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Infinity Blue Skies Edition
Thread Theme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRosMyUkQ3g
Previous Mission: >>550891784

>AC7/8 on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/502500 (AC7)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288340 (AC8)
>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/ybyx6
>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guide
https://rentry.org/acegMPguide
>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
https://rentry.org/3tokr
>Ace Combat 3: A New Translation
https://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK
>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net/
>New /aceg/ MEGA
https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm
>PA Twitter (JP)
twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES
>PA Twitter (ENG)
twitter.com/AceCombatGames

>AC7
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:
>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes
>No EML/QAAM/SASM
>In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel

>Resources
https://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvV
https://rentry.org/ho8mm
>OP Template
https://pastebin.com/e9PNHDcD

>Project Wingman
https://store.steampowered.com/app/895870
>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PW
https://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn

Misc Stuff
>/aceg/ Collage
https://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png
>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0
https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV
>Razgriz Patch Guy
https://www.strangerealpatches.com/
>Ostrich's Mods
https://superostrich.xyz/
>/aceg/ Assault Records
https://pastebin.com/CjuB314d
>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guide
https://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx

>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY
https://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg
>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk

>/aceg/ Permalink
http://orph.link/aceg

BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...
>Is there any AC8 news yet?
YES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0
>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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Is this true, buddies?
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I replayed Ace Combat 7 just now. I wish the part of the campaign when the satellites are down and your strike group is basically just trying to survive the chaos was a bit longer. A couple of more missions would have been nice. It is such a cool concept. The campaign somehow manages to have some crazy detail while also feeling rushed or patched together last minute. Was a fun time either way.
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this thread has been fact checked by real FCU patriots
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>>551295139
Almost all of the story acts need more missions imo
>Mage squadron threw Trigger under the bus instantly
>Most of the cast in Spare Squadron got killed too quickly
>The blackout part
The only exception is the LRSSG part pre-Farbanti and it's all thanks to the DLCs.
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Merikuri, /aceg/. May you find your favorite plens under your trees and may 8 grace us soon(TM).
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>>551296189
I love my star spangled federations
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>>551293773
>retaliating against misdeeds done to them, they may be seeking to change society as a whole
torres wants to just nuke oured for the sake of nuking oured
that is the full extent of his true motivations
>motives are a mystery
mimic wants to kill trigger for the rep and cash boost in that order of priority
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Merry Christmas, everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WY95vTp0no
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>>551299559
>The special Ace Combat 30th anniversary sound project, "SOUNDS IN THE COCKPIT: ACEZ EDITION," is a special music and sound effects project that combines classic music from the Ace Combat series with powerful sound effects by the Bandai Namco Studios sound team.
>With a fusion of immersive sounds such as the roar of jet engines and realistic radio communications, you'll fully enjoy the feeling of becoming an ace pilot.
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>>551304708
>>551299559
I wonder if this is some type of test to see if anyone want AC0 remastered
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>>551299559
I better hear missile warning sounds
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>>551304812
they've been doing it for every game in the series since late september
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Let's say I dont want my WSO to get bored while I'm dogfighting, can I give him/her an L16A2 to fire at enemies with from the backseat?
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>>551293219
I'm reposting it from the last thread, I'll try hosting an end of the year Shootout on the 27th in case someone is interested same rules as always (2500 cost).
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>>551308770
What are you talking about?
t. newfag
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>>551309241
The lads here set up multiplayer matches in AC7 to catch up. They often institute fun gimmicks like tunnel jousting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-W9KuTGib4
I wish infinity was still around and went multiplatform...
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https://x.com/kazutoki/status/2003646197840642340
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Is your plane all decked out for the Christmas day?
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>>551313123
more or less
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Anyone have more art from the previous years before the general slowed down? I like this stuff.
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Anyone know where to get ACAH beside keys? I want to see how DFM works in PvP, and especially the total assault modes.
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>>551315358
>AH
>Thinking MP is still active on it
Anon.......
Hope you got someone to play against already lined up.
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>>551315758
I bet it would hae if it stayed on steam *cries
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>>551299559
Spanish Guitar, jet sounds, missile tone
Yeah thats the good stuff desu
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>>551315148
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A thought has been in the back of my mind for a bit about something I could see happen in 8
>might explain the smoke
Seeing as they are leaning heavy into Strangetwitter what if after your first encounter with Shadow squad and you shoot down at least one of them. Tasha goes to twitter being the squads E-girl to hype up the kill
>She isn't showing a prerendered battle
>She is showing your replay from that mission
Your first run will look bad but later runs will have her showing you style on those Su-57's in an A-10 or since we are based on an old carrier then hopefully do it in A-6, S-3, F-4, A-4, A-8, A-7, F-8

What do you think the chances of this being a thing will actually happen?
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>>551319130
An offhand mention to moralboost the troops about "the wings are back".

I wonder if they will make a micro hint about Summer Skies.
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Was the afterburner A-10 video removed from youtube? Was it too powerful?
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>>551293773
Is Yellow 13 even a villian? His sense of honor seemed heroic, despite being on the opposing side in the war. Other than just being "the enemy", was he all that villainous?
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>>551309632
Cute, mistletoe is better than a TOW missile
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>>551322539
Yeah, Yellows are just soldiers on the enemy team, and the game does its' darndest to present it as such.
4's only "villain" is the Erusians who started the war.
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Any buddies have a good guess at to what that thing in the background is?
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>>551322539
Mobius 1 & Yellow 13 are neither hero's or villains they are merely aces in a war. 5 is when the whole hero/villain thing started up.
3 lacks hero's & villains as well it only has a cucked scientist power trip going on.
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>>551323046
HUH I didn't even notice this I know exactly what this is
>YES my wish came true I've been wanting this map in free flight for a long time.
This is the location of the last stage in AC 5 arcade mode
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>>551323092
Dision is techincally the villain. Park too, but he's also a tool.
And the Doc is psychotic, but at least keeps it in his ai simulation videogames.
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>>551322927
>4's only "villain" is the Erusians who started the war.
Them and the crazy faction at the end who steal Megalith and coopt the Yellow Squadron's livery.
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>>551323046
huh. where'd you get this?
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>>551293773
Pixy was a schizo who wanted to lash out at the world with no backing plan.
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>>551323532
>Dision is techincally the villain. Park too,
In Simon's head they are but outside the simulation we'll have to wait and see how it really goes
>but at least keeps it in his ai simulation videogames
Never beat all 5 routes?
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>>551293773
Torres' entire motivation is literally just trying to one up the high he had while he was a gunnery sergeant by upping the stakes and kills
Everything else is just window dressing to get followers.
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>>551299559
That's the good stuff
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>>551324413
As far as the game is concerned, "we" don't know what actually happens post Simons experiments.
Him saying he'll release Nemo doesn't mean evertyhing will happen like in the game, not to mention we don't have a clear picture of what is going on irl at the time of the experiements (other than N, GR and UPEO backstabbing eachother for science and/or profit)
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>>551323965
Off the official english twitter
>>551323513
BASED
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>>551325331
mayb this means the coop will be like a 2p arcade mode...
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>>551322927
>>551323046
>more nostalgiabait maps
things aren't looking too good brehs...
Hopefully we'll get to see at least some of Verusa
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>>551325984
Arcade mode has 2 maps that are unique to it and never used again. We didn't even get them in 7 the score attack mode in 4 also has 2 unique maps we never got again.
Its not bad at all that just 4 missions to use those old maps on. However one will not look like it did in 4 Megafloat has come a long way in construction since 2004.
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where was pixys v2 headed anyway?
8 simultaneous capitols?
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>>551334723
It's a cluster nuke, most likely open up in high orbit and bomb all over the place.
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>>551325984
>why does the marketing team show some obscure map in usea for a game we know is set at least in part in usea
doomerposters are some of the most retarded people i swear to god
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>>551334723
MIRVs are incredible weapons when you stop to think about it. Imagine having the power to glass twelve cities with a single launch.
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>>551335374
You don't need to stop nor think, it is instantly visible.
When you see and think you are fucked, only for that fucked to turn into fucked x Nth amount of times right in front of you, you really get to feel how your day couldn't be more ruined.
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>>551334723
Weren't they going to nuke the place where all the politicians were discussing the post war settlement?
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>>551334723
Presumably Dismarck and the capitals of all the Allied nations (Oured, Cinigrad, Directus, etc.) to 'reset the board' as it were.
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>>551337207
Nuke the allied capitals then waves of C-5's packed full of Belkan NBC troops and equipment descend to take control of their enemies cities

>Belka smart now has countries that glow in the dark. Save lots on energy cost is genius thinking
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I wish the first AC8 teaser was a bit more "teasery" sorta like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTPHZyJPn8A before going more in on the story.
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>>551337127
The postwar settlement had been in place for six months by the time of the Avalon mission.
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>>551337736
Relative to when their trailers dropped, AC8's further along in development than 7 was. I think they went over this in one of the concerts but they hadn't even finalized who was in the suit making the jump when they created the visual.
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>>551338186
I mean, even without that detail the scene makes for a great tease.
You got some planes, drones, characters, locations and a voice that slowly turns ai, while the Grunder cameo and OSEA insignia would let people tie things together that it's AC.
Stuff like this offers so much to pique interest compared to the random short dogfight.
Not that the full trailers are bad, just that 7 had such a big ass potential for a teaser and they kinda fumbled it(most likely didn't have time to put it togetehr by then).
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>>551334723
it was an insane super mirv so it was probably just going to target at least all of osea, but the world with no boundaries were crazy and probably wanted it to do more
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>>551337736
if you want to be a bit loose with the definition of "teaser" kono was tweeting about visiting sotoa in late 2019/early 2020
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I hope they start posting these PR screencaps at a higher res than 1080...
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>>551318454
Thanks anon
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>>551343361
Don't think V2 is that powerful. Unless the warheads were some kind of Tsar Bomba grade nuke. Maybe destruction of the capitals?
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>"His name... is Markov"
>"HEYYYYYYYYYYYYY YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY"
Lady, what the fuck are you doing yelling, I'm listening to a briefing here
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>>551352581
It would have to be pretty damned big to house eight Tsars, those things are huge.
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Looks like Flyout just got an early access trailer.
>blueprints for the XF-62 Singularity
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>>551353617
kino
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Blyat, it ain't got no gas in it Ivan.
>>551356630
It was just so out of nowhere I wasn't expecting it lol
>>551355904
I wonder if the reindeers have dogfight mode enabled this Christmas
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>>551356994
One of the cooler missions.
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>>551356994
>>551353617
It's the song of his people.
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>>551357205
Yea I'm liking these missions, although I feel like they do tend to drag on a bit longer than I felt in other entries for some reason
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>>551356994
Fuck I really love this one
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>>551354958
I saw Fenrir in that
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does anyone have the Ace Combat Infinity trailer where one of the lines is "I think I see the Reaper coming for me" and the guy sounds scared as fuck
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Merry Christmas, buddies
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>>551358343
I see, Assault Horizon is a Christmas game, I should've known.
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>>551356994
I always thought the missions when you get to Russia were fun enough to keep the game enjoyable, keeping DFM to a minimum. Launch and Naval Warfare are the standouts.
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>>551358503
It's closer to a Su-30/35/37X or whatever that futuristic fan modof that series is.
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We got a new contact on radar its moving at incredible speed. Requesting launch of TSR-2 for intercept and ID target
>I don't care if the pilots are working at their mom's Chinese restaurant tonight
>Get them in the air now
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>>551339465
The 7 trailers were essentially a sham anyway. Gave people the wrong idea of the game even was going to be.

I still remember most discussions and memes made about the game was from that "Burn Osea to the ground!" line and that was a complete non sequitur in the game itself.

8 so far seems pretty straight forward about what it going to be. The only thing up in the air is the how/if they are tying it to Elecstrosphere.
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They're having damn raves down in the Caucus regions!
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>>551360841
Wingspan-to-body ratio is giving shades of G9 Eclipse
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>>551360728
>The only thing up in the air is the how/if they are tying it to Elecstrosphere.
I think its kind of non-negotiable that PA is attempting to tie 3 into the more contemporary PS2+ timeline. Its going to be interesting to see the degree of retconning, though (retcons are kind of unavoidable). FWIW, I think the basic outline of "corps gain a kind of political influence and cachet that was formerly reserved for nation-states due to the latter being unable to properly manage the aftereffects of Ulysses (all those wars!) on the Usean continent".
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Is this thing still working?

Finally have some free time to talk about the trailer.

>focus on carrier operations
Very nice. I actually hope most missions take place at sea. That means mostly air to air missions where you occasionally bag an enemy ship. The focus on clouds (this time fr fr) could mean that there is environment variety mission to mission even in the middle of the sea.

>Ghost of Kweef stuff
And this is where I start to doubt. Ok, Ghost of Kyiv was made to boost morale in the opening days of Ukraine. Essentially copaganda spread on social media.

In the game, the Ghost is actually real. It's (You). Ok, but what else can you even say at that point? There isn't much more to it, I think.

>Katabuchi as the returning writer
And it's over. Does anyone really trust the man to have anything worthwhile to say about social media? Someone who is probably a literal boomer who still remembers the post war period? Someone who, at least judging by his work on 5 and 7, doesn't have any nuance to his writing? The gameplay better be 6-tier or above, because the story doesn't seem like it's gonna be it.
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>>551363473
>it is
Ok, this one?

>no Chinese or Korean planes because muh license issues
Disappointing but expected. Worried about the implications for the roster. I don't want your only options for the endgame to be the F-22 or Su-57 yet again, almost 10 years removed from Lighthouse.

I don't think any of the new IRL stuff is gonna be in. J-20 or the Chinese 6th Gens are out. Su-75 is likely out, unless PA is satisfied looking at the prop Russia has lying around. Tempest is out because it's still far off. NGAD/FA-XX is out because I don't think there will be anything we can physically look at by the time the game ships.

Shame, because all this new stuff would fit right in as we move closer to 3. Mods it is then, I suppose.

I've seen people say they can add older planes to fill out the roster with new entries. I wouldn't mind the idea if the game didn't take place in 2029. There should be new planes, not old ones. Don't tell me Strangereal is regressing technologically too.

They better include the planes from X and the GR planes from 3 to make up for it. In fact, I wouldn't mind if half the roster were OCs to showcase the advance of technology.

Although a Tornado decked out with laser weaponry would be pretty sick. Which should be even more prevalent in 8, naturally.
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>>551363473
Joker Squadron is a literal social media propaganda squadron that only gets piss easy missions. The "Ghost" is a fraud, at least until (You) take his place after he fucking dies.
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>>551363840
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>>551363840
>>551364045
Good stuff
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>>551363689
I think they will just bring back more fictional planes to cover the high end part of the plane tree, yeah. It would be very very boring if the only high tier planes were the F-22/YF-23/F-35/Su-57 AGAIN. My current cope over no chink/gookplanes is that they're doing this to leave a conciliatory opening if the political situation changes, because if they really wanted to they could just throw the planes in and avoid mentioning the actual manufacturer a la Sukhoi/MiG.
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CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAYYYYY
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>>551365505
I figure that unlike Russia China expects plane license fee's
Besides best way is leave them for now so when you have a war between two nations in Versa you could work them in much easier
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>>551363473
You probably should’ve taken more time to think about the trailer before posting newguy.
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>>551365687
I will heil Katabuchi over this any day of the week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRdMX1VaZA
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>>551363473
Did you miss the part where they straight up tell you that Wings is a fraud (at the time)? And the end trailer slogan is towards the player to go beyond the propaganda?
Also, 7 story is plenty servicable when compared to AC stories as a whole, so idk what you are trying to imply.
5 was more focused on wingmen and "myths" instead of the overall narrative so i can get what you mean there.
Also, if they aren't being rushed and shoestringed like they were with 7, i'm sure the story will be good enough. PA are too afraid of true danger scenarios (like the end of PW, in fact, 3 was the closest to "shit's really fucked yo" ending scenarios), so can't really expect it to be anything beyond the standard zero-hero story where we lead a winnig charge with an oocasional twist.

>>551365935
It's likely to do with homeland propaganda reasons too. 1000 folded Maoluminium and nationalism guided missiles etc.
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>>551366217
I need more Lord Steve Bloom the Inheritor in my games.
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>>551366320
Oh yes current political issues would mean a JP company paying the CCP in cash for plane rights wouldn't sit well at home especially with the government. Its a bad idea
But hey that just means a much better chance for KF-21 and even the Truk plane to get in.
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>>551366320
>PA are too afraid of true danger scenarios (like the end of PW, in fact, 3 was the closest to "shit's really fucked yo" ending scenarios)
PW was a standalone game so they had no issue fucking their own setting, and 3 is a distant future sequel so same thing there. PA/BNA isn't going to go that far because it would cause obvious issues writing later games.
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Are they going to force the old man out of retirement
https://x.com/AceCombatGames/status/2003873304512245842
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>>551367638
I mean, SOTOA can get nuked, hence the corps take over and UPEO put in place. But we know nukes won't happen, or anything for the mateer because nothing ever happens.
Also, the endings to 3 (simulations) aren't some doomsday scenarios per se, but all of them have some tangible damage being done to the place. The act of Megafloat sinking or Geofront collapse are massive events, yet it's not some end of the world tier scenario, but a massive tragedy. Zero had bombing civilians and the 7 nukes as the most radical things that ever happened since 3 (at least from the top of my head).
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>>551368806
Slop? really?
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>>551368910
It doesn't matter what happens with Sota they aren't in USEA and as far as we know the megacorps will only control that continent not the entire world.
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>>551365505
>if the political situation changes
I don't think the recent spat factored into it at all. I imagine dealings with the license holders are done very early on in the planning stages. PA probably tinkers with plane models all throughout development.

The Japanese PM kicked the hornet's nest only back in November or so. That's way too recent to affect any changes.

So Shenyang/Chengdu stuff is off the table permanently.
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>>551371018
>I don't think the recent spat factored into it at all. I imagine dealings with the license holders are done very early on in the planning stages. PA probably tinkers with plane models all throughout development.
The DLC aircraft sets for 7 didnt take very long to drop after initial release, though. PA does indeed alter models all throughout development, I recall the Su-57 in 7 was initially still the prototype T-50 during prerelease showcases.
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>>551356994
kek no i know exactly what you mean, it popped me big too
it is a kino track though
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>>551371537
>PA does indeed alter models all throughout development
They also do it after launch remember several of the updates had listed in them changes made to the plane itself, the cockpit or just the skin
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Since we're on an older carrier...she could show up?
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>>551315148
I do have that /aceg/ collage commission from like 2020. And also the patch/emblem collage. But that's all.
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darkstar from the topgun movie collab is cool and all but they really couldnt give us a meme sr-71 or xb-70 to fly?
fix it for 8 pls
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>>551377379
XB-70 won't come unless bombers come back altogether.
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>>551315148
Remember the Starblazer!
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>>551361195
Incredible, I'm speechless... They somehow managed to suck out the fun out of the last mission by making it a forced dogfight mode section. You hit the button and you're on the rails 3-4 times in order to even get through/advance the fight. Not to mention the fight itself was equally as unfun as Sulejmani from Joint Assault, the most acrobatic plane I've seen in my life, not to speak of those amazing 360 spin, near perfect homing missiles that you inevitably have to eat 2 or 3 at a time once he sends them out.

The game really wasn't as horrible as I was being told, if anything it was just a very bog standard CoD story, with "fairly" standard Ace Combat flying, minus the main gimmick of course. But there really was no fun to be had towards the end, as enjoyable as some missions were, it really just drained any ounce of enthusiasm I might have had going into it, Music had some good songs but I couldn't remember any of them by the end out of how sour I was
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>>551378150
kono basically already nixed strategic bombers and helicopters as playable aircraft, closest we'll get are multicrew strike aircraft
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>>551356994
They did a really good job of illustrating how dire the situation is in this scene. They don't even have time to stow their fuel lines before reversing out of there, there's bombs falling everywhere, a jet goes down right over your head, when you taxi out a group of tanks and AA vehicles hold your flank...
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>>551379754
Yea, all the Caucus missions I really enjoyed, helping them land, liberating the fort/town, and the naval bombing to get the prime minister from the yacht were pretty fun. Heck I really loved the Moscow helicopter mission as well
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>>551379584
ACAH isn't that bad when you're a fan of the series and have plenty of games to play.
Now imagine it's 2011, AC6 is stuck in Xbox Jail, Zero was 5 years ago, and ACAH is all you have. It'll be 8 long years until AC7 and all you'll get in that time is Infinity, a Freemium game that makes you wait for or buy fuel(with real money) to actually pay it.
Like this is what the Ace Combat series is now, CoD-inspired slop with a bad central gimmick and terrible ending, even if some of the missions in the middle are fun. That's all you'll get for nearly a decade.
And this is why the fanbase hates the game so much.
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And then there was one... I can finally catch up and play Ace Combat 7 after this one.
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>>551381138
Isn't this one just AC2 but they added some gay cutscenes?
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>>551381197
AC2 but actually lined up with the PS2 era continuity
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>>551377379
kingfish when

>>551379754
isn't that also the mission with White Devil? it's one of the russia ones i think. love that track
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>>551379584
It really isn't that bad, it's just a frustrating letdown compared to proper Ace Combat. It absolutely has it's moments and good points.

You definitely should play AH Legacy though. It's nothing at all like AH and only has that name for marketing. It's more of a remake of 2.
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JP Ace Combat twitter posted a way higher res version of that new AC8 screencap.
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>>551381138
Are you using the default screen layout? I'd reccomend switching to "Large screen" since the bottom screen is only used for your weapon selection and damage status.
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What a beautiful night.
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>>551384524
Even for Ace Combat this line is as subtle as a brick to the head.
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>>551384524
last hope is so kino
I love night missions
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>>551381138
This one I never finished, sure its just AC2 with some new stuff but something about it just sucked the fun out of it compared to the original.
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>>551384958
Last Cope
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DRIFTO TIME!!!!!
>Captcha was OBC
kek
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>>551361483
>How many control surfaces do we need?
>More.
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Buddies, will we ever see the F-5 again?
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>>551382458
Interesting base setup they have down there.
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>>551386303
Check outside your window.
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>>551386345
If you want a good view of it go plays 5's arcade mode to see it up close.
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>>551379554
I will never get tired of this Gundam Wing-esque built in plot armor. So damn kino.
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>>551382458
tired of meme super hornet
bring back legacy f-18, it has so much more sovl
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>>551386957
Good news
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>>551386957
wow good thing AC8 has that covered
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>>551386957
I genuinely cannot tell the difference aside from the Super Bug being Xbawks Hueg
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>>551387309
externally OG Hornet has a curvier LERX, circular intakes, trailing edge of the all moving elevators at the rear are curved instead of pointed
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>>551387309
The two easiest things to look for
>Original bug
single seat
Intakes round and small
>Super bug
double seat
intakes big and square

If in doubt just look at the cockpit.
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>>551387309
Easiest way is the intakes, Legacy Hornets have circular intakes while Super Hornets have squarish intakes. Second easiest way is the Leading Edge Root Extensions (LERX), the legacy hornet's are thinner and pointier, while the Super's are rounded and broader.
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>>551387578
also OG Hornet has strakes on the leading edge root and a large petal airbrake between the vertical stabilizers
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>>551293219
so buddies, what did you get from santa this year?
we already got ac8 so that kinda makes things a bit awkward
merry christmas
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>>551387578
>>551387603
>>551387801
>>551387805
Honestly I don't know I never noticed that the seats were the deciding factor, I thought there were single seat Super Hornet too.
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>>551387905
i brought happiness to those around me, its the best gift
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>>551387603
Legacy and Super Hornets both have one and two seater versions
Single seat legacy is A/C, super is E. Twin seat legacy is B/D, super is F and the Growler
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>>551388043
there ARE single seat super hornets, so its a far safer bet to just look for the S shaped bend to the LEX and the intakes if you can spot em
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the narrative in ac7 feels so convoluted
like too many stories going on at the same time
they should have stuck with one and fleshed it out, not half-ass 5 narratives at the same time
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>>551388347
We call it development hell for a reason
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>>551388347
it got fucked a bit by development issues and rewrites
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>>551388043
>>551388118
Correct, the Blue Angels fly super bugs. There are two designated two-seaters but the rest are singles, if memory serves.
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>>551386094
And it still manages to handle like a brick in its own game. Dual autocannons make for fun strafing runs though.
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>>551361483
Legit have no idea how the fuck an archipelago island in SEA has a fleet of 4.5 gen fighter jets
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>>551399229
Assloads of oil money.
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>currently in the process of playing through 4, 5, and 0 for the first time
so is ac 5 just kinda shitty or what? it feels like a significant downgrade from 4 desu
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>>551400927
based trvthnvke
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Merry Christmas, buddies.
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actually playing 5 rn and its dripping with mega sovl
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Another subtle AC3 connection...
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>>551401947
It's my favourite of all time, hope you enjoy it
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/our/ shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RAiBd35auU
What do you think?
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>>551405469
It was cute watching his reaction to AC8 at TGA. Personally I'm enjoying the weird sidearc where he's learning more about Vtubers, wild that his first "real" collab with the sphere (apart from the two writers/producers who introduced him to some of the bigger works) is with Ironmouse of all people because she wanted to be an Opera singer at one point. I wonder who in general he'll get to play multiplayer with him since AC8's steam page has a co-op multiplayer tag.
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>>551405469
When his viewers told him to react to Zero, I genuinely think he's unprepared for a flamenco with latin lyrics
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Introductory plot was revealed to me in a dream just now.
Wing of theve is something akin to the blue angels but the gimmick is hes like the greatest war pilot of all time (ace of aces).
Then the the enemy attacks when you're doing the ridealong we see in the trailer.
There is no going back, its full on war, you have had some flight training, armed forces are refusing to admit wings died because it would kill morale. Its all a sham, a marketing ploy
But ur gonna be a true hero
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>>551405469
I keep forgetting the guy who made music for these games went onto making music for the Anime Horse Girl Racing Game
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>>551409524
for me it's one of the major Metal Gear composers (Akihiro Honda) being the guy who made Umapyoi Densetsu
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>>551410012
And apparently he did so while drunk off his tits, in his underwear.
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>>551379584
>forced dogfight mode
>main gimmick
See, that's the thing. Much like Mihaly and unlike every other game in the series, it doesn't matter how gud you get. You have to wait until the old man stops talking or you have to do an on-rail bit where your target is invincible for 30 seconds because it has to take you on a stroll through a stadium or something. Taking away player agency like that is plain bad design. Just make it a cutscene and be done with it.
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>>551410012
>Told to make a denpa song (catchy electronic thing, might be wrong)
>Was told that his first attempt isn't good enough
>Get drunk and stripped down to underwear, writing the music
>Turn sober and see what he has written
>complete the song
Man I wish I can do this just as an excuse to get drunk on the job
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>>551410012
The things horsepussy does to a japanese man...
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>>551412420
Well one of Hatsune Miku's first ever songs (by release date) is about horse sweat, so yeah
https://youtu.be/pC0W9A3qGAc
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>>551381138
What in the name of bing bing wahoo is this lmao
I'm guessing Nintendo told them to shove their IP on this release or they ain't getting their 3DS port or something?
>>551383687
Will do this then
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>>551415439
The + version is compatible with Amiibos (remember those?) because it was a re-release for the New 3DS. IIRC, that's how you're supposed to unlock these planes.
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>>551416620
There was a giant question mark block from Mario in like the second or third mission and shooting it down gave it to me
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>>551381138
I've also finally got around to playing this game recently after installing it on my ancient 3DS, though I haven't finished it.
It's a nice novelty to have an AC game on a system as compact as the old 3DS, although I feel that it very visibly chugs hard at points.
The maneuvers system reminds me of Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces for the Wii (PA made that one too), and if that game's any indication then the end game is gonna be a whole lot of waiting and mashing Y.
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>>551417481
There's a achievemnet for a "no maneuvers clears" so it should be possible.
Basically they made ACAH in AC2s story, but nonintrusive and with much better general enemy ai.
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>>551370330
Yea the Anea nations look to be coming back pretty decently and well the Oseans might still have a grudge against GR considering the entire Alicorn thing and almost getting Oured nuked with GR helping run interference for not only the Alicorn escaping but the nuke shells getting loaded within.

>>551417481
The that system is a crutch for new players as AC:AHL's primary determination of S rank is time and that thing takes a good chunk of it for the cutscene.

Using it tends to screw you out of S-Ranks.
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I didn't think I'd finish it all today, but it was a much more shorter game compared to I would say Joint Assault. The maneuvers were ok, still kind of on the rails, but not as egregious as Assault Horizons. Certainly an interesting entry for the mobile collection, I definitely enjoyed what little of it there was, but not much more than I would say, Skies of Deception from the PSP.
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its time
because why not
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Woah... a modern title... not modern enough for my Ultrawide though
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>>551425265
Did you get to fight Cocoon Squadron?
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>>551426317
Yea, it was a bit hectic but nothing too bad from a bunch of simps lol
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hey wait a minute, WT???
W of T??
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yeah im thinking they should bring back winggirls

nagase you naughty girl
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>>551427783
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>>551427601
I could sure go for some snacks
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>>551427783
This reminded me, the new Macross might release in 2026 as well. It's shaping up to be a good year for planefag, I hope we get some crossover skins if it does drop.
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>>551425848
That girl at the start chose a bad time to start flying her own plane and I got a janky ultrawide support patch/mod to work so we're in business
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>>551425790
that didnt last long
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>>551382458
And we're going to get even more screenshots near new years eve.
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>>551431616
lmao did you even finish it?
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>>551431828
He probably didn't even finish the 2 Remake
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>>551431828
this playthrough? no, i tapped out at mission 3
i did complete it before, many years ago
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>>551431828
LE EBIN WYDE SKREEN Mod probably broke and he ragequit like a bitch
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>>551432015
AH is not worth it.
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Holy moly this is pretty
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>>551432514
wait till you get to the clouds
ac7 is stunningly beautiful
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>>551432514
Yeah PBR materials are a godsend
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The final AC5 tunnel sequence is the most kino moment in the series. I basedfaced so hard when you and Bartlett fly past each other and then you have to do the insane high-speed dodging while Hamilton is chasing you.
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>>551432568
I love the clouds, and the effects of flying through them are super cool as well
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think it would be very cool if 8 did the AC5 thing of modelling every plane with external hardpoints drop pods so you can jettison them AC7 TGM style instead of seeing them automatically fall away like in 5
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>>551400927
It's carried hard by the second half, everything from The Journey Home on is ludokino
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>>551433875
i've seen a theory based on AC8's cover image where the cover plane has droptanks that if you choose to not equip a second SPW (or I guess equip two of the same for extra ammo maybe?) then the empty hardpoints have droptanks instead.
so who knows, i think it'd be a waste to not bring the mechanic over after AC7 introduced it as a DLC plane gimmick
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>>551433457
Woah pretty lady
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>>551435028
SHE A THOT
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>>551435028
What in the JRPG UI hell is this
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>>551435310
They got fucking lasers too?! And I saw a railgun too reading through some of the plane weapons, this shit looks like it has a lot more fun toys to play with
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>>551435885
Yea we got two flavors of laser now the old TLS which is BWEEEEEEEEM and the new PSL which is Pew Pew Pew lasers
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>>551435278
Oseans fuck off
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>>551435028
Cosette is eithe the most waifu princess or the biggest lesbian princess. The only man she ever interacts with is Schroeder and everyone else is Mihaly's granddaughter (who she went to school with) and Avril (big tomboy energy). I wonder what she's doing during 8.
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>>551438276
She became a diplomat after 7, so she's probably still doing that
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>>551435885
Woah big bird
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>>551432946
the most kino moment in the series is the joust with pixy
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>>551431616
kek I returned mine, didn't even want the disc on my shelf. Fuck AH.
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Merry Christmas buddies
May your planes have many a Sota tally marks next year.
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I love Christmas.
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>444
>"Sir this Wendy's stopped that promotion years ago"
Also yea blame the guy shooting down the drones for, well, shooting down the drones. They toss us in jail because maybe possibly perhaps we shot down the president's plane, as opposed to just not shooting and letting the drones blow it up instead. A bit dumb but I'll roll with it.
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>>551448303
If you manage to shoot down everything on this stage you'll get special audio lines from everyone even Bandog has something to say.
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>>551444718
Merry Christmas.
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>>551448616
2 years ago someone did this to me with the Hunt the Ice Worm mission without bringing the needle launcher and after doing it he told me maybe I missed it so I did it again.
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>>551449382
If you try to do you'll need someone fast and can spam a lot of missiles or lasers. So Darkstar is the natural 1st choice, XFA-27 is a good choice or really any other planes that have PLS
That is how I heard the extra lines I was goofing off with Darkstar and huh new lines after I shot down all the fighters and bombers.
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>>551448303
Yea okay dude
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>>551451689
It's funny that normies think this is a joke and not accurate to real life nobility.
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>>551451689
Is A. also part of the real name? As in "A period"?
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>>551452298
At least Mihaly has a last name. Some nobles don't have one (famously the Bri'ish royal family for one)
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>finish wingman+dlc
>find out federation core states are all in the pacific
How the fuck did pacific states manage to get pilots from germany to Magadan.
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>>551455584
apparently an offhand mention in one of the DLC missions states that the fed highway 1 is planned to stretch from magadan to "byzantium"
the most optimistic interpretation of that is that the federation is a superstate not only spanning the asian pacific seaboard, but also reaches westwards all the way to istanbul and/or greece
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>>551453474
I think it's another of the localisation fuckups in 7, like how Martha turned into 'Massa'. A. is supposed to be 'Ah', apparently.
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>>551454560
>famously the Bri'ish royal family for one
Whaddya mean? They're the Windsor family, formerly Saxe-Coburg Gotha.
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>>551459852
Different anon, but royal bongs flip flop a lot on whether or not they have a surname, whether the royal family name serves as their surname, and all that jazz.
If I recall correctly they generally eschew using a surname proper except when necessary, which is when descendants of the Windsor line default to Mountbatten-Windsor as a surname.
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>>551433875
>>551434339
Does dropping the tank actually do anything or is it just for I M M E R S I O N?
>>551455584
A Pacific based power having constituents from not-Russia isn't too big of a stretch. But the less you think about PW's setting the better honestly.
>>551459675
I still cannot even fathom how you can make a translation fuckup like that.
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is the ac7 top gun dlc even worth buying?
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>>551462202
Just use CreamAPI.
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>>551462202
Yes
Do you want an F-14 with superplane stats? you get one
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>>551462202
Wait for a discount if uncertain.
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>>551462202
Only if you want an F-14 that can be reasonably used in the later missions on Ace difficulty
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>>551463586
Its all on sale now

>>551463794
And a plane that carries 4 PLS & makes the Mig-31 look slow
A Hornet with superplane stats plus the option of dropping the drop tank on command. That was still one of Kono's best mistakes.
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>>551363473
fuck off bolt.
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>>551462202
absolutely. F-14A TGM version is beautiful and is an endgame tomcat with post stalls.
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The pack also comes with both Mavericks & Icemans planes from the original
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>>551453474
Maybe, the S in Harry S. Truman just stands for S
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>>551453474
the A. stands for Aryan Period
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>>551462202
the only dlc worth buying is the mission ones, and the one with yello13 su37 skin, fuck the topgun stuff
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The F14? i don't care for it.
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>>551438276
getting mating pressed by trigger every night
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>>551438276
shes living happy in the harem of theve
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Ace combat X is actually so good wtf?
its right up there with the ps2 games, i'd put it above 5
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>>551430421
You think macross 30 and delta scramble will ever get english patches
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>>551481972
God I can't wait for those sweet multi-layered clouds
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Nothing more orgasmic than fighter planes, and on that topic, what do you think are the most orgasmic Ace Combat tracks? No posting Blue Skies since who could deny that.
https://youtu.be/haEoo0RHu-Q
https://youtu.be/UFhMGXI6B9k
^^^This one makes me jizz.
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Cariburn, new planefu

I wish ac8 will bring some more project aces custom planes, i doubt it will, but it would be cool
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>>551490027
SEX with FORWARD-SWEPT WING PLANES
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If there's any game that could do for a remake it's Ace Combat 1. If they tried, they could make it one of the most kino remakes every. The template is great and even in it's simplicity is incredibly soulful and kino. If they further fleshed that out with it's image in tact it could easily be one of the best games ever. Just this music alone could be a basis for what it looks like https://youtu.be/La0-8rw9dzY
This track conjures images in my mind just with the sound. A number of remasters drift from the spirit of the original, and maybe they have to sometimes, but there are some cases where there's enough of a vision there that it's clear enough to still be persued without jeopardizing the spirit and ethos. Maybe Air Combat could be an example of that. https://youtu.be/La0-8rw9dzY

Not that anyone cares.
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>>551493643
Whoops didn't mean to post the lonk twice.
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>two named aces show up when you go up against the alect squadron
>Sorrow in a su-37
>Pain in a f-22
KINOOOO i love japan
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>>551493956
cute
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>>551486963
Briefing 2 always gives me goosebumps, it's a perfect track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgm5J_kROC8
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>>551486963
Obligatory Magic Spear 1 mention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIIHmEAdEI
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>>551486963
Invitation to Ace Combat 2. Not that I dislike the "new" OSTs but hope they can get some tracks on this style again because fucking hell, the first time I heard it I felt it in my bones.
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>>551495127
Pure seggs. I haven't gotten to playing AC2 yet, but I really like this track too https://youtu.be/YwDFd6E-CM0
I don't know how to describe it but there's a certain beauty to it that's lost to time.
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>>551493898
What would Fear, End, and Fury fly?
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very nice
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>>551496668
<<Altitude! Altitude! Pull up! Pull up!>>
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>>551496668
skill issue
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>>551485380
does macross 30 even emulate correctly yet?
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>>551486963
Currently playing X and this track FUCKS
attached to 2 funny missions too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv4QImVDJYw
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>>551486963
AC:AHL's ending theme really stuck with me, I let it play everytime I replay the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJ_mkgFeAE
Prelude from ACX's soundtrack is one of my favorites too, but if I'm being honest most of the songs are as I really like how most if not all have the main leifmotif of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSaZtqXoSl4
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I replayed Ace Combat 7 several months ago and I still don't know why the fuck Nagase gets an appearance right at the end of the game. Was anything about her or her trip to space actually hinted at anywhere else during the campaign and I just keep missing it?
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>>551504350
Something about a space mission is mentioned in Rescue when the AWACS is talking about how great Harling is, but that's it.
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>>551504350
In rescue some Gargoyle Squadron pilots mention that they won't be able to return home if the elevator is destroyed, and the flight lead replies that it's not one of theirs. They don't name drop them though.
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>>551504350
>Was anything about her or her trip to space actually hinted at anywhere else during the campaign
Yes, once, as an extremely vague off-hand mention by a faceless mook just before a sequence that is hard to understand by itself.
It's in Rescue before Gargoyle is ordered to shoot at the elevator where one of the Gargoyles states that "they" wouldn't be able to return without the elevator and HQ replies that "that ship isn't one of ours"
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>>551504856
Genuinely though what the fuck did they expect to do against the Lighthouse with just Sidewinders?
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>>551505221
harling realized that near the end
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>>551496072
Don't forget the joy
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>>551505221
That Sidewinder can destroy tanks and battleships with just a couple of them
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>>551505676
maybe something like the upgraded f-16 that's in patlabor 2
or an f-23 for the black widow joke
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>>551505221
Breaking the windbreak?
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>>551490027
>tune up the cariburn
>can straight up feel the g-force in 1st person
damn thing handle like it’s make of paper I love it
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>>551496072
>End
Nieuport 10, consistently sneaks into enemy controlled skies and shoots down all the super planes
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>>551496072
>Fury
MiG-27M Oops! All Incendiary
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A quick question for the bros currently replaying the games.
The ps2 emulator now works pretty much without an issue right? do you still have to apply the widescreen and deinterlacing patches or are they automatically used now?
I see them listed so should check those or are they not needed anymore
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>>551508540
If you have the settings to do so enabled in the Graphics settings, then PCSX2 automatically applies relevant patches if available.
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>My lady!
>They took down my queen!
I cannot fucking handle Cocoon Squadron
They're gonna down me by obliterating my sides, holy shit.
Also fuck, wingmen actually have in-mission dialogue. I've been neglecting taking them to save cash, but I guess that's something to look forward to in a second playthrough.
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>>551508670
Oh okay i have that setup already, thanks bro.
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>>551504808
>>551504810
>>551504856
Yeah being that brief and that vague is crazy, no wonder I missed it, thanks.
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Is there a way to fix the ghosting in the clouds in project wingman? I know its one of those unreal things but its annoying.
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>>551509350
my exact reaction facing off against those simps lmao
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>>551453474
>>551459675
>>551460726
Someone said in a previous thread that it stands for Archange which is his callsign but it's abbreviated to hide that knowledge from the player at that point in the story. I'd have to refresh my memory on exactly when all his introductions occur to see if that sounds plausible.
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>>551451689
What da dog doin
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>>551517707
Leaking info to Torrez.
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>>551517707
>woof woof woof woof woof
nuke belka again you say?
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>>551517707
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>>551505221
I think they had the idea of damaging the windbreak of the elevator enough to shut down the Arsenal Bird’s power supply but didn’t tell anyone because just like real life, Strangereal’s UN is retarded.
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>>551517707
Thank you for the pardon Vice President
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>>551521556
Cool plane, looking at it reminds me, I hope we get to see a lot of the General Resource and Neucom planes in future, modern titles
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>>551529257
I hope 8 brings back the non-super fictional planes in X to bridge the gap further.
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>>551531042
Yeah, it's a big shame 7 didn't add any standard issue fictional planes despite how heavily it leaned into experimental specials.
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>>551504350
I want to learn more about the state of spaceflight in Strangereal, they've got a space elevator and have had mass drivers for decades, at one point you see the ruins of "many space shuttles" on Tyler Island, which makes me wonder how many there were and what they were used for before becoming obsolete. IRL we only had five and two of those killed people.
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A rerun episode!? But this time it seems we're not going to blow it up!
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>>551536619
You can't know how cool it was to return to this map for the first time after 20 years both in-game and irl, AC4 was my first Ace Combat (and first PS2 game) so the nostalgia baiting 100% worked on me, I can't even be mad about it.
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>>551534973
They have to be light years ahead of us, considering SSTO's were in regular operation by 2010. They also have orbital solar farms with microwave beamed power, and the SOLG (which is a kilometre long, 10x that of the ISS).
Imagine if NASA got the budget to prevent the Apocalypse.
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>>551537160
you're the yellow now
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>>551537421
Reminder that the pre-trailer sequence had a brief snippet of terms like "gravitational field, electromagnetic radiation, stellar mass" show up. Seems like its hinting at something space-related.
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>>551537421
I'd love to see what Pegasus-1 looks like, mounting a mission out to solar orbit for an asteroid redirect is definitely beyond our current tech but Ulysses seems to have injected adrenaline into the development of manned spaceflight. I wonder if they were relatively less developed before and only started rapidly advancing after discovering the asteroid, or if 1960s Osea had the equivalent of the Apollo Applications project. They had Space Shuttles so they must have followed a similar development, though it seems like the Shuttle worked out better in Strangereal than the irl ones did. Maybe the original "rapid landing/refurbishment/turnaround" idea actually worked as intended, leading to fleets of Shuttles ferrying tons of material to orbit for building big shit.
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>>551538875
*Pilgrim-1, freudian slip
Pegasus is from a 2-part BBC special called "Voyage to the Planets", a fictional documentary of a future manned mission to visit each planet on a single trip spanning several years.
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I want one :(
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>>551505221
Hit it hard enough to trigger the safety system to kick in and cut the power akin to what happens in Mission 19 to kill the drones

>>551531042
I expect to see some of those showing up at least the R-series planes. Maybe we could see a YR-100 as a superplane to be the bridge between current generation (YR-99) and Neucom's R-99

>>551538065
We might be going orbital considering the detail in the patent mentioned both space and energy weaponry.

>>551537160
The opening of the track is just a chef's kiss. And just seeing those monsters in HD was beautiful.
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>>551531042
yes the fictional planes in X are much cooler than the planes in 3
dolphinus a shit
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>>551541482
A gimmick mission where you get to pilot a prototype weaponized spaceplane would be sick...
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>>551534973
The mass drivers may have lead to shuttles having a different layout for launch which may have avoided the entire external fuel tank issue and with multiple countries having manned space programs there could have been legit case where a stricken shuttle in orbit holds it's ground while the Yukes/Oseans/Eruseans/FCU launches a rescue shuttle and picks up the crew while sending their shuttle down on autopilot.
Really Comona's complex is a bit of a relic and we know they had at least one shuttle blown up during the Coup (which had one of the laser sats which were going to help intercept Ulysses).
That said a Arkbird was utter madness to launch when you think about it
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>>551541843
>sounds of entering electrosphere in the distance
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>>551541053
THEY'RE REAL!?

>>551541843
Might be a launch to do a last ditch ABM/ASAT mission with a laser equipped craft.
EXITING ATMOSPHERE
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>>551541843
>mission where you boost up to LEO and blow up an opposing nation's spacedock to thwart a military expedition to Mars/Titan/wherever
We Space Combat now
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>>551542073
>The mass drivers may have lead to shuttles having a different layout for launch which may have avoided the entire external fuel tank issue
That would definitely go far for increasing launch cadence/turnaround time for shuttles, particularly if they built a large fleet and flew them regularly. Crazy to think that that's now considered obsolete tech in Strangereal with the space elevator in operation, though Avril considers mankind needing to find a new way to space if that thing came crashing down.
> <<how many Gs can you take, pilot?>>
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>>551537160
Fvark...
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>>551543930
Yea the mass drivers were probably built mostly for SOLG component launches / assembly missions as it was for civilian/science missions.
Considering how much of the SOLG they managed to build in under 5 years they had to have some crazy amount of launches as the barrel of the thing alone was 1km long
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>playing AC5 for the first time
>get to Journey Home after crashing a million times in the Jilachi Desert
>oh, this happens on November 29, my birthday
>watch Chopper die on November 29
FUCK.
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>>551486963
Not AC but close enough. The PW leitmotif comes out swinging at 3:07 and it gets me every time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-zU6_ospA
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i always thought the 2 drones at the end of ac7 should have been named after (and based on the stolen conciousness of) mihalys granddaughters, it seemed fitting and more intense of a story twist
but maybe that would have been too extreme for the game
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>>551547223
that sounds corny as fuck
hugin and munin being the personal ravens of odin and acting as his spies fits the thematics of 7 way better
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>>551543930
And I'm a moron and forgetting that at least by the 2000s we see a pure setup for them with Ace Combat 5 with the same design being used in Ace Combat 7
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>>551547223
Sounds dumb, but it would be very Schroeder of Schroeder to do that. The fucking weirdo.
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>>551547686
>>551548019
i want my dumb corny plotlines
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>>551547709
Looks like something derivative of the Venture Star, like DreamChaser but actually useful.
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>>551548019
I also could see that the first two were named by Corporate and well he's not going to change the name of the drones against the orders of the guys who were paying him to build their drone AIs
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>>551548074
Do I have the indie AC-like for you!
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>>551548248
It's pretty damn close to the one we had in Ace Combat 5 just well far higher polycount.
It even has the same orange area for mounting the booster pack (or Cargo Pod?) that we see in the Ace Combat 7 version as well.
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>>551548650
Forgot my pic
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>>551548435
thats nice, adding that to the mental ignore list
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based operashill showing ace combat to the opera innercircles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDiPW8Xx3d0
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>>551548851
>>551547709
Looks like it uses external drop tanks staged partway through flight. They might be single use or they might've pursued reuse early on, either way it looks like these things can be loaded up and sent off again at a fairly rapid clip, no fancy clean-rooms or total refurbishment between flights.
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is ace combat 4 the most aesthetically pleasing of the games?
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>>551549267
Yes, and only because of Breaking Arrows.
A night-time mission in a polar climate with a bright full moon and visible aurorae is downright soulful.
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>>551549267
For me that's gonna between 3, X, and 7.
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>>551549264
Yea it's definitely looking that way with the AC7 model as there's definitely no engines on em. Although Not sure if those notched areas are just there to be anchor points for cranes used to mate it with the shuttle. I could see it with chutes for recovery akin to the SRBs for the Shuttle but with the far smaller scale I could see that they were fully internally insulated as a good amount of thrust was being delivered by mass driver.
The one in AC7 probably was firing at lower outputs as they wanted to get to the Arsenal Birds fast but not going to space.
I suspect they needed the pod in order to have the launch configuration mode on the shuttle be happy without throwing up massive warnings about improper docking of fuel container/cargo pod or to give it enough fuel to use in atmo to get to the Arsenal Bird and having enough fuel remaining to do the docking and transfer and fly back to Tyler Island (or decide to fly to another site with a runway that was big enough to handle a SSTO landing)
Imagine being an ATC who's already half dead after having to organize and get down all these planes screaming about GPS failures and being lost then having to clear the airspace for a fucking space shuttle landing
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>>551504810
>In rescue some Gargoyle Squadron pilots mention that they won't be able to return home if the elevator is destroyed, and the flight lead replies that it's not one of theirs.
It's weird how Osean high command tries to destroy the space elevator in Rescue but then it's never brought up again.

The shady Osea stuff is there during Mage and Spare, but gets dropped with the LRSSG. Then it's brought back in the DLC again.

I think this stuff was part of the planning stages for the game, but when development was going to hell they shifted gears to a more standard story that relies more on callbacks. I feel like the callbacks only really pick up when you join LRSSG, that's when you get Stonehenge, Farbanti and Aces.
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>>551545575
Fucking Thunderhead. Always being a jerk to Chopper and then believing Belkan lies despite being there with us through the entire war? Worst AWACS.
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>>551538875
ANTAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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>>551550808
Not all AWACS can be Sky Eye.
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>>551548435
>antifa, pronouns, Palestinian flag, meme image
Fucking pass on that shit
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>>551553984
its so heckin progressive
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>>551553984
highkirkenuinely dont even care about that, but the game looks like reheated dogshit
continues to amaze me that all the AC knockoffs so closely copy the mechanics but fail to copy the most important aspect, the art direction.
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>>551548435
how can you be "muh antifa" and make a game glorifying the military industrial complex lmfao
these people are nutjobs
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>>551555012
You are a band of quirky mercs sticking it to the distopian Country-Corporations, freeing the slaves and stopping global pollution by disabling global power grids and setting oil fields on fire, or something.
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I tried emulating the ps1 games but the controls are so fucking stiff. Did people really play this shit with the dpad back in the day?
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>>551556045
I cannot understate just how much Dualshock changed pretty much everything.
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>>551543997
Every time Stonehenge shoots, an angel loses its wings
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>>551560587
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck what a good song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvU4QdCZKS0
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Skies of Deception is a christmas slide game
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>>551562054
That's exactly what I said 2 days ago lmao guess I know what to do for next Christmas, Die Hard and play through Skies of Deception
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>>551537160
I played the single player missions right before Infinity shut down. I was having a good old nostalgic time doing my familiar canyon run, right up until "THEY'RE FIRING AT US IN THE CANYON TOO!"
>OH SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT FUCK SHIT AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK SHIT HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING
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>>551352581
If you use the current UK deterrent as an example, a TRIDENT-II missile could hold eight warheads so V2 seems similar based on the design we have. Each of those warheads could contain a payload up to 120 kilotons which is five times more powerful than the nuke dropped on Nagasaki.
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>AC7 Mission 7
You know, maybe Pixy was actually onto something with that V2...
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Oh man, you buddies were right. AC5 has some REALLY shitty gimmick missions.
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>>551564879
mission 7 is fine until you try to S-rank Ace it
then i want to nuke it from orbit
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>>551561203
What would I do without you, Ravine traversal mission
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>>551352581
With the diagram listing the warhead as "W87"
We could make the link to the real life W87 warhead used in the Peacemaker ICBM and those had a yield of 300 kilotons
Probably set for airburst for max destruction of urban areas so limited fallout compared to ground bursts because I don't think AWWNB or the Grey Men were aiming to eliminate hardened structures like command bunkers or ICBM silos but instead aiming to maximize civilian fatalities
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>>551568976
Do it with a Hornet for maximum Top Gun Maverick points
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>>551568976
Did you bring the pizza?
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>>551562054
>An Osean being confused by a summer Christmas when Osea is on the equator and Oured is in the tropics.
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>>551568976
The only battle to be won with Pizza. Can't wait to see your reaction to the next mission Pilot.
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>>551574585
Parallels and meridians mean nothing in Strangereal
All of the cartographers, climatologists and astronomers were forced into a room to try and make sense of what is clearly a Disco Elysium-style world of continents separated by failures in reality.
This is the only proper explanation as to how Usea gets iced-over oceans and aurora borealis as far south as what would be France while Emmeria has Death Valley sitting up at Calgary-tier latitudes.
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>>551574585
Anens get the best Christmases anyhow
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But really that was a cool little ravine, it's always fun trying to speed through these types of missions to be met with a wall to the face.
>>551574151
>>551575131
The forces that captured the base certainly brought some!
>>551570396
Sorry but I'm a bit of a fan of the SU designs so I went through that tree
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>>551574585
Osea's big, you know.
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>>551577134
Now he's definitely ready to enter the Electrosphere
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>>551577491
We're almost there Electrosphere bros... just a few more generations of scientists... we'll get there
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>>551577134
based flanker enjoyer
its the onlyway to fly
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That was a doozy, Wiseman really tried, but unfortunately for him, Mihaly had antagonist powers so I couldn't shoot him down. RIP, it hit Count hard after initially being pissy about being put on a different squad than Trigger.

Fuck what a really beautiful shot. Who knew cutting access to the internet (and sattelite I guess) would be THE chimp out mass extinction event.
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I spent a few hours hooking up my PS2 so I can finally play AC04. I swear if this attention whore shows up again...

What're some good scart to hdmi converters? I have two but they're not all that.
Do you guys just emulate it, fps drops, graphical errors and all?
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>>551568976
trench runs are eternal
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>>551581858
i bought a crt (do NOT do this unless you are also deranged)
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>>551581858
emulate with pcsx2, 0 problems, 60 fps, very nice, 6x upscaling on reso
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>>551582391
My neighbor was throwing out two CRTs last week, I would've taken them off his hands if I had room for them.
I miss those old TVs. I haven't used one in decades.
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Another rerun episode where the roles are reversed!
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>this is your last launch, pick the best plane you can!
>turn 360 and immediately buy some Hawks
Dunking on the Belkans in these things was fun, and it was silly watching Ofnir and Grabacr remnants get melted by the squad's QAAMs.
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>>551584248
I kneel.
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>>551584248
The Kestrel scenes and missions in 5 are my personal peak Ace Kino moments.
https://youtu.be/jE7oWxTrDD4?si=ypeImk98Yb9O55wi
>thees ees missile destroyer Gumrak of the GLORIOUS Youktobanian Navy!
https://youtu.be/vXeLeNIqf5o?si=bXSP1-Jjkww4Y9MM
>take them up! Hurry up with the catapult, just concentrate on launching them.
>All hands not conducting aircraft launch, abandon ship immediately!
Anderson in his gloriously kino jacket and cap, shooting a fucking F-22 or whatever off the deck while the ship sinks around you. I pray for more carrier kino in 8.
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>>551586204
Also kino in 5
Bartlett taking off after rescuing Nikanor
Bartlett passing you head on in the tunnels under Sudentor
I fucking love this game so much bros, I love this series so much. I thought we were dead, I really did before 7. The success of 7 and the upcoming launch of 8 makes me want to cry with joy. I think the only game developer I can trust in the horroscape of current year is our boy Kono.
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>>551586403
The series is more back than ever. The subreddit (I know) has people posting "saw the trailer and want to get into the series, where do I start?" multiple times per day. Never thought I'd see it.
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>>551576009
Strangereal might just have a really fucked up axial tilt.
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>>551587184
It did have a big asteroid slam into it, who knows what kind of messed up climate and seasons that caused.
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>>551587184
And if that's not enough to explain it, just blame Ulysses.
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>>551587095
I'm willing to make an exception for redditsubhumans if they enjoy Ace Combat.
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>>551586403
Agreed with all this, it's why 5 is my personal favorite. There's some dumb points to it but the highs it hits goes a little higher than anything else. Tons of moments of pure vidya kino. They sell it well enough to where the problems don't bother me, it all just hits perfectly.
>He was a model fighter pilot until the end
Nothing else in the series hits me the same way as that line does.
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>>551586204
For me it's watching unknown IFF turn blue as they announce they're friendly towards Razgriz, it's such a feeling of relief after the latte half has you without any allies at all. Then it escalates with more squads joining as they sing The Journey Home, culminating in the reveal of Oka Nieba's LALALA as he announced he'll be providing AWACS support and the sudden pic related reaction when Oka Nieba translates his name. 5 has a lot of cheese but it's fine because of all its heart.

>>551589396
I appreciate Thunderhead recognizing Razgriz 3's dedication, even if I just want to shoot the guy down after the events of 8492nd.
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My controller got stick drift on the right joystick and I am too poor for another one until AC8, I am not gonna make it buddies.
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>>551592240
I understand the pain, buddy.
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Why are controllers so fucking unreliable these days? My old Gamecube controllers are still kicking just fine.
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>>551596176
Bro I was cleaning out my lil tv cabinet while setting up my ps2 and I have so many PS2, 3, 4, and 5 controllers. And I've lost count how many fucking switch joycons I have. I am not getting a switch 2. I am not getting any console any more because everything is just so fucking expensive, unreliable, and disposable.
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>>551596176
another money making scheme by both manufactures and companies to ensure a continuous revenue stream
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>>551588810
remind me, how do we know the environment of the Anfang Coast?
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>>551596834
The Final Overture in Zero, the mission at Anfang where you listen to the peace treaty being signed whilst blowing up the last of the Belkan Armed Forces.
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>>551597089
Ah, thank you. I never realized that that's where that mission took place.
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>>551550475
>as there's definitely no engines on em
Well they must have SOMETHING for a circularization burn, a mass driver isn't gonna insert the shuttle into a proper orbit all on its own.
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>>551596176
true
my xbox elite controller is fantastic except that now i have stickdrift on the left joystick and need a deadzone of like 9%
and that bitch cost a lot of money
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>>551596538
For real fuckin why is it only the newer ones that break? There were some iffy ones but not everything was the N64 controller.
Not pictured, the literally boxes of drifting joycons that don't snap properly to the switch anymore, and the controllers from my childhood.

Is hardware getting shittier or do we just play games more than we did when we were younger?
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>>551601586
It's multiple factors. Some of it is absolutely cost-cutting, some of it is hardware getting smaller and more delicate, and then there's the wireless factor that means everything now has to use ultra-low power components and lower voltages in order to maximize battery life, even if that fucks with performance in the long run (see: double-clicking Logitech mice because they run their switches out of spec).
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>>551601586
get a third-party controller compatible with your system(s) of choice with magnetic sensors,
or get a conversion kit for what you've got
stop bothering with official controllers, they're all crap
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>>551601586
I have a PS1 controller that works great to this day, while the PS4 controller that came with my console started drifting bad within a year and required replacing.
>>551602124
Sticks should be a matured and reliable technology by this point though, I'd get it if the touchpad or sixaxis shit died but the sticks? It stings to throw $60 away when you really shouldn't have to.
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>>551602728
An older PS gen, I forgot if it was 2 or 3, used magnetic sticks, I think. Nowadays all the big ones just use garbage potentiometer-based ones that start drifting in less than a year.
Look for something with Hall effect or TMR sticks. No physical tracks to wear out on those.
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i wonder if ac8 multiplayer will be properly fleshed out
if they can bring infinity quality co-op missions that are at least 10mins long, this can be some great shit
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>>551534973
Certainly more safe than our own, with how a conference between head of states was apparently conducted on the Arkbird itself
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>>551604837
Forgot the pic
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>>551565261
What, why? It's pretty easy to S-rank. Just use LAAMs.
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>>551605984
Had no clue we had an interior look at the Arkbird. This is beautiful.
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>>551604837
Putting not just one but multiple world leaders on a spacecraft reflects huge trust in the technology.
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>>551607869
Yea they made sure there'd be a hell of a view up there.


>>551577724
The generation of scientists for Electrosphere are already born. in 3 years Simon Cohen writes his dissertation about AI development which just kinda upends a ton of AI research

I've seen some sources saying he's already working with Schroeder in AC7 but I'm digging through Aces at War 2019 Edition to try and confirm it.
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>>551605984
Where is this from? Aces at War?
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>>551612647
https://youtu.be/d2ly50zvGs0?t=195
Yoko Martha Inoue worked with Schroeder, she's badly transliterated here as Massa for some reason.
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>>551612647
The wiki says Aces at War page 114 confirms that, but I've noticed the scan we have in the mega is missing pages 114 and 115
I bet the Belkans are behind this
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>>551613620
I got you Buddy. This is the picture in Aces at War, which is probably Yoko and maybe Simon in front of a Raven, Schroeder is standing in the other half of it on the other page.
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>>551612840
>>551613724
Eh, good enough
https://youtu.be/UrEewVt-y9c?t=480s
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>>551614261
Such a shame all the in-universe magazine covers from the PS2 era sites are fucking nanometer sized thumbnails. Original assets are probably long gone by now.
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So did they build a second arkbird? Real funny if it became the arsenal birds in pentagon wars fashion
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>>551614712
no, pretty sure they just let it go since the ISEV became the new top priority for osean space development
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>>551601586
>For real fuckin why is it only the newer ones that break?
Corpos get more money out of you when your controller is a subscription.
It's a solved problem too, Hall Effect sensors have been standard in flight sim sticks for decades. Matter of fact, early PS3 and Dreamcast controllers had Hall Effect sticks too, but the PS3 dropped them to cut costs and the Dreamcast crashed and burned. I highly recommend buying a Hall Effect or TMR controller.
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hoping that 8's campaign is on par with 7's dlc missions in terms of gameplay
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>>551615325
its kinda sounding like 8 is gonna be a mix of 5, 6, and 7 tbhdesu
>upgraded cloud and weather autism
>squadron commands
>large scale multi domain missions
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>>551613823
I love how AC bothers to render the ground level perspective in setting material, like the fact there was a mountain man/homeless commune in the ruined section of Farbanti. Truly makes Strangereal feel like an actual world instead of some thin 2D background.
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>>551613356
I'd also chalk it up to Schroeder not bothering to fully remember the name of one of his interns as both her and Simon would be those at this point. WizKids but not part of the main team he's got
>>551614712
We have two conceptual Arkbirds.
Original Arkbird, only got the blueprints/CG model phase End of Yuke-Osea Cold War which was going to be a fully militarized spaceplane made for ABM work to intercept missiles that the SOLG failed to destroy in their silos.
Arkbird Actually built is a modified version of it with Yuke built pulse lasers on the top and the removed laser system that was originally to be aimed downwards. But the plans turned out to be a "Fitted For but not Fitted With" which meant during the Circum Pacific War they could easily mount the laser system for orbit to surface strikes.
>>551601586
Only had stick issues with my PS4 but it seemed to be a case of me having to pop it open and clean the area within as it managed to get dust in there resulting in a studder-step/jitter response when intending to go 100% in a direction.
For the Switch not properly snapping Nintendo oddly enough cheaped out on that one part of the connector so it might get weak over time (or a strong impact might cause damage) but unless you're an utter ape the joycon should stay connected if only because of of your grip hovering over the shoulder buttons.
With me maybe it was controller wrapping but my N64s had low tilt dead zones but that might also be from N64 games which had the utterly brilliant idea of "Spin the stick in a circle repeatedly" as a core mechanic.
My PS2 controllers may have button rot on the face buttons as the pressure sensitivity on one of them is utterly shot so playing Ace Combat means either basic radar zoom or full out zoom at this point. But the pressure sensitive shit was never a reliable thing for the PS2
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>>551598207
We know it's in part a cargo pod, potentially it's also got fuel storage although the ones at Tyler Island were purely setup for docking with the Arsenal Birds so a 'lean' configuration was likely kept since they were never meant to break orbit just be ultra heavy lift craft to dock with the Arsenal Birds to resupply them.

The launch we see at Basset might have been thrown a lot harder because it was unmanned and the Arkbird may have also dipped it's altitude so a suborbital trajectory was all that was needed to dock and deliver the laser and release the drone shuttle to return to an airfield autonomously.
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So what exactly is the reason they're not remaking the PS2 trilogy? People have been clamoring for years, the thought must have at least crossed their minds at least once, right?
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>>551619556
you either get remakes or you get new games, now im not sure about you but the latter sounds a hell of a lot more attractive than the former.
thats the actual justification btw, they dont want to leave it up to some random outsourced studio, but they also dont have the staff to do remakes alongside new titles.
also something something aircraft licensing.
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I bought Frontline 59 with some Chrimbus money and I have quickly learned the Frogfoot was a bad idea for mission too, crashed into the ocean doing a gun run. I really hate that PW's ship targets require you to destroy all the subsystems first before hitting the main vessel. Also is it just me or are accel/decwl on the thrusters a lot weaker than in AC?
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>>551619556
>>551621945
I don't know if people realize how disappointing a bad remake would be from a 3rd party studio (look at half the remakes that came out in past 10 years)

Also emulation exists and its better then ever
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>>551623714
Honestly the only remake I want is what they did for 5 and the other PS2 games Snoy has made available on PS4/5, basically just a resolution bump with cheevos.
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>>551619556
Electrosphere remake or bust. The ps2 games still play perfectly fine today but the ps1 games feel awful to play
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>>551583228
A shadowy, insidious group that works behind the scenes across nations for war, Belkans must be like cockroaches at this rate! It's time to clip the last bird's wings and blow up that elevator. I feel like I misinterpreted a scene a few missions back because I swear the scientist and the girls were in the liason plane that the princess was in. I thought the cutscene showed the princess being the only survivor, so I'm either stupid and can't connect something that I missed, or they faked me out
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>>551635336
iirc the princess wasn't on that liason plane, she left separately and crashed on Tyler Island.
The girl that mentioned three strikes was one of Mihaly's grandkids who knew Trigger from him
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Bird down! Also insanely comical sequence when the princess jumped down, inadvertently let out a big laugh at that sequence of events
>>551636057
Ahh okay, I must've gotten confused at some point then
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>>551637525
So I guess you're a big fan of lasers. Drones have those things
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>>551619556
>So what exactly is the reason they're not remaking the PS2 trilogy?
One answer is probably the amount of effort and resources needed; PA has never been that big a studio. Bigger reason is probably licensing.

>>551634318
Damn some of those squad names are terrible. And nice work drawing attention to the Halo reference only to notice the grammatical error of '343th'.
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Good old tunnel to finish things off, I really enjoyed them letting us go inside of the elevator and go through it. I found myself thinking back to 3 a lot during this final fight, I really loved the intensity of it, those lasers wrecked me a few times. The atmosphere was similar, and stopping the drones from uploading data, it really felt like a throwback (throwforward?) to Electrosphere, but I suppose that's only expected as we're getting closer and closer to it
>>551640546
I actually only started using them recently towards the tail end of the game, I found myself to rely on them a lot against drones so I kinda stuck with them
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Man, what a great game. And honestly what a great fucking series, it's really nice to see such a generally consistent world being built throughout decades, and while there were some games that, I would say, weren't as in line with the vision or world of the series, they still had some good moments to them.

This entry was beautiful, it had a lot of fun and varied missions, and flying was exceptionally smooth. Seeing the jet models in such high fidelity was really awesome, and being able to play around with the laser weaponry was a blast as well. The DLC's are all I have to really finish up on, but the story itself is done for this game, it was a good one, I got confused at a few points towards the end there, but it's all cleared up now, and it was overall a satisfying ending. I can't wait for the next secret Belkan war plot to unfold!
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>>551643632
>grammatical error
I for one appreciate the representation given to Sicario's burgeoning private military agriculture division through the Sicario Mercenary Crops.
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>>551621945
>they dont want to leave it up to some random outsourced studio
After the GTA fiasco I don't blame them
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>>551644958
COMMAND DUTY OFFICER
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>>551643632
>Damn some of those squad names are terrible.
>its all literal videogame references
never let nerds with disposable income have a hand in creative decisions in an indie kickstarter project.
continue to be amazed at how project aces just has impeccable aesthetic sensibilities and discipline compared to literally all of their fans.
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>>551634318
>11st
>343th
>>551634510
>22th
>32rd
>the entire 50Xst list
Make it stop. Please.
Also
>select the image that is not like the others
>pick the one image that is not, in fact, like the others
>LOL YOU GOT THE CAPTCHA WRONG
No. No, I didn't.
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>>551652339
Ah yes the discipline of selling Idolm@ster skins and emblems instead?
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>>551652964
theres a world of difference between non-canon fighter jet skins that were not in the base game and having the game explicitly have the 343th Guilty Spark John Halo 117 Division flying beside you...
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>>551622504
>Also is it just me or are accel/decwl on the thrusters a lot weaker than in AC?
It's not just you. All the inertia made my F-14 mercrnary run pretty boring because the enemy's abundance of health caused it to frequently devolve into boom and zoom or jousting passes. And it took way too many of those to beat Crimson squad in Kings.
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>>551634318
>>551634510
>>551637272
For a second there I thought they finally released the official artbook. Pretty wild that a 70 page fan artbook got made first, but I suppose Arby's busy doing literally everything of value in his spare time.
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>>551644958
Glad you had fun anon.
The DLC missions are definitely some of the best missions in the series.
And you should really play Project Wingman as well.
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obligatory tower flythrough
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>>551308770
I'll be hosting the shootout in 1 hour. I fucking hate this new captcha
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>>551657524
Wouldn't this blow out all the windows in that tower or would that only happen if the jet was supersonic?
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>>551658190
yeah probably only if it was going faster than mach1, i would think
the windows at airports dont get blown out on takeoff/landing do they
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>>551657740
I'll be available in roughly four hours, will anybuddy be there?
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>>551653161
We could have so much more but they are pussies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuLT6LyYfD0
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>>551657740
Room's up! Rules are in the op
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>>551658863
On the way
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>>551667723
Merely asserting dominance, anon.
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>>551644958
You're in for a treat. The DLC missions are what have me so hyped for 8, the dialogue's ludokino and the Mission 3 boss fight is probably the best in the entire series from a mechanics and gameplay standpoint.
Assuming the DLCs are what the current PA team is capable of when they're not going through devhell and worrying about being cut, then I can't wait to see what they can do across an entire game.
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>>551653161
7's DLC did literally have General Shepherd from MW2 in it. But it was also a very roundabout reference too. Honestly I just find it really funny that Kono likes COD so much, I wonder if he too feels the same pain as I when looking at its current state
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>>551663573
Fantastic games buddies - thanks very much for the fun
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>>551673920
Same here, I managed to pull a miracle HPAA shot off and bagged a guy who wasn't locked onto and just stumbled into the missile.
Almost got all the Stability mods and trying to get the Lasers now before getting MG. Probably should also get Su-47 bombs sooner or later. Wish I had the braincells to realize on Roca I shoulda brought out the A-10 for tunnel funnies
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i had one good moment
fun lobbies thx 4 game
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>replay 5 with JP dialogue
>Chopper has a delinquent-ish/yankee-ish voice
Holy shit this explains so much
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<<Pull up!>>
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>>551645047
It is humorous thinking all the out-of-work mercs have to take up farming in the aftermath to get by.

>>551652339
yeah the nerds tend to have no real self-restraint or eye for quality. People need to look up some real-life squadron callsigns and get a feel for the fine line between cool and cringe.

>>551652558
How did they let that many get through?

>>551683770
His whole upper and hair design gives and Elvis feeling, plus the rocker aesthetic.
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>>551663573
Alright room's now closed, thanks to everyone who joined.
The SU-33 ended up being pretty fun to fly today, but that poor EML-33 got sandbagged by the nuggets on that last match, everyone just shot everything they had as soon as he respawned until he left.
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>>551634318
>Squadrons that are marked in park
Like did you fucks bother to even send this through a proofreading check? This is captionfag tier for low effort work
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>>551687778
>How did they let that many get through?
The general typos are probably because proofreading was only a vague suggestion, but I swear the prevalence of fucking up ordinal numbers makes me think that the person in charge just doesn't know how -st, -nd, -rd or -th work.
The author's apparently (probably?) Japanese too, for what that's worth.
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Shootout Saturday isn't over yet!
Get in and put your /aceg/ tag on, the rules are in the OP.
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>>551683770
Is Blaze called Booby in the JP audio?
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>want to get AC7 on PC
>too lazy to replay and grind up all the unlock
What do.
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>>551692992
but the first playthrough is the most fun
even if it isnt a first playthrough
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>>551691097
Would join in if my internet wasn't trash. Maybe next Saturday if I don't have work.

>>551690554
>A Japanese fan-made artbook of a Western fighter jet game made by fans of a Japanese fighter jet game made by Japanese fans of a western fighter jet movie.
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>>551691097
lmao I got bombed in the tunnel
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gryphus 1 is the most badass and best pilot of all the ace combat protagonists
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>>551687778
>His whole upper and hair design gives and Elvis feeling, plus the rocker aesthetic.
That plus his body language; his animated reaction to the air raid siren, boisterously talking to the nuggest while Nagase has her arms crossed, and putting Grimm in a headlock during the photo. It really sells the whole "good-hearted troublemaker" aspect of his character.

>>551692648
No.
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>>551688849
I chuckled when I targeted him after he shot me down once and saw all the other target indicators.
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>>551696603
>No.
??
very certain ive heard blaze being called "booby" in AC5's jp dub...
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>>551702237
hehe
booby
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>>551702237
>the boobs of Razgriz
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>>551697246
I could see "buraze" sounding like "boobies" in really shitty audio tracks and shitty pronunciation.
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>>551696215
Getting 12C is a bit convoluted, look it up
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>>551706798
hmm
ok
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>I should 100% ace combat 7 before 8 comes out
>forced to do 4+ playthroughs and 100 multiplayer matches
kill me
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>>551709046
But why
Play pokemon if you wanna catch em all, there's better ways to spend the holidays
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>>551713730
ace combats one of the few series that are fun to 100%
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>>551490027
A large amount of the fan base wants these planes back. Some were modded back in so we shall see just how much PA was really paying attention when they noticed that people wanted lots of planes and lots of skins in the game.
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just finished ace combat 7, i may have misinterpreted captain torres plan but is his plan is too hit osea so that erusia and osea will have a common enemy which is the alicorn since they are a terrorist group? also erusia giving the alicorn blueprint means they know about captain torres being a terrorist so i thought of it that way, am i wrong? i googled it and people say torres is just a psycopath
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>>551719428
i think it was more 'if you dont stop fighting i'll nuke every city until there's nothing left to fight over', peace through superior firepower and all that
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>>551719428
I think that he went nuts and was looking a too much at the Continental and Belkan Wars. He thinks the war will end up claiming ten million lives, but if he nukes Oured then the shock of it will make Erusea and Osea stop and call for peace, like what happened when Belka dropped the seven nukes and the allied powers immediately stopped and opened peace negotiations. So he was essentially trying to re-create the Belkan War nuke thing, but with just one nuke, to forcefully stop the war. Hence 'one million lives' to save ten million.

At least I think that's it.
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>>551719428
He spins nuking Oured as "seeing one million lives get taken in one fell swoop will make everyone lay down their weapons and end this war", but his actual motivation is simply to land the most difficult shot he possibly can.
As he says, "Gunnery is about killing the people on board." He wants to kill a million people. Land a clean shot on a difficult target, because that's his definition of true beauty.
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>>551719428
This >>551720230 is how he sold it to his crew but >>551720910 this was his real reason. He's nuts but was still sane enough to know he had to sell the idea to his crew with something plausible. Or find himself getting a 9mm retirement plan from his command duty officer.
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Really strange that these people keep trying to nuke Oured.

It's almost as if... nah, that can't be right.
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>>551713978
Depends on the game and what you include in "100%". Personally I hate grinding for medals that require S ranking missions on lower difficulties. I'd rather have 5 fun playthroughs on Ace and earn zero new medals than grind out S ranks on Easy and Normal.
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>>551727270
yes definitely agree
i just consider Ace dif S rank and all planes/aces as 100%
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>>551659092
>Outfit has the cockpit on the crotch
L-lewd...
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>>551728883
I'd put my cock in her pit
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>>551584248
>>551719297
Doing the obligatory Ace mode second run and brought the Hawks along to destroy Cruik Fortress and to see how they'd fare against the full-strength 8492nd. Turns out trainer planes are just amazing at killing Belkans.
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>>551735759
I just couldn't land a hit on this guy until these last few seconds. Really felt like Nagase and Grimm were as tired of him as I was. Also I didn't realize the mission ends if you kill all of them, I got filtered during my first run and ran away in my F-16.
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>>551735759
mirin' that formation
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>>551709046
What's the HARD part is to grind out the Team Deathmatch matches because no one wants to do them (even thought are fun as hell) as it's frustrating as fuck to get those medals

>>551736380
Really you're "Supposed" to fleeing as usually in campaign you'll be showing up IIRC with same plane status coming out of the previous mission so probably like no ammo left and in an attacker.
But in single mission you just go in there looking to murder some Belkans
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>>551740635
Ammo doesn't transfer from previous missions in Ace Combat. But yeah, if you picked an attacker then that's what you'll be flying in 8492. Not that it's all that difficult to kill them all even if you're in one, as long as it's something reasonable like an F-15E or whatever multirole carries UGBLs.
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>>551740635
>Really you're "Supposed" to fleeing as usually in campaign you'll be showing up IIRC with same plane status coming out of the previous mission so probably like no ammo left and in an attacker.
Maybe Ace difficulty is different since it's a NG+ mode but my plane had its missiles and SPWs restocked going into the mission. I bailed on my first playthrough since I got shot down a couple times and decided I didn't want to deal with a bajillion Berkuts who just seemed to be glued to my butt at all times regardless of how I moved, really didn't feel up to it at the time.
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>>551741737
Tells me how good my memory has been for not playing in a good decade+ but with how the unlock tree was you're not gonna have something like that until NG+ so you're probably using a Tornado or Hog probably. Unless you're grinding out F-15C kill meter in free mission before completing a first time through.
Also like I get that some people don't like the Aircraft Tree in 7 but I'll take that any day over the Kill Meter to Unlock thing that was in 5
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>>551742641
>Tells me how good my memory has been for not playing in a good decade+ but with how the unlock tree was you're not gonna have something like that until NG+ so you're probably using a Tornado or Hog probably
The F-15C unlocks before you sink the hrimfaxi. There's like 7 missions between there and 8492nd. It takes 2 or 3 to fill the kill gauge, especially with the sheer target count of desert lightning / desert arrow.
If you went the alternate route with 4 horsemen then you unlock the Su-27 instead and filling its kill gauge unlocks the S-32(Su-34 Fullback) which is also a great choice for "Fortress".
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>JP Natasya has an ara-ara voice
Bartlett sure is a lucky man.
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>>551750318
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>page 9
It's already over...
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Guess we need to speed things up.
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Wondering how Tasha even got here. Saw some people mention her necklace looks a bit like Yuktobania’s flag.
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>>551764828
Maybe she's a random exchange student who got caught up in the evacuation and she turns out to have prior experience flying with the Yuktobanian air force reserves or something. Like, she did her time and got out to study something at a nice Usean university.
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>every AC social media post is followed by someone begging for PSVR
>not just VR in general but PSVR
I don't know why but seeing all these PSVRfags seethe about the lack of support is rather funny. Only they have to be catered to apparently.
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razgriz is cute but i cant find porn of her?
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>>551771432
do not lewd the androgynous demon shapeshifter
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>>551771432
Forget porn, I can barely find any fanart worth a damn in general. Razgriz is an extremely underrated demon/hero/waifu/thing.
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instead of the demons of razgriz why wasnt the squad the 4 horsemen of razgriz
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<<Rey heads up!>>
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>>551771432
Closest you're gonna get is that one bitch from Elden Ring
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>>551774257
Wonder why they didn't make him do a kulbit for launching the missile. Or would that be a front\rear radar thing?
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>>551774928
kino
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>>551775007
>the AC series is (mostly) about fighting a nationalist stigma, by being another stigma
Only thing i'd disagree is Garuda 1. They did the 04 formula but better with more reasonable flow of the war and airfleet coordination.
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>>551774928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoNqj2yl-Lk
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>>551774741
apparently the Su-57's rearward facing radar allows for forward firing missiles to track targets to the rear
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>>551776962
I know that. I asked since the angle had them fire a missile at really short range and 90 angle.
Wouldn't an axis kulkbit or whats it called be a more certain way to land a hit? Would still be a cool maneuver but i guess they wanted to do a topgun cameo
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Honestly I like Hamilton. He's crazy and his plan's retarded, but he's batshit enough to get into ANOTHER plane right after getting you shot down and immediately follow you into a tunnel run. It helps that you see him mald in only a single mission, during which you can bitchslap his ass and Bartlett also dunks on him, so he doesn't get old like Crimson does in PW.
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>>551768902
Who the fuck would willingly move to Usea in 2029? Everywhere that isn't North Point could randomly become a warzone at any moment.
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>>551785806
Displaced refugee from another war, perhaps? Seems to be a lot of those in Strangereal.
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>>551774257
>Ares is the ancient Greek god of war, representing the violent, brutal, and chaotic aspects of battle, unlike his more strategic Roman counterpart, Mars, who was revered as a protector.
hmm
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>>551786312
>A shadow is a dark area on a surface where light from a light source is blocked by an object. In contrast, shade occupies the three-dimensional volume behind an object with light in front of it.
mmm... yes...
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>aces dogfight in the sky as an expression of ones beliefs and personality
mwmwmw!i
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What did he mean by this
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>>551786585
>A missile is a self-propelled, guided weapon system designed to adjust its trajectory in flight to hit a target, whereas a rocket follows a largely unguided, ballistic path once launched.
hmm,,,
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>Dr. Ignatio Mobius (also known as Dr. R. H. Mobius and Dr. Moebius in publications) was a scientist and leading expert on Tiberium around the First Tiberium War
No wonder Mobius soloed the war, he is a supersoldier experiment jacked up on Tiberium. And the reason he pops up at the end of phase 1 is not a coincidence, USEA had to unleash him or risk fully losing the war.
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>>551787548
They're probably lyrics from 8's theme/credits song, and Rise Above seems to be the game's tagline
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>>551709046
>I should 100%
Why
I will never understand you completionism autists
Why does it fucking matter
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What the hell is a meter... Oh look a good ol' fashioned sub! I missed you Scinfaxi, Hrimfaxi, Dragonet thing
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>>551799238
I bet cars in Strangereal have their speedometers in knots.
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>>551799238
Around 2 years underwater? I'm sorry? Did they park in some Agarthan dome city outpost in the middle of the sea? Were they REALLY good at rationing their food? Sorry it came as a shock so my suspension of disbelief got one shot here for some reason
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>>551799398
Inches per second.
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>>551785806
Space Elevator had a shitload of advanced training and engineering built to train workers with the newest tech around and those schools are still there so going to the FCU to learn or just learn abroad to get out of Yuktobania before returning to work at some industrial firm has an appeal.

FCU probably got better beaches than the Yukes got too.
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>>551800583
>FCU probably got better beaches than the Yukes got too.
I thought it was landlocked.
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>>551800138
They probably had a full load of supplies and were running without a full crew for the shakedown cruises.
So if you got enough food for like maybe twice as many guys for 6 months you could stretch it out with heavy rationing.
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>>551800740
They got the Skully Islands as holdings so just take a flight there Wouldn't be the weirdest island holdings a country got that somehow doesn't have a coastline.
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>>551800786
So he's definitely not all together up in there is he. Which I mean yea, maybe 2 years at sea floor would do that to you? But really what a fun mission, although the uh, boss fight, if you would call it that, unfortunately got a face full of lasers and ceased to exist within 2 seconds of engaging. But flying around between the EW planes and the ship to protect them from a horde of enemies was great
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>got the ac7 bundle with dlc for dirt cheap ages ago
>had to uninstall it for storage reasons
>go to reinstall it cause I might as well finally finish it now that ac8 is announced
>dlc completely gone, like I never even had it
>nowhere to redownload it, it just wants me to pay again
what the fuck man
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>>551800740
They own the Skully Islands and either own Fort Grays or have a military presence there.
Part of me thinks a retcon might be incoming, that a few nations drawn on old official maps as independent but unnamed will be merged into the FCU.
I just hope it isn't "every unnamed country on the continent except Erusea and San Salvacion"
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Damn.
Antarctia looks kinda fucked up.
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>>551735759
>>551736380
>>551780732
>Stretching 4:3 to 16:9 but didn't enable the actual 16:9 mode that all the PS2 games have
Please anon, you are triggering my autism.
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Alright psycho siblings thanks for showing up lmao Fun fight though, but holy moly that interference was rough
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>>551809247
Damn, that sub came, resupplied, and went real fast.
Also had a lot of fun going off and resupplying and spamming bombs on the harbor, those ships were fucking tanky though
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Alright slightly insane submarine captain, it's time to get your sheets blown up
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>>551811814
Forgot the image*
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Oh man, that's fucked. I made sure to change that setting first time I booted the game but I guess it didn't save for whatever reason. Played through the game twice pike that.
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>>551812020
Thar she blows
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>>551814721
Ah well, I wouldn't take the words of the Mental Asylum submarine at heart myself
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>>551815713
Predictable outcome for a fake-out surrender
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>>551817484
Thar she blows (up)
Pretty cool DLC missions, I quite enjoyed them, the ramblings were quite funny, I like the comment on that guy not writing his will, and Torres being ecstatic to send him off to die. The story was pretty cool, I presume it was in-between us joining Strider Squadron and the Farbanti raid going off of the dialogue. With that though, I'm done done, now to look up those other games I got told about, Project Wingman and that one wii one that I actually forgot the name of
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Oh boy Airforce Delta Strike has to be one of the stranger AC clones I've ever played. Planes in fucking space!
>>551771432
It would be funny to see that pop up at some point.
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When Kono was posting about Sotoa back in 2021 or so I honestly figured that would be the next nation we would be playing as. I figured it'd be Sotoa vs Yuktobania.

I wonder if Ukraine forced their hand into scrapping that idea. Yuktobania as invader would be too topical. And as the invaded similarly so. Civil conflict in Yuktobania's neighbor would also be iffy.
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>>551824761
>Yuktobania as invader would be too topical
the game's premise is more or less a riff on the ghost of kyiv
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>>551817875
Sky Crawlers?
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>>551817875
It takes place between the IRBM mission and the nighttime ravine mission if I’ve got my timeline right.
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>>551825171
Which can be entirely removed from Russia/Ukraine.
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>>551824761
I don't think the world is aware that much about AC politics to think Yuktobania invading anyone is such a direct refference.
If anything, i'd be interested in what their take of a conflict like this would be.
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>>551826768
I don't think there's much to be said that previous games already didn't.

The social media stuff might end up a dud, but at least it's different.
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>>551827223
By that logic might as well not make any more games at all.
But yeah, i wish they dive into the media vs reality thing more. Maybe foreign intervention (not "belka starter it", but other parties joining due to allegiances or other politics reasons) and heavyhanding geopolitics.
Also, AC never really did a proper proxywar scenario. 5 being the closest but it was closer to falseflagging rather than korea-vietnam tier (mostly) hands off faction meddling.
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>>551827223
I really hope the social media/propaganda angle is not the only theme of the game.
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>>551828835
Why?
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>>551829893
Nothing wrong with it inherently, I suppose it could work in making things personal with the player and the team. But it just feels too small of a scope in the grand scheme of things, especially with all the wink-wink hints on Electrosphere stuff in the background imo.
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>>551830404
What electrosphere hints did we even get? FCU falling apart?
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>>551828793
ANOTHER
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>>551835057
More proof that not!Africa is in Osea.
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I'm going throught the emulation rabbit hole. Already finished zero. Now I understand why you guys said that narratively it is the best Ace Combat, but it honestly felt it kinda short, haven't unlocked everything yet, so I guess the mercenary and soldier re-runs where always part of the game, and thus it's short missions.

Im now trying to play AC6, and man what a pain in the ass. Any tips on making 6 run at any speed that doesn't feel like flying through water and any way to make the reaction to the controls withing this lifetime? Or is AC6 just like that? It just feels like a whiplash going from crisp (white sheets) HD aircraft at 60+fps in zero with instant reactions, to pixelated targets and slow jets that feel like I'm battling the controls more than the enemies. (Seriously was there such bad imput lag on the original 360 ver?). Like I tried playing with the controller plugged in but it was even worse wtf.
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this game is kinda ass
should i stick with it? im at the mission where you have to destroy a bunch of ships in 6 minutes and got stuck here because im out of missiles early
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>>551835839
the flight controls are ass
gave it a go, did 3 missions, didnt like it
i love the anime storyline and VN style, but damn the flying physics im not a big fan of
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look at this photograph
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>>551840496
damn its count/chopper/yellow13/youngmihaly
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>>551841063
So what's the actual dumbest possibility if it really is a returning character?
>It's Count
>It's Dision
>It's Yellow 13
>It's Pixy (but he dyed his hair blonde)
I've heard all of these so far and they all sound awful.
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>>551841329
It's Slash
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>>551841329
The actual dumbest possibility would be any prior player character, like how people speculated Mihaly could be Phoenix before the updated Aces At War came out.
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>>551835404
It was fine on the 360, emulating it is problem. 6 has the best gameplay in the series and is the only one to really make you feel like you're taking part in huge battles.
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>>551845929
>6 has the best gameplay in the series and is the only one to really make you feel like you're taking part in huge battles.
yes, wish your allies were better though, they barely do anything at all, barely talk, barely fight, barely ever seen, and never attack ground targets on their own either
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>>551847516
I miss how much radio chatter 04 had, even if my allies didn't do anything you still heard them panic, yell, tell you about a missile or call shots, really helped build an atmosphere of actual combat even with a lackluster AI. I also wish AWACS still told you about stuff near you or your bearing.
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>>551841329
Dision would be the best possibility, since it all but confirms that project aces is going to go into the electrosphere eventually

i dont see it being any returning character, they just like this archetype for side characters
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now hold on...
if simon was born in 2000, he would have been 4 years old in 2004...
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>>551850495
i know this is retarded... but maybe....?
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>>551850673
I would say the Yellow 13 child is probably in his teens or a little younger. 4 years old is a bit young to be riding on his bike alone to school IMO.
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>>551850673
>Noise is actually the storyteller boy grown up
>The guitar was 13's
Fuck that would be awful but great at the same time.
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>>551851390
i like it
this is now my headcanon until project aces proves otherwise
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>>551840496
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>>551841329
I remember people saying he looked like Tabloid when the trailer dropped
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>>551852986
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>>551852986
>>551854093
I was about to say. The fact Tabloid is basically a pancake.. yeaaaah.
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>>551854385
belkan de-pancaking technology
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Stonehenge Defensive can really be kind of a ballache on Ace.
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>>551845929
Damn what a shame, I had to lock the emulator at 60(real game 30) fps for it to finally become smoother, guess 30fps truly was enough heh. You are right about 6 being the best game play wise, I see so many things that I would've loved in 7. The grand battles, a wingman which I will say is competent (I ran out of missiles on mission 7 and had him shoot down the last drone, earned my respect), the long lasting contrails of missiles and planes that I've only seen replicated in PW, an absurd amount of weaponry to go along the bigger missions, and hell you can look down your cockpit and see your legs, I was expecting that in 7 and got disapointed, the cockpits in 6 look nice!
>>551847516
I don't feel it that way. Allies do talk, but they seem to do so like reading a script, like they are supposed to say those lines. In 4 it felt more random.
>>551848475
><<Passing over Krasinsky crater>>
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>>551855618
Also fixed the controller delayed imput by using an old PS3 controller connected via cable. Guess the machine spririt prefers tech from the same era.
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>>551855618
when i say your allies dont talk i mean your air allies, the guys on the ground chat like its going out of style
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>>551829893
its lame and i dont think it fits a silent blank slate ac protag well
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>>551860016
Actually the social media manager dork on the carrier running your account sounds like the perfect set up for a dude that doesn't actually say anything ever. Like the guy who runs William Shatner's Twitter or every Democrat politician ever.
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>playing zero for the first time
>look up when the F-15 unlocks since it's fun playing with the canon planes
>stick with the starter F-5 through Excalibur, saves money and I grew to like them after 5
>have just enough credits to buy the F-15 and all its SPWs
>immediately get sent back out to the Round Table
>Eagle obviously feels far better than the Tiger
>the legend of Ustio's Demon Lord is starting to take flight
>enemies and allies alike are fluffing you up the entire mission
>spanish fucking guitar comes in as soon as the enemy ace squad shows up
God, that was the perfect combination of powerup and ego boost.
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>>551858927
On that note, is the mission briefing guy in 6..."special"? He sounds like a slowpoke. Compared to the more energetic guys from 4, and Zero. 5 and 7 need not apply since they bacame actual characters midgame.
Like it wouldn't surprise me if Emmerians actually got a mentally challenged guy to brief their missions, considering they seem like the "Bestest of boys" of the Strangereal universe. Like a mix or Norwegian and Canadian stereotypes.
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>>551861573
he sounds normal to me, maybe a little slower speaking but better annunciation
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>>551607482
i was confused, its not mission 7 i meant its mission 9
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ac4 canon plane is f22
ac5 f14s
aczero f15
what about the other canon planes?
i kinda wanna say f22 for ac7 but im not sure, what about for 2? for X?
hmmm, what do you guys think?
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>>551829893
i dont think its grandiose enough
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>>551865659
>i kinda wanna say f22 for ac7 but im not sure
f-16
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>>551794861
its content
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>>551865659
7 is tricky because you start in an F-16, the main art is an F-22, but the LRSSG is an F-15 squadron and that's who you spend half of the game with.
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>>551865659
7 is F-22
X is probably the same progress as your squadmate (F-4/F-16/Su-27/F-22)
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>>551861573
The guy sounds like an aviation documentary narrator.
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>>551850673
I still can't get over how that kid clearly has a broken neck.
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>>551865659
AC2 depends on whether you're Flankercatholic or Raptorthodox. In the original AC2 Phoenix flies an Su-35, in AHL he flies an F-22. He also flies the XFA-27 in both games.
AC6 is the F-15E.
AC7 is F-16 in Mage and most likely Spare, F-15C in Strider until Lighthouse when Avril finds a deus ex Raptor on the carrier.
There's also an argument to be made about whether the starter planes are canonically flown by the protagonists. The F-4E tends to get Mobius 1 skins which would arguably make it canonically flown by Mobius 1, and the Draken got a one-off Cipher skin in Infinity, which is a curiosity to be considered.
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>>551865659
it's whatever plane is on the cover art, you overthinking autismlords
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>>551878438
Exactly.
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>>551878438
I think you're a nigger tourist and should get out of my general
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>>551878884
ok
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Ashamed to admit i only just realized Kobayashi made a whole ace combat ost for a dcs campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdVgdVLQbso
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>>551885645
Did he work on the one in War Thunder as well?
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>>551885898
No and I'm not really sure how'd you come to that conclusion as War Thunder's stuff doesn't really sound like Ace Combat at all, it you ask me it's a lot more Battlefield 3/4/ArmA 3 than it is Ace Combat.
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>>551892547
There was a time the music in War Thunder was all WW2 style orchestra, marches, fanfares and all that, and the theme song was Beethoven. At some point they decided to ditch that and turn it into youtuber-friendly techno nu metal or some shit.
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>>551893721
War Thunder's orchestral tracks and Ace Combat orchestral tracks are nothing alike either.
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>>551861573
He definitely makes some odd word choices. It's probably the shitty localization though.
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>>551293773
No
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How many Jan Cope's do you think there will have been by the time we get the helmet?
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>>551757867
>>551750318
The Tornado is one of my favorite planes, I really missed it in 7. Definitely hoping it comes back for 8… maybe even with both the fighter and attacker variants like in 5.
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>>551851390
>noise betrays you midway through the game just so he can understand how yellow 13 felt about mobius
Ludo...
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>>551912106
We'd have to be indiscrimintely bombing Sotoa/ERUSE/his home contry for that to make sense though.
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I can't believe Ubisoft stopped making HAWX
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>>551926040
They kinda made a mess out of 2.
A shame really, all it needed was some camera improvements in off-mode. Had a lot of fun in PvP in 1. The option to play arcade or realistic dmg/ammo was cool for a twist.
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>beating Zero on Hard only unlocks Expert
>need to beat it on Expert to unlock Ace
Well that's different, 4 and 5 had Ace available after beating Hard. Guess I'll do True Knight on the Expert playthrough.
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Big fan of the experimental designs getting the unpainted testbed skins
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EA-18G, surely EA-18G.
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>>551931502
it works since you basically need to do three playthroughs anyway
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For me, it's the F-18
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>let's take a bunch of convicted criminals and give them jet planes
you'd think at least one or two of them would think about just fucking off to freedom in their jets
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Growler...
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>>551948861
Where would you even go? Keep in mind that you likely don't have a parachute so your options for safely getting out of the plane are very limited.
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>>551948861
they probably give them just enough fuel to fly around the base for 20 minutes.
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>>551948861
planes are probably geofenced with a bomb and/or master shut-off, like the weapon systems were
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>>551949235
Oured, obviously.
All the war criminals hide out there.
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>>551949316
brother some of the missions take place hundreds of miles away from prison fake airbase
I'd probably take my chances deserting into enemy territory if I'm already a horrible criminal in my homeland
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>>551950156
Honestly, deserting to Erusea might be harder than it looks if you can't even tell what parts of Erusean-controlled airspace are and aren't under the automated drone interception net.
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>>551948861
I'm sure they had a picket force standing by to take down any runners. Either that or the 444th was such a clusterfuck that they didn't, so Bandog just used the threat of it to keep them in line.
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>>551950156
Maybe they disabled the ejection mechanism?
Yeah the whole criminals get armed fighter jets thing is kinda reaching into my "cant fanon out of it" territory.
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>>551949889
How far was the 444th to Oured? I don't think they can make it without any landing or midair refueling
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>>551948861
Well Bandog does have a line ordering Spare to shoot down Spare 15 if the player strays too far. And Full Band initially thought the drone Hornets were barrier troops. They probably had multiple methods of execution.
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>>551950627
Pretty fucking far, they'd have to fly through Erusean occupied air space and acrosd an entite ocean to get to Oured Bay
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>>551949889
Yeah, like the Osean General Staff.
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I fucking hate pipeline destruction so fucking much
Really hope they ditch the stupid gimmick mission design in 8
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>>551951478
The sandstorm sucks so bad, God forbid you wanna bring an A-10 to one of the few missions in 7 that are mostly A2G. Especially if you wanna S-Rank it because you need to shoot down a few of the drones to get enough points. Actually you know what that's something 8 has more of, Attackers and missions that are well suited for them.
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>>551951478
It would be less painful if the time limit was more generous (5 minutes to find a bunch of trucks in a sandstorm is a bit too short)
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>>551951773
I should say I hope 8 has more. No emergency A2A intercepts, no weird gimmicks that aren't suited for slow lumbering planes, just a straight up shooting gallery like Long Day or Fleet Destruction.
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>>551952065
I think inclement weather in 8 should ideally actually make highly stable ground attack planes like the A-10 more desirable, since they'd be able to take the punishment better.
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>>551952360
That could work pretty well and actually give stability a use as a stat for the first time ever. Seriously has that stat ever mattered?
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>>551951773
7 is really annoying in having most missions be 50/50 air and ground, there's only 4 missions which are only A2A (5 if you ignore the repeaters at the end in the elevator). And every mission which should be mostly A2G, ie Long Day, Pipeline, Faceless Soldier, Bunker Buster etc, has a mission update that is A2A at the end.
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>>551952506
Far as I can tell, all it stands for is that you can make minute adjustments with yaw and pitch better without overshooting. Which in the grand scheme of prior ACs is nice but nowhere near as beneficial as SPEED and SPEED and MORE SPEED.

Which probably ties into mission design and not relying on very short time limits to induce a sense of pressure.
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>>551952506
i think it matters in stall recovery and low altitude flying
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>>551952736
Long Day's drones aren't too big a deal since the map is so big you can straight up avoid them, I meant more like the Bunker Buster kind where it's a required objective.
>>551952813
>>551953093
Huh. I'll have to pay more attention to it next time I play.
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>>551953392
I think it would be ideal if mission updates changed depending on what category of plane you fly. Fly a fighter or multirole, then mid mission update makes you deal with an enemy fighter squadron or drone swarm ingressing. Fly an attacker, then its a convoy doing a supply run, or something to that effect.
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>>551953676
That could be a fun idea and give score attack missions a little more replayability. Stonehenge Defensive has the mission update where you choose to either bomb the rocket artillery or intercept the helicopter force. That but semi-random would be neat.
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>>551953676
Dynamic mission updates that reflect the particular aircraft and loadout you bring would definitely enhance replayability.
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>>551954575
Yeah that would be an even simpler method, simply spawn both air and ground targets in, but let you choose which one to attack.
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>>551954783
It'd be a good way to make your allies more useful too. Especially with squad commands coming back.
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I’m hoping that with the return of wingman commands, our allied kills will get added to our score again.
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>>551954914
And especially if they bring back letting you choose what planes your wingmen fly. Take an A-10, get your buddies to fly Hornets, tell them to take on the enemy air support while you go ground pounding.
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>>551954978
Or at least give us partial credit for them if they don't want to give you full points.
>>551955135
That's a good idea too.
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Bit of a weird ask /aceg/, I'm looking for any compilations of the voice lines in AC7 for the Unnamed Spare squadron members. There's like a video on every character in 7 with all their voice lines collated but no one's made one for any of the generic background chatter.
If anyone has a link to a video or to download an mp4 or something, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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>>551954978
I just hope the allies can actually kill stuff this time Nothing like watching friendly missiles splash against drones for no damage.
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>>551968083
>>551970398
literally just need to un nerf their missiles, they have no problem actually getting behind an enemy in 7, but you can watch them just unload missile after missile into an enemy plane and doing fuck all
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>>551851194
>the Yellow 13 child is probably in his teens or a little younger
it's been like 25 years, he's like 35
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hope we get the good ol' Phantom II in AC8
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>>551970665
>red hair
>red eyes
>"mahou"
is that my puellawife kyoko
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>>551981485
Ideally we should get an F-4J or F-4S since we're carrier-based in this game
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>>551981897
it'll be another preorder bonus for the paypiggies (me)
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Went back to play Anchorhead Raid and its got so much detail with the radio chatter, and the enemy really puts up a fight. Really looking forward to 8 if that manages to be the baseline.
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>>551981897
I just want F-4G to return, it's fun to see machineguns coming out of gunpods rather than somewhere in the body
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>>551983089
better than it not being in the game at all
>>551983662
SP 2 is the most AC6 that 7 gets and I mean that in the best way possible, I really hope that 8 goes back to that level of scale and dynamism in missions now that the "growing pains" they had with 7 are over
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I hope 8 has detailed enemy aces. You can really feel the passion put into the game even from simple blurbs like this, and I honestly care more about learning their backstories than wearing their paintjobs.
>motherfucker blows up Osean Excalibur in a Growler (presumably)
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>>551987097
the enemy ace skins should feature their squadron emblem and aircraft tailcodes too thougheverbeit, all the unlockable skins in 7 feel super naked, and the pitiful emblem system just doesnt cut it.
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>>551987659
I hate thougheverbeit posters
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>>551981897
I find it odd that for some reason the Phantom in these games is represented by a fictional navalized F-4E.
>>551984089
I wouldn't the F-4X being back.
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Kono... please... I beg you...
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>>551997470
For me it's the Cariburn
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>>551987097
<<Don't hate me cause I'm jamming you, osean, maybe if you got rid of that yee-yee ass F-5 you'd get some kills in yo record. Oh better yet, maybe Eagle Eye will BRAA your dog ass if he ever stop tasking that allied squadron or wing he coordinatin with.>>
<<OSEANNNNN>>
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>Trickshotting a flying fortress with a bunker buster
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So sad i liked him a lot
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>>552013597
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>>551878742
fun fact: as a kid i thought i bought 2 different games, because in italy i have the same AC5 for PS2, but one has the F-14 and the other one has an Eurofighter in it
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>>551997470
I don't see how they can't not be in the game by this point they are 10 year old plenes everyone should have some in service by this point.
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>>552015050
the fuck is the story behind them removing the 5 from the title?
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>>552016124
All the PS2 games were numberless in the EU, for some reason
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>>551780732
You just hit him in a noncritical area. His plane doesn't crash you can still find it flying around on the map with X over it
I far prefer my headcannon idea for it

>Plane crashes
>Hamiltion jumps out of it moments before impact and rolls to a safe landing on the highway
>He looks up and yells RAZGRIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Veins ready to burst all over his face
>Hamilton is running fast enough to trigger the local speed cams on his run to a Grunder Hanger
>Arrives at the hanger still blood red with anger
>Your plane give it to me NOW!!!!
>Punches out pilot anyway and steals another Mig-1.44
>Follows you into the tunnel
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>>552018190
You could power both arsenal birds for a thousand years with the pure hatred and anger that Hamilton is seething in.
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>>551983662
Remember this girl right here calls out what SPW you bring.
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>>552015067
Those belkan diaspora in Aurelia are hiding them from the rest of the world
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>>552019531
enemy squadrons get their own unique squadron callsigns, Longcaster tells you when you've taken out all of a specific type of aircraft and the Aegis SHORAD facilities, each ship gets its own name called out over radio, Longcaster tells you the bearing of incoming enemy aircraft, its really detailed.
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>>552026651
Count has different dialogue if you destroy something right at the beginning of the mission, and the response to Longcaster's "never mind your manners" line changes depending on if you attacked the north or south part of the harbour first.
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>>552026651
I hope that kind of detail is found in every single mission in 8
I also expect
Tasha
>Oh nice kill on that Flanker Rex thats one going on Strangetwitter
>You roasted those Fullbacks thats another one for Strangetwitter
>Your UGB missed that parked IL-76 yeah thats going on the blooper reel.
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>>552031253
> <<I think that was a house...>>
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I might be retarded, but i just realized that Tyler island in M17 of AC7 is the same of AC5 lmao
My dumbass thought it was "just another one" until now
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>>552032267
You don't go to Tyler Island in AC5 though. That mass driver is somewhere else entirely, the one on Tyler really is just another one.
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>>552031253
After you already made a name for yourself and style on another enemy ace
Tasha
<<Predictable>>
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>>552032267
It is just another one you never go to Usea in 5
But for things that do appear in 2 & 7....
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>>552034819
One thing I noticed while playing through AHL is that 7 managed to stay fairly faithful to those locations shown in AHL.
Anchorhead in particular is the one that made me realize it.
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>>552036724
Yeah not much changes beyond the hardware allows you to flesh out the locations and make them larger. Like Stonehenge its size in 7 is ~2.5-3x larger than it was in 4
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>install Ostrich's HD HUD textures
>5 and Zero look worse now
Weird, maybe it's because I'm trying to play 20 year old PS2 games on a 4K tv. 4 does look better at least.
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>>552047632
That's strange.
Do you happen to have manual hardware renderer fixes enabled on 5 and Zero or something?
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>>552047632
>maybe it's because I'm trying to play 20 year old PS2 games on a 4K tv
I swapped my PS2 over to my CRT when I noticed how blurry everything looked, on an older screen its much crisper.
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>>552048596
No, my PCSX2 is pretty much all the default settings v2.4.0 (latest stable one, from June this year) comes with. The only changes I've made are non-graphical, only change being switching L1/R1 with L2/R2 (started with 7, and the muscle memory's too ingrained).

>>552048962
CRTs are wonderful.
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>>551931502
Can’t speak for 5 from memory, 4 definitely requires you to beat Expert to unlock Ace. I think they all do.
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>>551987659
>the enemy ace skins should feature their squadron emblem and aircraft tailcodes
Disagree, except maybe as an MP toggle feature, or an additional alternate version. Your plane in single-player should always feature your own tail code and squadron emblem. AC5 and Zero did this best.
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>>552052684
billion dollar idea:
one skin, multiple variations to switch between.
i.e. you pick skin #3, ace skin - you can switch between blank, player character or enemy markings.
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>>552053229
Yeah, this is my fucking dream feature. Please, Kono, if you’re lurking I am begging you to add this functionality.
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<<I can make your kill count to be whatever.>>
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>>552050034
The HD textures require you to check some boxes in the graphics settings for the individual games, did you do those?
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>>552058631
Are there? The only steps on Ostrich's site is to place the files in the textures folder and to check the setting to load testures in PCSX2, there's no further instructions even jn the download.

It's not that big a deal to me if the HDD textures don't want to play nice on my system, especially since the emulator doesn't want to take screenshots while using them. The default is still perfectly readable for me.
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>>552050034
When you d/l the HUD you saw the part where he tells you what you have to check to make it work right? go check those boxes under texture replacement or it won't work

>latest stable
Most everyone here uses the nightly I have yet to have any issues with it and it makes AC games look even better as some of the adjustments haven't been added to the stable yet.

>CRTs are wonderful.
If your older nonHD consoles still work its the only way to play them
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>>552060157
>especially since the emulator doesn't want to take screenshots while using them
You need to pick a key for that yourself its not on by default.
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>>552031253
>I also expect
>Tasha
>>Oh nice kill on that Flanker Rex thats one going on Strangetwitter
>>You roasted those Fullbacks thats another one for Strangetwitter
>>Your UGB missed that parked IL-76 yeah thats going on the blooper reel.
seriously hope not
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Preparing the new thread!
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>>552053229
Genuinely what I’ve always wanted.
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>>552060265
Buddy, there's literally a single box Ostrich tells you to check and that's the "Load Textures" option. Everything else is already like that by default

>>552060265
>Most everyone here uses the nightly I have yet to have any issues with it and it makes AC games look even better as some of the adjustments haven't been added to the stable yet.
I figured it's been like half a decade since I last used PCSX2 so I thought the stable version would finally be fine. And it is besides this texture thing, which by no means is a dealbreaker for me; current stable runs the trilogy without needing to fiddle with settings and it's from June, a far cry from the times when stable would be years behind the nightlies.
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>>552061546
If you got both boxes checked. Then I guess it comes down to your playing in default SD instead of HD upscale and it ain't going to work in SD apparently.
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>>552034819
What's fun from 7 is when the computer's cursor briefly hover over Megalith as if they almost decided to evacuate to an abandoned ICBM launch facility
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>>552053229
Nice but we can do better
Pick a blank skin put what you want hit save. You have up to 30 sub slots per plane under the blank skin for custom emblem and marking setups.
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>>552062438
Its not a bad choice when everything has gone to shit. It has a hidden runway its a huge armored fortress island far enough away to not draw attention from anyone. Fresh fish to eat all the time it wasn't a horrible choice given the state of USEA at that point.
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>>552063436
I agree on that, but wasn't the damage extensive enough from all the exploding missiles from 20 years past?
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>>552062438
What's funnier is that the dialogue suggests it was Count's idea, for 'self defense'.
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<</aceg/, you are cleared for takeoff.>>
>>552064070
>>552064070
>>552064070
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>>552060832
Turns out it's actually set to F8 by default but it's still user error on my part. I guess it doesn't like saving screenshots while the emulation is paused, I just thought it was due to textures earlier because I could get it to take shots with the textures unloaded but not with them.

>>552062423
Could be. I'm not going to mess around too much with it, though, I'll just stick to default.
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>>552063631
Honestly we don't know sure the main ICBM launch area is cooked but the rest of it seemed fine. It was a huge base after all, should have more than enough in good enough condition to work with.



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