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The Night Before Christmas - Edition

Previous thread: >>551179320

>Official site:
warthunder.com/

>Fan created content:
live.warthunder.com/

>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:
wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old, better wiki:
old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page

>Old forums archive:
pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ

>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00
old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020

>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weghk_2DpfA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ6JzPWEFU
youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ
youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc

>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmGiyODPuM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJJ94NwH_g
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAN_Mo2d74
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKcAdLoWDk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfNbDZw5J8

>Guided weapons statistics:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78

>What tanks have thermals and their generations:
thunderview.net/thermals/

>Someone sending you runes?:
translate.yandex.com/ocr

>Player, game mode, and vehicle stats:
https://statshark.net/

Reminder: Merry Christmas, you filthy animals

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PpTNV0TrQc
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bad game
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when
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Sad news. Santa has offered his services to the Chinese government due to China having an almost total monopoly on global trade. "It's a business decision" Santa says.
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NUMBER THREE, ANYTHING?
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>yfw there is now a non-zero chance for the BMPT to get its APFSDS
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>>551309973
I AM NOT A NUMBER
I AM A FREE MAN
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Thoughts on Infantry after 5 ish matches
>can tell they put a lot of soul and effort into this
>every building you can enter
>sound feels great and you feel like youre in a real battle in the mid game with vehicles and arty going off near you
>destructibility is decent but mainly focused around armor
>weapons feel good for the most part. weapons/units have mass so you can't flick shot people with your M240 or tanks in your rpg
>TTK feels just about right with CQB battles being deadly and almost instakill, long range battles taking a lot longer
>orbital heli's are OP just like in real life. hard to see when shooting AGM's from 5km in the air.
>performance leaves a little to be desired, i'm running it fine on a 3090ti but i know the poors will suffer. graphics look great
>squad system is just 'okay' as it is now for a beta, but should be reworked into something more substantive than extra lives or removed all together

It's definitely somewhere between RS2/RO2 and Squad in feel. Which for me is a sweet spot since I don't want to play ARMA/Squad and larp but I hate the nu-CoD/BF6 arcade slide fest.
Overall I'm hopeful, can definitely tell they put their A-team on the development of this mode, especially the map design. I'm sure theyll jew the fuck out of the playerbase with the grind though
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>>551310521
WHERE IS THE FREE MAN
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if AI squad is somewhat smart
like to actually take nearby cover when idle and actually covering fire as real threat to other then it would be neat
instead of just literal dummy standing around waiting to be shot
something like SWAT AI
where if you tell it to clear the room it would throw in grenade and try to clear the room for you
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>>551307217
How many games were played having that BR as the max.
So USSR 10.3 got 1,4 mil full downtiers and 10.7 587 thousand full downtiers
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uncslop
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>>551310630
It's vastly superior to Enlisted, that's for sure.
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>>551310971
They probably copied the Enlisted AI over and tweaked, not perfect but not smart either.
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>>551310630
>>551311295
Enlisted has more realistic tanks tho (less realistic human damage model tho). You have tank viewports that you see through, you pop the commander out to look around, you dont get a 360 degree free view without any risk or downside (of limited fov when using a coupola)
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>>551311279
unco
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>>551311295
I've never played enlisted
>>551311449
I feel that would be an absolute nightmare for modern battles though. Especially given the current map being an urban environment. I wouldn't mind them forcing the commanders sight though. But as it is the sim battles camera view isn't bad at all and definitely helps balance the armor
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>>551311575
Enlisted vehicle combat was fun, the combination of stomping on your enemies and the dread that those soldiers running around your tank are actually not friendlies oh god is that a satchel BACK UP BACK UP REVERSE
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>>551310630
>>every building you can enter
Really glad to hear this, it's honestly the thing I was fearing would be lacking the most. Knowing Gaijin, I could easily imagine them cheaping out on the maps and taking shortcuts like that that would make infantry unplayable in areas of the maps that weren't graced with enterable buildings.
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Pray the snail
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you guys getting anything from the sale?
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BF2 Vibes
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>>551312319
that looks neat, will we have an all together vehicles and infantry mode?
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>>551312441
Does he know?
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>>551312225
the fuck is ratrack
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>>551310630
>>performance leaves a little to be desired
Can you please jump into the tank test drive and then the plane test drive in the cockpit view specifically and tell about how much FPS you're getting compared to infantry? With ray tracing on at 4k and 75% DLSS resolution (overridden in the Nvidia App from the default max of 67%), the thing that tanks my performance the most are the cockpits; if infantry runs as good or better than them, I know my 3080 12 GB is in the clear.
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>>551312319
this potato pc tranny gets in and i, cbt tester with 10000000000 hrs in ensharted don't
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>>551311449
It was never the level of proper tanks with interiors, just shitty viewports. Arguably could be implemented into WarThunder relatively easily (or even is - we have had driver cam for years now), aside from commanders popping out of the hatch. That being said I don't think it really matters that much. If the maps all remain closed, urban locations (and it's very likely they will), tanks will be very vulnerable anyway, so I don't see a problem in a bit of enchanced situational awarness.
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its a potato pc world
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>>551312659
a snowcat
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>>551312306
I just bought the Wyvern S.4
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>muttbrams
dogshit
>chinkbrams
piles of fun
why is this?
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>>551312441
Infantry mode will be separated from ground battles but yes, vehicles will be always present in infantry battles. Tanks and choppers 100% sure.
The vehicles being only FPV is surprisingly balancing in game. The urban environment is full of clutter and cover, infantry could be anywhere and oneshot your tank, but at the same time, it's exhilarating lighting up a squad of 6 people with 2x .50cal and 1x .30cal.

Also something that happened in game that yelled SOVL:
There was a sniper inside a bus in the middle on the street. I just rolled over with the tank and flattened the whole bus (i didn't think it was destructable since a guy was hiding in it) like a fucking pancake and got the kill.

Didn't expect this much effort and SOVL into this mode, and from interested i'm now excited about it.
The only gripe is the lack of gore, but we have PG-13 and i understand. Also the death animations are very good and the ragdolls are "stiff", not just a sack of bones.
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>>551312721
they purposely barred all enlistoids from the CBT to stop them from farming all the bots
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>test drive BMD-4M expecting it to go on sale
>end up having a dream about playing it while single handedly holding down a capture point
>eventually building sized giant Jim Carrey in a kevlar vest shows up and shrugs off all attacks
>wake up to find BMD-4M on sale
I pretty much have to get it now. Is it worth dragging up to the 10.3 golden lineup (minus the BMPT-72 now)?
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>>551312721
sit down
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>>551313019
enlistroons are the ones being mogged by the botgods doe
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>>551313005
I had some close quarters split second fights and I really like that enemies react visually to getting hit. It's something I'd expect from Battlefield, not WarThunder.
Shame it's all ruined by packs of bots standing out in the open.
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wait, did they change the river in eastern europe to be shallow like a canal?
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>>551312659
boat decorator
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>>551313542
So you can't leverage amphibious vehicles for some cheeky funplay.
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>>551313542
i think its always been shallow, somebody demostrated it on with april fools walker
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>>551313019
I got 200 hours in enlisted and i got in, its obvious they favor those who enjoyed the gameplay loop
Also they put people with bad PC's in to test performance
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>>551313869
I don't have a bad PC tho. I have 70-90fps in the infantry event (usually 120-130 in the normal game) but i also have the game with DSR too, so i could totally gain at least 50 fps by switching it off. Dunno why the guy is saying "potato pc"
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is the infantry event online?
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any of you opening goyim box?
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>>551314225
No, for I am part of the Master Race.
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best BR to hunt for strike planes? just hunt for fireflies and wyverns?
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>>551314225
could be worse
do I open 2 more for meme sticker?
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>Never used American aircrafts in high BR
>Buy the discounted F/A-18c
>The Missiles are all dogshit
Well fuck i guess I'm stuck with this piece of junk now
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Play the M103
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>>551314527
end up doing it anyway cause I already planned to open 3 as I have gambling addiction
got 120k SL twice
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>>551314556
>be bad
>cry and shitpost
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>>551314556
>did not confer with /wtg/ before making such a retarded purchase
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Battlefield unironically getting mogged by war thunder
This is a strange timeline
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>>551314776
So I'm guessing this aim-7p missile does not track on its own i gotta keep a lock on the enemy planes, so far my only way to get kills is the gun and the aim-9l's
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They only add garbage like this to pad the lootboxes with shit no one wants.
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>>551312691
Definitely a lot less in infantry mode. I get about 140ish in air and 110ish in GRB. In infantry I get about 80-90 as a human/tank and about 90 in the heli spawn. The maps in infantry are a LOT more detailed than the base game.
I play in 3440x 1440 with most of the settings turned pretty high up so if you really want performance you can probably squeeze it out
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28 million SL straight to the trash
not even a single interesting deco
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>>551315273
bro...
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>>551315273
It's time to bring back out the IRIAF. Might even grind the NIG25 air event too
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>>551315273
Average top tier pack buyer, everybody.
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Femboys are China's strongest soldiers
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>>551315859
top tier my ass, these are the kind of missiles i was getting in the russian tech tree at like 10.3 or smt
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>>551315273
Hemnlo newfriend. I want to help you but the informations you need is A LOT.
I highly suggest you to watch Tim's Variety guides on RADAR and MISSLES.
It will teach you all you need to know. They are in OP as well
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>>551316240
Average russian player lmao. Explains how absolute nigger mobiles like the mig23 or the t80 have a 40% winrate
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>>551315438
So only slightly worse than Ground, should be fine then, it doesn't tax my GPU nearly as much as cockpits do so infantry seems to be at least on the performance level of cockpits if not a bit better. Thanks for the feedback anon, I wish the infantry was at least available for test drives and/or user missions, if nothing else just so anyone could gauge performance first-hand.
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>>551316375
>mig23
>niggermobile
Maybe before the nerfs. Now it's literally a B-66 with 2xR24 that """carry""" it
>t-80
>niggermobile
yeah nothing to say about that
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I need 60GJN
What should i sell that in your opinion is not going up *that* much \ is not going up anymore?
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>T58 not on sale
Niggers
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>5k eagles but the sale already ended
bros...
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>>551316890
based goycoin collector
you can pretty much get a lifetime of premium time free and pick any premium vehicle you want
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>>551316375
The real nigger mobiles are the abrahms and the type 90
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>>551317534
Yeah, i already have a lifetime of premium because i've been doing this since 2020, but i always get cold feet when i have to pull the trigger on some of my coupons because "what if they spike up by 5000%"
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WHERE THE FUCK ARE ALL THE STRIKE PLANE NIGGERS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>551314607
Actually, I am. It's not bad. Could it be better though? Yes.
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Proud owner.
We shit on WT all the time but there are no others F2P games that let you buy all your shit for literally free because you grind it.
75€ "worth" of pixels all bought with other pixels
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I played one infantry match and I don't care about it anymore.
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>>551317361
Yeah, I like how they put the packs on sale after, so you can't use the GE from the packs for the other sales.
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>>551318391
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>>551318337
he seems nice
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Upload an infantry replay, please.
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>>551318809
If you actually care about it i'll do a match trying to showcase everything and up it to youtube
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>>551314724
>Bitching about people whining and shitposting
Where do you think you are?
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>>551318932
I just wanna see how it runs on my PC and fuck around with a free cam.
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>in-laws: greeted
>bear: cracked open
>cbt invite: not received
>turm III: bought
yep...it's grinding time...
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>>551318556
I'm generally bad so it's not the thing. It just feels so floaty and janky.
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>>551319027
Oh yeah an actual replay, sorry didnt understand.
Gimme a link or a site to upload it and i'll send it to
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>>551319202
mega.nz
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>>551318809
I've seen you people ask for a replay but I still have yet to have a truly epic ownage match so you'll have to wait until I get one.
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>>551319202
catbox.moe
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>>551319202
>>551319027
>not using the fucking server replays

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/
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>>551309879
Japan could either get the Thai BTR-3 or Indonesian BTR-4E. China could get the Myanmar BTR-3.
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infantry cbt really exposes how dogshit bullet reg is in war thunder
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From my experience with the Japanese F-104, this will be straight ass - so I'm guessing only play it in Sim bombing bases?

I mean, I'm lucky - but I lowkey don't know if I'll use it.

It seems way too high of a BR as well.
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>>551319786
They aren't available, genius.
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>>551319882
holy lucky fuck but yeah it's not great anymore
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>>551319882
I forgot to mention - I bought the Obj. 140 back immediately before this.

))))))))))
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>>551319882
The TAF is literally the most botted plane in War Thunder. I genuinely report every TAF player with hundreds of matches in them for botting.
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>>551319882
I suck at planes in general but apparently I've done the best with the tech tree variant.
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>>551319882
why does every single one of you niggers get something in the crates? i haven't found fucking anything
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What's the best decal to pick for discounts?
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>>551313005
>>551312319
shame gaijin is obsessed with putting bots in their infantry games otherwise this might have been worth playing
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>>551319510
>https://limewire.com/d/7PIsx#98VgV4imHK
didnt want to make an account, this works tho
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>>551320383
>Rewindable replay
Based and thank you.
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chinkbrams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> muttbrams
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>>551320383
>limewire
thank yuo for dolphin porn
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testing my luck again, but would anyone know what the original to this gif is? a friend has been asking around for it and it seems near-impossible to find, I figured maybe someone in /wtg/ would have a clue on it
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how does the chinese abrams stats compare the hamburger one?
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kill me
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Has there ever been a moment where you actually quit the game because of how shit it was to play ?

For me it was during the Premium XM-1 spam, quit the game for like 2 years
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>>551321150
at least you get something from the scambox
last year I didnt get anything from 3 boxes so I gave up
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>>551321150
Later.
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>the 5 kill, no death BP challenge
>I just need like three more
>the last match be like:
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>>551321153
yeah usually a few days after i start playing again and then i find something else to do
imagine playing this game like it's some actual life passion or real hobby lmao
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>>551321153
>>551321562
Just look at /v/, some people make a game their life's passion, they partake in every thread about it, set up whole discords, write whole scripts with practiced lines and counterarguments, buy VPNs to seamlessly switch IPs when need be.

All this without actually having played the game.
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>>551319983
They actually are, I didn't expect it to just work.
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/ and search "Granitograd".
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should I bother with snowball event?
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>>551322176
Only takes like 30 minutes. How much do you care about a decoration?
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT

>looks at server replay
>32766 missiles loaded in each launcher on the fucking thing
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>>551321808
Oh, nice. I tried "granit" earlier and nothing showed up.
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>>551322327
Saw this in a custom battle and thought it was just a map script for unlimited ammo but apparently it wasn't.
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>>551320707
I believe they are the same.
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>>551322303
not enough to do snowball fight I guess
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Bombs or rockets for CAS at around 7.7?
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>>551322694
If you're good with bombs then bombs, obviously.
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>>551309876
fpbp
/thread
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just tried the snowball event once
meh fuck it
got 4/50 from one match so fuck this mode
maybe if it has actual vehicle or even cool camo as reward
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>>551321808
proper camera view isnt implemented yet I guess?
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>>551322694
depend on the vehicle
mostly the rockets so for popping SPAA
but thats goes all the way since prop stuffs
best scenario is to just bring both
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9EmS4g2-RE
BE ADVISED
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Would the ADTW be a good aircraft to grind Japan? AAM-3s sound nice but Sparrows at a BR where you're going to be facing SU-30 premium spam with R-77s and PL-12s is not as nice
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>>551323412
I think the actual "controlling infantry" code isn't enabled for non-CBT accounts (which also means any attempts to test drive infantry, like with that one tool that lets you test drive any tank in the game by creating a custom vehicle that does nothing but inherit the properties of the vehicle of your choosing, result in an instant crash to desktop), but from third person, everything seems functional.
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Not bad for the American toy, will get into the Euro fighters real quick like this
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>>551310521
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner
is this worth watching?
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>>551323412
Watch the local replay >>551320383
if you want true to gameplay perspective
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I JUST BOUGHT A TOP TIER JET, WHERES MY FUCKING INFANTRY INVITE ANTON??
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>>551317574
type 90 is balanced at it's new BR. Abrams is balanced at 10.7 since you give up armor/M774 for it's great mobility.
The T80 being 10.3 while having a better round than most other MBT's and having great armor and good mobility is actually criminal.
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>>551322327
>>551322507
iirc if you spawn with no aim120's but all 9X's, when you press the launch keys of the 9x and aim120 together you get unlimited aim120s. only works in an actual match though.
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9.0 feels much too fast paced for a grampa gamer like me, M60 is the fastest a tank should go
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>T-64B moved up to 10.0
OMGGG PIDAARROOSKIERBIAS!!!!
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>>551322176
no
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>shoot through a turret ring
>dudes inside go dark
>they're back to spinning and firing that fucking thing in 2 seconds
Solid shot is fucking shit. ~I don't care how cool the firefly is, i'm grinding yankees and krauts.
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>egregiously undertiered niggerbunker that's still undertiered got moved up one (1) br step
good, now move the rest of them two whole brs
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>>551324496
T-72A and T-64B always get uptiered anyway. We also need more powerful T-64s like the Bulat and BV mod 2017.
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>>551324253
is this kino?
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>>551324496
>>551324768
>antiRUSSIAN comments
CRINGE
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saw multiple people today shoot weakspots through smoke, pretty cool
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>>551314607
it's ass
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>>551324768
T-64 Bulat would be a good event vehicle
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>>551325124
You are ass.
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>
Not my fault that the lightly armored leopard 1s and fat mutt 60 pattons are such easy kills for T-62, T-64 and T-72 Chads
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>>551325061
You just now learned how hit cameras work?
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>>551317574
Type 90? The tank with paper-thin armor and a dart that can't even penetrate 500mm? At a BR where it's constantly dragged into matches with Leopard 2A7s and T-80BVMs? That's a niggermobile to you?
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>>551325135
Never happening until that little thing going on in south-western Russia ends. They didn't sell Bulat to anyone so won't get it in a roundabout way like Oplot either.
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>>551325318
nah, it's just sniping across the map with main gun tier knower shit
they were in the same clan all of them too
no testing the waters of the smoke screen with machine guns or multiple shots
just knowing
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>>551325282
for me T-55, T-62, T-64, T-72 is food for my M60s
i just sit behind a hill and use my svperior gun depression
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>TURMS-T isn't on sale
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svperior?
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>>551324038
>>551320602
>>551320910
I'm just back (i'm cooking for the christmas dinner)
Does it work?
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>Democratic Republic of the Congo– 25 to 50 T-64B1M tanks received from Ukraine in 2016. France should get it.
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>>551324798
I don't know if it's playable in VR, I'm just watching a replay. The lightning effects are fucked though, you can see it on the screenshot the shadows and some screen space effects are mismatched between the eyes, it's hard to look at, some areas look like mat_fullbright 1 in VR when they're supposed to be pitch-black.
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>>551325853
>France should get it.
yeah because france is a northern province of congo lmfao
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>10.7 russia is good now after BMPT got moved up
T-80B and Object 292 chads dining well tonight
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THIS HAS GONE ON FOR TOO LONG
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY "SHERMAN HUNTER" TITLE GAIJIN
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
I WANT MY FUCKING TITLE
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>9.3 is finally playable
>BMP-Ts are Type 90 food now
Great update
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Pick two
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>>551326292
No.
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>>551326292
rdf and bmd
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>>551326201
>>BMP-Ts are Type 90 food now
>its ok if I have the broken stuff
HATO never changes
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>>551326639
That's a good thing
Now kill yourself
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>>551315270
D.E.I.CE unironucally doesn't know how to make the netcode for a shooter. I've been getting shot with time travelling bullets since Bad Company 2.
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would be nicer if infantry and vehicles would spawn at the same time. Tired of waiting
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>>551320936
We have to wait a month for ststshark to update
My guess is a WR at 55% and a KD of 1.7 ~ 2.2
Obliterating muttstats and finally making them shut up about abrams being le bad
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>>551326639
Japan is not in HATO.
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>>551326671
+3 D.E.I. score!
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Pidor?
Yes pidor!
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>>551313198
BMD is criminally undertiered you can use it at 12.7 it plays the exact same
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>>551317361
>>551318543
Don't they do a final ingame sale after the store sale? Or am I misremembering things?
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Merry Christmas /wtg/! You guys make this game slightly less unbearable.
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>>551309761
Fucking love the new deco
Put it on your spaa for maximum seethe as the casoid watches you celebrate in the killcam
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>>551321153
I once ragequit when artillery killed me in a heavy tank. But never quit the game itself.
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howdy
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We should get the MiG-35 already. SU30-SM2 is a new plane with parts from the SU-35.



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