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Merry Christmas Edition

Previously in /coopg/: >>551000526

>Latest News/Updates:
Darktide:
Hotfix #84 - 1.10.3 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-84-1-10-3-patch-notes/116719

Vermintide 2:
Gifts of the Wolf Father
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109775233255098
Hotfix 6.9.2 patch notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330

>Acknowledged
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>551153040
Cool movie.
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>>551153329

Grim. Dark even.
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>551153495
Deserved. since War of the Roses they have the despicable habit of treating their playerbase like shit. Arrogant, lazy, incompetent it's a miracle they made it that far and it's only because of the warhammer IP
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Yuletide.
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it is now year 3 of darktide having no seasonal events
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Mario + rabbids tide
Made by Ubisoft
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>>551154454
Ok now this is epic bring this back please hell yes
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>>551143486
Damn. That’s a shame. I don’t suppose that sounds familiar to you does it? I’ve been looking for it since forever…
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>>551153740
nigger, that is the pool of people they have to draw from. they didn't have to be there at the time, the next week, they're 1 against a million other people and the planet's own conscripts to match the zombies they're getting
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what stimm juice and weapon do I carry for the heavy attack penance
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>>551153482
Game adaptation when?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeLFMliNTNk
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>>551155309
>that is the pool of people they have to draw from
No, those regiments are scattered around the galaxy fighting, going wherever the administratum sends them without any consideration given to where they came from.
Even if one of them just happened to be free from any other obligations right as shit was going down on atoma(and somehow heard about it happening) they still don't have the ability to go off on their own volition without being branded traitors themselves.
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>>551156535
mb, figured they'd be in the locale
also does that mean that whatever is happening at atoma is not a big enough deal to quit other fronts for it?
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is gun psyker more fun than staff psyker?
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>>551157113
The imperium is at war all over the galaxy, it's stretched thin, the bureaucracy is a mess, it's slowly losing the technological capabilities it has and the cicatrix maledictum is screwing warp travel and astropathic communications. What we know of the war on Atoma is that there is one loyalist regiment, the 53rd, there's Grendyl's warband that has had to resort to employing rejects, some of these missions even deal with scavenging weaponry and ammunition to supply the warband and the 53rd. There are no space marines being called in, the only reinforcements they've gotten have been from the Arbites, they're resorting to employing Atoma's loyalist criminal elements. Grendyl is making matters worse by keeping Mechanicus elements out of the picture, and possibly even refusing to call in space marines. The war is locked in a stalemate that Atoma likely won't be able to hold for long since Admonition has grown in strength enough to carry out heretical rituals. All in all, it's going very, very badly.
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>>551158354
no
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>>551158354
Depends on which staff, anything is more fun than flame staff.
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>>551158354
I get bored of any staff after a game or two, so if you're like me, yes. Either way, sword psyker blows the other two out of the water.
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>>551157113
So so. Keep in mind, the lore is made up, doesn't make sense with real life logic and barely does in universe. The hive city tertium has 90 billion people in it. It's gonna take more than a single regiment to make too much of a mess of it.
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>>551158828
>The hive city tertium has 90 billion people in it
Keep in mind, this is from administratum records, and they've forgotten entire sections of the hive city, tens of billions of people going overlooked wouldn't be out of the question, then there are the underhive mutants who wouldn't be recorded at all, then there's all the people out in the wastes who are probably traitors because they turned to Nurgle to survive the toxic conditions.
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>>551158354
There is no reason to use a gun when the electro staff and its mighty balls exist.
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Why don't any of the staves except for inferno have a unique m1?
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>>551159067
hitscan>>>>projectile
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>>551159198
If the electrostaff shot lightning bolts on m1, ask yourself, would you use anything else?
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>>551159215
skill > misusing a class
want guns? use someone else
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>>551158354
Yeah but obviously keep it out of havoc.
I usually roll with a bolt pistol or laspistol when I play melee psyker with scriers in auric
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>>551159886
Scriers is fine in havoc what are you crying about.
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>>551159709
psyker has access to guns thoughbeit. and i'm using a force sword and my F is a warp ability too. do i have to use all 3 as warp abilities?
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>>551160068
Yes, scriers is the highest melee dps in the game, I like having scriers in havoc.
However that part is referring to the gun part of anon asking about taking a gun on psyker.
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How do you make a build out of rock for ogryn?
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Saw a scummer cosplaying Slayer but the orange mohawk and beard on a normal body instead of a dwarf just made him look like a beard-oil IPA guy
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>>551160310
Like every other build; start chiselling away. However, I use marble.
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>>551160440
:)

Also side question. What's the odds we see a danktide 2 but a different band of characters? I'm not against the setting or the cast. Granted the characters do kinda lack personality of vermintide. It's mostly that the power level holds back what you can make classes outta. Like there already pushing it with veteran guardsmen and hive gangers being in the same squad honestly
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>>551160307
I don't feel like the highest melee dps in the game when I force myself to play psyker in auric with this build with a greatsword and a reconlas (or a laspistol, depending on how my wrist feels at the moment).
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>>551160310
take rock as blitz
throw rock (at mutants)
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How does the Power Falchion fare compared to the sword?
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>>551161415
How do you make rock even better?
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>>551161458
You don't. Rocks are purely there to instakill mutants (which is understandable, mutants are one of the most dangerous and disruptive enemies in the game. Hitting mutants anywhere with a rock will always instakill them no matter what. and maybe the occasional sniper with an inattentive team.
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>>551161438
Sword is much better
Falchion is ok for aurics. Taking it in havocs is a fucking slog though.
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>>551161754
What makes it worse?
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>>551161874
no damage :(
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>>551158520
>cicatrix maledictum is screwing warp travel and astropathic communications.
nah, thats only a problem on the other half, atoma is "close" to terra, and ever then this takes place after or during the indomitius crusade, which could either be 100 years or 12 years long after the rift opened, in either case warp travel is "fine" enough for that to happen, and even then the cicatrix maledictum only fucked things up for a "month"
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>>551161874
it doesn't have several years of veteran player bitchfitting to stop it being garbage
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should I care about keystones as vet?
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>>551163761
focus target is amazing. free damage for free
the others are meh
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>>551163761
yes, grab one always. you should always be next to one naturally anyway
>>551163839
is imo the best generally if you can be bothered to click 1 extra button sometimes too (I always take it). if you're lazy and not playing havoc then weapon specialist is okay.
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Any good resource for optimal melee combos for each weapon?
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>>551163761
Pissmark is great in almost any build, weapon specialist is good on a handful of weapons, marksmans focus is not great but it can be fun.
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>>551163920
Meatgrinder.
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>>551163761
Ya
CQC is 10/10 in auric
Both focus target and marksman are 10/10 in auric but overkill and arguably unnecessary in auric.
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>>551163920
Not that I know of. After 2000 hours I found out by accident that the devil claw mk1 has a heavy strikedown only accessible after light 3.
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>>551161874
Doesn't really do much unpowered
I think its a solid B tier weapon. Its more the game throwing millions of armour at you, rather then the weapon being shit.
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>>551153231
broke my favorite cane again trying to squash a rat in my apartment :(
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>rotten armour is back
What a "nice" christmas present fatshark has given us.
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Next class will be elf or weapons servitor
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if knife ear class is real it will be as annoying as kerillian
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>>551164742
I don't even mind rotten armor as much as I hate hexbound.
Not that its a bad modifier, at least it wouldn't be IF IT WASNT STILL BUGGED
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>>551165386
>>551165294
The scummer is the elf class.
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>>551165386
I know there's an eldar ship stalking the mourningstar, but honestly why would they join the warband? They're risking their very souls fighting chaos with what they would consider to be unreliable allies. It's a tough sell, unless they're corsairs and the risk is the point.
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regular and average lowest ranked tech priest jabronis are more expandable than skiitari, maybe
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i dont get the rat meme
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I FUCKING HATE GUNNERS. FUCK YOU FUCKING GUNNER CUNTS!
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>>551166259
Eeeh. Skittles are combat units so they're explicitly meant to fight and die for the glory of the machine god, but there are probably more tech janitors in the imperium than martian soldiers.
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>>551158354
melee psyker is the most fun psyker, and taking a las pistol is best for that, so yes.
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>>551167112
Bro..... just kill them???
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>>551167112
Just dodge. Not even a snide comment. Keep spamming dodge. Fraudshark broke the game in the players favor due to the "nimble" talent.
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What's the range on trappers? I've been getting netted from insanely far away like 20 meters. Could have sworn they were a CQC enemy but now when I watch them shoot at allies they start their attack from so far away, and the net goes even further.
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>>551168126
the nets travel quite far, what normally happens is
>a teammate of yours gets targeted by a trapper
>trapper traps
>mate dodges
>net travels further and claps your cheeks
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>get downed
>teammate pulls me up
>at that exact picosecond get trapped
>get downed again
>casualty
I hate trappers so goddamned much
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>>551157113
>also does that mean that whatever is happening at atoma is not a big enough deal to quit other fronts for it?
More or less, yeah.
The war on Atoma is a single drop in an ocean, it largely doesn't matter because this type of stuff is happening all over the galaxy constantly.
The Imperium would only start paying proper attention if the Cult of Admonition manages to cause a daemon incursion on a planet.
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>>551167491
i don't even play HIVesCum
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>>551165663
Scum is the slayer class.
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>>551171889
They're actively summoning beasts of nurgle, not exactly a great unclean one, but they're probably not far off from that.
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>>551172137
Them summoning 1 half assed daemonic beast every now and then does not classify as a daemonic incursion.
Also if you want the proper canon story, what the devs are intending as the proper story experience and the events of the game, you have play through the story campaign.
And if you have played through it, you would realize it is missing a lot of stuff, like daemonhosts are much rarer if not non-existant entirely. Same with monstrosities, they spawn much more rarely even if you choose the auric difficulty.
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>>551172515
But they do show up, the ritual campaign mission has one scripted right in. Consora's Folly has one show up in the bastion as well I believe. Like I said, it's not a great unclean one, but they're starting to get there. I think we'll see some expansion on that next year.
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>>551172732
>But they do show up
Read it again.
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>>551157113
>>551163249
Have tot remember that Warp travel is also fucked due to warp storms wracking the Moebian domain so outside help can’t really arrive anytime soon
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>>551166259
>>551167341
Not at all. Skitarii are expendable units that number in the hundreds of billions if not trillions. They’re probably the most numerous AdMech asset besides Servitors.
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>>551155104
wtf is this
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For the arbites shield do you take opportunist or confident strike as your second blessing?
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Just saw the leak about the 4th class's code name being cryptic.
Congrats on your Necron class bros. But seriously congrats on getting Admec. Happy for you.
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>>551173957
Arbites don't really have an issue with toughness generation, so opportunist.
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>>551174063
How do you know Cryptic refers to Admec?
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>>551174063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDok9M5Euk4
Tally ho, lads!
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>>551174178
Mechanicus likes to molest Necron tombs
and Necrons have... Crypteks
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>>551174426
Cyptic doesn't sound like Skitarii at least.
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>>551174470
Even when its admec Skitariifags still lost.
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>>551174063
>pic
>"Why do those Battle sisters have to be so cryptic sometimes!"
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Poggers Bridge?
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we all know that the new class will be the most obvious and most lazy option, as is tradition
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>>551175043
Schluesselschloss
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>>551158354
if you wanted to use a gun why not use a gun class. staff seems like the entire point of the pysker
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>>551175265
So admec then? At least its not Skitarii.
Also Adamant = Arbite wasn't that obvious.
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>>551175265
Menial Serf bros, we are finally getting our class!
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>>551174063
You're never getting sisters btw
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>want to play some Outlast Trials because there's a Christmas event on
>it just went free on Playstation Plus
>you can't turn off crossplay
>every group I get matched into has level 1 Pabl0_2013 who has no idea what he's doing while his abuela and chihuahua argue in the background over open mic
this does not Futter the Man
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>>551175418
There's nothing cryptic about serfs
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>>551175730
the second point applies here though
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>>551175685
Every game that has cross play will by design force you to listen to some flavor of shitskin blasting their awful music, loud colony of packed animal household, and music that is so awful there's a reason they all have below average IQ scores.
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>>551175571
We shall see.
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Reminder darktide has been following dark heresy careers mostly. The only exception being ogryn.
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>>551176149
>The only exception being ogryn.
Ogryns, sisters and grey knights
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>>551176236
I understand Grey Knights being excluded but why Sister? Sisters are similar or lower power level than Tech Priests, and Arbites.
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Does anyone really think they can tell what the next class will be based on its codename? Broker doesn't even match with Hive Scum. It'll be something out of left field and only barely related to the word.
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>>551176395
I guess arbites and we got arbites
I guesses ganger and we got scum
Now i'm guessing a mechanicus class and that's what we're getting
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>>551176707
Mind if I screenshot your post like with the pissdrinker who broke his word?
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>>551176769
Go ahead. I have nothing to fear
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>>551176856
Be seeing you, John Mechanicus.
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>>551176946
Likewise, Bruce
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>>551176395
Broker absolutely fits Hive Scum
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>>551173704
I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>551177278
Eh, hindsight's 20/20, there were anons who thought it'd be SoB because of the whole death dealing thing, there was even one guy who thought we'd get a Cold Trader. There's no way to say for sure what we'll get because cryptic could refer to a bunch of things.
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>>551177437
Most people were guessing Scum
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>>551177437
my first thought was Swagger dude and he looked like a hoodrat
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>"OBEY MY CAT!"
Reminder that Jo Plays games essentially revealed that the 6th class was Scum early with her interviews with Jeficus, and Mister E.
>Jeficus thumbnail Hive Scum
>Lore video with Mr.E talking about Hive Scum
Lore
The best bet to figure out the next class is looking through those videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrPoM_o7_Q
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>>551177974
I am obeying your fat or watching your videos black woman
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>>551158354
god just play veteran or hivescum if you want to fire guns, you stupid nigger
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>>551177974
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>>551175685
>>551175860
Dude I don’t know what fucked up servers you’re playing on but I have yet to encounter this even once and I’m pretty sure you can mute those people anyway
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>>551158354
>Makes post about Psyker
>Posts a Navigator
What did she mean by this?
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>>551158354
before the general talent rework I used revolver on Psyker, it was a convenient tool to quickly snipe something (brain burst took ages to get off)
in that sense it was more interesting to me, nowadays I prefer Trauma (sorry Voidblast) staff or flame staff, scrier's gaze is not my thing
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>>551178675
2/10 made me reply
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>>551178961
Navigators aren't Psykers anon.
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>>551179049
Uh oh...
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>>551177974
>only talks about 3 classes during this interview
>Lexmechanic (Said it was their #1 (wink) guess)
>Sister of Battle (Specifically took the time to talk about how she would be different from zealot)
>Hive Scum (Self Explanatory)
I don't think they would talk about them if they didn't know that Fatshark was going to include them.
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>>551172137
>>551172732
There is a world of difference between summoning a a lesser daemon like a BoN and a GUO so that’s not liable to happen unless something really drastic happens.
>>551165867
If you mean the whole getting their soul sucked up, that’s only a risk when they’re fighting Slaaneshi forces pretty sure.
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>>551179603
The other chaos gods have been known to take an interest in eldar souls. Slaanesh usually gets them by default when a spirit stone containing one breaks, but they can be sacrificed to the others.
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>>551175343
because veteran is boring as fuck.
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>>551179772
Ok well regardless it’s pretty much only a risk when their infinity circuits get fucked up or their soul stones are captured so it’s whatever to them at point. Stopping AP from becoming a daemon world and thus another foothold in the Materium for Chaos would very much be in their best interests, but who knows, they could want something else.
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heavy evis still filters me, i just don't like the sluggish feel of it when i'm a spam light attacks enjoyer as you can't dodge very far due to being in quicksand
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>>551158354
No. Less technical and less powerful outside of J34/3VEG.

Most fun staff is EK staff with q-cancelling, VB staff with q-cancelling, and then Inferno staff. VS staff is the least interesting imo, but is still fun if you can get the weak attack cancel tech down.
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>>551181982
The candy cane represents my penis.
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>>551181982
Same anon, I see people swear by it but I'd rather just use Chaxe or Chassault Chainsword since I feel helpless trying to clutch or carry with Cheviscerator
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>>551181982
It's fun with martyrdom
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When I look at comments for class speculation I remember just how retarded a lot of secondaries to 40k are.
People are really out here unironically speculating on if the class is a genestealer or a navigator.
Are these people retarded? The class is most like admec related and if it isn't there's no conceivable way it would ever be a genestealer or navigator.
I can even forgive the cold trader guesses, even though that's just scum with cooler toys, and less drugs.
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>>551184072
>Are these people retarded?
These people are taking the piss for funsies
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It feels like every new class has to have some kind of gimmick.
>With Arbite its a dog
>With Scum its drugs
Lets say hypothetically the next classes were
>Admec
>Sister of Battle
Admec would probably have a seperate tree mechanic for different augments (would it affect appearance?)
Sisters would probably have a separate tree for miracles, maybe allowing shooting holy fire once a condition is met.
I think if we want to guess what a new class it would have to be a concept that actually has a gimmick associated with them.
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>>551184513
>(would it affect appearance?)
Fatshark is too lazy for this
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>>551182053
That makes you gay anon
>>551184072
True
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>>551177437
Most people were quessing scum since "broker" is a common term when dealing with criminals.
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>>551179246
Lot of these "speculation" videos are just the fatshark partners soft leaking the next class.
Like everyone was speculating ganger and how it was the most likeliest.
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>>551181982
Using the eviscerator requires that you use Martyrdom as well.
Since it needs attackspeed and damage.
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>>551184513
Fatshark is lazy as hell so I could see them doing Sisters purely cus its easier than putting the effort into Admec
>Only have to record 3 voice lines cus female
>Just have to add a separate skill tree for miracles
>Just use standard female body with some Power Armor ports
With Admec they have to
>Create a completely custom base body
>Completely new face options
>Add an augment system
Fatshark can do it but it would take more work so I see Admec being a class that's added later on.
>>551186551
Yeah. As I said the fact that they were "speculating" that those 3 were the classes means its guaranteed that the next to classes are Admec, and SIsters.
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>>551153231
I don't celebrate shitmas.
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>>551186714
>means its guaranteed that the next to classes are Admec, and SIsters.
Or they just threw them there as filler. And admech and sisters make sense as filler since those are the most speculated and wanted classes and obviously youtubers want to pander to these people as well. And it does not at all guarantee that the devs are gonna add them let alone working on any of it.
Since you can't really make a speculation video when you only have 1 class in the video and just say "the likeliest is ganger".
Also they add other "potential" classes there as well so fatshark wont rip them a new one for blatantly breaking the NDA and kick them out of the partner program.

Remember, all NDAs amount to is that you cannot blatantly just up and say the information you have agreed to not disclose. You can however talk about it in vague manner with plausible deniability.
Aka youtubers like JoPlays or Mister E can't just make a video where they up and say
>"next class being released is ganger and comes with uzis, pistols and crowbar for weapons and talents you get desperado which makes you immune to ranged damage, also the class has a cool stimm gimmick as well."
But what they can do is make harmless "speculation" videos where they so just happen to "correctly" guess that the next class is ganger out of the 2 other classes they speculated about.
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>>551187569
Shalom
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>>551187569
ok sanjay
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Holy fuck dude, this assignment sucks.
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>>551188135
which region? I can help with either scum or zealot purification
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>>551187569
Fatty
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>>551188135
well at least it's not rotten armor
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>>551184513
>Admec
>seperate tree mechanic for different augments (would it affect appearance?)
I was thinking something like this as well, like a third arm for a tertiary unique weapon/tool that'd run on a limited charge. I'd have to imagine he might have something to do with temporarily deployable summons as well, like servo skulls or sentries, that can be used in this third slot

>SoB
I don't think this is going to happen because Zel already fills this archetype
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>>551155749
I ran strength stim/ rending split on the heavy sword for this. catachan sword also works. Anything with sweeps basically.
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>>551175685
>new season randomly blowing up despite the game being like a year and a half old
it's going to have an Outlastillion players by the end of the year. everyone needs to fomo NOW
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>>551190439
We will never get SoB because we are rejects. SoB are Giga Stacies and we don't even get Beckys.
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>>551188135
If it wasn't hourglass I'd take it
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>>551179246
They don't know
They are in the same discord as playtesters and playtesters can leak shit, but they can only leak shit that's already done. There was a high chance that scum was leaked because it was pretty much implemented at the same time as Arbites. I doubt playtesters had a look at admech adept yet.
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>>551176149
Adept asking nurglites if they got a loisense for that pox gas would be kink
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>>551175685
My first psycho-surgery run had two basketball Americans yelling on mic
I left that match
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>>551190594
>>551190439
Arbite.
lv30
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>>551190439
>I don't think this is going to happen because Zel already fills this archetype
You said this about Scum and yet it already fits both Vet and Zealot archetypes.
But Sisters being a more holy Vet archetype is too redundant for you?
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what's a good veteran gun that isn't the plasma gun
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>>551197764
Bolter
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>>551197764
Bolt Pistol
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>>551154823
Nah you got it right the first time. It does happen, but it’s with a mechanical pencil and not a pen
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>>551196404
>>551196549
I just don't see SoB happening. They may not be the most popular army or the most prestigious unit but they aren't exactly rejects. The lot our character selection comes from are prisoners who were one step away from execution.
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>>551197764
Bolter
>which Mark?
Both are great.
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>>551198235
NTA but I thought we all put the idea that characters have to be rejects into the grave after Arbite was added. Your characters stop being rejects once you hit level 30 anyway.
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>>551198373
Most people have never put much meaning into the reject label. Its just some autists are hyper focused on the label reject for some reason and think it actually determines gameplay or narrative.
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>>551198373
Don't the SoB also have their own corps that specifically deal with traitors and sedition?
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>>551198235
How many times does this need to be said? Arbitrators are not rejects.
>ohhh but they let wolfer escaaape
That is ONE background
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>>551198558
Yes they're called the Repentia. SoB's being added to Darktide wouldn't be as rejects but it doesn't matter because no one said a class has to be a reject.
Even when (not if WHEN) they add a Tech Priest class that class doesn't fit the reject label either.
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>>551198591
>>551198691
Seems kinda dumb of Fartshart to push the idea that your characters are, in fact, not the cream of the crop and the dregs of society only to abandon it because cool dredd+dog character.
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Heavy is growing on me
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>>551198235
>muh reject
Can we all finally stop giving a shit about this stupid word, and stop pretending it means anything to the game.
>>551198742
Fatshark never did that. People just assumed thats what they were.
Veterans are Veterans they aren't normal, with the Cadian being a Kasrkin. Psyker is not normal simply because its a Psyker. The Ogryns are weirdly smart too, and the Zealots can do some faith powers.
The classes were never truly rejects.
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>>551198921
You can tell HR you did your job and go to lunch, now
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>>551198742
>Seems kinda dumb of Fartshart to push the idea that your characters are, in fact, not the cream of the crop
How exactly were they pushing this idea? It never held up past the original four. Even the Hive Scum aren't actually rejects, they're mercenaries, those guys don't get bomb collars and prisoner garb like our lovable original crew.
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>>551199008
Seethe. The 7th class is Grey Knight purifier anyway.
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>>551199072
Izzat secured. We were never losers, just people in the wrong place at the wrong time who got yeeted off to a shit hole because, again, wrong place wrong time. Or something. Gib Ultramarines and Orks.
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>>551199168
I could go for a freeboota to be honest. I wanna see how they interact with ogryns. Christ, how would Morrow take it?
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>>551197764
For Havoc specifically?
Boltgun
Bolt pistol
Any of the lasguns are incredibly good if you're running a very ammo heavy lineup and want to give up priority to a BLO ogryn so you can focus even more on chaff cleanup
Helbore, if you can stand its jankiness, is one of the best guns you can play in havoc due to its infinite ammo and incredibly high damage/finesse.
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>>551196404
>Arbite.
>lv30
I don't know what you're implying with this

>>551196549
>You said this about Scum and yet it already fits both Vet and Zealot archetypes.
I haven't 'already' said anything, and by archetype I mean SoBs and DT Zealots are literally the same characters with the same themes, same personalities, same weapons and same powers.

I was going to say 'you might as well add a catachan or commisar' but honestly the overlap between them and Vet doesn't even fucking compare. Zealots are literally just SoBs but with a male option.
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>>551188135
medkit scum completely negates blight.
then all you have to worry about is rituals, which most people do a decent job at these days
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>>551199405
Except the Infantry Lasgun, that gun fucking sucks.
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>>551199467
Arbitrators are not losers. You escape reject status at level 30.
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>>551198742
The reject idea never should have been introduced in the first place but what’s done is done. All that matters is they aren’t beholden to it as the Arbies prove.
>>551198921
The Cadian isn’t a Kasrkin. He’s just a veteran. Ogryns smart or not will always be exceptional by virtue of their insane strength.
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>>551199514
>Arbitrators are not losers. You escape reject status at level 30.
Ok? Who fucking cares?
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>>551199593
The Cadian isn't even a real Cadian, you can make the character without the trademark eyes.
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>>551190594
>We will never get SoB because we are rejects
rejects are rejects
arbites isn't
Just because the first 4 classes were rejects doesn't mean all the upcoming classes have to be rejects too.
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>>551199669
I activated the izzat defense squad by calling the characters rejects. Just look at that maelstrom of shitposting.
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>>551199669
The people who use "reject" as an argument should care. It's pretty self-explanatory if you're following the conversation. But you don't have to care personally.
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>>551199593
>The Cadian isn’t a Kasrkin.
"GIVE EM THAT KASRKIN DOUBLETAP!"
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>>551199507
As long as you're prepared to click a lot (or have the full auto mod), the mkVII and mkIIb infantry lasguns are still competitive with the recon as they have more efficient headshot breakpoints and can still stack up infernus on monsters. Just wish the hit-reg on heads was better.
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>>551199721
Not all Cadians have those eyes.
>>551199467
>I mean SoBs and DT Zealots are literally the same characters with the same themes, same personalities, same weapons and same powers.
Hello Secondary friend. Are you enjoying learning about Warhammer 40k for the first time? I know you are but your knowledge seems to be a bit lacking.
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>>551200286
All the Cadians from Cadia have those eyes. Accept no substitutes.
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>>551199669
>O-Ok? Wh-who cares
>Stop refuting me with knowledge about the setting
>Sisters and Zealots are the exact same! Arbites are NORMAL! I don't care if you know more than me.
You need to go to bed.
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Rejectlabel propagandists get the rope.
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You will get Sister Hospitaller and like it
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I recall reading that astropaths are somewhat similar to psyker in a sense that both are on a clock when it comes to using their power
psyker gets mindraped and possessed
astropaths will sport a random mutation in addition to their "stable" mutation eventually
any particular reason why mutation specifically? were intended to be Tzeentch's toys?
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>>551200153
That’s just the name of a move they do. He has a voice line where he explicitly refers to them but makes no mention of being in them iirc
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>>551200451
None of my posts mentioned rejects or power levels at all and the last person to mention rejects before my post was 10 hours ago so I don't know what """conversation""' you retarded transexuals think I'm talking about, maybe go back to the University of New Delhi and do a English refresher course for your reading comprehension?
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This looks kinda shitty. I want a refund.
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>>551198591
>but le arby
They are just cops, there is nothing elite about them. They are just from the schola progenium just like commissars.
And guess what? Veterans get commissar cosmetics in this game.
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>>551200809
I will like it. But Sister Hospitalers are higher ranks. Why would Fatshark but a higher rank unit in Darktide over baseline rank and file Battle Sisters?
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>>551201293
>bodytype 2
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>>551201308
Enforcers are just cops. Arbites are to Enforcers what Commisars are to Sergeants.
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>>551201036
Are you sure you aren’t confusing them for Navigators? Those are the ones with funky third eyes and horns and stuff. Astropaths don’t usually have any mutations and look like regular people for the most part. Also there’s no ‘clock’, a Psyker can go their whole life without that happening to them as long as they’re careful.
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>>551201293
like the head is tiny and the body is huge. You look like a turtle or something.
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>>551201446
>Are you sure you aren’t confusing them for Navigators?
probably
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>>551201062
>That’s just the name of a move they do.
OK post proof then. If you can't prove that he's not a Kasrkin then you have to concede that he is one. The burden of proof is on you to prove he's not a Kasrkin.
>>551201308
You secondaries keep exposing yourselves. Arbites are eliete. They aren't just enforcers. They like Comissars, Sisters of Battle, and other elite forces in the Imperium, including inquisitorial acolytes/inquisitors were raised from childhood by the Schola Progenium to be the best.
Saying a Arbite is an enforcer is like saying an Inquisitor/Interrogator is just a enforcer.
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>launch game
>click play on launcher
>skip logos
>hold space to skip intro
>press space on title screen
>select character
>walk to missions
>start playing game
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>>551201446
Yeah, Navigators are the ones with the third eye. They're mutated pretty badly from both warp influence and the tens of thousands of years of inbreeding. It's not specifically tzeentch behind all mutations, that's just something the warp does on its own, even if tzeentch embodies that property of change.
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>>551201036
Hey retard you're confusing Astropaths with Navigators and Navigators are even more of an impossible class choice.
No Navigator noble house is going to send a bunch of their own to fight on the front lines ever.
Navigators are above the law, and rare.
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>>551201036
Astropaths get their eyes burned out from soul binding with the Emperor, which protects their soul (and most of their mind), but still risk the normal amount of physical mutation from regularly channelling warp powers.
You may be thinking of Navigators, who will mutate due to their massive inbreeding and directly exposing themselves to the warp over their life to guide vessels from their navigator spire.
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>>551201805
>not using the modloader to skip the intro
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>>551201716
>le secondary
Arbites are not elite no matter how much you repeat it. They are just cops that beat the governor and citizens for tax reasons.
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>>551201912
cool, but I never implied or asked for that class
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>>551201716
There’s nothing stating or showing he’s a Kasrkin beyond one quote that everyone on Cadia is familiar with because the Kasrkin are feared and respect everywhere. You’re the one making positive claim. You’ll have to prove he is one.
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>>551202090
They’re not. You’re just trolling at this point because you’ve been proven wrong about this before. They’re on the same level as Scions and Sororitas, the former of which is entirely characterized by being elite
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>>551201912
>and rare
They're pretty far from rare, every single warp capable ship has one, multiple even in case one gets mindblown in transit. It's just that they're so vital for the role that having them do anything else is stupidity. Not to mention the influence they wield, they are imperial nobility themselves.
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>>551202360
>ur just trolling
I accept your concession.
Arbites are not elite and never were. Them being sent into sewers to kill bunch of poxwalkers is evidence of that.
Darktide is about reject shit and always will be, even more so evidenced by Hive Scum being released.
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>>551202090
They're elite cops you fucking retarded faggot. They're trained from childhood to be the best they can be at investigation, and combat, and are given great gear.
They come from the schola progenium who's entire job is to raise and train elite human orphans that mostly come from noble bloodlines to be some of the best humanity has to offer.
>Commisars
>Tempestus Scions
>Adepta Sororitas
>Arbites
>Ministorum Priests
>Administratum people
>Planetary Governers
>Inquisitors
>Navy Officers
>Generals
They're all elite you stupid secondary.
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>>551202090
I genuinely want you to die immediately.
>But its just fiction
I don't care you're an annoying faggot.
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space marines are elite cops
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i don't know why you fags are arguing over which class is more elite than the others when we all know the next class is going to be Ratling.
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>>551202805
I pray not, sniping elites and specials as a midget is going to be miserable.
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>>551202805
I don't like them, they are just hobbits
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>>551202551
They’re being sent into the sewers because otherwise they’re just there with their thumbs up their ass retard. Why would you have a fully armed and trained fighting force and not use them when you’re already low on resources? You make no sense
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>>551202931
ratlings will get a special ability allowing weakshot hits on the groin

>>551202936
hobbits are based thoughbeit
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>>551203050
It's not aiming for the head that will be the problem, it's aiming past all the groaners and poxwalkers that tower over you.
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>>551201357
It's not so much a higher rank as it is a different order. The Hospitallers are a non-militant order alongside the militant ordos Battle Sisters, there would still be equivalent basic rank hosptiallers.
Hospitallers are recruited to be Inquisitorial acolytes, would be the ones already dealing with the infected, and can be called upon to fill in for combat medic roles or assist in investigating medical issues
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>>551202975
He's just baiting at this point. Arbites primary function is to enforce the Lex and ensure the Emperor's tithe is maintained. If putting down heretics in the sewer is what the Lex demands, then that's what they will do.
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>>551203357
>It's not so much a higher rank as it is a different orde
They're a higher ranked unit in the sisters of battle codex.
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>>551203390
Exactly. Hell, we’ve seen that even in the case of full on Tyranid invasions, they lend a hand wherever they can because even that technically constitutes something that would stop the tithe from being carried out, even though their gear and equipment is far better suited for taking on the exact situation we find ourselves in.
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>>551203357
Hospitallers are commanders. They are high ranked.
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>>551203903
Arbites calling Tyranids Lexbreakers is a pretty funny mental image
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>A lone Arbite fighting a Chaos Defiler
But Arbites aren't elite right? Fucking dumbass.
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There will never be another abhuman class, need to get over this bros
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>>551203557
Same Elite tier shared by the likes of the Veterans, Ogryns, and Zealot components (Preacher, Death Cult Assassin, Crusader). So it's about right
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>>551204176
>no felinid assassin
Man
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>>551201106
You must have a really bad day to have a melty for absolutely nothing. Try to get some sleep. And next time, read the thread.
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i fucking hate skaven "fans"
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>>551204365
why, did they gave your cousin leprosy?
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>>551202581
>>551202090
>>551204145
"elite" is one of those relative words like "expert"
It's hard to say exactly where the line is drawn between non elite and regular elite.
Unless we're talking about darktide enemies where elite is literally a an enemy type.
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>>551203147
that's why your hobbit senses highlight specials through the crowd and you can shoot straight through the bastards with your longe lase
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Elite Menial Serf soon bros
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>abhuman race of incestuous drunks
why would a swedish company not let them be playable when sweden imports them regularly?
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>>551204664
High ranged cleave but low damage to non-highlighted targets perhaps, yeah that won't be bugged out the gate.
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>>551204176
we will get ratlings and we will get longshanks naval armsmen

then we will get adeptus administratum adepts to crush our foes with paperwork
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>>551204830
>short race
>sniper
Why do you even want to play one it sounds like a miserable experience. Your line of sight would be constantly blocked by regular enemies.
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>want to do venting shriek for achievements
>shield gives too much utility to warrant swapping
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>>551190591
deadtide bros... we got too cocky...
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>>551205042
personally i'm going to spec into trailblazer/chef instead of sniper so i can pour hot soup on the enemies and slide between their legs to hit them in the balls with my rolling pin
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>>551205042
never stopped anyone beasting on Ranger Veteran or Outcast Engineer in Vermintide
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>>551203995
>Commandery Assets
>Sister Hospitaller
>Commanderies are smaller sanctuaries, often housed within moderately defender fortresses or shrine-bunker complexes
>Each commandery consists of up to two hunders Sisters, and the Canoness who leads them if referred to as a Canoness Commander
>This hiearchy is also applicable to the non-militant Orders, such as...Hospitaller.
>These Orders generally operate at the lower levels, mainly mission and commandery.
A Commandery is basically a nunnery. They aren't command unless its a Hospitaller led mission. Perhaps read the page you posted
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>>551205036
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>>551204575
you’re right that there’s different levels to it, but as far as fighting forces go, if you’re raised in the progenium, you’re better than average, which i would say is enough to qualify
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>go ranged scum
>support your team by making every shooter, gunner, specialist, and berserker on screen instantly disappear
>struggle with some targets
>your melee pick is pure cope
>go melee scum
>don't support your team at all, they all die
>but that's okay, because you can clutch and kill literally everything on screen within a few seconds
tough call
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>>551190591
Holy kino. This isn’t counting consoles either. Actually impressive that they can still rope back in so much of the peak player count. Now we just need a PvP mode the Prime Assets and the longevity is guaranteed.
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>>551190591
>look up gameplay
>giant naked black woman as a monster
>player character is some harlequin
what is this game even
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new class when
we can all agree that hive scum is trash and no one wanted it
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>>551207143
novelty wore off quicker than arby
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You can determine what class is next by GWs advertising cycle lmao
What's the next big army to be advertised? Character will be from them.
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>>551207298
votann?
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>Beasts of Nurgle casually fucking around the middle hive
This place is so fucked, it's not even funny.
The Underhive is probably a literal portal to the warp by now.
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>>551207824
It's probably fine
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Maybe YOUR vet is done reject retard but MINE is a loyal Guardsman of the Moebian 21st!
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>>551207824
>>551207986
yeah just ask the recently unc ogryn personality, some how he was given insight into the situation
>we're losing, some times faster sometimes slower too early to tell
jeez
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>>551207143
The Broker name was leaked like 5 months ago. So I'm guess new class in around 5 months.
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>>551206761
The premise is that you are all homeless/downtrodden people kidnapped and taken to a CIA blacksite during the cold war to get MKUltra'd. You basically get thrown into a controlled environment and are told to do horrible fucked up things while dodging even more fucked up previous lab rats

The story is actually genius because the point of the "therapy" is your character gradually becoming desensitised to the horrors of the trials and that literally happens as you get better at the game. It starts off pretty spooky but after you've played for a while you start sawing limbs off and burning naked people alive like it's routine
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why can't you edit your character looks/voice after creation
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>>551208979
you're going to feel so silly
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>>551208979
Hello new player.
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If Tertium got fucked up enough could the golden boys be part of Darktide 2?
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>>551206761
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X8yGu_g0c1E&pp=ygUVcGVydmVydCB0aGUgZnV0dGVybWFu
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if i hive scum is in the game i leave
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>>551210046
If hive scum is in the game I stay.
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>>551210046
If I've cum the game
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what's the best voice for each class/gender
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>>551207479
best model best pose. the rest is so so
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>>551207298
GW did not advertise hive scum at all.
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>>551210459
>Vet
Cadian Guy
>Zealot
Scottish Guy is chill though he isnt as rabid about his zealotry
>Psyker
Loner, seer is overrated and annoying. Black guy is underrated though
>Ogryn
SAH!
>Arby
Maul MUH LEX
>Hiv Cum
Theyvall suck but I guess anarchist

I dont play >woman so idk about them
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>>551211228
he said best haha
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>>551210459
if I could only choose one and be stuck hearing it from everyone else list:
Veteran
M- Professional
F- Cutthroat
Pskyer
M - Savant, I don't care for any of them but it's the most neutral.
F - Seer
Zealot
M - Fanatic
F - Fanatic
Ogryn - Brawler
Arbites
M - Maul
F - Fatalist
Scum
M - Anarchist
F - Anarchist
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>>551206761
>giant naked black woman as a monster
… What? All the giants are white and male… aren’t they?
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>Tired of Helldivers
>Tired of Poxxclick
>Tired of ratclick
It's over for me.
Just in time for christmas
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>>551210459
>Vet
F = Loose Cannon
M = Professional
>Psyker
F = Loner & Savant
M = Seer
>Zealot
F = Agitator
M = Agitator
>Ogryn = Bully
>Arbite
Dunno. Didn't get Arbite
>Scum
F = They're all great
M = They're all terrible
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>>551207824
Not really. BoNs are pretty low level daemons. You can start sounding alarm bells when swarms of Rot flies start showing up and stuff.
>>551208971
I thought it happened at a Murkoff facility?
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>>551212239
rope's ready?
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>>551212461
Yeah
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>>551207479
Every time I see a new one of these they just get cooler and cooler. What a neat race/faction.
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>>551212378
>swarms of Rot flies
Oh man I am not looking forward to quickplaying into missions with the wrong weapons
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>>551212182
No there's a black lady giant with big ol floppy tiddies
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>>551212497
mom will be sad
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>>551212607
Based I will now buy your game
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am I crazy or is the difference between the female and male seer voices is the dude actively forgets the horrible things he does/dreams and is generally happier while the female actively remembers and is paranoid as fuck
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>>551215426
Ya. The Male Seer is more whimsical, and plays at the dream state more. Makes the swing between lost grandpa to murderous maniac much bigger. Female Seer is more consistently deranged in general.
There is a line where they want to play whose the creepiest game. Male Seer just wants to play a game, Female Seer is winning that creepy contest.
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I'm a volleyfire chud now.
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>>551176149
>reposts this total garbage
Grim.
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the moment I see a laspistol vet in my game I know I am gonna get carried
I am that vet
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So Rotten Armour is back in Havoc and somehow even worse? What'd they do to it?
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>forever winter now desperately trying to appeal to gooners in obvious cash grabs
too little too late
scav girl isn't even a good character class
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>>551219501
jej
game is done for
way too much momentum lost
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He didn't age gracefully into 40k.
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>>551205070
Shield is good, but it's not THAT good. Shriek and Gaze are perfectly fine
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>>551219501
>teehee we are NOT like the other developers silly boys ~~
>crashes and burns
grim, was looking forward to it but after seeing the gameplay, it was over
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I'm a Havoc-Forged king with a sea of Auric Survivor shitters
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>>551173615
Skittles are meant to be thrown into direct fighting against heretics where a Magos micros legions of them, while individual Tech Adepts/Tech Priests are better for more clandestine missions at the behest of an Inquisitor or Rogue Trader. Skittles are also highly specialized according to the current mission while Tech Priests have more personal freedom with their augmentations (in terms of cosmetics or blitz/abilities).
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I hate how Bursters are just "drop everything you're doing because you can't ever trust your teammates to handle this enemy without sharing explosion damage with you"tier. It's so fucking tiresome
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what do you call this stance?
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>>551225587
Oh yeah?
i LOVE it!
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>>551225587
you can tell who they are targeting and just bail if you have those types of teammates though
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>>551226226
I've bailed a lot lately. Especially when there are needler scum on the team, since i don't play with cheats i don't know how close those bursters are to death. better not take a chance
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>>551225795
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>>551226747
that's where he keeps the screaming souls of his dead enemies
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is there some kind of matchmaking system? I play on high level characters, my teammates are fine, average level/skill. I play on fresh arby or cum and my teammates are retarded and often below level 30 in auric
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>use this + rat tail on both weapons
Eternal reminder to ratfags about their place.
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>>551227394
well there rare different difficulties....
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>>551229094
ok poopypants I mean some kind of skill based system
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>>551228846
>living rent free inside seethoid's head
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>>551229623
>this upset over a joke
Projection isn't healthy, anon.
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>>551229808
>it-t was a joke hehe
pathetic, grow a spine
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>>551221801
Pretty much. Doesn’t really change what I said.
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>>551229403
nope
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>>551225795
>I want to use chems!
>"mmm no... best you get is desperado..."
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>>551219501
>post apocalyptic game
>can make full on sluts in it
Based honestly. It's surprisingly rare. Also yes, this appeals to my "women in skimpy clothes + tactical gear fetish".
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>>551210459
>veteran
Male Loosecannon and Female Cutthroat
>zealot
Male and Female Fanatic. I do like both
>psyker
Male Loner and Female Savant
>ogryn
Bodyguard
>arbites
Male Fatalist and Female Maul (biased here since I use fem maul)
>hive scum
Haven't heard much of them but I think Male Outlaw sounds the best.
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>>551231762
I know it's a different game, but how skimpy can you make hiv cums in darktide?
>inb4 not very but they will release paypig cosmetics later for it
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>>551232160
Something like this.
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>>551231653
I look like this and do this
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>>551232112
Fantastic choices. I agree with every single one of them.
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>>551219501
they may be running out of food and water, but at least they have sharpies to draw some cool cherry blossoms on their arms before going out into the wasteland :3
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>>551236638
Could have had the tattoos before she was shipped to be a prostitute in a wasteland. From what I understand of Forever Winter lore is that there are still normal human civilizations and counties outside of the warzone you live in. They are just insanely far away but they are also extremely dystopian hell holes too.
The entire war in Forever Winter is basically numerous AI from rivaling countries are fighting a never ending war of atrition against one another and it has been going for so long at this point that no one remembers as to why they are fighting and why it even started. But the AIs keep chugging along and sometimes take fresh new soldier recruits or just civilian staff even from the civilian populations.
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how can i play psyker without worrying about quelling peril
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>>551238869
By playing gun psyker
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>>551238869
you play scriers gaze with enough cd reduction so you have a nearly 100% uptime, you dont care about peril anymore
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Any good, lesser-known friendslop games worth picking up from the sale? How's Cryo?
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>>551238869
playing a different game.
>>551239017
no
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>>551232445
london
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Anyone play deadzone rogue? Picked it up on sale and its pretty fun so far albeit sort of ez
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>>551247745
I tried it with a friend, but got we bored within an hour and refunded it.
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>>551177974
>>551179246
>>551186551
I actually have some insider info about this.
Basically this video came out well before they had any press access go out, so this was purely speculation on their part.
Mr E also put out a video shortly before the press release where he predicted that it would be a Hive Ganger class. This put him in an awkward spot because most people hated the idea, so after the press release went out, he made several videos trying to sell people on the idea to stymie some of the pushback it was getting before its inevitable reveal.
As a general rule of thumb, press release tends to go out roughly one month before the official reveal, so they can get all their footage and plan videos in advance. None of them have any info to go off of before that time. You can retroactively look at video release dates to get an idea of whether or not they have advanced info.
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>>551247981
Official releases don't prevent internal leaks.
It is very easy for playtesters and partnered youtubers to get access to information since they work with the devs, some of them definetly have direct contact with the devs too as well. Not every developer cares abour NDAs or even cares about keeping their playtesters in the dark.

People also figured out hive ganger instantly because of the code word and because people at this point are aware of how Fatshark operates and what kind of stuff they make.
Ie. they go through the path of least resistance and often are very lazy. Which is exactly what the hive scum turned out to be.
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>take a break from havoc to rethink arbitrator and retry all noteworthy talents, blitzes, abilities, keystones
>play auric maelstrom as it's decent but not too boring like regular snorics
>5 games go by, get ASS
>oh yeah, that's a thing and never gave it a thought
>remember that there's a similar penance for 10 in a row (but in any aurics)
>get it with 5 more games no stress
I've never liked the ASS title, but I find it even more amusing that 1. not only do people use this title in havoc lobbies like it means jack shit, but more so 2. how people still evidently often quit mid-match to preserve their progress of the penance (still a common phenomenon, much more apparent if you play other difficulties/modes like havoc where people leaving is very rare). Not trying to gloat at all, as I don't use the titles and never will. You'd think if people were this desperate for the title, that they'd clue on to the idea of using arbitrator which just makes the penances read as "play # games as arbitrator on auric(maelstrom)"
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>>551253539
>people too shit to get these titles by playing legitimately
>too dumb to realize they need to git gud before playing Aurics
>asking them to be intelligent enough to consider what class would best suit their grind
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>smoothest run I ever had on Silo CLuster
>game crashes
>can't even reconnect to the party
Nice, nice, nuke Sweden btw
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Why would I need True Grit when I rarely get hit?
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I take True Grit.
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>>551257272
>need
You don't have to. In most games, it won't be doing anything for you. But sooner or later it will save you from something, and none of the nodes preceding it are bad. The Cleave talent isn't the best, but it's not outright worthless either. It'd be very silly to not spend a couple points to pick up a talent that will eventually save you from an overhead or minimize poxburster damage. It's not on the same level as being a Zealot and not running UD+HR, but it's a similar deal.
>inb4 "I am le perfect player who never screws up"
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>making mistakes
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>planning for failure
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>>551258121
Hello Tranner
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yNOgWLJtdU
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when they made until death a mandatory node for zealot I had to delete him
entire class is now planning for failure, pour one out for the homie
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Are we winning lads? I hope we're winning.
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OH LOOK.... WE'RE WINNIIIIIING!
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So I wasn't going insane about darktide vs vermintide difficulty difference

>rats die in one hit
>maulers/mauraders/storm vermin die in a few hits
>you take absurd poke damage though
>grey health acts as a shield

compare this to auric where the ogryn takes like 5 swings with a club to kill a poxwalkerr, but also takes barely any damage in return. Somehow darktide feels way "grindier", like you and the enemy brute force grind against each other
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does this count towards the penance that requires you to kill 200 specialists with brain burst
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>>551258964
ye
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>>551258821
>like you and the enemy brute force grind against each other
It's very class dependent. The opposite side of things from Ogryn would be Hive Scum or Psyker, both squishy classes that kill things very quickly. Zealot and Arbites are middle ground options.
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does anyone here have a boss killing dueling sword zealot build for auric maelstrom?
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>>551253539
>crying about something that has been patched
>soft gloating about a title "you don't care about"
Holy shit you are insecure. Hahahahaahha
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>>551259446
I don't have a build like that, but if I wanted one, I'd probably start off with something like this and adjust from there. I'd probably run it with FOTF myself because I dislike stealth, but stealth will get you the huge boss hits. If you were gonna run it with the Bolt Pistol, swap Disdain for Anoint in Blood because unless something's changed, that at least gets you a breakpoint on Trapper bodies with Puncture, saving you some time on quick-swap shots mid-horde. Might actually be worth to just run Anoint regardless since I doubt the DS benefits much from Disdain.
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>>551259064
you LIED
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>>551259539
Where's the crying? And what can you change about that post where there isn't "soft gloating"? Expand on your nonsense, rage-baiter. Or are you fox and grapes?
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>>551262059
>n-n-no u
It's okay anon, I'm proud of your title that you totally don't care about. Which is why you took the time to immediately grab the screen in game and post it on an anonymous basket weaving forum.
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>>551262395
>still can't answer either question
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>green text
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>>551261428
(s)HE (be)LIE(ve)D
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>>551263013
You mean, SHE LIED
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>more deflecting
Wait is this the true shitter? You only just got the ASS title?
Jesus no wonder you couldn't shut up about it.
Lmfao
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>>551257272
if you only play damnation and below you wont
in higher havocs though its quite useful when a poxburster would otherwise oneshot you
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>>551218579
They looked at it, knowing that it's the modifier the playerbase hates the most, and realized that it should've been two times as worse
So now it also affects melee damage instead of only ranged
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>>551265451
>So now it also affects melee damage instead of only ranged
Wait, what? I remember Rot Armour just making Maulers, Crushers, and Scab Ragers spawn a ton more and leave behind toxic piss puddles. Was there more to it?
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>>551254518
found one of them >>551259539
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>>551265578
Yeah, pretty sure the affected enemies now have infested armor types, and have some sort of damage reduction
It's why as vet you have to take krak grenades, any other playstyle's effectively useless against rot armor
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I WANT THESE KARKERS DEAD
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>>551265578
You can tell how conceptually bankrupt a developer for ideas is by the volume of special effects and nonsense on the ground. And Fatshark love green bullshit everywhere (especially on the ground). Then there's flames, bombers, gas everywhere too.
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i love handmaiden so much
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Fuck you
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>>551266087
>>551266152
Fucking Hell. I enjoyed Rot Armour in Aurics when it was there and had stopped playing Havoc before it made its way over to that. Sounds like aids given the past buff to some elites HP and the already present number changes in Havoc. How many fucking Havoc modifiers have some element of or are just
>dude damage resist lmao
at this point. As if the builds weren't limited enough in Havoc. What a fucking meme gamemode.

I was looking forward to more fun stuff in Aurics after Atonement left, but that sounds gay, especially if its return is Havoc-only. Give me double high intensity Aurics already, Fatshark.
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>>551266506
>doesn't take FI
>takes...melee bleed
Are they at least new/low level?
>>551266573
I used to not mind to much but I'm pretty sick of rotten armour. It spread so much visual bullshit everywhere, it isn't just the DR%. I've come to realise that rotten armour tanks my fun. It's weird, since hitting H40 I'm a lot more relaxed in havocs, but on the flip side have no patience for rotten armour now (other modifiers mostly fine, rituals can be a bit weird and buggy but no big deal). The game is increasingly just a visual clusterfuck.
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JUST ANOTHER DAY IN THE BIG T
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The devs really do like their visual clutter bullshit, so much so that not only do you have it coming from enemies and game modifiers, you have them coming from yourself and your allies.
>oh boy I used the stim and have now suffered my vision debuff
>psykers doing anything
>etc. etc.
At least you can mod out the friendly effects without worry.
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STOP BEING WHOLESOME OGRYN
SHUT UP
I hate it when the ogryn is nice to me
it's so fucking reddit
I wish he was constantly threatening to rape me and eat me instead
but Swedes are too cucked for good writing like that
instead we get
>oh hurr durr Im just a big dumb guy and I love you
SHUT UP
FUCKING CRINGE REDDIT OGRYN
just shut up and eat me and rape me already
>OMG IT'S JUST LIKE MY MARVEL AVENGERS MOVIE!!!
fuck you
those movies are stupid and ogryn shouldn't be like the stupid nice hulk
instead she should be a bully and threaten to eat me and rape me
stupid redditor fucking shits and their stupid wholesoem chungus ogryn
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>>551267141
Yeah this except completely unironically (and for real)
>>551267057
Mods are just necessary to play at the high levels, and I wish it wasn't the case. If fatshark wasn't retarded then the party finder wouldn't be so worthless and actually be a usable functional feature.
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>>551267141
Bully is good for that.
>bully ogryn and arbitrator back and forth about the Ogryn eating him
Have only heard it once and I play bully Ogryn. Even bully Ogryn gets slack from an arbitrator, able to banter with the Ogryn and not get too defensive (firm but gentle).
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Meltdown hours? Izzat status?
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>>551267726
>Izzat status?
I hate black people and arabs so much it's unreal
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Contemplating returning to Havoc. I quit after the first rank reset 'cause I hated interacting with party finder. Melee Zealot worth a shit, or should I just play Arbites?
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I have won the Darktide. Sister Hestia may now praise me.
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>>551266252
Handjobben
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>>551267903
Just play arbiter. Zealot remains in the realm of book bitch.
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>>551269221
Shame. I love listening to female Fanatic but hate playing Relic
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>>551267726
>Izzat status?
Agitated.
Expect some farming very soon.
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>>551258821
It might just be the colors and the art style but hitting things in VT2 feels better. Even when you one shot things in Darktide it's still a blurry muddy mess and hard to tell.
Here's a giant rat, you wack him and his head or arm disappears, good job on to the next one
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>>551258821
It's not so much a comparison of difficulty as it is one of number bloat. Combat in ratclick is much more measured than it is in shopclick; most enemies die faster, but so do you, so there's more of an element of pacing and planning.
This is reflected in the fact that, in shopclick, blocking and shoving is almost always recommended against compared with dodging and maintaining constant attacks; because you're able to trade hits with more impunity than in the prior tide games, maintaining DPS becomes more important and caution takes a backseat.
I don't know if you can necessarily call one style superior to the other, but as a matter of taste I do prefer ratclick. I might have been biased from the start due to liking fantasy more than scifi though.
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>>551269221
>>551269302
I really like using book, has some of the best highlights still for me by pushing monsters off a ledge. But I just struggle to 'justify' using Zealot kinda, it feels like it falls off in H30+. Granted I am not a martyrsub (as basically every other Zealot is), and I build for and play flamer for the primary attack, whereas everyother Zealot focuses on the secondary attack. Oh and I use stun grenade, where most others use immolation. Perhaps I need to revisit Zealot and retry martyr and immolation. Any other zealots here that play high-havocs at all? I'm very happy with Ogryn, my most successful and fun for high-havocs.
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>>551266728
I'm H40 too and I've just come to despise rituals because they are so buggy. Half the time they make zero fucking sense.
Like take Power Matrix, there is the 2nd big drop down after the 1st medicae, where the room is divided into 2 parts.
For some fucking reason it alwayd spawns with 2 rituals, but worse yet, it always triggers the ritual which farthest away from you first, meaning if your team isn't ready or coordinated, you most likely can't stop both of the rituals at the same time.
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>>551267141
>reeeeeee
>why did they write ogryns to act like they do in the lore
Stop calling them reddit and just say you don't like them.
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>>551282078
It's nice to see that rituals are in no better state than they were months ago when I last played them. Quality
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>>551282078
Some maps are still just outright bugged.
Hab drekyo will always have a normal DH on top of the ritual so your only option is to nuke all of the cultists with a single attack (doombringer or ogryn frag)
Kill the cultists normally and then kill the normal demon host that is sitting her fat ass down on top
Or ignore it and kill the hexbound to avoid waking up the normal DH
Then you have some bullshit like the refinery delta hourglass map where the ritual spawns already max charge as soon as you use the elevator, and it's all the way across the entire map behind a chain link fence behind a drop.
There is also that one water cartel map that does this as well, no matter what it will always be max charging no matter the distance, and even more damning that one is behind a fucking wall out of line of sight across a bridge.
Makes me wonder why they brought it back if they can't even be fucked to fix the buggy bullshit.
>just be ready to kill it
That's besides the point, fatshark needs to fix it and I'm tired of these Swedish niggers refusing to do anything
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Just starting darktide again. Haven't played since release where I was a really good Veteran. Now I don't know wtf I'm doing and feel lost. Deleted my old Veteran and made an Arbites. Any tips for me because a lot of the systems seem to be different on top of just not playing the game for years now
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>>551283741
>Deleted my own Veteran
Why?
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>>551283812
>own
old*
fug...
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>>551283741
The fundamentals are the same you just have a talent tree now
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after seeing the way people build their characters using the inspect mod, I really do believe the 30 point talent tree was a mistake
there would be way less opportunity for them to fuck it up if it was just several columns of "pick 1 of 3"
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>>551284571
>dumb it down for dummies
Fuck you, I've had enough of broad appeal
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>>551284571
People are running in my 20+ havocs with unupgraded weapons, random stat spreads and the shittest perks/blessings. The retards that make up the general public will always find a way to fuck it up no matter how much you restrict them
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>>551284726
>singleplayer or PvP
agree
>PvE co-op
absolutely not
I mean fuck, it's practically an identical system to world of warcraft right now, you even have the opportunity to enchant your gear wrong
the only reason anyone is okay with these systems is because they think this is a game that those decisions are made by feeling rather than objective, mathematical superiority, but they're really just not
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>>551184513
It's gonna be a dwarf.
He's short and always dodged gunfire.
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>>551284940
World of warcraft switched to the whole "pick one of 3" and it made the game fucking suck because stupid people still picked wrong despite the simplification. You cannot work with them, some people are just stupid, or building around doing penances.
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Why few people use the female loner psyker. This is literally the sexiest character in the game.
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>>551285169
>Indian
>sexiest
Yuh huh sure
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>>551285169
begone poochaser
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>>551285169
I don't suffer from AGP
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>>551284940
that was 12 years ago dude
we also had pick 1 of 3 at the start, and in vt2, and people still fuck it up; having points allows you to build nonsense, nonsense is when you can do fun stuff, like double barrel having 3 shots
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>>551210459
>Vet
Male Loose Cannon is the best voice in the game
Male Cadia Vet is also in contention for it, either is peak
all female Veterans are shit
>Zealot
Male Agitator Zealot (fake High Gothic guy) is decent but none of them are particularly good
Female all are fine
>Psyker
Only passable male is Savant (black guy) and he is 100% carried by his really cool delivery on enemy pings.
Female Savant (French girl) is great.
>Ogryn
SAHgryn or Bully are good. Tim Bentinck's Ogryn voiceover is the biggest disappointment since 1.0 Darktide
>Arbiter
all of them are fucking shit. Male Maul is the best out of the six but his delivery can't save boring fucking Arbites writing
>Hive Scum
Male: Agitator and Bounty Hunter are both great
Female: Bounty Hunter is passable but none of the female ones are very good

I think the worst overall voice in the entire game is both male/female Outlaw Hive Scum. They are so boring, so lifeless, so uninteresting, and so generic that it actively made me unhappy to play while I was trying them, and they continue to make me unhappy when I see someone in my games dumb enough to use them. I hate Outlaw Hive Scum so much,
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>>551258821
The biggest change between Darktide and V2 is how jank Darktide's enemy 'management' is. When you play V2, even a solo player with skill can make a horde look very managed and neat. Meanwhile, in DT enemies slip and slide everywhere and refuse to consistently react to your actions. Just fighting Poxwalkers on an Ogryn you can take damage because one of them randomly decided to stagger or slip'n'slide to your ass and poke you there.
Darktide also has a very, very ugly case of power creep arms war after the talent trees were made and equipment progression was redone, so you have shit like Aurics being as spastic and schizophrenic as V2 Twitch mode to keep up with player power.
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>>551267141
This but unironically.
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>>551285007
Were are NOT getting Votaan.
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>>551285169
I use her and she is in fact the sexiest.
>>551285263
>>551285292
Princess Jasmin is still a disney sex symbol.
You don't have to like india but there are unironically hot indian women.
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>>551285263
>>551285292
Sorry autistbro, I'm not that poltarded to judge a character by the nationality of an actress.
post hand btw
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>>551286892
Trvke
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>>551210459
>Vet
Male any except for Cutthroat
>Zealot
Female any
>Ogryn
Who cares they're all the same
>Psyker
None of them (male Loner by default)
>Arbites
Male any
>Hive Scum
Anarchist, which one depends on your degree of AGP
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>>551287015
Unironically hotter than 99% of white women but lets not start pretending that this is the what the standard indian woman looks like.
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>>551283812
Wanted to start fresh
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>>551287015
If indian women started exclusively breeding with white, asian, and hispanic men this is what the baseline indian woman would look like.
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>>551286892
>jeets are we wuz posting now
Amazing
Here's Princess Jasmine btw
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>>551286892
>Princess Jasmin is still a disney sex symbol.
Aladdin isn't set in india
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>>551287351
Its vaguely indian/middle eastern.
Also for a more specific example I guess you can use the jungle book.
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The original reject banter wasnt that great to begin with. But these new ones are even worse
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French Savant owes me sex
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>>551287341
What does this have to do with my point. The indian the picture anon posted is absolutely 20 times hotter than this woman.
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New enemies, nyo??
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>>551287490
Shut up female agitator.
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>>551287416
>the princess of ARABIA is an indian sex symbol
>okay well not her, the child from the jungle book is an indian sex symbol
you actually are indian, aren't you
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>>551287419
Everyone feels too friendly
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>>551287624
>the CHILD
>is a sex symbol
OH NO NO NO, jeetsissies, our response??
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>>551287624
Fortunately no. But I just think pretending that there aren't indian women who are hot as hell is retarded. even if I hate some aspects of indian culture.
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I don't get the saw cleaver. Why does it have so little cleave? Why is wrath nerfed on it? This is frustrating.
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>>551287678
>>551287624
>when he was a kid watching VHS disney movies he wasn't turned on by seeing her
ngmi
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>>551267557
Bully is my favorite Ogyrn voice, and I think one of the only Ogryns that hasn't gotten a Bone 'Ead implant.
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>>551287861
Bodyguard doesn't have a bone'ead yet he's weirdly smart. I hate Bodyguard ogryn.
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Why did you post this on /pol/ and on here at the same time? Where else have you posted this today?
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>>551287505
>What does this have to do with my point
Nigger you said Princess Jasmine is an Indian sex symbol - as a white woman playing an Egyptian (a people separated by 8 countries, a desert and an entire fucking subcontinent away from Indians)

I call it 'we wuz' posting but honestly at least Nubians were actually in Ancient Egypt, this is just sad. Don't talk to me.
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>>551288098
I posted it on pol cus I knew I would get funny reactions
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>>551287861
He does have a bone head implant but it's implied that it's malfunctioning (buzzing and ringing in his head)
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>>551288226
Based
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>>551288123
First time I hear someone guess "Egypt" when seeing the Taj Mahal in fantasy Baghdad.
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Do people not usually do Mortis Trials?
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>>551289542
No, it's pretty boring.
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>>551289685
Man that's unfortunate, I had fun stacking wacky modifiers to see how many particle effects the game could withstand until crashing
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>>551289542
Have not touched that piece of shit game mode since it launched.
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>>551289542
abruptly ends once it starts getting fun. People were hyped for a chaos waste but it would require w*rk
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>>551289542
They should never have wasted resources on Mortis they should have used that time and money on creating new maps, weapons. and classes.
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Frohe Weihnachten, /copesneed/! Merry Christmas, I wish you successful havocs and a cozy time with your family!
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Honestly the main problem with Mortis Trials is just that, it's a boring ass training exercise that takes place in your imagination.

If you had to speak to Dukane and she was like "The heretics are pushing our lines, go help" and it was a generic trench or Underhive defense line, it'd be better on vibes alone.
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>>551292281
who the fuck cares about the "vibes"
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*sticks vibe-egg up your ass*
vibes?
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Does this node also reduce peril generated by Scrier's Gaze?
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my favorite Darktide level? the uhh... one with the brown and Grey hallway.

i resent that i'm playing this game again because they suckered me by adding my one, non-Aeldari weakness – a gunslinger class.
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>>551212378
>I thought it happened at a Murkoff facility?
it does but it's a prequel to the singleplayer games when Murkoff were still associated with the government
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>>551293209
nice blog twink
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>>551293209
>muh coluhs
Go play ultrakill, faggot
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>>551293209
I think all the assassination missions are the best. Nicely paced with good environments.
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is the weight of the lex talent still bugged? Been a while since I played
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Every fucking vet player refuses to take the nade perk.
YOU HAVE ONE FUCKING JOB FAGGOT MAKE SURE YOU DO IT!
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>>551286254
>Only passable male is Savant (black guy
Impressively wrong.
>>551286816
Tell that to GW buddy. Get ready.
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>>551295205
It's called the veteran sharpshooter, not veteran grenadier.
I'm not taking the grenade perks.
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>>551293354
Right but I’m pretty sure their connection with the CIA was always just funding wasn’t it
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>>551295627
Declined
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>>551288098
>>551288226
What are the chances you were both on there at the same time as this was happening
>>551287702
>some
Uh huh…
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>>551269996
>>551267726
looks like this very much was the case kek
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>>551295948
Your loss, hardstuckie.
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>>551295205
Their one job is to shoot the fucking niggers with guns. If they do that alone then they are better than 99.95% of the entire playerbase of vets and what they do beyond that, i do not fucking care.
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>>551296569
Declined.
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Are the VT2 uncs awake?
Just hit max level on my first hero and started getting 300s rerolling properties is ass I'm guessing people only do this for reds.

Merry Christmas eve btw log in to get your 3 red dust
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>>551296569
if you actually, 100%, genuinely believe this, then you should just be inviting desperado scummers now
the fact that copeg thinks veteran's "job" is to only shoot specials and gunners is honestly hilarious
it's a class that does literally fucking everything and yet you lot seem to think it's a backline supporter
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I don't even accept vets, they're the weakest class in havoc by eons.
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>>551285169
She’s absolutely not the sexiest but I do like her too.
>>551287416
There’s nothing vague about it the story is literally based off of a folktale form Arabian nights lol
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>>551291672
Joyeux Noël le boche :)

Merry Christmas! Drink responsibly and don’t fight with your family! No politics at the table.
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>>551296883
Its usually comp dependant but if you're with the usual POZV, then yes it will usually fall on the vet to deal with ranged threat spam. It can deviate with the other classes or ultra aggro setups
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Tomorrow fartshark will surely give us the christmas gift of every cosmetic being available!
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>>551298090
Funny joke. You're a cutie.
>*smooch*
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>>551298146
I knew I was lying to myself as I posted it, while I was typing I remembered they were on vacation and wouldnt be able to oversee such a new feature so it will never happen ever

feels bad my main man
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>>551292948
Yes.
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>>551293870
Magistrati oubliette can duck my sick.
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>>551298431
>hating the most fun map in the whole game
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>>551288281
Well. That and he says he smells burning meat when he thinks too hard
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>>551298551
What a weird image
>>551296569
I look like that
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>>551298891
Whats weird about it?
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>>551291672
>>551297786
Gleðileg Jól
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>>551298960
What is she doing with her hands? What’s up with her lips? Why is she smiling at me like that?
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>>551299887
>Whats up with her hand
She's praying
>Whats up with her lips
She has full feminine lips you faggot
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another day, another couple of people who are clearly duo'd and only ever work with eachother. and despite dragging the rest of us down they start talking shit in chat because they can back eachother up. there's only so many block slots what the fuck.
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>>551298891
>What a weird image
I think you might be the weird one anon.
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>>551300153
>>551300382
Not an argument/makes no sense. It’s weird.
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weapons that are completely forgotten, never to be used again
>all marksman autoguns
>power falchion
>shredder autopistol
>dclaws
>ogryn and vet shovels with the clunky alt attack
>heavy sword
>normal chainsword
>infantry lasguns
>braced autoguns
>combat shotties
all deserve a proper rework/rebalance
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>>551302482
unlikely, new premium class is in the files already. Goycattle defend this by yelling "poor! poor!" like the issue isnt that existing things are neglected in lieu.
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I still dont have any golden titles
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>>551302482
shredder autopistol has been given new life for the scum class
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>>551303948
I thought this said golden titties for a second
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>>551302482
It's honestly easier to list the specific marks that are good.
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>>551304561
Golden titties would be pretty nice too.
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>H40 with two level 1000
>they just run past every shit
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>>551302482
Balancing every weapon to be equally good is a stupid thing to do. Some weapons are just meant for lower difficulties, you can't take everything to Havoc and have it perform well.
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>>551305279
retard
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>>551305851
Nothing to say? Good.
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Discovered Skitarius earlier and looping Heavy-block on the ogryn shield this is slick. Anything else fun you can pull off with this?
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ya stink harder than ya strike
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>>551302482
we heard you loud and clear
Havoc mod will be retiring and moving to mission board as a next difficulty after Auric
stay tuned for the new and exciting Malevolence mode with different modifiers each hour and weekly scoreboard providing a challenge even to most tight knit Discord Groups :)
we also adjusted Ogryn talents to fit with the current balancing efforts, we felt he was overpower forming in lower difficulties
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>>551304837
>playing the real game as little as possible is the true endgoal
wise havocsissies
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>>551306483
Ogryn somehow catching yet another nerf would be so fucking funny. This class cannot get any more unfortunate. I struggle to think how it could get any worse
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>>551306632
they will reintroduce his unnerfed state as the next class DLC don't worry
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Literally just give crushers flak armor heads and every weapon will be fun again
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Just lower the difficulty
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>>551307080
>go back down to damnation
>casuals still leveling
>harder then aurics
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>>551307189
Lower the difficulty :)
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>>551307189
trvke I just want to speedrun for diamantine since the payout is the same as auric but I get matched with levels 20s with bad gear
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>>551306632
>I struggle to think how it could get any worse
They nerf his base toughness to be only 50 like it was in Patch 13. And then make all enemies attack 10-20% faster, both melee and ranged.
The latter one would fuck up ogryn badly because even now after the rework, ogryn is still just heavy attacks. It is the only thing worth doing any of the melee builds. Since it's the only way he regens any decent amount of toughness and it is the only way he can do any sort of damage or crowd control.
Making enemies attack faster means that you would have harder time playing as an ogryn because the heavy attacks you do might not be fast enough to stagger the enemies which would prevent them from attacking you.
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>>551306742
>crushers control the meta
KNEEL
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>>551307684
I'm not kneeling to bad game game design.
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i dont get psyker bros, i keep dying to gunners or ragers every time i diecide to come back to this cursed class
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>>551308406
ok quick psyker guide
>take dueling sword
>take flamestaff
>take bubble
>just flamestaff all the time
>win
or the chest hair psyker build
>take greatsword
>take electro staff
>skill into the staff attack talents
>take all cd reduction talents
>take scriers gaze
>always prog scriers gaze
>always be spamming m1
>never go out of scriers gaze
>turn peril animations/sounds to maximum
>watch 3 streams in the background with people also playing psyker in dartkide
>listen to death grips
>also be in discord and talk to your friends
>take fent and coke
>do NOT sleep 48 hours before starting to play psyker
>take some shrooms
>inhale some ayayuska
>only play havoc 40
ez
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>>551308406
Low health and blowthrough damage. Psykers don't have a lot of ways to cap out their toughness quickly like other classes, many of the nodes that provide toughness do it over time, so if you're bad at avoiding damage, you're getting lots of blowthrough to your health, which as you know you don't have a lot of to begin with. You'll always be bad at psyker if you don't know how to block or avoid damage. Some psyker players compensate by shitting out a ton of damage, or using bubble, most of the time they're compensated for by a player who knows the psyker's weakness and spends the match babysitting them removing the worst threats and mooching off of smite or flamestaff attacks like a remora.
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>>551304040
Ultra mogged by dual autos.
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>>551309610
>the "I need like 6 mods just to make this work, not rape my ears, and not embarrass myself by blowing up over and over" build
weird, I had assumed they must've changed or nerfed it by now because people only ever talk about inferno staff
is there a mod to make the primary bolts not also destroy my brain with their sound
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trying to get into havoc, good enough build?
powersword makes me feel really slow and clunky
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>>551313828
>Field Improv instead of melee bleed
I shiggy diggy
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>>551309610
what's the greatsword for in this context
making your penis feel big?
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>>551316019
swinging at enemies you fucking retard
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>>551314497
bleed on powersword???
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>>551316620
why would you do that when you're spamming m1 on ek staff
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>>551314497
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>>551313828
You'd better hope you've got good timing, you're gonna need it to activate that powersword in the middle of a horde.
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>>551317068
It's a meme
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>>551317308
Because m1 on staff won't deal with hordes, it's a single target attack. You need a sweep attack or you're just signalling that you want a babysitter.
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>>551317331
honestly idk whether i got a good tempo with the powersword or smthn but ive gotten used to it, i only have it because the push thrust while empowered feels so good
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I do melee bleed AND field improv
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>>551313828
marksman and cqk are pretty fucking worthless, take skirmisher and grenadier instead
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>>551317492
Takes practice, blockpush, backdodge, activate, just make sure you've got somewhere to backdodge to. Making sure not to interrupt activation is key as well.
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>>551317531
This is bait, but if you're taking the combat knife for a bleed build, it's fine for keeping the stacks refreshed
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>>551317536
i can understand why you'd say that i guess, uptime and all that, will try them and see whats up
>>551317953
basically yea, the dance you do also really helps getting used to not spam dodge because otherwise you have no dodges when a trapper or crusher shows up, its fun in its own way
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>>551305970
It allows you to use a power sword without suicidal ideation.
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>>551318723
A metronome helps, though Darktide's music is already set to a consistent tempo, it has some discordant elements in it which fucks with your resting brainwaves, that's why I turn the music off and just have the metronome going, but it's not crucial to getting good.
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>>551153231
Hello ratto
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>>551310021
>Psykers don't have a lot of ways to cap out their toughness quickly like other classes
7.5% per warp kill
4% per 10% peril (20% per shriek or scriers activation)
15% (5/s) per melee weakspot kill
2.5% per melee attack
10% (2.5/s) per crit
15% (3/s) per flame kill
>abilities
10/s when inside a bubble
2.5/s as long as scriers is active (+quietude)
>keystones
30% (6/s) per elite/special, every 10 flame kill or every 25 teamwide kill
20% per blitz
25% (10/s) per marked kill

Did I forget any?
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>Shovel/Lasgun build in H40
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>>551313828
Yeah it's fine.
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>>551319351
What the fuck.
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>>551321064
Would be better off with a laspistol but sure. The shovel has excellent blessings.
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>Report from Damage to chat mod
Do parsefags really
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>>551321064
For me it's skullcrusher/untranny strike
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>>551288281
Brawler has those lines, unless I haven't heard Bully's as well.
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>>551287861
Brawler is the only one who has the implant but it is malfunctioning and making him more retarded than intended.
Bully doesn't care to get one and thinks he is smart enough as is.
Bodyguard is interested in getting one since he wants to be smarter. (he probably only wants it so he can collect and memorize more long words and know the meaning for them)
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>>551321064
Declined.
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>>551321792
What are dope blessings for the shovel?
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>>551324027
uncanny strike + skullcrusher, mixes really well with bleed on hit talent since the skullcrusher + rending fucks any enemy
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>>551319351
Explain further???
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>>551326092
What more needs explaining? You respond to audio, some kinds of sounds are complimentary to focus because your brain waves harmonise with them, and this allows you to enter a trance state more easily, similar to the hyperfocus you experience during so-called road hypnosis, even your heartbeat and breathing will attempt to synchronise with rhythms you hear. People use metronomes to help train and maintain a tempo in both music and dance, which is applicable here because Darktide is effectively a rhythm game.



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