all the command spells of all the humans that were murdered by the Olga AI on Chaldeas.>This leads to Traum where he summoned the chinese grandpa to perpetuate a Servant war to fuck up PHH. Eventually he passes on once the singularity is dealt with.>Moneybills calls him a "friend" but he is a fucking psycho, so he also backhandedly calls him a loser that Guda shouldn't have worried about.
>>551060928He was some random ass chaldean human that at the very least didn't use any olganium, mAIrisbilly killed him and he swore revenge to the earthling humans, thus becoming the last master of chaldeas' humanity
It can't actually end on a full time reset can it...? Has Nasu ever even done that...? It's the most fucking hack way to end any story...
>>551061409I miss her.
I know there was a theory in this thread that Chaldeas humans didn't have magic circuits, but doesn't Bluebook disprove it? Malice bully mentioned that Bluebook had all the Command spells of all the humans/Masters in Chaldeas, I can't imagine that they were all muggles like Ryunosuke.
>You can spoil everything about the final chapter, including the raids, but not the final nodes after these.A massive plot twist is coming...
>>551061521If you wanna have a giggle go take a gander at BL where they are genuinely praising Nasu because he, according to them, is taking the most biggest piece of hack writing aka reset ending/it's all a dream/etc but "he's making it good unlike all the others".
So where's the Avengers? Weren't they supposed to show up?
>>551057879santa draco small or big?
Can't wait to get my McDonalds job once we reset the timeline
>>551061131What’s happening in the finale that they are trying their hardest to hide this? Is Solomon actually coming back lol.
>>551061131Yeah there's some huge plot twist they want to cook up for part 3.As I said they spoiled themselves by overdoing it
>>551061680Archer Sion is the NY servant
So what's the point of the lost belts if everything turns out to be fake? Holmes killed himself for nothing?
>>551059295>That valentine killed AA foreverNTA but true, cuckposting aside you spent 5 seconds with AA in the summer event only for her to say before the shop closes ''Eh sorry we didnt spend time together but look forward for valentine!'' Only for her to job again and just let artoria caster have the spotlight againAA fans should be angry
>>551061673The working theory I have right now is that they have the shape of magic circuits but not the actual function/substance within. This is perfectly in line of Marisbury's philosophy of only the outside mattering. He made his human mages look like human mages, talk like human mages, and act like human mages, but they only have the outward appearance of magic circuit, while it's all hollow and empty inside. Olga is the one that gave them actual magic circuits with substance inside thanks to her "donating" her nerves and that's why her nerves had such an impact on civilization in Chaldeas. It was the first time they ever had something of substance being implanted into their hollow bodies.
>>551061930AA is weirdly sidelined for a character who’s supposed to be the third and most “complete” incarnation of another character, even in LB6 she kind of just showed up out of nowhere as an asspull to save (your) ass from Oberon with literally >the power of hope!as an explanation
Full reset seems horrible on every level. Even if you argue PHH is better off, a lot of characters seem either miserable or just completely fucked without the Part 1/2 experience or at the very least the memories of it.>Gordy would barely accomplish anything, since the Musiks are just meandering around>All the Chaldea staff would just be working on random shit>Olga is basically now completely without a goal, even assuming Moneybills is somehow gone>Mashu is ultra fucked, since she would be back to her dying part 1 body, and could only sit in Chaldea base without even the excuse of "I had so many good memories, I can die happy", since those wouldn't exist>Guda would just become some rando.>All the Servants you helped would be back to square one. Granted that's sort of a given, but the setting has always been fast and loose with the "Servants don't remember anything after unsummoned" and as seen with stuff like Avicebron, some stuff they do can stain their record permanently, even outside of FGO.I think there will be some reset but with conditions. Either the memories are kept, or the status quo changes in some manner.
>>551061673>>551061960You don't need Magic Circuits to have Command Spells. We've gotten plenty of normalfag Masters before.>>551062080>>551061930Turns out re-writes midway into the thing are bad and some characters will get irreversibly fucked thanks to them. Shock and surprise.
>>551057130Anonpls, only the facade matters so if you beat up a clone of moneybills it's as good as beating up Billy himself
>>551062130I’m really curious what the original plot for LB7 was going to be before it started revolving more about Tezca and Camazotz. Feels like it’s an improvement over whatever was going to be in there considering everything not attached to it, ORT or Tepeu is mostly gagshit.
>>551061801Small initially, since she's the grumpy one. Big one can come out in the end as an alt costume after she learned the meaning of Christmas.
Dare I say, kino?
>>551062130I don't even know if it's rewrite, but it's straight up laziness/forgetfulnessIf you won't show AA for valentine don't make her say ''please wait for valentine''
>>551062260We really were the Cosmos in the Lostbelt...
>>551062283>but it's straight up laziness/forgetfulnessWell, it's Nasu.And honestly, it's worse than those. It's simply plan lack of interest. It's on the same ballpark as how Nasu and Takeuchi don't touch Morgan unless a gun is pointed at their head. Their relationship with Saberfaces is honestly plain weird nowadays.
>>551054046>gbf>when the sequel basically disregards the first game's finale for the sake of an angsty sequel>... which entirely went to disregard one of its main plot points and solved it offscreen in order to be able to shovel more griffin dolls back into the game because gotta pander to waifufags more and we can't do that with the mephisto agreement activecomethefuckon.jpeg
>>551062130>We've gotten plenty of normalfag Masters before.Yes, but those were one-off cases. In the first place, normies only got Command Spells if they were drafted into a grail war, which is something that was started by mages. Even in Chaldea you get your CS from an organization with actual mages that engineered weaker versions for you. How would you have a grail or a Holy grail war with only normies? There would be no way or point to summon Servants.
>>551062109There won't be a reset.You already have all the materials in your hands to see through what they're trying to keep under wraps that happens after the raids are done.>Then why mention itBecause it's the motivator for (You) to show the character growth from the LBs and OC's.It's also the "raise the stakes" motivator to fight. Just like Romani and Mashu dying before the Solomon story ended.You'll have your "Mashu returns" except in this case it's "the LB becomes real" with the sacrifice of someone else like Sion.
>>551062563Good thing Bluebook is a one-off case too then!
>藤丸立香は世界を救えない>藤丸立香は目の前の誰かを救うKirei's valentines should be required reading at this point a lot of you reset retards would change your tune
>>551062196>Small initially, since she's the grumpy one. Big one can come out in the end as an alt costume after she learned the meaning of Christmas.alt costume for the adult ascension could be hard desu, i'd rather have her go around in 1st/2nd to understand christmas and in the end unlock the christmas welfare (which is adult draco 3rd ascension, probably the only time she'd ever put on a santa dress)
>>551062630Bluebook basically inherited all of their shit, he didn't have a CS of his own before Marisbilly shot him.
If nothing else I'm thankful that Gilgamesh are nowhere to be seen in the finale. Sure, Emiya and a token Saberface showed up, but their presence has been kept to a minimum.
>>551062712Welfares don't change outfits usually though.
>>551062703I still remember that people thought Angra would relevant in the finale because of this valentines scene kek.
>>551061739The only time it worked was sonic 06
>>551061739>BL Don’t they hate fgo and want Nasu to go back to writing his VN slops?
>>551062196>>551062712Considering that welfares don't change ascensions, I'd expect big Draco to be the NP sprite insteadMechanic wise, I'd guess that her NP would be "locked" until the last story node.
>>551062848Oh, it gets better.Some dude went about how he didn't like this sorta endings, and as we all know, there's a LOT of people who don't (for example, remember the Danganronpa shitstorm?) and all they did was give him mocking answers about how he's unable to appreciate the themes and that he should cry about it. Oh, and then they told him that "he started it" when he got pissed at how replied to him. Unironic gaslighting for once.I usually don't care about these things but the self-righteous tone they replied to the dude kind of made me a little angry.
>>551061837It's just about the part 2 ending though
>What? Do you want a eggplant?!>Sorry sir, we don't sell those here.
>>551063291Did your parents raise you retarded as a joke?
How old is Malice bully anyway? He looks 19, but by all logic, he should be in his 50s or something, granted he is a mage, but still.
I like how even Nasu is aware that Billy's goal is so retarded and insane that instead of trying to argue for it, he switched the main conflict to "if you kill Chadeas, you and everyone else will be persona non grata'd lol"
>>551062283Is that a preggo Artoria
>>551063291Now do a Gudako one.
>>551063426By me
I will only like this finale if my wife shows up during the Avengers unite scene
christmas draco!
>>551063291Your true mask is cuckfag.
>>551062563It's literally irrelevant. Magic Circuits and even being a mage are completely unrelated to being a master. The specifics of how masters are chosen varies but for example the Fuyuki one can literally just pick random niggas. Once the system for the war has been set, who becomes a master simply does not matter.
>>551063915>Once the system for the war has been setAnd who set the system? Certainly not normalfags. And don't say Moneybills or Olga, they wouldn't give a shit. I'd rather buy the "Their magic circuits were hollow" theory.
>>551062441uhhh, bro... I think you're talking about GFL... GBF is Granblue...
>>551061253but that literally happened in Babylonia
>There will almost certainly be an eight tree representing OCs/Events to give all the characters from there a shot>There will very likely be an extra tree to represent LB0 itself>Nine in totalKoyanskaya might not have been as retarded as we thought. Not that she would have known any of this. Also, how the fuck did she plan to get the Alien God as her tail, when it is so much more powerful than her that its not even funny.
>>551062130>We've gotten plenty of normalfag Masters before.Have we, though? I guess there's Kuzuki but those are clearly extenuating circumstances and I'm struggling to think of anyone else.
In retrospect now that we know about Moneybills's obsession with the surface level aspects of things and hollowness being a theme of his creations, does NA's translation of the Fantasy Trees as Trees of Emptiness actually makes sense?
>>551061739>>551063109BL is retarded because they don't even take into account that Nasu's favourite character is a bug whose entire drive is hating that there are stories bound to be destroyed and forgotten.Nasu making Oberon flashback appear in this finale says a lot about how likely the reset ending is ( 0% )
>>551064050this is what you happen when you post after waking up but before having breakfast or coffeelet my shame and folly serve as a warning upon the worldalso last i checked grandblue story wasn't amazing either
>>551064206Ruynosuke from Zero. But honestly, most normalfag masters were desperation acts by the grail to fill the slots. Usually going for the first psychopath it could find due to the Angry Mango. Other options were usually foistered on them, like Kuzuki, who only got the CS because Caster was using hax left and right. And even that only worked because of the land.
>>551064169Wow, it's almost like characters within the story don't have all the knowledge and information us readers do and so therefore can commit mistakes or do or think dumb things because they think they're built different and so can play everyone else to their advantage.You just said so, how was she supposed to know all of this? She probably thought Bootleg Ammy gg no re.
>>551064275Kinda but the thing is that the trees aren't hollow at all, no?
>>551064308Nasu's favorite is Arcueid lmao
>>551064379Zero metioned that Uryuu actually had dormant circuits IIRC. There was also Jack's master in Apocrypha being a random whore
>>551064316In my opinion, as long as a story leaves an impression enough to generate critic or praise it's a story worth reading since a bad story is one that everyone collectively forgets and isn't engaged in.Those two cygames titles and us are the only games out of memory that get routine praise for their story in japan and end up making news in sites like Dengeki.If Gyakkou generates buzz due to the finale you hear about it. If Kokkoro gets an adult temporary form you hear about it. If Gran reaches Phantagrande you hear about it. You don't for other gachaslop, especially newer ones, whose entire story is centered about just writing something that appeals to the widest lowest appeal denominator. Hence it's forgettable wordslop
>>551064308>>551064308Oh, of course not even them believe it's gonna be a real reset but in their view that Nasu touched and experimented with the "themes" makes them want to fellate him.Keep in mind that, from what I'm looking so far, these people are the theory autist circlejerk so when you look at it like that it's no wonder they're jerking off each other like this about how smart they are for getting the 2deep4u story while all the plebs aren't logical thinking machines and are being "emotional" retards.Their smarmy tone is utterly infuriating. The kind of a teenager who just got into college who thinks they've got life figured out from that alone.To be fair, there's a lot of retarded meta commentary in this chapter. Or that can be seen that way. But that's yet again another love it or hate it kind of kind.
>>551064452>Nasu's favorite is Arcueid lmaoNasu has gone on record to say just seeing Oberon made him so inspired to rewrite LB6 and then called it the peak of his career.Past that, Nasu has only allowed Oberon to appear in things under his supervision and even gave him an entire fucking event that was supposed to be about Kazuradrop. Oberon is the sole helper servant starring in it.Arcueid? He treated her as some throwaway trash and FGO's Archetype Earth replaced her in her only main story appearance.
>>551064452>>551064749Nasu's a writer. Most of his characters are his favorites. The reaction to his beloved Sakura caused him to write CCC and create dozens of new Sakuras until you liked her.
Morning ~
>>551063434 Can't she is too busy pleasing old men for money...
>>551064929>Nasu's a writer. Most of his characters are his favorites.I disagree. Nasu's treatment of Oberon and Ereshkigal is miles different from his treatment of Heracles and Morgan
New Komachi fanart let's goooooooo
>>551064749>Nasu has gone on record to say just seeing Oberon made him so inspired to rewrite LB6This is false btw
>>551065112Back to alter please
>fgo fanbase are superficial jerks that you have to teach them a lesson with twink villain and reset ending Sasugadana Nasu-sama
>>551065225I'm staying here with ma bross
>>551065131Famitsu: Judging by your enthusiasm, would I be right to assume you wrote without a hitch?Nasu: Not particularly. I had an extremely simple story in mind at the start of 2019. A narrative that rewards good and punishes evil, in full Mito Koumon style. We beat the bad guys, we beat Morgan, and that's the end. But unforeseen circumstances happened one after the other during development. We didn't have enough character development for Mash, we didn't have enough clues leading to the finale, etc. I had so much to do that the plot planning stage ate up twice the usual amount of time... And to top it off, my blessed friendships got the mangaka Chika Umino to draw a character.Famitsu: You're getting more excited at every word you speak.Nasu: That was the moment to throw the Oberon card. It was now or never. As I mentioned, I wasn't planning on making a complex story. But bringing Oberon into the picture changes everything. Since that's where I was using him, I had to take the story one level deeper... and that's how I added to so many new elements that I oversized the story.
Are you guys still playing the raids? I want to know what happens storywise there. New chapter unlocked or not yet?
>>551065408He said the same thing about Morgan btw
So Moriarty was wrong about Specimen E?
>>551065436The raids start tomorrow, retardIf they were on you'd see people gushing about their waifu saying 2 lines in the raid breadcrumb story like in Solomon
>>551065295What discord are you retards getting fed this reset bullshit from
>>551061442Outside of the Olga circuits reveal and the fact that Marisbilly talked to him, didn't we already know all that already?The fact that David created Traum out of seething rage and his body being a red herring for Subject E twig form are things I remember being heavily accepted as facts. So people are treating it as if it was some retcon or that it came out of nowhere.
>>551065826The missing pieces are why (You) dreamed his memories, why (You) tried to carry out his body from the room, why Moneybillis said he's acquainted with him and so are we and why he shot him.Moneybillis tried to hide a lot about Bluebook more than he did Olga.
>>551064169>Koyanskaya literally died on her way back to her (future) home planetI remember when we joked about that. Lmao, get fucking wrecked dumb fake fox.
>>551064594I've literally never heard about any of those things.I feel like Granblue is a pretty self-contained sphere. I've played 4 different Cygame games and still the only times I've ever heard about Granblue stuff from anyone was when I was playing the fighting game a lot.
>>551065504Moriarty has consistently been more wrong about things than Holmes has given he died at the falls to a single detective when he had a criminal empire at his beck and call, so that's not surprising.>>551065905I'm not sure he tried to hide the stuff about Bluebook so much as he legitimately found it too insignificant to elaborate on, desu. It's like telling someone about how much bread you've eaten in your life.
>>551064402She had a whole scene where she privately goes "Haha, I need all nine tails, but there are only seven lostbe-...oh shit.", only for her profile to walk back on it and go "Akshully tail eight and nine are Guda and the Alien God". Why would she herself be confused over her own plan?
>>551066267>I'm not sure he tried to hide the stuff about BluebookHe did try to hide about the CHALDEAS 2 year extra window until Sion pointed it out.Which is also another mystery. Sion cut him out as he was about to talk on the matter of Lostbelt 0 and promptly shot him which if she knew about Lostbelt 0 meant Sion was going to fuck us over.
>>551064169Depends on what she considers the Alien God. If she had actually gotten seven tails for seven lostbelts then she could have probably absorbed U Olga under the right circumstances, like what happened in lb7. If she grew into a full fledged beast then she could have at least posed a threat to the plan since they fuck up the world just from their existence alone.
>>551065476Source it.
>>551066267thirteen. I prefer Japanese food
>>551066360>Why would she herself be confused over her own plan?Well, look at Koyan's writing in general.
>>551065504He was superficially correct, about Specimen E being an "alien" that landed in Chaldeas and that was there for a 100 years
There's only one thing so far I don't understand how it "worked".How did planting a gorillion trees on earth, which are supposed to embody galaxies therefore the universe, makes it so that "universe = within earth" and made the actual universe empty? Furthermore, how did the 7 Lostbelts, which apparently were being used to fuel up those trees, were somehow enough to be fuel for a gorillion trees when the Lostbelts were just one tree?
once FGO is over will Nasu finally remake FSN featuring Wakame Paradise...if he ever for some godforsaken reason does do an FSN remake, he will unironically 100% add a Shinji route
>>551066360>Why would she herself be confused over her own plan?Koyan is literally defined by her obfuscating incompetence.
>>551066650Anonpai, Lev being added to FGO before Shinji tells you all you need to know about how Nasu regards Shinji...
>>551066650The only correct end of that minigame. The Bad End label there is just a lie.
Shiroubrown raid
>>551066650If FSN ever gets a Remake (lol) he will only re-write HF to get back at Sudou for not allowing him to re-write it when doing the HF movie.
Shitrou is a pajeet, that's why he throws his parents into the fire and pretend to have amnesia
>>551066632I think the idea is that the root, like the counterforce, is fucking retarded. Moneybills scammed it by planting the trees that superficially looked like galaxies, used the LBs as fuel to make them "real" to the world, and then his copy paste root went, "well, its real, and its here on earth, so clearly it can't be in the Sombrero galaxy" and wipes that area, since there is no need for it to be there. That's how I got it at least.
Cute & Canon
>>551066632>How did planting a gorillion trees on earth, which are supposed to embody galaxies therefore the universe, makes it so that "universe = within earth" and made the actual universe empty?There's a scene where the Priestess basically shows that Earth is surrounded by white while the universe is folded into the trees>Furthermore, how did the 7 Lostbelts, which apparently were being used to fuel up those trees, were somehow enough to be fuel for a gorillion trees when the Lostbelts were just one tree?When you consider each Lostbelt it makes sense.ORT itself becoming one with the tree could've fueled most of it.
>>551066982wouldn't the real root switched it back? In fact where is the real root?
>>551066824It's not that he loves Shinji, it's that he regrets unintentionally making him the only antagonist with 0 redeeming traits in-game, since Nasu doesn't like writing antagonists like that.It's the reason he's gone on to talk more about Shinji's good side basically every time he has the chance, in materials, interviews, short stories (even one released alongside a movie where he rapes Sakura lmao)EXTRA Shinji in his entirety, all 3 incarnations of the character, are basically a result of that as well
>>551066632Nasuverse works on the principle of 'belief can be stronger than fact'. I'll give you an example. Vlad the Impaler was NOT a vampire in life, he was just a brutal warlord. But then Bram Stoker wrote Dracula and associated it with Vlad, and caused people all over the world to start associating Vlad with a vampire called Dracula. Which is why the Vlad in the Throne got fucked over and retroactively given vampiric powers even though he didn't have them in life. If a belief is strong enough, it can even overpower a fact that occurred in real life. Marisbury planted trees that contained only the shape of a galaxy, not the actual one. But because the Lostbelts and Chaldea saw those fake galaxies in the trees and perceived them as galaxies, that belief overwrote the actual fact of galaxies existing outside the planet. Now the truth got retroactively rewritten so that galaxies exist only on Earth now and all the ayylmaos got fucked over as a result.
Are (You) ready for the raids, /fgog/?
>>551067171>all the ayylmaos got fucked over as a result.You know too much
>>551066650What we know about Illya's route>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route>Zouken was the final boss
>>551067171But why the belief of a few niggas on earth > the belief of a gorillion quintillion ayys?
Ignore whatever memedala and the collab tree.OROCHISOMBREROMAYALLSPIRALMAGELLANSEYFERTQUASARThose are your enemies for tomorrow.I hope SOMBRERO becomes a meme. Like the lostbelt its from.
>>551067327Sounds kinda lame?We didn't end up losing much.
Did the root copy work because earth and the universe became equivalent and therefore the copy earth became a root copy? Or was wiping the universe merely part of keeping humanity safe and it's not related to activating a copied root?
>>551067425The belief alone wasn't enough, which is why he needed the Lostbelts as fuel. To compensate for the belief of a few niggas not being strong enough. Since humans are the minority here, he made up for the lack of numbers by sacrificing entire worlds since a Lostbelt counts as an entire world unto itself. The sacrifice of seven worlds should make up for the lack of numbers and power up the belief to the point it can win against the beliefs of the ayys and put the cosmos in the Lostbelt.
>>551067547It worked because Moneybillis said>If I can copy the planet, then I can copy the Root!
Sex with Okita
So let me get this straight: it really was substitution magecraft to switch galaxies into the trees?
>>551067439Ok, but what will be the Andromalius equivalent?
>>551067327>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person.I wonder if that would have added anything to FSN. The three routes right now act as good counterpoints to one another. Ilya's route and Sakura's route sound too similar.
>>551067015BB and Hakuno are so cute together
>>551067641Cute Mashu wife
>Steals the Third magecraft from the Einzberns and pulls it off with minimal issues>Steals subsitution magecraft from the Prillya bad guys and pulls it off on a universal scale>All of that was basically just parts of his bigger KeikakuMaybe he has a point with the whole "Hey, as long as it works, the inside is unimportant" logic
>>551066961They are doing this for Gudao (me) btw
I still don't understand the root copypaste.
>>551067726HF was supposed to be a different VN.>Fate/stay nightSaber routeArcher/Rin route (Tohsaka route)>Fate/other nightIllya route (Einzbern route)Sakura route (Matou route)>That's right, when I finished writing the Saber and Rin route all in one go, part of me thought the game wouldn't be settled unless I flipped it over. As the theme of Fate/stay night, if we assume the Saber route to be posing a question, the Rin route is the answer and the Sakura route is a practical application. In the beginning there were plans for an Illya route, but if we were to add it, the game would have wound up being incredibly huge. So we had this plan to release the Saber route and Rin route as "Fate/stay night", and the Illya route and Sakura route as "Fate/other night". But when we thought of the 8800 yen price, we decided we should include the Sakura route after all, so in the end, we decided to combine the Illya route and Sakura route into one route." Fate/side materialhttps://www.tmdict.com/en/#?nav=ja&src=fate-side-material>Rejected RoutesExactly what it sounds like. Route ideas that didn’t make the cut.In the beginning, the plan was for Fate/stay night to have four different routes, one for each heroine.It would start off by letting the player arbitrarily choose between playing as either Shirou or Rin. Then around the middle of the story they would finally meet, and after that you would branch off into one of the four routes for the last half of the game. Yeah, I don’t really understand how it was going to work either.Anyway, getting back to the rejected routes, it goes without saying that the Illya route tops the list.
>>551067836Animusphere are revealed as direct descendants of Solomon so it makes sense.
>>551067708Naraka Mandala? Or they'll retcon Oedo Castle is actually a tree
>>551067889The man had 1000 wives, I'm pretty sure most of the clock tower big boys can trace their lineage to him somehow. He's the magecraft equivalent of Genghis Khan.
>>551067910*Onriedo. But whatever, that Shimosa castle thing
So this really was a lazy asset reusage so far.But I'm still unconvinced.Sure it can be used to simply say (You)r family is rich as fuck but the fact Dantes impersonated a Dad that (You9 recall as quite absent and self absorbed in what he did without disclosing it is weird.
>>551067327>Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some routeThat's basically just mind of steel, huh. Damn, would've been cool to see.
>>551068084I think Dantes was fudging things a bit to not make it too obvious to Guda.
Lol sixth magic, where are the retard sharing fake spoiler?
>>551067708Could be a new one for LB0
>>551068036>>551067910There's some things that hint at it>7 grands except we get 2 more>Abigail being told that in the final battle there may be a spot for another seatI only have doubts on two things.LB3, LB5 and LB7 trees were fused with someone. LB6 tree was entirely consumed by Morgan.So how do they still exist?
>>551068152Unless MTL crapped the bed apocalyptically, its real. At the very least the part about a sixth existing.
>>551068309Pretty sure he has copies of all of them on Chaldeas. The trees that got wrecked were still on Earth. And all seven fell.
I am more and more convinced Mashu is citing Musashi as the sixth person who reached the Root
>>551068542Sashi never got some new magic though. And if anything her application seems to be closer to the first.
>>551068596She reached the Root by achieving Emptiness, but since her way to reach it wasn't a new one she didn't create a new Magic.The reason people assume Olga is the sixth magician is because Animusphere did reach the Root by recreating it. So they must have created a new magic.
>>551068542>>551068596So is Kojiro the 5th person because he has 2nd magic?
>>551068716>unavoidable attack>gets avoided
>>551068542I think Moneybills LB shenanigans fucked something further in the timeline or someone reached the sixth between 2004 and 2015. She mentions it in a pure textbook way, like its mage common knowledge.Would have been a cool way to reference the part where Kadoc told her to brush up on magecraft to be ready for anything, but alas.
>>551066360Why not? Koyan seems utterly confused about everything longer term than stomping on some poor animal's tail or simping for fat old rich men, she doesn't even seem to know how the fuck Dark showed up at Chaldea even though Light at least got introduced through LB7
>>551068754>unblockable attack>gets blocked
>>551068030I like how God being weirdly fixated with expanding humanity at all costs like he's a fucking Pokemon EV trainer explains why the otherwise empty and selfless terminal for himself acquires 1000 wives.
>>551068542Wouldn't the sixth just be Aoko? Her grandfather was technically the creator of Blue, I don't remember if they mention him reaching the root but we explicitly know Aiko did see it.
Human cognitive faculties like comparative thinking and analysis are actually EVIL, and until they are eradicated from the human condition our species will NEVER fulfill its ultimate purpose of building cool spaceships.
What if Sashi comes back in the finale?
>>551068838Koyan legit feels like a different character in every chapter. I know the LBs had different writers, but with her its REALLY noticeable>Pure sadistic villain in Prologue and LB1, who will run when the going gets tough and hints that she knows more than it seems>Almost the same in LB2, but legs it even earlier>Gets beaten up and treated like a joke in LB3, despite being fairly competent early on with the cake>Gets treated like a complete joke in LB4, outside of bullying the indian girl>Starts to become serious again in LB5 with the Beast drop, and saving Beryl>Gets turned into a Team Rocket-esque villain in LB6 that gets scammed or beaten up by everyone she comes across, despite her powers. >Chunguska's disaster is well known>Now switched sides in LB7, only to get beaten up left and right again, and somehow Chaldea treats her better than they do Olga, despite, you know, her personally gunning down all their colleagues.>Drops into OC3 as a sideboss, then fucks off after mommy scammed her plan and her "pets" felt bad for her.
>>551069140There would be much clapping.
>>551069195>despite being fairly competent early on with the cakeThe cake is one of the most incompetent assassination attempts of all time.
>>551069007I think her grandpa just discovered a way, and Aoko is the one that actually sucessfully used it after dealing with the red shadow.
>>551069195LB3 should essentially be considered completely non-canon. You can't take a LB that was created as damage control against seething chinks after the Frog Emperor fiasco seriously.
odds its a mashu endingevens its an olga ending0 its a salaryman ending
>>551069195>being fairly competent early on with the cakeYou can't be serious.
>>551069195Trying to make sense of Koyan, specially so at this point with the ending at our doorstep, is an exercise in futility.She's arguably one of the biggest writing failures in all of FGO and perhaps Fate as a whole.
>>551069297Hey, that's still probably the clearest "assassination"plan against Guda and it almost worked, if not for Gordy being a glutton. Her main competition is shit like Bael's insanely convoluted plot to drop a meteor on Guda's ass.
>>551069445>Bael's insanely convoluted plot to drop a meteor on Guda's assHey praise for the effortHe also indirectly saved us since Moriarty interlude is the reason why (You) reason it out that Sherlock is the key to solve the situation in the finale.
>>551068084This was a dumb crack theory anyway
Give me your most nuance take on what Sion's going to do
>>551069389>Leave cake for dumbass gullible Master with a lot of friends, who would gladly make one for him in a heartbeat>Use poison that (somehow) bypasses the infamous poison resistance>Keep antidote on self, in case of emergency.I can think of worse ways. Sure the smartest way would have been to sneak up on Guda sleeping or walking in a corridor and blow his brains out with a gun, then leave, but then you'd have to actually deal with Chaldea/Wandering Sea security, and Sion and DaVinky are pretty paranoid.
>>551069219I'd clap sashi desu
>>551069340>Frog Emperor fiascoWhat was that? Figure LB3 would've pissed off chinks even more
>>551069515Bael is a funny case, because he would have won instantly, if he didn't use Moriarty, since you were rayshifted like two hundred meters above ground with no Mashu and no servants, so if not for Moriarty saving you, Guda would have been a red smear.
What was Kinoko thinking when he decided to make the lynchpin of all of Part 2 to be a character we barely know or care about thanks to her having had zero screen time for the seven or so years between the Part 1 Prologue and LB7 outside of her appearances in Riyoshit, Case Files and Moonlight Lostroom?
Family sex
>>551068754"situation where thing that can't happen happens"is not only Nasu's favorite trope, but the foundation of his entire writing
>>551069732I forget the exact details but basically the first time some TM writer depicted the First Emperor, he was some kind of frog demon creature. Then the Chinese got really fucking angery and there was lots of apologizing and Urobutcher had to step in to wank the Emperor really fucking hard.
>>551068392I saw a mention that It's 5 magics but 6 peopleAoko grandfather was the one to find the fifth but Aoko was the one to make use of it.
>>551069732qsh was supposedly a frog in the first few drafts of lb3, but chinks got mad so now he is what he is currentlyi can't remember if jingke also actually succeeded in the earlier drafts or not
>>551069692for all his keikaku, his real wish is to be the Solomon wife no. 1001
>>551069617Being my personal cum dump
Yeeeah I'm getting a strong Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth vibe from this.
>>551069195she had more credibility back then, but she does job even back in LB1 and LB2and her ""becoming serious"" in LB5 is an extremely generous view of her barely showing up at all, for once she doesn't have time to job since she's barely even therebasically she's a character who, with a few ultimately inconsequential exceptions, only ever fails at everything still weird they don't hold the mass shooting of chaldea against her more, though
Why did Kirei decide to fight servants instead of sneakily kill Fujimaru?