>Previous>>552560125>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to spread Managed Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSDec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8Dec 04 Liberate the Magma Worlds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLX9solUlHgDec 18 Killzone Warbond https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80GoDec 18 Festival of Reckoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDLdCtEf1M>LATEST PATCHESDec 02 1.005.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/491583942944621274Dec 05 1.005.001 (stratagem menu reload crash hotfix)
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thanks for voting on the divegrass form.I FUCKING HATE SWEDEN won by a single vote over I DIVE.he will be the token nigger of the /vg/ team. (You) can watch it from january 23rd.Helghast rep has been retired, if you have any ideas for the vacant spot, just reply to this post and management will consider it. EAGLE-1 and her model will be looked at, since she was the only one with mixed responses, where everyone else have been rated positively./hdg/ also brought home plenty of awards, being the crowd favourite yet again:>Best General Aesthetics >Best Anthem >Best Goalhorns >Best Player Award
>>552724767SEAF-chan with the baby blue armor.
what if we tried not being tedious faggots in this thread
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Reminder.
>>552725019audience hates it when a player has a different color kit than the rest of the team (other than the gk). she's already in btwhttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki//hdg/_Roster(ignore that killzone is still in here, i need to go get dinner and then after my vacation i will fix it)
>>552725414>audience hates it when a player has a different color kit than the rest of the teamMost of the other teams I pay attention to have at least one or two characters that are in outlandish non-standard outfits, not even counting ones with very different body types like the rocket dev. If that's a real rule then it's very sparsely enforced.
>>552725556yes but did they win "Best General Aesthetics"?>sparsely enforced.correct, the rule is something like at most 2-3 full body model players (other than the gk) are allowed on the field per team. previous iterations of the /hdg/ team also had fuckhuge models which people didn't like so we downsized. still not even close to how bad chibi gacha teams are.
>diving crossplay bugs>retard keeps killing himself repeatedly>"wtf why arent my strats refilling">retard thinks respawning resets your strat cooldowns>ask "did ur big bro carry u to dif8, u shitter?">tked & kickedTrue story.
What are the most quintessential warbonds to get?
>play with randoms>Hive Lord appears>everybody groups up, stands their ground and starts dropping stratagems to kill itIt's always heartwarming to see a bunch of randoms picking up each other's EATs and Spears, topping each other off with Supply Pack, lining up Strafing Runs, targeting that one specific armor plate, ultimately bringing it down, and then walking over to kick its dumb corpse and laugh in its face. Still, I wish we got more than 888 extra experience for killing the thing, it's nice for faster weapon leveling but why can't we just get a new sample type for killing super-heavies and for the D10 Mega Fort sample?
>>552726294Consult the chart.
>>552726294warp pack and ultimatum
>>552726461chart made by someone who owns none of the warbonds
>>552726334
>>552726574Let me guess...you're an arc-tard?
>>552726980what gave you that impression
>>552726482>>552726574baldyose with the trvke
MO status?
is it really so broken or OP to be able to carry both expendables at the same time?
>>552728427It would intrude upon the Commando's niche. The weakness of the expendables is that the 1st shot is effectively a stationary weapon if you want to use the 2nd.
>>552728654of course for consistency we would be able to carry two commandos at onceand dual wield them on each shoulderand swap my secondary for another railgunand dual wield those at the same timeand wear a new armour with actual heavy penand grow my character model 10x taller
>>552728427not if you sacrifice your backpack slot to carry the second
>>552728854>and dual wield them on each shoulderLeave the hive lord to me.
>>552728427>>552728879That would be an interesting idea for a backpack stratagem.>Stratagem: Expendable Sleeve>If the backpack is empty, pressing the backpack key while wielding an expendable AT weapon stows it in the backpack>If the backpack is storing an expendable AT weapon, pressing the backpack key causes the player to put away their support weapon (if it's currently being wielded) and pull out the stored expendable AT weaponMost broken scenario, you can carry two Commandos at once and call down a third to fire twelve rockets from a single position. But more ideal scenario, you can carry an EAT on your back while using a support weapon, and pull out the EAT in case of an emergency.
>>552729172That sounds more like an armor passive to me. If you have the armor then you can pick up a second expendable and it will go into your back slot, also being pulled out first or alternatively will be pulled out with the backpack button. If a backpack is picked up it is as simple as auto dropping the weapon like any other backpack.
This thing better have extra range and stun.
>>552729172It should be a mechanic that whenever you switch from a two-handed weapon to a one-handed, you keep hold of the prior weapon in your off-hand while one-handing the other. So you can put an EAT on your back, pick up a 2nd, then switch to your pistol and the diver will still hold the 2nd EAT in their right hand while the 1st one is on their back. Have it work for two-handed primaries too, if you switch from your rifle to your sidearm the diver keeps the rifle tucked into his left armpit ready to quickly switch back.
>>552730085I'd be fine with it not having any stun at all, as long as it has enough range and damage to actually kill shit, without having to backpedal to prevent them from geting close enough to attack you.
Is we getting tank?
>>552730085>>552730364Considering how the maxigun is a shitty MMG with a backpack and tons of drawbacks, the heavy flamethower 100% is going to be some stupid shit like doing the same damage and range but you get more ammo to shoot. The fuel tanks will blow up if you get ragdolled or shot because AH loves """realism"""
I can feel it coming The Sex Update
>>552730085All I really want is an alt fire that consumes a set amount of ammo and blasts a fireball that can go out say 30m. So if you want to you can throw fire at range.
Irons1ght and his tranny discord claims there are 4 warbonds already being made. So far we have 3 with Redacted Regiment being the only one named so far. The other 2 is >pic related
>>552727458Only 10% of oil rig missions are successful.
Patch Tuesday...
>>552731192>When every warbond is premium, no one will be!
>>552731146
>>552731830Pretty much yeah
>>552730085It has two barrels. I'm sorry anon, but its a "heavy flamer". Maybe just a little bit of extra range but its main purpose, as clear from its physical design, is simply more damage.
>>552730985I feel it, too.
>>552730085What are they gonna do for base flamethrower to fix how shit it is on bugs right now.
>>552730085Heavy burning take it or leave it.
>>552731192Holy hell what is top left? Also these look sick
>>552728427You're supposed to be carrying an eat and dropping down eats when you need to use an eat. Effectively you carry 3 eats all the time. Carrying another one would be ridiculous.
>>552732901>top leftIncendiary smg
>>552732901>Samefag from previous thread still at itSAAAR PLS PLS PLS LOOK AT SPOILER SAR PLSSSS
>>552731192Woah, all this content... AH should split it up into 3 warbonds instead. We are gonna needs skins for tanks now too!
>>552733317>>552733227
>>552726461Detonation where it needs to be, if anything it should be in its own tier of "press g to throw thermite".Street needs to be d tier, like seriously is cuck chair really that good?Servants could get bumped down a tier unless you really like the nuclear boom.Steeled needs to be bumped down. Gas, viper, python, control, and fire should be in their own warbond tier of "gimmick" fun. It's fun but it's only if you want the gimmick. Ceremony should be b tier, the armor is frankly amazing. The amendment is great and it's the only decent self contained melee warbond if you're looking for melee, Outside maybe python. You get a lotta new stuff in there that changes how you play.Should also be a "you want a new pistol" tier. Because the starting pistols are boring.
>>552732901A defender with a crisper taped to it (30 ergo, take it or leave it)
lobby?
>>552733110...ohThat's very disappointing, unless it's coyote tier. Then lol they're scraping the barrel.>>552733317You mean put half of it in the super store?
>>552730085>ideal world:single continuous feed ammo supplyat least double the DPS heavy burning DoT35 stagger forcesignificantly longer range, at least 25 metersfires a liquid napalm gel that can arc over objects and splatter off of surfaces>likely world:slightly more DPSslightly longer rangesingle continuous feed ammo supply>doomsayers world:single continuous feed ammo supply
>>552733374Man, Shoulda just been like a shotgun. Something with built in stagger and flame would feel way better. That's way better than incendiary bullets at least.
>>552733553Heavy napalm + twice the range Tuesday patch before the warbond. Flamethrower has heavy napalm fire to set it apart from the torcher and keep the lower ergo. Calling it now Or worse they make the flamethrowers ergo better and they make this the shitty low ergo flamethrower.
>>552733661>>552733553>>552733227
>>552733479The smg is gonna have a an underbarrel flamer so it probably won't shoot incen bullets (gay)>You mean put half of it in the superstore?No, it's just too much content. They should pad it out with emotes, victory emotes, skins, and make new boosters again. We need meta-busters like hellpods (gas)
>>552733754>make new boosters againI wonder what dog shit booster they'll come up with. It's actually kinda funny seeing them make the shittiest boosters imaginable.
>>552731192I'm looking forward to the hammer even though I know deep in my heart that it'll be a disappointment
>>552733754>Swiggers got so mind broken by the coyote that instead of releasing an smg equivalent they went for a one-two equivalent instead (and still haven't fixed the firing bug)
>>552733937They've been on vacation since the one two came out. So we might see a fix next week
>>552733937It's really strange how the coyote specifically made Swedes shit themselves so hard they had to nerf it in a super roundabout way by buffing enemy resistance to catching fire.As anyone in the thread could tell you the thing doesn't hold a candle to crossbow or eruptor, and having enemies take one more bullet to catch fire doesn't really nerf it much at all.But I guess in the retard Swede mind the xbow and eruptor are "balanced" by being aoe since it means you could kill your teammate by accident if you're retarded.
>>552733860what even is it going to be? first thought is higher destruction force, but 30 non-explosive destruction force only lets you kill illuminate lighting spires and laser turrets, open cargo containers, and bust up the illegal broadcast tower, and 40 destruction force is too much as it would let you crush bug holes (including bile titan holes), fabricators, and bio-processors and blow through entire sections of city wall with a single hit
>>552725406the same zoomer nigger who shits up copeg is also bad at horde shooter for gamer dadsnot surprising
>>552731192What does the WW1 armor do? Provide resistance to gas, fire and explosive damage?
>>552734690increased digging speed
>>552734690I think an anon said the meat tenderizer armor was "boring" because the passive was a siege-ready copy paste. As for the historical larp stuff, who knows. I just hope they don't change a game mechanic for no reason to invent a purpose for these armors.
>>552734802Fantastic, does that mean we're finally getting the shovel as a secondary too?
>>552734858no
>>552734213Did you forget how much discomfort eruptor not being useless on release caused them? They were obsessed with nerfing it for multiple patches in a row. Then after the the game's decline they gave up and decided to give everyone an easy to use do it everything gun and it's now a lot stronger than it was on release.Eruptor is a special case, they wanted to make it balanced (they failed though, instead of making it balanced they made it completely useless), but now the concept is different, it is specifically made overpowered to appease gamer dads.
>>552731192What role is the luger pistol going to play in the already huge pistol lineup? Clip version of the senator?
>join random>all dead and i dropped at extract alone>call pelican>revive one guy>pelican comes and he tries to kill me>i ragdoll away because of bubble shield>shoot him in the pelicanWhats with randoms and teamkilling.
>>552734690>>552733227
>>552734957Bummer
>>552735104style points
man, the pacifier just feels like shit. what a shame
a dad game. or was it dead game? either would do.
>>552734971>Stronger than on releaseI was about to say that release Eruptor shrapnel was orbital airburst shrapnel... but you're right. basically ALL the damage came from the shrapnel. At least now it's consistently strong with its bullet and explosive damage and you don't have to tech it to get faster bolt cycling.>It's to appease gamerdadsEven if the eruptor didn't exist, the Swede nerfing coyote was them going back on their word just to very slightly nerf the weapon? It's just a very confusing move all-round. Break your word to the community but barely shift anything about the nerfed weapon to... appease your own ego? I see lots of youtube retards latching onto the coyote nerf as evidence they can't trust the devs and they'll never forget nerfdivers. The first months of the game truly mindbroke the playerbase.I think the reason why they focused on coyote is because it is a great all-rounder with no compromise, and in dev blogs they always talk about compromise. The one-two has a GL? It's gotta have bad ergo. Blitzer has infinite ammo but no range. Even xbow/eruptor has a "compromise" in that you can't use it at close range. That's not the case with coyote. You could light most enemies on fire with a single bullet at any range, decent mag size, controllable ROF, ergo, and sounds good to use with med pen. It just had slightly less damage than other assault rifles which was mitigated by med pen and lighting enemies on fire.
>>552735883>was them going back on their word just to very slightly nerf the weaponThe worst part is that the game director regretted saying it but he admitted the changes were specifically to nerf coyote in an interview.
Why do nerf troons always show up without fail during brown hours?
>>552735883To be fair coyote lacks stagger, and has weak ergo and recoil. It shits out damage but it can't be caught with its pants down unlike the cookout. It's a very bad gun if you're relying on it as a secondary source of damage to your kit like with a support weapon.
Coyote should have been ap2. The fire dot would still be giving it stellar effective range and damage. But unfortunately there is no niche for any ap2 guns in Bufftoddlers so it would have been doa like Variable.
Are these 'gamer dads' in the thread with us right now?
>>552736180This is why: >>552725406
>>552736226>ergojust get used to it>recoilyour engineer, your fortified
PATCH TOMORROW, MAXIGUN BUFF SOON>maxigun now have 1000 ammo>maxigun now do heavy penetration to piss nerf indians off>One-Two ergonomic buffed to 40>One-Two gets 2 more grenade and 2 more magazines>bigger hitbox for the chainsaw>Double Freedom demolition force buff, now you can open container door with Volley mode
>>552736496just use HMG if you need heavy pen that muchmaxigun is an MMG sidegrade with a cuck ballast backpack, as such it wouldn't make sense with heavy pen
>>552736496NNNOOOOOO DO NOT DO IT SAAR PLEASE. DO NOT REDEEM THE BUFFS. HOW AM I TO FARM IZZAT IF CHILDRENS VIDEOGAME IS TO BE MADE FOR BLOODY BENCHOD GAMER DADS SARR. PLEASE DONT SAAR MY FAMILY WILL DISOWN ME IF I LOSE ANY MORE IZZAT.
>>552735361It feels great in semi-auto, mid-to-long range vs bots. Being a Judy sidegrade that's all it needs to do well.
>>552736496Id be down with that. I watched my friend use maxigun on acid planet and it was cool watching him rape hulks. My prediction is melee armor rework so everything gets the bonus. >>552736591Fuck HMG desu. Should just buff it too while we're at it.
>>552736226Well assault rifles as a category don't stagger much so I didn't really consider that, but I don't think the lack of it really affects my points. The ROF is a very comfortable 600 rpm so I never thought of the coyote as having poor recoil and 50 base ergo is plenty useable.Coyote feels very much, to me, like the starter gun you give a level 1 in FPS's. Something that's an answer to every situation you face but not the best by any metric. I'd put it on the higher-end of generalist weapon design but nothing overpowered.
>>552736838But judy sucks
>>552736591Backpack support weapons should be superior to the backpackless ones>Autocannon is better than AMR>RR is better than Quasar, Commando and EATYou traded superior mobility with jump/warp pack and near-infinite ammo with the supply pack for a ammo backpack, you should get a gun that can fuck everything up.
>>552736931Common aimlet take.
>>552734306honestly doesn't sound that unbalanced given the penalty that is bringing a melee weapon. if it seems too useful that's only in comparison to the incredible worthlessness of every other melee choicebut i guess you could make it an explosive hammer that requires ammunition if you really hate the hilarious idea of watching some dude gradually liero his way through a whole city on his own
>>552737025I see your point but to me it just underlines that maxigun has always been a bad idea. They should have satisfied the cries for a minigun by mounting one on the FRV. Ammo backpacks should have remained exclusive to team reload weapons.
>>552737058I'm not opposed to melee weapons being able to destroy spawners. I love that the chainsaw can kill fabricators, but it does that through AP and damage,not destruction force. Sledging a bughole would be cool but destruction force is such a binary mechanic: either you have enough and you instantly destroy the thing the nano-second you make contact or it does literally nothing.
>>552737039Judy is for aimlets that want to aim center mass.
>>552737425So you think tapping a dev head twice is hard?
i want a gun that shoots lasersnot a laser gun, i mean each projectile it fires is a miniature scythe
>>552737252>either you have enough and you instantly destroy the thing the nano-second you make contact or it does literally nothing.It deals ramping demolition force actually so it could ramp to that.
>>552737513You think aiming center mass isnt good enough for you?You need to cheese every gun and use it the unintended way it was designed just so you can min max your bullet output?
>>552737252I wouldn't use it either way. Standing that close to a bug hole is a guaranteed way to end up with a thermite or whatever glued to your ass.
>>552737667You seem confused. Light pen is the aimlet choice due to high ergo, low recoil, and large dakka mags. Aimgods choose medium pen because to them low ergo, high recoil, and short mags are a small price for extra power.
>>552738191>extra power
>conduct mobile extractionwhat the fuck is this shit
>>552738397I've tested guns for dps in this game since it launched and can say with absolute certainty that giving up a whole level of penetration value for almost no benefit is not worth it. Medium pen is consistently higher dps and more capable. Light pen is universally the worse choice unless convenience is a factor to you, which it should never be.
>>552738432Become one of God's own truckers and prepare to abandon it immediately to fight hive-lords far away from the oil rig because it will get one-shot it otherwise.
>>552738191heavy pen is the ultimate aimGOD choice.medpen sissies are cowering in fear when the AP4LORD walks in the room.shitting all over the medpen cuckie sissies.
>>552738601You'll be correct once there's a heavy pen R-63 variant.
>>552738601Aimlets take maxigun. AimGODS take HMG. Light pen users are brainwashed hellsissies that overseers take to their bedchambers every night...
>>552738657I'm correct now.medpen is shit compared to heavy pen weapons.what can medpen offer that heavy pen can't already do?NOTHING
>No AP5 primary with negative ergo, 1000 recoil per shot, and blistering 17 rpm
>>552738849still better than the DCS
>>552738849It will be in the nerfnigger warbond
>>552738791Almost correct perhaps, since Eruptor's pick rates exceed those of 95% of the rest. Still, we need more heavy pen primaries for the "more pen = more better" meta to reach full blossom. Just gimme my heavy pen Diligence.
So we all agree to have the DSS obliterate Aurora Bay given the chance, right?
Bolt action AMR primary when?
>>552739028It's the ultimate aimGOD weapon thoughbeit? You don't need more than 17 rpm because you'll hit every shot and the recoil is there so you don't die of boredom inbetween.It will still only 2-tap devastator heads though.
>>552738874DCS is easily the best in an already very strong category though
>>552739159anon your constitution?
>>552739265Nta but it would at the very least need a scope. Not all of us fail to notice enemies more distant than 100m.
>>552739265Yeah but good
I've been working on a filter listlet me know if it improves your experience/.*tr[o0].*[o0]n/i;boards:vg/sa.*ar/i;boards:vg/izzat/i:boards:vg/bugchaser/i:boards:vg/bugnigger/i:boards:vg/bugdiver/i:boards:vg/botdiver/i:boards:vg/botnigger/i:boards:vgi accept suggestions on what i could add to the filters
HOLY SHIT ARROWHEAD JUST UNVEILED THE NEW AUTOMATON CLAW TROOPER
>>552739260it's dogshit compared to the eruptor, it doesn't do any damage
>>552739597This can be said about all primaries at this point.
>>552739669and? no one cares.shut the fuck up little medpen sissie.let the big ap4 BVLL do all the work
>>552738849>No durable damage so it's just a glorified senator
>>552739713You will never be as strong as launch spray & pray GODS. The only AP1 weapon in the game.
>>552739713Meh. It'll get nerfed sooner than later. The cuck cycle of the Eruptard makes it inevitable.
>>552739793No it won't, it's the devs favorite crutch.
>>552739793this is what smallcock medpen chuds believe.AMRGODs were given the right to 1-tap hulks is a statement in itself to tue superiority of Heavy Pen and the devs willingness to continously buff Heavy Pen GOD'S and reward them for their dominance while ignoring the cuckie medpen niggers.
>>552739489fucked up onereplace the second line with this/sa*r/i;boards:vg
>>552739884Cope. Coyote, Purifier, Scorcher, and other S tiers will be nerfed eventually as well.
>>552731192>laser shotgunnice>deployable shieldif it's a throwable it's peak, if secondary it's shit>expendable mini nukenice>sledge hammershit unless it has heavy pen, heavy stagger and terrain destruction>ww1it's gonna be another larp warbond with shit armor passive and weapons like MoC, calling it
>>552740090they already nerfed them. they are in a good place now.
>>552740090Coyote will be gutted a second time before AH even thinks about nerfing the actual meta primaries
>>552739782I say this with complete seriousness: the S&P should go back to having 1 APbut they should quadruple the amount of pellets per shot
>>552740172Nope, still grossly overtuned.
>>552731192>underbarrel flamethroweri love it
>>552740257It doesn't get any more meta than Coyote, friendo. We knew it was going to be overpowered and overpicked as soon as the stats leaked.
>>552739489another update because i suck at regex/tr[o0][o0]+n/i;boards:vg/saa+r/i;boards:vg
>>552740385>newest weapon is actually good and gets used a lot>NERRRRRRRF ITthis is why HD2 is dying
what's with the pubbies and their laser weapons?shit man, Sickle/Dickle users can't kill shit at all nine times out of ten and after dumping their baggage of enemies onto me/other teammates, draining half the squad reinf in the process, they just leave with nothing to show for it. outside of /hdg/ lobbies I have yet to see anyone not suck ass with them.
>>552740385every time someone links this site I remind them that this is LESS THAN 1% OF THE PLAYERBASE it's a crawler bot that joins and leaves lobbies randomly and records shit people are using.this is like taking 5 people from detroit, seeing that 4 of them are white and 5 are upstanding citizens and saying confidently that detroit is a great place and everyone is nice and 80% white
>>552740578Surely the bot would take a few thousand samples. no one can be THAT retarded.
>>552740493>>552740578Desperate buffnigger cope. You continue to be absolutely clueless. What an embarrassment.
Do you execute SEAF soldiers for friendly fire? Every time the blue helmet 'accidentally' frags me, or shoot at me, while I am engaged in CQC, I slowly aproach the culprit, and then deliver the lead judgemend between their eyes.
>>552740670oh my sweet summer child.
We need more support weapons like the epoch and minigun that come with at least 3 downsides for every strenght
>>552739489>/izzat/i:boards:vgwe have a new slang for squiddivers?
>>552740827>Saar! Moar bloat nobody is gonna use!
>>552740845Izzat hit /hdg/ like crack hit black neighborhoods
>>552740845no it's some stupid pajeet slang that people here think it's an insult
>>552740949>>552740827At least it's not as bad as arc thrower or sterilizer
>>552740670>>552740762
Got four people, finally, to be open to killing a Hive Lord.What do we all take and do to kill it as soon as possible?
>>552741195Thanks for pointing this out to my blind ass. There's also recency bias to consider if the data was collected around the time of coyote release. We should kill all retards NOW.
>>552741418Secondary: ultimatumBackpack: supply backpackStratagems: Autocannon mech, Strafing run, support weapon of choiceGrenades: ThermitesFocus as much firepower on one belly plate as possible.
>>552741418Strafing run, gatling barrage, anti-tank support weapons. You'll find that it's actually a trivial enemy, just a particularly large one with a huge hp pool.
We're gonna have to rename it to Copeyote. It's currently still the highest dps primary, downright, with a huge gap to second place, any faction. Using it is metaslave behavior. And it goes without saying that nerfs are necessary.
>>552741427here's the most recent one for bugs, though the coyote is still top usage for squids and even bots.data is gathered from into the unjust 4.1 to current date, so that's only from post coyote nerf.difficulty is only from 7 to 10
>>552741786>1500 missionsthat's about the amount that happens every 30 minutesthis data is obsolete when it's taken, let alone uploadedif anyone takes this as a credible source or pointer about the meta, they are braindead retarded and probably manipulated by youtubers when they say click the bell they click the bell.
>>552741786I mostly play with /hdg/ so everyone is a slave to autism and trying to level a gun up, not that it really matters. I think the only primary you can't make-do with is constitution on squids, and that's if you don't bring a crutch dog.The supremacy of coyote really does surprise me, but it is a cool looking gun that sounds good and feels good, which also factors into it I think. Maybe the real reason AH hates it is because someone else made it and it's become a community darling?
>>552742068It's consistent with my own research which indicates Coyote is doing way too much damage. Why are you so scared of nerfs? You're playing a tactical shooter, you're not supposed to feel like a super saiyan.
>>552742173couldn't give a rats ass about coyote nerfs since I use light penI'm just saying those stats are fake
>>552741786Wait a minute this is for booogs, data ignored.
>>552742368They're real enough. Copetroons ITT only pretend otherwise because their delusional ramblings regarding meta are being contradicted.
>>552742470they're fake as fuck.200 niggers in a trooncord submitted their mission setup screencaps and someone compiled it tier data.you'd instantly deny it if you knew that the source was reddit and not organic games
>>552742670It's curated from random quick matches. (You) are as bad at reading as you are at dispassionate analysis. Just accept that you don't know shit.
>>552742813redditor cope. your trooncord clique got exposed and now you can't back up your shitty claims.seethe, redditoid.
>>552742813>curatedSo it's fake. Thanks for your concession.
>>552742670>200 niggers in a trooncord submitted their mission setup screencaps and someone compiled it tier data.you can literally see the collected data on the website that they used to create the usage rate graphs
>>552742964Nah, it gives a pretty good indication on which primaries are overtuned+overused. Coyote is the metaest meta gun in the history of meta.
>coyote pick rate: 25%>coyote win rate: 25%ITS OP GUYS BEST GUN GUYS TRUST ME IS GOOOOOOD GUN NEED NERF LAMAO
>>552742996>Coyote is the top weapon across all factions except squid D10 (Eruptor)>Thermites hands-down most-picked throwable>Orbital laser also dominating stratagem picks and top-picked on bots by a country mileJust when I thought I could not have a lower opinion of p*bbies
>endless bufftoddler seetheis this all /vg/ is now? What happened to telling niggers to git gud?
>>552743023it's a very bad indicator. see this post>>552740578
>>552743161Thermites are still the only unequivocally good throwable. There was a time when all throwables sucked and absolutely everybody would just pick the one with the most utility (stuns) because everything else was a slot waste. If thermites got deleted today we'd go back to that, maybe with a few outliers picking gas nades (which are also just not very good).
>sampling biasnot refuted>less than 1% sample sizenot refuted>not true random samplenot refuted>no winratesnot refuted>outdated informationnot refuted>cycle out older samplesnot refutedthis website indicates NOTHINGonly retards will believe this. this is about as credible as me saying something here like ALEXUS DIED IN A CAR ACCIDENTand then people will believe it without question and start popping champagne
>>552742996Nta but it's still 0.00001% of missions completed in an hour
>>552743504now that's what I call cope
there's zero reason that the pelican can't be a stratagem to provide overwatch for a small period of timeit's functionality is already there when you're calling in extract & vehicles so why not have it provide the same cover for like 20 seconds and then take off again
>>552743603>I will use cope statistics and proceed to call people who oppose me with facts and logic copers
>>552743840If you can't accept that Coyote is a grossly overtuned meta pick - again, something we saw as soon as its stats leaked - no form of proof will ever be enough for you. You are a bufftoddler, and as such innoculated against all critical thought. You're not a special snowflake. You're not good at the game. Your favorite primary is the quintessential easy modo shitter pick.
>>552743805there's a reason though? rhymes with 'weden'
stop looking at spreadsheets and play the damn game, dorks
>>552743805Dedicated vtol gunship stratagems would be super kino. An ideal version to me would look like gaylo's sparrowhawk.
I choose to believe faggots ITT are just baiting and are not actually genuinely this fucking retarded and obstinate but I know that's very low odds.
>>552744010I agree with you the coyote is OP but I think you're retarded and stupid and your source is bullshit and you don't play the game. You're a nigger and the coyote is OP. You are a stupid gorilla retard sheep brained nigger but the coyote is OP.
>>552744067>play spreadsheet game>complain about spreadsheets
>>552741579I threw a fuckton of thermites on the bottom plate and didn't even see a crack. What's the point?
>>552744209So what are you mad about? Just the website? I think it's commendable of players to substitute for the stats that the swedish niggers clearly have but refuse to publish. Even if the result will never be perfect or even 100% representative.
>>552744480>I threw a fuckton of thermites on the bottom plate and didn't even see a crack.it has 50,000 HP. you need to throw 25 of them to break it
>>552744494what are you talking about?it's not even 1% accurate. it can't even fart in the direction of credible source.this is like starting a rumor that pistols deal double damage to bile titan underside and people would en masse start using pistols fully believing this garbage.YOU ARE one of the guys who's using the pistol on bile titans.
>>552744708It's quite accurate. Are you mad that we got info and can discuss meta on more than just guesswork+feelings? What the hell else would this general be for?
>>552744480You need to throw everything he just listed, not only the thermites
>>552744773it's not even close to being accurate. you are talking out of your ass.your info is basically "anon AI generated 2000 helldivers loadouts" and we use that to define the meta.you will not understand this and I don't expect you to do.
>>552744906>it's not even close to being accurate.how do you know? where's your information that refutes the information presented?
>>552744708You know, as long as you sample data correctly, you don't even need to do 1% of the population as long as you get a couple thousand data points.
>>552744906It's randomized and transparent. You know fuckall about statistics and are coping profusely.
>>552744697Is that worth the slot compared to having breach clearing capacity in impacts?
>>552744980how do you know it was sampled correctly what % of this are xbox, ps and pcwhat time was the data takenhow recent is itwhat's the average level of the players?it's an unreliable sample, but that's not the issue, the issue is sheeple consider this representative of the entire playerbase just because its uploaded to a website
>>552743805>I want the Autocannon sentry, but with extra steps
>>552745101nta but I think so. Breaches were degraded to a bit of a spawnkilling exercise. At least I haven't seen a breach out of control in a very long time. So I value a means of deleting that extra stray charger higher than a breach closer / number-go-up item.
>>552745128Well you can see the statistics grouped by patch releases. I can't truly say if the scraper bot does perfect sampling, but if it's random enough and transparent in how it picks up the data, then it passes in my eyes. Past a certain point, increasing the amount of data doesn't really improve the resolution of your results.
What are you guys doing to grind super credits? Someone told me they were getting 30-50 on hive-ass worlds. Do you believe this?
>>552745342cool blue arrow mod + difficulty 1I haven't tried hive worlds. For me the most consistent result is on desert worlds, both because they seem to spawn more POIs than the average and are easy to scoot around via FRV in.
>>552745342hive worlds are great for super credit grinding because the POI layouts are almost entirely made up of ones that contain 1 to 3 non-supply item nodes. It's like if every POI was a pod, shipping crate, or bunker
>>552745338you're wrong on both countsdoes the bot only join games in progress?why are there gaps in loadouts?how many warbonds do the players own?did they actually use the stratagems?what was their weapon level? were they leveling weapons?what type of missions were they? how can you tell an extermination loadout from a normal mission?answer all of these questions and then I believe you.
I want to love this thing so badly but I just can't
The game shouldn't be solely balanced around guns. Armor passives, boosters, secondary objectives and DDS should completely change the way people play the game instead of providing minuscule stat changes and lukewarm stratagems.
>>552745510Got any proof?
>>552745338NTA but it's the opposite of transparent
I want to love this thing so badly, and I just can!
>>552744697>>552741579>>552741581Why not four people with the emancipator?
>>552745523The only good point I see here is data from extermination missions being counted.
>>552745524Good. Stop asking for Reddit stratagems
>>552745731>unprompted hostilityyou are brown
>>552745724/hdg/ does that all the time.
>>552745727legally speaking 1 good point is enough to compromise the legitimacy of the entire system.how do you know these aren't loadouts from purely extermination missions?
>>552745849>uh uh uh bwwaahhhhhYes I just called you Reddit, no need to cry
>>552735883>Swede nerfing coyote was them going back on their word just to very slightly nerf the weaponI think it's pajeet ceo fighting with swede developersDevelopers want to make shit balanced (even if they don't know how, since they don't play on difficulties higher than 5 and don't understand what makes a weapon powerful), and pajeet wants to make players happy, and they compromise on letting players have some overpowered weapons while swedes try to balance the rest of the game. Coyote was slightly more useful than other weapons and so they nerfed it. It wasn't too powerful so the nerf wasn't too bad.And the "word" means nothing when communication comes from people who don't actually design and implement the game.
>>552745982yeah and you are brown, no need to cope
>>552745886Actually trve. If exterminations take up 1/4 of operations to join on D10 and thus 1/4 of the data in random sampling, we'll see yuge skews towards stratagems that wouldn't normally be used anywhere else.I don't know how much it affects weapon pickrates either. I kneel, logicGOD. Bricks and extermination should not count.
Why is /hdg/ so racist?
>>552745867So is it the fastest?
>>552746271Because I am here.
>>552745128>what time was the data taken>how recent is it>what's the average level of the players?>>552745886>how do you know these aren't loadouts from purely extermination missions?pic related>>552745627>it's the opposite of transparentthe website provides every single fucking instance of data it uses for you to look at yourself
>>552746271Someone gotta keep the nerf indians in check
>>552746232the only data source I will ever believe is Arrowhead or an official API-based tool.helldive.live is black box shit no one knows how it works, it's literally building a castle in the swamp trying to discuss the data on there
>>552746290I think the only thing faster is dedicating your whole loadout solely to hive tyrant killing, where everyone uses gatling barrage, strafing run, supply pack, and portable hellbomb with ultimatum + thermites
>>552746401okay now show me data for a different planethuh? thought so.
>>552746401>71% of data comes from OshawnCaves and hive tyrants come with their own metas tho...
>>552746401>data from octoberlmao. roflmao even.
lobby? anyone still playing this?
>>552746770Nah, we just scream at each other here
>>552746401let's see how much of this data applies to me.d1025%lv15016% of 25%we're down to 4% of the 4000 loadouts.160 loadoutsand I still don't know if these loadouts succeeded or failed.I still don't know if these loadouts are support loadouts or killing loadoutsI still don't know if these console or pc loadouts
>>552746637over the same period the usage rate of the coyote on the bot front was 14.7% placing it as the #1 most used primary ahead of the eruptor at 11.7%. There's not a lot of hive lords and caves on the bot front yet the coyote was still the most used primary.
>>552746496How is that faster than four emancipators replacing other shit like the hellbomb?
bot lobby steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243979498039/76561198088743007
>>552747032>coyote is the most used weapon by <1% of the playerbasewhat a statement
>>552747061Optimal tyrant hunting will kill it in like 2 minutes. Ofc you can just play the game instead
>>552730085This will absolutely have some crippling downside like immediately blowing up the user and weapon if something damages the fuel tank
>>55274713614% of 1%so 0.14% of the playerbase uses the coyote
>>5527470953/4
>>552747095one more c'mon
>check out this stat site schizos are arguing about>see pic relatedyep, that's enough proof for me that it's dogshit
>>5527470954/4
>>552747621fvll
>>552747739Fake helldiver regiments are the gayest thing the community does bar none.
>>552747739>all the """""""""random""""""""""" and """"""""""transparent"""""""""""" matches are just from a discord channelYJK
>>552745342i've tried exactly once on this particular hive world and it was a miserable experience that took 3x as long because of all the fucking mud and constant bug spawns, compared to a regular planet where you might not see a single enemy until you extract.PS: my SC total for this run was a whopping zero.i just use a desert (not desert cliffs) planet and 30-50 is a typical haul anyway, at least when using a warp pack, in a fraction of the time.I'd only recommend it if normal runs are too boring for you. Assuming anon wasn't trolling and those POIs even fucking spawn SC.
>>552745261Yesautocannon on my shoulderautocannon sentry autocannon overwatch pelicanfuck it, autocannon barrage, autocannon pistol and autocannon primary too
>lobby posted>all shit flinging stops
nyes
>>552749249the host of that lobby should do us a favor and leaks all the names of the faggots that joins so we can name drop them every time they chimp out and shit up the thread
>>552749249DiscvssionGODS also actually play the game
>>552749249>you don't play the gam-ACK
>>552747917WHAT desert planets? There's only like 4
>die>the solofag on the other end of the map reinforces youWhat the fuck is wrong with these mental midgets? Do they think it's a race to see who can reinforce the fastest?Either way I shot him in his stupid face and let the retards on the other side of the map reinforce him.An equal exchange.
>spawns behind you
>>552750030Non-orbital user detected
I forgive AH
>>552750030Could've just been muscle memory and you killed a good diver for no cause.
>>552750441no one is saying this
>>552750441>check my back and see nothing>turn around to shoot other bugs>get backstabbed by ninja bugsI fucking hate ninjas.
>>552739489I added gucci and eravin some time last year and it majorly improved my browsing experience.
>>552751569I'm saying this
insane that stalkers, the supposed stealth enemy, have more of a audible cue when they're targeting you then basically any other bug enemy.
>>552751569This but chargers exclusively.
>>552751308A good diver would check map for the deceased location. Or have enough awareness to know who is nearby and who is not.Simply punching in a combination from muscle-memory because it's available is drooling retard-tier.
>>552747095GGs
>factory strider explosions just ragdoll you towards them regardless of where they landnice realism
>>552747968>autocannon pistol That's just the leaked ww1 pistol, it's the unholy combination of a luger (toggle lock) and a C96 (clip fed fixed magazine necked cartridge)
Wiki is completely fucking wrong.I just put 400 emancipator rounds into the same fucking plate on the hive retard and it never popped.
>>552753082200 rounds x 300 damage x 0.6 armor multiplier = 36k damage
>>552753082Bludd has spent 3 hours asking the thread and fighting the hive tyrant just to count his rounds and angrily report back. I have to respect the dedication.
>>552753505And then multiply that by fucking two, turboretard.
>Bugiggers can't even get 1% on OmicronLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>552753617Not how you spell blud, not how that meme format works, and I know you're not 14, so don't talk like that.>>552753649Did you forget how nothing in this game counts appropriately, only occasionally works, and is generally retarded?
>>552753082Were you doing it from 300 meters away, where damage falloff would drastically cut your damage down even further than the 35% penalty you suffer for matching armor values? And were you also hitting the side fins and the back, which have entirely separate HP pools?
>>552753740Diddy bluddd ain't cookin with that one, Unc's so chopped :sob: :sob: :sob:
>>552749817uhhhi think most of them are cliffs biomes currentlythe actual desert one i'm using now is zzaniah prime
>>552731491Oh honey, Tuesday is a red day. They'll probably get the rest of the week off as well so nothing exciting until at least next week. But that week will probably be a chill week to get going after the holidays so maybe the week after that.
>>552753817Nope. I really don't get how you haven't played the game enough to realize that it's just fucking broken most of the time.
>>552750030stop dying and you don't have these issues
I always like to think the jet brigade is just blatantly incompetent while the incineration corps actually get shit done
>>552749564EU hours its usually transquad from discord, they are all friends and there is a few more. You can avoid their lobbies by stench, they are very distinct
>>552754089i'm hearing "yes, whoops, i forgot about that"
>>552754207why do you think theyre called the JEET brigade
>>552754207Even Joel knows the jeet brigade is for jobbing. Any serious attack he prepares in advance for bots uses incels as the tip of the spear.
>>552754220none of those people are in the lobby with me
>>552754235Genuinely, I was right fucking next to the thing with both emancipators and unloaded the entire magazine.
>>552754207jet in the galactic war the jeets are an unstoppable force that will at least take 2 planets no matter what the players do while the incel corps does nothing
>>552754220none of those people are in the list'cord with me
>>552754220Some of them, some of them are, and may White Allah forgive me for this, some of them are fine people. The best, even.
>>552754436Jeets are good at offense while incels are good at defense. Liberating the magma planets took forever
>>552754207inc is so easy with flame resistant armor
>>552754864inflammable doesn't protect you from instagob shotguns
>>552742173Bullets do shit tons of damage in tactical shooters thoughbeit?
>release good gun in a battlepass that costs 10 bucks>nerf it after everyone got it over the inital hypethis feels like some sort of fucked-up marketing strategy. surely this can't be legal.
>>552755810>buying a warbond based on how good the stuff is on the day of releaseThat's not how it works.
>>552755810>i was born yesterday: the post
>>552754220dripku is a based leakGOD doe?
>>552756147>i will post 4 names i dont like>i will call them trannies
>>552753740you're just mad you can't take out a hive lord lmfao
>>552755220>OH MY GOD WHY ISN'T MY MELEE BUILD WORKING
>>552752560Who said this
>>552756386Well? Why isn't it?
>>552756242prove me wrong
>>552756734muh realismbut not enough muh realism to not sell you melee weapons for a space age shooter game
>>552726294Detonation first as it has THREE good weapons and the only AT grenade which opens up all build possibilities. After that it is really up to you. I would agree with this >>552726461charts bottom row, those three are dog shit.
>>552756734b*g players would shit their pants that something else that isn't bugs are being added to the game
>>552726461>python that highit's a D tier bond at best, the only good thing in there is the hot dog
>>552758115I havent used the hotdog yet, guard dogs give me the ick.Minigun and chainsaw are fun though.
>>552754207Incel Corps are actually dangerous.*gets instakilled by shotgun/incendiary grenade*
>>552756734Any build that doesn't focus on faction specific counter weapons is doomed to under-perform or fail once you start playing on D7 and above.Melee requires a weapon that doesn't suck (machete 200sc,) armor that doesn't suck (fiend destroyer 300sc,) and a shield. Even then, the end result is a playstyle with Skyrim-esque combat that "saves you ammo" while making you chew through stims instead.
>>552758880sex
>decide to bring Blitzer because I remember it's supposed to have stupidly good stunlock and stagger capability>it misses Pouncers point-blank and doesn't even stop Stalkers long enough to prevent them from tongue-lashing you>even when I'm standing right next to the host and should theoretically be able to actually inflict stunMan, what the fuck did they do to this thing? It feels worse than the fucking Torcher.
>>552759498It got raped by the stun (((bugfix))) shortly after the police warbond
>>552759498That thing is so ass half the time but it has saved me on the ass rape reddit planet that is covered in piss.Never bring it to bots.
Give AA sentryGive throwable mineGive guard dog emplacementGive mortar emplacementGive expendable MGGive healer drone
How do we feel about losing another nothingburger MO?
>>552760460
Huh... and the fucker can still manage to burst you enough in the chest to bleed.
how do I make playing on omicron fun? because the super-limited number of viable loadouts make this shit boring as fuck
>>552761407You know you can just play on a biome you do enjoy right?
>>552761407Currently enjoying the MMG, Lib Guard Dog, and Commando. Try that with a red and green of your choice.
>>552761407I've been running themed builds so all laser, all gas, all flame etc etc etc
what's the highest diff you (as in yourself) can solo a bot blitz and get all secondaries etc
>>552759973Imagine being able to configure dogs to act as sentries if they are still in the pod.
>>552761407Bring a hellbomb to the caves and become an hero to clear out overrun chambers
Gay swedish porn
My name is Sam Fisher
>Predator Strain only has pred hunters and pred stalkersWhat new enemy variants would you add to spice up the subfaction?
>>552763171predator shriekers, basically mini roaches
>>552762701>Dead charger or impaler corpse shields everything behind it>8 kills
>>552763171Predator charger, they lose the heavy armor but in turn can go invisible
>>552763171Predator Scavenger
>>552745443>cool blue arrow modGot a link? How do I install that with Arsenal mod manager?
>>552762718That's just called Swedish porn.
so the liberator carbine is just the best gun in the game right
>enter stalkers nest>6 support weapons laying aroundStalkers on omicron do be eating good, uh
>>552764397Amendment is number one.
>>552764397AR-2
>joel setting up the next epic nailbiter loss against bots on magma worlds for the stealth warbond drop on thursday
>>552751870there was a time they were silent but people complained
>>552763171Predator Titan, it's half the size of a regular Bile Titan with 75% of the HP and AP3 weak spots, but can sometimes gallop like a Charger and perform 100 meter leaping bounds to close the distance.
>>552730085>Have to stand still while firing>Takes up backpack slot>Same amount of ammo as a normal flamethrower but 3 times faster RoF that's not really useful because of dogshit accuracy meaning you'll deal the same damage while burning through ammo fasterOn the upside:>Don't have to reload! Yay!!!Judging by what they did with the minigun.
>>552763171none, make a new subfaction
The torcher is such a piece of shit primary. You have to cook an overseer for over half a tank to kill it. That's with constant direct fire damage being applied. Why are swedes like this?
>>552766923It's only niche is giving dogs belly rubs.
>>552764749>He thinks we're getting the new bot missions and stealth warbond soon>He doesn't know the entire month will be dedicated to bugslop filler MOs so we can turn a random planet into a black hole PNG on the Galactic map
>>552766923Most primaries are pieces of shit. Besides lib carbine I can't say I actually enjoying using any others.
>>552767660the definition of a "you" problem
I think I'm done with hive worlds for a bit. Even if it, it spawns all the waves so far away the objective is done before they arrive.
>>552768034Meanwhile oil extraction and flag missions get insane patrol spawns
>>552767639pilestedt was talking about how cool the stealth missions are in his interview 2 weeks ago, which puts it on the swede time release schedule
>>552768559great more untested, incomplete swede jank that will be fucked up upon release and will come pre-nerfed and unfun
Every fucking time i see some belongs on D2 fag complaining about melee being bad on Reddit it makes me want to go and behead him with an actual SabreMelee is the most thing in the game right now and if they cry for buffs and it gets even more stagger that causes me to have to run up to enemies after every swing even more often i am literally going to chimp the fuck out
>>552761407MO is already washed, literally zero shame in going somewhere else.
>>552769126maybe don't spend time on reddit then you faggot
>>552769126I wanted to say it's the most KINO thing in the game right now FUCK >>552769181I enjoy the pain
should i play squids today? i'm bored with bugs and i'm not playing fire bots
>>552769126>cattroon>on reddit
>melee is the most KINO thing in the gameContrarianism is a mental illness.
>>552768034it's just broken swedish trash that they refuse to acknowledge... it's time to let go anon
>>552769503I maintain a large folder dedicated to nothing but reaction images that I use depending on the occasion and how drunk I am at the moment
>>552768559Haven't some anons in here played it on private servers already? They should know how the missions are
>>552769892There is at least one anon that has been running around in the stealth warbond armor and blowing up shit with the C4 at least since November
>>552766923>The torcher is such a piece of shit primary. You have to cook an overseer for over half a tank to kill it.I just walked up to a heavy base and torched an overseer, fleshmob, and flying cunt in a single tank. What's your excuse?
>>552769892I played a few with russian hacker anon.I wouldn't really call them stealth though.Just blocks you from calling stuff in so you pick mostly blue strats.
>>552746339that's a man, man.
>>552770314What about that threat meter? Or was that not available in the version you played
>>552771410I don't remember it being a thing, but i can't imagine it being impactfull since the missions were about blitz sized.So i imagine that when they come out people will just blitzkrieg it instead of playing it stealth.
What did they do to the cookout this thing feels awful to useKilling an alpha commander takes ages and it barely sets anything on fire anymore
>>552730085Seeing as the maxigun is a shit HMG, this will probably be a shit flamethrower with the only upside being that you don't have to reload. Either that or they give it a stun/stager but make it light pen, cause Sweden.
>>552773725>maxigun is a shit HMGit's an upgraded MMG actually.
>>552773725The Pacifier is a whopping medium pen with stun and look how well that gun turned out.
>>552769892They were really fun but I get why they'd delay it for so long. Stealth mechanics barely work, the threat meter was such a non factor that >>552773209 doesn't even remember it (even when it when up all the way I didn't really notice a difference in bot resistance) They basically just played like a mission where you didn't have access to stratagems. Every match would probably boil down to just dumping a shit load of blues at spawn then going to find the abandoned hellpod objective to get more reinforces before finishing the map normally. Casuals would've hated it and hdg would've rightfully called it pretty shallow but it's a neat enough gimmick that I do hope they get released one way or another.
>>552747202So basically useless on every front because enemies are programmed to spawn behind you
>>552773959I wonder if this structure of mission is what they're also using to test out that rogue-lite mode they've mentioned not long ago
>>552725406makes it sound like you are afraid of D11 exclusively because it would give people an excuse to shittalk you
>>552774630Indians hate the idea of a hard game, because if there is a chance to lose the mission there is a chance to lose izzat.
>>552774050not noticing enemies approaching you from behind is not the same as them suddenly spawning out of nowhere behind you
what the fuck is this swigger code fuckery with dual monitors? i full screen the game and it can STILL flick to the other monitor I've tried everything fucking fix i could think of i even installed a program to lock my cursor to one screen and it STILL DOES IT HOW HOOOOWW?!!?!?!?
>>552775098i dont think i've ever run into this on my setup. what windows are you running?
>>552775098it only happens while you have the stratagem menu open iirc
>>55277529211 unfortunately i swear it just appeared on my machine one day even after i told it to never update so i just suffer now but i don't remember if it was happening before >>552775468WRONG it happens completely randomly sometimes it only happens once a match sometimes it happens 5 times and it probably accounts for a 3rd of my deaths
>>552775683oh yes and i forgot to mention its not just that it will flick to the other monitor sometimes my cursor will flicker on the main screen over the game it cant click anything but its there i can see it for like split second at a time
>>552775683nah, it has a reason. its not random.stop coping and seething and figure out when it happens.when i had that issue it only happened when i had the stratagem menu open.
>>552775683so my best guess without thinking too hard is: is it possible you are hitting alt+tab?but yes this >>552776332 anon is right, there's -something- making it happenregardless of the above have you tried closing everything but HD2 before launching?
>>552775098this stopped happening to me when I switched to fullscreen mode instead of borderless window
>once again the only thing worth looking forward to is the buggy launches of slopbonds
>>552769796>I'm le drunk!No one cares you no personality fag. Do you also have "420" in your name?
Didn't they "fix" the launching corpse bug? When did they break it again?
>>552778095it's the SOVL refusing to give up
>>552773323they nerfed fire across the board because the AR-2 Coyote was too strong with incendiary ammo
>>552778095they've never fixed anything in this game bro
I feel no reason to swap out of the Double Freedom. Whenever I do, just for variety's sake, it feels bad.
>>552773323while they did nerf fire, the cookout has always sucked at killing alphas. one of light pen's bane, especially true for ap2 shotguns.
>>552779989Enjoy it while you can, nerf soon
>>552773323Indirect Coyote nerf. They couldn't nerf Coyote directly after reddit pre-emptively cried about it, so they just nerfed fire.
>>552780163because faggots cried and begged them not to nerf the Coyote so they said they wouldn't touch the coyote....but the nerfed fire instead. Because that's what these swedes do.... they fuck you every chance they get.
This is hard.
>>552779440True. Unless it benefits the player in some way.
>>552780190nta but why would they nerf that gun? haven’t used it myself but it doesn’t look that impressive esp when compared to explosive weapons
>>552781042Sorry too many players use it, also it's op because it just is okay
>>552781042Because it kills things up close. Doesn't matter it is awful for large numbers of enemies, it KILLS THINGS!
>>552780190Double freedom is under powered frankly
>>552780662>on scale of 1 to 10, 5 is considered hard and not mediumIs the modern ego-driven gamer truly this bad at video games that we need to adjust the scale to make them feel better? Im tired of the fucking coddling.
>>552770147Probably wasn't host for the double damage
>>552781381In the future "defeat" will be replaced with "2nd place".
>new year>game still crashes if I press the Exit buttonSweden...
>>552781381wait until you hear about vanity sizing for clothing, my man
>>552781042Guns with technically infinite ammo >>>>>>>> guns that can kill enemies without friendly fire >>>>>>>> guns that can stun enemies >>>>>>>> guns that are good in close quarters - guns people like >>>>>>>> actual shitter crutches that can cause friendly fireThis is how Arrowhead decides what to nerf, take a guess where explosive weapons go
>>552759498It got its stun build up quartered
>>552756386They can one tap you from 50 meters. Even Alexus when prompted was surprised by this.
>>552781042It has no major glaring flaws and its downsides can be mitigated by other weapons. Thus making it better than 70% of primaries.
>>552781684>game still launches in borderless window no matter how I try to force it
Want functioning melee AND being able to shoot stuff?Go play Darktide.
>>552762823my name jeff
>>552781684>turning on AA makes your FPS better somehow
>>552781042you're assuming that there's rhyme or reason to what AH nerfs. there isn't.these retards nerfed stun by 280% with a (((bugfix))) when stun was already an extremly niche status effect that almost nobody used
>muh meleejust shoot your gun you fucking dork
>>552782445>its downsides can be mitigated by other weaponsThat's how AH balances desu, they want you to swap weapons all the time
>>552782609Is that true anon or are you just bullshitting I've been eating jaggies for the past couple months ever since they broken AA to look absolutely horrendous
give me an ulti primary so I can use the senator more
>>552782494I did it was actually pretty fun. The game was more challenging too, but it mostly felt more challenging because our builds weren't meta and we didn't have 500 tier gear with a gorillian modifiers and damage reducers.Also the gunplay while cool felt a bit clunky. Something about headshotting things felt off.
>>552782635Eravin probably used it, so fuck him.
I can't imagine bringing AP2 to missions anymore. I've just had to kill 20 hive guards every patrol
>>552782829Pistol armor really needs to give more ammo.
>>552782692There's a very fine line between >weapon having downsides encouraging weapon switching and >weapon having downsides encouraging just not using it
>>552783147>he doesn't know to aim between the armor or underneath LOL
>>552783294>t. D4 shitter
>>552783246I agree. Big reason I hate fags that say they use the constitution then fun like recoiless and 3 anti chaff reds
>>552782651Make me, doofus.
>>552782445looked at the wiki and see 2 glaring flaws right away. Only 2 shots before reload and it has very little max ammo. It looks bad to use against most enemies the game throws at you. Also bringing a chaff clearing secondary means u can’t bring ge or ultiidk just doesn’t seem that good to me. at least not nerf worthy anyway
>>552783147Usually I've got a grenade, support, or red for that. Ap3 doesn't do jackshit now either. >Oh you took a third of your mag to kill one congrats!
>>552783648lol watare you just spraying in the general direction of the enemy?
Why does this game make me seethe for no reason? It's just small stuff but I always stop playing more agitated than when I started. Also I've hit a medal wall with my progression so I'm not even getting those hits of unlocking new stuff regularly anymore. Not to mention that after 75 hours it's hard to get excited about unlocking new warbonds because these devs hate fun so everything left is just a sidegrade from what I already have. Honestly I can see why this game's community has gotten so toxic after dealing with several years of this bullshit.
>>552783648>grenadeDoes jack shit usually and runs out in seconds>supportIs necessary for chargers or whatever else rather than fucking hive guard>redUseless in the cavesOmicron is fucking hell.
>>552783717Takes 8 shots with abjud no?
>>552783764Because Arrowhead designed it that way. They unironically said weapons feeling like shit is part of their balance philosophy.
>>552783921Oh omicron. I just take shit like flamethrower and kill everything. Punisher for stalkers for obvi reasons.
>>552783993head takes four to five
>>552784006That makes sense in a weird retarded way. You can really tell they hate fun. These fucking primary reloads getting stalled and cancelled drive me nuts it's one of the stupidest and least intuitive mechanics in a shooter I've ever played. What shocks me the most is that this game has such a high playercount after all this time.
>>552783717If you're able to aim then you're better off with AP2.
>>552777728Have you considered that at this point suicide might be the best thing to happen to your eternal soul you faggot?
>>552784516>better off with AP2Look at this literal retard...
Any lobbies? I do not trust randos on Omicron. Not even the 150's are always able to lock in when timmy shows up.
>>552784680That is the case anon, if you can aim with the current way durability is handled AP2 is better in basically 90% of cases. You bring AP3 when you can't aim.
>>552784680>shoot the claws>hive guard dieswow
>>552784807>>552784837>he doesn't know that AP scaling works on durable damage tooOh no...Oh no no no...
>>552784837>to quckly kill the enemy, shoot it in the hands instead of any vital organsbut muh realism
>>552784910Anon we have the raw numbers on this, when hitting weakpoints a liberator outperforms the libpen in all situations.
>>552785063The libpen is a special kind of trash, anon...
>>552784640That's your end game alchy not mine.
double freedom should have the option to make it sawed off so you can use it with one hand like in HD1also it should be incendiary
>>552785153Lib pen outperforms most other AP3 weapons though...
>>552784837imagine trying to carefully aim at their feetsies like a retard while there are warriors and alphas rushing you. you'd never be able to build up space
>>552785261Wrong, and by a lot.
for me its bring gun, point gun at creature and empty gun gun is pretty good despite the compalints
>>552785283why are you shooting the most passive, defensive bug in the roster when alphas and warriors are coming at you?
>>552785283unironic honest to god skill issue
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244024424842/76561199586955078
I thought libpen was really good.
>>552784479Staged reloads are pretty common in shooters. Have you tried not being a shitter?
>>552785685it's a shitter's magdump weapon of choice>drum mag>gives red hitmarkersnothing else matters
>>5527856613
>>552785661failed, fvll?
>Join game that already has 3 150s.>One spearfag, a quasar, and chainsaw.>Take RR because where's the fucking AT?>Stroll out of pod.>Skull symbol with a BT stomping near it.>The other two are running from THREE BTs.Reminder level means nothing after whatever unlocks everything. I have D10 games withh level 30s that are easy because everyone sticks together and has actual AT. With 150s you get these meme build and solo fags.
>>552786057fvll indeed
>>552785821Have you tried not slurping swedish cock? Reloading in this game feels terrible.
>>552785454>Sidesteps in front of bug hole in your path.
>>552785821>Press R>Character doesnt reload for no reason>Spam R>Character finally reloadsThis games reload mechanics are fucking trash by design.
>Load into a mobile extraction mission >First thing you see as you're watching the hellpod drop loading animation, is "B3's hellpod landed on the gator and destroyed it." pop in the chat window.Never a good sign.
>>552785893>red hit markersWat?
>>552786261>Take RR because where's the fucking AT?>a quasarWhat did he mean by this?
>>552786548>Asking bugchasers to not be retards
>>552785661I missed the furdiver lobby in a quickplay where the random took the truck for himself and flipped it over fml
>>552786573do you play the game? like, at all?
>>552786261>where's the fucking AT?>mentions that all three brought AT weapons Really odd post.
>>552786609>>552786831not to mention the inevitable ultimatums and thermites
>>552786609Quasar can't hack it on D10 OhIcum.
>>552786786NTA but I've noticed the majority of my fellow divers are very unobservant
>>552786261>quasar, spear, and chainsaw are all AT>this guy thinks there's no AT and so brings a 4th ATUh...
>>552787152it can if you're not stupid
>>552787152you can count the number of bug heavies encountered over the entire course of a D10 mission on one and a half hands these days
>>552787152>can one shot everything>don't need to stand still to reload It's one of the best options, what do you mean?
>>552783147takes like 6 bullets with liberatorskill issue
>>5527856613 one got bored
>>552787683>need to wait 3 seconds to shoot>can't kill more than 1 enemy every 18 secondsIt's the sidewheels of AT, easy to use because it has no bullet drop and you don't need to think about ammo/call ins, but you lose the ability to instantly deal with multiple threats.
>>552783147Become autocannon pilled. It oneclaps hive guards if you got aim, is also strong at chaff clear, some utility against big bugs, allows you to be very flexible in your other picks.
>>552788432Rapes bug objective aswell, from simple bug holes to shrieker nests.
>>552788398I can't stand it on D10 bugs because if anything sneezes on you it can throw your shot off. Maybe unflinching would be useful.
>>552789173shield pack is a natural compliment to the quasarunless you're going to let faggots in this thread deter you from using it because "muh diaperpack"?
>"Don't get to game much before the kids are in bed. Let's make this operation count!">"Yup, D8 really is the ideal difficulty. Anything more feels needlessly stressful.">"Grabbing the cay-yote. Love the way this thing sounds lol.">"Wish they'd revert the auto cannon nerf.">"500kg! Get down!">"Oops. My bad, I'm still a bit tired after work.">"Hope we get a tank or a flyer later on. It would be so cool.">"Oh, someone leaked the next warbond? Might make me wanna reach for my wallet lol.">"Yeah, gaming is fun from time to time. But it's better to go out with friends in real life, ain't it?">"Brb, guys. The missus' calling."
>Random post about bot lava worldsDid they forget to post this before going on vacation?https://x.com/helldivers2/status/2008277606903263563
>>552788398no it is a bell curve weapon and you're in the middle thinking you're at the top of the mountain>need to wait 3 seconds to shootthere's nothing stopping you pre-charging it when you think you might need it, checking your peripherals and then swinging onto target when it finishes. aborting a shot has no penalty>can't kill more than 1 enemy every 18 secondsyou have other weaponsthere's always other things that need killing, being able to actually use them immediately with no dead time reloading is a strength of the quasar, not a weakness. if you're doing other shit that 18 seconds feels really shortit's also a team game and everyone else has ATand whenever you need to defend a point for a while you can call down a second one and juggle them to half that anywayit depends on the opfor/mission but "quasar is bad for D10" is very microbrain>>552789173yeah I don't like it as much for bugs unless i've seen everyone else's loadout and think going more mobile might help (and feel like it)
Well good one dive I guess.
>>552788432I am an ACgod yes, but I also sometimes want to use fun backpacks or need to fill the AT role.
>>552789451I encounter them on D10 all the time of I play on Friday/Saturday night.>Open Mic>Kid squealing in the background.> "Heeeey buddy keep it down dad's gaymin!"They are always accompanied by their cuck friend who is obviously kid free and talked them into playing.
>>552790101wanted to change my mods anyway, and i was getting bored myself too
>>552790182fair. I wish they made a backpackless support weapon or primary with autocannon functionality.
>>552790302grenade launcher is the closest, I believe it's S-tier, with a warp pack you can even down bile titans quite reliably and quickly
>ac>can't take GOD DOG with youyeah, I'll pass the auto dilation izzat generator
>>552789568Little late on that. We still have 3-4 weeks of bug filler MOs
For AC users do you normally run PP(heh) with it or is it not that beneficial?
>>552789606I'm sorry, but your in the middle bell curve here buddy.Heavies are generally speaking the most dangerous enemy, and they often spawn in short burst togheter.RR or EAT taking out 2 or 3 in a few seconds frees you up to easily mop up the chaff.And pre charging your quasar and then not shooting just means you're wasting time.
>>552790589it's just good QOL but not necessary
>>552790582guard dogs are among the few backpacks I approve of since they directly increase your dps and make the mission be over sooner, however I hardly think you need em.
>>552790217on my third ever game i wound up on a squad with a bunch of australians on mic and immediately turned voice off forever.every time i play i think about what a great decision that was
So what is this 1-2 glitch I've just heard of. It isn't using animation canceling to shorted staged reloads is it?
>>552790589I pick fortified and pray I see the enemy before they see me
>>552790589It's good but i reached a point where it doesn't do that much forme anymore.
>>552790625>no usure thing man>RR taking out 2 or 3 in a few secondsokay now i'm certain you don't actually play this game
>>552790753>AustraliansI would have pretended I was one too and shit talked. All I ever encounter is mexicans and toads. No one else uses the mic.>Howseeeegoin yah coonts?>Keep givin me trouble and I'll thrash yah
>>552790962Your reload animation cancel sir?Or your team reload?
>>552791309>Or your team reload?okay now you DEFINITELY don't play this game
>>552791413You don't play with /HDG/.
>>552791492NTA but I play with hdg and we only team-reload autocannons never RRs
>>552785661Hey jetpack bro. What loadout were you using to carve out that 500+ kills? Was it from the hell from above fighting or were you the one throwing the orbital barrages?
>>552790217Love when they start casually conversing because they clearly don't have any other means of VC outside of phone calls. Unironically had two gamer dads speculating about Q Anon and Alex Jones a month ago or so>>552790753>instantly filtered by aussie bantsType of anti-social behavior that ruined online gaming
>>552791309>Or your team reload?ah, the cool feature literally nobody has ever usedwhy the fuck are you larping in a general after watching a handful of youtube videos anyway
>>552791724I was warp pack bro, sorry
>>552791814See>>552791492
>>552790589I enjoy fortified more because it lets you do followup shots quicker and allows you to use the gun in close quarter emergencies without risking death too much. Engineer is also a good choice onv.
>>552792080seriously which youtube video did you watch that told you that pre-charging quasars is a big waste of time while having a whole player tied up as your butt buddy makes sensealso i'd be fascinated to know how you're killing 3 heavies with an EAT calldown too
>>552792420>also i'd be fascinated to know how you're killing 3 heavies with an EAT calldown tooYou can't be this new/retard.
>>552790101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmrp2CG4MMM
>>552792532oh, please humour mebecause i know you're about to say something else retarded and i have a follow-up
>>552792695Either you carry one and call in a pod, giving you 3 quick shots.You pre stockpiled them.Or you just hellpod a heavy and then grab your 2 EATs.Now lets hear your cope.
>>552792695NTA, stick the ball on the enemyonly works for chargers though
>>552792914Works for hulks and warstriders aswell.
Was the quasar bugged a while ago? Around the time squid shitties came out. It would basically precharge and save it so you could fire instantly. Made it a lot better so I assume they "fixed" it.
>>552793154That was fixed months ago.
>>552793154Yup, that was a bug and got fixed pretty quickly.
>>552792862okay you surprised me, that's much dumber than what i thought you were going to say. nevermind, i think that speaks for itself.now i know you're going to proceed hoping everyone forgets the context of "stand on a pile of EATs" being your cool tactic that invalidates the quasar so lol in advance
>>552793464>>552793590Of course. I hate sweden. I'm going to new stockholm with 120/380/hellbomb/orbital nape and going to fuck it up for a bit.
>SAAAAR I POD THE HEAVY FOR MEGA IZZAT POINTS SAAARMeanwhile in reality>by the time the pod drops the heavy is already killed by non shit AT>when nobody is there to babysit the EATroon gets pushed off his EAT pod by chaff and proceeds to get raped by combined armsThere's a reason all the EATroons are b*tnigger discord brownoids. It's only possible on that baby faction.
>>552793821Not only that, but when they do manage to stick the behemoth with the ball (almost completely RNG), they're basically letting the behemoth decide where their EAT will land.
>>552793590>When a game bug is more interesting than the white the devs built.
>>552793717This is even more pathetic cope than i expected.
>>552794236>than the white the devs built.What?
>>552726461>pure fashion warbonds over warbonds with at least 1 good thing in them or fun sidegrades
>not taking both Quasar and EAT in the same loadout>not loving both equally as either is effective and funfaggot
>>552792570Thanks for the spoon feed. Seems like more trouble then it's worth but hey we got to find this shit before they can fi-pffhahahaha who are we kidding? This shit will be here in 4 months.
>>552794543>he doesn't know about the white the devs built
God I really wish this gun was better. It looks so sexy
>>552795238>You can't have a drum mag on this gun because... Because you just can't okay?!
>>552794494>no u>self quote>copelemme just scroll up aand oh yeah you just said a bunch of dumb shit and nobody else has agreed with you at any point, that's rightwhat a rough thing for me to have cope with indeed
>>552795238A tier gun though.
>>552795238it epitomizes its warbond as thoroughly meh and quite skippable, well at least it was until purifier became the top1 most loved plasma weapon but that still doesn't do this piece of shit any favors
>>552795238It's a great gun though, not the best, but good on all fronts.
>>552795606I agree with anon though. EAT is excellent. But so is Quasar. I don't consider either a replacement for the other as they have different roles. Quasar is the dedicated AT leaving your back open, which is absolutely valid on any front. But EAT can do zero slots. It's an AT supplement that fits into truly any loadout, even if you're already stacked with blue items, even Quasar. Nothing speaks against using both, in the same loadout even.
>>552794713Who are you replying to?
>>552795867>>552795610I just can't believe it man, it's 'technically' got better DPS than the Liberator, but half the total ammo, longer reload and shorter magazine, and for what benefit really? All the light pen monsters you can kill already die so quickly to anything.
>>552796367The biggest benefit is the recoil, the gun is a fucking laser when you modify it to lower recoil.It's the best light pen weapon against medium/heavy pen enemies with light pen weakpoints.
>>552796367That's why I like using siege ready with it
Lust provoking image deployedlobby decides factionsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775244033728739/76561198141964882
>>552796645It packs enough punch (which combos greatly with the recoil) to laser down other soft points like legs aswell.
>>552796813I knew it. I literally just queued into a quickplay and IMMEDIATELY a lobby is posted... you guys are watching me...
>>5527968133/4!
>>552796887you owe nothing to pubbies anon. Ditch em' and join us
>>5527968133/4dropping in in 5 MINUTES!!!!!!!!
>>552796813FVLL!!!timer ALWAYS works
what's his fucking problem?
>Decide to join>Hear some indian screaming at bugs>He dies>"REDEEM THE REINFORCEMENT BLOODY BITCH!!!">Reinforce him and start running to where he dies to help him get his stuff>"NOOOOO!!!!!! DO NOT KILL THE BUGS! DO NOT KILL!!!!">Kill them anyway>"NOOO!!!!! MY IZZAT!!!! WHY DID YOU DO THAT YOU BITCH!!!">He tks me then kicks meBack to bots it is.
>Payday 2, 2013>you can modify every part of this shotgun down to the color of your laser sight and might as well put a fucking 4x scope on it if you want lol>Helldivers 2, 2024>we can't give this weapon an expanded magazine because it might make it not shit. Also grind to level 22 if you want ironsights on your shotgun, I guessFurther proof that being sw*dish isn't what's holding AH back. They are just uniquely joyless and retarded.
>Join bots>Rap music playuing over open mic>Drop in>"ay luk at dis niga">He randomly tks me>"ha ha stupid azz beetch">kicks meAlright. Squids it is
>>552795238this gun can solo a flesh mob in one clip. put the shit on highest fire rate and unload on the fucker
>Join squids>Everyone is speaking french while someone over mic is using some audio program to play some audio of some anime girl getting plapped>At least Im not kicked
>>552795238Isn't the battle rifle considered the best all around weapon in halo history? I don't really think it needs to be "better."
>>552796367it works well as a head tapper botside but you have no real reason to prefer it to Diligence
>die to unstimmable chest woundah should have played better.
>>552799053>getting an unstimmable chest woundshould've played better
>>552793590What's this? It makes the weapon better and even fits ARs stupid le crazy weapon theme? Better fix it!
>>552799053>In a shitshow and charge forward because everyone else is being too passive>Pre-Stim>Get hit while the stim is still active and healing>Stim effect fades>Phantom chest bleedout because Arrowhead cant playtest for shit>No stims>DieCool
>>552794543Swedish autocorrect. Auto cuckwrecked.
>>552799284>No stims>DieThe game does work that way
>>552799569>Missed out the part where I died because of bleedout bug
>>552799652Fight bots or squids then
>>552799734I was fighting bots in that particular scenario.
>>552798225>Payday 2, 2015>you can now get paint jobs (only via using real money purchases) on your gun that increase damage by 2 making or breaking the metashut the fuck up you dumb fucking gorilla nigger, you don't know shit.
>>552796025>EAT is excellent.Nobody said otherwise, the EAT/RR chat was all in response to one retard spinning his wheels after claiming quasar cannons are unusable while spouting stupid shit about other AT. Then trying to pretend it wasn't stupid by claiming he uses them in ways that directly contradicts every point he made against quasars.
>acid grenades >Doesn't do damage but lowers the armor of whoever is in its splash zone>Instantly decreases enemy armor to lightImagine how cracked this could make some weapons
>>552798225>Payday 2, 2016>sorry guys all assault rifles now do the same damage have the same reload speed and recoil and spread.>sorry guys all shotguns now do the same damage and have the same reload speed and recoil and spread>we thought it would be better for everyone if all the guns were the same and we had no variety in gunplay.no, it's sweden. it's not just AH.
>>552800315Why stop at grenades?
>>552800426I need it, buddy!
>>552800426>>552800536walking acid barrage
>>552798225>Also grind to level 22 if you want ironsights on your shotgun, I guessI fucking hate the grinding for sights, it's full of garbage filler you never use and AH made sure to not give any cool options that might make for fun and silly playstyles. No sniper scope for the infinite range zero recoil laser gun because fuck you. In fact you don't get anything with more zoom than the starting 2x you fucking pissing faggot.Literally every gun sight grind is something like>Starting sight>3 CQC sights with 0 zoom that are completly pointless in a TPS>an alternative for the starting sight (but probably not with the zoom you want!)>ironsI HATE SWEDEN
>>552796813zamn nice base vro
>>552798225I still remember when they finally made LMGs good, then they did >>552800335
>>552801040The best part is that they instead gave the coyote a 10x scope for some reason
>>552798225Yeah, Payday 2 was fantastic until Overkill realized that they are a swedish company and therefore they cannot have a good videogame, so they introduced pay2win weapon mods and destroyed loud gameplay with a fucking nerf wrecking ball, essentially destroying half their playerbase. Then they had the genius idea of loud-only heists which destroyed the other half of the playerbase because they tried to "win back" the players who uninstalled the game forever.Sweden needs to be fucking nuked off the face of the earth.
>>552801258>Yeah, Payday 2 was fantastic until Overkill realized that they are a swedish company and therefore they cannot have a good videogameI was surprised when I found out Overkill was Swedish. They made a genuinely fun game.
brownest general on /vg/
>>552801495/zzz/ is 2 blocks down, Amit.
>>552801495How the fuck did you miss all of the gachas on /vg/?
>>552801495/uma/ is 2 blocks to the west, Punjeet
>>552775098this always happened to me in hd2, its some swigger faggot shitcunt being unable to do proper fifth grader math.some fucking resolution has a check like cursor_position.x <= primary screen width but its at -1 or however the retards fucked the numbers. or maybe its just swigger shitcode activating the (hidden) mouse cursor recenter in an unreliable way.lossless scaling fixed it for me.
>>552801635>>552801693>>552801781case in point
>>552801495/wuwa/ is in the next building, Banjar...
>>552800315>>552800426Acid rain orbital would be fucking amazing
>>552801495How did you miss the Dragon Ball thread, Ramesh?
>>552802074Usually I don't argue shitskin debates because its a debate purely for different shades of poopoo-colored people but of all generals to have a brown population, the $40 coop game is the brownest one?
Chances of an update tomorrow?
>>552801495>game that literally fries computers because of swede enginejank
>>5528031260%swiggers are still on winter vacation
>>552803126100%end of service tomorrow
Just give me a fucking medkit armor that isn't ugly. Please.
Man why are these devs so allergic to buffing shit? The supply pack gives you near infinite ammo and stims that by the time you're out you can just call down another one for the stalwart/MMG/HMG while the maxigun is a backpack/support weapon combo that is only AP2, locks you in place, and runs out of half it's total ammo from a single patrol. I really like this weapon but it feels like they just went out of their way to give it as many drawbacks as they could for no real reason.
>>552803724Thank god, I can finally be free.
>>552805220>>552803724Youre allowed to stop playing the game whenever you want, you know.
>>552803126Not on Tuesday but Shams had to shut himself up from revealing automaton commando missions aka "stealth missions" in the interview a week ago. So it's "soon"
>>552805953Tick the box
4 more rotations until the Double Freedom is back in stock.
>>552806248honestly my favorite bug weapon in the whole game. its so fucking good
>>552805953wait this thing might actually be powerful and not supercucked? inshallah, inshallaaaah
Libpen is mai raifu and you can't convince me it's bad!If you can explain why the regular lib is better I'll try it out again.
>>552805953>at least 3 warbonds that are mostly done to fully complete>zero news, no announcements, no trailers
>>552796813gg
>>552806642They have never gained anything by interacting with the community. Every interaction has been anywhere from extremely detrimental to their image of 'dev competence' or at best neutral.
>>552806458Libpen is a boring bullet hose with low damage. Base liberator does 90 damage and demands you aim for weak points on armored enemies making every shot count and therefore maximizes fun. Official gold gun skins when?
>>552806845Is adjudicator comparable? I like the medpen.
>>552805953>tridentOkay, predict when this thing get absolutely nerf into the ground after a series of nerf browns shitting their diapers
>>552806458>If you can explain why the regular lib is better I'll try it out again.LibPen is a defacto downgrade in almost every stat, and the relative upgrades barely matter.
>>552807103nta but since it's got such dogshit RPM and ammo then it pretty much begs for accuracy if you don't want to waste ammot. coped that Judy was good for the longest time (it's dogshit without siege ready like almost every other AR)
>>552805760be quiet little slaveboy fag
>>552807103NTA but not even close. Libpen is a very low skill floor weapon, effecively good for noobs, otherwise mediocre.The judy has a higher skill floor due to awful ergo and recoil & small mag, in exchange for much more damage(relative to the libpen, still kinda meh). If you have the skillz to operate the judy you'll find it's, in fact, very mediocre.
>>552807607>Says the person who needs his game to be forcefully taken away from him to stop playing a video gameConsider: >>552805760
>>552807103>I like the medpen (primary)Either take the Coyote pill or use the Halo AR that suffers from limited ammo.
>>552806314Anything that can instagib those fucking alpha commanders in one shot before they spawn their nigger red warriors will forever be considered god tier. People complain about the war striders being annoying, but when you only host games, you really really fucking HATE those assholes.
>>552808236Alpha commandets run away while shaking their tight little ass at you and it makes me horny
>>552807769aint readin all that lil bro just be quiet next time
Ah... that smell. IT'S A LOBBY!steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244041708906/76561198120804312D10 WHATEVER, DEMOCRACY DECIDES! I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PLAY IN TWO MONTHS!
I like NTRWhats my loadout?
>>552808652All greens so the game plays itself
>>552799652who are you quoting? he didn't say that
>>5528085013/4
>>552808470Consider: >>552807769As well as: >>552805760
>>552808848You cant read
>>552808501Full?
I miss the railgun.
>>552809730it's still there
>Objective: Just play the fucking game>Bugchasers: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HELP ME!!!!!!!
>>552809876No, it isn't. It died a long time ago.
>>552810382Twerks on my machine
Damn, I like the solo silo so much I'm thinking of taking it instead of an actual support weapon.
>>552808652All blues so you can give your allies weapons while they take reds to teamkill you
>decide to get the control group bond>trying out the epochwtf is this garbage? i thought people said it was good? only use ive found so far is for annoying shield botters
>>552811363>he buyed the epoch
>jams your red crutchesXisters....how do we cope?
>>552811473>buyed>not 'bought'
I HAVEN'T SEEN A MOBILE RADAR STATION IN 20 CAVE DIVES FUCK
Radar stations don't exist anymore due to swedish retardation, just like the mega nest layout that has a bile titan hole in the hive world.
Yo bros I was bored so I ran my kill to death ratio thru an AI to get a K/D ratio (my kills are at 141,066 and deaths are at 1,003 and I supposedly number 2 in the world on the leader boards with a K/D of ~140.64:1 (or 1:140.64 deaths-to-kills)Am I tripping or am I unironically godlike?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244045328645/76561198085764721lobby dookucides
>>5528133141/4
>>552811363>he redeemed the jeet farming warbond
>>552813932im coming you mewing quim
>>5528146762/4
>>552811363literally no one ever called it good tard boy
>>552811363It can kill Hulks and War Striders with eye shots. The explosion lets you blow up turrets by hitting them in the side and splashing the heat sink. It can open cargo container doors and blow up AA and Mortar Emplacements with a single shot. All this with more ammo than the Recoilless while not requiring an ammo backpack or reloading after every single shot. It's stupidly good once you master its quirks.
>>552815430im bad with it, therefore its bad(i have never used it)
>>552811363>Blows himself up>"WAOOWWW THIS SHIT SUCKS!!!"
>>552808652All support weapons. Call them down but only your teammates get to use them.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244045328645/76561198085764721Still 2/4 get out of this shitty general and come play this shitty game
>>552789568Stealth soon.
>regular warbond>9 pages of useful weapons, armor and equipment>'premium' warbond>3 pages of useful weapons, armor and equipment diluted with cosmetics>'legendary' warbond>3 pages of trash weapons you can't mod and cosmetics and armors you're not going to use outside of roleplaying>'epic' warbond>???
Post your favorite HD2 memes
fvll
>>552816614>'epic' warbond>you pay 2000sc to have a prerecorded message play that tells you that you DON'T need to lower the difficulty and you are, in fact, very good at the video game>and also you get a cape that isn't color matched with any other piece of equipment in the game
>>552800315>sterilizer does this now and it's actually worth using
>>552816718Ol' reliable
>>552764545>eatingbreeding >>552768034my friend quit because of caves, came back after awhile, we played caves and he quit again sayin he wont play caves ever again
>>552817782Honestly, this is THE move for the sterilizer. I've been saying it day 1. But they won't do it. It would actually be cool.
>>552817971>my friend quit because of caves, came back after awhile, we played caves and he quit again sayin he wont play caves ever againhe sounds like a bitch
>>552818052>he sounds like a bitchCaves are boring and not fun, in that specific play session we had last operation with completely fucked terrain. (entirely different between me the host and others) I think he is just done with swigger incompetence
>caves are boring and not funbotnigger moment
Trident gameplay
>>552818769yikes
>>552818769Somehow i didn't realize this before
>>552818597not even buchasers like reddit worlds
>>552818597Its good on paper but like everything they do, Arrowhead half-assed it.
>>552808501this fucking suuuuucked I had every single Behemoth on my ass 24/7 on that last mission and every time I called a mech the Hive Lord (missing for 90% of the mission) would show up and destroy it along with every dragonroach on the map going for me
>>552805953>>552818769>SAAAR PLS PLS LOOK AT SPOILER
>>552818769I can't tell, is it light pen or med pen?
>botnigger still posting his cherrypicked imagesHumiliation ritual
>>552819506it has to be false flagging at this point honestly
>https://x.com/helldivers2/status/2008277606903263563Teaser or AH being retarded swiggers and posting more nothing burgers like they usually do on the twitter
>>552819393Keep seething, i'm enjoying myself.
>>552818769>Trident gets its correct pulsed beam laserswhy couldn't we get this for Sickle in the first place? why did we ever do pseudo-laser bullets at all?
>>552819610buffGOD spotted
>>552819506>People only play reddit worlds when theres an MO for itI think youre confused at whos side youre on
>>552819720>saaaar pls look at sppiler sar im am very needful to cum plsssss
>>552819859>people don't play on worlds in the middle of fucking nowhere if there isn't an MO for itYou are shockingly retarded
>>552820002Never posted a spoiler and yet you keep seething.
>>5528133143/4
>>5528133142/4:,(
>>552820035>bugchaser aggressively agrees with me and missing the point on total accidentactual low IQ moment
>>5528133143/4:)
>>552820202>>552820002
FVLL
>It's a MOBotnigger cope.If it wasn't fun, people wouldn't be playing during MOs either. A single look at any filler squid MO destroys you argument completely.
>>552819487med pen
>>552821003So where were all the people before the MO?
is the slugger really dogshit or am I dogshit
>>552821328>were do bugnigga bedey wuz busy
>>552821432Its like ok. It used to be really good, then they knee-capped it to shit, buffed it a couple times and here we are.
>>552821432A bad artist blames his toolsanon-sama I don't like it either
>>552733369>Because the starting pistols are boring.the Uzi-esque pistol pretty useful for clearing minefields
>>552821003>A single look at any filler squid MO destroys you argument completely.>Bugnigger btfo's himself on accident>againPick a side, nigga. Youre only proving him right.
I play on D8
>YOU GOT BTFO YOU GOT BTFO SAAAAROkay Rajeesh. It's time to wrap it up and go to the call center.
Has anyone ever noticed the botnigger responds with actual arguments and the bugniggers just respond with jeet-posting?Why is that?
anyone else remembering that time Gucci casually posted a 3D malediver getting fucked in the ass by an actual ingame bug after a bunch of prior cuckoldry infused BUG'd posting for tens of threads on end? it's not just me, right?
>>552817980would be nice. Leaving gas clouds in the spray would be useful too. Either one would make for a fun utility optionIdk if AH just isn't going to modify the sterilizer though or if they've just been working on other stuff
i think you're both fucking faggotsthis fake elitism over playing particular faction in an easiest horde shooter on the market is laughableyou aren't even genuine, you're just epicly trolling each other
>>552822363>bugnigger accidentally makes fun of himself with his own imagethis nigga has to be jerking his shit. aint no way this shit isnt a fetish
>>552724415this game was fun for like five minutes
>>552822016Good for you anon. People should play the difficulty that feels the best for them. Nobody fucking cares if you dive 10s or 6s. I'd rather have that than fucking level 22 shitters invading my 10s to only to die 10 times because they want free medals and xp.I often play 9s because i hate doing mega nests with randoms, and also you get more POIs than 10s and so more chances to get super credits.
>>552822651Not even elitism. Just a botnigger laughing at hive worlds being unpopular and a bugnigger spazzing out because he needs to defend his izzat.
>>552822728Disagree but ok
>>552816614>premium warbond>3 pages of useful weapons and armorlmao. I think one, DD, meets that criteria.
>>552816614Most warbonds only have 1 or 2 actually good items lol
>So raped he's just samefagging nowSay thank you to gook moot and Vishnu that this shithole doesn't have IDs
>>552822987well you are trans ofc youd be obsessed with it
>>552823387Finally, some quality posting.
>>552823421>come to a game's general>call people who play the game tranny because he doesn't enjoy it himselfmeds, now
Caves should have had their own mini/baby chargers. Only need to use medium pen but they have a shit ton of HP and are fast. This would make the canvas unique and give the maxipad a place to shine.
>>552823672ok tranny
>>552823387holy fuck it actually took 90 days for python commandos? that's grim as fuck
>>552823771they used that time to fix the game anonlmao
Do you insufferable faggots do anything but fling shit at eachother all day? When was the last time you actually discussed the fucking game?
>>552823882Nothing to discuss right now besides leaks, but then you post leaks and some autistic cunt starts screeching.
>>552823882I play the game and don't post in the general unless I have something to say.
>SAAR YOU FLING SHIT AT ME SAAR!!!
>>552824228>some autistic cunt starts screechingThat's the response to anything. Now you've also got pakis of some other browns posting indian shit constantly. I would love to see flags retroactively added to every post so we can see their shithole flags.
>join hiveworld mission for closing bug holes up>two people are already in the match>things go relatively smoothly until we have to go in the tunnels to finish the last holes off>said two people die once>no big deal, I'm below an opening so I'll just drop a reinforcement bea->they both leave>someone else joins right before I extract>they die once from a bug breach>instantly leaves too>die before I can extract>'disgraceful conduct' despite clearing everything but two stalker nests I couldn't be bothered trying to deal with after everythingFuck you.
>SAAAR YOU ARE PAKISTANI BASTARD BITCHYou really should wrap it up and go to work, Rajeesh.
>IT NOT INDIAN SAAR, ITS PAKI!!! ITS PAKI DOING IT SAAR
Letting indians on the internet was a mistake. Way worse than the chinese because they speak english (at least some sort of english), so they think they can just come along and talk with actual humans.
>Arrowhead CEO is an actual indian who used to work for fucking paradoxReally makes you think
>>552825426>>552825632>>552825426Keep doing your little rambling homeless man talking to the air routine you sniveling autist. If you're not paki you're from some other turd world shithole. My highest expectation about your habitat is you're a neet living in filth while grandma.asks about you finding a.job.
>>552825997it's funny how the best fire tools in the game are everything EXCEPT the handheld flamethrowers
>>552825997Keep in mind arrowhead has said they balance weapons based on how shitty they feel so you feel "pride" when you "master" it
>>552826359Just like for gas, its good except for the fucking sterilizer
>>552826371The fucking Deadeye is seen as "the most balanced" weapon. Genuinely fucking grim. That weapon is uselessly redundant on 1 of 3 factions, and even on its useful factions it fights back against its user through the stagger and long reload.
New>>552826794>>552826794>>552826794
The jeet is so fucking mad.
>>552799284vgh so realistic
>>552813314GGs saars, many izzat were farmed
