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>Fate Project New Year's Eve TV Special, F/GO 10-Year Journey -Beyond History-:
●Broadcast Date: Wednesday December 31, 23:00 JST.
▶Broadcast Content: Interviews with guests to be announced.
▶TV: TOKYO MX, BS11.
▶Streaming: NicoNico, ABEMA.
https://www.aniplex.co.jp/fateproject/

>Part 2 Final Chapter:
▶Requirements: Clear OC IV.
▶The period to receive 1000 Saint Quartz has been extended until December 31 if you clear OC IV.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter/

>Part 2 Final Chapter Pre-Opening Campaign:
●December 10~31 JST.
▶All Servants:
-Double the EXP when strengthening.
-Chances of getting a Great/Super Success will
▶Limited Master missions: 23 Stargazer's Teapots, 23 Golden Apples,
12 Beast's Footprints and 5 Compass of Retrospection.
▶Every servant will have 50% NP Charge at the start of any Main quest.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/cil_final_chapter_cp/

>All Servants PU summon:
●December 10~31 JST.
▶Every Servant of FGO will be on rotation for the rest of December.
▶Extra Class:
-30~31 JST.
▶Artoria Pendragon (Lily), Oda Nobukatsu, Mary Anning, Habetrot
and Kishinami Hakuno (M/F) will be featured in the FP gacha.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_all_pu/

>/fgog/ Friendlist form and spreadsheet (2025):
https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1leQ09m5klFajbCcededkANJfeMiAmVz-PbCI_r7xyXc/edit?usp=sharing

>Utility links:
https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
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With Wada noticing I feel it's a soft confirmation something is going to happen
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Invest in Fakeout Coin RIGHT NOW
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True ending soon
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I'm putting together a team to end the simulation.
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KEEP NOTICING
KEEP ANALYZING
KEEP HOPING
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>>551989474
Thank fuck, finally a normal thread. Thankyou OP
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Wada became a fellow NOOOOTICER
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Stop noticing. There is nothing to notice.
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Garbage game
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Nothing is going to happen
This is the end
FGO is over
You should go out and find something else to do with your life
There is nothing to notice
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>Ending is a "good ending" until you notice the entire artillery Checkov didn't bother firing, which doesn't make sense with Nasu's overcomplicated autist bullshit
>Increasingly long grocery list of shit that inexplicably doesn't work the way its supposed to in the game's goddamn UI that is either unaddressed or should be fixed with the other bugs that came with this.
>Social media inexplicably isn't addressing Part 2 as complete, just like the game itself.
>We KNOW Nasu likes meta shit like Undertale, and we quite literally had the game bring up the timelock.
>Marisbury's plan was entirely based on the idea that a hollow imitation can be enough to deceive the literal origin of the universe, something that we've seen happen via projection magecraft elsewhere(like a goddamn observatory's projector)
>Maris-Chaldea's entire point is to BE the universe's admin and has already shown the capacity to bullshit things, and it very clearly needed time to complete itself that we weren't giving it during the raid (a raid that was suspiciously botted to end at a specific time mentioned prior, meaning Lasengle is explicitly messing with the app to meet in-universe storytelling)
>People dismissing all of this claim either it's good the story ended this way (focusing on a superficial appearance of victory as good enough), presume "they didn't feel like x" (not thinking beyond the surface), or erroneously assume that because implementing literal VN endings would be annoying there is only the illusion of choice (almost as if GOD DOESN'T CARE EITHER WAY)
Well, /fgog/? Did you?
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Epilogue is going to follow Loli Vinci's year life in the new world where she meets some of the characters in the journey. Like Gordolf or Kadoc.
Something to say, "they are still out there." Before she shuts down, she returns home, where she's greeted by big Vinci, Romani and Olga (in her third ascension look minus horn).
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Very productive previous thread

Perhaps too productive, we now know too much
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>>551989704
I dont think theres a secret ending because every time /fgog/ starts to theorize theres some big lockout twist nothing happens.

Remember you fags all getting worked up over the dogshit idol collab being some huge twist with your schizo theories on the map?
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I don't care about olga
I demand my beast screen and remix
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>>551989552
No, we are going to get a text crawl that tells you Da Vinci is dead like in FF9 Vivi got.
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>>551989783
Yeah remember when the retards here theorized kiara would be playable because the planets were backwards on her boss fight?
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JETS went to comiket
https://x.com/nico_nico_news/status/2005845858139750515
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>>551989852
Yeah that one was truly crazy who the hell actually thinks we're getting another servant to summo-
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>>551989848
The first epilogue is from Big Vinci's POV. It's inevitable because Nasu likes parallels. Loli Vinci is still alive for a year. It's gonna be through her eyes.
She'll even look at (you) (the player) with a cg, and chirply said "It was a BEEAAAUTIFUL JOURNEY."
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>>551990000
based quads
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Almost finishing chudgunksa. How did koyan become a beast if she dosent give a fuck about humanity? Don't you have to love humanity to become one?
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>>551989957
>It changed from Bunyan to Angra
Damn
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>>551990000
Cursed quads
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All I know is that after Dec 31 the main JP FGO website and FGO X will definitely get updated with something new.
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Hope is dead
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>first title BMG
https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/bgm/10
>the one after the "final boss"
https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/bgm/974
Similar but different.
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Gudako is a BBC magnet
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>>551990000
I love BBW
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>>551989786
>No advent beast
>No clear screen
>Far too many things left unexplained
>No horns
>Olga's soul was keeping all the evils of the world away from Maris Chaldeas from absorbing so it couldn't reach completion
>Countdown clock ingame telling you to wait until 12/31
>There is no NEXT icon for two very specific points in the final chapter, if means something
>While it superficially looks like we returned to the original Chaldea screen from the start of the game with the same music, the song is actually entirely different, it sounds like the old song at first but quickly goes off rhythm
>We're still stuck in the simulation
>Also there's a glowing orb at the top of the screen that people have shown is there very intentionally, they've pulled this same thing four times before, the same orb.
>Lev says da vinci lily can't die until she completes some mission, but she lives to the end, even though she starts blanking out at one point
>Characters seem to quickly cover up or sweep things so it looks like a happy ending so you don't notice things more, you don't look closer. The beast of analysis, but the true nature of analysis is "shallow superficial analysis"
>No explanation who killed bluebook, it was someone who used the opposite hand for the gun than marisberry. Or why they removed bluebook's skin
>Before the final battle they repeat maris Chaldea NP, but with one scene added, an image of grail mud being poured down

Even Japanese and Chinese fans are starting to notice, the ending is wrong somehow
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>>551989474
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>>551990371
It's likely going to be resolved in part 3.
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>>551990135
>Ominous piano plays at that part.
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>>551990489
I don't think you understand
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31st, the day all copers die.
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Musashi's approved Kirschtaria Wodime.
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>>551990501
Guda/ko... Play the piano
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WAIT AND HOPE
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>>551990371
>No explanation who killed bluebook, it was someone who used the opposite hand for the gun than marisberry. Or why they removed bluebook's skin
The entire bluebook death is weird, the hologram says its for personal reasons, but we never learn why, or why it gloated about it before his death.

>>551989693
Also this too seems interesting.
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>>551989561
turn the cat into mashu's lion husband
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>>551989957
>Player 0000000001
>The first player to exist
>Obviously one of the devs
>Had Bunyan as their servant for the tree battles
>Today they changed it to grailed Angra
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>>551990562
Oh so he is in adventures.
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True Time Travel is the Fifth Magic. Chaldea (a scientific organization) shouldn't be able to do it.

The "Swap" Logic: If we connect this to the Marisbury theory, Rayshifting isn't moving you to the past; it’s mapping your soul onto a coordinate in a simulation (CHALDEAS) and then "proving" that your existence there is real.

The "Ship of Theseus" / Digital Ghost Theory
If Rayshifting isn't time travel, what happens to Guda's body every time they "Shift"?

Decomposition: To Rayshift, your body is converted into pseudo-spiritrons (data).

The Trip: Your "data" is sent to the coordinate.

Recomposition: You are reconstructed at the destination.

The Return: The process repeats to bring you home.

The Mystery: After hundreds of Rayshifts (from Singularities to Remnants to Lostbelts), is there even one original atom left in Guda?

In Ordeal Call, it’s hinted that Guda’s "existence" is becoming dangerously thin.

By "hiding from Gaia" so many times, Guda might have accidentally deleted their "Humanity" record from the Throne of the World. They are now a collection of "proof of life" stamps with no original document underneath.

Why Guda? (The "Master" of Nothing)
You mentioned Marisbury needed a "match" to swap the Earths. If Guda is the "Ship of Theseus"—a human made entirely of Chaldea’s data—then Guda is the perfect observer.

To "prove" the simulated Earth is real, you need a "Human" to observe it and say "this is real."

But a Magus would observe it through the lens of Magecraft.

Marisbury needed a normal person whose common sense would act as the "anchor" for the fake reality.

The Question of the "Vessel"
If Guda has become a Ship of Theseus, then the "Guda" we are playing now might literally be a living Rayshift. This would explain why they can withstand the "bleached" environment and the extreme spiritron pressure of the Ordeal Call. They aren't "in" the world; they are "projected" onto it.
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>>551990000
/literallyme/
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>>551989830
DOTCHADS were the real noticers
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>>551990715
>>551990771
Yes, he's this volume's cameo. I don't know what he's doing, just saw that image posted.
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I'll save Olga
I'll save Sion


You can't stop me maris
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>>551990562
Case files Olgas Husband
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>>551991014
Cool, hope he is doing well
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>>551990715
Kinda obvious all the crypters will eventually. Case files exists to explore clock tower shit. In a world line where there was no Chaldea, all the crypters are still in clock tower.
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Why do beasts have to have horns?
Kama had horns and then they cracked and she got Blue Archive halo thing.
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>>551989957
Have we found Nasu and Takeuchi yet?
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Wait and cope.
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>>551990000
I guess I fed too much food to olga
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>>551990950
Her sister says it isn't because that would intrude on Zelretch's magic.
The time travel part is a byproduct of whatever Aoko's master is supposed to do.
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Doomfags will kneel
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>>551990838
>True Time Travel is the Fifth Magic. Chaldea (a scientific organization) shouldn't be able to do it.
Moneybill created Olga with Third Magic application. He can do whatever the fuck he wants clearly.
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>>551991128
Even if that's true the ball never actually forms properly to be given horns
This also ignores that her 3rd ascension has that halo too
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>>551990501
Wondering if that dissonant opening chord is in the full release of that remix whenever it comes out. It doesn't really fit with the rest of the songs timbre. Hell, most of Gyakko is major key if I remember correctly, weird to start with that spooky ass minor dissonant chord.
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>>551989783
Since when were you under the impression that "credits" make an "ending?"
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>>551991207
>The time travel part is a byproduct of whatever Aoko's master is supposed to do.
I still think its just event manipulation.
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>>551991312
Bananzabros did this actually happen?
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>>551990000
damn I didn't know Guda was Jamaican
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>>551991128
Authority of the beast
It's their "crown"
Crowns are designed to look like horns, or horns are designed to look like crowns, chicken or the egg
In order to be a beast you need an authority, you need a crown
Kama's halo evolved to the point that it almost implies what exists beyond the crown is the halo

Breasts as a concept are based entirely around mother harlot and the beast of Babylon
Who has ten crowns which represented his dominion over the people on earth
All beasts stole the concept
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>>551990000
Sauce?
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>>551989783
Who said ending comes with one.
Who said lostbelt start from 1 to 7
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>>551989783
Remember when people realized Arcade wasn't just a retelling of Part 1?
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>>551991373
>Kama's halo evolved to the point that it almost implies what exists beyond the crown is the halo
Kama was a fucking larva. The real horn of Mara just looks like a halo. Maybe Beast VII "horns" are the wings.
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>>551990678
>The entire bluebook death is weird, the hologram says its for personal reasons, but we never learn why, or why it gloated about it before his death.
IF it was simulating malice billy then it could actually be simple and kind of humanizing that he shot alt-daybit because daybit shot him
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>>551991268
I think in LB6 Morgan told you specifically to look into the truth of rayshifting, it isn't what you think it is
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Did you guys forgot Crab ma? She has the horns, she just evolved after Kiara "died" since she absorbed her
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>>551991389
https://x.com/Icantdravv/status/2005877356091637983
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>>551991373
>Breasts as a concept are based entirely around mother harlot and the beast of Babylon
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>>551991453
This being the case even larva get advent beast screens
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>>551991373
Breasts
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>>551991373
>Breasts as a concept are based entirely around mother harlot and the beast of Babylon
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>>551990903
>Mashu was already beginning to lose her powers when she held up the rope with Guda and Olga
Had that started earlier all three of you would have fallen into that hole
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>Breasts
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>>551991335
I think it's some bullshit like being able to go back and forth between the end of things, which is why she ends up in random places like with shota Shiki or the Moon Cell and why her MB attack shares the same name as Goetia's plan.
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>check player ID 000,000,001's grands
>bunyan, angra and... swimsuit miyu
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>551991550
Who
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>>551991373
So, that's why everyone is flat in the ending. Breasts are evil and this is the good world.
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>>551991529
what a fucking goldmine
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Reminder that they never promoted this as the end of FGO, look at the screen, it STILL says 終章開幕 - START of the final chapter

For reference, Girls und Panzer also has a final chapter. Episode 1/7 of the final chapter aired in 2017. The latest episode was 4 in 2023. Episode 5 is coming in 2025. No dates on 6/7 yet.

This was all episode 0 of the final chapter like the screen literally says. >>551989830

Episode 1 of the final chapter of FGO part 2 will be up next November. Total 10 episodes planned.
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>>551991550
What am I looking at?
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>>551991650
>Bunyan's existence is a goddamn lie that continues to propagate
>Summer Miyu is mentally unstable and uses a Greater Grail analogue to Illya everything
>Angry Mango is a zero star incomplete Evil of Humanity that needs a despairing "priestess" to reach max fuckery, just like how Maris-Chaldea needs Olga.
nooticing
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>>551991650
Prisma is the main story. This is why they collab with everything.
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>>551991758
>Episode 5 is coming in 2025
They better hurry because they are running out of time in that case.
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"At the root of it lies 'ill will toward humanity.' One must not forget that."
But we know that isn't the case with beasts, holmes should know that.
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Enkidu? For me
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>>551991758
Seeing as they dragged out the final with all different timelocks, I was jokingly thinking that maybe the final will be dragged out through all of 2026. Maybe I was right.
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>>551992183
36 hours left until the Extra remake release
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I don't often remember dreams but today i had a quite self indulgent dream about Daybit (mostly fluff things). It was nice.
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>>551991550
Cute Melty Sion
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TRUE NAME REVEAL
Ruler Sherlock Holmes
v
v
v
Pretender Herlock Sholmes
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>>551992210
The Sherlock we see isn't our Holmes. It's actually his alter, the master of deception and disguise. He even hinted at it.
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>>551992624
>What’s wrong master? You did save Olga.
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>>551991550
So Sion will be more like this on the new timeline?
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>>551992405
There's really not a good reason why it's hidden beneath 2 folders in the records for sure
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This appears for one(1) single frame in the final chapter trailer. It's in a montage with all of the title screens but I'm 99.99% sure this was never a title screen.
Wasn't Stellar Olga-Marie specifically warning us about something from "outside" of the barrier?
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>>551992787
ah yeah that hole wasnt explained yet too
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>>551989576
>Hey Guda, did she even really exist?
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>>551992787
THIS IS MY LAST HOPE
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>>551991754
I don't know how event manipulation brings you to the birth of the planet.
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Part 3 is gonna be aliens invading and there gonna be so much worse then even lb6 fae that we'll have people saying marisbury was right
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>>551989474
News and 1 tix
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/tvspecial2025/
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>>551991653
>>551991825
Sion.
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The memory of holmes in your head reminds you not to trust his conclusion as well
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Okay what the fuck is going on there's news that we get 1 ticket for the stream pre campaign but the official Twitter hasn't said shit about it
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what's the id of the billibilli guy that always streams every year again?
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>>551992948
easily, just think of it like a RPG maker game, you can just "activate" the a cutscene, doing so brings you to it regardless of where you where before, it teleports you through time and space to it, aoko can just bring herself to a event or a event to herself, plus do it with others, etc.
its my view of the fifth.
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>>551992985
>purple and familiar colour
that totally not GALAHAD guys
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>>551993065
Story isn't over yet
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>>551993065
Twitter is still doing its ARG thing
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They changed the header of the stream, it was white and golden now it's purple and gloomy
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>>551992787
Maybe it's the next actual title screen
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>>551993195
schizo, its probably mashu. Stop looking into it
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News Doko?
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>>551992787
also notice that MC isnt wearing the plugsuit from the sleeves. Its the one from the very day one of the game
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>>551993195
You're right, it's HIM
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>>551992862
The hole was explained with olga 4 cracking the skybox
>>551992787
It being in the title montage portion is weird but directly after it counts to the 1
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>>551992787
That's explained already.
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>>551993461
who is this
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>>551993571
Alcides
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>>551993195
Could be Servant Universe Sion. Both are purple.
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>>551992908
>Anyway, $4 an egg
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>>551993618
i-i kneel
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>Farmed about 700 quartz from the Bonds
>Could splurge them straight away on the NY servant if it's a cool one
>Or could be patient and hope for a FSF collab and Alcides
>But with how retarded Lasagna has always been, there's probably nothing related to FSF planned at all
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>551990745
according to the chinks, before Bunyan it was Mashu for OC4
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It's about fucking time someone did that mass effect 3 indoctrination theory for real in their story.
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>>551993647
It’s Dust of Osiris
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I just want to say I don't really believe in the new ending theory, but I like to see everyone waiting and hoping.
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>>551993825
You joke but Tsukihime R is literally "what if the Eva rebuild films actually delivered on their promised premise" and Nasu does play western games
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>I will remember this Day, even if only in tiny bit
NASUUUUUUUU
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>>551993647
sionbro we are back...
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>December 31st arrives
>People say "see I knew you were all full of it"
>No one here actually doubled checked and saw that the counter said 12/31 23:59
I can see people saying it already
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>>551993959
I just wanna see Boy's Love coping, even if it's still a reset ending
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>>551993984
She said you'll meet a diffferent version of her. And she already had a WAAAHROLLFORMEMASTA moment.
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>>551989957
is it possible to have enough Angra copies to have everything maxed out normally?
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>>551994072
We all know it's after new years stream anon
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>>551994072
The opposite of wait and hope is hurry and despair, after all
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>>551992624
>>551993048
>Did you enjoy your journey so far?
>It must have had been a satisfying conclusion.
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>>551991650
Miyu is a Grail. A very schizo one
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>>551993959
I'm not even sure what I think is going to happen, I just know that what we got isn't the end because how the fuck are you going to make Tokyo Guda with no magic circuits or whatever do further servant events in the future? SOMETHING has to happen, because what we got doesn't mesh with what we know we will be getting in the future.
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>>551994115
If you've been playing long enough you will be drowning in FP so yea
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Right, Olga is the final tree
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>>551994072
Its the new years, anyone thinking its before that is a retard
>>551994115
you would need a lot of luck, i have been playing since the beginning of the LBs and i have no Angras.
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>>551994226
why is gudako black
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>>551994231
There's going to be an epilogue. That's what's missing.
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STOP THINKING ABOUT IT TOO MUCH
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Now's that the game's story is ending which servant you fapped to most?
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>>551994115
I have like 10 Angras in 9ish years of playing
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>>551994286
pls no
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>>551994115
Probably but my Angra coins are bugged.
Despite having 12 copies which is 600 coins before Bond, I only have 650.
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>>551994115
I've played since the 72 hour launch maintenance hell and while I'm sitting on 8 mil FP currently I've definitely consumed at least 8 mil on FP rolls and have never gotten a single Angra copy. I've NP5'd all the 4* that are available, finished up Hakuno and Hakunon easily, never Angry however.
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>>551994231
Guda has magic circuits, it's just that they are shitty ones
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>>551994332
I am thinking about you all this time and I need to analyze your sq
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>no maint
uhhhhh fakeoutards?
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>>551993048
where is this from?
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>>551994484
Olga 4 quest it's the prologue portion
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>>551992967
More like marisbury plan is kinder than Alien
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>>551994414
8 mil is small time, you make that in less than a year
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>>551994521
Marisbury's plan would be the whole fucking reason why aliens would be on our ass
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>>551994332
I DON'T WANT TO BE IN EDEN I WANT TO THINK I WANT TO STRUGGLE I WANT TO EXTRAPOLATE LET ME OOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUT.
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>>551994286
Yeah that's also odd.
Malice says Olga killed humans who had her circuits to take them back so why didn't she reabsorb the one left on the table
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>>551994301
Overuse of circuits makes you black
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Watch how Nasu explains the ending on his blog like he did with Last Encore kek.
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>>551994374
Rider.
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>>551994639
You are trap here with us little bro
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>>551994674
>couldn't implement the advent beast screen
>couldn't implement the clear screen
>couldn't get a final form done in time
>all the bluebook parts not making sense was because of blah blah
>prior holmes suspicions were bait
I'll call him a hack and move on 2 fuck ups of that magnitude are enough for me
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>>551994674
100% happening.
We'll just get Loli Vinci Last Episode epilogue.
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The ending is growing on me.
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>>551994674
Surely he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. There's a reason no one fucking wants to talk about Extra shit.
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>>551994286
What did happen to the person on the floor? Why are only the nerves left and the rest missing?
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Nasu's sin was writing such a easy to understand ending because autists that can't take simple emotional cues at face value think there's something deeper
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>>551994374
probably the bicorn if I'm to be honest
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>>551994936
Shut up Moneybills
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>>551991758
>>551992405
Wait a fucking second
Story materials for Final chapter is not listed inside 2, it has its own separate entry like 1.5 and OC

Why would they do that if it was just one chapter as opposed to an entirely new (mini) part?
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>>551994859
If this were a visual novel I wouldn't mind it, it's a bit hack and cliche but it's not offensive, not sure what retards were screeching about day 1. It's just incongruent with a game that is most definitely going to continue after this story. How do we get back to summoning servants and all that nonsense, and how does that answer not undercut the message of this ending?
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>>551994936
I got the emotional parts the autistic side of me won out in the end.
Thematically the ending makes sense but he also repeated himself so much and then also copied undertale, how am I supposed to be ok with that?
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>>551995007
Because the big twist of the final chapter is that it's not just the final of part 2 but the entirity of fgo spanning to part 1...
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>>551995013
>not sure what retards were screeching about
the same crow that cried about Deku probablu
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Sion didn't die, she just turned into a egg.
Everyone got egged in the end
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>>551994895
say that to those Hakunos spammers lol
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>>551994936
I think it's shit after hammering down how almost every servant wants Guda to remember them.
Story going LOL JUST FORGOT about it, is ass.
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>>551991129
they have normal acc, not dev acc
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I really find it funny how people trying to discredit the fakeout theory only focus on the superficial parts of "me no likey the ending" and refuse to look under the surface to see all the inconsistencies.
Quite fitting.
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inb4 people waiting until NY on that decision screen just gets a single rider gem on login as a personal message from nasu to move on
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>>551995493
It's likely IF this holds out they just will have the option of making either choice
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We are so back
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>>551995582
*smack*
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>>551995448
doesn't occam's razor deal with most of the theory though
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>b-but there's still things that need to be explained
yeah, on a material book. The game is OVER. That was the end.
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what if they just have a brand new protagonist in part 3
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>>551994639
Shouldn't have let Adam taste that fruit of wisdom
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Very interesting. They are being secretive about the stream except that it's FGO related
No guests list either
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>>551995768
>Occam's razor
So true bestie. Just like this ending is basically 1984 of Nasuverse! A true Dunning-Kruger effect!
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>>551990562
Are they still doing clap adventures with Shirou or are they past that?
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>>551995768
The simplest explanation being that they forgot / couldn't do certain things? Yeah it's also a shit cop out for the length of time.
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>>551995448
I'm not disputing the inconsistencies, I'm laughing at your cope that Nasu is going to save your ass with an actual real "true" ending that will totally tie up every loose end, answer ever question, let Guda keep his memories back, and launch the story straight into Part 3.
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>>551996060
So you have no arguments except your seethe, got it. No different from the rest
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>>551995941
Nasu appears, but it's just a dude in a giant mushroom mascotte costume handing over a message with what he planned to say
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most annoying and best posters as of now?
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"strongest things are small and heavy" my ass

Olga is a fucking fraud
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>>551995925
nooo, i don't want to be cucked
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>>551996131
all me
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You have to admit, the official being so quiet and secretive is intentionally creating this atmosphere.
There is no reason for them not to tweet about the campaign
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>>551996096
My argument is your delusional. Feel free to refute it with even more cope theories.
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>>551995994
It's not really occam's razor if you're presenting yourself with answers that you won't accept. You have to attempt to find the simplest reasonable answer that challenges your position. Defeats the whole purpose of the excercise.
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>>551995768
Some of them I would argue not really. Like what's the occam's razor for this final Beast not having a bespoke intro like all the other Beast fights? Time restraints? For arguably their biggest event, the finale? The most likely conclusion is gross incompetence and lack of care? But then why were they able to do it on those other Beast fights? It's a step down in quality, you're lowering expectations instead of choosing a median.
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>>551996137
Olga is small
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>>551996275
>your
Oh no no no
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Is reDrop incapable of not overdesigning their characters?
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>>551996275
>My argument is that I'm seething people talk about the game and make theories that I can't join in on since I don't
I already knew that
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Why is there still so much cope over the ending not being final…
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>>551996295
I do accept that as an answer though I just don't think it's a good one.
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>>551996409
CONNECT THE FUCKING DOTS
GRAND FAKEOUT THEORY
GRAIL MUD IN THE CUTSCENE
DOTS IN THE SKY
FUCKING NIGGER HOLMES
SION
OLGA'S GRAVITY WELL
DA VINCI EYES
MASHU MISSING NP5
OLGA NP3
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>>551996409
Stickholm syndrome
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>Wada also joined in the fakeout due to reading fusetter
Nips are really going wild spotting inconsistencies
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>>551996297
A simple source is from its profile
The lack of beast manifestation movie could be explained by how the Maris's manifestation occurs at its inception by a human's hand and the nature of the manifestation being a facade which may be why it has Independant Manifestation E-
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doomfags on suicidewatch
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fakeout niggers on suicide watch
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>>551996342
Why are all the men besides goredolf ugly and the women attractive
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>>551996510
0. INSTEAD OF 0
1 CHANGING INTO 0 INTO 1
NEW MAIN THEME
FUCKING BLUEBOOK
FOREIGNER OC
MISSING SERVANTS
000.000.001 CHANGING THEIR SUPPORT TO ANGRA
KIREI'S CLOCK
CLOCK IN THE MUSIC VIDEO
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>>551996724
Where did chair come from
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/fgog/ is going to be so much fun on the 31st
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>>551996701
At least some of the chaldea staff shown in the image are existing characters already from Case Files.
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>>551996774
0.
ゼロポイント
The origin (lostbelt)

it's pottery not subversion
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>>551996782
Just like all his explanations. Out of his ass.
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Did you rike it though
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>>551996930
Yes, beside Olga.
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>>551996510
Mashu NP4 pisses me off because they gave us the 4th one before the fight, no reason not to finish it off with the final level if it's the end. You even get the narrative satisfaction that Mashu is fighting at her apex then. A part of me wants nothing extra to be added because I haven't properly conceptualized how half baked of an ending this would be, especially for a billion dollar game. I would believe ChatGPT helped write most of it because of some of the dumb holes that a human would probably fill in.
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>>551996297
>Like what's the occam's razor for this final Beast not having a bespoke intro like all the other Beast fights?
Dramaticizing the part where Guda stands up and summons his Servants. Having a beast intro gets in the way of that.
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>>551996917
Now... the ahegao
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>>551996130
kino
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Pretty sure that actual nips care more about this "good ending" than the people trying to shutdown/demoralize the discussion here
Like, I can see a good portion of them being angry if the true one isn't possibly an happy one
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Lev not vanishing (yet) after Ars Nova is also weird since Solomon vanished basically instantly. Which should mean that he hasn't "finished his works" like Solomon yet.
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>he couldn't prease understando the straight-forward ending
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>>551996984
She was temporarily boosted to NP5 for the raids and the last fight.
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>>551997007
Imagine it
>they announce that Nasu is here wooooowww
>some dude in a giant mushroom costume walks in, as big as the Riyo Gudako or Fujimaru that are at FGOfes
>the only thing he does is bowing to the camera and giving a letter to Mafia
>steps aside while Mafia reads it
>that's it
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>>551997103
Exactly, why bother with the temporary at all, it's the grand finale. The fuck are you saving this megaelixir for, it's the final fight, dump everything. We're not coming back to get NP5, at least according to the ending. Unless of course there's another part coming later.
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>Angra support
>Grail mud in the cutscene, but not in NP animation.
>Rain sounds
Explain this atheists. You can't.
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Unironically, how am I supposed to care about the foreigner OC going off this?
It's set before right? Why would I care if I know the answers to the OC already?
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>>551997231
What makes you think the Ordeal Call isn't over?
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>>551997231
Nasu said it'd be coming at an unexpected time

It's going to be part of the final chapter the way the stupid summer event became OC4
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>>551997231
We don't know
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>>551997231
I don't think we have confirmation of when the OC is set. My schizo theory is the new years stream will lead directly into the Foreigner OC.
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I started Arknights just in case nothing happens...
So far it's ok. Let's see if the chinks know how to write not that it matters, Nasu doesn't know how to write either
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>>551997209
It's one way of saying she didn't become a full Servant in the end and went back to being a normal human being.
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>>551997363
Heaven Burns Red is the only well written gacha game
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>>551997363
Fucking don't. Just quit playing gachas.
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>>551995941
>purple
Bro it's just Galahad.
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>>551997363
I'd recommend CZN but the story is terrible if you're a lorefag.
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>>551997363
There's a lot of crossover in the fanbase, I find it funny that the jp artist who really loves Lev also drew Andoain and also the Abyssal Hunters. And the Daybitfag artist also drew arknights and gundam art.
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The problem with the fakeout theory is that there is no solution to the story since the deadline is passed and it will just kill the half of the nasuverse while the survival option presented by Maris doesn't even really assure us that we will continue our journey with "new content"
Rather, a continuation off the ending has more hope for TM lore content even if the memory isn't carried over.
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>>551997037
bro he did. Task over.
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>>551997564
Started playing that because someone mentioned it was slay the spire and darkest dungeon fused and I love both. Gameplay is good for a gacha but yeah that story is just juvenile. Worldbuilding so far is baffling and characters do not feel like they exist in the fucking apocalypse.
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Concealment The magic itself is hidden; it hides the user and their actions from the world.
Gravity The force used to compress and collapse "meaning" into a single point.
Black Hole The visual and physical metaphor for a point of total erasure.
Removal of Concepts The primary function: deleting fundamental truths from reality returning them to the Swirl of the Root
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>>551997693
The navigator brought up that the deadline isn't final during the raids, which by itself is a fucking weird thing to say
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>>551997693
>kill half of Nasuverse
>the Fate half
TsukiGODS can't stop winning.
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>>551997363
Hope you have fun. Nip event with fish aidoru soon!
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I still think there's something bigger going on with Sion. There must be a connection between the shit that just happened to her in FGO, the fact that we still don't have a release date for Red Garden and her not appearing in Type Lumina.
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>>551997959
FGO snubbed by TM. Tsukihime bros... we're on the center.
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>>551998019
I don't think anything changes for sion if something happens her story is mirroring marisbilly's but she's obviously not a piece of shit about her methods.
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>>551997959
>>551997832
>>551998090
VINDICATED AFTER 21 YEARS
THE SPOTLIGHT PROMISED TO US 25 YEARS AGO
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>>551997378
>They quietly messed with Mash's NP level for exactly ONE fight in a way the average person probably won't even notice, even though every other change in her status has been explicitly addressed in the narrative, followed by a literal UI element saying HEY LOOK AT THIS.
Are we deadass?
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Regardless of what happens tomorrow it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash.
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>>551998268
>It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash.
That's the current ending thougheverbeit.
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If tomorrow these threads don't go full turbo schizo I'm going to be disappointed.
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>>551997798
Wasn't that suggesting to Maris that she could fuck up and lose which is why in the end the navigator even suggested surrendering
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>>551998373
Aren't all lorefags waiting on 1/1?
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>>551998268
>Regardless of what happens tomorrow it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash.
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What's the coolest FGO merch piece collab with a big brand you've ever seen?
Need to make sure nothing cooler than this exists before I buy it
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>>551998268
Here comes the hedging
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>>551998134
If she wasn't planned to have a super big role she wouldn't be cockblocked from appearing in all other Type-Moon media. Surely. Sion route in Red Garden also isn't just a galactic stretch, but something that will definitely happen and the reason for delays.
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>>551998484
>walkman
>red
>nero and not REDMAN
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>>551998268
No I want the fakeout or some other weird bullshit exactly because it's weird. Most of the time an ending is going to be a straight down the line, honest pitch. The adventure is over, but the protagonist and heroine accumulated too much trauma so they have to forget everything, but don't worry, they're star crossed lovers and will reconnect even without their memories. I've seen it a dozen times, but it's fine, it isn't terrible. Having it be a con is way more interesting though. Faggots are always whining about how safe writing is now, well here you go, someone potentially doing something different.
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>>551998536
red saber...
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New years servant is sion sorry galachud fags
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The ending follows Marisbury's philosophy of "only the outside matters". Mash and Guda have been stripped of their experiences, bonds, friendships, and growth. They now only resemble the people we've been following for 10 years.
I am 99% sure this is a fake bullshit.
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What is weird to me is that after all that shit Mashu and Guda went through together and know they're going to get memorywiped, they finish it with holding hands?
Not even a hug before?
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Imagine Nasu and Takeuchi on the 28th scrolling through internet and reading all the people that fell for it
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I don't mind the ending too much, but it kinda rubs me the wrong way on some points (No explanation for Mashu's recovery, lost memories after a decade of explaining how important they are, generic cookie cutter "Boy meets girl reunion" instead of something more definitive, no proper goodbye to your Servants, etc. and of course the fact that its a reset ending, which is overused.) I kinda hope that there will at least be some kind of expanded version if nothing else, though I wouldn't mind the "alternate ending" idea either.
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>>551998484
I got Moriarty's Chrome Hearts dupes so I wouldn't have to pay $3000 for the real thing
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>>551998575
lol what do you mean "here you go" followed by a "potentially"? am I being given a wet fart right now?
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>>551998705
Only REAL heroines get the hug
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>>551998705
Nasu hates yuri, so a Gudako hug would not fly. Also, Harem rules. No girl is allowed to get ahead, even if its the main girl.
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>>551998705
Guda's thinking back during the first summer event where he got to third base with Anne and Mary in the showers.
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>>551998790
Shiki needs to stop bitching. She actually married her Norman Normal and had him put a bun in her oven. Probably the most successful MC in TM history in regards to personal life matters.
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>>551998831
>an affectionate farewell isn't allowed because of possible yuri
That's bullshit and you know it, harem rules don't apply with reset endings
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>>551998705
>Not even a hug before?
Kinda funny, since FIrst Order had them hugging within a day of knowing each other. I wonder if Nasu just secretly hates Mashu these days.
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>>551999027
I'm convinced that Nasu does not know or understand what is affection or bonds, he is like Marisbilly in that way
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I also have a question about Sion which I hope I just didn't read properly the first time around. To what extent did Atlas find out about the Lostbelt incident? They knew that earth past 2004 was a lostbelt? Did they know that CHALDEAS was going to be created and shifted with Earth?
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>>551999027
>Send her through the NTR gauntlet in LB6.
>Ignores her in LB7.
>She needs to be bullied to grow up.
You think?
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>>551998705
Holding hands is fourth base.
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C107 TM booth
https://x.com/theurgia_isvara/status/2005919228051001759
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>>551999140
Marisbilly knows about bonds though.
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All the popular threads today are just about the fakeout evidence piling up or the Laplace theory lol
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Is Nasu the Shakespeare of our time?
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Reminder that Guda still has one more Command Spell left
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>>551999140
Nasu being autistic or at least on the spectrum is pretty well known going by his old ass posts on his blog
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>>551998749
I was under the impression Mashu was a homunculus baby which is why she was never slated to live past the year 2016. Just how did she survive in PHH up to 2019/2025?
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>>551999158
It was in 2007. Why don't you fucking read?
>They knew that earth past 2004 was a lostbelt?
It's not.
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>>551999206
Whole world is gonna crash out if there's nothing more on the 31st.
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Mashu should've eaten our face with the sloppiest most amateur kiss before the end
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>>551999159
Clearly he saw the "Normalize bullying again" meme, and went to town.
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>>551999236
>tracked it going down to 1
>forgot to pay attention to see if it ever ran out
Are you absolutely sure on this?
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>>551999315
I'm pretty sure we only used 2 to buff the excalibur shot
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>>551999206
>random site
Lol
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>>551999297
True. Olga's entire character exists to be shit on and tortured after all.
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Reminder that Abigail has been inside of your head spying on you in the new world all this time.
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>>551999206
>l-look! t-the nips!
desperate bandwagon attempt
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>>551999348
We used 1 on summoning holmes didn't we?
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>>551998705
I was expecting either a Persona 2 EP ending OR a Steins;Gate ending. Instead we get neither, like a cliffhanger. I personally would have preferred the former. Anyone else?
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>>551999206
>replies to this
SHUT
IT
DOWN
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The third one was to blow up Maris with Mashu. I'm more convinced people don't read shit.
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>https://hrmos.co/pages/lasengle/jobs/0000302
>Lasengle's website has a bunch of recently posted job listings for FGO

Seems like not only is the game continuing, but a lot of staff has fucked off. Nooticing.
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>>551999394
did we, I might've forgot it then
Also shitposters mad because FGO gets proper discussion is funny
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>>551999394
We used one for Mashu blasting Area 51, one for Holmes. Probably one for the Chaldeas kill with Mashu or the Grands summoning but it wasn't exactly shown.
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>>551999247
She was always a human, but a test tube one with weird cells, that apparently prevented her from growing old, but would decay and kill her around 18. Either that or its some byproduct of the experiments/Galahad. She apparently also couldn't leave Chaldea before the Galahad incident, since she was raised in a sterile environment. Fou revived her at the end of part 1 with a normal lifespan. Now the question of the ending is, how the fuck is she in Tokyo when part 1 and 2 never happened, since she should be a dying autistic robot. Either Fou's bullshittery transcended even that, (but even then, her memories and experiences are still gone, so she should be a robot mentally) or there is some unexplained BS (New world fudged stuff or something else)
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Whatever happens on the 31st, I will be here to shitpost about it. I promise you.
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>>551999483
They've been trying to recruit pretty desperately prior to this so I'm not really sure about the connection
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>>551999265
>2007
Where was this stated?
Maris being in the fuyuki grail war WAS the lostbelt. The fake history Maris constructed using his resources.
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>>551999483
>but a lot of staff has fucked off
Did staff actually fuck off and they want replacements, or are they actually looking to expand for once?
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>>551999562
Why haven't you applied yet, anon?
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i just want a gudaguda anime short on NY eve like the one we got after time temple
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>>551999612
They should just move on to FGO2 already like GFL2. The engine is a bigger spaghetti mess than TF2 at this point. We could be having higu quality shit like what ZZZ or BA has if only they picked a better engine.
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>>551999574
Sorry 2017.
It was in the game. Sion comments the incineration was already resolved when she noticed what happened. She started to invest her savings and go to Wandering sea.
>Maris being in the fuyuki grail war WAS the lostbelt
NO, retard. Marisbilly still goes to fuyuki in PHH. Da Vinci said so.
And Sion said Chaldea staff WERE phh before the bleaching turned them into LB. Maris was literally LYING to you.
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>>551999612
>Lasengle
>expanding
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>>551999612
>>551999483
I think they're just trying to expand. It's all background and VFX hires for FGO specifically which tracks.
We have like one or two background guys
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>>551999612
I think they are trying to hire a company to do all the work for them while Nasu and Takeuchi spend their days running a train on Sakurai
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Didn't the "final" battle start in the dark? We were walking towards Maris when it suddenly just went dark didn't it?
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I hope they pay sprite-kun well
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>>551999741
Yes there's a disconnect between how maris acts prior to that and there too
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>>551999756
Sprite-kun was peak indian in the sense that he sabotaged the process so that only he could manage it while never training a successor
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>>551999656
Mousepad
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>>551992908
>Hey, Dahbinci, it's like an ad for a weight loss center : before... and way before!
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>>551997754
While most things in the universe tend toward entropy this is the impulse of Static Oblivion. It is the state of a "Final Result" that was reached without a "Process." It represents a state where information is not lost through heat, but rather "archived into silence."
Amagus with this Origin is naturally unmarked by the world.
Life Signature: They lack a "human" presence. In a crowded room people will naturally look past them They don't just go unnoticed; the brain of the observer actively fails to record their existence.
This Origin acts as the "key" to the Fourth Magic's specific mechanics:
The "Gravity" of Information
In magecraft, information is energy. Null-Entropy treats energy as a burden. When this mage applies their Origin to the world, they create a "Singularity of Information."
This is why it manifests as Gravity and Black Holes.
It isn't pulling on matter; it is pulling on the data that makes up matter. It sucks the "attributes" out of an object until the object has no choice but to collapse into a void.
Removal of Concepts
Because their Origin is the "Ultimate End" they can touch a concept like the "Heat" of a flame and force it to reach its absolute endstate instantly In the logic of Null-Entropy, if something has reached its final state of zero, it no longer needs to occupy space or time. Zthus it is Concealed
"Origin Awakening"
If this magus were to have their Origin fully "awakened," their stats would look like this
Elemental Affinity:Void(Hollow)
Magical Circuit Quality: EX (The circuits do not "generate" manathey "absorb" the ambient mana of the world).
Conceptual Alignment:Oblivion The user becomes a living "Event Horizon." To touch them is to risk having your history—your very name erased from the root.
VisualNote: When the magus uses their powertheir eyes don't glow. they appear to become "depthless holes" a total absence of light that makes the viewer feel like they are falling
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The New Years servant 100% being Sion makes me sick, literally who gives a fuck about her? She did nothing in FGO and isn't even the real Sion that has a fanbase. Her gacha would be the final flop.
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>>551989704
The real reason for this being a fake out has already been told by Nasu. Type-moon will just keep going with it because it shits out infinite money even after he takes a backseat to writing. He also said he would deliver the ending he originally planned. So, the Reset ending is where Nasu "would" have ended FGO, but then it exploded and make all the money in the world, so now that ending gets relegated to a fake out that gets walked back.
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Shiroubrowns are scared, you can feel it
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>>551997363
>Arknights
Does Arknights have any good music?
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I am kinda curious about the final shot. Mashu has lost Black Barrel functions right? The gun fixes Singularities now. Even if it has Black Barrel functions I dunno how effective it'd be on Chaldeas. Do we get the usual CS animation? Or does it just say "By this CS etc etc" without it?
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>>551999961
>>551993048
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>>551999992
If loli Sion is one of the ascensions then I will roll for her and grail her.
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>>551999992
u still gonna roll if she is castoria/oberon tier
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>>551998535
Didn’t Sion literally delete herself from PHH to put herself into Lostbelt 0? Why would she be in the Tsukihime remake?
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>>551999705
Here.
They really should have just retconned Part 2, but Nasu needed to add the plot hole idiocy in Fuyuki which made no sense and never explained the fuck Moneybills did or why. Just for clap slideshow.
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>>551999992
Let's not kid ourselves, it's going to be Galahad, even though I would like Sion more.
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>>552000142
Sion or Solomon mentioned that to destroy CHALDEAS we'd need power equal to one able to destroy the planet.
Mashu doesn't have that. So Malice being defeated makes no sense.
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>>551999705
>2017
Oh
>Sion comments the incineration was already resolved when she noticed what happened
That I understand, she found out about thr incineration event after it was resolved..No problem there. My issue is how did she/Atlas find out about the bleaching? And to what extent? Did she know Earth was in a Lostbelt state by then? And btw, Moneybills being in Fuyuki was 100% something he manufactured in his workshop. That's why it is EXPLICITLY stated when PHH returns to 2004, Moneybills will have either died shortly BEFORE Fuyuki or during it, preventing a repeat. Guda pops back in PHH during 2025 because that's the time they belong to, but the lostbelt timeline was reverted to pre-2004 conditions.

If the lostbelt didnt start in 2004 then when did it start? They admit Chaldea wouldnt have existed if Moneybills didnt participate in Fuyuki. Moneybills normally did NOTHING in that GW. It is heavily implied that GW is the same as in FSN meaning he never had a servant to begin with.
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I'm surprised nobody pointed this out yet but
Malice Chaldeas has Threat to Humanity as a trait. No other manifested Beast has it. Infact, I'd go so far to say it's the one trait no Beast would ever have.
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>>552000236
Melty connection and I want to see her naked in official material. Simple as.
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>>552000369
>2025
Is this confirmed?
I'm aware they said it at least twice on the final chapter that the period they will return to likely won't be 2019, so I kind of assumed they meant 2025, so that the game would match real world time again
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>>552000369
I thought that Sion is from PHH; doesn’t matter if it’s “pre” or “post” FGO because Lostbelt 0 being resolved means that doesn’t matter, but she was able to find out that the Lostbelt existed via Atlas tech and essentially deleted herself from reality to “self-insert” in the “fanfic” that was FGO’s timeline/lostbelt?
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>>552000438
Gorgon having it is funny
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We're going to be in a dream and wake up when we're randomly back inside the storm boarder sleeping in the command room aren't we? Cause that made no sense in the first place
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>>552000438
Okay this is starting to feel intentional, giving her a trait she's not supposed to have as a real Beast is too direct
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What if..? Unless?
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>>552000438
That's a good point I wondered why enkidu felt like he wasn't hitting as hard as he should have on her.
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>>552000641
I think that's Gorgon back when she was larping as Tiamat, not sure if that makes any difference
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>>552000369
>Did she know Earth was in a Lostbelt state by then
It wasn't. That's the issue. See >>552000239
She was from that timeline and was PHH, but she had to TURN HERSELF into LB to interfere. See how Nasu's fucking stupid Fuyuki addition which added ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to the plot because Marisbilly STILL would join HGW in PHH overcomplicated things only to have some Saber Alter wanking and nostalgia clappery?
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>>552000725
Sorry opposite brain is fried
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>>551999705
>Da Vinci said so
No she said he will attempt to join the fuyuki war and lose his life in the process due to fate, doesn't say he makes it to fuyuki
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>>552000616
>that was FGO’s timeline/lostbelt?
she was literally in that timeline from the beginning bro, she DETECTED holmes fucking with atlas in Camelot singularity did you forget?
Ther was never a "LB FGO" until 2017. The whole mini lostbelt shit of Marisbilly only exists to overcomplicate the origin of Fuyuki Singularity which was actually originally resolved until Nasu retconned it.
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>>552000710
We still didn't see Sherlock's alter after all
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>>552000280
Wrong, they mentioned we would need the power to destroy an entire universe to destroy CHALDEAS, which, to be fair, we kind of had. We had all the Lostbelts and Solomon used his last ring to reverse those supernovas against itself. Mashu's last shot clearly didnt kill Maris, but it came close.

>>552000604
Almost certainly. Time was supposed to end in 2023 but we got two extra years of spare time thanks to Ordeal Stall/Olga throwing a wrench in the works, and AFAIK we cant go back in time, which means we would pop out of the Lostbelt at 2025.

>>552000616
Sion is from PHH, correct, but she infused herself with Lostbelt particles for some contrived reason to make her able to pop herself in to that timeline and help (You) out.
If Atlas tech was able to find out what happened, why didnt they all mobilise against Marisbilly, is my question. That seems like a major fuckup.
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>>552000641
>Gorgon having it is funny
I think there's a nuance that the Beasts underlings have it since more often than not they don't share the Beast philosophy on how they love humans.
Right now I'm seeing Malice as the equivalent of the Lahmus or Bestia Coccinea to Tiamat or Draco.
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>>552000818
>doesn't say he makes it to fuyuki
She implies she does, because she said he wouldn't make the wish for the grail. And this is ONLY because the world is trying to avoid the events of Maris Chaldea stuff, not because of anything Moneybill tries to do. Maris Chaldeas doesn't even exist at this point. Stop excusing shitty writing.
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>>552000859
What are you talking about? The story literally says that the Lostbelt began in 2004 when Marisbury created it to force a HGW where he participated and won
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>>552000438
>No other manifested Beast has it
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>>552000438
I just brushed it off thinking that it was her gimmick, with the trees having it too.
Actually, in the heat of the ending I noticed a lot of small, wrong details that I brushed off with "they'll make sense later"
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>>552000947
>the power to destroy an entire universe
>which, to be fair, we kind of had
Where? The only universe destroying attack I can think of is full powered ORT and Kukulkan was a servant
>Mashu's last shot clearly didnt kill Maris, but it came close.
Okay but that's all she was attacked with.
The Lostbelts attacked the trees which aren't her.
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>>552000972
No, she doesn't. Read the actual text instead of a summary next time.
>彼は聖杯戦争に参加しようとして、命を落とす。
>しようとして
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>>552000990
Are you stupid and ignore Sion is from the same timeline?
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>>552000947
>If Atlas tech was able to find out what happened, why didnt they all mobilise against Marisbilly, is my question. That seems like a major fuckup.
Sion already knew that Chaldea would win, which also means that Lostbelt 0 is pruned, and she’s in PHH so PHH obviously still exists and wasn’t incinerated/bleached, so obviously there’s no need for anyone in PHH to do anything about it since Chaldea would win and the Lostbelt would be undone without their interference anyway; Sion only decides to enter the LB to make Chaldea’s journey easier
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>>551999837
That was fishy as fuck.
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if you people want to write a fanfic then go write a fanfic but stop pretending it's canon lmao
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>>552001098
That literally doesn't say he won't join the war. Are you incapable of reading comprehension? And that's just a guess. This is what matters:
>Marisbury won't get his hands on the Holy Grail, CHALDEAS never gets forged,
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>>552001001
That's not a manifested Beast.
Manifested Beasts have horns, advent beast and a profile to match. Bestia Coccinea lacks all 3.
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>>552001095
They had all the Greek robo gods AND Full powered servant-verse Ciel AND Full powered TYPE Arcueid AND all the other Servantverse characters who were always extremely OP, like the shit they say Servantverse Eresh is capable of.
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Did everyone get that prompt to download data at one of the nodes too? I thought that was strange but dismissed it as protecting against datamining but now I'm not sure
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>>551994286
>(Maris)bury:
>And so, after endless procedures and torture, in the end only a single nerve fragment remained.
>That’s what was left on the operating table. Did it look like a tree branch to you?

It was literally there in plain sight, the origin and final fantasy tree and none of the characters realized because how could they imagine that a fantasy tree can be so tiny and ordinary?
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>>552001098
>The one exception is Marisbury. As the cause of this, he has no place in Pan-Human History.
Also the only reason that happens is due to Maris Chaldeas existence which wasn't a factor. In fact, he didn't know Maris Chaldeas was even going to exist as it popped up on its own. Why would he even NEED to make a lostbelt in the first place?
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>>552001152
I guess that makes sense, though I should correct you in saying that everyone in the Chaldea staff was PHH, even Guda and Mash, since they were born before the Lostbelt began, but only Sion died because she infused herself with Lostbelt stuff.
It seems contrived that Atlas would 'know' PHH would beat Maris and Marisbilly somehow doesn't find this out for himself, being a lord of the Clocktower, but whatever.
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>>552001243
Yes, he died before he joined the grail war. She does not say he made it to Fuyuki like you claim.
>And that's just a guess
Peak projection and also if you're throwing in-game quotes out as "they're just guessing" then your points literally have no value either
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Has any gacha ended because it finished the story and not because it didn't milk players enough for shareholders
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>>552001332
Yes. Now that you mentioned it, it was strange. I think it was mainly for the movie.
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>>552001454
Read nigga >>552001414
>She does not say he made it to Fuyuki like you claim.

She doesn't say he doesn't make it either. Are you retarded?
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>Play Fgo
>Sakamoto ruins it with her shit voice

>Try to take a break and go play tekken
>Sakamoto ruins if with her shit voice

When will I be free
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>>552001269
>They had all the Greek robo gods
Morgan says they're summoned as shadows from the trees, they're not in their living state.
Zeus even says the only one who got summoned in her Alateia form was Artemis while all of them got summoned in human form.
No universe level attack present here
>Full powered servant-verse Ciel AND Full powered TYPE Arcueid
Both in Chaldean servant container, so not full powered
>all the other Servantverse characters who were always extremely OP, like the shit they say Servantverse Eresh is capable of
Space Eresh wasn't present actually.
As for Space Ishtar she has anti-star, not anti-universe. Not to add both her and Ashtart are still on a servant container. The real one was the enemy in Saber Wars II who could unleash the full power of the NP which is in the Servant Universe so it can't even affect Malice from there.

We genuinely had no anti universe level attack
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>>552001486
GFL
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>>552001424
Flopgotten...
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>>552001620
Neural Cloud too
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>>552001414
Maris Chaldeas was in charge of managing the lostbelt and rewriting the universe. Model chaldeas and the fantasy tree collision was marisbilly's plan and execution in PHH that lead to lostbelt0.
Marisbilly's plan would have actually worked if Maris didn't gain a personality.
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>Specifically, to the circumstances of 2004, the year the Holy Grail War in Fuyuki took place,
which became the cause of CHALDEAS' creation.
The only reason is up to 2004 is because that's the cause of Chaldeas' creation. Nothing related to Marisbilly's mini lostbelt by the way. It's all about destroying Chaldeas.
But hold up Olga is a component of Chaldeas, wouldn't it mean she's not suppose to exist in the future either?
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>>552001712
You mean Chaldea, chaldeas was designed in the 90's. Maris (root clone) I don't know when maybe inside LB0 since Marisbilly got funding to start his plan.
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>>552001486
nier reincarnation
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>>552001831
Eh squeenix mobage never live long and that one wasn't exactly making a lot of money
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>>552001676
Maris Chaldeas literally came into existence by itself later on. It doesn't exist in 2004. Neither does the Root thing.
>Specifically, to the circumstances of 2004,
the year the Holy Grail War in Fuyuki took place, which became the cause of CHALDEAS' creation.
Do you see Marisbilly's mini lostbelt mentioned as a problem here? Specificially is simply because it's a cause for Chaldeas (Maris Chaldeas) to exist.
>The Chaldea staff have already shifted from
Pan-Human History to Lostbelts before the bleaching.
>Meaning, they should be able to return to the original Earth with CHALDEAS offline.
Sion was literally in the same timeline. She had detected the incineration happened, that Holmes fudged with Tri-Hermes in Fuyuki which had the version of Moneybill's victory in its records, by the way. All this was still PHH. The Shadow Border can function because it's not really from a 100% LB unlike the Storm Border which was falling apart.
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>>552001508
It should be for the movie. You get it again if you switch genders.
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>>552001917
>in Fuyuki
*Camelot
Sorry.
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>>551999483
>>551999729
Can we get more sprite guys so we actually get some new servants?
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>>552001917
Maris wasn't born by itself. It literally can't come into existence on it's own. Marisbilly used the same methodology as model chaldeas to create a clone of the root to gain the function of rewriting the universe
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>It's quickly estabilished that Malice Chaldeas could copy Nega Summon, but never how and why
>Malice Chaldeas is a copy of xxxx
>Beasts passives can be copied, to a more incomplete and lower version
Does this logic feel intentional to someone else?
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There are two types of Lostbelts. One is a pruned event phenomenon denied world because fuckery will happen. Musashi is from this. They are real people who made wrong choices and ate shit. The seven lostbelts, on the other hand, are dreams Chaldeas created using prompts to enforce a bad end, but are fictional since their origin.
Lostbelt Chaldeas is the first one, and the 'mistake' source is Marisbilly winning the Holy Grail and making his wish in 2004 which results in Maris Chaldeas incidentally, so the people aren't really fictional. If you amend that, then the world history will continue ignoring the events that were consequence of the Lostbelt history, but the people involved are still PHH.
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>>552000897
From Beryl to a Persona NPC
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>>552001831
No, that one was terminated early. They released a book a year after EoS that contained all the content they had to cut.
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>>552002224
Yes? Marisbilly could have made that "mini lostbelt" and wish for a gay porn subscription for life and nothing would happen and CF will look to the side because nobody cares. The specific issue with his win is Maris Chaldeas which proved the actual Chaldeas lostbelt years later. Do you understand?
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I feel like FGO just got too complicated with all that Lostbelt, CHALDEAs, Moneybills shit and Nasu simply got lost in the sauce.
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>>552002239
Goetia wasn't a 4 characters word though
Maybe his original purpose as the human order protecting device is?
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>>552002560
I'm not saying it's Goetia, but maybe she's a copy of the actual Beast VII
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>>552002449
Yeah? That's not the point we're contesting though.
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>>552002581
NegaMethAbuser
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>>552002345
Marisbilly wasnt IN the Fuyuki GW to begin with. Fuyuki was FSN, 100% without any doubt in my mind. Which means he was not at all a part of it.
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>>552001248
Beast VIs horns are the crowns/heads
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>>552002665
Fuyuki was not FSN because FSN was the fifth grail war and there was only a single grail war in FGO, you numpty.
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>>552002224
Read this anonbro >>552002345
Chaldeas was creating fictional Lostbelts and by itself was a (real) Lostbelt.
There was no fanfic there. The timeline FGO takes place even in 2004 co-existed with PHH. Sion stated so. That's why the Chaldea staff can return to PHH because they were never fantasy. And why the Shadow Border can still truck while Nemo's ship which is exclusively made of LB5 stuff broke down.
Lostbelts aren't 'fanfic.' They are indeed a phenomenon that happens. Chaldeas was engineering imaginary ones for her amusement and that's why the LB Kings got livid.
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>>552002752
Because Marisbilly only simulated 1 grail war inside his proto-fantasy tree and collided it with PHH which was doing its 5th
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>>552002665
>Fuyuki was FSN,
This isn't FSN Fuyuki. This is FGO Fuyuki. There was indeed only one Grail War. This doesn't change at all. Marisbilly decides to join in because he can use the Grail, capiche? He gives up in the 90s in FSN. Read fucking Case Files.
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Have we even seen Lostbelt 0's tree?
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Why did you niggers not read the story?
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>>552002853
There's no fantasy tree at all. What are you on?
> with PHH which was doing its 5th
Not what happened. Or the change would have happened centuries ago and not in 2004...
Marisbilly never created fantasy.
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>>552002907
Lostbelts dont require a tree. The tree is just for installing a texture on to a plane IIRC. Remember that Musashi "singularity" in EoR was a Lostbelt but didnt have a tree.
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>>552002853
No, you fucking idiot. The Zero collab further states that only a single Grail War happened because it's contrasted to Waver's own HGW experience.

FSN straight up does not work the same if there's only been a single Grail War.
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>Tsukihime is a parallel world until it isn't
>FSN is a parallel world until it isn't
>Case Files and Adventures are a parallel world until they aren't
>KnK is a parallel world until it isn't
>that random shitty spin-off no one remembers? Also is a parallel world until it isn't
FUCKING MAKE IT STOP FUCKING NIGGERS
IF YOU WANT TO CONNECT SHIT TOGETHER THEN WRITE IT SO AND STOP FUCKING PICKING UP BITS AND PIECES THAT YOU THINK FIT
FUCKING FGO IS CONFUSING ENOUGH ON ITS OWN
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>>552002758
>by itself was a (real) Lostbelt.
What's your rationale of this
And yeah of course the original (Sion perspective) timeline is a valid brance of PHH, we're not contesting that.
And yeah the lostbelt phenomenon exists, Goetia backs it up, it's the fantasy trees that are manufactured and it's a fantasy tree that marisbilly used to cause the 2004 collision.
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>>552003032
>>552002907
Lostbelts aren't fantasy. The ONES Chaldeas generated to power up are 'what if' because she 'dreams' about it.
The lostbelts are mentioned as a thing and a phenomenon by Levtia and were teased earlier in the Waver-Roman talk, and Last encore. Last Encore was a semi lostbelt situation that got averted too.
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>>552003051
Though I agree that Notes will get established as a sequel to FGO after 31st.
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>Full-time employee
Okay so that confirms FGO will continue for at least a full year.
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>Yes i'm the best crypter, how did you know?
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Truly the Grand Order was to figure out what Nasu was thinking while writing it after all.
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>>552003180
They've already said they have "plans" up to the 11th anni
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>>551999483
You know that hiring always ticks up in january and feb right?
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>>552002758
『マリスビリー・アニムスフィアが参加できる聖杯戦争』の舞台を構築して、本来の歴史に上書きした。

>舞台を構築して、本来の歴史に上書きした。
>構築
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yes maris copied Holmes' Beast skill: Nega Thinking
everything shall be elementary, my dear
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>>551991360
Yeah the whole finale is pure ludo
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>>552003130
>And yeah of course the original (Sion perspective) timeline is a valid brance of PHH,
Sion is from FGO. She detected the incineration, she also knew Holmes had intruded on their computer during it.
She mentions that the Storm Border is falling apart because is from a LB. But as you can see the Shadow Border functions, why do you think it does anon? Because it's not merely from Chaldeas' fanfic.
>, it's the fantasy trees that are manufactured and it's a fantasy tree that marisbilly used to cause the 2004 collision.
Where's the fantasy tree in Fuyuki? Marisbilly mini lostbelt is a vague intervention, and not the actual problem in itself. It's stated clearly the problem and why the events of Chaldea are from a Lostbelt is due to the bleaching and Maris Chaldea. Which events are unaddmissible in PHH (they get pruned). Those aren't generated by tree prompts or we'll have those clearly stated which happened with the 7 LB.
None of the other LB inhabitants can truly cross in PHH because are fiction. It doesn't matter if LB2 Surtr was older than his lostbelt, because he's just a fantasy made by Chaldeas. Ophelia met him while she was in the coffin before all the lostbelt nonsense began. On the other hand, Loli Vinci can cross to PHH despite being a homo Made in Chaldea because that wasn't a fiction, it was just a timeline that was going to get the SNIP. Remove the source of the Snip, the timeline is back on clear.
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>>552003570
None of that says it's fiction. Event manipulation isn't fiction.
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>>551998268
>Regardless of what happens tomorrow it will be hated to the death by people who would have hated it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters....
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We met Sion in Adventures and she's different, and her relationship with Zepia isn't as good. FGO Sion is not FSN Sion.
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>>552003585
Hold on, I think I see why we're talking in parallels. Are you saying that FGO is a PHH branch that is radically different from FSN/CF that 2004 war is literally the first grail war in the FGO (not LB0) timeline?
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I feel bad for Habetrot. She was Mashu's wingman, and we didn't even get a goodbye scene. LB6 doesn't count, since it was a different Habetrot to begin with.
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>>552003263
>They've already said they have "plans" up to the 11th anni
sauce?
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https://x.com/i/status/2005645682083045835
For fuck's sake
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>>552000947
>Wrong, they mentioned we would need the power to destroy an entire universe to destroy CHALDEAS, which, to be fair, we kind of had
We needed universe-level of power when she was a root, as we needed to destroy the universe, after destroying the trees she wasn't a root anymore and was defeatable.
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>>552004072
Yes. Marisbilly gives up going to war in the 90s in FSN. Heartless buys those eyes instead of him in the Train auction (Marisbilly has the murder eyes in FGO...weirdly nobody brought that up). Olga isn't raised by him, but abandoned to her nanny, Lev is still in Acheology, while he joins Chaldea in 1999 in FGO. Sion has a bad relationship with Zepia (Adventures).
It's a completely different timeline from the early 90s. Not just the war.
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Why isn't Ahriman a beast? Does he not deserve the title?
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>>552002907
>>551994286
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>>552004174
Cut it down.
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Yeah I don't think whatever comes next is going to be quite as well received by some people
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>>552004174
We truly were lost in the cosmos...
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>>551994286
But how would Brolga be the LB tree if the start was in 2004 and should have been made from Moneybills ressources, while Brolga fell in, in 2015/16?
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>>552004236
You know for that to happen something radical has to be different with the three families that will stall their first war until 2004 which will affect their descendants and Kirei. LB0 would have to be pulling heroic spirits from a completely unrelated timeline which makes less and less sense.
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>>552004156
Mashu just throw her shield with her as a fuel lol.
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>>552004290
You either give me a REAL good ending where love trumps any and all plotholes that may exists,
or you give me the truth regardless of how bleak things can get. No in between.
Right now we seemingly don't have the truth, we have all the plotholes and love didn't win hard enough.
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>>552004542
Probably just an oversight, but also kinda feels like it adds to the "Fake ending" theory, by them completely ignoring Habetrot. Keep in mind, she was around during the Excalibur scene, so its not like they forgot her completely either.
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>>552004604
The ending literally gave you this your just being a schizo.
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>>552004449
The Lostbelt always starts when the divergence happens, if Moneybills rewrote 300 years of history or whatever, it wouldn't begin in 2004.
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>>552004290
At this point the pandora box is open and theories spread. Regardless of that happens some people will be left unsatisfied. It's glorious.
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>>552004072
NTA:
The divergence happens earlier: In FSN, Moneybags found out the Grail is tainted and gives up, disownes Olga and becomes a NEET. This happens in 1996? In FGO, there was always only one war. It's not really FSN.
We just don't know why they needed to add that Marisbilly's intervention created a stage for a mini lostbelt that allow him to participate in a war when the real reason CF will aim for his ass is Maris Chaldeas after this shit, and b) people in the same timeline like Sion and others were still PHH. It was never a LB from then onwards, but became one with CHALDEAS creation.
It felt tack on and just existing to wank Saber Alter super defender of justice. You can remove that and Fuyuki it doesn't change anything at all. It almost feels like Nasu wanted to add that to falseflag Marisbilly as the villain only to just switch that to Maris Chaldeas as a twist. It's just a waste of time.
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>>552004760
So now you're saying FGO(original) has SN/CF relative timeline and only FGO(LB0) is the one with super divergence?
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>>552004849
>falseflag Marisbilly as the villain only to just switch that to Maris Chaldeas
I mean that's not even a fucking falseflag at this point. This doesn't erase any of the fucked up shit he did, it just downgrades him from the big bad.
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>>552004807
That's true I guess I'll be happy regardless of what occurs
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>>552004760
>>552004449
To add an example, look when the LBs we cut 'started'. Technically, Chaldeas implamented them all in 2017, but their date start is earlier.
If Moneybill's mini lostbelt changed centuries of history, it's not a " 2004" LB. Get it?
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>>552004807
Hey, trying to please everyone is the secret to pleasing no one, that's just how it is. Some people will be unhappy no matter the outcome.
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>>552004979
>Get it
NTA, but no. Not at all. This stuff is retarded as fuck and makes me glad I never thought hard about it before.
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>>552004994
It's sort of funny to see people still go for the "let's please everyone" route when there are so many disaster stories about that. But I guess people just think that THEY will do it better because they know better than everyone else who had the same thought and tried.
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>>552004928
Requiem and Apocrypha also don't have the same wars. Apocrypha diverges as you know, but Requiem does too.
Extra has a fucking mooncell while other timelines don't. Which is a greater divergence.
Why would you think the three families getting lazier is a huge issue? Fuyuki isn't a historical foundation event. CF doesn't give a single shit if Moneybills fucked with it. It gives a shit his fuckery created Chaldeas, and Chaldeas almost destroyed the Universe. That's why they are after his butt now. I repeat. Sion was sitting in early 2017 and noticed the incineration had happened and wanted to help Chaldea. Chaldea is in her timeline. SHE got Marisbilly his computer in the 2000s, nigga. After he won the war. Also the Paper Moon. Check the timeline.
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>>552005089
>makes me glad I never thought hard about it before.
Anon, you are making Maris win!!!
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>>552004979
Can you answer if you think the original FGO timeline pre-collision is SN/CF adjacent?
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>>552004965
Yeah but like it seemed he was the direct cause instead of an unwitting instigator of doom. Only to reveal Maris Chaldeas which is the worst boss ever. At least Marisbilly had certain charisma.
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>>552005160
That's why no matter what some people will be left pissed
>Keep the ending as is? People who hated it hate it even more
>Do the rugpull? People who liked the ending get pissed
>Do nothing and keep some kind of unrelated part 3? Piss off everyone who wants to stick with Guda and Mashu
>EoS? Piss of everyone who pumped money into the game
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Keep repeating it. The true surprise would be if there isn't another ending to keep this shit going.
Gotta squeeze even more money out of it as possible and stall even more.
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How many hours till stream?
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>>552005216
At this point I don't even care. Just make it make sense. Erase this convoluted mess of a story.
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>>552005381
~25 something like that.
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>>552005280
Not at all, it was very different from the 90s. Lev himself is "Lev Lainur Flauros" since the 90s while, as far as we know, he's known as Lev Uvall and Gusion Lainur with Mr. Flauros as secret personality everywhere else (perceived as two different people). That was completely different from the beginning.
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>>552005381
25 hours 23 minutes.
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>>552005280
FGO is called a parallel world in Case Files timeline if it helps.
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>>552005194
>>552005428
Then FGO Kirei should be like Apo Kirei shouldn't he?
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tbdesu I've mentally checked out at the end of part 1 and I have no idea what's going on.
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>>552005408
>>552005458
Thank you.
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>>552005531
>parallel world
FUCK OFF
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>yfw it's just the same ending with different approaches
Please nasu ,please do it I begging yall
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>>552005559
part 2's ending has too many inconsistencies, people are coping that it's actually a fake out and the real ending will happen on the 31st.
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>>552005559
Me too. I just follow individual stories in LB/events/OC but I lost main story long ago. I can't follow this discussion of that world is connected to the other and in that way.
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>>552005791
Oh that's the part I get. I don't get anything that happened before that.
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>>552005791
>inconsistencies
More like patternfag headcanon
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>>552005280
It isn't since because there's only one war. And they don't have the strong connection in the tree of Case Files, right?
To add on what the anon said. Marisbilly invokes his pact with Atlas and trades secrets with Sion (she gets some of the rayshifting stuff), and eventually she ships them "TRISMEGISTUS" in 2015. Also Paper Moon. So yes, she's from the same timeline. It's not a fictional lostbelt.
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>>552004184
GUYS
Maris Chaldea is a mirror of the root, right? What if the 7 fantasy trees are mirrored off of something as well? Since they are a part of the Maris root after all. What would they correspond with?
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New ending goes into part 3.
You are now on your way to kill god.
1 Story part every 2,5 years.
Part 3 ends in 2040.
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>>552005548
It's a Kirei who died in Fuyuki. He never faced Shirou because he didn't recognize him.
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>>552006062
Good enough.
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>Nasu has apparently played Undertale.and liked it.
Oh no...It suddenly makes sense.
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>>552005914
I mean adjacent as in the timing of the wars, of course a lot of micro differences are what makes them diverge. You're just like the only dude with the radical idea that the original timeline is ridiculously divergent that it creates more inconsistencies than it makes sense compared to Marisbilly just making a convenient LB0 and colliding it to a 5th war which makes the servants that show up (fuyuki 5th war servant alters) more sense
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>He didn't wait until December 31st before completing the game and locked himself out of the true ending

I shiggy diggy....
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>>552006048
Pilars like Rhongobongo, Sun Wukong staff etc.?
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>>552006048
>U-Olga
>E-Olgas
>Olga
Fvaaaark
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>>552006130
But then it's also a Kirei that never met Gil since no 4th war. Also Kirei is fated to die in Fuyuki 2004.
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>>552006208
To be fair they always change up the FGO Fuyuki roster
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I still find it weird that there weren't any reaction from the rest when Vinky told everyone what's going on with Sion
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The only way this stays interesting is with a 1000 year time skip, new player characters and a new cast featuring Daybit. Otherwise fuck off
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>>552005428
>he's known as Lev Uvall and Gusion Lainur with Mr. Flauros as secret personality
That's because Flauros (human) was the first to kill himself by committing ego death. That's why he's absent. And the melty blood manga shows that the reason why he is able to kill himself is because Rani sets up the TP coordinates back to Lev's office and the human version of him had a falling out with the demon version and it was setup so that he could kill himself by being bisected and bleeding out.
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>>552005089
Take for example, Russian LB. The date of the divergence is 1570, not 2017 (when it was installed). Marisbilly's minilostbelt is 2004, not 1800 when the first war was supposed to take place. If he had modified the past to avoid the other 4 wars, the date would be somewhere in the 1800s.
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>>552006167
Did you somehow miss the entire fight being a giant fucking undertale reference?
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>>552005864
Your former boss was a massive autist, created an even more autistic robot that he merged with his womanchild daughter, who was tortured for a century to merge properly. He fucked with spacetime to get the money needed for the robot, then killed himself when one of his illegal alien workers demanded better payment conditions. The robot then cloned the universe and wanted to make all people dumb sheep that it could rule over. Because of the bosses spacetime fuckery (You) and your friends are now considered "wrong" history and will get erased if you kill the robot. You do so anyway, but get reincarnated in the correct timeline and meet your eggplant again.
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>>552006378
>and a new cast featuring Daybit
Kys
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>>552006238
Where is Sun Wukong's staff specified to be a pillar of the world? Also, is a pillar of the 'world' countable as a pillar of the 'universe'? Or are we using an archaic meaning of the word where world once meant the same as universe?
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>>552006383
Flauros kills himself in 2015 and nobody knows him in CT. Lev in FGO goes by Lev Lainur, and Lev Laiur Flauros, and not two people, Lev Uvall and Gusion Lainur (outside a specific alter ego based on him). Professor Lev Lainur was invited to Chaldea in the 90s.
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>>552005342
I'd expect another year before any EoS announcement at the earliest even if the ending is completely straight. Not everyone will be up to date with the story yet and they're going to want people to still spend on the new years servant and presumably the 11th anni servant as well.
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It's remarkable that the minute you don't like the ending, the usual incompetence and rushedness of FGO climaxes suddenly turn into hints of something more.
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>>552006331
All Kireis are fated to die in 2004.
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>>552006431
That would be my response if I actually liked any of this shit.
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>>552006372
They in general seemed oddly nonchalant about most things after the battle.
>Olga died? Well, that's not the ending we hoped for, but oh well...
>Sion sacrificed herself to make things easier for us? Thanks.
>We have to smash the shield for fuel? Habe-who?
Maybe they were just so done with it all, they figured that if theyose all their memories anyway, there is no real point in caring.
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>>551994286
didnt the tree dissolve when guda tried to take it with them
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>Jan 1 you will get a update
A short video of Nasu and all of the other writers saying "Omedetou" to the fgo player.
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>>552006431
>but get reincarnated in the correct timeline
Is that even reincarnation so much as its showing the PHH version?

Like I assumed the PHH Guda still existed. Its not like the lostbelt one bodyjacked him or anything.
Its just showing PHH
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>>552006426
Maybe Maris should have started as Olga and then introduced herself as the "Absolute President of the Hyper Universe"
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>>552006708
Then it ends with a big THREE

The first chapter of it comes out 2027
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>>552006426
Nasu should have had ritsuka tank a supernova with willpower alone tho
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>>552006208
> You're just like the only dude with the radical idea
It's not radical. Marisbilly straightout gives up if the Fuyuki War Holy Grail is tainted.
> 5th war which makes the servants that show up (fuyuki 5th war servant alters) more sense
Only 3 Fuyuki Servants show up consistently: Cu, Emiya, and Saber. The rest have a different roster depending on the adaptation.
I'm not sure why do you think this is the Fuyuki 5th war at all. This is NEVER mentioned in the actual story. If it was, Olga or Cu would have said so since it's a big change.
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>>552006726
Ok, but why is Mashu in Tokyo in 2019 as a normal girl in PHH?
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>>552006853
Wait for a blog post in 2027 that mentions in a few lines that Fou pulled a few strings to just do that as a reward before fucking off.
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>>552006853
Because Nasus a fucking hack and watched Eva which had the same goddamn issue that Maris like 80 years older than Shinji but dont think too hard about it.

Mashu should either not exist or be about to fucking die yet again unless Fous gonna asspull this timelines Mashu a lifespan too
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PART 3 PLOT
>we reset back to Part 1 but Guda takes Olga's place and we play as MaSHIT
>also she's mandatory for every stage
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>>552006208
FGO Saber Alter: has Avalon, and is explicitely not FSN Saber.
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Another big hole is all the foreigner stuff and abby being told she would need to open a door at the end but never doing anything of the sort.
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>>552006834
And why would Emiya even be summonable if the 4th war does not happen?
Anon, please.
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>>552007041
Shes almost good now so thats not even that big a deal anymore unless they steal her black barrel back
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>>552006431
You boss is a good guy because he built the robot to kill all lifeforms in the observable universe and helped humanity be free from threats to focus on their goals. The robot said he is evil because it couldn't understand his genius.

Sources: Our trustworthy good detective Sherlock Holmes.
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>>552007041
part 1 mash is quite good of a unit, so thats fine.
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>>552007065
Last christmas too for all the foreigner nonsense.
Since Nasus an asshole
>Foreigner OC is an epilogue of just Abby having a meltdown that Guda is gone
>Ends with her accepting LOSS
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>>552007063
I'm not saying it's the exact same timeline, please read the first sentence.



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