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HINALEADERNOW
5-0 GOD
It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.
Hello there rsv Merry Christmas (and happy birthday to me a couple days ago) here is new Sekka art - I posted this on the last thread right as it closed so im resending it
>>551501332>0 roaches in the whole thingit never even started
>>551501420Happy birthday again and I hope you had a jolly Christmas, thanks for the art. Can't wait to see the full!
>>551501439Yeah... it's rough out here...
>>551501420happy belated birthday anon>>551479835>>551490326JP is Loot/Rune vs Loot/Rune...EN is Loot/Rune vs Loot/Rune...KR is Loot/Rune vs Loot/Rune...TW is Loot/Rune vs Loot/Haven
>>551501420Will be in folder later
>>551501670Rune upplayers/Loot downplayers? Your apology?
>>551501708>bells as buttplug maybeohhhh yeah that's gonna be good
>loot/rune vs loot/rune>hmm lets check jp maybe it's better th->loot/rune vs loot/rune
It's starting. They're showing off the 4-1 and better players.
>>551501670on to TW for me then
>>551501730There's an evo sword being played, which makes sword twice as diverse as rune.
perfumer is balanced btw
>t0 rune>t1 loot>>>>POWER GAP<<<<>the rest
>>551502109Shut up and nerf Puppet Cat, monkeyman
>>551502109Loot is t0.5. Its only flaw is that it has the potential to brick because it can draw too much loot or not enough loot. Rune doesn't have that flaw because outside of Raio and Lillanthum they dont have cards that can fuck themselves over early and they have extra draw power and ruby but better to mitigate it.
how is haven the first craft that got nerfed?
Couldn't you bring a deck that beats loot and then bring roach or rose queen for easy rune
>OH MAI GAHWKino
>>551502368Because it still does pretty decent against rune/sword in a tournament setting despite the nerf.
it kinda sucks liking dirt but not liking evolveironically norman, the problem card, is the most based card in the deck because he actually uses golems
>>551502453Right?I tried, truly, to use remi and runeknight again this set but evo just beats it in every way.just let me use golems
>>551502372You don't bring one deck to beat one deck and another to beat another, because you can't guarantee which matchups you'll get.You want to bring two decks that both beat the same meta deck so anyone bringing that deck can't get a win with it against you.
TW stream is funny, one of the casters got so hyped up he peaked the mic
>>551502372Roach dirt is a 6-4 matchup in the best case scenario so no it's never worth bringing when it has an absolute dogshit matchup against sword and portal. Dirt can just overwhelm the board midgame and forest cant clear those boards and also pierce Norman walls.
>>551502368because 2pp heal 10 was bullshit and unhealthy for the game
>>551502272Who cares whether loot is t0.5 or t1? There are no other decks in either of those tiers anyway.
HIMEKA
>>551502695and dealing 8 aoe damage and 12 to face from hand is not?
the himanko is so loose.....
>>551502368non-petcraft flying too close to the sun
>>551502835where did I say that
>>551502368Was too strong and was not sword or rune so it's nerf or nothing
>>551502936the orchid one looks sick
>>551502531Even back in set 2, people cleared my double Norman golems and even the 3rd golem from Juno. I almost never was able to win with RemiRami evolving a surviving a golem. The few times it happened though felt so good.
>>551502936if it was just the characters and not vtuber stuff I would have gotten the wilbert one
why did the loot player on jp not just clear with zetabea, he had 18 damage with kagemitsu the next turn
The moment Albert gets rotated they will add a new better one. Same for Anne and Grea.
>>551503008they're simply too fair.+5 damage from a sevo that requires a body from a previous turn just isn't enough in WB.Kagemitsu does that simply by existing
>>551503032>he had 18 damage with kagemitsu the next turndie to single norman, either full 20 hp or 18 + ward
>>551503032And the rune player had 2x sagelights and I think even Norman. It was obvious that there was no Sincero so he could even just make 2x golems instead of healing.
>>551503272anything that requires a surviving body is too fair (unless the body can resurrect itself 3+ times)
>Started at 2am>Still going at almost 10amGlad I didn't stay up for this and went to bed instead.
>3 marwynn played by turn 6interesting haven match
Verdict on new dragon card?I like the concept but deal 8 to 2 followers feels weik for a 10pp card even in dragon
>>55150408510PP card is too weak in every craft except rune
>>551504085She demands every deck run actual hard removal (11hp) or lose the game next turn.If they can get something to fill in the gap between neptune and the tarot, I could see it doing pretty well.Her and the gold are both pretty great imo.she's going to break t2
>10ppit's a turn 6 play
>kagemitsu lethal again
feels like half the games we've seen today have been kagemitsu based
Apologize right now.
>>551504085>prosgood effects >cons10pp, can't clear Norman
>>551504608Literally never doubted him. This was definitely not influenced by the fact I got 3 of him really early on.
wait there's morehow much longer is it
>>551504397Well I guess if your opponent only has 1 body on the field the evo effect is really good, 8 (9 with sevo) face damage and a 11/11 intimidate chungus on the field is a huge powerplay. I'm more concerned about the non-evo effect, but I guess if you're gonna heal 8 without evo it's not realistic to expect anything better than 8 damage to 2 followers especially in dragonThe gold is insane for sure, best dragon card since neptune
actually it doesn't matter how much longer it is if i don't sleep now i risk not having time to do gp
>>5515048751 final set.It remains to be seen if they're showing us all four games, or if we're keeping the all at once thing they've been doing.Probably another half hour, forty five minutes at most?
What did I miss? did NA win?
>>551504884Yeah a 10pp clear two+heal 8 with ward isn't broken or anything.Dragon has two ways to lower her cost now at least, and one of them probably isn't even a total meme like ho-chan is
>>551505079LMAO
>>551505079rmao
oh we made it inyay
Reroll is the evo sword player btw
>>551505118You mean getenou or the 6pp dragon spell?Getenou's 2nd effect is a huge cope "I have nothing to lose" button, and the 6pp dragon spell is unplayable garbage
>>551505489he talkin about the latest cuck lego lil broit does everything
Haven sisters I can't stay up any longer... Goodnight
>>551505489Getenou.She seems a little more generically playable than ho-chan. I don't remember a 6pp dragon card getting revealed?
>>551504085she could delay your death if you play burnite-astarot otk if you didn't have gentenou already
>>551505646gn anon.you did your best
>>551505573So getenou?8pp discard all draw 2 is cope, you never want to use this unless absolutely necessary or you only have her in hand or something>>551505658Dragon has a 6pp gold card that deals 3 damage to all followers on your opponent's side and reduces the cost of a card of your hand by 2You never see it played because it's fucking shit
Alejanpro (America) made it to the playoffs!
what's the name of the dude with the patch eye that belongs to forest? was he in previous sv too?
>>551506081Wolfraud, and yes. https://svgdb.me/cards/117141010
>still only showing three matches despite the four streamswhy............................................!
>>551506208>wolFRAUDis it over then?
fix the servers shadowbaboons
>>551504085I just woke up and saw that.As a dragon main, looks pretty fucking good to me.
>>551506219wait they're only showing two.what a shitshow
I just woke up and I missed everything
>>551506510In summary>Izudia jobbed>kageDEITY>haven did ok>lootrunelootrunelootrunelootrunelootrune
>>551506623Nice, thank you
He's getting smoked...
>Midsword is shitting on crest havenThis was supposed to be the easy pity win for Alejanpro
For fucks sake just reveal the final ticket already why are they dragging this reveal so much
nice and clean evo sword
portalbros, our downplay?
>>551507337despite popular belief current crest rarely has enough clear for evo shitting out full boards every turn
ahhh that's why there were only two.>nine and a half hour day oneI'm not ready for best of five tomorrow...
>>551507534They're fucking faggots that's why
https://x.com/shadowverse_jp/status/2004492385880100910
>>551507968>10pp legend skinmy monster card...
>>551507839That game really showed that>Use blinding faith to clear out the early game into>No answer for Zirconia into >No answer for Luminous mage into>No answer for Gildaria
lol
>>551507968>frierennew hanafuda girl>fernnew hanafuda old man>starkog sv female dragonwhy not that new hanafuda mesugaki. is she the 2nd leader for normal pack?
Dragon unironically won
>>551508429she just fat lil bro
>>551508429Why did we get a scalie instead of this goddess........
>uncs
>loot/rune vs loot/rune>loot/rune vs loot/runeoh well...the evo game was fun
the new anathema are being demoted to silver
Is this the worst meta yet? Even endless crest mirrors were more fun.
>>551508773No, it's pretty fun.
>>551508773that's the nostalgia talking.dirt alone is more interesting to watch then crest.and loot is fineish thanks to the different lethals
>dirt>interestingThat idiot runefag spilling spaghetti in mirror doesn't make it interesting. It makes him a moron carried by a broken deck
>1 (uno) forest>not a SINGLE dragon deck in the entire tournament>meanwhile in petcraftverse>Rune has been tier 1 since set 1 (1.5 in set 3), now the closests to tier 0 a deck has been since release>20 LOOT swordslopI don't mind dirt getting its moment of glory because the deck is genuinely well-made but the fact that its hard counters (roach, haven) are essentially unplayable really hurts the formatI can't believe we've had 4 months of disgusting loot sword niggery ruining the game for everyone in a row and cygays not doing anything about it, what absolute shitshow
What happened to /ourguy/ barric?
>>551508981ward hard countered dirt until they started playing 2x raiocrest never hard countered dirtbeing able to banish 1 card is far from being a hard counter
was there any abyss
>>551509070we only saw two of his games I think?He ended on a 3-3 or 4-2 ,with the second set we saw was him being an enormous lucklet
>>551509070>>551509160he went 2-4 and was banished to the LCQ shadow realm
>>551509117Crest also beat dirt before they started playing a bunch of raios, crest just outvalues raioless dirt and can play around OTKsPretty funny how one of the worst legendaries in the game ended up breaking dirt one set later
>>551508981As a dragonigger, there's a reason I uninstalled recently.Playing this deck is just too much suffering when Loot sword is in the meta.I'll reinstall when the next set drops though, kind of wish I could make a fresh account though. I hate being stuck at "high rank" as a shitter who just played a lot of games.
>>551508981I play dirt and I think puppets is a pretty strong counter, moreso than roach or (ward) haven. Why isn't it being played? I don't know what the puppet vs loot match up is like. Is that one of the reasons why?
oji san....
>>551509158https://youtu.be/0gCfkO2Yr3gat around -6:30:00I think there was another but I don't remember which stream
I think I'll try dragoncraft and forestcraft next set...I need to expand my horizons
>>551507968He fucks Fern
>>551509271I play dragon too, try playing the skybound evo dragon variant. It's a bit of a meme but at least it has real chances vs loot, unlike storm ramp dragon which is literally unplayable into loot>>551509305Well puppet vs loot is one of the absolute worst matchups in the game (for puppets), it's almost as bad as roach vs ward havenPuppets are strong vs dirt rune it's definitely favored for puppets, but it's not unplayable for dirt. Roach is the single worst matchup for dirt and it's not even close.
HOLY FUCKso close
I'm expanding in eudie
>plain dude with an axeThe fuck is wrong with this collab?
>>551509741yeah this is gen z's favourite anime frieren
>>551509414lol
>be a deck that can't heal at least 8 a turn>que vs loot>oh well I guess I just lose
>>551509412trannysis...
RAIOOOOOOOO
>jp stream has both rune players two raio deepwild stuff over there
KAMI NO TOPUUUUUUUUUUUU
>5 sets in>still no hint of Bahamut, the literal mascotExcuse me but what the fuck?
>>551510050...niggerman
>>551510405let the board sloppers enjoy some time under the sun bros
>>551502368Not a petcraft and beats the shit out of Rune
top deck ardour pleaseit would be so funny
>>551509741>Warrior with an Axe>Love interest of the big tiddy witchPretty based dude honestly.>>551509808Frieren is boomer coded. It's too slow paced for zoomies.
>551509828You are mentally ill
>>551511113>>551509828
just because loot is toxic doesn't mean that 2pp heal 10 was not
>>551509741Stark is based.>>551510916I hate to break it to you, but zoomers love it
>>551511198i lost way more to loot than i did to 2pp heal 10. I also lost to astaroth SEVO after dimensional climb satan more than I lost to 2pp heal 10
>>551511757you should heal my pp instead
>>551511862WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>551511862me on the right
>>551511862me on the right about to get stuffed by aruberu
>Double AlbertSkilled
ARUBERU CHOUCHINKO
>>551511862albert is homo tho
Name: Holiest Authority (or Supreme Sacred Dignity)Class: HavencraftRarity: GoldType: FollowerCost: 5Attack/Defense: 2/3Card Text:[Fanfare] Restore 1 defense to your leader.[Ward]When your leader's defense is restored, if it is your turn, summon 1 Fox of Purity [1/3 haven ward] to your field.[On Evolve] Activate the same ability as [Fanfare].[Super Evolve] Activate the same ability as [Fanfare].
>>551512519ward hag doesnt need healing fuck off fkhr
>>551512519>honey we have abyss hags at home>abyss hags at home
>>551512519he will be the new haven ticket
>>551512519Weak unless they reprint healing amulets or 0pp healing spells
>>551512734your tikoh?
>class : haven>cost : seventy bajillionyeah ok greatis haven gonna get anything actually playable or
>>551512519reminder that sword can summon ward wall for 5pp without needing to jump through these hoops and it's a silver card from set 1
>>551512768shut the fuck up bitch
>>551512734Do you really want to boardlock yourself with the foxes tho...
>2/3Meanwhile other crafts get 4/4 that can do everything with fanfare alone
>>551512519artifact tier card wtf
>>551512519I can see this working a bit with crests that can heal. Sandalphon and Supplicant of Repose would get you two foxes already.
havensisters...I don't feel so good...
>>551512519holy kek
>>551512734For instance
>>551512940sandy sure but how are you gonna spend 5pp on this, not attack anything and still clear threats? oh wait you won't
retards
>>551513083By sticking it in crest silly.It gives crest actual presence on the board
>>551513083if only there was a craft where you could do nothing
>>551513159you should stick it in me insteadi want to feel your presence in me....
>>551512519All that foxes just to get sinciro'd
>play him after wilbert>7/15 stats on the board with 2pp left
here's your conditional luminous magus after 5 sets bro
>>551513159>>551513181think you missed the memo where you spend 5pp on this dogshit instead of addressing the board
has /svg/ rated a single haven card correctly in WB?
>>551513383everyone knew that Himeka is unplayable garbage
>>551513238
>>551513276On turn 7, Aether creates a bigger board and every craft can clear it easily
>>551512519this is literally the exact same sv1 card but nerfed
>>551512519Interesting cardHowever haven has a garbage early game and this card doesn't address it at all, it's also not ideal to play on curve even into an open board
WAOW we got THREE full reveals today?? that's 50% more than the last two days we're eating good shadobasisters
I couldn't even qualify for the B finals... I thought I had an insane deck too with 3x ZetaBea, Albert, Amelia, 3x Luminous mage... My first loss was against dragon that just stormed my face off. My second loss was against abyss that played Fediel to clear my Amelia+Luminous mage combo AND reanimate Orthrus to block my Albert.
>>551512519with wilbert crest this+the 2pp 2/2 ward that heals on +stats (wilbert crest) would give you 3/5,2/5,3/4,2/5=10/19 ward board for 7 pp without evo, 14/26 ward board with normal evoeh, decent enough if you wouldn't want to commit aether on an empty board i guesson curve and without wilbert crest this is just dogshit
So they will just dump all spoilers in two days? Crazy
>>551512519At least someone remembered Haven is supposed to be the healing class but they forgot we have no good healing cards like Rune has.
so haven tier3 next expa???cool cool...
>>551514554I'm unironically switching to dragon.
>>551512519anyone if this works when you are full hp
>>551514712it does
>>551514053Sword is surprisingly not that good in t2, which is pretty interesting because it has better card quality on average than all other crafts so you'd think it would be god tier in this format
>>551512519Clearly unplayable
>>551513258or albert
>>551514053>>551514790my best success with sword in t2 has always been unga bunga storm aggro
>>551512519this shit needs elana/elluvia so bad
> All the people qualified to the finals so far>Litteraly everyone on both loot and Dirt except one CHAD on puppet and evo sword Finals will be so fun to watch guys. Such a good and balanced game
do you guys like my spread
>>551512519This reveal gave me cancer. First Arcana that debuffs your already small damage board and now this shit. I don't know what they need to reveal next to make me want to keep playing Haven.
>>551515346Jokes on you. I have 0 portal games.
>>551515317lmaooooo
>>551515317>this is fine
>>551515346>swordshitter deathly allergic to the most based craftMany such cases!
>>551515317looks like a healthy four deck meta to me
>>551515317Chat, is this real?
>>551515420Do you seriously enjoy this class? Feels like the sort of class most players enjoy the idea of annoying others more than they enjoy the actual class itself.
>>551515317Yet when I try loot it's a fucking disaster
>>551515317Whats tourney loot sword wr vs dirt
>>551515317https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXEflH1yXw
Did I miss any card reveals or were the last 2 the haven fox and the turbo furry dragon?
>>551501708Wat folder
>>551516230There's the neutral spell based on the world.
>>551512519fuck we're getting elana back this set
>>551512519>Onset of turn 5>Arena starts to get foggy..>FETCH ME THEIR SOULS
Why are players that aren't yellow not in the finals
>>551515793I liked hybrid gimmicks after they made Birds completely unusable (and made to GM in a week with it this set). It's not like I have one main craft. I keep using few different decks.
>>551515317bo5 will add more flavors
aaah filene-chan...
>>551515317I wouldn't complain if it was 8 evo sword and 8 dirts, but I won't stop complaining about lootfaggotry until it rotates out
>>551516954shut the fuck up runenigger
alright now that they revealed the trailer for the generic dude with the axesurely it's the real ticket next stop dragging this shit
>>551517363next one is himmel (generic dude with the sword)enjoy!
Ward doesn't need more wards, it needs a wincon
>>551514712+0 is still +something
>>551517467>Wolfraud, Haven Legendary. Gain Crest Reversal for however many activations. When your ward followers deal damage to enemy followers, damage is dealt to enemy leader instead.
>>551518145Although, I do like his SV1 effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C8XT5WWuhkShadoba slutdown
when is the new set
>>551518337shadoba gfs
why am i not playing dirt
>>551518337Someone should put these sluts in their place
>>551519026I like Dirt but I'm not playing it anymore because it's kinda slow, I'm actually still doing the GM3 grind.
>>55151838929th
>>551511862Minasis...
>>551511862why didnt they give us the eudie visage too?i'd gladly pay for it...
>>551512519welcome backalso just realized ther replaced a sexy snake with a fucking furry fox
>>551520291>>551512519>literally the same exact card but without the card drawdefend this shadowbabs
>>551520643Age is catching up to him
so what are we doing today???
Why do they keep putting megafags as the battle pass leaders?Literally even Starks trailer passes this homofags 3 days views in 3 hours. And lets not even talk about KMR's black self insert
>>551520643pls understand, haven was good for 1 set. Now every haven card comes pre nerfed
>>551520926playing sv1 take two gp
>>551516675SNOKE
>>551520989They are still trying to attract the non existent female audience
Anyone else getting connection timeouts from time to time last couple of days or is it just me?
they really cheaped out on fuarking servers...
>>551521583is the tablet virus
Well?
>>551521868my fuarking GOAT yuuri of course
>>551521868Reroll has evo sword, so he's got my vote for the novelty
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if you make the right prediction on [redacted] youd make a whole lot more than one pack
>1/8 chance to get a FULL packcygenerous
>>5515225731/1 chance for a guy like me
>>551521713I'm getting it in the main menu
>>551521868>>551522350Tomorrow is already the last day?>Short>Rune/Sword meta is trashThe hype...
>>551521868LCQ champ
>>551523102That's gonna be some havensissy pushover since all metafags already qualified
>>551521868>>551522350Now that MingiGOD is gone, I'll vote for another korean: DNF ReRoll
>>551521868If the LCQ Champ is using anything but Loot then him, else Reroll.
>>551523260i believe
>>551521868agunomu or shincha
im gonna stream my GP finals, i hope svg comes and watch!!
>3x forest in a row when I switch to dirt
balanced meta
>>551524280Sure
darn
>>551524283But why do I never get rune enemies when using forest?
new dragon leggo4pp 1/3[fanfare] Select two enemy followers on the field and deal them 3 damage.[super evo] Select an enemy follower on the field and destroy it. Draw one card.[invoke] When you play a follower which base cost is 8 or more, invoke this card to your field. Remove all other copies from your deck.
>>551524280do a /svg/ chat draft
TWO DAYS LEFT
https://x.com/karatachiroyal/status/2004288540075823127
>>551525163Or I could just swipe (which I will probably do next set)
>>551524553bullshit but i want to believe in ho-chan
>>551524283deserved
>>551525085deal
adult kokkoro collab when?
>>551525163I can't wait to roll for Eudie next set with my unpaid gold saving that I've been diligently since release f2p-bros!!!
im depressed again
think of shadowverse :)
im depressed again but with a boner
Telling someone depressed to "think of shadowverse" is the same as giving a gun to someone suicidal
>>551525160
steamy shadoba sexo
>>551520989I've opened it only to downvote.
cqcq sounds like an ultra cuck
odds of wolfraud being the other leader of the set?
>>551527281>Muri muri muriiiiiiii
i love how loot can just run pieces of a completely different otk in their deck
>>551526059Probably the set after the next oneAt least before the evo package rotates out
>>5515281750
>5 months of daily aggroabyss grindIs this autism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At8oiEb_opg
>>551528732yaho~~
I used up all my luck before the final stage.It's over
>>551528732>tfw no shadoba gf
dont share my private messages
npap time
noba hasnt streamed in months
he got tired of outting cheaters in this kusoge
>>551529278>4 belials>without extra rerollsmy brother in christ what the fuck
Sakakibara status?
>>551512519Garbage
is the stark visage totally useless?? you can probably cospaly as him with the clothes avaiable in the gametells you alot about frieren generic designs
>>551528732i think they like the game
>>551531426Your obsession with frieren is unhealthy.
>>551531201He thinks new Haven follower is SS-tier
>>551531712has he ever been right?
>>551531683i was just checking the trailer and came to that conclusionsorry for trying to discuss shadowverse
>>551531752When he said that anyone complaining about 2pp benis is a topaz-shitter
>>551515317This is depressing
>>551532062
>>551532229baseeeeed!!!!
>>551531712He will be s tier if heal haven actually becomes a thing. But you cant just slap in a card that needs multiple heals into a class that doesnt heal that way. Only rune has that potential because of the Cag spell
>>551515317Apologize
>>551532062and he was right, the nerf ended up being stupid, even in the last set there was more than just loot and dirt.
I'm so tired...
castrate all lootnigs
Benis was nerfed because it was the only card in the game that neutered lootslop's brown gameplay of going face every turn.
>>551532853loot would still rape haven even without benis nerf
>nerf benis>now spellboost is unplayable because they predated on crest>and now roach is much weaker because they predated on spellboost>now all the midrange decks that beat roach are not viable over the night>all of this just because they refused to nerf albert odin sinciro stormslop and choose to nerf benis insteadI told everyone this would happen when the nerfs happened and you called me SCHIZO and RETARDED
kill yourself runigger
>>551533215>and you called me SCHIZO and RETARDEDI hardly see anons saying those buzzwords in this general desu
kill yourself banigger
>>551533215turn the stream on retard
>>551533215We should've listened
>>551533215Yeah I don't know why Haven gets 1 card and it gets EMERGENCY nerfed while sword ruins the game.
>>551533423after the reset
>>5515336141 healing card*
>petcraft is meta for the game's entire life time>*crickets*>non-petcraft is meta for 1 second being a mild nuisance to petcraft>NERFNERFNERFNERFNERF
>>551533868Do you know that dirt rune is only viable because all the dirt rune counters get totally raped by loot??
>>551533215>all of this just because they refused to nerf albert odin sinciro stormslopHello Norman, A>alk about portal and kill yourself runenigger
>>551533215Roach could have improved to counter dirt the way they countered spellboost. But they decided that forest deserved 0 good cards this set and they have only added 4 cards that they actually use since set 1.
Why do they hate us?
>>551533976I was talking about loot but didn't have appropriate image saved
I am on a losing streak and I am tilted, but I need to finish the battlepass.
roach is not even that good against dirt. its the same as it was with crest, if dirt highrolls the midgame you still just lose
There isn't enough design space to nerf sinciro.
>>551534024Puppets beats dirtEvo sword beats dirtRoach beats dirtGuess what these 3 decks have in commonThey get anally fisted by lootRune is not really the problem, Sit down for a second and think about all the decks that cannot exist just because loot is an archetype
Notice how lootniggers immediately deflect to other crafts when they get called out on their disgusting deckNotice how during sets 1-3 all swordniggers deflected to spellboost and how it will ALWAYS be tier 0 until dclimb rotates out but now that spellboost is meme-tier and dirt is better they just say "rune" instead and roll with it
>>551534289I used 2 GP tickets to get the "Play 20 GP matches" mission. It's a huge boost
>>551534347That's not true at all, roach can answer everything dirt doesAlso comparing decks in a high roll scenario is beyond stupid, the reality is dirt loses most of the time vs roach
>>551534385theres no need to nerf sinciro
they need to add sex into this game im so bored
>>551534486>Evo sword & Puppets fisted by lootPills
do you guys really have nothing better to do than to respond to someone who doesn't play the game
>rune is not really the problem
>>551534547Thank you, I will give that a try. 3 hours left, I better get to it.
>>551534486You don't get it, sword DESERVES to have a deck with a strong early curve that can play the meme jerry stone, 20 storm cards, 7pp wipe the board 12 storm damage and albert
You know you are trying to argue with disingenous retards when they are complaining about norman LITERALLY the only card that can outheal the bullshit loot burst
I was scrolling through the thread catching up to the tournament via text posts and there’s a shit ton of mentions for knightly ardorI’ve never seen this card in 2 months? Is this a secret tournament tech, like the illusory spell that was 2pp random destroy follower against sword trying to cheese with stealth valse last set?
>guys you dont understand you HAVE to gut sword so that my t0 deck (with answer and game plan for everything) will have a counter (teehee)
>>551535332terminal case of not playing the game
>>551535401I was out having Christmas party with friends…
>>551535541its ok i havent actually been playing either but 1x has been meta for like 5 weeks
>>551535541go back friendnorm
>>551535332it is a card that when played it mindbreaks youyou will remember these times you lose to this shit
>>551535380sword is t0.5 trying to contest rune position so yes it needs a nerf in the eyes of cygay
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i misplayed
>>551535052>meme jerry stoneBest card in the game>strong early curveOnly heaven suffer in early
nerf both rune and surd, problem solvedNEXTO
is Loot even viable without the stone? they need the card draw to get their pieces in hand
>>551535380>why people are not playing decks that counter dirt
>>551535972It would be a lot worse that's for sure, this card is incredibly broken for lootThe stone was a mistake honestly, it's never used for anything healthy for the game they should nerf it hard
>>551534640Roach cant consistently deal with rune playing tempo and also clearing Normans and at the very best it's a 6-4 matchup that swings into being a 3-7 matchup if roach doesn't highroll. Any damage that forest lets through means they are just going to die to Sandalphon on turn 8.If the matchup was as one sided as it was for roach vs dclimb then people would bring it even if it had other bad matchups instead it's a barely above average matchup in exchange for roach having the worst matchups in the entire game for everything else.
aaaaaaaaa i misplayed again
>>551536096crest related?
>>551535910We know but balance team refuses to do it for some reasons
COUNTER DIRT
>muh rune counterroach folded to literally everything in the rage tourney last set, lost both of its game to fucking spellboost beatdown lmao. the pros finally caught on to it being dog shit now so nobody is stupid enough to bring it anymorenorman is totally a fair and balanced card
shadoba 3: worlds even beyonder will fix everything
>>551536094>If the matchup was as one sided as it was for roach vs dclimb then people would bring it even if it had other bad matchups instead it's a barely above average matchup in exchange for roach having the worst matchups in the entire game for everything else.You answered the reason why people don't bring roach yourself, the deck is slightly outdated and outside of rune has abysmal matchupsBut you're downplaying how good the matchup is for roach, it's not 80-20 like ward vs roach but it's good enough to be considered a big counter matchup.It's very easy to see why dirt is so strong in current environment: it has one of the best matchups vs loot and all of its "bad" matchups are shit decks that no one plays.The other anon had a point, even though dirt is probably the strongest deck right now the reason why it's doing so good is because loot warps the entire meta around itself. It's such a dogshit awfully-designed deck it almost makes me miss other CCGs.
loot makes me miss full power Malice and Snake Eyes
>>551536669>warps the entire meta around itself>Dirt 60%+ playrateHuh
Never forget that they wasted an entire set on trying to make evo forest a thing and shilled it as the main evo deck of the expansion with all the new evo tutorials teaching you specifically how to play it and not any other evo deck. Then they made it so shit that they had to buff two brand new cards a month into the expansion and it is still so shit that buffing those cards did absolutely fucking nothing to fix the deck.
>>551535972pretty certain you could replace it with grandjeetas/emilias with minimal damage to the deck (people already tried these sort of builds)main reason why playing a 3pp do nothing rock goes unpunished is due to retarded power level of answers the deck has against the only thing capable of contesting them board presence. just healing sucks ass, you'll fucking die to albert if you try to simply stall
>>551536965Puppets are way less popular than it should be because loot existsCrest is less popular than it should be because loot existsRoach is even less popular than it should be because loot existsIf loot didn't exist other decks that happen to have good fighting chances vs dirt would be more prevalant and therefore would indirectly nerf runeI know it's tough for room temp IQ swordbabs to see further than the tip of their brown nose but make an effort bro
>1 elf (the izudia meme guy)you would think that dirt "counter" would at least see some play
>>551537201>you'll fucking die to albert if you try to simply stalllol