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>Previous
>>552130907

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Dec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8
Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHg
Dec 18 Killzone 2 Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80Go
Dec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M

>LATEST PATCHES
Dec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274
Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
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In this thread instead of arguing about meta guns, we will only discuss melta guns
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>>552395307
What about guns that will be added to the game (soon)?
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Lets play!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243617457415/76561198141817078
Ice Digger Bugs 10
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>>552395420
That's not even justice anymore I think. Didn't they repurpose that model to be a stealth gun?
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ah they're called "sip-and-puff" controllers.
pretty much all i do is jerk off and play helldivers so if i can effectively get a third hand and optimise that i'm sure we'll capture Lesath before Gaellivare and Vog-Sojoth fall.
i assume it takes a while to get the hang of though
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Who you plappin'?
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>>552396286
>implying you have a choice
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>>552395428
cancelled due to low attendance
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>nearly half of all players bring the termite grenade on missions
Grim
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>>552396512
Sorry anon, wageslavin atm
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>we get to death star cyberstan
Hell, its about time
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>Hive world kino MO
Fine. I'll boot up your clown game, Svensk.
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>>552396602
Its almost like there’s an overabundance of super heavy enemies and thermite is the only anti-heavy grenade
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>hive world cancer MO
Still no reason to boot this shit back up
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>>552395428
>>552396512
The current MO is on Omicron
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>>552397476
I don't care about the MO I see rupture bugs I want rupture bugs.
Also hive lords are cancer.
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>shitters getting filtered by hive lord
>nerf troons actually getting their long awaited grunt fantasy for once
>AIEEE MY POWER FANTASY, NOOO STOP ITTTT I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER, THIS IS UNFAIR!
>A-ACKSUALLY I CAN SOLO THEM WITH A PISTOL I J-JUST FIND THEM ANNOYING, NO I WILL NOT SHOW PROOF DON'T BE TRANSPHOBIC
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>>552397538
>I don't care about the MO
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>hiveworld MO
time to bring out the Maxigun once again...
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>death star leak is true
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So what's the best way to break a Hive Lord's armor plate when playing with randoms? Just Spear the same spot until it breaks? Spear would also work well against Dragonroaches and occasionally Chargers.

I guess the silver lining of this MO is that the presence of Dragonroaches means no Bile Titan holes underground, and that means not having to pack Dynamite or Ultimatum just to be able to clear a nest.
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>>552399149
RR, straffing run, either mech. I like gas mines to hold bug breaches while I kill the HL
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>>552399149
Eagle strafing run, Gatling barrage and Emancipator mech. For dragon roaches, you can 1 shot them with the Orbital railcannon or doing the quick swap ultimatum tech
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>>552399149
How do you spear the same spot? You can't aim that thing.
I haven't hunted one of those since they launched, but I assume they're the same. The AC Mech did a pretty good job. Also throwing a fuckton of thermite nades with a supply pack.
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This MO is one of those ‘designed to lose’ ones, yeah?
8.5 million hive world missions in 6 days?
I don’t think that would happen if it was new content.
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>>552399137
How come? I recall the original leak mostly but I didn't hear about anything to further confirm it now happening
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>>552399730
Read the new MO
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>>552399650
Every hive lord armor plate can be locked on individually.
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>>552399149
>>552399650
Hivelord is 100% explosive resist btw, you are dealing "ballistic" damage to it not "explosive".
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>>552399726
divide it by 4

but they've said "well you failed the MO but our brave scientists disabled the safeties and pushed the button anyway" before so who knows either way
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>>552400217
anon said break the plate and the plates are 0% explosive reduction. only the main health underneath is 100%
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>>552400497
Oh you are right, my bad
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>>552400497
I mean, the armor plates are 5 armor anyhow, so the piddly 150 damage AP3 explosion that goes with all the AT weapons ain't going to do shit anyways.
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>>552395307
In the spirit of the prior thread's argument, and for my own autism as I was genuinely curious how many stratagems are viable, I catalogued useful answers to - specifically - FULL WAR STRIDER SEEDS (so like 5-8 war striders per base and per bot drop) and I went and rated them.
>red X = shit useless, obvi.
>yellow X or check = potentially viable, but imo something holds it back from being consistently useful. Check meaning it's on the more useful side of maybe and X meaning it's on the less useful side of mid.
>green check = good against war striders

Ofc thermites and ultimatum exist too and aren't on this list, but desu I'm being generous even including position-dependent things like the AT-emplacement - which can be either the most OP thing or worst shit depending on fog and terrain.

Overall by my count - assuming I counted right, I'm tired - there's conservatively 9/77 viable options for war strider seeds. Speaking in "variety" terms 3 of those are airstrikes, so 7/77 to be harsh.
To be overly generous (and honestly too liberal with the word "viable") and pretending laser cannon or AMR counts several war striders there's about 15/77 that could be """viable"""
Lastly, obviously, the X/77 fraction is inflated by non-offensive strats like smoke callins, backpacks, etc. etc.
Still, autistic swigger game design visualized is a glorious sight to behold.

Looking forward to discordtroons hanging themselves over me not considering orbital gas viable against a dozen striders (I'm clearly shit at the game and need to lower the difficulty)
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>>552402069
cool but you're obviously a biased war strider whiner because you've crossed out a bunch on the basis of you being incapable of aiming (big surprise) or arbitrarily not liking the cooldowns

that said, this shit is very tiresome, talk about melta guns instead
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>>552402405
>railgun and AMR not crossed out despite the fact they're dogshit against full strider seeds
Good thing you didn't actually name any or else I'd be able to specify how you're full of shit instead of just saying how (you) are full of shit in a vague, general sense.
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>>552402069
>gatling barrage crossed out
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>>552402784
i didn't really want to entertain your faggotry, correct
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>>552402069
>commando crossed out
it's arguably worse than EATs against warstriders, bit it's not completly useless tier
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Stalkers are too hard.
Caves are too hard
Dragons are too hard
Hunters are too hard
Green things are too hard
Teammates are too hard
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>>552402069
HMG and emplacement should definitely be at least yellow, it takes like an entire HMG mag to take a war strider down though.
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>>552403651
you could make an argument that it's better (at least in terms of being able to take out more than one at a time); the downsides of it being the slowest rocket and missing sometimes against fast enemies are negated by it being the slowest fucking enemy which also sticks out like a lighthouse

why even reply to this tard though

>>552404092
thank you for the segueway to turning the thread back onto the topic of my penis but i'm going to bed
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All missions are filler, nothing ever happens.
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>can't commandeer scout striders after killing the pilot and use it against other bots
Justify this.
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Is it really going to be 2 years already, damn
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>in the middle of a snowstorm
>prone
>unaggro'd
on top of a massive boulder
>light armor
>random hunter jumps exactly to my position and calls a bug breach
I can't wait to see the stealth warbond either "fix" this issue for super credits or be broken upon release and do nothing
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Does current MO implies it can be done with diff 1?
So that means I can effectively farm SC and contribute to MO effort at the same time?
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Holy shit omicron is cursed.
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>>552404132
> it takes like an entire HMG mag to take a war strider down though.
stop shooting the crotch, that's the second worst place to shoot a war strider if you don't ahve heavy AT. Even dumping into a leg only takes half an HMG mag
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>>552402069
>HMG, commando, epoch as red X
>mortar sentry, which literally cannot even fucking damage them, as yellow check
okay buddy, okay
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>>552396286
Who's the shorty hiding behind SEAF-chan's skirt? Also, who's that on far right?
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>>552403153
Honestly orbitalchuds are lucky I didn't fully cross out every single orbital including laser for what I'm ranking here. Idk where swigs get off thinking orbitals are in any way competitive with eagles except in a few niche cases. Off the top of my head:
1. laser for base clear
2. napalm for bug breaches
3. railcannon for dragons
Maybe a few others.
Glad they're in the game but eagle airstrike and 500kg exists. I'm not waiting 100s for ONE airburst strike. Buff orbitals.
>>552404132
Entire mag seems like a lot for a full strider seed though, and emplacement would surely blow up before you could even get that much damage out? I don't use hmg emplacement tho idk if it's more durable than a standard sentry. Again, multiple striders though and HMG isn't even viable by itself without a supply pack.
>>552406128
big if true perhaps I'm bluepilled on the power of the hmg.
>>552403651
The few times I've used it - never against a full strider seed - it felt really bad. I don't use it much but extrapolating my experience + 2 min cd is why I crossed it out just since you'd never have nearly enough for full striders. Could have maybe been yellow though that's fair.
Shame about non-EAT expendables. I really wish NEATs were better. If you could kill a war strider and deck the clusters on a bunch of small bots I'd use em all day, I love that mechanic.
...but lol no armor pen and abysmal cd swigger style god forbid it's anything but a paid downgrade.
>>552406301
Ah, my mistake. I could have totally thought mortars helped against striders though it appears I'm wrong or misremembering it as hulks??? I mean that's fine that's honestly further toward my overall point.
Epoch gets a red X because it's a total meme though. Charging the railgun is easier against multiple striders lobbing nades at you, and at least feels different than using RR/EATs. Epoch is the worst of both worlds - the same AT experience just worse.

Lastly on review am I wrong about AC, ACchuds?
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words words words words words
not reading any of these blogposts!
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>>552405580
Superfluous since the next planned warbond will contain the Fast Recon Bicycle
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>>552406976
The HMG emplacement dishes out a ton of damage very fast and very accurately, it's almost always the superior option to the AT emplacement when it comes to enemies with less than 5 armor rating.
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>hive world without rupture faggotry

actually fun
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>>552406976
It's very clear at this point that you've either barely played the game or are simply extremely retarded and terrible at it.
Since you're apparently the same fag who has never fought a Hive Lord and authoritatively misremembered the wiki article you read, I'm thinking both.

Please engage in shutting the fuck up about such topics from now on because arguing about War Striders is tiresome enough ]when it's coming from people who actually own a copy of Helldivers 2.
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wheres the leaks
>UM IS THAT ARROWHEAD APPROVED??? THIS IS WHY ERAVIN GOT LE HECKIN CANCELED!!!
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>nerf troons not going to hiveworld
IM....I'M......I AM NOTICINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>552407802
>log in for my free cape
>"fuck it, might as well do my PO"
>drop in
>immediately killed by friendly arc dog
>squish the offender with my reinforce pod
>go do a shrieker nest, but two times in a row I clip through the hellbomb and ragdoll away
>crash before my 3rd attempt
>requeue, drop in
>land in a hive breaker drill room, cant drop my gear
>run to the next ceiling hole, still cant drop my gear
>fuck it
>run to extraction, picking up samples for my PO
>completely silent 2min extract because the point is so close to the map edge
>log off
sum total of 30min in the game and I regret it
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>>552407905
Nice try but I'm a different retard than the hive lord retard. Also I'm aware I don't know every single about the game and I'm open to being wrong, hence me asking questions and collaborating with people who aren't retarded autistic spergs like you with 10,000 hours using thermite/EAT/RR thinking the game is totally fine and balanced because your single mom overdosed on tylenol before you were born.

Also;
>no ACchuds even exist any more to answer my question on whether they work on war striders
Better believe I ain't droppin with that dogshit to even bother trying it though.
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What went wrong with the AC? How would /hdg/ fix it?
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>>552408746
>whats wrong with the pivot point that AH uses to balance everything else around
honestly nothing
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>haven't played for a month
>Do one (1) game
>hear stalkers around but no stalkers (sound is broken)
>die with gatling sentry in hand
>now it's somehow stuck on activating and can't call it for the rest of the mission
>then pelican gets yeeted by the hive lord super far into the air with me inside
I swear every time I come back to this game, it gets 10x worse
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>>552408746
I don't like that it staggers enemies now. It makes Hulks harder to kill. Behemoths don't really care about the stagger, they start rotating while in the staggered animation and it leaves you very little room to keep shooting anyway.
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>>552408746
its actually pretty OP. It really should be toned down just a little bit
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>>552408746
It's mostly fine, but if you just buffed its ergo by like 5 or 10 all of the complaints would instantly evaporate.
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>>552408449
>no ACchuds even exist any more to answer my question on whether they work on war striders
It's 4 shots to the joint, 8 to the upper leg
Almost as shit against war striders as the LC that needs 10 seconds to kill a hip joint
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>>552409571
AC is just very very mediocre vs. war striders, hitting the hit point is hard and unreliable. 12 shots to the crotch should kill IIRC.
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>>552408746
I legitimately don't understand what you guys are talking about with the AC it's good on every faction
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What the fuck is this new mission? This planet with Mothra and the Dune worm is FUCKING ASS
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>>552409679
It's not a one shot noobtube so it's unusable trash
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>>552409885
>new
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>>552409571
i can shoot it once with the GODsar cannon
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>>552409571
LC to the hip joint is 5 seconds
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>8,500,000 succesful extractions from a hive planet
Yeah, we're losing this one
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I don't think Omicron is worth it.
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So the incel corps is just gonna rape half the bot front
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>4 AC shots to kill a heavy is considered bad now
>war strider hip joint is considered hard to hit now
the absolute state of hellshitters
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>use arc thrower or blitzer on bugs
>teammates consistently run in front of me while I'm stunning bug breeches
What causes this?
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>>552411429
only D1chads, D1GOOODDSSS can save us now...
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>>552411970
lack of spatial awareness
also the fact the game is fairly unchallenging leading to people paying far less attention to most external factors
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>>552411970
They are not inoculated with retarded friendly fire weapons, do the needful and use them more often.
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>>552407056
>next planned warbond will contain the Fast Recon Bicycle
You'll get decent looking armor with dogshit recycled passives, light pen weapons and shitty supports that looked good on paper (for realism), shitty recolored skins and maybe a booster (they pretty much gave up on making new ones). You need more?
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>>552412083
I wouldn't even call it lack of special awareness I would have thought that most players would just not run into the middle bug breeches, like they would have died lighting or not from the 50 other ways to lock down a breech.
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>>552408449
>Nice try but I'm a different retard than the hive lord retard.
nigger you posted a screenshot from the same wiki 15 minutes later with the same red scribbles over it. this is not a riddle that takes the detective genius of scooby the doo to solve
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>>552411970
not my problem
>>552409008
not my problem
>>552409885
not my problem
>>552411429
not my problem
>>552411692
not my problem
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>>552411970
most of your teammates are probably console players (subhuman)
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>>552412286
i need to do sick bmx tricks
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>>552412392
But anon, I'm a console player.
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>>552412385
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So since the leaks were true. Which front are we voting the Star of Peace to be used on? And which planet are we blowing the fuck up, given the chance?
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>>552409571
The sooner you understand that the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't have that little voice in their head that says
>oh that guy is using something dangerous I will not stand near him
The sooner you understand most issues faced in this game. I'd say it's just a bug front issue but the war strider discourse clearly shows the bot front has a good amount.
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>>552413213
Aurora Bay
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>>552413213
terrek
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>>552413213
SE
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>>552413213
what leaks post them coward
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So would the current storyline be better if Super Earth had fallen?
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>>552413213
aurora bay
>force joel to do backflips about spawning the jet brigade
lesath
>revenge for the lesath supply line debacle - easily the worst chokepoint on the map
acamar-iv
>bug lesath
bore rock just because it'd be really funny
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>>552413936
dumb fuck
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The game isn't hard enough if i can fight the flamenwerfer brigade with no flame resist armour and not die on a diff 10
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>>552413936
The leaks don't matter, they were already proven true.
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>Over Christmas the introduce the Recon campaign so people doing meme orders on planets not marked for liberation don't decrease liberation rate
>Introduce "waste a week on hive world with no chance of liberation" major order
>It isn't a recon campaign
>Bots immediately begin double offensive that cannot be stopped unless we ignore major order
awesome
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>people voting to move the DSS to omicron
For what purpose?
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>>552414476
>Planet cannot be liberated
>Half of the map is caves so eagle storm and heavy ordnance do fuck all
At least we have a mech cooldown decrease
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>>552414153
>>552414194
>ERM THE LEAKS ARE TOTALLY REAL
just the kind of intelligence I expect from a bugtroonie
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>>552413992
>aurora bay
You and I both know it will be conveniently left out of the vote
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>>552414752
Leaks said we can blow up planets, MO says we are working on blow up planets. Seems pretty cut and dry.
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>>552414476
We're at 3.267% and need to beat 3.33%, we could feasibly liberate it if we get a higher percentage of people + the DSS
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>>552413213
New Stockholm
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>>552414260
lower the difficulty by uninstalling the game
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>>552414901
>if we get a higher percentage of people
There are 30k people on there already, the only planet nearing a good amount is heeth and apparently those 6k bug chasers aren't moving away from the one planet they've been fighting on going on 3 weeks now.
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>>552414476
>should the DSS be rotting on an automaton controlled planet with 5% of the playerbase
>or the current MO planet to get mech cooldown decrease and free hellpod optimization in a few hours
Retard.
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only gay NIGGERS do not join this lobby
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243643430686/76561198085764721
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>>552414752
Neither of those anons but here
>>549540175
now stop being gay, okay?
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>>552415179
3/4
>>552415254
>now stop being gay, okay?
sir, this is 4chan
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>>552415179
FVLL the rest of you ARE gay NIGGERs
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>>552412948
then it's more likely your positioning is terrible and you're directly responsible for killing your teammates and don't know it
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>>552415653
ironic considering only discord users joined your lobby
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>>552415179
Failed
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>>552413213
Super Earth
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>>552415689
I'm in the front of everyone where I should be at the edge of the breech with no one on screen. Anyone dying is walking directly into the breech, like direct into it.
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>>552415091
The DSS also brings the hidden bonus of rallying retarded stragglers who don't know what planet to go to. Even if we only get a net .5% an hour we are fighting on Omicron for 10 fucking days, we can do it
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Is there a way to find out the amount of failed missions on Omicron?
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based firebomb hellpod bringer kevin night night routine begins now I'm over it cigaranov but i got helldivers haha!
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>>552416089
We have a 91.8% success rate
https://helldiverscompanion.com/#map



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