New Year editionPrevious thread: >>55201952>Official site:warthunder.com/>Fan created content:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old, better wiki:old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old forums archive:pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ (embed)>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivers:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weghk_2DpfAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tQ6JzPWEFUhttp://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQhttp://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc>Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsmGiyODPuMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJJ94NwH_ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAN_Mo2d74http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbKcAdLoWDkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfNbDZw5J8>Guided weapons statistics:docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78>What tanks have thermals and their generations:thunderview.net/thermals/>Someone sending you runes?:translate.yandex.com/ocr>Player, game mode, and vehicle stats:statshark.net/>War Thunder Partner Decals & Decorations (Free Stuff)wtpb.net/ (formerly https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fV6e_mRz1dfRBTlGEzoIsyRSPK-DBKJp1XnWXwfWz8g/edit#gid=90634345)Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETyFTpf_ugA
Gentglemeng, how do we fix ARB?
Looks about right
>>5521523462016 is only 7 hours away
>>552152539I don't get what's taking them so long in fixing HEAT
>enemy xm800t on top of scoreboard>hunt him down
happy 2026 guise!
catch my present
let's kick off 2026 with a reminder
>finally get a vehicle>already have itAAAANNNNTOOOONNNMY LAST THREE VEHICLE DROPS HAVE BEEN STUFF I ALREADY HAVEWHY DO YOU HATE ME SO MUCH
>>552153545jellllyy
Nobody told me the Alpha jet would be so fucking peak as cas
>>552149517Shit it's true, was wondering why I couldn't land normally.
13.0 tanks when
I am legally obligated to wish you gweilos a happy new gregorian year
*celebrates with gutter oil dog and rat stew
BROS HELP ME DECIDEI play the big 3What to buy that isn't from thoseChristian 2, challenger DS, Al Khalid or merkava mk3? Best of these trees to grind for variety and most fun tank?
New Year’s Eve alone again award Got no friends to celebrate with award Lack of energy despite sleeping 9 hours award
>>552154554You were probably better off getting the ZTZ96A(P) than the Khalid.
>>552154550LOOOOL
Why not Turm3?
>>552155068celebrate with me in [LowIQ] anon.what's your ign?
>>552155068Sometimes less is more when it comes to sleep oversleeping can make you feel more tired>>552155080Someone here said that the Khalid is under tiered?
>>552155231I already own it besides I said I don't want stuff from the big 3 I'm up to 9 in all of them, looking for a grinder for one of the other trees, idk which tree or tank to go for tho, rn leaning towards Christian II just because of the chad as fuck name + it's an op Leo
>>552154554chally ds and merkava
I boughted turm 3 as a new player. It made the game much more enjoyable to play; i almost quitted because 6.7 is fucking aids due to how slow the tanks are especially after the engine nerf.
>>552155451Leo2a4 is a good tank, but soviets are overbuffed as fuck at it's br right now+you can buy mi28 for a setup later +attack viggen is a viable cas even in this spaaggot burdened world
Happy new years /wtg/Also nullpo if you're reading this I love your art
Remember to download skins!
11.3-11.7 GRB is my happy place
How is the new GRIPEN?
>>552156637I don't understand this, every match should be highway of death simulator
>play chinkbrams>have funcrazy how good the abrams is if you don't have a subhuman team actively gimping you. it gets put against the us pretty often too so retards shoot you in the strongest part of the turret
>six more hours to go>another two up, likely>home by 3am, probably>0 / 80 000 needfulNew Year grindan's going to be so much 'fun'...
>>552158617disgusting image, fuck off loser
stuck playing this niggerslop in new year's award
is the turm 3 still worth getting?
goonerslop gachatroon award
>>552159056play the leo 2a6 you cunt
>>552159432eventually
>>552159056if you wanna have fun at the BR range, sure?
>>552159502nah, got the leo a1a1 and tam already there and now a jaguar 2 i'm goodwanna get the f-18c early for america eventually though, i really like sparrow P
>>552152926Fix what?
>>552158491Can't wait for stats to drop tomorrow, gonna be a nice new years present.>it gets put against the us pretty often too so retards shoot you in the strongest part of the turretit's hilarious when they fall for their own "abrams has no armor" bullshit
>>552159673all HEAT warheads have been broken since the last patch, there's a high chance for them to cause no spall at all
>>552156347>you NEED more bloat on your drive!Nah.
>>552159918Is this verifiable somehow, or are you just making shit up as usual?
>>552159056it's one of the most handheld premiumsthe best 8.3 now that the Obj 140 is gone
>>552159987>I like being poor
>>552160196There's complaints on the forum, a bugreport and my own experience with my ATGMs doing jackshit.
>>552160375>the best 8.3 now That'd be the T58
Do they ever make old event/BP vehicles available again? I don't have access to the marketplace and there is a ton of unique stuff I'm missing out on.
disappointing statcard for one of gaijin's eliteeven more disappointed by the profile icon
>>552161049>old event vehicles SL boxes))))))))))
>>552161197>disappointed by the profile iconIt's one of the three of the most based ones though.
>>552161197How the fuck can you not be positive in T-55AM-1
>>552161834It's not a very good vehicle (right now)
>>552161049The lower BR ones tend to show up again in new battlepasses, with a box that randomly gives you one out of three potential ones. The top rewards for level 75 are locked to the marketplace. I could see them adding them to other crates eventually, but that hasn't happened yet.
Is the RDF/LT a different enough experience from the HSTV/L to make it worth buying?
did I do good?
>>552162245no
T-62M-1 superiority.
Did they nerf the fuck out of the BMPTs armor? Shit like DM23 has been going straight through my UFP all morning
>>552162335good goy award achieved.
there's something based about faggots littering top tier skies with guided bombsseeing retards waste missiles on them is heartwarming
>>552162952as the faggot who try to lob guide bomb into the bases and have them intercepted piss me offthis is why I always lobbed all missile into one single base as redundancy
>>552162414goodgo fuck yourself
>>552162414>he fell for the overpowered rusmutt premium vehicle on release
>>552161197>one of gaijin's eliteForum mods have even less to do with Gaijin than technical moderators.I also remember this guy being kicked for underperforming from a squadronbattles squadron I used to be in.
Thank god I unlocked the tech tree version.
>>552162335You're going to eat shit against FOX-3s while not having any on your own.
Whats the next big thing going to be after we finally get 5th generation aircraft? I'm hoping for aircraft carriers, submarines or maybe more modern large ships with ballistic missiles or some shit.
>>552164035War Thunder 2, because fuck fleshing out anything before 5th gen.
>>552164035>shitpsGod I fucking hope not
>>552164035something retarded like AWACS aircraft or jamming
>>552164302>something retarded like AWACS aircraft or jammingChina dominates both
>>552163352cry more faggot>>552163401No I researched the one in the TT with the T-90 hull I'm just evil
>>552164035aren't they going all in on infantry
>>552161479
>>552164579A close fourth but nothing beats anime girls.
>>552164638that's not anime, that's fake 3D slop made by gaijin
>>552164549That shit will die in record time and they will have to hurry out a ww2 update for it so the Enlisted autists can keep it alive.
>>552165054just like navaland helicopters before thatand tanks before that...
>>552165285Are you saying Naval isn't dead?
>>552165285what is this retard on
>>552165285>2 out of 3 are deadNigga you just proved his point
>>552165285stop making sense, THIS time the new mode will die for sure because... it just will ok!??!?! (ignore it has even more potential mass appeal than even tanks ever did)
>>552162335Good luck against the fox 3 slinger premium at .3 BR higher you'll face 90% of matches.
>>552165478ignore the case that enlisted died and they have to piggybank of a successful game to shill their dogshit fpsreminds me of another game who tried this before, elite dangerous
>there is one mig-25 dragging out the game at the end of the matchthis is just griefing at least ju288 are trying to bomb the base
>>552164035(anti)-Radar missiles.>sauceI can't remember where but some devblog/QA talked about (anti)-radar missiles added to planes.>what is anti-radar missilemissile that passively homes into radar emission source>can't you turn radar off?If you don't see it coming you don't get a warning, and in CAS terms it's very useful to pinpoint SAMS in a hurry
>>552165767Eh how are there MiG-25 in matches before the 3nd?
>>552158617Based image, stay king
>>552166013I really have no idea but I literally just see one in my match being fucking retard I thought some timezone get it early?
>>552165807I vaguely remember them talking about those along side with submarines, I think it was a Q&A
>>552165707Enshillsted died because of the retarded grind (even worse than WT; the overt vehicle/weapon grind might be a bit faster but you need to deck out each and every soldier individually) and because it feels like a Unity asset flip with how hilariously low effort everything, and in particular the animations, are. Doesn't help it's a new IP that had to be marketed from scratch rather than a part of the single biggest vehicular simulation game out there, or that the maps' smallness puts BF6 to shame.
>>552166013CCs get it early for a review.
>>552166234No.Enlisted died because of the nigger-tier squad system that didn't let me play the class/gun I wanted.
>>552164035They're going to flesh out the trees and earlier ranks.lollmao
>>552166013CC partnership.Saw a couple YT nugus flying the blin day one on the anniversary too.
>>552166234>single biggest vehicular simulation game out therewe're not talking about tanki online
>>552155261stop posting and get to grinding.
>>552166234you fucking retard enlisted uses the same engine as war thunder, war thunder infantry will be a 1:1 of enlisted just with modern shit for now, it'll even use the same fucking squad system to make sub 0.2KD retards feel good about killing bots. And thats not mentioning FPV drones being free kills
>>552166382That too. The fact that WT infantry is so gun-centric and the soldiers within a squad are basically exactly identical, together with the much more straightforward stock grind instead of the autistic inventory micro management, means they learned at least some of their lessons.>>552166876It's based on Active Matter, not Enlisted, that's why it doesn't feel like it was made on the budget of a pack of gum and a shoestring. If you've played the CBT or at least watched some videos you'd know.
Play Japan.
>>552167097>dead end factionnah
btw if you see a Yakovlev plane without an intake in frontdo not engage at low attitude
That's a lot of stars for today>334 minutes
>>552159056I have it and I find myself playing it more than anything else.It's like having a French tank but in Germany.
>>552167157>F-15JM>F-35J>GCP>Type 10 48t>Type 10 APS/RCWS>Chu-MPMAnd much moreNo.
>>552168159>literally stuff that isn't even in the gameDeadEndNation
>>552167195i don't get it
>>552168287most based 65% winrate nation
>>55216848165% ain't shit compared to GB and France's kek
>>552167097I do just because im thai and i want to play thai tanks
Used to average 90-120 fps on max now I'm struggling to break 60 what's going on?
Russia chads, I kneel. After playing finally playing russia with the t80 sales, I can safely say that russians have the worst team mates. Their only saving grace is that they have the most handheld tanks.
>>552168701i hax u
>>552168812pls stahp
>>552168907aright sending back your fps nowcheck your email, it might be in your junk folder
>>552168991hey thanks anon :)you're a swell guy
based matchmaker
So is there any better hornet than the one we get now?is there some kind of Late Super Hornet?
>>552169529Yeah, F/A-18F: Going Hunting edition. Turns every match into a scripted on-rails section and plays the game for you.
>>552169529noif you haven't noticed, the only things better than we currently have are 5th gen stealth aircrafts
hmm today i will use the Harrier GR.3 as CAShmm i will bring SNEBshmmm i will turn black every single module on a Tunguska but not kill himhmmm this bullshit will repeat itself with a 2s38 and a Strela
>>552168624>no Type 76>no BTR-3E>no BTR-3RK>no TIFCS>no M903I won't even mention the Type 69, VN1, VN16 and VT-4 :(
>>552170034all of these are coming, do not worry.
At some point they're going to add letter decals right? 500 GE each, goes up to 1000 specifically for the letter Z.
>paki t84
>>552170479>ai slop made me laughit's over
>>552170479>>552164452
>>552170479kek
ever since gaijin """accidentally""" made a loading screen mocking the challenger disaster i knew they were based as fuck
>>552164035Fucking nothing that's why gayjew are DESPERETLY trying to find new cash cow in for on Aces of Thunder/Cubic Odyssey/Active Matter/WT infantry Aces of Thunder is funniest shit ever, they announced it as VR/joystick only to back down it in saying it will be playble on monitor with mousejoy
is ajax any good?is the 40mm better than bush shitter?
>>552171398Just WATCH as they port over the WWI planes to WT in a few years.
>>552160447HEAT was always an anemic lottery, I honestly can't tell the difference.
>>552161834Slow as shit, slow reload, no thermals, godawful dart along with the usual Soviet depression.
>>552171805yes by far
>>552168727Not even remotely true. Worst teammate award easily always goes to Germany.
>>552172703Post the M103 .webm
>>552173396That shit can penetrate anything, so no surprise there. I know because for some reason a 35mm disabled my 279's turret ring once.
The Eurofighter is honestly ridiculous in Sim.>friendly markers in the HMD>360-degree RWR and MAW>radar-based MAW (alerts of even burnt-out missiles)>excellent radar with NCTR (which actually works in the cockpit, unlike for instance the Gripen which doesn't display the target type anywhere on the MFDs/HUD)>infinite countermeasures (not as many as some other planes on paper but they ALL fire single-file)>stupendous kinematic AND dogfighting performance>the AESA one can do the notching while guiding own missiles trick>paired with the Rafale in most of the lobbiesFeels like playing RB while everyone else is playing Sim.
>>552171805>is ajax any good?No>is the 40mm better than bush shitter?Yes
>>552169529There is still the Block III, notably would get IRST, possibly munition pods, MAWS, enhanced engine, CFTs, a high tech cockpit, and maybe reduced RCS. Most of the upgrades are not relevant to WT because its shit like more advanced targeting computers and better mission computers.
>>552173890>CFTsNot that you're forced to take them but there's virtually zero reason to add a shitton of unjettisonable weight and drag to your plane in this game so that's just as irrelevant as>more advanced targeting computers and better mission computers
>>552169529it can get a loadout of 4 AAMs with 4x longer range than fakours
>>552173890actually shouldn't super hornet get gunslinger?
it's uphttps://youtu.be/A9NMT2vjJkE
im kinda sick of c-5dont US get anything better?
>>552167012And active matter is based on enlisted doofus
>>552173580I was told the SM2 was dominating in SIM, was that wrong?
>>552171805Yes and it'll be even better once the devs wake up, add it's missing spall liners, fix the bugged sight zoom and fuck off the BMPT further up to 11.0
>>552174673C-7 and the 120D
>/wtg/ insisting enlisted died>it's more alive than huge swathes of ARB and the entirety of naval
>>552174673c7 and dboth of which are just as dogshit as the ones currently in the game
>>552174912It's excellent but the things that don't matter in ARB (no real HMD display, bad RWR angles, no MAW, only 96 CMs) kinda let it down compared to the EFT/Rafale. When I see one on my RWR, it's far less worrying than another Eurofighter.
>>552174673>dont US get anything better?Meteor has been seen in f-22 and f-35 weapons bays but I doubt we will get them because No Dokument)))
>>552175128I don't believe you
>>552175191Ah, that makes sense. I never bothered with SIM, but it's still interesting to hear what does and doesn't do well there.
>>552174673Super hornet suppose to get AIM-174 gunslingerwhile F-22/35 get Meteor
>>552175128If true I assume it's only because it's more condensed in terms of playerbase (aka no retard niggermonkeys circlejerking at low tiers) making it seem more alive in comparison.
>>552175365meteor literally doesn't fit inside the f22 and it was a huge compromise to give four to the f35 which btw has 5cm of clearance
why did the french make a SAM that can only look 35 degrees up, fucking retards
USA will also eventually get this and it should have all the schnazzy new stuff like a HLG motorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-260_JATM
the lengths mutts will go just to make a shittier pl-17 equivalent will never not be funnyspotted with pl-21 too btw
Can someone explain how ground-to-air radar detection works? >When I'm sitting in NASAM 3 I can see a heli flying about 200m above ground but not see it on my radar until ~6km >When in Buk-m3 I see it as soon as it spawnsWhat causes this? Both radars have more than enough detection range to cover entire map? Is the true detection radius proportional to max radius?
>>552176797>pl-17Inferior to Meteor in every way. Chinkazoids have been trying to put a ramjet (like Meteor has) on pl-17 and pl-21 for ten years with no success. The chinese brain cannot invent, only steal.
>>552176885The CLAWS/NASAMS radar is underperforming, there's an accepted bug report about it.
>>552176369To protect (read: hide) it from air strikes that got past the screen.
when will the superpowers get a mode with nuclear warhead missilesi want to dodge 3km wide explosions
>>552176885NASAMS radar is obsolete junk salvaged from WW2 boats and was never meant to track single planes, far less slow moving helicopters.
>>552176953gweilo... pl-15 alone has double the range of the memeteor
>a basic dual pulse has double the range of an advanced ramjet>here's a 1px pic to prove the PacketLoss-21 existsWhatever you say chang.
>>552177382Literally delusional, China has no air-breathing missiles except its cruise missiles (which everyone has.) Meteor is the only ramjet missile and outranges the entire chink arsenal. And if we want to talk about pure internal-propellant missiles, r-37M also outranges everything in the chink arsenal as well by over 50%.
This subhuman is trying to make me believe the nation that has historically copied everything apparently is making tech that's superior to the nation they're copying from?
>>552177382if ramjets are so shit, why did you post this image that proves you wrong? If it was shit the chinks wouldn't waste resources when they already have a superior propulsion system
>>552177570>Meteor is the only ramjet missileENTER
>>552177747I mean that very thing famously already happened with Japan and China
>>552177382>>552176797implessive
>>552177747Both Japan and Chinks sent their "consultants" to inspect USA factories for all sort of things from electronics to washing machines, and then started mass producing those very same products, few decades later both of them had surpassed USA in all fields.
I'm malding
complete AAM rape and dominance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9NMT2vjJkEMiG-25PiDor review just dropped.
is there any way to select the 30mm seperately on the turms? it keeps raping my vision whenever using it
>peedaroskiepidors are oinking everywhere that the retarded high speed retention buff the flankers got that was obviously a mistake got reverted lol
it was real in xis head
Buy an ad.
speaking of rammiesF-2 with 5th gen radar and AAM-4TDR when
>Vanya pretending he didn't have a melty over some forumchad stating the obvious yesterday
You're the only one always melting over some forum bullshit 24/7/365 here, thoughbeit.
>>552174673AMRAAMs were artificially nerfed compared to IRL like every other non-poccnn missile in-game. Anton swears shit like the PL-12 is accurate though ))))
>no u!!!!!
>still hasn't posted a single example of any "oinking" over the high speed revert
LMAO
This is what sealclubbing premiums in 13.7's like grippy, su27sm, su34, f2 looks like
my evidence was you oinking yesterday claiming the buff was totally not actually real and it was actually heckin underperforming shortly before it got reverted
chimping starting up again around the same time it did yesterdaycurious
That's not "oinking everywhere that the retarded high speed retention buff the flankers got that was obviously a mistake got reverted"
>>552177536>>552177570as per saab's own admission while advertising the gripen e, the memeteor has 120km of rangepl-15e (monkey model export without dual pulse) has 145km of range (the distance two of the rafales got shot down from btw)pl-15 has around 280km of rangepl-17 has 400km of rangeaim-174 is a sm-6 naval missile stripped from its booster and rigged to a super hornet to match the pl-17's range>oh but ramjetcope in the memeteor to make it break the 100km barrier
>>552179534Reply to me too >>552177779
>>552179534Entire post happened only in your delusions, meteor is classified but as an air-breathing missile it is far beyond the range of all chinksect AAMs. Turns out when 70% of your propellant comes from the air around you (thanks to advanced western technology!) it's easy to outrange inferior copied chinksect missiles.
Chink missiles have 0 miles of range as they don't even work and will fall off the rails harmlessly. There's a reason china is militarily owned and raped by a tiny island with 21 million people on it (only 4.9 million of whom are fighting aged men): western military technology is decades ahead.
just check reddit we know you love posting there
>>552179534implessive
The burden of proof lies on the one making the claims.
>burden of proof fallacyI accept your concession.
>>552179534PL-21 is going to have 1000km of rangeperfect for a millenia of chinese dominance
>>552179687in what world does it prove me wrong?>>552179736https://www.saab.com/products/meteor>range: 100kmcope
>>552180580>europoor's best missile has such short rangeChina's domination remains undisputed
>>552180580>in what world does it prove me wrong?you basically said ramjets are shit, so why are chinks making a new missile with a ramjet
>>552181120specify where i said those words
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>552180580SAAB doesn't make the meteor, and it says 100+ km, because the real range is classified
>>552180108>2nd largest economy in the world simply CANNOT have better tech than... 24th?>why? i dunno lol
Why do people say Terminator is OP?>gets penned up close from all angles>from far lacks any weapon to deal damage in timely fashion, requiring enemy to expose themselves at least 10s (certain death several times over with conventional tank weapons)
>>552181901so true mishapeederplease have this APFSDS buff and fuck off to 11.7
>>552181379nah saab only codeveloped it and became the first company to trial and mount it on a production aircraft, which casually is their own. they totally don't know what they're talking about no sir.
even on new year's eve, blue niggers are fucking atrocious pig-brained retards while red niggers are hyper-autist ultra instinct turboniggers
>>552182182and you said "100km" instead of "100+ km" which is what the website says, why?
>merely mentioning the superiority of chinese technology causes a seethe wave among europoorsthe french in particular should act with caution
>>552182447beause the manufacturer says 120kmhttps://www.saab.com/markets/india/gripen-for-india/gripen-for-india/what-metor-capability-means-for-india>"Meteor BVRAAM (Beyond Visual Range Air to Air Missile) provides an operational range of up to 120kms">memeteor for indialmao they really want to lose again
>>552181901the median K/D of the playerbase is 0.7, learning weakspots is the same as rocket science to these people
>>552183663120km is the NEZ
>>552183663>jeets falling for euro shit againthey will literally never learn
>drop two 50kg bombs on KVnigger>direct hit on his front hull/fender>only damaged tracks and barrel>drop one more bomb directly on center of him>"critical hit" but didn't kill, only damaged engine (checked after game in hit analysis, bomb just decided to detonate where the turret might have been, but wasn't, so just in empty air)>aim to drop final killer bomb>magical chink low-cal SPAA hit detonates whole plane (he ignored 3 other planes flying slow and in open air around him)so much for "just kill 5 heavy niggers" daily chore
The time of rats will be over in 2026
>>552183821it literally says 120km of operational range
would you like to enable voice chat
>>552184780>Pooshit5you're indian?
>>552184780
>>552184580Nigga kv is the worst tank to kill with bombs because it's side armor and rear are same as front with roof being thicker than tiger 2 are you retarded
>>552184874Whiter than you hrukrainian pidor!
>Yak-141 made the naval line into the protoshit lineCalled it.
>>552184780Imagine watching Zophich
>>552185282sorry, you have a jeetshit5, you are posting from the slums
>>552185524I don't use it i post from my pc
>>552185741>fucking seeds on the deskholy pidorbird
>>552185809Chirp
>>552185357haha get fucked Germany, no F-35 for youEven the yet-to-be-released Korean tree will have one firstFeel bad for the bongs though that they're stuck with the B version since their As probably wont be appearing until after Germany's first one is built
Not related to War Thunder
>>552185357>R-27EAit's just worse than r-77-1
>>552182476>gattsuisn't that nigga a literal homosexual?lmao
>>552185809Special military operation
>>552186148pidormonkies already have the 2nd best ARH but they JUST NEED MORE OK!?!?
>>552186148Against AFK retards maybe.
>>552186267idk what scenario you think r-27EA will hit someone that r-77-1 won't. r-77-1 goes further in a straight line and pulls far far more AOA
>>552186242We need also R37m (best arh in the world)
>>552186202>4000 levels into the 3 level special operation to defeat the bad piggies
>>552185918Bongs can get an Australian F-35A
>>552186371>r-77-1 goes further in a straight lineYeah and loses a shitton of speed the moment it has to turn, something the R-27E family doesn't suffer from. It's nowhere near base R-77 bad but it's still got mismodeled grid fins.
>>552185918we got Tempest on the way, thirdiepipe down
Fag-35 gameplay will be utter shit, not to different to current top tier though tbf
>>552186571would you rather have the hypergimped AMRAAMs that just suck at everything instead?
>>552186639>longest range missiles against actually sentient enemies due to the very low drag>suck at everything
>>552186574m8, britain is going to get its F-35As long before Tempest is even in the airThey haven't even finished the tech demonstrator for it yet, let alone built a prototype
>>552171805every single one i've seen i've deleted without even realizing in my terminatorit's my most killed tank almost beating the frog jaguar
>>552186639Works on my Eurofighter.
>>552186575>Fag-35 gameplay will be utter shitIf it were implemented realistically it would be absolutely impossible to fight.Frontally, impossible for the most advanced shortwave radars to lock until around 30KM (22KM for f-22, and this is in good conditions)And if you somehow lock it, enjoy being jammed by the highest intensity and most advanced AESA that exists.
>>552177247they should add these to arb after you get something like 10 kills and you need to fire it at the enemy's airfield
>>552186754yes they do suck, why is mutt missiles being the worst not enough for you? Why do you need to gaslight everyone into thinking they're also hecking OPerino too?the ranges where the amraam hitting 0.1s faster even matters is the ranges that every missile gets notched anyway
>>552187106>get 8 kills and land>you can now select a nuclear AAM from loadouts>fire it at enemies or shoot it into their airfield for a autowinthat would be fun therefore it won't happen
The Turm III and M60 AOS should not be the same BR
>>552187071>highest intensity and most advanced AESA that existsBelka? What does it have to do with fag35?
>>552187071>implying they wouldn't add magical Russian EW pods that according to official Russian state media sources can easily jam an entire Arleigh burke with one pass
>>552187240i was thinking more like the EC's and 10year anniv resupply thing>get 10 kills>fly to an air point somewhere in the map (dynamic spawn so it's neither ez or impossible to reach)>plane with exactly 1 nuclear missile spawns in there (or somewhere else in the map everyone will know like the middle of the map, etc)>has to reach arming distance if its a nuclear missle to fire it over the enemy AF>has to get over the enemy AF if its a prop or if the nuke carrier is a bomber instead of a missilegaijin give me a call whenever you want im free every day
>>552185357>>552186878Shocked that Turkey wont be a subtree for Israel alongside Greece
>>552186754sentient enemies will just go sideways at those ranges anyway so what does it matter retard
>>552187650There's a middle ground between "so good will defeat every single fox 3 headed his way" and "braindead W holder flying in a perfectly straight line toward a base".
>>552187071>the highest intensity and most advanced AESA that exists.that would be the ECRS Mk.2 bongs are getting for Eurofighter. They built it specifically to do what their F-35's radar does, but better
>>552185357>Su-47>tech treeNot a fucking chance.
>>552187898yeah and the ranges where that difference matters, better pull is much more necessary, or has the Rafag being the best for a year taught you literally nothing?do you even play top tier?
>>552188163The MICA is the best because of its uniquely notch-resistant seeker, the agility is just a bonus.
>>552187297You mean hiviny? They should've been added long ago with su24/su30/su34
>>552187898it's very easy to notch every missile flung at you from 40km, which is the only range where the amraam makes any perceptible difference >>552188301it's a combination of the seeker, extremely good pull allowing you to fire from the defensive, and fastest time to impact up closebeing able to fire from a more defensive posture than your enemy is critical at top tier, and it's what makes the MICA so good and the AMRAAM so poor, the amraam carrier always has to turn their plane in more to fire a counter shot compared to every other missile, you either don't play top tier or play it extremely poorly if you don't get this desu
>>552188157Yeah, just like the Yak-141. Oh wait...
>>552188157$150 prem only)))
>>552186878get rid of national trees altogether, research tanks by lineage instead, and play tanks by the relevant historical alliances
>>552186878>sudden waffling on where the Korea's are going to go>Greece and Turkey to be belligerent against each other>a new precedent is being clearly established against the Taiwan conundrum if both are accurate>infantry and submarines>a complete fundamental tech tree rework>a leak that looks almost like...chinkna and time niggers are gonna FREAK
Vehicles for this feel?
>>552188825>ww2 and post-war content separatedThat would be quite literally final nail in WW2s coffin and nobody would ever play it again.
post em
>Su-30SM2 spawns 300kph faster than everything else why?
>push and pull fokker spawns 3000kph faster than everything elsewhy?
>>552188615And yet the MiG-25 is not in the tech tree.
>>552189383>Lazur-M, MiG-23ML, F-4S, F-104S TAF, F-4J(UK), F-4EJ ADTW spawn faster with heavy loads than anything else in the tech tree, despite the fact the tech tree planes are carrying no load and minimum fuel.Funny that!
>>552189225
Play the Phantom.
>>552189035>WW2 gets a capstone top tier, a hard stopping point before modernSHIT, no more nigger vehicles from the future fucking up the balance royal, a thing that has been demanded since the very moment the PT-76 was first slopped into existence and recognized as the slippery slope it was>a complete absence of consideration for how to thread in HEAT-FSlop and downtiered MBTs because of their now complete absence from the equation overall means decompression+rebalancing is finally viable, another thing that is off-and-on demanded for actual years>THIS IS GONNA KILL WW2 BRO EVERYONE'S JUST GONNA RUSH PAST IT TO PLAY TOPSLOP BRO NOBODY HAS EVER WANTED TO PLAY WW2 TANKS WITHOUT GETTING NIGGED ON BRO NOBODY WHO WOULD EVER SLUM WITH ENDWAR HEAVIES NOW THAT THEY'RE UNUPTIERABLE TOP DOG BRO IT'S SO OVERabject modernslopper delusion or maliciously bargaining false opinion, call it
>>552189710Because it's an unplayably bad piece of shit gimmick vehicle, the devs explained it months before it even released. The Yak-141 and Su-47 (and MiG-1.44 too) are all perfectly viable, if unconventional, combat platforms if fitted with weapons. Also, without them, the Russian tree would only really have the Su-27, MiG-29 and Su-57 airframes throughout the entirety of top tier, just in different modifications, so it makes sense to have them in the TT.
>>552190154>monthsYears actually
It is my god given right to lolpen heavyniggers with my ikv 103
>>552185357>naval berkutwhat the fuck is even that fuckshit
>>552190475>t. surstromming sucking swiggerbeast
>>552190665retarded krokmonkey napkinwaffe
>>552190665It won't be a naval Berkut, it'll be a normal land-based Berkut in the naval (now reclassified as protoshit) line.
>>552184973well nigger, i'm getting direct hits on the top of him but game decides it doesn't count
>new profile picture is another literal who soviet pilotkek
>>552190475in cargo port map you can squeeze under container trailers and ambush enemies from there
weeb power
I was hoping for Yak-130 :(
>armorlol
>>552190154The Su-47 is even more of a gimmick than the MiG-25. It's supermaneuverable yet it has no gun, at least the MiGs gimmick allowes it to run away.>Also, without them, the Russian tree would only really have the same three airframes throughout the entirety of top tier, just in different modificationsYou mean just like the other 8 tech trees? The Su-47 wouldn't even be anywhere near the top tier.
Sweden is the most powerful country in the world
Bros, I've mastered the Pidornator>find chokepoint>park in position looking at it (no need to be meta)>wait>first red appears>shoot all missiles at it (no need to be penny pinching, just let them be freee)>target hopefully dies>1:1 kd secured>enemy likely saw what happened and is expecting me to hold the angle>instead yolo in guns blazing >entire enemy team pops out to shoot me>just_as_planned.jpg>bluefriends jump in to try to steal kills>all reads get blindsided, too busy shooting me (I don't smoke) to notice anything>???>win
>>552190971Leo wouldn't be able to do that because if that depression nerf lmao
>>552191612it also rips itself apart at transonic speed at low altitude like the MiG-25
>submarinesYeah that'll save naval mode
xi bros...
>>552192028>reacting exactly how chinks do in war thunderI believe it
>>552192028probably ghost of kyiv tier fanfic but funny if true
>>552192025unironically if they ever add submarines I'll be paypiggying so hard my bank is going to declare me legally insane.
>>552192028How is "poor thing, poor thing" written in Chink runes?I want to post it in chat when I shoot down bugs in their paypig Su-30
>>552192198more real than the AI generated F-35 shootdowns this thread believed
>>552192028>YOU TINY TAIWANkek, they really cant help it
>>552192028>>552192198oh, there is a videoXhina...
>>552192198one can wish chink is fanfic
holy shit, xm800t strong
>>552185357FakeOnly the VK leaks are real now.
what are the pratical differences between su30sm2 and su35?also will chinks get su35s?
>>552194203Su-35 is a little heavier and has MAW and no canards
A lot of stuff that shouldn't be viable or shouldn't be as good as it is in a normal PvP game works in War Thunder because the mediocre players are so subpar compared to what someone with a brain can do that a normal match might as well be classified as a PvPvE game.
>>552194358are canards really that important when you have tvc engines?
>>552190665one reason for the su-47 having forward swept wings is for naval takeoff and landing
Every 14.3 jet except the F-18E should be 15.0
>>552194528no
>>552194605(F/A-18E should be 15.3)
I didn't realize the Matilda Hedgehog was Australian
>>552193628pretty sure you can even .50 the Turm III at close range
so like could anything else come in the naval line or is there no reason to ever touch this over the normal Rafale
>>552194528Yes because the Su-27 is one of the uglies pieces of shit to ever fly only comparable to bongistani bullshit and the canards at least make it look tolerable enough.
>>552194876It will get the same plane but with better missiles and a (late) suffix.
>>552194876Luxembourgish Su-47
why are there so many more pantsirs?
where f-22 and f-35 go
>>552195672>f-35Which one?
>>552190029>THIS IS GONNA KILL WW2 BRO EVERYONE'S JUST GONNA RUSH PAST IT TO PLAY TOPSLOP BROyes you coping nigger, the average player is gonna choose cold war over ww2 dogshit 90% of the timeJust like nobody gives a shit about ww2 props anymore or new ww2 ground additions.
>>552195808the good one
>>552195672f-22 should go after the f-15it's a single engine non naval fighter
>>552195886But f-16 has single engine
>>552195672F-35A after F-16F-35B after AV-8BF-35C after F/A-18E
>>552195886double engine*
>get shot in the engine>lose turret traverseMan I love playing the Abrams
>>552195672F-22 after the F-16F-35A after the F-15F-35B after the AV-8B+F-35C after the F/A-18E
>>552195672Left to right>F-22>F-35A>F-35C>F-35B>And aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way to the right goes the F-35I
>NOOOOOOO IF THEY ADD A WWII QUEUE MY TIMETRAVELING SWEGROID AUTOLOADERS WILL HAVE TO FIGHT TIME-ACCURATE OPPONENTS SAVE ME SNAIL
>>552195816>t. dogshit time travel modernslopper paypig bearing direct, sole, complete responsibility for WW2 Flightit's your fault and you're gonna be raped for it and SUDDENLY WW2 BRs will experience a renaissance BY PURE COHENCIDENCE
As always I hope you have a wonderful day
>>552196182>F-22 after the F-16>F-35A after the F-15RETARD ALERT
>>552194594that sounds like a really good ideaafter they actually got normal SUs to work
wtf happens in this lines now
>>552196192>>552196447Oh no there's two of you, why the fuck would the heavy land based air force fighter go after the light single engine fighter? F-15 to F-22 is the most obvious thing since F-4E to F-15A. (which I also had to argue with some dipshit over, probably one of you.)
>>552196447F-22 and F-16 are both used as interceptors by the USAF/USANG
>>552196586MiG-29KRSu-47 (allegedly)MiG-29M2MiG-35
>>552196632And what are the F-15C and EX used for?
>>552196886Defending Israel
>>552196586MiG-29 line should have the MiG-29M and MiG-35 already but gaijin really does not like fulcrumsYak-141 line should (logically) end with the MiG-29K but clearly not
>bump up the BR to 10.7>make it so they can actually be ammo-racked if you shoot the turret like 20 times>pidornators STILL fucking pressing w and driving right into the spawn and winning with minimal effortI don't think I've seen a single vehicle warp not only full downtiers to it's bracket, but full uptiers as wellthe entire fucking 9.7-11.7 BR range is completely controlled by these fucking things
Crashed...for good luck!
Spading the F-15E is the most painful fucking thing on the planet
>>552196620I didn't think about it that hard, buddy, calm down.
its time CET bros
>pidornator has its ammo belts surrounded by thinly armored box things>shoot it with 35mm aphe>it detonates on these>shrapnel travels DOWN into the crew through these boxes>a light spray of 35mm below the guns murders it from the frontIm bringing the XM246 with my abrams now
Future receding, regrets mounting.
>>552197458It really isn't.
>>552197651Happy new yearMe 210 with 40mm bofors and nebelwerfer launchers when
>>552195816>I dont like it so no one doessmall brained low IQ zero theory of mind kind of post
>>552198362You try spading a jet with shit missiles and a shit radar that has to fight Rafales, AESA Eurofighters and SM2s that can forever notch and launch at you
are these type 74s?
>>552200298yes
>>552200398kino tanks need to get to grinding the jp tree a bit
>>552197909incoming hotfix soon cumrade!
>>552200736They are pretty coolShame it has mediocre top speed and terrible reverse
>>552172909Don't got.
>>552192028
>to battle>no one can spawn>tickets empty out within 2 minutes>to battle>all vehicles red and need to be repaired>9 minute crew lockhappy new years
>>552201930it keeps happeningdid the turn of the year kill the servers?
I hope Anton got a pipebomb for christmas.I hope the BMPT gets moved up to fucking 12.0 so I don't have to fucking see it anymore in my 10.7 games.
>>552170125Is there a version that isn't for ants?
oooh fuck right off
>>552181901Because most of the playerbase is 86IQ. They assume because it's an autocannon vehicle, they monkey-see, monkey-do, shoot center mass into the ufp and then cry and shitpost.
>>552201269The STB-1 had a better reverse gear + autoloader but Gaijin will never add it as they already fucked it up once.
>>552201269Unless you play Type 74G, the KINO
>>552202380mobilefag retard
>>552184780S novim godom!Z
4 Years
it's actually so cathartic killing the pidornator with the XM246 holy shit
i fucking love the fuji, so fun
Japan has a very strong 9.3 lineup I'm just finding out>Three Type 74s>Thai M60 and Stingray>Type 93 >Type 89 (this thing is really good)>Type 87 RCV (don't play this)>Two Type 16s >Alpha Jet>A helicopter (don't play this either)
why does the terminator ERA just absorb shells completely? like dead on side shot
>>552203802spall liner
>>552203802anti-raycism shield cumrade!mighty pidornator can eat M774 for breakfast even from side!HATO tank too weak and flaccid to pen mighty armor
>>552203802Behind the ERA is a bunch of volumetric, spall liners, and trolly modules
MiG-25 confirmed DOA.
>>552203907>>552203949it's not even going through the ERA man, it just disapears and blacks it out
>>552203998>The interceptor with no guns and a radar that doesn't filter out ground clutter doesn't fit into the meta where everyone flies on the deckWow
>>552204218Well it does have MTI but it's automatic thus unreliable.
>>552203657World War II stuff is pretty miserable but Japan is probably the most fun ground tree in the game above 8.0. Someone who is good at air can probably enlighten us on that tree, although I've heard the Zero is good because everyone playing air is retarded.
>>552204372and only like below 1600m
>>552202471>aims for the turret
>>552205004i always figured cheeks is the universal weak spot for both IS that shit is my bane in the tiger 2 hate the fucking shit that case shoulda went lfp i guess...
>>552195317truck stopgummy bears1800 miles in one day
just came back from watching fireworks out of my window for 5 minutes
Any USSR player who fucking dares to try and say their faggot tree 'suffers' needs to be beaten to death with a brick from now on.Pidornator is literally the most disgustingly broken vehicle ever released, and to top it off, they secretly buffed the T-80s to have a 6 second reload now tooThese worms are gluttons who would not be satisfied with anything less than total pidor powerfantasy fulfillment.
>>552192517i second this
>>552202471>this is what the tiger ii's br is balanced aroundjfc
>>552203745It is really one of the best lineups in the game, and will become even stronger when we get the upgraded thai m60 with extra armor and 2nd gen thermals, along with a CAS with standoff weaponryThere's also other goodies like the B78 IFV and 105GSR
>>552205147weakspots are always conditionalany vehicle cresting over a hill like that is going to be shooting the lower front plate with very little exception
>>552205435>There's also other goodies like the B78 IFV and 105GSRTrvst thv Plvn
>>552165707>>552166234Enlisted died because Gaijin is not able to make a game that is somehow not going to be parasitic to their other games, even if they are different genres.Gaijin wants to monopolize as much of their players time in just one of their games. They do it through login bonuses, grinding, boosters, rewards, and the occasional good match. So this just leads to players who play just one of their games, seldom playing their other games because they literally cannot commit to more than just one of their games long term.Enlisted competes with War Thunder, who competes with Elite Dangerous, who competes with Active Matter, which competes with Cross Out, which competes Aces of Thunder, which competes with Modern Warships, which competes with Aces of Thunder. So only their most popular product wins out, being War Thunder. The only exception to this is War Thunder Mobile which only survives because it shares the same login bonus system with War Thunder.If they simply allowed for cross play benefits in their games and where more respectful of player time in their game design, they would have more successes than just War Thunder.
>>552205147LFP is almost always the best spot to shoot on an IS (unless you're using the US 75 or something with AP). Flat plate means lowest chance to hit something overlapping, kills all the crew anyways as the transmission's in the back.
>>552205942>elite dangerous>active matter >cross out>aces of thunderwhat teh fuckdo those even existnever seen anything of those, not even a still pic
>>552205352same, but I went outside
>>552202471>>552205004he's a retard who took a terrible shot, but why is it that mysteriously all Soviet and American shot traps basically never ever work- instead producing shatters basically every time- and the archetypal German ones like the curved Panther mantlet only work when used against players that aren't bad and immediately volumeme all shots as soon as you try the cheeky dowwnard deflect shot yourself against a sub-50%let?
Is there a vehicle like the Fox, but with a cannon like the 40CTC from the Jaguar/Ajax? I really want a small rat car with a punchy autocannon.
>>552206794Shot traps aren't really reliable on any vehicle, but there's some US and Soviet ones where it doesn't work any worse than on the Panther D/A, like the Jumbo or KV-220. The IS-1/2 just doesn't really have a hull roof to bounce a shell into, and the turret face curve has too big a radius.
I4w?
>>552207590Hold w to win
when
just got to very high tier planes how to evade AIM-7?
>>552207009
WEWEWthe turm is an absolute niggerkart. b2b nukes, 3.5/kd after 20 games even though ive been drinking the entire day
>>552207009Sika tracer or Lancer tracer is your best bet
>>552208935From what I just googled it seems like they didn't get past very rough, conceptual sketches
>operation timed out
>>552209319i remember seeing pics showing it got way past just sketches
what is the secret to doing anything in bluewater naval
>>552210516leaving immediately if you see you are in any form of uptier
>>552210516Heavy sedation
>>552203802that's what relikt was designed to doand even if it pens, the spall liner absorbs the rest
pick your poison anon>stock grind the SM2or>making actual progress in the event task
wtf is pic related then if not an optical tracker?
>>552205942How does War Thunder compete with Elite Dangerous? They aren't even in the same genre.
>BR raised to 10.7>'nerfed' so it's ammo actually functions like ammo and can cause an explosion(only after you destroy like 100000000 rounds of it though)and yet pidornators are STILL just parking right outside of spawns like 2 minutes into the game and getting nukeslike genuinely, GENUINELY, what the fuck is gaijin's problem?has there ever been a vehicle released that is this utterly fucking broken?
>Another ARB match instantly lost because 3/4ths of my team just went in a random direction and never reacted to anything>Most of these are premiums>People paid money to "play" like thisI would like living human beings for my teammates, please.
>The Yamato is the best Battlehship of al- ACK!!!!
>>552214372The T58 is still more busted. Other than that here's a couple examples off the top of my head:IS-6 with extra plate behind optics at 7.0Jumbo at 4.7Object 906 at 7.0AH-1Z for like a year after its releaseKV-220 at 5.7Harrier GR.1XM-800TJust like those the BMPT will eventually get changed to an average performing vehicle
I am struggling but slowly we are getting there
>turdminator being OP gets called out by anyone>bbbbbbut muh T-58 bbbbuteverysingletime
>check fag in pidornators stats>all his top played are like 1.2-1.5kd, MAYBE 2.0 at the very best(usually in a strong premium)>check pidornator stats>3.0+ kd>60%+ wr
>>552215250Weird that people keep citing these sorts of things but never post proof, so feel free to provide it in future examples.
>vehicle is named terminator>act surprised when it terminates shitterswow like pottery
>>552216059cringe ass name
>>552216059>terminates shittersExcept it's terminating everyone, not just bad players.It's also letting shitters think they are good in their krok fueled pidor powerfantasy
>test drive T-72 peedernator>press W>"peedor?">"yees peedorwhat a bizarre nation
>Clouds, ravines, trees, and entire mountains never seem to break radar lock when I'm being tracked>Meanwhile my lock always shits its pants and fails even on a target flying in the middle of a clear skyok
>>552212562I did both aesa euro and sm2 in sim and they were pretty decent experiences, just find a guy from the other team to killtrade with, you get like 100k rp if the game goes 2h+
>lose battle by 1 kill because of the one guy who spawned his reserve tier shitmobile and drove into the enemy spawn 30 seconds before the end
I haven't used 105mm HEAT since the CCVL and now that I've unlocked the M10 I've received a painful reminder.
>non of my matches today are endingQuality I am sure gaijin will extend my star time for this amazing bug.
>>552214372There's been plenty of cases, the R3 and the German Sherman for instance. Either you're a Russian bias shitter, or just a newfag.
>>552217856I've only been playing since 2022, either way, the BMPT is fucking niggertier tank.Don't forget they also buffed the T-80's reload speed to 6 seconds too.Anyone who cries 'russhiya suffers' after this shit needs to kill themselves
>>552218021T80U-D is a fucking warcrime right now
>>552218705the entire russoid premium lineup is a warcrimedon't forget the turdminator was the same BR as the fucking AJAXXD
>buy the artillery gun sale pack last second because I fucking love tier V Italy >figure I should start trying to get good with tanks again >starting from reserve I bring out the L6/40>I do pretty well but then I get to a cap and realize I can shoot forever >hold the cap for the rest of the game with an endless stream of 20mm HVAPI DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT
don't play EU servers early in the morning on new years
>>552220941Is that fucking Ruinberg?
happy new years guys
>>552218021Nobody really cries rasha suffers though. The only crying is from shitters who only play one nation.
>AAB gives basically no rewards>ARB is a hunk of shit that hasn't fit the game for years>ASB is more a fight with the shitty rendering system than anythingI really wish this game had anything remotely approaching a competitor
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I love Italy, but I just don't know if I would really use this thing unless it also slaps at top tier. How effective is it with the proxy shells at anti air duty?
You're not white if you use these.
>>552223040Bait vision activated.
I'm sure one of you retards have more universals than this
>Russian pilot >literally named PIDOR PILOTKEKYPOW
>>552223340where is the bait
>>552223509Are you stupid or merely pretending?
are realistic battles any fun? i have a decent amount of tanks (all the german rank 1 tanks except the pz.38 f and the sd.kfz 6/2)
What does the autocontrol of engine do?>>552223509Now we know the name of the instructor.
>>552224789Controls radiators and such.
Hope you guys are wishing a happy new year in your games
>stealth 5th gens released>almost everybody brings external missileskek
>>552223049Proxy shells slap at AA duty, and it depends what you mean by top tier. At 7.7 it's good, but only because you can boink fags with the rangefinder+HE combo. It is very map specific, I'd say.
>>552225621Got chat banned recently for saying fags should be killed.
>>552225196Is it not a separate thing? It seems control completely independently from what the autocontrol is set to.
>>552226091Don't kill yourself anon.
>north spawn abandoned factory>ALT+F4
>>552224376Smells like a butthurt Baltic chihuahua.
>>552190665You know the finger magic trick image? This belongs in the unreleased third panel where the blood starts spurting from the joint...
>>552226363Stupid, then.
>>552225697>f-22 released>it carried AIM-174 in stealthed podsits over..
>>552220284Fun fact, there was a flamethrower version of this thing.
>>552228285>Add like two flame vehicles and then never touch the concept again>Napalm is basically exclusively a base bombing thingWhat was even the point of that update
>>552228285There are a ton of interwar-1941 Italian vehicles they need to add to their tech tree.
Is the Soviet P-47 god? I got a 50% discount on it but it's still a 1000 gold birds
>>552229709>tfw gaijin will add spaghetti cars instead of late war StuG IIIG's for germany and sweden
>>552229492preparation for jets as killstreaks in warthunder infantry
>>552229791I meando you like the P-47? Because it's just a P-47
>>552229791all p-47s suck badly in airin ground its ok
>>552230161>>552230203Ight I think I'll save my birds for a ground vehicle discount
>>552229930>tfw
Explain to me why a bomb under the body means I can't put rockets on the wings, gaijin
>>552231638There is only one button for ordinance in the cockpit so you only get to choose one thing to wire it for, the rocket pylons are nigger rigged to fire sequentially after every button press
>>552230520why are pussiyans like this in war thunder
>>552232093and yet if you load different rockets you can switch between themand I guarantee this is the case for plenty of other planes, they just haven't had some faggot autist claim an obscure technical manual says you can't do it
>Not paying attention to my missile count>Lock a dude and shoot at them>Missile makes no noise nor does it drop off my plane. Didn't notice it just vanishing.>Try again thinking I'm doing something wrong>Randomly get a kill confirm text>Apparently I shoved like 5 missiles up their assThis fucking game, man.
>>552230520>>552232318
>>552230203They are good in air if you ride them like a bus. You come in at an angle "sideclimb" fucking hate that fucking loaded term btw. If you position yourself kind of behind the enemy line after the "sideclimb" you just want to dive and line up as many enemy planes between yourself and your final destination and just truck through going like 600-700 kph and shooting at everything in your path. If your targets break off don't follow them. Then you ascend and repeat. The only reason why this works is because you can just hold the button down on the machine guns no need for good aim here. I do much the same thing with the F6Fs.You can make the P47s and the F6Fs work really well in air RB but like 50 percent of the time the game will be half dead before you can get the necessary altitude or you will find yourself lacking opportunity.BTW did they do something to repair costs? I'm like making no money since the update.
>>552234715>BTW did they do something to repair costs? I'm like making no money since the update.Too many people bought premium on sale shitter. They're ruining the economy now. Can't be too generous, you know.
play miggers
What a bombastic way to end the year.
>>552234937Yesterday I played like 15 games and only earned 70k today I started playing and after 2 games I only earned 4k. This is fucking nuts rn I'm getting no SL whilst before the holidays I was raking in dough.
Happy New Year fellow east coasters, I love you guys
happy new year east coast chads
west coat is the best
Happy new year!
>>552235062Different vehicles have different SL bonuses. You also have to win the game to get a bonus to your gainz.
>>552236707>either coast>bestlolIf Russia nuked both it would genuinely improve the world.
>violence out of no wherethat's not very new years spirit of you, anon
should i be a naughty little bitch and buy the dutch and swede leo2s even though i don't need either
>>552241367This would make you stupid not naughty.
>>552226363>random unprompted seething about the Balticsholy shit it's a real life peedarooskie
>>552239571>have to win your game to get a bonus to your gainzwait, really?
>>552241598Yes. Just one of many reason most long time players avoid U*A like a plague
IFW?
I actually have better result playing mig29 than hornetI guess having 2 near guarantee kill missile is better have having 6 pretty good but not that good one?
Burger winrate mentioned! kindaposting charty!
>>552242491someone just posted one yesterday that had US wr at like, 48%
How is Su-33 compare to Su-30?
>>552242721fuck I meant Su-33 and Su-27
>>552242721which Su-30, because the Su-30MK2/MKK are different to the Su-30MKM/SM or SM2
>>552242721It's Su-27K, base 27 with navalized (FAT) frame.
>>552242829the Su-33 is heavier and has canards but in general because it's heavier the overall flight performance is worse and it has half the countermeasures but it has an extra pair of missiles and the RWR is MUCH better so the overall package is a side grade
Actually just Su-33 compare to other Su at its BRso the 27, maybe the premiums 13.3 one
>germans play like the sneakiest jew rats
>>552167157Why tf nah
>Germans have to play cobbled-together scrap>everyone else gets to play with prototypes that never worked and tanks made years after the war endedYou'd play like a rat too
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>>552243602Just because the germans pushed them into service doesn't mean that their retarded prototypes actually worked. The russians would have a WW2 T-64 if their standards were as low as the german's.
is this a spot someone can get to legitimately on Sinai?in over 6600+ matches I have never ONCE seen anyone go up hereI wouldn't even have known he was up here either had he not killed mehis vehicle was like halfway stuck in some rocks when I scouted him on my drone>>552244137>russians>standardskek
>>552244178Russian Standard's delicious.
>know full well that boxer will sell well>kinda want it cause ajax suckwhat do I do?
Say what you want but grinding Z is so much more relaxing that any other nation because I can be 99% sure the burgers are going to be in the red team.
happy 2026 /wtg/I made a video :)https://streamable.com/vfgzt2
No thanks.
>>552246089you will have a nigger filled 2026
happy new yearexcept you Larold. fuck you Larold
>>552245940>non-alcoholic
>>552246308who the fuck is larold?
is 10km fox-3 shot basically dead sentences?how do you dodge it?pulling hard into a notch at that range is just asking to get shot by another one and now you cant notch both missiles
>>552245940gaijin fix red top when
>>552246508ligma balls.
>>552246519If you're going sub mach you probably have enough maneuverability to pull a notch unless you're in some turbo shitplane like a phantom
>>552246486nuh uh>>552246582never
>>552246519>>552246696And if you find yourself in such a situation don't forget to shoot your own fox3 before going in to a notch because otherwise the enemy will just keep flying towards you and ends up on your 6
why do sometime radar stuck in certain mode?like I want to change the mode and cant
>>552246976sticky keys?
They made /wtg/ kneel.
>>552245940Was a fun nuclear option game today Also happy new year /wtg/
>>552247637I kneel.
>>552245940>>552247809You two have been here the greater part of a decade.why don't you just get married
>>552242473>4 apds shells are good enough to insta gib MBTs from sidepretty good anti air
>>552247809yeah it was pretty fun to make a shitter ragequit
>>552188825Should I have ever doubted Anton's great plan?
Should've aimed gooder i guess
>>552250502deserved
IT'S UP>IT'S UPIT'S UPhttps://youtu.be/S8A3MEuqFoA
what is the best 12.0 burger CAS plane?Im planning to buy both click bait and kate when they go next sales for maximum SL event grinding
>>552252474Historically accurate.
>>552252541What happened to ghyst yf queef 1 through 26?
The F-2A ADTW being 13.0 with 7Ms while China gets an SU-30 with PL-12s, an HMD, and +2 missiles at 13.3 is certainly a balancing decision.
are chink missiles unmultipatheable?
i have a dream that warthunder is actually a gacha gameyou just grind daily, weeklies battlepass for gold birdthen you roll on gacha for new latest vehicles
Anti-tank guided missile useable in most scenarios? Just got it for vt5
>>552254584What the fuck are you on about
War Thunder IS a gacha game.
No — War Thunder is not a gacha game.Here’s why: What War Thunder actually isIt’s a vehicular combat MMO focused on military aircraft, tanks, and naval ships.You unlock vehicles primarily through research and gameplay progression.There are premium vehicles and cosmetics that can be bought directly with real money, but that’s optional. What a gacha game isA gacha game typically involves:Randomized rewards from pulls (like in a capsule machine)You spend currency (often purchased) to get a chance-based itemCollecting characters/items primarily through luckWhy War Thunder isn’t gacha You don’t pull randomized items You unlock specific vehicles you choose to work toward Premium content is purchased directly, not randomly obtainedWhere War Thunder has randomnessThere is some RNG in the game — e.g.:RNG in battle outcomesReward drops (like decals, boosters) can be semi-randomBut that’s not the core progression system, unlike gacha games.Conclusion:War Thunder is a progression-based military MMO, not a gacha game.
>>552253420Yeah i love the F-2 as a plane and i bought it, but i fully knew it would be utterly unplayable for the longest time, we need at least 2 rounds of BR decompression to achieve its natural state. This applies to everything 12.7 and 13.0 tho, but the R27ER carrier suffer less (still suffer tho) compared to things like the F-2Also i miss xher everu day
>>552255030based chatgpt user fighting against brandolini's law
>>552255030Namaste
>>552253420They didn't add the F-2 sooner because it's muh 4++++++++ gen and that would be OP and shiiiiiet. Fast forward when the update drops and the F-2 is not even top tier anymore lmaoHopefully we will get an F-2 with all one-off protoshit test equipment and still-not-integrated Shimadzu HMD
>high altitude map>climb>sling fakours>they still miss at last second)))))))))I thought more altitude is always better
F-15E or F-18E?
>>552255548the F-15E is mid, the F/A-18E is horrendous
Poor guy, tornado is truly one of the worst jets
>peak chink hours>fakours stop hitting altogether
Why do chinks and burgers always leave after first death?
a bit of extra sim before bed, did kinda poorly, oh wellhappi new year anons
>>552188825If true, does this mean that Russia is getting Norks because Chimpna screwed themselves out of subtrees?
fucking niggersdid every shitter wake up knowing how to notch in 2026? jesus christ not a single fakours hit in 5 matches, what the fuck is going on
>have the worst luck with the 10(5) kill wagers because the whole team steals kills so I'm permanently stuck at 4 every match>always get best squad because I hard carry and hold/take caps anyway>okay fuck it I'll activate a best squad wager>first match>only person in my team not assigned a retarded blue nigger squadmateI'm going to scream.
>>552208541Notch but also vertically with spins
>>552257836>redditmanback to work, normie
it's so fucking over
>>552257950I got my firework and never looked back on that stupid ass mode, but there are definitely people who sweat way too fucking hard in it and that's probably all 7 people left playing.
>>552257950>mode ends at 6:00>rewards lasts until 6:30holy fucking jews
>>552257950I tried that mode onceand I dont care enough for dumb ass firework to play that mode more than once
30 mins left the saleslast chance to get that pack you always wanted
>>552258638Is there a pack that enables me to nuke gaijin offices when they're all present?
>>552257950kek, there's literally a single lobby now so if the matchmaker cucks you out, you have to wait for a chance when the match ends
>>552258685yesyou have to buy every premium packs firstthen the final nuke pack will show up
>>552257950If you find a lone enemy and get them first, stay there and let them score too, one battle i found a red bro we both farmed over 10 points with this way together, fuck blue pests.
>>552257950locked the FUCK in and got like 12 hits in a matchnow hopefully I don't get cucked by the matchmaker for the last two
>>552258638Do i really want it?I already got a mirage f1c, but it's shite
>>552258638They removed the TURMS pack and didn't even put it on sale
Why does it take so long to get a match going?There's more than 100 people on each server looking for match
Ight.Gimme another coupon doe.
WE DID IT /wtg/ddit
>>552258794noits cool but mirage grinding is way comfier
>>552259227How the fuck?I fucking hate it
>>552257473>chinks cuck themselves out of a Nork subtree>it gets given to Russia instead who's been buying their shit>Taiwan gets redistributed to Japan too under a new 'no direct enemies in the same tree' rulethe chinkout would be so bad they would have to be banned from global at that point, no point in not going all the way
>>552259227F5 is giganigger turn fighter in a turn fighter BRMirage is a SARHless fat retard in a SARH slinging BR, how is it comfy?
>>552258638I wasnt going to get itbut I like the german one and I guess I could do it againalso shitaly doesnt have 8.3 for whatever reason
>>552259476too kino to be true
>>552259521it just is ok?
2026 the year russia is demolished
>>552259476Republic of what?
If leopard 2A6MC2 was added to the new canadian tech tree what br would it be? Top top tier?
>>552259576>no M46>no TT PzH>no TT M60A1>no service M47sItaly suffers, not to mention another dozen cuman vehicles missing.
>>552183663So meteor is just a faster AIM-120D?
>>552261370No, it's in a completely different class of Fox 3. The 120D is just the normal 120 with more range, there's nothing special about it at all whereas the Meteor uses an entirely different propulsion system altogether.
>>552263414what are the functional differences?
is BMPT balance yet now that you can disable its guns?
more camos for the Hungarian Mi-24 when
>>552263782My god what the fuck
>>552263564>disable its guns>shoot one>the other one bores off your gun barrel>can't do anything while its APDS penetrates your turret ring according to kroknigger REALISTIK ))))))) SIMULATION ))))))))
>>552263526The Meteor's engine is much more fuel-efficient, so it burns for much longer and the missile goes much farther and faster. The downside is that that fuel-efficient engine can't work at low speeds, but it has a small conventional rocket booster to get it up to speed if the launch speed is too low.
>try to play 12.0 planes>nothing but 12.7 or 13.0 games>try to play 10.0 plane>Nothing but 11.0 games>try to play 11.3 plane>facing nothing but the exact same 12.0 planes that I tried to play?????
>try to do a cas run in my trusty su25 with afghan livery>chink heli freak sitting in the treeline pops out and shoots a missile >i die>check out the replay>he first spawned in the heli with a2a missileswhat the fuck man? since when is this shit allowed?
I be like man do I spend my money on this $5 games on steam salesthen dropped $200 on premiums
>he admits to being the biggest pidor goy alive
>wagers
so the nig 25 is actually good
>>552264756Has always been possible. Best way to grind chink helis too. Used to be hilarious back when the Harrier GR.7 was the best top tier CAS, as the Starstreaks on the AH Mk.1 Apache count as A2A armament but can kill ground vehicles, so you could first spawn that and get the SP for the jet with it, allowing you to play GRB without ever spawning a ground vehicle. Still works, but the AH Mk.1 is obviously somewhat outclassed by now.
>>552265568catch my AIM-7F
>>552265568It's unplayably bad, you have literally no means, not even theoretical ones, of killing someone if they aren't terminally retarded.
>>552266001But the players are terminally retarded.
>>552265568you are good at dragging out the game
>>552266001>>552266367kek
>>552266367Except when they aren't.
>>552259521comfy for sim (the only good game mode)
Hello /wtg/ happy new year faggots
>>552267323fuck you
the fuck is taking so long?
>>552268125
Jeffrey Epstein rape niggers
>>552268125They fucked up matchmaking
>>552268125Too many people to fit into one lobby.
>>552268125are you playing toptier slav?
Did they change something about belly landings in jets? The game just instantly kills me hitting the runway and I can still see my intact plane sliding along.
>>552269746your landing gear?
>>552269746what direction are you trying to land in?you have to go the opposite way you're taking off
>>552269746they definitely nerf itI think you are are higher than certain speedthe moment you touch the ground you will just die
When do I know when my glide bombs are safe to drop and will hit? There's no indication of range of any kind at all anywhere.
>>552270373wouldnt you like to know
>>552270373>When doHow do*
>>552269746If only there was some kind of mechanism made to solve this problem. Some kind of... gear to assist in landing.
>1st day of the gweilo new year>already seething over superior Chinese playersChina owns the game
>>552270373ancestral blood memory>>552269746In some planes your pilot clips into the ground when bellylanding, that can kill you. No clue if anything was changed though.
>>552270584Ok Gweilo.
1st day of gweilo new year and you are already avatarfagging
>>552270373
>>552269746Learn how to land, retard.
>>552270763I dropped some spice from 3km alt mach1 on a target 30km away you just got to feel it bro
TIFCS when?
What are some SL printer lineups? Swigger 3.7?
>>552271128Hopefully soon, although I have a feeling they aren't going to model the faster turret rotation speed Scorpio with FY-2 when
>>552271215anything with more than 2-3 premiums you actually spawn any matchesotherwise just go play plane boat or whatever you are good at
>>552271128do tank just drive itself to the front line like this?i imagined theyd put them on railway or truckbed or something
>cant reload near empty belt>cant change ammo from main gun
>>552272372>>cant reload near empty beltyou ammobox?
What should I fly out to bully the miggers at 11.0 tomorrow?
>>552271215Anything you can reliably get shitloads of kills in.
>>552273838Thai F-5
F-4J
>>552274327I fucking hate this thing so much in sim, it's really the only thing that really threatens me in the A-10C
>>552274327The squadron one? Would take another month to research.
>>552277014tech tree version is still a rapist you just have less missiles
>>552186878>Swiss ground subtree in Q1-Q2 2026Will we FINALLY get some proper mid-tier KINO with the Panzer 58/61/68?Hopefully, I am dying of starvation over here
>>552277714
>>552277714here's how it's gonna look >LTH>premium hetzer>melted hetzer>amx-13 just to make the frenchies mad again>centurion>pz68 in the tree, 58 as a premium>cv9030CH>leopard 2a4>leopard 2a4 140mm marathon reward in two yearspick five added up front then rest dripfed between six patches
2S38 is P2W.
>>552279390That's way too much, the Thai subtree only brought 4 vehicles (2 copy paste)in reality it will be>Melted hetzer>Panzer 68>pic rel SPAA>Panzer 87 with addon armor (basically Leo 2PL)>9030CH squadron?>Panzer 87 (2A4 random squadron) premium
>>552280707is that the chat noir or whatever?obviously the thai remark is valid, which is why I said>pick fivebut that being said even for gaijin's standards a second leo 2a4 premium in the same tree would be lazy anime 2a4m shan't be talked aboutmy bet's on a skin for the already existing pzbtl123, a premium panzerjager g1 and then maybe the pz61 as a mid tier premium
>All your missiles, rockets, bombs, whatever are on a nebulous "secondary weapons" bind>If you switch your secondary at all you can *only* use that weapon>Swapping between two different kinds of AAMs and guided bombs requires mashing buttons like a retardWhy is everything in this game so half assed. Why does switching which AAM I'm using block my ground ordinance. Why.
Man why r73 is suck a piece of fucking shit
>>552223370when i hit 2000 i turned them all into recycling and it was not worth itbut i'm crawling back up
>>552281559the human brain can only think about one thing at a time
i'm starting to think that i should sell both the mig-25 and boxer instead of just the migi'm losing interest in that thing as time goes on
>>552223370
>Give everyone at high enough tiers free vehicle spawns to try and mitigate the swarm of single spawn premium retards>Make these vehicles stock so they're utterly worthless and not worth using>You are not punished for ignoring these and just leaving after your single premium is dead anywayWhat was the point>>552223370The only thing I buy out of the BP shops anymore is backups.
>>552282272Why do I even have a real job instead of uploading crap on youtube?
>>552278475They really liked their small caliber rocket spam it seems
Since when airfiend ITO range are 15km and not usual 7? And they don't trigger RWR. And missiles don't have indicators?
One day i'll use those, one day....
>>552284053why do they not give these anymore? they never truly gave enough GE to make a dent into their wallets i'd imagine
>>552283883Get fucked I will camp the airfield and you can't do anything about it.
>>552283883since the day you became a nigger that can't respect the airfield
What is the difference between TOR-M1 and HQ17?
>>552284268One is vodka flavored the other one is soi.
>>552284268tor is russian garbage bought as a stopgap while better alternatives were being developedHQ17 is a fine piece of Chinese SAM
>>552283883>15kmif you're getting killed by them within past 7km then it's all onto you, they don't have more than 12km range and if you properly maneauver that range becomes lowerhowever they use IRST and not radar lock so your RWR doesnt give a shit
>>552284483Ok Gweilo.
>I get to kill people through any and all countermeasures in the PantsirYeah this seems fair
>>552284268hq17 has 3km more range and is a little fasterhq17 has longer range radar but like 4 degrees shallower scan zone for some reason and the radar spins a little quicker and can track from 30km instead of 14that is all
>>552241598>you thought you were angry at your retarded teammates before...
>>552284848>flies behind a tree for 0.0001 nanosecondswhat now pidor?
>tech tree f2aany fun?just spaded my mig29n and it was not that bad but coulda been better
>>552286387I dunno man I get to track people through mountains in this thing. Trees ain't shit.
so ermm why is the harrier gr7 still 12.7
EC maps tongue my anus
>>552286993because with its 4 aim-9ms its on par with the f-16 with 6 aim-9ms or 2 magic 2s isn't it obvious?
>>552284848yes the ground PESA won't be tricked by little aluminum strips, this is why it was so op for the longest time
>find out gayjew in their infinite generosity finally allows the played to take off the useless tusk kit from the sep2>doesnt actually replace the sideskirts with normal abrams sideskirts but merely removes the era blocksLazy zigger subhumans
>>552286993It's 12.3 thoughbegleit
Why is Gaijin so afraid of decompression?
>>552288387muh queue times (as if the game's playerbase hasn't grown several times since the first time that phrase was uttered)
>>552288387Because if the queue time extends above 15 seconds the playerbase WILL cry and shit their pants (allegedly. Ignore that several ground BR brackets, AAB, and Naval already have "long" queue times.)
Hello everyone
>>552288629>>552288780The places where people want decompression the most are the most popular BR brackets. 12.3-13.3 air is probably the worst offender
>>552281559You can shortcut keybind everything separately, shitter.
>infagtry will never dethrone Ba->*gets raped before infantry has even come out at all*>ACKKKKKKKKKKK
>552289652(you)
>>552289652Wow, people don't like DEI slop with shitty netcode? Say it ain't so!
are any of the fiat lambo any good?
>>552289545OK anon show me the binding for firing an IR and radar missile without hitting the weapon switch binding
>>552288629>>552288780I'm sure they use the same retarded "argument" when people want to pick only the maps they want to play. My enjoyment of this game would improve tenfold if I could pick which maps I want to play and if they made an effective containment server for all the slavnigger, chinksects and other turdworlders.
how 2 use aam-4i've fired 8 so far and only two connected
>>552290652Well your targets will probably try for them to not connect.
>>552291227is that typical?
>>552291367Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
>>552289652steam numbers are also a little less than half of the players online for war thunderi dont know the deal with battlefield though
>>552291475Do you seriously think even remotely significant numbers of people buy games on stores that aren't Steam when the games in question are available on Steam?
>>552291475>i dont know the deal with battlefield thoughThere's a fair number of consoleniggers but nobody knows how much. If one would assume a console has just as many players as PC then that would mean nuBattlefield has thrice the actual player numbers but I very much doubt it.
>>552291649When both games are multiplatformYes
>>552291649Yeah it's called consoles.
>>552291736>>552292195>cucksole abhumans>people
>>552292325>moving the schmoalpost
They should make it clickable.
is the j7d any good?
>>552293479>mig21>with chink fire stickswhat do you think? of course not
>>552293479It's very good, especially when you dont get uptiered into radar missiles.Don't listen to that other retard.
>>552293479You are funny man
>>552294236and the j7e?
>>552294865dogshit
Is HEAT on the M36B2 even worth using? I just nonpenned on a fucking Panther
I'm tired
>>552295472>play slop nations>get slop results>complain
>>552209636Do you happen to know where to find them?
>>552295324how many times per thread do we have to say thisheat is fucked right now
>>552295324You must've hit a really shitty spot then. I don't know if the people currently complaining about HEAT being broken since the patch are right, but if you ignore that it's usually worth bringing a couple HEAT rounds for the US 90 mm to deal with things M82 (which should be your main shell) struggles with. At 5.3/7 that's going to be very rare, though. Tiger II(H)s from the front, for example, or the Ferdinand/Jagdtiger.
>aam-4 missing shots that r77 would hitis it meor is it them
>>552186242R-77-1 is THE best ARH in the game thoughever
>>552296373excusez moi?
>>552296373I'd argue it's a tossup between the AIM-120C-5 even in its gimped state and the R-77-1. the C-5 has the clear kinematic advantage at longer ranges, but at closer ranges the R-77 can skullfuck you in a dogfight
>>552296509are you trying to impliy mica?the missle that has the range of aim-9? looooool
>>552296598there's seriously no way you think the amraam, especially c, is the best ARHit's the mica btw
>>552296774except you can fire R-77 from safe distance while you need to get below 15k to have actual chance of killing anybody with MICAI'm assuming you're a kroknigger that got killed once by rafale inbetween your sessions of killing 3+ planes per game with your hard to use SU-30SM2
best fox3 is the chink onebest fox2 is the chink one
Do I need any of these keybinds for naval?>>552295324not against Panther, but in an uptier it's useful. The ability to pen anything from any angle is underrated and lets you play in positions you otherwise wouldn't.
>>552296905the mica is 3x harder to notch than the r-77-1it's trivially easy to notch any ARH from over 15km, so whichever one is the best within 15km is the best. that's the mica by far, both kinematically and in terms of seekeryou can click on rafale player career profiles and see them with 2:1+ kdr in rafale and lower than 1 in 30sm2
>>552296740
>>552296905>while you need to get below 15k to have actual chance of killing anybody with MICAHow is this even a problem with the Rafale's 360-degree RWR that makes notching easy as pie?
how to notch I die all the time in top tieryeah I try to fly 90 degree to the missle and dump chaff but it rarely worksyes I am bad
>>552297265https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmVO-hBJSWQIt's kinda weird that no one has created a custom training map for this, now that I think of it.
>>552297265for missiles far away from you: just put the missile off your wing 90 degrees and chaff every second or so while slowly drifting up/down. if it's a MICA or fakour or phoenix, chaff twice as fastfor missiles closer: put the missile off your wing 90 degrees, then pull an extra few degrees away, while chaffing
>>552295762>You must've hit a really shitty spot thenIt was just the UFP, which protection analysis shows is pennable anywhere with heat.>the US 90 mm to deal with things M82 (which should be your main shell) struggles withM82 out of a 90mm can't even reliably pen Panthers from the front.
>>552297493>It was just the UFP, which protection analysis shows is pennable anywhere with heat.Probably the bug, then, or your angle was absurdly shitty.>M82 out of a 90mm can't even reliably pen Panthers from the front.That's a skill issue.
>>552297265>how to notchAim for 91-93 degrees instead of a perfect 90 (the deadzone goes farther into the negative closure rate numbers than the positives so when flying just slightly away you're not risking underdoing it just a tiny bit and exposing yourself), change altitude since the missile's IOG will kick in when it loses lock.
>>552297030>The ability to pen anything from any angleThat's just it, though. It DIDN'T pen something it should have easily ben able to.
>>552297265instead of 9 and 3try 4 and 8 instead once the RWR stop beeping then it meant you have enter the notch anglethen you either slowdown/speedup/dive/climb or in combination cause missile still follow its assume position if you just fly into the same direction
>>552291650we're never gonna know these real numbers sadly because companies only show playernumbers when they're really high or when they're lying
Why is the blue smoke purple?
>>552296774the C amraam is factually the best amraam we have, in reality it only turns like 0.3% worse according to the game filesit's got a better engine and less drag next to thatthe only reason people think the B is better is because 1 youtuber made a video comparing the missiles when the C wasn't finished yet
>>552298084>in reality it only turns like 0.3% worse according to the game filesyou can look up endless comparisons to see that this is not even remotely close to true, it's around 30% worse in turn radius and also a lot worse in retention
>>552298035chemtrails mix
>>552298162>endless comparisons>only 1 video ever gets shownshow me a recent comparison please because all i can reliably go off on is the game code and personal experience where it has worked better for me than the B
i think i haven't died to an amraam in around 200 games of toptier ARB. always mica or r-77-1. one death to an r-27ET
>>552296598>the C-5 has the clear kinematic advantage at longer rangesyou dont play the gamethe 120a/b has better kinematics below 40km if you are launching 120s at 40km+ in the first place you are retarded
>>552298084based retard
>>552298320You're right, I haven't played top tier for the last few months because I like my sanity. I'm going off of my memories of when the C-5 and R-77-1 were relatively new
>>552298035same reason the orange smoke is yellow
>>552298310Just throw some scenario into the missile calculator where it has to turn hard. No clue how big that difference is, looks like more than .3%.
>>552299031This shit is in 3D now? That's really cool, since when?
chinese prane stroker than gweilo praneno need wings to destroy capialism
>>552299130No clue, saw it for the first time and was surprised just now too. Wonder if the dev intends to add more launch parameters now that it could be displayed.
>>552299202speaking of J-10>gaijin adds J-10C>but it's not the WS-10 one>it's still the one that has AF-31 enginewhy?literally just add J-10B and then add J-10C with WS-10
>>552299403it's of gaijin's classic (((((((((early)))))))))) plays>j10bonly the one with tvc engine
>>552297587>That's a skill issue
>>552297405this is why I always shoot at least 2-3 missile at a target at absolute top tierpeople been playing notch thunder for over a year now some get real good at dodging italso you do see people try to notch your IR missile every now and then bring your 27ET guys
>>552299627>it's of gaijin's classic (((((((((early)))))))))) playsyeah it's been more than 3 fucking years since gaijin added>F-14A """""""""""""EARLY""""""""""so when is """"""LATE"""""" F-14A getting added huh
>>552299640Why'd you feel the need to take a screenshot of that? Of course you need to aim for weakspots. If you don't like that there's very few vehicles you'll enjoy in this game.
>>552299389Gaijin have said they want to expand the current shell comparison tool to flight performance charts, wonder if they'll keep up with Statshark and expand it to the third dimension. Would be super cool to have this, for both missiles and planes, accurately simulated in-game with no room for error through oversimplification or misunderstanding, there's so much more you can do with source code-level access to the engine itself.
>>552300007I mean all the FM parameters are datamined every patch anyways, so I'd assume that statshark simulations are pretty damn accurate. It's not like they're working with a black box. It would be cool to have more simulation and display options for sure, but I think the share of players that could make use of that is too small for Gaijin to put the effort into coding that.
>>552299031>flight characteristics>only differences>less drag>wing area multiplier>120B 1,275>120C 1,225>4% differencei was wrong about my 0.3% but it should still be just a 4% differenceso the way it behaves on statshark there isn't correct. also to make the only example of what is better be a 7km dogfighting angle shot is insincere, there are many other scenarios to keep an eye on
>>552300007>statshark actually shows you plane gross/fuel weight>statshark actually shows you RWR coverage>statshark actually shows you missile AND plane turn performance
>>552269746Don't land "against the hair". You can belly land only from one direction
>>552300359>the way it behaves on statshark there isn't correctthats (almost) exactly how it performs ingame
>>552300359The huge difference in energy retention comes from the way the motors are modelled, the A/B is more suited for hitting maneuvering targets while the C has more range in a straight line.
Well I think tank combat would be better of without hit camera.
>>552300710>straight line performanceonly at unnaturally long ranges, 40km+
>>552278475missing this one
AMRAAMs are shit. If you use literally any other Fox 3 in the game you'll realize how gimped Gaijin made them.
>>552299925I didn't say it couldn't penetrate weakspots, I said it couldn't reliably penetrate a panther from the front. Because it can't. American tanks have to rely on weakspots, but the tanks it faces most often, German and Russian, don't. They can RELIABLY penetrate 90% of American tanks from the front without worrying about weakspots. That's why I was using HEAT.
>>552300710this is also not accuratethe booster + sustainer of the amraam A and B is only 7 secondsthe C has a total booster of 7,75and it has more ΔV meaning it has more power in total of the entire booster time that is being shitted out of it, so even then, the energy retention will be better with the added less drag. and the wings being clipped additionally will mean it will bleed less speed
>>552300975I'll GLADLY take an AMRAAM over>PL-12>R-Darter>base R-77
>>552301212>PL-12gweilo...
>>552300789*better've
>>552301072>and the wings being clipped additionally will mean it will bleed less speedwhy do you think that's how that workslarger wings add MER in real life
>>552301072the C weighs 15-10kg more than the A/B thats why it performs worse at every bar extreme long range>wings being clipped additionally will mean it will bleed less speeddoesnt matter, aerodynamics arent modeled like that its just a number
>>552300989Having to aim for (pretty big) weakspots doesn't mean you can't reliably pen someone. That's the baseline.>American tanks have to rely on weakspots, but the tanks it faces most often, German and Russian, don't. They can RELIABLY penetrate 90% of American tanks from the front without worrying about weakspots. That's way to generalized, the US has plenty well armored WWII tanks.Sure, the 76 Shermans are comparatively weakly armored, that's the price you pay for the stabilizer.
>>552301072>and the wings being clipped additionally will mean it will bleed less speedThat also means it won't turn as tightly. Why do you think the Ta 152 turns so much better than the Doras?
>>552301776well i meant that the fact that you have less surface that air can cause friction with, so they will slow down slowerlook at things like the f-18 where there is more aerodynamic surface than fellow jets and that thing shits out its speed completely when turning>>552301956the extra weight really doesnt make it worse considering it's just fuel weight, and that gets turned into more ΔV in the end>>552302089i already established this, it should only turn worse by about 4% if following the math
>>552302268if what you were saying was based in reality, the f104 would have the best maneuvering energy retentionin reality it's planes with big wings like ta-152
>>552295554find the suggestion thread on the forums
>>552302268>it's just fuel weightits not thoughA/B goes from 147->101C goes from 161->110
>>552302268i was wrong about the massexcuse me for that>>552302363i'm not saying that at allthe f104 bleeds all its energy due to the giant ass airbrake of an elevator it has behind it which kills its energy retention where the ta has a much better elevator to help its sustained turn rateit also doesnt help that they nerfed the flight model of the f-104 recently with dubious proof
if i had the true motivation to do so i would compile all the math and see which is better in the endfor me simply the amraam C performs better over the A/B
>rus in username>is a cheaterWhy is this combination so common?
>>552301990Guess we have different definitions of what being able to reliably pen something means.To me it means "my tank can shoot this tank anywhere in the front and penetrate it no matter where the round lands. This is true of most German and Russian tanks; they don't really need to consider weakspots most of the time when facing the US, it's just point and click. Meanwhile, American tanks HAVE to rely on weakspots. Sticking with the Panther example if I'm in a 76 Sherman and I'm even slightly off when aiming for the turret weakspot, the round simply won't pen.
>>552303440it aint though its always the chinks
>>552303918its both
>>552303918>t. zigger
>>552303918chinks are (sometmies) based thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOHQhrEtLw
>>552304254whatever you say projecting chang on damage control
>>552304560>you can be either orZiggers and chinksects both cheat equally you retarded snownigger
>>552304549That's a bug.
>>552304149>most destructive computer worms from 1990-2010 came from russiaWhy are they like this
>>552304824They're mindbroken miserable mongoloids so they want to make everyone at least as miserable as them
why are russians so attracted to my male parts?
>>552303504>To me it means "my tank can shoot this tank anywhere in the front and penetrate it no matter where the round landsIf you think about the entire game that's just not a useful definition, as being able to lolpen your opponents is pretty rare. To most people it would just mean that your gun is able to punch through large, reasonably easy to hit weakspots instead of having to pixelhunt. Even the Object 292 would still not have a "reliable gun" as there's plenty of spots on other tanks it sees it won't pen.>Meanwhile, American tanks HAVE to rely on weakspots. Sticking with the Panther example if I'm in a 76 Sherman and I'm even slightly off when aiming for the turret weakspot, the round simply won't pen.That's not true before or after the 76 Sherman vs Panther/T-34 matchups. And the Shermans are an outlier of "normal" armor/gun/mobility/etc balancing as they add a stabilizer to the mix. Unless you fuck up you should be able to place a shot through a T-34s/Panthers weakspot before they manage to train their gun anywhere on your hull. If you want another example for the stabilizer tax look at the T-34-85 (STP), which sits at 6.3 instead of 5.7.
Realistic tank engine breakdown/malfunction effects when?
>Died to a AAM in the su7
>>552307296I think you saved the wrong image anon, it's still possible to make out something on that one.
>>552307296>spawn in>capture all 3 points uncontested>huge swaths of german, soviet, US, and japanese tanks still sitting in spawn due to 'malfunction' mechanicthis wouldn't even be fun
>>552307296gun overheating and malfunctions too
i love how massive the Ajax is next to proper MBTs
>>552308780>>552308780>>552308780>>552308780I don't have the Denetor II gif, but still, abandon your posts, lazy fucks
>>552308328If ships can randomly start with a double digit percentage of their crews imploding on the spot then tanks should struggle too desu
>>552308697It's astonishing the brits were able to make something so big shake so hard.
