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Thread for the discussion of game console emulation, emulators, or your experiences in a game you're emulating


NFS Hot Pursuit 2 (PlayStation 2, 2002) edition
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>>551323557
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Read the General problems FAQ before asking questions. If you still need help, post your specs (HWiNFO screenshot), OS, emulator version number and details of what's wrong.

Please contribute to the wiki if you discover any inaccuracies or have relevant information to append.

READ THE WIKI BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE:
>Where do I get games
OR
>What is the best emulator for...

Check out the wiki for the emulator you're using if you run into trouble, there may be a solution there too, often including recommendations for optimal game settings.

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man PCSX2 is so fucking good nowadays
>>551324338
thank you for the pasta

is there a reason theres no emulation general as of late? i havent participated in the thread for a while so im out of the loop
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>>551324726
Newfags finally figured out how to use Retroarch. They're emulating.
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kinda wanna do retroachievements but it limits your emulator options, and while I like grinding achievements sometimes shit feels like I'm doing it just for the sake of the grind but if not makes me feel I dont engage with the game enough by just finishing it. dopamine rush approaching 100% is nice though. what do bros
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>>551330138
Just don't look at the list of achievements, try and guess what they would be while playing.
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>>551323557
fucking retard
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>>551332867
you are adopted
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>>551333424
no u
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>>551330138
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>>551334267
so true bestie
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>downloading romsets
Soulless
>finding games you're interested in and manually downloading them, slowly building a collection
Soul
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>>551341764
>>finding games you're interested in and manually downloading them, slowly building a collection
and then never playing a single one
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>>551341764
>>finding games you're interested in and manually downloading them, then never playing 95% of that
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>>551343272
>>551343538
Sovl
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I thought you guys were dead for christmas
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>>551323557
anyone successfully run final fantasy tactics on gamehub? i just get the splashscreen and it just freezes.
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>>551344141
Not me but yesterday I had to make the decision to put my 16-year-old cat to sleep. She was very sick, and I've had her for half my life (I'm 29 now). My lifelong companion is gone, so I feel pretty dead inside. Please keep me in your thoughts/prayers, I'm struggling you know... Best wishes to you and your families.
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Why do only videos and reddit threads come up when i google for a PCSX2 settings guide?
Didn't there used to be a pcsx2 forum post with the details on what you should set the settings to and what they each do ?
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>>551349343
Try putting "site:forums.pcsx2.net" before whatever you're searching for.
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>>551346667
Damn. Merry Christmas anon.
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>>551324726
People have started homebrewing. Old consoles are still emulated but normies would rather spend $50 to skip all that just to play PS2 games.
I've also started buying consoles and jailbreaking them. Just because emulation for those consoles are still shit. And good luck if you want to play niche games, no one is going to bother fixing bugs for those.
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Cool that stenzek added this
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commit/b55f4041bf02b2bf7f0711b7f83e8b6a1971cd42
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Bump
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You assholes oughta know.

Playing SNES on my Wii for CRT output, but it turns out the wiichuck isn't great for controlling SNES games. I'm a wire purist so I need a cheap controller with a USB or Gamecube connector and enough buttons to properly play SNES games.

Any suggestions?
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>>551371109
DS4, it works on the Wii.
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>>551371109
I just use the classic controller pro and I like well enough.
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>>551371109
I just use my 8BitDo Pro 2 for everything.
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Recommend me some PS1 games. I like JRPG games. I feel like I've played them all already.
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>>551374005
>rec me games
>i've played them all
>doesn't list any so people can avoid recommending them
Are you just trying to bump the thread or what?
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>>551374181
Listing them all would have been too long, but here you go. This is all the games I've played. I just copy-pasted the list from my spreadsheet:
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Chronicles
Final Fantasy Origins
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Suikoden III
Revelations: Persona
Persona 2
Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
The Legend of Dragoon
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve II
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Grandia
Wild Arms
Wild Arms II
Legend of Mana
Front Missions 3
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Vandal Hearts
Vandal Hearts II
Tales of Destiny

And some Japanese only titles:
Volfoss
Elder Gate
Ningyo no Rakuin

I feel like I've played most of the localized JRPGs and now I'm just looking for more niche Japanese only RPGs.
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>>551376013
Kings field?
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>>551376114
That's on my to play list, but I just never got into it. And I never really got interested in it because of the 1st person POV.
I'm looking for more Final Fantasy-esque gameplay.
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>>551376318
I haven't played it but I've heard Koudelka is good.
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>>551376318
Oh also there were a few dragon quest games on the ps1.
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>>551376318
Oh, and I forgot to update my list. I've finished Linda3 recently.

>>551376396
>Koudelka
Might try it, thanks.
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>>551376636
https://x.com/Hiroki_Kikuta_E/status/1939767663334686746
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Don't die on me again emugen. Not on Christmas Eve.
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Merry Christmas.
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Hi emugen, is there a repo for good mods of PS2 games?

I was going to play Yakuza on PCSX2 and found out about Yakuza Restored, which is a patch for the game that adds Japanese audio. My question is, how is one supposed to know about these? Are they listed anywhere?
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emu
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>>551323557
>Boot up Hot Pursuit 2
>"This game's recommended blending accuracy is High"
>set it to high
>cant notice the difference at all
>switch back and forth between "minimal" and "complete"
>still can't see it
>>551357309
>normies would rather spend $50 to skip all that just to play PS2 games.
how do normies even consider that easier?
Installing PCSX2 takes like 2 minutes
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>>551404742
Turning on a PS2 with FreeMcBoot takes 1 second. Some also don't want to tweak a setting every time they want to play a new game. For example, God Hand, you need to tweak that shit to make it look nice. Playing it on a genuine PS2 is as easy as booting up the PS2 and selecting the game.
And anyone who's been emulating stuff has pretty much played all the games they want to play. They either stop or want to play games that's not supported which makes them turn to homebrewing.
For example, Uncharted for the PSVita. Can't emulate that since it still crashes and I doubt they'll ever make it work. So they just spend money on a PSVita.

For me, I personally hate having to grab the latest firmware and keys for the Switch every time there's an update. I hate having to tweak settings, find mods and all that shit. I just want to play. So I got a Switch. Only for games that I really, really really like that I would look into emulating it if it has mods to make it look and run smoothly. But if I just want to play Ace Angler: Fishing Spirits and don't want to deal with the glitches or bugs then I'm just going to play on my hacked Switch.
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Check ninja turtles 3 xemu status. Listed as playable without issues.
Start playing the game, screen is flashing like crazy.
I hate this emulator.
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>>551407487
Playable doesn't mean playable from start to finish. It means it boots into the game and you're able to play for 10 minutes.
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>>551407972
>Playable doesn't mean playable from start to finish
In every other emulator it does. The xemu cunts just use playable to mask their lack of progress.
80% PLAYABLE!!!!!!! Bullshit.
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>>551355847
Thanks brother. Needed that. Merry Christmas.
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QUESTION TIME

Do you guys do retro gaming more on handhelds or TVs?

My friend recently gave me what he called a "holy grail" CRT, some kind of old Sony TV from the early 2000s, retro games look amazing on it but I kind of want to swap to a handheld just because it's easier to jump into games with
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>>551416892
PC. But you don't actually want to swap a Trinitron as in actually give it away for a chink handheld, right? That's stupid.
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>>551416892
>some kind of old Sony TV
Are you like 16 or something?
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>page 10
DAGA KOTOWARU
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Are the Mame roms on Myrient up to date?
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all of these regressions
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>>551438198
>GS Hardware
Who cares
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>>551323557
Dumb question but can I use Xemu by simply put the original DVD on my PC? The extract iso program doesn't seem to work on my Windows 10.
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>>551443049
https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Xbox_emulators#DVD_Drive
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>>551443450
nvm, I found a GUI version. But I may use your link for my DVDs later, ty.
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>>551416892
i never saw an issue with using a TV or a PC at home, i dont really understand the point of having a handheld for home use
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>>551448807
Not him but I prefer it for playing handheld games. Just feels right to me.
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>>551422484
That's what it's called! A Trinitron, I'm not going to give it away!
>>551422831
Just turned 20 this year
>>551448807
Laying in bed or watching TV while playing comes to mind!
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SANDMAN IS A SANDNIGGER
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(cont'd)
Seriously, Sandman is such a fucking bitch to knock out. There's only at least 4 frames where he's vulnerable to more damage during the first 50 seconds, but getting a TKO during the first round is NOT worth it.
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Which one do you guys prefer?
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>>551473794
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>>551474040
This looks better, I find that curved displays only work well in real life.
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Already page 10.
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emu
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>>551343272
>>551343538
Skill issue.
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>>551441002
(you) clearly do.
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>>551438198
PGS is the only hope
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>>551464665
I struggled so fucking much against this cock, only to fuck up Super Macho Man in no time. Goes without saying I've yet to conquer Mike.
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>>551473794
This one for sure.
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any tips for how to set up these settings for N64 emulation? I'm trying to play Conker
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https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/commits/master/
stenzek was active all during christmas. that is... telling and not unexpected
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>>551474040
What filter is that?
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>>551473794
This one is better since you get a little bit more blending like you on an actual crt.
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>>551523639
N64-related graphics settings are located in the "video" tab, not the "drivers" tab.
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>>551523639
Nothing to set up. The game should just run.
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Anything I can do to have objects in Pokemon Z-A not randomly pop in and out of existence when I walk around them? The game runs very well, but if I can fix this issue on Ryujinx then it would be perfect. I'm using Vulken and that 60FPS and increased FoV mod.
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What are currently the best general purpose controllers on the market? I'm looking for something with the Xbox layout
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>>551540343
>Xbox layout
Flydigi Vader or ZD ULtimate Legend
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>>551530981
Oh, gotcha.
>>551531172
It does, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

Thanks!
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>>551371109

No one cares but I found out that there's a special build of SNES9X GX that can recognize sixaxis controllers, which I happen to have one laying around so now I have a proper style controller for playing my SNES games on Wii.
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>>551547428
>a special build of SNES9X GX that can recognize sixaxis controllers
share it with the class
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>>551496262
Software and compute shader rendering are clearly the future of PS2 emulation
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>>551547713
Sure, it's not hard to find but here.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-gx-4-3-2-with-libsicksaxis.339612/
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Why should I choose software rendering over using my graphics processing unit to handle the graphics?
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>>551548467
GPU APIs change, x86-64 is forever.
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I hope shaderglass gets a linux port soon so I can drop this piece of shit and go back to standalone emulators.
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>>551549617
ares
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The GBA has a few 3D and "mode7" games. Is there any emulator with the option to use AA and increased internal res on them or is it too much of a niche feature?
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amd resulator anon i hate to break the news for you but
Geekbench 6 OpenCL

Exynos 2600 - 22,000 points
Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 - 23,900

Geekbench 6 Vulkan

Exynos 2600 - 22,800 points
Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5 - 27,600
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>>551550521
Standalone mGBA
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>>551549617
Sharts is still involved but you can use the WindowCast core in Linux combined with any standalone application so long as you're using X11.
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>>551550159
>ares
No Saturn
No Dreamcast
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>>551552126
Exactly, you can use ares for everything else.
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Is my PC being aids or is it expected for PCSX2 to regularly have small stutters in regular intervals?
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>>551552584
>is it expected for PCSX2 to regularly have small stutters in regular intervals?
That's not normal
Have you tried different games?
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>>551552584
Sounds like aids to me. Which game?
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>>551550159
No PS2 or GC?
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>>551552914
>>551554308
I have, it's less of an issue on most of them but I was playing Ace Combat 4 which seemed especially afflicted with it. Right now I'm playing GITS Stand Alone Complex, where it seems to only happen when you receive calls in the game. I didn't notice issues like this before. Also, MK Shaolin Monks when I first started it was absolutely sluggish.
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Is it possible to get the latest Emulation Station APK for free?
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>>551559987
>I didn't notice issues like this before
As in you didn't have this issue a month ago? If you're on nightly maybe an update introduced this
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Xemu updates.
Now it constantly says update available even if updated.
The clown show continues.
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>>551554541
Standalone ps2 is better than retroarch.
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>>551565754
Is it really? Unless you have the patience to compile on an Arch distro, LRPS2's the only other choice.
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>>551565754
>Standalone ps2 is better than retroarch
Depends on the game. On PCSX2 Ridge Racer V has visual glitches on anything else than Software mode. Meanwhile LRPS2 can play it at higher than native with Parallel-GS
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>>551551542
With a year or so of open source drivers both SoCs would pass 40k easily
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>>551563496
Could have been a month ago. I hadn't touched it in a while before the last week or so.
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>>551565754
I don't disagree but the point was that I wanted to use CRT shaders.
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>>551540343
I like 8BitDo controllers. But I hear GameSir is decent also.
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>>551568716
There are builds of pcsx2 with parallel gs.
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emu
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>>551567437
Yes. Retroshart should be killed.
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>>551529524
>>551473794
>newpixie crt
>>551474040
>royale fake bloom intel
>not on a 4k monitor

>>551477010
I used to be like that, but I think the blending >>551529704 on the Newpixie really helps!
Here's another example.
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>>551587309
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It's about fucking time! Cannot wait to play this, as it felt like forever ago that I was stuck on 1.5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIy_9h06WqY
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emu
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>8x internal resolution
>8x ssaa
>texture pack
>deInterlacing patch
>widescreen patch
>color correcting, lut, hdr, hqaa reshade
Now this is the ultimate lookin' good. you guys don't know what true quality is until you test this on something like Gran Turismo
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so show us a pic
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>>551363529
Why was this just added? Hasn't this been known for at least 10 years?
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>>551607030
Maybe stenzek didn't know. Or knew but didn't think people cared?
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>>551374005
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/games/rankings?platform=78&genre=48&list_type=rate&view_type=0&dlc=0&min_votes=2
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>>551433646
use pleasuredome for mame
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>>551473794
this one
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>>551540343
Hori wired switch pro controller.
It's like a 360 controller except it has one of the best d-pads in existence, second only to the original sega saturn.
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>>551433646
mdk.cab is the one you're after if you want to avoid torrents
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>>551552584
That's aids my dude
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I need some help; I'm trying to load the chao editor .vmi onto the vmu file I'm using in retroarch but I'm unable to use the pc utility. Is there anyone who can pass along a vmu file with the application in it?
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>>551617152
>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/games/rankings?platform=78&genre=48&list_type=rate&view_type=0&dlc=0&min_votes=2
5+ minimum votes is a disaster.10+ should be minimum.
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>>551433646
Nothing in myrient is up to date.
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>>551587491
>>551587309
Sorry dude but these blow balls. Too much dark/black crush, too much bloom.Also, use downsampling. It's guest, royale (full edition/svideo), or geomdeluxe. All the others suck shit.
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>>551634508
Honestly, I stopped using Myrient because they don't do any QC on the uploads. Half of the PS3 games I downloaded are corrupted. Even downloaded them 3 times to check if I just got a bad download. Then I downloaded the ones in IA and it worked flawlessly. Checked the hash for both and they don't match. Also there's a handful of games and DLCs that doesn't have anything on it except the .rap file.

I don't know what happened. It used to be good, now it's just shit.
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Thingy
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>>551642743
I remember politely pointing this out to them a year ago, they called me a liar and then banned me from their discord channel.
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>>551617587
Hori is a shit tier brand; nip madcatz
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I can't believe it's been so many year and android emulators for pc are still shady or crappy.
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>>551603956
5K + 8x ssaa

Show proof, Rankeesh
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>>551551542
>Samsung partners with AMD for their GPUs
>their drivers suck
It was the same shit with the RDNA 2 and 3 ones.
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>>551653208
It's just not happening on current hardware lol
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>>551651403
madcatz was no name chink brand tier
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>>551642584
No need to say sorry brother, these are all premade. I'll fidget around with the stuff you've mentioned, if I get any results that I like I'll throw them here!
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emu
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I need some help from you fine folks. I recently downloaded some games to emulate on my phone and some of them did not work. I quickly realized that I had two different sizes for the same game in CHD format. So certain files work just fine but others are not recognized by nethersx2, however both files unzip to the same file since I verified the hash for both.

So what the hell is this? There is more than one way to compress to CHD? And Nethersx2 only works with one of these? How can I tell which is which?

Here is proof. I just chose the smallest ps2 game I could find for this example:

https://limewire.com/d/LhMHt#6wwULpQaqj
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>>551680650
gen
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>>551650223
I used to get annoyed when normies would shill the website because it would eventually end up like Vimms where they just remove 90% of the games because of DMCA and shit. Now I just don't care. Let it die.
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>>551681180
maybe Nethersx2 doesn't support CHD files compressed with ZSTD
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>>551698491
It supports only CD-based algorithm of compression CHD. Yes you need to compress DVD ISO as CD in chdman
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Gamesir
Gamesir
Three bags full
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I'm setting up duckstation on my rg353p. its got a 640x480 screen. on small screens like this I like sharp, perfect pixels. should I run at 1x resolution and integer upscale to 480p, or just run at 2x resolution? not sure which is the more performant method.
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>>551707817
1x resolution, preferably. (Although, DS was meant to work on potatoes, so 2x might not make a huge difference.)
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why would myrient throttle me this hard down to 10kb/s? should i just cancel the download?
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>>551713932
Just downloaded a game at full speed here so dunno why you're getting throttled like that
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>>551642584
>geom deluxe
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>>551724213
>guest advanced NTSC
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>>551724382
>newpixie
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>>551713932
This happens when you don't have a referrer for the site in your HTTP headers, like by copy/pasting the link into another browser or program
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Just got a chinkheld running on Retroarch
What would be the best N64 core for it? I don't see myself using it that much compared to emulating on PC but I want to configure it properly while it's novel. The two cores pre-installed are ParaLLEI and Mupen64Plus-next; the former has critical visual errors on this device, and the latter seems accurate but can't run at full speed.
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>i... is that a feature that makes the user's life easier??
>DELETE THIS MY DIAPER-FUR GROOMING AND GOONING SESH IS RUINED
Get fucked, faggots.
why do I even fucking bother with this shit pit with these image challenges?
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I spend more time tweaking settings than actually playing games.
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thoughts on using a computer CRT for emulation?
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>>551756439
It's shit. It will never replace a real CRT. Just buy one.
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>>551748827
You're ready to switch to Loonix.
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>>551760682
I have 2 Windows machine, and 3 Linux machines already.
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>>551759680
Arent both real CRTs? whats the difference between a TV CRT and a PC CRT ? most importantly, TV CRTs dont seem to have a VGA connector for a computer
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>>551760682
>>551761507
by age 40, the average linux user grows tired of trying to install and tweak arch in every underpowered system imaginable and settles down to an usable distro like debian or linux mint.
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>>551756439
They're usually a lot higher resolution and don't use composite so you lose a lot of the blending that would have on a crt tv and generally have a different look to their image.
That said, I like using a crt monitor as a secondary monitor for normal computer stuff since they're still pretty good in their own way.
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>set retroarch on PC with no problems
>set retroarch on Switch with no problems
>set it on Android
>shaders setting always turns off by itself
>workaround is editing the cfg file
>edit it
>still doesn't work
>search for solutions
>it's an at least 7 year old bug
What a piece of shit. I wanted to use it because Lemuroid only has 1 shader and no integer scaling.
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>>551731335
why
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>>551773369
i just like the way crt monitors look, it makes games look more like "textures" rather than pixels if you know what i mean. They're very accurate but its still like 0.25 pixels per inch max and it gives a smoother look than the sharp and accurate LCD displays

plus of course it has pretty much perfect resolution scaling while flat panels dont
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>>551775446
To slow down extremely basic automated scripts/bots that can't send a referrer, bandwidth costs money.
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>>551748827
That's adulthood, bud. I spend more time solving image captchas than posting here, too.
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What's the best retard-proof GBC/GBA emulator for IOS mobile? The top options in the wiki are either cores or paywalled
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>>551756439
Pretty based for vertical shmups when put it on its side and run it in 240p/120hz. Otherwise they're kinda meh. They look just as sterile as any modern display at >640x480 and have pretty lousy brightness. 15khz CRT TVs have all the "soulful" artifacts you want and are a lot more vivid, but of course they are super limited in what resolutions and refresh rates they'll take, topping out at 480i, and PAL/NTSC hate each other.
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>>551786796
Enabling the referer solved it... so I have to suffer because I want to have a slightly faster browsing experience. Understandable but fucked up. Fucking script kiddies I guess. Yes I was in that /g/ thread about 4chan and referers the other day.
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I got into emulating older handheld games when I got a Steam Deck, but have now temporarily parted with it and am trying to continue my progress on my laptop. I don't have a controller so all I have to work with is keyboard and mouse. Obviously it sucks, but are there any recommended, intuitive ways for mapping controller inputs on a keyboard? Currently I've assigned A and B buttons to mouse buttons and various other buttons to various keys around WASD but I keep forgetting what I've set to what.
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>>551807215
My preferred button mapping setup on keyboard.
>Z - B
>X - A
>Start - Enter
>Select - RCtrl
>D-Pad - Arrow Keys
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where the fuck do I get a Duckstation .APK?
all the git links in the wiki are dead
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>>551809117
and lemuroid PSX doesn't want to find the games
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>>551807215
if i have a keypad i usually do arrow keys and then set one or two rows of numbers on the keypad as the face buttons
if its a laptop, maybe WASD for movement and then UIOJKL for face buttons you may need, enter for Start
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Do miniled monitors provide any benefit for CRT shaders? In theory it seems like they'd improve the effect, but I've never actually seen one running one. They also seem like they might be cool for those rolling scanline shaders that are supposed to increase motion clarity?

I'm sure OLED would be better all around but they're still too pricey and I feel like old games have too many static screen elements which would aggravate burn-in issues.
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emu
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Wasn't the emugen wiki a 4chan thing? When did r*ddit start being able to edit stuff?
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>>551825158
Anyone can edit the wiki, hence the "resulation" meme. (It was originally a mistranslation from a jeet referring to "resolution".)
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>>551825158
Been contributing to the emugen wiki for years now. Every so often some redditors or other pro-censorship onions types wander in and try to "fix" pages with their sanitized bullshit edits.
We just revert that crap immediately.
Literally guardians keeping the wiki based.
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can I play GameCube or ps2 games without analog sticks?
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>>551825604
let the /r/edditors create a list of which emulators are made by white supremacists that way I'll know which emulators to support
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>>551827778
Technically yes, as your could map stick directions on keyboard key, even mouse maybe. It will work, but it will be painful.
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>>551828217
not keyboard
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>>551828774
I hate Google images so much its unreal.
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>>551828992
...For the love of god what the hell is that thing? That's not a controller, it's a sex toy... Yeah, no, give up on anything with an analog stick with that thing.
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>>551810346
I hear you get like backlight ghosting with miniled because it takes the leds a few frames to dim/brighten as needed
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>>551829186
its a very nice mini controller you can stick on your phone's screen to play games
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>>551829405
Yeah, and you can also stick it into your butt.
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>>551829625
if you want
easier to buy a dildo.
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i would like to edit the wiki here and there and to add data but if i have to make an account then thats a no go for me anyway gran turismo emulation is reaching nintendo levels of autism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quC3-0PSMT4
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and i forgot to say that i love it
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>>551834803
I thought is was Spec-II the greatest GT4 mod ever.
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>>551835318
a mod to surpass metal gear
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>>551835961
I kneel, we have reached levels of autismo we didn't even knew were possible.
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>>551820629
gen



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