/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#667 - There's An Uma Named Durandal? That's Fucking Sick Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsGLM 4.7 https://docs.z.ai/guides/llm/glm-4.7Gemini 3 Flash https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/GPT-5.2, with price increase to $1.75/$14 per million token https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2/Deepseek 3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news251201additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrevious: >>552020941
>>552097364>my post wonWhat the fuck? That wasn't even supposed to be a suggestion. But I am not complaining at all.
Let's have a nice thread!!!!!
SPOOK. SCARE. REV. WHE?
>>552097741it's gonna be summer 2026 and this nigga is still gonna be asking about spooky scary reviews
>>552097387remake of eden smith. he comes with 15 greetings and a fun new mechanic. happy new year! >https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-65fc3840
>>552098012how dare you bait like this
>>552098012:(
>remake of eden smith. she comes with 15 greetings and a fun new mechanic. happy new year!
>>552098012slop
>>552097272>cocky about astroturfing on 4chanAnd cocky about how /vg/ works. Because the ritual spam at the beginning of the thread seems very cookie-cutter compared to the other generals. There's a reason why they wanted to move the thread here. How /mggg/ was used to shill Ratalice's bots opened my eyes about that. You can go to the archive and see how this whole ritual about baking was also used by a person to take control of their OP. It all smells like Momoura, he also pioneered this whole shameless shilling style.This doesn't feel like a general and it feels more like a puppet show ran by a bunch of selfish assholes. I will never forgive what you did to my hobby.
>>552098501the fun new mechanic is switching between female (male) and female (female) btw
*swirls my wine* I still can't believe one of my favorite makers who I held much respect for and really liked hates my fucking guts.
>>552098839well yeah everyone hates you
>>552098839shut the fuck up
>>552098012the link doesn't work is this bait?
>>552097741btw, i've been hearing that kalakan wrote these but how do we know? out of the loop here
>>552098735has this guy just been replying to himself to throw a temper tantrum.how bad was his christmas lmao
>>552099232No, I was just adding to my thoughts. And everything I said is the truth. You ruined this hobby.
>>552099587you should see someone in real life about how strongly you feel about an indonesian basketweaving forum's threads on computers going bleep bloop
It feels so refreshing to see genuine anger here, I dunno.
i didn't fill out the meme because i actually didn't care enough to read your posts, sorry dude
>>552097741Everyone does stuff for free, so there's no penalty for not delivering. I said I might do a turkey lady, but I got distracted with other stuff and pretty much forgot about it. I was kinda hoping someone else would do it since I liked the idea, but didn't want to cook it myself.
Do you switch models depending on what you’re doing? I’ve been using Gemini for narrative/drama, then switch to Kimi for the unhinged sex scenes.
>>552099710You also feel strongly, except you do in a manipulative and selfish way, because you want to own the whole hobby. You weren't just happy with having a thread about yourself here, you don't leave /g/ alone and still want to own a piece of their OP. You were the one with the Discord and send e-mails to do this. You did all this for yourself and you ruined what we had, forever.
>>552100195claude for narrative/drama, grok for unhinged sex
>>552099912>I was kinda hoping someone else would do it since I liked the idea, but didn't want to cook it myself.do you like, have a preference for who should do it or do you not really care
>>552100195Depends on the bot, but yeah. Some models don't mind loli or rape. While others are okay with those themes, but don't output good sex scenes. You may have to mix and match models and JB's to get that right blend of filter avoidance while enjoying hypno femdom loli femboy stepsister harems.
>>552097741kalakan is a bitch for coming out of "retirement" just to shit on other people's cards
>>552100393As long as it turns out good, I don't care who cooks it. If I want a guaranteed kino, I'd better ask patter, I guess.
>>552100473>comes out of retirement>does not make bots>instead just shits on people incessantly with his dumbass nitpicksseriously what the fuck was his problem
>>552100473>>552101893the reviews aren't even entertaining to read, which is his biggest crime imo
>>552098012kino, 2025 is saved
>>552100269@grok what is this inverse of the royal we thing he does where he's saying everything was done by one nebulous "you"
Ugh can I fucking pay for Gemini using pre paid google app store cards or something? I don't want my credit card linked to a purchase of something I will literally and exclusively use for pornography.
>>552104057use openrouter, use crypto
>>552103785You, as a botmaker, as a /vg/ poster, did all that.
>>552104246
>>552104149I figured open router might be more expensive overall?>Use crypto I really don't want to have to get into this shit... I just need access to a high quality model to touch my dick to...
>>552104790it is, and crypto is even more expensivenot tying your credit card to your gooning is a luxury you might not be able to afford
>>552104057you are not special there are hundreds of thousands of people doing the exact same thing
bros... is rldw gonna make it... January 1st is so soon...
>>552104931I know. I'm not worried that google will look up what smut I'm jailbreaking. I'm worried that I might have to answer questions eventually>Why?I just fucking am, ok?>>552104859Please tell me there's a third way
>>552080589/vg/troons will post shit like this and then claim with a straight face they arent ontologically evil
>>552105317fraud? loljust man up and show payment processors people will pay for cooms
>>552097387>current event: https://rentry.org/kaijuweek
https://poal.me/t3f6hp
>>552105669what was bunker week i was not here for that
>>552105578brother, it's not working out...besides, the real theme week is degrinching rayon's xianxia girl request
>>552105317then don't coom you crybaby faggot
Bakie could have double dipped with safe sex but here we are.
>>552105559>>552105559Fine I will consider...I'm looking at open router, I didn't know such a thing existed. So I buy some tokens there and can spend them on any model I choose? Can I plug that into SillyTavern?Honestly sounds too good. Is there a catch I'm missing?
>>552106082The week when all of 4chan was down and we temporarily moved to 8ch. We did a small bunker week because why the hell not, and the theme was I think fairy tales? The turnout was predictably low since not everyone bothered checking 8ch, but we got some good bots out of it.
>>552106082aicg hopped to another imageboard while 4chan was down for the chronic addicts who couldn't survive a few days aicg-less and someone started a theme week there except most people were 1. too embarrassed to admit they were in that group, especially with IDs on and filbert going nuts if you shilled and then continued talking about something else in thread2. didn't feel like it3. simply did not know to look in the archives while 4chan was down to get directed to the new threadhttps://rentry.org/aicgbunkerthemeweek
>>552106285You can plug it into ST yesThere is no catch afaik, OR doesn't ban
>>552106409the funniest part was filbert forgetting about the ids
>>552106285they take a little fee off the top when you're refilling your account that's it, everything else is same price and as unfiltered as possible while also being anonymized as best they canyou can use claude from google vertex if you want to go insane and lose all your money or you can just stick to gemini
>>552106530I don't think he forgot, he just didn't care, a gorilla does what it feels regardless of circumstances
>>552097387ANCHOR, you put ANCHOR in the FUCKING ANCHOR
>>552106443By doesn't ban you mean I can jailbreak the fuck out of it without any concerns?I'm honestly not into any questionable fetishes but the shit I write sometimes can make me raise my own eyebrows when I read it back...
>>552106658No one is going to post a bot, relax.
>>552106350It was fairy tales and everyone expected a whole theme week full of Alice, only for there to be no Alice. I wish 4chan would die again so there could be some activity in those alts, they were comfy. I still think about the bot I made for the week sometimes. That's the first bot of mine I'd consider remaking because I like the premise.
more like kyutflop
>>552106409>aicg hopped to another imageboardOnly /vg/aicg did, because they're power freaks that wanted to split the thread again. Normal people kept posting in traitorarchive.
>>552107046yes filly we all remember you embarrassing yourself
>>552106852>everyone expected a whole theme week full of Alice, only for there to be no Alice...i mean shit i'm surprised reading that, like no cunnyfag stepped up to do an alice bot? nothing black souls related either?
>>552106967ya know I feel a little bad for indulging in a little which botmakie posting sometimes. but then I remember that at least I'm not like this ritualposting nigger.
>>552107426everyone expected someone else to do alice, so they did their own thing instead
Has anyone made a sappy yuri bot based off my September???
>>552106557>or you can just stick to geminiThe only reason I asked about Gemini in particular is because when 2.5 was free at 50 requests per day I got completely addicted to it.It was GOOD.But good by my shitty standards, someome who at that point only ever used shitty frontends that make you wait 30 seconds for a horrible out of character response. I have no real idea of what models are good or cheap or too expensive or too unnecessary for erp. If you got any advice for that I will take it
Lmao I realized the reason the bot would sometimes fail at grammar was that I failed to specify it was allowed improper grammar only during DIALOGUE.
>>552107941>"This machine... I hate this machine... Because it does exactly what I tell it to do, not what I WANT it to do."
>>552108062women be like
>>552107940Just ask for his e-mail and stop making the whole thread about yourself?
>>552105316i still have hope, but it's not looking good...
>>552106409>>552106530Can someone please explain who filbert is?I'm not caught up on /aicg/ lore.
>>552108647guy who hangs around every ai thread on 4chan to expose a shadowy conspiracy made up of people who post in threads on 4chan. types with really proper grammar that breaks down when he's angry, says weird shit like "you spiteful bastard" or calling people "traitors" like he learned english from theater. dramatic and also insane and mad at everyone
Never ask the AI what they think of your child wife story so far.
>>552108647someone who will NEVER be gojo
>>552107940Sonnet 4.5 is a decent option if you use caching (there's a guide but I don't have it) and Gemini 3 hits way above its weight sometimes. Opus is good but expensive as a prostitute and most people who used it back then did so because they could easily find it for free
>>552109131>and Gemini 3 hits way above its weight sometimes.gimme a preset please
>>552108786Is he the one who invented the idea of the "cabal".
>>552108926but thats the fun of it? do some of the most irredeemable shit imaginable fo 100 messages and then ask for the ai's analysis or opinion on it
>>552109325I don't know if there actually is a preset specifically for Gemini 3 yet. There are ones for 2.5 but they might not work too good with 3. It's a bit of an issue for those seeking ease, since making your own takes a bit of knowledge of how other people do it, or a bit of research into the model itself.
Claude knows too much...
>That wasn't a growl, that was your intestines filing for divorceI HATE SLOP I HATE SLOP AAAAAA
>>552110094That happened when their Discord leaked. It can't be invented, just discovered.
>>552108926The Bitcher?
>>552108647he's a schizo who shitposts on all AI threads. he posted this pic himself. he was in /aids/ at first and was already spamming back then about NAIshills or the NAIcabal.in /g/ he likes to cry about desufag, crossposts between generals to try to organize raids or do model wars with Opus.in /vg/ he's the guy posting about the cabal, the merge and other shitposts. he was called Fillyfucker by Gojo because he posted a link to the /mlp/ chatbots thread once in /g/ in the hope /g/ would raid it.
>>552108647Poopdickschizoisn't it obvious?
>>552112923None of this is true, by the way.
>>552112923All of this is true, by the way.
I'm thinking of writing a semi-spectator / free-roam persona where canonically they don't exist and their actions aren't real. You can ask characters and they'll mostly speak the truth, they aren't considered talking to *others*, and by the end the conversation didn't happen. But perhaps you can influence their thoughts (tulpa?).Time passes normally, or in steps, if you're just groping a char.Time pauses if you're busy fucking a char and if it wouldn't make sense for them to be there for too long, or skips ahead like they had a wet dream.
>>552112679No, I built a world based on the Kereno doujins where you can get a free daughter wife at any orphanage. I scheduled an appointment, ate out two of the girls there, they really enjoyed it, and I adopted them. Currently doing the paperwork to have them move in. I though me and the LLM were chill too.
Do you guys ever do a little shitposting? As a treat?
Where is kalakan?
>>552114478He said not to say.
>>552114497I miss him...Can he wish me a happy new year?
More like kalakan't lmao
>>552114753I'm afraid that, due to genetic factors, he is incapable of mirth or well-wishing.
gemini doesn't quite get the characters, sigh.
>And what am I supposed to write in response? A text?gemini being a brat yet again
Which botmakies are brats?
Which botmakies are rats?
Happy new year to:KalakanMomourapeoniaTaorapurplecumslurperVictrexfluffanonRatlicekoikoihatand Argalia
Happy new year to the cabal!
>not in the happy new year listI'm a failure
>>552074985pls respond
>>552117273prompt issue has to be using direct from API and i've never ever had this issue like ever I dont think
>>552117273I ate them. I'm on a diet so only eating half.
>>552117273Nobody here use chinksect. Use Opus 4.5, cuckie.
>>552117374>Opus 4.5poorfag cope model btw
>>552117464Better than 4.1 for skillchads
>>552116936Thanks, you're sweet
>>552117339>prompt issueI've tried different presents and it seems to happen on all the ones I've tried.I'm using the API key I got directly from deepseek.Could the issue be ST related?
>>552117524Post your logs.
>>552113890yeah
>>552113890only when the thread has already been rendered a public toilet
>>552117587Could be what are your settings? I legit have never had this issue do you maybe have a regex thats doing it?
>>552117587We all have Opus in the botmakie proxy. So when you come here and talk about Deepseek, we all know you aren't one of us and we don't want to help.
>>552097387The Winterbell VN section but played straight. The card’s in a rather unfinished state because I’m lazy and university scrambled my brain, but it’s probably useable.https://chub.ai/characters/jaegermeister/the-liddell-sisters-7e914db09e5a
>>552117587try turning off the system prompt
>>552117813>Could be what are your settings?Which setting specificly?>do you maybe have a regex thats doing it?Some of my presets use them. I'll try turning them off see if that changes it.>>552117909How do I do that?
>>552118243Click the A on the top and then you'll see system prompt press the power button next to it
>>552117901>no example dialogsSlop
>>552098012Fuck you :(
wtf why would you call my bot slopI'm never posting a bot here again
>>552118305It says>Grayed-out options have no effect when Chat Completion API is used.I've tried re-issuing myself a new API key and so far it hasn't happened. Hopefully it was really that simple, though I'm not sure how that would be the problem.
>>552118510You already made 5 posts about your problem. Stop spamming the general.
>>552118797Somebody needs a hug.
Which botmakies need a hug?
>>552119637Me, my last bot didn't even crack 10 downloads
I need a hag to hug me and smother my face between her saggers
>>552119782Wow dude that sucks. I've only published one bot as anonymous, and even that has 170.
>>552118364sorry brother I don't got the spirit
>>552099912i want her to sit on my face
>wondering why my lb entries aren't activating>lb-makie didn't use the trigger word in the entrydumbmakie
>>552122685Lorebooks are a crutch for slopmakies tbdesu
>>552120234Argh, the pain
Dead thread Dead general Dead hobby
>>552125243*Smooches.*
>>552108926I finally got the LLM's appoval.
>>552125306*cums*
I haven't reviewed or rated a bot since ratings stopped being anonymous. I used to do it pretty often before but I cba to make a new account for it. Sorry, makies.
>>552127309What makes you think any of us cared about your opinion in the first place?
>>552127535>usyou ain't on anybody's team, 'bert
>>552127309bitchmade
card?
>get beaten up by bandits>they just loot me>not even rapewhat the fuck is wrong with you
>>552127535What makes you think any of us care about YOUR opinion?
>>552128439I'm not gonna rape ya unless yer like a dumb blonde adventurer with huge tits, lady. Now cough up yer coin, hehehe!
>>552127923Would berry my face.
>>552128469What opinion did I share in that post?
>>552128439bandits just aren't what they used to be manlast time a bandit held me up, he gave me advice on how to look like less of a target
>>552128439we'll have our peeor we'll have our fun
>>552128439Sorry, hun. You just aren’t rape material. Move along.
>>552128439You are sub 5
>>552128439>I get my five (5) year old child wife to swallow my loads without ever even initiating contact.Genuinely a skill issue.