Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic! /sthg/ #8957 - Three wise hedgehogs Edition ==NEWS== >NiGHTS, AiAi, Tangle & Whisper in Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds https://youtu.be/B0DHucYYD0k >Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027 https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/ >Sonic universe event film to release on December 22, 2028 https://xcancel.com/rejectedjokes/status/1995685906444100087 ==Comic Release Dates== Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 04 February 2026 Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 11 February 2026 Sonic the Hedgehog #85 - 18 February 2026 ==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS== https://rentry.org/sthglinks >/sthg/ OP template: https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate >Milestone pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4 >Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet >Perfect System Collection: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection >Sonic comic scans: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics >Sonic shows: https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows >SAGE https://sagexpo.org >SHC https://shc.zone >#10000 Project https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru >/sthg/ booru: https://sthg.booru.org >/sthg/ OC info: https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive >/sthg/ CyTube: https://cytube/r/sthg >/sthg/ Pixel World: https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg Thread theme: https://youtu.be/-tj-87XkGUk Previous Zone: >>552911541
one day i will find the perfect autismo gf that will cosplay as the thread mascots for me
>>552967775Three retards.
Douge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFAcMVu6xs&list=RD3wFAcMVu6xs&start_radio=1
If you were isekaid into the Sonic world. What character would you rather be? Remember the character you are possessing will die
>Gallagher Archie>Fun, whimsy, cartoony.>Gallagher / Penders Archie>Same as before but more serious. features sci-fi and mysticism. mix of action, lore and world building (That was the sweet spot)>Early Penders / Bollers Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused>Late Penders / Bollers Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More drama focused. most archie criticism comes from content made in this era. (slap happens here)>Flynn Archie>serious, melodramatic with some shipping drama. More action focused>Flynn reboot archie>serious. tries to re tell game lore its own way. very action focused>Flynn IDW>Reboot archie without the Sonic SatAM stuff>Evan IDW>Steven universe fanfic>Imada Blade of Courge>Dark age game (Sonic and his co protagonist)>Imada Shadow>Shadow gens with more plot>90s shogakukan manga>hellokitty for boysBen Hurst Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTuMgsR38ng
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>>552967969>Remember the character you are possessing will dieWell i mean we all go at some point so wat da dif?
>>552967969Silver
>>552967969>Remember the character you are possessing will dieArchie Sonic so I can fuck the girls.
>>552968086>>552968124>>552968139Murderers
>>552968173*kills u*
Criminal friends.
>>552968284Stinky girls.
>>552968321'iona does NOT stink.
Come up with a scenario as to why in the holy mother of jesus these would ever work in fast food.
fiona killing surge in a really cool way
>>552968419God I hope she does.
>>552968448Only kit would because he and surge are poorfags. Tails is rich.
>>552968742Very true. Fuckin two-tailed richfag
>>552968742tails is in it for the love of the game
Someone say poorfag?
Fionafag intrigues me. I'm curious about their attachment to Fiona. They are aware that they don't like her character and that they haven't read the Archie comics but they also seem to be a fellow Tailsfag.Explain yourself Fionafag. Do you just like fox characters? I'm asking because I genuinely don't understand your angle. Most Fionafags I've seen are avid Tailshaters to the point of insanity. I've gotten used to Fionafags just naturally hating Tails as a product of her character.
No seriously, tails can afford a workshop and a continous stream of resources, and even make laundry for his friends.Kit and surge barely found a military ration to eat because they were starving.
>>552969021Tails is canonically a bigger threat to the universe than Eggman is thanks to Sonic Prime. Let that set in.
THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONICI WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYINGI WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFOREI DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHITGENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>552969870https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lucWCKxiKYE
>>552968976I do have a soft spot for canines in general, my attachment to fiona in particular was because of imprinting since the first piece of archie i saw was indeed her betrayal. I used to research more about archie thank to the mobius encyclopedia but the huge quantity of stuff in it pushed me away from actually reading it in full and not in pieces, it's not like the writing is particularly brilliant but for a hormonal teen 10 years ago it was fuel.Later on i detatched myself from sonic and found better webcomics. But i still have to thank archie for existing because that was a gateway for more content. Fiona in particular had been stuck in my head forever since, although she's still a minor and not a consistent one.Overall you may think i am hypocritical, but i'm never attached myself to sonic's characterizations in general, sonic is inconstistent and it's stupid to argue over OOC/IC. My very first character i loved and still love is tails so nobody can make me hate him, and his relationship with fiona is from an archie tails who was delusional and in love, but tails like the rest rotten away as the franchise went on.For the rest, i'm just gere to shitpost and that is all.
>>552967775so who's supposed to be Jesus
>>552970184I want to give this nutjob a passionate kiss and a tummy rub.
>>552970217Your opinion and experience on Fiona reminds me so much of my experience and opinion on Sally.I never watch SATAM and I didn't get into Archie until late 2010. Even then because I was a kid in a poor family I had to basically wait until someone dumped the comic so I could read it. Because I frequented the wiki and DeviantArt so much I just became numb to the whole Sally vs. Amy thing. Even to this day, I find Sonic shipping largely a personal thing and something that really can't be taken seriously but people in this very general still seem to take it as personal vendettas against them.If anything I'm just glad that I'm able to wholly criticize Ian's run over preboot Archie now because it's been so long that even oldfags like myself have to use hindsight. I remember back when Archie preboot was still happening I was trying to tell and convince people that Ian didn't know how to write Sonic characters in character and I've only been proven dividends in that prediction and argument.Of course I haven't even bothered mentioning my gripes with the official, mainline Sonic franchise because holy shit has my boy been abused and misused. Sonic Team should honestly feel ashamed of themselves for the meta era and the unnecessary damage it did to literally everyone including Sonic himself. And then Sonic Boom happened. And after Forces I genuinely don't know if I can even call myself a proper fan of this franchise anymore.
>>552971094didn't get into archie until late 2000's.*
It is wild how the most beautiful human ever can appear on your timeline and you're just expected to continue your day
>>552971094I understand how you feel, although i am less concerned about getting the characters "right" (mainly because the franchise has too many iterations of the same characters) and more concerned with giving a good spot for each character to shine, so i think more about the writing of their dynamics instead of personalities.
>>552971372He has absolutely no facial features besides asian eyes and weird eyebrows. He might as well be an egg.
Sonic general I know. I just wanted to say how much I love NiGHTS... so much I don't know if that makes me gay Also Feliz día de reyes
>>552971094You're not wrong. This IP has been mismanaged aside from the movies. Sega decided to listen to college kids who're obsessed with identity instead of substance and creativity. Every single franchise has suffered because of this and it sucks that Sonic had to as well. That's why every character feels bland and textureless with no real differing personalities. I lost interest in many good genres and IPs over the years because of it. Dimwitted and bland products made for dimiwits and bland people.
Should Yuuta be put in the games and comics?
I only ever had 1 copy of Archie Sonic and another copy of Knuckles when I was a kid and I don’t remember a damn thing from either of them except for a flashback of Sonic meeting Rouge for the first time. But I can kinda relate to Tails’ struggle with Fiona.https://youtu.be/aHnFIaLp_ys?si=4soO8WTpJEaAQLCm
>>552972647Knights has feminine features and looks female, so no, you're not "gay". I enjoy Nights for similar reasons regardless of the identity nutjobs.
mommy!
This is commander Abraham Tower, Tails has become a danger to the world, all forces eliminate the target
>>552972772Nah, his story's self contained, unlike how the comics try to be.
>>552972840>has feminine features and looks femaleYeah. That's exactly what concerns me
>>552972647>maris' bisexual awakening
>>552973415I'm not falling for the silly bait. I'm not gay lol
>>552973031If it doesn't have man junk or a male voice or anything else that may indicate male attributes then I think you're fine, brother.
who the hell is maris
>>552973626Your mom
I survived the dark era of sonicit's better than the current era actually
>>552970319Jesus is Jesus. He is canon in all universes
>>552972772He should be used as an npc you find in Metro City
i like movienic
>>552973972is that AI
>>552973939>1 InteligenceYeah, the death of culture in the last ten years or so has been a downer.
>>552973626you don't wanna know
This place is nothing but uncs being tsundere about liking Sonic
>>552974245How could anyone hate Sonic fr
>>552974245My love goes to Shade and I believe in Echidna supremacy.
>>552974245>uncEven though i'm zillennial and only semi-uncGOD.
i just NEED to suck someone's cock
>>552975006go back to the future silver
>>552974361>not the fastest thing alive (Flash, Superman and Goku are faster)>can't feel emotions due to being a physical representation of the wind>broke best girl Amy's heart so many times she became a cat lady that pretends she's a girlboss>nearly doomed the world on several occasions by sparing Eggman (the Batman dilemma)>makes his little brother do his laundry
Did you know Manhunt is canon to the GTA universe?
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Sage doesn't have the same personality in english or Japanese. So which are they going to continue on with for the canon?Eggman is also more cold to her in japanese, even in crossworlds.
i just NEED to fuck someone's pussy
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*plays beethoven flawlessly*
>>552971094>And after Forces I genuinely don't know if I can even call myself a proper fan of this franchise anymore.I am in the exact same boat. That game is almost a decade old there's only been 2 "main" games released since and both of them were 6/10 at best.Some anon a few threads ago brought it up but the fact that Sonic Forces is STILL a central "big thing" that happened in canon is absurd. This franchise is beyond stagnating and straight up rotting.
>>552975103I didn't before but I do now>>552975137This wouldn't be an issue if Sega did their job in making sure everything was uniform. Regardless, the Japanese control the franchise so follow whatever it is they are doing
>>552975103Who doesn’t know that?
saw some fujos say they won't read archie because it made sonic straight instead of leaving ambiguity like the games and I don't have an argument here
>>552975418>I am in the exact same boat. That game is almost a decade old there's only been 2 "main" games released since and both of them were 6/10 at best. [...] This franchise is beyond stagnating and straight up rotting.Reminder that Sega was looking to crunch-rush Frontiers into another 06-tier programming disaster until Kishimoto put his career's neck on the line to buy the devs a tiny bit more time. That game genuinely had the potential to kill the franchise.
Touch anon!
>>552975061>>552975116uuu stop comparing me to silver...
>>552975628ohnononononono anti-archie faggots what is this????
>>552973626It me
>>552975628they're pussies. just do your retarded gay ships anyway
>>552975418>Sonic Forces is STILL a central "big thing" that happened in canon is absurd.I don't think people focus on this enough. The time between Forces' release and now is longer than between SA2's release and Unleashed.
https://youtu.be/Lm8iC0vP3_A?si=NRxs5TA1gfvHGUioI remember when Sea3on was first announced and immediately wanted to get on board, and they would’ve taken me too, but I was a poorfag with nothing but a notebook and paper. Damn. And I don’t care that much about the Freedom Fighters.
>>552975628>obnoxious whores without life and family hate straight couplesMore news at 11.
>>552975101what are you talking about. Of course Sonic is canonly the fastest thing alive
>>552975809ok so likewhat do you do
>>552975884I really didn't need to read this post this early in the morning.
>>552975628Shadow is an afterthought in all eras of Archie so the only real fujo fuel it has is rarepairs like Sonic x Elias
>>552975884HAHAHAHAHAHAFUCK
>>552975884What sucks is that this is still true. Sonic Frontiers is a bigger, more important game but in the context of Sonic it literally only happened to the core 4 and eggman. Not a single living soul was present to witness that leaving Forces the most relevant in-universe event
>>552975137>Eggman is also more cold to her in Japanese, even in Crossworlds.That sounds like it corroborates what anons said about the JP Frontiers rewrite being treated as the "true" script while Ian was a beta draft monkey so they could kill two birds with one stone by not having do western localization (distorting the gaijins' perception of things doesn't matter to them). Regardless, Evan's IDW Sage arc may unironically be the tone-setter for Sage going forward, assuming that they give Evan hard mandates like they did Shadow.
>>552975737I'd prefer if she punched me as hard as she could, cried and walked over to give me a hug. I'd hardly feel a thing, but I'd give her a hug and tell her: "Oh that actually hurt, nice one!"She gave it her best shot, I'm not going to be mean about it, ya know?
NiGHTS Into To Dreams... is a love story.
>>552976115did literally everyone forget that elias has a wife
Fujos hate straight people? Why they, being female, drool over sexy male characters like Shadow then??I don't get it
>>552975884WHY AM I STILL HERE?WHY???????
>>552975303>Honeyfag has been in Robotnik's sex dungeon
>>552976260I haven't. Megan's pretty hot
>>552976205Why everything NiGHTS related is so tender and beautiful...NiGHTS "them"-self is already so cute sexy beautiful gorgeous I need that jester so bad
>>552975628The mentally ill will take whatever scraps they can that affirms to their warped sense of reality, even if it's circumstantial at best.Shade is looking at me and pointing at me, so that must mean she has feelings for me, obviously.
>>552976456you are gay
>>552975137Is JP Eggman colder to Sage than his English counterpart, or is are the fan translations not properly conveying the true intent of his emotions?
>>552976308They need to self-insert in the gay characters so they don't feel bad for enjoing being raped.
>>552976530I'm interested in how well the narrative would go over of Knuckles, a mesoamerican, taking a traitorous italic girl
>>552976358"Taxation is THEFT!!"
>>552975884>The time between Forces' release and now is longer than between SA2's release and Unleashed.
>>552976593>or is are the fan translations not properly conveying the true intent of his emotions?I think we need more people than just Windii doing translations of the games. Not because she's bad but because it's easier to get a scope if there's not just one set of eyes doing the interpreting.
The chances of an official crossover where Sonic and Cyclops team up is low. But never zero.
As a ShTH defender I don't understand why that game just came and went while Forces is constantly treated as this universe centralizing event. The events of shth are almost never brought up even though that game also put the entire planet under siege. Why couldn't we have simply moved on from Forces the same way? Why did IDW need to dedicate its entire existence to forces for a decade?
>>552975418>both of them were 6/10 at bestBoth of them are some of the best Sonic games ever produced.
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>>552976965Because they aren't very creative people and seem to be stuck in the period of time in which college indoctrinated them with warped, self-hating ideals.>>552976678To be honest, I wouldn't know. Enlighten us with your hypothesis.
>>552976965Foirces was meant to be series' reboot / redemption arc from the dark ages, the game that would define the modern era. It failed of course, but the plans they made were already set, the mobile game, IDW, Mania crossing over with the Phantom Ruby storyline, etc.
>>552977104They are both kinda Sonic Frontiers and Forces are kinda both mediocre, Anon. The only real bangers they shared were their music lists I guess.
>>552977195I don't think Chronicles 2 would have gone all the way with the shipping. Sonic games just don't do that aside from teases. But I do think there would be insinuations from the nocturnus on why Shade turned coat. Like a reverse Avatar. A PG version of arguing that she switched sides to sleep with a primitive. She herself considered earthlings backwater after all.
>>552977269They made a mistake in not allowing their mobile games to go on other platforms, because no hardly hardly knows what they are, so that just leaves Mania that was the only decent Sonic to come out in the past decade.
>>552976531Finding appeal in another person/character with ambiguous gender doesn't make me gay Besides NiGHTS has a nice bootyCharacters with a nice round booty are always appealing no matter the gender
>>552976192I think what happened was>Iizuka "trusted" Flynn to do a good job with the script>the devs don't give a shit and time animations to English like they've done in the several mainlines now>in the last phase of developmemt Kishimoto actually checks out the English to translate back into Japanese and is mortified that it deviates so much from the dialog outlines, it's too late to redo the animations but quickly orders the Japanese script to be totally redone at thelast minute>they try to do the Japanese thing and save face about it: https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-frontiers-writing-japan-asia-regional-changes/That article seems to be when the news broke. Approx. 2 months before the game's launch. They go on a weird cope spin, but the damage was done. You can just tell they'd want to redo the English script too if there was more time and budget.
aaaa... *ahm*
>>552977371This is very true. Would've been a cool idea to try to get the player romance choices which would've included Shade and the premise would've been similar. A shame we can only speculate.
uncs in here will say Forces and Frontiers is mid and then glaze some half finished demo with padding released when they were younger
>>552977426you are a faggot
>>552977607It is neat that the game splits your group into two in the end as if it wanted to be Knuckles Chronicles for a bit but because its a Sonic game Sonic has to be the final guy to save the day
>>552977604*ahhmm namm nom nom nom*
>>552977621aren't forces and frontiers half finished demos too? It's all asset flips.
>>552977432I was shocked when I played Kingdom Hearts 3 and the animations actually change depending on what language you're playing the game in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha5ql3QsCVoSonic could never.
>a terrible game where Eggman took control of 99% of the planet is a big eventYeah? Why the fuck wouldn't it be? Sonic Adventure being good doesn't change that the disaster was only in one city and that (based on the previous attack) Chaos would have wiped out a country at best, Sonic 1 happens all in one single island, Heroes is just (fake) Eggman with a fleet that gets destroyed in three days.As far society goes the most important games in the franchise would be>Adventure 2 where the whole word was threatened with a doomsday ray and then saw the whole station descending>Shadow where humankind is being attacked by fucking aliens>Advance 3 where the planet is split into pieces>Unleashed where the planet is split AGAIN>Forces where Eggman becomes the planet's ruler>maybe Rush if the dimensional fuckery in the map is actually happening in the whole worldThe quality of the game doesn't have to correlate to how much the everyday human/islander is affected by the plot
>>552977716That's one of Sega's flaws with this IP, Sonic always has to be the hero, they can't be bothered to even try to give individual characters their own paths and stories, which was the one thing I agree with Ian one during his bitching session in Sonic Frontier.I wouldn't mind if Amy, Tails and Knuckles has their own solo adventures. Meeting new characters, new places. Would be interesting. Let me romance this fine specimen.
>>552976837>other fantranslations of BoC stopped because Master Windii's doing itThere's a pro and a con to multiple fantranslations existing. The pro is that competition genuinely gets people to improve. The con is that these projects are made for umgrateful shits who don't know any Japanese and quickly-made lesser quality crap tends to be far-reaching, and overchoice fucks idiots up so they'll just gravitate to the first slop they see
>>552975137If Kishimoto is going to be making the next Sonic game featuring her, he's gonna go with his own script of course.
>>552977604*slurp* *smack* *slorp*
>>552975418Forces felt like a big event despite how mediocre it was. Frontiers feels like filler, especially since Sega is not gonna go with Ian's flimsy attempts at "character development".
>studying the way the games are written in japanese>Eventually start to realize just how much is lost in translation>start to find myself growing actual resentment towards the american changes and the things that manifested from those changes>eventually realize that the third parties (Satam, Archie) literally had no choice and couldn't have known most of these things anyways>still can't shake the dirty feeling that something is wrongThis is a tired example, but a lot of american Sonic feels like if we got western Dragon Ball content about how Goku came from a lineage of scientists. Every time I see a popular phrase from the english version my first instinct is to check if Sonic actually said that in the original. Too many times he didn't.
>>552977371I need to go see Avatar: Ash and Fire because I love me some interspecies/inter-culture shenanigans.Also, it would've been cool to have Knuckles join the Nocturnus due to Shade convincing him to turn to her side and the player's dialogue choices. Knuckles of Nocturnus sounds badass too.
>>552978002>>552976837In my case, I stick with Windii because that's a mostly literalist translation and the other one (Acqua) feels like it's trying too hard to flavor its dialogue.
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>>552977928Chronicles doesn't have an amazing story but it definitely feels like the ending would be more impactful if Knuckles was allowed to actually participate in the final battle. Instead he and Shade take Ix on and job so Sonic can do it even though Sonic doesn't have a personal stake in things
>>552978635I completely agree with you, I enjoy the game, but one part is a corpo call in for sure and it made me roll my eyes.
>>552978635The same happened in Sonic Adventure. Chaos was the one who wiped out the majority of Echidnas that eventually led to their extinction, but Sonic is the one who has the big final battle with him instead of Knuckles who had no part in it.
Give me a real criticism on something for once instead of "it's shit".I fucking hate all the niggers who just say stuff is not good because they don't personally like it.
>>552978770I also wish they went more into the dynamic they were teasing towards the end. Knuckles doesn't want to give up on these new echidnas. He naively believes that the likes of Ix could be redeemed. That's him wishing there is some kind of connection to be built. For Shade, none of this is significant. She already knows there is no changing Ix's mind. She isn't blinded by the desire to meet more echidnas and doesn't fully understand why Knuckles would project that onto Ix of all people. The way the game actually does this is a little reckless but I love the idea that these are echidnas, but they are not Knuckles's people. >>552978790It is so weird for an RPG to force you to only use Sonic for the final boss too. And yeah I agree about Adventure.
>Windii"I don't understand the nuance of why Japanese Sonic speaks English so I won't try to convey it, it is called being literal.">also Windii"OI M8S ME NAME'S MARIN, OI ME SPECCY YOU WOT? STRUTH!"
552978454And the award for the most insufferable "Richard Kuta" of jap purists GOES TO
If you hate Sonic then why are you on a Sonic general
>>552978790Archie had that one figure out. Penders couldn't contain his echidna autism
>Shade as the reverse Jake Sullysometimes this place is genius
>>552979017Tell me you are an SJSfag without telling me you are an SJSfag. The shitty lesbian fanfic comics are dogshit poopslop.
>>552972647They also explained the lowercase "i" in the titleIt's because the JP word for love is pronounced [ai] and NiGHTS is supposed to be a love story between the two dreamers
>>552979293Fuck, someone posted it first >>552976205
>>552979267What the fuck is an sjs.
>>552979212I have similar levels of Echidna autism, plus Jackals and other faction ideas. Difference is I know the world doesn't revolve around me.
>>552979525That's why you might never make it to greatness
>>552979620Yeah, you're probably right. ; ) A shame I wasn't born an autistic psychopath, I'm just a regular autist.
Chronicles is so 2000s like it was trying to follow every trend that the games were doing before 06>Gerald is important>echidnas are important>shadow and rouge work for gun>chao garden>the final boss is not eggman>there is some eternal space being important to the plot>hard rock intro animation>story acts like this adventure is the most important event in history >arrogant asshole introduced in the beginning of the game switches sides
>>552979462>he doesnt knowYou must be new here. The SJS refers to the SHIFTY JEWISH SCHEME that ian flynn is currently masterminding. The end goal of the sceme is to turn every single sonic character gay. The comics are a key factor in the SJS
>>552979772I don't remember Shadow working for GUN in Chronicles.
>>552979904I might be forgetting. Rouge definitely worked for GUN in that game though
>>552979772It was a good formula, but wrong tech and wrong platforms at the time. Just the higher ups at Sega being out of touch 'tards.
>>552979052Randomfox would try getting closer to Krack and seduce her into sending him nudes and meet irl and try raping her. That'd be IC of him.Someone please, write a fanfic around it.
I like fan translations that aren't afraid to call out Japanese's poor grasp of English.>>552951892
You think you have a hot take? I prefer Ryan Drummond's SA1 voice lines where he's actively trying to sound like a "tough cool guy" and not a cartoon cool guy
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>>552980728Jun'ichi Kanemaru also spoke with a softer tone of voice in that game.
>>552980635They probably don't want to use a real medical disorder anymore.
>>552980728I like Ryan Drummond too, but I think history will remember his take as the necessary bridge between the Western early 90's dude-with-'tudeSonic and the fairly straightforward-to-Japanese Jason Griffith chillguy. Meta era guy just sucks and only works for Sonic Boom, you see the AI versions of his games that replace his voice with Drummond/Griffith and they're more on-point.
>>552981184Stop making shit up on the spot to defend Ian.
>>552981242Ryan's Sonic was energetic, but could also sound sincere. Roger's Sonic sounds like a sarcastic asshole 24/7; like, everytime he speaks, he just doesn't sound genuine, and I'm getting tired of having to pretend Roger wasn't the biggest miscast in the series.
>>552981027cute
>>552972647>día de reyesThat was yesterday, idiota.
>>552981448I'm not defending Ian. I doubt this franchise wants to use a real life disorder. They already erased Sonic straight up taking place in the real world with some fantasy elements added and just have these knockoff locations starting with Unleashed.
>>552981782>I'm not defending Ian.You are.>I doubt this franchise wants to use a real life disorder.You made that up to defend him.You ignored evidence showing the original script used a real disorder.They already used a real disorder. That a
>>552981862Can it on the fucking schizophrenia just because I'm not agreeing with you the way you like it. The franchise has changed since Sonic Adventure 2. They likely don't want to use a real fucking disorder to not offend anyone or whatever oversensitive bullshit. They don't even let GUN use actual fucking guns anymore and took away Fang using a gun even though it was just a Pop Gun and changed his name from "Sniper" to "Hunter". Do the fucking math, retard.
>>552982082Ian is the one in charge of making these changes. It's his misunderstandings that are causing the changes. There is no top-down mandate to change it. You made that up to protect Ian.Kill yourself.
>>552982162Nice non-argument. A kids franchise then is different from a kids franchise now, you sheltered fuckwit. Don't think I like that shit either. I already explained the other things they've changed that you conveniently ignored since you have no rebuttal to it. In other words, concession accepted.
>>552981448Sonic Chronicles did it in the Codex.>Sonic Chronicles actually changed it to "Neuro-Immune Deficiency Syndrome" so there was a little plausible deniability that they outright stole it from fans>Shadow Generations changed it back to "neuro-immuno deficiency syndrome" because Archie (it's always Archie) used the fan-translation
>>552982360You literally made up a le-mandates excuse to protect Ian. There is no evidence whatsoever for what you are saying, you made it up. There's plenty of evidence that Ian's misunderstanding is the origin of the change. You made it up to protect him. Kill yourself.
>>552982465Answer the other things I've mentioned>"They don't even let GUN use actual fucking guns anymore and took away Fang using a gun even though it was just a Pop Gun and changed his name from "Sniper" to "Hunter"."Oh wait, you can't because you're just flipping out and making assumptions while accusing me of doing the same even though I have posted pattern recognition. Do the fucking math, you juvenile idiot.
>>552982642You made up an excuse because you didn't want to accept that Ian's misunderstanding is the direct cause of the change.
>>552982395"tch...Hedgehogs..."
>>552982454It's funny how everything about Chronicles ends up bleeding into the canon except Shade. Ian sucks.
honestly can't think of a single thing I genuinely like about this franchise anymore
>>552982885they're irresistible...
>>552982770Would you fucking PLEASE actually read what I'm saying and stop flipping out over that hack retard? It's like I'm talking to a child that doesn't understand basic communication. They're not gonna use the real term because kids franchises want to keep things overly safe now. Is it possible Ian used the name out of laziness and typical fanon crap? Yes. But did Sega change it even though they likely know the real disorder for Maria that it was originally? No. I already posted the examples of how they're toning down past elements of the franchise, Fang being the biggest example.Pattern recognition.
>>552981242Griffith has this Goku vibe where you really believe he is this larger than life icon who could do anything to save the world. Drummond had more of an underdog vibe. Like Jaleel but less off brand. He came across more like a regular cool guy.Roger seems to always play an obnoxious guy who just thinks he's cool. Frontiers decided to change that to a chill grown man who is everyone's older brother.
After hearing what they did to Cream, I demand a 4Kids-style annhilation and refresh of the English cast.
>>552983501The english voice really need a refesh because everyone sound way too old beside Tails and Eggman, but I wouldn't they being changed too
>>552982920>except Shade.This is what sucks. I hope she returns (as long as Ian is writing for the franchise anymore because he'll just project Archie harder with Chronicles).
>>552983664I remember Vanilla straight up sounding like a granny in the dub.
>>552983664I really don't mind in their case, Bristow Eggman was best Eggman, and post-Advance 3 Tails has that voice-actor problem where you can tell it's a woman putting on an artificial boy's voice.
>>552983057"What filthy degenerates you primitives have become! Disgusting. Perhaps Imperator Ix has a point about the people of this World."
>>552983956It's really funny that the stakes spike right before she switches sides so nobody except Sonic and Amy really acknowledges the psychotic shit she was spewing before she realized she was in the wrong
>>552983946Before then, they had actual young boys voicing him, but the common issue is that you'd have to get a new VA when they got older. Getting a woman to put on a faux boy voice is a lot easier.
>>552983668I would prefer if neither Ian and his team nor Penders were behind her writing, or any other pro-mainstream western writer. Last thing we need is Shade preaching DEI or some other nonsense like it.
>>552983956>"Imperator" (the root of "Emperor") is a Latin title used in the Roman Republic and later Empire>the Nocturnus probably all sound vaguely Italian.
>>552984262I know, they should've kept her in this mindset for a longer time, it was a very attractive and interesting quality. They probably didn't have enough time to write some extra scenes I guess, or they were being pussies. Either way, at least we have this initial exchange, it was great.
>>552967969Motobug number 1
>>552984468I love my Roman Echidna waifu very much. She suffered a great injustice.
saving boy
Why are YOU still didn't saved your favorite character from SEGA?
>>552984262When Shade says "primitives" she's referring to the people of earth in general, so it's ironic that she was supposed to be teased with Knuckles of all people
>>552985252You can't save a fictional character that already belongs to million dollar company and not you
>>552954357where dafuq did she go thenthis is the longest i've seen her away
>>552985252>>552985375If Blackrock and Vanguard weren't propping up companies like Sega, it probably wouldn't exist anymore.
>>55296828How will sonic get along with his wife's bad girlfriends?Or if this is pre marriage Surge, how will marrying Sonic affect her relationship with her gal pals?
>>552985624This post must feel like terrorism from the eyes of a jp purist
>>552968742How did Tails come upon his wealth?I suppose the logical explanation is that he looted Eggman's base while adventuring with Sonic and either made a gadget or sold off the straight up looted goods (factory reset) for a good price? If that's the case how did he haul the stuff back? Maybe he stole some expensive GPU's and RAM?How did he get his tech billionaire start?
>>552974065Why did culture die in the last decade?
>>552985501Nah, there are periods where the poster goes inactive, but only time will tell if he comes back.
>>552986141Turned completely dull and corporate. Political Correctness dialled up to 11.
>>552979052in most fandoms for japanese franchises, the baseline fan acts like fox. The only reason this isn't the case with Sonic is because Sonic is unpopular in japan and extremely popular in the west.
It's great time to release fixed sonic 2006 and call it sonic 2026, sega
>>552985758Do JP purists not accept that Surge is real?
>>552986019He probably always looted and repurposed old tech like what was implied in the OVA.
>>552986019Maybe.It would be a cool explaination, eggman leaves a lot of scrap around so recycling it is a goldmine both for commencial and personal use.
>>552986334Is culture that easy to kill? How did the world just end up killing culture? What allowed this? How did globohomo do this to both east and west? Killing all good media and communities?I guess it's as simple as baiting everyone to becoming online zombies with social media and then taking complete control to corporatize the content on it with monetary incentives?
Random claims that if Surge was in the games, Sonic would have inspired her. I'm surprised he would even say that. I'm not sure he's totally unbiased though since he insists that if game Sonic met Sally they would be outright enemies instead of just not dating.
>>552986519>>552986542How did he set up his business? He doesn't seem like the businessy type but then again so are a lot of rich people on the surface. Who did he sell off his wares to?
>>552986519>Tails has more of a reason to be a treasure hunter than Knuckles also because foxes are scavengers
>>552986612Seems to be the case. Divide everyone by race, sex, religion and what-not and then isolate people via social media and 24/7 propaganda. Almost everyone I see out irl look gloomy and depressed and everyone online are stuck in echo chambers all the time and if isn't a clear cut echo chamber, it's heavily moderated to the point where it might as well be one. People always seem to be constantly trying not to knock over the cardboard cutouts.
>>552986803>outright enemiesI think he hates Sonic's satam characterization to such a level that he just sees it that way
>>552987038The echo chamber thing seems to be mostly cloudflare's fault. Too bad that even on sites that aren't under globohomo or whatever other name for it's control, they'll be the odds one out, and therefore not be adopted enough to be seen as legit.What's strange though is that I've done a little research on media censorship and this politico and not wanting to step over cardboard attitude stems way before social media was a thing. I think what has changed after y2k is that this attitude has taken a much much stronger stranglehold over the populace worldwide. Odd how something can be so prevalent but then that could also be the fault of the internet.
>>552986831>He doesn't seem like the businessy typeYou doesn't need to, you can sell iron or more precious metals like copper (scrapyards are always open).Boy probably has a scrapyard business himself eith all the metals piling up.
>>552987828Hmmm. Who buys all the heaps of scrap metal? Does Eggman begrudgingly (knowingly or not knowingly) pay Tails?
https://youtu.be/3q4JK3yttPo?si=qFkmNhjO2AgsKEPa
>>552986989>no mention whatsoever of Tails being named after his tails, being capable himself or using his tails to fly or go fastYep, Toyoda approved.
>>552988296What is his big head filled with?
>>552986989Tails got vaulted....
>>552987995>>552988296Bobby sure can cook
SURRENDER OR I'LL MAKE YOU LISTEN TO THIS DOUBLEMINT MUSIC!
>>552987436Yeah, well. Hopefully people grow a spine and stop taking things so seriously and learn to take a joke or learn to ignore edgy and mean comments. Thicker skin would do everyone good. Something the Sonic fandom can do is stop being divided on the whole Archie and IDW thing, it's all Sonic related stuff, but that's difficult because you have two or three generations clashing over moral values. Probably by design.Gotta find common ground and just learn to accept that people have some different opinions and identify the things that are superficial and based purely on one's own preference and just, you know, focus on arguments that are more constructive and laugh at shitposts instead of raging about 'em. That's a good first step.For instance, complaining about OCs is superficial, won't change or convince anyone to ever change their minds. Same with with a character is gay or not, it's superficial, totally based on preference, no different from fan fiction. Arguing about stuff like company policy and how Sega should do this and that and convincing others, now that's constructive.But that's just my 2 cents on that subject. People are just too angry and frustrated and aren't being constructive out there. Blatant accusations and insults doesn't do nothin'. Now banter is fine, it's fun, teasing is fun. I think every fandom can be civil if they just focused on what they have in common and if there are disagreements, just be chill. Hopefully people will eventually figure that out.
>>552986989>protégéI hate Maekawa for setting the course on Tails' flanderization so fucking much.
UH OH
>>552988658Maekawa is the only reason anyone thought Tails would be more than that
>>552988271>>no mention whatsoever of Tails being named after his tails>can't just infer that from his character design
>>552988793You mean SA1. Maekawa didn't write it.
>>552988783>Secret Rings is not canon and any who say otherwise are all dead - Takashi Iizuka
https://youtu.be/wCWRAmOKiGY?si=a6HBi4eii4ups5w4
>>552988119Funny:>eggman produces a lot of stuff he also throws away as failed experiments or when defeated>our fox picks them up, makes tech out of it, the rest is cleaned and separated>he sells it to local foundries as recycled material (majority of his wealth comes from here)>eggman buys pre-machined pieces from them>makes new tech>rinse and repeatBasically the entire economy works thanks to eggman trying and failing to take over the world.
the one thing roger has over all other sonic voice actors is that he is actually able to answer the question when people ask about sonic's character. The rest just sort of fumble about their words for some reason and some generic thing like "he's a good guy"
>>552988624Yeah social media definitely got people fucked up because all it does is compare things as better or worse, moral and immoral, outsider vs insider. First that just creates a long list of little things to be judgy about which have big communal implications on division. Getting along in a natural way is difficult though, because there's also now the idea of the shill or norm ignoramus not cognizant of frictions in a community. You can even project this issue to society at large, in that excessive red tape and regulations, like being too picky about things in a fandom, strangles the life out of many industries.The accusation thing seems to be borne of fear and need to feel better about oneself. Either way it is tiresome and immature, I just hope we get some good Sonic games once people wisen up to this overly sensitive attitude.
>>552989202That means nothing, if he is dogshit at his job, and he is. You fags are so concerned over the wrong shit. Roger does not have a single positive line attributed to him. There isnt a sngle line hes known for that isn't used to shit on this franchise. Fire him.
>>552989454He's a good voice actor
RCS and the Flynn are works-for-peanuts buddies.
>>552988783u-uh n-not canon>GenerationsAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IIZUKA-SANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN WHY DID YOU LIEEEEE
>>552989331The sooner customers and companies ditch the over-sensitivity and stop being offended by everything, the better off everyone will be. Life is crappy enough without people looking to get angry over petty things that don't matter. Bring back the sexy mobians, Sega and ignore the angry karens and their simps, the Sonic IP will flourish if you do.
>>552989597He really isn't. And the fact that you can not refute my statement about his lines, means you know it.
>>552989756None of the other voice actors for Sonic were even professional voice actors before Roger. I don't understand the hate.
>>552989202Sonic's character is difficult to explain, it's simple but at the same time it isn't, and even the writers can't agree on how he should be written.
>>552989018So the question becomes how did Tails take care of logistics? I suppose it can work if he keeps furnishing transportation drones out of old scrap Eggman tech, which won't be bogged down by gov't regulation because they're technically in a war zone or something.Then the question becomes how he formed a relationship with those foundries and gathers enough material to sell to make him wealthy. Scraps don't sell for much.Another idea is that he's got some kind of government contractor gig and engineers a lot of military tech or other small equipment, which is very lucrative irl.
>>552989640To be fair, I think this is one of those attempted retcons like "Two Planets" or "Classic Sonic is AU" that they didn't follow through on. They haven't said anything definitive about Chaotix in the canon at least since Yuji Naka left.
Rapist hedgehogs
>>552989803>None of the other voice actors for Sonic were even professional voice actors before RogerAnd they did a better job than the "professional" did for 15 fucking years. He's dogshit.>I don't understand the hateBaldy Nosehair, for one. But even at Rogers best he's still a surfer dudebro that doesnt sound anything like Sonic should. People attribute his best Sonic to Boom and that should tell you everything. Faggot
https://youtu.be/1YZQh8gO9Es?si=eW4QfVzxgvQPPl2k
Some of you just live to argue.
>>552988271Toyoda also approved Forces Tails, he shouldn’t be allowed to touch him ever again
huffing surge's post-exercise fumes
>>552985960
>>552990476You understand the beauty of a woman
>>552989647What's ironic is that it's getting angry over petty things that makes life suck in the modern times. In all sorts of spaces people get very prickly over things you do and can't do, like all the bad accusations women make of men that makes both sexes miserable. Anyhow step one for Sega is to finesse their way around these nuances and create a good Sonic game, not by dulling the game until it is inoffensive to everyone, but skirting the gray zones that allow it to have charm and appeal but isn't obviously vulnerably to sulky karens.
Toyoda must love fapping to femboy Tails porn...
>>552990526But she's doing very manly things!
>>552989904Well places like scrapnik island are there, from someone like eggman shitting out giant moon sized death eggs it's a lot of financial losses eaten up by scavenging businesses. Now we're still in the realm of cartoon so the specific is pretty much headcanon.Thing is if tails is rich he got assets somewhere, scraps may not sell much unless you have big fields, trucks and maschines to move and separate stuff, then Scrap yards are indeed profitable.
https://youtu.be/JW2yZamiBlg?si=3Xlcz8wpHv2kfNRW
>>552990692Keeping in shape is not manly, it's healthy. I do not want a whale, Ahab.
Sonurge is JP purist approved?
https://youtu.be/fXID4RvSLz4?si=_uUKEOyCfP49zvQv
>>552990992Nothing is JP Purist approved unless it is straight from the Japanese teet
>>552990841You're saying being a gymrat and building muscle isn't manly?
Surge dreams of Sonic kissing her.
>>552983501>>552986387I think it's time Sonic had a soft-reboot ala Sonic Adventure. "Muh refrinces" isn't sustainable forever and won't endear the series to new fans.>Sonic Boom?Was an attempt at a hard reboot that made no effort to properly reintroduce the characters (which Sonic Adventure did).
>>552990992I do not think even Sonic can fix psychological conditioning to such an extent, not to mention the PTSD and other trauma Surge suffers from. She might have moments of clarity, but she's very unstable. It's like trying to break the psychological conditioning of someone who is indoctrinated into a certain political view or views. It can't be undone quickly irl, it takes decades of small suggestions and nudges to deprogram a brain and Sonic doesn't seem to have the patience for that kind of thing. Sonic is like Knuckles, he prefers to tackle problems head on. But that's my take.
>sonurgelol fuck that shithttps://youtu.be/NMqPJL_HbdY?si=ygbU3ftOO8puU-ih
>>552990697So Tails is rich because he built an entire fleet of automated logistics and sorting robots that clean up after Eggman's mess? Kinda fits into the whole Sonic environmentalism theme, I wonder if they'll explain it like this if they want to explain how all the mess Sonic and Eggman leave behind gets cleaned up. Maybe that's why Eggman hates Sonic so much, not only does he foil his plans, his sidekick then rips him off selling him back his own shit lol!
>>552990692I hate how people always draw Surge with a gigantic sheboon ass, it's completely antithetical to her archetype as a character and to me just comes off as the artist being a low IQ mongoloid. At most she should have a build like picrel in my opinion>>552991572If only Surge was anywhere near as cool as she is in that picture
>>552983501Anon faked their death to escape the asylum.
>>552990992>Sonic would inspire Surge>Sonic would hate Sally this guy is on another brain level
>>552991751for >>552985501
>>552991819Take it a step further>get rid of eggman>get rid of sonic>become fastest thing alive
>>552991819Sonic does hate authority and any real kind of restriction, he's not not known to be the best emotional crutch either. He's supportive somewhat, but he's mostly just a playful and energetic dude, unpredictable for the most part. That's why Eggman can't stop him, Sonic is extremely difficult to predict and catch.
>>552991250That's different from what I said. I said staying in shape isnt manly. She's jumping rope, not fucking doing deadlifts. If she was on a row machine with huge muscles you'd be right, but shes just jumping rope.
>>552992039Elise :^)
thinking bout Drago
I've been saying for years that Satam Sally and gamenic would not get along very well, but Sonic hating and attempting to depose her sounds like an exaggeration made by someone who specifically hates that pairing for how Sonic is characterized in it
>>552990992>I don't dislike Sally BUT ALL CAPS EVIL DESPOTIC TYRANT LITERALLY EGGMAN LITERALLY HITLER FUCK HER FUCK HERHe needs meds, badly.
>>552992265Spank the monkee.>>552992258The writers were smoking some series stuff for that one.
>>552992258I don't know why people act like Elise, a victim of authority, is on the same level as Sally Acorn, who is an authority figure. Elise barely has any say in her life. That's the entire point of that game.
>>552992541Sally works great as an antithesis to Sonic for all of the reasons he listed but he's too enraged by Sonic's archie characterization to analyze that objectively
>>552992559>Elise is in charge because her father jobbed and no one else is up to the task>Sally is in charge because her father jobbed and no one else is up to the task
Why do you keep analyzing the ramblings of a mad man?
>>552992927They believe he's trying to communicate to them in Retard
>>552992281>Sonic loves freedom and would hate monarchy of any kind!>helps Elise>helps Blaze>helps the PresidentSonic would probably get annoyed with her if she tried to tell him what to do, he does have that loose cannon energy, but if she was decent at her job he wouldn't mind.>depose herGirl's hardly ever in charge anyway. Archie preboot had her standing in until the King got saved, threw her to the side for Elias, and then before Elias went away essentially devolved the Monarchy into a government.And Reboot her father does all of leading, Sally just works as part-time ambassador and part-time special operatives leader of her original resistance gangWhat would you really gain from deposing either of them
Been playing some Pokémon Romhacks to pass the time until more Sonic news, how about (you)?
Ken Penders, you're a fucking wacko, but I want to fuck your Echidna here, so, hats of to ya in that department. We're not soo different, you and I, but ya gotta dump that DEI and Globobomo mindset, my guy. Crack a beer with me and lets make fun of lesbians.
Sonic and Mega Man!
Looks like there's even less people here than usual. Where do people actually go to talk about Sonic?
>>552992924Elise wasn't in charge of Soleanna. She is more like a living barrier between Soleanna and total destruction. If Sonic never met her, she would have rolled over and been a cog in the machine for the rest of her life, never doing anything of note out of fear of absolute destruction. It's a heavy handed metaphor. In a way she is created to be an opposite of Sonic, just like Sally, but they're opposing two completely different functions of Sonic. Elise is hesitation incarnate. The fear that your actions have consequences.Sally is not Elise. Sally does not hide any of her emotions. She isn't a loose cannon, but she is not reserved. Even in the face of imminent death she is outspoken. Much like Sonic himself she doesn't like to "pretend" even if that is the smart thing to do. Elise spent her entire life pretending. If Sally or Sonic were put in Elise's position it would end in failure. I'm using SatAM here so if there's a difference in Archie feel free to correct me. https://youtu.be/CeSgXNAhD9Y?si=QEkzhhs9RR6yXBZ9&t=205Overrestimating herself is also not a mistake Elise would make, at least not without Sonic's influence. Sally is introduced being just as strong willed as Sonic.
>>552993120Yeah I think Random just hates Sonally to such an extreme that he wants to snuff out the remote possibility instead of just leaving it at "The real Sonic doesn't want to be tied down and wouldn't have any of the growth necessary to work with Sally". He has to establish that they would be enemies and that he would hate her personally.
>>552992187Are women inclined towards cardio versus resistance training biologically speaking? Not versus men mind you, just between those two choices.
>>552991436If Sonic Team had the ability and budget, I unironically think they should pull a Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X. The idea was to give Mega Man X a straightfoward remake with a tweaked storyline to make it more in line with the later entries, and then use it as a launchpad to springboard future remakes of the earlier entries, but the PSP remakes of it and the original Mega Man did not sell well enough to warrant further investment (which instead led to the opposite effect where the remake no longer fits in current canon). Then Capcom stole the idea for Resident Evil.I envision>a total overhaul where the timeline of the "Classic" games (Genesis + MAYBE Mania if you want to say that Forces and the legacy timeline is AU)>Sonic Adventure 1+2 remakes, fairly straightforward with retranslated scripts>reimagine elements of Heroes/Shadow/Battle as a new "Sonic Adventure 3">reimagine elements of Advances/Rushes/2006 as "Sonic Adventure 4">etc.Or honestly just start rerelease Dreamcast Sonic Adventure 1+2 untampered and do a do-over from there, pretending that everything since Sega went third-party is non-canon.
>>552993529good analysis.my argument here is that "sonic would hate muh sally"and I'm proving that he is disingenuous who just wants to shit on Amerika no Sonikku
>>552990526imagine the electrolytes in her sweat
>>552993868From purely anecdotal experience ay my time at the gym, femals hate strength training on average because they legitimately think they'll get super buff and ugly, they genuinely believe theyll slip into a bodybuilder physique. You'd think Im making this shit up. But pay attention next time you go.
>>552991662That would be a cool concept for a tails industrial level. ScrapTails zone.
>>552993889You're right. Hate is way too much. If anything he would probably have a similar dynamic to the one he has with Knuckles where his recklessness gets on Knuckles's nerves, but Sonic is too unserious to actually debate about it and probably would enjoy it. https://youtu.be/7blfEcxZ_U8?si=hr7rZ8h3bVKLoZnD&t=881Sonic X isn't perfectly in-character but I think this interaction works if we're imagining gamenic and Sally.
>>552993127drawing Archie characterswhich romhacks?
Shadmega would be good if Shadow was actually an android or is he?
>>552990526Surge is gorgeous, but damn is her psychological profile heavy baggage. She'd be more likely to kill every single person she comes across due to a psychotic itch she can't scratch.
>>552994223Do you have a preffered style you pull from Archie, or use your own style?Pokémon Quetzal
>>552991715It's just funny art anon. Art isn't just about accurate representation. Besides, even if that, Surge also has a sleazy/dirty side to her personality which a big ass can represent. She's also got a big round pants.
>>552994326>She'd be more likely to kill every single person she comes across due to a psychotic itch she can't scratch.Gonna need to articulate how thats different from an average modern woman.
>>552994534NTA but she's very cute in this render
>>552994549She can stop your heart with a snap of her fingers.
>>552994652Nah, I'm built different
>>552994092I do see most women just stay on treadmills but I also see a lot of women in gyms, especially ones without cardio machines do upper body training. Besides, aren't squats popular with women?But seriously though, are women unaware that men are into abs or at least toned girls?
>>552994154Ian actually captured this exact vibe one time with Sonic and Sally during the egg grapes arc. It was weird, it was almost like Ian suddenly decided he wanted to write windnic in the middle of the 2000s.This never happened again, not before or after. Ian never wrote Sonic like this EVER again. He even had the psychotic face that he's constantly sporting a crazy expression like in Blade of Courage.
>>552994752Calm down there, David.
>>552994645What about this particular render that accentuate her cuteness in your opinion
I don’t think Surge’s “hero” act is gonna last much longer. Whether or not she’ll be devastated by Kit’s manipulation of the situations, she knows people are stupid, and probably assholes as well. Or she simply just hates people. Maybe she’ll forget her need for approval and just go back to doing things her own way. She already knows she’s alone in the world, but with the only person who is loyal to the end. She’d realize that’s enough and fuck off from civilization or go ahead with her plan and waste Eggman and Sonic and be done with it all, and then maybe she’ll find what she’s looking for, or just simply move on.https://youtu.be/ayw4tkZ6NMw?si=hSqRVeIdsX9MPrfe
>>552994407I'm trying to settle into a more Uekawa-lean, but using the proportion approach of the Riders games because longer/thicker limbs feel more comfortable, some of Archie's art tend to get really detailed with their musculature but I think it gets better later in the bookshow far are you in the game? would you recommend it?
>>552994769>I also see a lot of women in gyms, especially ones without cardio machines do upper body training. Besides, aren't squats popular with womenYeah, but take a look and youll find most stick to low weight yields to either stay where they are or, actually know what theyre doing.>But seriously though, are women unaware that men are into abs or at least toned girls?They will only listen to trends (most of the time)
>>552994919not sure, it's mostly that good finding a good Surge 3D model is like finding water in a desert
https://files.catbox.moe/5hc2st.jpg
>>552995090Riders style is iconic, especially the shading. Id love to see your art if you wanna post it. It's Pokémon Emerald, with all of the mons and completely customizable. I took out the EV and IV grinding shit and am having much more fun than the mainline games.
>>552994975Surge hates everyone and everythingShe hates Sonic because of his inactionShe hates people in general because they were too weak to escape that ship without Sonic's helpthe only thing she doesn't hate is Kit, and I dont think she's gonna hate him if she discovered that Kit was creating chances for her to be a heroHe's the only thing she has and also she's not the Flash to beat Eobard for sth like that
>>552995491>Surge hates everyone and everythingSurge was pretty decent to the little kid at the park though
>>552995491Right, so if who ever writes their arc next should probably just make her an anti-villain, or at best an anti-hero.
>>552995128>Low weight yieldsThis is mostly true especially for beginners which a lot of women in gyms are. But the regulars in my gym are pretty toned or strong for their weights, doing pull-ups and the like and have some kind of definition. I've also seen chubbers use 30-40LB dumbbells on occasion which I respect, I wonder what drives them to do that.
>>552995883>I've also seen chubbers use 30-40LB dumbbells on occasion which I respect, I wonder what drives them to do thatConversion is excellent for chubbers. Burning fat into muscle is a great way to burn it fast, because your body knows the fat is being used for exercise, so uses it for fuel instead of storing it.
>>552991436The reboot will be the Japanese surrendering to the Americans not by letting IDWvirgins have their way but by giving the franchise to Paramountchads.
okay, maybe she likes Chao, but you can't dislike them, even if you wanted
>>552994146I hate the Tails being relegated to the submissive sidekick role as the next guy but somehow Tails having his own little empire seems OOC. He always came off as a grass roots kinda guy. Somehow both imagining him as rich or poor seem a bit off?Maybe the explanation that best suits him being rich is that he's mobius' Linus Torvalds and doesn't have to be too involved, businessy, or evil to be rich.
>>552996209
>>552996209There’s no way she absolutely everything, like the chao or kids, something small and innocent, somewhat like Kit. She’s nowhere near that level of evil.
>>552996046Conversion sounds cool. Have you any studies published on it? I'm interested in reading the mechanism in which the body turns fat into muscle or discourages fat storage.
>>552996428>but somehow Tails having his own little empire seems OOC. He always came off as a grass roots kinda guy.every big company started in a garage
>>552996209Making an antagonistic character out to be heroic once in a while shows some moral ambiguity, maybe Surge could've done it as payment instead, to earn a reward, but just doing it out of the kindness of her heart just doesn't fit her, imo.Yeah yeah, Chao are nice and all that, but come on, put some thought into the "why". Kids aren't stupid so just holding their hand doesn't entertain them nor teach them anything, same thing with adolescents and adults. It comes off as preachy and predictable, dumbed-down slop. This is why people aren't buying comics, there's no reason to care.
>>552996776That's not true. Even if you just limit it to tech companies. Oracle, for example. Anyway do you have an evil magnate Tails headcanon? Maybe similar to "Where Was My Hero"?
>>552969021I've always assumed the vast majority of Tails' inventions are made from salvaged materials from all of Eggman's various failed badniks and such. Tails doesn't need to buy scrap metal, cogs, gears, etc cause they're lying around everywhere.
>>552996709and that's why she's predictable and boring. Surge isn't evil, she's not even an anti-hero.
>>552997053>Where Was My HeroDamn i was just thinking about that. Was thinking of some parallels to Tails in that to Surge and Kit.
>>552996428I think this thing about tails being a super genius kills him off, he has to be smart but not like somehow on the same level as eggman, otherwise he's really a huge plothole himself for people to poke the question "why he doesn't build a military industrial complex"?
Isn't it funny that whenever Sonic isn't in the picture Tails becomes the biggest threat to the planet?
>>552996428That's because you're looking at this from the humanistic point of view, not the islander society one.
>>552992559>>552993529Elise literally keeps pointing Sonic to stuff to do on gameplay and bawls out like a bitch at the end.
>>552997476That is not the same as Sally's dynamic with Sonic at all especially considering that most of that is just 06's tutorialization which every character does
>>552997101>>552969021Begs the question, how are Sonic and friends able to live relatively comfortably and carefree, i.e. getting to do what they want, while Surge and Kit can't?Where does Sonic eat and how does he afford it?Or is it because Sonic stays in biomes like green hill where he can just pick a coconut or something while Surge is in more metro areas where not even the air is free? But then how does Sonic afford his chili dogs?I wonder if the in world government or even people just give him a lump sum of money to make sure he doesn't starve.Which further brings up the question who's the money manager in Sonic's circle?
>>552976148>Frontiers is a bigger, more important game but in the context of Sonic it literally only happened to the core 4 and eggmanFunnily, this is my main gripe with Sonic Prime as a show. I thought it was enjoyable despite some problems, but the biggest flaw for me was that only Sonic went through the multiverse-shattering epic quest while everyone else was completely left out
>>552997383i disagreesolaris was bigger than tails after sonic died
>>552992745I can tell Randomfox is THAT lonely since he sounds like he just never heard such thing as opposites attract, one of the most commonplace relationship tropes across media.
>>552997271While I sort of agree, I don't think it really kills him off. Having a high IQ doesn't mean you are suddenly predisposed by fate to conquer the world even if conquerers and leaders tend to have high IQ. Wasn't that 200 IQ woman a teacher or something? Besides, a smart person could also be laid back meanwhile some midwit could be a finance bro and try to meddle with politics and policy. And people who do actually build MICs aren't the absolute smartest people on the planet.
>>552996772https://www.fitresults.net/news/body-recomposition-workouthttps://hevycoach.com/glossary/body-recomposition/https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/body-recompositionHere's some I found. Did not read them. I found this out through YouTube.
>>552997132I don’t think being predictable is necessarily a bad thing. Sonic’s already unpredictable and we already got the predictable villain Eggman as well as the anti-hero in Shadow. So maybe an anti-villain would be the more sensible route, if Evan had any sense.
>>552997826He kind of has a point when it comes to Sonic though. He isn't a regular tsundere, if he's going in one direction he's staying in that direction regardless of any argument, this is even true in Satam. But yeah Randomfox somehow sees this as Sonic would hate Sally and that is clearly just him seething about the pairing.
>>552997407What would be an islander society POV?
>>552997631If you combine your take with stuff like "there is no currency/money in sonic's world" make everything ecen more confusing. There is seriously a lack of world building sega doesn't care to fill so they can shit out whatever game setting they like.
The next villain should be a rogue Ultron-like AI made by Tails
>>552997826Sonic isn't built for that trope at all. It's his way with no compromises.
332shut the fuck up randomtard
Satamfags will accuse the games of having no consistency, then they'll ask for the most consistent character trait in the games to be removed because it gets in the way of their precious ship. >>552998108Sonic would absolutely hate Sally Acorn and Sally would hate him right back. Anyone denying this is being delusional and hasn't played the games.
oh my fucking god not this shit again
>>552998039Well, Surge struggling to be "good" despite her mental issues with Starline and thus making her prone to periods of mental instability and psychopathy would have made her more complex and not knowing when she'd go rogue would've made her a more tragic and interesting character. imo. However, I guess Evan and Ian thinks that's too complicated and scary, but I'm probably giving them too much credit, I don't think such a concept would come to them in the first place.
>>552998005I meant being a "super genius" who can rival eggman instead of just a genius who's proficient into specific fields.Which is why i prefer him running a simpler business operation, he also has a workshop so he can fix computers and stuff for a living as technician/engineer.
>>552998619
>>552998304The whole "no money" thing Sega mandated is weird, because there already is money? Rings? And you can buy chili dogs with it. There are shops in game. True, the vibe of real money vs rings is different but that doesn't disqualify some interesting world building. Maybe from a communal standpoint than a finance and profit centric one. Like you'd see in a fantasy and community setting which Sonic kind of is. It really feels flimsy when you consider Chemical plant zone and stuff like that is a thing, which implies industry and economy and all that stuff.
>>552998662The beats are all there, there’s still time to go that route, if that’s not Starline at the end of #83. If it is, then idk what they’ll do from there.
>>552998823He's really trying anything to not release those files
>>552993889Sonic hates the word slowSonic hates injusticeSonic hates compromiseSally's relationship WITH Sonic is BUILT on compromise. You HAVE to add that to his character to make that work. You have to CHANGE who he is at his core for this to function. Shipping Sonic with Sally is character assassination of the highest order and you would think people like you would understand that after a decade of sega outright telling comic writers not to feature this shitty pairing.
>>552998823
>>552998872No Money is clearly just Sega telling Ian "don't make it like archie you fucking idiot"Sega media has referenced the existence of money since that bumblekast
>>552998823I don't think there are any nukes that work anymore. I think they were all dismantled decades ago, either that or Russia and America are playing a con, good cop and bad cop. Those dreams of Mobius will have to wait, friend.
>>552997271>"why he doesn't build a military industrial complex"?Probably because he's seen Eggman's war machine and determined it isn't a good idea to have two giant war machines pitted against each other long term. Eggman's military already takes a heavy toll on the environment; two would be much worse because of all the manufacturing of new machines *and* the scale of environmental damage would drastically increase due to larger scale conflicts between armies. He's also seen that, ultimately, Eggman's war machine isn't always better than Sonic and friends' small team, so why bother replicating the military form factor when it isn't necessariloy going to be any more effective than what they're currently doing?
>>552998872It's clearly more of a "don't build a plot around it".
>>552994154This is ALMOST a smart thing to say, but Sonic X is ENTIRELY out of character. It is not "almost'. It is wrong. Sonic X did not respect the games and turned Sonic into a lazy stooge who hangs out at his rich bestie's house all the time. Do not use it as a reference for Sonic's character under any circumstances. Sonic does not behave how he did in Sonic X. He never has and never will. As for Sally, Knuckles is ALMOST a good example except Knuckles is not a FUCKING ROYAL who TELLS PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE THREAT OF TREASON Sally's entire dynamic with Sonic is built rigidly on Sonic being mischaracterized. Play a game. A SONIC game.
>>552999098I was about to say, not having a currency in any of your lore is rather ridiculous. Having money in lore doesn't equate it to "Archie".
>>552998730I'm not sure what you mean by that. I feel like you mean the opposite where the super genius IS referring to their proficiency in a specific field (tech and robotics). Because then you can argue>hey why was Eggman able to build all those fancy robots and super weapons and industrial complexes while Tails just works on a translation machine?Of course the nuance is that a field can be developed in multiple directions, physics isn't just about engineering weapons for ex.I do think his personality for now fits into small operations though. He doesn't seem the type to want to expand and dominate.
>>552998872It's all stuff sega never cared to clarify because they just wanted to make games.But now with all the comics and all the obsession with canon it's another story, a lot of worldbuilding is missing which means more writing without logic (surge and kit being poor and wageslaving). With clutch and the existence of "cleaning companies" it is implied they do have private property and markets, so be it rings or other stuff they do have a currency.
>>552975628That's why Sonic needs to be made unambiguously straight in 2027. It'll get this irritating, socially maladjusted fujos out of the fandom since they're only here for the yaoi instead of the characters, lore, and gameplay. They're tourists
>>552998404If people who didn't play the games and prefer the comics would stay in their lane there would be no problems, but they don't. They try and make statements about the canon characters as if they know anything and then they defend their SHITTY OOC cartoon made by someone who DID NOT PLAY THE GAMES with Ben Hurst statements even though Ben HURST ALSO STATED THAT HE DID NOT PLAY A SONIC GAME OR KNOW ANY OF THE LORE OR CHARACTERIZATIONS AT ALL.If you're going to parade around Sonally as in-character then you are an enemy of those who play the games. You decided this, not me.
>>552996428Id like to think if Tails did have his own big company, he’d put any excess profits into either his own personal projects or to some kind of charity
I just cannot take any game purism seriously when the games themselves have treated the characters like garbage
>>552999681>If people who didn't play the games and prefer the comics would stay in their lane there would be no problems, but they don'tI more often find that gamefags will complain about Archie even if it is never brought up, so...
>>552999874Everyone who says this either hates the games or only played them in english and refuses to examine them in japanese
>>552995465I don't think I've attempted the shading style yet, been mostly focused refining my construction but I do need to dive into rendering because I typically work with flatsI'll check it out, being able to customize the mons like that sounds fun, they're interesting from a game dev pov but I never cared about EVs/IVs personally
>>552999874Yeah, this is the biggest pill to swallow. The games have had shit writing since 2010. And they are still not any better.
>>552999710So Tails is Batman despite being polar opposites to him in personality and look?
>>552999468I mean eggman is a special case because he's not just good in robotics, the man is good at everything including biology (metal virus) and even constructing non-euclidean dimensions (in the comic he built a space to test all his machines).Tails, from how smart he is, kniws exactly all the stuff eggman is playing with and manages to create a cure and break down how that infinite space dimension works.
This is just a guess but I think that Randomfox guy does not like the idea of Sonic and Sally dating.
>>552999931I don't speak Japanese
>>552999931I shouldn’t have to play a game in a language I don’t speak just to get the ““““right”””” version. And yes, I do hate the games for being shit and ruining the characters
>>552999931>either hates the gamesYes. They have been utter shit since 2010.
>>552985545>If Blackrock and Vanguard weren't propping up companies like Sega, it probably wouldn't exist anymore.>BlackRock and Vanguard are keeping Sega alive but in return we have to deal with the wokeness those 2 companies force Sega to promote and carry out through ESG policiesMonkey's paw
>>553000141>I shouldn’t have to play a game in a language I don’t speak just to get the ““““right”””” versionsSO YOU AGREE THAT THE LOCALIZATION TEAM MISCHARACTERIZED THE CHARACTERS THEN
>>553000265He put the word ‘right’ in heavy quotation marks dumbass. Are you literate enough to even understand the games?
>>552972647Hi Maris pls draw more Shadriakino it's so based
Knxouge
>>552999931No language or translation will fix the fact that Sonic’s friends were made lame and/or useless and/or irrelevant just to prop up the gary stu blue rat himself
>>553000180Your shitty 90s cartoon is still out of character even if you exclude the "meta era". It does not match the games at all.
>>553000435Ding ding ding, we have a winner
>>553000050I guess tech is a kind of all encompassing field, like being a linguistics expert to build a translation machine or even AI. I see your point though. Still >>552999161 has a point I think. And also the fact that it brings the question of why doesn't Sonic just stop Eggman permanently?It becomes a question about pragmatics.
>>553000448>Your shitty 90s cartoon is still out of characterRent free. I want the Sonic from the English version of SA2 back, and nothing else.
>>553000000
>>552999143>I don't think there are any nukes that work anymoreLast year Russia hit Ukraine with a non nuclear ICBM to show the world they are not joking when they say they will use nukes on whoever try to interfere with their war. All they have to do is switch the warhead.
>>553000435It doesn't matter what your opinion on the 2010s games is when the comics and cartoons are still out of character and nothing in them is supported by the games. Preferring or defending them is a form if misappropriation and Sonally is a direct attack on Sonic's character from those very games. East. West. 2000s. 2010s. There is no excuse. SatAM should not have been made.
>>553000265No nigga, I’m playing devils advocate against your retarded premise
Bought that Lego set and every time I look at Silver and Knuckles I cant stop thinking about that shitass comic
>>553000770Incorrect
>>553000396>krack and maris making outwouldn't that be funny haha
It would be great if you had to actually like Sonic games to post here. I love posters who actually like Sonic games.
>>553000763Still wasn't nuclear. I don't doubt ICBMs work, it's the nukes themselves. Unless they actually detonate one, I think they're all full of hot air.
>>553000770It does actually. When your precious games themselves are out of character, you can’t use that as an argument against any side media. That’s called being a hypocrite
>>553000909I like both the games and the comics, anon. That's normal.
>>553000802Canon
>>553000938https://youtu.be/s5EJgAvbp3s?si=PricYh1_VvGZzzYhShow me the mischaracterization.
>>552972647NiD design? Why not JoD?
>>552988658kill yourself tranny
>>553001056Here it is. No language is fixing this
>>553001223www.youtube.com/watch?v=U28ul9ziu-o
>>553001223Written by japan too.
>Hello, my name is tails i'm your new employer.
>>553000935The weapon itself is a ICBM, the nuke is just a ICBM war head and those do not expire, anon. You can be cetic and say you don't believe, but there is a good reason why the USA don't mess with Russia, while doing stuff like they did to Venezuela and other weak countries.
>>553000802Is there any good Silver and Knuckles interaction out there? the prefroces comic was the only one?
>>553001307>retarded headcanons only meant to shamelessly defend glorious nippon
>>553001412I would quit my current job so fucking fast
>>553001582New bobby art. Coincidentally featuring an anchor
>>552994278>implying it's not good anywayI read a fanfic once where Omega uses a vibrate function to get Shadow off, he's initially uncomfortable but quickly gives in. It was hot. The author deleted it. Sad shit since Omegadow content is rare.
>>553001808
>>552995373>Shadow x Ray>Lien-Da x Zooeywhat in the flying crackship fuck
>>553001851>picimagine the sexugggghhhhimagine shadow not being able to escape omega's graspUUUUGGGHHH>Omega uses a vibrate function to get Shadow offmy god
Kit is the best example on characters being unable to prop one another, even a sidekick cannot have any glory from their hero.
>>553001441Being in denial assumes I actually believe when I say I do not out of fear.But whatever you say.
>>553001307Yes, it does. No, him being “depressed” is not an excuse. The only amount of depression that would make cowering to a starter-level opponent excusable would be one where he literally can’t function and he’s huddled away in a shelter somewhere. But no, the same exact scene showed him out and about helping omega. Not to mention he was also cowering with civilians before Sonic even “died”
>>552994326>>553001994Surge really reminds me of my ex girlfriend, just as sweet but kinda worse. Even tho I broke up with her I still think about her sometimes.
>>553002225Nta but how are Americans this bad at English?
Shadally
>>553000893That's not funny, it's GAY. We don't like GAY shit, except for sometimes when we do
>>553002507You trying to ragebait or something?
https://youtu.be/2hkDZvsewlM?si=0drMiwMfEic0ZxfQ
/sthg/ is boring me.
>>553002581nah it's not gay when girls do itstraight chicks kiss each other all the time when they're at bars and stuff
I fucking hate this decade so much.
crack
>>553003043But anon! /sthg/ assures me Sonic is in a good place right now!
>>552986019>How did Tails come upon his wealthDaytrading and stock market manipulation
>>553003136>/sthg/ is one person.Yeah, not everyone, buddy.
>so much art of sally and elias fucking>Wonder about megan hentai>it's all with Sonic
>>553003161Wait wait! This has a lot more merit than the memes with smart introverts that somehow predict events.He actually CAN influence world events on a big and small scale so he can pull a trumps' son and bet against one of Eggman's industries or projects by orchestrating an attack on it.
>>553003328We can only save this series if we demand better from SEGA like the moviefags did to Paramount. Else, we're hopeless.
/sthg/ is fiona talking to herself in the void.
Damn they took one look at the script for colors and didn't keep a single thing in the japanese version
>>553000763>>553001441The shortest route for Russian ICBMs to North America passes over the Arctic, which is why there's talk of annexing Greenland.
>>553003752A complete rewrite would still mean I have to play a shitty boostslop game with 8/9 acts being a 2D challenge course. I fucking hate Colors. I spit on Colors
We talk about JP tsundere Surge, but how would JP Kit be written compared to the comics?
>>553003740So you're saying she's a random fox
>>553003942Nah, it means she's a lone fox.
Irl boyfriend
>>553003938Yandere (even more so).
>>553004187
>>553003461I agree with you on that one.
>>553004187SoA really have this at their office?
>>553002174Haha imagine if Omega detected elevated hormone levels in Shadow due to rutting season, and Omega decides Shadow's sexual frustration is an inconvenience to his missions, so Omega traps Shadow against himself and gets him off without his permission haha. Shadow trapped and squirming against Omega in pleasure, lol. Shadow struggling with his body's desperate need for touch and contact while his rational mind begs him to leave, but he can't think right, it feels to good. Funny!
Something must change...
>>553003897Yeah and Venezuela and Brazil were their entry point in the continent. That's why they had to eliminate Venezuela and buy up Brazil. We could pretty much say that what we are seeing is pre war preparations.
>>553004248Kit really carries himself much like Tails Doll.
>>553004518WW3 soon. I hope I die but I hope my enemies die too
>>553003920Never played it, I'm watching it right now because of the link. Literally every line is different. Every time Sonic tells a joke was removed for something totally unrelated.
>>553004415WellThey made itThey paid for thatSo why wouldnt they
>>553004415You expected cultureless corpo trash to not corrupt everything they touch?
https://youtu.be/DwLNqt1Xo5Q?si=dUfBNf_mPmH9xbJ1
>>553004719Thing is, did all those changes in Japan help the sales of the game there? This is a genuine question, not trying to start shit.
>>553004719They don't care to bother with mischaracterizations on the english side because they'll just correct them exclusively for the Japanese.
>>553004962I doubt it, but these changes probably would have helped in the west because I don't know anyone who thins Colors is funny.
>>553004842>cultureless corpo trashYou know Japan is hypercapitalistic, don't you?
>>553004842idk i just thought it was funny and unexpected. It’s obviously tongue in cheek
>>553005056>I don't know anyone who thins Colors is funnyAt the time, it was seen as a Renaissance and return to form for Sonic. People used to tout it as one of the best in the series until the remake shattered that lens. Which is wild because I guarantee at the time people only played in English.
>>553005053So they basically just lest us out to dry with our own version of the canon just like in the 90s
>>553005092At least they have a culture. America doesn't.
>>553000557>why doesn't Sonic just stop Eggman permanently?Same reason Batman doesn't just pay criminals to stop doing crime: it'd be a pretty boring story with no antagonists>It becomes a question about pragmatics.Gotta stop worrying about "pragmatics" at a certain point when it comes to fantasy video games and comic books. "Why doesn't Superman just stop all crime? Is he stupid?" Well because then the story would be over and there'd be no media for you to purchaseSonic is always going to have Eggman the same way Batman is always going to have the Joker and Goku is always going to have Frieza. Fans like those villains and want them to stick around to give the hero a hard time
>>553005263>At least they have a culture.They used to, anon. You only find culture in Okinawa and Hokkaido. The rest have been cucked out of any identity. Not to mention they just had an import, nay, a deluge of Indians going in. Its over for them, bud.
Another day, another dollar goneWhen I get up in the morning, I just can't go onI feel the outstretch turns of timeI ain't lyinBut somethin's callin' from down deep withinLike I finally started livin' for myself againI saved the outstretch lands of timeChanged my mind'Cause I wanna run that raceI wanna run that raceI do it on my paceLong as I get to run that race againI feel discouraged, and I doubt myselfBut you know you can't blame it on nobody elseOnly you know where it is, you belongSing alongWe gotta run that raceWe gotta run that raceWe do it on our paceAs long as we get to run that race againWhen I lay my head on my pillow at nightI think about what still goin' rightThank the stars up aboveThere's still things left I loveI wanna run that raceI wanna run that raceI wanna run that race, yeah
>>553005263Just because you don’t partake in anything in your local community and replaced it with fandom doesn’t mean America has no culture. You know that, anon.
>>553005263Not him but beating the US in culture is like winning the special olympics
>>553005261Yeah....
I wanna suck the casino's bunny girl tiddies.
>>553005261Only this time Its not even funny to read. Archie was at least entertaining.
>>553005727Then do it
>>553005797she's not canon....
>>553003938Do Surge and Kit have JP characterizations? Do they translate IDW?
>>553005937Do it
>>553005601Local culture in America is drugs and homelessness. Used to fast food too but that became too expensive.
>>552986519Wtf russia is canon in sonic universe????
>>553006065FUCK YES
>>553006238Yeah i get that but maybe your city just sucks.
>>553006323This, stay outta jew territory and youll be just fine. They hate the cold, go north.
>>553005601I'm not going to discuss this much further, but America hasn't been America since the 70s. it's all just consumerist, corporate slop. That's not "culture".
>>553005986Only up to Issue 32 (or Volume 8) as of mid-2025.This company handles it.https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Wise_Publishing
>>553006450But all the jews are in new york
>>553006323That's every city, even the so called "good" ones. Rock and roll was our last real cultural output and it died when MTV got its hands on it.
>>553005986>Do they translate IDW?Thankfully, no--but people were talking about Surge's Japanese characterization after one of her emotes in Rumble looked tsundere-esque
I’m an adult female who wants to reproduce with Kit and make him smile. Surge can be his big sister, but I’ll be his wife
>>553006645
>>553006617Because they have a robust tunnel system to hide in there.
The japanese will make Surge a tsundere. Angry women don't stay that way in japan.
>>553006704
>>553006704>I’m an adult femaleI dont believe you, but I dont really care either.
>>552972691>Every single franchise has suffered because of thisThe exact moment this went from actual criticism to disingenuous crying about politics.
>>553006829Don't trust her, brother, all women are manipulative.
>>553007032>I disagree with you, so therefore you are disingenuous.Alright then.
>>553006704Fucking bitch.
Jorking Kit off
>>553007198Nobody said that. You know nobody said that. But, as I correctly identified, you're a dishonest little faggot, so you'll hide behind invented strawmen like this instead of saying anything of substance.No, you and I both know that a lack of authenticity is not a universal problem across all media, nor is it a 1:1 correlation to identity culture, but you're not actually open to talking about writing. You just want to seed your politics. Get bent.
Least favorite Sonic Adventure 1 stage?
https://youtu.be/W83Xkg40_HY?si=W5rFwmYEyeqi1oGV
>>553007697Casinopolis as Tails
>>553007547That's an awful lot of projecting you're doing there, you literally said:"disingenuous crying about politics" and now you're saying I invented a "strawman". kek Whatever, buddy.
*headpats your OC*
Sonic hasn't changed. You have
>>553008156cutei wish we had more yumes here
>>553008352https://youtu.be/lGf2b1H91JA?t=85
I like mischaracterization
>>553008413Which yumes do we have already
I have deleted all 800 images related to Sonic from my phone. Feels like letting go, least a start.
>>553008762and yet here you are. what was the breaking point
>>553008823>and yet here you areI know. But I have to wonder for how long. I dont have the energy to shitpost lile I used to. So even trolling this board doesn't seem appealing. >what was the breaking pointColors 2010, I have just put too much faith into this franchise and haven't learned it wont get better. But Im seeing it more and more now.
>>553009161Spotted
>>553009161The amount of abject disgust that archie page makes me feel cannot be understated.
>>553009161I'm so glad I've never ever read one of these growing up, thank god
>>553009601Well the comic is dead, so why does it matter?
>Everyone fucking hates it for being out of characterthis would be progress but I bet all those people like IDW anyways
does crossworlds not have the boost mode and all that other stuff transformed did?
shut up randomtard
>>553009789Yeah, imagine liking something
>>553009601Well yeah, well functioning people procreate, not sure why they would disgust you, but w/e. It's just one of many possibilities in many Universes anyway, so again, I don't get why this would disgust you or anybody.kind of a rather odd thing to say, Anon.
>>553009921Imagine having any modicum of taste or standards
>>553009871kys
>>553009921It's a problem. Hell I can understand why Archie fans are always up in arms when their fellow Sonic haters keep insulting them. Why do people who watch Sonic Boom, Sonic X, and IDW feel any bit superior to Archie fags when all of these things are out of character? You are literally all the fucking same. I hate Archie more than anything but I also hate the dishonesty from other spinoff consuming faggots who think they are in any way superior.
blaze can sense soil quality through her gloves
>>553010086>Grrr, stop liking what I don't!Has never worked
>>553009983>I LOVE MISCHARACTERIZING SONIC!
>>553009983Not him but if you think Sonic would become a political figure like that and just sit down and have babies with some OC you should probably be gunned down on the streets of Moscow
I love Eggman.
>>553010436His characterization matters a lot less than you think it does. It will change in a moments notice if it means they make more money. Dont forget what this franchise is.
>>553010643>sonic tells annoying jokes in the 2010s games so it's okay to completely abandon one of the core details of his character People who like Sonally hate the games. All of them.
>>553010552>>553010436Maybe in that Universe Sonic got older and changed his perspective. Scourge was Sonic too technically so it's entirely possible. Does it have to be the mainline Sonic? No. Also, I should be shot to death for having this opinion? Thanks a lot, that's not mentally deranged or anything.
>>553010757>sonic tells annoying jokes in the 2010s games so it's okay to completely abandon one of the core details of his characterIt was the Japanese that wrote him rhat way, anon . His core details left him in 06, by the way. Youre clinging onto a memory.
>people actually try to ship this with Sonic
The only correct ship is Sonic x Wind.
>>553010872So you're using 2010s Sonic writing as an excuse for the putrid disgusting garbage in Archie? >>553011250This one has an actual brain.
Blaze and Silver have absolutely no chemistry compared to Sonic and Blaze
God damn I never noticed she had a dump truck too
>>553011278>So you're using 2010s Sonic writing as an excuse for the putrid disgusting garbage in Archie?Ian Flynn was not hired for nothing, anon.
>>553010836>maybe in that universe Sonic isn't Sonic and is just someone different and sharing the same name doesn't have any real meaning and it's literally just an OC someone is trying to pass as SonicWoah that's amazing writing, so original, truly a marvel. What's next, what if Eggman was a retired jazz musician from Brooklyn who builds and sells rocket toys to pay the mortage?Or we could skin you alive in a wax museum in Budapest.
>>553011250> Self-cest
Shadow's SA2 theme and what's love got to do with it are lyrically the same song.
>>553011428>angry old man shakes fist at cloudsYou are not the target demographic anymore.
>>553011428Archie fans don't like Sonic. They can't come up with any actual defense. They will tell you it isn't mischaracterization and then spell out direct differences between the games and comics. They are dishonest, vile people. Sonallyfags are an unforgivable type of bad.
>>553011428Damn, bro, that's edgy, got me shakin' in my boots.
I'm gonna check out Archie now. Thanks for the recommendation
KrackRandomfoxShadallyScribblesVioletSparky
>>553011250>selfcest
>>553011618Neither are you tumblr millenial
>>553011870my wives
>>553011932Correct, which is why I don't bitch when it doesnt resonate with me, like a woman would
>>553011509Krack, fact-check this nigger
>>553011618Nah, clouds are there, Archie is thankfully gone for good, and I have never been the demographic for those comics because I'm not a racoon, I don't consume trash.Now please go to your nearest favela to get decapitated.
Is Blaze just Girl Knuckles?
>>553011335Blaze and Silver have no chemistry and neither does Sonic and Blaze. Both are buns. Having a crush on Sonic is purposeless for her character, does nothing. Silvaze and sonaze are dogshit from the same dog ass
>>553011653what about sonamyfags?
>>553012160>I don't consume trashYou're a fan of Sonic, don't get ahead of yourself.
>>553009983Sonic is canonically an incel, he hates women, just like the wind
>>553012175No she's worse, she tries to be every good character at once but came out as a nothing burger instead
>>553012175Nah her dick is too big to be a Knuckles' counterpart. He makes up with quantity tho
>>553011335Blaze has no chemistry with any other character so no fag being in a good game doesn't equal chemistry.
>>553012230im in the picture and I dont like that
>>553012230Half good, half actually hate sonic's character and just want him to be archienic but for Amy
>>553012467>Blaze has no chemistry with any other characterI know she only ever appeared once, but dont forget Marine.
>>553012568>half goodBut 99.999% wants the latter. the remaining 0.001% is >>552969306
>>553012593>MarinePlease fuck off, she barely talked to her and they don't even have a dynamic. she's just "another sol dude"
>>553011509Oh-oh, what's love got to do, got to do with it?What's love but a second-hand emotion?What's love got to do, got to do with it?Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?
Is anyone able to actually debate Random's points on Sonic and Sally or is he too hostile and annoying for anyone to bother
>>553012284Incel = Involuntary celibateHe'd be more of a regular Celibate.
>>553012845>Please fuck offBlaze should be in the vault forever, actually
>>553013089people just use incel to mean everything now
>>553013012No, just ignore the sperg.
>>553013012>actually debate Random's pointsGood one, anon. He doesnt have any.
>>553013012Sounds like he took it personally. If multiple universes exists and the original Sonic is untouched and another Sonic can by psychotic like Scourge, then why should I care if another Sonic gets married, becomes a king and has kids of his own? Good for that Sonic, man. Chad won at life. mad respect.
>>553012284>sonic is an incelBut Sonic fucked Madona.
>>553012824They don't want the melodrama. They just want an actual romance
>>553013304A ship for people that hate Amy
>>553013464no shipper wants melodrama my boy, archie's writers were slapping hands and doing the long running will they wont they
>>553013528> A ship for people that hate AmyAnd Surge, too, for that matter
I am not convinced that the average Sonamyfag wants Sonic to be 100% in character to the pure japanese vision and they don't get the hellfire from windfags over it because there is no official material that breaks the rules here
>>553012236>archiecuck is mixing up actual Sonic with archieshitClassic.
I was ignoring most of this stuff but the take that Sally deep down is evil or at least morally twisted is kind of fun honestly.
>>553013942The games have been utter shit for some time, and you're not gonna convince me elsewise.
>>553011335Silver has no chemistry with anyone, just leave him in his shitty future
>>553013089No man is celibate voluntarily. Past 18, if you haven't had sex yet your an incel.
>>553014238I don't think you know what voluntarily means.
>>553014004Tells ya she was written well for a female character. She wasn't just some saint like all of the female characters in IDW seem to be. It's a refreshing take.
And what does RandomFox know about archie or Sally if the sperg doesn't read the comics.
>>553014238>femoid logicYour virginity is sacred. Only whores waste it
>archiefagsenjoy things based on a mix of personal tastes, it doesn't need to be like the games at all>idwfagsnot actually far off from archiefags but their content is officially canon and has mandates so they might scoff at archie for being out of character while getting annoyed at purists anyways>windfagsonly accept characterization from the games, if it does not do that it is automatically evil and bad>jpfagsif it is from the west then it is rape>classicfagseverything after sonic adventure is bad >darkagefagsThe 2000s are good, everything else sucks >meta era fagsrare, young, probably consider the 2000s to be edgy and stupid>moviefagsthe one faction to actually drive out windfags that attempted to bully them despite being made up entirely of zoomers
>>553011335That's not hard when Silver is just a cookie cutter savior from the future protag.
>>553013012Archie Sonic never focused on being canon to games. It's just another interpretation out of many and other franchises, Megaman especially does that all the time, so you're looking at it in the wrong angle.woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowww that was hard phew
>>553014458He unironically read all of the comics and cites specific arcs and pages when he's seething about them
>>553013063>not Honey
>>553013587Is absolute catwoman absolutely stacked?
>>553014510I like Sonic 1-Sonic Adventure 2. SatAM. And some of the comic specials but thats it. I think Sonic should be like the wind for the most part, but that its obvious he works better if he has at least some attitude. I like what I like if its good. Not all of us fit in some sort of box.
>>553014458He just posted an essay about how Elias is the only well written Acorn character who isn't morally evil
>>553014510>darkagefagssonic unleashed demographic are not the same as SA2 demographic. all sonic games made after 2005, the era of the PS2 and the game cube, are trash.
>>553014510Archiefag here, accurate analysis.
Unfortunately for all of you, that angry windfag's essays on sally only fuel my Sally x Mephiles headcanon as 100% perfectly in character
>>553014947>tangle with big boobiesbased
>>553015219Sallies?Mephally?
i took a pee :>
>>553015274........ ooooh so this is what Sonic means by "Wind" xD
>>553011124This is decently thought out, but it completely ignores the fact that Archie Sally and SatAM Sally are not the same character. Obviously neither of them are actually compatible with Sonic as he is portrayed in the games, but nobody can even debate that in the first place. Sally doesn't act like any of that in SatAM. She specifically is designed to be unable to control or tie down Sonic at all.
>>553014226Honorable warrior with Espio, student to Shadow, immature rival with Sonic, bestie with Amy, massive ally to the diamond cutters, and actual support to the team, Silver has made more chemistry with many characters then Blaze who only blushed like a slut to Sonic once.
>>553015274those dawgs were spicy
>>553015457>completely ignores the fact that Archie Sally and SatAM Sally are not the same characterMost fags to this day still believe they are and its annoying.
>>553010586me too
>>553015645Sally fan? It must feel like if people insisted that movienic's problems are gamenic's problems
sonic x was a mistake. it brought in the most insufferable autists. due to how accessible it was. and i say this as soemone who likes x
>>553011509>>553012057>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGpFcHTxjZs...How?
But if Sally is evil that means Alicia is good
>>553015961I have weak Sonic autism so please explain this one to me
all games made after 2005 were a mistake. they were after Naka left. they were directionless and soulless, lacking in identity and were not that fun to play.
Alicia is purehearted
>>553012568there is no "half good" with sonamyfags. They all wwant archienic for Amy, but they're in denial that Sonic would have to compromise himself for that, ultimately making it OOC. But sonamyfags are so delusional they refuse to see it.
>>553016410Whenever I see someone who actually believes this it's like meeting a vietnam war vet
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
>>553016082Alicia literally turned against Scourge and ran to Sally for help stopping him, which implies that she isn't 100% evil, which implies Sally isn't 100% good.
>>553016494He's right though. Shadow Generations and Murder are the only recent counterexamples.
>>553014175>archiekek has shit tasteAlready knew that, you didn't have to tell me.
warhammer 40k but it's all the different factions of the sonic fandom
>>553016741You're really gonna tell me Sonic Rumble was what you're looking for? You're gonna say that Forces was good? Just to "own" someone that likes comics that you dont?
>>553016082What if I think Randomfox is completely correct about Sally's morals and her dysfunction with Sonic's character and that just makes me like her more?
>>553014510Proud classichads.
>>553016494The sixth gen was the last of the good times
>>553016891We are just as religious. Yeah.
>>553014510classicfag with a softspot for SA2, Mania, and IDW porn
>>553017184Hello, me
>>553017184>>553017302wtf you both can't be me
>>553017302Did you wash your hands?
>Windnic Sally would be a villanous despot DUOFAG WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG? DUOFAG UNDERSTOOD THE INNER DEPTHS OF THE SONIC FRANCHISE?
>>553016493He wouldn't be compromising anything. You people always run your mouths off about Sonamy supposedly being out of character and it makes Sonic compromise and it slows him down and if you like Sonamy you don't like Sonic but you never actually explain why it's supposedly out of character and instead just pontificate and gatekeep
>>553017683
>>553017683Sonamy has almost all of the same OOC problems as Sonally especially thanks to more recent games and IDW
unc games general
I thought Sonic autism was gained from playing SA2 as a child
>>553018056zoom zoom games are not good
>>553015645>>553015457I directly checked him for this, looks like he already knew. Fast responder.
>>553017864How? Explain or else keep your fingers off the keyboard
>>553017682Does that mean that Sally was the evil one in the 25 years later AU?
>>553018479Sonic doesn't compromise. He's going to have to if he wants to date Amy's current RULES RULES RULES bickering characterization
>>553014510>archiefagsenjoy things based on a mix of personal tastes. Usually a /co/fag that hate the games and anyone that points the comic is different from the games.>idwfagsnot actually far off from archiefags but their content has mandates so they might scoff at archie for being out of character while getting annoyed at purists anyways. Usually composed of zoomers and trannies>windfagsonly accept characterization from the games, if it does not do that it is automatically evil and bad>jpfagsif it is from the west then it is rape>classicfagseverything after sonic adventure is bad>darkagefagsThe 2000s are good, everything else sucks>meta era fagsrare, young, probably consider the 2000s to be edgy and stupid>moviefagsZoomers first time experiencing the capeshit movie wave.
>>553018629Not even AI could produce such lazy edits
uncKINGS
>>553018794>This bitch is straight up windhating evil
>>553018629>Usually composed of zoomersGuess how i know this post was written by a retard.
>>553018586No, he won't have to compromise. You're thinking Boom Amy and that show was just millennial meta "humor" slop. You guys act as if Sonic being in a romantic relationship with Amy would turn him into a slave or something. Quit being so histrionic
Cool, she's now canon.
>>553018629https://vocaroo.com/162qLTmWM8G0Voicefags rant after being exposed to windnic for the first time confirmed to me that Archie fans do not play Sonic games
Soleil the Sugar Glider
>>553019071>give nails nails>hide his beanscoward
>>553019108I can't believe this is now windfag approved. God save us all.
>>553019175Soon to become "Soleil The Rape Victim".
>>553002982The only girl I'd actually kiss would be female NiGHTS. Don't ask me why I don't even knowAll I know is that Sonic team designed 'em very well. Made me feel confused some nightsI confessed that to my friend yesterday as I drew some NiGHTS lewds
>>553019175https://files.catbox.moe/l2ga68.gif
I'm starting to think that Randomfox is legitimately illiterate on some level. He can't break down basic concepts or paraphrase at all. At least Sparky is able to do those things and he can't even read above High School level.
>Randomfox being such a jp purist he starts inadvertedly justifying Duofag's Shadolly headcanon that he only made to shitpost GOD DAMN IT
>>553019380>as I drew some NiGHTS lewdscould youyou knowshare some of it?please~~??
>>553019386wow
>>553019490Well Randomfox is shitposting too, he just doesn't know.
>>553019490Shadally is a transcendent phenomenon that only grows in power.
>>553019604Maybe
>>553019108I hope you're proud of yourself
>>553018778>>553018964this is how you know you're spot on.
>>553018875Sonic is chaotic good. Any character desiring order is going to be good until "good" has to be sacrificed to maintain order, which covers practically every other rival to Sonic
>>553019386He knows its place.
>>553019906that's unironically fucking deep, now we're on some real windshit
What if randomfox is an AI
>>553019872Okay?
>>553019948>tails raping kit...hot..? I think?
Who started the whole"Sonic's like the Windex" thing? Can't remember
"Duofag doesn't understand the games" they said
>>553019386i dont care if lunar is transi want that
>>553020340Sonic Team.Here? Sparky from what I can gather as a relative newfag.
>>553020340Sonic Adventure 2? The early drafts for Sonic 1? Sonic Rush? It's not really a "who"
Apologize now.
>>553020568Is sparky still here or he finally retired?
>>553020340Sonic's character descriptions have been saying this since forever. From the top of my head Heroes, Channel, Chronicles, Rush all say that he's like the wind or free as the wind.
Bake new bread about how big NiGHTS ass is pls thxI'm thirsty for jester coochie
I'm once again asking for more underwater blobians
You guys actually read the instructions book of every game?
>>553021115I did back when they had instruction booklets
>>553020945NiGHTS isn't real, anon
>>553018526>Does that mean that Sally was the evil one in the 25 years later AU?what is funny is that this used to be a pretty common joke that queen Sally was fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnOrOxINvvs
>>553021204NiGHTS is the only real game character out there
>>553019906so you're saying there's a chance we get evil lanolin
>>553021115You didn't read the instruction booklet on the way back home from the game store when you were a kid?
>>553021204Shut up shut up shut uuuuup
>>553021420No I just played the games
sometimes to make myself laugh i like to imagine a crowd of people going "yaaaaay fastidious beaver yaaaaaaaaay!!!!!"
>>553021115...i actually dont know if my ps3 copies have anyi wasnt focused on them and I dont even know
Only autists read the instructions booklet
dr robotnik's diabolical traps
>>553019948queer
Going to confess The only time I paid attention to the little instructions book was in NiGHTS into dreams because nobody said a word in that game and I was too dumb to understand some stuff.Like bullying I never knew what bullying was until I was 16
Welcome to /sthg/, the Chris-chan general!
Marine
>>553020945I would if I could post such pictureshttps://files.catbox.moe/x70m7u.jpg
>>553022235>>553022235>>553022235
>>553019085god you are the same stupid, pathetic sonamyfag clinging to the movies, aren't you? Boom Amy IS Amy's personality now, no matter how much you try to bitch and whine the opposite. Sonic would have to give up his freedom if he ever dated Amy. You clearly have never been in a relationship because it requires sacrifice and compromise. Kill yourself, you absolutely retarded mongoloid.
>>553019906What about Jet?
>>553016946>rumbleI know archicucks love spinoff shit but this is absurd.>ForcesForces is one game and one that will be 9yo this year, grandpa. No, the games in general haven't been shit just because Forces was
>>553028408The games have been shit, Forces was just extra shit
>>553022381Nta- but nobody ever said sacrifice/compromise had to be mutual. Do you know how common it is for women to give up almost everything to follow their husbands? Im sure in Amys mind, Sonic compromises enough by risking his neck to keep her safe. If their relationship meant she'd have to be a wanderer, live on the land, and wait for him to come to her, or she has to follow him, Im sure thats what she'll do. Marriage can be just in name, JP, in secret-- whatever they want to make it.Part of being free is not clinging to sociatal norms and traditions like your suggesting. Amys character is already a subversion of expectation because sbe does all the chasing, is a fighter, and doesnt like her boring life as a city girl. (And because theyre fictional, they could definately make it work)
>>553009983Kill yourself you retarded nigger.
