Christmas Afterparty Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-16-2025-update.93983/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>551374837
sometimes I'm really convinced that this game will die if there is no draft
>>551579350>cropped ranksLeft team was better you ritualist pisslow
>>551579230>Paige spends entire laning phase jumping around and trying to heavy melee peopleWhich youtube fag started this trend? Last one in my game bought crushing fists
>>551579350these draft diff screenshots you retards post are always a self expose.
>>551579081>by some pub retardAs opposed to what kek, the game literally only has pubs right now
>>551579230This is a Lady Geist thread
>>551579606it's not cropped I don't have the setting onrank is phantom 3 and phantom 4
>>551579756It could be worse, I've seen people do melee builds and never actually punch anything
>>551580248Phantom is tard bracket after everyone got free mmr. Draft doesn't matter in tard bracket
>>551580452post rank
>>551579230>want to Ornament Hunt>keep getting the most cruel one sided curbstompsI thought they were supposed to drop you into matches below your skill level if you never played that character before
>play support>down 3 walkers and mirage wraith do no damagewhy do i bother building support for retards
>>551580508*posts eternus rank*
>terrible ABSOULTELY terrible with a hero>get bigger retard teammates than me>enemy team probably 6 man stack pro smurf accounts>hero im actually good at>enemy team too busy eating glue>teammates are a bunch of poopsockers that I dont get to do anythingidk why I still play this trash
>>551580708I kneel...
>holliday AND sinclair playing for ornaments in your teamwhat do you do?
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
>>551581308Edge whenever I'm respawning
>>551580585gonna make these pancakes tomorrow thanks anon
>you lose and game ends>teammate says you suck>do better than them in every metricWhat causes this type of mental retardation?
shouldn't we have more in the new player guide then just a glossary
>>551580585>I thought they were supposed to drop you into matches below your skill level if you never played that character beforeThey do, it's just that all the low skill feeders are on YOUR team
>>551581308>queued up and got wardenwin.
>>551581567Yeah
>>551581308>holiday and sinclair on my team: absolute degenerate retards, who would feed on their mains, too. can't stop jungling while our towers are being melted by minions>their first-game holiday and sinclair: absolute masterminds, literally two retired Seal Team 6 members. while they don't have a full grasp of the character, they have common sense not to do idiot plays, and win off pure fundamentals.
I get people not being good at a character they are playing for the first time but most people I see are dogshit at the game itself I mean like people abandoning lane 2 minutes in to box farm and feeding Drifter because they must have 1v1s against him all game, how do people like this get into oracle
>>551582098uhh you're supposed to get boxes at 2 minutes if there's no wave lil bro
>>551581551>go 0/8 in lane as pocket>co-laner is ivy>enemy is shiv + goopmanmy gun ivy ended the 40 minute game with less than 13k damage done, i was wondering why the enemy laners weren't taking damage and were constantly on top of our guardian killing us
>>551581567The on boarding process sucks, yes. I find it funny that the tutorial is using videos from years ago still.
>>551581567sure, you wanna make it?
>>551582520ivy "players" are an incredible waste of skin that queue up an alpha game for a thousand hours so they can ignore the 3 people in their lane and throw a kudzu bomb at npcs, being forced to lane with one of these creatures is an excruciating experience where the best you can hope for is to simply be bored
>>551583059put me on valve payroll and I will
>>551583059Valve's incompetence when it comes to multiplayer balancing almost makes me wish I was in game development, I'd love to just take matters into my own hands
>>551582434The problem is that when people leave right when the wave is about to crash
think if I dont get a good team comp and good team im gonna just run it down mid and fed until next game, I am NOT having fun playing Yama with a 12 game loss streak with her
Holiday and Sinclair were playing for ornaments on the enemy team today, at least I got the one I had worked all day on because of it.
>>551583323You're welcome.
>ivy on my team named "girl sweat huffer"holy tranny
>>551585130if they leave then take the wave, this is actually a self expose on how you view the game right now, your lane can get ahead total money wise if you solo the wave while they run boxes, your lane partner may have silently decided laning with you was akin to CBT and left to run boxes or gank another lane, you adapt by recognizing this and farming the wave as safely as you can, losing a guardian barely matters as there is no reward for taking them besides slight map pressure, but in the unlikely event they commit hard for it your team has 3 in another lane and will do the same
do mina players think theyre good at the game when they win lane
>trying to get a snowball kill>accidentally press my ult
>>551580137
3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQchosen people vs. goyim
Dynamo is pretty fun, picked him because of the ornament but I had a great time stomping the shit out of people
Can you even change the buttom of the Snowball? I want to set it to Mouse 4
>15 minute mark>enemy Vyper is 25k ahead of everyone elsewhat in the goddamn
>>5515886316/12
>be pocket>build duration + range>press 4 in teamfights>100k+ damage donei'm helping
>>551588631hmm i think i will join and play a broken rapist hero like shiv and get mad and ragequit when my team is losing
3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQchosen people vs. goyim 7/12
Alright got halfway through the challenge which was my goal. Which retard friendly heroes are left for me?
>>551589589haze, drifter, gay talon, pocket
>>551589589Doorman
>>551589671Guess I'll go with haze and drifter then, but I fucking suck playing as hypercarries besides Wraith. I hate playing snipers and I'll 100% get my skills mixed up as pocket, he seems complicated as fuck >>551589841Is gunman still viable?
>>5515886319/12Need 3 more.
>>551589918drifter is easy as fuck, just be mindful of his dogshit attack range compared to someone like wraith or haze. also don't play with music on, it's easy to find people to gank through the heartbeat sound cue
>>551589918>Is gunman still viable?they super nerfed him, people stopped playing it for a bit but then realized it was still good so we're back to it being his best build again.
God i fucking hate Mcginiss mains. It's something everyone has experienced, she arrives at lane and just stat checks the shit out of you. You can't trade because her minigun outdamages you, she has infinite heals, infinite lane prio, your tower is dead by 3 minutes and your walker before 10. The only hope is if your team ganks, and they never do, so she also farms your entire jungle and you lose the game in 20 minutes because she's 40k souls by then. I'm fucking Mirage, how am i supposed to win the lane against her when i have scarabs every 40 seconds and level 1 djinns mark? It's impossible to push the wave, impossible to trade. Might as well just afk in the base and wait for the game to end
>>551590617I think most of the charge abilities in this game need a harder cap on how many you can have, every fight with a McGinnis past like 3 minutes is just her popping 3 turrets that start shredding you while her minigun finishes you off. I have no clue what the fuck they were thinking with her.
I genuinely think top builds should reset every month or so. The current system has people always picking the same top builds which make it so they're always at the top, and so we get horrible builds stuck there forever. Half of Viscous top builds are the horrible "troble from the deep" series, Doorman has the cuckman build where the dude straight up admits that he doesn't play the character and the build is bad. Most top builds for most characters are just straight up bad, but people keep picking them and they never change.
>>551590967the only explanation is they want the suggested builds to be bad landmines for people to step on because it makes them think for themselves.
>>551591237There's more explanations than that
has billy been nerfed yet
need 4 retards3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ3TDKQ
>>551591596is it the express map?
>>551592204regular inhouse
I hate laning. Laning makes the entire game irrelevant. Laning is by far the biggest skill expression in the game, you lose lane and you lose the game. There's no point to anything after 10 minutes because if you lost your lane you just get snowballed to death. Not to mention how ganks are not a thing in this game, so if someone on your team loses the lane you also lost and there's nothing you could have done about it. I fucking hate laning so much. It's so stupid that this small part of the game makes up for like 90% of what matters in a match
sometimes i legitimately feel bad for the enemy team due to comp or outright skill difference. This match sucked for them, man.
>>551579332What about echo shard hook?>>551589424>God forgive me
>>551589589im down to yamato and viscous.I cannot win.Im just letting RNG give me busted teammates to carry me to a win because im just running it down mid and feeding
just four left....
Afk'd in base four games in a row today because the matches were already in an unwinnable state at 10 minutes as all lanes lost, great game love wasting my time
>>551593310
longest hook known to man and robot
>>551593443Genuinely thoght, it feels that if you spend the first 3 waves of the game under your tower, the match is over and you lost. I really believe you can correlate the first 3 waves clashing wiht your tower to you losing the match with 80% accuracy
>>551593310>>551593702moba players need to be killedgo back to league you're such a child
>>551593310This game needs to let me reach through the screen and strangle retards like yourself, just abandon so you stop wasting everyone's time dealing with your autistic ass
>>551593676Once again asking why Holliday's ult is just a worse Bebop grab
>>551593865What the fuck am i supposed to do though? You lose the lane, you're spending the rest of the game on the back foot, hoping like a little bitch that your team can carry you. The people in your lane are going to be stronger, gank other lanes and win. They're going to invade the jungle so you can't farm there either. It's over. You either win the lane or lose the game, and if it's an unwinnable gmae i'd rather just not play and save myself the humiliation of having to try getting scraps for the next 20 minutes. Lanes need to be less important, else i don't understand why there's even a game after the laning stage. >>551593950Stay mad and impotent, i AFK matches almost every day and i've never even gotten into low priority with 800 hours in the game
>>551594214>Stay mad and impotentt. guy spending his time AFKing an early alpha MOBA
>>551594257That's the thing, when i'm alt tabbed and afk i'm doing something else like work, watching youtube, playing another game. The other retards who keep playing are the ones wasting their time.
>>551594002because it's crowd control and she can move and bring them to a wall and start stacking barrels
>>551594381In my hundreds of games not once have I had that happen to me/seen it happen. That just seems like one of those hyper specific hypotheticals.
>>551594214This has gotta be bait. No way someone is 800 hours, and is afking like a bitch-baby in a goddamn alpha.
>>551594563its not bait, i'm just mad because the game is retarded and losing lane means you have a 90% chance to lose the game. Why would i keep playing past the lane then? Like, genuinely. It's a complete waste of time and it feels humiliating. I like games where i win the lane and then proceed to win the game. If i'm getting stomped in lane i'm just going to do something else. Mind you, i don't do this all the time, just in patches where the game is too skewed towards the laning stage, like in this one
As Dynamo, what do you do when your allies avoid you for almost the entire game? Whenever I was looking to join the fight to help my team after the laning phase, they'd disperse. The enemy team obviously didn't, so suddenly I'd end up alone, killed by 3-4 people. I had literally 1 assist that match. I don't think I ever had less than 6 before.
>>551594980you aren't just losing laneyou're playing against better players who happen to beat you in lane and go on to beating you for the rest of the game too.
>>551595282Sure, then why the fuck is the game placing me with players who are so much better?
>>551590794They've dumpstered her turrets countless times.There's no weapon damage falloff against them. Literally just shoot them. If it's late game then use spirit.Also, he turrets are useless if the enemy team have brains.Actual skill issue.
>>551595195Dynamo is a beast with his stomp if you're just playing him as a healcuck your doing it wrong
>>551595396t. Initiate McGinnis downplayer
>>551594458holliday has a bunch of random tech that you never see because she's already complex enough without it
>>551595195Stompmaxx
Is there any team that could hypothetically win against a team of 6 dynamos.I think playing against 6 quantum entanglements would be impossible
>>5515967456 sinclairs
>>551595396The turrets aren't really the problem, a good Mcginnis in lane will just have the turrets automatically get prio by just throwing them somewhere while also shooting your face with her absurd damage minigun while also standing on the heal, making any trade impossible. Meaning you can't shoot her, she's killing you AND she's pushing the wave so you'll never have prio. That's the combination that makes it so she takes the walker by 10 minutes
>>551596873Hmm I don't believe it
>>551592997I FINALLY got yamato done because I deranked to the fucking retard grade.I just want to get teammates that hard carry me like I usually get when im play heroes I normally play with and be done with it for good.
>>551597231the first fight would be a coinflip but the next fight would be easily won by the sinclairs since their ults would be back up in half the time.
>game crashes>rejoined and finished match>temp banned for 15 minuteswhat?
>dumpster wraith in lane as victor>literally 4 0 out of lane and having taken their jungle too>spend a lot of the game farming, clearing waves, participating in kills sometimes>end game as 13/1 with most kills>still same souls as the 6/4 wraith that basically afk farmed all game after laningthe amount of lenience they give to m1ggers to stay in the game is crazy. It doesn’t even matter that I skullfucked her in lane or even in her spawn at one point (I literally killed her in her spawn as she ulted me). The m1gger can just sit on lanes and do the camps in between at lightning speeds
Man Billy is rough when they parry your light melees
explain to me why match making is bad.
>>551599768It's way too broad, and too difficult to change ranks in general.>Eternus players can solo queue into phantom matches. >You could win/lose 20 times in a row and only change maybe 1 or 2 ranks so a lot of people are not where they belong.
>>551599509literally just don't swing at them until they parry
>>551600235I feel like it's too big a part of his kit to straight up not light parry, no?
>>551591237
>get doorman ulted>it bugs out and leaves me in the regular map and i can't leave>have to eat the deaththanks, icefraud/hotpoo/yoshit
>>551601530Why wouldn't you want to be in the regular map, dumb shit
TWO MORE WEEKSWhich hero are we voting for first, bros?
>>551602013you have to reach the exit in the hotel or you eat a shitload of damage, retard-kun
Can someone please leak some more stuff?
>>551602576ok but you'll have to post a picture of ivy
>>551602704I don't think I can find a picture of Ivy that hasn't already been seen though
>>551602191assuming venator is like mina and gets in firstthen im voting for graves
>>551602394That's the hotel, you're talking about the regular map, double nigger-coon
>>551602892I think Graves is coming first. They gave us Mina first because there's genuinely no chance anyone could win the vote against her because she's a cute girl, same with Graves. There's no point in having her in the voting because she will obviously win, so they might as well make her the first one
>>551602191assuming venator gets first i'm spending all my votes on rem, then it depends on what silver and pepper look like/their kitsthe new ixigger looks like he's fun so he might actually be my second pick
>>551602191I really wish they'd just release them all at once if they're ready. There's been enough waiting
>>551603228this, the voting system was fucking dogshit for matchmaking because EVERYONE was just trying to play the newest guy all at once.if they just launch the whole batch it's not everyone lining up for one particular character all at once.matchmaking is already bad enough as it is.
>>551602896yes you dumb cunt, i was stuck with the timer for the hotel as if i was sent to it but i didn't actually go anywhere. i just had to run around waiting to fucking explode, now kill yourself
>deer girl skin for billy>has antlers
>>551603662>weird feetthis anon doesn't get pawjobs from his waifu
>>551603228>>551603379voting is there because these heroes will be overtuned as hell. they need to nerf and change shit.better to have 1 giga busted hero in game than 5-6 running amuck
>>551603662anon, you are already know it’s a tranny skin made for trannies
>>551603839why didn't the trusted secret alpha alpha playtesters catch it in testing?
>>551603715the paws make it seem like a wolf-deer hybrid or something
>>551603662I prefer the dess one.
>>551604269the chosen people do no testing, they are having fun while we goyim wait for the scraps.
There’s absolutely no way I believe people are getting their ornaments without being in groups this games matchmaking is completely unplayable
>>551602191fencer. joining the war on fujos on the side of the fujos
>>551604898apparently his tech is crazy so he's my choice as well
>>551593310,>>551593702>>551594214>>551594341im trans if it matters
WHERES THE UPDATE YOSHIYOU SAID NOT UNTIL AFTER XMAS TICK TOCK TICK TOCK HURRY UP ANY SECOND NOW
>>551603228Nah the voting system lets each new hero get their own fanbaseIts also free engagement for like a month and a half
>>551587525clumsy nun hero when
>>551605530RELEASE THE FILES
yoshi im starting to remember.
>>551594002always thought bebop hook so f as r easier to deal with, get silence wave or remover or counterspell or whatever, cowboy's ult is far more lethal
>>551595195power gem is pretty much essential item, combine that with the teleport and four movement bars and you're pretty mobile, your job is to follow your teammates around, attack when they do, fall back when they do, generally you are hanging back anyway you're too fat and easy to hit to be a frontlinerI always found it's a bad idea to use black holes to start fights, they go much better when used mid fight when all of your allies are already blasting away with spells guns
>>551602892>>551603092I think the theory is that since Rem already has his files in the game it's assumed he'll be first
>>551605998The teleport moves you like 5 feet forward
>>551606861aye but that's expanded when you grab all the spell expansion items, and it's good impervious movement if you're being slowed down and shot at which happens a lot these daysit also moves upwards, so you can jump up into the air a lot higher than anyone else to grab building ledges
>>551607119also it's SUPER easy to teleport through walls (even up and down levels, and in/out of kelvin ulti) but I ain't never seen nobody else so it
>>551599236the fact someone can go 0/10 in lane and then just afk farm, getting away fast as fuck with the use of ziplines, and come back to carry makes this game trash as fuck
>>551603662why are furries this bad at character design? shouldnt omega-autismos be, yknow, more autistic about art and design? more throughout, overly thought out and carved out in a better way?
>>551600315Just hit em with Bashdown, 60% of the time they try to parry it or the Ram. Also, use Extra Charge obviously so you'll have more Bashdown's during a fight.
>>551608210the modder takes commissions and some things are lost in the transfer from reference sheet to 3d modeland the fact that it has to fit Billy's skeleton
>>551603662>>551604298NTA but, eh. feels more like just if Billy was female and a deer with two sets of freaky antlers and references mixed in. I mean, I still prefer it to this generic OC and there's an actual reason she has antlers too.
i can't wait until people start using mods to gain in-game advantages and valve is forced to enforce file integrity.though they probably want some modding community to bud so they can hire them to make skins later though.
>>551595396>they dumpstered her turrets countless timesher turrets aren't meant to be a killing weapon most of the time, theyre there to shoot off a chunk of the enemy's health and slow 'em to let you kill em off with your gun and/or wall. most of their damage comes from firerate buffs, not spirit scaling. even if at max level the game says they only have 100 dps, you need to remember that with heroic and T1 healing scepter that shit already doubles, add another +15% to that if you hit em with your wall and later on another +40% from healing tempo's firerate buff. thats about 260-270 dps from a single turret. now remember theres gonna be 3 or 4 of em placed there, plus ginnis is actively gunning you down during all this, with all those firerate and damage buffs also applying to her.>Literally just shoot themgood luck shooting them when there's 3 of em focusing you + shes gunning you down with her gun + theyre all standing in the healing field. you'd have to stay await from the whole teamfight in order to safely gun them down from afar, maybe except in lane. the best way to get rid of em later on is to kill em off with AoE damage if ginnis doesnt counter you with range upgrades/stuff stopping you from AoEing her shit (lash stomps, paige dragons or geist bombs come to mind)tl;dr: congrats, anon. youre retarded.sincerely, a ginnis player.
>>551609056they have already been doing that for months
>>551609274just walk out of the area man
>>551609056Nigger there are cheaters in about half of the games who the fuck cares about a timer mod
>>551602191Are we sure itll come out first or second week of jan?
>>551609923I've been using the same aim for a year kekaroo
>>551609923i mean actual advantages like changing materials and stuff to see enemies through walls and shit.
>>551609743that requires essentially moving the teamfight out of her reachits kinda outside of ginnis's agency, but a competent team will try to keep you inside her killzone or to capitalize on you giving turf up/relocating away from her
I need help with two questions:>how you know you're visible in the minimap? Troopers got line of sight like Heroes or what>When you want Escalating Exposure? On DoT effects or fuck it, its shit?
>>551608935>those horns and that patchthat's not just any OC. That's Dess Deltarune!
>>551610312idk about the first one, but escalating is for DoT effects or anything that bounces repeatedly, like seven's power surge or
>finally won as holiday, unironically think she is a just better MnK in every way besides the disarmeverything clicked once I realized that your jump pads are best used to get early game ganks and run away from a bad gank/ troll enemies by not using them like a fucking banana in mario kart
>>551609056>i can't wait until people start using mods to gain in-game advantagesdoes he know?
Mina's theme song: https://youtu.be/KaPBbxi3GZQ
>>551614873>not the Takane solohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnH0Kvl3thk
>>551614873ok but which one is mina
>>551608210>shouldnt omega-autismos be, yknow, more autistic about art and design?No? Did you miss Chris Chan? Autism is in 90% of cases a crippling disease that leaves you just above a drooling retard.
>>551615167You'll have to wait for a SFM video of Mina dancing for that. Or make it yourself.
>>551605601>Ixian nun
>>551615134Lady Geist
>>551608935I laughed hard the first time i saw this skin. I still laugh whenever I see it
>win 2 games in a row against retards>do so well the game proceeds to hand me the most unwinnable dog shit team mates that are each going 0-6 in lane>every game we're 60k networth down and my team keeps forcing fights until we just losethis game feels unplayable atm
>>551620518Why even go through the effort of installing a mod that servers only to make your character marginally uglier
>>551603662Reindeer do that
>>551620608the mod manager has it be a one click download and installi think the wedding theme is pretty cute
>>551587241Funneling doesnt work on ladder, its always better to duo until lane ends
i like knife haze
>>551621775hehe
>Player going crazy in Alchemist>Doing tech I only see in Ascendant and Eternus>Check account>Level zero no profileEveryTimeKill yourself if you do this, maybe you'll restore some of the honor your craven ass lost
>>551605998He's a great frontliner brother, ez to hit is what you want, he is literally the tankiest in game. Base hp almost on par with mo except he has built in bullet resist so the ehp is higher
>>551612167Comparing mnk and holiday is insane to me but carry on
Green Holiday. Think about it.
I'm not autistic enough to git gud with doorman and it's making me seethe
>>551622595What about him are you struggling with?
Green Doorman. Think about it.
>>551623954>majestic leap and warp stone>when you could simply echo shard your doors
Really insane the bias this game has for gun items. If you play spirit you are bound to cooldowns and animations, meanwhile with gun items you can shred everything with ease
>>551622832I just can't get a hold on what I should be doing with his doors most of the time and whenever I try to do the funny haha meme cart move through the door it never fucking hits and I cringe at myself every time I try. And his gun is a pain in the ass to use so even when trying to do a shitpost meta build or something it barely feels like its working out well.I'm not built for him, my tard brain can only handle ez chars.
>>5516242632 items>1 item. Simple as
>>551624754watch replays/streams of eternus level doormen.
>>551624881With that extra slot you can buy greater expansion
>>551623954You probably already know this but the best teacher will always be experience. Suffer now so that you may open doors of opportunities later.There are prob some vids you can watch for door setups in lane but even so you shouldn't hug those too closely as this game is all about ADAPTING given the current situation rather than playing on rails. If you ever wanna try him again then good luck, I hope you find your mojo.
>>551625887>dudes dig tunnels for Seven and wonder why Santa won't visit them
>>551625887
>>551625887>>551626221cute !
>>551626049Seven just stole those tunnelsThey do dig and smuggle stuff for Wraith so you may have a point
>>551626442there's a dialogue where Seven asks for new ones, the duo accepts but said it's gonna cost a lot
>>551626507>local workmen perform gainful employmenti fail to see the problem
>>551626442Trapper my beloved
what character requires the most amount of brain calculations per second to be functional?doorman?
>>551628796sinclair and it isn't close
>>551628796sinclair or hollidaydoorman is pretty straightforward aside from his 2
sinclair should also copy 1 2 and 3 for 12 seconds when you cast audience participationmaybe freeze the timer for assistant while using copy
>>551628796Mina
>>551630981When will Mina players stop kidding themselves? She is not hard to play, especially not with the green buff change
>>551630641As with every Sinclair suggestion this general sees, this too would make him absurdly OP
Sinclair should be deleted from the game
>Mo is the last hero I need to win with>lose 5 games in a row because he's only good early-to-mid and my team can't finish fast or win lategame
>>551628796>>551628949>>551629595
>>551631136>She is not hard to playLol.
>>551632198Wow you need to click on people so difficult a character
>>551631381what would this even really make do other than make him not a dead draft into a mina/haze/bebop/abrams/calico/mirage game
>>551632346And you have two dodges that make you have insane escapability and can negate some character's ultsVery profound and deep!Sometimes she might even have to use her swipe to chunk your health
>>551632346Yeah, and for you to actual proc your love bite you need to hit many bullets in quick succession. You need to put yourself in a position where they cant quickly hide and you need to actually land 5-6 bullets and cant whiff. Trust me, shit aimers wont have a good time with Mina>>551632552I guess every hero with a blink is easy then?
>>551632552lowest base health and lowest health scaling in the gameshe's pocket but with aimlabs instead of combos
>>551632552And infinite sustain so even if you fuck up it doesn't matterAnd that sustain can be used in the jungle too so there is never a reason past the first 10 minutes of the game to return to base. She is unique in the aspect by the way
>>551632540would give him tons of spirit nuke bullshit to spamwould give him way more free escape cards (mina dash, cube, entangle, pocket's kit, ava, pain battery, etc)would allow him to be so crazy flexible
>>551632782remove the 40% cooldown reduction on copy and it'd be fine probably
>>551632741I dont even remember the last time i lost against a Mina laneI dont even bother touching here, i just poke down the other person, and shove the wave in constantly. Basically always get the tower by minute 8 with our tower untouched
>>551632718Lowest base health doesn't matter as much now that green investment is flat health rather than % base. >>551632658It's so few bullets to proc it, especially considering how much damage it does. Infernus is much harder to proc with despite doing much less damage with his passive (early). Also, her 1 also builds it up which is something none of the other M1 passive characters have. And she can float around to get better angles for longer.
>>551632860Then you remove the fun part about him, willy nilly throwing out stolen ults, and turn him into just a wonkier version of another hero.
>>551633005follow the dynamo simulator isn't really all that interesting to be honest
>>551632872I've never lost a lane as MinaThis must be some wood rank shit
Aadisturbingly large segment of the population seems to equate low hp with hard and high hp with easy. I theorize this is because they are also playing damage only builds, on low hp heros this leads to an obvious weakness while on high hp heros its inherently more well rounded
>>551632937Infernus has 27 bullets, mina has 12, and his fire rate is way faster. Neither are easy to proc if you play properly against them. Thats my point. Only shitlows fear a mina lane
>>551633076iframes and movement abilities are hype and aurawhich is why shiv LOOKS more difficult than abrams even though that is not the case
>Dumb nigger backseating me on what to do as Doorman as I carry his fat ass over the finish line both in kill participation, obj damage, soul count, and overall damageI wish I wasn't communication restricted.It was like Valve put me in my own personal hell where I need to keep this faggot on for his callouts but also I don't have a way to tell him to DIE A MILLION DEATHS BECAUSE I DONT LISTEN TO SHITTERS FUCKING NIGGER RETARD
>>551635767>Erm why did you say both when you listed more than 2 thingsBecause I looked back at the scoreboard as I typed this and realized it was more than 2 categories and I didnt bother to erase the "both" FUCK YOU
>>551635767but i'm sure you listen to everything you're told when the person backseating you is carrying the game right?lol....
>>551635767you sound like you have severe anger issues and/or are 16 if you cant go five second without saying slurs
>>551635892>I hope you, the guy playing Doorman, listen to your carry whenever you're not in the driver seat XDWhy are retards like you allowed to draw breathlol...>>551635975Shhhhhhhhh I think you're a fat redditor who tries to psychoanalyze people because he's self important and got raped as a kidFuck off
uh oh ritualist meltie
>>551636047>rape and molestation are le funny XDyou are either physically or mentally 16, grow up
>>551602191Venator first then Silver if she's sexo.
>>551636301They're not funny and you thinking I meant that as a joke shows how demented and self serving your observations are.Please spare me any more of your drivel you drooling baboon
>>551635767little niggy is seething
>rape and molestation are le fun- *gets raped*
>>551631631Bunny build with Magic Carpet is fun, don't you dare take that away from me.
>>551635767How do you get put in communication restricted? Ive started flaming useless teammates a bit more often, is it gonna get me restricted from talking?
do you prefer marble bridge lane or the wood bridge lane
>>551637629The garden cuz it has all those little stones that you can microslide on.
>10 characters left for ornaments>on a 6 game losing streakI don't have it in me to complete this bullshit
>>551637532I think you're fine as long as you don't say Nigger or Nigga.The first one was for calling an infernus on the enemy a nigger after he bitched the entire match about his team(very heroic I know).The second one I think it was because I kept saying things along the lines of "die for israel" or "good goy"I usually don't type so I couldn't really pinpoint it, sorry.
>>551637952Well i dont use those types of words anywhere even 4chan bans you for that nowadays
>>551637952>I kept saying things along the lines of "die for israel" or "good goy"you are mentally unwell btw
>>551638075>chud friendgroup that used to say le n word all turned into idubbz fags that whine about people saying le n word because they have gfs now and need to be woke for pussy>cant even say le n word on here without getting a 3 day ban
>>551638075Yeah it isn't even satisfying to get out, kinda bland these days. Probably just going to take a vow of silence and only say mild things out of frustration because being muted is actually hell
>>551638103That's anti-semitic
>>551638258>and need to be woke for pussymost people grow out of their edgy phase as they experience the world and wise up to the narrow stereotypes forced down their throat by stormfront and /pol/. you don't need an extrinsic motivation to be a good person.
>>551638639Bludthony really working for that crumb :wilting_rose:
>Yoshi online yesterday>online right nowBros? Are they back to work?
>>551638930projection levels off the charts. will anon ever realise how pathetic posting this makes him look? probably not
>>551639059Who are you talking to
>being a racist, bucktooth chud because you're a dork, and can only get attention through rage bait>even >>551638258 's friend group has to go to the other side of the spectrum to get laid instead of being themselvesMaybe I'm wrong. Just looks likes it sucks not having a personality. Religious people share the same profile, desu.
>>551639345Can you talk about deadlock already
>>551638930>can't even express himself without using buzzwords anymore>why do my friends leave mesad
YOSHI! GIVE VYPERS NEW MODEL GIANT BOUNCING BOOBIES AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
>>551639617Not OPGood try though:)
Ornament hunt is simultaneously one of the best and worst ideas they've had
>>551639463oh yeah, *ehegrm*GIANT, PALE, GEIST ASSCHEEKSFINNA s c o o p THAT ASSHOLE LIKE A HAUNTED PUDDING CUP
>>551639676Lizards don't have breasts THOUGH
WHO GETS VOTED IN FIRSTWHO GETS VOTED IN LAST
>>551640336GravesIf she summons little minions I want to make the enemy laner as miserable as possible
infernus remodel leak
>>551640336is pepper a burlesque performer?
>>551640009it's really the fact that there's a visual indicator of your rank, and the matchmaking being wonky. on full release (or even when ARAM drops during the alpha) getting the ornaments or challenges will probably be much more enjoyable.I had a lot of fun playing every character, but I'm back to playing supports because they warp the game.
>>551640027trvke
>>551640217it's fantasy so anything can happen
>>551640336Rem is the reddit/discord pick
>>551640336nearly 5 months without an update and we just get 6 characters grim.
>>551640605Street Fighter players wait 6 months for just a gameplay trailerBe happy with what you have
>>551640484>>551640027
>>551640336venator, rem, or pepper gets in firstfirst vote is graves
>>551640605It'll bring players back, I'm tired of being matched with the same people constantly
>>551640336Venator is the valve pickGraves is the first vote
>>551640336Venator, Pepper, Silver, Rem, Graves, Fencer.I'm going off of vibes for Silver. If her base design is boring normie safe enough, she could be first.
Heres a questionWould Silver have a better chance if her default model was a cute human girl or a furry?
>>551640823and how long will those players stick around? I dont want to be an asshole, but if you want to sustain a player base with this kind of alpha, you need to keep updating it frequently
>>551640605and a base redesign, and a new gamemode, and new jungle creeps
>>551641149it depends, but if she was furry all the time she would be more popular ala billy
>>551640336Rem wins the vote if (it isn't the valve pick)
>>551641210well never mind then, its gonna be a good update and im hyped
>>551641149It depends on whether they want to appeal to weebs or furries more
>>551641594>>551641210New jungle creeps might not be real
Does Venator actually have that shitty mohawk
>>551641835they were in the experimental files
>>551641852not a mohawk, half of his face was badly burned so theres no hair on that side>>551641903so was the vyper remodel in fucking february
>>551641852um what
>>551642000Heh mb it looked like a mohawk with ant vision
deadlock if it was good:>Haze: Good, you made it.>Abrams: That you, Haze? I see the OSIC roped you into this too.>Haze: A Sandman's job is never done. But we can talk later. Seven's hideout is just up ahead.>Abrams: I thought I sensed some sparks in the air.>Haze: Focus, A. Seven is about to summon the Patron, and you know what that means. >Abrams: Yeah, trouble...>Haze: Exactly, so watch your back. Oh, and if you find any Sinner Sacrifices out there, make sure to grab them too. Collect enough and I might just have an upgrade waiting for you.>Abrams: You're the boss, Haze.
Deadlock if it was in Midwest America>DESTROY THOSE SHRINES AND SEND MY BROTHER TO HELL
Deadlock if it was in 1930s America >KICK THAT IXIAN BITCH OFF THE PLANE! IXIGGER!
deadlock if it was dogshit>ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR THE SAPPHIRE FLAME! BIIIIIIIIG WIN!
Do you guys have any games you play where your teammate Bebop is actually useful?I swear this hero is totally useless unless im blind to its impact
>>551609274>the set up character has an advantage while in her set up zonehow long have you been sitting in this information.
I tried vyper once for a snowball, and I decided I will not play this character again until she gets the remodel with a snake tail instead of legs
how do you lane against a geist as vindicta holy fuck she deals so much damage
I hope Vyper turns into a gorgon and not a snake furry.
>>551645341Would be a waste of a design on a dumb whore that fucks billy
>>551641835The One Piece does exist.
>>551645341They could do both... They SHOULD do both.
>>551640336Unless Pepper is just super hit, Rem will probably be first. Rem might be first, anyway. Cute mascot buff.
who will be the most souls?>the woman that prints money from ult>the three candidates for gun carry>mo
>>551650182What the actual FUCK are those mods?!
>>551640413my nigga
>>551640336Venator in with the updateRem first vote easilyGraves 2nd voteFencer 3rdPepper 4thSilver 5th
I want to hang myself.
>>551640605most games don't even get 1 character in 5 months
max0r deadlock videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmvf27e1gXA
>>551650270i downloaded a mod that makes mo and krill to have a cool suit :D
>>551651838>UnlistedStop shilling your video faggotgo kill yourself
>>551651838Oh shit, thanks.
>>551640452holy MOLY, I will now main infernus.>>551640605I don't even need new characters, I just need the balance to not be rancid fucking dogshit.idk if it's the rose tinted glasses but I swear the game felt so balanced before the item update aside from the few obvious outliers like Warden and Seven.
>>551640452Is this supposed to be male or female?
>>551651331>win on vinboobtaNew main?
>>551637952>got to say the no no wordYeah figures. We can't possible make being a cunt in general restrictable because that might actually lead to the game being pleasant.
>haven't touched calico since hero labs>doing her ornament>she's fun as fuck >game was also my normal rankWtf. So far the most enjoyable games I've had have been Wraith and Calico, I'm getting ebonypilled
>>551622259> use jump pads to setup gank> hit headshot barrel combo> lasso and then pull them back into your team
>>551654504Calico is fun but she feels very comp dependant. If the enemy team is full of bruisers (Billy, Shiv, Mo, Abrams, Victor) then she can feel useless.
>these are all the heroes I have left to doThis is gonna be painful
>>551621674its unironically better to leave your lane if you get a worthless chud duo than to to torture yourself and lose slowly for 10 minutes, even if who you leave behind fucks it up you can recover in other ways, ironically this mentality is part of why it doesnt work, these fucking subhumans with 0 flexibility and ability to adapt get coddled and then think you are the one trolling because you dont play every game like its fucking league of legends and you need to be trapped in a retard chamber with them because matchmaking said so
>>551628949>>551629595>>551631662Whats the story behind the Sinclair in conplex meme
>>551654939Yes and its totally different to mnk, the similarities is they can play for picks and thats it
so does lash use magic or is he just awesome naturally or something
>>551654504SEX SEX SEX SEXSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXI NEED A BLACK WOMANNOW
>>551656319Read his bio, it tells you everything you need to know
>>551656164The souls duplicate my brother, if you go box its a net negative for the boxer and the team as a whole. Pros can setup a carry to get 100% and get online quicker but this is not something you can reasonably expect on ladder with randos
Haze down. My 13th game as her, ever. It's hard to adjust to just having to hold M1 at someone and sometimes throw a dagger. Using a spirit build definitely helps.
>>551656769>that dynamo buildWhat the bacon
>>551656526its really funny when some archon shitter talks down like they understand the gamelisten retard, people arent leaving the lane because its "optimal" every time, guess what else isnt optimal, losing your fucking lane because you have an inbred watching you 1v2 because they played some shit like ivy and got boosted, you arent leaving lane because its "funneling" either, youre doing it because its reasonably efficient even if its not 100% the most efficient soul generation so you can actually make something happen, watching night shift has complete rotted your critical thinking, you arent playing with hyper competent people even in eternus and yet you think optimal soul generation in the first 5 minutes is remotely relevant
>>551656526>if you go box its a net negative for the boxer and the team as a whole.no, it's not.you only get 8% more if two players are in a lane (108%, 54% for each player)if it's just one player that one player gets 100%.you are right on random matchmaking teammates being retards and thinking you're throwing by abandoning them though.but when i do it it's usually because laning with them is total asscancer and i'd rather box farm and leave them to their own devices.
>>551656234He didnt say they were the same just that holliday is better than Mohammed and Kareem. Between moe, paradox, and holliday, holliday is the only one that doesnt have to risk her life for a pick
>>551656924what about da 'bop
>>551656968Winrate too low for anyone to remember him
>>551656986No greens?
>>551656841Meant for >>551656841
>>551656896>only 8%Its compounding, thats still a lot>>551656878I get that your mad but you are throwing
>>551656986based stompgod
>>551655618if you won with vindicta you can do grey talon. for keks do an owl build and kill fleeing people who would otherwise be out of line of sight
>>551657594>I get that your mad but you are throwingits funny that in a month you will be parroting what I just told you because a deathy or metro made a youtube for you, little arrogant shitter
>>551657870>made a youtube for youholy esl
>>551658002I just woke up sue meanyways I accept your concession
https://gamebanana.com/mods/642210https://gamebanana.com/mods/636528who wore it better?
so how come unstoppable works during bebop ult but not seven’s
>guy on team accuses enemy warden of cheating>he's a heavy melee spamming driftoid who didn't know about the loud as fuck sound cue when you heavy melee>warden buys counterspell and is just hitting parry just for the chance to counterspell shit>everyone else on our team shits on him but not drifter ergo warden is cheatingholy cringe
>>551658517trick questionhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/619938
Is Gunman still good
>>551658765incorrect.https://gamebanana.com/mods/633325
>>551658517doorman.
>>551656986your dynamo for the match
>>551658775hes alright but the truth is the average doorman is so unskilled at the character they would still get better results as a gunman build
>>551659091extended range and majleap are good for ratting and being an urnbot if you wanna go that route.
>>551658542Seven can't use items during his ult, same with Infuser for instance. You need to activate them before pressing 4
>>551658171That wasnt me thobeit and I doubt the utube is gonna reccomend abandoning waves and box maxxingEven if it did I wouldnt listen because im capable of critical thought
>>551640336I swear if Rem isn't the automatic first I'll be annoyed. Not because I want to play them, but because that basically guarantees they waste a voting period since Rem's an auto win.
>>551659957They shouldn't even have a vote. Its clear the plebians cannot be trusted with such responsibility
I hope they make graves hot like mina before release, I don’t like fortnite
>>551658679had this exact experience with a billy player just the other day, he was extremely telegraphed and would always light melee the second he was in range and he cried parry scripts when we started parrying it
>>551659957venator is the auto vote win thoughbeit
Man, Holliday is really fucking hard to play.
>>551656986>takes all of the farm>can't position ults properly>claims that its alright because heal scales with spirit>doesn't heal anyone but himself>gets CC'd as soon as 2 is over>gets CC'd as soon as ult starts>blames you for loss
>>551640605>15 characters in 1 year
>>551659957The fact Mina was the autopick means Graves will be the autopick.
>>551640336single releases at a time is dogshit. just release them all
>>551661670this is true
just witnessed a mo get cursed three times in a row back to back KEK
>>551662250If you managed to curse someone thrice in a row and didn't kill them you're obviously getting outplayed
NOW MAURICE
>>551662691MORRIS!!!!!!!
>>551621968poor boobie dog :(
inhouse later tonight ?
>>551664115fuck no
>>551637952ive wrote plenty a genocidal lithanies on chat across numerous matches yet ive never even got comms restricted. is it because i only badmouthed eastoids and balkaners undeserving to live?
this faggot was duo queued with a paige and abandoned after going 0-5 in lane on vindicta
they should add more stats to the boon poollike ability duration, range etc
>>551664551
>>551664551>>551664767What am I supposed to do with this information
>>551664865nothing
>>551658814>https://gamebanana.com/mods/633325they should make a bunny suit mo build (with krillian in a hijab so that i dont have to look at him)
Need...Silver...
>>551610462"this OC" as in the other one posted, not the Dess one
>>551624638reloads are supposed to be a cool down but then you have shit like 400 bullet hazes running around late game
every single time I play a new hero>get 2 kills in lane>"this hero is pretty fun">team score 3 minutes in: 2 kills vs 18, haze has a 12 killstreak
>>551665785haze scales mag size with spiritshe's supposed to have an endless magazine billy scales magsize with playing rock paper scissors wraith already has a stupid mag size basevyper scales mag size by dragging her pussy on the floor
>>551662583>warps in on our team mate>gets cursed to cancel combo>tries to burrow>gets cursed>gets cursed again because he has 4000 HP to chew through>dead>loses gameyeah really outplayed us
>>551666003This just happened to me>win lane so hard that we kill their guardian in 5 minutes and walker in 9>it doesnt matter because mcguiness somehow died 8 times in lane and that started the yamato snowball
>>551666003yeah same>pick seven>farm 40k>show upto team fight press ult press infuser press unstoppable and ult >blast the entire enemy team to 20% HP>look around>my team is hiding tooholy fuck.
>>551664115I used to host a lot of them, but now>doesn’t fill anymore especially because of newfags and discord troons who sit in there in ten minutes to have a melty about waiting and leave>spergs cry about who you play, what you build, and dupes>dogshit patch and no update
>>551666498the reality is>heavily mixed skill level game>fags stacking on the one team to make it even more one sided>pick S tier hyper cancer and stomp on people 30 ranks below them>nobody has fun>gradually everyone stops wanting to play inhouses and goes back to pubbingsame shit happened in d2g
>>551666439>we lost this game because one dude fed the enemy>NO IT COULDNT BE THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY THAT THE ENEMY PLAYER IN THAT LANE WAS GOOD/SMURFINGwhy do retards do this? it's pretty obvious you encountered a duo that was better than everyone else in the lobby. Playing winning lane does not end with them dominating that hard otherwise you would have snowballed as well (especially on Ivy). Soul bounties also decrease when the person is dying a lot/ doesn't have that many souls, so for her to have an almost 40k soul lead means that player was not just dumpstering retards
>>551661521many such cases
>>551666450>going ult seven instead of infusering your 3
>>551666498>>551666680bitch niggers be ragequitting games n shiet
why do you guys play inhouses when you can just stack into matchmaking?
I dont know about people here, but I only joined once, then the update happened, and I have been trying to get the ornaments, maybe people are doing the same thing as I do?
>>551667792Yeah why would I inhouse when I'm trying to complete ornaments. Shit takes forever so if I'm deadlocking I'm ornament maxxing
>>551579230this was my last fucking match>had zero fucking objective damage as mcginnis becasue our vyper kept kamizing himself so much during the match i couldn't even get near their guardians>had to be the lane janny for the whole match>every other player fed their lane, we lost every single one>others were just kamikazing themselves into mega fed enemies>they even decided to attack the whole enemy team out of our base when they had rejuvenatorsit was easily the worst match I ever had. I knew it was over when vyper was didn't dash to shoot even once. The match before that one had a bepbop spamming the chat 24/7.
>>551668543>your deadlock on orniggers
>>551668543I understand why they increased the souls from kills, but holy shit does it make some games unwinnable if your team ints and ints to mega fed niggas.
I think...I'm a victor main now...
You know that reborn fresh feeling you get after a nice shower with some clean, warm clothes?Don't you just love ruining that feeling with a match of deadlock?I do
here's your team brofuck valve for thinking this is ok
>>551669127the optimal play is>deadlock after din din>jerk off into shower after ending on win>cap night with comfy single player game
vindicta is so fucking cancer in lane, how do people still downplay her
>>551670315every cute girl gets retards that play her, and retards need lategame hypercardies to win gamesThey cannot understand using your soul lead from laning to support the team and soften up enemies in a rather uncounterable way
>>551669662when every lane gets demolished it can't be anything but a matchmaking error right?
>>551602191it's not february in two weeks though
>>551670665assuming every lane is a 50/50 skill wise, and not taking into account lane matchups, its the same as flipping a coin 3 times(assuming you also lost lane because you are a whiny bitch) and hitting 3 heads or tails in a row, thats 1 in 8 games
>>551670315wait until you play a vindicta/mo lane. actual giga aids
>>551670482>They cannot understand using your soul lead from laning to support the team and soften up enemies in a rather uncounterable wayi like doing this as mina and it helps that she's basically lane hitleran early soul lead + spirit sap + ult gank will fuck people UP
>>551670315Its a high rank thing so most people dont experience it
nice ranking system, bro
>>551672979It knows you were carried
>>551668543>>551668703>>551668806this was my second game today. 3 losses in a row.this holliday challenge was fucking garbage. too many people playing character for the first time. holliday made gun build and didnt even know how to hit barrels. haze and billy were so mega fed the match was over from the start.
>orniggers
wood bracket faggots real uppity here latelynobody cares about your drooler games
I had a dream that they released a massive 12 v 12 snowy field control points mapAnd that they also released two new heroes Doug and Stuart Little
>>551673473add santa
I don't know if geist ult is bugged in the hideout or if it isn't actually like terrorblade ult at all because I can spam if while at full hp on the abrams bot and his hp just steadily chunks down to low hp while mine stays full
>>551640513ivy doesnt have em, why would vyper do?>>551650182mo, because the rest of the cast got ruined by your bad taste
>>551650182i actually cant tell who those characters are. consider suicide
>>551651838damn i actually have a headache trying to read and watch everything he put in that video
>>551651838max0r is actual slop dogshit. buy an ad
This nigga Metro has to go back to EU he can't hang with us NA chads. I tuned into his stream and he's 1-5 and constantly crashing out about how the NA players on his team just can't play the game like they do in EU.
>>551674529He's so dog shit we don't want him either
I don't know how to play Infernus.
>>551673893Geist ult does a minimum amount of damage.
>>551673962because ivy was carved without them by some lesbian bitch and vyper is using a temporary male character model from neon prime so yoshi better make the right decision and give vyper BIG JIGGLY SNITTIES
>>551674801>stop feeding people>start burning people
>>551651838wtf is wrong with his voicewhy does he say everything like a minecraft youtuber for 6 year olds presenting a new huggy wuggy mod
>>551674801Rapid fire, Improved Spirit, Swift Strike, Basic Mag, QSR. Congratulations. You now win almost every lane fight. Don't forget Toxic bullets, Duration and Richochet too.
>>551624754I've noticed the best way to use his doors is either to be a opportunistic cunt or a massive coward;possible team fight? leave a Door on the edge of your range where you think it'll be, you get jumped into 200hp? bailyou win teamfight? use door to help team catch anyone that bailed or help move them a quarter of the map over to help push.steal their farm while keeping a Door in a odd spot for easy escape, push lanes with easy escape, steal runes instantly. laning against someone with 20 hp left? pop a door and pop his skullits all about granting opportunities while removing theirs, Doorman can fundamentally fuck the entire enemy team if you talk to your team
>>551675101What's his strategy like?>>551675132This is the build I'm using, copy of Molten Fury.
>>551674801you put napalm on people and hold m1 on themhe has the most straightforward game plan of any hero except for maybe haze
>>551674801deadlock is simple.you get the soul lead and snowball everyone.>i was not able to get the souls lead, someone on the other team took itthan you lost. there is a chance to turn it around but for that to happen your team needs to be coordinated in the first place, and if you truly were coordinated you would have the soul lead in the first place. now please wait patiently while the other team farms your whole camp, stomps your ass without having to push and stalls the game until the 60 minute mark.Thank you for playing deadlock and wait for January EOS update.
>>551675720I guess that's the issue. I'm bad at holding M1.
I dont like swift striker. I think for early gun items its better to go for conditionals like kdash+ burstfire as they come with higher values.
>>551675923You sound like a whiny bitch.
>>551676013then you can't really play Infernus at full capacity, especially after they made it take more bullets to apply his 3 if you aren't landing headshotsyou can do the dashmax build but it's been nerfed, still fun though
>>551674529are you telling me I shouldn't listen to metro?
>>551674529>I tuned into his streamkys
what the fuck is this matchmaking bro. I'm phantom getting into archon games with whatever the fuck is the red and gold ranks under that?!?!!? Hero mmr is BRUTAL
>>551676175hit too close to home huh?
>>551674529>watching streamersngmiif you dont actively go out of your way to kill anyone with ttv in their name you are also ngmi
>>551676369Ornament Hunting causing mass rank degrades and low playercount mixing the ranks already has combo'd into a complete clusterfuck
>>551676369there are too many new players and people trying new characters so the matchmaking is absolutely atrocious. Even fi you are in the correct rank there are still multiple players from lower ranks that can land on your team. had a vyper that didn't know how to dash and shoot and a holliday that could not hit anything 2 games in a row.
>>551676718guess Ill wait for the event to be over. played a couple of matches and it was already enough shitshow to last until the next update
>>551672960How it FEELS to hit the 4.8k spike
>game gives me unfair games when i want to play relaxed>start smurfing and go 30/0 every game in initiateok
>make a new build>"oh thats (literally who)s old build"
>playing Drifter for the first time because of the ornament>go 4/0 in lane against sinclair and seven>sinclair quits, everyone in their team quits as well once the banner pops up, except for mo and infernus>mo and infernus start scaling super hard and get to 40k souls 12 minutes in >everyone tries to avoid the raid bosses as our creeps destroy their patronStill don't know if it was cringe or kino
>>551676291Half the tier list makes no fucking sense and is all over the place. Idk if it's ragebaiting or genuine, but>Ginnis/wraith - Sat best wraith is A if she has her teams support. Otherwise she is a free kill half the time and heavily relies on being carried well into the midgame. Ginnis in the current meta is just bad unless you let her do whatever the entire game.>mina/haze/paigeS tier in most matchups. Mina has infinite mana, iframes, insane burst, lane sustain and an AOE silence. Haze is the best roamer currently and solo kills are insane value. Paige is S tier simple as>calico - Bshe's still insane early and very versatile and you can easily snowball into a near unstoppable gun carryThere's a lot more, but this tierlist is dogshit.
honestly valve should just shamelessly rip off hazbin hotel and do a radio demon hero like Alistair
>>551678871>Idk if it's ragebaiting or genuineit is metro's tier list that he did live.so probably a little bit of both
>>551678878no clue what hazbin hotel is but ive wanted a sultry radio voice in the hideout since it's creation, and it's gotta be like the one vtmb listing events and taking callers and shit. there's a radio building on map im pretty sure so it makes sense thematically
>literally never played geist before>top hero damage and top objective damage>lose because my Holliday is worried about her kd and my bebop has downsAAAAHHH
>>551677235based as FUCK
>>551679128Hazbin hotel is just made by some random youtuber who somehow managed to get an animation studio to make her mediocre do not steal oc into a fairly successful amazon cartoon
>>551679128>no clue what hazbin hotel isits the western cartoon currently beloved by gay teens (remember steven universe? both have obnoxious fanbases like that)its also notorious for the whole "swearing = funny" thing because someone says fuck or shit every five seconds
>>551679575it put me at phantom iv but it's still giving me initiate games lmao
>tranny cartoon talkI get that the general is dead but cmon
>>551680196Are the trannies in the room with us right now?
>>551680283They're the ones discussing the show, yes
>>551680196you don't know how worse it can get
>>551680283well, as far as we know you're not inside anyone's walls right now
>>551680196its my fault for not knowing <current popular thing on twitter/tiktok>
>>551680196most generals on this board are just gooners sharing softcore porn with each other, and schizos schizoing out for 500 posts straight
you guys should be catching up on your single player backlog right now
>>551680634I was playing blasphemous until a persistent glitch blocked my progress, piece of shit game.
do you guys think we get a terrain cosmetic similar to how it works in dota?day version, night version, underwater version etc
>>551680786You mean you don't know that you can change the background in game already?
https://www.twitch.tv/komikag>this is the average deadlock player
>>551680786hopefully we won't so we can get straight up new mapsthe one thing i hate the most about ASSFAGGOTs is that 99% of them force a 1 map format
THIS Is the average deadlock player (mina spammer)
>>551681821>different streets and areas on nyc>ixian side of town is completely dilapidated you fight in literal trashhmm really makes you think
>>551681765Ew get this tranny off my screen!
>>551651838>Maz0r covers Deadlock>current matchmaking is so fucked new players are getting shitstomped by people 3x their rankwould the massive influx of players help the matchmaking or worsen it
>>551682975Worsen it for a while, it'll be better in a month, then worse again as people leave again in 2-3 months.
>>551681821This. I really don't see why they do this.
>>551681765>billy players are tranniesas expected
>>551675109because most of max0rs viewers are teenagers>>551682975>>551683076the matchmaking is already atrocious, at least i wont be getting matched with the same people constantly anymore (with the only difference between matches being if theyre on my team or the enemy team)
>>551683367him being a rich poser punk flies over their heads (because most leftists and trannies are rich suburban kids) and most trannies are satanists so they also like that about his aesthetic
>>551683367his whole brand is holliday though
>>551682975More players=better mmEven if they are all uncalibrated noobs because then they can play each other
>>551681765this faggot appears on my twitch "live channels" list every fucking time I open the site, despite never watching his streamdoes twitch just give preferential recommendations for trannies and other degenerates
>>551684446>does twitch just give preferential recommendations for trannies and other degeneratesyes? this is widely known
>>551683673I was checking out billy's voicelines on youtube and I saw so many seething leftists leaving comments about him not being cool enough or being mad at punk not being "properly represented", it's so funny how delusional they are
>>551681765>open link>1k behind everyone else on his team 4 minutes inLOL
>>551681765>Why AI voice? It sorts out my stutters WARNING I DO NOT CLAIM TO HAVE A SPEECH IMPEDIMENT! I JUST GET NERVOUS AND HONESTLY I FEEL MORE COMFY BEHIND IT! I AM NOT DISABLED OR CHALLENGED IN ANY WAY!. I neither claim to be an anime character!, but the AI voice is trained on Venti's English voice lines. I'm sorry if it annoys you it does not come off for any reason.NIGGA ISNT EVEN USING HIS OWN VOICE KEK>DONATIONS: Help pay for my college! And HRT lol. Completely not needed just your existence is awesome!Average Trannylock player
>>551684729yeah true, I guess I meant it more rhetorically
>>551684901pic related needs to be a universal option on every website/game/app on the internet
>>551684446They appear if they're somehow related to the channel you're watching, like if they share viewers or raid each other
>open rank 1 sweatlord stream>start telling him how to play betterYour welcome
>game refuses to give me good games and constantly gives me this bullshit>""""smurf""""">10x my normal rankreally makes ya Think >>551669662>>551669662>>551669662
>>551685356yeah but that account is a fucking nobody though, every other recommendation is at least tangentially related to other streamers I follow
>>551685450That metric doesnt really matter, its a lot easier to put up good numbers vs noobsyou could have "top 1% accuracy" playing against seekers but that would drop significantly against better players with better movement/cover usage ect.
>>551684901Why would a filter even help if you hear your actual voice in real life anyway
>>551685865all my games on my main gives me retarded teammates at phantom like >>551669662literally every game
>>551651838>max0r, the guy with an annoying tranny fanbase, is playing the annoying tranny character (pocket)poetic.
>>551651838this is extremely hard to watchi was going to watch it all if the editing stopped and it was just for the intro but man that's unbearablet. zoomer that loves duetslop
>>551686708its unwatchable, idk how he thought putting 1 frame unreadable text next to fast gameplay was a good idea
>>551686989it's literally just xd so random but in a modern way i don't like it>gorila>jack in the box >dance dance revolution>TOM AND JERRY AHHH ANVIL
>>551686708>>551686989I propose calling it... editslop
I've never understood why hypercarries are so toxic but goddamn did victor change me man. Seeing your team feed the enemy wraith/haze/infernus while youre desperately trying to powerfarm is so demoralizing. Thank you Sinclair from Tel Aviv your 0/10 performance was stunning, you are truly a asset to the team!
>>551687454You’re not supposed to powerfarm as victor. You’re strong in midgame
How many days left until Christmas challenge closes? I have 4 left
>>551688869whenever "THE PATCH" comes out i guess
>>551689106If it doesn't come out early jan I'm roping myself in game with lash
>>551688869 I'd guess around jan 5 since it's the first monday of the year.
>>551680034I've never seen a show with so much backing behind act like dark age Homestuck. It's baffling how much resource and manpower goes to basically doing Deviantart tier teenage melodramatic fanfiction.
>>551687454I have the opposite reaction. Ever since I picked up Victor I feel in control of my destiny, if my team is feeding I just need to patiently wait for my powerspike to become a menace and start turning the game over.
playing into victor as seven is so funny>teammates are crying about the lategame victor raping>have fleetfoot, enduring speed, spirit resist, and mystic slow>literally walk out of his aura with power surge and ball slow>if you somehow manage to find yourself to be gigaslowed by random actives, you use max ult to float away and heal back everythingThey just need to add back self-stun, and this hero can literally never do anything to seven
>>551690016I will be honest and say I just picked him up, but it feels helpless with the current patch now that feeding gives the enemy tons of souls.
>>551690117>*curses and silences victor*psshh... nothing personnel... kid.
>>551655618Mirage, Gay Talon and Sinclair are all pretty fun.Viscous is currently in "only one build is viable" tier and Shiv requieres a lot of dedication to use effectively, I've been struggling to get their respective wins.
>>551690293oh yea lately I have been buying superior duration and curse, so he has to eat around a 6 second ccI have to get better at using it when he pops infuser
>>551690483>"only one build is viable"Which one is that?
>>551689287gonna be late jan early feb
>>551689106I doubt they'll keep the winter aesthetic until mid february
>>551688869I'm high on copium that it's gonna be until January 7th because Russians love Valve games
>>551690612Viscous one shot build. AKA, express shot + maxed out 1. I used to main Viscous and go full puddle punch but ever since gun got buffed and mobility nerfed, any prolonged fight, passive play or stalling became an immediate death sentence for goo man. I do not like the one shot build, it goes against my playstyle.
>>551690117>>551690293Strength of victor lategame isnt that he kills you its all the space he opens for his teammates by absorbing all enemy abilities and cc. You put a curse on victor and he laughs it off as his teammates kill you
>>551691249What does that mean
Genuinely curious, is it true that everyone that plays this game is unemployed because every source that tries to get people into this game says that
>>551692827I run my own business, so I'm technically "unemployed". Deadlock does requiere a significant time investment but usually the unemployed remarker is the pleb excuse for people who don't want to get good at anything. "Oh, I have a job therefore I am unable to learn new abilities or get a hobby, let me spend 6 hours of my evening playing this comfort food game."
>playing wraith>doorman ults me>tp to exit as he starts his voice line>have time to go back to base and doorman is still going>"I can keep talking"i laughed but also goddamn
>>551692827Not unemployed, we're playtesters.
>>551691190>the space cope
>>551693337I didn't know the long lines made it into the game, I don't think I've ever heard them
>>551691249that just sounds like quicksilver minus the reload for unga gunbrains
>>551693379people who actually kept playing the game and not just for a few months should get something in return
>>551693645me neither, this one went on way longer than the ult even lasts. kind of a shame honestlyhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockDec2025/Audio/doorman_power4_on_wraith.mp3
>>551680634I started kingdom come deliverance but no one mentioned it has awful gameplay so I had to drop it after 3 hours because it was CBT between cutscenes
>>551692827its a closed alpha movement shooter moba with no progression beyond rank, yes
>>551693550Nta but he do be creating space but also curse cucks him because hes all sustain
>>551680634i am away from home for the week so i am left here ph*neposting to pass the time
very balanced game
>>551695678the current matchmaking is entirely decided on which side the hypercarry lands on
i like laning with bebopi like following up on his hooks
>>551680634I think I'm about halfway through with Half-Life 2, then I gotta do the episodes. Gotta finish Boltgun before the sequel drops, too.>>551692827I work 9-5, but my weekends are free (as long as I'm not going to a Melee local). When I was a minimum wagie, I had days off to grind ranks in different MOBAs. I miss it sometimes.Games with much shorter games like fighters, arena fps are my jam now. I wanna get into Starcraft, next.
>>551695826Out of cuirosity I looked at all my altest matches and almost every single one of them had a haze in it and onl match had a haze in the losing team.
>>551696895haze terrorizing lower ranks has been happening for a year now
>>551696672>laning with bebop as abrams>every time he hooks someone he immediately punches them away before I can charge
>this general when Silver releases
>>551693337>>551694021You'd think they'd be wary of how quickly Wraith can get out of Doorman's ult.
>>551697402anon the voice line is a minute long
>>551697402I mean, it's funny because of how long that voice line is, and how most of it wouldn't be heard because the ult will just end anyways.
holy fuck viscous is in such a shit taste right now if you dont want to play gunseems like the only thing viable right now is that stupid express shot rush build i cant play
Geist is just peak dishonest hero design. What a bullshit character, I didn't realize just how much spam she could fart out until I played her, it's just endless damage with no commitment
>>551696895I love it when Haze is in a game. Them being the Katarina/Yi of Deadlock makes the games a little spicy. Im probably on a support characters, so its:>on my team? we win because I make sure she's unimpeded, and never die>on their team? we win because I makse sure they can't play the game with cc and actives looming over her head like Looney Tunes
>>551697775Nta but I never get unique lines when Doorman ults me.
>>551692827I work 12h shifts at a smelter.I alone am the employed one.
>>551698127last one only happens if your teamates are not incompetent.
>>551698120Mystic Expansion + Alchemical Fire + Spirit Tank Bomb-Geist is full cancer, and I don't want a cure. I love this woman.
>>551698629I had an easy lane so I rushed mystic reverb on malice and the near perma slow was so oppressive
Trough a bit of encouragement from few anons I decided to pick up Victor since im a frontline addict and I can say that he feels... miserable? I felt like I did absolutely nothing this game except for walk and did 60k. When I do 60k in yamato Its either becuase I got like 25 kills and I do cool shit Victor feels like im getting tortured and somehow torturing them back. I guess the gameplay mirrors the lore of the character.
replays can be so funny at times>>551699236that si exactly the point of victor.
>>551698629build id?also do you also buy mystic regen on geits: that shit is way too good on her.
Curious how I can link up every Drifter player to a sex offender registryMany such cases!
Should I be following build guides until I can concoct something on my own
>>551700991Many such cases
>>551700341I don't have a custom build, just go between the purple and green pages. But these and their upgraded versions are what I generally end up with. I was going for mystic reverb next after a few upgrades, but I was farming like shit trying to keep lanes pushed, so the game ended after some poke wars (one sided, lol). My older Geist builds have some gun stuff, but I was either trying some new stuff for me, or we needed some gun damage.
>>551702054>>551700341+, I normally plan to replace or add onto the bullet vest/emblem if I'm dying or getting hit too hard. But I fucked my elo down to cum low instead of the regular pisslow grinding this Christmas chal while I was sick, so get games have been one sided.
>>551685450I actually wonder how much of the matchmaking being trash is due to people like you rocketing to a rank you dont belong off a smurf
>>551700991I don't believe there is any need to make your own "original" build, most top builds are the same except for a couple of items and maybe a bit of skill order. The important thing is knowing what each items does and when to get them, this is especially important for counter buys.
>>551703484t. ritualist 2
>>551704810KEK let me ask you my little nigger, if someone who is actually ascendant 1 made a smurf, where do you think theyd end up we both know what the answer is but you can cope and ignore it, maybe you can even pretend Im shitlow like you were before you made your smurf if it makes you feel better, but you stick out like a sore thumb I assure you, and if you ever show up in my eternus lobbys let me know so I can call you a nigger
>>551686708its sseth's editing but for trannies
>>551651838I clicked the link just to downvote it and report the video
>>551706714>you die, i get paid
Is Yamato complete shit right now? I can't do any damage with her, even with a lot of souls
https://steamdb.info/app/3488080/history/WHO IS STILL FUCKING UPDATING THIS GANE HOLY FUCK LMAOGO HOME RETARD
>>551709120why do you niggers always need someone to spoonfeed you or yoshit to shovel his shit balance into your mouthNo she is not shit. She’s a pretty good frontliner and diver, and the changes made crimson slash and tank items more important. NPC ass nigger
>>551709435umad?
>>551709419Yoshit has no life....
>>551709653yes because these are the kind of niggers that cry on the forums to get yoshit to slightly buff them and thwn it’s like>WHAAAAAT HOW IS THIS HERO OP NOW?!?!>left untouched for months thereafterhappened with mina, lash, calico, wraith, warden, etc.
>win lane>doesn't matter because the infernus in the side lane went 0/11 against their haze
>>551709419some people are autistic dudei know a guy who still did work because he had nothing else to do
i want to like mirage but something about his bullet speed keeps throwing me off and i can barely stack marks. i just become an ult bot for the actual carry
I love this game but my last 4 matches has had a leaver, is low prio that good? is that where all the good matches are? obviously these kids are alt-f4ing and uninstalling
>paradox with echo shard alc fire vortex web this is the most braindead extra chromosone bullshit i have ever seen. why is this allowed? and why does vortex web pull you when you're 20m in the air?
>>551710096what do you mean? he has some of the best bullet velocity in the game
>>551709419First or second week better be the fucking release date.
>>551710096what is a mirage ultbot kek
what items counters a fed ass billy
>>551710780something about it just doesn't land with me, laning is fucking ass>>551711026my only contribution is giving the traveller buff to my haze or something lamo
>>551711026Its called buying utility items, putting cd reduction on ult, and just saving peoples asses
>>551711203like almost any fed character, curse
>>551711203warp stonejuggernaut
>>551711203your f key
>>551709419why crunch so hard when you could have chopped up the update and everyone would ahve been happy desu
>>551711203Return Fire also very good as Billy and Curse
>>551709419Icefraud has no family
>>551711473ah yeah just grab a simple lil 6k item yep ok
>>551640336>picI fixed it. Thank me later.
>>551712397yes you moron, do you want to win or not?
>>551712432that pepper sneak peek is so fucking stupid lol
>farming ornaments>get vyper by random>enemy laner is haze>throw a bola on her every time she tries to ultholy fuck that's fun
>>551709435nah, she's shit right now. even a support character with a meme build can easily outdamage her
>>551711349literally just buy high velocity rounds it's only 800
>average billy on my team>average billy on the enemy team
>>551713216>the downplayer has arrived>a support hero with a meme build he saysnot fooling anyone
>lash and dynamo on team>they take turns ulting each fight, never bother to use both so we lose most fights>last three fights lash doesn't ult>last two fights dynamo didn't ult>dynamo even bought refresher and unstoppable but got 0 mobility so he tried to slowly waddle at them the whole gameCmon man I just want my last few ornaments, you guys aren't even playing difficult heroes.
nothing better than getting a boosted paigetranny in your lane that thinks as long as they throw shield on cd theyve done their well
The worst part about this game is that even when the games are absolute stomps you're still forced to wait 30 minutes for it to end
I like to imagine people who die to the baroness and are a bit angry already completely lose their shit when Doorman goes on one of his monologues about how bad they are
WHY DOES THE COMMNUNITY SDK HAVE TO BE SUCH AN IQ TESTI JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME GOSH DARN DIDDLY MAPS
>>551712858Ikr you can see like 2 pixels of the tip of her horn
>>551697327And that's a good thing?
>>551670315The few times I try Vindicta I'm doing no damage and my opponents hurt me more than I them while floating
>>551673473I unironically have had dreams where the dream version of the game was infinitely better than the real versions. This includes Overwatch and Deadlock.
>>551702054>geist without radiant regenerationHoly hell
>win 5 games in a row>rank only goes up by 13 of those games my teammates were trying their hardest to lose too, why is this shit so hard and slow...
>32/32>start at oracle 2 and finish at oracle 2that's a fuckin' double win in my bookstime to dodge the rest of this update so I don't have to play with other people like metime for puzzle games until mid-Jan or whenever
>>551720796It's not that hard desu, the hardest part is how vague it is about how you need to extract and copy over all of the game's files to the SDK
>>551722818>>551720796Just wait for the official valve one two years from now lmao
>>551673473i had a dream once where they added a giant clown named lorenzo who was like 3x the height of all the other charactersthey also reworked blue lane to go through a tunnel instead of a bridge and lorenzo couldn't fit inside
Development of this game would go much more smoothly if Valve just decided to embrace generative AI.
Napalm is Infernus' ejaculate
>>551729525Mad milk is back baby
>>551729508niggas are using ai for the art, probably for the programming too.
>>551731356sourceand no, cryptic symbolism in your dreams doesn't count. it only counts if it's in my dreams
>>551732432sorry i should have clarified that it was for the concept art.
>>551732604source on that one too then
>>551733490go look at it and use your own brain french dog
Does Pocket have the 10 plagues inside the suitcase?
>>551733878bloc country ass insult
holiday has a hole in her pants from all that brapping into the air.....
>>551734792>why do people complain about pocket's ult killing every firstborn? just counterpurchase with lambsblood
I didn't realize just how stacked pockets gun amps are. I know he had that amp on his 1 but I had totally forgot about the bonus weapon damage upgrade on cloak. And I know his gun scaling is pretty high, it's weird you don't see too many gun pockets.
>>551735206because everyone is a spirit junkie and will SHOUT at you how gun is "cancer" when its the only thing that scales throughout the game
>>551735206it's too easy to just catch him and kill him before he kills you.you also have to float somewhere and shoot volleys for 5 seconds (and actually hit them) before you're allowed to go in.
>phantom 1 due to loss streak>play billy with an 80% winrate>green chevron >get 3 massive feeding retards on a team>ritualist 4 lobby?????????????I am struggling to find a reason to keep playing this awful game
>>551735206Ill give you a few reasons>getting amp stacks is an awkward trade off for shooting your gun, barrage is already an interesting dynamic for spirit because you are giving your opponent time to hit you/react to any of your burst for more damage when you do it, this effect is worse for gun builds because you arent designed around burst but consistent damage>pockets gun is a shotgun and pocket is squishy, standing close to people for too long is a good way to die>cloak weapon bonus falls off, its a strong spike when you get it but the further the game goes the less it meansthe thing about glocket is that it trades his insane spirit midgame for an awkward playstyle that has less impact and scales just as poorly, because late game pocket is probably dipping into his gun when he went spirit anyway but youve lose the utility spirit pocket would have brought during that transition
>>551737378>transition
>>551737956nigga we gonna boil you
>bebop lowest winratehnnng buffs soon
>>551579230This game is dead till hero update
>>551737078The later it gets the worse and worse shit gets. I'm arcanist and regularly get into fucking low Initiate games at this time. Semirelated but I still think this game needs some type of casual unranked gamemode with like a 25-30 minute time cap. Sometimes I just want to dick around on Mo and Krill without committing to a 40+ minute game
>>551640605Ah yes let's take League's old approach where Champions get released weekly and the pool get's oversaturated with generic slop that plays the same rolls where a majority of the roster never get's picked.
>>551740241Let. Them. Cook.
I sure can't wait for those 5 heroes we're getting in February
>>551678878does the New York Oracle not count?
Can we add the line:"Grapple recast refreshes gun buff duration."To Lash's grapple? It would let you stack up damage/fire rate on your gun while the fight kept going. Would be a very unique gun style hero.
for those who have played other ASSFAGGOTS before, what are some heroes from other mobas whose kits you'd like to see come to deadlock?
>>551743421Isn't the problem that fire rate doesn't help burst fire guns?
>>551743951No fire rate barely affects burst fire guns and lash's grapple t3 might be the worst t3 in the game.
>>551743671>HOTSCho'Gall and it's not even close, we only have duo lanes anyway but sadly his gimmick doesn't work outside of hots>LeagueWe already our Mundus / Singed through Victor so I guess something like teemo ot techies. I just want landmines.>dotaJuggernaut
>>551743951>>551744406Even so, +6 base gun damage goes crazy. and it stacks!
>>551745003Yeah but you're sacrificing 2ap to delay some actual serious damage spikes or what could be a teamwide stun.You need to hit 20 shots with it to outdo the bonus damage for flog.
>>551743671I like their methodology of grabbing fun abilities and not full kits, one I want in is Time Lapse but it would probably clash with Paradox's whole thing. Dazzle would be a cool support tho, same with Witch Doctor. Chen grabbing jungle camps to fight for him would be cool.
Sinclair is not the most difficult character, it's Bebop. After 50 games as both it's no contest. You need perfect positioning and 100% hook accuracy as Bebop. He's made of glass, has no mobility, no damage, his ult is a joke nearly all of the time, and for God's sake why did they give him 2 stam? Really. Was 3 stam Bebop ruining the competitive balance of this magical game? What the fuck is their goal with this character?
>>551745589paradox ult on 1/4th cool down is going to take a lot of power budget
>>551745451It would do more damage in the short-term, but would be out-scaled in longer teamfighs. Your gun does 9 damage per bullet, so plus 6 damage is a 66% increase. And thats base damage so its scales with % Gun Damage items. If you buy rapid recharge, 30 seconds into a fight each bullet is doing 27 damage Base. That's highest gun dps in the game. refresher could give you ludicrous damage.It also encourages you to use grapples to reposition aggressively instead of just slamming in off cooldown. It would change up your playstyle in a unique way.
>>551746249The numbers are there but I've seen players better than you try to make gun lash work.And no I'm not tslking about streamers.
>>551747313The problem imo is each stack has its own separate duration, so you have to use all your charges at once for ~7 seconds 27 bullet damage.Add (pic related) to grapple and it's possible to stagger your grapples while still getting the 10 seconds of crazy gun gamage.
How do you play Holliday?
>>551748849midair light melees
>be me>be >>551743671>see >>551748912>see AOE you detonate by shooting into itcould this cowgirl be the solution to my probius-relared deadlock wishes
>>551747902Rapid recharge kind of feels like a waste on an ability that doesnt scale off spirit. You have inspired me tho, gonna try to make a build with extra charge and duration to stack it twice
I hate this hero so much. Every piece of her kit feels awful to use.
>>551749906There's a reason why she was only popular when a: her kit was broken or b: her gun was broken
>>551743671I'd love another moba to give a character like Abathur from HOTS a shot. He was super unique.also cho'gall but that'd never happen
I'm 5 hero's away and on a 5 game losing streak, and the worst part is the better I do the more I lose, the game is giving me shitty'er and shitty'er team mates each and every game and I cant fucking take it anymore, There's a reason this game will never hit its all time peak again I guess
>here's your team bro>happy holidaysfuck you yoshifag
>>551752001I'm sure a game losing 90% of it's playerbase twice is a great sign for the future
>>551752137Mohammed dealing almost as much damage as a Mina is criminal
>>551749906It's part of a bigger problem. Her kit makes you think you should build into turning her gun into a CS deagle but in the end the only thing that's viable is stacking fire rate and playing like it's a machine gun.
>>551697327beans
