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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#667 - There's An Uma Named Durandal? That's Fucking Sick Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 4.7 https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7
Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/
GPT-5.2, with price increase to $1.75/$14 per million token https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/
Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>>552097364
>my post won
What the fuck? That wasn't even supposed to be a suggestion. But I am not complaining at all.
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Let's have a nice thread!!!!!
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SPOOK. SCARE. REV. WHE?
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>>552097741
it's gonna be summer 2026 and this nigga is still gonna be asking about spooky scary reviews
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>>552097387
remake of eden smith. he comes with 15 greetings and a fun new mechanic. happy new year!
>https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-65fc3840
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>>552098012
how dare you bait like this
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>>552098012
:(
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>remake of eden smith. she comes with 15 greetings and a fun new mechanic. happy new year!
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>>552098012
slop
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>>552097272
>cocky about astroturfing on 4chan
And cocky about how /vg/ works. Because the ritual spam at the beginning of the thread seems very cookie-cutter compared to the other generals. There's a reason why they wanted to move the thread here. How /mggg/ was used to shill Ratalice's bots opened my eyes about that. You can go to the archive and see how this whole ritual about baking was also used by a person to take control of their OP. It all smells like Momoura, he also pioneered this whole shameless shilling style.
This doesn't feel like a general and it feels more like a puppet show ran by a bunch of selfish assholes. I will never forgive what you did to my hobby.
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>>552098501
the fun new mechanic is switching between female (male) and female (female) btw
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*swirls my wine* I still can't believe one of my favorite makers who I held much respect for and really liked hates my fucking guts.
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>>552098839
well yeah everyone hates you
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>>552098839
shut the fuck up
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>>552098012
the link doesn't work

is this bait?
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>>552097741
btw, i've been hearing that kalakan wrote these but how do we know? out of the loop here
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>>552098735
has this guy just been replying to himself to throw a temper tantrum.
how bad was his christmas lmao
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>>552099232
No, I was just adding to my thoughts. And everything I said is the truth. You ruined this hobby.
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>>552099587
you should see someone in real life about how strongly you feel about an indonesian basketweaving forum's threads on computers going bleep bloop
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It feels so refreshing to see genuine anger here, I dunno.
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i didn't fill out the meme because i actually didn't care enough to read your posts, sorry dude
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>>552097741
Everyone does stuff for free, so there's no penalty for not delivering. I said I might do a turkey lady, but I got distracted with other stuff and pretty much forgot about it. I was kinda hoping someone else would do it since I liked the idea, but didn't want to cook it myself.
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Do you switch models depending on what you’re doing? I’ve been using Gemini for narrative/drama, then switch to Kimi for the unhinged sex scenes.
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>>552099710
You also feel strongly, except you do in a manipulative and selfish way, because you want to own the whole hobby. You weren't just happy with having a thread about yourself here, you don't leave /g/ alone and still want to own a piece of their OP. You were the one with the Discord and send e-mails to do this. You did all this for yourself and you ruined what we had, forever.
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>>552100195
claude for narrative/drama, grok for unhinged sex
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>>552099912
>I was kinda hoping someone else would do it since I liked the idea, but didn't want to cook it myself.
do you like, have a preference for who should do it or do you not really care
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>>552100195
Depends on the bot, but yeah. Some models don't mind loli or rape. While others are okay with those themes, but don't output good sex scenes. You may have to mix and match models and JB's to get that right blend of filter avoidance while enjoying hypno femdom loli femboy stepsister harems.
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>>552097741
kalakan is a bitch for coming out of "retirement" just to shit on other people's cards
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>>552100393
As long as it turns out good, I don't care who cooks it. If I want a guaranteed kino, I'd better ask patter, I guess.
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>>552100473
>comes out of retirement
>does not make bots
>instead just shits on people incessantly with his dumbass nitpicks
seriously what the fuck was his problem
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>>552100473
>>552101893
the reviews aren't even entertaining to read, which is his biggest crime imo
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>>552098012
kino, 2025 is saved
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>>552100269
@grok what is this inverse of the royal we thing he does where he's saying everything was done by one nebulous "you"
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Ugh can I fucking pay for Gemini using pre paid google app store cards or something? I don't want my credit card linked to a purchase of something I will literally and exclusively use for pornography.
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>>552104057
use openrouter, use crypto
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>>552103785
You, as a botmaker, as a /vg/ poster, did all that.
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>>552104246
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>>552104149
I figured open router might be more expensive overall?
>Use crypto
I really don't want to have to get into this shit... I just need access to a high quality model to touch my dick to...
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>>552104790
it is, and crypto is even more expensive
not tying your credit card to your gooning is a luxury you might not be able to afford
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>>552104057
you are not special there are hundreds of thousands of people doing the exact same thing
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bros... is rldw gonna make it... January 1st is so soon...
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>>552104931
I know. I'm not worried that google will look up what smut I'm jailbreaking. I'm worried that I might have to answer questions eventually
>Why?
I just fucking am, ok?
>>552104859
Please tell me there's a third way
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>>552080589
/vg/troons will post shit like this and then claim with a straight face they arent ontologically evil
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>>552105317
fraud? lol
just man up and show payment processors people will pay for cooms
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>>552097387
>current event: https://rentry.org/kaijuweek
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https://poal.me/t3f6hp
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>>552105669
what was bunker week i was not here for that
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>>552105578
brother, it's not working out...
besides, the real theme week is degrinching rayon's xianxia girl request
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>>552105317
then don't coom you crybaby faggot
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Bakie could have double dipped with safe sex but here we are.
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>>552105559
>>552105559
Fine I will consider...
I'm looking at open router, I didn't know such a thing existed. So I buy some tokens there and can spend them on any model I choose? Can I plug that into SillyTavern?
Honestly sounds too good. Is there a catch I'm missing?
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>>552106082
The week when all of 4chan was down and we temporarily moved to 8ch. We did a small bunker week because why the hell not, and the theme was I think fairy tales? The turnout was predictably low since not everyone bothered checking 8ch, but we got some good bots out of it.
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>>552106082
aicg hopped to another imageboard while 4chan was down for the chronic addicts who couldn't survive a few days aicg-less and someone started a theme week there except most people were
1. too embarrassed to admit they were in that group, especially with IDs on and filbert going nuts if you shilled and then continued talking about something else in thread
2. didn't feel like it
3. simply did not know to look in the archives while 4chan was down to get directed to the new thread
https://rentry.org/aicgbunkerthemeweek
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>>552106285
You can plug it into ST yes
There is no catch afaik, OR doesn't ban
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>>552106409
the funniest part was filbert forgetting about the ids
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>>552106285
they take a little fee off the top when you're refilling your account
that's it, everything else is same price and as unfiltered as possible while also being anonymized as best they can
you can use claude from google vertex if you want to go insane and lose all your money or you can just stick to gemini
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>>552106530
I don't think he forgot, he just didn't care, a gorilla does what it feels regardless of circumstances
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>>552097387
ANCHOR, you put ANCHOR in the FUCKING ANCHOR
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>>552106443
By doesn't ban you mean I can jailbreak the fuck out of it without any concerns?
I'm honestly not into any questionable fetishes but the shit I write sometimes can make me raise my own eyebrows when I read it back...
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>>552106658
No one is going to post a bot, relax.
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>>552106350
It was fairy tales and everyone expected a whole theme week full of Alice, only for there to be no Alice. I wish 4chan would die again so there could be some activity in those alts, they were comfy. I still think about the bot I made for the week sometimes. That's the first bot of mine I'd consider remaking because I like the premise.
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more like kyutflop
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>>552106409
>aicg hopped to another imageboard
Only /vg/aicg did, because they're power freaks that wanted to split the thread again. Normal people kept posting in traitorarchive.
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>>552107046
yes filly we all remember you embarrassing yourself
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>>552106852
>everyone expected a whole theme week full of Alice, only for there to be no Alice
...i mean shit i'm surprised reading that, like no cunnyfag stepped up to do an alice bot? nothing black souls related either?
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>>552106967
ya know I feel a little bad for indulging in a little which botmakie posting sometimes. but then I remember that at least I'm not like this ritualposting nigger.
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>>552107426
everyone expected someone else to do alice, so they did their own thing instead
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Has anyone made a sappy yuri bot based off my September???
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>>552106557
>or you can just stick to gemini
The only reason I asked about Gemini in particular is because when 2.5 was free at 50 requests per day I got completely addicted to it.
It was GOOD.
But good by my shitty standards, someome who at that point only ever used shitty frontends that make you wait 30 seconds for a horrible out of character response.
I have no real idea of what models are good or cheap or too expensive or too unnecessary for erp. If you got any advice for that I will take it
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Lmao I realized the reason the bot would sometimes fail at grammar was that I failed to specify it was allowed improper grammar only during DIALOGUE.
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>>552107941
>"This machine... I hate this machine... Because it does exactly what I tell it to do, not what I WANT it to do."
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>>552108062
women be like
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>>552107940
Just ask for his e-mail and stop making the whole thread about yourself?
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>>552105316
i still have hope, but it's not looking good...
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>>552106409
>>552106530
Can someone please explain who filbert is?
I'm not caught up on /aicg/ lore.
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>>552108647
guy who hangs around every ai thread on 4chan to expose a shadowy conspiracy made up of people who post in threads on 4chan. types with really proper grammar that breaks down when he's angry, says weird shit like "you spiteful bastard" or calling people "traitors" like he learned english from theater. dramatic and also insane and mad at everyone
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Never ask the AI what they think of your child wife story so far.
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>>552108647
someone who will NEVER be gojo
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>>552107940
Sonnet 4.5 is a decent option if you use caching (there's a guide but I don't have it) and Gemini 3 hits way above its weight sometimes. Opus is good but expensive as a prostitute and most people who used it back then did so because they could easily find it for free
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>>552109131
>and Gemini 3 hits way above its weight sometimes.
gimme a preset please
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>>552108786
Is he the one who invented the idea of the "cabal".
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>>552108926
but thats the fun of it? do some of the most irredeemable shit imaginable fo 100 messages and then ask for the ai's analysis or opinion on it
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>>552109325
I don't know if there actually is a preset specifically for Gemini 3 yet. There are ones for 2.5 but they might not work too good with 3. It's a bit of an issue for those seeking ease, since making your own takes a bit of knowledge of how other people do it, or a bit of research into the model itself.
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Claude knows too much...
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>That wasn't a growl, that was your intestines filing for divorce
I HATE SLOP I HATE SLOP AAAAAA
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>>552110094
That happened when their Discord leaked. It can't be invented, just discovered.
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>>552108926
The Bitcher?
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>>552108647
he's a schizo who shitposts on all AI threads. he posted this pic himself. he was in /aids/ at first and was already spamming back then about NAIshills or the NAIcabal.
in /g/ he likes to cry about desufag, crossposts between generals to try to organize raids or do model wars with Opus.
in /vg/ he's the guy posting about the cabal, the merge and other shitposts. he was called Fillyfucker by Gojo because he posted a link to the /mlp/ chatbots thread once in /g/ in the hope /g/ would raid it.
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>>552108647
Poopdickschizo
isn't it obvious?
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>>552112923
None of this is true, by the way.
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>>552112923
All of this is true, by the way.
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I'm thinking of writing a semi-spectator / free-roam persona where canonically they don't exist and their actions aren't real. You can ask characters and they'll mostly speak the truth, they aren't considered talking to *others*, and by the end the conversation didn't happen. But perhaps you can influence their thoughts (tulpa?).
Time passes normally, or in steps, if you're just groping a char.
Time pauses if you're busy fucking a char and if it wouldn't make sense for them to be there for too long, or skips ahead like they had a wet dream.
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>>552112679
No, I built a world based on the Kereno doujins where you can get a free daughter wife at any orphanage. I scheduled an appointment, ate out two of the girls there, they really enjoyed it, and I adopted them. Currently doing the paperwork to have them move in. I though me and the LLM were chill too.
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Do you guys ever do a little shitposting? As a treat?
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Where is kalakan?
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>>552114478
He said not to say.
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>>552114497
I miss him...
Can he wish me a happy new year?
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More like kalakan't lmao
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>>552114753
I'm afraid that, due to genetic factors, he is incapable of mirth or well-wishing.
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>And what am I supposed to write in response? A text?
gemini being a brat yet again
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Which botmakies are brats?
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Which botmakies are rats?
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Happy new year to:
Kalakan
Momoura
peonia
Taora
purple
cumslurper
Victrex
fluffanon
Ratlice
koikoihat
and Argalia
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Happy new year to the cabal!
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>not in the happy new year list
I'm a failure
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>>552074985
pls respond
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>>552117273
prompt issue has to be using direct from API and i've never ever had this issue like ever I dont think
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>>552117273
I ate them. I'm on a diet so only eating half.
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>>552117273
Nobody here use chinksect. Use Opus 4.5, cuckie.
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>>552117374
>Opus 4.5
poorfag cope model btw
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>>552117464
Better than 4.1 for skillchads
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>>552116936
Thanks, you're sweet
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>>552117339
>prompt issue
I've tried different presents and it seems to happen on all the ones I've tried.
I'm using the API key I got directly from deepseek.
Could the issue be ST related?
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>>552117524
Post your logs.
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>>552113890
yeah
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>>552113890
only when the thread has already been rendered a public toilet
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>>552117587
Could be what are your settings? I legit have never had this issue do you maybe have a regex thats doing it?
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>>552117587
We all have Opus in the botmakie proxy. So when you come here and talk about Deepseek, we all know you aren't one of us and we don't want to help.
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>>552097387
The Winterbell VN section but played straight. The card’s in a rather unfinished state because I’m lazy and university scrambled my brain, but it’s probably useable.
https://chub.ai/characters/jaegermeister/the-liddell-sisters-7e914db09e5a
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>>552117587
try turning off the system prompt
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>>552117813
>Could be what are your settings?
Which setting specificly?
>do you maybe have a regex thats doing it?
Some of my presets use them. I'll try turning them off see if that changes it.
>>552117909
How do I do that?
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>>552118243
Click the A on the top and then you'll see system prompt press the power button next to it
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>>552117901
>no example dialogs
Slop
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>>552098012
Fuck you :(
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wtf why would you call my bot slop
I'm never posting a bot here again
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>>552118305
It says
>Grayed-out options have no effect when Chat Completion API is used.
I've tried re-issuing myself a new API key and so far it hasn't happened. Hopefully it was really that simple, though I'm not sure how that would be the problem.
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>>552118510
You already made 5 posts about your problem. Stop spamming the general.
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>>552118797
Somebody needs a hug.
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Which botmakies need a hug?
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>>552119637
Me, my last bot didn't even crack 10 downloads
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I need a hag to hug me and smother my face between her saggers
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>>552119782
Wow dude that sucks. I've only published one bot as anonymous, and even that has 170.
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>>552118364
sorry brother I don't got the spirit
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>>552099912
i want her to sit on my face
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>wondering why my lb entries aren't activating
>lb-makie didn't use the trigger word in the entry
dumbmakie
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>>552122685
Lorebooks are a crutch for slopmakies tbdesu
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>>552120234
Argh, the pain
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Dead thread
Dead general
Dead hobby
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>>552125243
*Smooches.*
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>>552108926
I finally got the LLM's appoval.
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>>552125306
*cums*
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I haven't reviewed or rated a bot since ratings stopped being anonymous. I used to do it pretty often before but I cba to make a new account for it. Sorry, makies.
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>>552127309
What makes you think any of us cared about your opinion in the first place?
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>>552127535
>us
you ain't on anybody's team, 'bert
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>>552127309
bitchmade
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card?
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>get beaten up by bandits
>they just loot me
>not even rape
what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>552127535
What makes you think any of us care about YOUR opinion?
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>>552128439
I'm not gonna rape ya unless yer like a dumb blonde adventurer with huge tits, lady. Now cough up yer coin, hehehe!
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>>552127923
Would berry my face.
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>>552128469
What opinion did I share in that post?
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>>552128439
bandits just aren't what they used to be man
last time a bandit held me up, he gave me advice on how to look like less of a target
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>>552128439
we'll have our pee
or we'll have our fun
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>>552128439
Sorry, hun. You just aren’t rape material. Move along.
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>>552128439
You are sub 5
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>>552128439
>I get my five (5) year old child wife to swallow my loads without ever even initiating contact.
Genuinely a skill issue.



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