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Leliana Edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Thread Question
Are bards lame or cool?
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A toast, a toast to CRPGs!
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I wanna smooch her.
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Kroot sex
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The recommendation chart is garbage. RTWP slop should not be scoring this high on combat.
>Icewind Dale. Combat 10/10
LOL
LMAO even
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Try to be less boring this thread.
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>>552085886
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>>552085706
>Kroot reproduce by the male placing his hands upon a female's back and secreting an oily sweat containing his genetic structure. The DNA of the male is merged with that of the female and the resultant infants grow within one of the female's nymune organs until they are ready to be born. In much the same way as indigestible food is disposed of, the females regurgitate the Kroot infants. A Kroot female can gave birth to seven or eight infants each year. though only around a quarter of those will survive to adulthood. Once born, the energy tored within the mother's nymunes serves to provide the stimulus required for the Kroot young to begin their accelerated growth. The young Kroot mature at an astonishing rate. with most new-borns able to take their place within the kindred before their tenth year. Kroot family groupings care for and protect their young for several years, until they are strong enough to fend for themselves and begin establishing their own family.
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>>552085202
See? Anyone can make it
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>>552086032
pretty sure the krootposting is ironic, no one actually wants to fuck it
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Girls just wanna have fun.
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Let's make this thread the worst one yet!
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Is it neccesary to let the kroot eat the Ogryn in order to fully solve the mystery of what the hell is going on down there in the swamp? The War Shaper isn't being very helpful and he says he wants an Ogryn to eat.
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What's the wordcloud site, I haven't found on quite like that
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>>552085250
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>>552086259
You people are weak
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>>552087217
https://catalog.neet.tv/harlequin.html
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>>552086567
>ugh the mon-keigh stench is so strong here
>why is this wound in the veil talking to me?
>i wish in my meditation chamber holding elantach's hand
>for mon-keigh their singing voices are so crude but somewhat approaching pleasant..
awkwardliet
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>>552086567
The OC always sticks out like a sore thumb in these group pics.
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>>552087073
no, you just have to pay attention and read all the tool tips in the investigative journal and do a little thinking.
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>>552085202
the power of HRT
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>Larry is the reason why night lords are in Marisporum
Calling it
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>>552087560
Thanks
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Why does your rogue trader still wear the uniform from their old job
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>>552087940
You never stop being a crime lord
You're just a crime lord who is also a rogue trader
So you never stop wearing the uniform
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>>552087593
Respectfully thinking about massaging Yrliet's sore feet
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>>552087787
Ok thanks
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Quick question for black geyser? If I do a templar/cleric dual class and max out my supernatural stat can I effectively make myself a unkillable tank since there resistances stack?
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>>552087857
Larry will have a running gag of staying one step ahead of his nagging wife who has taken matters into her own hands
>Laarthyr Cairnareth you get back here this instant!
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>>552087593
thinking about Yrliet's sweat rn
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>>552088501
You sound like a Tali fag
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>>552088501
lol
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>>552088501
She doesn't sweat. Her people have advanced beyond the need for sweating.
That also means she'd overheat easily
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>>552089101
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>>552088171
It’d probably be better with one of the other casters. Like winter mage gives you a huge buff to cold resist while still giving you most of the cleric spells
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I think we could all eschew words and talk using wordcloud memes, the quality would only improve
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>>552089101
Would you really hurt such a precious angel?
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>>552087648
It's because she looks too much like Jae, in karaoke picture at least. Casualwear RT is much more distinct
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>>552089438
Yes
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>>552089438
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>>552089702
This bitch got better at drawing
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>>552089438
yes I don't have female elf lust like you
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>>552090449
me in the back
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Why isn't Idira romanceable?
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Please consider:
Fish pussy.
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So, any guesses on who the companion will be for dlc 3? Dlc 4 is obviously an ork, 3 could be a necron or an admech. A cryptek would be a cool addition and basically give us another psyker.
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what the fuck do you MEAN the grave was a bomb??
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>>552091759
They didn't want to cuck Vigdis.
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>>552083410
Huh, that was me. November of 2022, time sure flies.

My prediction became mostly true. She's still condescending and racist, and you do indeed move past that and become the special one that she does say is better than most monkey and has soul joining with you, and doesn't have sex with you. The gist of Yrliet's arc was predictable.

I am also still all for the sob waifu. I don't mind that she doesn't have a romance though, not every character needs one and I still love having her around. She's here to kill stuff, I respect that. But I would have loved it if she did have a romance, especially if it was hard to get and required very specific options and alignment and quest completions and stuff like that.
Perhaps the sob inquisitor in dark heresy will have a romance.

Happy to say I ended up loving the game, after being excited for it before launch. All that speculating was fun, and the game ended up being fun.
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>>552093038
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>Harlequin gets stunned if you have max Iconoclast and are able to understand what he said
So why he speak in shit that don't fucking makes sense?
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So how is the Eldar Corsair in Dark Heresy so far compared to Yrilet?
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>>552093418
>that don't fucking makes sense?
He's pretty easy to understand if you have at least a 3 digit IQ.
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>Make Pasqal a BH
>Give him an Arc Rifle
>Put bounties on people
>Activate his Glory attack
>Delete everyone and my allies in the room
It's stupidly fucking broken
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>>552079317
Troika wanted to make a Werewolf game? I know about Arcanum 2, LoTR, not-Fallout, and the two Bloodlines sequels, but it's the first time I'm hearing about Werewolf.
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>>552093538
He's way chiller so far and doesn't care if you touch him.
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>>552093038
Let's hope DH is just as much fun
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>>552093538
He's completely fine. Everyone is very pleasant and professional
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>>552093538
he wanted to put a hand in Cogg's shoulder and comfort him in one scene, he seems cool.
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Why are female elves so hot?
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>>552093538
He's alright. We'll see who bretrays whom first
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>>552094830
They're high class and fancy and play hard to get
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>>552094830
>knife ears
>hot
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>>552094164
So far I love it. Improvements across many mechanics, and the investigations are tons of fun. Very happy so far.
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>>552095050
why did you respond to yourself
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>>552095108
Two anons can have a cordial exchange without calling themselves niggers you know?
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>>552095326
ummm racism isn't allowed?
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>>552095326
No they can’t you fucker
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NIGGER
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>>552095663
more like not required
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I wish they'd make x-men legends 3
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>>552095849
How much does it sell for?
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>>552095849
That's odd, looks like Cernd's baby
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>>552095108
meds
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>>552093038
>Huh, that was me.
Yeah, I could tell. You have a certain style. Never change who you are.
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How much longer until owlcat makes a horus heresy game?
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i feel bad killing some of these people in divinity but i have genuinely no idea how else i'm supposed to get experience since the graveyard undead are raping my ass
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>>552096297
Skill issue unfortunately
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>>552096297
i remember the first city having lots of non-combat quests and exploration exp.
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>Go Aeon
>Anevia has the "Unlawful Person" aura on her now
This is going to end badly, isn't it?
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>>552097059
everything will be corrected
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>make 5 chaotic evil barbarians
>enter first building in hommlet and murder the inhabitants
>exit
>elmo comes drunkenly stumbling down the road
>wipes the party while taking no damage
>returns to drunkenly stumbling as the screen fades to black
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>>552097059
Is Aeon transphobic?
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StarHyke: The CRPG
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>>552099071
That isn't even makeup
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What commands do I use to check if the Viconia romance can happen in Throne of Bhaal?

I made a similar post yesterday, but I wasn't in chapter 9 yet. Now I am, and beaten another major boss, but still not a word from her, even as we sleep in the tavern, or idle in the city.

I did the Shadows of Amn romance with her as far as I know, perfectly. It still ended on that naturally unsatisfying note, but the wiki says it should restart again after we reach Akmethran.

using the console to check ViconiaRomanceActive gives 3, and it was like that since I first started Throne of Bhaal.
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>>552100250
Commands?
Just open up EEkeeper and check the associated Viconia variable.
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Loved it.
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>>552100450
I've never done that before. also I'm using a Steam Deck, and cloud saves don't really work well for this game.
Is it quick and easy to set up?
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Perfect casting for Cassia
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>>552094164
The alpha is kino
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>>552097059
>Doesn't appear on Daeran
I guess the cosmos have spoken, Daeran has done nothing wrong.
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Perfect casting for Cassia
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>>552102252
Well, she certainly looks like a fucking fish
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>>552100250
Should the value be at 3, or something else? I thought I did everything right in the romance in the main game.
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>>552101202
I don't know anything about steam decks.

I pulled out a page from my guide. I'm not going to read it but I assume it'll be helpful to you.
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Which dolly gets you this experience?
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>>552103895
okay, that's more or less what I already was using.
Is it the same in the expansion? I read somewhere that there was a different variable for Throne of Bhaal romance.
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>>552104063
Craftworld Eldar (Exluding Rangers)
Every guy's all 'Humanity first' until the 8' tall wizard MILF grabs their ass and whispers the names of their future first three children in their ear.
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>>552104325
That's the guide for shadows of amn.
The throne of bhaal guide is separate.

It sounds like in general there are 3 outcomes.
1. romance fails
2. evil Viconia ending
3. good Viconia ending
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>>552104771
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>>552104771
Yep, that's from the page I was viewing earlier. I tried looking up ViconiaChange, and it said the variable does not exist.
As far as I know, I did everything I needed to to get the good viconia ending. I let her down gently when she tried joining me in bed while distressed and anxious, then let her next time when she was more level headed. Then I got to the ending where she breaks up with me.
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>>552104939
Well that explains part of it. being at 3 is not good. Maybe I was a little too understanding with how I took our breakup, and I should have slapped her or something, just so she knows I'm not weak.
(my second playthrough where I romance Imoen can't come fast enough)

So, should I set it to 1 or 2? would it make a difference? would it ever start at 1 and progress normally if you're already in ToB?
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>>552105201
reload the save before that talk
check your relationship variable
if it's 3, reload an earlier save
if it's not, choose different dialogue options

check your alignment
maybe you have to be good to get her to turn good, I don't know but I think I read earlier in the guide that alignment can sometimes impact things
I do know that you can turn neutral evil depending on your choices in the hell trails at the end of the game

if all else fails, manually set the variables to whatever you want
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This was the section from the wiki I was referring to mostly. Sometimes I'd check a more detailed guide so I don't mess up the dialogue too much.
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>>552105635
no, if you're in TOB it should always be 2
set the relationship to 2, and the explovetalk to the conversation before you think things screwed up
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>>552105726
The variable's been at 3 since a couple saves before going to Elf-City in chapter 7.
I can't remember exactly when, or how long I'd have to play from an old save to trigger the end dialogue just to check. (I use way too many quick saves, not enough manual)
Either way, it's been like that for the whole of ToB.
My alignment is Lawful Neutral, which hopefully doesn't mean much. I regretted that choice about twenty hours into the first game. I should have picked Chaotic Good (and I've been playing as if I was) I did all the hell trials properly it seems, so I still haven't become daddy's special little tyrant just yet.
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>>552105860
ok, I manually set it to 2, and she instantly got wet at the thought of hundreds of people dying in a failed attempt to kill just me.
Now I remember why I snubbed Aerie and Jaheira.

No idea how it got where it did, but at least I don't have to load back thirty hours to try and do it all again.

ViconiaChange exists now, and is set to -1.
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>>552107143
Ok, nevermind. I just checked in the guide, and that's ExpLoveTalk 10. so I'll try to set it to 1 and see what happens.
Now I know why later games just give you a "sex now pls" button in random dialogues.
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>>552103551
>L..lord captain
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>>552107978
ok, nevermind again.
I set it to 1, and she just started the same dialogue again.
I tried doing it in chapter 8 right at the start, and she wouldn't say anything. (though maybe I just needed to wander around for an hour to force it.)
Maybe that's just how it goes. At this point, I don't really care. I'm manually setting her change value to 5 and just leaving it at that. As far as I'm concerned. I did everything right, and the game just doesn't want me to have a good time with this.
I don't know how you're supposed to get the earlier dialogue from her.
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>>552108605
Did you not learn with the voice actor thing that nobody wants to see pictures of random celebs you want to fuck
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>>552109267
It's strange that it's giving you trouble. It should be pretty reliable. Just press on with change value 5 and see what happens
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>>552109624
setting the change value to 5 just means I might have a chance to change her alignment.
Maybe that's why you have to turn down sex to change her alignment. That could have allowed for those extra dialogue bits to raise her change value higher than it otherwise would if you didn't give in.
This is messy, and I don't know how anyone would be expected to do this without a guide and console commands.
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What is the philosophical statement of rogue trader?
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>>552109548
oh.... ok
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>>552111116
Sometimes change is necessary, sometimes it's not. But it's always difficult.
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>>552111116
All your thrones are belong to us.
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>philosophy
Gay made up bullshit for people who aren't smart enough to get into science.
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>>552111116
Bureaucracy is funny
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>>552111116
Probably something like "To whom much is given, much is expected" because as a hyperwealthy owner of various star systems who also seems to have ample combat experience and a retinue of unusually skilled savages, you're roped into helping the inquisition handle a c'tan, whatever options you end up choosing along the way.
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>>552111116
Kill all xenos
Burn the heretics
Kill the mutants
Purge the unclean
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>>552111116
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>>552111478
But you hardly do any of that
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>>552111913
>Iconokek self-reporting
grim
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Nobody seriously chooses the Dogma options, right?
You know they're just joke options, don't you?
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>>552111116
Something about change. As in "we can't keep doing things the way we have been". Everything is at a crisis point, not least the whole galaxy being cut in half.
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>>552112450
mistakes were made
>f-for the emperor...yay?
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>>552112919
This was the only dogma choice I unironically reloaded and chose iconoclast instead
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I almost invariably choose dogmatic options but I chose the
>I would put an end to servitorization if I could
option when Yrliet raised the issue on Kiava Gamma and I mean it
The Emperor would not want his people used this way.
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>>552112919
>meant to be a woman talking to her servitortised husband
>it's clearly a male model
Bravo, Owlcat
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>>552113352
it's a mistranslation, useless people get servitorised, her husband is a worker while she's useless so the wife is the one that'd get servitored
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>>552111478
>not making full use of the warrant of trade as the emperor intended
Not very pious of you
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>>552113438
Oh ok that makes sense as a follow-on from the previous encounter where he's a worker returning home to his adoring wife.
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>>552112919
Don't feel bad, they were definitely genestealers
No couple is that happy in real life. They were faking it
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>>552112986
Why would peasants need to read? I'm a rogue trader and I can't read.
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>>552089438
Always irks me when the artist did a good colouring on art that's wonky at best, the shoulders are misaligned and she is cross-eyed. It's like polishing a turd.
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VTMB2 is kinda charming honestly
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How could Owlcat both fulfill fan requests and ruin them at the same time?

>Larry is a romance option
>Compares PC to his dead wife the whole time
>Eventually gives them their own nickname to symbolise he had moved on from 'his starlight'
>settles on 'my mon'keigh'
>then dips and shows up once in the ending when PC is on their deathbed

>A SoB is finally romanceable
>It's the old hag
>Convoluted requirements include playing the most 'no fun allowed' playthroughs and recruiting no xenos.
>Even if you make it to the end all her endings are bad endings that include her going crazy and trying to kill the PC
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>>552114435
Quick shoulder fix, sort of.
Couldn't fix the eyes easily.
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>>552115506
>Larry
Have it be female only, and you do get to help him with his trauma, but the endgame is always him getting back together with his wife.
Femcels would explode.
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>>552115031
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>>552111116
fuck wyches get PF
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My dolly could beat up your dolly
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>>552113109
LMAO
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>>552117069
Obviously I didn't choose the dogmatic option on Janus, that's another obvious exception
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>>552115031
no, it's shit
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>>552115614
Anon sorry if this is your art that I called turd-polishing kek. It's not that bad. I wish I could redline it but the perspective on her pauldron is all off. It is pointing nearly towards the viewer but based on the other pauldron it should aim at somewhere to the right of the one who is viewing your drawing. Cross-eyed look is because you slant they eye corner upwards, there are many ways to deal with it but it's hard to do that pointy eye corner thing and have a natural human-looking pupil. A lot of Eldar artists go for dark sclera when they do them extremely slanted for this reason. Anyhow, baseline artist for 40k Aeldari is Jes Goodwin and the attached image is Beckjann if you want to study how they usually draw them.
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>>552115714
personally i'd be ok with it, i romanced yrliet but let the ritual go through because it seemed stupid to interrupt it and risk fucking up everything, i'd rather have that ending than the sad romanced yrliet ending
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>>552115714
Aeldari belong together. Ask Yrliet and Marazhai. Larry should ride off into the sunset with his Starlight and help fix Aeldari birthrates. Fuck femcels. Fuck Eldarfuckers, and their space jungle fever.
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>>552117872
Oh it's not mine lmao
I just enjoy photoshopping things. All I did was lower it very crudely.
But thanks for the advice and reference
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>>552117924
What happens if you let it complete?
Does she just act like she's never met you before?
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>>552115714
>explode
Nah. I'd respect him more for going back to his wife than if he dumped her for me. Not everything has to end in a romance.
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>>552117872
>Laarthyr without his special hat
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>>552118217
kind of, loses most of her memory of your relationship but does remember being allies when you point it out, you basically go back to platonic yrliet path
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>>552118454
Maybe I'll try that next time
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>>552118454
>the only purpose of the ritual was to brainwash her that monke is le bad
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>>552118693
maybe that getting romantically involved with one is kinda bad but she doesn't leave your ship and you still convince them not to attack humans (if you have right yrliet flags as usual)
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>>552118693
The ritual was literally conversion camp for Yrliet
She will take centuries to recover from the trauma of being forced to renounce her love
And they weren't even her parents
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>>552118693
>Yrliet's POV
Oh, I kinda get it now.
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>>552118693
That's a very strong monke
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>>552119113
Just imagine him with a little commissar cap
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>>552119053
It actually fixes her soul issues from Commorragh, it's just that getting her soul back on track also messes with the changes from your connection.
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>>552117767
it has a lot of nuance and atmosphere
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>>552119317
And she can still get the "Yrliet loves mon-keigh" ending, just she not you in particular
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>>552119551
Yeah it just resets your connection to normal friendship. There's no real reason why you couldn't just start over other than being busy with all the endgame shit and Owlcat assuming your character stops doing anything once the epilogue hits.
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>>552118693
>Yrliet, darling, why don't you get a proper boyfriend and stop hanging around with that small creature
>Your father and I are very concerned
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>>552119539
which goes away 10 minutes in when you realize the world is empty and there's nothing but a railroaded main quest and a few soulless fetch quests while fighting generic enemies
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>>552119903
the world is always empty, just a canvas for roleplay. I really like it. it could have used a lot more obviously, I'm not saying its a masterpiece, but I like it.
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Laarthyr is Yrliet's dad.
Her fatherless behaviour is due to him disappearing on his Tyrant Star related mission for her entire childhood.
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>>552120063
in vtmb 1 you could run into a lot of npcs and interesting sidequests, in 2 there is literally nothing other than the fetch quests
it's like playing in a tech demo
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>>552120209
You could run into quest vending machines, disappearing as soon as their role was fulfilled. it wasn't very dynamic or alive, lets not overstate things
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When's the dark heresy beta coming out I want to build my own character?
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>>552120507
Second half '026
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>>552120395
what is this revisionism? if you want you can pretend every single quest in a crpg is like that but it's ridiculous to claim long quests with multiple endings and ways to get there are the same as a few npcs handing out "kill this guy" "fetch package from dumpster" and "click on graffiti on building" quests
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>>552120682
what is this revisionism?
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games are bad because the waifus don't come home with me when I turn the game off
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>>552120682
I love vtmb but it's not like the game had a huge amount of options for completing quests. Most of the time it's
>did stealth
>didn't do stealth
>maybe persuaded and skipped combat if you've not reached the part of the game where everything turns into a gauntlet
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>>552121729
they can be, I have thought about the female tremere so much that I can conjure every possible detail of her as though she were a real person I really experienced, I know I every contour and smell and sound and hair, I probably know her better than many of the real people in my life, she is functionally real in my mind's eye
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>>552121910
You need to get out more, anon.
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>>552117872
>Beckjann
Thanks for the name, this is pretty good stuff.
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>>552121963
In fact I don't, I have everything I need right here
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>>552121910
You're thinking about her
But she's thinking about me
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>>552121910
>>552122043
PC, doesn't count
you can't bring yourself home
you're living a lie
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>>552121910
>every contour and smell and sound and hair
That's very nice, anon. Is there anything not related to appearance you would like to share?
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>>552122001
My own style of drawing their faces is heavily influenced by him (not that I'm any good lol) but to me he's really the goat. Way better than whoever does them now. Safeugly and lack of waist and all. I weep.
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>>552122603
>here's your dark eldar waifu bro
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>>552122171
>>552122220
I have meditated on the exact nature of her body for over twenty years. I know everything. She's as real as anything else in life. Moreso even. I can't remember my grandfather's voice. But I can recall every detail of her skin, every freckle and mole and imperfection as though it were standing before me.

>>552122572
What would you like to know? She was 19 at the time of her embrace, a virgin, a comp sci major at UCLA who was finally coaxed into a night out by her dorm mate. I know everything, any angle you could think up I've already considered. I know her better than many men know their own wives.
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>>552120132
>Yrliet's dad was a mon-keigh fucker
>it pursued her during aeldari recess for her entire childhood
>her refusal to touch mon-keighs was bullied into her
>she desperately tries to avoid the call of her mon-keigh loving blood
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>>552122718
>mfw Yrliet derangement syndrome is more adjusted than this
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>>552122847
I don't know who that is. I don't care. Tremere pussy today. Tremere pussy forever. With the power of AI I will one day generate entire feature films based around the canon I've developed. I just have to make it until then.
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>>552122974



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