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The Nightmare is Ongoing...>>551877302


>Roadmap Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCuVfILlh4
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>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Check the Rentry
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fuck angel robots
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>pulling the ribbon in the full animation
what a slut
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1. get sereniel to e6 so I can farm cubes for rin dupes
or
2. wait for narja
?
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>>551985335
if you want to whale for sereniel just get e2
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>>551985335
You do love your waifus right?
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Why does that nigger nihilum keep picking this fucking card
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Bros... I was regretting skipping Yuki and she spooked me on standard banner. I'm so happy!
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>>551985967
But she's bad.
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>>551986025
mei lin has always been shit in chaos, she's a one-trick pony while sereniel is a one-woman army
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>>551986114
Mei Lin is one of the few characters that works with basically every epi though pretty much like Sereniel. People are just mindbroken by her infinite kicky feet, the other epis are also good
With some fates you can do like 6-7 hit strikes
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>>551985386
already got e2
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>>551986114
Sereniel literally solo carries 9/9 bosses, chaos runs with shit decks, and greater rift with little effort.
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>>551986682
speaking of which, can Sereniel kill 9/9 bosses in 1 turn like Chizuru / Mei Lin / Rin?
I don't doubt it just never tried
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how do mei lincels reckon with the fact she's old and busted and useless now that sereniel exists and is
>hotter and better suited to birth my children
>also infinitely stronger than chinkyminky
are they all just gonna kill themselves now?
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>>551986956
>conveniently forgets boss has built-in Mei Lin nerfs
>passion controller/support still not out
Do not challenge us.
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>Decide to run Hugo with Yuki
>Not half bad, actually
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>>551987305
>he knotted his yuki
yikes
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Newbro here. Playing without Sereniel must have been awful.
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>>551987445
not really, you had tressa who was 1000x more powerful in previous content than sereniel
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>>551987445
none of the content really needed her power. I even effortlessly cleared this basin without her
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>>551987305
don't say the names of m*le units please you'll trigger the skinnyfat onions people who get insecure seeing attractive men in video games. please censor them completely using asterisks, thank you.
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>>551987038
>conveniently forgets boss has built-in Mei Lin nerfs
Real talk, are they just gonna keep doing this to every boss from now on? Because Mei Lin will forever remain the boss-killer GOAT unless they nerf her but I don't think they would get away with nerfing a 5-star like they did with the announcement of Tressa's nerf.
Especially because Mei Lin is a chinkwank character. Chinks would fucking RIOT and they are very good at it.
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>>551987502
tressa struggled to get 1M and that was with the healing / defense stuff, sereniel is already at 1.4M
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>>551987538
first basin was hell without maxed out units
month 1 when everyone was not yet lv50+ and leveling a unit to 60 costed nearly 6 million credits, most people didn't complete basin 10 that was lv60 enemies
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>>551987585
You think furries are attractive?
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>>551987613
yeah 7-hit max is the standard for main bosses now
its the only way to indrectly nerf her
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>>551987502
Tressa has a higher ceiling than Sere but Sere is infinitely more consistent and while Tressa is honestly pretty bad in chaos, Sere effortlessly rolls over every run.
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>>551987613
how about you try to do the content without cheesing it
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>>551987674
did i stutter, skinnyfat onions nigger?
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>>551987628
I was about to give up and not get my 30/30, then I leveled up a certain rei of light and she saved my ass. Shes great
>>551987613
As a Mei Lin enjoyer I would be perfectly fine with a 7 hit limiter like the bosses had. 7+ is needed just to cheese weekly bosses like Judas, everything else dies pretty quickly with 7 hits.

But I wouldn't be surprised if that limiter stays permanently. Some games like to give "boss" status effects that have a bunch of generic buffs listed on them and 7+ hits limit could be one of them. That way you don't make the gachakeks angry
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>>551987742
>play the game as intended
>cheesing it
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>>551987774
>unironic furfag
yikes, i guess you don't get to pick your taste but still
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>>551987814
sorry but the damage reduction on multiple hits clearly signals that was not how the game was intended to be played
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>>551985851
Because you touch yourself at night and because you don't remove it the instant you get it
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>>551987585
TRVKE
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it's not that every boss will nerf mei lin from now on
they're just gonna rotate who gets to trivialize the boss each season, to keep things fresh and players engaged
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>>551987585
>I'm a faggot furry nigger
This is what he tries to say
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>>551988173
exactly, and now they are fixing their mistakes
and that makes you seethe uncontrollably, even though that's what they should do, what you would demand them to do and what would be best for the game
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>>551988234
>tressa literally only used to enable hugo now
you lost and got raped
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>>551987585
You're attracted to furries?
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>shartynigger ITT
>at this hour
oh no no no no
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>>551988237
The best thing for the game is to leave everything be and let people play what they want to play. This just isn't the best thing for their wallets because they created two incredibly powerful characters at launch who can't be powercrept so the whaleshitters can't feel special about whaling for the latest characters to distinguish themselves from the plebs with rankings as long as they remain unchecked.
And you're probably one of these assmad whaleshitters whose only accomplishment in life is spending stupid amounts of money in games to feel special.
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>hey this character doing good?
>watch this next boss that is immune to whatever that character does!
>oh, an here is the new banner that actually just rapes this seasons' boss!
It is literally the create problem sell solution 101 you learn in the first hour of your niggerass business course in college. This is not some kind of bandaid they slap on bosses to fix the meta. This is actually how they will proceed going forward. They never expected this game to do well. Some autists just made a deckbuilder and Smilegate just converted it into a gacha, with all the bad gacha shit shoven into it.
>b-but the anime cutscenes! it is such a high quality overall, there is no way they thought it wouldnt make money!
No, newfag retard. SG always had talented animators. Just like Blizzard always had talented 3D animators for their trailers. Some company can do them for cheap because they have the talent, its literally that easy.
>okay, lets say i believe all of this. now what?
Well, be ready for the Tressa and Cass nerfs. Be ready for next seasons' boss to have a gimmick against Sereniel. Every other boss will have some shit that invalidates both Sereniel and Mei. And add the new limited next season to that. And the limited next season. And the half-anni limited, too. This will be convoluted as fuck. Bosses will have the weirdest conditionals and be ready to read their lists of bullshit they immune to in a few months. They will never fix the actual gameplay balancing problems before fixing the story. The new story might need another round of work after they push it out. It will probably suck hard and they gotta need to rework it again. They dont know how to write ML that feels good. They only know how to write shipniggershit, because they love shipping.
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>>551988491
no? the best thing for the game is for them to fix the game, retard
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>>551988671
There was nothing to fix until they added their dogshit whalebait ladder.
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>>551988663
sounds like a skill issue
people loved gunsmoke frontline in gf[[[""((L))""]]]2 because it constantly rotated weaknesses, buffs, conditionals and mechanics to invalidate previous dolls and prop up that season's limited doll
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>>551988663
>Some autists just made a deckbuilder and Smilegate just converted it into a gacha, with all the bad gacha shit shoven into it.
Wrong, you retard. Someone made a roguelite dungeon explorer with turn-based combat focused on cards and Smilegate converted it into a gacha with all the bad gacha shit shoved into it. Get it right.
>also doomposting about leaderboard shit
I don't understand, I'll just take my 500k white sticker and leave. It's not my problem if sweatlords are sweating.
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>>551988663
This game was heavily shilled and ha a lot o effort put in the animations. Smilegate clearly wants it to be their new flagship gacha because E7 is too old which is why the drama scared them shitless.
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>>551988491
They can't allow characters to have semi-infinites or they'd have to design everything around them.
>but Sereniel
Much more limited in design and self-contained unlike Mei Tressa and Cassius
>>551988734
>There was nothing to fix until they added their dogshit whalebait ladder.
Cheesing bosses is still dumb
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>>551988854
according to this general their flagship is meant to be miresi tho
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>>551988771
I have never seen a GFL fag said that they love gunsmoke.
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>>551988854
They changed this story of timetravel because their actual flagship nikkekiller is timetravel, too
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>>551988771
>people loved gunsmoke frontline
...is what you would say if you came from /gflex/ instead of /gfg/.
>>551988893
>according to this general
/czn/ is one guy, apparently.
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>>551988945
>They changed this story of timetravel
play the game
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>>551988771
kek glad to see some /gfg/ oldfags jumper ship after whatever they tried to pull with gf2. but yes, if SG does the same shit with the leaderboards here then its owari dayo
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>>551988870
>Cheesing bosses is still dumb
Again, this isn't "cheesing," you don't know the meaning of words and this only became a """problem""" with the addition of their dogshit whalebait ladder. You can stop any time, whaleschizo retard. You are wrong and you "people" have been getting blown the fuck out every since the announcement of Tressa's nerf. Final (You) since I know you are a mentally ill faggot you who just refuses to accept he's wrong.
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>>551989067
Oh, i know you didnt. Because that epilogue was shoved in last minute.
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>>551989179
It's still there and would've been the main plot device, it was supposed to be the epic reveal

Point is, what I'm saying is that their new game is time travel shit too because they have 0 ideas
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>>551988663
>t. assblasted MLggot
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>>551989260
ML pays the bills as long as it's not egregious like Snowbreak or Nikke. I'll take PGR or HI3 Captainverse levels of pandering.
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It feels so nice to only play this game for the roguelike mode and not give a rat's ass about anything else.
Didn't touch the first rift, not gonna touch this rift either (have e2 Sere btw).
It feels so fucking nice.
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>>551988771
>gunsmoke leaderboards
>with guild leaderboards too
i-is this our future..?
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>>551989364
Just get it for the 500k sticker and reward, gold looks better anyway
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>>551989364
you can just get your 500k for the rewards and fuck off really
it's completely pointless

I guess the current meta deck requires "skill" because of the hand size limit fucking you up so there's an appeal in getting a high score but it's also an extremely RNG reliant deck too (imagine not getting cassius' quest turn 1) so it's just a matter of grinding there too on top of grinding for good save data
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>>551989359
Yeah, keep paying for Owen's condoms. Oh wait, he doesn't use any.
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>>551989601
Your fetish MINDBROKE you.
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How do I build her properly?
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>>551985270
Where is her bush??
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>>551989359
Snowbreak still makes money. It makes most revenue on PC so it doesn't reflect on the memechart.
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>>551989423
>he doesn't know about the e-sports
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>indians woke up
>pubeshit begins
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>>551989668
You pump her with cum
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>>551989668
You want the AoE shield conversion and $10 for the Barricade partner
Alternatively wait for the shield support that will unbrick vanguards
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>>551989601
they literally made owen a little shota cuckold who has no spine at all specifically to not upset people like you and you're still mindbroken by him just existing
holy fuck i forgot how bad the audience was for normalfag gacha games. you need therapy
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>>551989668
First you get a chair and then you watch as she fucks everyone in her squad.
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>>551989484
It's actually quite consistent due to Joker dupes.
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They really need to add crystal rewards ASAP to leaderboards. I'm tired of reading "I'll just do 500k and be done" over and over again. Clearly this end game doesn't have enough motivation yet. I want to see tryhard tears and seething
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>>551990142
SG devs would get murdered over night.
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>>551989990
Read Kingsoft's reports, xis. You lost.
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>>551990142
It doesn't matter, I'd still only do 500k.
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>>551987585
>>551987379
>Noooo don't use the characters that you have that are in the game and available to use

>>551990142
I just slap it up with the game between other games.
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>he leveled homos
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>>551990259
>YEAH BRO THIS CHINESE COMPANY IS TOTALLY TELLING THE TRUTH

>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY FUCKED UP LIKE 12 TIMES ALREADY WITH THEIR GAME

>N-NO THE GAME IS GREAT SERIOUSLY THEY SAY IT MAKES BIG BUCKS TOO

>THE REVENOO IS THROUGH THE ROOF!!!!
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>>551990405
By virtue of being the highest budget title released before Genshin. If you release Arknights in 2025 it wouldn't last a year.
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>>551990523
Yeah, so? I got my Master's badge while you didn't. That means I'm better than you in ever aspect of life.
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>>551990565
>i-its totally fake! not like my chart with inaccurate data!
ML broke you and will continue breaking you.
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Rerolled for a while and finally got a Sereniel, what should my team be for now? Been doing Sereniel, Selena and Mika.
Should I have rerolled for a Veronica instead and then pulled Sereniel later with newcutie pulls?
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>>551990405
By releasing mega retarded characters for brainlets to be able to keep up. The extra game modes mostly suck and the story is fucking atrocious.
t.Played for 5 years.
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>>551990405
>makes endfield
yeah, they didn't do it because they weren't greedy, they did it because they can't change anything now without suffering severe losses.
they WANT shit SSR rates, weapon banners, and inter-playerbase competitiveness.
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>>551990794
>he says

>while posting in CZN
lole
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>>551990390
N-N-NOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>551990405
>(you) getting cucked
LMAO
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>>551990142
>Hello everyone, SC here. We've received constant feedback of how everyone despises the Hall of Trials from E7, so we have decided to implement it here as well.
>From now on, underperforming units (meaning whoever we like at the moment) will be receiving special equipment that will improve parts of their kit, and you will get currency to buy it only by getting high scores in the leaderboard. Suck it.
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>>551988663
I am always curious when I see one of you "people" post this, what ARE the current gameplay issues? Unless you answer is that too many Epiphanies suck (one of the best things about Sereniel is almost all of her Epiphanies are useful) I'll just call out your mental illness and move on. Not that every Roguelike has perfect balance but I think some characters, like Cassius, should not have their core mechanic be so obnoxious.
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>>551990887
>3D = more production value.
Arknights clearly had good money put in the OST production, voice acting, gameplay design and most importantly marketing. Even the 2D chibishit was more detailed than most other game at the time.
HI3 was shovelware tier in comparison.
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>>551990405
>how does she do it?
By supporting lgbt
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>>551990405
>megagay
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>>551990142
Are you blind? The NERFS BAD nigger is so ass lasted by the upcoming hit to his leaderboard crutch he has been botting the thread 24/7
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>>551991174
grim
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>>551991070
Another one is rift is shilled way to hard to the banner unit. Sereniel is incredibly good, I don't see why you need to make it so people can't use Mei Lin or Luke at all on rearguard.
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>>551991116
You are full of horseshit. I remember quiting AK because I emptied like 200 rolls and not getting Ines at her launch banner and there's no protection. It's as scummy as anything else. Endfield broke new ground in greed, i will give you that.
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>>551990405
You forgot
>33% chance to get a limited
>old limiteds never get rerun and are practically unobtainable except for the 300 spark
>abysmal dogshit pull income
>insanely time consuming
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>>551990889
You are the one who started seething about it unprompted. You should go back to your containment board.
And yes, devs want to wash their hands of the Owen drama and add more sluts. Clearly your kind isn't the target audience.
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>>551991358
You being a lucklet doesn't constitute as the game being scummy. You're just a lucklet, that's the problem.
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>>551991358
NTA but I prefer having a decent SSR rate and currency gain over Mihomo giving enough currency to get 1 "SSR" every patch cycle (and you can get spooked anyway) whose knees are shattered unless you get their designated "gacha equipment" AND the inevitable BiS support that only works with them.
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>PTO
>wake up
>open 4chan, catch up with the latest concern
>grind some chaos
comfy
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i started yesterday and i got these from free mail pulls. Is this any good?
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>latelet problems
>Just buy a house before the housing crisis
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>>551991701
>DOESNT COUNT

>DOESNT COUNNTTT

>DOESNT FUCKING COUNT

>ARKNIGHTS IS THE PERFECT GAME

>I FUARKING LOVE MY FURRY SHIT

>THE FEMCEL PANDERING STORY IS THE BEST THERE IS
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>>551991810
>controller
I CANT WAIT FOR S3 FOR KEYBINDS AIEEEE WHO THE FUCK PLAYS SLAY THE SPIRE WITH MOUSE
EVEN THE SPED UP FUNCTION WOULDNT BE THIS ASS IF I COULD HOLD A KEY TO ACTIVATE IT
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>>551991701
>it very f2p friendly actually!
>says man that wasted $200 on pngs
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>>551991823
No, she's a brick. Reroll for Hugo instead.
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One thing Arknights do right that they give a stam pot everyday if you have the pass on. I'm shocked that CZN doesn't do thism
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>>551991823
Not only you got the best unit in the game (soon) but also her best support all at once.
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>>551991823
bricked, reroll for maribell
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>>551991943
Struck a nerve?
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>>551991996
Fuck no that's a giga monkey's paw
Their events are all stamina based and if you're not a paypiggy if you don't hoard every stamina pot you can get and spend literally every single point of stamina on the event you end up giga bricked by being unable to buy out the event shop
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NEWS JUST DROPPED
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>>551991943
I know this is going to break your simple SEAnigger mind but you can criticize Arknights for the story and its aesthetics while acknowledging that it is a very good, fair and affordable gacha game.
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Can I bring the retarded firepower girl and remove every card so she only has the draw 3?
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>>551992360
>it is a very good, fair and affordable gacha game.
Yeah, except it isn't lol.

Fucking Epic7 is more generous than that furshit kusoge.
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>>551992365
You can empty a character's deck completely so yes, you need conversion events however

I've never done it theres probably some youtube guide online
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>>551992332
WHAT ARE THESE RETARDS DOING
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>>551990405
Bwo your game director is crossdresser
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a decent t15
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>>551992664
>it's real
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Khalipe is probably making it no matter what I am not sure about the last one though.
Either Renoa is Haru I guess? I feel quite indifferent towards Haru and I kinda pity Reno so her I guess?
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>>551992725
Except it is OBJECTIVELY not.
Anyways, shouldn't you be busy reading AO3 fanfics of your game's guys and girls getting it on while you watch? Or all the stuff where (You) are a woman and SilverAsh and Flamebringer fuck you up the fartbox together.

Also, I really hope Hypergryph pays you for being such a shill.
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>>551992964
Tier 14 is the highest, then you get DT and go to tier 15 for a total of 180 points
Usually it has absurd modifiers, anon got pretty lucky with that one
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>>551992664
>nerfing a limited after people already whaled
Are they retarded?
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>>551992957
>Noooo it doesn't matter that it has no weapon or any kind of secondary gacha, it doesn't matter that kit/functionality isn't locked behind dupes and getting a single copy of a character unlocks them at 99% of their power, it doesn't matter that it has good income generation, it doesn't matter that the base SSR rate is 2% with scaling pity that averages 1 SSR every 60-70 rolls, it doesn't matter that there is no whalebait content in the game IT ALL DOESN'T MATTER, OKAY...?! I CAN'T GET LIMITED CHARACTERS AS SOMEONE WHO STARTED THE GAME 3 YEARS AFTER LAUNCH SO IT FUCKING SUCKS AND IT'S THE WORST THING EVER!!!!! I ALSO GOT UNLUCKY ONCE AND THAT MEANS IT'S A TERRIBLE, GREEDY SCAM!!!! IT JUST IS OKAY???
This is how mentally ill you sound.
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>>551993507
uh oh Arknigger melty!
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>>551984601
Thanks, that’s very informative,
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>>551991948
How do you play these games with anything BUT a mouse?
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>>551989668
are pubes SFW?
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>>551992740
>fort
giga brickable
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>>551993462
C'mon don't act like it's a surprising move
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>>551993692
Playing StS on the Switch in bed was comfy as fuck.
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>>551993784
its just hair bro
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>>551993784
no, but there is a special kind of person at this time on this general
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>>551989803
Fuck yes, give some barricade-like power to the vanguards and they are back
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>>551993784
Funnily enough, no. That image is very much NSFW. If you report it it's gonna get deleted. But if you removed the pubes it would suddenly become SFW. It doesn't make sense.
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>>551988976
The fuck you talkin about even the gflex platoon doesn’t like gunsmoke much, otherwise why would everyone be fine with autoing it? Almost nobody bothers playing it except maybe when it;s a new boss for a week.
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>>551989807
nta but Owen should exist only as girl
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>>551994090
yes but as a loli
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>>551993853
I didn't even know there was a switch version. I can't really play turn based games on the controller anymore because of how slow it feels.
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>>551993978
that's because pubic hair is inherently erotic, like the existence of the hair itself. not the location.
much like the pussy itself is erotic, while a smooth barbie doll groin wouldn't be.
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>>551993784
It's natural just like God intended
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>>551994165
Make her chest bigger and i'm sold
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Bros, this should be okay right? Missing a good epi on laser and better equips but it should be fine, right?
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>>551994358
this.
hair, especially pubic hair, is a sign of maturity in a woman and by default makes her a lot more attractive.

a clean shaven woman does not.
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Where's our new year gibe?
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>>551993787
Sereniel doesn't care about fortitude because she kills everything in 1-2 turns.
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>>551994457
Wasted and ruined. Sorry for you bro.
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>see naked woman

>clean, shaven, pure

>"WTFFFF!!!!!! THIS WOMAN NEEDS MORE HAIR A MASSIVE BIG BUSH AND ARMPIT AND ASS HAIR THAT SMELLS OF SWEAT PISS AND SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>551994543
Probably getting a Chinese New Year event.
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>>551994645
>ARMPIT AND ASS HAIR
thats all you projecting buddy
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>jumps straight into piss and shit territory
Melty incoming.
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>>551994645
Do you really expect people that frequent gacha generals to be mentally stable with non-degenerate fetishes?
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>some pubes are fine
>more pubes are fine
>bushes are fine
>vintage-style full-on jungles are fine
>butthole hair is fine
>armpit hair is fine
you hare here
>chesthair on women is fine
>licking hairy nostrils is fine
>hairy earlicking is fine
>eating pubes is fine
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>>551994758
its so easy to make him have a melty, post some hair and he goes bananas. a true schizo
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>>551994645
>Shaven women
>Pure
Anon...I...
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>>551994457
she works with any epi. however if you want SUPER MEGA SCORE then hit the mines again
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>>551994909
True kek I don't have horse on this race I just love triggering schizo
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>>551994826
Where does eating period blood fall into this chart?
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I only started liking pubes after being in a 5 year relationship with a girl who had a massive untrimmed bush, so I think anti-pubes schizo is a virgin.

And I didn't like armpit hair, but then I spent a month in the jungle with some people, and one of the girls began sexualizing her own armpit hair growth, and she was already attractive. She'd stand around with her newly hairy armpits exposed, and when she caught me looking, she'd give me the eyes and gently glide her fingers over the hair.

I don't like shaved girls, and I don't like shaved armpits also. I'm simply a pubic hair and armpits enjoyer. I do like the occasional dicks, I do like men, and I do like other body hair on girls, such as her ass.
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>next node is the end boss
>no shining core
lol
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Is there any value in killing aether eater after maxing out zero system upgrades?
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>>551995148
>Pussy hair
it's called pubes
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>>551995117
>actual faggot
>like pubes and arm pit hair
tracks
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>>551994826
>>551995117
kino posts
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I like how shavedfags has no idea that they're falling for psyop made by shaving company.
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>>551995215
the lil nigga drops yellow items
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>>551995148
Indians are immune to smell issues.
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>>551995163
there it is!
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>>551995215
Credits
Legendary item
If you're in lab 0 he also drops event currency iirc
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>>551995367
LuckGOD
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I love being instantly loved and worshipped by doing absolutely nothing, bros.
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>>551995779
SKK : exist
The strongest girl of the planet/whatever : r-really ? am i useful to u ? you're the best !
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>>551994457
>that laser pipi
At least you got rid of the basics and got the correct upgrade. That's enough for 500k.
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>>551996021
this but unironically
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Reminder that pubic hair on a woman is a sign of maturity and highly attractive.

The bigger the bush the better.

If you disagree you're both low T and a beta male cuck.
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>>551995779
Seriously though, I thought we will have some scene with Sereniel in Chapter 3 but we just have like 4 lines of dialogue with her, and the climax of the story is....Yuki crying over Asuna. Wow. I thought the gooks would riot?
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>>551996186
>Reminder that pubic hair on a woman is a sign of maturity and highly attractive.
True
>The bigger the bush the better.
False
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>>551995779
>>551995983
>>551996021
Is there any gacha with some pandering that doesn't resort to this dogshit writing?
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>>551996282
Fate GO.
Gran Blu
Priconne
Basically only the Japanese know how to write.
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>>551996370
Those are barely games, though.
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>>551996370
>has actual NTR in all 3 games
lol
>Basically only the Japanese know how to write.
lmao
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don't open unless you want to be horny
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>>551996370

> Played priconne for a few months, pretty comfy
> Decide to randomly read story one day
> Quit due to MC's retardation
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i like some pandering and flirting
i want to get the girls pregnant
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>>551995779
>by doing absolutely nothing
You groomed the fuck out of them as their therapist who mind wipes them when it's convenient.
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Play Gakumas.
It's a better roguelike card game and a better pandering game.
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>>551996696
I want to punch Niel's pregnant belly and piss on her tits...
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>>551996739
mentally ill faggot-kun...
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>>551995779
Absolutely fucking kino. I didn't care about Sere when they revealed her but she has become my favourite character.
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ayo isn'T this a little too much HP?
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>>551996790
>faggot
I wi rape her too, but I need to make her suffer first.
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>deleted
lmao, reset that router brownoid
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>>551996849
I could say the same thing about your HP
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some nigga said they want to punch a pregnant belly and piss on her tits
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>>551997073
That was me.
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>>551996601
>meet girl and employ her on the SS Nightmare
>send her to the Chaos to get purposely mindbroken by monsters
>come back, needs therapy
>show how much kind you are, how supportive you are, how it is not their fault
>they open up to you and show you their weak side they can't show anyone else
>they develop attachment because of this and develop daddy issues
>as the boss of the SS Nightmare they will always rely on you
>start dating them and profit
Holy FUCK THE CAPTAIN IS A PREDATOR
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>>551997238
i wish i was the captain....
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>>551997238
>pretends to be retarded and socially inept around women to make the girls let their guards down around you
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Pubic hair is disgusting as hell. There's nothing feminine about body hairs. Hair on the head is the only hairs a woman should have.
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>>551997238
>[Psychological Counseling Improvements]
>To more clearly convey Combatants' trauma, new presentation elements and Breakdown-related choices will be added. Poor counseling decisions may instead aggravate a Combatant's trauma, pushing them into deeper Breakdown. In such cases, counseling with Protos will be suspended, medical staff will intervene, and Affinity with that Combatant will not increase.
Ntr mechanic soon
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>>551997547
You're a homosexual locked in a closet of your own making. Pubic hair is a sign of maturity in a woman and to be desired by any hot blooded straight man.

You have either low testosterone, are actually gay or both.
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>>551997586
Damn that sounds pretty kino
They really need to double with the horror and trauma shit more. Both horny and that can exist. Actually they enhance each other
I guess they'll start doing it with the new story
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>>551997069
wasn't enough... he ate the bunny
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>>551996681
Sorry Kotone, I don't speak dekiru
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Imagine making Mei Lin even more dependant on the captain by making her trauma worse, haha.
Just tell her that her lack of skill and experience almost killed everyone involved in chaos subjugation, haha.
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>>551997586
Does that mean I will no longer be able to treat Hugo like a literal dog and blame it on Adelheid?
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>>551996370
>Basically only the Japanese know how to write.
>saying this after FGO ending
LMAO
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>>551998548
He'll probably have a melty and rape the nurse if you mistreat him.
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>>551998582
>>>>>>Implying this is the ending
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>>551998582
wrong general
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>>551997653
see >>551995148
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>>551998582
Lmao what the fuck is this?
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>>551996282
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>>551998582
Tl;dr on Fgo ending? What happens to the gacha now?
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>>551999764
Nta but from what I read, the game isn't ending, this is just the finale of the current part. If I'm reading it right, the world basically reset and the protagonist lost his memories (lol).
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>>551996282
nope. if a gacha is pandering to any significant degree, it's because it's shooting for the audience that is instantaneously mindbroken any time a male other than the MC is on screen. you can literally see it any time a male character is even mentioned in this general. this is just the audience they're trying to court.
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>>551999764
Everyone forget about (you) and (you) become Japanese salaryman.
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>>551999986
Why don't faggots like you ever talk about how Love & Deepspace needs more female characters and needs less pandering?
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Probably not worth throwing away my t15 modifiers for this even though it looks enticing. Didn't even get the forbidden card shit in the first half so it's fucked.
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>>552000268
>2 basics
>only 2 lasers
>copy of pale shooting star
This deck is hot garbage, bro.
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>>552000135
thank you for immediately proving my point! i didn't mention that because it went without saying that L&D is not a well written game. L&D is a "game" for women to flick their beans, retard. there's not even gameplay. it's purely there so they can live out their fantasy of being loved and desired by kpop idol men who exist only to please them and who have no other thoughts in their mind other than bending the knee to them.
the question being asked by >>551996282 is if there were any games that had pandering that didn't resort to "dogshit writing", and i responded with the earnest response that you can't have pandering and good writing because the pandering will compromise literally everything else. nobody praises the writing in L&D for its "quality" because the audience is your r63 counterpart. sorry for mindraping you by accident, i know people like you are very fragile. just go back to re-reading all 3 lines of sereniel's dialog (all of which praise the MC) and you'll calm down.
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>>552000607
Didn't read but interesting how subhumans like you NEVER go into female oriented games to complain about pandering. That disgusting ass game has a legit period checker in it and not a PEEP from you subhumans. Pandering is only bad when it's in male oriented games. :^) Do the world a favour and kill yourself.
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>>552000391
Had two camps left to remove the basics and also the last boss copy gamble, but no access to discord to save my tier 15 modifiers so it wasn't worth it, either way.
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>>552000792
>LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALA I WILL NOW ARGUE WITH A MADE UP VERSION OF YOU THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT YOU SAID
most raped award
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>>552000792
I accept your concession.
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>>552000792
Illiterate retard
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>triggered redditors having a melty
lolmao
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>>552000607
you dropped your fedora bro
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holy fuck let me track my CZN's periods and get them pregnant i will empty my bank account into this game
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>552000991
>552001008
>552001009
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>>551999986
Not long ago, I didn’t give a damn about playable male characters in my gacha games. But now they've attracted a bunch of revolting fujos and clueless players, which forced the devs to pander to them. Look, if you’re making a game, series, or any crap trying to appeal to a wide audience, you're just asking to create a massive pile of bullshit. So trust me, it’s better to gatekeep, or you’ll be sliding down that slippery slope fast.
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BROS
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>>552001642
I curse you with no dupes or no upgrade
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you can tell half of Calcutta is in this thread
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>>552001497
that's a non-sequitur. the question wasn't even "should it be happening" it was "can you have a good story with pandering" and of course the answer is no to the latter. the answer to the former is "if you want money, yes" because pandering is how you make money. this question being and answered at all literally caused one guy to start samefagging and posting on cooldown (not realizing everyone can tell when you post on cooldown) crying about the leddit boogeyman invading his game. the kind of people pandering appeals to gets you rabidly devoted consumers who, when questioned, will just lash out and quintuple down. it's like politics.
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>>552001642
>not the AP or draw one
hmm...nyo
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>>552001642
I pray that you get at least two copies, bro. Good luck.
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>>552001497
There's really no gacha game that adds a second gender post release, they're either mixed from the start or only have males/females for the playables. You know exactly what you're walking in when you see something like CZN, there will be rabid females, furries and faggots in the community but they'll almost never get anything. We're 7 banners in with only women and likely more to come.
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>>552002250
> There's really no gacha game that adds a second gender post release,
PGR
And it has more pandering than Wuwa ever could.
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what kind of craigslist ad should I write to hookup with a nerdy fat chick who looks like this
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>>552002356
What are you talking about, Lee and Kamui are literally release characters.
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>>552002427
Oh I thought you are talking about MC's gender
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>>552001845
You must really suck ass at conveying your thoughts if you need to constantly write out paragraphs over an arbitrary post.
In before "illiterate retard" or "not my fault you can't read" verbatim shit.
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>>551999764
Fakeout ending gave shitposters material, check /fgog/ since a majority aren't buying it
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>>552002550
??????? there's not even argument to be had what the fuck are you even rambling about nigga
the post you made was completely irrelevant to what you were responding to, and that reply is just explaining that it wasn't relevant. you could've just made that post without replying and it would've made sense.
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>>552001845
>of course the answer is no to the latter.
BA and NIKKE have better and more fun storylines than nearly everything else while still being pandering games.
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>>552002379
probably something that mentions how you're rich
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>>552002250
>but they'll almost never get anything.
As it should be. But once devs start pandering to them, we're in for a world of hurt.
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>>552002859
>BA
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>NIKKE
i actually agree that nikke has an interesting narrative and part of that is the way it bends over backwards to integrate the pandering INTO the narrative. it's really fascinating and is unironically decently written. i really enjoyed my time with the game.
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>>552003052
>But once devs start pandering to them
None of these games ever truly pander to them. They will release a few token characters to trick them into spending more money and thinking they care while the bulk of the cast is still female, with many of the most popular characters being female. They will fool themselves into thinking they are relevant enough and the devs will just unveil another homescreen like Sereniel's.
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sereniel is too much of a mary sue for my tastes
>conventionally beautiful
>no personality outside of "being loved by the good guys"
>no flaws outside muh tragic past (which she already got over)
who's self insert is she?
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>>552003273
Lacus Clyne.
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>>552003069
The Decagrammaton shit and volume F are really good narratives in BA, idk what bs you are trying to pull here.
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I regret rolling for Haru
I regret rolling for Yuki
I regret rolling for Chizuru
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>>552002859
infinite platonic slop will never be good, watch a real anime or play a real game instead of coping with gacha
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>>552003851
Then why be in a gacha thread?
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>>552003967
not for the story, for sure
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>>552003993
Not for the gameplay either, you could be playing a real game instead of coping with a gacha.
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>>552003273
How can she be a Mary Sue if she barely even appears in the story of her own patch
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>>552003669
nta and I generally agree BA has (or at least, used to have - dropped the game around the 3rd anni) really good stories. The problem is that once you get absolute kino like volume III or volume F, but then you get absolute shit like volume II or insipid pet student wank (usually Hina or Hoshino).

Decagrammaton was an excellent concept, but the "Decagrammaton event" was my definition of wasted potential for a while. Way to fuck up a great foundation with dogshit gameplay and insufficient story.

Now I'll digress, but the fun fact is that most enjoyable stories I saw in gachas were mostly from Korean games (BA, Nikke, Horizon Walker come to mind).
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>>552003810
>I regret rolling for Chizuru
I regret NOT rolling for Chizu. God dammit I should have listened to my dick. She's so fucking good with Sereniel.
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>>552003273
i wouldn't consider someone who only has a purely black/white moral worldview and uses murder as the first resort as someone with no flaws
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>missing just one more tactical maneuver
I HATE IT
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>>552004384
still good
too bad for drone bombing tho
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>>552004384
haven't gotten a single run with a copy on that shit but only started playing sele for the rift
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I heard this game is made by and for trannies, is that true
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>>552004384
Same and wrong scope but fuck it, i'm not going into the mines again
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>>552001709
worked :(
>>552002027
not one
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>>552004503
>no female MC
wrong game sis
try wuwa, homoverse, stella sora, etc
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kino
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>>552004503
All gachaslop are made for trannies
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The grind continues...
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>>552004384
Why do you even need 4 of them? Also, doesn't it ruin the new 4-piece ravage set?
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>>552004954
Is that amputation? Hot
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>>552004584
What Memory Fragments do you use on Selena?
Also which team do you recommend for Chaos? Veronica and Mika?
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>>552006845
https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/characters/selena
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>>552007124
You know, I’m asking you people because I trust your experiences far more than Prydwen and its faulty tier lists
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>>552007124
>check tier list
>Magna is T0.5, at the same rank as Tressa
Lmao
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>>552007513
you're asking the lowest skill level community on the entire internet
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>>552006845
>What Memory Fragments do you use on Selena?
2-2-2, atk, critdmg, agony/basic
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>>552007851
Thanks
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>>551984782
HOLY Mei Ling AUTISM
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=chaoszero&no=321638&exception_mode=recommend&search_head=70&page=1
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>>552007513
Prywden is right though.
Selena is just a massive liability with her rift build so just run her with whatever team of 2 can clear on their own.
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>>552007821
where do i go for a higher skill level community
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>>552007513
Selena + Seri + someone who heals
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>>552008103
gook forums, 2ch soshage board and the bilibili forums
even prydwen is better than this shithole because at least prydwen knows shit like floral scent juggling on mei lin, which most people here never even heard about
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>>552008103
/e7g/
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>>552008218
>gook forums, 2ch soshage board and the bilibili forums
lmao
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>>552008242
LOL!
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>>552007513
>>552008141
>>552007724

pryden is good for this basic shit
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>>552008218
>because at least prydwen knows shit like floral scent juggling on mei lin, which most people here never even heard about
Because no one ever posts about it here?
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>>552008365
wow what an insightful information you have here
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>>552008427
bro he asked who to use sere with in a fucking chaos
he could just figure that out by thinking for 2 seconds
what prydn provides is OBVIOUS yes
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>>552007821
>wake up
>check czn
>still on leaderboard
>check 4chan
>find out we're the lowest skill level community
oh nyo
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>>552006845
>>552007513
Also technically Rei and Veronica are the best teammates to use in chaos for farming saves (because the have uniques both in non-epiphany and epiphany) but since both Veronica and Selena are follow-up damage dealers it's kinda iffy if you remove basics.
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>>552000916
Pale Shooting Star is fantastic though? Just don't be a laserlet.
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>>552008218
Bro most people don't even have those dupes
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>>552010457

well duh that's why you don't take advice from people who don't even have access to all tools to theorycraft and experiment
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>>552010247
>advanced rigging for space combat
>all these elaborate parts tha make her look half robot
>tiny fucking straps to prevent her tits from falling out from the sides
I like to goon but this is retarded. Just give her a "combat micro bikini" if you need her design to be in your face.
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>FOOD LMAO
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I want to fuck a chubby girl so bad
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>>552011705
hey x3
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>>552011705
This chubby girl is underpowered.
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>>552011941
Pulverize should deal double damage to shields.
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>>552010853
what else could she possibly talk about? this obese piece of shit brushes her teeth with mayo and drinks bacon grease instead of water
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Sereniel with huge tits doko
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Haru will eat your dick
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How long until this game got modding support?
Wish it was more popular so we can mod it like NIKKE
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The CUTEST used+damaged goods.
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Shunguang ACTUALLY killed this game LMAO
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>>552009312
>Also technically Rei and Veronica are the best teammates to use in chaos for farming saves
>farming saves with a no sustain team
Lmao. No, Mika and Veronica is the best for farming. Mika has 1 unique and she doesn't mind her other cards being removed besides Source of Water.
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I just broke up with ZZZ
is this a good slop to rebounce on?
do I start now or wait until limited banner to reroll?
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>>552014661
Are you lost, little one?
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>>552014781
The literal manifestation of HOLY BOOBA!
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>>552008365
But that's bad. You either go Selena + Mika, Nia + Mika or Chizuru + Rei. And then outside of chaos you go Selena + Nia.
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>>552014775
>is this a good slop to rebounce on?
Do you like card games? Do you like StS?
>or wait until limited banner
The limited banner is now.
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>>552014661
Shun who?
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>>552014661
>>552014775
Why? I just googled her name and it seems you got a turbo hot and broken horse bitch
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>>551985270
I don't like this type of 11/10 fanservice without much prior buildup.
>sereniel is summoned to the world by yuki
>suddenly gets wet at the sight of skk
>becomes a turbo whore
Tactless and boring!

>>551995779
This here. The story SUCKS. The way they present, develop, and escalate relations with the characters SUCKS. Whomever is in charge of writing is an utterly clueless buffoon who can only manage surface level superficial relations with zero depth that are tantamount to clickbait.
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>>552014775
You are literally on time for the first limited. She's pure sex and makes Chaos runs extremely easy. Go go go.
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>>552015147
white
>>552015230
brown
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>ZZZfag switching to a deckbuilder turn based game
Uhh...it'd not even the same genre
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>>552015095
yeah but I did not get her
I promised myself that if I didnt get her within 120 rolls I had on hand I will just dropped that game on the spot
so here I am
made the same promise with summer maruzensky and Manhuntun cafe but they somehow manage to come home
but yeah I guess I will give the reroll a try
if I hate it then I might drop it too and just wait for endfield
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>>552015383
the "genre" doesn't really matter for gachoid games, none of them are challenging enough to wall people off due to barrier to entry
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How long until they nerf Mika to sell you a 5-star version of her?
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>>552015462
>the "genre" doesn't really matter for gachoid games, none of them are challenging enough to wall people off due to barrier to entry
We had people who struggled with Chizuru's story battle, lmao.
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>>552015147
>>552015375
reddit sóygger trannoids

>>552015230
red blooded straight male
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>>552015383
Not that retard but I play both, you can enjoy different types of games you know. No actual zzz player posts about it on this site anyway
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>>552015658
that's not because of lack of mechanical skill, that's literally because it was an RNG check
I'm talking shit like being able to aim with a mouse to get into shooter games like apex or valorant
or knowing how to do command inputs to get into fighting games
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>>552015462
Anon the average gachabrain will definitely struggle with this game
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>>552015815
>RNG check
Fuck no it wasn't
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>>552015965
it's a card game anon, if you don't like RNG maybe this game is not for you
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>>552016027
You're just fucking bad if you think fucking chizuru's story took RNG to beat
Sorry to say
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>>552015815
>it was an RNG check
Filtered
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>>552014661
the only thing killing czn will be czn itself
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>>552015497
Big hands means big AP...
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>>552015676
>spoiler
Wish we did the same for CZN too. Or literally anything vidya related, really.
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>>552014775
The card game is great yes. It's genuinely good at that, even though the story got so ridiculously bad they have scheduled it to be rewritten.
Event's story is on the new writer and is actually passable.
Here, save this. When you go into Chaos, you go into the roguelite mode. That's where you farm a deck. But it follows a point system and you will understand it later.
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>>552016461
>Here, save this. When you go into Chaos, you go into the roguelite mode. That's where you farm a deck. But it follows a point system and you will understand it later.
This won't be relevant for him for at least a month.
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Yuki's fat sweaty breasts
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>>552016461
Divine Epiphanies are also 10 extra points on neutrals
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>>552016461
That's not how card removals work.
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>Gundam releasing another suletta unit
>Guaranteed to hit no1 again
Czn needs to find their own suletta and just watch as whales drop insane money for her.
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The Yuki bits with Asuna was so weird desu
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>>552016461
story doesnt really matter
I finish arknight and basically every gacha games over the year and have not read a single line of story text from any of the games
I havnt read a single line of chat text from uma either
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>>552014661
Medium is premium. When will CZN get something like this?
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>>552016940
I want to sniff a line off of that tummy...
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>>552016871
>skipped Uma
BASE-
>skipped Arknights
Holy CRINGE
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>>552016871
Anon the story and character interactions is 90% of the game. At this point you're just rolling characters to feed your gacha addiction
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>>552014775
kek no you didn't
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>>552016871
Same. I just want a lighthearted fantasy adventure that tells fun stories about how awesome you are while you are collecting your harem but for some reason no game wants to give me this. Very weird.
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>>552017040
AK is unironical dogshit. It reads like an even more chinkified and sloppified version of GF1
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>>552017040
Arknights' story is pure dogwater written by chinkoid pseudo-intellectual crossdressers.
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>>552017042
hey if I want to read Id go read a book
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I only know Arknights out of Limbus Company. This catgirl appeared and started yapping two paragraphs whenever a single line would have been enough.
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>>552017042
Wrong. Just look at ZZZ
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ok
how annoying is the rerolling process here?
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>>552017040
AK is only good in theory and lorebuilding.
In practice, it's fucking millions of words with very little importance.
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>>552016461
Is it even possible to get 5 copies? Most I’ve seen is 3, meaning base card + 3 copies for a total of 4.
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>>552017456
extremely
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>>552017040
AK's plot is bad even if you ignore the word spam. It's got bad protagonists and antagonists for the most part, kitchen sink setting, common chink powerwank and more.
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oh so this is the cuck game?
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>>552016208
Finally, a combatant capable of handling my HUGE cannon.
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>>552017456
My advice is if you get a 5* that is not a total brick just roll with it
If you get magna or orlea as your first 5* I'd probably reroll though (orlea is getting buffed however)
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>>552017897
Now that you’re here, nyes.
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>>552017328
No way that translated into the limbus collab
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>>552018004
>(orlea is getting buffed however)
not any time soon and just her healing part

is her non-healing part even good? I think she would get played if it was, so I doubt it. Rei is getting her healing buffed and yet she was still played since shes a god tier support
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>>552017737
Imo the general plot is decent, it's just that the amount of word inflation makes you bored and lose interest in anything worthwhile because it starts feeling like a slog.
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>>552017897
Its perfect for your dad or so I hear
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my current evaluation is
striker and hunter are main dps; ranger, vanguard, and psion are sub dps; controller is support. these are design leans and not hard roles. I might be overestimating vanguard as I feel the defense based damage hits decently, but it is possible that my perception is warped by khalipe.
strikers just use attack cards and rangers have bullet gimmicks, this makes those classes seem the most similar to each other within their categories.
rangers are all each based on, at least in part, extra attacks; and all in distinct ways. vanguards are the only classes with real access to shields, counterattacks, and defense scaling damage; they also all some form of aoe. psions apply debuffs and heal a little in some way. they're also all void currently which could be skewing their mechanical expression.
controllers heal the most and have the best card selection.

passion uses many cards in a row, either repeated attacks or a cadence of attack and skill cards. it's enemy type tends to have high action count or gimmicks that increase it, and have specific counter enemies that punish it like the bear trap elite, the porcupine, and the blue pot boss everyone hates. the enemies also seem to share a lot of gimmicks that other elements have, like shields, 'buffer and beater' pairs, taunts, maybe it's because passion is the tutorial element.
justice buffs or 'charges up' for a big single hit, and leans single target. enemy gimmicks are half HP as shield for nearly everything, AI change/stun on shield break, low action counts like judas or punishing taking many instances of damage, anti-aoe fights, with counter strategies like taunts and revive actions.
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>>552017897
It's getting rewritten. The new limited character basically gets on her back and spreads her legs for you the moment you meet her.
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>>552018112
Orlea is getting a rework afaik and she'll be one of the first 2 units to get the new mindbreak mechanic
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>>552018180
void seems to actually like hitcounts, but that's currently expressed by making lots of cards. rin's gimmick is using her cards in a row and some hitcount increases, but everyone thinks of the other three. enemies have gimmicks like number of hits to change AI (fliers that stun after 4 hits, the solo mob that swaps to a weaker attack after taking hits, stacks of single hit DR like the weekly boss, the fat eyeball that increases your costs for playing non-attack cards), giving you status cards, and stealing cards to counter characters that don't produce tons of cards.
before sereniel, instinct seemed to be based on aoe damage and retaining cards, but there were subthemes for ravage. orlea is the biggest retain gimmick character, but khalipe has all three. enemies had the most targets on screen at once (5), enemies that become untargetable by single target skills, fliers that become stunned on ravage (hitcount?), the damage share worms, and counter strategies like forced discard and buff enemies on getting hit.
order seems to have the least cohesive identity. the best I can figure is low card costs, hitcounts, and maybe draw. enemies are aoe encounters, produce egg enemies, put abnormal conditions on your cards, bosses that change AI after X hits/damage, and have counter-strategy enemies in hitcount/repeated card use punishing gimmicks like the corrosion spirit and low cost punishers like the owl.

anyway, kayron is actually a hunter with the gimmick "what if bullets were a bad thing actually (until you use an upgrade)", thanks for coming to my ted talk
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>newcuties everywhere
hope they aren't total gachniggers
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it's done
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>>552018180
>>552018294
Maybe spot on for the classes but I feel like we'll have every archetype for every element.
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>>552018180
>rangers have bullet gimmicks
retard
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>>552018180
skip
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>>552018459
only gachaniggers like us would stick to this game long term
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>>552018512
Where's your max ego Hugo?
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>>552018512
Holy homoGOD
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>>552018512
girl? ID?
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how the fuck is ego recovery even calculated?
it feels like a useless stat
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>>552018561
I was running low on characters, then split the post, then I didn't want to try and write three more sentences on how luke, renoa, and sereniel have the same decks (attack that makes bullet, skill that makes bullets, buff bullets (renoa has 'buff this if you're holding a bullet' instead), multihit card, and big bullet payoff)

>>552018535
it's a distinct possibility, and would help explain the identity problems some of the elements have, but then that would also go against the what they seem to be doing with enemy design. why would you use a character if they get countered by every enemy gimmick they have element advantage over?
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>>552019176
I watched a dude that was trying it out on youtube and it seemed like a significant boost
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is the double resource farming event up? At reset?
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>>552018180
>>552018294
can you make a youtube video?
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>>552018535
mayors my beloved
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>>552018294

Finally someone that posts good mechanical observations instead of slop.

However,
>kayron "what if bullets where a bad thing"
except when you get his e2 his futility becomes a consistent AOE that procs 3-4 times a turn sometimes even more dealing about 1k aoe damage for free. He is not a real character without his dupes
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>>552018112
Orlea has a good kit it's just not good enough. You can easily and reliably stack vuln better than anyone in the game and also buff all attacks by 35% but we're just not in a big-hitter meta so it's useless.
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>>552019176
is it not like 25-30 points a pip and you add the party's recovery every turn? I haven't looked closely at what you get for cards played, I see it go up every 3-4 cards, but it could be AP spent.
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Is this still the best for Sereniel if you use Selena? Wouldn't enemies spend more time not in ravaged state?
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>>552020654
Nope, 2-2-2 is better if you do the leaderboard strat of resetting the boss bar
For regular use you shouldn't have the Ravage reset on Selena imo so you can use it
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>>552020654
Her damage is normally middling but she she breaks tenacity extremely quickly and with that set the moment she ravages an enemy they basically melt under her laser spam
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>>551995779
Yeah her nipples are definitely inverted

>>552003810
Haru and Chizuru are great and fun. Yuki is jank and unfun.

>>552016850
Did they release Katejina yet?
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>event where i get a random god or a chosen regular epiphany
>choose the one where i can choose
>get a god one
How the fuck?
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>>552016940
I burned out too early, would have liked to try the new Void Hunter before co-op killed my interest completely, though looking around it looks like the game already went to shit with the new stuff
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Yuki?
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>>552022275
fast&rough hatesex with this disgusting whore
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>lab0 mines runs for sereniel
>use the mutant sample on sereniel
>somehow get this vero pot of greed++ deck instead
>no epi on pendant because lab0 moment
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>>552023401
Very fucking nice, set for life (outside of sesonal content)
Pendant is garbo who cares, the sad thing is that you couldn't remove it
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>>552021897
They're both divine. If you look the word epiphany is orange. It's just a text issue.
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did 2 rerolls
havnt get even SR outside of pity
i will give it another go and if I dont get ssr then im done
i gave it a chance
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>>552024275
understandable rerolling sucks
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>>552024275
i did 3 times and gave up
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>>552023401
pretty nice, man. congratz
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>opening hand
lmao I love this
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B-BATTOU??
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Did I finally beat the game?
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>>552025347
>Yuki is bad
>Westmacott is kinda bad too
Damn bitch what are you even good at? Just bend over.
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>>552025347
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>>551994090
Owen should have an alt (corrupted or whatever else) version but that's literally just him as a girl. Mindbreaking a guy-turned-girl into a submissive slut is the last thing I need to sell my soul to this game.
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>>552025504
Why you didn't remove 2 basic cards anon? Holy brick
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>>552025504
>only 3 lasers
>2 basics
>AP
>wrong cobalt light
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>>552025347
Yuki!
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>>552025347
love this crazy bitch
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>Battou
>Battou
>Uchi n-
>Battou
>kuhuhuhu
>Battou
incredible dialogue, Gookeks
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>>552025937
>wrong cobalt light
that is the best epiphany for that card
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>>552026741
the 1AP cost is considered the best
the weakness attack one is good too so dw
i'm just kidding your deck is fine
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>>552026741
according to who? your favorite sub-1k subscriber youtuber? where the fuck is my pho? go back to the kitchen
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1 Resolve
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>>552026693
better than
>SENMETSU
>SENMETSU
>SENMETSU
>SENMETSU
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>>552027414
1 agony at the end of the turn
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>>552026693
That's nip-Yuki you absolute fucking retard.
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FIX THE FUCKING EPI RATE FOR LAB 0 YOU DUMB ASS GOOKS AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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She saved the game
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Increase Action Count of all enemies by 1
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I shaved my pubes
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>>552028030
she shaved the game
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AAAAAAH I LOVE FIGHTING
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What does Sereniel kisses taste like
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>>552028390
anon i'm so sorry...
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why are ephipanies rng
why is duping rng
why is grinding so shit
why is story so shit
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>>552028603
this is a ROGUELIKE game stop WHINING and PLAY the GAME
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So I tried to do the Chaos Lab 0 phase 9 and the normal monsters just dealt shit tons of damages? How am I supposed to clear this?
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>>552028824
>>552028030
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>>552028801
the game.
congrats you already lost the game
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>>552028824
cute...
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HETTU SHOTTO
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>>552028824
level your artifacts and potentials
OR
use sereniel
BUT REALLY
stick with 8
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>blanket + teddy bear = woman healed
peak writing unironically
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>>552025347
BATTOU
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SEX
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>>552030460
grown ass women love plushies

my brother's ex still had a pillow she hugged at bed with him and she was in her 30s
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>Can't even clear the full BP even if you don't miss any other the missions
This is game is truly something else.
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>>552030460
in all fairness, they are all mentally stunted because of constant brain washing thanks to chaos.
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>>552025347
Nah she's putting in the work in simulations, I've got no complaints
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>Sorry guys Tressa is too OP, play this new character instead
The new character:
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>>552030801
You can though. I full cleared the last one and I'm on track to hit stage 70 by the end of this one too
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>>552030562
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>>552031062
still worse than tressa
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>>552030801
bwo do you have a mental disability?
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I don't bully people anymore I just make them more concerned
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>>552031192
Top end damage potential is similar or higher than Tressa due to Selena.
However the team does not have anywhere near the level of sustain TCM has.
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>>552031658
Right now. Tressa could (could've) only grown in power, Sereniel is mostly self contained, that's the difference between the two.
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>>552031924
>Tressa could (could've) only grown in power, Sereniel is mostly self contained
Why would Tressa be able to grow in power but not Sereniel?
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2x Event is up

Farm those potentials. And by farm I mean you can now spend 300 Stamina instead of 600 to increase a potential by 1.
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>>552032171
Probably because Tressa could become more broken depending on future healers but it's more unlikely we get many or any new characters with tenacity recharge.
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Double mats! (for up to 120 stamina a day)
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>>552032631
>for up to 120 stamina a day
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>>552032171
Tressa generates her cards from outside sources instead of her own cards. Any healer spamming healing cards would make her much stronger (imagine a healer generating 0 cost heals like her).
Sereniel generates lasers through her own cards, or Ravage. The only way to increase her laser spam is fucking Spirit Kefox cloning a laser or something.

I think they can just slap an unique on that Shadow Reload epi to balance it tho, dont even need to remove it or change the effect.
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>>552032712
The way you increase laser spam is by recharging enemy tenacity more times.
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SISTERS?!?!?!?
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>double drops from 120 stamina each day
>840 stamina worth of bonus materials
Wow 2.5 free days of materials!!!!!!!
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this is concerning
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>>552033075
>Doesn't even work on fragments
GAME
SAVED
SUGOI
PRAISE BE SMILEGOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|!!!!"!
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>>552033075
>max a hero in 20 days in 22
holy shit
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>>552033280
instead of*
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>>552033280
It's called a toon silly
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Bricking my account farming blue stones for a character who probably won't be blue
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who should i level up next
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>do 2 whole potential runs
>with double drops
>still can't max out a character
wow not very pogchamp of you smilegay
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This seems like the must have card for Sereniel
The other epiphanies are nice yeah but this one is so much better that playing her without it feels badman
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>>552033753
these are my high lvls
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>>552033592
i'd like to waver her sense of justice and beliefs
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>>552033753
>>552034014
It doesn't really matter for you. Just get your low levels to 40 to claim their level up summons
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>>552032631
Would it really be harmful to remove the limit?
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>>552033951
the other upgrade one + copies is also good
it lets you always pick one of the 5 epiphanies so you can literally just get 2 copies of laser and 2 copies of that if you're unlucky and you're almost in the same spot as cloning 4 lasers
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>add to-go coffee
>don't require stamina for side story farming
>limit the amount of stamina you can use for double sim events
>allow you to drink regular coffee above your max stamina recharge
>to-go is just a -20 stamina button
People will still defend this
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>>552034684
Yes

It's a ranking game with leaderboards, removing the limit means all the turbowhales can max refresh every day and max every character and everything then be ahead of everyone by a large margin. Also it gives a massively unfair advantage to anyone that saved their stamina recharge items because now they would be vastly ahead of everyone that didn't.

If it was a fully PVE game with no competition whatsoever then yeah sure no limits but it's the first months of a game with player competition, limit is necessary so players dont turboautism it.
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>>552034913
u can only have 999 energy at the max max, taking it to go lets u store it 4 times
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why is blud still buckbroken over leaderboards
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man this game is so bad... now stella sora
THAT'S a real game
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>>552034913
>be endgame
>have no characters worth building
>upcoming character looks cool
>don't know what mats you need yet
>take to-go coffee
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all i know: ser is stupid OP
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>>552035561
>log in
>click one button
>press sweep
>log off for the day because it's an autobattler with no content or gameplay
unironically right that it would be better for most of the fucks crying about having to play the game
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>>552035872
>>log off for the day because it's an autobattler with no content or gameplay
I'm not that guy, and I've never played Stella Sora and I never will, but honestly CZN is making me miss autobattlers. I don't think I'm ever gonna play a "real gameplay" gacha ever again. The chores are a Nightmare when there is Zero sweep or autobattle and that's adding a lot of Chaos to my life.
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>2 chaos/week is too much for me
kys my bwp
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We made more than your game since release in a single day. Latta bitch.
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>>552036242
That's not how much you need during events.
That's not how much you need if you want to do rare mat grind or content above that due to deck building.
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>>552036242
is that all you do lmao
do you just let stamina overcap and go to waste like a retard
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>>552036435
>ZZZcuck is still butthurt that the extremely rigged meme chart had to be rigged AGAIN just so that ZZZ would beat CZN
>Note: ZZZ did *NOT* actually beat CZN
kek
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>>552034765
I'll try that next time
Nice to see an useful post in this thread
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>>552036609
It's called playing the game
>>552036618
you can just auto stamina stages I dont get the issue, dont you have a 2nd monitor, my yuki just nukes everything AoE or sereniel for stages with single bosses/enemies
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...would it really have been gamebreaking to add artifacts to this? Why is SmileGate so stingy?
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>>552037197
They're copying shitHoyo 1:1
Homoverse makes separate events for both

One day we'll get x2 for fragments only
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>>552036609
>That's not how much you need if you want to do rare mat grind or content above that due to deck building.
no way BRO?
if you want to do content you have to play the game?
what the fuck am i reading
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>>552037282
...oh
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>>552037197
>This is their fix to the completely botched progression systems of this game
This game is going to be dead in 4 months.
Endfield will end most of it in a few weeks anyway.
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>>552037354
>need to do multiple 1+ hour long runs a day every day
You are not reading, you are on a job.
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>have completely dogshit artifacts
>had a couple good ones
>the good ones rolled all into Crit Damage
>because of this, I cannot get 60% crit with Sereniel
>have to RNG new decent artifacts
>have to hope the RNG rolls into Crit Chance on level up
>can't roll artifacts this week because it's 2x everything else
>can only even feasibly acquire 60% crit Sereniel 2 weeks from now
>still at the mercy of RNG, could easily roll every level up into a different stat other than Crit Chance again
Artifactslop is going to kill the game for me
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Holy fuck 2x rewards in simulation
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>>552038146
Instead of getting mindbroken think that it's an irrelevant 5% it literally doesn't matter
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>need memory frags
bros... what do i do?
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>>552038678
I'm just prefarming potentials
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>>552038678
build them
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>>552038678
I think we just have to kill ourselves.
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time for milk
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>>552038678
120 on potential 120 on fragments
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what memory fragments do you use for supports? health, defense and scarab?
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>>552039024
just defense
all that other shit isn't worth farming for
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>>552038889
She needs to be pregnant
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>>552039024
ye
like the other anon said just try to get your last potential bonus effect if you can and whatever
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>>551984782
Anyone know how many Premium Battle Memories it takes to go from 50-60? Trying to decide how much of this 2x rewards I want to spend on growth while it lasts.
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>>552039113
100% agreed, all CZNs would be better pregnant
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Any news on these absurd final Potential requirements? Again. AGAIN they released an unit that needs 60% fucking crit chance for her boost.
At least the 1.000 attack units can get it from multiple placesz you only get crit chance by potential or memory fragments. The latter is pure RNG and then RNG over it if you don’t get the right stat upgraded when you level it up.
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>>552016871
Lame take. A good story can literally carry lame gameplay otherwise i wouldn't have stucked with Limbus Company
That said, Chaos Zero has such a fun gameplay that it can carry the game even if the story isn't THAT good. I'm enjoying the events so far tho
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>>552036435
"We" made?
Nigger first off you are poor, brown and worse, play hoyo games
Secondly, this is all da wei's money, not yours retarded bitch
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>>552040251
I don't think anyone complains about them. They complain about the mats to raise potentials more than the potentials themselves.
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idk if they're leaked but just based off their appearance: nine will be someone good vs shields maybe? tiphera looks like a buffer subdmg
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>>552040924
Absolutely no idea and I wouldn't judge from their designs. Narja is a fucking lizard woman with claws and shit and her card in the story hints at her being a support, which might not be what she actually is but still.
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>>552040251
it's just 5% anon
And sexreniel already wrecks everything with 30+ cr
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>>552040428
Hello? Based Department? You have to see this.
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Shame I didn't get any of the meta items or any purples at all but the cards are REALLY GOOD
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>>552039236
I think it's around 200.
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>>552041595
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>>552041796
meant for, sorry

>>552039236
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>>552039385
Khalipe sex...
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The game is so dead that CC's are making guides on how to 2x resource events. SHAMBLES.
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>>552040251
pretty sure that 60% is before the potential node
since peko only gives 25% so you still need that node to jit 100%
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OH FUUUUUUU~
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>>552043335
You will be cursed with 0 dupes, but good luck.
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how do I logout from the mobile guest acc so I can link to my stove pc acc I dont want my mobileguest to override my other shit by accident
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>>552043335
the god card.....
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>>552043560
I've unfortunately only got 100 points to work with so I'm not expecting this deck to be great anyway, but since I already got the Giant Ballista I should at least be able to use this deck with simulation farming.
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>>552043610
i dont understand
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>>552044046
I have a stove account on my pc but I cant figure out how to log out from the guest account on my phone and login as the stove acc
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>>552040428
>>552036435
Bro went MIA after this LMAOOOOOOOO
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>>552044173
reinstall windows 95
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>>552044173
well you cant override a stove account with a guest account, at worst it would log you out
you can delete the account in settings on your phone
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>>552044173
>>552044556
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>>552044658
have you tried logging out of the stove app instead of the game, dummy?
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you can logout from the main menu dingus
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>>552044967
huh? i was telling him to delete his guest account in that menu
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Narja will be a Sereniel support?
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>>552043610
>how do I logout from the mobile guest acc so I can link to my stove pc acc
Should be a logout button in the settings
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>>552045103
no she will be a combatant, the small girl she is with in the story is HER partner
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>>552045103
I hope so
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>>552045103
We don't even know what she does, hard to tell.

>>552045185
Support doesn't mean Partner, bwo. Support as in character that synergizes with another character. Just like Selena is Sereniel's best support for the rift boss.
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>>552045369
>Support doesn't mean Partner
yeah i messed up
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Chaos Zero Epiphanies
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>>552045984
>shining core
Bricked
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>>552040428
The character in question was pretty made for brown people, so yea WE made more than you ever did in your shitty cuck simulator.
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Man, I really wish I had been running a harder Chaos so I could afford to get rid of her last Rapid Fire and maybe get a Maneuvering Fire or something, but it still ended up being a damn good deck for sim farming.
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>>552045984
>4 AP lasers
>no epi on perhaps her most important card
>back to the mines
whoever designed lab0 should be skinned alive
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>>552028030
explain why thread dead then
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>>552046323
Still pretty neat, you'll probably be using that d*ck for a long while
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>>552045984
condolences
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>>552046390
There's nothing to fucking do. They released it undercooked and we gotta wait until they release the other game modes that will hopefully make all the difference. Tower of memes next month. Season 2 in Feb. Whatever the fuck in March to April.
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>>552045984
>Literally perfect godlike lasers
>BiS equips
>Didn't get epiphanies on 2 cards so it's shit
rumao
lolu

Man I hope the chaos QoL upgrades and shit are before S2 or with S2 so I don't have to engage in cock and ball torture for next season
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you don't need a perfect deck to clear all content
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wasn't there a whole site with leaks? i thought narja's kit already leaked
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>>552046330
why are you farming lab 0 it has dogshit events
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>>552046390
>explain why thread dead then
because the thread is just 10 different spergs screaming
>I HATE THIS GAME AND YOU SHOULD TOO
>BROS YOU SHOULD PLAY (random garbage) NOW THATS A REAL GAME
>FUCK BROS I HATE THIS GAME BUT MY AUTISM COMPELS ME TO PLAY OR ELSE MY FOMO WILL KILL ME
Plus the usual completely unrelated botspam.

No fucking shit everyone will start leaving or only posting here when they have a question or actually have something to say
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>>552047131
which one is the best for ser?
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>>552047218
bug planet by far
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>>552047203
>BROS YOU SHOULD PLAY (random garbage) NOW THATS A REAL GAME
hey i was shitposting
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>>552047245
one good thing to come from working new years and nights is i can sit at home and farm these retarded decks
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Bwos should i redownload czn if i mostly only care for waifus good gameplay is a bonus.
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>>552047131
Sadly lab0 is BiS for Sereniel, you need the foggy orb and can roll it twice if you get the third boss. You can roll a t13/14 and keep it by leaving if you brick, you can get the wings, the medal
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>>552047373
>redownload
>re
?
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>>552047131
not that anon but I'm farming lab0 because my Zero system is stuck at diff 6 right now and I'm too lazy to spam runs for a day to get it to diff 10

On Lab0 I can just press reset a few times and get a diff 13-14 world with enemies that have been nerfed like 10 times because shitters cried
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>>552047459
what does BiS mean
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>>552047373
>re
?
It's good, just download it
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>>552047542
best in slot
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>>552047464
Kinda took a break idk what state in is game rn hence the question
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>>552047542
Best in Slot, usually an MMO Massively Multiplayer Online (game) term.
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>>552047604
>>552047635
ur dick in my ass is BiS :3
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>>552047542
best in slot, mean to say you need to go for lab0 because foggy ball is her best weapon.
Haven't tried city of mist but getting a t13/14 is rare and if you leave a early bricked run you will run out of orbs evnetually
i really hope the next season chaos isn't as dogshit as lab0, otherwise might be a EoS angle
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>>552047625
But why ask if you just want waifus? you can look up the ones that got released
You cannot fuck them yet though

And a pregnancy feature, even if is direly needed, is also not yet in the game
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which one?
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>>552047894
Idk man if im being real here looking for excuse to download this game again
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>>552047131
https://youtu.be/W2sli9DgPnw?si=4khH2_sR7uVlaO6A&t=670
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I'll ask since I've played literally (0) gachas in my life (and don't care about the rest, I just want to fling cards).
Do other games let you actually romance your girls with meaningful progression? Or are they just there to blueball you with ambiguous comments implying affection until EoS.
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HOLY POGGIES THEY ARE GIVING 1 MONTH OF NITRO BROS
THIS IS HUGE!!!!
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>>552048015
One and two are good
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>>552048015
left is the best for general purposes
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>>552048137
anything but free rolls bruh
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The worst part of lab0 is how rare they made the copy event
>Getting the event to show up in the first place is really rare
>Shares an event slot with the gate event which almost always shows up gold but the options are putrid dogshit
>If it shows up then it's just the normal version and RNG to see if you get offered good copies
>Gold version of the event has like 1 in 100 chances to appear
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>>552048072
They have been taking the criticism koreans did to them and you can see that. Yuki is flirty, Renoa is clingier, Sereniel packs some fanservice and talks about your ship's MASSIVE cannon etc.
So it works.
Event's story was also more consistent too.
It also feels the game is more Blue Archive-like lately with the comedic skits.
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>>552048298
Convinced me lmao, thanks.
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>>552048168
>>552048217
what about here? left, right? i doubt it's middle
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>>552048109
95% of them only make ambiguos comments since they can't step on the next one to be the main wife of the MC
There's some that go a bit further like Snowbreak and Nikke where they heavily imply you kiss and fuck the girl and you marry them and love forever. But then it's the same thing anyways since the there's going to be a new banner girl you will get to kiss and fuck and do all the same.
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>>552048490
>no laser on ravage epiphany
You can cope with the first one
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>>552048264
Also they put the best season weapon in the copy event so nobody's gonna fucking take the Chimeranite when they can get a card dupe instead
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>>552048547
About what I expected, yes.
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>>552048490
1st one and either copy the lasers or that one, doesnt matter which result is almost the same
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>>552048298
>It also feels the game is more Blue Archive-like lately with the comedic skits.
As weird as it sounds, it's a good thing. Doom and gloom can go hand-in-hand with silly comedic episodes (and, obviously, coom). Works for Nikke, works for Horizon Walker. SG can make it work here.
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>>552048109
Really feel. Games with actual romance I guess would be narrowed down to Snowbreak, Nikke, Last Origin.
Most of the time they skirt around it, at least until Valentine's.
Take FGO for example: the evil servants were fighting it out and actually killed each other in cold blood over being your dog in one event. MC didn't get to do anything like dating the survivor afterwards.
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good for ser right
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>>552048490
Left is the second best epiphany after the other upgrade, go for left.

>>552048697
>1st one and either copy the lasers or that one, doesnt matter which result is almost the same
It matters a lot in Rift, the boss lets you have only one upgrade card with the same name. So if he wants to use this deck on the boss, he should aim for laser copies. Otherwise, it indeed doesn't matter.
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>>552048298
I won't be happy until unigram scenes have explicit sex
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whose potentials should I spend my extra simulation farmings on? I crossed the ones that I've already maxed.
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>>552048490
These were the Top 10 Sereniels a few days ago. I agree the on ravage epiphany feels like the best one but as long as you get some other cards with good epiphanies she works nicely regardless.
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>>552048936
Good for anyone who uses 0 cost attacks. Even Veronica ballistas get buffed by that.
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>>552048109
>Do other games let you actually romance your girls
Yes, usually through the phone messaging system or giving the character a few date events/story events.
>with meaningful progression?
No. At most they'll sell you wedding rings so you can feel like you married your waifu but at best it gives you a wedding dress skin and a few lines.

Gachafags tend to be tribalistic retards though and it's been known since the 4chan hack that there's groups of unironic autists stirring shit or starting gacha wars with mods looking the other way so most gacha threads on this site end up this way unless they're unironically dead and not meme dead. And sometimes even the dead threads can have spergouts anyway if someone dares disturb the dead since gacha threads are often the same posters which means the same shitposts.
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>>552049334
I wish they would do those surveys other gacha games do so that people tell them to make a fucking character with all their epis being functional just like sereniel
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>>552048734
I don't disagree. Well, except the weird part there are robot murders around that Yuki's squad and Westmacott were investigating. Having robot citizens felt really weird. But aside that the Event's writing felt like a good direction.
We got balance of despair and comedy, we got the Chaos exploration to investigate what was going on in Lab 0 ourselves until Parts 2 and 3 dropped confirming that, we got worldbuilding on other planets and factions etc.
And we got blacked out drunk.
I don't have many complaints there aside the huge delay between releases. But considering they were likely rewriting on the fly what they could, I understand.
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>>552049417
nice i'm going to build her this run
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>>552049651
Agreed there too. We also have to deal with generic ''+1 Morale'', ''+2 Fortitude'' epiphanies polluting the pool.
Tressa's situation should have taught them it's a horrible idea to make 1 epiphany that stands above all else. Everyone just went into Chaos reseting until making a proper deck.
Meanwhile Sereniel's epiphanies may have differing levels of consistency but you can still properly build a really good deck with her and land on the top rankings with it.
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Why are the double rewards only 3 times a day
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>>552049875
Not much to build other than removing basics so you can get a functionally 3 card d*ck for her.
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>pov they forgot to give you epiphanies
oh nyo...
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Sereniel snu snu
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>>552049058
>ones you're unlikely to ever care about
Owen, Maribell, Selena, Nia, Beryl, Magna, Amir, Lucas
>ones that are usable or niche but don't require them due to their role or how their kit works
Mika, Rei, Tressa, Khalipe
>the rest
Yuki, Veronica, Hugo, Kayron

I'd say either Yuki or Veronica for extra damage that will increase your farm speed. Veronica is a staple for save farming because she has so many unique cards that cannot be copied and her ballista is free damage. Yuki is great for daily missions since she does AoE damage.
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>>552050581
HAHAHAHA the fucking lasers
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>>552050581
why did you get 2 negotiate
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Fuck, I can't clear difficulty IX for the event chaos
Rainbowdog just btfo'd me
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>>552050898
Thanks for your reply, I had already decided on veronica and then hugo, but thanks for reassuring my thoughts.
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>>552051395
leaderboard tech
morale is pretty good
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>>552051541
which modifiers? fortify is super hard for newbs
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>>552040428
and how much do you take from smilegate? hmmm?
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>>552047131
Best weapon and accessory, most divine events, best convert event. A good run will make the best possible deck for her it just takes a lot of runs
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>>552050827
she wouldn't let you
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>>552051618
Gangrene or the one that cut your max health in half
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>>552051783
rerolling even chaos is super cheap just get ez modifiers if you struggle
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Around what was the cutoff for masters in the first half? I'm <200 right now but I don't know if it'll hold for another 2 weeks
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>>552052098
What's ne easier ones? I'vebeen rerolling for a while, a bunch of the enemy fortify or morale boosting ones seem absolute shit
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The reroll system to get different save data cap is such a bullshit mechanic
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>>552052723
-credits and no rest is probably the easiest ones
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>>552052470
I think it was around 800 or so
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>>552053030
No rest and gangrene imo.
-credits does nothing to overall difficulty, but can be a bitch when you're fishing for specific items and card in the shop.
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>>552053382
well if you are a newcutie you can get oneshot by the dog with gangrene
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>>552053893
thats instant 8 agony, is that bad?
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>>552054096
No problems, it worked out
I wish I was working on her d*ck instead, I was trying to farm Selena's recharge d*ck
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>>552053893
thats not bad tho
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Damn
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>>552054426
Gotta have some karmic balance huh
>>552054552
I don't like losing afterglow on laser
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>double drop event
>don't know the next banner role or element so can't prefarm
It sucks.
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What card dupes does Sereniel want?
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Hugo is fun in chaos, why do you guys hate him?
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Eating the cheese off of Dellang's horsecock. She busted it out like a can of biscuits. That thing has a nice gruyere vibe to it.
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>>552054738
Instinct. We don't know the role, but she might be either Controller or Vanguard.
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>>552054862
Furry trash can stay in ZZZ
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>>552054920
our furry trash
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>>552054910
there should be a zero system upgrade that lets dellang ask us to suck her futa dong off behind her van for a massive discount on her items
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>>552054910
...full?
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where are my divines man ;(
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>>552054917
Where is that from
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>>552054910
pubetrannies, everyone.
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>>552055710
It's on the official website. Euphina is Order, Narja is Instinct.
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Trvke
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So I don't use Tr*ssa what the fuck is her weapon?
Does she use knives or do the floaty things fire them like cannons
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>>552055828
>UTC+9 confirmed
Dicklet timezone, lmao
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>>552055926
she uses her vagina on my penis
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>>552054738
Is there even a best thing to farm?
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if i want a good deck, do i go for 11 tiers? or 12?
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>got a good +1AP laser
>only get the chance to be duped 1 time

i want to end it all, at least i got a somewhat decent deck
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>anti-pubes schizo got triggered
>no one even posted pubes
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>>552056251
13 (12 in deep trauma)
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>>552049417
Wait the ballista's count as 0 cost? Does that make foggy ball bis?
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>>552056251
At least tier 12 + Deep Trauma (+1 tier and higher epiphany rates). You can try tier 11 or even 10 w/ DT, but the point limit will be rather tight.
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>>552056407
so 14?
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>>552055349
The artist is Xipa
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>>552055828
>>552056187
Oof.
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What the fuck is going on in the /wuwa/ general? I'm asking here because this is the 2nd home of /wuwa/as we all know
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>>552056562
13/14/15 with deep trauma endabled yes
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>>552056562
try to find easy modifiers, discard a card is doable but depends on your 3rd one

also for deck farming just go difficulty VI, it doesn't change anything
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>>552056414
Yeah but I reckon you can get better gear elsewhere if you're looking for a support Vero. Lab 0 has the rocket cape, for one.
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>>552056867
It's almost New Years day and you're still spamming this thread like it's your day job.
Hope you have either a job offer or your suicide planned because spending another year like this sounds really sad.
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>>552056867
I've never gone in the wuwa general. I've read like fifteen different generals over the years and only four of them have been gacha games. I think you and everyone else who is constantly posting in every gacha and mmo general is psychotic.
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>>552057310
>>552056562
sorry not VI, difficulty VIII. level 80.

the tiers dont improve past thst
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>>552056251
Be white and go for 14 (15 with DT).
This lets you do:
>2 removes (50)
>3rd remove from Mutant (0) for no basics
>3 copies of a card (40)
>A divine on all 4 copies (80)
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>>552056246
Potential mats are the biggest time sink imo when you aim for 5/5 crit rate and crit damage.
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>>552057494
is 14 even possible?
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>>552058491
Yes. It's really handy to roll for one if you're planning to build some 0 card decks. It's possible to make 0 cards on t13 (dt14) but it's harder to do
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>Toast on Outskirts tunnel
Fuck off
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>>552058491
Yes and once you get it make sure not to beat the final boss because you can reuse it.
Can take over 100 refreshes or more.
The new update made it even easier to do because with the 2nd post boss you also get a shop right before it.
This means as long as you trigger the Dark Core you can finish the wolf for the 2nd copy, beat the 1st post boss, then hit the shop 1 last time before escaping the mission.
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>>552058715
>if you're planning to build some 0 card decks
how so?
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is this any good
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>>552059178
lol
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>>552059178
bwo... it's garbage...
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>>552059163
Remove 5 costs exactly 170 points.
Assuming you have the 1st potential unlocked each unit starts with a 6 card deck. So you need the Mutant Sample but you can remove 6 for 170 that way as long as you never get any epiphanies.
You technically can do it for under 170 but it's absurdly difficult. You need to get cards that convert to common and then remove those (while also getting Mutant Sample and never getting an ephiphany)
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>>552059178
>random enemies
Means 1 btw :)
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>>552058715
Deep trauma 15 has 170 faint memory which is just enough for 4 removes through shops or events. That's enough to get rid of all the starting cards of a 0 potential character and you can take advantage of the remove 2 kyrken option to try and get rid of them all quicker. You can use a [remove] conversion to get rid of a random epiphany proc, but you won't always need it. There's a solid chance you're done by the first checkpoint or the first shop after a checkpoint when things line up.

With deep trauma 14 you're forced to use the convert card kyrken option, so there's a huge chance you proc at least 1 combatant epiphany by the time you get 4 removal opportunities so you're basically required to get the [remove] conversion event. Even if things line up you're probably going to be in the inner area by the time you finish
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>>552058715
What are the use cases of a 0 card deck? Like I obviously get why it's good, but wouldn't something like a 0 cost card with draw 1 and something else end up more beneficial?
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>>552059178
It would be good if it didn't cost like fucking 3 god epiphanies to put into your deck.
That shit is very slightly better than a blue/gold neutral card, but the game treats them as if it's better than purples. Idk why, retarded devs.
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>>552060807
>but wouldn't something like a 0 cost card with draw 1 and something else end up more beneficial?
Yes. You can use the same idea to build a deck like that too.
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>>552060807
plug'n'play with any other setup, fewer opportunities for the auto AI to be retarded. I personally agree that a 2 or even up to 4 with upgrades deck is more effective, but a literal empty deck is simpler.
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>>552060807
Well for 1 it's faster when farming.
Also getting a perfect 1 card deck is argubably harder because you'd need to potentially remove 7 cards which is impossible.
Once you remove every card, you won't get any more ephianies.
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how does peko's ego skill work? does it set up a delayed trigger for one time, or does it make a status that for the rest of the battle when an ally ravages they get the overclock?
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>>552061341
It's every time you ravage after using her ego skill that battle
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>7 credits off from removing the last basic
>No Ore Vein
Is it a brick? I'm so tired of grinding
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>>552060978
>>552061004
>>552061007
I see, the AI thing does make a lot of sense for farming, and I guess not every character is as easy as Veronica to make a strictly positive deck with. I'll keep an eye out for high tier worlds when I get to that point.
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>>552061648
well no equipment for the 0 cost but it's okay to me
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>>552061648
pretty poggies my dude
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>>552061648
I basically have the same deck and I'm at Master right now. Vuln lasers are quite good if you use it right.
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>>552059178
>an 80 cost faint memory card that's a worse version of Magna's epi that lets her hit all enemies at the end of the turn
lol
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>>552064421
buff this cat
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Just started playing, do I bother rerolling? I've barely gotten any standard rolls so far but the game handed out 20 limited for free.
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>>552064554
see >>552018004
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>>552064554
>>552064714
can't her do it for Seri?
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>>552064554
The smartest choice would be to Reroll for Sereniel. Since she is limited and you won't be able to get her in a long time.
The other characters you will end up getting after a while.

Just don't burn yourself rerolling.
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hecking finally Nia E6+Rei carried hard
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>>552064889
omedetou, i still haven't gotten past X because dog fucking mollywhopped me with 500x4 multihits on top of Selena mindbreaking
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>>552064876
>>552064714
reading about it it sounds like I lost out on a ton of rolls (including the standard ones that let you do the beginner banner within a sensible amount of time) because the prereg rewards are gone
man I feel demotivated
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>>552065709
its not like you NEED those rolls since you'll end up playing with only 6 characters mostly anyway
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>>552065709
its only like 20 standard rolls
genuinely nothing too important, as long as the characters you get at the start are fun enough for you, you will have no issues. This game is easy enough to beat with anything aslong as you are not retarded and understand how to play deckbuilders.
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>>552065709
Yeah, well we had no clue who to reroll for at launch anyway lmao. People were jealous of my Rin/Orlea account back then and I haven't touched either of them in ages.
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>>552066471
bro can you lend them to me? ill touch them heaps
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wowee
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>>552067493
Nice, enjoy only having that pop up on copy events
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>>552067493
at least you got the right base epi, haven't seen that in 3 runs
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>>552067493
>gets eaten up by two non-ravage lasers
bwo...
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>>552065709
who you want to roll for:
luke (if you're not afraid of dudes), mei lin, veronica, sereniel (all 5 stars)
cassius, nia, rei, mika, beryl (all 4 stars)
dups are good if you have 6 of them
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>>552064876
>>552065839
>>552065981
>>552066471
Holy fug
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woweezowee
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>>552059178
No monster card is worth the save data.
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>>552068589
I kneel
Welcome aboard and enjoy your T0 guinea pig angel wife and T5 Yuki Yuki is actually good in AoE battles and most Green nodes tend to be AoE
Rush the main story and start the event. Main Story's start is good but afterwards it quickly gets bad since they fired the original writer. Event is on his replacement which is good.
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>>552068963
>since they fired the original writer
ah fuck, I liked the ptsd and (literal) mindbreak so far
And Yuki is sexo, no better time to get an underwhelming unit than at the stat when anything goes.
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I'm thinking Orlea
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>>552069235
>3 Magna
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>>552069235
Starting to think my roster isn't looking that bad after all
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>>552068589
>the two hottests bitches in the game
fucking newcutie lucknigger
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>>552069235
bwo how do you play the game?
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>>552069235
Bwo you have enough bricks...
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wowee?
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>>552069712
>duplicating upgrade cards
Anon, I...
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>>552069181
>ah fuck, I liked the ptsd and (literal) mindbreak so far
Yeah and it would have been good if the story was like that and the Trauma Codes but you will see a decline in quality by Chapter 4.
The original guy is in Blue Archive now.
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>>552069514
>>552069569
>bwo
Go back to your shithole
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alright so i got my stupid e1 + used the dupe ego from the event for e2 sereniel can i please have fucking 60% crit rate on her 4 piece +2piece atk% set now game please
i've gone through hundreds of crafts for this stupid fucking crit rate
At this rate i'm going to have to violate peko to make up for it
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>>552070069
gro...
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>>552069181
Main story is pretty average gacha story, it's okay.
""people"" just say it's bad because there's a scene in chapter 4 where the MC gets manhandled and it mindbroke everyone because they can't self-insert into a weakling
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>>552070107
it took me ~150 crafts, good luck anon
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>>552070354
thx, i'm being fucked by the boots and chest. i just need an atk% boot with 4% crit rate and i'm safe it's been over a week of crafting... i hate korean gear systems so much
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>>552070508
>korean
Chinese*, its the mihomo system
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>>552070656
>>552070656
>>552070656

Suddenly, a Rei of light appears
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>>552070620
i wish chink gearing isn't as cancerous as gooks.
at least its an upgrade over the super gook games like dfo



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