Shar's Fire Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>551228296
first for gale & minthara
I wanna play a Barbarian but also use Karlach in my party. Any other classes that'd fit her thematically, or do I just go lmao2barb?
>>551544810Barbarian is fun so keep her that
>>551544810fighter or oath of vengeance paladin
Playing this game after watching the new avatar movie has been a blessing Lae'Zel is everything I have ever wanted
Sating Bae'zel, sating Mizora
>>551545925
>>551543109That's why I don't like Act1 so more lately: the first couple runs there's mystery and novelty about these places, when in reality they don't really matter that much in the grand scheme of things and like you said, they're just background plates for other storiesAct 3 feels more consistent, and the location, the city of Baldur's Gate, is rich with history and meaning
>>551547236ugliest character in the game after halsin
>>551547326You don't have to attach a picture of your latest doll to every worthless post you make like an attention whore. This is called avatarfagging, and it's against the rules. Oh, but do spice it up with some slop of the companions (>>551542574) every now and then - that's still shitting up the thread, but it's at least within the rules. Fucking faggot pig.
Brave heroes rescuing Mizora from the squidpod.
>>551548017if i were there i would impregnate her there
I'm pretty sure it's the first time I posted her here, but I'm sure a ban evading, gore spammer would know more about ban worthy offences than me.Speaking of silly stuff, I'm not sure what the FUCK is going on but some of the mods I'm using changes a few encounters: now there's a "third wheel" guy in the barn with the ogre and bugbear?Lmao what is this, Sharess Caress?>>551548017If she really smiled like that my soul would be hers in an instant, contract and all
I'm sure Yonas is fine...
>I'm pretty sure it's the first time I posted her hereThe pig lies as easily as it breathes.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550922510/#551087175https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550922510/#551088770https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550922510/#551122119 https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/551544393/#551547326Same resolution, same face, same eye color, same scars. Same fucking slop. Must be a different attention whore!
wise frog
https://rpghq.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3839https://ayakamods.com/mods/no-alphabets.135/Which one should I use to remove all the fags?
>>551550219To be fair I really didn't like the old haircut really , now feels more "cleric-y" if it makes any sense. This should be the "definitive" edition, short hair can be cute when done right!>>551550369>Have you become the SlayerDurge>or has a Slayer merely found a host too weak to evict it?OrinThere's a good amount of foreshadowing, wether intentional or not, in the very first part of the game
>already changed its doll's haircut>still spamming slop of the companionsThe swine is such a valuable regular! Let's talk about Act 1. Or Act 2. Or Act 3. The swine can discuss anything, especially itself!
a toast to bg3 & divinity
>>551551036Technically the Slayer is an aspect of Bhaal which is why he can take it from Durge as easily as he can mindbreak Orin. Strange Ox on the other hand is a truly free murderhobo all along.
>>551551545I really miss not having 'Speak with Animals' ready on the go in Act 1, there's a lot of cool and random stuff going on at the Grove. Playing some classes really spoils your experience, now I get why Paladins get mad.
swen is still getting cooked for using ai on twitter but nobody said a peep when they used AI for data gathering during bg3's early access
>not only it is a concentration spell>not only it requires a lvl 3 slot at minimum>not only it is a single target spell>not only it can only be cast in melee range>not only it has a shitty WIS saving throw>but its effects are also dogshit and are either outclassed or are on par with lvl 1 spellsfascinatingmaybe i will try the skip turn curse since it should last for 10 rounds, but i'm pretty sure that HVTs will resist it 95% of the time or are outright immune to it cuz lol fk u
Bard of the Frontiers!!
SHADOWBABYYY
>>551553389b-but Mizora....
>>55155289720 level Paladins or Eldritch Knights use that. On tabletop. Larian went really soft with the curses in this game, you will never get curse spammed by group of kobolds at level 3
Minthara and Shadowheart are making out again
>>551552897https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbW7zL-Is6o
I think I'm gonna play swashbuckler again
>>551555261We need more
Justice for Vlaakith CLVII.Girlboss creates an eternal empire in the Astral and Physical planes only to potentially lose it to some chud "Prince of the Comet?" More like, "Prince of the Can't!"
>>551556510
So the Underdark is the worst part of this game, right?
>>551560391if you consider grymforge part of the underdark yeah
>>551551007WHICH??
>>551556510Big if true.
>>551556510>some gith steals a greek name and claims to be the real heiryepget squidded
>>551556510Don't you mean>prince of the vomit
Playing a gith in this game sucks the same way playing a wizard sucks
>>551562490why
>>551563397just frogschizo things
>>551563397nta but i assume because you have Gith the Character as a highly featured origin to do all the githwork for you like how gale's Wizard the Character
>>551563397It's a roleplay thingYou don't want to be some wizard, you want to be the most powerful wizard, savior of baldurs gate. But then there's this dude who's traveling with you who literally fucked the goddess of magic, also he became a wizard godSame for giths. Lazel is the gith party member and the one the characters react to, you're just along for the ride
>>551560558We don't serve your kind here. See, you start to normalize this garbage and pretty soon even pigslop becomes normalized.
>>551563857>>551563973autism. Im playing a necro wizard rn, just don't use Gale. Same for Laezel.
>>551564287That's fine, you own the game and can play it how you want. Hope you enjoy your run
>>551564287There are so many ways to play a wizard, if you want to be a necromancer or a bladesinger Gale is pretty distant from that niche.
>>551556453It’s nice, but I prefer some Shadow’zel
>>551562490Yeah, you’re better off just playing Lae’zel and Gale if you want the Gith or wizard experience.
>>551561809It was right fucking there and I didn't see it.I'm genuinely a little ashamed of myself.
>>551556510I ain’t letting no lich bitch use my frog wife as a Wish battery.
>>551563973The whole world just has to revolve around you, doesn't it? You have to be the world's biggest narcissist. What a stupid roleplay concept.
If the druids were supposed to have murdered Isobel with the Sorrow glaive in the dropped storyline, kind of odd they'd have murdered the dog too since it's an animal that doesn't know better and so on.
>>551551545>>551561503is she a drow? which skin color is that?
>>551568750It's speculation based on old development.There's also a scrapped storyline where it's outright stated that Balthazar killed Isobel and shifted the blame onto Aylin.The final game gives no answer how Isobel died, she herself doesn't even know.
>>551568837Yes, Lolthsworn with a darker dusk tone. Think I came up with a satisfying little backstory to justify a lolthsworn female being warlock too.
>>551565516Why don't we have a ship name for Karlach x Minthara? Should it be Karhara? Minlach?
>>551572606Minlach sounds better
>>551560391>>551560479Grymforge was certainly enough to convince me to never go the Underdark way ever again. I did it once and I've always went the Mountain Pass way since.
>>551572606because it's a stupid ship
>>551573687Really? I love the Underdark. It’s one of my favorite places.>>551574490Yeah, I struggle to see any point of connection between those two.
>>551570367A Lolthsworn really doesn’t need much special justification for being a Warlock. Pacts for power aren’t uncommon for them.
Is it gay to have sex with female raphael
>>551581402is the female raphael pegging you?
>>551581591No...
>>551581591Everything you people do is gay
Missionary with Astarion
Durge murdering me but in a cute way.
>>551583020Thank you.
>>551585713a radiant beauty full of life, and i guess the sunrise is there too
>>551585865She’s the best. Out of all the ladies in this game, I didn’t expect to love the angry space frog the most.
Redrew Shart on a larger sketchbook, but she's kinda looks too thicc and the wolf too much like Scratch...
>>551588832oh fuck i will never mobile post again
>>551588248yep, a miracle of the universe if you will
I just wanted to say that I love my wife.
>>551591387Name three things you love about her that are non-physical.
>>551591387…are you seriously obsessed with a basic bitch player character you made yourself?
>>551544810Make her a monk. It’s hilarious.
>>551592245She's great with kids.
>>55155280490% of AI outrage is purely performative
>>551593742proof?
The post an ugly woman and self-reply with “Name three things…” bit is /bgg/‘s version of “I wanna smooch her”
>>551594818I’m new to this general. What’s the deal with that guy?
>>551595013He’s autistic as hell. He will also post “I love my wife.” among other stale bits
>>551595178Lame. I make better looking characters on a whim.
>>551522367>>551519529>Frog irlPost more
>Look at BG3 videos>People complaining about Hyena fights and shit like thatImagine not knowing about SMOKEPOWDER kekmao
>>551595758I once opened the House of Grief fight with Lae’zel shooting six smokepowder arrows. It was satisfying.
Where can I find the Strongbox in the Zhent lair in Act One, if I rescued Rugan?
>>551600032Honestly, I’ve never looked.
Every time Gale dies turn 1 of combat take a shot
A question: I'm about to rescue Sazza from the Grove. She's going to lead me to the Goblin Camp and Minthara. Will I have to defeat the goblin leaders, or will I be able to head to the swamp and uncover Kagha's treachery?I guess I'm asking which I should do first: goblin camp or swamp?
>>551605354goblin first
>>551606151Can you explain why?
>>551606151>>551606476He's wrong; investigate Kagha first, then deal with the goblins.
>douse Karlach in water to kiss her>btw since you can't fug me you're welcome to go bang other chicks until we get my issue sortedKarlach wife material
>>551605354Kagha first. If you kill Dror Ragzlin before completing the grove quests, it cancels them early. However you are safe to clear the rest of the camp including Minthara and Glut, just don’t kill Dror Ragzlin as he is the trigger. Save him for last
>honour mode>game bugs out and forces me to “slide into the shadows” at the zhent hideout >kinda ruins the missing shipment quest, so I decide to just open the flask and fight the beholder to end it and get some XP anyway >fight is going fine. 3 of my characters are full HP, the last one is 3/4ths, while the beholder is getting low >use command halt on him when he’s a good 20 meters from everyone, just peppering him with ranged attacks >don’t even worry about his legendary action, because he can’t move and he’s so far away >it goes off and hits EVERYONE, even Laezel who was fucking miles away >kills 3 of the team, leaves one alive but paralyzed who he promptly kills the next turn >honour run over Jesus Christ. Did I just get insanely unlucky? I can’t believe he even hit us, let alone killed everyone. He didn’t move, just did a laser light show across the entire fucking battlefield.
>>551591387Sex with Dal
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/baldurs-gate/baldurs-gate-3-started-on-top-and-kept-on-climbing-larian-said-it-wouldnt-make-a-sequel-then-drip-fed-us-an-expansions-worth-of-free-updates-into-2025/
>>551591387She murdered a child.
Is it worth respeccing into druid temporarily in order to get the Pale Oak?
>>551594818Dalyria is an attractive woman. So is Blaze Elin. And so is the nameless elven woman photographed by untitled anon. This is hardly an uncommon opinion. Real beauty doesn't need to beg for attention. Don't forget to compliment the pigslop.
all your gimmicks suck
>>551612969Based and true
>>551613048Showing appreciation for beauty and disliking attention whores like the swine are hardly "gimmicks," and such an assessment reveals a lot about you.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/551228296/#551536487Even when it feigns interest in some piece of game lore - thereby wasting the time and effort of that one anon who is too nice for their own good - the swine cannot help but post obnoxious slop and revert to its true nature, that of an attention whore. Slopping up the companions and cheating by doubling the party size ARE gimmicks, by the way. The overwhelming majority of posters, past and present, are not nearly that desperate for attention.
just realized something madi can make everyone a bard and 4 extra short rests
>>551552804I feel like they were waiting for an excuse to shit on swen first it was wyll and now it's AI
>>551616395It's the Jews targetng Sven because he made good game without DLC, remember when that shit happened with Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 too, it's artificial outrage built by bots to make them look bad
>found minthara in dos2neat
>>551619648shadowheart also voices a lot of minor characters including a talking chest in the act 2 tavern
>"The level of agency that we're going to give you is very, very high—much higher than what happened in BG3. At least that's our ambition," Vincke said. "And this is agency at pretty much all levels, so it's at the narrative as well as systems level. That makes it our most ambitious. It's the biggest game that we've ever made.
>>551594818>>551613048These are 2 different people though, you'd have known that if you weren't such a newcutie
>>551612258Last I checked, it was the curse her father put on her that killed her
4x Bards of Swords
>I AM FURY>I AM DEATH
>>551624259A band.
Drow Selune ClericDomain of Lifeshadowheart handholding
>>551594192
>>551612969>this ugly Tav that has been reposted 200000000 times and inspired 0 positive engagement excepting obvious self-replies >People commonly think this character is attractive.Oh so you’re just upset that HIS Tav gets fanart while your uggo gets ignored
>>551633291>Oh so you’re just upset that HIS Tav gets fanart while your uggo gets ignoredthere's a reason nobody wants to draw that tav yuck
>>551633474damn, now that's fucking ugly
come on swen
>>551634757Hm.
>>551632857converting shart to selune with your big futa drow cock
>>551635948
>>551635948Viconia already brainwashed Shart with her drow futa cock though
>>551636495what has been done with drow futa cock magic can be undone with drow futa cock magic.
Divinity might be bigger and better but BG3 will always have a special place in our heart
>>551579948Depends, males and commoners have a bit more freedom but highborn women are usually railroaded into priestesses and paladins. A warlock patron outside of Lolth's approved demons gaining influence in Menzoberranzan would likely trigger Lolth, even other evil drow gods are barely tolerated there.
is Monk worth it Act I?
>>551637852Yeah because you get to go WATAAAAAAAAH HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYAH whenever you unarmed strike or flurry blow themVery fun
>>551638101shut the fuck up
>>551636708who will fix Viconia?
>>551639417Me! Me!
>>551633474You don't have to keep posting this abomination. You shit up the thread enough, parasite.>>551633291>and inspired 0 positive engagementI find it interesting that the dishonest swine and "people" like you lie so brazenly, even though the archive is right there and it is trivial to prove you wrong. Are you simply incapable of being honest? Is it a mental disorder? Am I Untitledanon, the anon who loves Untitledanon's creation, Mintharafag, the Shadowfag, and anyone who ever posted beauty in your little delusion?https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/455067712/#455076763Two positive replies.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/460423156/#460445593Four positive replies.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/474825182/#474847103Two positive replies.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/492330890/#492347225Four positive replies.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549102717/#549527753Four positive replies.Meanwhile, no one actually gives a shit about the swine's slop - in its latest run, it already found four pretexts in early Act 1 to avatarfag like an attention whore, to everyone's complete indifference. Shadowheart approved of reading a book - better share my avatar for no reason! (See https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550922510/#551122119) You forgot to compliment the pigslop.
what in the schizo is going on
most goonable fem gnome face?
>>551642879Even in a dying general, some "people" still feel compelled to attack beauty. I don't really care about slander directed at me - I've been accused of being so many different posters at this point - but attacking Untitledanon's beautiful elf or validating ugly pigslop is not acceptable. It's a matter of principle.
>>5516421930 fanartand yes, obviously. it isn’t exactly hard to tell. i’m sure everyone present can agreeI also said “excepting self-replies” so this was a complete waste of your time. there are also some veiled insults you’ve included as positive engagement but that’s just the fault of your super autism >but how about this other guy he gets genuine positive engagement and fanart. you don’t. cry about it
>>551642193It's crazy how beautiful high elves are
>>551643994can you please stop shitting up the general with your schizoslop
>he's still going
>>551612969every anon here makes this face extremely hideous expect whoever posted these screenshots
>>551645363Playing in 4k resolution on ultra settings helps a lot, I reckon
Should I go Tiger Heart or Bear Heart?
>>551645618no gooners here have no sense of beauty
>>551645363>>551645821You are so fucking retarded lmao
>>551645673you are an cuck if you go anything but Giant in current patch, i understand going berserker for 4 levels and respeccing to gian tat 5
>>551646005You are the retard. M*ntharafag is a prime example of making that face ugly or that guy with the ugly muscle drow
starting a solo honor run with trickery domain shart. no respecing. no multiclassing. how fucked am i?
>>551646148I wanna talk to animals though.
>>551646310Your blonde butch looks like shit too btw. Sorry
>>551646449not my screenshot you retard
>>551646569Slapping a man cut on that ugly face doesn’t do it any favors. Not sure why mentally challenged autistics are so obsessed with it. Look at this virgin: >>551635139
>>551646759Calm down, spaz
>>551646917are you in your mid 30s lmao
>>551644260>I also said “excepting self-replies”Yes you did, because you're very smart. So, I'm Untitledanon - who samefagged in all these instances. And the anon who loves Untitledanon's high elf. And probably many more. An interesting theory (delusion). Can I be Mintharafag too?>so this was a complete waste of your time.I disagree. It gave me an opportunity to establish the truth. Falsehood is the weapon of the mind flayer... and of the dishonest pig. It gave me an opportunity to post beauty. That is sorely needed at times when "people" like you champion ugliness. What is it about beauty that scares you SO much?
>>551646395>solo honor run with trickery domain shartwhy tho
>>551647213Are you retarded?
>>551647213lol the zoomer mad
>>551647224>>551647350>>551647470These posters were born with multiple birth defects and below average IQ. Pray for them
>New to BG3>Wonder why everybody hates Gale>By Act 2 every scene with him is like watching the DM repeatedly put me in awkward sexual situations with someone else's OCI get it now.
>>551647682Trvth Nvke
>>551647682you were born in 2005 ick
>>551647697rolan is so much better than gayle
>>551647697He used to rape you in the magic scene
>>551647697Gale's a great companion if you want to romance him. Otherwise he's the best Origin to start as
>>551647697>average conversation with Gale when not romancing him
>>551647224>40 IQ schizobabbleok I win I guess. get back to me when you’re ready to have an adult conversation
>>551648121I wish they let you customize the appearance of companions like in dos2 there's no way I'd play as vanilla gale or wyll
Oh. I’m noticing.
>>551647269because it seems nigh on impossible kek
>>551648318no you can't make wyll white
>>551648318Gale is a handsome white man, what's wrong with him?
>>551648596>>551648575I don't care about them being handsome or white I like to customize my characters, looking my my companions is weird
>>551648557good luck I think I would go insane
>>551648864Well, you can always use mods for that. Me personally, I just think that I'm literally Gale.
Spare or kill Kagha?
It "anonymously" repeats its subhuman joke.>>551648316You shamelessly lied, and when caught and exposed with archival evidence, retreated behind a spineless "that was samefagging" cope. This is what you have to offer, and it's not much. You are STILL forgetting to compliment the pigslop, by the way. That's no good. You have to do a better job at being a performative sycophant.
>>551649494it was samefagging. it wasn’t subtle either. if you weren’t literally retarded i would accuse you of running a bit 0 fanart :/
>>551649492Spare. Don't knock her out, the game bugs and considers her dead (even though her knocked out body appears in places where she is supposed to have interactions later).
>>551649509are your tav and shadowheart taking turns beating on astarion?
>>551649202>self-inserting as Galethis is the trve ICK
>>551650504I just want to fuck Mystra
>>551650605bland ass goddess
>>551648318Only vanilla wyll is recongizable tho
>>551626824she is cute
>>551650989and also my wife
>>551649509my poor suffering husbandI’d roll a cleric next time just to heal him
>>551649509>when the 8str male tries to kick the door down
>>551650605she looks like a charlatan
>>551651764....did janny really?
Would you buy a controller like this, butt with Astarion theme?>>551655939Mizora is the new janny
>>551651005Another benefit of killing Karlach
>>551656903boned
>>551657178who's that handsome man behind bae'zel?
>>551657557that's minthara, he's a joke character
>>551657557Looks like Ketheric Thorm after an another resurrection.
Minthara should've been Shadowheart's competition, but alas...
kagha>halsinnere>mintharaaradin>wyllrolan>gale
>>551659068cute
Who's taking over the pub after the shadow curse is removed? Isobel is probably the legal owner of Thorm properties but probably does not have time or interest.
>>551660614Mizora will transform it in to futa Drow brothel.
>>551661154The Bordello Calarel
Oak Father preserve us all.
I love Shadowheart. Especially her butt. All of her, but especially her butt.
>>551662103I wonder if Kagha would have been able to restore Thaniel.
>>551662330I LOVE HER LIPS AROUND MY COCK OH YEAH MHMMMM
>>551662330I love Shadowheart. Especially her bush. All of her, but especially her bush.
>>551663349What about her feminine penis?
>>551663349Same, I like the detail. If she has a bush she probably has sparse butt crack hairs, though the game doesn't allow for canon verification unfortunately. But it's obvious.
half orcs need more love
>>551664102Do you ever feel the slightest pang of guilt for sexualizing your wife to such an extent?
>>551665824No, of course not. She's my wife, obviously I want to fuck her. What a retarded concept, "sexualizing your wife" you might as well be nametranny
>>551612387No, but it's worth it to be declared Faithwarden.
>>551665824Shadowheart is polygamous, no need to feel guilty about sexualizing her as your wife.
larian can do the funniest thing if they make all of their future companions poly
Shart wouldn't be god's favourite princess if she didn't have that effect on people.
>get into fight with zhentarim after blowing most of them up>accidentally pull too many of them into the fight>pop invis potion>get revealed from invis by enemy>get frightened by wolves and can't movethank GOD for sanctuary
companion durge would have sold a lot of DLCs...
I love shart too. I love that when you ask her if she's interested in halsin, she tells you she's already been daydreaming about having sex with him many times before you asked. what a rascal she loves to joke around like that
>>551668958>I love shart too.you finally admit that you still like her
>>551668958she was just joking. she's loyal to me
Y'all could just not bring Halsin to the brothel instead of seething for years. If you keep this up the poly cast of Divinity will give you heart attacks.
>>551668958I unironically did like this part. I am a cuck so it was written for me. more games should have romances that appeal to a wider variety of tastes like this. I liked the other scene where she tells you to have sex with him and tell her about it even more since that's what I would have said to her too
>>551669505the camp scene where she tells you to have sex with him even if you haven't asked the question yet you just said you spoke to halsin was even better than the brothel scene. her taking the initiative to introduce cuck content in her romance without you even having to ask was pure kino
>>551669930This. Why don't those who seethe about poly just not rebuff Halsin before speaking to Shadowheart?
>>551669930But anons here told me to just not take him to the brothel. they even said it again right before your post. how is that possible that there's another scene where she's eager for you to have sex with halsin if people told me you can just not take him to the brothel?
>>551668958haha! what an adorable sillyhead she is!
>>551670210she was just joking there too.
>some anon posts shart>cue the regular spam and seethingguys these are fictional characters. touch grass
>>551669483I hope there'll be more poly romances too I wanna see how graphic the sex scenes will get just to piss off some schizos here
>>551669930Why does that make you angrier than the brothel scene? You literally have to walk up to Halsin and tell him you want to suck his dick, then ask Shadowheart about it. You bring in up in dialogue first.
>>551632857>Drow Selune ClericBased, but Eilistraee>Domain of LifeWar Domainwtf playing a cleric is...fun? I think I'll multiclass into Bladesinger too but I never played as a Cleric before and the RP bits are kinda neat
Hey cool, another toadcel freakout
red prince was poly in dos2 and you can find poly couples in act 3 too btw larian doesn't givea shit about prudes
>that doesn't exist>okay it does exist but it's only one scene>okay it is actually two scenes but you have to initiate it>okay she actually does volunteer in the camp scene without any convincing but you still have to speak to her to hear her say that>okay it doesn't exist but here's a mod that removes it but it also doesn't exist but I made this mod to remove it anyway just in caseI have really enjoyed watching the shart cope progression over time. It's been hilarious
>allow me to react to your Tav by talking about mineNot an attention whore, by the way.
Alice, I have great news!
>https://youtu.be/uD58cczNLzI?si=d6uQfkyrY-lRr2dfShadowbaby!
>>551670907Lolth is such a bitch that becoming an Eilistraee worshipper is a good end for any drow, except if you're in Drizzt books where she doesn't exist.
>>551671201no offense but this really shows how much something fictional lives rent free in your head. shadowheart isn't real. lae'zel isn't real. minthara isn't real. they are pixel dollies. they cannot love you. they were all written by old meni know this is like pissing into the wind since its 4chan but jesus
>>551671201>that doesn't existin the way you portray it, sure. true today, true tomorrow, always was true. this is an on-going conversation that really reveals who in the thread has lived who has just regurgitated gay tradcuck memes
>>551667015Having a healthy libido is normal and nothing to be ashamed of. We can certainly muse about the sexiness of Mizora or Orin, or in this case, Shadowheart. But when we do so, we should avoid vulgarity or cheapening a female character to mere masturbation material. This is because we understand that beauty is not only skin-deep, and that what makes a character truly shine - cast a light in the darkness, if you will - is what's inside of them. Their flaws. Their idiosyncrasies. Their grace. Their kindness. Their warmth. It has to do with who the person is. In other words, name three things you like about her that are non-physical.
>>551672197excuse you but he is married to exclusively video games women and they would never dream without his permission.
>>551672197bro needs professional help ong
>>551672707fr
>>551672645Hear hear!
>>551671201"You have to speak to her about it to learn her thoughts on it" is by far my personal favorite. The premise is that it doesn't exist if you don't ask her about it. If you don't ask Gale about the orb, does it not exist until you ask about it? If you don't ask Halsin about the Shadowcurse, does it not exist until you ask about it? Replace asking Shart about her feelings towards Halsin with any other character and any other topic, and you realize how silly this premise is. You have to ask Shart about her feelings towards Halsin in order to learn what she wants to do with Halsin. Yeah, obviously. Just like every character with every topic. It doesn't change what she says when you do ask her. Her answer is what her answer is, regardless of whether you've heard her say it yet or not. This is such a silly defense. "I only learned about that because I asked her what she thought about it". And this is actually stated unironically as some sort of gotcha, that you only know Shart's feelings towards Halsin because you asked her!!! As if that changes what she says. Top comedy.
>>551672948can you at least try to make your samefags not obvious
>>551672645>we should avoid vulgarityPicture this: a sweaty, scandalously young human Paladin girl has just finished her first real adventure away from the convent, and is laying in bed with the love of her life, Shadowheart. She kisses down Shadowheart's back until she is face to face with the Shadowbutt. She gently spreads the cheeks with her thumbs, frozen in admiration at the beautiful sight before giving it a single, timid kiss, causing her wife to giggle. If that's vulgar, so be it. But it is the essence of effective roleplaying.
>>551671794I already played as a Seldarine drow before, but she was a Spore Druid/Monk. I'm looking forward to the drow banter in the Underdark and in act 2 with Minthara. I like how most goblins in Act 1 treat you as an ally just for the drow facecard.The thing is, while I feel like the Eilistraee Cleric is a neat choice, being a Selune Cleric in act 2 would probably have much more reactivity.Oh well, maybe another time.>>551672896>>551659067Kagha had a better character development arc than most of the main cast during Act 1. I would love to see her chuddy face in my party's potraits
>>551673250why do you fags always give Astarion the ugliest hair change
>>551672948>The premise is [not the premise]The premise from cuck fetishists is that she is somehow cucking you by simply being attracted to someone, which is ridiculous to anyone who is a real person and not a cardboard jeet from /pol/. People bring it up to highlight the fact that Shadowheart is only talking about it after you proactively engage her for group sex, and have even invited Halsin along for the conversation. Then you have people who pretend to not understand the difference, because they want to repetitively troll on the same theme for more than two years.
>>551672948holy shit have sex
>>551673612He has to find a virgin girl who is a 9/10 and yet still interested in middle aged obesity and strange smells, but has never been aroused before by another human.
>>551672948To be fair that's what lots of people in real life do when their partner isn't loyal. They pretend it doesn't exist. Don't ask, don't tell. If I don't ask, I can pretend it doesn't exist. It's sad but here we are watching it happen.
>>551673392after a while his Betty White perm gets kinda old
I need to screenshot his posts and show John or something. John needs to see this mental illness
>>551673131>But it is the essence of effective roleplaying.No, that's just erotic fanfiction. Something meant to titillate, not inspire. Your talents are wasted on something that is commonly found in ao3.>>551673392The swine is subhuman. It jokes about Astarion being sexually abused, then slops him up for good measure.>It's fairly easy, see: when Cazador sent Astarion to the kennel to punish him, do you think Godey boned him?>It's a silly double entendre, as "boned" usually refers to a sexual act, but since Godey is a skeleton and when know he has beaten Astarion, the joke becomes a textbook example of absurdism.
>>551674185I want Astarion to rape you with Godey's bones
>>551674185>No, that's justIt's just a fully realized roleplaying experience. This may not be true for many here, but for normal people sex and romance are a normal part of life, and you can't truly be said to have fully inhabited your role if you aren't considering it. It's no different than making sure you bathe at camp, or that you walk rather than run, or remembering that your character should be out of breath after a tough fight. Madden gamers can't get it, I know, but it is what it is.
>>551672948based. sharties being dishonest rats is nothing new
Nametranny is still the number 1 Shartie
>>551674368I'm not the one making light of his sexual abuse. Or repeating the joke. (https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/550536590/#550813536) Or slopping him up for a crumb of attention. Direct your misplaced abuse at the real culprit.
>>551673048>>551673593what's weird is the way they move the goal post. first they lie and say shart "takes the initiative to open the relationship". as far as i know that isn't true. that's why people always respond by saying tav has to go to the brothel and express interest in hookers or has to go to halsin to open their own relationship first. shart doesn't actually take the initiative for any kind of polyamory. that in and of itself implies that she sees it as a fun side activity, nothing more than that. then they say "well she's enthusiastic about it!" alright but thats a different argument. shes a sharran and grew up in a weird death sex cult. noncommittal sex is normal for them so her position there isn't really that strangethen mintharafag comes in and says "well now they're acting like it doesn't exist if you don't talk to her about it". um no, that was never the case
What’s with the schizo melty?
It's one person trying to egg on an argument by taking both sides and leaving intentional gaps in his own logic, but he can't be bothered to change his typing style between personalities. This general deserves a better class of schizo. And I'm going to give it to you.
>>551674884Go on, point out the logical gaps in both sides
He's two days late for his Christmas meltdown. I guess he was waiting for the weekend. How tragic.
>>551674836the divinity orgy made him feel funny down there
>>551674884Nobody actually reads the posts he makes. There is just an awareness that the schizo is speaking, but what about is anybody's guess>I'll be the schizo you didn't ask forNo need, we already have one. He's sleeping right now. He only comes out of his cave in moments of great need
>>551674480It might not even be a case of trying to lie on purpose. They might be convincing themselves that if you don't ask her, it doesn't exist. "Dishonest rat" implies intent to deceive, but it could be simple honest delusion. You see people often, even in this thread, say stuff like "you have to ask her to learn that". They don't say that line about any other topic. When someone asks about Isobel's father, they don't chime in to say "You're only asking about that because you spoke to Isobel!!!". When someone asks about Pale Petras, they dont' chime in to say "You're only asking about that because you spoke to Astarion during him companion questline!!!". Yet when someone asks why Shart wants to have sex with Halsin, they will always quickly chime in to say "You're only asking bout that because you asked Shart about it!!!". For some reason, this topic is suddenly different from every other topic where you have to ask an npc a question in order to learn more about them and their beliefs or feelings. You have to ask Shart about her thoughts and feelings in order to learn that she wants to have sex with Halsin, and somehow, according to these people, that means it's...different from all the other times you have to ask an npc about their thoughts and feelings in order to learn their thoughts and feelings? I think it's just plain old delusion.>>551673778Denial, sure. "I didn't ask her about that topic in my playthrough, so it doesn't exist".
>>551675030But enough about the swine specifically starting a new run for some festive attention whoring.
>>551674967Which is what you're after, but no thanks, I'll wait for you to tear down your own strawman. You might also pose as the namejanny to add fuel to the fire, knowing that the he-she is hated enough to add a little extra oomph to your attempt. It's an old game.
>>551675203Your friend had a baby recently. How does it feel that your buddy had sex with a REAL woman and made a new life while you cry about Shadowheart every single month.
>the little claw gesture he makes when reciting the nursery rhymeI missed this mofo like you wouldn't believe.Best villain in recent cRPGs.
My favorite anon is the one who's convinced everyone is the same person
>>551675591can you post more to drown him out
I kinda like the guy who always needs to exaggerate to make his bad points. Oh, you've noticed my obvious samefag? Well then you think EVERYONE is a samefag. This position I created just now and assigned to you is ridiculous, so that means the things you actually say are ridiculous, and I win.
>>551675203you hit the nail on the head. when you ask shart if she wants to fuck halsin, she says yes and that she has been thinking about it a lot already. most people find that behavior to be unappealing in a partner. the shart fans who say she only says that if you ask her are grasping at straws. she told you how she feels when you asked how she feels. obviously dumbass. we don't like what she said when we asked thats the point. this whole thing is so stupid theyre so pathetic
>>551675881Doesn’t that guy just call you retarded until you get mad?
>>551675881Yes, yes. Toadcel, toadschizo, Mintharafag, Slopfag, Swineschizo, and all the retards that argue with them are the same person. Totally
>>551676143Can you show me your research paper already
>>551675792You can filter the namefag. You can't filter the attention whore that has now decided to adopt a common image resolution, two years in. Thanks for proving that once again, all the attention the pig gets is purely performative or agenda-driven (shitting up the thread).>Raphael is such a great villain because he makes this little gesture
>>551676150He engages in a half-nig zoomer style of trolling where he just pretends to not understand until the other party closes the tab, and then he pretends that people typing the word "retard" at him means they're insane with anger. It's a sort of projection you see most often with low IQ 4chan users who take 4chan really seriously, and so they assume this is the natural state of all other users. They're unable to picture typing "retard" without shaking in anger, and so the idea that another could do this never enters the mind. The working of a normal person's mind is an out of context problem for them.
>>551676723No offense but you seem like you take 4chan seriously
>>551676723I applaud your attempt to stop the dead horse from being beaten, but idea that someone is samefagging an entire argument is ridiculous
>>551677279he's retarded
Another common tactic. They'll identify that you've made statement X as an insult towards them, and rather than show any sort of creativity or critical thinking they'll just repeat it back to you, not understanding context or applicability. Words are just meaningless sounds to them, shapes on a screen that magically get this or that result, so the absurdity never strikes them.
notice how he complains about halsin but doesn't care about shadowheart wanting to bang karlach or the female hooker
>>551677692because he only jerks off to lesbian porn
>>551677337It's not. Happens all the time, on 4chan especially where it's so easy to do. One reason of many every board should at least have post IDs exposed, and the reason behind the ones that do. Replying to themselves is one of the first thing any given tablet kid does when their Roblox discord first collectively discovers trolling.
>>551677529>>551677836Anyone have any idea what this retard is talking about
what do you guys think of my tav
And then in a few moments his phone will agree with him, helping create the false impression of popular support which is very important for this kind of person. Nothing can stand on its own feet without the panopticon weighing in. "Chat, what do we think?" Verification: not required.
Lots of you guys have never provoked the Blade and it shows
>>551678347what a pure noble virginal lesbian
>>551677981No, and it's a waste of time to try to decipher schizobabble.
>>551678515You're the guy who thinks totally different people have the same typing style. They don't, and it's pretty easy to tell the differences between them. Not to parrot the other guy, but you're retarded
>>551672948>>551675203Why does this guy pretend to be manthyfag?
Well would you look at that, on the money again, and again, and again. Almost like I've seen this play out so many times for so many years that I can set my watch to it and recite the script from heart.
>>551678952>someone still has this old screenshot of minenice. accidentally deleted this one ty for reposting it
In a few years, every single line of this game will become a meme, just like the SW prequels.Truly the LOTR of video games.Too bad it will never have a proper sequel or DLC.Seeing Larian still making blogposts about it makes my heart ache a little
>I’ve seen this before. I have been being called retarded for years. You can’t fool me. I have the script memorized. “Retarded.”and then everybody stood up and clapped
THE TESTICLES OF MERCULE
who are yall talking to
me
>>551679280There are easier ways to beg for attention. You could, for example, slop up every companion, cheat and promote cheating, and find any pretext under the sun to talk about your feelings, your drow Tav, your new playthrough, you, you, you. Like the pathetic swine is doing right now. You both seem starved for attention.
>>551679752Bro is NOT smart
Back to "everyone". Everything they do and say is framed around this nebulous third party that is judging (you) harshly. It presumes the panopticon, a result of being given cellphones and social media at too young an age. Their uncaring parents were asleep at the wheel, and you see the results. "Cringe"
>>551671232Did Larian officially change their positions?
>>551680245You seem like a normal guy
>>551680748people kept finding ways to add her to the party despite not destroying the grove so larian said fuck it and allowed everybody to recruit her, it was a terrible idea imo
Noticing the obvious? Saying it? Well uh um you must be weird. Cringe! "Everyone" says it back on the Roblox server. Just wait until my cellphone hears about this following the sixty second captcha cool down. Chat, what do we think????
>>551680748>>551680975she also used to get stuck inside Halsin's end table and both their tent clipped
>>551680748Yeah Halsin walks around now, he can't stand her stink
Say something nice about wyll it's his birthday
Today I learned that there's a long rest dispenser in the House of Hope and I didn't need to rawdog it with short rests like the previous runs.
>>551681830it's better to play the right way anyways
>phalar aluve is recharged by short restlmaobroken ass sword
>>551682107anything meant for bards is bad by default
>>551678556I like Wyll. I think he'd be better if he had some of his earlier anti-goblin edge, but I like his character and his story arc.Unrelated: I've seen images of people having recruited Minthara in act 1; is that possible, or am I looking at mods?
>>551681830There's also one just before the Apostle of Myrkul, and I guess there are some players who somehow miss it because they complain about the fight being too hard when they should be at full resources.
>>551682070It feels balanced for 2 short rests + some side recovery, though this wasn't on Tactician so who knows? "Free" Divine Intervention gives you an extra long rest mid fight anyways.>>551682107>Finesse, Versatile and a broken active on short-rest.It's pretty goated.
>>551681689mizora should have had a bigger role
>>551681830what? i always take a nice bath in Raphael' boudoir>>551682313You can travel back to Act 1 with Minthara with workarounds,and also yes people have been using mods, perhaps it's just a Drow tav with Minthara's face modelshe doesnt really have dialogue options
High Half-Elf Hexblade Warlock, with Pact of the Blade at level 3 to get two attacks at level 5, and then Hexblade 1/Eldritch Knight 5 once you hit level 6.The game's never been more fun for me.
I love Shadowheart, Minthara, Mizora, Arabella, Kagha, even Karlach to some degree. Waifu wars just seem so artificial. Even Bex is nice to think about. Especially Bex.
>>551683412one of those girls is not like the others.
Is there a way to keep Mayrina's brothers alive?
>>551683843Karlach gets a bad rep because of tranny off model r34 types, but she's still a woman and has her charms
>>551683412what the hell is wrong with you man>>551683917you can knock them out, and later Ethel will say they went to "Sutton Farm" and theyre alive and well (they have been turned into sheeps)
Booming Blade is fucking stupid overpowered, Jesus. Literally possible to carry weapons with mediocre stats but strong enchantments into Act 3 with this one cantrip.
>lure the beholder under the selune statues near the selunite outpost >it just heals itself to full while being raped by them because technically it's not in combatfaggot shitstill, it was fun
>>551682313>but I like his character and his story arc.What character? What fucking story arc? The non-character lacks even the agency to decide whether to save his daddy. You would think some sort of motivation to move beyond the do-gooder posturing would be present in this alleged "story arc" you speak of, but it's simply not there. There's more character in Mol, an ambitious child with dangerous aspirations, or story arc with Mayrina, who actually grows from her ordeal, and these are just minor NPCs. Without agency, there can be no characterhood.
wyll has to be the good guy because he's a its just how it goes, chuddiebut in their mindless attempt to portray him as the bestest character, they made him into blandest, most disliked character lolkarma bitch
>rogues are fast and dexterous>and don't get an extra attack
>lacks even the agency to decide whether to save his daddyTo be truly intellectually honest, the choice to save Wyll's father is the only one where he asks the player for an opinion in HIS arc; there are others similar moments for other characters, and they're equally pregnant with meaning: for example, Shadowheart potentially has two moments, if I remember correctly, in which the protagonist can influence her decisions. And that involves saving her Daddy AND her Mommy. Same thing with Gale and the Crown, or Lae'zel and her Vlaakith/Orpheus situation.>but she will make that choice on her own if you spent enough time with her and triggered the right conditionsYes because it's been pretty clear since release day how some characters had more invested writers/had less issues during their creative process.Add to that some blatant "rewrite" moments, and for sheer comparison of difference in amount of writing between him and the main cast members, and he feels like a complete dud. He's a decent character that would shine of his own light, say, in an Owlcat game or in whatever that 'Veilguard' game wanted to be.
No one gives a shit about your porcine drivel.>He was groomed to become a sleeping agent for Mystra>If we talk about character manipulations by deities, Mystra is worse than Shar for how she behaved with Gale.Insipid and time-wasting.
I'm getting to the point where I'm almost considering restarting as Astarion so I don't have to deal with his constant whining.It helps that he's a powerful character, too; those vampire perks are awesome.
>>551689997Gross, Wyllposting.
>>551690707I never actually played any Originbut I've watched many hours of other peoples run and Astarion's, Gale and Shart feel like the most interesting onesthere's also some cool scenes you wouldnt see otherwise
>>551691694Currently and playing Lae’zel origin. It’s fun.
>>551691694astarion's is fun but its such a goddamn scam you can't try to turn your romance into a spawn
>>551678347He looks like a fine gentleman.
https://youtu.be/22CO4NEKQvkLizzerchads it's up
>>551686539Gloom Stalker Ranger mogs every type of Rogue so hard it's not even funny. Not only does it become the defacto nothin personnel kid class when combo'd with Drow or Shadow Sorcery, it's broken too. Turns out combining darkness with true sight and the ability to go invisible for free in darkness and having 2/3 ranged attacks per turn is broken.
Is Astarion the only companion who doesn't disapprove of telling Ethel about the parasite? Do any others give points, or ignore it?
The fact that the game still makes it into Steam's top 10 most played is pretty incredible. Almost hit 100K concurrent too.
>>551695980I hope Larian pumps out one last surprise bug fix. I started playing a week ago, and I love the experience, but there's certainly some jank lingering.
>>551695684hes the only one who approves
>>551695980Yeah, nothing suspicious about that at all...
>>551690730It's what the pig has to offer.
>>551695980It fills the void that old school BioWare vacated.
>>551697257Thanks for confirming my suspicions. We have low rapport, he and I, and I'm trying to raise it without pissing everyone else off.
>>551692106>>551691694>>551690707There's a mod that gives Astarion the Dark Urge questline as well; pretty cool if you were worried about missing out on that content.
how does mizora get captured to begin with when she can just disappear on damage?
>>551699538All you need to do at minimum with Astarion is to not be a comic book hero. He's fine with random quests so long as you open with the notion of getting paid and not doing shit for free. What he absolutely adores more than anything is bullshitting, quick wits, and spamming the [Deception] check.
>>551701287He’s also a fan of settling things violently and just generally inflicting misery on others.
>>551701780True, he's either or. Dagger tongue your way out of a bad situation, or you go murder hobo.
when does bae'zel romance begin?
wish i had a bag of holding
>>551702617Do something suitably impressive to her, and she’ll ask to fuck. I recommend picking a fight with an owlbear.
>>551702870no the real romance, after rosemary incident?
>>551703012in act 2 after the fight with her maybe?
>>551703012In Act 2, she’ll wake you up for a bout of mortal kombat to prove your worthiness. Win or lose, you’ll get to officially be hers at that point. (I recommend lose; it’s a sweeter scene)
>>551702635i have SUCH a headache..
>>551703681Pave my path with corpses. Build my castle with bones.
>>551703012the actual romance starts after midnight wrestling
>>551683412Sex with Bex
>>551703950
ALL IS ASH AND MEAT
>>551704706FATHER! ARE YOU WATCHING?!
>>551704635Imagine Bex's cat
>>551704635“I think you mean ‘gnome’”
>>551699538Put him, Shadowheart, and Lae’zel on the same team, and you’ll generally all be on the same page.
>>551705494This and based. Minthara also slots in great too.
>>551705613The do-gooders are less interesting, anyway. Besides Jaheira; she’s funny.
>>551679732As much as I love bg3, it being one of my top favorites in years, I still think it's going to be essentially overshadowed once Divinity comes out. It will be remembered as a great game that proved Larian still has it and that the crpg genre can be mainstream if it hits certain design aspects which is important, but I think Larian without wotc's shackles is just going to blow their own previous work out of the water.Which isn't putting bg3 down at all. It's actually a great thing that the next game is going to be even better than an already great game.bg3 is already standing the test of time since it's still the 11th most played game on steam on a saturday night, and this is especially noteworthy because if you look at the rest of the list, they're all free to play games that have no barrier of entry. Everyone playing bg3 paid 40-60 usd to do so, so the fact that it is still so high on this list, even after 3 years, and even among so many f2p games, is so incredible. But all of that being said, I think Divinity is going to overshadow bg3 in every aspect: mainstream appeal, mainstream reception, critical reception, and genre enthusiast appeal.
>>551706121nobody read
>>551706071>The do-gooders are less interestingTrue. I told ascended Astarion and Shar Shart that I planned on razing the world with Bhaal, and their reactions were>Yeah right, Shar will still outmaneuver youand>Hah! Let's see who get's to the crown first then!The "evil" characters are just much more well written and flexible
>>551706121its crazy how good a game can feel by the simple act of letting you attack more than once per turn like in dos2 compared to bg3, so glad WOTC will no longer be relevant
>>551706071Puked a little thinking about having Wyll and Gale in my party at the same time. Would decimate the fun factor for sure.
>>551707162Gayle says some dumb shit that can be funny but Wyll has 0 presence.
>>551707109I'm new to the game, am I crazy or do the neutral, stand-offish characters and the evil assholes slowly warm up to you as well if you play a goody two shoes? In Act 1 it's constant "X hated that" but by the later end of Act 2 they aren't anywhere near as negative about it.
>>551544393Is there a mod that makes it so in multiplayer a player can have no avatars assigned? Mainly for the purpose of being able to go afk for a while as a host by assigning my character to a friend
>>551707712>the neutral, stand-offish characters and the evil assholes slowly warm up to you as well if you play a goody two shoes?Thats what I did, you just have to pick less goody options all the time around someone like Astarion. There's a few spots that give you big approval with him also.> Act 2 they aren't anywhere near as negative about it.There's less checks yeah
>>551707712The companions are basically retard-proof. Only majorly heinous acts like raiding the grove will cause certain companions to up and leave. You can completely fuck up their personal quests or just do whatever you feel like generally and they will still follow you.It's much easier to get positive rep than negative, like you have to actively work to make them dislike you
>>551707162Gale, Wyll, Halsin, and Karlach are pretty much my designated camp tenders, if they’re still alive.
>Stand up for Astarion by not letting some sanguine yaoi girl force him to bite her>Get a cutesy lovey dovey handhold scene in the camp, complete with my brain worm acting like a wingman and projecting my character's love straight to himHelp, I'm catching feelings for an effete vampire for real.
>>551708927based and Astarionpilled
>>551699714Dashing frog.
Honestly Karlach is the only companion I think sucks. I like nothing about her besides her tits.Her personality doesn't fit her backstory whatsoever. She's basically got a limited lifespan on the Material Plane, and was a former Lt. of Zariel. She wouldn't be running around being a little goody-goody. She'd be a debacherous slutbag causing havoc and abusing the fuck out of her freedom before being forced to go fight again.
>>551710890I can't get away with her mannerisms. She does not fit the setting at all. Every second line is "fuck this" and every third is "shit that." She talks like a modern day e-girl with no decorum.
>>551711489there's a reason why she is referred to as redditlach
She literally has a few lines that are straight up modern slang or aphorisms. Shit writing.
>>551706121>Divinity is going to overshadow bg3 in every aspect: mainstream appealDoubt. Mainstream appeal is where BG3 will always have Divinity beat, because D&D and the Forgotten Realms are much more recognizable to the average casual than a brand-new setting that is still mostly unknown to the public. D&D is a brand that appeals to anyone who has heard of or watched Critical Role, Stranger Things, or even No Honor Among Thieves. I think you underestimate the extent to which brand recognition contributed to BG3's success.Everyone recognizes the Tolkienesque D&D elves - and their dark cousins who live in the Underdark. Divinity has elves-but-different.Everyone recognizes the red dragon, the beholder, the mind flayer, or the mimic - iconic monsters that have seeped into the collective consciousness. Divinity has generic knockoffs.Everyone recognizes the Paladin, Cleric, Wizard, Sorcerer, Bard, Rogue, and Monk classes. Divinity has classless "you-can-be-anything," which lacks familiarity.Everyone understands 6-second Rounds, Actions, Bonus Actions, Reactions, and d20 rolls. Divinity will likely use shared Action Points for attacks, abilities, and movement, representing a higher barrier to entry.The Forgotten Realms is a much more familiar setting to the vast majority of people through sheer cultural osmosis. The average person has likely never heard of Rivellon.
>>551706121Agreed. Just listen to the crowd pop when the Larian logo appears:https://youtu.be/hFVMyigkPNc?t=156You can't buy this kind of cultural pull.
>>551712664>I think you underestimate the extent to which brand recognition contributed to BG3's successYep. The DnD license practically prints money. People forget that the DnD movie grossed 2 billion dollars on opening weekend, and the last DnD game before BG3, DnD: Dark Alliance, went on to sell 20 million copies, same as BG3 — convenient how no one brings this up.
>>551712664moreover nobody except online crpg nerds care about divinity because its a lame ass setting with a stupid story
>>551710890Yeah, she’s too childish for me to take seriously.>>551711489To be fair, so does Lae’zel. It’s just mostly in an alien language.
>>551714734The thing is Lae'zel comes from a barbaric autistic warrior culture, so her personality and mannerisms fit the notion of insulting everybody and everything deemed remotely soft.
>>551715064Oh, absolutely. It fits Lae’zel. It would fit Karlach if she actually acted like a ten year hell war veteran and not an ADHD-ridden teen Redditor.
Lae'zel is love.Lae'zel is life.Lae'zel a miracle of the universe.Lae'zel might've done some things wrong, but she's still a beautiful person inside and out.
>>551716092
>>551716092cute frog
>>5516865395e Rogues are such garbage.
Rogue is the laezel of classes
>>551719757I can’t tell if you’re complimenting rogues or insulting Lae’zel.
Astarion is the Olive Garden of companions.
>>551721694Overhyped but still really good?
>>551683412>Arabellahol up
>>551712664If a decade ago you asked an average normie Forgotten Realms vs Rivellon, obviously 90% of them wouldn't even know what Rivellon was. But at this point, you have "oh, the guys who made bg3 are making another game? Cool, I'll buy it". It's "the guys who made bg3" that is the draw here, not Divinity or Rivellon.wotc has also burned a lot of goodwill in recent years, while Larian has skyrocketed in both the normiesphere and genre enthusiasts. So the people who are on the border between knowing nothing as a normie and people who somewhat follow dnd and mtg don't like wotc as much as they used a decade ago.And obviously the dnd name helped bg3's success relative to it being some no name setting like Rivellon (divinity games are good, we're talking about in the eyes of normies), that's not what people are saying, but that's not going to hurt Divinity, now that Larian has already made a name for themselves. It's "Larians next game" that people are excited for, not "oh, it's not dnd? I'm not excited anymore". No one is saying that.Basically, I bet that Divinity sells more than bg3.
>>551722935>It's "the guys who made bg3" that is the draw here, not Divinity or Rivellon.correct once again. one might even say they're just like fromsoft
>>551722935I played BG3 because i knew it was being made by the guys that made DOS1-2
>>551723492Kek
>>551635139Not bad. But we can do better.
>>551724836ugly
>>551726413O-ok…
I feel like divinity will sell way more because it will be marketed as the next bg3 and will get way more hyped since millions of people now know larian, hype culture will do the rest of the work
>>551712947Kek
>>551712947oof
>>551722935Of course, the game-from-these-guys-who-made-BG3 is guaranteed to become popular. No one is predicting a flop. But that's more riding momentum than real mainstream appeal, I would say. In a way, the opposite of BG3's situation, where Larian being picked by WotC raised quite a few eyebrows at the time. The game-from-these-guys-who-made-D:OS2 didn't have quite the same ring. I think that the people who supported Early Access were genuinely excited for either a BG or D&D game, and word of mouth did the rest. The setting of Divinity has had several games to develop some worldbuilding and still has nothing to show for it today - hence the soft reboot. This does not inspire confidence. And this is the game that's supposed to dethrone BG just because Larian has a billion to burn now? I don't think so. You can't buy the cultural relevance.>Basically, I bet that Divinity sells more than bg3.Hmm. I'll take that bet.
>>551727604Divinity will absolutely sell more copies than BG3. Larian us now very powerful brand. Unless they will somehow fumble characters it will be money printing machine.
>>551727847it's crazy how embarassing your essays are you really need friends
>>551728384Don't you have some irrelevant Swen tweets to share, parasite?
>>551728680see?
https://x.com/pcgamer/status/2004705268769456239I told you they were using AI during bg3's development too
How good are druids as a main-character class? They're not Charisma-based, which worries me, but I can maybe take Friends as a cantrip as a half-elf.
>>551729125They're pretty bad. You have to dismiss your Wild Shape form before you can talk to NPCs. They're shit in social situations because they don't get a single useful proficiency. Friends is unreliable, and can cause NPCs to become hostile. Reactivity-wise, there's not much there, and essentially nothing after the grove, as you might expect. Mechanically, Moon Druids are decent, especially if you abuse Tavern Brawler, but at the cost of forgoing itemization - very little applies to your Wild Shape. Other subclasses are just generically okay - not terrible, not great. So I don't really see the appeal of the class. It's good enough for the swine because it's a dishonest, worthless cheater. If you're an honest player, I would look elsewhere.
Is this general always like this?
>>551735514has been for more than a year at this point
>>551735514only when one of the two schizos are awake
>>551736446>>551736496Shit.
>>551676287I forgot that I gave the original Raven horns.I'll have to fix that on my new one.
>>551735514It's still the best place to post about the game so even if it's dying anons are not leaving.
>>551731476>It's good enough for the swine because it's a dishonest, worthless cheater. If you're an honest player, I would look elsewhere.What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
>>551740095when was the last time you romanced shadowheart?
>>551729125they're great because they can cast guidance on themselves, power level wise they're pretty good too, they can cast haste, wall of fire & call lightning for aoes and summon a lot of troops that guy doesn't know what he's talking about>>551729125 they have a lot of burst damage thanks to the wet + lightning damage
skyrim soundtrack is so outdated compared to BG3 soundtrack
>>551745313oblivion's ost is better than both
>>551735514You'd have to get rid of nametranny to have any hope of fixing it, and he's pretty hard to move if you know what I mean. He's fat.
Every time I have to fight the fucking githyanki they always give me a hard time and I don't know why
>>551747849The Vlaakith avatar ambush gave me a little trouble but the fucking monks right after always take at least two of my party down
I'm playing Eldritch Knight/Swashbuckler is it better to Booming Blade and have the sneak attack damage added to that or sneak attack and then Booming Blade?
>>551748521what in the lord of FUCK, you are asking about?
>>551749629When I Booming Blade I notice my Rakish Sneak Attack gets added to the damage and I can't sneak attack anymore that round. Would it be better to Sneak Attack and then Booming Blade?
>>551750072You're supposed to NEVER use Sneak Attack ability it's always automatic, or are you now saying Booming Blade bugs Sneak Attack?
>>551740095Baldur's Gate has become too "diverse." We must rid ourselves of the dragonfreaks and other undesirables.>>551741005A resident attention whore has avatarfagged a druid for over a year and likes to chime in whenever the class is mentioned. I'm just preemptively warning you not to take anything it says seriously, because it's a worthless cheater.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548047508/#548164457https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548463537/#548530791Examples of avatarfaggotry just because someone posted a druid.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/477414774/#477426809Cheating by rigging the dice rolls in a dice-rolling game.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/539476140/#539787737Cheating by removing the level cap and bragging about it.
>>551735514i always found sassy bitchfights hilarious, so this is the funniest general on /vg/ imo
>>551753793this is one of the safer threads on /vg/, there are horrors beyond our minds that are here
sooooo fuck wyll fans I guess?
yesyou might be a wyll fan, but that's like asking to mass produce cow shit flavored chewing gums because there is 1 fan of it on the planet
>>551706121I'm not sure about that. Divinity might be one big Act 3 in terms of quality. Larian already lost a bit of their golden boy status with the AI fiasco. Players are more prepared to turn on them if the content sucks.
If you have Halfing and have Great Weapon Fighting, which comes first? It stacks right so i can not roll 1 as Fighter except if i roll three 1's in a row?
>>551759348>Divinity might be one big Act 3 in terms of quality.that's a good thing what>Larian already lost a bit of their golden boy status with the AI fiasco.nobody gives a shit, expedition 33 won goty while using AI
>>551759520Expedition 33 used AI for placeholder art and that's it. Swen is using AI way more extensively. Also, the AI meltdown happened after the GOTY awards
>>551759380They don't interact with each other. Halfling Luck affects attack rolls. Great Weapon Fighting affects damage rolls.
>>551759741>Expedition 33 used AI for placeholder art and that's itno> Swen is using AI way more extensively. and nobody gives a shit
>>551759803OOOOOoooooohhh....... Thank you for claring. That also means GWF is shit lmao.
>>551759871That headline doesn't disprove anything I said. Sandfall said Ex33 used genAI for placeholder art. Swen is actually using AI in the narrative department too, which is a bit of a red flag, personally. I don't actually care that much about it, but all the negative attention has definitely hurt Larian's status in the industry.
>>551760145> Swen is actually using AI in the narrative department too,they use AI for placeholders in cinematics, codes, reference gathering for concept arts and to help writers explain their vision to mocap artists and the animation team, that's it>but all the negative attention has definitely hurt Larian's status in the industry.come on now nobody cares, it's still the same team that made bg3 with extra billions and better programmers & artists, there's no universe where it won't do just as well as bg3
>find the githyanki bitch in trapped in a cage>fail a check with the two tieflings so i had to fight her>game tutorial suggests i knock her out>hours later find her at the big bridge with the other githyanki>get into a fight with them, she ends up dying>resurrect her>literally the first long rest immediately after she starts shit with shadowheart>wants the artefact that's protecting us>tell her no we need it>tries to kill shadowheart in her sleep that night>decide to beat her ass>shes level 1 still so i one shot herwhat the actual fuck was this bitch's problem?
>>551760067GWF is actually decent in BG3 compared to its 5E counterpart because it's coded differently.>Unlike in 5th Edition rules, added damage dice from sources like Superiority Die, Divine Smite, and a Fire or Simple Toxin-dipped weapon may also be rerolled.It depends on the class and build, but it can be competitive if not better than Defense.
>>551760546also:>talk to the other companions about it>they all say how unfortunate it was that i killed her and they'll miss her despite being in the party for all of two minutes
how does Tavern Brawler work if you have 16 Dex and 12 Str?
>>551760415People always reference Swen's newest interview, but conveniently forget about the interview a long time ago where he also talked about AI. He said AI was being used to keep all of the narrative branches on track and to make sure they don't conflict with one another. This is on top of "placeholder" text, which seems dubious in nature. Why would AI need to do placeholder text? Art assets take a ton of time, so I can understand using a placeholder there, but quick placeholder text doesn't take any significant amount of time to write.
>>551760607AC can be stacked though, minimum dice rolls can't it really comes down to preference, for me i'd rather deal a bit less damage from time to time but maximize my survivability instead>>551760546>fail a check with the two tieflings so i had to fight heryour reading comprehension is wyll tier if you think you had no other choice but to fight herwhat a fucking retard lmao
>>551760896TB only scales with STR afaik, it adds some damage with 12 STR but i wouldn't go for it in this case
>>551761030so 18 Dex would be better
>>551760916>but quick placeholder text doesn't take any significant amount of time to write.I don't know but he guarenteed that there'll be no generated ai content in the actual game so I don't see how that's an issue, they can use whatever tool they need during pre production as long as the actual game is slop free
>>551761113better for what? TB doesn't care about DEX at all, i'm guessing you just want to round up your starting 17 DEX to 18? just pick a better feat, or straight up ASI and get the hag's hair for 20 DEX in act 1
>>551761267It implies AI has a lot more influence on the narrative than what he's letting on. Like when genAI is "keeping the narrative on track", it's actually straight up writing and creating it's own dialogue branches with "placeholder" text, only for a real writer to do a minor rewrite afterwards. I hope that's not the case, but I'm not optimistic.
>>5517613255lvl monk build no elixir so ability score
>>551760546calling women bitches is very problematic
i can't remember the fight, more precisely if the room is locked or not while fighting Gortashwould be hilarious if you could just fling him off from the top of the castle lol, unless he has some bullshit anti-movement buff on him
so if tieflings and druid start fight and kill each other will karlach still join? is he so depent on dammon? what about wyll?
>>551763891She'll join unless you raided the grove with Minthara, fixing the heart is only necessary if you want to romance her.
>>551765146doesn't she need fixing to make it to act 3? i always had the impression she's going to explode otherwise, but never tried it
>haven't played bg3 in months>had a dream about finally doing a dragonborn durge playthroughugh fine time to reinstall
>>551766171Durge is the most fun.>Reject path is Jesus Christ purging of sins reincarnation cinema>Embrace path is edge-cringe Crawling in My Skin kino
>throw burning torch into a mist of noxius fumes>scratch runs after it
>saving the refugees and beating Tactician is still sub-10%Gamers are so stupid.
>>551769809saving the refugees requires meta knowledge cause how tf are you supposed to know someones gonna die if that retarded goblin gets shot in a cage
divinity looks way darker & mature than the previous games, making bg3 really taught larian tons of lessons
>>551706121Uh? I never played a Divinity game. And if I did, I would discuss about it in the /crpgg/ where it belongs, lmao!I also think you underestimate how big of an impact the original BG games had, they're cult classic and they attract million of fans just for that. Divinity is obviously more niche, even if everyone who's in the know, knows Larian is pretty consistent at making good games. >>551729125Druids are always great for "main characters", in my opinion: high WIS so you got a decent amount of dialogue options and using your 'Insight' is usually a fun way to roleplay as a wise, but maybe not too smart, protagonist: it makes them a little flawed and you want that in a main character.I like Druids because they can be pure arcane casters, a mix between magic and melee, or just focus on your Wildshape and go full animal.When it comes specifically to BG3, there's a lot of interesting events and RP options, especially in Act 1 so you're druidpilled from the get go: the Grove has lots of dedicated dialogue options, you can even lecture Kagha; 'Speak with Animals' not only is a must have spell, it will come in handy more times than you think.Personally I loved Circle of the Spores, it was perfect for a Seldarine Drow.10/10 class would reccomend again.
>>551769809The vast majority of people do not give a damn about beating a game on the hardest difficulty.
>>551769809i got better things to do than farming pointless "achievements" unc
>>551770140half of bg3's playerbase never finished the game, people like us that replay it several times are a minority
I used creamapi to unlock achivements on steam once I got foe hammer there's no way I'm saving all the tieflings
>>551770140me
>>551770332>half of bg3's playerbase never finished the gameThat isn't unique to BG3.When it comes to game completion, 30-40% is the sign your game was actually popular and kept most people engaged. It's extremely rare for it to ever be higher than 30-40% on any Steam game. If it's <10%, then I'd argue the game was pretty bad and simply did not keep people entertained.
>>551770140>beating a game on the hardest difficultyI just wanted the combat to be engaging, to encourage strategy. And it did, I made better use of positioning and started using consumables.>>551770271>"achievements"My point is people are failing to save the refugees and can't muster the additional brain cell required for Tactician.
>>551770575you know you got nothing going on in your life when you think that being able to beat bg3 on tactician or not is a big deal
shadowbaby in divinity
>>551770881>a big dealIs English not your first language? I think that's the only thing that explains these responses. You weren't really offended by "gamers are so stupid". Right?
How do i steal Breastplate +1?
lol
>>551771715Save the refugees. As they're leaving, there's literally no one watching the inside of the cave.
>>551771875you can get both by siding with glut btw
>>551772196nvm I got my mushrooms mixed up
>>551770332Nothing unusual about this.
>>551772438I was among the people filtered by witcher 3 the combat felt way too clunky
Astarion Monk or Astarion Arcane Archer?
>>551772601bardstarion
>>551771715fog cloud
>virgin nameless IP vs chad DnD licencekinos
>>551774348hmmm
>>551774348we love Solasta here though
>>551774658>rpg with no romance & 5e gameplaygross, not playing that
>>551774832yeah the companions not being real characters is the killer
>>551774832back to /crpgg/ with you
>>551774572DOS1 and 2 have been killing it since the Divinity announcement.
>>551775532yeah I've even seen lore videos being recommended on youtube they really got all the momentum necessary to make that game the next skyrim
>>551772601he's AA for me right now, but he used to be monkmonk fits him a lot better, especially if you make his camp clothes visible 24/7, he's practically a vampire ripping people apart with his bare hands, and has no need for armor because vampires are a lot more durable than humansnow, why he is not a monk anymore? because he was too fucking strong and solo'd the ogres, spiders, gnolls and goblin leadersi wanted to use the other classes as well
grinding out levels on this solo trickery cleric run has been brutal. i've had to use every cheese on god's green earth
Mizora
>>551760546what a fucking retard you are
>>551778623>just out of focus is a another jeaous hag
sorcerer companion mizora would have gone hard
>>551780032It wouldn't even be imbalanced or clash with her role as Wyll's patron if you got her in act 3.
>>551760546Lae'zel fanboys are seething at you, but Lae'zel sounds like the retarded one there. She got massacred at the githyanki patrol and then tries to fight Shadowheart the very next long rest. This is of course just for a chance to hand the artefact over to the githyanki sent by Vlaakith (who just tried to kill the party and have no interest in your well-being)
>>551780369she was about to get tadpoled too idk making the player choose betwen mizora or wyll would have been a cool dillema
>>551780783Why is she so perfect?
>>551781564all baatezu wives are perfection
>>551781686>no marry Mizora ending where you leave the stinky ruins of the Gate for her Avernus boudoir togetherree
>>551780032>spare Karlachget Karlach as companion>kill Karlachget Mizora as companion
>>551780032Raphael should've been Tavlock's patron imo
>>551760546>>fail a checkskill issueand why would you side with thieflings instead of the gith who saved you from the ship
>>551782117>ackker population drops to zero overnightlol
>>551782176I understand why they didn't do that, he could be a patron of just the Fiend subclass and it'd lock you to a specific ending or force you to change class since even if you manage to get out of the contract you'll lose your powers.
>>551782267yeah totally worked for minthara
>>551782075i blame habsro for fucking things up
halsin & minthara were the worst possible options when it comes to extra companions they bring nothing to the crew dynamic and are barely finished, meanwhile barcus & rolan got quests in act 1, 2 and 3
>>551783227i sincerely hope for Divinty's EA they stop listening to the retards on reddit and do whatever the fuck they want, or better yet, do the exact opposite of what they ask for.
>>551741005I told you the attention whore couldn't resist talking about itself. You're welcome for the context.
>>551783227funny way of saying karlach
>>551783424I like them listening to EA feedback when it comes to the gameplay & QoL side of things but making shadowheart who's a fucking sharran less of a bitch or adding halsin just because he's jacked was fucking retarded and showed that they didn't believe in their vision
>>551783614karlach's concept is fine and bounces off all the companions well including minthara her issue is that she has no story and swears too much
>>551783227isn't halsin one of the dev's self inserts?
>>551784879idk it was on purpose but he definitely feels that way, I think that it's because everybody finds him hot for some reason
>playing the instrument in the underdark makes it echowhat a nice touchcan't wait for lvl 6 so my cleric can take 1 lvl into bard so we can sing along
>>551783227Yeah I wish both weren't added >>551783614seething toadcel
Adding Halsin as a companion was a mistake, because he overlaps too much with Jaheira as a druid. Halsin should have been rescued, retaken control of the Grove, and then sent there--Jaheira could have handled all of his quests in Act II.Minthara, though, does bring something unique to the table, being both a race and class not covered by the other companions, and the idea of recruiting someone from an enemy faction is interesting and should have been explored more.Similarly, Sazza should have been recruitable as well.
>>551783806>and swears too muchZoomoids tradcuckery needs to be studied
>>551786917You were correct until the last sentence.
>>551786950swearing just like tattoos doesn't make you more interesting it makes you trashier
>>551786917Nere would've made more sense in that regard
>>551786950dnd characters shouldn't talk like karlach, she's the only character that talks like a regular person
>all scrolls of greater invis bugged out and disappeared from my inventorywhat the fuck? is this a new bug?
>>551786917you types only want more female companions
>>551787314or maybe they're working as intended
>>551786917nothing but trvkes>>551787127NPC take>>551787359nere is way better drow representation than minthara imo I'd be fine with a drow male instead of yet another bitchy female noble drow
>>551787359KethericYes.jpg
I would take Nere and Alfira over Halsin and Manthara
>>551787910kill gale and replace him by rolan while you're at it
sarth and ghustil should have been companions desu
>>551787209I would agree, except that Nere appears too late in the game. That's another issue with Halsin: that he's not recruitable until well into Act II, at which point a player would (should) have already formed attachments with their earlier companions. Even Minthara's joining in Act II is too late.Minthara, after being spared, should have been captured by the Grove and interrogated, then agreed to help guide the party to Moonrise Towers, fully intending to betray them once they arrive, only for her trial at Thorm's hands to proceed.>>551787127I respect your opinion, but the game needs more smallfolk representation and I find Sazza funny. I also think it'd be fun to bring her to the light side, though I admit that having her as a villain character for an evil playthrough should absolutely also have been an option.
>>551787425Female noble drow who slowly sees Lolth's society the self-destructive clown car it is and becomes good is the most kino drow arc. Viconia and Minthara just ditch Lolth (and in Viconia's case switch to someone just as bad to worship). Drizzt was literally born chaotic good and hating Lolth so he missed that arc entirely.
>>551788182sazza would have been such a funny companion imagine her talking to raphael or minsc
>>551788427>harlep gets defeated by sazzaFUND IT
>>551788051too many tieflings then
>>551788182>but the game needs more smallfolk representation and I find Sazza funnythey shouldn't have cut the halfling werewolf bard helia
>>551788579have you seen how many elves & humans are in the party? at least tieflings got different colors>>551788643yeah she would have been dope too, every dnd party needs a bard
you just want a goblin fucktoy, quit pretending that she'd be some amazing character lol
>>551788735>no a literal goblin couldn't have been fun to have in camp people only like characters because they want to FUCK them SEX SEX SEXNPC take
What lessons about game design do you think Larian will take from BG3 to apply to their next game? Do you think they'll use DOS2's system attributes and abilities) or simplify the mechanics?
>>551788697Yeah but a lot of chuds hate tiefs. Elves are given a pass cause hot.
>>551788735This, same with any other waifu npc
>>551788891she won't have sex with you bro
>>551788427That would have been amazing. In a game full of snarky semi-pricks, Sazza would have been queen.>>551788643This, too; though her being a werewolf would have overlapped uncomfortably with Astarion's questline. Maybe she and Alfira (and/or Quill) could have all known each other, or even all been in Lihala's troupe, and that would have had some fun reactivity if you're playing the Dark Urge.>>551788735I actually find the game's horniness distracting, although Lae'Zel wanting to jump into bed with you after you let her interrogate Zorru was a riot.Unrelated: is there a way to get the Broodmother's Pendant if you spare Kagha?
>>551788986Bex is sex.
>>551789509yjk she'd be dtf if her husband wasn't right next to her during the party lol
>>551788952they already said that they will change the entire ruleset, as of the lesson that they learned it has to be that they don't need surface faggotry to make combat interesting and that bg3's gear system is way better than the mmo items you could find in dos2>>551789380I won't have sex with you either if you keep being such a gooner
>>551789453My guess is turning her temporarily hostile through stealing or something and knocking her out. I tried knocking her out in the shadow druid fight but that bugged the game (everyone treated her as dead and her unconscious body stuck around in the grove permanently).
>>551789676>I won't have sex with you either if you keep being such a gooner
>minor illusion triggers bibberbang>the dwatf is scripted to run away to safety>once out of the cloud, fails the investigation check and runs back into the exploding fiery mushrooms
>>551789676>they already said that they will change the entire ruleset, as of the lesson that they learned it has to be that they don't need surface faggotry to make combat interesting and that bg3's gear system is way better than the mmo items you could find in dos2Oh, that's cool! I wonder what they're going to go with.>>551789453>Unrelated: is there a way to get the Broodmother's Pendant if you spare Kagha?If you spare Kagha, and defeat the goblins, after the celebration she's standing alone near the stone gate. You can knock her out and steal it from her then. She'll be pissed when she wakes up, but you can always just trade her junk for free to raise her opinion of you, if you care about that.
>>551788182>I respect your opinionThe feeling is not mutual. When I see people say things like "the game needed more X representation," I can only imagine a kind of nonchalance toward the game and its setting. It treats potential companions as superficial set pieces that one can recruit simply because of how cool, funny, or unusual they are, with little regard for how well they would fit. I think goblins are plenty represented already - as the vermin they are.>>551788238That arc was already done in BG2 with Viconia. Minthara is a different character.
>>551787127>>551790396Why does goblin beauty scare you so much?
cuteee
>Sazza sees everyone pairing up and having lots of sex after surviving incredible odds.>Nobody wants to fuck a smelly goblin.>Sazza goes and speaks to the other female companions for advice on making herself desirable.>She ends up really enjoying her first proper bath.
Justice for Kanon
>goblin beautyAsk yourself whether you really want to associate with the "person" that unironically typed this. Ah, but BG3 had too many conventionally attractive elves, you see. It needed more... "representation."
>>551790396>The feeling is not mutual.I mean, I'm just some anonymous goober on the Internet, but if feeling superior to me for having a different opinion about video game storytelling makes you happy, all the more power to you.
Why was it morally acceptable to kill goblin children?
I have exposed Kagha. Should I deal with the Teahouse stuff before I deal with the goblins?Should I take the deal? I'm playing as a Hexblade, and I know that I can also get another +1 charisma from the mirror later.
>>551791126Those kids at the goblin party actually try to mug you. Goblins are like meazels and harpies, naturally homicidal.
>you see, i raped that goblin in self-defense
>>551791265Most warlocks would go for the deal even as a RP option, but if you're like Wyll and only took the pact to hunt evildoers you wouldn't take it.
Every woman in this game is stacked to the nines. Even Olodan, the Shadow Druid, who looks old in the face, has the chest of a 20-year old stripper.
Thoughts on Kagha?
>>551791912mildly disapproving frog
>>551792134Very pretty.Her VA is also Us so you kinda can have her as a companion
>>551792087imagine grabbing one of the shadow druids and using her a fleshlight and her arms are flailing up and down like a toy's as you're pumping it up and down on your throbbing cock
>>551792259She'll approve if you pass the roll to free Mayrina too.
Rather Gribbo than Sazza
>>551792739Gribbo is Volosexual
>>551792565Everyone but Gale or Wyll approve of saving Mayrina AND taking the power, and neither Gale nor Wyll disapprove.It's a sizable approval, too; +5.
>>551792825I can be her new Volo
KEK
Volo is a WIZARD, not a Bard.
>>551793484Swen hates Wyyl
>>551793123It makes sense for everyone but maybe Karlach who might not want to deal with someone like Ethel considering her history.For example in Lae'zel's case you can >let the troublesome hag off the hook for a price (no approval)>kill the hag (small approval)>take the hag's prize and humiliate her by taking Mayrina too, leaving her to seethe (bigger approval)
>>551793845his tiny fanbase is fucking obnoxious
>>551793484I feel like we're missing the point why Wyll was mad
>>551794368you fucked the woman that ruined his life by allowing him to save baldur's gate, mizora is unironically one of the nicest devils out there
>>551770332It's worse than that: Half the playerbase only even made it out of act 1.Finish the game at all any ending is sitting at around 23%.Honor mode is sitting at 2.9%, and the rarest achievement in bg3 is actually just the one to make gold by playing music, sitting at 2.5%.It is true that this is completely normal and doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on the game, because these similar statistics exist for most games in general including other good games, but it's just funny to think about. How many people have praised it, or tried to criticize it, or said it was their favorite, etc etc without even getting out of act 1.
>>551791025It's not an ego thing. It's not that I feel superior to you - I just don't respect your opinion. If you truly care about the setting, then it should be relatively obvious why joke NPCs like Sazza (ugly backstabbing goblin), Roah (greedy little midget), or Helia (undersized werewolf) are not really suitable companions and would undermine the tone. Novelty or race/gender preferences are not enough to justify someone who cannot stand as the equal of Shadowheart or Lae'zel... or even reach the bar counter.
we love dwarves, halflings, gnomes and goblins and hope that divinity will have fun sized companions
>>551791126Do you ponder the morality of crushing a cockroach under your boot?
>>551795451Replace Wyll with this
>>551794508The entire thing was a trick. Mizora was playing the long game by ensnaring Wyll into her service.Which should, logically, render the contract void and unenforceable, but whatever.>>551795049NTAYRT, but it's already a gonzo-style fantasy setting. Why have dwarfs, gnomes, and halflings in the setting if you're not going to use them?
>>551795986hobbits were the protagonists of the OG fantasy series, that guy's a moron, short races are sick
>>551795049>or Helia (undersized werewolf) are not really suitable companions and would undermine the tonethere's nothing wrong with helia. it sounds like you hate the fact that halflings and gnomes even exist. they ARE in the setting and plenty of dnd stories have them in there. i read some of paul kemp's books recently and he has a halfling as one of the main characters
>>551795986You replying the schizoid but >Why have dwarfs, gnomes, and halflings in the setting if you're not going to use them?They are in the game just not as a companion. Helia was the hafling companion that got cut. Wish they put effort into that instead of Halsin and MInthara. I do believe Larian was afraid of the crowd who deems sex with midgets as pedophilia.
>>551796496>I do believe Larian was afraid of the crowd who deems sex with midgets as pedophilia.I don't think that's the case since gnome tavs can still bang and make out with the companions, I think that it's the werewolf part that got her cut maybe it messed with her gear or wotc didn't want an actual werewolf in the party or something
>>551790958>conventionally attractive elvesIf you like man jaws, I guess.
Bro what is up with this game. Just passed 100K concurrent. And is in the top 10 globally in sales.
>>551796682>gnome tavvThat's different that's the player doing it. Most people do not play midget.An actual midget companion just existing away from the player would cause somebody on twitter to get mad. They could have reused the gnolls for a werewolf model tbqh.
>>551794926that's surprising
>>551797071bg3 rarely goes on sale & divinity is the talk of the town, even the divinity games got a bump in player count
>>551797424>Sorry for party-rocking
>>551796878Elves or women in western fantasy settings in general are not supposed to look like animu characters or victims of korean shaved jawbone surgeries
>>551798356My queen...
>>551795986>Why have dwarfs, gnomes, and halflings in the setting if you're not going to use them?They ARE already used. As background NPCs and, sometimes, bags of experience. This is good enough for them. It's not that I deny their existence, any more than I deny the existence of goblins or duergar. I simply believe that the race of a companion should matter, and not be a representation checkbox because we have too many elven companions already. Consider how much race defines the characters of Lae'zel and Minthara. The game is richer with these companions who are githyanki and drow to their core, who behave and think in a way only a githyanki or a drow would. It would be poorer if we wasted a companion slot to learn more about the nonexistent culture of halflings (they're small and easygoing people) or the "culture" of goblins (they're vermin).
is that guy always like this?
>>551799134she is cute frog
>>551799134>I am woman, hear me ribbit
>>551799134You learn the basics of Halfling culture if you use speak with the dead on Corliss at the monastery.Ask her where she came from.
>>551799209Does the swine always talk about itself and its slop and nothing else? Does the parasite always use BG3 as a pretext to ramble about Larian's Next Game? Does the wife anon always dodge listing three non-physical things he likes about his wife?>>551799918>the basics of Halfling cultureNo one cares, trust me.
>>551800236what are you blabbering about
>>551800220>stealing shadowheart's husband
I do not think.I do not feel.I only kick.
i hope swen includes a jump button for the new divinity game
>>551801043They should keep all the universal bg3 actions and overhaul their stealth and grappling system I really wonder how much their new version of their engine will impact the cinematic and gameplay maybe we'll get to swim or something
>>551800515that's astarions husband
>>551794926Makes me feel better about still not beating honor mode. I will some day
>>551800515>cuckposting again
This frog makes me feel funny..
what's actually wrong with how viconia was written anyway
>>551802965I can't have sex with her
>>551802118i heard if you licked her spots there's a mild psychedelic effect
>>551802118>>551803561fuck wrong pic
>>551802965She's not remotely in character?
>>551804461explain
>>551802965Well, she became an exile by defying Lolth in the first place due to how her brother was treated.She then also defies Shar in the BG2 epilogue and goes on adventuring with Drizzt Do'Urden, a drow that's actually good and not evil.Essentially, she's not a good person but draws the line at some point and is willing to stand up to her goddess.BG3 scrapped this entirely and turns her into an obedient servant of Shar, who commits similar evil acts that led to her banishment in the first place and follows her goddess' command even if she really does not like it.It's one of those instances where you ask yourself whether Larian really wanted to feature that character and WotC simply greenlit it or WotC insisted on using the character and Larian threw her in due to that.
>>551804639WotC cares more about Lorroakan than Viconia, they made him survive the game and keep Ramazith's tower even though he also was humiliated when trying to capture the Nightsong.
Lorroakan BEATS Rolan
Fools, fools how hard you have fought
>>551803751ALL GLORY TO FROGWIFE
>>551802965Basically the same thing as with Sarevok, taking a more nuanced character with motivations other than serving the deity(s) they were associated with and turning them into zealot lapdog punching bags for the player.
>4 Spore>8 Gloomerlmao
>>551805914wotc is going to do the same with bg3 characters aha
>>551806108I mean, they seem to be making Redditlach their flagship character and have made no mention of frogwife, so it’s clear where their priorities are.
>>551792134Kagha is perhaps one of the most misunderstood and underrated characters, but, more importantly, she's a master class on how to write an honest and memorable female character. Modern feminism is often plagued by writing that pushes Mary Sues who can do no wrong, experience no struggle, and only exist to promote tired girl-power superficiality. Kagha cuts through the artifice and stands out as a timeless female character, as fierce and sometimes cruel, yet fair, as the nature she defends. This is no less relevant in the world of Faerûn, where women are just as capable and wise as men, because gender still exists, and with it the inevitable barrier that separates man from woman. Detractors are quick to point out her alleged moral flaws - xenophobia, racism, and her reckless endangerment of Arabella. But a read of her motivations reveals a noble soul that only seeks to protect her brood - there is nothing wrong in that. Kagha is a character whose worldview steps beyond basic concepts of right or wrong, and who invokes the necessity to act when survival is at stake. It is not fear or hatred of the other that drives her, but a desire to secure a future for her people. Sever the branch if you must, but do not let the rot infect the whole of the wood. Anyone who has ever wanted to protect something dear to them understands. Kagha reminds me of figures like Lady Eboshi from Princess Mononoke, who might be considered by some to be a villain, yet is a compassionate leader - to call her evil would be a gross misinterpretation. Even at her darkest, it is outside forces that manipulate and corrupt her, but her heart remains pure throughout. It is because of her fallibility that she remains a sympathetic and even admirable character. It is because she comes close to falling that she triumphs all the brighter when she rejects the darkness within. Her concise and complete character arc, condensable in maybe three minutes, is a testament to how, sometimes, less is more.
>>551806657didn't ask toadcel, your toad wife is going to be loyal to Vlaakith in wotc's canon
>>551806724I ain’t reading all that, but Kagha did nothing wrong.
>>551806968Seeing how stupid they’ve handled things so far, I wouldn’t be surprised if.Fortunately, I can just ignore their retardation.
>>551806724Did nametranny write this first
>>551806724Agree with a lot of this, though I couldn't characterize her as 'admirable', even in the most charitable light. She's definitely underrated, though; the VA did an excellent job.
>>551806968WotC doesn't get to decide Faerun's canon; that's up to the GM and their players.It's a sandbox, and I can build up or knock down as many castles as I like.
>>551807264Yes, the namefag is me. I'm both Mintharafag and Untitledanon.>>551807629>though I couldn't characterize her as 'admirable'The willingness to act on what you believe is right, even when it costs you the approval of your peers, is certainly admirable in my book. It showcases integrity.
>>551808714Sure until bg4 comes out and every character remains stagnant
>>551807629I’d argue that all the grove’s troubles can be explained by “Halsin was a shitty leader and teacher.”
>>551809946>some random goblins are harassing your camp>instead of sending any of the like ~30 druids who can all morph into bears/birds/etc to go investigate Halsin decides the leader should gowhat a tard
>fall to my death because i used lightning bolt while standing in an area that didn't look destructible and had no hp barvery cool larian
>>551811586>house of hope>cliffside entrance to the relaxation room>Retarded ass raphael statues wing blocks my jump despite having a clear line of sight and i fall to my death>unable to revive because of retarded physics
>>551812069yeah there's a lot of dumb shit like that in this game. it makes solo runs insufferable because of it
>>551810861Shaddy...
will you play the next ai slop by swen?
>>551814729What's this I'm hearing about AI?
>>551815832pearl clutchers crying
Mantharafag is about to rant about Shadowheart in /crpgg/ again. He will do it in the Divinity general soon, she won so hard
No one cares about what happens in other generals, but your obsession is duly noted.>You're jealous and got offended that someone else posts screenshots with black bars like you do in /tesg/.>No one else is so catty and autistically persevering.
>>551815832Swen said the studio is fully AI driven now and everything (including ideas) have been generated via AIThe latest divinity trailer was conceptualized in chatgpt and generated via gemini
>>551817085>back when she was gooning to shaddy How many of his screenshots do you have
Mizora, Minthara, and Astarion are genuinely some of the nicest members of their race/disease. With Minthara and Astarion you could call it pragmatism since you're the most competent person in Faerun (though even then Minthara is genuinely cordial). Mizora on the other hand is downright merciful for a cambion devil lord when she really has no reason to be
>>551817917Same with Lae’zel.
>>551817985On Creche K'liir she was known for her dazzling smile and charisma
>>551817917it helps that Astarion is a spawn and not a real vamp
>>551792739
>>551817985>>551818578true
>>551817917Sort of. Mizora has orders to not actually impede the party's progress towards destroying the brain, since Zariel has incentive for them to succeed. It's the same reason she stops trying to kill Karl. We don't really know what Mizora would be like if she wasn't under orders to not actually do anything serious. And given the fact that she murders Wyll's father herself if Wyll tries to break the pact, we're actually shown that she's a pretty terrible person. Even if you accept that her trying to make a new pact for Wyll's soul under false pretenses is just cutthroat business and not truly evil (she misinformed him that he needed her to save him, which was a lie), there's no actual reason for her to take it upon herself to murder Wyll's father. So she's actually quite evil.Vampire spawn are just cursed people, they haven't lost their sense of self yet, so they will be whatever personality they were before becoming a spawn. They are under magical compulsion to follow their sire's orders, so we don't hold Astarion's actions against him as they relate to his seducing hundreds of people to be murdered by Cazador. Astarion is thankful if you talk him out of the black mass, and he learns that what he was truly after the whole time is freedom, he just mistook power as the only segue to freedom. He's happy just being free. So I actually do agree that Astarion is overall not that bad at his core, despite the various odd or cruel things he approves of throughout the game.Minthara is still evil since she holds some of the mores of her culture, but everything she says regarding how she would run the nation is actually just standard stuff that real life nations do and have done forever. Her position on immigration, the role of the press, the role of leaders, etc are just standard realistic and standard fantasy LE stuff. Her personal desire for a stable, loving relationship is also very counter-cultural, so she's not like most drow.
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>>551820352good post
>>551810861
>>551819112
>*sniff sniff*is that... goodberry I smell...?
>Isobel has been sporting a swollen lip and a black eye since the Inn raid because NPCs don't heal>About to advance Act 2's plot so I figure I better heal her because her domestic abuse face bugs me>Throw a potion at her>Heals her>Also aggros her and all the remaining Last Light Inn NPCsLast time I try to help a Selunite
Which two origin characters make the cutest couple?
>>551826924Lae’zel and Shadowheart
>>551826924femDragonborn Durge and Astarion.
>>551826924Kart and Shaddy or Karl and Astarion
>>551827079>Astarion my love, I am going fucking insane and the dark urge within my calls for your blood>The only dark power that should be inside you is me ;)
>>551826012At least when you aggro people outside of camp you can stealth and run away, even teleporting to camp to long rest to see if they're not mad later.This happened to me which could have ended a run theoretically if we didn't figure a solution >>494149834
>>551830310Do you like my ships
>>551826012You throw it on the ground near her, not at the model.Baka anon.>>551817085I made a drow bladesinger with this hairstyle... I really like that hairstyle.
ngl Act 2 overstays its welcome.
>>551832242I love Act 2. It’s probably my favorite section of the game. The vibes are immaculate.
>>551832576shit taste
>roll two 1s back to back trying to pull Gale from the sigil>he fucking diesJesus christ
>>551833031no u
>>551834126If it was me at that portal, it wouldn't have gone down like that.
>>551834126holy based
Why didn't Gale just cast Feather Fall? Was he stupid?
>>551837147Brain worm.
>>551832576Act 2 should have been the length of the Undardark or the Mountain Pass + Gith Creche. Instead it's like triple the length of Act 1.
My dumb ass has been checking things off, like: Okay, I've done all the major/minor quests in the grove, I've done Waukeen's Rest and the Risen Road, I've exposed Kagha and and I'm about to take care of Auntie Ethel. I'm almost done Act 1!I had to remind myself that I've got to do the Blighted Village, Underdark, and Monastery before I'm done. The first act of this game is larger than other, full games!
>>551837309Is it? I notice I finish it a lot faster than Act 1 especially counting the Underdark+Creche
why the fuck is shart stealing lae'zel's rock raiders
>>551806724i ain't reading all thatyou literally just like her because she's racist
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