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Code Edition

>Update 11.0 patch notes:
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/296-patch-notes-11-0

>November Community update
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/308-november-community-update

>Year 2 Roadmap:
https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg

>Where to get the game:
https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2

>Lore Stuff:
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page

>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general

>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):
Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.

>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview

>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/

>Recommended prestige perks:
https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg

>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:
https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks

>Other useful links:
https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB (embed)

Previously on the Battle-barge: >>550523182
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>>551084292
Ironically we did end last thread with some codes being shared and played.
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>no codes posted
>thread dies
KWAB
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Also the new weekly is still 24+ hours away...double KWAB
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>be me on assault
>on vortex with some unprestiged level 20 tactical on absolute and P4 sniper snoyigger who won't shut the fuck up
>keeps having an absolute meltdown when combat starts, chimps if we attack enemies near him or try to assist with extremis in any way
>go down twice at this point because chaos isn't fun
>snoyigger, despite having invisibility, lets the clock nearly run down on me both times and chimps at me for needing to get it together if i'm playing on absolute
>tac and i go down from swarm of spawns and a terminator using it's assault cannon on us
>snoy screams over the mic he's not fucking reviving us
>let's us die while he hops in and out of invisibility to look cool
>spawns eventually get to him
>leaves instantly
>mfw
I admit there was moments I could've done better, but holy fuck can you run into some types of people while pubbing. Also post match stories to keep the thread going, brothers.
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>>551090574
I ran a Lethal mission back when it was the highest difficulty with a very talkative and VERY southern-accented guy who kept dying but at the very least he was apologetic. Nothing really happened aside from the very rare terminus spawn at the final section of Inferno. He was hollering when the spawn happened with the most southern "fuck yeah bro" when I was the last brother standing and managed to survive the wave and the carnifex.
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>>551089504
Codes actually were posted and I had fun.
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>>551090574
>play a lethal termination back in the day
>playing with this vanguard
>stfu's the whole op
>get to the final section
>I take the lasgun control
>can't shoot the bio titan immediately
>have to clear enemies around me so they don't interrupt my lasgun charges
>which is actually vanguard and the other guy's job
>vanguard is like across the map fighting other shit though
>suddenly he speaks up
>basically says "Just fucking shoot the titan already! What are you doing?!"
>he eventually takes control at one point
>I bodyguard him, but a swarm spawns
>he ends up taking just as long as I did to unload all his lasgun shots
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>>551094748
Makes me wish there were more ways to grief in this game. Friendly fire being default on would be so good.
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>>551095330
And here I am, remembering how some dudes here got angry at me when I came up with a mechanic for Apothecary griefing by collecting geneseed which prevents that teammate from respawning.
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>>551096139
That would be so fucking funny. Give me an animation of tossing the gene seed on the ground, looking at it in disgust and shaking my head, then doing a high jump curb stomp on it. I want the player getting perma killed to be forced to watch it from the perspective of the tube.
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You should be allowed to stimm teammates.
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Thread still alive? should I post my code or just give up?
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>>551105398
Code for what?
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All classes leveled to prestige 4 level 25
All weapons leveled and mastered
All armors unlocked
All accolade items bought
All pve ordeals done and rewards earned

Honestly can't be fucked to continue caring about the future of the game when saber gives braindead retarded answers to stuff like they did in the community update

I got my fill of the game, and it was worth the money but I'm done, I think. Hopefully SM3 is managed by more intelligent people.
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>>551106801
>braindead retarded answers to stuff like they did in the community update
qrd?
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>no codes posted for over half a year
>thread falls off page ten
>breadmaker absent because he's a tradcath pole, busy preparing for christmas
>"hey can i post a code here?"
10/10 effortposting attempt. at least attach some 40k smut next time, mr stealthbumper
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>>551107326
>we won’t give Assault free jump pack dodges cuz uuuuuuuuuh he might run ahead and skip a lot of the map
>>551106801
See you back here when Techmarine drops
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Bros... I don't want to go back to /coopg/
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>>551115021
I’d only go back if all the ratfags were rounded up and executed live on stream
And if people would talk about literally any other game than Darktide
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>>551110675
Nevermind the fact that bulwark basically has infinite dashes and can rush ahead super far too.

Or the fact that assault can already use ground pounding to fly over boundaries and skip large parts of maps.

Even vanguard can do the same as assault sometimes if there are enemies there.
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I don't think I'll ever play Obelisk again, even on minimal difficulty. If I have to get into one more staring contest over who has to carry the relic, with everybody fucking standing there, I might just uninstall the game. One of the worst maps I've ever come across in any game I've ever played.

Which dev thought it was a good idea if one player functionally couldn't do anything for half of the experience.
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I don't think I'll ever play Vortex again, even on minimal difficulty. If I had to see retards getting massacred by the beast, I might just uninstall the game. One of the worst maps I've ever come across in any game I've ever played.

Which dev thought it was a good idea if a player actually had to pay attention to the boss attacks
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i'm sorry, anon, i don't think memeing can save this general
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If it’s this bad now, imagine it after Techmarine when we have nothing big to look forward too anymore
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>>551123235
We could always post our Dudes.
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>>551124491
If you don’t man the wall when the Emperor calls, can you really call yourself a Dude?
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>>551123815
we'll be getting sm3 trailers as soon as the final update is released.
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unga bunga
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>>551127326
but they told me hammer on bulwark was a waste..
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>>551127326
Very kind of the game to not spawn 3 Soulreapers to instantly ruin your fun
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>>551127629
It is

>block Thunderhammer when superior fencing heroic Thunderhammer exists
>his banner is literally useless and didn't even support himself or the team

Even shieldrush niggers still carry the heal banner instead of the useless armour one that is only viable during hard stratagem's single armour tab modifier
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>>551127326
what's this magical world you live in where every AI spawned doesn't immediately target you when you start a charged attack?
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>>551127886
i think my teammates were dealing with the extremis
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>>551128143
heal banner is a myth, you dont need it. with hammer the pommel strike damage is really good anyways.
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>>551128143
Block hammer is superior to the heroic in every way unless you’re playing ground pound spam Assault
Doing more damage > leaving shock fields to clear out minoris
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Is anyone up for carrying my ass on the weekly stratagem?
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>>551129692
Just carry a melta and a heavy bolt pistol, I've seen far too many idiots bringing bolters. You need a Tactical who knows how to aim his auspex along with replenishing grenades and a Vanguard negro with Extremis heal. Both of them should be carrying melta rifles. Not having the Tactical means the Heldrake fight will take half an hour or more and not having the Vanguard means your squad will wipe since you'll be forced to be in low HP in lull segments (Saber clearly did not playtest this modifier).

The third teammate is literally (You), you can pick any class and as long as you keep executing you're golden.
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>>551130451
my brother in the emperor what kind of randoms fit that criteria? I'm stuck with low level console players most of the time
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>>551130451
>not having a vanguard means you wipe
It’s not that bad without one, as long as you secure your first execution quickly after the cutscene you’ll be fine, which is easy to do with a melta
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>>551131139
Every Extremis kill will fill up your HP as opposed to just heal a portion. For randumbs this means watching for 200+ seconds or surviving the wave.

There's also a chance of a singular Helbrute or double Helbrute spawns.
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>>551131317
I know anon, I’ve cleared it with and without a Vanguard
I’m just saying it’s not that bad without one
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Any datamining or leaks for the Carcharodon pieces or any future content? I'm surprised nothing has come out, I remember seeing leaks months ahead of actual releases in S1.
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Damn
I cant believe I actually got teammates to finish an entire 25 rounds in siege mode.
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>>551134024
Your teammates are a unicorn

Most normal siege players dip at 5
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>>551133746
Last one I saw was the ravenguard assault champion, he has a unique beaky helmet and bonding stud greaves
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Only the Space Wolves warrant a real DLC since they're like Middenland with tons of special donut steel units
Blood Angels and Dark Angels don't have enough special units (in fact they only have 1 or 2) to warrant their own but are extremely popular
The Imperial Fists, White Scars, Raven Guard, Salamanders and Iron Hands are relatively unpopular chapters with nothing special going for them but they'll get special skins since they're First Founding chapters
If Games Workshop could reshuffle the main Loyalists without pissing off their boomer purist fanbase they'll remove all of those and replace them with Black Templars, Blood Ravens, Raptors, Minotaurs, Carcharodons and Crimson Fists
Naturally they still love their Ultramarines with the Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves being distant
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>>551135667
"replace them" doesn't even make sense because no matter what, the originals are the originals whether you like it or not. they'd have to go back and retcon the entire lore, the primarchs, the heresy, everything; something they'll never do for the likes of the fucking Minotaurs and Blood Ravens lol
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Blud Rehvens fags really like to overestimate just how much the community cares about them huh
Unc chapter
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>>551138404
They even got cucked & mogged in their own upcoming game by the dark angels
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>>551139695
there are more blood ravens vidya players than dark angels ones
doing them dirty because games workshop wanted to shill marvel primarchs ensures that shit is doa
there's total war 40k anyway
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>>551131317
extremis heal vanguard is a waste, you're already healing nearly to full off one extremis and then making up the rest on majoris
You bring double power fists so you can end the heldrake fight in 2-3 cycles
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>>551138404
This entire genre is predominantly for uncs.
Unless SM2 is what got you into this franchise, you're probably one.
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>>551139935
>there's total war 40k anyway
>on ps5
lol
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>>551142240
I said genre but I more accurately meant franchise.
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>>551142240
Ironically a cracked copy of Dawn of War 1 that got passed around on a flash drive by my friends while I was in high school in 2007 was what got me into 40K
And I think the Blood Ravens are lame and gay
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So far I've seen two Zoanthropes and a scurrying Biovore show up and die in the scripted final evac section in Reclamation.
Has anyone run into a Lictor or a Ravener showing up for a scripted death?
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>>551147607
I haven't, and it makes sense they aren't included because they both have teleport abilities which might save them from the scripted death.
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There is no one available to do the weekly?
This is what I hate about games with weekly raids/hard content, most competent people just do it in the first 24 hours and the wageslaves that only play during the weekend are stuck with low level shitters
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>>551149115
I'm down to play.
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>>551149115
This is literally me trying to fill a party to do UwU in FFXIV right now
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>>551149974
why are you in this general niGGa?
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what games did you buy during the sale anon? which ones have you played so far?
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>>551150163
Have you seen the FFXIV general? I’d much rather just hang here instead
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>>551149115
Skill issue
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Actually why DON’T we have railguns in 40K? Helldivers has them.
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>>551155807
because railguns are shit tier compared to the actual high end stuff in 40k but far less economical than the low tier, mass produced stuff for any faction
DOAT guns used to do shit like telefrag people on top of themselves, a railgun ain't worth a damn to that
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>>551156180
I really don't get why the Emperor tried to build humanity back using Warp magic instead of going full in on the science bullshit. Like bro, why weren't you hoarding all the info on the DAOT shit so you could more easily rebuild humanity? He could easily have memorized every little thing tech related and just remade it after Long Night. If humanity got that far with no Warp fuckery, why would you use Warp fuckery to try and get back?
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>>551159351
Warp fuckery is inherently necessary for FTL without a webway
Tech fuckery will inevitably lead to men of iron shenanigans and the horror that accompanies them
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>>551159460
But everyone already knows that AI shouldn't be trusted. It was no issue during the Crusade, so he'd just tell them not to mess with it. Everyone remembers Old Night. And the DAOT Humanity didn't need Warp travel for FTL either.
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I don't know what they did with Reclamation but twice now I have disconnected at the ship bowels after you blow up the coolant rods and then respawned with the full team in that area and went about the mission as normal.
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I don't really like block weapons
i can see how they can put out way more damage but they fuck up my rhythm in combat something fierce, especially having to parry late instead of early
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>>551161221
It's a contrarian pick, feel free to ignore it.
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>>551161221
It genuinely took me like 2-3 bouts of “okay this time I’m actually going to learn block” for it to finally click, and now I don’t use anything else
The freedom to apply your burst damage wherever you want and the ability to say “no, fuck you, it’s MY turn to attack and YOUR turn to get staggerlocked” is unmatched by anything else
You’ll get used to the parry timings with practice, you also gain a deeper understanding of enemy combos because block makes you figure out exactly when the enemy hits, which in turns helps with learning how to perfect dodge
>>551162342
Why does the mere mention of block send fencingfags into such a tizzy?
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>>551162761
It’s just their inferiority complex. They know fencing has nothing over block except ease of use and they hate that. Be nice to them.
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>>551155807
because you need a lot power, which at that point, why you using a solid projectile, shoot molten plasma
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>>551155807
>commisar, that's him!
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>>551167826
I don't really get Plasma in AC6. Like, it's hard to fully evade, but the damage is chip. Why go with that over the high direct damage of lasers or the high impact of kinetics?
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>>551167826
Eating on the floor looks so uncomfortable. I don’t get why some cultures do it.
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>>551129692
Play bulwark or assault with block power fist. Stand in the spot. Fully charged a an attack and watch his health evaporate.
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>>551169992
I've done it a couple times. It is. I prefer to stand and eat.
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>>551167826
A newly discovered fetish of mine is a Muslim woman like this dropping her robes and revealing she’s completely naked underneath and has a fat rack and wide hips
The hijab and veil stay on though
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>>551143432
Based
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>>551162761
Because skill expression is racist
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>>551161221
>but they fuck up my rhythm in combat something fierce
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Do build videos need to be 30 minutes long?
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>>551161221
i only learned block because the old purple block chainsword was super fast and the most fun to use
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>>551195350
this patch was awesome
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STOP FIGHTING EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ENEMY AT THE ELEVATOR YOU FUCKING NIGGERS HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>551196963
No need to be a racist
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>>551155807
Only taufags have railguns
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>>551128414
this is because of the banner damage, the constant ticking stun locks enemies like shock area does. the banner is incredibly strong even without healing, it pops all mines and evaporates minors. plus it raises moral.
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>game on sale
shouldn't we be getting more posters in the general?
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This is why you niggers shouldn't fuck around elevators.
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>>551211730
am I missing something? why do people insist on killing every enemy when the squad is barely alive?
Happened to me during the last segment before the heldrake
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>>551211905
>why do people insist on killing every enemy when the squad is barely alive?
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What hard weekly are we getting this time? Didn't Saber leak the schedule for this year?
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>>551207947
people don't buy pve games that they didn't start with day 1
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>>551212303
If it’s more Chaosloppa so help me
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>>551160234
Humanity was reliant on warp travel during the age of technology for FTL, that's why the warp storms caused by the birth of slaanesh cut every system off from each other for thousands of years.
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>>551159351
The emperor's final plan was to raise humanity above the mortal plane, psykers were popping up already during the DAoT and later too and they would occasionally pop and make demon worlds, in 30k/40k they started to become more and more common as time went on, eventually it would be a fully psychic race able to ascend into the warp and achieve complete immortality, the original emperor, the one born of shamans was an evolutionary shortcut to that, eventually all humans would become like the emperor and simply take over the warp but in order to do that you need to prevent all your new unprepared psykers from exploding into daemons randomly.
Now with the nu-nigger library lore nothing makes sense, so don't put any attention to that.
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>>551160234
Human ships during the age of exploration in 40k history was so advanced even Chaosniggers avoided them for a time.

Humanity simply viewed daemons as hostile ayylmaos or schizo delusions, whatever the case they just blasted them if they can and the most advanced forms of shields existed prior to the AI chimpout.
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>>551212303
>>551212474

Next weekly is Vox Liberatis starting 24 Dec

>Maintain Distance - melee Damage is greatly reduced, but Ranged Damage is increased
>Detonation Risk - exploding objects are more common and much more dangerous in terms of radius and Damage
>Enemy Sighted - ranged kills restore Armour based on enemy threat level
>Buffed Enemies - enemies have increased Health and Damage
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>>551216708
sounds okay-
>buffed enemies
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>>551216860
just post a code and it'll be okay anon, nobody should be forced to deal with randoms making a 25 minute fight club at THAT part
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>>551217164
Swear to God the average human would either fall to Khorne or Slaanesh in .2 seconds. If it's not uncontrolled lust, it's wanting to kill the shit out of everything enemy shaped.
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>>551216708
Heroic bolt sniper rifle to the rescue until the Chaos segment
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>>551216708
>another Heavy weekly
STOP with this fucking Maintain Distance modifier
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>>551216708
It's so funny that they've already run out of ideas for conditions and made Buffed Enemies. "uh what if stuff was even harderer" wow brilliant idea vladimir, another vodka ration for you.

At this point it would have been better for all of us if the Saber team was blown up in a cruise missile strike in 2024 and post-launch support was handed to somebody else.
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>>551127326
How do you make enemies not spam red attacks almost exclusively?
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>>551155807
Because railguns use magnets.
Magnets = magic.
Magic = heresy.
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>>551170904
This is what muslims want you to think in order to make you join their culture. This is not real, anon.
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>>551225662
>At this point it would have been better for all of us if the Saber team was blown up in a cruise missile strike in 2024 and post-launch support was handed to somebody else.
We need to fund Ukraine so they can do this desu
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T5RID
Come and join for the weekly (please)
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Guess not
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why the fuck there are so many assaults doing hard reliquary
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>>551239737
Fist can punch heldrake
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>>551239737
assault is fun when you don't fuck up and instantly cripple yourself forever
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Kek at the very least the last Assault to join was Prestige 4.
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We don't talk about how many assaults were kicked tonight
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>>551242442
Or the heavy bolt tact
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>next weekly is going to be chaos too
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>>551237549
I'll join if you're still down.
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>>551242826
At least it's not obelisk.
Or reliquary.
Or vortex.
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Sounds like the next op is gonna be another vox lib.
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>>551245543
Next weekly will be Vortex with Myopia, Equipment Malfunction and Split Up.
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream
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>great responsiblity
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I've already done the weekly.
Since the deadline's near though, I'm willing to help any of the last battle anons in here to not finish it, finish it.

K3NQF
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So what guns is the new class going to share with the other classes?
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>>551246698
I tried joining but my connection blows on burgerland servers
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why the fuck does the tactical has so many exclusive primary guns?
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>>551248068
Sorry, bro.
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>>551248418
Tactical versatility.
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>weekly tanking the fuck out of my fps thanks to chaos particles all over the place
Welp time to upgrade my gpu it seems
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Why didn't they even release a mark viii hooded varient? or make vi? I feel like that should be a free customization you get right out the gate if it doesn't clip on certain helmets.
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>>551248418
I dont know, but it is retarded.
Some of those weapons should be accessible to Vanguard. Even the Sword should be accessible to all the classes.
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>>551254093
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>>551247607
If the tabletop is anything to go by; heavy bolter and bolt pistol
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>>551256286
SO BUY THE HEROIC HEAVY BOLTER??
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>>551255931
The Flesh is Weak!
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>>551256859
As someone who bought the Heroic Heavy Bolter, leave it for the absolute last thing you buy.
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Is anyone up for a couple games? I've done the weeklies and everything, but I'm down for whatever. I'll even play, God Emperor forgive me for uttering such a blasphemous name, V*rt*x, if that's what you want.
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>>551258792
lol. I distinctly remember there were anons calling death's grasp trash on par with the heroic heavy bolter.

the fact that both of those dropped at the same time is crazy
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>>551257745
God it looks terrible to me. Give me a sec and I'll find one with more pixels.
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>>551258940
Did you run the daily dorito missions? I'd be down to do the normal ones since theres less room for error and its more chill.
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>>551259104
I heard Grasp is bugged with Chaos and sometimes the gunstrike doesn't show up. I haven't bought it, but I do have the HHB and it's just not worth it imo. The Heroic Plasma is better than everything else he has, so everything else is kind of a waste now. I used to like the Accuracy Heavy Bolter.
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>>551259297
I haven't done any of the dailies.
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>>551259303
death's grasp is absolutely worth it. I haven't noticed that bug but if its happening I didn't even notice it in this weeks weekly stratagems. Its just so fucking good.
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>>551259560
I'd be down to run them in like 10. let me just use the restroom
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>>551259258
Hope this one is better.
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>>551259819
What the fuck is with all the pixels???
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>>551259819
I just realized that's Stronos in the middle there. Man I hope we get to see more of him.
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>>551259839
You made me laugh anon.
>>551259970
Same, dude is cool as shit.
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>>551259806
Anon, are you kill?
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>>551260820
no i just enjoyed taking a fat shit.
Anyway
code - CAXSP
I've never used this before
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It's Tuesday night, is the new weekly out yet?
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>we cant do deathwatch armor from the prologue because we play as primaris
>even though the models are the same size
fucking retarded ass reason for not getting the sick ass
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>>551143432
Blood Ravens and Storm Wardens are my favorite chapters
Entirely because I like the color schemes
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>>551256286
These are Techmarine’s datamined weapon choices
Not sure what the Plasma Exterminator is, might be a modified Plasma Incinerator that Tac has
>>551258792
I unironically like the Heroic Heavy Bolter. I don’t think it’s quite as good as the accuracy variant, but the majority of the fighting on Absolute+ will be done at close enough range that the spread doesn’t matter, and it’s best (unlisted for some reason) trait is the fact that it has 0 spin-up time to reach max RPM. This lets you squeeze more burst damage in between long enemy combos and parrying.
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code - CAXSP
doing daily dorito termination on normal
last one
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i like green
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>>551267382
SO WHY WERE DRESSED AS FALLEN????
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>>551267472
i wanted to mimic the deathwatch
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>>551267982
That was not proper heraldry for the Deathwatch. The Dark Angels' symbol is now white. Red indicates Pre Heresy/Heresy era Legion colors. A proper Dark Angel Deathwatch would have the green pauldron with white iconography. There's a bit of leeway with the trim, I believe you're allowed to change the color to indicate company.

I'm starting to think you guys aren't actually autistic.
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My favorite chaos warband is the Crimson Slaughter
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>>551270854
I think Chaos Warbands are kinda retarded. There's not enough difference between them to really make a difference. I get the idea that they're fractured forces, but when the only differences are like, the name and what hole they fuck you in, there's no impact. At the end of the day, every World Eaters war band is going to be red screamy man, every Death Guard warband is green stinky guys, except that one that kills EVERYTHING to leave no life behind whatsoever. Every Night Lords wb is the torturer mad man group, every Thousand Sons wb is the magic using faggot group. They don't ever do enough to have a really distinguished culture because they're so dominated by what flavor of Warp Faggotry they partake in. You'll never have calm World Eaters or not sadistic Night Lords or non diseased Death Guard.
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>>551269958
nta so I don't really know what you're referring to, but Dark Angels do not indicate company by pauldron trim; it goes on their left kneepad. Pauldron trim is either green or some bronze/gold.

Deathwing Dark Angels who go in the Deathwatch retain their bone white shoulder with the red broken sword symbol (which unfortunately doesn't exist in-game). There's imagery in the DW codex of a Deathwing in black armor with a bone-white right shoulder plate. Ravenwing in the DW are also supposed to retain their winged symbol on the right shoulder but I've never seen art of it.
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>seven Chaos stratagems available
lmao what a disaster, time to nope out of these until February
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>>551275815
How many blue doritos do you have?
Is there a cap? I want to horde till the next update to buy at least 2 heroics
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>>551275941
>Is there a cap?
yes, 1k
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>>551264073
>Plasma Exterminator
It's probably this one, but I'm not sure if it's the same one, tho.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Plasma_Exterminator
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>>551275561
The Deathwing use white and red, but red and black is their old color scheme. They no longer use this color scheme as they traded it for green when Caliban was destroyed to symbolize the forests the planet was known for. The exception to this being the Deathwing who's armor is white with red. Wasn't sure about the armor trim though as a lot of DA artwork has them with gold accents, but still. You wouldn't ever see a Deathwatch Dark Angel with a black pauldron and red symbol.
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>save tactical for last
>most guns are at level 1
help
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>>551276732
>saving the best class for last
Retard.
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Anyone up for the weekly?
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>>551277092
I helped an anon out earlier today but yeah sure
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>>551277092
Me too! Me too!
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>>551277092
Post the code.
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>>551277092
Post code dumb nigger.
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>>551275164
Warbands exits so you can make your dudes.
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Alright, not the first guy but let's try weekly hard
>DX9HR
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>>551278647
The lore behind them is still really weak.
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Room for one more
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I'll give it another minute before we'll let some rando join up
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>>551278730
The lore behind is that chaos space Marines hold no loyalty to anyone. So they are prone to breaking up into smaller groups. While theoretically they can number into the tens of thousands you'll find that most will on have a few hundred and some human cultists at best.
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>>551276732
Leveling priority for Tac guns:
1: Pyreblaster
2: Plasma Incinerator
3: Stalker Bolt Rifle
4: Bolt Rifle / Heavy Bolt Rifle
5: Everything else
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>>551278679
This guy is a console nigger.
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>>551278927
wait, give me 3 minutes
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Drop me a code niggas
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>>551279141
What about vanguard
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>>551278963
Yeah, but they're always just gonna be 1k Sons but slightly different. There's no wild off shoots like with how the Mortifactors are to the Ultramarines being Emperor worshiping and shamanistic, or how the Necropolis Hawks are Raven Guard successors that don't do stealth and instead are balls to the wall tactical breachers who specialize in cqc in urban warfare.
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>>551279182
Yeah.
Would have cleared it on the first run too if it weren't for this useless sniper that joined halfway through.
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>>551280827
What you described is chapter culture. The chaos Legions usually have a mono culture because they are prideful about being space Marines and see humans as little more the cattle to be herded. Plus Loyalist Space Marine Chapters taken on their home worlds culture helps a lot.
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>console shitter
>can't stop dying despite being an easy stratagem
>keeps shouting for the emperor
>stay silent despite knowing it was a doomed game
why it's so hard to be an asshole in this game
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Any codes?
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>>551280801
1: Instigator Bolt Rifle (for the heroic)
2: SMG Bolt Carbine
3: Melta Rifle
4: Occulus Rifle
This one isn’t as cut and dry tho, the first 3 are all roughly as good as eachother
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What should I consoom next?
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>>551281413
Code?
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>>551282152
Why does the occulus suck?
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>>551282383
Its a shit bolter that does not mesh well with the Vanguard's playstyle

Before the heroic the Instigator sucks harder and the base version still sucks harder than the Occulus

90% of the time Vanguards run the full auto bolt carbine, the Melta rifle only gets used when certain stratagem modifiers are in effect (mainly the increased close ranged damage one)

The heroic Instigator is good but not enough to supplant either the full auto bolt carbine or the melta rifle
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>>551281696
Well them having a mono culture is what makes them boring. You have one Khorne worshipper on the far side of the Ultima Segmentum and compare him to one from Segmentum Pacificus and they're the same down to the paint job. It hardly makes any sense even without adopting human culture. Why NOT have a Night Lord band that says "fuck stealth" and turns into a heavy artillery warband that likes blowing shit up?
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>>551275164
Veteran World Eaters are actually calm and don't scream like noobs, the reason being they already got that out of their system during the Heresy and the CSM civil war the ensued not too long after.

The other two don't exist though, they're pretty much caricatures. The closest thing to a non-sadistic NL is like that fag who heavily focused on psychological terror but still sadistic to some degree, at least he's not wearing human skins like the others or don't turn humans into musical instruments like ECs do.
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>lvl1 templar tact with an assault bolter
>underleveled p0 snipers
>bulwarks out the ass
>meanwhile
>just get 1 competent tact
>him and me clear the entire level without too much trouble and having 1 dead bot slot
hard strats should be level-locked
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>>551281920
Despite what other anons in this general think, calling random people niggers doesn't actually improve your chances for victory, nor does it make you feel better.
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>>551282327
Just beat it.
I had no less than 5 fucking people leave me as the last brother standing but I got it done. Christ alive, people have no idea how to fight Chaos.
Even had a genius thunder hammer bulwark be an unsurprising liability.
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>>551283659
>game states that melee weapon damage is reduced
>"bro how about I pick a bulwark"
I can't with these people. I feel like strats would be much easier if every player in those had basic mechanical knowledge and the ability to read
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>>551282990
night lords arent a stealth legion, like ravenguard, its just stealth is the easy way to scare people; they liked using volkite for the express purpose of causing people to explode, which is pretty scary, in the rare instances they actually manfight someone. not to mention every legion has different companies for specific purposes, mechanized, scouts, tactical, and these companies are usually become warbands in the present, lead by their praetors
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>>551284208
I could keep throwing ideas out all day. The point is, warbands are boring and the writing isn't creative.
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>>551284546
except its not, half the stuff you want already exists
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>>551282291
The heroic fister is fun
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>>551284819
Where are the shock and awe Night Lords or normal Death Guard? Warbands suck and are boring to me, blow it out your ass if you don't like my opinion.
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>>551282291
Xenophase blade and the fist are both good. Rest is meh
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>>551286176
>normal Death Guard
That's just an undivided warband or renegade chapter.
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>>551286176
>shock and awe Night Lords
sop for night lords, if a mech company survived and was able procure the resources to maintain their motorpool they would still have it post heresy, and would still do it
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>>551286483
Except the Death Guard were notably more durable than other marines even before they were corrupted and had tons of chemical weaponry. That'd be pretty interesting instead of a normal blade and bolter undivided warband. In the Pale King, the Death Guard wield a special kind of living Warp fire that actively seeks out targets. Give me some chemical warfare guys who disdain Nurgle but still fight the Imperium.
>>551286627
Yeah, it'd be nice if they were in a story, but nah, every NL group does the same shit.
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>>551286992
they had a few during pre heresy, but lost most of everything during the scouring, outside of black legion, iron warriors, or red corsairs, warbands dont have to ability to maintain an extensive motor pool anymore
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>>551286992
Just pick one of the poorly detailed warbands that don't worship nurgle and you think have a fitting color scheme.
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No codes? Is everyone on Asia/Kangaroo time celebrating Christmas Eve?
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>>551289090
I thought the servers were down for maintenance.
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>>551288308
Absolute best color scheme.
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>>551289090
I cleared the hard weekly with randoms. A fucking level 9 0p Heavy and a 20 3p Tac who got flatlined in the 2 minutes he was there. Had a Helbrute in the chapel which killed the Heavy, but the bot clutched up and revived me so I could finish the last 10th of its health. Sometimes, no matter how bad the situation, it's better to just let it ride.
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>>551290081
I've died twice now because I think I'm out of range of a red barrel and then it blows up three more that were somehow 10 miles behind me.
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>>551290362
I just avoided shooting them entirely.
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>>551291239
Tell that to my team mates.
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>>551291418
There’s no friendly fire though right? Teammates blowing up barrels shouldn’t damage you, just stagger you.
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>>551291785
Your team getting themselves killed is still an issue.
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Maintenance is up
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BRO I WAS ON THE LAST FUCKING ALTAR TOO
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are hard strats even using absolute spawn logic anymore? there are times i'm getting singular extremis and only one terminus spawn
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>>551292838
Get fucked slow poke.
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>>551292843
Yeah. Just like Absolute, sometimes I get no Terminus spawns on a Hard Strat. Sometimes you just get lucky.
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>>551292843
Saber dialed the Terminus spawns down after getting blasted for weeks for guaranteed double Terminus spawns.
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Easiest stratagem ive played
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the slavoid devs should have left a clean mk7 and mk8 event, 2x accolade/requisition points, double siege mode rewards and 5x pvp, pve, weapon xp event up until the first week of january 2026
this way all the low level shitters will be max level at the bare minimum
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>>551294798
posts like this are how servitors are made
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>Christmas Eve
>all the drug fucked console faggots who go down before we even reach the first elevator are on
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>>551283659
>mfw watching the bulwark miss every parry
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>Maintenance during christmas
>Garbage event for christmas
do the devs hate FUN by any chance?
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Took me 4 tries on hard, holy shit randoms are retards who keep shooting barrels.

Merry Christmas you filthy niggers!
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>>551283756
plasma pistol with heroic fist, heal banner and ammo perk for extremis melee kill. just dont run out of ammo when the hellbrute shows up
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>15 seconds in
>already one retard with a mortal wound for shooting barrels
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>>551319795
I had 2 randoms with a wound before the first lift...one shot a barrel while he's nearby and the other was a Heavy with a Pyrecannon who killed himself with those plasma barrels.

2nd game I literally had a Tactical with a Pyreblaster quit when a Helbrute appeared inside the summoning room.
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>>551319959
Not gonna lie but these modifiers are pretty gay chaos is so unfun to go against
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>>551320080
Previous week was even worse 2bh, it was a fucking slog.
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>autokick
assault (as usual)
bulwark
vanguard who keeps meleeing
>votekick if running a certain build
sniper with heroic bolt sniper (useless in mass chaos spawn fights)
tactical with aligned aim
heavy with additional supplies or bonds of brotherhood
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>>551320701
would you kick me?
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>>551320701
>tactical
kick
>assault
kick
>vanguard
kick
>bulwark
kick
>sniper
kick
>heavy
kick
>host
kick
>player
kick
>brought the game
kick
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>join mid progress weekly
>tac taken so go bulwark just to help with ranged nigger spam
>intimidating aura chunking enemies
Interesting seems like bulwark is the way to go even with reduced melee damage
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>>551322724
see >>551283535
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>>551323146
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>551323357
blacks don't worship tzeentch
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>>551320701
>heavy with additional supplies
Think you mistyped here, I think you meant to type encompassing aegis instead
Your friendly neighborhood heavy needs additional supplies to keep the heroic plasma he’s carrying you with stocked up
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>>551320701
reason number bajillion to never use a code posted here or play with anybody from this general
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>>551319795
Lol I dont even understand how people are dying to the barrels explosions. My run yesterday had some consoleni66er dying on repeat until he rage quit or flat out left from embarrasment. And yeah I have crossplay enabled
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>>551334874
We cleared the reliquary just fine a couple days ago.
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>>551335353
see >>551283535
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I've only been playing for a month but bulwark is definitely my favorite PvE class. Just prestiged last night and got the extra charge damage perk. How meta are they overall?
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>>551337638
A tier: Heavy, Bulwark
B tier: Tactical
C tier: Assault, Vanguard
D tier: Sniper
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>>551337991
Vanguard bros why are we so disrespected by /sm2g/?
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>>551283535
Works on my machine, nigger.
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>>551336559
Redditor detected
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I don't know how people here play to argue Sniper is bad, are they consolefags who cant aim?
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>>551339898
Because we play hard strats and absolute, not minimal.
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Do my eyes deceive me or did those complete cocksucking fucking morons actually pull the entire game down for maintenance on Christmas Eve and Day, aka the one time of year when people are statistically most likely to be at home with free time. I'm continually shocked by the decisions these drunken fucking idiots continue to make, SM3 is going to be a stillborn dud.
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>>551340036
So it was a skill issue on your part then
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>>551340232
Steam seems to be shitting itself
>>551340471
Yeah, it's a skill issue you are stuck on minimal.
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>>551340232
Games Workshop should put their foot down and take SM2 and SM3's development from the slavoids at Saber and give it to Creative Assembly.
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>>551339898
It's slept on.
I ran this week stratagem missions on heavy with assault and sniper and the damage numbers were ridiculous, even the hellbrute who spawned got melted quick.
You dont even need to run a bolt sniper.
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>>551340576
>continues to strawman cope
So far I haven't seen anyone post higher damage numbers than I get on my sniper in absolute
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>>551339898
Sniper is not bad

Heroic bolt sniper rifle is shit against Chaos since players instantly freeze and freak out when they can't headshot Chaos Spawn

Carbine, Stalker bolt rifle and Las Fusil are fine in this hard stratagem but I rather have a Vanguard with the heroic Instigator, Heavy and Tactical
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>>551339898
single target isnt good enough. the other classes all deal aoe damage which is what matters. even vanguard has his grapple hook minigame. sniper is only good at babysitting noobs by killing thropes and reviving them or setting up executes. you can beat absolute with any class or weapon or perk set up, but heavy on absolute is about as challenging as assault or sniper on ruthless
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There is a weird anti-Sniper bias here recently though
It only started a month or two ago, when a lot of new players got the game?
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This general went from kicking Assaults to kicking Snipers..
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>>551340881
>it’s the “AOE” damage is all that matters guy who bought the game a month ago and doesn’t understand it again
You should try to vary your posting style so you don’t always immediately out yourself and your arguments
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I like playing sniper because you can pick off all the annoying ranged enemies that the melee specialists normally die to. I've lost count on the amount of times I watch an assault or bulwark get 1-tapped by a minimum range salvo from a nid warrior. I also run with a melta pistol to avoid getting swarmed by minoris chaff
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>>551341087
whats the counter argument? i have prestiged all the classes and clear absolute chaos and nidder missions with any of them. sniper does not perform well, hes a very safe option since hes the invisible man and you can heal any time you want with the perk, but it would take you a 10 times longer than heavy or bulwark to clear 8 warriors
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>>551340901
No, when Chaos Spawns got added.
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>>551340901
It's just the hyperbolic nature of how people talk about everything. Nothing is ever kinda undertuned, it's always "unplayable, unviable, shit-tier, f-tier, kick-tier" blah blah. Sniper's scoped weapons are not good against Chaos majoris, that is true, but the class is broadly fine. They'd be better off making the head hitboxes bigger and more consistent rather than buffing Sniper. Any marksman-style class from any game would struggle against Chaos because of that issue, their heads are too fucking small.
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>>551341791
Hint: Pyreblaster and Plasma Incin are not Tac’s best weapons because they do AOE damage
Hint: Vanguard’s best weapons do not do AOE damage
Hint: Heroic Heavy Plasma is not Heavy’s best weapon because it does AOE damage
Hint: Bulkwark is not a top tier class because he does AOE damage
You see weapons that happen to do AOE damage doing well and decide that it must be because they do AOE damage, you’re like a developer who balances via a spreadsheet without any real understanding of the game
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Is anyone playing the game or is it bitch and moan day?
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>>551348545
>Is anyone playing the game
I thought the grinch put in maintenance mode
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>>551348545
>>551349357
Steam has been down for a while. Not sure if it's back up
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Running the normal daily dorito missions 3x
VPV2X

Might do the hard ones later if anyone is down, but it depends if my friends get on for vermintide 2
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>>551350292

Post another code, this isn't working.
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>>551350612
Here's a new one.
ZUBH7
I'll give it like 5 minutes, if no one joins im just gonna queue the matchmaking
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I see what you guys mean. Fuck's sake, how hard is it to keep shit working?

>>551351219
Sorry if I can't join. I'm getting booted after only like a minute.
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>>551351356
Try it again.
If it doesn't work then I'm not too sure why it wouldn't.
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>>551341228
How the fuck is a bulwark dying to anything ranged when they have a huge shield?
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>>551339898
Sniper requires an extremely disproportionate amount of skill and effort to be as valuable as if you had heavy just blasting into a group with a heroic plasma cannon, so he's not good for most people.
Objectively he's excellent in most situations except for helbrutes with a skilled player.
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>>551354987
ever played a single chaos mission ever?
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>>551354987
How the fuck is a bulwark dying to anything ranged when they have a huge shield?
Not that anon but sometimes the game throws so much bullshit at you from all sides at the same time that you just end up dying to it, regardless.
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>>551354987
The shield only deflects shots on the front, the Bulwark still has 3 sides exposed...
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>>551356009
You're a god.
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>>551337991
Maybe if you keep saying it it'll come true.
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>>551356009
Even if people are just bad and don't want to click on heads with the heroic BSR or fusil against chaos they can just take the carbine and brrt into them and kill them super fast still. While also using block/heroic knife shadow stabs to kill meatballs. Then there's the very good perks sniper gets like generating infinite ammo, infinite grenades, curing all his CHP with the click of a button (and also getting i frames and losing all aggro when he does) and you can do this borderline infinitely if you just do the melee cancel tech.

Anyone who says sniper is bad betrays themself.
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>>551354987
Enraged tyranids with the scatter gun can catch people off guard if they're inexperienced (or bad) since you cannot stagger them properly. Which means they keep shooting you while engaged in melee unlike normally when you interrupt them.
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wtf season pass 2 is a complete ripoff
it has way less items than the first one.
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>>551360116
If this game had good design, getting close to ranged enemies would force them into melee instead of this "Hhhuurrmmm maybe I'll throw out a hit, or maybe I'll backpedal and continue firing my gun :^)" buillshit. Don't even get me started when there's more than one Devourer around you.
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>>551362467
Is it really too much to ask you to pay attention for 1 of 2 possible outcomes? If the enemy isn't going for a melee, he's probably getting ready to shoot. It's not rocket science.
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>>551360917
I'm pretty sure season 2 was not in the cards when they released this
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>>551356009
Now let's see a screenshot with real players
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>>551364986
Bots don't pick up items.
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New leg goes nicely with the Sanguinius chest from the Blood Angels cosmetic pack.
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>>551331397
>Your friendly neighborhood heavy needs additional supplies to keep the heroic plasma he’s carrying you with stocked up
Genuine shitter skill issue.
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>>551345070
>Hint: Pyreblaster and Plasma Incin are not Tac’s best weapons because they do AOE damage
if aoe damage spread out evenly on the targets hit then these weapons would be shit
>Hint: Vanguard’s best weapons do not do AOE damage
his aoe damage comes from chaining grapple executes, has nothing to do with his weapons. occulus is the best bolter in the game
>Hint: Heroic Heavy Plasma is not Heavy’s best weapon because it does AOE damage
if aoe damage spread out evenly on the targets hit then these weapons would be mediocre. heavy's weapons are just plain over powered, their only draw back was the ammo cost but then they gave him infinite ammo.
>Hint: Bulkwark is not a top tier class because he does AOE damage
bulwark would be worse than assault if they removed intimidating presence and fist

the game was designed around ruthless difficulty. to make the game "harder" they added more majoris and extremis spawns. plasma vs one warrior is identical to fighting 4 warriors, but if you use a bolter you need to use 4x as much ammo and take 4x longer. this is why aoe is so over tuned, plus you dont even have to aim them.
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>>551338113
Makes sense really. Vanguard needs to use he grapple to chain executions. Problem is everyone either kills every majoris at range or executes them.
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>don't have a single mod installed
>join random game
>get kicked with this message

wtf...?
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>>551323357
It means that that anon was trying to defend Thousand Sons from another anon calling them niggers. Somebody call Ordo Hereticus!
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>>551375661
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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>>551363206
Yeah I know you can avoid it but having to rollsloppa around because it chose to continue shooting at you isn't fun.
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>>551375661
this just happened to me too about 30 seconds ago and I came here to complain about it. god only knows what the fuck is going on yet again with this game's infrastructure.
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Has any madman tried to had hard stratagems to their daily routine?
You can buy a new heroic every 4 days...
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>>551126516
Space Marine's updates ended, nearly 10 years before Space Marine 2 was announced.
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>>551378062
Too many unfun stratagems and not enough fun heroic weapons for that.
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assault would be unplayable vs ch*os without the invincibility prestige perk (that vanguard gets for free)
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Are servers still fucked?
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>>551363494
Yeah I understand that, but this season pass model is such a joke. This is why I put off buying them for so long. I pulled the trigger on the first one but I sincerely do not see the point in buying the second one.
They should just abolish this and make them all indepedent DLC.
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FUCK. I'm new to this and just got banned for mods that I never installed. What do I do? Fully uninstall and delete any leftover data? That won't mess with my actual file right?
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my game crashes on splash screen with no errors. when i finally got it working i had to play in offline mode then it crashed mid nidder purge
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so is this a steam or a sm2 issue?
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>>551384059
If I completely uninstall my game and any files from my PC and re-install, can I get my progress back or am I just fucked?
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>>551384854
>Update
amazon web services are down, saber is reliant on those and steam servers.
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i started using non block for the heroic power fist, but i dont like it very much. but the balanced chainsword and balanced axe are pretty fun with my perk set up. now trying the powersword and its really strong. cant wait for servers to come back to
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so is online gayming back?
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>>551392318
MOD USERS WILL BE PURGED

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INNOSENSE
ONLY DEGREES OF GUILT
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>>551393307
it was just a mod to autoban xbox players, i'm so sorry!!!!
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Wouldn't leandros get booty blasted over the coop squads having to stand in the altars to remove them?
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>>551394761
Yes but none of them calmly schooled him on being an ultramarine after being ratted out to the inquisition and he's carried that ever since.
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Well this sucks
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This next year can we not have people complain in the general about having to carry shitters and whatnot. it's the most fun having to carry people and showing off how much of a beast you are. i dont want to see faggots crying about other players skill in the general anymore. complaining about saber is another story; do that as you please.
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>>551397273
my clitty gets hard when i ground pound to rescue people
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>>551397273
imo it has more to do with how unfun hard stratagems are.
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>>551397273
I only like showing off to similarly skilled players. The praise of those beneath me is like the attention of a dog. Of course I'm better than them, I'm me and they are themselves. What sparks joy is earning the praise and respect of my peers and betters.
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does the game work yet
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>>551400929
space marine 2 is kill
forever
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This is fucking embarassing. If you have an AWS issue don't hide it behind another apparently hilariously common issue (modfaggots giving you AIDS).
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>>551397441
>delete his entire armor supply
>"here! i rescued you! no need to thank me!"
this is your brain on assault

on an unrelated note - merry christmas, /sm2g/, Christ is king
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Merry Sanguinala, brothers.
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>>551320701
>kicking anyone for any reason other than griefing
you're not good enough to play with me
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Merry Christmas (Sanguinala) and all the best Brothers!
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The only worship should be the old faith, every other worship is formed on a lie.
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tapped into a fragment of the power of the raptor guy itt
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>>551421121
This is how fast you should be shooting anyway, bad players take seconds to aim just once hence why Sniper is a throw pick even with the heroic.
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>>551421295
You should be firing as quickly as the gun allows? You sound like someone who should be giving advice on the heroic sniper rifle.
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Merry Sanguinala!
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>like trying new toons using heroic weapons to get an easy bump at lower levels
>mfw tactical
So how BAD is the combi melta?
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>>551432150
It's not bad, its a normal bolter with a melta rifle attached
normal bolter is a bad gun but not the melta rifle
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Is there any point in using anything besides the power fist on bulwark? It's just so fucking cool.
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>>551432150
It's fine. would you people shut the fuck up, doomposting about every off-meta item like you can't even do Average with it, holy shit.
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>>551432150
I like it, after the buff it’s pretty good, I would only hesitate to use it on certain hard strats
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>>551432150
Bolters are fine if you're actually able to aim properly to squeeze out headshots. The issue is that the skill floor for the Melta and Plasma is generally lower than for the Bolters, so the average bad player is incentivized to take those
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>>551434915
Regular bolters are not viable in Absolute, they simply take too long to kill Majoris+ enemies even compared to the other bolters even with headshots.
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why arent there las weapons for tac or heavy besides sabre being lazy muscovites, or do they not exist in-universe
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>>551439072
SM1 had lascannons but for Primaris Muhreens they're a vehicle/turret mounted weapon

Boltgun made up an experimental Neo-Volkite rifle

When Terra was unified and there were only Dork Angels in the tens of thousands everyone was armed with Dark Age of Technology Volkite weaponry, bolters existed but were seen as crude

Only when the Great Crusade became fuckhueg did everyone started using bolters en masse with the Solar Auxilia eventually retiring the OP Volkite guns to only officers while everyone was armed with hotshot lasguns
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>>551439072
The only las weapon space marines regularly used was the lascannon, it was an anti-armor weapon exclusively used by devastators(heavies), primaris don't use it. It's like a las fusil except it's an AT gun instead of a sniper rifle.
Conventional lasguns as small arms are generally rather pathetic and not suited to the high firepower requirements of space marines.
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>>551414447
>Christ is king
Hello? Ordo Hereticus? I'd like to report a heretic.
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>>551432989
Use whatever you like on any class you want, anon. Unless it's a non-sniper bolt weapon or a combat knife on a class that can take other stuff.
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>>551441796
It’s okay. The Emperor was Jesus.
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>that one guy who plays PVP
lol I'm that guy
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>>551441796
>heretic
Hello newfag

>Gilgamesh
>Darius I
>Odysseus
>Alexander the Great
>Jesus
>Constantine XI (where he permanently fucked off to the Himalayas)
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>>551444173
>>551444950
So you think it's OK to call Him a name that is irreverent of his full glory, and demean him by calling him a "king" which is less than "Emperor"?
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>>551444950
>Emps told a hobo he wished he was him
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>>551445938
Jesus is the King of Kings, which is applicable to the Emperor, and puts him above all else.
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>>551445938
Look, I grew up in a household in which we celebrate new years like good commies and let me tell you there is really no reason to get triggered by a christcuck giving you wellwishes on a pagan holiday, especially one that is all about gift-giving.
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https://youtu.be/E10PkVk5AZ0
Friendly reminder that Huron did nothing wrong
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>lose the wave 15 round on NORMAL because I have idiots who summon the dreadnought an entire round before the 3 hellbrutes

Sometimes I forget that space marine 2 players are like 10 times more dumb than vermintide/darktide players.
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>>551456119
Code? I need to get the white weapon skins for my Iron Hands.
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>>551447256
Just a lil bit of roleplay. Not like christcucks aren't just playing pretend with their religion either.
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>>551449653
He was right, but he eventually did plenty wrong. Someone less of a dick would be able to come out on top before greedy retards started sending other space marines at him.
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>>551449653
He evaded taxes, that's wrong enough
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>>551456119
Just post codes if you want to get the helmet or are just playing longer siege mode.

Randoms dip at wave 5 95% of the time, the rest at wave 10.
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servers work yet?
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Sniper looks nice and I realize it's because his cape obscures most of his horrible armor model and it kind of makes me wish I could put him in a big poncho.
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>>551465421
They’ve been working
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>>551466062
No sniper ponchos, but you can pay to put a chapter specific "poncho" on bulwark, who's already wearing the best looking variant of MK10 armor (tacticus).

Also sniper's permanently stuck wearing phobos armor, because "class identity". Even though your squad's classes in pve are easily checkable.
And in pvp, where easily readable classes would actually fucking matter, half of everyone, and all of everyone in helbrute onslaught, are chaosfags that've always broken those rules. And they break them like fucking crazy now that you've been able to kitbash them since the last major update.
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redpill me on chapter masters? which are the most kino masters?
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>>551469761
Pedro Kantor of the Crimson Fists is pretty cool.
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>>551469761
>Based
Tyberos
Asterion Moloc
Gabriel Angelos
Dante
Marneus Calgar
Kayvaan Shrike*
Pedro Kantor

>Cringe
Helbrecht
Logan Grimnar
Azrael
Gabriel Seth

>you might as well not exist
Gregor Dessian
Kardan Stronos
Aethon Shaan*
Jubal Khan
Tu'Shan
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>do the hard weekly first
>que for the normal
>join already started game
>alright this should be easy....
>one dude with a mortal wound before the first elevator
COME ON
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>>551475419
just post codes
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christ on a crutch that weekly shouldn't have taken half as many tries as it did but every fucking match ended up with me having to solo at least a third of it
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>>551475794
Just post codes if you haven't beaten it

Randoms are retards who shoot barrels, freeze and quit when a Terminus spawns and can't figure out the elevator puzzle near the end if it happens
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All missions giving the same xp was a mistake.
I can just join absolute missions even at level 1 as long as they are decapitation or extermination
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>>551475916
>hard weekly
>keep running into space wolf vanguards with fucking inner fire
>or heavy bolter heavies with additional supplies
>had a heroic plasma heavy join, but he left
>between the multiple extra tanky and extra deadly soulreaper terminator spawns and all the sorcerors filling the room with rubrics and homing ghosts, helbrute fights are literally impossible unless you have a decent team
Fuck this.
6NPPG
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>>551481786
2/3
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>>551483037
Did you beat it?
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is there a penalty for not engaging with enemies before taking a lift?
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>Disconnected
Either I got kicked early or you guys lost...
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>>551485461
Like eight million meatballs spawned and i was completely dry on ammo
tried to have bot pick up but evidently didn't work
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>>551485212
We got incredibly lucky and no terminus spawned.
Didn't even get the elevator puzzle.
Then we got to literally the final altar, two of us and a bot, and the game fucked us with like 15 chaos spawn.
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GG, brothers.
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ggs
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Can you really say you hard carried if you didn't do >40K ranged or melee damage?
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>>551487716
>>551487885
do you have your gamma at max level?
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>tfw just did my carry at level 1
bros... am I finally good?
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How does my Lamenters Deathwatch Marine look?
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>>551492557
You know, I don't think I've fiddled with the brightness settings since launch.
According to the pattern visibility tests, they were actually set way brighter than they were supposed to be.

Good call, Anon.
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>>551496871
I don't like the knee plates, the chest is eh, and all the MKX helmets suck.
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>>551496871
Why are your legs green and red
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>>551496871
It looks very good.
Only thing that I personally would change, is the right arm. I think if you regenerated your dude's arm, it would make him look more balanced overall in terms of color, while making the similarly colored deathwatch pieces on his left side more distinct.
I recommend the inquisition insignia gauntlet from the ordeal rewards if you don't mind only one gauntlet having metalic trim. Otherwise I'd say go with the chain. Tac's chain is really skinny though, so I'd just go for the standard starter gauntlet instead.
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>>551502304
>It looks very good
Stop lying to the boy. He's already a blood faggot, don't make him grow up even more gay.
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>>551496871
Deathwatch (and black templars) are beyond played out.
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>>551503019
It's sanguinala, so I thought I'd be charitable. Honestly I'd change virtually every armor piece, but his build does work for what it is.
Besides, it's his /dude/, he can make him a part of any chapter or other faction he wants.
First priority is codex compliancy (dependent on the chapter), followed closely by style.
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>>551504157
Christmas has been over for 3 hours and 55 minutes. Get back to your work station or by God I shall give you a taste of the whip.
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>>551496871
If you want to get really autistic, he would likely not retain the green company marking on the left knee since these marks don't mean anything in a kill team. Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and other chapters with knee-based unit markings typically get rid of them in the Deathwatch, from the art I've seen.

And the lanyard fastener on the chest has an Ultramarine symbol but maybe don't look too closely.
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I tried to fight the thousand sons but I kept dying.
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>>551469761
carab culln the risen
>get merc'd
>becomes a dreadnought
>not just any dreadnought
>levithan dreadnought
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Here is my Brazen Claws first company veteran
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>>551508174
Looks retarded. A respectable chapter, but Red Talons are cooler.
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>last chance to make a comeback
>this is who gets the Helbrute
I don't know what a team is supposed to do against an even semi-competent Helbrute and a team who knows who play around him. It's like the tank in Left 4 Dead; it's either a run ender or something the survivors set on fire and kite around the arena while they spam the laugh bind.
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>>551511352
You have my sympathies for playing PvP
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>>551511352
If only PvE Helbrutes are this easy
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>>551511352
First Helbrute I got to play as was on that Necron map. I went to the middle of the map and panicked due to tank controls and fell off the map like 15 seconds after I got to play as him, giving points to enemy team for free
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Coming back into the game since like a bit after launch, man there's a good chunk of cosmetics now huh and man more missions are nice. Dunno how you guys rolled up the OC chapter but testing it out the scheme works really well on all the classes except for maybe heavy. Any case got a few questions. Did they ever change assault so that solo with the bots is not an FML scenario? Did the new additions to chaos make it closer in fun to fight as the tyranids? Which heroic weapon should I pick up first? Leaning towards the xenophase blade since bulwark was my most played although I will have to get used to balance timing again after sticking to fencing all this time, alternative would be any of the heavy weapons not my best class but hell they're fun to dick around with.
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>>551512626
Maybe these cosmetics will be usable in PvE, one day...
>>551515209
The best way to play is to fire shots down sightlines from behind your team near the objective.
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>>551514583
ones on substantial are close enough to it
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>>551515334
>Did they ever change assault so that solo with the bots is not an FML scenario?
No. The "buffs" made it very obvious that the devs hate that class.
>Did the new additions to chaos make it closer in fun to fight as the tyranids?
The added enemy types and the new boss made it even worse. Enjoy!
>Which heroic weapon should I pick up first?
Heavy plasma, power sword and instigator bolter are solid picks.
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>>551515383
Just going: yes I want to match against human beings
Makes you certifiably insane
Like some Joker tier shit
Like I spent my evening watching Cromwell (1970) and the Pacific (2010) and you’re still insane
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>>551516550
You can gun down Substantial Helbrutes even with bolters?
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where can i find some updated builds
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>>551521351
For all their attempts to subtly improve balance the only times saber has managed to meaningfully impact meta picks is by either buffing a perk to the stratosphere or by effectively deleting it and replacing it with something else.
And it's not like they're particularly hard to parse anyways.
So chances are they are the same now as before and that you could probably figure them out yourself.
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>>551504498
>christmas
So you're a heretic.
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>>551519073
Pvp is the ultimate test of skill in most games.
Even the hardest AI controlled enemies have attack patterns, but the power of free will gives human controlled enemies an unmatched layer of unpredictability to their actions. There's also a whole new layer of tactics you can employ that would be lost on the hard coded AI, psychological warfare.

Not to dog on my pve brethren, I play the pve more often than the pvp these days, but that's just personally why I play pvp generally.
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How do I stop SUCKING with the Heavy? I get filtered by the dodge/heavy stance thing
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>>551535443
Learn Balanced on Ruthless

Always shoot in heavy stance
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>>551535443
His parries use balanced timing minus the relic heavy bolter that uses fencing timing. The best thing to do is kill everything before it gets to you, and if you're having issues with Tzaangors and Gaunts poking you endlessly, stomp like you're an extra in Candlemass' Bewitched video. Stance generally increases fire rate and accuracy, so you're going to want to use it more often than not, with it being extremely noticeable on the flamethrower
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>>551521351
Many builds are pretty simple to intuit, and even have leeway.
If you want to jump pack dash as assault, pick all his dash perks in the last three columns and go from there. If you wanna focus more on meleeing as tactical, than pick all his melee perks and common sense shit like auto auspex on parries, and go from there.
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>>551535443
Buy the heroic plasma.
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>>551535443
lrn2balanced melee
pick the exploding iron halo perk and conversion field at the very end
unlock heroic heavy plasma immediately
accuracy heavy bolter, always aim for headshots since bolters have a negative modifier if you hit body shots
ammo multimelta (always pick the heavy perk that gives ammo back) and heavy plasma; anything less and you will be starving for ammo especially in large maps
rate of fire pyrecannon
unlock heroic heavy bolter after you've done buying all you want and don't know what else to purchase
ignore the heavy bolt rifle
you can turn on and off your iron halo as long as there are charges
use sidearms for minoris little shits or stomp them
your first prestige perk should be the ammo recoup per extremis execute
2nd one is 200% more stomp damage
3rd one should be added stomp range
4th one is conviction, the other prestige perks are trash
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why are randoms so slow? I swear to God they have no sense of urgency
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why the fuck there are so many uninspired prestige perks? feels like the assault perk that makes you invul in the air is the peak of perk design
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>hellbrute snipes me from behind 12 meatballs
Chaos is so janky compared to the nids. They are on the cusp of being fun to fight, but they have too much ranged bullshit. I actually like chaos spawn, they just spawn in absurd numbers for some reason. If they cut their spawns in half it’d be less annoying.
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>>551545557
Probably easier said than done to fix chaos. There is some token system jank that they have that tyranids don't, e.g. IIRC bolter volleys have a very brief window during which they take up tokens so an enemy group can practically overlap attacks or slip them in between other attacks.
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>>551539094
I'm not in a hurry. Sounds like a you problem.
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>>551545557
>every attack from chaos units being so conveniently timed to hit you while staggered or just before/after the end of an animation cycle that you can't break free of
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>>551460714
>He was right, but he eventually did plenty wrong. Someone less of a dick would be able to come out on top before greedy retards started sending other space marines at him.
I think it's less about being a dick and more about having the misfortune of living in the worst period in Imperial history when it came to getting shit done and not having political clout to brute force the issue. Even during Age of Apostasy Marines were mostly left to their own devices and essentially needed to do the same thing as he did to keep a semblance of order in their domains. First Founding Chapters (or even Second Founding) got away with worse and got a slap on the wrist at worst. By the late M41 however Imperium was in full autistic bureaucratic swing, made even worse by Abaddon actively chimping out and Tyranids and all the other "end of the world as we know it in 5 minutes" bullshit that was going on, so High Lords were extremely unwilling to entertain any stepping out of the line. Similarly, had it happened a century later it's very likely he'd be applauded or at least Guilliman would intercede and fix the situation.
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>>551545557
Chaos spoiled the first game for the same reasons, which is weird since it was a different developer so they both independently made the same bad decision. They both wanted some sort of "surprise" for their campaign narratives, and implemented Chaos in a half-assed careless manner because neither game was designed for them.

Unfortunate that Warhammer's most iconic bad guys consistently don't translate well into other mediums. Every WH game I've ever played, from DoW to Total War to Vermintide, is better without them. SM3 is doubtlessly going to get sullied by their presence as well, when they "surprise" us halfway through the campaign, again.
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>>551555975
The mid-campaign surprise for SM3 should be purple Orks.
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>>551556323
Act 1 = Ork Kommandoz
Act 2 = Eldar
Act 3 = Tau
Act 4 = Necrons
Act 5 = Iron Warriors
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Looks like matchmaking servers are shitting themselves again.
>join a game
>two other dudes leave immediately
>proceed on my own
>one dude joins
>another joins but is instantly kicked
>one more joins
>and that kicks me
>"mods detected"
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>>551561821
sounds like 10 minutes of loading screens alone
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>>551509087
Brazen Claws are cool
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>>551562571
Actually, the only loading screens I had were one when I loaded into the game and then one when it kicked me.
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Power claws when?
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why cant I use the same pauldron on both shoulders?
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Any brother here that has played Rogue Trader? would you recommend it?
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>>551504554
Darius from Titus’ old Kill Team kept his 5th Company knee markings.
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>>551568961
never

>>551569432
they answered why on the community post

>>551572557
its good
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>>551569432
long story short?
>it's not easy guys, it's not just mirroring the pauldrons!
>we need 1000 hrs to do what a modder does in (possibly) a day
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>the modifier either completely removes a core part of your kit, or makes it near-useless that it may as well not even be there anyway
This is genuinely atrocious design.
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>>551574324
So they're just lazy jews?
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friend got me this game, is any of the DLC not just cosmetics?
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>>551576017
It's literally all cosmetics. Just some of them, the "champions", more intricate than the rest.
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>>551576017
>>551576237

It's all DLC. I think the first Season Pass is worth it for the cosmetics, but I'd say hold off on the second one until they release another set because right now its definitely not worth it IMO.
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>>551575591
Yes, they are russians.
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>>551574324
Even on the asymmetric pauldrons that would require a little bit more work than just flipping the mesh, I can't imagine it'd take that long for a competent modeller to make the necessary adjustments so everything is facing the right direction.
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>>551574695
What else would you like?
"Headshots instantly delete enemies up to Extremis and deal double damage to Terminus, but the target area is 75% smaller"?
"All ranged weapons overheat, but their damage is increased the hotter they are"?
"All classes replace their class ability with a jump pack, but new/additional flying enemies now spawn across the map and half of the floor is lava"?
There's not really much you can do with these mechanics.
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>>551576017
No, but at the very least all the substantive content (new missions and weapons) are free.
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>>551575591
>>551578258
Their picture should be put right next to the definition of "lazy" in a dictionary.

They're also incompetent nimrods, especially Grigorenko who's so high on his own farts. it boggles the mind how in the world is he still on his post and not on janitor duty. And it doesn't help that Saber are working on at least a dozen of projects atm.

Great indicator of what's in store for SM3!
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When the new heads come out I hope it comes with the ability to change our Chaos Marines personality in PvP. I can't play an Iron Warrior tactical if he's still prattling on about Abbadon.
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If I had a faster M2 SSD (mine supposedly has 7,000mb/s) would the game load resources faster?
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>retarded console nigger takes 1 year to load in
>leaves the lobby because he only plays tactical
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I'm all for hating consoles, but they literally have faster storage than a majority of PC gamers. This with gen. 4 SSD's are a tiny minority.

When I play on PS5 I see "waiting on battle brothers" on the loading screen so often, even when playing with 2 PC players.
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i love how there won't even be an update but my LoD will still just randomly fuck up and force me to update to new, unstable AMD drivers
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>>551578809
At least all of that puts a spin on the existing mechanics rather than nerfing them into near-uselessness if not removing them outright. Shit like "you can't use gunstrikes now" or "you deal next to no melee damage but at least your ranged damage is increased isn't that cool?" are not fun or interesting.
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>>551563754
You look like a toy.
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>>551578809
Unkillable Lictor is kind of fun, just implemented like shit.
Friendly Fire is fun.
Why does everything have to be ball crushingly hard? Where's the Gaunt Birthday modifier? Can we have an "Oops, all (x)" modifier with like, nerfed versions of an enemy? Where's the big head modifier? How about a IWHBYD that changes all the voice lines to some random shit the dev team recorded with the VA's during a drunk holiday party?

Get creative.
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>>551590467
Russians are many things, but not creative. They're very Indian in that sense
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Daily Hard Inferno.

No Wolves. No Salamanders.

EVGFQ
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>>551594668
I hate this fucking general.
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>>551596173
i was shitting
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>>551597906
E3UMZ
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>>551597906
Did you have to go shit again? Fuck it, don't bother.
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Alright bro I’m finally done shitting I swear I’m done I just took a giant shit bro believe me but I’m definitely done bro just post a code bro I swear I’m done shitting bro I just took a giant fat stinky shit
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>>551601283
actually my roommate got back from vacation so i was talking with him
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wtf are bolt guns supposed to feel like trash in this game? I put the difficulty on angel of death and it literally takes an entire mag dump to kill ONE tyranid warrior, like come on what kind of retardation is this? I thought gaming moved passed this
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>>551602024
wtf is Angel of death difficulty
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>>551604807
the campaign's max difficulty
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Oh boy, are you fuckers done sucking dick now? Can we play the game?
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>>551611127
Who's we? I've been playing plenty
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I hope the sequel sees us finally playing as a traitor marine. They've been fucking dicking titus around being one for 2 whole fucking games and the traitor marines that do show up are lame as all fucking hell.
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Does this game rely on co-op or matchmaking?
Is PvP required?
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FFRBA
Termination daily
2/3
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>>551614187
PvE is like 70% of the game
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>>551614017
Chaos is gay and you’re gay and I hope Chaos isn’t in SM3 at all
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>>551614187
The majority of this game’s content is 3-man co-op missions called Operations
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Skag and Liek are my Battle Brothers.
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>>551616265
that surgical strike was brutal
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>>551616418
Took me a second to get the hang of it, but it basically turns balanced into fencing.
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>>551614187
The campaign is fairly short so a majority of the content is found in the operations game mode for good ol coop fun. Technically you can run it solo with just the AI teammates but at either the 3rd or 4th difficulty you'll see a major decline in their performance except for maybe the heavy AI so you'll need to do a hell of a lot more heavy lifting compared to just matching up with people
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stacking multiple damage bonus modifiers onto each other really lights up how easy the game is when you can actually control the hordes somewhat and keep them manageable when they reach you
when hitting headshots actually bursts a rubricae down in 2 seconds or less you're never swarmed by 20 of them all taking pot shots at you
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>>551618425
As maligned as Aligned Aim is, I really do feel a difference when shooting at things when a Tact has it on.
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>>551619261
i meant stratagem modifiers, the daily has a for the emperor bonus damage and 75% bonus ranged damage at greater than 10m so instigatoring a rubric actually takes a reasonable amount of time
aligned aim somewhat adds up but the issue is that it never adds up more than even a single extra melta bomb in a clutch
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>>551616265
>>551614315
>>551601283
>>551586628
>>551586420
would you say your mum died in the tyranid holly?
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Matchmaking broken or something? Can't seem to load in.
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I tested it.
Split up cancels out camaraderie.
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>>551624595
you needed to test it?
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>>551624595
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>>551624701
Wanted to be sure, on the off chance Saber was based enough to make camaraderie work still.
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>>551624984
>saber
>based
>ever
you know toxic avenger is also going to end up fucked to hell too
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I honest to god tried to recreate a proper Blood Angel Sergeant and that shit was impossible
The customization just isn't good enough to make it satisfying, especially since the smallest things like emblem sizes, positioning or general application cant be adjusted to look better on pauldrons.

I think Im just going to leave my blood angel as is with gold trims and a bunch of cool ornate pieces of armour and call it a day. Quite frankly I'm disappointed.
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>>551627140
I ended up with this, trying to stick reasonably close to the Joytoy figurine while incorporating the DLC items. Assault's knee decals are usually too big and sit too low on the plate so most of them look weird with the bottom cut off.

I had high hopes I'd be able to use some of the BA Champion pieces, but they're all fucked because their colors don't match regular ceramite armor, even the jetpack.
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>>551591352
Russians combine the indian lack of creativity, jewish greed, chinese deceit and american conceit with their own drunk laziness.
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>>551589873
Do... Do you know what 40k is?
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>>551630340
Yeah I am really disappointed that the blood angels champion pieces are both metallic based and have no trim color. I was hoping to use them on my other classes too. I hope they get a touch up like the accolade arms to remove the base metallic color at least
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>>551624770
>decapitation and inferno in the daily hard rotation
>still didn't felt like doing them
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>templars
>lementers
>redditmanders
>smurfs
>blood gayvens
>blood gayngels
Please tell me you don't actually play as these meme chapters, /sm2g/...
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>>551652869
I'm a Carcharodons, chuds are malding
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What is the final hard weekly for this year?
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>>551652869
I'm a proud lementer.
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>>551652869
Don't care
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>>551652869
Of course not, brother.
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>>551652869
I appreciate Salamanders because of an affinity for fire to the point I have burn scars, but their chapter culture isn't anything to write home about. Currently running Emperor's Children inductii, but have Word Bearers and Deathwatch on the backburner
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>>551652869
lol I run all of those besides blood ravens
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>first time trying the explosives modifier
>this should be fun
>starting alone with bots
>enter the first area
>see nid warrior next to explosives
>carefully line up a shot from the other side of the room
>blow it up
>it starts a chain reaction that gets all the way to me
>die
>get rezzed by a bot
>some dude joins
>looks at me already having a mortal wound and low hp
>leaves immediately
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https://youtu.be/eMOe3S0InP0

M A N T I S. W A R R I O R S
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>>551665221
Post codes if you haven't/couldn't beat it
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>>551666553
Nah, I beat it, was just a funny situation.
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You know what’s funny
With all this talk and discussion of 40K, the Emperor, the Primarchs, and all the various named characters, and all the loyal and traitor Legions
This dude is literally the leader of the entire Chaos faction in 40K and no one really seems to give even the slightest shit about him
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>>551671932
>This dude is literally the leader of the entire Chaos faction in 40K
Chaos Undivided =/= the entire Chaos faction
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>>551671932
Failbaddon has been getting clowned on basically since his first crusade
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>>551671932
He's Palpatine but we're at the sequels
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>>551652869
it's wild that people still do this in-universe memefied fanboy faggotry like we're supposed to act like soccer hooligans over our favorite colors.
>heh, don't tell me you actually like something about this franchise
shut up fruitcake, kill yourself. you don't even like the franchise.
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>>551671932
One of the reasons is his beyond-retarded plot armor. In the first book of the Siege of Terra series he goes up against a master swordsman of the White Scars in a 1v1, and the book spends like 3-4 paragraphs gassing this White Scar up, telling you just how good and unbeatable he is. Then Abaddon just instakills him with his power claw cuz “he watched him fight once in the past and learned his moves” or some shit. Abandon should be dead like 243 times now.
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>>551675324
Buttmad son of guiliman LMAO @ ur life ultrasmurf
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>>551676642
chopped uncel using terminology from 15 years ago fr
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>>551671932
Even if he was a great character with great art design (and not a Horace knock-off), you can't keep a villain around for like 20 years, not let him ever do anything cool, and expect him to stay threatening or interesting.
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>>551674671
Somehow......Abaddon has returned.....
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>>551652869
Suck my PTSD riddled dick
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>>551622632
I fucking hope so.
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>>551641871
Just because the models look like shit doesn't mean everything 40k related has to look like cheap 80's saturday morning cartoons.
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>>551684824
>lightning claws
Lightning Claws are by definition a female-coded weapon. What are they if not exaggerated manicured nails?
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>>551685025
I was there for this chapter of the general, use better bait.
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If 40K lore was written today, how many of the Primarchs would be black or minorities?
I’m reading pic related and the black Fist in the top right got me thinking that the only reason the vast majority of the Primarchs are white is that they were created in the 90’s and GW can’t just go back and retcon them. There’s not a chance they’d be like that if they written into existence today.
So which Primarchs would be ethnic besides Jaghatai and Vulkan?
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Hello, this is DECIMUS, reporting from the Kitchenarium. Today, we have cooked TONKATSU!!!

First, a Battle Brutha must take cuts of meat, grox, Tyranid, Ork, whatever you like, though today we have chosen PORK, and cut notches along one side to ensure it does not curl up during the cooking process.

NEXT! Tenderize both sides! Season to your preference..... AH, an interesting choice! I LIKE YOUR STYLE!

Next! Cover the cut of MEAT in FLOUR, then submerge in blended EGG, before finally covering it in PANKO CRUMBS!!! I found better results when the breaded meat was left to sit for a minute or 2 to allow the coating to properly adhere.

NEXT! Cook the meat in OIL! Medium heat, so as not to burn the breading. Use enough to cover the sides. Flip occasionally to ensure a thorough through and through cooking!

FINALLY! Allow the cooked portion to cool on a rack to drain excess grease and for the breading to stick to the meat! I have chosen to serve mine with rice along with a drizzle of Kinder's brand Japanese sauce that contains onions, GINGER, and GARLIC.

Good eating, Bruthas!
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>>551687387
Your meal is lacking. Katsu and rice without curry is like a Space Marine without a bolter.
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>>551687387
Arigatou Decimus-aniki
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>>551689592
I will have to give this a try, next time!
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Just these weapons left to max out:
- Bolt Carbine (Tactical, Vanguard, Sniper)
- Plasma Incinerator (Tactical)
- Pyreblaster (Tactical)
- Bolt Sniper Rifle (Sniper)
- Las Fusil (Sniper)
- Pyrecannon (Heavy)
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>>551686425
Wait until GW brings back one of the missing primarchs as a Woman

You KNOW this is coming...
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>>551692452
Your tonkatsu looks very good. The curry is real easy to make and I usually air-fry or oil-fry my katsu (usually chicken but sometimes beef) while the curry simmers. If you’re worried about using two kinds of meat because it’ll detract from the taste of the katsu you can just make the curry with only onions, carrots, and potatoes and use it like a sauce on the side of the rice and katsu. Good cooking brother.
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>>551687387
Decimus-senpai would probably be a pretty good cook since odds are he was a feral or feudal worlder
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R73FA

Hard Atreus.
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>>551652869
I like Raven Guard and their succesors like the Raptors and Death Spectres.
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>>551686425
Vulkan isn't even ethnic, he's just the blackest White nigga who ever lived. He'd definitely look like this dumbass fanart if he were designed today. Shit, they'd probably all look ethnic since the Emperor of Mankind was born in 8000 BC Anatolia which retards take to mean he must be Turkish.
Wypipo are not allowed to create anything that reflects themselves anymore, they have to placate the imposition hoisted upon them and their countries known as the third world.
>>551692850
We already know for sure that the lost Primarchs were men since the others have explicitly referred to them as such, calling them their brothers.
Then again, I suppose we knew that "for sure" with the Custodes, too. GW could pull some shit out of it's arse about memory erasure or some such fuckery like that.
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I've put 400 hours into this game which is significantly more than I ever imagined I would when I saw the original trailer a year or two ago during that one games show. Howmstever, I would be more inclined to continue to play if they smoothed the game out more instead of
>Open game
>Load screen
>Press to play
>Press to play again
>Load screen
>Join game
>Load screen
>Sorry broken lobby
>Leave
>Load screen
>Join game
>Load screen
>Start game (assuming the other two retards aren't playing dressup for two more minutes)
>Cutscene
>Load screen

You get the idea. If they do end up doing 3 they need to clean it the fuck up.
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>>551702449
What do the Dark Angels have to do with this?
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>>551686425
None

If Gays Workshop are able to retcon and restart everything they'd turn the White Scars into the Chink/Jap faction (them being Mongolian works against them since Chinks and other Asians can't identify with badasses); Salamanders as the brotha faction and kick the Imperial Fists out for the Black Templars

Also demote the Iron Hands as a random chapter and replace their spot with the Blood Ravens
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>>551707773
Fuck you.
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Siege Normal
I just want to see if I can get the corax white skin for the heavy bolt rifle.
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>>551707982
still looking for one more before queue
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>>551707982
On the way.
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>>551707982
Code expired.
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>>551708563
Even worse, the group filled up in less than 10 minutes
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>>551708659
You can't be fucking serious. When I post a code, it's dead silence for hours until I lose my patience, then people start going
>Hurrrr, we aren't ALWAYS in the thread, bwo
They've got time for calling lightning claws gay, making fun of the Iron Hands, or talking about what Primarchs would be race swapped, but the moment I put out a code, fucking space crickets.

When someone else puts out a code, I rush to load up the game and, OOPS NO MORE SLOTS FAGGOT!
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>>551708869
Technically it's calling lightning claw feminine, which they objectively are
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>>551709283
Since you're here, join me for a Siege Normal run. We're gong all the way.

94WF2
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>>551709536
I'm in that earlier code/group lmao
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>>551709770
I hate this fucking general.
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94WF2
Join my fucking game.
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>>551709770
I hope you fuckers wipe.
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>>551711559
The only thing we're wiping is your hopes of getting a group together
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>>551711669
Shut the fuck up, you're not even in a group being able to respond to posts this quick.
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>>551709901
its LOTR night, fag
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>>551711742
Lord of the Rings fucking sucks.
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>>551711737
>what is the elevator between areas
Not to mention some of us actually being smart enough to solve this new captcha in less than 10 seconds
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>>551712069
Post a screenshot with IAmGay in it then. Since it's so quick and easy for you to take your eyes off the game.
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>>551712239
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>>551712742
>>551712239
Holy BTFO
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>>551711886
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>>551712742
>>551712798
Leave me the fuck alone.
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I know we're meant to be playing with real people but by the emperor I swear the sniper bot gets dumber with every patch
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>>551715512
I can play a decent sniper. Post code.
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Why doesn't anyone want to play? :(
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>>551716735
I’m at work and when I get home I’m grinding for glam in FFXIV with my gf
I only play this game once a week to clear the weeklies and that’s it
I’m L25 P4 on every class and have every cosmetic and every weapon fully maxed
I have no reason to play regularly until Techmarine drops
But that aside this is one of the best generals on this shithole website, no waifufags, no deranged spammers or ritualposters, you’re all pretty alright
So here is where I hang out
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>>551717138
I've got all the classes and most of the weapons maxed out too. I just play because the gameplay hits a sweet spot for me. It's like Left 4 Dead, but without as much of a time commitment. Speaking of that, I think I'll just hop on there.
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>>551716735
This is one of those cases of normal being too easy and hard being too fucking hard.
Most people breeze through anything that's not hard mode.
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>>551717804
>normal being too easy
i breezed through today's normal inferno with 54 damage taken, i don't think i ever once took actual HP damage despite getting a carnifex fight
I do not understand why they did this. WWZ the mutators were balanced around hard and insane, difficulty 3 and 4 out of 5, giving them a respectable level of difficulty and difference but not too unforgiving
Instead sm2 is fucking substantial and then absolute+ for no goddamned reason except to split the playerbase
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What happens if you choose to continue after wave 25?
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>>551718757
It just continues on
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>>551707982
>corax white skin for the heavy bolt rifle.
Get it?
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>>551718895
What's the joke?
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>>551719039
This anon >>551713602
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>>551719118
He just wants some games. It is kinda funny that seemingly whenever he's gone, everyone alt tabs lol. Heck, there's like 4 people in here now since he stopped posting.
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>>551711559
No wipes, we just got sloppy at wave 20+
With no more resources and 2 low HP teammates we decided to go home
Wave 25 normal is decent
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How long does it take to reach wave 25?
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>>551724126
Genuinely too long
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>>551724126
Minimum of two hours
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>>551724126
normal = 2 hours
hard = 3-4 hours minimum
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What decides whether the Carnifex swings slow or fast?
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>>551732069
no fucking way people play this for 3 hours straight with the risk of dying being a thing
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>>551732571
In hard mode the waves last as long depending on the entire team's killing speed, in wave 16+ hard an entire round can easily last 30 minutes or more with a guaranteed Terminus spawn with 2 spawns at the maximum.
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>>551732398
Depends on whether or not the Emperor is with you.
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>>551732398
red eyes
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>>551735568
Code?
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>>551735817
i wish the meme had lasted longer
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>>551735817
so anyway, what are you looking for, codeasker? Even if someone from US or Europe joined, the ping would be unbearable to play through hard strats or absolute. myself I haven't played for so long that I don't think I could clear lethal without some practice runs.
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>>551759292
Nothing now. I've been up for 15 hours and I'm about to pass out. I wanted some games for games' sake. It feels good to play with people from here. Maybe I'll try again in a couple days. This place was agonizingly dead all night. I was bouncing between other games, YouTube, light novels, manga, and books while refreshing the page every like 20 minutes and there was nothing.
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>>551671932
He's just not interesting. GW has failed spectacularly to make him an interesting character.
>his OG model was awful
>his new model looks ridiculous (No, GW, you cannot make topknots and manbuns work, get real)
>his past lore is a string of failures
>his new lore retconned the past by turning him into a "just as planned/nu uh" kid at the playing ground
>his new lore also made him into a mary sue by being so strong-willed he's not actually corrupted by chaos, even having ADB (current GW's 40k narrative lead) confirm it in an interview, because it was so stupid nobody believed it was real
>all of the other chaos leaders are more interesting than Abby and have better designs
>he is the face of GW AOS'ing the setting in the future
>in charge of "The Badguy" generic chaos space marine faction who's gimmick is that they have no gimmick (aka chaos ultramarines, except smurfs have that Rome thing going for them)
>thematically (considering that Imperium is not-Rome) he is presented as one of the emperor-generals who rebelled because he thought he deserved to rule because he fought battles (presented as not wanting to actually do anything but fight), making him a narratively-lame antagonist, as half of the rebel general-emperors were the reason Rome they wanted to rule so much fell apart in the lamest way possible, making him a thematic failure as well.
>ZERO Sauce
>ZERO Hype
>ZERO Aura
They really need to replace him with some other chaos lord and start over with setting him up, Abby just doesn't work.
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>>551759292
I've played with people from different regions without any real issues.
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>>551759292
<50 ping = no issues, ur bruders/niggas
100~ ping = skill issue
200~ ping = if east us/eu you're playing with a turd worlder/asian; if west us you're playing with a eurangutan
300+ ping = autokick, poor bloke will get rekt in melee even with fencing and will play a literal powerpoint slide; if he's from this board just politely ask him to leave to spare him the misery

most players here are from the eu with a couple of seanogs and americans, during the first month of release there were codes on every timezone
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>>551778894
>if he's from this board just politely ask him to leave to spare him the misery
you never posted or joined a code.
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Fuck off lmfao.
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>>551782284
Yeah I ain't going to pay for a feature that should've been in the game from the start.

Fuck them sideways for nickle-and-diming people for something like that. I bought Season 1 Pass but with this scummy tactic they won't see my money unless they start including these DLCs for free or as part of season 2 pass.
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>>551782940
I’m gonna buy it
I’ve gotten an insane amount of dollar-per-hour entertainment value out of this game, way more than I ever expected when I got it, I don’t mind tossing them a little more
I absolutely did not expect this game to be one of my most played of 2024
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>>551782284
nothing is more outrageous than calling a fat indian hag "an iconic character from the Campaign"
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>>551783750
Hard to not be one of the iconic characters in a campaign that is about as memorable as dinner in your average alzheimer's home
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inb4 they meant valtus
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Just started Rogue Trader, damn this soundtrack blows SM2’s out of the fucking water
How they managed to make such a boring, unremarkable soundtrack in a genre with banger OSTs like Darktide’s, Mechanicus’, and Rogue Trader’s is beyond me
The guy they hired to make SM2’s soundtrack should never be allowed to produce music again
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>>551782940
You'll be able to unlock it with dlc unlockers anyways so you don't have to sweat it, Brother.
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I used to enjoy Chaos Missions, then Spawn just ruined them for me.
Now I can't be bothered to do any weekly chaos mission because it's just spawn + more bs.
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>>551787523
Black friday brother here, they were not a day one thing in the game? you just fought endless chaos marines before?
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>>551787629
The worst thing about Chaos missions before were the Tzaangor discs. Chaos Waves only dumped onto you marines and Tzaangor discs.
Chaos Spawn came with the 10.0/anniversary update and released on a state that was even worse than they currently are, because the headshots for them didn't work properly.
So after an entire year of the game, they decided to make every Chaos Mission feel worse with spamming Chaos Spawn at you
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>>551783142
I may also have gotten good value from it but I won't be giving them any more of my cash until they start handling the game better
It would irk me something severe to contribute to their sales numbers when they rightfully should need to change their ways
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>>551787629
Chaos spawn got added in update 10.0.

Before then, enlightened tzangors got added, which are very annoying drone type enemies designed to be difficult to shoot and even harder to melee. Enlightened tzangor spamming fights are cancerous clusterfucks of constantly timing dodges and readjusting your aim/desperately hoping they'll let you melee them.

Before them, all we had were rubrics for majoris, who only suck because their teleporting makes you have to do twice as much gap closing if you're a meleefag. Plus they're ranged spammers, and will even spam at melee range, which sucks cause ranged attacks are unparryable, and you can't always interrupt them. Their actual melee attacks are a little subtle for how strong they are too.
Also the flamethrower variants have an aoe attack that's bullshit to dodge because it requires you to start dodging away from it the very instant it begins to telegraph.

Now we have chaos spawn, who can spawn in the dozens and have the moveset of a lictor.

Chaos has always been the shittier faction to fight in this game, but it used to be only by a couple notches.
Now not only are most of their majoris just pure cancer/wastes precious dev resources, but you now you can fight them in hard strats where they could have an extra majoris modifier and a defense/damage buff modifier AND a take-damage-per-dodge modifier on all at the same time.
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>>551787980
>the worst thing was the Tzaangor discs
Chaos was dogshit way before flying Tzaangors got added. You probably don’t remember, but Chaos was constantly being bitched about as an unfun faction since day 1. Rubric Marines were the only Majoris they had, and before they got nerfed they used to teleport away from you way more often than they do now. The flamethrower Rubric unblockables also used to be a lot harder to dodge and you were practically guaranteed to get hit by them. Terminator rocket spam used to be even worse than it is now before they nerfed it too. There has not been a moment of this game where the vast majority of players agreed that Chaos was an unfun, inferior dogshit faction to fight against, and anyone saying they used to be fun is ignorant at best and a revisionist at worst. Spawn are just the latest flavor of “Chaos fucking sucks I’m gonna go fight Nids instead”
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>>551790469
I'd honestly say that chaos spawn are even an improvement. They certainly have issues, but overall they're more fun than any other chaos majoris because they actually engage you. Every chaos majoris spawn that is replaced by spawn is one that is a more enjoyable experience than it would've been.
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>>551790469
Yeah back when it was still praying for a melee terminator spawn but the only majoris enemies for Chaos were Rubrics and firing back at a wall of inferno bolters wasn't fun.
Diskgors and Spawns will try and engage in melee at the very least.
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>>551671932
Every peice if HH lore I've read with him in it makes him seem like a massive seething retard. He's like a more pathetic version of Angron. Unironically Peter Turbo and the Iron Warriors should have been what "the black legion" is. Just wipe the Sons of Horus out and have a really siege master absolutely fuck up the imperium.
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Anyone have the omnissian axe animations that were datamined?
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In SM3 the main Chaos faction should be the Iron Warriors

No melee, just sieges and ranged warfare

No Chaos spawn, just Dark Mechanicum and traitor auxilia
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>>551796781
>no melee
DOA
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>>551790469
Oh christ I remember swearing off chaos after beating the initial operations on week 1 after playing assault and bulwark against them and having to constantly catch up to whack a mole a squad of rubric marines. Knowing I'd have to deal with their bullshit made me drop assault for a while since I couldn't find an answer to assholes that constantly teleport away. The spawn are jank but I'll take them any day of the week over the other chaos majoris. IDK who's spouting revisionist crap but from day 1 I'd rather roll the dice and MAYBE get slightly bullied by a neurothrope or zoanthrope duo as bulwark or assault rather than deal with chaos' bullshit
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>>551796781
iron warriors are really good at melee combat
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>be consolegod
>sit in loading screen waiting on thirdies that play on their PC toaster ovens
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>>551790469
The game's combat was simply not designed around fighting a ranged spongy faction. The guns in SM2 simply don't work like in other tps and rely on precise application of headshots to actually damage all enemies, which makes them feel weird. Like you shouldn't design a game around having to land 8-10 headshots on an enemy of equal size to you, in order to kill them, that always makes the shooting feel unfun.
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>>551792101
>Every chaos majoris spawn that is replaced by spawn is one that is a more enjoyable experience than it would've been.
Until it replaces all of them and you're swarmed by 12 meatballs all doing overlapping attack patterns in a way that melee warriors would never do
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>>551807207
I wouldn't mind the headshot requirements to kill things if random spread wasn't such a problem on all the bad guns and if chaos head hitboxes made any fucking sense.
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>playing with heroic plasma
>go down because of usual stunlock shenanigans
>get revived
>can no longer fire the gun in heavy stance but can while not stanced
>mfw
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>weekly reset
>wednesday
???
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>>551821142
Please understand, they use the cyrillic calendar
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>>551821142
half the games i play use tuesday
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Holy fuck can someone PLEASE tell me they're going to overhaul the customization and make most of the armor accessible on both pauldrons, knees and arms?
It's really frustrating to not be able to move this shoulderpad to the right side despite it being perfect for that.
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>>551807582
More fun than massed rubrics still
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>>551830469
Sorry, too much work. The dev team would have to remake the whole shoulder pad model, from scratch, nothing could be copied over. And even then, the text would be mirrored and that would be awful! You'll just have to make do, customer that spent extra money on DLC cosmetics (we hope you check out our next one too, which you'll have to buy even if you have bought the high price "give me all cosmetic DLCs" bundle)
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>>551832345
no the hell it is not
a dozen rubrics can be broken up into manageable groups with some cover to break LoS and the agitating patience to wait for them to slowly walk over because only now have they decided to stop teleporting. Chaos maps are shittily designed but even still there's usually some decent sight blockers for the majority of the map
When a hoagie of a dozen meatballs comes screaming up to you, completely unstoppable, and turns into a whirling mash of flailing limbs of obnoxiously large, overlapping hitboxes that becomes literally undodgeable someone just gets stunlocked.
Rubrics suck and I hate them but if there's ever more than 5 spawn out at a time and you don't have a powerfist or plasma gun to gib 2-3 of them at a time life goes from excruciating to outright ballbusting
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>>551830469
>gold on yellow
>red and white secondary colors for the full mustard-ketchup-mayonnaise look
>blue eyes for some fucking insane reason that exist nowhere else on the color scheme
Nu-Fists were such a fucking mistake
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We had weeklies datamined until the end of the year, we have no idea what sort of nonsense awaits us next week.
That being said, I already cleaned out the accolades shop. Did they say there will even be a December roundup preview for January?
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>>551835514
Whatever chucklefuck at GW decided that the Primaris Fists should have blue eye-lenses should be drug out into the street and shot like the dog that he is
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>>551835814
imagine no chaos...
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>>551840136
Chaos will be a lot cooler when GW stops fucking around and gives the four God-less domains (Encroaching Ruin, Malevolent Artifice, Ravenous Dissolution, Formless Distortion) actual Gods, units, and army lists so we don’t have to keep fucking around with the same 4 retard gods that we always have
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>>551841050
*Formless Distortion, not Dissolution
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>>551836505
You can have whatever color you want.
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BPX4Q
Reclamation hard daily if anybody's interested
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QUNRE
Hard weekly
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I have returned! Post codes!
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>>551841050
>Godless domain
>they should give them gods
Hmmmm. Well, I haven't heard of these.
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ZGV9S

Join game.
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>>551844218
halfway through reclamation
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>>551843920
There was a Campaign Supplement from about two years ago called “The Burning of Ohmn-May” that expanded Chaos from just 4 points to 8, renaming the domains of Chaos to “Ætheric Dominions.” It’s free online and a decent read but its implications are pretty big. Pic related is from it.
Encroaching Ruin is said to be “Chaos in its purest form” and is the desire for total destruction and death. Links to the ‘Dark King’ entity that was talked about in the End and the Death books where Horus and the Emperor fight during the Heresy.
Formless Distortion is up in the air at this point, but is just Chaos’ desire to constantly mutate and change.
Ravenous Dissolution is Chaos’ own self-hating nature and desire to destroy itself, and possibly already has a god: Malice (we can’t call him Malal anymore because of copyright disputes) and his own Chaos warband, the Sons of Malice
Malevolent Artifice is basically just the Dark Mechanicum, Chaos’ desire to mimic and create dark fucked up machine things, and it probably also has a God too, Vashtorr, who rules the Forge of Souls and is trying to bargain with Abaddon for some key which presumably will help him become the next Chaos God
Infernal Tempest is just Tzeentch, Rapturous Sensation is Slaanesh, Putrid Corruption is Nurgle, and Heedless Slaughter is obviously Khorne
Anyway if GW finally moves Chaos forward by giving each of these Godless domains their own Gods and army lists, we could have much cooler Chaos factions to fight in future vidya
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>>551845015
*The Burning of Ohmn-Mat, not Ohmn-May
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>>551844558
I tried to join but it says the code is expired. Post it again.
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this game is legit getting buggier by the day
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>>551845350
I can usually find and play one game just fine, then after that the matchmaker bugs out and I need to start going back to the main menu or restarting the game entirely.
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>>551851126
i'm getting moments where i can't shoot my gun after executing, getting more moments of LoD fucking up despite nothing changing, getting times where its not reading inputs when i know its not my keyboard fucking up
and having to do all that on top of dancing around 9 devourer and venom cannon warriors with finite ammo
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>>551845350
and it'll keep getting buggier
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>>551845015
>Sons of Malice never ever in any piece of media since GW REALLY doesn’t want you to talk about them
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>>551864065
They're actually stated as having taken part in the 13th Black Crusade, being spotted on Cadia. They're still there. GW likes them and probably wishes they could do more with the idea of Malice.
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>>551845015
In the books the Emperor becoming the Dark King was pretty spooky. The protagonists came across a band of word bearers and cultists running away screaming in horror and they witness what the Emperor was becoming, as he and his retinue of custodes were in the Word Bearer's wake. A gigantic black orb of nothingness hung in the air above him, the custodes were dead, animated only by the will of the Emperor himself granting them movement, like puppets. All around him everything was slowly unraveling at the seams, like reality was being tugged apart like the loose string of a sweater, and the Inevitable City slowly formed all around, making you nowhere but everywhere at once, where time stands still.
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>>551835814
>I already cleaned out the accolades shop
I'm a new player; does this shop change its inventory?
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>>551867009
As of yet, no, and I doubt it will.
It has only added more stuff so far.
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>>551867009
so far they have just been adding more stuff, including things that were previously available as spyware drops, no rolling inventory bullshit.
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Alright fellas, I've wanted to get good at Bulwark for a while. This is my first honest attempt it. Difficulty was set to Absolute. Solo with bots. I only used the fencing power sword and the Heroic Bolt Pistol. As you can see, zero downs throughout the mission, though I came close a number of times and had to use my banner for a heal 3 times.

Must've killed like 6 Lictors, 4 Biovores, a couple Ravenors, and waaaaaaaay too many fucking Zoeys. Had a close encounter with a Carnifex in the refinery and one also showed up due to me jinxing myself in the final area.

I will admit, I had to make a strategic advance twice at the air locks in the level because enemies just wouldn't. Stop. Spawning. Wave after nut crushing wave. In addition to barely disguised cowardice, I also had to abandon the fight with the last Carnifex at the end because I wasn't sure I could do it with a Zoanthrope blasting away overhead. If it wasn't for that, I'm sure I could've done it as I still had both bots and a relic.

What do you guys think, ranking the run from D to SSS?
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>>551866417
Yeah I hope they do more weirdo shit like this. Honestly just expanding the Chaos roster to include those 4 more Gods would liven up the franchise a ton, regardless of who becomes the vessel for the Dark King. But just fighting something other than the same shit we’ve been fighting for the past 15 odd years would be cool, and it would be a great excuse to get that charisma-black hole Abaddon out of the picture.
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>>551869531
All you need is Intimidating Aura + Armored Advance, my guy.
And a heavy bolt pistol against tyranids.
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>>551870182
But was this a good Bulwark run?
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>>551870182
Intimidating aura sounds good, but what about Forward Momentum? It's really easy to start an encounter with a shield rush and keep the damage boost topped off by weaving those in either offensively or defensively, say to avoid a sniper shot and close the gap on another foe.
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>>551867278
>>551867293
Good. What are spyware drops?
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>>551870306
I cannot honestly ascertain much from just a stat page, anon. I have played with you before so I know you're a good Vanguard but Bulwark is honestly even easier than Vanguard as long as you get used to the parry timer and some basic shield canceling.
>>551870467
>Forward Momentum v. Intimidating Aura
Forward Momentum isn't bad but Intimidating Aura just lets you bully things just by parrying and it's AOE. Hell, it's basically a slightly weaker Defensive Mastery on a shorter cooldown. Merciless Resolve is the weaker version of Forward Momentum but doesn't have as strong competition for a perk slot.
If you're running power sword then you can just power whirl things to death. That already deletes minoris so the only thing standing in the way is majoris and a power whirl + parry or two rakes will incapacitate most things short of a biovore.
Back before Intimidating Aura had no cooldown, a ravener's three-hit combo would literally fucking kill itself.
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>>551871915
Guess I'll go with Aura then.
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6W7HT
Hard weekly or Termination daily
Euro lobby but everyone's welcome
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>>551879167
>6W7HT
Time to put my Bulwark to the test.
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>>551879167
You aren't in my recents on Steam or the game, post another code.
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>>551880457
server's full :(
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All of you add me on Steam. I fucked myself out of a session and I wanna be able to join in in the future.

373052739
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>>551881115
Ugh. Literally the ONE operation I couldn't use Bulwark on. The game is showing 2 blocked console fags, but for some reason you don't show up. Oh well. I posted my steam friend link, so if you've got another op, I'm still awake.

>>551881131
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>>551881131
I'm currently not on Brother but I'll add you.
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>>551881131
but m-m-muh anonymity
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>>551881624
If any of you show up at my house, we're either having a fun time or you're getting turned into chunky salsa at the front door. I fear no man on this earth.
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>>551881131
[x] sets profile to Invisible
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>>551882006
Is it invisible?
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>>551882372
I think he confused an invite code with profile id.
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>>551870583
Twitch drops and PROS (their engagement platform) stuff
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>>551885725
Ah thanks. Fuck that.

And is it normal that on the minimal threat level (I'm playing alone in order to learn the maps and the armory data locations) 8 to 10 chaos-spawn spawn per wave?
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>>551889226
Yeah, this is Saber's idea of fun.
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When techmarine
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>>551891832
When the stable geniuses at Saber figure out how releasing a new class will work within a 1-class-limit-per-group game
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>>551891987
I'm just gonna run solo games while I figure out how to play him.
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>>551891987
>how releasing a new class will work within a 1-class-limit-per-group game
It won't. It will be a mess for matchmaking for a month or two
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EU lobby, leveling my vanguard and other classes and general grinding for fun i guess.

ZPV4B
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>>551900291
omw
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>>551900291
It's expired.
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>>551901312
>>551900961
try MDSXF
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FOR THE EMPEROR!
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>>551903621
I took a shower.
Fuck it. I'm just gonna post a code in a few minutes.
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>>551909378
Is it impossible to be mean in this game?
>terrible run
>want to call everyone a retard for dying every 5 minutes
>guy shouts FOR THE EMPEROR
>I do the same
Help me..
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>>551910291
Point at a dude and use the "refuse" emote.

Like when they fuck up the altars at the end of Obelisk
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>>551910291
You could always type in chat like a white man you know. Unless you're (may the Emperor forgive me for uttering these words) a console player.
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>>551910291
I usually just call whoever I'm playing with a dipshit and leave. People are quick to kick and refuse banter or to own up to their mistakes and it's fucking gay. On Left 4 Dead, we can be so toxic the only next step is team killing, still finish the game, and still say "gg's" at the end. SM2 has one of the most faggoty communities I've ever seen.
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>>551909929
>15 minutes later
Are you taking another shower?
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>>551910291
If you call out a player for sucking he'd initiate a votekick
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Why can't normal faggots into heraldry???
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>>551911467
Basically went through the rest of my morning routine.
IIVQD
US west
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>>551914315
It's a Blood Raven disguised as a Salamander disguised as an Ultrasmurf. The scope of this man's genius truly knows no bounds!
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>>551914315
>Iron Hand yelling at clouds
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>>551914315
don't lose your head over it anon
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Seems to be an issue with people joining.
Restarting everything.
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>>551915265
How is your shit worse than the guy from Luxembourg???
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>>551916571
I wonder if GW brought Ferrus back, would the head jokes ever stop? People don't make fun of Guilliman for Fulgrim giving him a throat pussy, but the Iron Hands literally can't exist without some faggot going
>HURRRRRRRRRR HEAD!!!!
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>>551916589
HAS to be Saber.
>inb4 "Sonygger alert"
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>>551916571
benissimo
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2XAS9
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>>551916892
Why did your dumbass buy a GayStation? It's got even fewer games than the PS4. At least that had Bloodborne.
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>green colors
absolutely disgusting
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>>551917104
It was a gift. And I'm poor.
My pc's weaker than my ps5.
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>>551917104
NTA but same. My compute died in my last month of college so I had to find a replacement quick and I needed something with good memory/storage.
There was no shot my emergency computer was going to run Elden Ring so I just bought a PS5 at a discount because my friend was scalping consoles between jobs.
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>>551917097
7UG4J
2/3
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>>551919159
>>551917097
What's this code?
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>>551920407
Sometimes the code will change, even though it's the same session.
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>>551921028
in case you are the host and don't know -- it changes everytime someone leaves.
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>>551921681
Good to know. Thanks, brother.
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>>551921028
I meant what lobby is this
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KFEP5
Reinforcements. Now.
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>>551922004
Oh.
We're doing strats.
KFEP5
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>>551923102
Isn't the reset a few hours from now or is this a last minute run?
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>>551923102
Ah, shame. I don't want to subject myself to strats. Still, good luck Brothers!
Lemme know when you switch to regular ops. I'll grab something to eat.
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7FN26

Running operations to level my sniper and weapons
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>>551923471
I'm going to bed. Keep an eye out for codes.
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>>551925491
Expired.
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>>551925947
No, just full in 3 mins
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>>551196963
oh I remember that. Myg0t I believe.
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>>551783893
It's a campaign that, aside from your teammates, only had like 4 characters, so I suppose they were all iconic.
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>>551927950
Based explainer
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>>551845015
Actually, those additional 4 are just the middle ground between the big 4. So "ravenous dissolution" has "ravenous" coming from Slaanesh and "dissolution" coming from Nurgle, etc.
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>>551928407
Wrong? Did you not read any of the Supplement or anything?
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>>551928407
They really wrote themselves into a corner with having 4 generic big bad philosophies for antagonists to follow. I like it more when Chaos is kind of undefined in its representation. The Chaos forces in Gaunt's Ghosts never feel one note despite following a general theme. I guess it helps that the Blood Pact, Sons of Sek, and the other general bad guys are portrayed as more realistic and less hyper specific kinds of crazy. Some are vain, some are blood thirsty, some make heavy use of magic, but that's not their sole defining trait. They also exhibit loyalty and perseverance that's almost like a mirror to the Ghosts and Gaunt. I think the book Fulgrim also did a great job of making me see how and why you'd go from being an upstanding knight to a guy who snorts warp cocaine made from babies while hammering nails in your dick. It started with a taste of inspiration, blood suddenly looks beautifully sanguine, and before you know it, you're using piss, shit, and cum to make a painting.

It may sound counterintuitive, but maybe if Chaos in broader 40k was less outlandish in it's portrayals of the Ruinous Powers, it wouldn't feel so cartoonish. Save the berserkers, fiends, walking bio hazards, and 5D chess retards for truly lost individuals. Chaos needs a sort of logical bridge. If all you ever see of them is the absolute worst, why the fuck would anyone ever join up? You don't turn into a fiend off your first Monster Zero Ultra.
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>>551928407
You can literally just read the supplement to see that’s not true, the new Dominions have their own descriptions and even their own rules separate from the Big 4
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>>551930670
isnt that the whole point of red corsairs, they went fuck taxes, i have to defend this shithole and pay for the privileged to do so
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>>551931640
Red Corsairs are just evil Ultrasmurfs

If Girlyman showed up personally and forgave them they'd turn into Loyalists again
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>>551928407
>>551931339
For additional evidence, you can see here that Samus (the demon that kicked Dorn’s ass and almost destroyed the Phalanx during the Siege of Terra) is a Daemon Prince of the [Encroaching Ruin] domain. He’s not Chaos Undivided and he doesn’t serve one the Big 4 or some combo of the two of them, he serves his own separate Ætheric Dominion and his his own rules because of it
Right now Encroaching Ruin doesn’t have a God, yet, but it probably will soon if GW pursues the Dark King plot line
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>>551931640
The point of the Corsairs is to show how the Imperium's biggest enemy is itself. It makes so many of its own problems, but it does illustrate the kind of "road to Hell" thing, with Luft Huron making, what individually seemed like good choices, but combined fucked the entire situation beyond recovery. I'm talking about why someone would choose Chaos and how they shouldn't be forced into 1 of 4 generic personality types. The logical reasoning behind why you would want to join Chaos and the path of seemingly sound decisions that lead to a boiling frog situation where you don't even realize you're crazy. The thing about insanity is that it's perfectly sane to the individual experiencing it, but nuts to everyone else. The path to it needs to be better represented. As it is now, it's always
>I'm a normal guy
>Oop, I tripped and now I'm le psycho cHaOs mAn!!!
>Not even you could save me Niggerman!!!
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Trying the hard daily stratagems
starting with termination

It cant be any harder than the weeklies right?
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>>551934990
just a caution
I live in the midwest NA and I notice people who join on me have REALLY bad pings



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