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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8923 - Dead Pink Rat Edition

==NEWS==
>NiGHTS, Ai Ai, Tangle and Whisper in Sonic: Racing CrossWorlds
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1988374034820780521

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

>An event movie in the ‘SONIC’ universe will release on December 22, 2028
https://x.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 24 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
http://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
http://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Official btw
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>>551281558
>Surgetranny projecting
She'll be dead when her shit comic dies like all the guys Sally fucked
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Don't want Silver
Don't want Dark Gaia
Don't want Rouge the Bat
Don't want Blaze the Cat
Don't want Shadow
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>>551281759
>friendzone
lol
>>551281767
you fags take the bait so damn easily, holy fuck are amyfags easy
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want marine
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>>551278169
I apologize, I didn't realize until I started that I've never drawn a bird mobian before.
So he ended up looking more like a Mario character.
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>>551281907
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>>551281873
I want all of those things
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>>551281939
that's okay, it still came out great! Thank you drawfriend.
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>I’LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS
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>>551281904
Arguing is more entertaining than the shit games and comics are
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>>551281907
I'll spam some of my Marines for you, cause I'm a self indulgent faggot.
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>>551281904
Must suck being alone on Christmas.
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>>551282089
keep projecting, it's really cute how shitmy fans are so easy to rile up
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>>551281907
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>>551282084
Marine is always good
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>>551281759
kek why is this not in the bestie collage?
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Merry Christmas, /sthg/
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Zzz...
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>>551281907
Drew this one when I had to work on my day off on new years last year.
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>>551281907
Sticks is better than Marine
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>>551282446
but he wants Marine
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>>551282446
Wow, that's boring.
How about instead of obvious baiting for arguments you talk about something you enjoy?
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want sticks
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>>551282446
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>>551282285
Maybe it's time to update the collage
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>>551282415
Lol
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Marine is currently married to Chris and living on the forgotten island.
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>>551282285
>>551282602
here's the collage if anyone can find a way to fit it in
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>>551281907
>>551282675
Huh... couldn't say I saw that coming...
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>>551282675
Fiona is married to me and I am living in her apartment.
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So when is Frontiers supposed to have happened in IDW?
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>>551281558
>>551281759
>>551282602
Put Amy with a real chadhog
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>>551281907
Marinenut
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>>551282774
I bet it stinks.
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>>551282839
putting amy between rouge and shadow is like putting a wet pile of shit between two bars of gold.
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>>551282746
Yeah, the island residents are composed of Sonic Team's forgotten characters. All of them dream of one day leaving the island, but not many are capable of doing so.
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>>551281939
I guess, that's it for now! Thanks for letting me spill all my Marines on the floor.
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>>551282723
Here
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>>551282997
Yes.
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There a better thread? Seems dead. I guess schizophrenic OPs drive traffic away.
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>>551283335
Nice, you helped yourself instead of begging.
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>>551281558
Exchange Amy with Kit.
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>>551283606
chest too small
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Douge
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>>551283769
Cute and canon!
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>>551283643
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Cream the Rabbit.
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>>551283769
>>551283967
you have to samefag every time you post because nobody likes shadouge
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>>551284219
Precious!
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>>551284619
Anon, I...
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>>551283769
is shit
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Cream is shit.
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>>551284158
Cute
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>>551285183
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cream the Rabbit
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>>551285404
I refuse
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>>551285404
I accept.
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cream the anon
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>>551284619
Make way, extras
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I love Cream.
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>>551285469
Shadamy and Sonurge are the endgame ships
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>>551285454
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>>551285469
Hybristiphilic yumes; all of them
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>>551285582
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>>551285735
*Hybristophilic
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>>551285181
final results
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>>551285836
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>>551285701
Shiturge's endgame is the vault.
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>>551284790
ting all over your headcanon
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>Wave will never peck your eyes out
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>>551286478
What is actually on Xvideos?
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where are the aifags and drawfags that take requests
chop chop get to work slaves
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>>551286936
Merry holidays anon.
And happy non-Chinese newyear.
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>>551286851
Imagine having a ship so boring the main girl Shadow appears with gets mogged by fagshipping and two characters who barely interact. Shadouge is sauceless.
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>>551287148
go to sleep krack
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>>551287024
Doesn't matter. Our content creators should be loyal no matter what.
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Shadamy sex
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>we will specifically announce it when the comic is gonna take place after Frontiers
>it already happened
>Eggman just left Sage home
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>>551286342
What does she actually use that big ass wrench on???
There are no comically large nuts on extreme gear...
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>>551288173
My cock.
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Shadow doesn't give a shit about Rouge and only tolerates having her around because she's useful for achieving his goals.

Rouge has shown been shown constantly manipulating Shadow to get what she wants.
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ok but maria is dead
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ok but how is that stopping shadow from fapping to his cuddle fantasies
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Shadow x his hand
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And that bit from the Annual
Completely doesnt match what happened in that Circus city
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>>551288147
Okay, so let me get this straight. During the the whole Duo/Clean Sweep Inc stuff, Sonic, Tails, and Amy fucked off and the stuff on Starfall Islands happened and then they came back and did that race? Am I getting this correctly?
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>>551288715
That story was written by someone named Iasmin Omar Ata. The only other stories in the comic written by this perfect are Winter Jam and the delayed Crossoworlds promotional comic.
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>>551288941
And what
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>>551288967
That's it. The rest is just cover artwork and coloring, and apparently some rigging for Tailstube, like for Jet and Professor Victoria..
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Head Writer Evan Stanley revealed that issue 83 doesnt take place before Sonic Frontiers.

The game happened earlier. There was dialogue in 84 clarifying Eggman kept Sage at home for a while, but Stanley was asked to remove it to keep things "continuity light."

Stanley and Flynn both fought to keep the dialogue and an editor's note regarding Sage's status in issue 84. As for the game's exact placement within the series, Stanley reasons that shortly before issue 68 is the only one that makes sense.
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Making IDW "canon" was a mistake.
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>>551289257
Like I'm going to read / acknowledge it.
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And just that
You could have had a smooth transition as already kinda happened after the Murder of StH
Sage was there and for a week it was canon and nothing happened
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>>551289137
why can they not just fucking follow instructions
why is it over a year since frontiers and the comic still hasn't caught up?
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>Sonic saves the planet from a giant purple rock that wants to destroy the earth.
>Later competes in the Clean Sweepstakes Race, gets sabotaged, and gets told to eat shit and fuck off by Lanolin.
Kek.
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>>551289552
The obstinate bitchyness is actually kind of a turn on
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>>551289435
How are they supposed address the "character development" Ian tried to force in there that Sega put the kibosh on?
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>Shadouge fans start defending IDW as in-character just like they did with Archie
these are literally the dumbest shippers in the entire fandom. Their pairing relies on them siding with ANYONE except Sega.
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>>551281558
Holy BASED, melty incoming
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>>551289552
>>551289609
she NEEDS daily dickings and pregnancy to stabilize her mood
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>>551289257
SOJ has no canon. Never has. Reminder that Two Worlds was a SOJ invention.

>>551289740
IDW is officially licensed by Sega. You mean SOJ, AKA the people who have consistently failed to make a version of Sonic that anyone likes, AKA the least relevant source on what constitutes in-character. Japan hates Modernic and Windnic. "Nicky" never made it to the games.
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*bakes holiday cookies with your OC*
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krack is like maria except instead of telling you that earth is worth saving she tells you about trannies and shippers
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>>551283017
That's not nice to say about Amy.
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Who will Imada be allowed to ship Rouge with?
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Defending IDW is less of contrarianism and more of a sunk cost fallacy.
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>>551289428
>for a week it was canon and nothing happened
Didn't Murder openly advertise itself as non-canon due to being an April Fools game?
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>>551284619
>>551284790
Cope
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>>551290002
lmao true
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>>551290002
Maria's from the 50s. She has no concept of trannies or shipping.
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>>551289740
they are drinking buddies in sonic X
don't make me tap yuji naka's tweet
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Has Evan ever tried to at least write shit down to attempt to make things coherent?
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>>551285972
>Old and irrelevant
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>>551290165
>Rouge slipping progressively stronger poison into Shadow's drink to knock him out and drag him into bed.
>Shadow's ultimate tolerance refuses to let up
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>>551287759
>Shadamy is insulting to both characters
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>>551290165
>Makes sex more intense and Shadow more experimental while drunk.
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>>551290165
>gives up and just shouts "Maria!" To rape him while he's PTSD stunned
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Did you notice, someone has been having a melty ever since the last issue was released.
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>>551289740
>Sega also wants them together
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>>551290159
lol can you imagine if the ark had internet access?
>they insulted my fanfic, shadow
>burn them all
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>>551290643
>Shadaria and anti shadouge hater is having a meltdown

Yikes, Hope you have a happy holidays.
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'ge
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>>551290839
Merry Christmas Anon!
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>>551290839
Cute n canon. Merry christmas!!!
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once upon a time a long time ago when things were better
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>>551290807
With all her freetime, she's an avid writer for the Tom & Jerry mail group.
She ships Butch and Toodles.
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>>551291291
>manface
>burqa
archie sally is disgusting
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>>551291291
Pic unrelated.
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Did you know that The Freedom Fighters were actually exposed as a cover for a fundamentalist religious sect?
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>>551290850
Merry Christmas, 'geanon
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female orange tabby OC X male calico OC
both have heterochromia
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>>551291526
Ok, but why was Sally an exhibitionist freak?
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>>551291291
Wind autism has finally infected my brain and now I just can't enjoy Archienic anymore. He's not even the same character. Good art though.
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>>551291715
nothing freaky about it
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>>551291291
Immediately after opening this picture I looked at X and saw someone calling Archie Sonic an OC that just looks like Sonic.
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>>551291715
God gave her fur to cover her giblets. Also chipmunks did not commit original sin as man did. There is no chipmunk Adam.

Also, very cute fanart, I love it
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It's so nice being a Sonic X Zeena enjoyer and having no strife because of it being niche
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Archie is basically like a highscool AU except it was official material and not fanfiction
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>>551291859
I think that's her concept art.
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>>551291813
There are more malding shippers out there who like to larp than unironic autistic windfags like randomfox.
do with that info what you will.
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Because Archie Sonic IS just an OC who looks like Sonic.
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>>551291945
Really? From what?
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>>551291995
Sonic X if good
>filename
no it's not
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>>551291954
Unless I'm mistaken the average windfag will hate on anything that involves mischaracterizing a game character and not just Sonally. Sonally is just the most popular thing to do this.
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>>551292012
Can't remember. I think it was a pitch for a French cartoon about the Freedom Fighters before slapping Sonic to it.
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Hey, so I'm trying to make a list of all sonic media in release order. Does anyone here know if someone else has done this before me? And if not, would there happen to be an archive somewhere that lists all the dates of the Archie comics?
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>>551292059
Single image convinced me to never read anything with Sally in it. Why the fuck do this to Sonic and not make new characters instead?
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Shadow being raped multiple times without rest while chained against the wall.
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>>551292205
more malding shippers than windfags. yeeeep.
I've seen more obscenely ooc shit with sonic without any sally around. and was in a parody segasonic world too.
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>>551292295
Sally can't exist unless Sonic is ooc
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>>551292254
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>>551291995
Sally would never do this. She’s a 90s American feminist girlboss and was written as having to tard wrangle Sonic and subject him to humiliation rituals in Satam
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Niggerdow.
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>>551292339
and you are wrong :^)

>>551292397
you too
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>>551292138
Interesting

>before slapping Sonic to it.
Wdym? The Freedom Fighters were always Sonic characters afaik.
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>>551292397
Archie Sally and Satam Sally are as different as movie Sonic and X Sonic
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>>551292360
He deserves it all for being a grumpy fag.
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>>551292454
Tried looking it up. I got nothing.
Dunno where the art came from.
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>>551292138
I don't know where this came from, Sally's final design is based on Rickys, she was always conceived as a Sonic character.
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>>551292437
>That description
Great work, but they don't fucking act like that in Archie at all outside of the first few issues. Sally is a drama queen tether that is the driving force behind every single OOC thing Sonic does in the comic. Don't even try this one on me, I've actually read this comic. I like it as well, but trying to push Sonally as in-character or in any way accurate to the games portrayal of Sonic is disingenuou even if it's in response to game purists misrepresenting Archie. It is absolutely OOC.
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>>551291715
>>551291859
>>551291945
>>551292012
>>551292138
>>551292454
This is one of the couple fan SatAM revivals by Knothole team. SatAM not Archie.
There are also Team Stout and Team S3ason. and there's that one fancomic you can see on grabber zone
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>>551291715
This is not Satam concept art
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>>551292740
They havn't been active since 2020 tho. I guess they gave up. Only Stout and S3ason are still active and they drop updates frequently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-QS1N6rGK8

>>551292836
It's fanart from "Knothole Team"
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I love mischaracterization in official content. I love seeing that the writers are humans with interpretations and freedom instead of puppets for mass produced game advertisements.
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>>551292339
Sometimes I wonder if these schizos ranting about how Sonamy is supposedly out of character because Sonic is free as the wind are really just Sonally simps using windnic as a front to attack Sonamy
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>>551292934 (Me)
Sea3on*
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>>551292936
>I love seeing that the writers are humans with interpretations and freedom instead of puppets for mass produced game advertisements
They're puppets of social media pandering and circlejerking.
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>>551293095
Using windnic as a weapon is something both Sonamy and Sonally fans do. Sonamy fans do it more because they know more about japshit
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>>551293095
Violet is the only sonallyfag who knows enough about windshit to even try this. Voicefag didn't even know "Sonic is like the wind" is a thing and ended up walking right into an angry storm of sonamytards.
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>>551293095
We have mostly evaporated around 2014 - 2017.
The small remainder of us are bold and direct with what we want. If you watch thread closely it's the other way around. that guy who says "Sally can't exist unless Sonic was ooc" exposed himself as a sonamyfag while having one of his melties.
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>>551293304
All you guys do is complain about Sonamy.
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Skins bundles on sale tomorrow
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>>551293420
Silver and Jet are so pretty
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>>551293392
aaah of course. boogeyman bad. yeah.
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Shitouge was always a whore.
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>>551293592
this is ic if age rating was not limited to E. Archie was a PG comic
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>>551293304
It’s not the 90s anymore, take off your nostalgia goggles.Only gender masochists and male feminist losers like Ian Flynn would like Sonally. It fits their unmasculine and shameful fantasy about wanting to be bossed around and tard wrangled by a short-haired girlboss
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>>551292190
Follow up to this, I tried to go looking for release dates for original Archie Sonic and could only really find wikis for release dates for the comics. Sonic wiki zone listed a date for an issue, so I looked for the citations and only found an external like to Mobius Encyclopedia, another wiki that listed the EXACT same comic but with a DIFFERENT date of release. I think managed to find a third wiki that only stated that same comic's release date as "199X". So I have no idea where the fuck these dates are coming from
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>>551293502
Is that Jet skin based also based on Sonic channel?
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>>551293764
Oh, and as a cherry on top both Sonic Wiki Zone and Mobius Encyclopedia somehow reference each other. And they both have different dates, fucking somehow.
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>>551293592
You don’t hate Archie enough. Because of crap like this, Sonic Team got scared of romance and neutered the games
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>>551293782
No
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Sonally is completely antithetical to Sonic's character in the games, but I can appreciate that the average Sonally fan has had this forcefed into their mouths. There is no need to point it out every single time it's posted.
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>>551293727
>It’s not the 90s anymore, take off your nostalgia goggles. Only manchild losers like (you) would like [thing from backthen when sonic was good].
coope

>>551294027
that's not romance/shipping tho. that's seduction. something completely different. and yeah it's something you don't put in a comic for kids.
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>>551293502
>Jet
That's not how you spell Tails & Knuckles. The beaks are UGLY and so is Jet
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>>551293592
Archiefags treat this as one of those things everyone hates, but this is the level of disgusting character rape that Sonally looks to me. It's even more disgusting when you remember that Locke is based on Ken Penders's own father.
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>>551294249
Yeah a Sonallyfag would not see why Rouge kissing an old man on the mouth is a step too far because "Well she's a seductive fem fetalle guys that means she can do that if the age rating is higher!"
None of you like Sonic.
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>>551294249
>>551294403
There is no such thing as a Sonally fan that understands Sonic characters
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>>551294403
I literally said "it's something you don't put in a comic for kids." you brain damaged ape.
>she can do that if the age rating is higher!"
it won't be a comic for kids anymore, retard
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>>551294249
Rouge is not as comfortable touching people as she pretends to be, she would not kiss anyone like that to gain the upper hand. The cheek is enough. She isn't even on the level of catwoman, it is definitely out of character for her to plant one on Knuckles's father regardless.
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>>551294249
Sonic was good in the 2000s. The games weren’t neutered, had high stakes and consequences, and the writing wasn't filled with millennial meta humor and the fandom wasn’t infested with radically progressive zoomers
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Somebody set up us redemption. Main screen turn on.
>All your villain are redeem to us
>You have no chance to evil make your time
>Ha ha ha
Why is IDW like this
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>>551294272
You are a nigger
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>>551293304
You don't need to be a fan of Sonamy to notice that every single image ever made that pairs Sonic and Sally has to mischaracterize Sonic in order to get it to work
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>>551294652
Writers are hardcore progressives with autism and are influenced by Steven Universe
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>>551294648
>The games weren’t neutered
Every game had some bullshit gimmick we had to dance around or was fundamentally broken
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the frontier timeskip already happened and we just didn't notice >>551288147
The comic is just so fucking bad at establishing its own world building that it isn't made clear. And all you people care about is that it has some fucking Shadouge hints. I genuinely hate shippers holy fuck.
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>>551294648
feels bad man

>>551294627
Yeah no. that was not declared fact back then... it's not a declared fact right now even. she is absolutely bound by the E10 rating. You don't understand the gap between E10 (something your little sibling can play at a family gathering) and PG-13 or PG-16 (your parents only notice when something awkward is going on). Archie of that era was written like a PG-13 comic. but hey whatever you feel like
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>>551294975
It was declared when SA2 fucking came out you stupid archiefaggot
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>>551294930
No one cares about the timeline
No one cares about Sage or Frontiers
No one cares about IDW except when it's making someone ooc
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>>551294975
Sonic games could be M rated and it would be OOC for Rouge to make out with an old man. She is too vain to take her seduction all the way. You would know this if you played a game with Rouge in it.
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>>551295070
ok. provide sauce.
>inb4 hand holding scene with knuckles
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Archiefags don't understand any Sonic character
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Archiefags hate Sonic games
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>>551294975
Canon Rouge would puke gtfo
>>551295184
It is actually a great example. Or at least read a Sonic channel story. Rouge is mostly putting up a front, she isn't a standard seductress character.
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>>551294708
Sonic looks in pain
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>>551295184
bro read too much michiyoshi and thinks rouge is a dom
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>>551294708
is that blood in the back? The fuck?
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>>551294760
>Has to babysit and tard wrangle Sonic because the male feminist writers made it that way
>Archie writers turn her into a whore
>Ian turns her into a lesbian because that’s his fetish and because he wants brownie points for stunning and brave representation
After so many humiliation rituals, how can anyone still like Sally? She was always westoid trash
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>>551295487
>It is actually a great example.
Her pride was hurt in that scene. women distance themselves when they think the surrounding man/men are jerks.
>Or at least read a Sonic channel story
I don't bother with that slop. you're gonna have to get it the exact sauce for me.
anyways here's Rouge's bio from the SA2 manual. This is like saying she will do anything. but age rating is a massive element here. her character archetype is CIA / KGB female agent. she was introduced as a government spy.

>Canon Rouge would puke gtfo
Well yeah
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>>551295737
i am a fucking retard and i like slop that's why
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>>551295557
Sacrifices must be made
Who wouldnt like to be bitten by Jet
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>>551295737
I've seen people desperately try to "canonify" her and she is the only character this can't work for. Even the other freedom fighters can be shoved directly into the canon and not lose any major character traits. Sally's personality and dynamic with Sonic require Sonic to be OOC. It isn't because of their pairing alone, it's because Sonic has to be reckless and slightly dumb or else Sally can't actually play out the role she has. Sonic has to be succeptible to joining a team for massive amounts of time and has to also like slowing down and compromising. You have to peal of major character beats from who Sonic is or else Sally stops acting like Sally. The Sonallytard pinning this on Sonamyfags is wrong, this is something Ian Flynn and Daniel Barnes both said, Sally's character is built around a different Sonic. It's like how you can't expect Game Tails to keep the same dynamic with Movie Sonic that he has in the games.
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>>551295856
original is better
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Merry Christmas

>>551295856
>each masterpiece has a cheap copy
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>>551295780
>I don't bother with that slop
if that's your outlook there is nowhere this argument is going to go.
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>>551296093
>fails to deliver the sauce
>"ummm it's your fault actually :("
concession accepted.
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>>551295959
>this is something Ian Flynn and Daniel Barnes both said
I recall both instances. sthg itself asked Ian if Sally and Sonic could date if Sally was canon and he was like "No." and Barnes said that the relationship Sally has with Sonic is integral to her character and that it wouldn't happen in SegaSonic. Sonic and Sally can't both be in-character at the same time. If you replace Satam Sonic with game Sonic then you end up changing every interaction Sally has for the entire show.
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>>551296209
>I recall both instances. sthg itself asked Ian if Sally and Sonic could date if Sally was canon and he was like "No."
This pisses me off. No fucking shit. Sonic and 'Sally couldn't even date if Archienic becomes 5% windy. Why the hell would games Sonic even be in the running?
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I don't know why you're expecting satamtards to understand Sonic's character
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>>551292254
How loud would he be?
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This last year has been such a pain. Sonallyfags remain the only group of Sonic fans that needs to have "Sonic is like the wind" explained thoroughly to them on a daily basis. Even then they act like it's a "meta era thing". At some point you have to give up and accept that these people are emotionally attached to a completely warped concept of the characters.
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if they really wanted the japan audience, then they would make more waifu characters and hire artists to make unofficial doujinshi
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>>551296798
Bro wants Electric Tale of Sonic
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I liked watching the arguments against Shadria slowly dwindle away into nothing except "she's dead" because they lost every debate
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>spending your holiday time here trying to ragebait somebody
you didn't receive enough bullying in your childhood.
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>>551296705
SonicXSallyfans understand gamenic they just don't like him
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>>551296980
>Shadow
>Smiling
Chronicles is a bad game
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Serious unironic question. Why is Sonic one of the only franchises that isn't doing nostalgia crossovers? There are dozens of them now and they are easy cash grabs.
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who gives a shit whether or not shadow reciprocates ? just rape him. take the last bit of his innocence away. edge his sensitive virgin cock. force him to cum again and again until it hurts. just do it
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>>551297264
that's how you get queen sally posts
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I was this happy every time i heard the word "videogames" 15 years ago.
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>>551297117
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Approach life with the intensity of a shipper who has just been told their favorite pairing is ooc
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>>551297558
Intense anger, spite and assburgers?
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>>551297712
Yes
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>>551297751
Sounds like a good advice.
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>holiday
It's Christmas
Sonic was born on Christmas Island
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nothing happens in idw
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>>551297468
SA2 is OOC
Heroes is OOC
Generations is OOC
Forces is OOC
Olympics is OOC
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it's been 8 years since forces and the most interesting thing to happen in the games is learning chao are descended from aliens
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>>551298061
For real, 100 issues and the world still feels empty.
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>>551298254
frontiers is the only mainline game that progressed the plot at all in the last 18 years so
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I think I hate IDW
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>>551298481
Why? It's just Raped-ow being shit as always.
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>>551298481
Don't worry Shadow, Silver will carry the plot for you while you change your diapers
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Why is everyone surprised that Sega is not treating the comic as if it is canon? I'm not even denying it. It's supposed to be canon but Sega have historically been retards about this sort of thing. Literally look at the moon.
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>>551298481
Shadow jobbed in idw? again?
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>>551298481
Now watch as Uwuver comes in to save the day
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>>551289930
>You mean SOJ, AKA the people who have consistently failed to make a version of Sonic that anyone likes
Archie Sonic is still better than Jap-Sonic
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>Sneaking a jobdow moment into a shadouge moment
IDW is so clever unironically. They know that coating it in Shadouge will keep the fans from being mad about something that would not happen in the games.
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>>551298061

>the resistance disbands but not really
>the world almost ends due to a zombie apocalypse but gets over it 5 minutes later
>the restoration nukes itself but it’s okay because the various outposts are self sufficient (because they don’t actually do anything)
>Starline dies but he gets better because oops we have need a non-Eggman villain because Clutch is/was a wet fart of a threat
>Frontiers happened offscreen 3 or so years ago because Sega obviously isn’t going to let the gaijin comic serve as an actual prequel to a game

I love my canon(tm) comic
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>>551299187
Shadowfags get mad even when he doesn't job like 2 chapters ago when he won against Sonic fair and square but Soleil got away so Sonic "won"
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After reading reboot Archie, the biggest difference is that it is so self serious compared to IDW. Other than that they feel exactly the same.
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>>551299309
>the world almost ends due to a zombie apocalypse but gets over it 5 minutes later
This encapsulate the entire essence of this shitty canon filler direction.
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Treating IDW as canon now results in the ending of Frontiers having absolutely no meaning, which is fine because there was no way anything good could come from Sonic Frontiers.
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>>551299635
IS this a picture of Nine? Prime is arguably an even bigger mistake than IDW in the canon
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>>551299798
I know, am i not allowed to post nine for some reason? Nigger?
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>>551299462

unironically what did he mean by this
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>>551298481
This page looks like shit, I have no idea what's supposed to be going on right now
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>>551299686
I'm not sure how many franchises do thia but if you delocalize the writing across the globe of a single canon i would expect inconsistencies to build up over the years. You're in for quite a ride.
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>>551299105
If grabbing people is considered heroic then call me a savior
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By Evan by the way:
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>>551300204
He seethes about anything not made by the Japanese, because he is a brown zoomer.
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>>551300664

I’m glad this is waking some zoomies up to the fact that IDW’s canonicity was always purely a marketing gimmick and was never actually going to mean anything significant.
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IDW is just Archie 2. This isn't news.
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>>551301350
Just more pozzed, autistic, and lame
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>Lore Team
You're being paid for doing nothing
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>>551301350
No it will never be archie 2, the amount of worldbuilding required, romance autism, loose writing + boomer culture required for that is impossible to obtain nowdays.

Archie/satam/early sonic all revolved around sonic being cool, extreme, and young. Sonic is the ghero so guess who gets all the girls? Sonic.

And penders is progressive, but as a boomer he still can write a womanizer without finding it odd. Try to tell later generations to make sonic a womanizer AND the hero of the story.
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>>551297243
No one, and I mean NO ONE, really cares to be associated with Sonic.
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>Silver the 3rd most popular character
>Blaze the 7th
>Mefi the 12th
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this is officially what happens right after frontiers
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>>551301942
>Try to tell later generations to make sonic a womanizer AND the hero of the story.
Archifag, do you genuinely think the only reason people have a problem with this is shipping and politics
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>>551301350
No it's not.
the gay steven universe comic will never be archie
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>>551301350

Most Archie readers weren’t under any delusions that the comic was canon and would impact games down the line.
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They lied about announcing the post-Frontiers change
They said they're gonna make it as clear as possible
And you are supposed to know the change has happened from Evan's Tumblr
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>>551301979
Silverbros, we’re so back!
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>>551301979
Vote polls barely mean anything, neither is popularity, look at how popular Knuckles is, people barely care about him yet he's very prominent is official materials.
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>>551302123
Shipping, politics, corporate vision, wrapping it with other media with muh canon. IDW will never be archie because archie is at least a landfill of content you pick whatever you want and build a story.

IDW is more a wasteland, devoid of appeal. Also i'm not an archiefag, i hate archiefags because it's why idw sucks, idw writers are all archiefags. I just give credit where it's due.
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1 Sonic
2 Shadow
3 Silver
4 Tails
5 Knuckles
6 Amy
7 Blaze
8 Metal Sonic
9 Cream
10 Jet
11 Espio
12 Mephiles
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>>551301979
where is this from?
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>>551302623
https://x.com/i/status/2003767699718193273
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>>551302737
Ooooh that. I voted Shadow and told them in "I got into Sonic through that American show that had Sally." and "I wish we could get more of her"
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>>551302581
Cream not being in the top 5 feels like a rob.
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>>551301979
Let's see how bad my jap is
>sense of justice is cool
>his voice is daisuke ono (jojo)
>his power is green (maybe smells that way?)
>I like his basic, straightforward
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>>551302581
I for one am glad to see no human characters.
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Good to see Archie fans still hate the games
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>>551303326
I like the games....that were released before 2006
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>>551302581
Cream,Jet, Espio and Mephiles, secured a place before Eggman and Rouge? what?
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>>551302581
>>551302737
I hope this means we're getting a year of Silver soon.
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>>551303415
This, nothing past 2006 seems really worth even a single playthough.
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>Archidiots still pretending their shitty comic was in character
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Silver is never beating the nepo baby allegations
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>>551303326
Tell me what's good about the modern games.
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>>551303582
That is something I’m looking forward to as well
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>>551302581
>>551303496
didn't even notice Rouge was missing from the list what the fuck
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>>551303582
The year of Shadow happened because of the movies, not because of some poll.
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>>551303496
Yeah what the fuck is this list? It should be something more like
Sonic
ShadOW
Rouge
Amy
Tails
Cream
Metal Sonic
Knuckles
Eggman
Silver/Blaze
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My egyptian wife.
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>>551303705
Archie fans would shit on SA2 if they realized none of it supports their shitty comic's characterization
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>>551303827
Movie franchise now. Games are only an afterthought
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>>551281558
Is Starline really returning? he was my fav!
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>>551302581
Our Sonic Heroes!
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>>551304254
>gamefags think their shitty games are ic
gamefags don't like the movies
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didn't answer the question btw
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>>551301979
It's that darn P word again!
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>>551304110
I don't care about your shitty game characterization.
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>>551304518
That's what I said archiefag.
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>>551304482
All greatness begins with potential
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>>551304518
Everyone knows Archiefags don't care about the characters
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>>551304583
game sonic doesn't have a real personality anyways
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>>551301979
>>551303215
Daisuke Ono is carrying Silver hard
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>Everyone knows Archiefags don't care about the characters
You say that as if it's a bad thing. am I supposed to feel bad because I don't care whether sonic likes to nap in a cave or on a couch?
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>>551304951
Sonic Team being unable to really take advantage of otaku seiyuu autism bites them in the ass pretty hard in Japan.
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>>551304850
All potential is projection
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>>551305014
Archie fags hating the games and needing to change every character is annoying
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>>551305246
I wanted to see his paws...
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come on, tell me sonic's personality, what is it?
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>>551305447
gay
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>>551305246
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>>551305664
UHHHHHHHHHHH BASED??? BASED ALERT??? BASED BASED BASED
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>>551305664
Our japanese kin are beyond based
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>>551305581
>sonic is like the wind
>the wind has enough moral alignment to discern good and evil
Only windfags are this mentally ill.
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>>551305664
my dick got hard...
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>551306229
pre Flynn Fiona
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>>551305664
I would kill them both.
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>>551306227
Can I jerk you off?
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>>551305959
How would you right Sonic to be truly the wind then
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>>551306315
actually I changed my mind. It's always Fiona
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Every time i ask about sonic personality people go radio silent.

So let me reiterate: what do you like about sonic?
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>>551306423
i want to have sex with him
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>>551306381
i don't, because sonic is not "the wind".
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>>551306339
Not today
Im on my Christmas no masturbation week
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>>551306582
But Sonic is the wind
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>>551306596
HNRGGGGGG FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Next week then?
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>>551306582
Only shippers say this
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>>551306782
If it has a girlfriend then it isn't Sonic.
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>>551306668
With pleasure
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>>551307079
Thank you anon, I always wanted to live out my faggoty dreams.
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>>551307194
My faggoty dreams are with hedgehogs
We're not the same
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>>551307252
I also have faggoty dreams with hedgehogs but I fear those will never come to life.
Human men are the only chance I have...
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Why do westerners insist on calling Sonic a "hedgehog" as if that's what he is?
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>>551307416
so we're just saying shit now?
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Jpfags will never beat the autism allegations.
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>>551307457
You did play Unleashed right?
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Sonic THE hedgehog
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Sonic, the guy that loves adventure
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>>551307457
Sonic isn't just a hedgehog
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>hogs your hedge
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hedge the sonic
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>>551306423
Sonic is a chill guy with no greater aspiration than to have adventures. He does not desire the warmth of other people and he never compromises his values, desires, whims, or impulses for anyone.

Yes, coincidentally every single impulse he has ever had has been morally righteous.
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Evan Stanley is complaining that Frontiers cannot be placed in the timeline where she wants it to be AND that the timeline placement still does not make sense.

I am annoyed she is asking people to feel bad for her when her method of writing stories leads to this problem.
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>>551309068
I get where she's coming from. The current arc doesn't allow for Frontiers to be set between issues because different people have the chaos emeralds. At the same time none of the other IDW arcs can be set after Frontiers because Tails Knuckles and Amy reuniting with Sonic is not treated with any weight at all. The comic is fully fucked over.
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>>551309306
Would you have continued to write the comic in a way where this would be a problem if you were told this was going to be the result?

Also it was likely Evan's decision to introduce SAGE now.

This is mostly her fault.
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>>551309068
How is this her fault? You guys blame everything on Evan.
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>>551298689
>>551298978
>>551299080
>>551299105
If you please consult the chart before talking about powerlevels
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So we're at a point where 2 years of issues are set after frontiers and not a single one of them addresses the week or two where Sonic was absent, the Chaos Emeralds flew away, and Tails Knuckles and Amy all had major eppiphanies? This is literally worse than Primenic not recognizing Metal Sonic. You cannot make this work.
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>>551309068
anon was right, the drama behind IDW is better than IDW itself.

Sadly, no one is writing it the way sthg does, so you have to live it.
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>>551309550
You can in a children's comic where nothing is all that important
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>>551309582
Oh lawd oh mighty she's askin for it
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>>551309417
And you guys laugh at me when I say SSS works like rock-paper-scissors
And then there's guy like (you)
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>>551309417
Sally has defeated Sonic once and never lost to hhim
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>>551309582
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>>551309582
>Sadly, no one is writing it the way sthg does, so you have to live it.

>Shadow gets sexually abused by a non canon princess
>Surge goes from traumatized by Sonic to a tsundere for Sonic
>Tails is some kind of gigachad
>Amy is all over the place
>Silver is a rapist with a low iq
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>>551309550

are we really surprised that everyone is flying by the seat of their pants while zero communication is going on between Sega and their licensors
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>>551309642
How am I wrong though?
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>>551309413
Who chose to write the sage story now?
Who chose to write the comic in a way where it would not easily be compatible with the games?

Her.
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>>551309857
HRNGGGGGGGGGGF UNFFF I NEEEEEEEEEED TO FUCK THIS GUY NOWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>551309863
You are not
Thats the poimt
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>>551309582
I literally warned Evan that this would be a peoblem
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the next game will explicitly imply that Sonic, Tails, Amy, and Knuckles haven't seen each other since Frontiers sine that was the entire fucking point of the fucking game. That they will all go on personal journeys and surprise each other with their growth. This cannot happen ith the RIDERS ARC is the immediate arc following Frontiers.
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>>551302581
>top 5 all dude
FAGGOT FRANCHISE
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>>551309980
No Dream Team is the immediate arc following Frontiers.
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>>551309927
ai slop
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>>551309980
Eggman hates working with Sonic in frontiers and suddenly is seeking out Sonic's help out of convenience. The comic was never compatible with the games.

Even Prime and DC X Sonic do not get this wrong.
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issue 68 being what comes after frontiers is more confusing than the 06 Blaze situation. I'm here for it. This is classic 2000s Sonic writing.
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I genuinely hate IDW and all of the staff behind it. They'd rather shill child sexual mutilation porn instead of doing the bare minimum of planning things out or communicating with one another or doing characterization research. IDW will never be canon. Nobody who cares will ever take the events of the comic seriously. I wish Archieslop didn't die for the sole purpose of keeping IDW's deranged retarded staff away from the actual games.
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>>551310057
alota imagination has ruined this planet.
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MIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Merry almost christmas /sthg/!!
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>>551310085
It's funny how Prime went out of its way to have an ending that undoes everything that was clearly just there to keep it from affecting the game canon, meanwhile IDW cannot work around 2 simple details
>Amy Knux and Tails haven't seen Sonic in a while
>The emeralds need to be out of the picture for a short period
That is all they had to do. Instead they just chose NOW to make the story about the emeralds?
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Frontiers should have been placed between 56 and 57.
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Name one objectively good thing IDW or its staff have added to the Sonic franchise. I'll wait.
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>>551310225
merry christmat, mina faggot
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the funniest part is that it means issue 69 is the first post-frontiers issue. that's funny because of 69.
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>>551309068
just let her shove Belle into the story and stop complaining!
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>>551302581
>top three are hedgehogs
typical
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>>551310327
merry christmas*
FUCK
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>>551310257
I told Evan when Frontiers was revealed that if she was not being given details about Frontiers ahead of time then SEGA is not serious about combining the two and she needs to focus on self contained stories.
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reminder real women arent sexually attracted to tails only faggot pedos want to fuck tails
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>>551309417
This chart is anti-wind
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>>551309927
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it's almost christmat
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All I want for Christmas is Silver's dick.
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>>551310430
>>551310327
thanku mwah, merry christmat
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>>551310647
why would Maria Robotnik say this?
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>>551310225
Merry Christmas, noodle poster.
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>>551310515
Sonic happily being a king is as "Anti wind" as it gets
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>>551310515
You want him to be flying type? He can’t fly. Maybe electrict type could work
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>>551310785
he could fly if he felt like it
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>>551310768
Sonic sitting amongst his new friends and rivals before going off to his next adventure is as windy as can be
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>>551307790
OwO
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>>551310868
Then why does he need Tails?
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>>551310257

just you wait, Starline will use the Saturn Wave to reboot the comic to fit the current status quo
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>>551310952
he doesn't feel like doing it himself
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>>551310225
Marry christmas, my daughter.
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>>551302581
>Sonic
>Shadow
>Silver
>Tails
The new Core 4
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I feel bad for Evan now. With her as head writer and Ian moving on to the games, she is going to be tanking most of the anger from characterization and canon purists. I'm not saying her writing is perfect, but her writing style is 100% guaranteed to make characterization purists for anyone other than Amy very upset.
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It's his birthday.
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>>551311160
Her writing style is trying to force everything to be like Archie.

She does not even like much of what Sonic is outside of Archie.
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I'll make her smile today.
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>>551311248
yet idw is literally nothing like archie so she fails at everything p much. Evan is a really good artist but a really bad writer
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>>551309417
>idw comics
you might as well add archie and sonic x
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>>551311248
Your writing style is trying to force everything to worship trannies and you do not even like much of what Sonic is outside of stalking IDW staff
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My takeaway is that IDW is still canon, so is Prime. They cause plot holes but so do several of the games.
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>>551311427
Why are you defending Evan if you hate trans people?
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>>551311469
Trannies don't exist
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>>551311427
Who are you talking about? Evan? She does not post here.
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>>551310868
Ok then
>>551311375
Cope
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>>551311469
I just hate you.
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>>551311428
Canon in this franchise means nothing other than "we take elements from dfferent media and add them to the games"
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>>551311428
Games are not nearly as bad until Forces
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>>551311572
You seem like you are attacking Evan.
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This is all Evans fault
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>>551311649
you should kill yourself slashy
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It's depressing as a Sonic fan to know that to this day, pre-boot, which died in 2013, is still the best written sonic continuity
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Round up Sparky, Krack, Scribbles, and Randomfox, then force them to work together to create a Sonic comic.
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>>551311528
>>551309417
These charts don't serve any purpose
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>>551309550
>Tails Knuckles and Amy all had major eppiphanies
Was never canon
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>>551311930
>pre-boot is still the best written sonic continuity
archiecuck delusion is wild
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What is with the Evan defense force now?
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>>551309980
>that was the entire fucking point of the fucking game
That is only in the English version and Sonic Team never cared about it
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>>551311973
Their comic would flop in day 1 then they'd blame "westfags"
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>Ian tries to come up with some explanation for how Sticks can exist in the main continuity, Sega says no
>Evan tries to add a footnote to explain why Sage hasn’t shown up despite the comic now suddenly being post-Frontiers, Sega says no

why even bother with the resurrection arc, just have Starline randomly show up unscathed and robbing a sperm bank
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>>551311973
Don't do something so cruel to scribbles.
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>>551312207
People have different opinions on things, fun fact.
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>>551312209
do you understand why the fact that the japanese dub changes the entire theme of the game is a bad thing
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SEGA and miscommunication: name a more infamous duo
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Sonic is attracted to Amy and human women.
Amy is attracted Sonic.
Knuckles is attracted to Rouge.
Rouge is attracted to Knuckles and Shadow.
Shadow is attracted to Maria.
Blaze is attracted to Silver and Sonic.
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>>551312327
Yes but this place generally hates IDW and Archie and the only reason this is happening is because of the anti-JP writing of IDW
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>>551312316
If anything scribbles would torture all of them to have his vision
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Does Tails still call himself inconsistent in JP Frontiers?
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>>551312494
Tails is the only one in the game who doesn't change from japanese to english. Japanese Frontiers Tails still complains about his behavior in Forces.
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>>551304951
Is he the reason why Silver is always jojoposing?
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>>551312470
>Yes but this place
tends to have different opinions on things.
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Which one of you fucks is running that Sonic twitter account that is responding to people who post about their kids in the hospital claiming they deserve it for not buying crossworlds
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>>551312281
>Ian tries to come up with some explanation for how Sticks can exist in the main continuity, Sega says no

Yes sticks should not have a backstory.

>Evan tries to add a footnote to explain why Sage hasn’t shown up despite the comic now suddenly being post-Frontiers, Sega says no

Yes the writers of the comics should not be dictating the timeline and even the footnote would make no sense. This is their fault.
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>>551312316
Scribbles defends at least one of those other namefags all the time but I won't say who
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>>551312578
wtf, show
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>>551312040
nah, that's just how much shittier the rest of the sonic continuities are, including the games
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>>551312575
No it does not, it is pretty consistently anti-IDW and anti-Flynnnic.

The only way you can be pro-IDW this hard is if you do not like the games' storytelling.
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>>551312652
Sa2 mogs archie cope
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>>551312559
I guess Tails being a fuck up is canon then
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>>551312329
>the japanese dub changes the entire theme
It doesn't. The Japanese dialogue was written by the developers who actually came up with the story. Ian was barely aware of the actual themes of the story and only came up with English dialogue that the developers trusted western fans would enjoy more than their actual creation. Ian's "theme" is only contained to his fanfic tier version of the dialogue, has nothing to do with the overall story, concept, or themes, and was even ignored by The Final Horizon. Calling the Japanese version "dub changes" isn't exactly accurate either, it's more accurate to say the English version is an unfinished draft that wasn't properly supervised by the director
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>>551312578
Nice
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>>551311469
Trans are not people. Shitshy.
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>>551312578
Every day I think Modernfags can't possibly get more pathetic, and every day I am proven wrong.
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>>551312758
Then you are defending Evan then
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>>551312578
that's concerning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBO06XaUDQ
This video is slightly older than the official trailer release, but I can't actually find THIS cut of the trailer anywhere. It's as if this leaker got a specific version of the Trailer.
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>>551312758
Based
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>>551312639
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>>551312813
It was recorded from cinemacon.
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>>551310225
Merry almost christmas to you too, minaanon.
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>>551312832
damn, some people really got nothing better to focus on during the holidays
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The more tails socializes and relies on others, the weaker he gets.
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>>551312832
This wouldn't be happening if they had just made Mania 2 instead of indulging Modernfag autism. Just saying.
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>>551312672
It doesn't matter if you think it's consistent or not. No amount of words will change the fact that people have different opinions. It's a simple concept.
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So what if I'd suck Scribblefag's cock? What are you going to do about it?
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>>551312948
Hermit Taila, sson
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>>551312796
Who the fuck is evan?
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>>551312832
There’s an account called Tripster the dude keeps responding to which posts like him, probably the same dude trying to self promote.
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>>551313021
I'm going to write a fanfic about it an mischaracterize you BOTH.



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