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when are the chinese telling us if lolis are good or not
>>551456717Worst character release in the game. >shit kit that demands A1 to be usable>exclusive space card that you can't recycle for future characters>rushed fanfic tier event >rewards that seem generous but are just from 2 events overlapping>$500 spending event
>>551456936>>rushed fanfic tier eventall events are like this
>>551456936don't forget limited toy collection thing that requires you to get the unit and the wonder outfit (that is like 3600 gems?)also you need to get premium upgraded + pass for pictures that boost caroline and justine stats
>>551457193>limited toy collectiondoes this actually do anything or just for the autists?
how op is the a6 effect? dunno if i should pull the trigger but all this effect nonsense makes my brain hurt, sounds like this would require me to thing less by giving me all the effects
>>551457378So let me get this straight. You have the disposable income to afford an A6 but you're being held back by meta? Are you even in a good guild that would benefit from you having access to the A6? Because if you were getting the characters at A6 because you liked them you wouldn't be asking this at all. It's just a really stupid question honestly.
I love my wife, Nishimori Haruna
>>551457548nah i just want to simplify the character and make her more versatile, i dont really care about meta but it should still be worth it
>>551457683>I don't care about metathen you should not be pulling A6, period. A2 is already overkill.
So how do I use the twins? I got A1 without reading their kit.
>>551457770i disagree with the notion that you should only pull dupes for meta reasons but i still want the characters i invested in to last as long as possible and since she is a supportive jack of all trades character even more so
>>551458057I mean I can tell that you want it anyway so just get it.
Absolutly clueless about what they did in that fight. I guess they buffed my Jonkler a little?I played them Fire/Ice (buff) and Bless/curse(sweeper) to be a subdps Curse.
>>551458256yeah but i dunno how good it really is and prydewen is always so fucking late for p5x stuff WHY THE FUCK DID THIS GAME HAVE TO BE SO UNDERRATED I THOUGHT PERSONA IS BIG
>>551458453>prydewenkek
>>551458453Sorry to say but only the top guilds are gonna be able to answer your question and that answer is gonna be gatekept. They're the only ones who pull A6s.
>>551458972i thought ours at /p5x/ are considered to be one of the top guilds?
kotone really tried to get wandah kasumi’d
>>551460457Kotone is a much better new version girl than kasumi
i want them to do art of mc every time they drop the new fits in similiar fashion to how bleach does it. would be giga kino
>>551457819Rotate skill one and skill two. At A1 on their first turn and after youve used both skills then skill 3 will auto trigger. Set their skills based on what role/buffs you want from their attacks.
>>551460517Nah
thank god i didnt roll for haru, the twins can just become my new psy dps
unc mad he has to spend money on a free game
>>551456936BASED
rejecting these girls really sucks but i want to be loyal to riko in the future no matter what
>>551460969well she didnt get him hit by a car so that a nice improvement
>every single day lufel tell me to get a jobwhat is his endgame?
>>551456936>>shit kit that demands A1 to be usableIf you aren't rolling A1 for a character you're unironically bricking your account.
>>551461569You don’t have enough jobs yet
>>551461569>¥200k in my pocket>Owl that has never had a job in its life calls me a poorfag
>>551458276Anon your third Persona slot?
why was this shit so difficult? it took like 104 turns for me
this french bitch wastes absolutely no time. rank 1 she immediately throws herself at wandah
>>551463751poor tomoko stood no chance against a stacy like her
>>551463751>>551463865This fuckin bitch...
i dress like this. thoughts?
>>551456936whalechads are eatin, poorfags are seethin
>>551463751From the subsequent Kotone synergy event hangouts currently on GB her coach is trying as hard as she can to get Kotone laid, so Kotone will skate better. And I'm only a tiny bit kidding, coach is like actively trying to get you to romance Kotone.
>>551464116thats some serious swag
Wonder, Makoto, Vino, Chord. Thankfully only takes ~35 turns to auto the event on level 25 with the buffs you get for beating it once. Thought it would be worse, but I'll probably get most of the items from the shop.
Do the twins replace Howler for Ann teams?
>>551457668We know, antiTomoko schizo
>>551465768The only people the twins replace are A6 4*s. They're quite mediocre in their buffs/debuffs
the game is saved
is sandalphon better than king frost? also, cu is better than yoshitsune for bosses right?
>>551466590are you talking about a0 twins?
>>551466652Lolichads, I kneel...
>Customize a rev card in cycle of fateWhere???
>>551466787Sandalphon better manual, king frost better auto
>>551466787The Auto refuses to use Sandalphon well so no, not really. The Auto will neglect preshielding anything at all.So King Frost and Norn remain the go-to shielders for most situations.
>>551466852Yes. Only whales pull for A1 limiteds
>>551467178no, thats dolphin tier. whales pull a6
>>551467356>>551467178You can roll a character every two patches. If you're remotely lucky while chasing down the "meta", you might have some excess that you can use to drop on the occasional only relevant at A1 character.
I pulled the twins A1R0 How should I use them?
Why is no one trading twins figurines, I have all these spares figures I was hoping to trade in. I don't have a lot of yen I spent it all on gifts.
>>551467531they are the most versatile unit, literally a jacked up wonder you can use them however you want
>>551467920>trading
>>551467920HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DON'T TELL HIM
>>551466590Does A1 Twins replace Howler then?
>>551469210No. Can you read?
>>551469254If you don't know the answer then you can just say so.
>>551469476Nigger they answered your question. The twins are not better than dedicated 5* supports.
The twins are pretty good healers at A1 They can heal every turn and provide pretty good buffs. Just trying it out in the companio boss, I borrowed an A6 Smotoha. Rest of the team was Smoko, Pheobe, and Leo. I scored 120m with Leo but switching to the Twins got me to 150m
>>551469476Howler is sexier than the twins. But I really doubt thw twins are a better debuffer for FS mont than her. Just due to how follow-ups work for them both.Now could you use the twins to cope? Yes. But that's what the twins will always be doing coping. The other guys description is pretty good the twins are like having a versatile 4* A6 in every role.
How do you survive Shiva's phase 2 with the heals debuff?
Shun or Vino's 5* weapon? I'm keeping another case for whenever I happen to get Marian off standard.
>>551471637use cherish instead of a healer
>>551471917I don't have him.
>>551471871Shun if you don't have 2 decent sustains. Riko's if you don't have Phoebe.
>>551471637just swap your twins to guardian mode and run King jack frost.
New day, Twins ended up peaking at #13. Slightly worse than S.Motoha at #10.
>>551471871Both are great but Id say Shun first, he sees slightly more use.
>>551472004ur retard
Question for anyone who knows for certain after all this time>15% of which stats are passed from Navs to the party?
the twins are not goodSo far only units to get a mindscape buff to unlock level 100, Yui(sucks) Tomoko(sucks) and Phoebe(sucks)But now in asian servers the twins released with this level 100 unlock to make them viable in current servers and weak in global.This is bad, they're not futureproof like eventually every unit will get this level 100 unlock so like the units just released before the twins in asia will get even better with future level 100 unlock but the twins won't
>>551474330>Yui(sucks) Tomoko(sucks)Have you considered that you have bad taste?
>>551474518Just ignore the dumbass
>>551474330surely the twins will get another set of buffs?
>>551474290Click the Eye and see for yourself
>>551475241Thank you, finally some confirmation I can believe in.I haven't revised my navi cards much at all and this gives me some ideas... like shoring up some of those stats you don't actually want on rev cards like Speed or SP Recovery that are unironically useful to an extent.
how many of these I need to get a char dupe?
>>551464223>>551464110Whore
>>55147562060I'm guessing that those are a permanent latelet giveout or something?I've only gotten 21 from Tasks since then...
>>551475670It's especially rude since I'm dating Tomoko in this timeline.
kotone dev must be stopped
>>551475732They gave everyone 60 at some point for scamming us out of a Minami awareness from Lufels Plan
>>551475902That does that for every synergy
>>551475874Well tomoko is just a slut so that’s even worse
>>551475960I know but I didn't expect it to be permanent unless anon was very patient or very oblivious
Is going from 100 to 105 Desire worth more than 23% Def shred?I feel like that's a good question to ask since the twins almost always are benching your cope Control deck 4-stars.I feel slowed down despite "better" stats.
Came back to the game because of the twins, was that already a thing on CN or was it a sudden surprise for all versions
>>551464116I dress my Wonder like a dandy, personally
>>551478235A sudden and unexpected christmas gift
>>551478235We got about 2 weeks notice for the simultaneous release on all servers.
>>551475902Her synergy has already started terribly and it makes me want to pull for her less
>>551477393I didn't read it right, my bad. The mail that rewarded the shards says it expires in 253 more days so that might be how long players are eligible to receive them.
>>551478985I haven't even started it yet because I feel like I'm forced to finish Tomoko first. I wish they would've warned us about this and I would have prioritized Tomoko more; she's only Rank 13 for me right now. Fuck this.
>>551479108>I would have prioritized Tomoko more; she's only Rank 13 for me right now
>>551478449>>551478726Oh, neat. I love the twins so I'm glad they're a thing. are they any good?
>>551479180Make that Rank 14 now.I still haven't given her the ring yet. That's going to blast her up ~512 relationship points... but I kind of want to wait until my last date of Rank 14 to drop that item on her (only to reject her right after and just remain friends).
>>551479108Tomoko's been my priority since day 1
>>551479546They’re complicated. So the level of goodness is a bit up in the air right now. Generally the first-look opinion is “decent but spread a bit too thin” - they can do pretty much everything, but that leaves them weaker than characters that specialize in one thing in particular. A very good pick-up if you’re missing a bunch of characters and want one that can be put into pretty much any tram and be effective, but if you’ve been playing from the start and have everyone they’re less desirable (aside from their bodies and cool animations).
>>551479761I want the best for Tomoko, but Kotone stole my heart.
>>551479887I see. Regardless, they're lolis, so I'm pulling for them.
>>551479981If you are, consider splurging for a second copy to get their A1 - it increases their effectiveness tremendously
>>551478985You can't avoid pulling her though
>>551479887I pulled because they're cute. I'll probably pull the next velvet attendant they do for the same reasons.
>>551479981>>551480224It really can't be overstated.
>>551481508Ganbare~
Can I beat the level 30 boss without Cherish or the twins?
Kotone's synergy is like they dug up a rough draft of what a Kasumi (the real one) confidant would've looked like.
Which clans are free?
>>551481508Next Velvet attendant will be Nameless.
>>551470671So you're saying even A6 Twins are just 4* A6? I somehow doubt that.
>>551479761Based
You do realize that nobody thinks your cool if you spend $1000 on fictional children right?
how do you use vpn to buy on webstore? like do you keep it on whole time during the buy process or do you just start the payment process then turn it off?
>>551482973Shameless samefagging schizo
>>551482815This guy has been calling them shit since they got announced. Just wait for the dust to settle on the real servers.
>>551482815With expanded mindscape buff, they apparently became good buffer and healer, but global doesn't have that yet so
>>551470671>Howler is sexier than the twins.Nah I think that animal paw cosplay looks stupid.
>>551483984>only one person doesn't agree with me
give me a non gay team
>>551483740Cringe
>>551484179Dude you can’t even do 20
>>551484179onions/cherish, leon. messa
>>551484275they are too tanky>>551484304i said non gay team
>>551484304Listen, Onions is muh dude, but Cherish is super fuckin gay and I don't know how or why chinks did that.
>>551484390If an anime character likes art then he's basically gay, even if they give him a girlfriend
>>551484179>>551484361Use any source of almighty damage to break their shieldsStop using level 50 units with unleveled cards
>>551484179Just make sure Wonder goes first and you have a persona with an AOE almighty skill to break that bullshit shield Parvati does every other turn -- if you do that, then you'll be able to hit them hard with your main dps every turn.
>>551484194Kys faggot
>>551484103There's only one person saying A6 Twins is worse than every 5*s.
>>551484361oh sorry joker/sepia/cherish
can i still get dupes from those RNG selectors if I already have them at a6
>>551484625Schizophrenia
>>551484589Take your own advice, schizo
>>551484275>>551484502This fight is actually really hard I cant be the only one.
>>551485384You literally talk to yourself every thread. Fuck off and die
>>551485451Post your characters.
>>551485451Buy lilith and it'll became super easy
>>551485589No, I did that and it was an absolute waste.I think Vishnu comes with an aoe almighty skill he can use.
holy cute
HAHAHAHAHA
which girl would fart during anal
>>551485486That's what you think, schizo
>>551485008Yeah but you will gain special currency for 5* dupes in the future and be able to hand them in for things like awareness shards and rainbow coins. I think the system remembers how much you have for when that shop gets implemented.
>>551485871I'm too old for waifus apparently
>>551486264ayaka and phoebe but the only exception that it would be hot instead of being disgustingthe rest of the cast would make turn me off
>>551485652Try Horus, you probably have him already.
>>551486585You're actually not subtle at all when you do it either, samefagging schizo.
>>551487009If you say so, schizo
>>551487076It's not 'if I say so'. It's a definitive fact that you're a no life shitter replying 'Based' to his own post. Do you have worms in your brain by any chance?
>>551487232If you think it's my post im replying it then it must be, schizo
Does global not list the bell gacha odds anywhere or am I blind? These are the TW odds if anyone was curious. Its heavily weighted ofcourse.
This event boss is BULLSHIT at level 30 they do so much fucking damage, is this a whale check?
>>551487489Your cherish? You didn't skip him like a redditor right?
>>551487442Yup im thinking you have a shit ton of worms just eating at your, already, small brain. That would explain your schizophrenia and samefagging.
>try game again>get into the first story segment>character do their shitty ass canned five seconds of animation before saying a throwaway line and then another dumbfuck animation just standing aroundnow i remember, the fucking glacial pace where nothing progresses and i'm stuck bored waiting for them to say whatever stupid shit. I'm two minutes into this shit and nothing was said except food food food because that's the only thing chinks can talk about.
>>551487694and then at the end, the characters go into a restaurant that just so happens to have a special chinese food menu
>>551487694atlus is handling the story
>>551487625I guess you're right, schizo. Everything you don't like is posted by the same person and you aren't crazy and obsessed
>>551487694The second arc was so fucking bad.Focusing a story on ramen that much should be a crime. Atleast the first arc was funny.
>>551487771>the characters go into a restaurant that just so happens to have a special chinese food menuU no like food gweilo?
>>551488114Why does the Japanese diner have a chinese food menu
>>551485736Polter is Super fucking cute
>>551487868Worm brain when are you going to stop projecting your schizophrenia
>>551489095As long as posting "based" on any random Tomoko post sets off your autism
>>551489192>any randomYou mean your own? Which you do every time without fail?
>>551489265If you say so, schizo
>>551489403Beautiful.Rejecting her is going to break my heart :(
>>551489403Cute and based
>>551489403>>551489486not really, she's pretty easy to kick to the curb
Just had sex with Miyu and kicked her out so she can sleep on the streets.
>>551489702Based, kick the trash back to the streets
https://x.com/P5XOfficialWest/status/2003737415429894356>Joker says he's S-Level 40Damn I'm only like S-level 37, I thought I played a lot
>>551489342>>551489403>>551489486>>551489534You have brain worms
>>551489342>>551489403>>551489486>>551489534You have worms in your brain
>>551490323I just hit SL 40 today while farming for power cards for the twins. Had to burn like 20 coffees to get a decent set.
Lol what a meltdown
>>551490323I'm only 30 and haven't missed a day except for the first ~week as I was trying to sort out a way to get the Japanese client (I didn't want to play in English).
wth wonder talked
alright what the fuck am i missing on parvati and shiva, they can't actually expect me to beat them under that time limit when they just become immune to damage one out every two rounds
>>551491556see>>551486846>>551485652>>551484550>>551484502etc
>>551484013tf is "expanded mindscape buff"
>>551485736playable in the future?
>>551492991One can only assume sovery likely the next main party member. As of now: aware of the phantom thieves and their identity, has been in the metaverse, has a lot of memory/cognition things messing with her, is probably the most fleshed out character in the game, and has a prominent role in the second opening - but not a playable character with a persona yet Her name is Aran. You can call her Polter tho.
>>551493275aran? ive only ever heard that weird ass name in metroid
>>551493275>most fleshed out character in the gameHow do you figure?
>>551485736Sexy mushroom
>>551492897Mindscape has some locked stuffs currently right? Recently, they unlocked it in CN ver, it gives some huge buffs. But so far only outdated early chars (BUI, Phoebe, etc) got it + the twins
>>551493627but OP was talking about a6
Bros, i still don't know if i should buy every shop persona for compendium or save for max dupe persona or save for rank 9
how do you get the twin's background for the gachapon figurines?
>>551493896Did you collect them all?
>>551493896go to the gachapon collection menu and claim it like other gachapon background, requires 100% collection of course
>>551493341Hey man it's not THAT rare
>>551493942>>551493959Yeah I'm retarded, forgot that I had to go to the collection menu to get it first.
can you use cognitite shards to get a character you dont have? or are they only really for awareness
>>551494453You need to own them.
>>551484179Wonder, Riddle, Justine/Caroline + whoever the fuck else you wantRegardless of who goes into the final spots, you're guaranteed to have an equal or greater amount high quality loli pussy compared to dicks, and can thus mathematically guarantee that no balls are touching during intercourse
you think they'll ever make Justine/Caroline cognitie-able?
>>551493415nta, but most of the other characters aren't very fleshed out unfortunately...
alright well lilith and twins are not enough almighty damage for 25, i guessgotta find a way to make wonder move fast maybe
>>551494843perhaps 2 years later, so far the cognitie things only expand to Makoto in CN
>>551495723oh damn, still?
>>551495706>lilith and twins are not enough almighty damageBro. You just need one; the almighty damage isn't about the damage, it's about breaking the shield so you can attack them with your good shit. Just make sure your almighty damage dealer has good speed and goes before your dps.
>>551495002i disagree
>>551495706I'm walled at 25, then bought lilith then it became easy. Don't even need to build her, just level her up and make sure wonder is faster than your damage dealer
>>551496054yeah but wonder is slow as fuck and goes 3rdthe twins are fast but they can only use their almighty skill every other cyclei don't know how to change his speed
>>551496246inherit agility masterThough that wasn't necessary in my case since my twins doesn't have any speed stat in their cards
>>551496246the agility master passive. i slapped agility boost III on vishnu and it gives him the first turn
Why did they put so much more effort into this French hoe's synergy?
>>551496765They know she's best girl.
>>551496765She's one of the first characters from the beta, the tutorial pull who on average stayed on a lot of teams pulling her own weight at times and is the first Idol to have the ability to switch between seperate elemental movesets. Aside from having arguably the most time since her conception for her synergy plus the task benefits, she's also more on the appealing side characteristic wise.Needless to say, I like her for no small amount of reasons. Although someone at Black Wings studios definitely was having a laughing fit when Door Kun came to the gacha and they chose Kotone to be one of the firsts to meet him.
>>551495706(try makoto and chord and futaba)
>>551496765>Make a good character>Make a good synergyEffort does a fair bit and it shows in the ice queen.
>>551497224wouldn't that be not enough healing? if i could get away with not using minami i would, but i feel like the team would die too fast
>>551496765Aside from the advantages she gives for the daily grind and what >>551497141 has said, she's pretty cool (No pun intended)
>>551497224alright i tried it and you fucking lied to me, chord sucks in this fight because makoto gets downed every turn
Anyone else can't pay with PayPal anymore in the webshop with japanese VPN?
>>551493836the schema arent that important since you probably have theimportant stats like attack and crit stuff maxed anyway, id maybe max the personas you like and save for the rank9 whos quite a while away
>>551498362>webshop with japanese VPN?Didn't you read that warning a couple months ago?You're gonna get bricked, bro.
>>551498362No? I had no issues just now. Try another VPN or payment method.
>>551498628More like the game gonna get bricked if they ban all who use a vpn.>>551498697Yeah might be the VPN. CC still works.
>>551498362>>551498697>>551498884How much better are the JPN prices compared to US/CAN?
did anyone buy the 6 dollar pack? apparently ticket debt is a thing since they messed up the amount of tickets included and are now they're taking back the tickets
>>55149923515-20% off.
>>551498884Not about using a VPN, but playing over one network (e.g. no VPN) and then suddenly jumping to another network (VPN) on the other side of the world when making payments.>>551499235I play on the Japanese client but pay north-american prices because I'm too much of a pussy.
>>551499845You're an idiot and throwing money way. These companies are not going to ban you if you're a paying customer.
In theory couldn't you just run twins + chord + INSERT_NUKER_MISC_ELEMENT for any content?
>>551498362>>551498697your paypal doesnt care that you're paying from japan vpn and doenst like lock your account?
>>551500102yeah. You can also run Leon + Chord + INSERT_NUKER_MISC_ELEMENT tho
>>551500102Twins as support? Isn't that only good with CN buffs?
>>551500519no since ive been to japan and used it there, never had an issue since
>>551483984>Just wait for the dust to settle on the real servers.Reminder that the real servers got extra buffs.Some of them we'll get in the next patch, but the serious stuff is still 1 year away for us, unless they backport the feature earlier.
>>551472675At the end of the day breedable women with black tier bodies are what the people want. This loli shit isn't cutting it.
>>551477393NTA, but waited for the update too.Those 60 shards were sitting in my bag until I got an awareness shard for my 'koto.I mean, there was basically no one to spend them on.>Standards? No.>Joker? Meh, he's only useful in his shilled battles at this point.>Bui? Lmao.Waiting for Fox and Queen after they confirmed they would be added was the obvious choice desu.
>>551478235They were released as a unified update for all the servers at the same time.Dataminers found that they were becoming playable characters at the beginning of November though.
>>551503739Makoto's first dupe is actively bricking her though. You likely use Futaba or Phoebe, and you burst on turn 3/6, which is not possible when you activate your mode on turn 1 anyways.Sure it's a few extra stats, but she's bloated on those stats to begin with.
>>551503739Bui's A1 is pretty good
>>551482662Nameless AND Belladona.Nameless sets the mood playing the piano basically everywhere, everytime and does nothing else with the music of the Thieves app, battles and shit changing as soon as his model appears on the screen, and if he's defeated in battle the music goes back to normal.Belladona fights using her voice like DC's Black Canary, her weapon being obviously a microphone.I have a vision.Easily the worst selling update in the history of the game and gacha games in general, kek.
>>551504394It's literally JUST extra crit. rate, what are you talking about.
>>551492991>>551493275>One can only assume soPlayable status? Confirmed.Her persona? Artemisia Gentileschi.Source? The classroom questions.I will not elaborate.
>>551504625you're essentially getting her to crit 100% of the time
>>551494843I have this feeling that the cognishard pool will be updated with each rerun, but unlike it happens with the limited character weapons where they're made available immediately when the rerun happens, the cognishard might be added X months after the rerun (unless the stupid big delay from 2.0 to 2.7 was only for Fox and Queen for... reasons or something).Think about it, the only characters available right now are the standards and the limiteds who had at least 1 rerun.Phoebe isn't there.But we know she's coming because they mentioned she would be added to the pool in the 2.0 stream.BUT her banner hasn't been rerun got.I have no evidence, but I also have no doubts.
>>551505158time to save my cognishards for a6 twins
>>551496765Because she was created to celebrate a new major release, the version 3.0 of the game. That's kind of a milestone.It's the same with Chord back during the 2.0 update.Except Mont is being added much later, so they had to raise the bar a bit quality wise.For Chord they composed new songs.For Mont they made new illustrations and cool animations to flesh out her synergy.
>>551505085She gets enough crit. rate from cards and Rebellion.To me, her A1 is low priority stuff.It's not bad per se, it helps her go crazy when her follow ups hit and enables Wonder to apply 1 different buff or debuff in a Rebellion turn, but there's better picks desu.Queen for a big damage boost, Fox for extra Auto comfiness.Even Marian's would be a better investment, specially now that we just got a free box with her weapon.
Speaking of the box, how much of an upgrade is Vino's 5* weapon over her 4*?
>>551507093The free weapon box was there when they gave the 60 thingies as well. Marian with 1 dupe and weapon has been standard since then if you pulled her.By now I hardly use her.
>>551507389i dont have it but ive heard its one of the better 4 star character 5 star weapons since it helps with reducing defense and ailments helping characters like queen especially
>>551508687Yeah, I heard something similar.She still has her uses even in China, which is crazy. 4.6.2 is a fairly recent patch, post Nuke Bui and look at her go.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYJIEE-Tz4cI was debating whether I should save the box and grab Marian's once I pull her, but turns out we're getting 2 more boxes in the next patch (one for the original 5* standards and one for all the standards), so no need to wait.
>>551508423I still use her and Smoko depending on the content. Not sure how you can do some of the harder challenge quests without a healer desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlRysiGgTz0
>>551509709Smoko is way better (I have one dupe and her weapon) and I got an early shield dude who actually has pretty massive buffs and helps you not get downed/statused. She's only relevant if one side needs SMoko and I need to play SMotoha the other side. She simply gives the lowest amount of offensive boosts out of all "premium" sustains and she's also kinda the worst at keeping you alive. The damage mitigation that Smoko and shield guy have go a long way. Fuck even the TWINS have damage mitigation built in. All that Marian has is a max HP buff that you won't see until turn 2. Risky. But still WAY ahead of the cat or owl of course.
>>551510431I like the new arrangement, but I wish it wasn't slower paced than the original desu.Now the new Aria of the Soul remix? That's a banger, I love it. I hope we get a proper full version soon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY801KkaHMw
cant decide between minami and riko…
>>551512720Minami and it's not even a contest desu.
>>551512886idk, rikos filthy rich and super cute
>>551510898
Twins > Marian
>>551516171As a healer class? Marian is still better since she can cleanse ailments, the twins has some damage and buffs though
>>551516171>>551516331Marian also has overhealing which is great for sustain and even better for SMotoha because it buffs her damage, extra damage for her heal targets in general, and at A1 she gives pierce rate too (doesn't that stat get a rework later on when CNY Rin or Turbo come out or something?)
>>551516331>>551517131Marian's main claim to fame is ailment cleanse. The twins can also raise max hp + heal off the highlight.
Would the Twins be better support than Wind Vast for Kasumi?
>>551517920kasumi's best support is getting shoved into a car by her schizophrenic sister who then tries to replace her
what's so oxymoronic about the twins? They have a skill called oxymoron and even their hats spell out the word if you combine the letters on their hats
If I reset a rev card, do I get a second chance to fish for the random stat boost?
shiva(lvl30) is filtering me
>>551518439>what's so oxymoronic about the twins?Their entire behavior?They constantly say and do things in a mean or even snarky tone at first, only to do the opposite later on.>We can do this ourselves no problem.>Actually we'll let you show us the way.>We must hurry up on our investigation.>But we could totally take our time to go to random tourism spots and each fancy food.Etc, etc.Oxymorons are contradictions, and their behavior is often times contradictory in the story of P5 and what little there is of them now in P5X.This is basic shit Nigga, what the fuck.
>>551518902Same.The HP recovery debuffs and the amount of health they have is so annoying.I'm gonna Vino, Queen, Chord and Navi later, with Wonder on permanent shield support.
Jeets have made it impossible to kill their gods.
The longer I look at it the less necessary the twins seem to be
>>551520465This is my opinion of the twins.
>>551520724I honestly just run a assassin build and will be switching to chord/kasumi/smoko when she releasesDon't ever see myself using the twins
>>551520724No, it isn't.That's Korea's opinion, and they have access to a number of buffs that we don't.
>>551520923Korea doesn't have an opinion on the twins, it's been maybe 24 hours post release, they're still testing.>>551520863Yea that's a problem a lot of people are going to face, if you have a big roster and roll for new characters a lot they're not great, if you look at the release schedules and can plan ahead who you'll roll for like Kasumi, wind vast they're effectiveness goes down as you can reasonably predict if you'll have holes or not or more likely already have predicted that.They're good if you skip a lot of units or a new, I think I can see myself using them to fill teams and I might even skip characters entirely and use them instead.
>>551520923A1R0 Twins are fine on our side. As a medic they basically have 100% uptime on the heals and the guardian/saboteur/strategiest specs arent halfbad either.Their biggest problem is that needing A1 minimum to get anything done (for real instead of shit like Chord/Futaba) makes them unfriendly to add to a lot of comps.
I wish this game gave me Marian from all of my standard tickets so I could try out Sweeper Twins on Vishnu + Garudas. Moko is busy supporting Haru and I dont trust Morgana even if I got spooked by him up to A4.
