>>552118596
If it helps at all, vast majority of zealots you see are martyrdom for some reason.

>>552118596
In havoc 40, no, not really. People still want it. Zealot is still good for the same things it was good for before (purity aura, chorus, flamer brittleness support, the occasional boss killing if you do bring thammer which is actually fine on chorus but usually relic blade or dueling sword are better for general purpose, and instagibbing bosses isn't needed with the right lineup)
In the hardstuckie bracket, and general consensus from shitters, yes absolutely. People hate zealot now and think it's useless dogshit, because the class struggles to get green circles in auric. The only way it's really competitive in auric is if you damagemaxx all the way complete with martyrdom and FotF.

Both sides are correct in their own way. Zealot has indeed suffered a lot from the rework/nerfs, as well as more power creep. You'll have psykers, scum and arbitrators killing shit before you even get in range, but chorus is still one of the greatest abilities in the game, and you still can't fucking die.

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>>552118637
I have been posting so much that I only get two stages now and only the easy spot the difference pics

I’m kind of curious, what are /coopg/‘s favorite Sci-Fi franchises? Is there another that can work in the style of a Tide game or just as a coop game in general?

>get my havoc 40 title
>motivation to keep playing immediately plummets
I don't even want to go for true survivor because I'm a solo queuer so you need to win the lottery and get matched with S-tier teammates

>>552118596
book got its cooldown nerfed
zealot was always a pretty big underperformer even when he was spamming the book, now he's just a wet fucking fart compared to veteran who can do literally everything zealot does a million times better, all at once
anyone who disagrees was getting carried by easy invites to h40 where they would eek out a meager half a million in damage and convince themselves that the team totally needed those pulse staggers

I purposely took a dog ass weapon on desperado scum and still did the best, yet I dislike the class.

>>552120336
Brittleness enables psykers in ways you can't even imagine, chorus stops rape trains of 5 bosses from even mattering, and if you can barely even eke out (yes, that's how you spell it, ESLgroid) half a million damage IN YOUR HANDS that's a skill issue.
>nerf = le bad
kys retard cattle

>eek out
Oh man, SEA hours.
>grossly exaggerated post too

>>552120521
hive scum now does everything your shitty support slut build did but much better while also shitting out 1-2 million in ranged damage
you are obsolete

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>>552120521
>>552120592
>>552120336
Eek

>>552120652
Anon I play arbitrator in havoc, not zealot.
Scum doesn't deal with 5 bosses coming your way at the same time, and scum doesn't conveniently instagib ledge them and daemonhosts.
You don't know what you're talking about. Everyone can see that. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>zealot is fine look at all the things it gives to the rest of the group
>well no i wouldnt play it i want to kill enemies
>someone definitely should play zealot though its really good
>just not me

>>552120271
what about a Star Trek one where you fight against the Borg? could be kinda cool

>>552120271
Resident Evil-tide

rat flail

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>>552120271
Republic Commando could be adapted to tide style game

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I'm about to meme, wish me luck

>>552120767
>I c-can ledge that daemonhost!
>there's no ledge
>oh...then I can spend much longer than literally any other class in the game trying to kill it!
great job, meanwhile the two krak and power sword vets on the team already killed four of the monstrosities while you were pathing to your ledge

>>552120521
>brittleness
Bring rumbler ogryn, 90% of them bring a power maul now too. So zealot's flamer is obsolete.
And yes, zealot is bad now. It is not up for debate, he is just a piss bot that staggers enemies occasionally or ledges a boss.
Ogryn already does the stagger better and with no ability and a boss ledging is a gimmick that's a crutch for bad teams. Good teams kill bosses in matter if seconds without the book.

>>552121008
This is going to be a disaster

>I can make up a scenario in my head that conveniently benefits me!
It truly is that time of day.

>>552120793
I miss when I could consistently pull my weight with FotF and relic blade without needing the flamer

Brittleness and rending are retarded dead stats that do NOTHING. Literally fucking nothing unless you can stack 100% which is never going to happen. Literal dead stats and detrimental compared to taking something actually useful.

lol

>>552121116
>the best blessing in the game, uncanny strike, is somehow bad
This isn't even good bait, try harder.

>>552121084
>load into maelstrom
>spawn in with 50% corruption
>2 down
>1 dies as I look around
>they barely even made it past the first point of no return
>snipers from every angle that everyone ignores
>too many flamers for me to even be anywhere
>3 shitters wipe within a minute while I kill the snipers
>coherency regen meme stops working because everyone is dead
Very prophetic, anon.
I quit because I'm not carrying 3 worthless retards, fuck that

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Cooperation will be ours

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come to think of it, enemies coming out of doors like some scooby doo haunted house tour is comical and thus darktide is shit compared to vermintide

>doing maybe an extra 100 damage to armored units over the course of a game is bait compared to the half million you would get out of just critmaxxing
Ok.

>>552120709
Ahh! A rat!

>>552120271
40k is arguably the one most conductive for both of them. So many different settings and scenarios you can contrive it’s crazy. DT is a rather tame idea.

>>552121008
>coherency regen
If only it wasn't straight up disabled by mere proximity.

>>552121314
>didn't work 'cause everyone was dead
Not the outcome I was expecting before clicking on the replies kek

>>552122146
>disabled by mere proximity.
And by mere enemies targeting you in melee

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>>552120271
Stargate, but only for SG-1. It's practically perfectly set up for being made into a co-op game.
>4 humans deploy to planets unknown in search of tech and new alliances to fight off the coming Goa'uld

>>552122146
>>552122284
Yeah I know how coherency regen works and what all disables it, I figured it was at least worth testing anyway.
So far the biggest takeaway is that it definitely makes a noticeable difference by mostly invalidating shooters, and completely invalidating any and all toughness chip during periods of low action.
Too Stubborn to Die is in no way more useful than Steady Grip, it seems.
Lynchpin even on its own might almost be worth it, honestly. The 3x+30% on the curios maybe not so much. Revive speed would be infinitely more useful when playing with retards, and cooldown reduction even more when playing with worthless shitters. Or just resistances, or even toughness actually.

>>552122782
Hank used to recommend it in his ogrynomicon. That should tell you what you need to know about his level of skill

>>552123056
I weirdly agree with recommending this to new/bad/retarded players. I used to use coherency toughness regen on ogryn myself, when I was completely new, because I struggled with stray shooters plinking me down, and the stat actually does solve that problem.
It just seems mostly useless when you actually know how to slide and move, i.e. have good fundamentals.
Still trying to see how useful the +100% node actually is. Should be nice in theory, but the opportunity cost of giving up a point seems a little rough.

>>552122401
Shame the IP is cursed when it comes to video games

>>552123163
It used to be the way to go before the first ogryn rework when the light spam mk 3 cleaver with confident strike was the ogryn meta

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havoc 40 being easier than 20-30 due to teammates is so true it hurts. joined a 40 on a whim just to see if they'd accept (highest cleared 32 this havoc cycle) and even though I played pretty badly we got the clear
meanwhile joining lower havocs is just a death fest full of meme loadouts that don't kill bosses quickly enough

>>552108130
inquisitor grendyl is probably brahm's great grandfather and has become some kind of entity fused with the mourningstar, possibly tzeentch shenanigans and there's genestealers on the ship and there's an aeldari ship shadowing the mourningstar. there you go

>>552124190
>probably brahm's great grandfather and has become some kind of entity fused with the mourningstar
Everything pointing to this is circumstantial at best. It’s more likely that that’s a separate plot point.

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>be me
>wake up
>start a malice game
>easy-peasy
>True Survivor HIV Cum
>runs ahead, because of course he does
>killing well enough, kill-feed proves he isn't doing nothing
>not pushing the other malice-lets around and just kinda waiting for us all to join up at the checkpoints
>scripted boss
>naturally he runs past the boss
>finish the boss off pretty easily as vet with a zealot
>he somehow got ledged while we were fighting the boss
>as we're making our way to him he starts showing his True Survivor side
>complaining we are slow
>calling us all noobs
>telling us to hurry up and rescue him so he can continue carrying
>*chirp*
>he runs off ahead again still complaining
>victory, but at what cost
You think these people own mirrors?

DING DING DING WAKE UP RATFAG COME AND CLAIM YOUR SHITTY WEAPON ILLUSION

>>552124190
I don't think he's got an entity bound to the ship, I think it's just him and he's using some kooky machinery to live as long as he does. He knew the inquisitor that picked up Morrow after the first war for armageddon, that puts him at 400 years old at least. Rejuvenat treatments can only push human life so far and since he's got Kharib attending to him, whatever horror he's turned himself into is biological in nature. Smart money's on a halo device.

>>552124425
>You think these people own mirrors?
clearly not. Yikes.

Realistically speaking, how can fatshark fix melee scum, without fucking up everything else

>>552125119
Remove the downside from rampage. That's it.

>havoc 30-something
>knife zealot and cleaver hivcum just zoomzoom past non-stop and I either have to stay around trying to keep shit off the psyker or run around with the zealot and hivcum
I think the zealot thought that Invocation of Death stacks. He had as much crit stacked everywhere he could.

>>552123978
20 is only easier if you stack, otherwise 20 is unironically some of the absolute hardest content in the game, purely Because the only people that will apply to 20s are other 20s, and other 20s are new players or the people with weirdly inflated egos from succeeding in auric for years and thinking they've learned everything in the game and don't need to adapt

>>552125145
What if scum wants to share his meds with tryhards?

>>552125119
Remove the debuff and make adrenaline a ramping buff as long as you attacking, instead of a burst of stats at 30 stacks on repeat.

>>552124190
There WAS a genestealer on the ship. Brunt stomped it, otherwise we have no idea if there are other genestealers.
Though, it is suspicious and concerning that Brunt himself is missing.

>>552125119
Melee works fine. Increase base health and toughness so it's not made of paper, but really this would just be for people who don't know how to block or avoid damage.

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Could Eisenhorn clean up the mess in Tertium and Atoma Prime in general if he was dropped in with all of his crew/resources/gear? If not then which other Inquisitor can do it? Also how strong is he overall? Could he be a menace in something like Star Wars or whatever?

Melee psyker

>>552125785
"could San Goku save Atoma Prime?"

>>552124904
>halo device
As in, the things that invariably turn people into nightmarish indestructible monsters? I think even radical Inquisitors know to steer clear of those things, but it wouldn’t be surprising if Kharib is resorting to tech heresy to keep him pushing

>>552125785
nah he'd somehow get barreled off a ledge

>>552125295
Crate scum is already fine for melee. You just don't purely melee.
The actual problem is how boring it is to use the needler all the time, but that's just a matter of it being the best secondary, and actually building into guns being awkward without desperado and VM/VD.
If it works in havoc 40, it can't be bad.

>>552101286
What the fuck is this build, why is he using a one handed force sword for horde clear

>>552125785
Eisenhorn alone can probably do a decapitation strike once he puts his pieces together and locates Admonition’s leadership and Wolfer. He’s very resourceful and has been cut off from wider Imperial resources before and still managed to survive, it would probably take him time to put together a spy ring like Grendyl/Rannick has if he’s starting from scratch but he’ll likely manage, especially if he has his own retinue with him. Atoma is way too big for him to really effectively tard wrangle completely though.

>>552126571
it's a melee psyker build. And the sword is actually 2 handed believe it or not. The reason he's using the sword is because when the two banana-bars fill up he can release a big blue wave for lots of damage.
In short: Assail, Scriers Gaze, Empowered Psionics. EP being not great imo, better to use Disrupt Destiny to kill Crushers better.

>>552125785
>Could Eisenhorn
Dude is literally mary sue who never lost or experienced hardship in his life, he can even work together with alpha legion without being betrayed or double crossed.
Even star wars outside of fanfic called kotor 2, doesn't have anyone with plot armor that thick

>>552122401
I like stargate, and I like Atlantis (except for the part with le epic savages being overpowered superhuman melee fighters)
Can't say either has a good foundation for a videogame. Stargate setting is basically anything goes, you just come up with a new planet with a new civilization / creatures and make up a conflict. It will have no identity except humans overusing p90 and mp5 for all purposes.

>>552126873
Oh true, I didn't notice the gauge
Why the fuck does he even use the wrong mark and why the fuck can't he even use a proper combo for horde clear if he wants to use this mark, lol
Why the fuck can't he push
Holy shit this looks bad, it's so bad I thought it was a regular force sword but I couldn't identify the mark

>>552122401
I feel like Stargate has better potential as a grand strategy game. Bend the lore a bit and you'd have something cool.

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>>552126962

>>552125368
>>552125145
>the way to fix them is to make them all the same as the other boring stat buff talents
I'm not trying to shit on you for suggesting it, I agree but it's actually insane how little depth talents actually offer, it's straight up boring stat shit and nothing else is in any way or form appreciable. They should've just done a different system instead of skil trees

>>552127739
>no, I want something super special, I don't know what but it must be DEEP
Fuck off
This is video game. Literally ANYTHING can be described by numbers going up and down

>>552126963
You can never overuse the p90, fuck you!

What other blessing should i put on my arbites shotgun besides Full Bore? Im using MKVII (the one with smaller spread)

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>>552128180
Wow you're fucking retarded man. No you can't describe actually good, impactful gameplay design like pic related as "number going up and down"
>inb4 but it flips a 0 to a 1!
retarded faggot

I'm tired of stupid cunts like you defending dogshit boring stat based talent design because "you can't come up with anything better" even though we literally fucking had better. Kill yourself nigger if you're fine with dogshit then just pipe the fuck down and stop pretending you have standards

>>552129817
>I like +1 attack slop because it was in my first game ever
>I hate +1 attack slop in current game, because I got brainwashed by simpletons that it's not a good design

>>552130000
name one instance of +1 attack in darktide you stupid faggot. You tried so hard to grasp for that straw and try to turn "changes your mechanics for this sword swing" into a number buff, and it's not even fucking applicable LMAO

>>552130000
quads of truth

>>552130000
Holy quads of T R V K E

>>552130107
Sure, scum's drug box explodes after use
Scum's box stays on the ground less, but everyone who was affected keeps buff for 15seconds or whatever
Now fuck off, I'm not interested in your pathetic incel cope

>>552129812
The weakspot one or scattershot

>>552129817
Litterally all blitzs and keystones work the same way as vermintide "talents".

>>552130327
>um you know hwo the stat buff can be different durations? I can make my stat buff be a 15 second duration but it only lasts for 1 second or I can make it last 5 seconds but it lasts for 15 seconds! (btw it's completely mandatory to pick the latter because it's just better numbers wise)
>it's totally the same thing as completely modfying this sword swing to be different and swinging a different way
>PLEASE please please believe me it's the exact same, my game isn't a dogshit downgraded loveless carbon copy with worse mechanics that is currently just spam creating uninspired trash classes to sell for 12 bucks each
lmao

>>552129812
Fullbore + Deathspitter (damage and cleave incase you need to keep shooting through trash that gets in the way of hitting a special). Do not use scatter on the mk8 (tight spread). Use scatter of mk3 (duckbill).

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>>552130498
Ah yes this is totally the same

Darktide:
>You want it to give stat buff A or stat buff B bro?

VT2:
>Hello sir, would you like to create a new usecase and completely change the way this ability is used with this quick talent tree point change?

>>552129258
p90 at least makes sense because they run covert operations, need to carry a lot of ammo and fight armored enemies
mp5 is wildly misplaced though

>>552130713
This is pretty true.
I think the only outlier may be vet's shout res which actively makes the ability worse lol but even that is debatable.

>now he's samefagging after being BTFO by harsh reality
new level of pathetic

>>552129812
>Im using MKVII
just don't
arby shotgun is a mark of a shitter, mk8 even more so
take bolt pistol like a normal person

>>552130000
Kek, you're 100% right

>>552131039
>screeching samefag because someone agrees with me
Why would you show your hand like this and admit you're genuinely asshurt you're getting btfo right now?

>>552121008
doesn't this shit have like a few seconds cooldown so it virtually never activates?

>>552131039
this just makes you look even more like an angry sperg

>>552131346
coherency regen increases also shorten that delay. It's still disabled while enemies are targetting you in melee range though (they just have to be targetting you, not swinging on you or hitting you)
It's a pretty worthless stat buff outside of low density and/or pure ranged segments, where it becomes pretty ok, but still not really worth all those points invested considering you aren't really taking damage in those situations anyway, usually.

>>552129817
>we had better!
>do you want want do 1 more attack with your special sword
or
>do you want to swing your special sword sideways

Does blessing order matter?

>>552132134
n

>>552132070
>replying to shitposter

>>552130107
>name one instance of +1 attack in darktide you stupid faggot.
Fury of the Faithful
Infiltrate
Psyker shield walls

is there a particularly good map for going in solo, getting my bots killed asap, and then farming hordes? just want a couple penances.

>>552132134
No.

>>552132328
No.

>>552132370
>>552132523
No.

>>552125785
>red, green, blue and gold
Are brits colourblind

>>552132328
Rolling steel probably? It has infinite enemies.

>>552132070
that is better than anything darktide has

>>552129817
You raped and owned the shitskin with this, bravo

>>552132328
unless they patched it, there's one where you can sit on a pipe right by the intro (its the one where you drop down from the ceiling) and be untargettable except from around a corner and over the pipe
people used to use it to get the psyker scream penance back when it was like 20-60 instead of 3 mobs

>>552129817
everyone who doesn't understand your point here and tried to argue against it should be u/i perma-banned from the internet

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>say "gg guys" at the end of h29
>picrel after arriving on mourningstar

>>552133552
Yeah that's right chud, girls (male) play it too

>>552124751
DING DING DING WAKE UP HIVFAG COME AND CLAIM YOUR NEW FULL MAP

>>552133552
female+

>>552133663
hope i dont get banned for misgendering someone in this swedish videogame

>>552133552
TTD

>>552132913
>It has infinite enemies.
And a timer...

>>552133552
imagine being one of those unfortunate intersex people or people legitimately born with gender-warped brain development and playing video games
it'd be like being a black STEM grad from an Ivy and living in St. Louis

>>552133706
you're fine. Just don't say the nigger word or tell people to kill themselves

It's not new years yet for a lot of you yet, but happy new year. Love you fags, I will not say no homo.

>>552133861
haha you totally raped my white shitter and came on my face before kissing me with this post, brother

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is the MKV autogun still meta? been a century since ive used to and ive seen a considerably low amount of vets use it now, hive scum however seems really keen on using it
if its shit then what's good on vet on havoc apart from plasma and recon

>>552133552
for what its worth, a majority of female names i've played with were awful and i have them all on block. you can tell if its a man playing a woman voiced character because his name will not just be 'Sarah' or 'Lillith' or something like that. all of those just do not play the objective at all, seem to not know how to operate their keyboard or mouse properly, and get pissy at everyone else when they go down the most by far in the mission.

>>552134098
Boltgun, bolt pistol, las pistol (better than all other lasguns, next to) helbore.
Autogun isn't meta and is worthless in havoc because it's an ammo vacuum.
>but boltgun is too
No, you use it like a sniper rifle, you don't magdump

>>552134098
it's not meta, no

>>552134098
Bolt guns and recon lasguns or laspistol

>>552133861
happy new year. i clocked over to 12:00am while playing darktide. good omen for sure.

>>552134205
You use bolt pistol not boltgun then.

>>552134098
Autoguns do good damage, but aren't used because they have to dump the entire reserve they have to do ok damage, everything wrong with gunlooger in a weapon form. Basically never used by anyone other than scum outside of auric meme setups like speedcritmaxxing.

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>>552134151
>when they go down the most by far in the mission
yeah this one kept running backwards and going down constantly
been wiping my way down from 33 to 26 and now back up to 29 today, fucking love rotten armor + blight

>>552134414
Whatever you say, bait-kun.
The boltgun is taboo to discuss with you retarded autists anyway.

>>552134098
Scum have infinite ammo and no las weapons

>>552134534
Why use boltgun over bolt pistol.
>use it like a sniper rifle
So just use pistol. Dunno why you got so upset.

>>552131083
how should i build bolt pistol? last time i played it wasn't a thing yet

>>552134205
>>552134245
>>552134271
>>552134450
thanks, i did try helbore but not in havoc, maybe ill give laspistol a try, what blessings should i pick?

>>552134718
>dunno why you got so upset
this is vulnerable narcissism (post-collapse & isolation) general, are you lost?
you think anyone really wants to play this game?

>>552134907
I only use bolt pistol pre-havocs and I recommend not to bring it in havoc. I use run'n'gun and lethal proximity, which suits and is good fun for a change of pace on Arbitrator (again: non-havoc only). A more typical choice is lethal proximity with surgical. For perks just try it out in meatgrinder. Maniac + whatever you think is most useful.
>>552135080
Holy projection. The other guy is fucked but you're worse.

>>552135152
trvth hurts

>>552134907
You're responding to a contrarian bait-tard.
>>552129812
The correct blessings are Full Bore and Scattershot, on the Mk III. The other mark is really fucking bad. The Mk III cleaves entire hallways, even more so with Forceful's cleave node on the right. No, the push cleave does not work on ranged.
Full Bore because it does everything you need, including cleave, but also works against monsters, which it's very good against.
Scattershot for cleaving hordes. If you don't believe me, look at the gun's crit damage, it's insane.
If you insist on using the Mk VII, replace Scattershot with Sustained Fire, but be aware that the gun is not great.

>>552135223
>push cleave does not work on ranged
since when?

>>552130675
This is correct. Building it to dump onto monsters is colossal nonsense.
Arbitrator is good vs monsters in melee (esp if you go EO) so you waste this just to ammo dump? Same people go "dude mk3 so good vs hallways" but then think they're going to ammo vacuum into bosses too? Too much overlap and waste.

>>552135058
Dumdum, infernus blessings and the crit perk

>>552135404
Since day 1 m8. Forceful's cleave node works on ranged though.

>>552135554
huh, that's big if true
this general has been full of people recommending it because of the push node for months

>>552135404
It never did work on ranged. Check the Kuli guide.
>>552135408
The best melee weapon arbitrator has access to isn't amazing vs unyielding, and the shotgun 2-shots bulwarks and reapers. It also does very good damage against monsters.
The stun shotgun also has stun rounds. Which, if you ever used the thing, you would acknowledge as, again, one of the strongest things the class has access to.
It's the strongest gun you can possibly bring on arbitrator, because it rapes hallways and monsters in auric, and the stun is insane in havoc 40.
But you're just going to make some retarded izzat reply and probably insinuate that the meme maul is somehow better, because you're a contrarian retard.

I'll stay comfy at home for New year's eve, playing Darktide.

>>552135646
>this general
Yeah sadly you need to have a decent idea of what's what before you ask for suggestions or ideas. I do feel sorry for anyone here that's actually new or kinda shit at the game if they ask for advice. I know there's at least a few other anons here who know objectively true info and mechanics, but we're outnumbered by otherwise. If in doubt, check kuli, and more-so, check in meatgrinder yourself. Yes I know most people seem to hate meatgrinder or find it boring, but it's invaluable (bonus if you use monster-spawner cheat).

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>>552133552
>teehee oh I'm a girl btw!
bet it's an actual girl too
I had one my friendlist who just had to chime in in chat every time anyone referred to the group playing as guys or dudes.

>>552135819
>>552133552
I play gaems with girls a lot (I know them from MMOs) and they would never behave like this. I think this is troons

>>552135724
You remind me of the low-level arbitrators who are non-stop shooting the exe' shotgun and always low on ammo. Ammodumping monsters is just retarded m8, sorry. You're in melee range just for full bore and is not worth it across the board. Thankfully you never see full bore mk3s (at least in high-havocs).
>ganna take high-spread weapon with blessing that needs all pellets to hit sole target
>ok get in melee to...shoot! not melee!
Funny general.
>izzat
Pre-loaded obsession and projection. Don't even bother replying again either.

>>552136141
>retards use thing wrong therefore it's bad
Not my fault you can't rotate an apple in your head you absolute sub-human.
Good thing I won't see you in havoc 40 because you're evidently too retarded to play it.

>>552134907
puncture and whatever you want
if you have dog bleed puncture is must have for maxing out stacks

>>552136335
Nice reading comprehension. Much like your priority and logic comprehension of what tools to use in-game.

>>552136141
this is literally him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WkwWwbk0Gw
don't take kuli cocksucker seriously

>>552136442
"High havoc" is shitterspeak for "I can't reach 40" but nice try at a gotcha there, fuckface.
>what tools to use in-game
Yeah, like the dog for faraway targets, but my estimation of your IQ suggests you're a slave to Lone Wolf because you're completely fucking retarded.
Kill yourself.

>>552135223
gotcha. so the mk iii is for buffs whileb using the mk vii for sniping specialists just won't cut it huh. if i want something that can snipe specialists am i better off with the bolt pistol?

>>552136556
No, because H30-40 is basically the same. I have H40 and it's all the same, for I don't care which I play, 30, 35, 40 (arguably 40 is easier due to fewer shitters but can't be choosers at some hours).
>gotcha
There is none.
>lone wolf out of nowhere
Yeah, you're broken and chained. You've lost it and just crying. Your subconscious realising you may be in the wrong but your arrogance and weak ego won't bare it.
>>552136695
Yes, as I said from the start, if you want a "sniper", use bolt pistol. Also, only bother with this in non-havocs. Havoc you will want mk3.

>>552135152
sorry how is the general with multiple izzat mentions in the last ten posts NOT the vulnerable narcissism general? do you have filters or something?

>>552137002
If you aren't using filters and you're remotely a regular of the website (as in, 4chan as a whole, not just /vg/), I really don't know what to say.
>/(^|\W)izzat*($|\W)/i

>>552136695
Mk III is for cleaving hordes and stunning enemies. It's still worth using in havoc 40 specifically for the stun, giving you a pretty significant amount of lockdown (even at range) between that and the shield's flashbang, meaning you no longer need to rely on BTL. It's also great at cleaving gunner balconies, and if you can't afford to spend that much time clearing them out, a stun round locks them down for long enough that they stop being a major problem.
Mk VIII is theoretically for sniping, but it's not really any good at that, and the only advantage it has over the slug combat shotgun in that regard, is technically better ammo efficiency, since the special is fully restored by small ammo pickups. It's also the mark that is better at shooting armor (don't do that) and killing bosses (the difference isn't big enough to matter). If you just want to pop specials at a long distance, combat shotgun, bolt pistol or revolver are all better than it. Bolt pistol is generally the most versatile, since you can also build it for keeping Puncture DoT on bosses, on top of its innate high damage against unyielding.

>>552137136
>i don't know what to say
its typically pronounced "i concede"

>>552137680
poor little baby threatened by the idea of being filtered!

Is it actually worth it to take arbites vigilant or should you just hold onto the stacked bonuses forever by not taking it?

Does fatshark actually listen to retards like mr e or nah?

>>552137896
Depends how you build, but use it with BtL for a nice meme build. I wouldn't use it with non-BtL though.

>>552138035
He's their top guy

>>552137896
To get any mileage out of AV, you want to invest BTL all the way into the cooldown reduction, and put 3 cooldown reduction perks on your curios. That's about the highest DPS you can squeeze out of the class.
It's also unnecessary and, indeed, losing the stacks hurts. It's less problematic with dog generating stacks for you, and the stun shotgun can help get them all back quickly, but it's worth mentioning.
I usually prefer taking the entire center row for aurics, since the stun immunity is invaluable for doing objectives. Your retards will never do objectives.

obey my fat

>>552138193
Fucking grim he sounds like a game design university dropout in his latest video.

Mk VIII deletes everything i click on. It feels like cheating. How tf can it be bad?

>>552138068
Oh yeah I guess I should have specified with BTL. It never really occurred to me because it's pretty clearly designed for BTL and doesn't make much sense for the other abilities. I am at a point in my build where I am having to make tough choices and can't really cut anything else so I was wondering what people thought about it. I pretty much take it by default with BTL builds but trying to combine a dog build and BTL is leaving me starved for points.

I would've been Fatshark's top guy. I can do nothing and complain about the people who pay my bills with the best of them.

>>552138365
You don't get many shots with it, so its sustained DPS is pretty bad, and it has absolutely terrible sprint speed. It's pretty much worse than the bolt pistol in every way that matters, especially if all you care about is sniping things.
The only way it's better than the bolt pistol is if you can't aim for shit and need the minimum pellet count spread to hold your hand when shooting snipers. So I guess it's pretty good for consoletards.

>>552138362
its probably worse to be a game design university graduate if we're being real

>>552138365
It isn't 'bad' as such. What difficulty are you on? Generally, for the same role, pistols (particularly bolt) is overall better. If it's working for you for performance and fun, just keep using it. Feel free to post the weapon so we can see its stats, perks, blessings. If you want the same but better, again, I'll sound like a broken record, but: bolt pistol.
>>552138398
Yeah sadly BtL is greedy, especially forceful route. If only AV was next to Forceful and didn't have a tax node (or next to the cleave node).

>>552137896
with lone wolf absolutely, you can afford temporarily losing attack speed because you have lone wolf attack speed, and you usually have talent points to spare
with dog you most likely don't have the points to take it

>>552138035
no, they listen to bigger retards like reginald
mr e is not retarded enough for them, believe it or not

>>552138365
I used to use it in havoc briefly when I played arbie in havoc at the class launch and I always preferred it over the MkIII. I have been using the MkIII more now and I can't say I particularly prefer it. The MkVIII works for me and I never have understood why people shit on it so much. I think it's basically on the same level as the bolt pistol.

>>552138798
>bigger retards
>not mentioning Hank

>>552138531
Are you thinking in relative terms? Because to me, if something works, it works. Which is a more absolute way of thinking.
It sounds like you're saying there's no point going for A tier when S tier exists. Is that right?

>>552138798
yeah its pretty clear mr e is an orbiter
he even sounds kind of butthurt about it whenever he talks about the fatshark inner circle, tho god knows why given how retarded people get closer to the center of that shitpile

>>552138878
>Is that right?
More or less, the gun "works", but it is fundamentally useless to me in its niche, because it has atrocious run speed, so I don't see a reason to use it over the slug combat shotgun if I desperately want a special sniper bolt pistol sidegrade that has shotgun reload.
Hell, the only reason I even put up with the Mk III's poor sprint speed is because it's fucking amazing in every other way. The VIII would be low A or even high B tier for me. I need my sprint stat stick.

>>552121389
>Cheats
I expected better from you, anon.

>>552138580
>What difficulty are you on?
havoc 40. I feel like it bridges the gap between bolt pistol and mk iii shotty. Jack of both trades, master of none. Never had a problem with it.

>>552133552
That's a tranny. Actual women who play games like this rarely bring any attention to themselves, because they are smart enough to realize that "gg guys" just means "gg everyone".

>>552138315
That's mean, anon...

The next class will be Felinids. Trust the plan anyons!
>:3c

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>start of game
>
What did he mean with this?

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>>552142383
We already have felonids
>captcha: NO QT

any good force greatsword builds for psyker for high havocs? I have another psyker partner to cover buuubble

>>552142541
What do you know about the leaked files, Mr. "NOT Q"

>>552142529
Probably joined as a team and were continuing their conversation

Next class is gonna be eldar.

>>552143549
No.

>>552143941
Yes.

>new to the game
>on one of those objectives where you gotta fiddle with your auspex and do a minigame
>ogryn player is on it for 5 minutes straight
>gets off after failing to do it

great rp

>>552144196
>five minutes
What the fuck was he doing? Which game was it?

>>552144196
kek, was it the stinky tree?

>>552144196
I've never done the train one, someone always goes there first, either mod user or rando

>>552144196
I've always kinda wanted to do that, just auspex and afk on it while my team kills shit. Definitely could be some supreme griefing if the team is good and keeps things off me for a while before catching on.

>>552144548
yes lol

>>552144430
Probably the one in the nurgle tree, that one filters retards super hard for some reason.

>>552144934
No one gets stuck on a minigame for five goddamn minutes. Five minutes is an eternity in this game. I would have stepped back and let him get killed at two.

Are shotguns good in this game? I had really only used the kickback on Ogryn and have no idea they added the combat shotty and double barrel since i last played

>>552145286
The slug combat shotgun is almost on par with the bolt pistol, assuming you mainly use the special rounds, and abuse the minimum pellet mechanic to easily get snipers at a distance.
The double barrel is a piece of shit and only worth using as a cleave bleed crit meme on veteran, and something similar-ish on scum since you get infinite ammo.
The arbitrator shotgun is very strong.

How do you get good as melee scum?
Didn't had any problem as zealot and ogryn, but without serum scum just dies the second I miss attack from any asshole. Especially bad if party runs somewhere else behind my back and leaves me with 3-5 armored fags

>>552143549
We've been over this. Eldar is never ever, not because of GW fuckery, not for story reasons, but because it would require the same level of effort as ogryn and FS clearly hates having to acknowledge that ogryn exists. They would have to make an entirely new rig with new animations and new weapons only used by that one class. Compare to the current DLC classes that are 75% reused assets.

>>552146767
Learn how to block, push and dodge. Learn not to tunnel vision and not to overcommit. Learn situational and map awareness.

Gonna trap the trapper in a loving marriage

>>552146791
Go back to /tg/, carnac.

>>552146767
I use the Devil's Claw mk VII for my melee scum, and can never give it up.
Spam light attacks to victory
Parry your problems away
Bring a Needler just in case.

>>552146791
>They would have to make an entirely new rig with new animations
Eldar is a human rig with slightly longer bones, dumbass. The reason Ogryns are so different is because their animation rigs are wider than humans, and it wasn't even that far out of their way anyway because they already did the work for the ogryn enemies. That was always a bullshit cope.
>New weapons
That's something they have to do with every new class anyway, and modelling is not difficult because they don't have to be designed from scratch. GW can literally provide the same digital models they use to inform figurine moulds then tesselate, add detail and texture.

The real reason we're not getting eldar is the powerscale cope, and because eldar guns don't reload. Each one would effectively be a heat weapon with no ammo required. You couldn't justify them getting eldar grenades out of the pickups either, so they'd all have to regen. You think scum is bad with infinite ammo, if they put eldar in nobody would play anything else.

>>552148160
You are retarded.

>>552148521
I can't believe you gave up so quickly.

>>552137002
At this point I think the izzat thing is just one paranoid schizophrenic in here crying out whenever anyone gives a counterpoint to anything he says. I cannot imagine many people actually think about izzat this much

>>552148160
You're thinking too deeply about this, anon. The REAL reason Eldar aren't in the game is because they are cute and everything in this game needs to be ugly.

>>552148721
Only jeets care about izzat. White people have(or had) high trust society.

>>552148617
There's no point trying to make an actual argument when your first sentence starts with
>Eldar is a human rig with slightly longer bones
There is no reason to engage you after that point. Try harder next time if you want engagement.

>>552148721
>I cannot imagine many people actually think about izzat
It's impossible to imagine the sheer, palpable wrongness combined with con artist levels of confidence and a crippling, addicted need to be "right" and "win" an online argument, coming from a fellow white man.
Now, as for a certain culture that is infamous for acting that way...

>>552148926
well yeah the implication is that if you disagree with anything he says, you're a jeet and you're not doing it because you legitimately disagree, you only do it to defend your honor. Which to be fair is a cognitive bias that exists in many people but it's next level mentally ill to see it in literally every single discussion. Sometimes people just legitimately don't agree and it takes back and forth to figure it out. Hegelian dialectics are the way of the white man, and giving up instantly and screeching IZZAT! IZZAT! JEET! is a surefire way to make the back and forth never happen

>>552148721
I say it whenever I see two anons devolve into an hour's back and forth of ad hominems. I don't even care if they're actually indian or not, they deserve to be compared to them for that kind of shittery.

>>552148160
>That's something they have to do with every new class anyway
And notice how with all the new classes we've gotten they only have like 4-6 unique weapons (arby only got 4, 2 melee 2 ranged, scum got 6, 3 ranged, 3 melee) while otherwise they just share the rest of their arsenal with the regular human classes?

Making an eldar class would require fatshark to make at least 6 unique ranged weapon families and 6 melee weapon families (remember there can be multiple marks for weapon families) for an eldar class.
And the reason for that is because GW's autism would forbid them from reusing the human trash weapons on an eldar class. Which also makes sense because you don't see any eldar running around with scavenged human shit because their own tech is that much superior to human shit.

Because I highly doubt fatshark is gonna release a DLC class where it only has 2 ranged weapons and 2 melee weapons at DLC launch.
If they did that, every single person, rightfully, would rip them a new asshole.

>>552149074
You suffer from dunning kruger in which you think making a character taller or shorter requires wildly different animation rigging. Did you notice you can decide how tall or short human characters are? Do you think each decimal point on that scale requires a wholly new animation rig? An eldar model is just that mechanic adjusted to be slightly taller.

You can't make an actual argument because you have no actual argument. You don't understand how animation works on a technical level, and so cannot discuss it properly. That's really why you resorted to calling me retarded so quickly. Perchance.

>>552150134
Your attempt at izzat farming will not generate the responses you are hoping for. Again, try harder next time.

>>552150000
Sure, but let's not pretend it's an insurmountable amount of work, even if they are swedish. It's doable, and I expect that if they ever did it, the extra work would be reflected in the price of the class. I still consider the actual weapon mechanics and balancing to be the bigger issue, not whether or not they can model them all.

>>552150505
Anon, be real with me. Did you latch on to the izzat thing in an autism way or do you hate jeets that much that now you're being schizo about them? Before you say it, no izzat does not apply to me. I come from a non- shithole country. Fuck vishnu and kali and whatever other cowfucking gods they have. There's my not-a-jeet proof in case you were skeptical.

Me? I'm doing jizzballs farming

>>552150509
>Sure, but let's not pretend it's an insurmountable amount of work, even if they are swedish.
It is no insurmountable, Fatshark is however extremely fucking lazy and you know this too.
Nevermind that one interview/article where regarding Ogryn and all the shit surrounding him as a class, they basically say "Yeah, we are never doing this shit again".
That already is the final nail in the coffin for most classes like eldar, because Fatshark has ZERO (0) intention or care to do that.
>and I expect that if they ever did it, the extra work would be reflected in the price of the class.
Seeing that the current classes cost 12€ a piece just for the class itself. 19€ if you buy the deluxe edition.
If they priced the eldar class higher they would, most likely, make that shit like 30-40€ just for the fucking base class because they are basically kikes despite being nordic. Ie. it almost costs same as the fucking game itself.
Nobody is going to buy that garbage.

>>552149359
>>552149348
This. It’s nothing that deep.

>>552151862
>"Yeah, we are never doing this shit again"
This refers to the animation rigging though, as I already mentioned, eldar are not that different from humans in terms of animation. Ogryn are because they're wider, shoulders, arms and legs work differently. Eldar do not, they're literally just humans but taller, and I'm tired of seeing this shit touted as a reason they can't be done, that's really fucking dumb.

Yeah, they're lazy, but I'm not gonna sit here and pretend it's the principle reason it won't happen when there are actually bigger problems with putting eldar in the game than the swedish laziness meme.

Literal infinite ammo weapons no matter what your selection is, can you just imagine it? Like psyker blitzes but you don't explode when you cap out. Shuriken pistols alone would have crazy ranged cleave since GW would insist on accuracy over balance. There's just no way. We're getting random human classes pulled out of necromunda and that's it.

>>552152837
>GW would insist on accuracy over balance
Ogryn proves otherwise

>>552153167
Most people who play ogryn don't play it right. They are strong. Saw a pair of them just today turn a high intensity shock troop gauntlet into a cakewalk. I couldn't even get many kills because they just made everything explode.

Just from Imperium alone we can get
Commissar
Sister of battle
Beastman(look the same as fb ones, but good guys)
Ratlings
Vindicare assassin(enough for 4 different classes)
Sister of silence
Tech priest
Many others

Why would they force out of place shit like eldar? It's like if they forced orc party member in the vermintide

>>552154292
Vet 2
Zealot 2
Scum 2
Vet 3
Vet 4
Zealot 3
Scum 3

>>552154440
Scum is already a vet 3

>>552154651
Okay so we're at Vet 6

If an Arbitrator has the most damage in your Havoc game is it a good Arb player or are the rest of his team just shit?

>>552154804
The rest of the team is dead for most of the mission.

>>552154804
Either most of the team sucks or the arby is off killing trash, so the whole team sucks

>>552125846
Is fun!

>>552139985
Actually a good point.
>>552138552
It would? Lol

>>552126962
>never read the books
Lol

>>552137136
Sometimes I like being entertained by the resident chimps.

>>552133939
*brown shitter

could the emprah save us if we had enuff ratiums?

>>552133834
I think even if you don’t do that you can get slapped down with other stuff though

>>552125785
Eisenhorn at his peak with all of his gear and shit pretty much ass rapes all of Star Wars in a one on one barring maybe like 3-4 people, Cherubael alone is a massive OCP for most of its characters. He’s a pretty good representation of the kind of heights an Inquisitor can reach if they do their job well enough and manage to survive multiple centuries, he’s not the best 40k has to offer but he’s pretty high up there as a combatant and definitely one of the best Inquisitors we’ve seen. I’d say he can definitely at least deal with Admonition and the Moebians on Tertium, but like the other guy said going around getting rid of the Genestealers and what not is probably going to be a lengthy effort at the least. Pretty much any other Inquisitor worth their salt could do the same, Hector Rex, Tyrus, etc.

>>552152837
>This refers to the animation rigging though
No, it refered to ogryn as a whole. They even talked about map geometry and how ogry was a pain in the ass in map developement just so they could make maps so they are playable.
>>552153167
Even with ogryn the weapons he uses are believable and make sense to a degree. Like twin-linked heavy stubber, it's usually vehicle mounted because they are very heavy. Same with the kickback, it's basically just a break-action blunderbuss and very easy to operate.

For eldar it's makes no sense to use Imperial weapons like autoguns or swords at all. Their weapons are regularly already better than what Imperium uses, and on top all eldar extremely prideful and arrogant anyway, and would never stoop so low as to use a human weapon.
Especially if they still have access to their own weapons, which would have.

>>552135819
Guys and dudes are gender neutral terms. Bro is getting there.

>>552134718
>Why use boltgun over bolt pistol.
I like it. &=^)

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>>552134718
Boltgun go brrrrrrtttt

>>552161363
That is not what a boltgun sounds like

Feeling a tiny bit under the weather today. I think nurgle got me. This slight migrane and mild tiredness is definitely his calling card. How fucked in my soul bros?

>>552161745
It does if you have enough attack speed.

>>552161823
Nurglings out your ass there are no nurglings in darktide

>>552132862
It’s fan art in fairness

>>552154292
At least 4 of those are retarded ideas so not really. But regardless yes the story needs to progress before we get Xenos classes.
>>552152837
Technically Eldar are referred to as moving with a swift, mesmerizing grace in everything they do. Not sure how you would translate that to gameplay.

>>552164069
>Technically Eldar are referred to as moving with a swift, mesmerizing grace in everything they do
Scum, but they can clip through enemies when dodging and sliding. Doesn't have to be spot on, psykers don't experience perils of the warp in darktide for example, and ogryns are smarter than they should be.

>zealot
>ogryn
>stamina regen
>train mission
i leave

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>>552166768
>everything needs to be set up perfectly for me to be the main character, or I will take my ball and go home!

>>552166768
I would have won it

>>552164327
>psykers don't experience perils of the warp in darktide for example
I can't blame you for forgetting about it because it's implemented in such a dogshit boring way, but that's what peril is

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>>552167410
No anon, they don't, because many of the peril effects don't translate to satisfying gameplay.

Vice Versa would be pretty funny, imagine swapping with one of the other players and suddenly having to run their build and they yours.

>>552167295
I laughed

>>552166768
Train is doable with any team comp. You know it's going to be a bad run when someone closes the door too soon, and the point of no return is whether or not the team loses coordination on the battery objective.

>>552169242
It's still amazing to me how many people can't move and fight at the same time in my aurics.

>>552167785
I mean no shit they don't experience all of them but they do experience perils of the warp

>>552169472
Only cataclysmic blast and some of the minor psychic phenomena while in critical peril. They could stand to put a few more in for variety.

>>552169447
Lower difficulties teach you bad habits, like killing everything before moving on. That's why the train is so good. I wish there were more time limit missions, short runs where you complete a couple objectives and shit keeps spawning to pressure you to finish the level fast. Maybe instead of a clock they could give us a sort of threat scale, the longer you spend in the level, the worse things get. Why would we get anything good though?

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>no ork enemies
its sad honestly

>>552169242
I ended up getting train a few times yesterday in damnation and ended up having to do the batteries myself since everyone else just wanted to fight the never ending piss stream of enemies. As a psyker. Also the only one to do the hacking mini game, but amazingly none of the kill only teammates were around to kill the enemies trying to stop me.

>>552169447
I love doing that one hourglass map that starts with a big room followed by an elevator. By the time I'm at the elevator literally just killing everything in our way, I look back and if I'm lucky one guy followed and the rest are still in the middle of the big room fighting for their fucking lives against 20 poxwalkers, holing up and backing off towards spawn. Get to kind of just watch 2-3 of them die there every time from the elevator balcony.

>>552170530
Should have left when batteries came up. Never carry utter retards, you're only teaching them that someone will do the objectives for them so they don't have to.

>>552170702
>viewing missions as a daycare
and you're the gay little pedophile teacher trying to teach the toddlers? I just play and do my best because I'm the hero in my story

>>552170206
An easy mission would be something like you need to advance through a stronghold setting up targeting data for an artillery barrage. They want to make sure the vital areas are hit but aren't opposed to nuking everything if you fail. If you don't move fast enough through the whole mission they start the bombardment with you inside. Checkpoints would be getting the coordinates out for 3 or 4 areas, after getting the coordinates transmitted you have maybe 2 minutes to get clear of that section of the complex before bombardment.

Happy new year saar

>>552170797
I don't enjoy wasting my time, if they're not doing objectives or not covering whoever is, odds are the mission will not be completed and I'm better off cutting my losses and going back to queue.

>>552170861
>staying ahead of bombardment
Sure is a shame the devs are swedish, that would be perfect for an alternate run of No Man's Land.

>>552171110
I do always wonder if the retards killing random shit during the big fan event in hourglass would ever get around to grabbing the batteries if I just sat back and watched.

>>552171389
Nope. Saw a vet yesterday that refused to jump down during that section, instead took infantry las potshots from the above platform half the time. The other half the time he was dealing with disablers that spawned up there with him. Ended up being my first vote kick I've initiated in a long time.

>>552171110
>wasting my time
How is it a waste of time? I know I can solo the objective if I try hard while my team diddles around, why is it a negative if I challenge myself and successfuly do it? It's fun

By your own logic you leave every mission the moment you notice you're carrying. Do you even play? That'd mean you're leaving like almost every mission then lmao

>>552171389
Did that once, they were completely unable to locate the battery in the ground level shack on the left. They legitimately didn't know how to get to it, they never found the door, they all died and I quit. I'll admit, I was feeling pretty petty that day, I'm not proud of it but I won't take it back either.

>get on to play with friends yesterday for the first time since being sick in bed for like a week
>First mission, I get the penance for not taking any melee damage as Veteran

Feels good man. Praise the Omnissiah

>>552171701
I don't mind carrying if they're putting some kind of effort in to progress the level. They could play like absolute ass and I'll stick it out because at least they're trying. Guys who play to just kill enemies without even bothering to focus that on covering people doing objectives don't deserve the effort.

>>552172403
I sure hope you're talking out of your ass about hypotheticals because that's no way to live.

>>552172789
It's quite a thing for someone on /coopg/ to defend players who refuse to cooperate in a game.

>>552173117
You should know by now that /coopg/ hates other people.

>>552173394
I'm a slow learner

>>552172403
I can only repeat that I don't think you actually adhere to these ideals because you'd be leaving literally 9 out of 10 games. Why even play the game at that point? horrid way to spend your time

>>552171696
>Ended up being my first vote kick I've initiated in a long time
Did the vote pass? I find that whenever I try to get someone kicked (as with you, something I only do very rarely), there's always one other person in the group who is either equally retarded or overly benevolent, so the vote doesn't pass. Drives me up the wall and often only serves to make the player who was up for removal hostile to the team.

>>552173825
Only reason it passed was that they finally jumped down when the fan stopped, but dicked around on the ground while the rest of us were waiting in the elevator for some time while flamers and a bomber kept spawning.

Post THAT file. You know the one.

>>552173804
You misunderstand. 9 out of 10 games, at least one or two players put in effort and that's enough for me to stick around. It's very rare that all three players are the exact retard that causes me to quit, and I do mean retarded, like dawdling at the start of the level, running off to scour every nook and cranny for crafting materials to the exclusion of all else, killing trash on the other side of the room when the rest of us are being passed around by mutants like white girls at a frat party. Getting three of these types in a game is like one in a hundred.
>lol just carry them
Fuck. No.

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>>552174681
No, not that one.

what hours is it now
i was awake overnight and playing this, and these hours, maybe everyone's drunk because new years eve, but i have not won a single game even bumping the difficulty down. these fucking actual mouthbreathers. is it europeans or american?

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>>552174379

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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>552174681
We live in a world where 40k never got skaven because GW didn't want fantasy in space, but squats were brought back when nobody asked.

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>>552174927

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>>552174773
this one?

Quick question on scriers gaze with a meme melee build. I haven't used it much but I get the gist that you want to stay in scriers gaze as long as possible so you can keep stacking buffs and killing enemies to reduce your peril build up. Looking at some builds people post it looks like many of them don't take by crack of bone, which would reduce peril with melee kills and lower peril generation afterwards. Just asking for clarification, is this so that you can keep your peril up to maximize your other perks like warp splitting/warp rider/one with the warp that scale with higher peril rather than focusing on scriers gaze duration?

>>552176747
The CD on the ability is so low you hardly need to manage it.
Just press F and start swinging.

>>552176447
lol so it americans playing right now. that check out. they never have any clue on what to do fighting many at once.
>inb4 izzat reply

>>552177053
Learn English.

>>552174927
The game has seperate servers for each region, it's not a matter of timezones. People only really swap matchmaking servers for havoc at offhours and even then it's kinda painful to play with ping so it's rare to see

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>mfw discovering Voice of Command
good lord
this shit is intense now

>>552176908
Ah groovy, thank you kindly. Just wanted something besides flame fart spam to play with for a bit, and I can use the ranged slot to raise some masteries while I slash.

>>552174681
>>552176174
>>552176736
post all your cacarats

>>552177160
>I dont like what he think so he must be esl
you only have one reply right?

>>552176736
No offense ratfag, but I was hoping to fish something a little more random than a ritualposter with my post. It's not you, it's me.

>>552178176
Cacarats?
More like shitmice!

Ogryn crits should deal double damage

>>552177910
WE AINT DONE YET
NO DYING TIL I SAY SO

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>>552178176

>>552177910
Now add ability cooldown to your curios.

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cacadia = forced meme
haha look at him go = authentic humor

>>552178763
Rat Morrow is needed

>>552178467
If the devs had soul this would already be in the game.
It'd actually make crit builds something you would consider making.

>>552178467
Ogryn melee crits should suppress enemies around themselves. Except for maniacs because they're not in their right minds.

>>552176908
One last question, I have a choice between a 17% toughness curio or a +3 stamina one. With all of my toughness regen would I be better served with more stamina to run/dash/push/etc or more toughness to give myself more wiggle room?

>>552178467
>ogres are often portrayed as drunken brawler god types who somehow manage to ultra crit their way to victory
>realistically and stylistically a big ol club should do a lot more damage if you knock someones head with it

>1.05x headshot multiplier
>minus 5% crit chance
>1.05x crit damage multiplier

Why? I am convinced it's because Fatshark gaslighted themselves into doing this because they called the combined stat "Finesse" and they thought an ogryn shouldn't have that.

>>552179916
Always toughness, you can never have enough.

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>>>/vm/2161195
Are you guys sending agents to infiltrate our comfy hole in the wall general

>>552120817
How would that even work? Aren’t the main characters in Star Trek pacifists? How do they defend themselves anyway?

>>552180758
no but I am now

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>>552180758
idk but youre pic is making me horny

>if it's howlin', it's growlin'!
NO ONE knows what he meant by this

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>>552180195
Sounds good.

>>552182290
it's prowlin, not growlin. he says there is a dog, as is evident by the sounds a dog makes. In essence: If it quacks like a duck, there is a duck. This may seem obvious to you, but this is an advanced deduction for him

>>552176747
I always take it. The only reason not to (that I can think of) would be as a tradeoff because you want to make a hybrid melee/soulfire build.

>>552178763
Crazy that there isn't one with a guard helmet.

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A little medicae might help...

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I'm one step away from using psyker and spending the entire run on my safe space bubble because I fucking hate gunners

>>552183418
Ogryn-coded post.

>>552183418
or just be cool and run Force sword bulletdeflectionmaxxed

Got my first toon to level 30. I like Psyker a lot but I think I'm going to play Zealot next because that relic ability seems OP

>>552126962
Retard

>>552178467
I think ogryn should have a %health damage node so more of his builds scale well into havoc without destroying heresy again.