Luna Edition>NewsGone Nutty for Gifts Event Pass: https://x.com/i/status/2001321617889354199Jeff's Winter Splash Festival: https://youtu.be/2DEpKcigA30Season 6: Night at the Museum Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/Aj53c2UxrtcVersion 20251212 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20251209/41667_1275551.htmlSeeds of the Gardener Event Pass: https://x.com/i/status/1998792449154809968Rogue Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/-_CwYQQP21QDev Vision Vol. 12: https://youtu.be/abvLlSjm2-0Season 5 Battle Pass: Grand Garden Adventure: https://youtu.be/0EEYlg99xUkSeason 5: Love is a Battlefield Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/hXOUHb6416>StoreStar-Lord's Starcracker, Peni Parker's Snow-SP//dr, and Daredevil's Not Daredevil skins: https://x.com/i/status/2000974432089542971Rogue's Savage South and Rocket Raccoon's Rocket of the Rafters skins: https://x.com/i/status/1998475280659182007Luna Snow's Cherry Delight skin: https://x.com/i/status/1995893222057406562Blade's Restful Recovery and Venom's Gummy Surprise skins: https://x.com/i/status/1993379313408729526Doctor Strange's Bleeker Street Strut and Magik's New Millenia Might skins: https://x.com/i/status/1990502768352600107Gambit's Thieves Guildmaster skin: https://x.com/i/status/1988369897219387549Magneto's Temporal Tyrant skin: https://x.com/i/status/1988388771369304085Wolverine's Dog Brother X skin: https://x.com/i/status/1985738811167440934>LinksHero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.comMobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivalsFANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/Checkpoint: >>551561158
Bucky.
Galatca is the cutest gal (Fact)
Gooning to Venom
You can really tell when some retarded monkey who only plays duelists pipes up, we have one having a multi hour long meltie
I love Luna
how was your day /mrg/?
Sex with vanguards
There is literally nothing wrong with going 8-18 on Magik and it is the rest of the team's fault for not enabling me i mean her
>>551676349This but unironically.
Is it true that there's a Hulk rework?
>>551676010Natasha is so lucky…>>551676054Franklin is so lucky…>>551676180Psy is so lucky…>>551676197>>551676253Johnny is so lucky…
Psylocke’s game
That’s right Doom, take that long dong johnson Gallifreyan cock deep in your metal covered sissy asshole. Kang you sissy faggot you can get it too know your fucking place bitch.#QUINTESSENTIAL OWNAGE
>>551676054G is for: Greatest in all the cosmos!A is for: Awesomest announcer in the multiverse!L is for: Loveliest of ladies!A is for: Aspiring everyone to be their best selves!C is for: Cosmic cutie without competition!T is for: Terrific! Tenacious! Tremendous! Titanic!A is for: Amazing! (always!)Galacta!
>>551676349You didn't lose because of the magik, you lost because you and your 4 other players played like ass.
>>551677992Magikbro....
>>551675861Waiting to queue up with a friend but their comp match has nearly gone on for half an hour.>>551671996Stop solo queueing and find dps mains that are reliable and know when to switch. As a Hulk main that's all you can do.P.S. The performance of Duelists and Strategist's players has the biggest impact on the outcome of a match and it's not even close.
>>551677218Correct.
>>551676874Oh right I forgot you guys just goon here and complain about dive instead of talking about or playing the game. I'll go find out elsewhere
>>551678118Which of these players here >>551671996 played like gods on the Magik's team. Where are these 5 gods with godlike stats that ONLY lost because of the Magik? They did absolutely nothing wrong and no one could've played better than them, right? It's was a team of 6 shitters that all lost because they suck, mystery solved.
>>551678380Did they make an in-game announcement?No?So how the hell would I know?
>>551678528Wow progress you're finally admitting that you were shit on your Magik too
>>551679671Were you the Emma crying about how there was nothing you could've done to win?
>>551678528>Loki >9 deaths>0 final hitslmao
Getting tired of this duelist apologist faggot
>>551679786No, just laughing at you trying to defend your 18 deaths with "b-b-but I got 7 kills tho" (every single one was a trade and I went on to die accomplishing nothing twice as much)
>anons pretending to find one another in ranked queue of all thingsLol
>>551671996Stop playing ranked or learn more than just Magik. Swear to fuck how do you fuckers not learn a couple characters from each role set at least? I know I am no the only one here with multiple lords across different roles because I couldn't imagine boring my self to absolute fuck maining only ONE character in this massive fucking roster, it is actually psychotic.Need the ball and gun gamers to try to start form thoughts or realize that role queue is the only solution in the long run along with rebalancing certain supports to be able to 2 person heal successfully without much thinking.
>top 10 on ranked are all strategist mains>Top 50 is like 90% strategists>Strategists are banned/protected 10/12 times in pro play>But strategist players will routinely tell you they're not op, need more buffs, divers need more nerfs, and everything that happens is someone else's faultThis is what happens when you cater to strategist players.
>duelist shitters running a cope campaign about how a 8-18 Magik is not a massive burden on the team and totally not a major contributor to the loss
Rockets tiny rocket
Soon
>>551681134>18 deathswhere were the supports?
>>551680676In fairness a lot of the characters really do just kinda suck but yeah there’s at least one in each role you should take a liking to
Is there an actually active /vg/ Faction? I'm in Peni Pits and I think the other people havent been on in months
>>551678175>black nail polishBut why
If it wasn't a Magik, it would have been a Reed or Spider-Man.>>551682449I don't think so, we've not reached the point where we have a discord or something similar yet because we all hate each other quite a bit here already.
Can't even get myself to flame 8-18 Magik in team chat, just avoid as teammate and seethe queue on to the next loss
Magik is a good girl and does her best
>>551682971I wouldn't yell at them, clearly they got more problems on their plate than me already.
>anons here complain constantly about retards refusing to swap off melee against flyers>for some reason this precious fucking 8-18 Magik refusing to swap against Iron Man and Mr. Fent did nothing wrong and must be protected at all costs
So it seems I can get a shitload of skins by registering my university email with China. What exactly to they gain with this?
>>551683754Almost like every time we try to have a discussion about the balance and future of the game every ball & gun gamer in the thread feels personally attacked.>>551683862A brighter future, you are already in the Chinese Century.
>>551682715I cannot stress enough how much I hate this image.
say please and you might get heals
>>551684238TANDY'S IN TROUBLE
>>551683754Hey retard, if you havent realized it yet, every general for every online competitive game has a few people who will turn any situation into being your fault in order to ragebait you, stop caring so much they are not being sincere
>>551684571I'm just here for waifus
>>551684238>Cloak healsI'm good, thanks for asking though
>>551684571Even if they add the evolution outfit it will not look good on Rivals Rogue's bulky, man jawed model
>>551684238No thanks ill go to gambit for real healing
>>551684967same with Emma and a model that actually gives her long hair
>>551684852Um, Anon, that's Dagger....... Cloak is the black guy...
>>551682449Not at all, like >>551682715 says were way too fractious to come together like that>>551683985No sir we are in the Chinese humiliation part 2
>>551683754you'll start winning more when you stop expecting your team to fill in the gapsyou're just another retard losing a game and the only thing you can do is look at the worst performing person in the team and blame the entire loss on them, there's 4 other niggers there, and you have full control over the 5th nigger
>>551684970this but Sue
>>551684967I mean in fairness Evolution Rogue also had a freaky man jaw so it’s pretty accurate
answer me this bros...why can't i just cum inside galacta?
I’m usually a good sport but every time I win against triple sup I shit talk regardless of how close the match was
>>551684967You don't know what a manjaw is. But if you wanna stretch it and call her jaw a "manjaw", she had a bit of a "manjaw" in xmen evolution to begin withlook it upI think you're genuinely misremembering how she looked in that show
>>551685206>says were way too fractious to come together like thatAlso there is like 2-3 actual psychos here who would shit up any server immediately because they actually cannot help themselves, they are physically compelled. Too much of a risk even if the rest of thread is normal, not worth the time to weed them out.
>>551685812It's not worth arguing with brainlets who would have called Geena Davis a troon in the 80s.
>>551685140You can't expect me to know the difference cloak and dagger look the same
>>551678380SEETHING LOL
>>551685265You still haven't shown your match dying twice as much as you get KOs still winning, anon... didn't you say it doesn't matter if dps feed like mad?
>>551686030Idk about troon but that is definitely not a flattering image of that person
>>551685553Because she’s Franklin property, dumbass >>551685265Based wife
I'm done with Rivals bros, I'm going to go enjoy a real game like Rainbow Six
>>551686401:skull:
>>551686401
>>551686401Yeah Siege is a lot more generous than Rivals. Just recently they gave every player 300 million free siegebucks or whatever the fuck they call them
Stuart Storm is so cute, bros...
>>551686213that was my first post since 2 threads, maybe go tell the class how any of the 3 vangaurds counters iron man or why the thing has 30k damageyou're the only constant retard
my wife's game
Is it still true you can climb ranked with a negative winrate?
As a flex player I can confidently tell you that:>vanguardThese players are most normal of the 3 roles but some act high and mighty because vanguard is the least popular and therefore the most sought after, are often pressured into playing Mag or lose the match because they're solo tanking.A combination of a good one and a healer aware of that often solo (or duo) carry.>strategistThese players usually just get the job done and are nothing special, they have a higher frequency of entitlement and carried metaslaves who don't seem to actually enjoy the role but are more interested in the abusing the meta picks rather than pick supports they enjoy.>duelistBy far the most volatile group of players with the biggest mix, ranging from smurfs, turbo casuals, teens picking their favorite hero Spiderman, actual FPS players who carry, wannabe carries.There's about a ~30% chance you get one that actually carries, the other 70% think they are that 30% of carries, sometimes you get some that are willing to switch to a different role because the 3 duelist shit comp is not working.Highest chance of not switching when their pick is clearly not working.Many have main character syndrome and don't realize it's a team game.
Sue culoSue anusSue anal
>>551686921>but some act highSorry I just really like playing the game stoned.
>play venom: enemies ignore me>play cap: enemies getting healed ignore me>play thing: enemies respect and fear meI thought he was supposed to be the weakest tank.
>>551686921Rivals pretty much mirrors what roles are like in mmos that the trinity are modeled after. There are always 10,000 mid ass rogues for every cleric/fighter so the good clerics and fighters get snapped up by guilds/climb up ranked quickly and you get left with flexing shitters
>TTV in the name>they aren't streaming
>>551686675made for breeding shuri’s big black booty
>>551687587thank god, their viewers wont laugh at my awful gameplay then
>>551687625Nah man they are both getting bred by me.
>Keep losing cause I get put on QUAD DPS teams >in fucking grandmaster rankedAbsolutely insane, they aren't even subtle about how rigged the matchmaking is
>>551687010built for babymaking
Jeff
>>551688265We need role queue to save the game from dps retards
>6 wins yesterday>8 losses todayI'm sorry GaungGuang. I wasn't humble. Thank you.
>No Day One player nameplatethey need to respect the OGs
>>551689303so glad you see da light gweilo!!!
They should buff Adam, my suggestion: when he uses his ultimate it creates a big circular zone around the golden cocoon thing where his whole team is invincible
>>551687780I once watched myself in someone's streamsI played like a retard
i need him (female)
>>551689917Just give him meter based flight.
>>551690098HEL UNLEASHED
>>551685812Doesn't she literally have a butt chin?>>551686887Maybe as Support but as a Hulk main ain't no way I can envision climbing with a negative win rate.>>551688265>He thought the shitty habits of the playerbase disappear once you get to high rank.
Anyone got that SW pic where she's holding her very massive breasts with one arm? And the one where her areolas are peeking out?
>>551690098>Female Loki won't have cleavageWasted opportunity
>>551690239NOOOOO! DON'T DO THIS! HELL LEASHED! LOL
>>551689917That would be extremely bullshit
>>551690450Hela you mean
>>551657861the PTSD is settling in
>>551690450That’s Hela
>>551690660>>551690739>>551690239You will eat your words in 2 days
anyone can tell whether this is legitimate aiming or is it somehow enhanced? watching this vid it felt off from time to time, like the type where a player is "fighting the aimlock" with many small movements in very weird directions, from 17:30 on the widow kill, looks so odd when slowed as wellhttps://youtu.be/cnm_A1qoPn0?t=1050I still have ptsd from the cheating vtuber who usually played Hela, never played comp, landed multiple direct headshots on spiderman just jumping around all while making fun of everyone calling them out on cheats on the daily
>Blocklist fullWell that only took a little over a year
>>551691679>I still have ptsd from the cheating vtuber who usually played Hela,along the same lines, I was in QP and there was a hela that was mega carrying the team, but I felt like dude had to be cheating someway, and I usually don't come to that conclusion. Watching the killcam it looked like his reticle was snapping to heads in addition to him knowing where we were going to be.
>>551691679The psy? Looks 100% legitimate to me
>>551691679I'm sorry but by the thumbnail alone I can tell this mf has FAS and will probably be really annoying to listen to.
>>551691679Didn't look that fishy to me, anon. Though I play a lot of Fortnite where people don't even pretend to not cheat in terms of not making it obvious.
>>551690739>noooo its not fair why can't I killl a Jeff who's being double pocketed by rolling my face on the keyboard
>>551692437I hate gaming nowadays, on one side there's people trying to pass as good gamers by heavily tweaking their cheats to only softlock each 3rd hit etc, and then there's cheating like fortnite and cs2 where the anti cheat doesn't even exist and they just act retarded while clicking heads through walls
>>551690739>NOOOO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO 1V3 WITH A HERO WHO CAN'T MISS AND THUS CAN'T HEADSHOT
How do i get better at this game? Im a low gm peaker in league and my buddy is a Eternity player, we made a deal that we would learn eachother's games. Im not much of a shooter player so my aim is horrendous, made it to p1 playing gambit and venom, but its starting to lose efficacy.I was told to expand my role and character pool and here is what i have so far of character i think are good and that i have interest in playing.
I think if you pick DPS 10 games in a row you should be put on a cool down for 5 games.It's really not fair I flex tank/support for hundreds of games and the couple of times I want to play DPS faggots force triple/quad and dont let up at all
>>551691406You will eat Hela in two days
Do tankfags and supportrannies have any personality beyond seething over DPS players? Tanks are always complaining about how nobody picks their role but also constantly bitch about how tanking sucks and is too team-reliant. Supports bitch about everything (probably due to HRT-induced hormonal imbalances) even though they’re the strongest class in the game and constantly pandered to by the devs.
>>551680010>No, just laughing at you trying to defend your 18 deathsNo retard, I'm saying one bad dps doesn't make you lose a match single handedly. This is 100% correct. None of the other players ha even remotely decent stats, so very clearly none of them were good so singling out Magik as "the reason the team lost" is utterly retarded and delusional. Even more so when the Emma player said that the Iron Man was shitting on them and 'no one did anything about it', yet didn't even have the mental awareness to swap to something that could for even just a few minutes.The way you want to deflect any and all blame from the team makes it very fucking likely you're one of those players, probably the Emma one, STILL trying to deflect that they did nothing wrong and couldn't have played better.It's like holy fuck, is this your first MP game? You will frequently have at least 1 or 2 shitters on your team but that isn't the end of the world if the rest of the team is decent or if YOU are actually good. Especially when there aren't any snowball effects like in MOBAs where the player that dies gives up XP and gold.Dumb fucks like you would win gold medals in the speicial Olympics.
>>551693315The only way to be dps in this game is to be completely self centered and accept that sometimes you're just going to lose because the spider man and Magik will never, ever swap
>>551694004>Magik is still trying to convince people it wasn't his faultSad
>>551690739The chinks design tanks in a way to avoid GOATS yet dont do that for the Support part of that comp which is the actual problem
>>551690739This shit cracks me, Jeffchads remain unbothered.
>>551693315>I think if you pick DPS 10 games in a row you should be put on a cool down for 5 games.>It's really not fair I flex tank/supportI used to play exclusively strategist and vanguard S0 to S2, but then I wisened up and realized boring myself to tears playing vanguard and strategist was dumb when you play games to have fun. So since then I only played DPS and never ever flex or swap.If you want to to picks vanguard/strategist again, blame Zhiyong for making the heroes and those roles so boring and brainless.
>>551693315The truth is that this system only works because there are suckers like you who are willing to flex. If you want to play DPS, you have to pray there are other willing to switch
>>551694004You still haven't posted a winning 8-18 dps match for me anon
>>551694228>deflects from the pointSo you are the Emma. Stay shit then. You deserve all the losses you get as the EOMM agent you are. But your team doesn't, so preferably uninstall so you don't drag your team down with you.
I will ALWAYS blame the person that picks a third DPS for the loss
>>551694585>posts any single game where someone dc'd and the team was good enough to win regardlesswow!
>>551694585What do you think my point is. I'm extending an olive branch to you in good faith now.
>>551694930That you peaked Shit 2
>>551694468>Jeffchads remain unbothered.Jeffchvds
so why does hela just get wall hack for her ult exactly?
>>551693141the game is a lot of dealing with bad teammate composition and making the best out of what you roll compared to the enemy teamset up your strike squad to be able to counter the enemy teams best carrydo that enough and you'll be better than 99% of the playerbaseespecially if you avoid ever locking in shit tiers like scarlet witch, squirrel girl, cloak and dagger, iron man, black panther, and spiderman
is Blade good?
>>551695267Nevermind then, you decided to behave like a mentally handicapped fucktard. Sorry for assuming you were a rational adult, it won't happen again.
marrying Sai and retiring together
>>551690259>Doesn't she literally have a butt chin?yesthese zoomer faggots would call this a manjaw and would call her a tranny if this were released in current year
>>551696418>dbs spic
Anyone else really hoping for a Vision and Quicksilver season? What's the best way to showcase Vision's density and phasing abilities?
this game is so good I hopped back on Halo for the first time in 14 years
>>551696604>cleft chinKEK
>>551696229Good luck getting your useless ass carried to Silver Magikbro
>>551696995Quicksilver is the most anticipated character now that Rogues in the game, well aside from Thanos, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, and Mystiquehow the hell theyre gonna work a speedster and not make him absurdly broken is gonna be interestingas long as they dont spiderman balance him so he is dogshit and high skill floor
Its funny how we call Dagger ''Cloak''
>>551697549Nobody cares about the nog he might as well not exist to me
>>551694736I mean yeah why wouldn’t you do that>>551696604That’s ugly as fuck holy Christ someone get the chisel to shave it down LMAOOOOO
>>551697549black and cracker
>>551697206Based. It better be 1, 2, 3 or 4
>worst player in the match>check profile>they're a strategist mainEvery time.
The fact that 2-2-2 can't beat triple support and you have to mirror is stupid
>>551697435>mystique>quicksilver>”most anticipated” delusional tard award
>>551690739Supportsissies would never do this for a tankbro.
>>551697435>Quicksilver is the most anticipated character nowNot so fast
>>551690739>yeah>im>unkillable>blud>yeah>aura
>its another 8-18 Spoderman refuses to swap episode
>>551699223Spiderburden is undefeated
>pick jean>someone else instapicks widowHate this rerun.
>>551698420most anticipated as in were interested in how they'll implement their kitsmost other characters have very basic powers that wont have anything interesting to them like Phoenix did
Every time I spectate a Squirrel Girl, I am filled with contempt for the character.
>>551694468Why the fuck do jeff and emma not have a team-up already?
Quicksilver would probably have an ult, that slows bullets and heroes to a halt that are near him. That’s probably the best way to sell his speed, and keep his hero fantasy.
>>551700432Diamond Jeff
>>551699223It's another dps tries to shit talk the solo tank about their kda episode
>>551699223based, pointfags still weeping about this
>>551697435>>551700585Look its not hard, and we don't need to resort to unimaginative slow motion.>Quicksilver's base speed is either Cap's sprint or higher>To illustrate insane "blink and you'll miss him" speed, Quicksilver's abilities allow him to run to a targeted point and return to place of origin in an almost instant>Example: Quicksilver can heal allies by zipping to their target location, run around them like a cyclone, then return to where he started. Quicksilver can also do this with another ability, but instead "kidnap" an ally and bring them back to his place of origin >Balance is not only cooldowns, but also the player being mindful of where they are starting and where they are going. Real nightmare if there are mines or other hazards.
>>551700585it would just be psylocke's ult with an absorb bullet mechanic like mag
>>551690739>/mrg/>"no healing isn't crazy high, it's the damage that is out of control!"I can guarantee 100% it's support tards defending the healing in this game.
>>551700585>>551701003The fact that you're expecting anything interesting and well designed while Zingdong is in charge is hilarious.
>>551701058while you're not wrong he's also being focus healed and DD should've fucked off back to his team and tried flanking again
>>551701003thats pretty coolI'd like to see it in game though which is what I mean by how much anticipation for that kit isif his ult does a movie quicksilver scene where everything in the world timestops slomo that could be cool even if its crazy brokenblinks, high base MS, there is a TON they could do with a speedsters kitmeanwhile you guys have Cyclops as an anticipated character and the guy is just another beam character WOW
>>551698352>2-2-2 can't beat triple supportholy retard
>>551701329>meanwhile you guys have Cyclops as an anticipated characterI'm only anticipated for him because Jean is my duelist main and the teamup will probably benefit her.
>>551701281>ultron drone and rocket>focus healedA single M1 healer like Luna, Gambit or Invis heals more than them combined. There is no excuse. If someone is being focused they should be pressured to back off unless they're a Vanguard, but that doesn't happen in this game.
>>551701003>>Quicksilver's base speed is either Cap's sprint or higherStopped reading there. That’s already a headache to deal with if he knows what he’s doing. What you’re describing is pure video game aids. >Quicksilver can heal alliesThis is pretty likely given their track record though I’ll admit that much.
>>551702151
>>551702261
>>551702165The difference is Quicksilver wouldn't have that high of a healthbar like Cap. Also you can shoot Cap even at that speed. Hell Rocket is pretty fucking mobile on a wall, and his hitbox is much smaller too
>>551701058>strategist player>my healing is too low>my healing ult isn't strong enough>i need more and better dashes>i need more and easier to land cc>i need to deal dps damage>i need to be able to heal myself more than enemies can damage me>if i die in spite of all this, it's not my fault
>>551701996jean usually benefits when that boring wet sock isn’t around funny enough
>>551702367
>>551702068>Lower healing across the board>Vanguards innately receive more healing so healing them is more or less equivalent to the healing they received nowThat might work
>>551702367Somebody's pushing for more Elsa and I'm loving every minute of it
>>551698165I hate 4mostly been playing 2 and 3 but every now and again it throws me into the remaster
>>551702367this Wanda looks like perfection incarnate
>>551701058>NOOOO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO 1V3 WITH A CHARACTER WHO CAN'T FUCKING MISS USING A STANDARD BREAD AND BUTTERFuck right off, you want to beat 2 people either play a hero that needs to aim or bring 2 people
>>551699223Spiderbro is having fun while you are here seething
>>551698683tank bros are like the irish, they think they're a part of the WASP/support club because they do the dirty work but don't realize they're just getting called nigger behind their back
>>551702942Gurihiru just doesn't miss
>>551702068>A single M1 healer like Luna, Gambit or Invis heals more than them combinedRocket heals for 110 per second just with the direct hits, they're not.
>>551703046I too have tons of fun staring at the respawn screen
>>551703041>a player doing nothing is immortal against a dps>half the roster does more healing than in the video on their own>a single healer can make a stationary afk player immortal against up to 3 players at once>some how, for some reason, the healing isn't high and this is okNo other games has done this or is doing this except Rivals. No one, except the worst players in the game (strategist players) defend the absurd healing.
>>551701058The support tards are still dog piling this post. Christ they're a fucking mafia I swear. There's no fucking universe that you should be able to stand still and the other guy loses. Yet these niggers are still vehemently defending it because they hate divers THAT much.
Tanks need to get their damage increased across the board too, supports finally started getting played now that they have kill potential
>>551703543>Rocket heals for 110 per second just with the direct hits, they're not.I suggest you don't open your mouth again until you fact check. How much does Sue heal per second with her M1? Do you know?
>>551703653>>a player doing nothing is immortal against a dps>>a single healer can make a stationary afk player immortal against up to 3 players at onceIts TWO healers who are healing him a combined 150+ hp per secondNo, your no aim having ass should not be able to invalidate that solo. Play a fucking hero who can headshot or bring friends, you don't get to just ignore literally half the game because you think your entitled to a kill for mashing your face on top of someone.
>>551702913I mostly liked 4 for the Flood infected mood. So fun. The Forerunners always need to be in the spotlight for me though
>>551703836150/swhich is less than or equal to rocket heal+ultron heal at the same time>110/s from directs>55/s from orb aura because they're bouncing on top of him>35/s for ultron bot
>>551701996>Cyke gets added>team-up with Logan and Emma instead
>meanwhile it's perfectly fine that a single DD survives for 30+ seconds in a 1v3 because he generates three characters worth of overhealth by just mashing his face on the keyboard
this was the game that i had the most fun playing today
>>551703758>Christ they're a fucking mafia I swearDishonest low IQ tourist streamers bitch and moan about supports and healing since season 0 because... they can prevent deaths and the game being an offensive ult quickdrawThankfully our good friends in China know better than these career whiners and stay the course in letting supports actually be able to fight back against retarded duelist nogs "diving" 1v6.
>>551703856>Its TWO healers who are healing him a combined 150+ hp per secondAnd I told you several M1 healers in this game heal more than that on their own.A Cap and Scarlet cannot kill a target being healed by Sue.A Squirrel Girl landing non stop direct hits cannot kill someone being healed by Gambit's M1.Hulk, Thing and Reed could not kill a stationary Jeff healed by Luna with Share the stage.Can you explain how exactly this is good and healthy for the game? Can you explain away the massive problem of this making both players being healed and healers play like absolute retards and just standing out in the open soaking damage non-stop because they can because of the insane healing?
>>551703653>No other games has done thisThen you've never played other hero shooters because literally all of them except gundam evo allow healers to outheal the DPS of melee faggots who cannot outright one shot or aren't popping ultimateRivals is actually the only game where faggots who don't have to aim bitch about not being able to freely ignore the game's mechanics
Playing dive is literally throwing, this is a pokeGOD game
>>551704727>characters with low damage or bad burst can't kill characters being pocket healedDamn... maybe they should ask their 5 teammates for help in this TEAM gameThe way you "people" present your bullshit scenarios makes it seem like you can't kill anything in this game
>>551704097>150/sWrong, you massive retard. I fucking hate how retarded /mrg/ is and don't even know the most basic shit while constantly opening their dumb ignorant fucking mouths when they don't know wtf they're talking about.Sue heals for>43 x (1,15) + 35 x (1,15) from a single m1 = 92 hp>her fire rate is 2 m1 shots per second>//total = 184 hp per secondWhich is not fucking 150 you fucking shitsnorting ape.
>>551704727>And I told you several M1 healers in this game heal more than that on their ownand you're wrongInvis heals 160/s, luna 140, and gambit 170 IF he lands all 3 cards, the latter two of which can be body blocked. Of the 3 only gambit can possibly heal more than rocket and ultron's combined healing>my no aim heroes who have no ammo requirement can't beat out someone who has to reload>my AoE damage dealer can't out DPS a single target on a shotgun healer with 7 shots>3 melee's who literally cannot miss if they wanted to can't beat out someone who's shots they can body block to stop the healingMaybe you should apply the heroes that actually work for the situation
I would drop this game if any of the other hero shooters were in third person.I want to see my characters and cosmetics I bought for them.
>>551704758>Then you've never played other hero shooters because literally all of them except gundam evo allow healers to outheal the DPS of melee faggots who cannot outright one shot or aren't popping ultimateMR has twice the healing output than other hero shooters. It also predominantly has M1 healers, which has no cooldown or resources, so there is pretty much no downtime. They also all have big healing ults.Other hero shooters also have the dps higher compariatively speaking, so you can't make the fallacy of MR having "such high damage". In fact, damage is relatively low for most heroes in this game.
>the m1schizo is melting down again because he went 8-18 on his spoderman
>>551705226Oh no, i forgot a measly team up bonus that's bugged half the time anywaysSTILL LESS THAN THE PAIR
>>551705036You didn't refute anything or answer any questions. Which means you know you're wrong and you conceded. Good.
>>551704758A very large part of the playerbase are unironic low IQ duelist mains who want the game to just let them steamroll 1v6 if they pick a duelist.They have zero understanding of the genre and the balance of the tank-healer-dps trinity in hero shootersRivals is balanced by the fact that every role is strong, with vanguard being the weakest and duelists being the strongestEnemies must die for the game to not be an endless stalemate but healers need to be good enough to quickly recover a teammate's health so the entire game doesn't just hinge on duelists, also to allow tanks to actually function.
when are they gonna add Jesus?
>>551705243see >>551705226NEVER post in this general ever again, ignoramus. Living trashcans like you need to be lobotomized.>>551705652Kill yourself, you ignorant retard. If you don't know what you're talking about you're not qualified for basic discussion. Even if you weren't an irrational narrow-minded donkey incapable of basic conversation.
>>551705652>184 is less than 150Your mom called, you're late for grade school math course.
>it's the retard who uses pure damage/healing per secondThe game rarely ever follows those conditions because the application of those numbers only exists in a vacuum or niche situations
>>551705847Soon, considering the mutie bias.
>>551705524>Other hero shooters also have the dps higher compariatively speakingOverwatch certainly doesn't. Every direct comparison has lower DPS than their rivals counterpart unless you want to try to factor in built in anti-heal but the healers are equally disgusting in utility if not raw HP/s>>551706053>110+55+35=150?
>>551705698>A very large part of the playerbase are unironic low IQ duelist mains who want the game to just let them steamroll 1v6 if they pick a duelist.Ironic, it's delusional strategist mains which think the world should revolve around them >>551702435
>it's the retard who vagueposts
>>551706226>actually it's my strawmanK, last (You) you get from me
>>551705847Never, he would instantly win all battles.
>>551705893Nice argument faggotdaredevil should just make people instantly fall dead when he touches them, god forbid that a high mobility burst damage assassin who survives like a brawler can distract 3 players for ten seconds straight, he should actually just be able to kill all of them because he can press 2 buttons in their general direction
>>551705847when did Starlord put a gun to Spideys head??is that Infinity War?
This duelist is having a mental health crisis lol
Supportsissies are not taking this well...
>>551706532https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQoNILVFFvs
>>551706671Only thing we can take is our HRT pills.
>>551706225>Overwatch certainly doesn'tIt does. Please don't open your mouth when you base this on nothing but your bad emotional memory, gut feeling and bullshit. I really don't feel like making a long post breaking down the math of both games only for you to make a shitpost reply because you can't handle being wrong. So I'll summarize.Average m1 healing in Overwatch is around 80 hp/s, this is considered pretty high in that game. Average hero health is around 25hp less than in Rivals. Even Lucio deals 80 dmg/s, dps heroes like Freja shoot for almost 150 dmg/s if we're not counting headshots which is roughly where most dps heroes in that game deals in terms of damage. Even tanks deal more damage than healing, like Rein does 100 dmg/s or Zarya with no bonus damage does 95 dmg/s (190 at max energy).Marvel Rivals factually has way wayyyy higher healing than other hero shooters, more m1 healers which means less downtime and healing lulls by far and all of the MR healers have healing ults. Meanwhile damage is generally lower in MR than in other hero shooters.If you don't accept this you're simply in denial. It's one thing to (for some reason) like how it is in MR, but denying reality is unhealthy.
>>551706373Ah yes, strategist players are blameless, best players in the game, never blame anyone else when they die and all that jazz. I forgot.>>551706472Someone being attacked by one or more dps heroes or just multiple heroes in general should be taking damage enough to eventually be forced to back off, this doesn't happn in Rivals. This make
>>551706472>>551707403*This makes players play even worse in this game since they just stand out in the open and soak damage like idiots.The instant a team doesn't have strong m1 healers they instantly play better, because they can't just stand in the open and soak damage infinitely like clowns.
>>551707268You're wrong.
big ups to those flex players, but that ain't me big dawg. ggs tho.
>>551707540Oh, you're an Adam main?
>>551707681Try that approach in court or during a job interview, that's sure to work.
I'm about to spend the next few hours learning to play Mantis and my aim is trash.
>>551701003>lets take the perma pissed guy whose power is to run really fast and make him a faggy ass healerAny other place would have mocked how they made shit like Rocket and Ultron healers, but here we have fags that want to turn anyone into them.Strategist shouldn't mean healers.
>>551707909so youre a typical support player except youre taking the time to improve
>>551707804What is it with /mrg/ and having the most mentally handicapped posters on this site that resort to deflecting and fallacies every single time they're confronted with something they can't prove wrong.
I used to peel for strategists, but stopped since I realized they need to git gud and not be coddled.
>>551708017You just said non-m1 healers make teams play better, so clearly you play Adam or Mantis exclusively, right?
>>551708215Exactly, its good that strategists have the tools to actually fight back against divetroons alone now
>>551707268>It doesIt does not. Pharah is 150 dps assuming every direct hit Iron man is 130 but with more ammo, faster interval and a 140dps laser.Soldier 76 is 171 dpsPunisher is 200dps with a worse fall offMilk fridge Marauder has 140 dps with six shotsBucky is 188 with 3 shots and built in reloadsAshe is 114 dpsHela is 140If you're trying to argue that the whole team has more damage together as a whole that's a different story because there are few direct comparisons between OW tanks and Rivals tanks but even then the few that exist still favor rivals, magneto deals sizably more DPS (100 with just m1s) than someone like sigma when accounting for iron volley and, additionally, has a sixth dude contributing even more damage. And some OW healers may do good damage (not that people don't bitch about gambit doing damage) but a lot of them are also complete healbots that have to choose between shooting people or healing. The damage is higher in rivals. The healing is also significantly higher but given the map design and higher DPS some of that is necessary because when 5 people suddenly manage to focus fire on one dude that dude fucking melts if he doesn't have cover to hug.
I bullied a diamond 3 player in quickplay to the point they spent the rest of the day messing around on the new jeff map.
I've been seeing a lot more Storms lately when I thought they mostly died out with flying meta, do the Storms know something I don't?
>>551707810>Try that approach in court or during a job interview, that's sure to workLolcow territory post
>diamond 3>meet an annoying ass kid in qpKnow what? I'm gonna have fun in Jeff Land instead.
>>551708215>still no Thanos>or Doom
Despite 3dps statistically being played more than triple the amount of games, 90% of the whining is about 3support
>>551707936Healers are called "strategists" because they need to know when to be on the offensive, and recognize who is the most important team member to prioritize given the moment. It has nothing to do with powers
>>551707268>this retard talking up OW dps when it is the WORST role in terms of power comparability to MRthe only ones who are good in OW compared to their MR counterparts are widow to widow on account of headshot oneshots and that game just not balancing her, scarlet witch to moira because shes a support and this more valuable to have low skill players crutch on, and junkrat to SG cause her ult is dogshit compared to whats available in the dps rosterbeyond that character for character DPS have better more effective neutral games, significantly stronger ults, and more playmaking and carry potential just for being a MR character just look at>Star-Lord to Tracerlord having a god tier ult, team up that gives him the rewind, his jumps have I frames, reload his gun, AND give him bonus health, and he can fucking FLY>Mccree to Helagood god this difference is insane, just about every single part of her kit is better than mccrees save for his ROLL of all things>punisher to soldier69closest comparison here but Punisher has a shotgun and isnt JUST a rifle guy>Pharah to Iron Mantrue flight vs floating around and the lazer make the kit better, its just that DPS are better in rivals so being a flyer is actually a disadvantage compared to OW where you can just be in the are and feel safe cause dps arent a threat>Psylocke to Genjithis ones insane when you realize Genji needs an Ana ult to ever feel like a threat meanwhile Psy has been a top tier pick since day 1 and has only gotten stronger with absurd buffsas a DPS main that game has absolutely the least amount of agency compared to Rivals where you have the most carry potentialOW dps characters are nerfed just by existing in that shit game
>DPS DC's at the start of the game>Doesn't reconnect until the enemy team is already 50 points in at cap>constantly flips-flops between third DPS and tank when we really just need a second tank>doesn't switch back to tank until we're literally about to lose.>A7medI hate DPS players so fucking much, man.
>>551709638Because streamers and bad players main duelists
>>551706379>>551707981Kek’d>>551708215Most of them need to learn proper positioning more than anything honestly
>>551709867>not one but two sandman names>on dps no less>on fucking spidermanWho put a curse on you?
>>551709867>spider man literally like fucking clockwork lmao
>>551709867erm actually it's okay when dps players eat shit and die constantly and it was bad heals that was the problem
>>551709867the Psylocke threw harder than the spider ifykyk
>>551709867>psylocke clearly ult farming and nothing else>spider-shitYes obviously another case of healers and tanks not doing their jobs.
>>551709701>>Star-Lord to TracerForgot about that oneStar Lord just has a miniature death blossom as his E. Every 8 seconds he gets to do half of a reaper ult while flying, that alone sets a standard for what healers need to deal with and that's before the fact that he still deals 20 more DPS than tracer while having more survivability. >>551709867I feel like i've seen that spider burden's name before
>enemy team bans Spider Man>weird pick but whatever >match starts>we wipe them in a matter of seconds and take point >check scoreboard >they have a Black Widow I didn't see in the fight who's the only player with no deaths>has a spidey onetrick nameFavorite examples of environmental storytelling in Rivals?
>>551708790You're rambling about irrelevant stuff people weren't even talking about.MR has way higher healing output than other hero shooters, this is not up for debate. This is fact.MR also doesn't have higher damage output. Melee heroes in particular deal low damage in this game. The rest of the DPS are comparable or stronger in OW, including having more one taps or extreme damage.>The damage is higher in rivalsFactually wrong, as I've told you multiple times. Your biggest mistake is not factoring in the base hp difference or just understanding everything as a whole in general. Which is why I hinted at you most definately needing me to excessively break it down for you to understand it, but I know people like you just dismiss it, like you did now. So I have the good sense not to waste that amount of effort and time on someone as undeserving of it and close-minded as you.MR is quite simply very very poorly and sloppily designed with quite possibly some of the worst competitive balancing out of any release AAA game. The incompetence of Zhiyong and his team is quite impressive.>>551709701If you want anyone with even average intelligence to care, try that again with less fallacies. I frankly struggle to even have enough interest to give you this reply. I have absolutely zero interest in irrational close-minded people like you, since you're useless. You cannot challenge my ideas, you're worthless and uninteresting.
551711848more like you striggle with any critical thoughtshut the fuck up already nobody believes you and nobody has agreed with you, fuck off back to your shit game with no agency retard
>idiots keep defending the healing in this game>zhiyong keeps making the game worse>the chink devs think marvel rivals will grow more in 2026It's like some bad comedy skit.
Did I miss the free units.
>>551711994The buffs for healers was a direct result of player behavior, the DPS were not protecting the healers enough according to the data the devs have.
>>551711927You're not qualified to engage with even people of average intelligence. Stick to shitposting and deflection, that's all you're capable of.I only engage in discussion to challenge my ideas. If you can't challenge my ideas, you have zero worth to me.
551712185I am a higher rank than youyour worth in this general is nothing, you are a shit tier player with shit tier taste and shit tier character assessmentbe silent TRASH
>>551712184>I'm nothing without the buffs>If you're nothing without the buffs, then you shouldn't have them
>>551712184>he buffs for healers was a direct result of player behavior, the DPS were not protecting the healers enoughThat is not their responsibility. If you have terrible positioning, game sense, situational awareness and mechanical skill to the point where you allow a diver into melee constantly with you and kill you, you are the one to blame for your deaths as a strategist every single time.But you are correct the incompetent devs are pandering to the incredibly bad strategist players to make them even more braindead proof. But clearly that isn't enough since they want more buffs for strategists, more nerfs for divers and will keep blaming their teams for their own incompetence. Quite sad really, since it means strategist players will never stop sucking.
>>551711848>You're rambling about irrelevant stuff people weren't even talking about>>Other hero shooters also have the dps higher compariatively speaking>Overwatch certainly doesn't.>>It does.>nobody was talking about overwatch damage relative to rivals>is not factoring in the base hp differenceWHICH IS HIGHER IN RIVALS, PUNISHER HAS 300 HP SOLDIER 76 HAS 250The only ones who have higher hp in overwatch are tanks which is made up for by the fact that there's only one of the fuckers as opposed to two and all the rest of the time you have fuckers like star lord who have massively more survivability than someone like tracer>muh meleeIf you don't have to aim and barely care about positioning you don't get to do massive damage that kills through healing, simple fucking as.
>>551712598>That is not their responsibilityIt objectively is. When a spider-man or venom are fucking up the backline because they can be anywhere in the game they want instantly its the fault of the DPS for not switching to namor or punisher to stop them from getting away with it. DPS tards just want to pretend to be the main character and keep diving wildly then they get to deal with the consequences of their mentality making the game unfun for 8-10 other people
>he bought
>>551712502>>551712598>team gameGun and Ball games are still there for you guys.
>>551709272I don't know what comps you're going up against, but she's a solid counter to most dive charactersE (Thunder) + M2 + M1 can kill the majority of squishies, and bring characters like DD to one hitShe's pretty shite at poke tho
>>551712273You proved you are indeed only qualifed for low brow shitposting and I am correct, as always. All you have are deflection and embarrassing attempts at chestpouding. In any case, you've stroked my ego enough, so no need to make fun of you any more.
Deadpool will be in all 3 classes next weekYou heard it here first
>>551712853t. silver
>>551712881No I didn't, it came to me in a dream first.
>>551712607>WHICH IS HIGHER IN RIVALS, PUNISHER HAS 300 HP SOLDIER 76 HAS 250The fact that you list these numbers and don't comprehend their meaning after I flat out told you sucked the last speck of hope for intelligence I had in you. You're just as useless to me now as your monkey friend >>551712273 . I have no interest in wasting time on idiots that can't challenge my ideas.
>>551713027Oh you're just that "can't interpret numbers" bait faggot8/10, you got me for a second
>challenge my ideasyoure mentally challenged enough you dont need more lmao
>>551704032yea thats cool. I feel like not having the Forerunners be humans kind of ruins it. Harbinger is always welcome as a villain tho
>>551712761>It objectively is.No it isn't. If the giga shitter keeps dying needless deaths you could argue it's in your best interest to babysit the braindead idiot if it's your healer. But that doesn't make it their responsibility.If a healer allows a diver to dive them unimpeded repeatedly they are ENTIRELY to blame. No one else. That should not be happening of the healer is even of avergage skill level. If oyu tunnelvision, don't look out for divers, don't position yourself so you're not an isolated easy target, you don't ping, you don't know the maps well enough to know where the flanking routes are, you don't adapt based on which divers they play, you miss your shots and skills, then you are entirely to blame and placing the responsibility of preventing you from dying on someone else is something only the biggest shitters would do.>>551712779Read the above. When I play soccer I expect the goalie not to run into the goalpost or trip over their untied shoelaces.
The next Kyoani incident will happen to Netease if Lady Loki turn out to to be a Hela skin
>>551705847always felt like they were calling back to the Master of the Sun stuff here
>>551713613>No it isn'tYes, it isDivers can be literally anywhere they want including inside the backline. Either you sit your ass there to fend them off or the only "good positioning" available to healers is inside of spawn, not healing.
>>551712184>DPS>protecting
>>551713110You don't even understand the correlation that average hp is lower in Overwatch and that means percentage wise the damage scales comparatively.Be honest, how old are you? What is the maximum level of math you've completed? What were your grades? This doesn't even qualify as math, but common sense and logic, which you clearly lack. I actually feel second hand embarrassment for your parents. But w/e that's theirs and your problem to deal with.
no more (You)s for you
>>551713754You're saying healers are entirely blameless if they die against divers. Repeatedly. Unironically.A healers n1 job is to not die. Period. Full stop. You're failing at your job and want to blame your coworkers for not doing your job for you.
>>551714047I'm saying if your healer has six deaths to an enemy spider-man you are also at fault now for not switching off to namor or wanda>hurrdurr but they're badso fucking what, healers are always shit for their rank it doesn't change the fact that in a game where the frontline is bypassed instantly and effortlessly its the job of damage to put pressure on fuckers so they can't do it for free.So yes, if they're behind 3 layers of cover and still dying, its your fucking fault for not babysitting their retarded asses if that's the reason you're losing
>>551713920talking with that retard was such a massive waste of time, its like he enjoys being a contrarian and straight up lying about numbers he cant comprehend
How are people getting ace on thier icon before the match even starts?
>>551714375He almost has a point except for the fact that a little bit of extra HP doesn't actually make up for a 20+ DPS difference for every single character on a team. He'd rather act superior than have an honest discussion
>>551714047Exactly, hence why they need more damage buffs so they can fight off divers by themselves while the dps players tend to their much more important job of shooting tanks to feed the enemy supports ult
>>551714474his superior act was a deflection from his embarrassing stupidityits why he couldnt argue past my post, he has nothing to say with direct comparisons and proof even when you dont involve numbers too stupid for his peabrain
>>551712607>bucky dps is 150>freja is 140>both can crit>average hp in mr is 275>avergage hp in ow is 250>bucky does 54% of average hp>freja does 56% of average hp>most heroes in mr do not do this high damage, the standard for melee is 80 dps. in ow it's 100 or around that for tanks, which is less in mr>ow also has across the board higher damage team wide, so more damage will be hitting each team, despite healing being lower in ow, being tied more to resources and cooldowns and having fewer healing ultshealing is higher in mr, while damage is also lower in mr. why is this even a debate, you have multiple healers in this game that do over 170 hps or even over 200 hps which is 72% of the average hp in mr
TRIPLE DPS BABYYOU LOVE TO SEE IT
>>551714650>>bucky dps is 150he's in excess of 180
>>551712881>next weekIt’s like two weeks though>>551712764No I didnt
>>551714775>20k DMG Squirrel Girl meme is realI love her but even I would know better here.
I don't understand how to play Blade
>>551711994>>551711848>>551712273truth
>>551714298>I'm saying if your healer has six deaths to an enemy spider-man you are also at fault now for not switching off to namor or wandaNo, the healer is the one at fault. No one else. Stop blaming your team because you can't stop dying because you suck. You need to stop sucking and stop demanding others to keep changing your diapers because you keep shitting yourself as a grown man.If anything, no one should peel for them so they finally learn how to play the game. You don't teach someone how to ride a bike by driving them around in a wheelchair.>>551714543>Exactly, hence why they need more damage buffs so they can fight off divers by themselvesThey're not dying because of a lack of damage. They're dying because they suck huge amounts of ass in terms of just playing the game. Most healers deal good or higher damage than divers already, so damage isn't a valid excuse.It's downright pathetic how hard healer players keep blaming everything but themselves over and over.
>>551714992Use gun liberallyYou're a mid-range/anti-brawl, your sword is only for when you can safely build stacks without getting focused down instantly or need to chase down some squishies on the run.
>>551713621Guess you better get prepared for what’s coming anon.
>551715067>No, the healer is the one at faultThen lose>your teamOf course your only response is ad hominemguess what dead weight, i main tanks, you're the reason why you're losing your games
>>551714775Healer's fault, they didn't pocket Squirrel Girl hard enough so she could pop off
dpsniggers shouldn't need to be healed by supports. If they didn't position like braindead retards they would not take damage in the first place. It is not the support's responsibility to heal dpsniggers.
>>551715561Health packs all over the map and not a single dpstoid knows that they can actually be picked up.
Generally, one should target the back line to stop the constant healing right? Do you guys ever get on chat and tell your team that, and if you do, do you see your team making changes to attack the back line?
>>551714775SG is useless as always
>>551715263>Then loseI don't, since I keep killing said shitty healers. I am well aware of how bad they actually are because I see all of their mistakes first hand and abuse it.>Of course your only response is ad hominemFancy word you don't know how to use or what it is. Cute. Did your boyfriend teach you that one? If the healer keeps dying to divers, the healer is the only one to blame. You can choose to coddle and babysit them, but that doesn't make it your responsibility or that you share the blame if a healer dies. It means they are so bad they are dragging their team down to the point the team has to overcompensate in multiple ways to not lose because of you.>you're losing your gamesI'm the one carrying your useless ass. Tanks have zero impact and are almost as bad as the healers at the game. I'm flat out abusing how bad players are at this game to win. Maybe tone down the logical fallacies.
>>551715561>>551715647>DPS Mentality: "I refuse to play tank, but I will tank every hit and power through every problem. No I will not defend healers, or assist tanks with the enemy that they will engage in, I will focus primarily on enemy healers or 1v1 everything. No I will not wait for the team. The loss is never my fault, you're all shit. GG No heals. It is the healer's responsibility to chase me down hallways, or heal me from across the map/behind walls. No I will not come back, or find a health pack, especially if I'm Spider-Man or Iron Man."
I'm unironically more excited for Elsa than I am for Deadpool.That latter was a given, the former is a wonderful surprise.
I don’t see why people complain about solo tanking, if I see three people lock dps I just type “I’m not solo tanking” in chat and 90 percent of the time someone will go second tank. It’s that easy
>>551715561>dpsniggers shouldn't need to be healed by supportsMany don't. Several tanks don't. These are the best roles since you don't need to rely on monkeys to be healed.>If they didn't position like braindead retards they would not take damage in the first placeThis is the excessive healing's fault and m1 healing. It makes everyone play worse from healers to tanks. Why learn how to position and go in and out of cover when you can stand out in the open and still live under a wall of fire.
>>551715890I'm happy she's in because she's a literal who with a potential fun kit and with no fan autism to complain about the adaptation. That and I dig the Van Helsing makeover she got
DPS, why do you REFUSE to fight the guys tanks are fighting? I never understood this
>>551715914>I don’t see why people complain about solo tanking, if I see three people lock dps I just type “I’m not solo tanking” in chat and 90 percent of the time someone will go second tank. It’s that easyIt's even easier if you have the good sense to never play tank or healer ever. Those are the roles for midwits and masochists.
>>551715857>filenameHeard it in his voice.
>551715770Sure you do, which is why you're whining about it
>>551715890>I'm unironically more excited for Elsa than I am for Deadpool.same+ I'm already in love with her tits
>>551715890I can’t say I feel the same since I only heard about her a few months ago but she’s very cute there.>>551714992His name is Gun.
>>551716148Because they're the obvious guys enemy healers will be focusing on duh
>>551716254Your type is always first to whine when 5 other dps instalock and don't swap
>>551714775Why so many triple dps comps this season?
I always just throw my Mag meteor at dps now instead of supports. Healers are always on high alert the instant they hear FEAR and already readying their escape move, while arrogant and foolish dps players never expect the meteor to be coming for them
>>551716742>Your type is always first to whine when 5 other dps instalock and don't swapNope, I never speak or write in chat and always leave when win/loss text appears. The matches where the team played the best and won were during 1 healer matches because the team played smarter.
>>551716689Why not just play bucky then?
>>551712607>>muh meleeIn a real game melee would be balanced around reaching the opponent, but here you go as a guy whose entire point is melee, gets close easily but doesn't really get to kill your opponent and instead of at least giving it some lasting damage he is healed back to full life in seconds. Whats the point of melee characters then? Oh yeah, none, unless you dived into a supportoid/DPSoid who is far away from everybody, because healing is overpowered.If all chinks are as stupid as Zhiyong, America has nothing to fear.
>>551716859>Why so many triple dps comps this season?No one but idiots play tanks and only braindead trashcans play healers.
>>551717215>>551717065how's the 31% winrate treating you
>>551716641She does have quite the lovely pair
Ah so Deadpool gonna be a multiclass hero right?
>>551717801Either that or they're just taking the piss out of thingsI personally believe the devs are just fucking about for fun
>>551717801We don't know for sure, but he's been swapping category every week and has been in the roster for all three roles at this point. People are guessing he's either a new role to himself or will have three different loadouts depending on whether the player picks him as a duelist/vanguard/strategist, similar to how Jeff Splatoon has three different Jeff loadouts
>in another game>melee dps comes into melee range? utterly destroys whoever is on the receiving end, especially if they're ranged dps or supports>in marvel rivals>supports and ranged dps do more damage, have easy to land cc, extremely strong escape tools and better survivability
>>551718164>Comparing a MOBA that has scaling/modifiable damage to a hero shooter that doesn'tDon't be disingenuous anon
>>551717435At 65-70% winrate on most heroes, thank you. All thanks to bad tanks and healers I kill.>>551717801>Ah so Deadpool gonna be a multiclass hero right?lolno, they're just trying really hard to be funny. With how shallow and boring the design for this game is that will not happen. Give up any hopes of that now.
>>551718164Learn to aim
>>551718164Retard
>>551718164You triggered them, good job.
>>551718164>dotards
>>551718316when people think of melee, they think of higher risk but bigger damage. in rivals it's higher risk for the worst damage in the game.
Ah well, I tried.
>>551716148because I'm too busy killing the healers so you can glory hog
>>551718484How did Rogue get MVP?
>>551718316Every genre follows this rule, only in MR you get to be a non-threat if you are a melee character.
>>551700585It should be like a reverse of Hawkeyes Ult where he leaves afterimages instead
>>551718164When /mrg/ says that divers deal too much damage I just laugh.
>>551718164>You didn't shoot me out of the sky in the 1.3 seconds it takes me to get to you from spawn? Too bad that means I deserve to oneshot you for freethis is what spidernigs actually believe
>>551718164I mean you just pointed out the big problem, ASSFAGs are balanced around certain heroes having phases of being powerful and phases of needing to use strategy (builds and vision and positioning and team comps) to mitigate their weaknesses. All the heroes you put up top get shit on if they don't manage to close the gap so they deliberately have to build certain items, risking opportunities for your enemy to come back, just to ensure they can get to the melee. You can't get that in a hero shooter with 4 minute rounds, everyone needs to be strong right the fuck now or they might as well not be worth it. Hero shooters are fundamentally flawed as a genre you're meant to take seriously but ranked shit is the hotness for keeping people addicted
>>551718479None of those are particularly high risk thoughThey can all pretty much bugger out whenever they wantHulk's kinda the weakest in that department of the four though
>>551718725>I deserve to oneshot you for freeBut that's most ranged dps and healers. Some outright delete divers like Rocket with his almost 200 damage per second while iron fist punches you for 60.
>>5517184843 screenshots and this 0-chan fag has only played one character
I think what Rivals need is a 20 minute PvE phase where you farm braindead monsters before you get to fight the enemy team
>>551718607It’s really hard to get mvp as Hela and Psylocke Game just doesn’t like to give it to these two unless they straight up assrape the lobby
>>551719035And the game gets decided by one team fight that someone wasn't there for because they wanted to get one more thing
I think Rivals needs to allow every player in game to ban one character
>>551718912>None of those are particularly high risk thoughWhat is more high risk>having to try to sneak in solo in the middle of the enemy team with no support from allies to try and get a kill in melee range and then get out without dyingor>sit in the backline surrounded by allies on long range heroes with escape tools cc and good sightlines
>>551718982THIS NIGGA GOT DIFFED BY A ROCKET
>team dies a single time>we have to go triple heals its the only way to winTRY DOING SOME FUCKING DAMAGE THEN IF YOUR GONNA BE DUELIST
>>551719241>diffed by a rocketMore like you suck on Rocket and never use his gun. There is no end to the amount of heroes I've killed on Rocket that get within 10 meters.
>>551719212But nobody's sneaking in like thatEspecially of those examples givenPlus as a diver you shouldn't be running in solo anywaysYou should be engaging while your team's engaging their frontline providing you the proper distractionYou're not Spy TF2, you're more like Scout TF2
This thread convinced me to stop peeling for strategists
>>551719035>i'm too much of a retard to do anything in laning phase so that means it shouldn't existOr you can just git gud
>>551718607new character bias unironically I just had the same thing were my teams venom was noticeably more useful and i saw the rogue go in 1v6 and the game says rogue is the mvp
>>551719571>Plus as a diver you shouldn't be running in solo anyways>You should be engaging while your team's engaging their frontlineThat is you being solo. You won't be getting a shield or heals from your allies, or damage on the one you're attacking. You also have to be in deep and in melee. That is infinitely higher risk than a healer ever is against a diver.
>s5.5 patch so bad i have 0 playtime in itgrim
>>551718607iirc MVP is decided by two partsYour overall score, and whatever unique trackers your characters has, like ability accuracy or times an ability landed and so forthIt's why when the Thing was released, he had a counter for every time he hit someone with his charge, but because that was so easy to do, he got MVP like nobody's business until they removed that counter
>>551719804>You also have to be in deep and in meleeWhich is why every diver in rivals gets obscene amounts of survivability in >dashes>i-frames>bonus HP>resetsGetting in and out is laughably easy for divers. Getting the kill thus becomes the difficult part they have to earn.
>>551716859Tanks earn the least amount of points winning, and lose the most amount of points when losing.NetEast is terrified of repeating Season 2 for some reason. I didn't play season 2 so I actually don't know anything besides Emma being giga busted But I do know that n supportsissies cried about it like they do every season.
>>551720029ultron god here it brought me back to the game
>>551720076>gets obscene amounts of survivability inNo they don't. They also have to ration that and every single cooldown to not only survive, but to get a kill and escape.Imagine the outrage from strategist players if they got 2 charges on their equivalent of dash moves like Gambit has>iron fist has 2 charges on kun lun kick>wolverine has 2 charges on leap>panther has 2 charges on spin kick>magik has 2 charges on umbral incursionEscaping, surviving or killing the diver as a strategist is comically easy.If it wasn't for how utterly terrible healer players were at the game, it'd be impossible to kill them.
>>551720029How do you know it's bad when you haven't even played it
YoWhy do I have to tell people how to play the game at 2,500 hours?Are people really this dense or is this just EOMM agents.
I cant tell if the post defending hyper sustain heal slop are trolling or not, that shit actually killed Overwatch so I dont know why we have to pretend people like it nor why they just don't go back plus the game only has poke heroes and no melee too
Patiently waiting for the 6 support meta
>>551720773>How do you know it's bad when you haven't even played it
>>551716712>>551718539Just attack the same fucking people. The damage output will overpower healing
>>551720729>No they don't>3 web swings>2 charges of i-frames and 30% damage to bonus HP>50 bonus hp, 2 dashes, and .25s CD reduction on hit>50 bonus hp per toss, 25m dash to point, and complete invulnerability from the front>sprint speed, dash, dive, and 300 hp shield>web swing and 800 bonus HPPanther is the only one who's weak and even then its 25 bonus HP per mark consumed and 20% bonus damage below 100hp, with 2 dashes (one refreshes). You're fucking insane if you think this isn't enough mobility and survivability to get in and out.
>>551721452It literally will not. I just had a match as DD with a rogue and we were smashing CnD and gambit and their health didn't fucking move. Healing is so giga overpowered in this game.
>>551721490I like how you try to unironically say divers aren't high risk. Is this your layup to say strategists are the highest risk in the game and takes the most skill to play. Because I've heard that joke before.
>>551721696Nigger what fucking risk? Literally all of them give you so many handholds to get in and leave its not even funny. Even seeing a spider-man coming he can still just fucking leave unless you nail the CC. There is zero risk in just existing, the effort comes when you're trying to force a kill despite CDs being up which you shouldn't be trying to do without a second teammate diving with you in the first place.
>>551721704>Source: Trust me broBullshit. That's a skill issue
STAND PROUD SOLO TANK BROS!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-r-V0uK4u0
>>551721894>Nigger what fucking risk?Disregarded. For a second there I thought I was talking to a human being. You clearly don't play diver at all.
>>551717801If any character was going to do that it would've been rogue.
>>551722076>SOMEONE ONCE DID 60 DAMAGE TO ME AND MY HEALERS DIDN'T PUSH THROUGH 5 PEOPLE TO TOP ME OFF REEEEEGet over yourself
>>551721894You're fucking retarded. Heroes like Iron Fist deal such poor damage he can't kill most healers and has to burn everything to even get a slight chance to do it, which then means he's dead since he can't use kick to escape. The fuck am I reading with this "no risk" shit.
>>551721842Divers aren't high risk though, you just said yourself that all support players die instantly to your godlike skill and you don't even have to struggle to get a killUnless.... you're lying anonymously on the internet to stroke your ego........ but what kind of sad embarrassment of a person would do that?
>>551722228>TO TOP ME OFF REEEEEYou drunk or just stupid? Divers don't get healed or expect to be healed. They are high risk because they are entirely cut off from their teams and have to get right into melee range in the middle of the enemy team. If that isn't risk you're so fucking stupid you should just kill yourself.Like what fucking equates to risk for your dumb ass, huh? Go on and tell us.
>>551722286>Heroes like Iron Fist Has been intended to be an anti-tank brawler for four fucking seasons now, he is not nor was he evidently ever meant to be some diver who can use his>wall run>3 jump dashes>kick dash>completely forward invunlerability and 100 bonus hp>full heal plus 100 extra bonus hpto just kill healers without having to aim you fucking retardhow about you get some actual fucking skill in the move and aim genre and actually learn to fucking aim instead of whining that the characters who outright ignore half the fucking game don't get to freely win
I like duo tanking with a Rogue or as a Rogue, really is a fun experience.
>>551722337If you want a serious reply, don't write logical fallacies. Since you love fallacies, here's one for you. If divers aren't at risk, then which role is?
>>551722486>They are high risk because they are entirely cut off from their teams and have to get right into melee range in the middle of the enemy teamAnd they each get half a dozen tools to mitigate that riskYou faggots are release doomfist whining that just one comboing someone who isn't instantly healed isn't enough, your 3 dashes aren't enough, your 125 bonus hp isn't enough because someone somewhere might have a stun
>>551722528>more excuses>not answering questionsIf you can't answer simple questions and just defelct, you admit to being wrong and this conversation is over and I won.
>>551722541Rogue's great because she can just tackle anyone at a moment's noticeSure it has a 30 second CD, but play smart and it's a guaranteed kill
>>551722695Answer the fucking question, faggot.>Like what fucking equates to risk for your dumb ass, huh? Go on and tell us.What in the game is the highest risks? Go on and tell us it's playing healer or tank or something equally retarded. Go on, I know you want to.
>>551722776What fucking question you retard? The obvious rhetorical question?>hurrdurr its risky because lots of people aroundthen tanks are always maximized risk you fag
>another episode of /mrg/ claiming divers are overpowered>in a patch with gambit and sueno easier way to spot a strategist player
ive discovered how to kill things better as thorjust spam shift alongside mouse1now my question is why does everynody magneto has a high damage output, i dont see it
>>551717528Made for Wade>>551717801Nope, that’s reserved for someone like Legion or Sinister>>551718664Kek sad but true
>>551719035would probably be a good way to pass the time >>551720029i have like 6 hours total lol
>>551723126Carefully explain how the risk doesn't go up when>completely surrounded by enemies>can't be healed or shielded by allies>can't get help attacking the same target>has to be right in the face of the enemy to deal damageat even a baseline. All of these things objectively and factually add risk. Period.Before you try to pull some bullshit about "muh diver has a dash" then you seem to have a brainfart because healers have shit like crazy self heals, 2 charge dashes, strong damage, hard and soft cc and the list goes on, on top of>being surrounded by allies and can get help from them in terms of healing, shielding or attacking the diver>can attack them at range as they're trying to approach and outdamages themThe one at higher risk is the diver, not the healer. Period.
>>551722045Damn. He looks hot there too. What a beast. Lizardcuck owned.
>>551723614BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT YOU AND THE SECOND THEY START LOOKING AT YOU YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTANTLY LEAVE
>>551723749>hi my name is anon and i have never played diver before, please listen to my bullshitTell me the one about the porridge and 3 bears while you're at it. I need a good fairy tale.
>>551723614But you just said you still win every time easily...?
>>551719628based FUCK cucktegists>>551720778the latterenjoy gweilo
>>551723749>deflectionThe favorite tool of retards.
>>551723865>oh no, they started looking at me, time to pull out of this diveAnd then you lived with literally no risk>oh but i didn't get a killWho fucking cares, throwing a single web cluster can make a CnD throw down their heal bubble which opens up a kill the next time you swing around in 2 seconds
>>551719628>This thread convinced me to stop peeling for strategistsSame, we had anons saying the strat's team is to blame if the strats die.
>>551724156Okay, you've convinced meLiterally everyone who argues in favor of dive is actually just baiting retardThanks, i'll never waste my time trying to argue with dive again, i'll just always support nerfing them so people play actual shooters
>>551724224You didn't answer the question, you didn't refute anything, no nothing. Instead you keep changing the subject and move goalposts because you absolutely do not want to admit that certain things just bey default add more risk, like>completely surrounded by enemies>can't be healed or shielded by allies>can't get help attacking the same target>has to be right in the face of the enemy to deal damageand you don't even want to say what roles you think are higher risk. Because you know the moment you do, your entire premise is in shambles.You're brain damaged and close-minded. I knew it was a waste of time responding seriously to anyone on /mrg/ with retards like you around.
You know part of the fun anticipating characters is the prospect of NetEase completely revamping characters that are either unknowns or have had recent bad press to the larger audiences. Like for example Captain Marvel and Ghost Rider. The former has had bad luck for years when Marvel tried to sell a "Wonder Woman" of their own, and Ghost Rider just has a bad track record outside of appearance/gimmick.
This anon is unironically the 3-18 Spiderman selling your rank games lmao
>>551724352You LITERALLY deflected. REPEATEDLY. I could ask you a simple question and you would be 100% incapable of answering it. Instead you would deflect. Guaranteed. Here, let me demonstrate.Answer this simple question>Does being completely surrounded by enemies, with no help from your team in any way, add or reduce risk?
>>551724560Anon the whole thread agrees with you, the difference is you're all whiny and have been arguing with one person this entire time till now.
>>551724628ms marvel was from inception a wonder woman of their own
I had three people throw today. I am a little annoyed.
>>551724734Who is he selling them to?
18v18 should get CTF
>>551724628Pretty much all the female characters in Rivals are unpopular or literal whos besides like Storm, Rogue, Black Widow and Invisible Woman and even those examples are mostly because they're the token female members of popular teams made up of mostly male heroes.Nobody actually likes female-led comics or movies, they just want female characters in the game for the gooner skins
>>551720836They're just clueless morons. Honestly what would really fix this trash ass gameplay.
>>551724983Good lord noTDM is the best and only option for 18v18What we need are more maps
>>551724224Since its clear you have never played as one, do you at least know what is the purpose of a dive?
>>551725089I love me my literal whos
>>551725151Based on what I usually see from them, to run 1v6 into the enemy team and die
>>551725127No you don't understand, it would be TF2 but gayer.
>game says 30 seconds for comp game>3 minutes no gameso people just stopped playing comp cause of no role queue? I dont really wanna play QP with retards
>>551724871Norman
Elsa Bloodstone reminds me just how shit Blade is in the larger Marvel Universe. You got a magic problem? You call Dr Strange. Some weird monster bullshit that needs exterminated? Elsa Bloodstone. Monster bullshit or street crime, and Elsa isn't available? You call Moon Knight and his Midnight Mission even though you really don't want to.Blade is shit. Hell not all vampires are even bad, he's just a self-loathing racist
>>551725605depends entirely on what rank you are at.
>>551725595I can assure you nothing will be gayer than TF2Not even OW can manage that
>>551725089>Nobody actually likes female-led comics or moviesAliensGhost in the ShellMulanWizard of OzKill BillBuffy the Vampire SlayerSAGA comicFallout TV showetcNormal people like good media regardless of the gender of the protag.
>>551722541Playing coordinated duos with my friend as Captain America and me as Rogue with the Gambit Team up is just the equivalent of running a freight train through the enemy lines.
>>551725840Characters generally work best when self-contained. Things quickly get stupid when you overlap them.
>>551725937Nobody watched Alien for Ripley, and Zoomers trying to push her as the ideal female badass protagonist will never stop being ridiculous.
>>551726064Yeah but I can still enjoy practically every Marvel hero when they cross over into something else, except Blade
>>551725840Hell, Elsa also doesn't get called in for all monster related issues eitherIt's only when someone at Marvel remembers she exists does she get brought upAnd usually as a supporting character too, very rarely does she get time in the spotlightBut the few stories that are focused on her and monsters makes me wish Marvel leaned more into that side of thingsIt's also why I really like the Frankencastle run
>play Angela>namor swap>bucky swap>invis woman swap>emma frost swapOh come on, she's not THAT annoying.
>>551726293Best to hope for is that rivals synergy puts her into the Infernal Hulk book a bit
i will actually be surprised if they dont nerf gambits ult going into next season, its blatantly broken.
>>551725937I should rewatch Charmed
>>551726172>Nobody watched Alien for RipleyJust like how no one watched Terminator 2 for Arnold or Rambo 2 for Sly.
>>551726487She's be showing up an awful lot as of late for being a literal who, what with Blood Hunters, Werewolf by Night, and that Jeff comic, so I'm holding out hope that she'll be popping up more and more as time goes on
>>551725840
>>551726674It's so stupid, it forces you to either ban him or pick him.I thought Invis Woman's ult was annoying, this puts that to shame.
>huge roster of more interesting and visually different female characters>another white redhead with guns insteadJust like all the chinese gacha slop, how original
>>551727020Red hair looked good on comic print and used to be more common in the states
>>551726674>i will actually be surprised if they dont nerf gambits ult going into next season, its blatantly broken.Don't worry, Zhiyong knows what he's doing. He'll increase the ult cost by 100 and that will fix it.
>>551727020>another white redhead with guns instead>Just like all the chinese gacha slopName tenBonus points if they're actually older than Elsa
>>551727261Name ten what? Generic white looking women with just different haircolors, including redheads? You think generic white chicks are uncommon in gachas or something?
whats the low iq get me to celestial play rn?Like easy mode characters
How many uncels are in the thread?
>>551727915>whats the low iq get me to celestial play rn?>Like easy mode charactersAny braindead healer like Gambit, Rocket, Sue
>>551727915Hela, Phoenix, Psylocke, Magneto, Invisible Woman, Gambit, Luna Snow
>>551721909I'm at work on my phone. I swear to God I will clip it for you in 8 hours if you don't believe me.
>>551727759You're made of spare parts, aren't ya?Yes ten "generic white redheads with guns"And given what you've posted, you've only thought so far as the color red, something that resembles a firearm while being femaleNot exactly the most solid of foundations for determining if something's "generic"
How do I into DPS? I can deal massive damage, but nothing dies sometimes.I'm new so I get I'm doing something wrong, I know not to just shoot the tank at least. I try to focus supports if I can or other duelists first.
>jeff does not heal me>keeps ulting into unprovoked teams so they just filter him>ask him to heal me and let me tank>we win in 4 minutesThis is why I cant stand mantis, Ultroons, Adamsthey dont let me carry
>>551728051>Hela, Phoenixthey require aim though
>>551728535theyre braindead, their positioning is brainless just aim
>>551728296?Are you really trying to say that you don't believe there exists 10 white red haired women with guns? Is this a joke? Then are you intentionally missing the point of almost all women in the game are generic white women with different colored hair apart from Storm as the only exception?Is the MR cock this far up your ass, fanboy, where you want to defend everything even when it makes you look like a retard? ok.
>>551728535>>551728605This.You can have a 35-40% accuracy and do good, and you just sit in the back and poke awaytheres literally no fundemental gameplay there.
>>551728976Okay so zero so far
>>551729043>35-40% accuracy and do goodreally?Cause that's my average on them and i feel like shit
>>551728296>elsa bloodstone isn't generic?????????????????????
>>551729083I just know a deranged fanboy when I see one, I could dig up 50 and you would still find some way not to concede, I know your cockslurping deranged types.But nice of you to make it clear you're retarded from the getgo so no sane person needs to waste more time on you. Preferably do that with your first post though, just state you're a cockslurping retarded fanboy.
>>551729186Find me ten others that look like her that were also created before her then>>551729340Well then go and dig up fifty. Not like these threads are going anywhere anytime soon so you have loads of time to back up what you're saying
I keep telling myself I have to stop getting angry at my teammates.
>>551729739Venting can be cathartic but it rarely does anything to help your chances of winning
Blade is too fun man, the self healing lets you go crazy farming ult really fast while being unkillable
>>551729739best way to do that is by expecting them to be the worst and useless every game so if they are good youre surprisedthen youll have more responsibility on yourself to play above average too
>>551729502>Well then go and dig up fiftyUnlike you I am not retarded and can spot an irrational retard when I see one. You already proved you're disingenous and moved goalposts. The point was that out of all the female characters they could've chosen, they picked another white chick with red head and a gun (game has multiple redheads and one with a gun already), on top of all of them but one being white women.Even this reply is more than you deserve.I'm an optimist that wants to believe not everyone on /mrg/ is an irrational retard, but sadly that is the case as you just demonstrated once again. All you want is to suck cocks, shitpost and waste people's time and respect.
>>551729947So still nothingAlright then
>>551729739>>551729810>>551729923I'm not being toxic, I'm giving you a fucking performance review. I just did a terrible Central Park map where we couldn't even take point one thanks to 3 chucklefuck DPS. Gee, almost as if the enemy team comp is better or something. I'm tanking for my fucking life as Venom and Angela trying to give their backline some pressure and I got dick. Thank you shit Moon Knight, and shit Iron Man taking pot shots from space
>>551729814aaand my blade got target banned next game
>>551729739I keep telling myself never to try to talk to anons in this general and turns out it's good for my sanity since this place is filled with idiots.
>>551730176>Blade>BannedWhat the fuck
>people don't instantly leave when the win and loss text comes up
>>551730193I see you
>>551730362I thought that counts as a disconnect?>>551728515CuteWould cum in her braces
>>551730487>I thought that counts as a disconnect?When the text comes up, the match is counted as being over and safe to leave.
>>551724850True, but a crumby one at that>>551725937>Saga comic>Fallout tv showEasier on your bait please
>>551728535If you're really struggling, you don't have to aim at super far away targets since both Phoenix and Hela are actually extremely forgiving at close range.
>>551729106you could lock in hela or phoenix, only ever hit bodyshots, and you would be better than 100% of diamond elo playersthe difficulty of aiming is offset by her overblown numbers and braindead positioning, you dont need to know how to make plays, understand any tech or movement, and dont even have to metagame your ult cause your neutral is so strong you can just press Q on cooldown and bait out response ults and then someone with an actually good ult can get full value on theirs
>>551725840>>551726190You’re pretty much correct. His whole gimmick and character is more or less held up by the fondness for the movie. Outside of that he’s very much a wet blanket within the universe. >>551726293DC handles that side of things way better honestly. They have something good with stuff like JLD and SHADE.
>>551731062If there's one thing I like about DC's setting is the fact that they made up big cities that can house as much bullshit as they want in them
>>551727020>>551727759>>551728976>>551729340i get what you mean but white women sell and clearly draw attention which is the chinese concern at the end of the day but yeah she is a pretty safe and generic pick clearly aiming for the ashe audience
LOKI PUSSY ON TUESDAY
>>551696327Kinda gay ngl
>>551730234I legit solo carried with him and destroyed them even with 3 healers
>>551731738Got any useful Blade tips?
>>551709484I have a feeling either of them will be the year 2 hero. Hopefully Doom because I want t hanos to be built up
>>551709484>>551731872They might be saving Doom for when Doomsday gets released next year as that's also in December so it'd make sense to drop Doom in game around the same time period for maximum advertisement potential
>>551729106Has it ever occurred to you that you're just terrible?I know a lot of anons here aren't aware that they're terrible and so they consistently project by calling others bad or having incredibly bad opinions like with the way most of them defended Daredevil, Gambit week one because they're not playing against good players to see how rapidly cancer new heroes can be but still, being this tone deaf is kind of pathetic.
>>551730150>and shit Iron Man taking pot shots from spaceMany such cases>>551730573Ok guess that makes sense
just played some 18v18 on the NA servers for the first time I've never had unbalanced matches like this before talking 40/120 actually insane
>>551732023Post rank
>>551731224Yeah it gives them a lot of narrative freedom now that you mention it and they don’t have to cover their asses explaining stuff nearly as much because of it
>>551731824Block basically immediately when they get away from you with your melee because youre usually being focused down and without self heal you pop. Use your slow if youre chasing, use your anti heal if youre defending. Spam jump to dodge shots
>>551732383It's not there to be balancedIt's there to fuck around and KILL
>>551732383>talking 40/120That was definitely someone intentionally feedinga spider-man diving off cliffs i bet
>tfw you get a quad kill posthumously with Squirrel Girl ult
>>551732495cIII
>>551733140Sure, sure
>>551732383yeah I'm NA and somehow had games where out of the 17 other people somehow nobody picks Support or deliberately walks in a 1v5 or something. EU is way better also I have no idea why I dont lag on EU servers compared to NA when I'm the furthest from it
lady loki is a bucky skin
>>551733414I'm on virginia rn and the rubber banding is crazy ofc I have 150 ping but it shouldn't be this bad
just hit diamondyay
>Solo tanking>We're pushing the cart>3 fucking healers>Get a Namor and a Wanda>Pulling teeth to get first point, barely make it from the timer>I was harassing the hell out of the back line as Venom>Point out we don't need 3 healers. We need to push and kill the enemy. Namor and Wanda are too passive>Only get second point because FINALLY fucking 3rd healer Luna goes Emma and I swap to Angela to ult stall the enemy>Cant take 3>Smartass Emma "Apparently we did need 3"NO YOU FUCKING MORON. WE NEEDED DPS TO FUCKING SEAL THE GODDAMN DEAL. I DONT SEE NAMOR NOR WANDA DESTROYING NESTS, KILLING PUNISHER, KILLING SQUIRREL GIRL, YOU'RE JUST PUSSYING AROUND THE FUCKING CART HOPING IT WILL MOVE
>>551733412I'm better than everyone in this thread and I can say that even the best players here are GM piggies at their peak.
>>551734124>solo tanking>picks Venom
>>551734259Solo tanking is bullshit no matter who you pick so they're entitled to pick whomever they want.
Hela Loki might not be so bad
>>551734259If you're solo tanking you have the right to choose whichever tank you want
jeff costume leveling takes so long dude
>>551734130Sure you are, you definitely proved that by randomly shitting on a man saying he's not great with semi-auto DPS and extrapolating that into some retardation
>>551734826>cuts out current rank and winrateOh no no no no
>>551734826>>551734130>>551734982>neither shows name or timestamped pic of their screen showing they didn't just pull up a random profile
>>551734130>hiding herocarried by hela confirmed
>>551734130>those previous ranksyep straight liar
>>551735518It's almost like that's my secondary account.
>>551735518nta but my previous ranks are bad because I stopped playing ranked for a lot of seasons but my peak is celestial III
Finally beat nightmare 4 solo
>ppl giving a shit about rankswhat is this, highschool?
Gay sex with Venom>>551737195I don't think ranks matter because someone like me can make it to Celestial when playing ranked constantly in a season (I'm not very good)
>>551737195especially in this game which has people with an overall 45% winrate in GM, they just eventually boost you up to any rank if you play enough
>>551677218what drives a man to post cuck shit like this
>>551684967>man jawed
>>551737195your rank defines your skill in this gameif you cant climb you should not talk about balance or anything about the metaif you want to you can quote better players but if you want to use your own words and analysis on the meta you better be at least Diamond and not be a pussy about showing your rank like those femboys from earlier
>>551676276Inverse of you. Won 4 lost 1. Only because I had a wanda one trick that refused to swap after they went 3 healers. I had 27 deaths but it was scarlett witches fault I had to dive the healers for us to have any chance.
I never did figure out how to get just the winter peni skin outside of the bundle. oh well...I will just not have every peni skin I guess...
>>551738902canon is canon deal with it
>>551734982Why not, not like you actually proved anything pulling up some random profile>>551735285exactly
>>551739212retards are born every day i guess
>its a "DPS will literally never switch even as they're getting countered to fuck" episodeWhy do MKs think they can just randomly throw projectiles down a hallway when 2 divers are attempting to kill them?
>have classic 2-2-2 team>be tank>team does pretty awful>lose first round>halfway through round 2 our Gambit asks someone to switch>alright, I'll go Invis, you go tank then>we still lose>Gambit has done 5k healing over the one and a half round he was healing>I do 3k of healing for half a roundholy fuck why did you pick Gambit then
>>551739848You're fantasizing about a kid getting with a godlike being, shits weird
>Muh role queue, muh high healing, muh low damage>Fix it pls, Overwatch does this to fix it, Overwatch does that to fix itah yes, lets make our game more like Overwatch, a game that's been dying since 2017
Rivals' Emma Frost is a miracle of the universe
>posting fanart that looks nothing like the in-game characterlollmao even!
>people are still defending the outrageous supports in this game>While also claiming dive and other DPS and tanks need nerfshttps://youtube.com/shorts/oILCJWfx-CM
>posting fanart that looks 1:1 to the in-game characterBased and Onmodelpilled
Do the characters shave?
>>551742740>OnmodelfagsWhat do you want, a gold star for jerking off to porn that follows the in house character sheet? All my ficticious women need to be absolute sex units. Or not. I don't care. So long as my dick gets hard.
>>551743301Nyl & RadRoach coded
>>551742740>>551742212Based>>551740947No, I’m talking about his adult self actually. Think before you speak
>he didn't buy
At what point am I allowed to be frustrated at my teammates and not myself for losing the match?
>>551746176when your Magik goes 8-18
>>551745795Correct. Shits ugly.
>>551745795I don't buy skins for characters I don't play
>>551741876I'm also happy to see you're still struggling to shamelessly promote your slop shinda, better start looking for a real job in new years
I just borrowed this, can it play rivals? I don't want to download a 100gb game just for it to run like shit
>>551749167rivals always runs like shit so
>>551749330even at low settings?
>>551746176when it's a spider-burden
>>551746176there's no point. just keep trying to improve. being mad about some toddler throwing your game isn't gonna help.
>>551749167>can it play rivalsyes lolthe min reqs are much lower than that>>551749330potato sgitter spotted
SOON
>>551749167>can my brand new pc with $2k worth of hardware run marvel rivals
>>551700812>the solo tank is cap
>>551749167yeah dude, you'll be fine. you can run basically anything at 1080p Ultra.
>>551726701>>Nobody watched Alien for Ripley>Just like how no one watched Terminator 2 for Arnold or Rambo 2 for SlyHence Contra (SNES).
this is what we want/need (not that woke bitch captain marvel)
>>551752287Anon, that is Captain Marvel
>>551752615yeah, we want pre-woke carol
>>551752857No such thing, chud
>>551750817more like 5k with how the market is going
Healing in Marvel Rivals is perfectly fineThe only supports that are overtuned at the moment are Sue and Gambit, but only slightly
I want kamala, not carol
>>551753204play scarlet witch and tell me that same thing with a straight face, youre making that statement based on only best dps
>>551752857Of course you do, you're 12.
>>551753357scarlet witch was designed to be a throw pick thothey worked overtime to fix a bug that made her character viable
>>551753234if they do Kamala i'm genuinely curious if they'll go with her MCU powers or not since Reed is already the stretchy Duelist (another reason he should've just been a Vanguard).
>>551730713>anon thinks the fallout tv show isn't popular and well likedHow's it like living under a rock.
>>551753392Gooning to Carol Venom
>>551741510No one said that, posters compared it to Overwatch to try and shut down everyone claiming that healing absolutely needs to be as high as it is in this game, that the healing is just as high in other hero shooters, damage is super high in marvel rivals but lower in other hero shooters and other lies.
>>551741510i think most of us have just written those posters off as /owg/ shitposters.
>>551753392she was a better character overall including the cheesecake
>Lady Loki DDs
>>551753204>Healing in Marvel Rivals is perfectly fineHealing is high to the point it ruins the game and makes almost everyone play worse, so it's not fine.Healer design is also homogenized, where more of them are m1 and have healing ults, which makes it extremely boring.I like playing healers in other games, but have completely stopped in Rivals because of how poorly designed and boring the healers in this game are.No game has fucked up this hard with healing and healer design. But that isn't surprising since it's made by chinese.
>>551753904>I like playing healers in other games, but have completely stopped in Rivals because of how poorly designed and boring the healers in this game areYea that's bullshitMarvel Rivals and Paladins have the best healers in the genre because both can heal and do damage, they're not completely lacking in agency and can fight back, in Overwatch they feel like shit to play except Ana and Zenyatta, the healers who coincidentally can fight back.
>>551754259not him but i don't like MR healers for the most partloved playing support in Paladins. Furia was my fucking wife. grohk and damba were absolute menaces with the right skill level
Why is thing played in pro play? I don’t get it
>>551754680Ornch
>>551753862>she was a better character overallyou say that like she is not and has not always been Carol Danvers. also – i don't really care that much about how Western comics characters are portrayed across eras because they get lobbed around to different writers all the time. if there was one, definitive, 200-issue Carol Danvers story with one writer and one artist for the whole run – that i would be interested in discussing with you.i'm not interested in discussing how a character who was written by different people 30-40 years ago isn't being portrayed the same way 40 years later when different writers are penning her. cause duh – you can say that for basically every Marvel and DC superhero. look at what Batman is right now for Absolute Batman.
>>551754545I think Paladin healers are the best healers of the genre but they sadly wouldn't fit in Marvel Rivals.Shame that Hi-Rez abandoned the game, I miss /palg/
>>551754680stuns, disables movement, big %hp damage+shields for ez brooling, decent mobility + save
>>551754680>>551754746>>551754947? but /mrg/ said Thing is the worst tank ?
>>551754824>look at what Batman is right now for Absolute Batman.that's the absolute universe. the one where Darkseid won and evil is a scientifically verifiable element of the universe. where hope was strangled out of people long before they were born.I get what you're saying but its a matter of course he's not the same as Earth 2 or Prime does make a lot sense now. you don't like Carol, you just like an aesthetic to fap to
>>551754259>Marvel Rivals and PaladinsPaladins yes, Rivals absolutely not. Every single m1 healer in Rivals is so poorly designed they ruin the entire game.
>>551755242I think he's very shit in my games but I can see the potential with good coordination. The problem with thing is that he melts to long range damage so if there's no follow up (all the time in my rank) then you just die. With good teams he is good
>>551754259>both can heal and do damage,Difference is in MR they never get the chance to. Players are conditioned to be healed non-stop and the healing is much stronger than their damage, so healing is almost always better. So with no downtime between healing in MR healers never have a reason to stop healing, which turns them into mindless healbots.
>>551755242Hes ornch
>>551754826>sadly wouldn't fit in Marvel Rivals.Of course they would. Cooldown and resource based healing is the best way to design healers. The chink devs are just incompetent and clueless.All you would have to do to make healers at least passably designed is to change 5 of them to not be m1 healers and change at least 1/3 of strategist ults to not heal at all and be more about utility. Gambit's Ult for example should never have had any healing attached to it.
>>551684238pwease mommy dagger...
>>551754680Because it's """"""pro"""""" play. It's such a joke teams are pulling out.
>>551755747>Every single m1 healer in Rivalsweird, I love playing themso good>ruin the entire game.that would be dps players(and matchmaking)
>2 days till lady loki teaserI can barely contain it
>>551756458"your goddess is suffering~"
>>551756458>worthless egirl support mains carried by invis and luna are going to try and play loki now not looking forward to this
>>551755623>that's an alternate universedon't do that. of course it is, but comics do that sort of thing all the time. and even if Marvel has one, long, ongoing continuity, it's a patchwork mess that's also been sewn onto and then torn apart from alternate universes.>you just like an aesthetici regularly admit that a big portion of my Carol appreciation comes from the surface-level similarities between her and Saiyans. this should not be a revelation for you. i am self-admitted as not being as familiar with her comic stories as i could be. other Carolfriend is more familiar with that side of her.>to fap toi'm not the one clamoring for the black and gold leotard, chief.
>>551756129>Of course they wouldNo they wouldn't, they would have to restructure the entire game and damage sourcesPaladins also has more damage tied to cooldowns and slower fire rate guns
Why does this M1 healing tard come here every week with the same Paladins png talking about the exact same argument when it's not going to change anything?
>>551756369For me it's Luna and MantisLuna is particularly fun because her core is just shooting others, friend or foe, and mogging duelist shitters with my superior aim never gets old, the fact that Luna causes so much seethe here is reward enough to play her, knowing I've likely wrecked some duelist sperg here.
>>551756458if shes loki, i will play lokiif shes hela i will be sad because i cant aim
>>551757467>pretending she encounters anyone itt in her games
>>551757464Because he's a retard talking out of his assHe thinks they could just airdrop Paladins healers into the game and they would just work
>on defense>team goes 1 tank- 2 dps - 3 healers>get absolutely rolled>only a small moment on resistance when one of thew healers goes second tank>on attack >team goes 1 tank - 2 dps - 3 healers>magically push it into a tie>back to defense for round 3>team goes 1 tank - 2 dps - 3 healers>nonono.jpg>get absolutely steamrolled againwhy, it didn't work on defense the first time, why would you think it would work this time?
lady loki alone will bring 50K players back, but only if she's a loki skin
>>551755747You forgot to post Grohk, who even in my dementia, I remember Hi-Rez had buffed at one point to be one of the strongest characters in the game's entire history. In fact I remember around 2020 or so they had to make Cauterize basekit because DPS niggers are the entitled players in every game and because healers were so strong. T. former Buck mainI miss Furia and Fernando. Fuck Kinessa players, though.
>>551759171If its not Loki that'd be weird, basically saying they can give skins that are a version of a character but for a different hero should give Hulkbuster armor to Hulk or Bucky his Cap suit and shit like that
>>551759651chinks are lazy tho
>>551759387>In fact I remember around 2020 or so they had to make Cauterize basekit because DPS niggers are the entitled players in every game and because healers were so strongCan you stop defending giga broken supports in games for one second just because you hate people who play DPS so much. These bitches in rivals are so fucked they're 1v1ing tanks and winning. That's not ok man.
>>551759387Pitsex with Grohk
>>551761178>These bitches in rivals are so fucked they're 1v1ing tanks and winningThis doesn't happen
>>551759387>Fuck Kinessa players, though.Going Minessa was fucking fun though. They had to nerf the mines from de-horsing people at spawn because it made them rage if they lost point due to it. Torvald was so good too until all the reworks and nerfs to his shield made him a mess.Atlas was another good tank. There are so many time travelers in Marvel that it'd be fun to see someone with a kit like his.
Let's play Paladins
>>551761272>This doesn't happennot him, but it does, retard
>>551761272Literally in this thread >>551742334
who was the best release? Who was the worst?
>>551761582The Thor fucks up and presses F instead of just spamming shift in her face and pushing her from her shieldHe got outplayed bigtimet. Thor main
>>551762005She can recreate her shield on herself constantly.>Thor mainNigger the clip is of one of the best players in the game.
>>551761854Seems like people stopped giving a shit about jean and ultron faster than the rest
>>551761854>BestGambit or Emma>WorstPhoenix
>>551761854>BestEmma>WorstBlade or Jean
>>551761854>BestEmma>WorstBlade
>>551762104He's not actually a thor main people just say shit in this thread and don't respond when they get called out
>lady loki will have ultra long legs + huge tits and ass combohow I'm supposed to aim with all that right in my face!?
>Play for a year>Peak is Plat 2In my comp games I feel like im the only one underperforming with damage and heals if im on support. Its funny cause I've been practicing on qp and get mvps so i felt i was finally ready for ranked again and im still constantly the worse on my team. feels bad man.
Deadpool please... save our game...
The shitty state of the game is because those chink fucks don't have a backbone and won't just tell the support tranny players to get better
>>551761854>who was the best release? I'm gonna say for each class Gambit, Emma, and Daredevil. All powerful picks in their classes from the time they released and in Emmas case even with her nerfs her gameplay is still solid.I think Gambit and DD will get micro nerfs in the same vein but never anything big enough to undo what role they serve since they're already favorites >Who was the worst?Blade. He had bugs, unsatisfying gameplay because of it, and his niche was only game changing when it was adopted by other stronger heroes. Hes ok now but from how much they teased and hyped him up he fell short from everyones expectations on release
>>551763159its because they are incapable of original ideas so they copy blizzard who did the exact same fucking thing with overwatchgoats is an inevitability
reminder that hela empress of the cosmos was free skin
>>551762805I am, in that situation you should spam shift right after a melee hit, ideally placing your E down before bullying her with shift spamShould've only used F if there's no shield in the wayThe Sue played better and the Thor fucked up
>>551764276Jeets love this
why do people call jean jean, but no one calls wolverine logan?
Support dps should be capped at 50 max under ideal circumstances (5+ second ttk on a 250hp target assuming all shots land).Let's see how """healer""" stacking works out then.
>>551764276no more sloppa
>>551762807It’s a good thing Loki has splash damage
>>551756369>that would be dps playersHealers tunnelvision because of m1 healing and never stop heabotting. Some people grow bored of this and try to damage, which pisses off their teams.The teams play worse because they expect the infinite healbotting and becoming unkillable, which makes them just stand out in the open more taking unneccesary damage, which then drives healers to healbot even more. This also creates match stagnation where the pacing is slow.
>>551756956>No they wouldn't, they would have to restructure the entire game and damage sourcesNot at all. This is proven wrong the moment any team doesn't have 2 m1 healers or a rocket. Players start playing sensibly.But the healer design in MR's problems extend beyond this. Heroes like MalDamba has 10x more skill expression than Luna or Sue.
Say something nice about him. He is working very hard for you, after all.
