>>551789235
your bitch is CRINGE

>>551789235
Flat as a pancake.

kek what a slutty sultry minxy bitch that gets impregnated daily

>Put simplqqqqy

>>551789347
That's not Rena

anal sex with loli kyouko
nakadashi sex with grown up kyouko from that doujin

>>551789235
sex with hebes

>>551789353
BASED

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>>551789392
I was about to make a bread without that error btw

>>551789551
buzzword

>>551789573
>dodged a cipher thread
*wipes sweat off forehead*
*wipes precum off dick head*
*makes an exaggerated hand movement while saying:*
PHEW! that was a close one!

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>>551789353
>>551789551
Based posts.

>>551789235
>>551789549
>>551789551
>>551789869
she only fucks girls

>>551790016
with dicks

KWABoTYs voting is now open until NYE: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeoJxBmkOaOstCHEL4o7OSWY6fdy3b7aavEL-LEXBlHVdpfpw/viewform?usp=dialog

't 'e 'g

>>551790137
Does anyone have screencaps of the lav ragequit?

>>551790057
Based /zzz/bro

>>551790285
bit esoteric, no?

>>551790347
No, because it didn't happen.

>>551790452
'''

>>551787154
poland on the left wtf

Damn, the guy streaming kurisumasu cup has a really shitty mic

>>551789869
>>551789235
Kyoko EK SEX

>>551790673
⋅⋅⋅

gay sex

not that it matter thats much since its not going to win, but wtg had new pitch texture, menu picture and name(that was not changed for the save) but auties still has the old shit

i hope pes13 will never be considered for a tourney ever again

my sangen wife's hard-earned victory in VGL25

>>551791880
I don't think it's ever been considered by /gaysco/

>>551791934
Kill yourself cipher

>>551791934
>be /1999/
>win on a freak penalty
>win on a goalkeeper failure
>win on PKs
>win on a freak penalty
>win on defender failure
>win because the other team's attacker trips up "randomly"
ok

>>551791880
PES13 has been >fun. but the biggest hurdle is the aesthetics which take too much of a hit. I'd be interested in seeing if some PES13isms can be imported into a later PES though.

>>551792169
Only concede one goal in knockouts

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>>551792169
You're not building Luck 10 in Fallout?

>>551792236
i haven't watched any game, name some pes13isms.

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/1999/ won because /hsrg/ won in the Ro16

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VGL25 Auties
https://forms.gle/QQj8mrEKsvBKjKjY9
Voting open until Sunday

>win because your strikers and defenders were better
>/4ccg/ seethes and copes about it for weeks
kwabbypow!

>>551792576
Damn, I want Costco hot-dog now.

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cloud

>>551792756
I don't think anyone has ever said this

>>551792169
Biggest luckshitter since /gbfg/

>>551792327
For me it was Bulshitmancer (Divination Wizard) in BG3, almost made the pain of act 2 bearable

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>>551792916

>>551792953
/uma/'s been luckshitting for 3 leagues now

>>551792335
>Some of the wackiest spaghetti that feels like it only exists on 13
>Keepers feeling like their gloves were dipped in butter so they can barely hold on to the ball
>Synchronized Diving
>Diving in general because for some reason 13 really likes not only it's diving headers but it's diving header clearing which cause wacky spaghetti
>Lob/Long Shot Goals are probably the most common I've seen them look
>Is similar to 21 for FKFG but it's more like 7/10 go in instead of 9/10.
>4-5-1 looks very good (/w/ are in the semis and running their Summer 19 auto)
There's probably more that someone more experienced in managing and isn't just a viewer could probably point out, but this is what I've seen.

I don't insult luckshitters.

Because I know if the day ever comes when I win, it'll be through luckshittery.

>>551793171
Yeah but they didn't win. Luck runs out in the finals.

Only one team has won against /1999/

>>551793265
don't put yourself down like that gio

>>551793394
and it wasn't even actual victory which makes it even funnier

>>551793171
Just because you don't like the team doesn't mean they are luckshitters thoughbeit.

>>551792916
>sangen feel bong please

>>551792916
>crimson already bitch

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>>551793394
That's how it usually is when a team wins the entire tournament, yes. Otherwise you'd need a 4 team group or a 9-3-3-3 miracle turning the table in the knockouts which I don't think ever happened

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>duane and the ytp duo removed from /wsg/

i hope they crash and burn in winter for that

>>551793837
broofs?

>>551793265
Same and I will act like the smugest cunt the more I get called luckshitter

>>551793823
/vrg/ weren't called luckshitters last season because it felt like they were genuinely good instead of being gifted the perfect path to victory AND lobotomized opponents.

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>>551793942
>>>/wsg/6052214

>>551793591
>even the cloud is simping for a sangen x bong arc
grim.

you were better than your opponents? this means you're luckshitting

>>551794289
/vrg/ were called cheaters instead because they cheated

>crimson appearing again just in time for a /y/ match
noooooooooticing

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https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_Rankings
I decided to BEE
Best mover: /1999/ (+55)
Worst mover: /lcg/ (-47)

>>551793823
>I don't think ever happened
Autumn 23 /sci/

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not on auties but give me your take on this /'ccg/.
(you may pick 2, but if you do, you have to elaborate on both)

biggest fraud team in VGL25:
>/gbfg/
>/lcg/
>/fng/
>/vrg/
>/kfg/
>/bag/
>/gfg/

>>551794565
elabor8

>>551794717
>Best mover: /1999/ (+55)
How do you move when you don't have a placement?

>>551794798
New and/or revived teams start with 0 points so automatically at the bottom of the ranking (which would be #56 as per the previous tournament's rankings).

>>551794746
/1999/ because they luckshitted against /hanny/. They didn't deserve to win.

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>>551794717
That's a record

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>>551794746
I will give you the true fraud team, the one people doesn't talk despite the hype they garnered early on.

>>551794636
The_Gayson_Man.

>>551795013
arguably a fraud team but the magnitude of their fraudulency doesn't quite hit the others' levels

>>551795013
GOOOOD MORNING SIR!!!

>>551794717
proofs?

>>551795013
Tops groups often. Hardly frauds more like chokers

hm today i will watch the final day of agl9

>>551794721
Oh shit you're right. I memoryholed that tournament I guess.
Well then there you go, a 32-team cup winner that lost to 2 teams, remarkable

>>551795237
*Scratches 10 am belly*
Good morning anon.

>>551794779
not that guy but they used modified auto-mentalities. for the databases on 17, the auto-mentality behaviour is set specifically to be +1 on possession and -1 out of possession. it's not supposed to be changed from that.
however, if you copy a teams tactics from the base game to your export, it copies over the auto-mentality behaviour, and some teams have things like +1 on possession but 0 out of possession, 0 on possession -1 out of possession, etc. for one of their survival round matches (i think it was here it was noticed at least), /vrg/ set up their auto-mentality to be +1 on possession and 0 out of possession. after the match they were told not to do it again and had their export reset back to the standard behaviour.
it's not explicitly against the rules but it's not intended and arguably against the spirit of the rules, and the council deemed it so themselves. whether its cheating is arguable as well, it's at least exploiting something.

>>551795013
They just got karma'd, shouldn't have let /pmmm/ die like that, and if they won, they would've gotten a better seed.

>>551796068
t. /pmmm/ gook

>>551796341
If I were him, I wouldn't complain about /pmmmmmmm/ dying.

>>551796068
:snaaOK:

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>>551794717
Bubble.

>>551789235
Based OP

>>551796965
You can't just call every league a bubble

>>551797146
this one is a bubble thoughbeitever

>>551797146
A league that myteam didn't win?
Bubble
A league that myteam won?
Legit and well deserved
Simple as.

>>551794746
>>/gbfg/
>>/lcg/
Long since exposed, not frauds because nobody expected anything
>>/fng/
Highly fraudulent, went from looking unstoppable to going out with a whimper against an actual decent team
>>/vrg/
I didn't watch the match vs /hrsg/ so it's hard to say, they did look great in groups and /hsrg/ was apparently decent this time so maybe not that fraudulent?
>>/kfg/
If we're to count their VGL24 performance, then yes, thoroughly exposed
>>/bag/
Hard to say. They looked good against weaker opposition, struggled against and admittedly good /vrg/, and had finalist /uma/ on the ropes for 45'. If their final loss happened while they were managed then I'd say maybe yes, but with the given circumstances, no.
>>/gfg/
Personally I've come to never believe in /gfg/ and treat their deep runs as lucky outliers, so I see this as a return to form rather than frauds being exposed

>>551797221
I said this

>>551794746
>/gbfg/
not frauds, just plain bad.
>/lcg/
they already frauded once, now they just solidifed that they got lucky.
>/fng/
this is just their group being dogshit, and losing to the first team that prepared vs them
>/vrg/
yeah they frauded pretty hard
>/kfg/
bigger fraud than /vrg/. from 2nd place to 0W2D1L
>/bag/
not fraud, unlucky that the manager wasn't present
>/gfg/
don't think they're frauds, losing to /smbg/ does make them look really bad though

my final pick is /kfg/. the BIGGEST frauds in VGL25.

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>>551793394
/gig/GODS...

>>551797675
what does this face mean

>>551797256
>/hsrg/ was apparently decent this time
I think alot of people slept on /hsrg/ because it was with the group stage demon that was /fng/, but consider that /hsrg/ lost by the least amount to /fng/ (3-1 vs /zzz/'s 4-0 and /lcg/'s 6-1), was able to shut out /vrg/ and looked alright defensively against /1999/ (/1999/ needed spaghetti and a corner for both of their goals).

>>551797852
/hsrg/ got that far ONLY because of a good keeper. Their offense was horrible.

/akg/ got lucky against /mggg/

>>551798065
Yeah that was the one problem with this /hsrg/, otherwise they likely would've came back against /fng/ to steel points away, put more on /vrg/ and pulled another comeback against /1999/.

>>551798124
a merc wrote this

>>551795771
>however, if you copy a teams tactics from the base game to your export, it copies over the auto-mentality behaviour, and some teams have things like +1 on possession but 0 out of possession, 0 on possession -1 out of possession
Holy shit, so that's what does it. I remember /gd/ running a 0/-1 automentality like 8 years ago and nobody (officially) knew what caused it back then, not even Incomeme

>>551798276
Not him but they got lucky against the snoggers as well

>>551797727
it means I'm aroused

>>551798124
And /mggg/ got lucky over /fg/

>>551798124
No one sees /akg/ as winners, they see /mggg/ as the victors instead, indeed.

>>551797852
They looked alright defensively vs /1992/ but their offense never showed up at all in that game. Even removing the spaghetti goal they should've at least gotten an equalizer.
>1(0) vs 1(1) at half and 5(1) vs 6(4) at the end of regulation

4 red medals vs purple one does not mean luck it's pure skill actually also conditions don't matter

/mggg/ didn't really lose. Neither did /xivg/.

>>551798675
Yeah but that was the story for alot of teams
>Good defense
>Offense kept either downing glue or needed glasses

>>551798676
Nice TED talk, Reso

ok enough about the shitters, rate the top 4

>>551798676
Red 99s don't matter, yes

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>>551798675
>8/7 quarters exit
honkeks got lucky that Denko gave them a good keeper. That's it. Really.

>>551799048
/xivg/, /mggg/, /u/ and /uma/

>>551799048
>/1999/
Made the best out of a dogshit ruleset
>/uma/
Gigafrauds who probably should've died in groups and likely would've lost to /bag/ if they were managed
>/akg/
Frauds who faced 3 (three) fucking autos on their way to the semis
>/alg/
I... I don't know. Their group was undoubtedly shit, but they somehow managed to beat /@/. I can't bring myself to call /alg/ good under any circumstance ever.

>>551799435
>everyone except /1992/ is a fraud!
She won't fuck you bro...

>>551799545
But she told me that I'm a very cute boy...

>>551799050
/akg/ ran four golds? big if true

>>551799048
>1999
Quickly understood that parking the bus was a legit strategy, switched from 3atb to 4atb and never looked back.
>uma
The nerves got to them incredibly quickly and decided to kill themselves instead of pausing for a second and think things over.
>akg
Should've never made it out of groups. gfg are the real shitters of Group B.
>alg
Their export was extremely limited on what it could do and quickly ran out of steam when shit hit the fan. Still happy about them for making it this far after so long, but the real test comes after this VGL. Can they keep it up? Only time will tell.

>>551799048
>/1999/
Hard to rate properly because there's no prior performance to also consider. They seemed to make very good changes in-game, though it came with great effort, but a lot of their games seemed very PES Wants Us to Win. Good team though, even if it was taking advantage of a ruleset every team uses the same ruleset so good on finding out what works on it. Not expecting a lot of continued success though, maybe HWC next VGL.
>/uma/ and /akg/
Easier to rate. Solid exports that were lifted further due to great live management and both hit the same wall of a team at the end. Are these two actually the same team? Performances that people have really expected of them for a bit now. Expecting another knockout appearance next VGL.
>/alg/
Would argue they were the best overall offense in the cup, especially after /fng/ crashed and burned. Being able to use a solid 4-3-3 will usually serve you well even if the team doesn't do a lot of live management. Should be around HWC2/RO16 next VGL.

>>551799748
Doc was always 2 manlets in a trenchcoat, this is common lore

>>551799748
/akg/ bringing those /ccpg/ strats to the league

>>551799435
/alg/ also beat /tf2g/ so there is that

>>551794746
/bag/ are always the biggest frauds

>>551800057
>/alg/ were the best overall offense
It's wild that we are in the timeline now where /alg/ has one of the best offenses and isn't a group stage shitter like usual.

>>551795771
>however, if you copy a teams tactics from the base game to your export, it copies over the auto-mentality behaviour
Technically automentalities are controlled by the same settings that are numbers in attack/defense in 15 and 16 so an external editor or even just a regular hex editor could set these for each preset of a team

>your team
Always frauds, never legit. Luckshitters and Denko rigged it for you.
>my team
Never frauds, Always legit. If they lose it's because the other team was Luckshitting.

>>551797256
>>551797394
/bag/ was running a copied /gfg/ export where /gfg/ crashed and failed. If anything, they lucked out to even get to HWC.

>>551800959
It's been like that since VGL24 btw, both luckshitted in that one.

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>>551794717
>wanted to try it myself but the pastebin gw gave leads to a 404
>started working on a ranking script from scratch 2 hours ago
>couldn't figure out how /dsg/ was ranked but got every other team's in VGL1
>check the thread
>someone else did it in the mean time
Oh well

>>551800959
You got a source on that?

>>551801042
This. /gfg/ hit a wall that their garbage tactics couldn't overcome. Meanwhile /bag/ gets to play against teams like /psg/ and /xivg/.

>>551801259
The /gfg/ manager during ASS

>>551793837
i mean to be fair, duane and deal with it arent posted as memes anymore, i will miss morshu though hes been a great meme mine

What if /bag/ just managed it better

>>551801115
that's weird, it worked just fine 2 days ago

What if SHUT UP

>>551801760
Do you have a copy of it?

>>551801828
nyo

>>551801547
More like luckshitted harder.

>>551802308
Sounds like cope to me

>>551802398
but enough about your dads life after your mom said she wouldnt go through with the abortion

no matter how I look at it, 1992 were just the protagonists of this tournament. Stealing the spotlight in all matches.

>>551802497
You are actually so mad lmao
Did you have trouble typing that through your tears?

>>551801259
>/gfg/ cries about /bag/ stealing an export in VGL25, /bag/ outranks them in VGL25
>/gfg/ doesn't cry about it back in VGL24 despite /bag/ looking very similar for VGL24 and VGL25, /bag/ doesn't outrank them in VGL24

>>551802308
raped

Assuming no change in teams or qualifier byes, the bottom 4 teams that will be sent to qualifiers for 26 will be (in order) /xivg/, /nikg/, /lcg/, and /gbfg/

>>551803329
/gig/'s chinese assassins will make sure that the team gets a bye next season, LUCKbellum the Blessed will avoid qualies again, Limbab will suck enough cocks to get out.

>>551801828
https://files.catbox.moe/gqw2dq.txt

>>551803329
I don't see how 43rd place is going to end up in qualies

>>551803329
@grok is this true?

>>551803329
>Assuming no change in teams
Well you shouldn't assume that because I know /pmmm/ is going to die.

>>551804709
/lilsis/ VGL23

>>551805509
And it will be replaced by clair obsqueer, trickcal, and diablo 4

>>551803329
now include /trick/ and /sora/ as new teams

>>551807080
>/sora/
I'll be surprised if this thing even lasts that long

>>551808598
M'ercentale will manage for 1-2 leagues before abandoning them

>>551803901
Assuming you're the guy who did the rankings update, I'm pretty sure /gig/ is supposed to have 150 points now. They're starting at 51, drew once and won once against teams ranked <=50 so they would gain 0.33 * 3 * 75 + 0.33 * 1 * 75 = 99 points. I checked with every other team that died in qualifiers and I was able to get what you got

>>551808598
I would think that it lasts 6 months to reach VGL26.

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/gflex/ when?

>>551809590
just like with /wuwa/, they have shown interest but don't have anyone who wants to BEE

Who is the Josh Allen of 4cc/VGL

>>551809819
Doesn't help that /gflex/ moves slow enough that you have to wonder why don't they just merge back with /gfg/.

>>551809905
Hope

>>551809432
Yep you're right, I didn't see I marked their game against /hdg/ as a loss and not a draw. Should be better now.

>>551794717
Qualifier teams seem way higher than they should be, I don't care how shit /gbfg/ are, there isn't a world where they are worse than /llsifg/ and /pcrg/.

>>551810363
The way 4cc/VGL rankings work favors teams that don't lose, /gbfg/ did not lose a single game in their last two leagues (which was a draw) while /llsifg/ drew 4 times in the same time frame.

>>551810890
It should favor winning more. 2w 1L gets treated worse than just drawing a bunch of games.

>>551810363
>there isn't a world where they are worse than /llsifg/
there is and you're living in it

>>551810363
I want to see /gbfg/ - /pcrg/ just to see who is actually worse

>>551810363
I think theyare worse than every qualifiers team right now.

>/u/ is playing better on a pes13 memevitational as an autopilot then they have been all 2025
Humiliation ritual for the eslking council.

>>551813280
Epicc11 you remind me of sgbong when he started watching 4cc

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flat

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>>551814012
The best girl from Shtidoka.

>>551811240
>2w 1L gets treated worse than just drawing a bunch of games
That depends a lot on the team you're facing, winning against a bottom-ranked shitter is prone to earn you less ranking points than drawing the previous cup champs.
In general the system is a mixed bag. Back when rankings mattered for 4cc it sometimes led to completely unbalanced groups, which is partly why the 4cc moved on to using previous cup placement for seeding.

>>551802804
>/gfg/ manager
>Crying about a team he likes performing well
I find that hard to believe

>>551813736
what you mean? bong has been around longer than alex

>>551809590
Someone make all the models and I will caretake the team.

>>551815284
O AESCO

>>551810363
raped by aryanstew and the corpse known as Juan

Massage po kayo sir

>>551814140
Ojisan destroyer

for the wiki autist
remember to update this page as well for rankings
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League

I'm beat.

niggers

Why didn't they add :beebspc: to the emote vote?

ASS Rentry?

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>>551820361

>>551820361
They were later in the week this VGL than usual. Probably gonna take 2 weeks for the final one to drop.

>>551820361
Final ASS was eleven hours long, nobody can't stomach that much shit at once.

>>551821465
@grok do it

>>551818693
nicely done anon, great tournament you held

>>551821465
just skip shitpost box.

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>>551809432
>>551810234
>0.33 for teams <=50
/drg/ was treated as 57th place for VGL24.

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>>551822217
Here's what I got using some python autism which mostly agrees with what you got barring small differences like when rounding happened. I used 287 as the starting point for /alg/ which I got from going back in time and calculating the change in points with each league

>>551823162
I prefer this one for reasons

gw could have been making shit up about rankings this entire time and vglco never would have known.

>>551794717
Top ranked teams with the fewest points starting from VGLX
>2107 - /2hug/ (after VGL21)
>2176 - /1999/ (after VGL25)
>2279 - /utg/ (after VGL23) (/lcg/ is ranked 2nd at this time with 2209 points)
>2348 - /lzg/ (after VGL13)
>2364 - /vrg/ (after VGLX)
>2419 - /gbfg/ (after VGL22)

>>551823162
My point is that the method isn't (exactly) what it says on the wiki.

>>551823162
Thanks for double checking my stuff, you made me realize that Excel decided to fuck up some of my formulas so some of the rankings weren't quite correct, so I fixed them on the wiki.
I will look into the rest tomorrow but the spreadsheet I'm using (4cc ranking sheet from ~2016 iirc) seems to practice a lot of intermediate rounding so that's probably why some of the math is off. If you feel your version is closer to what gw actually did than mine then feel free to overwrite it.

>>551826896
>2279 - /utg/ (after VGL23)
And they haven't won a single game since then

>>551826896
so /2hug/ is the fraudiest while /gbfg/ is the realest

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>>551826369
>could have been

>>551826896
coming top of a 4444 group really killed any chance of /2hug/ getting ELO in 21

>Auties does not include /akg/ loss in semis for biggest upset

>>551828607
You were not supposed to point that out.

>>551828607
you'd have to include basically every single match starring 1992.

>tfw "employee of the month" is now both a MHA AND a FGO meme

>>551831142
Ok how u know

>>551828607
Stop noticing

>>551827416
Rankings don't matter, it reflects low group stage points any team that wins a cup/league on a WDL group stage performance will have shit final numbers. The more fraudulent winners are /gbfg/ who had a mickey mouse formation ban ruleset and /lcg/'s run that was fraudulent the entire way through with nearly every match having a question mark of frauding it.

>>551828607
KWAB

>>551828607
@kwaboty_commitee is it too late to add a nomination?

>>551828607
How is the expected result an upset?

>>551833646
You're not gonna tell me that you expected a brand-new team possibly managed by a foid to win against a veteran and a former champion FOUR-FUCKING-ZERO

>>551833523
Yes, come back next December

>>551833769
Yes I did expect a team with an impenetrable defense to beat a team that had failed to advance from a group stage in two years

>>551833769
Why? Everyone kept complaining about how lucky /akg/ was and how they actually sucked. No wonder they got blown up sooner or later

/1999/ BEGGING for free auties instead of earning them like everyone else

You know, I wonder who is actually behind the kwaboty committee trip.

It's troonysoup

>>551834208
They earned them throughout the tournament, it's just that it seems to be too shameful to be on the receiving end and makes me wonder who begged not to put it onto the list.

>>551833769
Said veteran and former champion has outright sucked for several VGLs in a row, was lucky to avoid qualifiers during all that time, and in even in their latest top 4 run they looked unconvincing at best and outright fraudulent at worst (>three fucking autopilots)
So yes, them getting blown up by /1999/ was expected

>>551834703
People keep acting like /akg/ is an unbeatable behemoth of a team on par with the 90s Chicago Bulls when they have died in group stages for two years in a row

To be honest, /akg/ beating /alg/ was the bigger upset. Why wasn't that on the auties?

>>551835126
>3rd place match
who cares

>>551835434
The third place match is very important. We could've had a Sex medal.

>>551834491
my sides if it's tma

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>>551833769
/akg/ was sent to spain during friendlies lol

Just because your team got raped by mid /akg/ it doesn't mean you got to have a grudge against them. Also, you're already used to getting raped; it happened to you multiple times last league even.

>>551835584
friendlies don't count (unless it's /alter/'s humiliation ritual)

>>551835095
For some reason the era of the VGL that's permanently ingrained even in the minds of newfags is the period from like VGL15-VGL18. Same thing happens with /hgg2d/.

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>>551835584
no wonder GuyF keeps having a fucking seizure at anything /akg/ does when he spanks the team every single time but has to watch in the cuckchair while /akg/ wins a 3rd place trophy

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>>551834208
I beg for her to come and fuck my wife.

>>551836690
Does the hat stay on?

>>551835095
That's called aura

>>551836746
i'll forcibly put it on if this bitch takes it off

I found out yesterday that ba has a big hat slut but there is barely any porn of her out there

>>551835534
Yet another made up award given to himself

>I found out yesterday that ba
stopped reading there

>arkwabs were the worst team in the knockouts, they luckshitted out of the groups and only won against autopilots
>arkeks losing the semifinal is the biggest upset of the year, for a team with such expectations to lose to literal nobody was very unexpected
Which one is it

>>551837347
Both. Many teams would kill for a path to finals as free as this and they wasted it

>>551837009
Can't be TMA there isn't enough rule changes

>>551837932
He would also use the most complicated voting system known to man instead of first past the post

Who would be the funniest person to turn out to be KWABoTY_Official or whatever it was?

>>551838317
boris

>>551838317
zoer

>>551837686
only retards who have never managed or overestimate themselves say this because the only "easy" auto was /smbg/. /snowg/ 9 pointed their group and gave an incredible fight while /mggg/ was a -1 mentality 5atb wall that conceded only 3 times in 5 matches, didn't lose a single time and also beat the god auto that won against 2nd place in groups.
People just see an auto and go "wow that's so easy I would beat them blindfolded" when in reality it would smack them around

reddit hours

>>551838317
Tenko

>>551838653
The problem with /snowg/ is that it nine pointed a group of retards that could not win a single game.

>>551838653
A team with two managers with several accolades between themselves that have worked together for a long time and generally know PES and had at least a day of prep should not be losing to an autopilot in any universe. I don't think there is a single team in the VGL that is more likely to beat an autopilot than /akg/, and that's why it was so free for them.

>>551836998
>there is barely any porn of her out there
You are not looking hard enough because even by BA standards she got a lot for how long she's been in the game
Hell, she's getting a bunch of doujin this comiket, too

>>551838942
going by that same logic /mggg/ only fought retards and another auto until it found itself going against /akg/

Speaking of the 9-2-2-2 group, has anyone ever went on to win an entire cup or even memevitational by being the good two in a 9-2-2-2?

>>551839085
And that is correct. It's humiliating to lose to a defensive auto.

>>551838952
You make it sound like a demerit against /akg/ when "only team that can beat autos 90% of the time" should be a notch in their belt. The 3 autos they played combined for only 3 losses which were all to /akg/, which is both a credit to them and a knock against VGL managers who all just seem to shit and die against defensive autos.

>>551839170
9-2-2-2 hasn't happened in 4CC but it's happened twice in VGL with this league and in 21. In both cases the advancing teams made it no further than the Round of 16

>>551839170
Win no, not that I'm aware of at least. But /fgg/ were runners up in VGLX from a 9-2-2-2. The three other 9-2-2-2s in VGL history thank you for asking were VGL13 /indie/ (lost in SR1, still made /vg/ roster), VGL21 /nikg/ (won twice before losing in the round of 16), and VGL25 /ksg/ (lost in HWC1).
For some other odd combinations, off the top of my head there was Autumn 23 /sci/ who won after a 9-3-3-3, Spring 20 /d/ who won after a 5-3-3-2 (3 draws), VGL21 /2hug/ who won after a 4-4-4-4, and VGL2 (lost media) /dng/ who won after a 9-3-3-3.

>>551839564
It's not their fault that they are one of the very few teams where that is an entirely free path, but it is the case regardless. /akg/ going through a path of tough autopilots is more fraudulent than any other team going through a path of tough autopilots.

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>>551840396

A 3-3-3-3 group has never happened, right?

>>551840916
retard

>>551841082
why

>>551840916
no because it's impossible

>>551840396
>it's only fraudulent when /akg/ does it

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>>551840396
This would be much easier for all of us if you just stopped pretending and said that you hate the team openly for no real reason

>>551841082
>>551841178
A 3-3-3-3 group means every match was a draw you mongoloids

>>551840916
Correct, neither in the VGL nor the 4cc
>>551841178
Every game is a draw bro. Entirely possible.

>>551841184
There's other teams where it's fraudulent (/utg/ not being able to beat an autopilot was really fucking pathetic), but /akg/ stands above them.
>>551841257
I don't hate /akg/ more than I hate any other gacha team that I know nothing about. I honestly would've preferred them to win out of any teams in the top 4. There's just different standards to be applied to teams with different strengths.

>>551838653
yes bob the teams /akg/ faced were the hardest and conditions don't matter and autos are unstoppable. congrats on getting out of groups

We've reached the point where a team is fraudulent because they are good

>>551841772
just like /lcg/ huh?

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>>551841772
Any competence ever shown by a team I dislike is fraudulent

>>551841772
if a team has a particular strength, and their entire run consists of teams that happen to be weak to that particular strength, then the run is more fraudulent

>>551841772
team's a fraud if
>it wins vs teams /4ccg/ doesn't like
>it wins in a way /4ccg/ doesn't like
>it's led by someone /4ccg/ doesn't like
even if you somehow pass through all 3 you're still a fraud because you probably luckshitted

4redmedalsbro btw

>>551842187
>>551842102
trvkes

notice how /4ccg/ isnt talking about the /u/ tournament win that was today

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Was it fraudulent?

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>>551842676
It was mentioned breifly, but it was a memevitational, what do you expect?

>>551842131
the problem is that for some godforsaken reason people overrate the fuck out of /akg/. If they hadn't gotten into the bottom bracket the top bracket would have been called fraudulent instead. It doesn't matter who they face because their strength will always be seen as higher as literally anyone. And if they do beat an opponent that is stronger it is still fraudulent because that would be luckshitting

>>551843238
post made by a kotnigger

>>551843238
Bigly

>>551843238
Kot would have won bigly in my timeline

>>551843238
>Intentional throw tactics in groups like "Make my formation a fumo" and "Use my gold on the keeper"
>Absolute riggery by the streamer for quarters
>Semi against a manager who was literally blind

Yes

/gbfg/ still didn't update their wiki while their manager has a daily meltdowns over jews on the 'cord
10am breakfast chud will not address this

>on the 'cord
:eslking:

>>551843981
on the board
in a thread
on discord
in a channel

you stupid chud

>>551844162
retard

>>551844247
no you

>>551843817
>while their manager has a daily meltdowns over jews on the 'cord
Based

>>551843817
>10am breakfast chud
new vgl preshow

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>>551842676
>/u/ is so ass that they will celebrate when they win a meme tournament on PES 13 where everything was done by one guy in his PC

>in his PC
:eslking:

>not putting the letters in the right order
:egiklns:

my favorite futa artist drew brown dust fanart

>>551845660
share it, streakie

>>551845660
Thanks for the information Freakie, really cool.