Battle On Tarsh Edition>Previous>>551435972>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSDec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHgDec 18 Killzone 2 Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80GoDec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M>LATEST PATCHESDec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
BuffGOD:>handsome>blonde hair and blue eyes>aryan phenotype>self-made millionaire>love to see people having fun with the game>lead architect of the 60 days buff patch that literally brought the game back from the deadNerf Tranny:>ugly>receding hairline and shit colored eyes>slavic vodkanigger subhuman phenotype>living pay checks to pay checks>hate to see people having fun with the game>literally the main culprit of the downfall of the game
I dont care what that retarded swede says. The Dickle is actually the most balanced weapon in the game.
Why do so few pubbies collect samples, even if they're right in front? I know these guys don't have maxed out ships their level is too low.Where do I find a subby femboy squadmate to bully into collecting samples for me? Jokes aside, it seems like farming level 3-4 for greens, just naturally getting oranges, and then trying to find the cock rock on the minimap in higher level missions is the way to go. I don't need to get every upgrade but I would like to at least have some of the basics.
>>551595216I have only one upgrade left; mortar target acquisition. I just don't care if I ever get it. It's going to happen eventually, but I'll still collect samples if I see the rest of the team is at least trying to grab a few.
Actually the autocannon is objectively the best balanced weapon in the game
>>551595216Sometimes those teammates are just so stupid that they don't even know about samples and ship upgrades. The good news is, missions are never so difficult that you need to ignore samples in order to complete all the objectives in time. So even if you're the only one doing it, you can usually collect probably half the samples on the map on your own if you put the time and effort into it.
>>551595010It's really not honestly. It's dependent on an armor to be good, and can shit out damage.It's probably one of the least balanced weapons due to the varying potential, excluding explosive meme shit. I don't get why they say deadeye is so balanced, be interesting to see their meaning because it's not like an output thing. There's gotta be more to it than that.
>>551595565>Is the baseline for everything >Gets like 3 buffs while nothing else changesWhat did AH mean by this.(This is a really bad sign)
>>551595690>Balance means it should be able to do everythingThank you for telling everyone you dont know what "balance" means and presenting an argument that explosive is overpowered
>>551596105I didn't even say that? Im saying based on situation it can go from insane to mediocre. It is the least balanced due to how much it varies. It could go from like headpopping 4 hulks in a row to struggling to kill shield devs or getting raped by gunships.
>>551596379>Im saying based on situation it can go from insane to mediocre.So you mean its not a "Do everything gun" like explosives? Wow, sounds like explosives are broken.
>>551596521Do you need your meds?
>>551596795Do you need your crutch?
>>551595216With how fucking stupid the average player is I wouldn't be surprised if they never upgraded their shit. I can see the adhd zoomers now. Mashing past any instructions about samples in their rush to throw orbitals on top of teammates. Which reminds me of a tale from...why TODA GEE WILLIKERS DING DONG FCUK!>Calling down hellbomb on jammer.>As I'm typing in the promt see a red pillar appear 2 feet away.>Hoping it's orbital rail I focus on it...120 barrage.>At the same time I see what it is this apears in chat "B2 barrage. Uh duuuuur! ". Second part added for effect.Oh thank you stupid asshole that is so helpful! I had started booking it the moment I identified the strat and somehow made it out alive. Ran straight to the Neanderthal and gave him a lead bath with my PREMIUM knight smg.
Anyone want a hiveworld lobby? I'm having bot fatigue atm, been playing nothing but bot for the past 2 weeks
>>551597018>Steps away from terminal>Look at pillar instead of making an assumption>"Oh, I should leave">You escape and mission goes on as usualThere, some life advice for you.
>Throw railcannon>Pubbie lights it up with his RR and wastes itY do dey do dis
>the GM is going to get more power soon, watch out helldivers!You mean the guy who controls the entire galactic diarrhea war and railroads every single MO and gives us the nailbiting week long slop MO, is somehow going to have even more power? Well yabba dabba doo I can't wait!!
Does it counter rupture strain?
>>551598152it counters fun and a good gameplay loop
>>551598152>single-target stun grenade that only activates after a delay>does it counter the strain that tries to overwhelm you with numbers and fast-moving Stalkers and Hunters???
>>551598152I still cant believe they made a single target grenade and all it does is staggerFucking Swedes, man...
>>551597160https://files.catbox.moe/f4zcfr.mp3Ah shit...
>>551597281You're a worthless fag. Some advice for you. Retards need to be corrected to their behavior never stops. Stop coddling stupid shitters you fag enabler. Online gaming was so much better before the pussy generations and their hugbox ruined it.
>>551597319Is railcannon bugged to always target scouts of never target warstriders? I tried it multiple times and it always chooses the scout.
>>551599000Rocket Chickens and War Striders are in the same enemy category (heavy) so there's no bias for the targeting. Nice trips
>>551597319Same reason people shoot at beheaded bugs or chargers with their butts blown offThey're retarded
It's still alive bro *shoots it to death* don't be so lazy
>>551599214Seriously? Sweden is amazing.
>>551595690Yes, if I need to invest an armor passive + booster slot to make a weapon good instead of middling, that called a tradeoffIf anything you should make the argument that most boosters are useless so it's not exactly a sacrifice to choose this booster in particular
>You're a worthless fag. Some advice for you. Retards need to be corrected to their behavior never stops. Stop coddling stupid shitters you fag enabler. Online gaming was so much better before the pussy generations and their hugbox ruined it.
>>551597018P90 GOD. May all pubshitters suffer your wrath.
>>551599251>dif9 pubs still shoot at heavies from the front with their AP2 rifles while entire rape stacks close in on them from literally inside their FoV
>>551598852Im not the one malding out because I couldnt turn my head.
By golly, I do not think Arrowhead has the best intentions for the game going forward!
>>551603952Feels like they want to scuttle the game
>4 hours since last lobbydead game
>>551597319>>551599251+1 for me-1 for youIt's simple math.
Less automatons, more cyborgs, I want to see flesh merged with steel, I want to see hulking massive cyborg chicks with star pasties, I want hulking muscular cyborg chicks that can just grab me and lift me up with ease
I want to see Justice. Shoot gun. Kill enemies.
would the scythe be a good pairing with the maxigun?
>>551600852To be fair, they do this in the trailers too.
>>551605536Finally, an enemy that can definitely feel pain AND get pregnant.
>>551599738It's not even that it's just how the power level of the thing scales so much based on scenario making it imbalanced. Like it's not OP or UP it's just really inconsistent
>>551606034God no, you want something like slugger to help you move and keep shit away from you.
The minigun exists, rightShould have been expendable. Another dogshit stratagem ruined by plebbit
De-escalator is surprisingly pretty fun on bots with like guard dog and thermite. Nothing can really touch me when I stun lock big shit, and the guard dog just mops up chaff.Might go back to minigun gaming tomorrow tho. Been a lot of fun being the WALL of bullets
>>551607004Whats wrong with it? I mean I wouldn't take it against bots or the rupture strain, but it does fine against everything else.
>take any dog besides gas dog or bullet dog>All of the other dogs just clip the shit out of your team and or kill them>Need to be constantly spamming 5 to call them back, better off just running solo>AH keeps releasing dogs like this
>>551607405It was going to be expendable. Imagine what we have right now but you just call it every 90 seconds then discard it. No need for it to be good when it was just supposed to do its job for 30 or so seconds until you empty it and go back to your support weapon, same as the EATs. Now it needs to do a perfect job for the entirety of the mission and it fails at that
>>551607473Didn't you get the memo chud? TEAMKILLS ARE LE FUNNI
>>551607473>be swigger>constantly bringing your dachshund and chihuahua to work>one day they brutally kill one of your employees>laught it off>everyone assisting the scene thinks it's hilarious>think about how much fun everyone had>want to share that experience with the rest of the world>need to find a way>
>>551607473You need more?
>>551607473>All of the other dogs just clip the shit out of your team and or kill themBased, that'll teach them for being out of position
Can someone draw SEAF-chan or Eagle-1 with canon compliant buzzcuts?
>>551607945>>551607965>>551608567>>551608657I just wanna play with my team with the other dogs :(
>See flame dog get close to me>Pre-stim>Bug tongues my ass and dog burns it to a crisp>Carry on as usualPeople get mad at this?
have the halo guns been buffed since they dropped, everything but the assault rifle felt super weak last i played
>>551609017Changing damage values for crossover weapons is super illegal in Swiggerstan according to the devs
>>551609017The reload speed on the ma5c feels way worse than I remember.
>This implies not everyone is bald and Arrowhead purely did it because theyre lazy but realize how ugly it is.Classic Sweden
>>551607473Funny enough that time with the free K-9 had zero teamkills on my part, I'm starting to think the people teamkilling with arc are just retarded.
>>551609449Im sure AH was just lazy and thought it was a funny solution
>>551609017M90 is the only good thing that came out from the warbond tho?
>>551609017Yes, got a bunch of damage buffs.
Are Swedes malicious or just incompetent? It's hjard to say
>lib concussive not only has worst RoF and DpS of all rifles, but the stagger causes bugs to leap an entire bodylength to either side like neo dodging bulletsI expected bad, but this is next level terrible.
>>551609017oh did you mean to say the worst war bond in the game should get a .0001% damage buff? yeah, time to go into the hellmire mines
>super earth president gets killed>theres not even an event where we vote for person A or person B with the only difference being their name >could even be a meme in the community since the only name we do know is 'General Brasch' >just randomly have some no named placed there with no lore significance or consequences from the previous guy getting killed
Day 688Still no SEAF stratagem. Another campaign concluded, another list of promises filed somewhere above our heads. We’ve learned not to look up anymore. Nothing ever comes down that isn’t already on fire.If SEAF support exists, it clearly isn’t meant for the frontlines. Until then, we fight with what we have and call it enough.For Democracy,A Very Tired Helldiver
>>551610569>theres not even an event where we voteAnon I feel like you don't understand how managed democracy works.
>>551610289>hjard to sayOh you
>>551610290DESTROY THE DAMAGE AND ITS PERFECT, said the nerftroonie
>>551610569>t. more invested in the MO LARP than the swigger devsYou poor bastard.
>>551610651>lean in with that joke>only made people who are level 150 do a 12 hour vote anything to add lore>>551610714im too autistic
In what ways does the liberator need to be buffed in order for it to be able to compete with the eruptor, exploding crossbow, and purifier?
>>551610650https://files.catbox.moe/fty4nr.mp3svol
>>551610783More autistic than a Swedish 'person' ?Not likely.
>>551610991>>551611085>>551611157samefag
>>551610981full durable damage
>>551610991>>551611085>>551611157holy
>throw thermite at enemy>it bounces off
>>551611775I would not put it passed them to put in the possibility to hit the enemy with the stick end and have it bounce, I'm pretty sure they did that with throwing knives.
>>551611952Speaking of, how do we fix it?
>>551612180more damage, more punch through
>>551611775>shoot RR at enemy>it deflects off
>kill large enemy>its corpse suddenly gains a shitload of momentum, loses all susceptibility to gravity, and launches itself directly at me like a semi truck >dodge it with warp pack>it teleports back to its starting location like nothing happenedThey're fucking with me, they're fucking with me. Im not insane. I'm not.
>>551612180Give it unlimited ammo, there's no scenario where you'd choose to utilize them over your primary or support weapon. You basically have 20 super short ranged Slugger shells with a much lower firerate and projectile velocity. There's no scenario where you'd pick them over any other offensive grenade, so give them unlimited ammo to give them a clear use scenario where you're packing Light AP and anti-tank support weapons where the throwing knives consistently bridge that medium armor gap
>>551612909This is what happens with prolonged ibuprofen usage
>>551612180You can pick them back up and they have a little bit of tracking to an enemy's head.
>>551613175You be profen?
>>551613307
>>551598152>take away the ability to stun large enemies from the ems grenade>bring it back in a considerably gayer and more niche usecaseThe Urchin only exists so Youtubers can make TTK videos on bile titans, chargers and hulks.
>>551612180I think the only way is to make them reusable or massive increase to number you can carryIf you're lazy I guess you could make em explosive for medium enemy dispatching but feels gay
>>551613448The stun pulses do force rupture bugs to unburrow, so it does have some potential.Double the radius of the stun pulse so it can lock down an area along with being able so stagger-lock heavy units. Make it a -1 capacity grenade and increase the fuse timer if you must, but it needs to do something the stun grenade can't do. As for the stun grenade, just make it an impact fuse for instant effect so it stands apart from the urchin's slower but longer lasting effect.
Just got back into this game, wanted to ask what the consensus on the War Strider is.I think they're way too tanky and absolute ass to deal with.
>>551614705They're annoying, but can be easily dealt with. Especially now that they're nerfed. The only time they ever cause me an issue is when there's a War Strider sitting atop a Jammer fortification and it spams it's grenades at me when I'm unable to get out of the way in time. Other than that, it's just a big lumbering retard.
>>551612180change it from impact damage to melee damage so it can benefit from the PP/RS/RE melee damage bonusgive it 4 penetrationkeep their arc and velocity the same as it is nowyou've got a strong skill based weapon that can be leaned even more heavily into with a build that supports it. naturally this will make shitters seethe but what can you do?
Fighting bugs makes me wish mexicans stole me from the crib and raised me as their own so I would live a life where I didnt have to experience such an obnoxious faction.
>check out HD strims for relaxan >nothing but furries and vtroons
>>551614705They don't have anything that can realistically kill you and they're easily destroyed by EATs/Commando
>>551614705Try out these babies and you'll realize they ain't shit.
>>551614513It should do something funky like drop the armor value of whatever it sticks to or give a damage bonus or something, there's no reason to pick these over thermites
>>551615746look up Stickhead31 on Youtube.
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775242906372338/76561199108851031hd1, d10-15 whatevs
when are we getting a warrant style lock on gun in the primary slot?when are we getting a smartgun MG support weapon?
>>551616826You can already bring 4 turrets
>>551617851I want to bring 7 turrets
Predict how mindbroken the nerf indians will be once this thing is out
>>551618420considering back in HD1, the trident is the absolute must pick for high diffs, my guess is we will see the level of chimp out we've never seen before, even worse than the Coyote
>>551618684>the trident is the absolute must pick for high diffs,because of a bug that made laser damage essentially ignore armour
>>551618420>a 250RPM 60x3 light pen shotgun (750 total combined DPS)the only mindbroken faggot here is you if you think anyone is going to be crying for nerfs for this thing
>>551619013It's probably going to be more like the sickle and be a laser-breaker than anything
>>551619013It will be medium pen with low durable damage
>>551614705Recoilless one tap them.
>>551620426You wouldn't bring the RR to every single mission though
>Calls others indians>Posting spoilers
>>551618684>must pickmore like crutch, just like RR is in hd2.if you think it's a must pick that just means that you're too dogshit to clear high diff and need the trident to be able to kill even 1 enemy
>>551620551I shouldn't? against bot i feel like it's one the best back weapon.
>>551620634Crutch is just a word retards like you like to use when someones loadout personally offends you and makes you gnash your teeth in silence.
>SAAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE LEAKS ARROWHEAD PAID ME TO STOP CHUDS LIKE YOU FROM DOING THAT, YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME SAAAR
>>551620634So it's super good then, is that what you're saying?
>>551620706It's a crutch as the other anon said. You'll realize soon enough
>>551620365>It will be medium pen
>>551620365>It will be medium penThat would be too based for swedes
>>551620909Trident in HD1 can pen medium armor
>>551618684>must pick for high diffsNot true, Railgun, Justice and Paragon are often preferred for raw killing potential and utility depending on the front. It is however incredibly strong and easy to use.>>551618742>ignore armorNo, it's because it's a laser pulse shotgun. It has essentially infinite ammo and both high damage both at range and up close and high spread. The HD1 Breaker is comparable to it in damage and often performs a lot better than it when it comes to raw DPS against clumped groups due to unstoppable flechettes, but the massive sustainability of Trident comes with just how easy it is to do heat management in HD1 compared to HD2.It's also a huge fucking teamkill magnet because its users can't stop shooting teammates at point blank.HD2 heat mechanics will actually severely nerf the trident's advantages even if its ported with the same destructive profile as HD1's but it won't matter and people will still cry it's too powerful for its own good.
>>551620994and the scythe could pen the HD1 equivalent of heavy armour
>>551621108HD2 Scythe can pen up to AV4. You can kill a hulk frontally to the eye with it.
>>551621189Wrong, retard. Do you even play the game?
>>551621189anon.....
>>551621189blud's tweaking
551620751I hit a nerve it seems
I wonder if theres an overlap in men that post spoilers on purpose and men that send unsolicited dick pics.
>>551610290pair with your favorite flavor of dog and watch as you simultaneously CC every enemy smaller than a charger and get the highest kill count without breaking a sweat
>>551622372>pair with your favorite flavor of dog andLiterally a crutch
get a discord and ERP already you fags
>>551622426nobody gives a fuck about crutches in a PVE game
>>551623447And the Libcon isn't suddenly decent just because you can pair it with a dog just like you can with every other weapon. If you're relying on something else to make it good then it's a crutch
>>551623760lib conc and pummeler are fantastic picks on predator strain because typically you'd get swarmed faster than you can kill, but if you tap fire you can stun bugs while a dog or sentry or teammate gets the kill. stagger is extremely good in specific scenarios but they're few and far between.
>>551621189Oh look the HD1 secondary doesn't even play the game, why am I not surprised
>>551614705Don't worry, its gonna keep getting nerfed until it literally cannot hurt or threaten the players ever again. It will just serve as a destructive set piece so that redditors and /hdg/ can live out their heckin' power fantasy.
>>551623887Punisher/Cookout/Slugger/Dominator/Deadeye/Halt/M90A/Plaspun/Scorcher do the same AND can actually just kill them. Libcon and Pummeler are meme weapons that are far inferior to literally everything else and no amount of cope will ever change that
>>551623665On one hand more options is never bad, but on the other there is a legion of reddit babies that will cry endlessly if the "max difficulty" is too hard for them. You just know even the devs want to shout "lower the difficulty" at these man-children, but some non-swede has successfully tard wrangled them into gagging 99% of the dev team.
>>551623760wow I guess the dickle is a trash tier weapon because it relies on something else to be good
>>551624230Fire armor isn't necessary at all to make the Dickle good
>nerf poojeet is awake
>>551623760>If you're relying on something else to make it good then it's a crutchHave you heard the good word from our lord and savior Eagle Rocket Pods?
>Free shield relayI miss the bombardment so much brehs
>>551624416I took those into a game by mistake on Christmas day. Talk about egg on my face.
>>551624114Imagine being this retarded unironically
>>551623887>if you tap fire you can stun bugs while a dog or sentry or teammate gets the killcuck mentality
>>551624432It was kino while it lasted
>>551624028>increased pistol armor pen from 20 to 100this literally happened over a year ago and nerfbabbies haven't stopped seething about it ever since
>>551624868Did you know? You can kill entire waves of enemies with Peacemaker, you just need to bring the 380mm Barrage
The Stalwart is AT if you also pick EATs, who would have thought
The galactic war is the worst thing about this game
The seething that the galactic war causes is the best thing about this game
>>551625349The balancing in this game solely caters to bufftrannies. But bufftroons are still crying. Why?
>mfw warstriders don't die to one hit from the eruptor.(Way too tanky)
he's still seething
why cant the nerftranny go back to his slophammer
I just can't take his toxicity anymore, can somebody please report him?! I was having a good day until now...
>>551627310Do you think he even plays that game? Or HD2 for that matter? He's just a deranged shitposter that can't live without a shot of (You)s anymore.
>>551626782Rocket chicken needs to be nerfedWar strider needs to be nerfedFactory strider chin guns need to be nerfedFly devastators shoot too fast
>>551627632This... Taking agency away from the player is just bad game design, they should remove death from the game it's just frustrating... We're elite super soldiers after all but they only care about realism when it's against us...
>>551627604He did until the game became fully pussified would be my guess.
>Join jet bricks>ABRL>Start shooting Dropships>Folds them in half for some reason>Mission ends>Look up thruster values, ABRL projectiles, jet death explosions, etc>Should have been impossible>Try to do the same>Doesn't work
>>551627891I agree completely. I especially hate when the fem divers die, that kind of misogyny takes me right out of my hormone replacement haze.
>constant nerfnigger samefagging when nobody takes his baitwe're reaching levels of pathetic previously thought impossible to achieve
>finally unlock AT emplacement>want to try it out on bricks>every retard under the sun is throwing the free shield emplacement on the battlements as their personal bubble safe space while obscuring line of fire for literally everyone elseI know the regen nerf literally killed this stratagem and no one has used it since but how are max level players so unaware? At least you can destroy it before it deploys.
>>551629612Just report the fuck nugget already. Not putting up with his bullshit anymore.
>>551629695Brought the One-Two specifically to blow up relays lol, tbf the stratagem just bounces everywhere too
>>551629695Just break off from your team and then use the ATE on some other base. Teamplay is unnecessary in this game anyways.
>>551629836You should learn to read sometime
>>551629983Oh the defense mission...why even play those? For medals? Those missions are even more boring than the standard ones. Just sitting around and shooting fish in a barrel. Very boring.
>>551630117The entire game is like that
game 2ezd11 has to happen
>>551630302This is impossible. This would mean the developers would have to return before the 3rd week of January.
>>551629612bufftoddlers are the vocal minority ITT thougheverthey're Nirah-tier, louder the more they're proven wrong
>>551630302>>551630491Its not possible because redditors and /hdg/ would erupt into an earth shattering tantrum followed by a mass suicide.
>>551630302No the game is still to hard and that's why it's dying
>>551630560literally who
Collab when?
>>551630560Cope.
what did they do?>dont play for two months>start game>crash everytime when trying to join game
I take it the minigun is some meme shit that isn't useful over D3.
>>551632331The type of player to main the maxxigun is the one who has the least kills and most deaths.
post-christmas bot killingsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242928695599/76561198141964882
>551632523Yiff in Helldivers, furfag.
>>551632331it's a fine sidegrade to the MMG; biggest issue by a long shot is being forced stationary while shooting, since running & diving is 50% of how you stay alive in the game, with the other half being about killing the enemy fast enough, which the maxigun does very well.
>>551631414Works on my machine.>>551632331It's a fun weapon and very good at killing anything that isn't a heavy. The problem is just that it takes up the support and backpack slots and still has some drawbacks to its effectiveness. You need teammates to cover its drawbacks so that it can do its work.
>>5516325233/4>>551632631dat's da plan
>>551632523FVLL!
>>551632523failed
>Nerfnow schizo making shit up about things people don't complain aboutkek that's sad
>>551632854I'm sorry anon...
When level cap increase?
Constitution mods when?
>>551632331It's a meme even when someone's constantly giving you supplies. It being an actual support weapon instead of an expendable you just call in to use for 5 seconds was the stinkiest can of surstromming Alexus managed to cook since the Sterilizer
>>551614705Easy to kill once you engage. Annoying as fuck because if one aggros from far away/behind something your first indication of this is a grenade shower into rag doll 2+ of them grenade spamming at once is the .its annoying thing in the game.
>>551594698The best designed weapon in the game. The new golden standard.
>>551633685>because if one aggros from far away/behind something your first indication of this is a grenade showerThey scream every ten seconds and you can hear them 70m away and the sound they make when aggroed is even louder
>>551615794their railgun can close to oneshot you in heavy armor if it hits the chest and has a very high hemorrhage chance
>>551633851TrvthnukeThe M90A and the Slugger should deal just as much damage as the Double Freedom
>>551634052The M90A's issue isn't damage, its damage is actually so overkill that it doesn't have any significant breakpoints over the Punisher and yet contains downsides in comparison.
>>551633851I want to fuck it
>>551633952If, IF, it ever manages to land a hit on you (0.01% chance). The thing is actively trying to not hit you, even worse than Gunships
i really hoped that we get the tier 6 to christmas this year... what a fool i am
>>551634547>he thoughtlol
Heavy flamie next bond?
>>551634547At least you aren't as retarded as some of (You) ITT that thought the rest of the Illuminate roster was coming soon and that AH couldn't possibly just release a WIP faction
>>551634869The world war warbond seems a lot cooler than that gay stealth shit but the latter seems a lot more complete from what I've seen of recent leaks
>>551632523Finished a mission, one guy left, 1 slot open>>551632854NOW'S YOUR CHANCEALL PATRIOTS GONOWNOW!!!
lobby doko
NERF EVERYTHING NOW SAAAAAAR
>>5516325233/4
>>5516325235 minutes and we drop(you)r chance is now!still 3/4
>>551635196+10 izzat
>>551632523FULL AGAIN
>>551633851>551633851lobbuy doko124r
>>551636207what
is there point leveling other weapons?
I don't know, why don't you tell me ESL-kun.
>>551631042fleshmob is already in the game
Which Illuminate unit do you think gives the best head?
>>551632523GGs, good fun was hadHaving a bunch of EATs on erad is actually very fun.Also, only the finest shadows render in this here videogame.
>>551632523
>>551634958>world war warbondWhat will it have besides the heavy flamer? a combat shovel maybe? trenchgun? super BAR?
>>551641617>trenchgunyes, i remember this showing up in the leaks.
>>551641617Gentlemen, BEHOLD!!
>>551643572calling it>it's just the flamethrower but you don't have to reload it + unusable ergonomics>it's just another AP2 peacemaker reskin>it's another punisher sidegrade that does literally nothing new>armor is 50% gas resistance + something else new
>>551643572>lugerguaranteed to be light pen and absolute dogshitwill be carried by chuds>trench shotgununless it's competing with the double freedom, who cares>heavy flamerhaving a chem dog or mobility tool is pretty critical to flamethrower functioning, this would need to kill targets pretty fast, heavies too, maybe even apply a slow or stagger things in the direct streamit's going to have a hard time competing with hot dog if it doesn't have any of that>armor that is guaranteed to have a gas resistance passive of some kinddon't care, let me know once they add the armor with the aimpunch resistance and ragdoll resistance, or un-nerf the shield backpack
>>551643572>"uhh... what is it?">"I'VE FILLED THESE TANKS WITH MY LIQUID SHIT!"*record scratch* MY NAME IS...
>>551609558situational awareness is not a trait common to people in either this game or my local supermarket
>>551643572>no smg>no shotgun bayonetwasted opportunity
>>551643572Who is dumb enough to buy fire weapons at a premium price after what happened with fire weapons the last 3 times?
I'm about to queue quickplay. Surely there will be no lobby while I'm not looking *wink wink*
>>551643572>another AP2 shotgunThrow it in the pile. >another AP2 pistolThrow it in the pile.>a fucking flamethrowerInto the trash it goes!
>>551645114retards will praise it because they're all le epic heckin meme weapons, just like the maxigun. doesn't matter if its bad, it will be popular.
>>551623665>>551624143on the gripping hand, people will whine about fucking everything in this game regardless.but I realise it's a marketability factor they have to consider, so the solution is modifiers that are de facto difficulty levels but provide plausible deniability for babies (subfaction variants are a good example of that, where players can just say "oh i don't like fighting x strain" instead of "it's too hard for me).so he's right, but that's a very specific and limited solution compared to universal ones that could combine with anything (max difficulty + oh no it's bot mating season and they're horny + oh no now they have a space station here too + hooray it's triple deluxe freedom day so we attached the legs backwards on all the exosuits in celebration)or something
>>551643572>trench shotgun>no bayonetONE. FUCKING. JOB.I don't even care if it's gonna be a light or med pen, slug or magnum round, a trench shottie without the literal sword-sized bayonet is BLASPHEMY!>le flamer but... le heavyDefinitely gonna be same range and damage as other flamers. Still can't light a scavenger. Only difference with the flamer is you don't need to reload... but you pay with the backpack slot.>pistolgenuinely don't know what do think of it. If I think it'll be med pen, it'll be high damage light pen, if I think it'll be light pen, it'll be "small" damage med pen>armorwe already have the trench drip with ground breaker body and chemist head? And no I don't care about the effect, they're gonna create a problem and sell us the armor as the "cure" (won't fucking work).>no MP18 smg expybaka
>>551643572>Said helmet would be a doughboy hat stupidly stuck on helmet.Oh come on that's a troll picture right? It isn't actually that?
>>551646028>no bayonetthe monkey paw curlsfor the MASSIVE upside of a bayonet in your weapon, it will now have Eruptor-level ergonomics, less damage than the Punisher, 1/3rd the magazine size of the Punisher and a longer reload.
>buffbrown making shit up and self-victimizing again
Has anyone here actually ever encountered a poo in HD2, or ANY in any game for that matter? I think they are the one race I have never encountered while gaming so seeing this indian/izzat shit here is fucking weird and feels like /vg/ autism infecting the general.
>>551647778>t.
Just tuned in back from holiday.What's with the choke on Tarsh?>>551595216Despite being maxxed out, I collect samples since always on 150 level for few reasons:- it's a side effects while looking for SCs- I love POIs being greyed out (cities doesn't do that?)>>551643572Can they add stripper clip to bolt action beforehand?
>>551647778I did encounter a negro with open mic in Darktide once and could even hear his fire alarm beeping lol, I uploaded it to catbox and coopg many months ago
>>551647401check>worse ergonomics than its counterparts>longer reload than its counterparts>shorter magazine than its counterparts>less ammo than its counterparts>lightpenlmao thanks for proving my point.
>>551647868How retarded are you? I HATE indians. They are infesting my work area (yes fucking IT) and they make me sick. There incompetent and once one gets a management position they multiply rapidly. I only feel anger seeing shit about them so I would prefer if you autists would keep that trash in your gacha threads.
>>551649240We are talking about poos, not coons. Everyone knows those infest street fighter.
>>551647778Met a guy on LoL like, 5 or some more years ago. He was perma-bronze and only played ADC. He played nothing but ranked, 200+ games a season and was hardstuck bronze.I don't know how to explain how other than he was just not playing the same game as everyone else and had these total fantasies and delusions about how the game actually worked.Nice dude tho at least.
>tv speakers>soundbar>headphonesWhich one for just stereo desktop speakers? And is there any tactical advantage for using this 'midnight mode'?
>>551649572WrongWrongWrongWrongWr- oh you got that one right
>>551651971It's all factually right. Cope.
>>551643572The heavy flamer is cool as fuck
>>551650454Just use TV speaker option, also all midnight mode does in games is amplify certain game sounds like voices or footsteps while having the volume low
>>551643572S-tier if the fuel tanks explode when I shoot it
Sometimes I open my alt account that's unbanned from the HD2 server just to watch the amazing ragebait in the balance discussion channel
>>551657000>constitution in too good needs a nerfgot an audible chuckle out of me
>>551657000It's mostly correct though, at least correct in saying which weapons perform above average and which perform below average.
>One-Two>above average
>>551657350it is on d1
>>551657000>the 'trap' reactioneven they know this shit is bait
Weapon feels good=neeeeeeerfWeapons feels like ass=balanced
>>551657000I really like the Eruptor because it allows you to very easily filter out players between shitters and non-shitters depending on their opinion of it. A faggot makes a tier list and it's anywhere above B or equivalent? This user is a fucking lobotomized neanderthal leaving on IQ subsidies from the Swedish state and can safely be ignored.
Are we getting helmet modifiers anytime soon? I want some ODST shit
Which primary should i use if i want everyone to know i have a small dick?
>>551658150>autocorrect changes living to leaving and I don't notice>on a post where i claim others are retardedGAHHHHHHHH
>>551658239the revolver
>>551658239The dickle, it's in the name desu desu
>>551657000>mfw i have been using coyote only since it was released
>>551657000I agree the coyote is overtuned. Needs to have either lower damage or bump down to LAP
>>551657000I don't understand why people think the eruptor is op. It's ergonomics are fucking dogshit and the damage doesn't make up for being a big clunky retard of a gun.
>>551658871aiiieee how come you can kill 3 hive guards with one magazine NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF
>>551658239>>551658502Can you use the dickle so I can shoot stims into you?
>>551659698It's because it's a mini-Autocannon in your primary slot that can also technically kill Hulks by shooting their eye out. It IS a great weapon but it's got downsides that match its upsides, such as the fact that the projectile is so slow that actually killing a Hulk through its tiny weakpoint hitbox is totally unreliable to do. It sucks to kill sparsely-placed groups of enemies with it, but it gets easy killstreaks if you shoot at dropships and it cleans up bug breaches if you spam it. It can still destroy spewers, holes/fabs, side objectives, deal full damage to Devastators and Hive Guards and Biles. I don't think it's OP but it's up there in usefulness.
>>551658150Anon, from an objective point of view, it's the best primary by a margin.>AP4>Demo 20>Explosive>torqued as fuck burst damageYou need to understand that an Eruptor user and an AR user are not even playing the same game. Ergonomics, reload speed and all that other gay shit does not matter when your primary weapon is capable of raping groups of enemies and heavy targets in a single shot.
I TRAVEL THE WORLD AND THE SEVEN SEASEVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR LOBBYd10 bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242963108246/76561198027910192
>>551660574>Failed to join lobbyFUCK
>>551660574FVLL
>>551659698Has it been half a year since you last played or something?
I don't get it.
>>551661096it's the liberator, but med pen. you need more?
>>551661096Currently saving medals for this. PLEASE tell me it's an actual upgrade to the Lib.
>>551661425I found it a bit anemic, but once you get the drum mag it's decent.
>>551661096ease of use
>>551643572I like how everyone ignores it'd be a ranged flamethrower which would immediately improve it.
>>551661096>>551661425Here's the deal:- More armor penetration is more versatility - There's a handful of enemies where you get to damage parts you can't with light pen (chicken strider cock, tank & turret vents, devastator chests, hive guard heads, the squid harvester joints etc.) and while that is convenient, they all tend to be less-than-ideal targets: if you're using a libpen to shoot at a tank's vent, you would be much better off with any other weapon.- In general, a weapon being medium pen implies downgrades everywhere else. This *is* the case with the libpen vs lib, but other than a near 30% reduction in damage, the libpen doesn't lose nearly enough ergo or recoil for it to matter, making it still really easy to use, and the reduction in damage is less evident against light armor enemies, where the default lib's damage is already reduced by ~30% due to the armor's damage reduction, meaning the libpen performs pretty much identically to the lib against alpha commanders and overseers.If you're good at aiming, and have the proper loadout to have the ideal tools for every situation, the default liberator will be better than the libpen most of the time, killing enemies faster and being snappier to handle, but the libpen is a more versatile weapon to use when you don't have all weak points practiced and memorized, or just don't wanna constantly swap weapons around to engage targets optimally.
>>551657000This is the same guy that says warp pack needs to be nerfed.People that want nerfs genuinely just hate anything that's better in some way and want it tuned down. It doesn't matter if it's game breaking, or just fun. They only look at output.
>>551661425Liberator is probably the best gun in the game
>>551661169It just feels like the Coyote, Adjudicator, and even MA5C do its job but better.
>>551661425It's a sidegrade to the normal Lib.Against bots you don't really need it if you can consistently aim for weakpoints. Although medpen is useful for killing scout striders from the front on lower difficulties. You really do feel the lower damage against chaff.I think it's better against bugs because bug weakpoints aren't that vulnerable and a lot of them have medium armor or light armor that reduces lightpen weapon damage by 33%There's zero reason to bring it against squids. You ain't killing harvesters or interlopers in a timely manner with the Libpen, and everything else gets destoyed by lightpen weapons.
>>551663245Coyote is just good all around. Abjud has shit handling and recoil Ma5c has shit reloadBefore the bug rework, libpen used to be a direct upgrade to liberator. It still kinda is outside bugs. But ap3 is pretty useless now on them
>>5516605743/4 predditors and stalkers>>551660791now's your chance!
>>551664587>Before the bug rework, libpen used to be a direct upgrade to liberator. It still kinda is outside bugs.how?
>>551664987>failedIt's over, it's fvll
>>551665463it is unfortunately, the spot was quickly taken
>>551664990Every break point was two shots for both liberator and lib pen outside scavs. while also having the ability to carve through hive guards. Liberator really didn't have anything over lib pen until they upped durability making it take 50% more shots vs warriors. I frankly have no idea why they nerfed it vs. Hive guard though. Thing still shits on bots and ap3 is always nice to have in any situation. Illuminate is another story but again it's nice having something for Interlopers, I've killed a few harvies with it but it's not fun.
What could be...
>>551667150fake and gay
>>551667150I want Titanfall 2 but with HD2 gameplay, mech only.
>>551661096It took me until right now to realize that it really is just the liberator with a bit of extra plastic on the end and a longer barrel
>>551668276just play frontier defense mode in titanfall 2?
>they're gonna release 8 player missions before they release the cultists, cyborgs, APC, Bastion, and 3 warbonds all of which are already in the files...
>>551662894>>551663373You guys do know they reduced Scout and Rocket Strider legs to AV2, right? If you don't have AP3 you can just aim there instead of the crotch.
>team having fun killing titans and behemoths with double freedoms, warp pack, grenade launcher, autocannon, maxigun>4th random joins with RR>instakills every heavy the second they spawn inbooooriiiiiiiing
>>551660574gegesi forgive you furdiver
>>551671802Don't worry AH is working on fixing the problem, soon the double freedom, warp pack, grenade launcher, autocannon, and maxigun will be unable to kill heavies.
>>551660574ggs, predditors are very intense alwaysI think I had the most fun with the gunmaxxing build, killing everything before it reaches you is VERY cool.>>551671942I'm still a bit sorry. I knew you were in a pinch but figured you could dodge the charger and I could get the ammo to kill it, didn't expect the impaler corpse to still be there blocking my shot (and your movement).
>maxigun>gatling sentry>machinegun sentry>orbital gatling
>>551671802Just don't pick it? How does this affect you personally?
>he takes antitank to squid missionsWhat other mistakes do you only see noobs make?
>>551667150>could've gone full mechwarrior>assigning armor points>weight-limits>ammo management>armaments>utility>appearance
>>551667150>no modular mech>no modular car>no modular armors>only the most bare bones weapon customization imaginablegrim
dooku lobbyepstein bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242976781379/76561198085764721
>>551671802Play in a private lobby
>>551673320>>551673947Making all of that sounds like work. Sheeesh.
fvll
my asshole, I mean.
haven't seen anyone mention the tank in a while which is pretty neat, lots of other stuff in the future to talk abouti really hope that the clan feature drops, maybe at the same time as the supposed eight player missions
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242980994232/76561198023232654bots lobby
How would you fix these dudes? They always feel like non-issues, just rolling around and firing in your general direction until you blow them up with an AT weapon. The Shredder version feels the least dogshit since it can at least kill you every now and then, and the Barrager version needs its AI fixed so that it actually does its fucking job.
>>5516798182/4
>>551680625Make them really fast and give them the ability to shoot while drifting
>>551679818full
>>551680625Increase both their driving and turret traverse speed.
>>551681234>>551680625This. They are almost no different from stationary turrets because they're so slow.If they were faster they'd be a real menace without making them harder to kill with AT.
>>551680625just decrease the firing delay, everything else is fine
>>551671802there is literally nothing fun about killing bile titans with any of the listed weapons
>>551681664Actually I was thinking initial D drifting
I might be misremembering but did Tarsh always only have settlements or did Joel just rig it so we lose it anyway? Not to mention how Eagle storm barely moved up in donations (it's rigged as well)
>>551680625Give them a warp-drive for easy traversal.
>>551680625This thing has only managed to kill me when I didn't even know it was on the field
>>551681234>>551681495This and they should make constant effort to roadkill your ass.
>>551680625Make them half as wide, 3/4 as long, double the turret traverse rate and up the speed significantly. A tank should be pushing your shit in, not be a randomy placed static turret.
>>551683007Thats the problem with the Galactic War. They cant have any "interesting" MOs unless they rig it to lose. These Swedes arnt creative enough to be running this.
>>551682649it is actually a challenge to do
>>551680625Give it APS
>>551683925yeah its also a challenge to take a shit standing up but that doesnt make it fun
>>551683925>sub-optimal gameplay for the sake of contrarianismPunks like you wouldn't make it 3 minutes in my lobbies.
D10Lobby Pickssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775242983943098/76561197999417031
>>5516846432/4
Give mortar emplacementGive gas barrageGive walking gatling barrageGive eagle mine dropGive eagle anti air strikeGive radio backpackGive tank
>>5516846433/4
>>551685516>radio backpackExplain.
>>551684643full
>>551685880>support weapon binoculars + backpack with a long call in cooldown>binoculars function as a marker with a 10x scope>after marking a position, structure or enemy the user can drop a red stratagem (destroyer or eagle) on it with reduced call in time instead of throwing a stratagem ball
>>551663373>I think it's better against bugs because bug weakpoints aren't that vulnerable and a lot of them have medium armor or light armor that reduces lightpen weapon damage by 33%The only bugs that have 2 armour weaskpots are brood/alpha commanders, hive guard, nursing spewers, and broken charger legs.But the thing is the liberator does 30% more damage than the lib pen so the reduction from armour doesn't actually put the liberator that much behind the lib pen. Against an alpha commander the liberator takes off the head in 10 shots, the liberator penetrator in 9.The only thing the liberator penetrator gets you is being able to center mass hive guard heads (9 shots for lib pen) instead of having to go for their claws (4 shots total for lib but requires accuracy) and being able to dome bile spewers instead of going for their (now enlarged and weaker) mouths
>>551687190this would instantly trivialize entirely bot jammers and dec towers, ultimatum style, but somehow worse
>>551679818thanks for the fun games, anons!was thinking of hosting a different faction lobby later but tarsh MUST be taken and all hands are on deck
>>551671802Ive done like 5 bug missions no RR and bile titans just instantly die
>>551687190how would you "throw" the red strat on the marker point?
>FOV dropped low>camera shake strong>turned off as many hud elements as I can while still being able to playkind of unplayable but very immersive way to play this game I think I'm carried by high FOV
>>551687190>1 guy brings in this bino+pack>rest of the squad all brings reds>drop in the middle of the map/some high ground>1 guy graps bino, calls in reds>drops it>next guy picks it up, calls in reds>repeat x2>entire map is cleared, in 1 minute
>>551687190Add the MGSV binocscopemarker
>>551612180Just embrace Rambo fantasy and have the things auto-lock onto heads. Behind the scenes have it lockon to shit like the robocop pistol except it targets heads. A single target easy headpopper probably still isn't worth it compared to actual meta grenades, but someone will probably find an enjoyable niche for it.
>>551684643beautiful picture
>>551684643GGs.
>>551686389hardest difficulty should crush even 2000+ hour mega autists on meta gearthere should be no "easy if you bring X" condition
>>551694675I will never understand masochists.
>>551694675okay so what happen when the community eventually managed to adapt and pushed through? Diff 12 where you have a random chance of having a nuke dropped on you and immediately lose? This forced artificial difficulty nerf troon fantasy horseshit will never make sense to me.
>>551695313success should have to be earnedif everyone is declared a winner, no-one actually is>>551695635d12-15, and yes they should be rage inducing, everyone can be required to have at least enough mental fortitude to not get sad or mad at losing at a video game>but I dun wanna lose and feel bad :(in that case your one rational course of action is not to play in the first place
>>551695313>>551695635You're mentally impaired, there's no other explanation. Get your brain checked
>>551695313Theyre not. Hes just someone that wants the game to be harder so he can not play it.>>551695941>success should have to be earned>if everyone is declared a winner, no-one actually isSounds like Darktide Havoc is perfect for you!
>>551696226Helldivers 2 is perfect for me. The real Helldivers 2 that is, not the reddit-catered abomination that's wearing the game's skin. Difficulty 11 has to happen. Swedes are fatally mistaken for believing otherwise.
>>551696580Youre never getting your nerftranny paradise back since it nearly killed the game. Go play Darktide.
>>551695941Hey fag, just because you did every right by the book and life still fucked you over, doesn't mean you have to project your pathetic shitty little worthless existence into video games.>NOOO YOU ARE MEANT TO LOSE, THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO! IT'S OVEReat shit>>551696178you are mentally retarded if you want FORCED LOSS in video games with literally 0 agency from the players
>dive alone>suddenly reinforcements, survival, and the mission timer matter again>as do loadout choices, aim, movement, situational awarenessGetting in a squad makes the game less fun. Nice co-op title.
>>551687190Target painter support would be epic.How to balance it for jammers?Just make it overpowered for the first week or two and then release some kind of smokescreen or atmospheric modification device that cast heavy fog or something in the range of the jammers so you cant target them for a distance.
>>551696960Go play Darktide.
I'm pretty sure the "nerf troons" are just pretending to be retarded, there's no way they are that stupid. Probably ragebaiting
>>551696772Yes I am. Eventually the game has to start catering to its top percentile players in order to survive. It's not possible to make a game that's easy enough for bufftoddlers. It is however entirely possible to simply consneed and give us d11-15 alongside more armored, higher range, and actually threatening enemy units. No market for helldive & chill. All the market for sweatdivers.
>Picked the Laser Warbond>Unlocked the last piece of the "Oops, all Lasers" loadout>Also the ShockgunHoly man this one is super fun. Playing fun stuff is so much fun
>>551695941So what the fuck is the point of playing the game when you know you have a 100% chance of losing a game in the first place? Nerf trannies are fucking retarded
when are they adding the laser shotgun from the first game
>>551643572The dual-tank backpack flamethrower should be better in every way than our current small single-tank flamethrower. A proper flamethrower that actually uses thickened fuel (napalm, baby). It should have a much longer range at the very least. Unfortunately, it is foolish to get your hopes up with Swedes.https://youtu.be/bRtxO2OnIHQ?t=57
>>551697630This was recently leaked alongside the WW1 warbond, soon(tm)
What about.. Making them actually hit where reticle is>>551613010Maybe on a recharge that would be perfect. But I guess that goes against everythhing else in game
>>551658185There was an anon who's game glitched and produced a similar effect.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242995591444/Jeet Brigade on Trash or Bug on Omicron
>>551697563Why are you afraid of losing? There's no penalty for mission failure. The only negatively affected thing would be the galactic war which should always be ignored anyway. And controller players but lol lmao consoles in year of our lord twenty twenty six.
>>551680625Make them dodge your shots.
>>551698465Stop enjoying being a loserIt's unhealthy
I got the One-Two to lvl 22 and that's where it'll stay until they fix it. Fucking POS eats magazines and then becomes unusable for no reason
What am I in for?
>>551698696I cannot feasibly lose for as long as this game is balanced for average (read: bad) players
>>5516983182/4
>>551698772the game playing itself
>>551698772the best anti-bot AT turret we have. It has a better ammo economy than the AC turret, though slightly worse damage output, technically. I find it very reliable, when it isn't easily sniped by the enemies. Keep them distracted and it'll do major work.
>>5516983183/4
>>551698772overtuned posyou'll be delighted in case you want it easydisgusted in case you have integrity
>>551698091This makes me want thermals for those foggy-ass city maps
>>551687190Gimme this and reduced cooldown reds. I wanna be able to call in OPS at like 40% cooldown reduction.
>>551698772A powerul automated turret, effective against armored targets. The turret will primarily aim at larger enemies. Says so right there
>>551689616Sounds like FRVYou could give it a distance cap like 200 meters
>>5516983183/4 JOIN RIGHT MEOW
>>551698867Ok, goodIf you want the game to be harder, play it with a gh guitar or donkey Kong bongos or something instead of calling for nerfs
>>551612180Make it accurate. Increase swap to speed so you throw instantly. Give it like 10 more knives. Boom done
>>551699519noswedes should simply roll back the 60 day patchit was a bad call and diminished the game
Game honestly just feels braindead In 3-4 man. Like the game feels fine with 2 but the scaling doesn't work past that. Feels like I'm on autopilot half the missions when I throw down SOS beacon.
>>551699469Groundbreaker looks a million times better when you replace it with the chud helmet.
>>551698318full
>>551699776exactlythe biggest challenge of being in a squad is actually getting any shots in before everything is dead and solved, shit's boring in the most frustrating way possible
>>551699694Name one thing the 60 day patch actually did wrong that made the game too easy.
>>551697398>Eventually the game has to start catering to its top percentile players in order to surviveWe already have a game that does that. Its called Darktide. Go play Darktide.
>>551699935The game is nearly two years old. Practically all of the problems have already been solved. Play with less autistically-inclined players who have all of the meta solutions memorized.I guess what I'm saying is; turn on Crossplay.
>>551699935It's boring then you get like ragdoll spammed. Ironically I have enough shit to kill on warstriders seed cause no one bothers killing them. Feel like I'm just fighting to find shit to shoot and even see. While also trying not to bash my head against the keyboard when I get ragdolled a gorillian times.Just feels all over the place. Like it's just a silly game I'm not supposed to take seriously.
>>551699997recoilless rifle buff>b-but it was literally heckin unusable beforewrong, skill issue>>551700196"just handicap urself" will never be an argumentthey should just implement d11, there's not a single decent argument for not doing so
>>551700196>Practically all of the problems have already been solved.They broke silent chargers again, and host status effects.
>>551700553*Obnoxiously loud buzzer*WRONG ANSWER CHUD. Recoiless isn't even a problem in lobbies. You can kill so much shit with the rest of your kit. Worst thing with the 60 day patch was shooting fabs to kill them. Recoiless is like the most benign shit in the meta right now frankly.
>>551700553>actually the AT option that takes up both your weapon slot and your backpack slot shouldn't do AT very wellFascinating mindset.
>reddit post about meta>Sudden influx of everyone bringing strafing run Man how long before they nerf strafing run
Daily reminder there's a middle ground between absolutely piss easy and pre 60 day patch by the way
Leg meta was more fun than one shotting heavies (fact)
>>551701042Anyone that says recoiless is OP are just malding because the RR kills shit before they dance around for five hours trying to kill it with indirect means. I will say it does drive me up a wall seeing a bleeding behemoth get shot by a recoiless, and the recoiless tard spam "I need supplies!"
>>551700869the entire patch was misguided, not just aspects of itoneshotting heavies simply shouldn't be a thing, why have heavies to begin with if they can be despawned with one of the easiest to use weapons in the game?
>>551701162Honestly 60 day patch basically fixed 90% of under powered shit and the gay ass anti heavy meta. I honestly think anyone that hates it is just trying to bait or has no idea how bad it was. It was probably the healthiest change for the game. The problem is that swedes are lazy and incompetent and dont know how to tweak their game.
>>551701042indeed, player power should be limitedgood shooters simulate struggle, not power fantasies
>>551701574nah, it was completely fineif you didn't find the game too easy even well before the 60-day patch all it means is that you're bad at the game
>>551701291Why have more chaff if I can throw a grenade that kills a bunch of them.The entire point is to give the rocket guy validity for bringing the rocket in the first place. He is hyper specialized into one job, so unless you halved spawn rates and doubled their HP you really can't balance a 6 shot rocket launcher to not kill 6 things if they hit their heads.That and Making it easy sets a low skill floor to also open up a wider player base as well. Like there are so many things to be mad at, recoiless is such a benign problem. To the point id say it's probably the best thing introduced because it gives newbies a way to actually handle heavies without resorting to esoteric wiki knowledge and meta.
>>551701630>good shooters simulate struggle, not power fantasiesAlright I'll bite, what good game follows this logic.
>>551701574No it didn't, that patch only brought HP and damage inflation, everything was slowly getting more viable before then
>>551701876>open up a wider player baseshouldn't be done if it diminishes the game's quality which is what occurred here
>>551701630power fantasy or struggle is a false dichotomy, nudoom is the definition of power fantasy yet high difficulties are still a massive struggle while still retaining the power fantasy
>>551701998you will find that the most beloved games of our time have merciless difficulty tiers to thembut for specific examples there are Doom, Quake, Half-Life, the better half of the UT games, hell even modernslop like Halo and CoD provide extreme difficulty modes for those that want them
>>551702035>everything was slowly getting more viable before then>Crossbow nerfed when it was unanimously considered the worst primary at the time >>551702063Having Timmy shoot a rocket and kill a heavy isnt ruining the game. It makes it easier to approach and enjoy with friends. Honestly what ruins it is all the bugs and bullshit they keep adding.
Good weapons before 60+3 days>AC AMR Spear GL LC RG HMG MMG Arc Thrower Flamer EATsGood weapons after 60+3 days>AC AMR Spear GL LC RG HMG MMG EATs RR
>>551702376>It makes it easierYes that's what I'm mad about. It was easy enough before. It should be made harder.>with friendsIf they don't want to bring their A game to your sessions they're not really your friends.
>>551702279Hehehehe half life had a piss easy hard mode desu. It was also boring just made guns hit like wet blankets. Honestly all those games just did boring shit where enemies got more spongey. Outside like doom and halo. Anyways that's not the question. The question is like what game actually makes itself more enjoyable by pulling away from power fantasy. None of those games do that. If anything they're all about the power fantasy of the player.
>>551702480Forgot Commando before, but not after
>>551702573>If they don't want to bring their A game to your sessions they're not really your friends.Lol okay fair enough dude, usually I don't turbo sweat around my friends. Cause they work 9 to 5s and I don't want to scare them away from the shit I play.
>>551694675Keep your CBT fantasies to yourself.
>>551702738If mere 8 hours of work under modern standards are enough to put them in a state of mental and/or physical exhaustion they're not even WORTH being called your friends.
>>551702480>FlamerDidn't kill heavies and wouldnt kill chaff that just got in your face. It was pretty much useless. Also what happened to arc thrower post 60 day?
I want the warstrider nades to stop ragdolling honestly. They do no damage the moment you get ragdolled and they just exist to annoy you.
>>551698772Violence.
>>551702951>>Flamer >Didn't kill heavies and wouldnt kill chaff that just got in your face>Flamer>Didn't kill heavies and wouldn't kill chaffCertified "didn't play the game">Arc ThrowerNothing happened to it so it got massively powercrept
>>551703460If you clicked on red warriors they'd be in your face before they even lost half their health. Flamethrower was fucking shit back then and required gas and medic armor spam.
>>551703119>get pinned down >war strider dumps 100 grenades directly on top of my head>first one goes off, ragdolling me 15 meters to safety for about 10% of my hpHeh, better luck next time, kid.
>>551703460
>>551703563>Red warriors>Before EoF>Before Flamer giganerf
>>551703698It's kinda funny, but it feels like it's missing something to make it actually funny. Maybe the grenades need a fart noise.
>increase HP on heavies so you can't onetap them with literally any AT solution from almost any angle>reduce spawn rate to match so it's actually a big deal when they show upand swedes will never do it
>>551703773Before 60 day ESL kun
>>551703906How else are we supposed to make things harder without heavy spam, huh?
>>551703906The problem is that's kinda what happened, but AH got mad people were killing dozens of heavies on the meme difficulty
>>551704067There weren't any "red warriors" before EoF and the Flamer went through enemies
You now remember the Warrant being able to kill Hulks from the front
>>551701876>you really can't balance a 6 shot rocket launcher to not kill 6 things if they hit their heads.getting a one-shot for hitting their heads or critical area is fine.getting a one-shot for hitting the literal last pixel on the tip of their arm or the edge of a side skirt with nothing but air behind it isn't
You now remember the Spear being broken until like 2 weeks before the 60 day patch hit, only to be rendered obsolete by the new buffed RR
>>551702951>Also what happened to arc thrower post 60 day?the HP inflation of chargers made it go from 8 shots to kill a behemoth to 16, and 6 vs regular chargers to 9. Before the 60 day patch you only needed to bring EATs to deal with bile titans, post 60 days you need EATs to deal with all bug heavies
>>551704861>The Commando isn't great but being able to destroy 4 fabs from any angle is pretty useful sometimes, I hope they don't nerf that or make everything else able to destroy fabs too
You now remember the Libcon being able to kill Leviathans from the tail
>>551705167Fucking up and accidentally releasing the commando with 40 demo force and its consequences has been a disaster for game balance
>>551705158Oh yeah I remember that. I remember telling people flamethrower and arc thrower being good choices for charger kill while rockets killed biletitans would be a good way to balance shit. AH fucking smited that idea
>>551705382It wasn't, they just needed to fix Jammers blowing up with fabs explosions. You could already destroy fabs from 300m away with the AC anyways
>>551705567>You could already destroy fabs from 300m away with the AC anywaysfrom exceedingly specific angles that allowed you to bounce a shot off the vent hatch in such a way to ricochet it down into the vent opening, meaning you often had to either spend a lot of time circling a long way around the base to get everything or had to go into the base anyways to get the shot
>>551705567Blowing up jammers with fabs was nice. Honestly I don't get why people love jammers so much, they basically exist to enable double blues and AT spam blues. Like fuck relying on your strategems
>>551705864>Like fuck relying on your strategemssupport weapons are stratagems
>>551705864It's a nice break from niggabarraging every problem away
>>551705958True but it just disables half your kit and promotes a samey play style that too much shit promotes already. Like fuck you if you wanna combo arc thrower stun with ops for instance.
>>551705567>>551705783oh yeah, also, giving fabs HP and armour pretty much eliminated the AC bounce shot. you need to get a direct hit into the vent itself now meaning the AC actually got worse, not better, at killing fabricators
>>551658185I used to want augmented vision but eventually realized that needing perfect visual is a pure skill issue
>>551705864Storming a stratagem jammer during a bot drop while evading mortars and gunships is peak kino.
>>551706743>Why yes I spam explosives in the general direction of enemies how could you tell?
How hasn't there been a 40k crossover?
>>551706836this. jammers are the one of the few objectives that actually make you engage with them head on instead of throwing a red as you jog by. I wish detector towers needed a hellbomb tier explosion to blow up.
>>551706743This... I'd rather just get actual fucking audio that works and doesn't need two mods to be barely almost halfway functional
>>551706836Once you get to the console you're basically set. Main problem is like the 5 warstriders and 3 hulks in the way. Good luck getting support fire from juan sanchez using the recoiless.
>>551706872nah I actually detest most aoe weaponry because it makes an already too simple game even simplerget your favorite chatbot to explain the concept of object permanence
>>551707083Object permeance doesnt apply when you can't see shit 5 meters Infront of you
I went back to playing one of the games I used to play in the past a lot and after few days of playing I'm baffled when I come back to play few rounds and everything about this game screams unfinished mess.I got stuck on ground geometry 2 times while playing these few rounds today, I got stuck on corpse hitboxes many more times beyond that. Crazy ragdolls and telegraphed attacks that shouldn't hit happen a lot on predditor strain because of tongue attack (I was the host so you can't blame lag on this shit).Meanwhile in titanfall 2 everything works correctly, the netcode isn't perfect but it's doing good enough (meele attacks are fucking bullshit sometimes). Game looks good while maxing out the refresh rate of my display, you genuinely don't get stuck on anything while sliding around and doing all the wallruns and it's perfectly clear this game was playtested to death to make sure the maps didn't have weird spots.I had the same reaction after playing Cronos: A New Dawn and the game simply felt good, played good, wasn't broken, looked good. Was fun, felt like combination of Dead Space with Resident Evil. After finishing that game I went back to HD2 and I had the urge to facepalm at how fucking unfinished HD2 is. Worst part is that HD2 is in the worst hands possible because swiggers are god damned awful devs and awful people too and balancing the game based on spreadsheets with pickrates and win/loss rates is unironically inhuman and proves that AH is a soulless studio.At this point I would faster believe an early access release, and I'm actually pretty sure I will entrust those few dollars to buy myself Jump Space and if it turns out to be good then I'm out of here. I legitimately can't deal with this game anymore without having profound desire to legitimately bomb the studio HQ. The knowledge of how fucking bad at gamedev AH is makes my blood boil and makes my mind become engulfed in the flames of murderous intent. Nuke sweden.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>551707015Because guardsmen are the only sci fi grunt worse off than SEAF. A super helldive mission would be like a vacation to a squad of imp guardsmen.
>>551707226you can spot via audio, radar, or just observing where you're being shot fromneeding perfect visual is and always has been a skill issuethere are extremely few situations in which visual is so bad that you cannot feasibly work around itget good
>>551707375me this past week going back to division 2. It has it's issues but it's solid fun and they keep adding shit to the game for free. The winter event was really fun
>>551707375I 100% feel you I stopped playing on omicron because the invisible corpses just got me too angry. Like I went from darktide where every enemy has this perfect telegraph to this. I swore pretty hard when a charger eventually snuck up on me.Really feels like I just got used to this shit and coming back is eye opening.
>>551707015I want to play as a krieg korp
>>551707586>AudioBuffed>RadarSorry buddy host picked the spore mal>Observing where you're being shot atOops looks like the game desynced shots so you can't actually see the projectile >There's extremely few-The entire bug faction.
>>551707015A random guardsman calling in or ital bombardments is immersion breaking.
>>551707375Crazy how Titanfall 2 runs better than HD2 for me.I had to switch to DX11 and tweak settings just to make HD2 run consistently without having frame drops.
>>551708062you're coping
>>551708062Bugged* audioAlso not to mention all the fog planets that restrict your vision to a few feet.
>>551708062increase the difficulty
>>551707473I'm not sure guardsmen are that tough or badassIgnoring technological differences, a helldiver is probably way better than a guardsman, only thing is guardsman are deployed in the billions so instead of 4 helldivers fighting in a single mission it's be 40.000 (heh) guardsmen
>>551708176Coping is playing something else until they fix this. What I'm doing is bitching.
>>551708356Guardsmen are OP as fuck depending on the wank. Like fully augmented. Helldivers tho are like spartan tier with the amount of shit they lift and survive. So it's hard to say. Ironically people that say helldivers shouldn't be able to melee bugs are kinda retarded with the casual physical feats they perform.
>>551708356don't care. I want a lasgun so I can finally get an actual sickle instead of the ballistic assault rifle with regenerating magazine we have
How DARE the enemy sully our well-sucked cocks.
>>551708547Imagine if the steam was that big in HD2
>>551708530Helldivers are probably genetically augmented considering the ministry of humanity has gene management as one of its directives.
>>551707898same
>>551707715Somehow I feel like it would be hard to find a released game that would be as broken as HD2. I didn't play the division because I was angry at the bullshots that were used in the promotional campaign.>>551707825Yeah, it really feels like HD2 is only getting away with it because there's still this fun game underneath but it's being constantly being curb stomped by AH and just refuses to die.>>551708153TF2 runs on modified source engine. It's not weighted down by thousand shaders and badly written rendering pipelines of modern engines. And tons of stuff in the game is baked into the maps so the game only calculates the players and AI forces. It's an old game, it had to run on old consoles. Was it originally PS4 and XBONE?
>>551708640How!?... How did the clankers unsuck my cock!???????
are the nerf indians gone? are the thread finally usable again?
>>551708530helldiver endurance alone is frighteningsure they're just 40 minute long but the helldiver is constantly jogging, sprinting or diving while carrying an entire weapon system like a recoiless rifle or AC + a primary, secondary, all the ammo for all these weapons and ~4 grenadesthere's no amount of super pervitin that gives that much stamina, helldivers must be true-blue freaks of nature on top of that.
>>551709076Its like 6 or 7am there and on a sundayThey will be back soon
>>551709230Considering they casually carry half a ton like it's a small baby on a high gravity lava planet leads me to believe their armor and gear is like wearing nothing at all.
>>551709076>are the threadSaar... Stop projecting
>>551708356Depends who's writing. Sometimes guardsman are basically what AH says helldivers are, chaff for the grinder who dies by the horde and maybe achieve something.Others depict them as what they are - the top recruits from planetary defence forces, and a competent and trained military force, capable of standing their own against many of the Imperiums enemies, and often winningI personally like how they are written in Commisar Cain books
>>551709423The standard helldiver gear literally states in the description that it's made from the same titanium in Super Destroyer hulls.
SAAAAAR NERF EVERYTHING NOWW, NEEDFUL D11 NOW
>>551709230>>551709423Servo armor is the most obvious explanation, especially when there's literal protestics that are better than a flesh body already, but swiggers are too dumb for that
>>551708530We are more than strong enough to be able to judo-throw counter Chargers.
Why can't we bring a Platinum bar with us and exchange it for super credit?
>>551709979Because the extra pelican fuel used is deducted from your account
>>551709581Should add, it weighs like nothing at all to them*
>>551709763To be fair chargers likely weigh 20 tons
>>551710454If the platinum bars are 500 factorial kilograms, then they weigh 1220136825991110068701238785423046926253574342803192842192413588385845373153881997605496447502203281863013616477148203584163378722078177200480785205159329285477907571939330603772960859086270429174547882424912726344305670173270769461062802310452644218878789465754777149863494367781037644274033827365397471386477878495438489595537537990423241061271326984327745715546309977202781014561081188373709531016356324432987029563896628911658974769572087926928871281780070265174507768410719624390394322536422605234945850129918571501248706961568141625359056693423813008856249246891564126775654481886506593847951775360894005745238940335798476363944905313062323749066445048824665075946735862074637925184200459369692981022263971952597190945217823331756934581508552332820762820023402626907898342451712006207714640979456116127629145951237229913340169552363850942885592018727433795173014586357570828355780158735432768888680120399882384702151467605445407663535984174430480128938313896881639487469658817504506926365338175055478128640000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 kilograms. And we can throw them.
>>551710178I thought helldivers don't get paid?
Are the helldivers clones and that's why they're on ice?
>Go to other theads>People shitposting and funposting about the game>Go to HDG threads>Endless seething about the game, baiting, rage baiting and self-felatio non-fucking stopWhats wrong with you retards?
>>551711552Nerf pajeets are on their day off today, please bare with us
>>551711656>please bare with usAnon..... Youre one of them....
>>551711656lmao ESL tard boy exposing himself
>>551711380Every time you get the cutscene of the helldiver stepping out of cryo, that's a different helldiver from the helldiver you were playing last time.
How do you change the fuse time on the dynamite?
>>551643572The helmet kinda reminds of the Coalition soldiers from Cortex Command. And the gameplay mechanics of Cortex Command inspires new schizo headcanon building upon the "you are the destroyer, not the helldiver" idea.https://youtu.be/yWQt96OD9zc
>>551711941>>551711746my bad for having dutch as my first language
>>551712163Press 4 and hold R.
>>551711380That sounds incredibly inefficient. Surely a civilization capable of FTL could harness cloning.
>>551643572>peacemaker reskin>gaylo shotgun reskin>meme flamethrower with backpack that probably don't work half of the time due to DoT bug>armor probably do fire / gas resist or somethingAnother mid bond
>>551712307*hindi
>>551711552It's a highly advanced bot farm created by Arrowhead to sabotage 4chan threads talking about their games, it's manufactured opposition so that people don't talk about the REAL problems like not being able to fuck the automatons, not being able to fuck the bugs, not being able to fuck the squids, and the Sterilizer being trash.
One shudders to envisage what repulsive larvae gestates within the Gloom as we speak.
How would you fix it?
>>551713252+2 mags, +3 grenades
>>551713252not have a jeet ceo for starters
>>551713252it's perfect already wym
>>551713252Give it 35 ergonomic, more 1 more grenade so it won't powercreep the GL pistol, 2 more mags
>>551713252Move the scope further forward so it doesn't hit me in the face when I shoot
>>551713252>Spare mags to 7>Total grenades to 6>Ergo to 40
>>551713389Not only is he a jeet, he's the ex-VP of Business development at Paradox Interactive.
>>551709589did you just look up angry indian man on google or something what the fuck is that watermark
Only indians beg for d11 because telling everyone the game is too easy and they want more challenge increases their izzat
>>551713819this game is fucking doomed
>>551714452coomed*
>>551713819Shams is Iranian, Jorjani is a sandnigger surname
How do squid dropships affect the air quality?
>>551715514they pollute the cities with their alien stench
>>551713252It already feels pretty good though. You can already completely negate its downside by taking Peak Physique, or strip the optics attachment for more ergo (it feels like a pretty good bullet hose anyhow, so not like you're going to miss it). The 4x scope even feels mostly fine in combination with semi auto mode.Only things I'd ask for are a laser/flashlight option (maybe put it on the side instead of under the grenade launcher), and a short mag option so that it can benefit even more from a fast reload perk. Maybe a stock option category for all weapons as well.
>>55171325220 grenades, Ultimatum explosion
>>551711213Wow!
>>551715514You think those things are running on good clean burning E-710?
>split between two different invasions >losing both>11k divers are still on the bug frontWhat causes this?
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775243010458912/76561199108851031hd1, d10-15 whatev
>>551720637No one's playing that ancient game unc
>>551720587Christmas. New players are afraid of stuff that shoots back.
>>551720787I ain't no unc bitch ass nigguh KYS
>>551721498>>551720787I hate zoomers so fucking much.
>>551661096It's a liberator that you don't need to as aim well to kill with.
>>551711240you can earn up to 50000 requisition slips, which are just like money but only usable by helldivers for helldiver things!
>>551722984Damages are subtracted from your next of kin martyrdom payment, not your regular paycheckhttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldiver_Contract_of_Employment
>>551721720unc so chopped he can't rizz out a W with the huzz.
>>551720637starting d10 bug
>>551714427
>>551721720shut yo bitch ass up goofy ass nigga
>>551721720what 0 rizz 0 aura does to a mf frfr smdh
Personal retard take:Ergonomics should only be a stat on support weapons. Its existence on primary and secondaries is gay
Are you liking Joel's Driven Narrative Game yet?
Wish the kill feed was accurate so I know when I die to my retard allies calling down a strike on me and can kick their asses
>>551727475>it's yet another episode of "idiot doesn't understand how jeet brigade works"I'm tired of this rerun
>>551727475great idea right after getting an influx of players from the steam sale imo
>>5517206372/4, retaliatory strike
>>551727475>we already have +5 planets right now>even if we lose these two, the next two attacks should be piss-easy to stop, especially with Eagle Storm about to activate>we will still have +3 planets at the end of this, with less than three days left to prevent further losses???
>>551727804>>551728043>niggas missing the point
>>5517206373/4 cyborgs
>Kill watcher>3 more magically appear behind me already aggro'd
>>551732132Grunt fantasy
How to make this perk better:If the player survives for 20 seconds after the revive triggers, then they lose the death debuff (constant bleed-out and zero stamina). However, they can only revive once per Helldiver/reinforcement. Once the revive triggers, red lights activate on the armor as a visual indicator that they won't revive if their HP goes to zero a second time (or alternatively, green lights are activated on the armor by default, and turn off after a revive triggers).
>shoot war strider red eye with railgun>nothing>shoot war strider red eye again with railgun, at same exact spot>it diesReminds me of the old bile titan head bug not taking damage from AT guns
How much hard would the game be if they never added pre stimming
>>551732857People would just run the scorcher and pre-damage 5% of their health like before.
>>551732857>How much harder would the game be if we made it worse?
>>551732778An anon suggested that the different LODs for the War Strider's model have incorrect hitboxes/armor values. I can't confirm it but it does sound believable, doesn't it?
>>551733965>You now realize they fixed factory striders flying around because they couldnt figure out how to code it to fly into the players for epik reddit clips
>>551734104Factory Sliders were too powerful.
>>551707898Could be cool.
luv me tenderizer
Patch Tuesday right?
>>551738675I'm on vacation
Torcher feels way weaker but feels balanced for a primary. But man flame weapons got gutted on bugs. Flamethrower feels fucking shit too now. I know the flame bug is back but it just doesn't feel right.
>>551734741>filename
>>551733965considering it's literally thing they had to fix in the past it's entirely believable
>>551714427>>551724570If you're being out skilled by indians then I'm gonna assume you're not White.
>>551739941I would be fine if D11 was just the same but everything had the detection range of convoy striders (half the map).
The shipmaster just told me I could spend my samples for upgrades at the super destroyer even though I have everything maxed out...Ship module bros... I'm thinking we're back.
500kg x2
Tier 6 modules are gonna make the game so easy that it will be embarrassing. We need harder difficulties.
Had an insane mission where bugs were just pouring in from every angle non stop in a four man. Was fucking cool honestly. Like had to drop everything to keep them back while we progressed and pushed through tides of them.
>>551740554Wow she must be really big if they're both 500kg.Hot .
>>551740554Sweet liberty,my arm
>>551740898Only if there's no funny tentacle mind rapey
>>551740898Shaka, when the walls fell.
>>551741616Tails, his legs spread open.
>>551740391Soon.
>>551733965>it but it does sound believablenot really, it's possible but it'd require a super wacky custom LOD implementation or something that's reading skinned UV for hit registration rather than actual hitboxes (much more plausible). what engine is this again?
>>551741757Fake and gay
>>551741762Bitsquid/Autodesk Stingray. Darktide also uses it.
>>551741932>Obscure Swedish engineSounds scary.
>>551741932it must be great to work with considering they named the worst enemy in the game after it
>be me>play bots solo for a while>finally join a squad>bots now miss ALL of their shots due to latencylmaoI never thought the difference would be so severeJarvis, add it to the list of reasons to not join squads
>>551741762>reading skinned UV for hit registration rather than actual hitboxesIt was created for War of The Roses precisely to allow for easy complex hit registration like hitting people in visors or under armpits and it's LODs accounted for this, as do LODs in other Fatshark games. Helps that they're mostly melee games.I guess Arrowhead just didn't know.
>>551742352lol'd
>>551741616>>551741705Made me spit my drink
Found a bug hole!
>>551741932>Just like PD2 and the Diesel engineSweden is a strange country
>>551742291Honestly it's an understandable mistake if this is the issue. Especially if it works off vert attributes or something. Any automated LOD generation may fuck that up (and I don't blame anyone for trying to steamline that shit) and it'd be easy to overlook.Imagine being these devs and needing to figure out which of the incessant shitting and whining is actually important feedback.
Good or meme?
>>551742007You mean best enemy?
>>551742780Solid all rounder with shit ammo
>>551742920>One ammo box = one roundYeah it really is shit
>>551739893>No reading comp+Izzat
>>551743927If you're not asking for harder difficulties at this point than you must be brown or a literal redditor. Simple as.
>nerf pajeet is awakeAre you ready for another 5 hours of constant seething?
>random bufftroon seetheOh boy! Time for another 10 hours of some retard yelling at clouds.
>>551742780Terrible ammo economy is automatic meme tier even if the weapon itself isn't shit
>>551744192+Izzat
>>551741932Tired of this meme of "outdated obscure engine."1. The devs stayed with it during EOL back during the start of 2018. That's six years before the game released. They had plenty of time to work it out.2. There is no doubt in my mind it's better than unreal engine performance wiseD. A bad craftsman blames his toolsTheta. I hate Sweden
>>551745496IV. Every time they said they "couldn't do it" they hired Nixxes to do it and they did it with no issues (vehicles, mega cities, file size optimization)
>>551745496Its an easy scapegoat for swedes lack of QA
Laziness is inherent to the Swedish character.
>>551738426>>551738742>>551738854>>551738995REEEE THIS IS BULLSHIT AH NERF THIS COCK RIGHT NOW AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>551745890Basically this. I wouldn't be surprised if AH themselves put out this narrative so they had a fallback when they inevitably fucked something up again due to their non-existent version control.>>551745852And 3rd-party studios manage to come in and do bang-up jobs on this engine no one outside of Sweden knows how to use. FRV and squigger launch was 3rd party, a bunch of freelance modelers made who-knows-how-many armor sets, Nixxes ported the game, Nixxes slimmed the game. How the fuck did Arrowhead even plan to support this game if it didn't become wildly successful? Every-fucking-thing is 3rd party.
I've been playing with a lot of randoms recently and i gotta say that reading people and adapting to their playstyle has been a lot of fun for me. Know about the person from seeing their loadout. Know about them from seeing how they move and fight on the map. Know about them from their choice of weapons.
>>551738426>>551738742>>551738854>>551738995
>>551745496>2. There is no doubt in my mind it's better than unreal engine performance wisewhy won't devs go back to id tech 1 so our games can run at 10,000 FPS'>A bad craftsman blames his toolsa developer blames the shitty fucking documentation usually
>>551747459>player 2: doesnt understand the blast radius of an Eagle 500>Player 3: runs around holding an armed orbital at all times >Player 4: Maxxitard
>>551742780Damage wise, worse AMR but it has stagger which makes it in my opinion A tier on bugs because it makes chargers much less of a hassle and it can oneshot most of the smaller bugs with headshot so stalkers/alphas are rendered much less of a threat and you also get small gas AoE. It's a mainstay in my bug loadout.pic unrelated
What's the easiest faction to fight against right now?I'm finding squids to be easier than bugs right now.
>>551751057Squids on d10 are a joke.
>>551751110The whole game is a joke on D10.
>>551751110i dont know but squids make me feel gay when i play against them, so its bots or bugs for me
Man sometimes I flawless the D10, other times I die like 5 times back to back because some factory strider chin turrets keep doming meFeels bad when that happens
>>551751223+Izzat
How to build an effective loadout vs. rupture strain without giving in to the explosives meta?>pic rel, rupture spewers after I went full eruptard
Plasma pistol.
>>551752026minefield everythingplasma punisherstrafing runpick whatever else you want, also speargun makes them pop out of the ground
>>551752026Bring an explosive support weapon instead of an explosive primary
Any primary gun weaker than this is shit.
I'm not a minmax fag but I'm worried that I'm doing something wrong with my build>Light recon armor>Plasma Scorcher>P19 (I only have stock and the Senator otherwise)>Smoke Grenades>Jump Pack>Quasar Cannon>Orbital Laser>Rocket Sentry or 500kg BombAnd I'll take 3 sentries and a pack weapon for defense missionsI primarily lone wolf away from the rest of the team and toss the Laser on annoying shit while clearing easy camps and looking for matsIf things get too hot I toss a smoke at my feet, 180 and jump away.On a scale of 1 to 10 how much of a retard/faggot am I?
>>551755774sounds like you can't afford warbonds
>>551755774New/10. Orbital Laser is a newb trap. You'll grow out of it, and learn to love the orbital barrages.
>>551755774>solofag>laser crutch>smokeAbout eight or nine, my dude. I could feel my blood pressure rising reading your blogpost. When Im hosting, solo fags of your caliber don't respawn, they get kicked.
>>551756363me using the maxigun>I NEED MORE BOOLETS
>>551755932I stopped playing after the PSN shit and only recently (a week) came back, I only have the helldivers and steeled veterans, and I can afford one more warbond.What would you recommend?>>551756162The other Orbs just don't feel as reliable>Toss Laser vaguely towards a base>It clears everything with 0 issues>Toss any other Orb>Whiffs every single shotBut fine, I'll drop down from 10 to around 6~ and give what you recommend a go.>>551756363I don't die, I clear a quarter to half of the map while the rest of my team blunders into every single patrol and procs every swarm, which admittedly is useful when I'm trying to get into a jammer base.I thought the meta was to split the group into at least 2/2, or did the devs change shit in the interim?
>>551756780>I don't dieNTA but of course you don't die because the game is so easy now. Ignore the others getting upset at you. You can play any way you want now because the game requires zero teamwork or coordination now.
>I ignore all the enemies to go play minigamesholy boring
>>551756780They have their uses. You need to upgrade them, first. Until then, Laser is going to be your newb crutch.Precision is for large fabricators, single drop ships, bile titan holes, single fabricators.Gas is for the same, but also for enemy reinforcements, small encampments, bile titan holes, Gatling is for small bot encampments and reinforcements.120 is for medium bot encampments or small drop ship landing zones.380 is for fortressesWalking is for fortresses.Napalm is for enemy reinforcements/extraction, and egg objectives.Airburst is for nothing. Don't bother.None of them are for bug nests.
>*taps sign*
>>551756162People still use it at D10 to clear bases (including Mega Forts) in record time since it instantly blows up Fabs and Warp Ships just by grazing them. So long as you've gotten rid of the big HP sinks like Factory Striders and Fleshmobs and don't spam it in every situation so that you burn through all three uses before the 20-minute mark, it's very good at what it does.>>551755774>>551756780>solo shitterYup, it's terminal. Wear medium armor, and go with your team so you can killmax alongside them. There's no real reason to split up to go for objectives since they can all be finished within the map time limit if you just do some smart pathing. Splitting off every now and then for out-of-reach shit that doesn't need more than one person is fine, but don't make that your entire play style.>I clear a quarter to half of the map while the rest of my team blunders into every single patrol and procs every swarmYeah, that's because they're triggering the reinforcement waves at their location while you exploit it and do the easy shit while it's on cooldown.
>>551757932I wont deny that some lasers thrown at a mega fort wouldn't be ridiculously overkill, but it seems like such a waste of a slot (or two) for a single objective.
Question of the day, anons: Why can't the Swedes do things correctly?
>>551758096The answer to all questions regarding why Arrowhead is so retarded is because they're Swedish.
>>551757932>but don't make that your entire play style.Why?>Yeah, that's because they're triggering the reinforcement waves at their location while you exploit it and do the easy shit while it's on cooldown.Yeah? The that's why I was confused, since the meta back in the day was to split into two teams, one goes and clears objectives whenever the other procs a swarm.
>>551757894>>551629836
>>551758737It's still the meta. Contrarian niggerfaggots of /hdg/ scream when you don't play the same way they do.It'll always be the meta because Autodesk Stingway was never meant for a game like HD2 and is bursting at the seams from Swigger spaghetti code.
>>551758737You're deliberately choosing not to fight and kill the enemy. Why even play the game at all if you're not going to engage with its content? Ignore meta and efficiency, the whole point of playing a video game is to have fun. Blowing up shit and killing hordes of enemies is the best way to do that.Besides which, the game has gotten significantly less bullshit since weapons are actually capable of killing enemies in a timely manner now. You don't need to distract the enemy and play maneuver warfare games, because you can just fucking kill them instead.
>>551759186Don't blame him, retard. The real culprit is the community that cried and cried until all the enemies and any obstacles were nerfed into the ground. Solo faggotry is only possible because redditors, /hdg/, and other faggots made it so.
>>551759386Why is it /hdg/'s fault? All anyone here wanted was for the guns to be better balanced.
I don't believe the notion that Reddit or anybody else is responsible for the removal of the endless reinforcement loops. Given what Pilestedt said in that recent interview, I'm starting to believe it's because they're struggling to keep this broken mess of a game engine from shitting the bed, and there's nothing they can do to fix it.It's like watching a grift in real time. They're contractually obligated to keep the game supported for 'x' amount of years, and they're going to do it even if it means reducing D10 spawn rates to D5 levels before the game dies after the last warbond is dropped.
>>551759591Very dishonest. Most here also want the enemies to be very weak.
>>551759795Guess that means enemies are gonna need to be made very tanky, fast, and deadly then.
>>551760041You must be that jeet everyone talks about.
>>551760153This time next year base Liberator is going to be doing 200 damage per shot, but all enemies will be buffed accordingly. Reddit will clap.
>>551760271The guns will get buffed but the enemies will get nerfed. That has been the balancing strategy for a year and a half now.
>>551760041I wonder if this is just bait or if you're genuinely delusional. Either way it's pathetic
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243051658150/Testing out the "Smoke enhanced walking barrage" on Marfark, 2/4
>>551760173>>551760392>Trying to play dumbIf you're gonna shit up a game with your balancing requests then at least own up to them. Don't be shy.
>>551760809still 2/4, dropping in 5 mins
>>551760369You're baiting. The last gun buffs were accompanied by enemy buffs and even some nerfs were accompanied by enemy buffs. They've been doing this for 18 months now, Sukdeep.
>>551740702that's what difficulty 7 and above used to be
>>551761203wut? AHS has never made an enemy unit stronger than it was before
>>551761236My first D7 was back before D10 was a thing and three Bile Titans converged on extraction all at once.
>>5517608093/4We're dropping, jump in before a pub take your spot!
>>551761203You dishonest piece of trash. The enemy "buffs" was fire resistance and a little bit of extra durability (which is a moot point because of how strong are guns are now). While the warstrider, fleshmob, elevated overseer, and dragon roach were all nerfed into the ground. Stop lying just because you're butthurt about the coyote's "nerf". You lie so much that you must be a shitskin,.no doubt about it.
>"buffs didn't happen!">provide proof buffs did happen>"[Autistic screeching intensifies]"
with the objective perspective of a new player I have ascertained that the worst part of this game is you guys and your terrible posting
>>551762180ok but are you on team buff or team nerf?
>>551762180This generally applies most to /v/ and /vg/, but the site as a whole has gotten a lot worse in the past 5-10 years. The problem is that there aren't many alternatives for niche hobbies and interests that aren't R*ddit.
>>551762180Your opinion don't count for shit yet, newfag.
>>551762362>The problem is that there aren't many alternatives for niche hobbies and interestsThere are, they're just sheltered from people who ruin those hobbies and interests. Invite only, if you would.
>>551762180as a fellow newfag, I agree.
>>551732193It'd be more work to animate and such but it turning you into a shitty zombie would be hilarious>dogshit ergos and sway>movement speed slowed and drifts you left/right>emotes just give a groan sound>inputs for stratagems and at terminals gives you the wrong direction 50% of the time so it's possible but rare to be able to accomplish any of it>throwing range halved and veers off left/right>if you make it to extract as a zombie it counts
>>551762498>>551762180Play in lobbies. I've only played twice with /hdg/ and the people in the lobbies were generally pretty pleasant and fun to be around. /v/ in general has always attracted spergs, though. There's nothing you can do about this.
>>551761357I once counted 13 BTs on a d7don't think you can get even half as many on d10 now
>>551762576Imagine extracting as a zombie and then during the flashy end-of-mission pyrotechnics screen you just come up on the elevator dead on the floor.
>>551762795I think I've seen three of them coming out of a Bile Titan hole once. Just sorta meandering around it in the Mega Nest.HD2 is basically not the hardcore game it started off as. Which is pretty sad because that's where all of it's street cred came from.
>>551762956ikr? quintessential case of a game having its soul amputated and identity brainwashed away for the sake of mass appeal.
>>551761808>Conveniently ignoring the massive enemy nerfsPathetic.
>>551763029The way in which the game was handled in the first two months should have been the harbinger for things to come. >balance by spreadsheet>letting vidya journos dictate your design process>letting your PR engage in twitter drama>the PS5 railgun bug>armor not working
>>551741757I fucking wish half this shit was actually real
>pilestedt doesn't think mech customization is a good thingYeah, because if I had the choice, I'd pick a Patriot with two miniguns + strat launcher, and probably so would everyone else.
>>551764578jesus...
Leaving the lobby is more preferable than getting reinforced.
>>551764578I want to pull that thong on the side and SUBMERGE my nose between them ass cheeks and take a deep breath
I'll let you know, Super Earth is killing these hoes by the BILLIONS!
>>551741705
kill yourself
>Another month without content left>Last content was only available for a week Live service done right
