Stop letting the thread die retards edition>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-hotfix-notes-version-1031>Small guide for players who are coming back to the game and want to queue DoN, suggestions welcomehttps://rentry.org/d5guide>How to host 6 players lobbies with seamless coophttps://files.catbox.moe/we1zur.png (embed)>Nightlord resistances chart (now includes DLC)https://files.catbox.moe/4pvan9.jpg (embed)>Main Information Documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit>Interactive Maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-betweenhttps://www.nightreignmap.com/en>Miscellaneous Nightreign Datahttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4>Group/Multiplayer PasswordergTouch Bloodstain: >>552867775
gg purple dog
Euporiabros ww@
sometimes ironeyes are alright
Died again for like the 5th time in a row award
Post 'em
thank you skorvan i was trolling so hard on revenant youre my hero
Good run Gigahorse. I can never get the lightning fists to drop when I want them.
>>553072237
thread jeeted
>>553072495Almost 1000 Executor games. What's your go to build currently?
>>553066137Yes nig it was very comfy, she was killing all the bosses with 3-4 fireballs tops
>>553072237Don't judge me
>>553071903it’s the end of an era. was fun but it’s over now. now we wait for the next batch of slop.
if only it was red or yellow
>>553072664Just double balancers + starting ash blood blade then stacking physical attack up +3/4 x3 on the deep relics.If you're fighting Heolster you can try the halo scythe with Dorman reapers too, Executor also has one of the highest damages with it, and if you want to get into meme builds you can have starting ash with seppuku then stab yourself 3 times for 60% more damage. It's fucking nuts.I'd love to use the necklace too but there are many times where my team early damage is shit and I fucking hate the unsheathe long recovery animation and it's way FP costly for me.Blood blade has become my favorite ash on Executor since I can immediately utilize the 40% skill damage now, it's very strong especially if you have starting frost (you can have it on the same relic) then can cast it on point blank range and it will proc both statuses extremely fast with Executor S arcane it's like you're just abusing status effects at that point.
>got into depth 5 solo beating greg with 0 negationi suck at routing but also do not solo invaders at level 2. maybe if you're scholar.
WHAT DA FUGI was not expecting that shit. The ambient sounds, the use of lighting, the fucking tension.All in like 45 seconds. Fromsoft really are breddy gud
>>553071213Kek
Help I'm in a run with an unknown Nightlord with a meme magic Raider
>>553075698Let him cook!
>>553074557routing solo is vastly different from multiplayer you just avoid hard fights and farm more of the trash
>>553075916Fuck me it was Everdark Dog and we almost won, but we got wiped with one bar, I'm so mad, we were playing so well
>>553072919Did Undertaker win you over the Recluse?
I kinda missed thisShame very few people summon for this fightI'm level 150, not sure if I'm overleveled for this
>maris raid when day 1 circle starts closing>teleports me into circle then disappears halfway through the fightThey need to fucking fix how raids interact with night's tide holy shit do they even play their own game
>>553076330Yeah I initially didn't like her because I though she was le epic dommy mommy but then I did her remembrance and turns out she's just a fucking weirdo that nobody likes also it's addicting to play with her, her skill and ult are so much fucking fun
No thoughts behind those eyesNo sense of self preservation, nor timingNo knowing when to dodgeThe only thing in his mind, is murder. And dying.I will never understand these people.
>>553077001Feet
>get given a colossal with stamp upward swing in the first poi>think the run is gonna go great>night one boss is going fine>sudden lag spike and everything starts sliding around>deathknights just skating across the screen and grabbing me>undertaker DCs>duchess dies to some random kindred of rot getting a crystal and loses all her runes>he rage quites>caligo invasion spawns while I'm solo and kills me with one tiny hail piece>just quit the game>still get -200 rankwell at least I found out that if you stand absolutely still, the calligo hail doesn't hit you
>haha both demon princes are hyperaggressive at all times even in solo! just like dark souls 3! haha remember?I REMEMBER A GIANT FUCKING ARENA WHERE YOU COULD SEPARATE THEM NOT A TINY FUCKING CIRCLE WHERE BOTH THEIR FAT ASSES ARE ON TOP OF YOU THE WHOLE TIMEI FUCKING HATE THESE RETARDED INBRED SHITEATING JEET DEVS SO FUCKING MUCH
>>553077001I like her because she does the flying stab of justice. When you run a trio of undertakers, half of the damage is just 9 of her ultimates in rapid fire every 30 to 60 seconds so it hardly matters what weapons your running.
>>553070219>be two games that are more complex than any From game>not have a reliable wikiNioh and DD not having a good wiki is fucking crazy. Since ER doesn't encourage going to NG+ despite having NG+ dungeons and Nightreign, even though it was the first game to do so (technically DS2), it remains much simpler than these other games. Nothing against DS, but theorycrafting is for memes and segmented runs. There's always the same dominant strategy. Where in these other games elements and other subsystems matter, and calculating how to exceed the damage threshold is more than just landing a good counter.
I've lost gallons upon gallons you guys...
>>553072237no bulli
yawnie
>>553080339holy dlc tourist shitter
>>553080339Cute!
Thank you, Libra. Very cool!
>>553081067skill issue
>use crystal spirit spring to jump to southern castle chest>randomly just come up short of the entire castle>plummet to my death???
gg gigahorse i was afk at character select so i didn't switch off my scytheslop build
>>553077001I hate when people characterize her as that yeah it’s so stupid and gay>>553079936DD as in Dragon’s Dogma?
Geegees Golden Uma. Whoever had the dormant great hammer relic cucked me immensely. Every drop was a great hammer. I never saw a single purple staff, let alone a staff that had a spell I could actually charge causing half of my passives to do nothing lol. It's crazy how much Glintstone pebble misses fulghor because his target zone is his torso.
>>553081750stop posting gachaslop images faggot
>any boss besides ed balancers - melt them in 2 seconds with reaperslop>ed balancers - 1bar at worm and wipeso this is the nightreign endgame
>>553081750It was meironically, I only got ONE basic hammer.
>>553081750kek, dormants affect teammates? did you get a bunch of reapers too?
>>553081918After the 4th drop in a row having a Great hammer in it, I had to look to check if it was just a coincidence.>>553081921There's a glitch that can happen where relic dormant weapons can apply to your teammates. Mirrion times folded code, you understand. Never saw a reaper though.
>>553081921there was confirmed to be a bug a couple patches ago that made other peoples dormant relics effect other peoples dropsthere was also a bug that made raiders punch do less stagger if you had the relic effectthese were both patched out and for whatever fucking reason both are back in the game now
>solo d5 hollowsFucking nightmare fuel. I think you need scholar to deal with all the offscreen trash that one shots you.
>>553081863Anon, I had to zoom into his image to even see a hint of the doro. You're the faggot for letting shit like this cause such a reaction out of you especially when it's evident you went looking for it. Use fucking filters if you can't handle anime images on the anime image board.
>>553082106Solo d5 in general is just horribleTried it once, took half of day 1 to kill a red church golem then a milisecond later I got raided by gladius to which I promptly alt f4'd
>>553081750i love doros
its crazy that beast claw literally functions perfectly fine on all pieces of terrain besides great hollows night 2 arena and nightlord arenas. like literally have never had an issue with it anywhere in the game except those two spots, the spots that arguably matter the most. this is literally a spell that you can start with now, how was this not tested or caught?
gg mystery dreglord god damn we are efficient
GG Mystery GregI couldn't see shit on my screen at melee range with all those AoW going around me. Also thank you for that successive axe lmao, I really didn't wanted to use that continuous hp loss twinblade
>>553082373retarded faggot
I'm just not gonna play any character with a gimped dodge. I know, I know... I'm sorry! It's just that I'm not gonna play one is all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
check out my amazing perfect relic with no flaws at all
>>553082814Only guardian has a bad dodge. And guardian mains don't even play the game.
>>553082792Terr melty lol. Everyone here hates you
>>553083390scholar's dodge is le bad
>>553083617Nah that was a psyop by guardian mains
DD and Nioh engine support more buffs than any From Software game. Not to mention the subsystems and itemization. And I'm talking about their respective first games.
>>553083390>And guardian mains don't even play the game.Why you are like this?
>>553083804ydptg
This is how birdjeets ''play'', 3bar then get carried
>>553084196Obsessed
>>553084319Ydptg
Eat the fucking shrimp, scholar
Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleeeeoooonnnnnYou come and goooooyou come and goooooo
loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams
>>553082373>>553081750>>553082479Continue posting doros please don’t listen to terr he’s always a cranky cuck because his general is dead
Red gold and greeeenred gold and greeeeeeeeeeeeeen
>>553084716This. Fuck Terr.
I am never reviving anyone during caligo again. I just lose the resource war, dunno why I forsaken my methods. Maybe because I haven’t fought her in a while
>dodging fishnigga i waited a half hour for this match
>>553084614>>553084702>>553084849evidence to support this?
>>553072237ahem
>>553083804it's a common trolling tactic to simply lie
>>553072237bulli
>>553086035433 games on this game's tricycle is a self-bulli
Zorban should try D5 solo on his stream
>>553086241ok terr
>>553085457Ydptg
>>553086309terr solos any D5 run easily
>>553086356English, motherfucker, do you speak it?
>>553086357Trve.>>553086489He's obsessed.
>>553086791You sound mildly upset
>>553086864Fruity
die die die wyldjeet stop breaking frostbite
gg i still dunno how to tell if it's regular or ed goat. does it show on the map when you enter?
>>553086791What is that gibberish suppose to mean anyways?
>>553087350You don't play the game
>>553082373>>553083440>>553084716>>553084857>>553086309>>553086357>>553087245Nasty curry scented dhalit falseflag posts typed by the terrjeet you hate to see it
>>553087437Ah, makes sense
>>553087501Terr is a retard
>>553087280Other anons have said the music is different when the fight starts. I have never had music on in this or any Fromslop game, so I cannot confirm/deny it.
>>553087774>>553087280if its ED, the phase 2 OST plays when the fight begins
>>553087280>>553087774Just look at the map icon when the fight starts
>nip meta is +hp, negation and ult charge>gaijin meta is tardmaxxing damagehm seems like nips don't go down as often in d5. curious.
>>553088017That isn't nip meta
>>553088017Erm, source?
>>553088132
Bane?
Why can't Miquella exist in real life bros?He is so cute and beautiful. I would do anything for him
>>553088017negation maxxing is the best way to consistently win gamesthe problem is fighting dogs/goat with something like fists or a greatsword - not only do you have less damage but the boss gives less opportunities to melee attacksure you can change to a different class for those specific bosses but when you get hit with mystery boss then you're going to regret a full melee team when night 1 triple death knights roll in
>>553088017I feel like that "nip meta" is just the most common D5 build regardless of region
honestly I hate the reduced HP flask restoration but this makes for a nice anti-dog relic
>>553088296fire negation against dogs is bait
>>553088201No one fights gladius with fists
>>553088296is fire really the problem though? getting bit by them is really what kills me.
>>553088448I just did and lost
>>553088464all their melee attacks are split damage but majority physical, so it helps a little bit
Boss-specific affinity negation is the strongest meta.
>>553088427you're right I should re-roll the effect on the second line oh wait
>>553088296you're still gonna get one shot
>>553088682The only boss I'm bringing something other than phys negation for is Caligo
>>553087501least obvious terr(d)jeeta false flag on the planet
>>553089178Why are you replying to yourself?
>>553088187gay pedophiles are the worst
>>553088187>t. mohg
>>553088017nips also dont have to deal with chinese
gg dragon
ggs ED caligo
gg my life
friendly reminder to kill the enemies next to the loot orbs after killing invaders! :)friendly reminder to ping when you're ready to kill your dog during the raid so you can all kill them together instead of just spawning dogs to rape the other two players! :)
>>553091112hmmm...nyo...
/erg/ is always shit flinging between Wylder, Executor and Guardian for some fucking reason when Raiders are by far and away the worst players on the worst class
>>553091112i'm getting used to things not working out it's funny sometimes
>>553091112>doing the dogs at allspotted the shitter.
>>553091239I have nothing but respect for fist raiders, the moment you pull out the griefbow that turns to disgust though
i dunno if you will read this but the invader is invisible for me
dead generaldead jeeneraldead 'gdead chatdead threaddead gamesdead fcsdead lobbies dead postersits nyover...
erg is finished
reading this thread from the beginning in one sitting gave me schizophrenia(ing)
>>553093285big if true
gg caligo i hate dogs
>>553070869>sometimes
>>553093643>>553093738gg caligo, did i shoot her down with frenzied burst? or was that you zabito?
>>553093778i didn't have ult up, you crashed her with no survivors
>>553078691They weren't hyper-aggressive in DS3 they took turns, you would know if you played the game more than once.
ggs animus
>>553093873Neat, was worth taking the glintblades
>>553094080whole run made me want to kms
>>553083785Niohs loot and build-crafting and customizition curbstomps the shit out of this game.
>>553094152kek understandable
>>553094083most obvious case of being carried by aushitnet iit
>>553088187>lore and gameplay brickDogshit taste
>>553092652dw i knew that was the case when you started attacking the air and standing stilleven more epic was augur just leaving while not being in rain
>>553094185As a Nioh autist that sort of loot system obviously doesn't work for NR, you're crazy to think that it would. Half of playing Nioh is being autistic about brewing your next item set and looking at googledoc spreadsheets. The other half is killing red phantoms to dupe Inheritable passives on their gloves lmfao.
Why do we fight the Dreglord if he is the enemy of the Night?
>>553094382you were host, everything was lagging out and teleporting for me. blame your net, not mine.
>>553094579Ask chatgpt
>>553094709Zesty
>>553094676ok maris
>>553072237Seeing these replies makes me feel way less bad about my ability. Here I was, thinking I played the game a lot. But I don't play half as much as everyone else.
>>553094579he can perform all he wants, he's still empowering heolstor in the endalso lookism
>>553094676are you dingle or slayer
>>553080339Blessed latecomer and DLC purist.
>>553094974He’s single actually.
>>553094974not me (slayer)
you being defensive about australian latency how its akshually everyone else's latency at fault is getting annoying
Are there any invaderbros left in this place or is it all nighterigners now? How are invasions on PC? I've not played ER in probably a year but I'm getting that itch.I'm considering buying a Switch 2 just to invade on it once the tarnished edition comes out on it but it's quite an extravagance just to feed an addiction. I guess I could always sell the console once the game dies down on it but I'm not sure.
>>553094185I wish I liked Nioh. There’s only two Souls ripoffs that I enjoy. Surge 2 and Lies of P. And I like those games less than the weakest Fromsoft souls ish game (dark souls 2)
>>553095492Do not play the vanilla game, do any pvp in the seamless co op mod and yeah its still pretty active
Fought ED Balancers for the first time, and it was legitimately scary. I was freaking out too much to really focus on what they were doing. My team and I fell a lot, but got up a lot too. We made to to over halfway of their second phase before dying. Eventually, I started getting the feel for the fight, realizing I can interrupt a lot of their attacks with a strong attack of my own. But by then, it was too little too late. Everyone was out of flasks, and 3 bar.
>>553095680Seamless invasions never really enticed me because of cheating and the horsefaggotry. Plus people can opt out of allowing invasions so I imagine at this point it's mostly just gankers.
>>553094974dingle>>553095440you were lagging, don't blame other people that's just childish
>>553095726Yeah, first time I saw ED Balancers for the first time was a proper jumpscare. It was like having 3-4 Labyrinth Madman swarming you but they also fly and are very bloody. Now I just imagine my team and I are being jumped by crackheads and huddle close to rush one down at a time asap.
>>553095880Well the vanilla game on PC isn't bad, its unplayable because of EAC and Epic Games netcode instead of Steam netcode so everything has an artificial 50ms latency added to it and animations are jittery + delayed which kills any pvpThe cheating isn't that bad in seamless and the horse is easily countered by those messmer fire homing orb consumables or that dlc bow with homing arrows
gg dog
>>553096321gg raw dogs wish they were cooked
>>553076516He's one of the best bosses in Elden Ring, period. Level 150 is fine for him to be honest. You might just have a ton of blessings that made him feel easy
>>553095941>>553094676doesn't matter who's host if theres an Australian it's going to be laggy regardless
>>553094434As an actual Nioh-elite upper echelon member, I'm telling YOU the relic rng system would be perfect for what is already in the blacksmithing in Nioh 1 which is what I was reffering too. >ability to swap or re-roll linesw>ability to curse and or bless items to upgrade and change curses/blessings (Abyss mode)>ability to upgrade the tier of loot
>>553095492>elden ring on switch 2Just a reminder that >95% of Switch users are on wifi>it keeps getting delayed because the switch 2 can’t run Elden Ring >multiplayer historically make souls game run substantially worseI’m going to get it too out of morbid curiosity but know what you’re getting into. If you are already getting or already own a switch for Duskbloods like me (huge gamble) then no big deal. But it seems likely Elden Ring on Switch’s multiplayer population will be driven out by the game’s initial unstable state and will never recover even if the game gets fixed eventually
kyuu kudasai
1/3 depthsplease join
>>553097553iyadesu
>>553097820I'm 1/3 liar
>>553097349I'm concerned too
>>553097349Yeah those are actually fair points. I probably should have just bit the bullet and rebought the game on my ps4 back in the day but I was stubbornly refusing to do so and now I have major sunk cost in not buying it on ps4.
>>553097238I meant when it comes to in-game run, you have to keep the loot somewhat simplistic because information-dense items don't gel well with limited time. One of the skillchecks in NR literally is reading fast and evaluating things fastI think reforging relics would be fiiine but honestly there aren't really that many effects to warrant that >As an actual Nioh-elite upper echelon member, I'm telling YOU Well I-i-i played the original Nioh 1 Ogress demo! With un-nerfed enemy aggro range!!!Take that!!!
>>553096104I guess I can try seamless but none of the invader streamers/jewtubers invading on it is such a red flag.
>>553098534Why not? I remember hearing about seamless a bunch in the invasion lol threads back in the day. Alot of that disappeared when those invasion threads stopped.
>>553097820gremlin? you have me blocked
>>553098616Seamless can go up to 6 players, invaders panicked when it was only up to 4.
>>553098675oh its the blocked
>>553098751what have i ever done to you
ggs dreglord
that's not me tho
>>553095726>>553095993I won my second attempt. The Duchess in my party had a brilliant plan. He pinged to the edge of the map, and then he shot comet azure as they approached. While me and the wylder spammed melee at anyone who got close. We were taking them out quick.The the Duchess was handing out heals during the worm phase. That one heal that gradually increases HP over time.For my part: I just stacked up a bunch of damage negation passive during our run. So I was very durable. Plus, I bought a couple of those perfumes that protect the party during our run. So I was able to provide some defense for my team as well.The fight really isn't so bad, as long as you don't get ganged up on.
>>553097820Are you accepting depth level 3 players?
gg dreg after how quick first phase was i figured we would be doing way more damage
why are you guys D4 what happened?
>>553099045he kept slowly crawling just out of my cr2s
>>553099045yeah phase 1 was literally free
>>553099035yeah why not?
>>553099035of course, i'm happy to play at lower depths
no triple rev?
who dodged caligo? why?
>>553098468>but honestly, there aren't really that many effects to warrant that Spoken like someone who can't into buildcrafting/perfecting. >ogress demo I did the demo that had the first mission, and back then the camera was almost over the soldier tier TPS. and even when locked on, William would face towards the camera exposing his back when the analog stick was pulled back, glad they fixed that for Launch. I got a code for the closed Nioh 2 demo as well and it still had the same UI for the Shrine as Nioh 1.
activity hour is fun
>>553099581>>553099589my game got a network error without even going to the char select
>>553099670queue again!
>>553099593>Spoken like someone who can't into buildcrafting/perfecting.Nuhuh, I ran westaboo hiddy and I run shield crash builds, I am the definition of a contrarian buildcrafter and sworn enemy of cookie cutter metaI also have an OoS OoE blood gem in Bludborne back when furge pilth was all the rage and I was here to call GodKingLucifer mean namesI am VERY old you WILL respect me and my veterancy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>553099405How do I avoid getting sucked up into higher depths?
>>553088187His halo scythe is currently the most broken weapon in Nightreign. He won.
>>553100109>His halo scythe is currently the most broken weapon in NightreignNah, its just consistently decent because its relatively easy to obtain and has relatively good damage type/range/speed combinationIts actual FP consumption to damage rate is kind of shit, frankly an equally optimized Discus setup clears it
>trying to queue elderdark balancers>get the DLC map>entire team quitsthey're literally just refusing to learn how it works, the crystal curse is too complex of a mechanic for them
>>553100109I think Radahn's swords will always be the best all around weapon that isn't Marais/Grafted memes. R1 ISA style play with Radahn swords is the easiest thing you'll ever experience in NR.
>>553100615they are probably more scared of mohg than the map
>>553100615They probably just think its unfun. People know where the crystals are now but they don't want to play the hollow period.
>>553100642I know this isn't what you meant but strangely enough ISA doesn't actually apply to radahns swords for whatever reason. Probably a bug of some kind.
>>553101125Yeah I didn't mean actual ISA just simulate the style to keep triggering the special move. I assume it doesn't work with ISA because it comes from that special move power so you might not actually be doing ISA even if it says you are, its starting off with an unique function. I love using it the way the devs intended and seeing my team start clapping and pointing and cheering.
what is even the point of radahn's weapon art when it always just makes more sense to do the starting r1 over and over
Queue d5
>>553101038I've been having a blast in the hollow. I like how strange it all is. I've played it about 30 times, and I'm still learning more about it.
>>553101463Much bigger aoe so you pull the bigger enemies that jump out of the way after being hit by the special move. You kill 99% of things in your ISA pattern then do the L2 if something stronger doesn't die in 1 hit. Also, all storm effects which his yell is make projectiles bounce off.
>>553101559I like it a bunch too, most don't and you know that. If you play the game regularly you know most people don't like the great hollow.
Is there any mods to add all Nightreign new bosses to Elden Ring? It would be nice if it replaced most of the reused bosses with them. Also the sprinting, jumping and climbing would be awesome even if it could potentially break the game.
>>553099197I demoted to play with my D2 buddies lol
absolutely bullied lmao gg heolstor
the biggest problem with the great hollow is just lack of variety. will that boss be a leonine misbegotten or black knife? riveting
>>553101852gghalo scythe and it's consequences were a disaster for humanity
>>553101901The boss variety is fine since its the same as the normal map, the gameplay of the hollow is identical every round.
>>553101925>the same "people" using the halo scythe are also the ones who drop their gear after victory
I forgot to save a clip, but Edel is getting stronger... He changed aggro mid-grab. sneaky guy.
GG. Don't think it's possible to luck into a better run. 2 18% and 4 21% skill up passives on every weapon.
>>553101852Well fuck you too
>>553102269>gging Adel
>>553102269>terr with Indian version of Moghgwyn trident
it finally became 2/3 and you stopped queueing
>>553101738Like I said, I've played it 30 times. That's an exact count. Because I've only played it with Undertaker. And 30 out of 32 of the runs have been the hollow. I've never had anyone quit out of hollow at the start of the match. I only had someone rage quit when we were losing badly at the end of day 1.So in my experience, I can't say they don't like it. I can't speak to randoms and ask them their opinion on the level.
>>553102451I see people leave when loading in on the hawk most games. Then everyone leaves after that. It happens pretty regularly. You and I might like the hollow, but most people do not. You know this.
ggs balancers
>>553083390I play the game, I just want to be friends with you guys
>>553102546>You know this.Like I said, I've never personally witnessed anyone quit at the start of a match. So no. I don't know what you claim to be true.
i will now forever remember you as the person who took gold scarab when someone else had reduced runes.
>>553102690So it must not be real then since it isn't part of your lived experience.I'll validate your feelings because that is what really matters.
gg harmonia 2.5k damage for a charged lightning spear was quite nice, 2 shotting them made that so easyseems they have about 4.2k health each, wonder if it would be possible to one shot them (without a completely busted run of course)>>553102738kek poor mellow
>>553102738KEK guess i'm sorry. usually i only check the first page what everyone is running since balancers meta, atleast a boring run got made funny in the end
>>553102872>mellow playing aloneI can't believe it.
>>553102810Thank you for acknowledging that it isn't part of my lived experience. Congrats, you are capable of perceiving the world separate from your own experience. Now, can you provide any kind of evidence that a lot of people dislike the hollow. You state it as if it's commonly known. But how can that be?
>>553102451>>553102546Hi I am a 3rd anon and I too like the great hollow. It has great music, great atmosphere and fun exploration. The crystal castles are cool and I learn something new all the time. But yeah I'd say a lot of people have negative attitudes towards the map, especially when it first came out and everyone's evergaol / night invader relics became less useful.
should i be a queue terrorist and use the password even though im d1 or should i cheat in impossible relics and be less of a terrorist
>>553103553Just queue and dont use cheated relics
>>553103553go grief a game it'll be funny
Found this recently, pretty nice
>>553103524Its beautiful. Wish people liked it more or wanted to explore more than just go crystal then towers.
>>553103784cheated + shoooped
>>553102269>>553102342Ggs
>>553103812I don't think I've ever finished a tower before. Castles are way better. Except the rot castle, I hate the red eyed cleanrot knights so much.
>>553103784
>>553088017The coward jap vs the brutish aryan
>>553102251i feel that happens a lot lately. just recently dreglord looked and walked towards someone only to leap at me at me all of a sudden, also projectiles changing targets
>>553104104oh hey I've got that top one too
>>553098738One of the main points of criticism for ER from veteran invaders has always been the low max player count compared to DS3's 6 player limit (host + 3 phantoms + 2 invaders).
>>553104085Towers are boring thats why I don't like that everyone forces them over the castles. I get why people do it over castles but its boring. The rewards at the top feel anemic after fighting 3 buffed bosses. >>553104228Felt like the odds on those starters having good secondary lines were seeded. I ended up getting one like that for almost every starter spell on rev.They even gave me a 3+ reapers and wrath of gold right next to a relic with improved reaper damage and dormant reapers. I don't even like playing rev that much but the game is straight up feeding me op builds so I'm building them.
>>553104085Holy castle is worse because of the single ice divine warrior. Just the most bullshit cheating boss ever
>>553104420he's not so bad when you realize you can just cheese him by standing somewhere up high and shooting him. trying to melee him is a recipe for disaster.
I can't find negation for the fucking life of me
I beateded everdark Adele solo first try, I'm the biggest boy!I was supposed to beat the jellyfish, I figured out the anti-bubble tac last time, but the boss had changed.
didnt check the merchant award
>>553105217unf
gg smol libra
>>553105437GG, I was hoping to keep the -6 bow but dropping less likely was smarter choice incase it was giga.
When does the ED rotation change?
>>553106015Every thursday
How the hell are you faggots having fun in depths 5?4 is a slog already.
>>553105213
>>553106461You don't like playing super safe and using every cheese you possibly can?
>Kicked out of depth 4 again>have to deal with dreglord’s bloated hp ass again for the rank up againNothing more annoying in nightreign than getting yo-yo’d in depths then getting an undesirable boss to rank up again. Every boss should be Adel without variance.
many such cases
>>553106590Don't post this it makes me want to kill cc
>>553106461Because anything below D4 is too easy and giga boring after 300+ hours, as simple as that.
>>553107089Would get a bit boring innit
>>553107089>getting an undesirable boss to rank up againThat's the thing, you won't be able to climb in D4+ if you still consider some bosses as "undesirable".
>>553107317If you think most random teams in D4 can handle>ED Libra>ED Gladius >ED Gnoster and Fartass>Heolstor and DreglordWell then I’d want the randoms that you’re getting.
>>553106461Stockholm after D4. There is probably a hyper small amount of people that enjoy playing like a speedrunner where 1 fuckup ends the run.
>>553107459Then play with the password once you are D4 goddamit.
ggs cheesed ED caligo powestancing rot poison rapiers did not work out how i imagined it too bad it was on the wrong character
uh gg ed caligo? armour glitch happened again so that was a cakewalk
imagine if you had an erg bf(female) haha
Just blocked my second player ever. He ruined the run by deliberately going a different direction than me and the other guy on our team. Me and the guardian were coordinated. But the Executor wearing the sable church garb, wanted to be his own man and fuck around the level solo, and accomplish nothing.
>>553106590>>553107202>kill an invader>clap clap clap>kill a misbegotten >clap clap clap>die to a wandering noble >clap clap clap
>>553107202sounds a like you and cc issue
>>553107923I did this to an executor that kept 3 barring all alone doing nothing. Only person I ever blocked.
>>553107923ah sounds like terr back in the day
>>553107948Why does cc do this? Is he autistic?
>>553107736nt on that starter camp least we pulled through
give me one (1) reason the game should make you do the backstab animation when you miss a backstab
>>553108105gg crossbow guy
>>553108105Nigga use your damn clawshot
why do wyldjeets make boring webm showing nothing
>>553108186pvp balance
>>553108241he also has hoarfrost stomp. unironically give us your name so we can block you. imagine wasting a relic slot on a starting weapon art only good for clearing the first camp and not using it
>>553107759I want to ERP as Recluse and get impregnated.
Have they fixed people not losing points for quitting at select screen yet?
>>553108241discorders don't know how to play the game bro. Look at shifty dying to the starter camp again. They are all hopeless.
>>553108359Looks like it's xhe deviljeet
>>553107089The only undesirable boss is Balancers honestly, the rest are manageable
>>553108359Viteazu Negru
>>553108325>pvp balance in a game that doesnt have pvp
>>553108105>>553108389gg starter camp, nice clutch
>>553108359>>553108241>play the game in the most boring way possible every time L2 spamslop! Both of you kys
>>553108382No but its coming. >>553108415Balancer and dreg are the free-est of wins. They are unironically easier than most bosses. >>553108484
>>553107202lmao
>>553108540jokeyour head
>>553108367Name? For ERP list.
>>553108415A demon made this post, you won’t fool me goatman.
>>553108389shifty isn't in the discord however
>>553108104xhe wants her ass to be clapped after the run and is signaling you
Lots of godlike players in the discord.Like Ytlaire.
>>553108790It just means outside group. You guys could be using AIM for all I care, you are an outsider group here.
>>553108623Oh did they put out a tweet/date on the fix?
>>553108389Shifty isn't a discorder doe
>>553108901incorrect + you're a shitposter who doesn't play the game
even doe there is appreciation channel
>>553108897>shyTlairelol, lmao even
>>553108623>Balancer and dreg are the free-est of wins. They are unironically easier than most bosses.If you're with a coordinated team maybe but I haven't won a single time in depths becauese everybody tries to solo one at at time in phase two and never ever tries to follow you to make distance even after you ping>>553108707Cope
>>553108938No just assuming since everyone knows its an issue. From not knowing or caring is possible but I see them fixing it. I'd personally make the penalty an entire depth rank each time.
>>553109134do you look like this?do you make deals?
where are all the revenants?
>>553109073>the same 4 months old picI expected something new
>>553108186Because ER's fluidity is a downgrade to DS3>>553108325They did this in DS3, and it worked perfectly fine. They decided to make it even slower and then patched it to make it faster but it still fucks you over for attempting to play the game.
>>553109073clap clap clap clap
>>553109308Don't worry, you're still dogshit 4 months later French brony
>>553109426how could you know, you don't play lel
am i gimping my team for not playing melee ironeye in d4/d5?
>>553109516nope
>>553109516You should play Guardian instead, he's tanky + cool and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>553109516>melee ironeyeDoes anyone really?Best ironeye player here doesn't.
>>553109516What a strange question.You are never forced to play one or the other. Just play good. If you have a RoB, you can dump your FP spamming L2 and then go back to your bow.
>>553109874meme from the sisters. They play every build as another character.
>>553109874Practism plays it whenever he gets a melee weapon
>>553109874>Best ironeye player here doesn't.Dude, when was the last time venomous played here?
>>553109874Devil knight uses ranged + melee from what I've seen
>>553086241Nah I won't bother, solo is boring you just play dormant fist Wylder with a crit build and murder everything
The only FromSoftware game I always come back to
>>553109996>>553110324Devil Knight, Practice, MAN-BIRD, cc and terr all vigormaxx and they have the highest win rates in ergMaybe the nips >>553088017 are right...
>>553110749no one cares about your lolcow thoughbeitorwhatever
>>553110652You seem lost, you should head over to /dsg/ to talk about DS2
>>553110810you seem jealous + incecure
>>553110749Show us the winrates lmao. Don't forget to clean them after they come out of your ass.
>>553110652hard to believe the n64 is 30 years old
>>553110870whats that?
>>553110749>highest win rates in ergYou wouldn't know that thoughbeit and cc literally L2 or magicbimbomaxxes as Duchess, what are you on about
>>553110652based
>>553109306do you look like this? do i look like this? i don't remember what anything looks like
gg the crab punishes and the crab rewards, that crab RoB lasted me the entire run even though I was on sorcery spec
Crab sama stronger than Adel. Where is Nightreign's version of Daimyo Hermitaur?
*backstabs you**no you*>>553109874why would you not
>>553111778In the crystal map
Is the top right landing point in hollow the best? I feel like I get to level 7 or 8 after killing the last lobster and going up the hillside. This is usually before the first ring even shows up.
>>553112142yeah it feels especially good if you have a scholar in the party
2/3 randos for ED Balancers get the fuck in here the other 8 billion people on this planet (ps5)
>>553112308>snoykek
>>553109874I'm not sure about the depths. But playing regular, this one time I wasn't getting very good bows. But I got elanora's pole blade, and proceeded to tear shit up. Of course, I already practiced dodging with wylder, so I could handle dodging with iron eye.
>>553112142If your team comp is set up for it, it's incredibleThen you load into red trolls when nobody has bleed, no ironeye, no scholar to nuke the church, etc and it's horrible
>>553112223Ironeye too. All those mimics being lined up in literal lines are begging for an ult in their direction.
>>553112142It's very good if it's lightning You can kill one of the mimic blobs next to the 3 roaming ant warriors and they chain react to kill them allYou can also kill the mimic trolls before they transform so can you retards stop ignoring the ants and charging straight towards the mimics and aggroing them? You literally cost us 5 minutes every time you do this dumb shit and end up wiping us when the ants attack us from behind.The DLC has been out for a good while so stop griefing and learn the fucking game.
>>553112396Its made up anyway. I sit in the lobby to see if they are telling the truth when they bring up PSN but its always just trying to hunt the ps4 anon. There's never a PSN lobby, found this out months ago when they first started trying to hunt the guy.
>>553112447Only irontards can snipe the mimics though
>>553112612Yeah, and in D5 it does not work anyway.
How is 5x ISA on ironeye with bow only to shoot
>>553112726Very strong but you need 2 bows.
>>553112754How hard would it be to get a second bow? I suppose may have to hit a mine to upgrade one of them. Invaders or another bow with frost / isa?
I want to play so bad but I'm 100% sure this is peak prime chink hours
>>553088017Deep of Night seems incredibly bad past depth 2, it's just a one shot fest unless you have somehow stacked enough negation.
>>553113238you should find one at the starter camp you land at. There are bow racks all over the pois you just need to find one.Its also ironeye so you'll get bows in your boss crystals.You'll get what I mean when you start playing the game.
>>553088017They also have zdps 20 minute nightlord fights
>>553113329>i actually have to respect the enemies and not just spam attacks like a retardZamn.......
>>553112604can you shut up? thankks
>>553088017It's like asian Darktide vs west. Everyone stays in the psyker cuckbubble with a gold toughness bot, and every game is 15 minutes longer.
>>553106461My friend group that I play the game with are all Souls games players who have played everything from Demons to Elden Ring, we're at Depth 2/3 right now and already are not enjoying the one shot fest.
>>553113595>Respect the enemies>Getting one shot killed by everythingNot how it works.
>open manta stream>see the usual cheering for you buddy
Just shave off Retaliate's cooldown by 30%
>>553114173that's exactly how it works though?ever done a SL1 playthtough before? it forces you to learn all of your enemy since one hit is death
>>553114331SL1 playthroughs are for retarded streamers and minmaxers, not for people who enjoy the game.
>Ackshually my friends and I were playing since King's Fields and we think game bad
Mohg is hard when your team deals no damage. It just drags out the fight and it really bad.
>>553114481Nowhere in the post does it say they think the game is bad. Deep of Night is badly designed, though.>>553114623Mogh sucks ass to fight since he shits out AoEs everywhere, has way too much HP, and if you fight him on uneven terrain it is even worse.
>>553114623If you fight that jew on uneven terrain, his STD-ridddled blood acts inconsistently.
>>553114403Not for people who enjoy the main game maybe, where you're so overlevelled for every fight that it's basically a glorified stat check.When I did my RL1/SL0 run of Messmer it was fun as fuck since I got to learn the ins and outs of all his moves, his AI and what the perfect punish timings were. On my original playthrough? I steamrolled him on my first try since he did no damage and I had a full decked out OP build - I didn't understand why people though it was kinoThis applied to PCR, learning all his moves made me love the fight. I think it's underrated.
>>553114921PCR is mediocre final boss, though. Radagon and Messmer are way better boss fights in general, PCR is just a visual and spammy mess of a fight.You can learn the ins and outs of a boss without gimping yourself arbitrarily.
Let's say I decide I want to suffer and play Bird.Would a "Damage Reduction at Full/Low HP" item affect how much stamina blocking with Steel Guard takes? Or does that only affect HP damage taken?
>>553114194>Open stream>Halo scythe >Close streamMIYAZAKI!DELETE HALO SCYTHE FROM THE GAME AND MY SOUL IS YOURS!
>>553114870That’s a great way of putting it.>>553114864>Deep of Night is badly designed, though.Objectively true>>553113736Stay the hell out of my havocs
>>553115146thats hp, if you want higher block value (and less ele chip) find a piece of gear with guarding ability
i dont vigormaxx doe
>Open Saint's stream>3 bar sword and board Guardian
>>553113243dude, that’s all the time. this games playerbase is 80 percent chinamen at this point.>>553112604you made xhim upset by exposing the narrative.
>>553115198Deep of night isn't fun since it is quite literally just turning the numbers up, and sometimes the players get higher numbers too. I don't understand how anyone thinks it is a challenge, it is just 'abuse the game mechanics so that the enemies can never hit you ever', or doing funny (but cheesy) shit like stacking damage resistance until you take like 10 damage a hit.
>>553114623mohg is an honest and fair fight. you just have to learn
>>553115126I thought so too, I couldn't see shit with his long golden hair if I was standing behind him. Then I realised I could just walk around to his front after he finished his attack chain so I could see properly. It was a fun fight and you really can't appreciate it when you can afford to get hit by every beam of light during his 7 swing cross combo
>>553114921>>553114403RL1 (base game) is kind of overrated. You can make yourself pretty overpowered. You die in one hit but you also chunk the bosses if you build right. RL1 0 scooby snacks seems like where the real CBT starts.
>>553115310Don't make me boot up my game and post you having 5x damage negation in every match.
>>553091239At least 80 percent of that is manufactured by the worst poster here dude.>>553089178You made it cry nicely done.
>>553110652Lovely gender affirming post sister! Posted it again award!
>>553115478Nah, I fought him head on like that too, he just isn't fun. Openings are too small, hitboxes are way too big, you can barely use anything heavy or slow since he is so spastic. Greatshield+poke is the way to beat him for that very reason.>>553115431Mohg is an honest fight in the regular game. In Nightrein he is a vigor check + flask taxer.>>553115605Yeah RL1 runs are not impressive to me since you can minmax super overpowered builds with all sorts of shit.
>>553115605RL1 base game is just abusing shield talismanIn SL0 you can bubbletear but even then you can get one-shot
>Recycled in lore>Recycled moveset>Recycled movesetWhat a fucking dogshit way to end the DLC, I bet I could make one of those autistic rant videos about this dogshit DLC
ggs gladius
GGs Doggos.
>>553115195they should just really patch it to be legendary
vigormaxxing does not mean damage negation
>>553114217By 1s. Make it tank 90% damage.Revise the colossal moveset, and have the great hammer and great axe droprate be higher for him along with the colossals.Move the current passive to Retaliate. Make a new passive.Make the gravestone count as a heavy shield vs enemy attacks and movement. Make standing on it ignore ground aoes.Give him normal dodge.
gg cold dogs I have no idea what I'm doing sometimes
>>553115964>>553115310Use the reply system you faggot ass brown freak. This isn't /dsg/ anymore, get that through your skull.
>>553106461Depth 4 is full of bad players who got there by sheer luck of playing a lot. Depth 5 is full of good players who carry each other. Depth 5 is easy mode because everyone is good, everyone knows what they are doing, everyone will share items that are good for each other. The hard part about depth 5 is getting 1 shot because no negation dropped.
>>553094434>>553097238>>553098468>>553099593nioh seems way too autistic for its own sake honestly
>3barring to heolster even with a stacked halo scythe build on duchessretards like manta are why this shit won't get nerfed
>>553116010same
>>553115985There's a great mod that does this, and a lot more, called Fun Is Allowed. All it really does is make the weaker characters actually function at higher levels of Deep of Night.Guardian, Raider, and Revenant all got huge buffs.
>>553114864>>553115198>plays "one mistake and you're mistaken" gamemode from the person that brought you FRC Depth 5 HMPH>surprised he is mistaken after one mistakeWhat were you expecting?
>>553116152
>>553088187He’ll only like you back if you’re a woman since he likes vagina
>>553116270It doesn't make it good game design to make the vast majority of things one shot kill you, anon. That's just boring and forces stacking tons of negation, or just cheesing enemies and bosses. You didn't play the game, and you sure didn't beat it.
>>553114194I thought it'd be easy since we had skill builds with early halo scythes but then...
>>553116482How do you keep getting in? Did you demote?
>>553116152>おい
>>553080339you wasted money congrats
>>5531126041 i have a ps5 now 2 I will NEVER play with you assholes, you're just trying to dox
>>553116418>forces cheesing with negation or forces cheesing with range/abuseor you could... play good? idk just a thought everyone here who plays at d5 plays like this and you even only need 1 negation to not get killed in one hit by nightlords, not even talking about how regular field bosses won't one-shot you depending on the character you play
>>553115763>RL1 base game is just abusing shield talismanI found that it falls off pretty hard once you get to about farum azula I also didn't build very defensively in favor of more damage. A lot of bosses you can just nuke the shit out of.
>>553116361>>553116152and a ching chong ding dong to you, young lady.pngwhat does the image say?
>>553116795>play good>never get any negation buffs to dropAlso you're just incorrect, you need way more than one buff to not get one shot, especially if you are playing someone like Revenant or Ironeye or Duchess.>inb4 'durr you shouldn't be getting hit at all as ironeye or duchess'It's bad game design to kill the player in one hit with he vast majority of attacks. Deep of Night, ironically, does not have enough depth to it to justify making all the enemies into massive piles of stats. They don't get new moves, new behaviors, or even new layouts on the map. It's just all the numbers turned up 100 to 250% on things.
>>553116270In bloodborne you are not on a time limit, have insane dmg potential, best dodge it's ever been and niggas like picrel are hard-countered by the gun parry.
The madness swamp claims another victim...
>>553116742>おいおい
>>553117265Yeah, this is something people don't seem to understand about criticizing Deep of Night's bad design. Bloodborne allows the player to be insanely aggressive to keep up with how ridiculous enemy aggro is, as well as playing well enough to where enemies can't do shit about you shooting them in the face and critting them 5 times in a row.Like half the characters stop working in Deep of Night past depth 1. Revenant is just flat out bad already, and only gets worse the further you go. Guardian and Raider have huge issues that you can only sort of negate with relics.
so how many attempts is it going to take me to learn ED balancers "blind"? i don't have time to spend 40 minutes per try>error you mistyped captchafuck you
Elden xisters will defend this
>>5531174431 hour of memorizing the l2 timings
>>553116418>make the vast majority of things one shot kill you1) Its a challenge gamemode, think of it as higher NG cycles for a game that doesnt have those2) That adds context to enemies, boss attacks and considerations. Because everything can be avoided by spacing/jumping/iframes, unlike other games like say, Oblivion. Some stuff you dont have to respect in base game is re-contextualized with higher damage values. And as a result engaging enemy becomes a different consideration. See the webm with crossbowmen above, but plenty of other examples can be drawn. Regular doot church is free at level 2, but Balancer/Red doot church can pwn ppl who underestimate it. Same for Red Wolf or Grafted Scion/Revenant, they have to be respected. Another example is Gaols: free level 2 in regular game, HORRID in Depths if you get Red beastly brigade/misbegotten/knights/etc.Or Greg super-fast double-slap. Or how Salvation Balancers are very much manageable once you get the tactic down but can be quite fucking scary later on.This philosophy applies to other games too, in Bloodborne a Depth 5 Pthumerian hollow-equivalent can oneshot a 50 Vig build if they dont run both clockwise metamorphosis runes. Red spiders turns from mild annoyance into They're In Your Walls terror that has to be managed post-haste. The funny Bell Maiden dingaling attack can suddenly become a deathtrap for a party of three if its in tight enclosure. And of course, how one could forget the humble Ritekeeper!MonHun G-rank operates under similar enough philosophy.
GG Heolstor. I didn't enjoy the meme ISA build.. more so when you guys gave me precision aiming bows.
>>553117537>peer-to-peer latencyNow what
gg heolstordidnt know the greatspear setup did pretty good dps..
>>553117472Same as it ever was.
>>553117649>>553117731ggs trish 3 barred as usual
>>5531177313cute
>>553117421Some of the design choices from the new POIs definitely supports that claim, like having rooftop snipers covering the boss encounter in the forges at D0 are mildly annoying and knock you over does like 30% of your life. In D5 they just one shot you. Pain in the ass unless someone gets up there and kills them first.
>>553116945I used a bleed/frost dagger and a poison dagger for the entirety of my RL1 setup since it felt like a fair fixed amount of damage. Except for Elden beast which I used two lightning infused straight swords at like +18 and I'm proud to say I didn't even use a crimsonwhorl to absorb his elden stars attack or any attack.For the DLC I had to switch to using the rot/bleed rapier but trust me it doesn't do that much damage. I think my winning PCR fight was 10+ minutes long but I enjoyed it.Romina was absolute cancer though sincer her phase change has no windup and one tick of it kills you instantly. She can also do the windup on a cooldown once she's gone phase 2 so you have to be really cautious of her. You can't rot/poison her either so you have to decide between saving bleeds/frostbites for phase 2 to try and avoid multiple instant death auras or just try to avoid it through cooldown instinct.
>>553117472>misstime your giga bloodhoundstep somehow>get hit>complainname?
>>553117731ggs, yes it's fun 3bd sama! you can stack up glass necklace fast with the PS running L1. and you can spam the fast crouch poke with hex on>>553117816nyo i didn't this time
>>553117472No, I don't know of anyone at all that defends the abomination that are the Horned and Divine Warriors, and then the super buffed versions you fight in Enir Ilim. When the DLC came out pretty much everyone I knew said that they were one of the worst enemies From has ever come up with. It's like they took everything that people disliked about Crucible Knights and jacked it up even further.>Infinite poise, cannot be staggered by any attacks at all until you completely break their stance>Infinite stamina, have attack chains that go on for like 5+ swings>Hit like a truck>Can't even be backstabbed>Resistant to most ailments>Not even worth the amount of runes they drop>>553117647Except in G-rank you can run setups that don't get you one shot killed except by the most powerful and telegraphed attacks from a monster. Every single attack from every single enemy turning into a 90% to 100% hp bar loss is bad, and that is the standard for Deep of Night.You can make a boss have to be respected without just making literally everything it does turn into a one shot kill, and Elden Ring enemies already have an exacerbated problem from 3, namely that they all have spastic flailing attacks that turn their entire body or most of it into a hitbox.Even on New Game + in most Souls games, you aren't going to get one shot killed by things, except attacks that were already capable of doing that.>>553117827Yeah that shit is obnoxious. If you don't have an ironeye, recluse, or scholar with pots and throwing daggers, you have to waste time jumping up to kill them, then you can actually do the POI.
>>553117803Thanks, adding to my collection. These things are so stupid when they hang in the air and delay, then quickly activate that one pludge attack, just dishonest design. >>553117910I shouldn't need to time it when I am clearly behind him, be less obvious next time sis. >>553118154see above ^
>>553109306>>553109317>>553109505>>553109134>>553108897pure sextalk about alabaster pole built…
>>553116418You are just stupid. D5 isn’t functionally that much different once with some negations.Then you realize these negations are functionally just a well realized HP system. So much so I would not be surprised if eventually either From or some other developer uses them as a mechanic.For instance, needing to get your successive attack negation up so you live two hits is just a better and more fun system than the general damage being high enough you die in two hits. Same thing to a lesser extent with full hp negation, it makes you use your healing inefficiently. We see this problem with base Elden ring actually. At a certain point you can just “stat check” too many encounters by basically throwing resources at them. With negations you need to manage them.
>>553117265>>553117421(cont. from my prev post)Anon please, I have 800h in Chalice Dungeons most of which were Depth 5 spelunking sessions and only sometimes a fightclub, hell I barely even replayed the main game>you are not on a time limitYou're on a Blood Vial limit as you can't restock. One layer: 20 vials. Thats it.>have insane dmg potentialMuch lower ceiling than NR, there are no x6 weapon passives, only your Bloodgems which are only marginally better than the ones you can get from the main game. Like, 7.5% better per one on a Korean phys gem? Nothing even remotely close to 35% from successive attacks on Glass Necklace or the Balancer relic.You also have uh, TWICE as less gems! No additional 3 slots for Depths or anything. Best you have in terms of amping your damage is uh, beasthood pellets, which also lower your damage negation.>best dodge it's ever beenAnon it has 13 frames. Granted a lot of characters in NR have the same but Duchess, Undertaker and Recluse all have stronger dodges than those found in BB.>are hard-countered by the gun parryLmao I invite to try your luck in coop in a game where you can't resurrect your teammates.Granted there are a bunch of reasons why some aspects of DoN are harder but there are plenty of details in which BB is no less brutal. Its the same game designer after all.>>553118154>everything it does turn into a one shot killEverything is an overstated. Its closer to what, like 50-70% of attacks maybe. IMO thats>Except in G-rank you can run setups that don't get you one shot killed except by the most powerful and telegraphed attacks from a monsterIdk anon, I think EX Bloodbath in GU would probably oneshot players with most of its attacks and would remove 60% of your HP if you try to lmaovalor thru it.
>>553117803the amount of DS2 lazysusan'ing in Elden Ring is fucking grotesque. Any time I think I'm being cheeky and getting a smart strafe in I get punished.
>>553117259>never get any negation buffs to dropIt’s a team game, the chance of nobody every dropping a negation is quite low
>>553117537i was already deflecting everything, with lag. now what?we got her to become basically malenia in blood phase 2 and she fucked us all in one combo (we were barely holding on before that)
>>553118378>Depth 5 is exactly the same except you are pidgeonholed into doing this one thing that is unreliable at bestYes, I understand exactly what you mean. You're still wrong, though. Needing to get a specific damage resist up passive and needing to have it active just so you don't die in one hit is shitty game design.
>>553108096you mean terr right now lmao>>553106461you don’t have the autism for it anon that’s what you need to reach 5, stay there and actually derive some semblance of enjoyment from it
>>553103553be a terrorist and record it i want to laugh
>>553118428>only 800h Rookie shit. And I'm not being dragged into this autistm but you aren't accounting for the HP bloat that nightlords have in D5 vs Bloodborne. Also, no 3x top tier blood gems and beast blood pellet on something like pizza cutter = you melt shit faster in bb than probably any other game except base ER.
does anyone have any tips for everdark libra?
Why does every bad Ironeye only grab like 3 items and why are these fuckos in D4
>>553118704Ask chatgpt
>>553118704yeah.
>>553117259>They don't get new moves, new behaviors, or even new layouts on the map. It's just all the numbers turned up 100 to 250% on things.You do not know game design. There is nothing wrong with tuning numbers. What makes tuning numbers up bad, is when the player has to make zero concessions for the increase in enemy values. IE a game like skyrim. You don’t functionally do anything different at all with increased enemy values. In nightreign, it 100% changes how you play. In a survival horror game it’s also similar, just making enemies twice as tanky with zero changes to their moveset fundamentally alters the game because of limited resources. Adding “new moves” or shit COULD be cool, but only if it actually makes the player behave in a new way. No, if you give basic hollows a whole new combo string it changes them less than giving them twice the damage and HP. Who cares if they have some new move you never see because they are fodder? The only way to make them relevant is to tune the numbers.
>>553095496‘Pilled fellow LoP enjoyer Think I enjoyed it way more than both ER and NR
>>553118471Delayed attacks combined with obscene tracking and turning like that does make some enemies obnoxious to fight, which is the entire reason people like to run cheese builds that trivialize some of these fights.>>553118704Get as many 'less likely to be targeted' passives as possible, I think the breakpoint for making his summons retarded is 12 points of it or so. They just stop tracking you eventually.>>553118697The Nightlord HP bloat is about as obscene as the damage increases they get. No matter how you cut it, this is just bad design.Don't even get me started on how the DLC is quite literally pay to lose with how you have a roughly 30% chance of getting the Balancers or Dreglord every time you queue up a DoN run, and if you get night 2 Mohg you are extra fucked.>>553118889Nobody is talking about basic hollows becoming more threatening. You are making strawmen to support your bad faith argument.
>>553118697>Rookie shitI rounded down but I didnt wanna say it was 900 because I am not sure and I am not booting up.Also reveal thy name otherwise you're not honorary bbg.>HP bloat that nightlords have in D5 vs BloodborneDuh, but the price of mistake is far higher with no revives and revive ults.
>>553117421>he doesn’t know Revenant is literally better than recluse in D5 in the current meta. The ability to just pop ult and unga down red POIs, and have stable damage all game long with beast claw is highly valuable.
>you have to roll three sizes>then roll four colors>then roll three slotsthis is just fucking unhinged, how do the japs even make things like this without feeling guilty
>>553118704If everyone gets less likely to be targeted, when he does the riot all the condemned fight each other instead of you then you can just bait the libra 's teleport and 3v1 him while all the condemned are busy having a brawl. But in D0 you should be able to just group up and drop aoe and quickly kill all the condemned first. There's also the important basic thing of learning his moveset, learning the hand movement and dodge timing of the sigils on the ground he always spams, keeping track of the turrets that always spin from right to left and keeping track of his telefrag. The fight is just a real mess sometimes.
>>553118597If your run is going well then you will have one of the several negation passives 95% of the time. This is probably higher considering both the merchant and invaders frequently have negation passives as a guarantee.The people arguing with you have at least 500 hours more experience playing in depths 5 than you do. I can understand the feeling of hating a game's design just from playing it, I hated and still do hate getting over it from a game design perspective, but you can't say that stuff unless you're qualified otherwise you come off as a shitter who got filtered and is mad about losing.
>>553119061Cheating them in is completely acceptable with how many bad passives are on the relics, even moreso with how many of them are on Deep of Night exclusive relics.Like yeah, wow, I want to start with 2 fire pots instead of getting a permanent +3 Vigor or infinitely scaling damage from killing Gaol bosses.
>>553119061its actually 6 slots in DoN. KEK!
>>553116094Bodied that freak>>553117803Wow, I thought this was BB at first. This shit looks taken straight from the CDs. Minus the lazy enemy design and attack though
>>553118154Who the fuck “dislikes” crucible knights, they are fun as fuck
>>553118980>>553119063>Get as many 'less likely to be targeted' passives as possible, I think the breakpoint for making his summons retarded is 12 points of it or so. They just stop tracking you eventually.that's a cool tip thanks :3
>>553118980That chart doesn't show the other modifications the enemies can have such as being blue from an invader camp or red for dropping weapons. The damage and HP of those can get even more retarded.
>>553102395He can’t help but show off his heritage every chance he gets. Dalit tendency, you see.
>>553118980Bad faith argument? What I did is completely dissect your’s.You made the bad faith argument of >they just change da numbas so it’s le bad And I explain I detail how that is completely wrong using examples across not just the souls series but within video as a whole. Unlike you who just shits out complete non points because you don’t actually have an argument, because you don’t even know what you’re talking about, because you don’t actually play video games.
>>553118704>Darkness DuchessQueue up with an erg bf (me btw)
>>553119167No, I just got bored of Deep of Night really fast once I saw that it doesn't add anything actually interesting to teh game, it just pumps the numbers up and sometimes gives the players a few extra passives.>>553119194I like Crucible Knights, I am stating why people dislike them.Horned/Divine Warriors are everything people did not like about Crucible Knights, but made even worse, to the point where even I cannot defend the design of them even a little, and I just tell people to git gud against Crucible Knights, they are fun to fight once you learn them.>>553119295That's what the R means, that's a 'Red' enemy. So yeah, they are extra retarded, they probably can one shot you like 3x over.>Red POI elite enemies and bosses have higher damage scaling than the Nightlords
>>553118980>daaaa hp bloat saaarD5 bosses take under 5 minutes, who gives a shit. Play monster hunter >pay to lose >including dreglord Dreglord is easy as fuck. Balancers I will give you because ED.
>>553098373>>553097349>>553095492Anyone earnestly considering a switch to play ER (and likely DB) is more or less burning their money with shit like pic related in existence
>>5531190612 perfect lines is good enough to be CEkino in my book
>>553119379i just come here for tips and tricks and help, i play alone with randoms or with my one friend otherwise since everyone here seems like a pro gamer that hates retarded noobs like me
>>553119501I like Dreglord and think he is about as honest and as fun to fight as Heolstor.Balancers aren't fun most of the time and neither is Mogh as a night boss.Getting the Great Hollow is also just a bad time.
>didn't own nightreign before>any time I saw it people were saying ironeye was the best character by far>they said he should be in every team, and routinely is>actually buy the game>don't see ironeye picked that much>not impressed by ironeye>not impressed by the ironeye players I do seehuh?
>>553118597No, I just explained how it’s good game design. Needing to manage negations is way more involved, has actual agency, over just having a default set of hits you can take
>>553119524>PvP game in a console full of casuals who only want to play bing bing wahoo to destress and regress to their childhoodEither this kills PvP forever or From will finally start playing their own PvP and improve it for the next game (LOL)
>>553119484>it just pumps numbers upYou already got brutally ass raped here>>553118889You don’t know game design.“It just pumps numbers up” is not actual criticism or insight. It says nothing. It’s as hollow as you are, incel.
>>553119061It’s called padding out play time by making things needlessly inconvenient. Need that retention, gaijin
>>553119484How fast is really fast? I got bored of base game after maybe 30 hours because every run was free and boring. It was only DoN that let me enjoy playing and I've got 1000 hours in it now. Surely you're not arguing with a bunch of sweatlords about how their sweaty version of the game totally sucks while you have sub 100 hours and only play normal mode right?
>character select>he's hovering guardian>wait to see if he swaps>he swaps to rev>alt+f4
>>553119630…the great hollow is objectively stronger than the base map while also being faster paced from a gameplay perspective….why are you parroting day 1 thoughts when no one knew the map. You don’t even play the game
>>553119524ohnonono shitchtroons can't catch a break
>>553118704you all need to kill the clones or you will losesudden death works now, use it>>553119879>quitting ever
>>553119967Navigating it sucks ass, the map is worthless on it.
kind of funny how the DLC actually gave us even less build diversity. Not sure why /erg/ defends this
Good run GigaCaligo. Not sure why she randomly shot down another crystal. Don't think i've seen that before but she's also a glitchy boss to begin with.
>>553119642Ironeye was a D0 king he’s still decent but mostly played by cowardly shitters nowadays
ggs ED caligo funny awkward moment of no one ulting
>>553119879Revenant is good
>>553120135Sunk cost, mostly. Imagine putting 500+ hours into a game mode that probably took the devs like 5 minutes at most to go into the code and go 'Damage_mult=250%' for everything, and then shipped it.>>553119818Got to Depth 4 and got bored with it just being a one shot fest, looked up the numbers, and was justified in thinking that the game mode is boring.
>>553120118>why don’t I intimately know this new mapOnly thing that is worthless is you.
>>553119967I think the main problem people are having with it is that it shows up rarely, and yet it requires you to build up map knowledge to a much more extreme degree than the base game map.For example, people still don't know how to navigate the fucking mines in the old map. To them it's all just A to B with some memorization of field boss spawns and convenient jumps.Hollow requires that you know pathing through multiple interiors, separate floors, specific locations of crystals, paths to the center, it's ridiculous by comparison but once you do know the way you get pretty fucking close to level 15 day 1
>>553120284>the numbers There it is again. You got brutally ass raped >>553118889“But the numbers!” Is not criticism. You don’t know shit and are assmad you got filtered while everyone else is enjoying the game.
>>553119967>…the great hollow is objectively stronger than the base mapWtf are you talking about? You only get 1-2 invaders at most and no gaols. A few extra RNG boss drops are not enough to make up for this, before you say it.
>>553120320No, the map quite literally does not show you as much information as it should, for navigating the multi-layered design and the castles.>>553120452Anon you need to find something better to do besides go 'no you got ass raped because getting one shot killed is actually good game design'
>>553119879The other day a rat was hovering on Ironeye and swapped to Guardian at the last second, motherfucker 3 barred at Dreglord in the first phase
>>553119967The Great Hollow completely invalidates taking several types of relics that give you buffs on clearing specific POIs. That's just stupid and petty because people were using the Evergaol relic to be able to chew through the obscene HP scaling on Depth 4/5.
>>553120532See>>553118889All youve is when about >but the numbers!!!!!You don’t know video games. You don’t know anything really, because you’re a retarded incel who has failed at life and spends his time getting milked as a lolcow on a Tibetan shadow puppetry image board
>>553120532>>553120118great hollows is worse than limmy for sure but not being able to navigate it is kind of a skill issue
>>553120690Here, let me quote you again so you can quote your own post for the fourth time, surely that will make your point more valid.
>>553120523>a few You can practically max out on the entire assortment of passives. It’s the other way around. A few gaols means fuck all to consistently getting a complete build. You can also get night end passives on great hollow
>>553120767Some parts are sensible to navigate, like just going around the outskirts of the map and breaking the crystals, but going through the like 4 different layers of the map when the map itself only tracks 2 layers is dumb. The castles are also obnoxious to navigate since again, the map doesn't work on them at all, and if you happen to die in one it will spawn you in the most absurd location outside of it, usually on the complete opposite side of where you died.
>>553120848I will reply to it because you make the same Butt the heckin numberinooooooss Get mentally raped you miserable incel. You don’t know shit about video games, arguments, or how to live life in general
>>553120885>You can practically max out on the entire assortment of passivesand its completely RNG with no consistancy and plenty of the mini bosses in castles can just drop blueslop. I would rather take a 100% consistant 40% universal damage increase for the entire team, sorry if that hurts your feelings
>>553119967>objectively strongerhow?you can get super fucked by your seed, east castle being holy makes it nearly unusable, there's only 1 invader camp and 1/3 it's the church so 1 invader, if you have bad crystal luck then you have to go out of your way to get crystals - if you do this day 1 that's less enemies you're killing so you're underlevelled/undergeared for triple death knights/demon princes, fire castle is objectively worse than magic castle, night tide damage debuffs make weapons unusable and there's plenty of times i've had whole parties lose a level to the rain, if you do a castle at the start of day 2 and you lose the circle 50/50 then you're forced into doing tower, there's a lack of easy stave racks/seal tables (I know there's 2 in the castle and they can rarely drop purples but that's day 2 minimum and they can just as easily drop 2 white staffs), merchants are less easy to access especially when the circle is closing since the central one will get engulfed immediately, mines suck both in positioning and since they're dead ends means they waste twice as much time as normal, getting to the castles sucks from anywhere other than the big spring in the center - east castle has to be accessed from the north bit which is somewhat easy or the south which is a 10 year trek and you can't get to it directly from below, west castle has the bridge which is broken for whatever reason so you have to drop down then jump a gap then climb up then walk through sewers/trek round to the front or go all the way to the spring at the far back, the starting camps are so high variance alone that it completely changes your runthe crystal power is cool though
>>553121118Oh yeah, having to start your run against a Kaiden Mercenary camp is deranged, they one shot most characters even on like Depth 2.
>>553119815how is he an incel though
>>553121118>forced into doing the tower You’re never forced into the tower >invader camp The only relevancy invader camps have nowadays is hunting for negative affix-less negations. You don’t ACTUALLY use invader slop and gaol relics do you?
>>553120690>lolcowdragonirian schizo?
>>553121118>day 1 underleveled You can easily be level 12 on day 1. Why do you fags still act like it’s dlc launch with zero routing.
>>553121230I'm not, I am a chubby chaser.>>553121019Making the enemy attacks one shot you more often doesn't fundamentally change how you interact with them, it just makes it so you need to stunlock more enemies to death.>>553121273The tower is kinda worthless since all the bosses in it are rarely worth the effort of fighting.
>>553116642Demote? Nope, just luck I guessIts a weekday so that probably helps
>>553121228>find claws from the first corpse>bleed them to deathits that easy
>>553121407>filenameYou just know this retarded incel is going to kill himself
everyone should just ignore the claymen and go for the crabs and jellyfish honestly
>>553121228I like Kaiden start actually, it gets you level 3 quick and gives a passive. The problem is where to go after. I personally like going to the church even if it's condemned but there's too many anons that don't know how to clear it even though it's as simple as killing the wolves/demis outside a normal church.Church start is also goated since you finish at level 6 as the first circle closes but you really need some strong early game on your team otherwise it's miserable.The worst spot by far is central south where there's fucking nothing and you just run to Kaidens anyway. What the fuck were they thinking with it?
>>553121230bro he’s typing multiple paragraphs that consist of >the developers change the numbers so it’s bad And despite the entire thread shitting on him he’ll spam because it’s the only form of social interaction he veys
>>553119524>can’t run a 4 year old gameGrim.>>553117265>>553117421>>553117647>>553118697>>553118980Bloodborne was way more fulfilling and satisfying than DoN though. Don’t know why but it just was.
>>553121470>get good RNG>it's that easyI don't struggle with them since I play Guardian and you can infinitely stunlock them with his whirlwind + charged halberd attacks. They're still not fun to fight as your very first enemies since they have way too much poise and inconsistently get staggered by most attacks that aren't pancaking them.>>553121512I saved that image from this very thread, because I knew reposting it would make someone like you upset.>>553121563I don't mind the Kaiden mercs if I am playing Guardian or Wylder since you can stunlock or bleed them super easy, but it is somewhat annoying. A lot of the spawn locations in the Great Hollow just seem like an afterthought, people were telling me that the map wasn't playtested and it kinda shows.
>>553121563Central south is the most stable though you can go either crypt and below the east side keep or the Kaiden route depending on where the night invader camp is. Worst is the north spawn with the lobsters, but even this is team dependent, it’s insanely good if you have scholar for instance
>>553121683Bloodborne's Rally mechanic being built-in enabled you to play way more aggressively even if the enemies hit hard as fuck, since you just hit them back equally hard and get back most or all of your HP.ER and Nightrein both should have had Rally in them, it just enables more playstyles.Also you always had a really good way to parry enemies in BB by shooting them in the face.
>>553121683Because Bb's combat and overall world design is more fulfilling. When you hit something in that game or dodge it just feels good.
How are you supposed to beat ED Libra without a competent team and OP loot?
>>553121563my ass is not doing the fucking zamor church. The imps are some of the worst mobs in the game and there are tons of them all over the place.I think top of the ruins to the north is fine. NOT that shitty ass basement/first floor.
>>553121708>I am a retarded incel who uses the internet so much they care about what anonymous posters on a mongolian shadow puppetry board think and I routinely get made fun of so I concoct revenge fantasies where they will totally get upset by the images I save Could have just said “I’m an incel who will kill myself”
tard wrangling manta is not easy
>>553121852>Scholar with linked enemies take damage constantly>Link the entire camp of silver tear slimes and nox bitches on ants>Throw one lightning pot at something>Everything loses like half their HPdelicious
>>553121852if you anyone starts with stomp its gg no re.if its a wylder/wylder/ironeye zdps start then doing both the lobsters and the trolls/crabs can be brutal.
>>553121858Er and nightreign do have rally
>>553122013Only those two options, unfortunately.>>553122015Yeah the imps are real assholes on any depth past 1. God forbid one of them is a red enemy.>>553122157You have to take a relic for it in Nightrein and it is not nearly as good as BB. You only get the Rally Great Rune at the very end of the game in ER so it's worthless.
>>553121273You are forced into tower if you clear 70% of a castle at the start of day 2 and the circle is on you. Sure instead of the tower you can uhh go to the mines and do the one boss that's near the night 2 arena but that's it.Not listening to any more opinions from a guy who avoids invader camps>>553121394Because if you get bad field boss RNG then they're all shit non-red bosses that give no souls/giga red bosses that you don't fight day 1 >>553121273and the church/west ruins aren't in the circle. This is pretty common. You can't see which field bosses are what and since there's a good concentration of crystals you're better off going to the center instead of going to the east ruins.It's pure seed luck. Sometimes you just get white demi queen, white misbegotten, red DTS, miranda plant and a red Red wolf as the boss selection in the first circle. It's like when you can a top right circle that avoids the castle and has no invaders in the base map. There's nothing you can do
>>553122247Demi queen and misbegotten are always free kills, to be fair.
>>553122247Wait you’re seriously some d0 retard running invader and gaol slop? No wonder you think the free win map is actually bad
gg dreglord clean killterr my catk weapon.. i wanted to dupe it
>>553120767b*cky s*x
>>553122247The castles are so broken and loot dense that you can spend the entire day 2 clearing them. You are never forced to do tower.
>>553122430lmao did he pinch it from you?
>>553122378Free kills yes but they don't give good loot that's the problem I'll take a red tree serpent any day>>553122415I don't run invaders on half my builds actually, but you have to be the real retard to avoid them when they're free runes and godly passives.Name? For the scared shitless of invaders list?
>>553117537>just parry bro
>>553122725Who says they are being avoided? >nameOH BROOOO don’t tell you play with the shitters here! Nice self own,
>>553122557dropped it for ascute to dupe, he dropped it for me then terr yoinked iti will have my revenge
>>553121362I think it is but normally he doesn’t address people like that
GG Dreglord.3cute sama, Terr I kneel that was peak performances from both of you. Got him stance broken 3 times in each phase and even got anime crit finish. >>553122430I think I duped one of those and dropped them maybe. I should've noticed your gear more though and routed to mine, maybe next time I will be more perceptive.
>>553122247>invader camps Who still rates this slop
>druggie anon avoids invader camps and doesn't use invader relicKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOO
>>553122554The castles do have obscene amounts of loot in them, but they still suck ass to navigate.You also just can't even attempt the stupid hippo if it's in there, god forbid it is a Red enemy. Last time my friends and I did the castle, we got a Red Rotten Erdtree Avatar, and the rot pools were quite literally doing almost 40% of our HP bars a tick.>>553122725I usually get some decent passives from them, at the very least. They die so fast that it's always worth killing them even for a just 'okay' passive like holy ground at low HP or +10% to hp/fp/stamina.
>>553122876darn thats pretty rude, i thought everyone in erg had figured out dupe etiquette by now
>>553123089nothing sucks to navigate in hollows. stop having issues pertaining to skill
>>553123018t. throws all of day 1 at the invader poi and half of day 2 reclaiming their runes
>>553123018dunno why he keeps replying to people in the thread and trying throw his opinion into discussions when everyone knows he's a shitter and he doesn't want to play with us or show proof of his gameplay
>>553123089>it’s le hard to navigate No, it le isn’t.>the hippo is le impossibleNo, it le isn’t. It’s one of those things you can do for free in 20 as the rain rolls in like the fucking dragonkin in noklateo.
Friendly reminder to unblock trish please... don't be rude..
>druggie anon is an unironic ydptgite
>>553123147I'm sure it is fine once you have gotten to play it for like 50+ hours, but learning the map sucks with how much stuff is spread out, and not labeled at all.>>553123284The hippo isn't impossible, it just is a waste of time to fight.
all your cr2 passives are belong to me
>>553122432kys brown pedophile
>it's actually druggie anonKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>553123018>>553123307>vagueposting >4chanx filenames>shitty zoomer memesThat’s how you kill yourself before 30 folks
>>553123349you're here shitposting 50+ hours a day, i dont see what the issue is
When are they going to double Revenant summon HP
>>553123349How is it a waste of time when it takes sub 20 seconds and you can do it literally as the last thing you do in the castle? It’s literally free loot, the only thing more free on the entire map is the same boss spot with the duo.
>>553123551Never, best we can hope for is no more nerfs
yaaaay beat everdark libra with cool randoms it really does become a lot easier when you focus the adds and have enough damage for it
>>553122925>6th sense still active3bd is so cool...
>>553123551Play the mod Fun is Allowed if you want Revenant to be good, otherwise get used to only using Wylder, Ironeye, and whoever else is currently considered meta.
>>553123667>whoever else is currently considered meta.Revenant is meta to an extent right now,all the chinks go revenant with CE kino bestial builds
>bro loses like 200k runes>just quitsunderstandable, have a nice day
>>553123920god i wish that were me
>>553119524I personally am less concerned about Duskbloods because it isn’t open world and it isn’t going to be a port. But I understand your justified skepticism
>>553123360>>553123617cr2adds
ATTENTION ALL THREAD USERS Druggie anon is in the area, attempting to give unwanted advice to unsuspecting victims. He may attempt to convince you to kill the castle's golden hippo, tell you to run ED Gnoster relic instead of night invaders or make other harmful statements. He has no qualifications to make these statements as he refuses to post proof of his record and despite inserting himself into thread discussion he hates and refuses to play with the thread. Please be careful!
I hate ED Balancers so much it's unreal
>>553124319You need to use the internet less
>>553124350What was that, I should only run 1 balancer relic and no invulnerability restage on affinity Duchess? What great advice!
>>553124336>my team tries the reddit coward strat of kiting then one at a time and we see 5 fucking worm phases >still lose the only way to actually win is just group and kill them asap
>>553124336I don't like the Balancers in general. Gank bosses with grab attacks, teleports, ranged AoE spam? Their only saving grace is that they do pure Physical damage and can be stunlocked by a lot of things.
>>553124041I too wish to be an immortal doll that wears frilly clothes
>Got to 5250 with depth 4 randoms>Just won with a raider that spent the whole game charge attacking with a medium shield.>Beating bosses I could barely touch before like ED dogs and ED bugsBrehs I'm thinking I'm gonna make it. *Gets oneshot by teleporting flying monkey while sneezing and drops back to depth 3*
Based proc
>>553124532It was “you need to use the internet less”, which is great advice
>>553124667>proc
>>553124573>5 fucking worm phaseshow is that even possible? Isn't it HP gated? I thought the fight was highly scripted so you usually only get 2 or 3 worms
>>553124573wrong, grouping up causes all of them to sprint towards the group and trigger 4-5 special attacks at once and frametrap oneshotting the lobby
Does anyone know how ED Libra's madness mechanic works? When you hit him normally he will sometimes go mad and start attacking the condemned. That might make him a bearable experience.
>bro pings his personal objective day 1>it's the other side of the map>he unironically starts running for it>the other player fucking follows himas a new player I gotta say, deep of night ensuring the good players are nowhere near your fucking queue hurts pretty bad, these people actively do psychological damage to me, I'm just trying to grind out everdark balancers for god's sake
>>553124640Shield bash/crash is extremely good with balancers
>>553124878The fire chariot shield rapes caligo insanely hard
ggs ED fulghor he was just sperging around dumb horse
>>553124876I like helping people with their character quests but undertaker's garbage 100% needs to be done solo on a suicide run
haven't done ED horse in a bit, thanks for the carry lol
>>553124776If I had to guess it’s based on how many balancers die, when you deal zero damage to the overall health pool besides one individual balancer it takes forever
>>553125007Sure, if they ping it and it's nearby, but day 1 right after we land? Nah. You wait till we make it over to that side of the map or go do it solo day 2.
>>553122876>>553122430>exejeets being thieving low lives just like irlNo surprises there
how am I supposed to play with these kinds of people
>>553125397What is his game plan??
>>553123234and I don't know why you discord fags are still here, plus i've proven my shit enough. I assume you're talking about me, I smoke a LOT of weed.>last attempt of the day (time) ED balance>one rando leaves before day 1 boss for no reason, never returns>me and other rando shred everything in tandem not seen since chrono trigger>until day 2 which two shots us because of course it doeswell that was a good waste of 40 minutes and clutch timing on the volcano forge. i sure am having fun.sometimes I wonder if I should just solo these complete bullshit challenges.
>>553125397If he’s fighting a holy weak boss that’s fine and based
>>553125397pee on them
>>553125492Isn't getting one shot killed fun? I sure love playing a game that takes 30+ minutes and getting everything invalidated by one attack.
>>553123419>druggietroon unc meltykino
NEW JEEKINO JUST DROPPEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFvlIOhgyU4
>>553123234>>553125492awful samefag, no one cares about you
>>553124264>>553124667>>553124750you seem a little… obsessed?
>>553125665How many more buzzwords can you use
>>553125664play wylder and you can get two shot
>>553125007the great hollow objective isn't even that hard if you just lead them there either from the tower to the south or after using the unsealed spiritspringand there's always a nice reward there for you, a selection of talismans
>>553125710bruh>>553125664yep I sure love getting dogshit all round finally getting some cool weapons and then remembering I have NO negations. my ult as exe is basically "give taker a free ult" too its not great to use for itself. and the free heal.
>>553126303I think that the damage as a whole needs to be turned down so you actually have a reason to take passives besides negation at higher difficulties.
>>553122878false alarm it was just the junkietard kek
>vaguepostingThis is the saddest shit. You're already hiding behind a keyboard and screen you tucking pussies lol
>>553126773terr
>>553126832terr
imagine being so insecure you refuse to give (You)s
>>553123298Being an annoying latinx pest is pretty rude tbf
>>553091096God that movie was so funny>>553093094>>553093285>>553108324Shut the fuck up terr
why are you posting out of context brainrot words the CIA made up on /pol/ years ago? exactly how brainwashed are yall? inb4 yall, intentional.
>imagine being so insecure you refuse to give (You)s
>>553126303>bruhthirdie thinks airplane mode or double posting is impossible, the fact you even posted this is proof you samefagged like no way you’re this stupid
>druggie still providing free entertainment with his lolcow meltieskino
>>553127142you think I care enough to F12 script edit and remove a you that actually genuinely isn't me just to reverse troll some trolls who always tell me to kill myself here? deranged.
>>553127545I dunno what is funnier, people going that far about that, or the guy screaming about how he 'ass raped' someone who thinks Deep of Night scaling is bad.
>>553127545…no one said you did that, is that a Freudian slip
>>553127749deep of night isn't even that bad but the point system is unhinged I ain't playing that many games with randoms IN A ROW for a depth number that doesn't do anything. saint is lucky he has a community to do that with.
>>553127749Damn he really did ass rape you huh you’re still seething, ass raped so hard it broke your mind
>>553127918im telling you the truth and you can't tell because you are irony poisoned. I have never in my life edited a (you) I do not care about that shit, go back to discord please.
>Godfrey's axe is completely unusable on Raider, even just for using it as a buff stick because of his charge attacksHoly fuck why did they do this to him
>>553128128No one said you edited a (You) retard the fact you keep bringing it up means you in all likelihood did
https://x.com/jose_bonn/status/2009115126574797172
>>553128224its not my fault you can't follow a reply chain for 5 minutes. do you need IDs?
my posts arent meant for you. i am responding to a guy from 2 weeks ago
>no ED Dreglord for next rotation
>>553128329>>553128402Why are thirdies like this
>>553128242>westgroid faggotryno thanks, even AI slop is preferable
>>553128167Godfrey's Axe does feel like total shit to use on Raider, is it not just me? It seems so bad on him, the attacks take forever to come out and don't do nearly enough damage/stance break.>>553127940250% hp and damage scaling is pretty bad.
>>553128450>she doesn't know
>>553127940>but the point system is unhingedWhen you realize it is meant to force an average or aggregate instead of infinite growth it makes sense. Touchy topic though, reveals things about people they don't want revealed.
ggs I didnt realize you can get 2 charged attack modifiers on 1 weapon
ggs libra i was laughing my ass off the entire run when you ulted yourself between the bridge at the castle man i have tears in my eyes
>>553129546Why the fuck charged attack bonuses does not apply to charged guard counters anyways?
>Another DLC map run where I'm completely lost because the chink Duchess just keeps pinging weird routes and the other Duchess goes to do her own thing because this is clearly a solo game
>>553126397Where did this negation meme start? Japanese players accept that if you die in one hit, you don't get locked out of half the drops for conflicting with your full HP negation, and can maximize every slot for damage output. The only time they stack it is with HP for the Guardian/Recluse max HP guard counter boost stance break build for slot compression and because the players not doing this or skill attacking are using Pulley Crossbow builds stacking phys ups, and someone needs to run dormant crossbows.
>bro can't figure out how to navigate to where we are in great hollow (he's on the wrong floor)>just quits
>>553129546you dont play the game
>>553129805False argument. You simply shouldn't be dying in 1 hit in high depths. The game balance is wrong so people play differently to compensate for it being wrong. Japs accepting it is fucked is them coping instead of wanting something better.
touch grass>t. Ishizaki
>>553129805>>553088017is this the new meta? post your own opinion but prefix it with "japanese players ________"?
>>553130182>interviewer asking the devs if they know everyone cheats>devs affirm they knowbased interview coupled with the stats they put out.
>>553130013>The game balance is wrongThen play a different game, crybaby.
wow japanese playersare vocal about the new meta and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way everyone is stacking damage and the whole getting one shot. I guess they were holding out hope for a successful run route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the metachanged. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
>>553130307Always was, just without the japan appeal to authority. The sisters always played like japanese due to the same appeal to authority. That same group were confused by fort, night messages in ER so take what they say about what is good or normal with a grain of salt. >>553130461I like it being wrong because its wrong intentionally to highlight cheating habits.
>>553130461a lot of people are already doing that. notice how many regs have already dropped off this game after ed ballenciago
>>553130543source? because this reeks my ass
>>553130307Translation apps are fake and only show you what THEY want you to see so make sure you don't use those or listen to anyone but me btw
am I actively fucking over my teammates if I use dormant power relics?
>>553130709the sign of a succesful and thoughtful claim - telling your dissenters to make up the evidence for you.
>>553125812He could be somewhat... procced?
The Japanese players have a minor meme recently making fun of people who think the great hollow is “impossible to navigate”
good morning erg!!
>>553129594yeah Im not sure what happened there I think everything below was dead so probably not a targeting error, maybe just the range I was from one of the knights and I went over but couldnt turn on the last bit of movement >>553129667Im not japanese I haven't a clue>>553129976Damn
>>553130812No
>>553130952good mourning
>>553130812Nope. It messing with the pools and making other people's loot change isn't real.
the japanese players are gossiping how erg stinks and that dsg should be revived instead
japanese players dont play the game
>>553111454You look like that and we fucked last night
Japanese players who have been playing since DeS just said Depp o f Night is bad bros, I'm sorry
>>553131105>>553130990I only ask because I checked my team's inventory after the round and the ironeye had 3 fists
Why would you care about the Japanese meta? They literally ping one POI during a balancer raid and two players leaves their own one to fight that one and then move to each one at a time instead of have each player fight one balancer, its insanity.
Source???
>>553116270This guy was so cool. The whole lore behind the Pthumerians was so kino in general.>>553120138I look like that and dance like that.
>>553131294Japanese meta for dog raid is to kill two dogs and leave the last one alive, shit is retarded
>>553131118yes they do.
>>553131294>he didn't bring his pulley crossbowequip seppuku
do you think they'll nerf halo scythe before making a DLC character that specializes in scythes?
>>553131425Ok this one actually raises an eyebrow and it's so retarded it might loop back to being true
>>553131508ydptg
>>553131643No. I don't think Fromsoft has ever buffed or nerfed something in a way that made sense in any capacity for anyone.
>>553131657what?
What if wylder had a whip
>>553120767>>553122432>>553123147>>553123920>>553129883>>553129705>>553130307My thoughts exactly!
>>553127940Saint plays a lot with randoms and he uses sword and board, he's literally never getting out of D4
>>553131643This is like saying would I get a job before getting a gf. Neither of these things will ever happen.
>>553131425>Infinite free runesBased
>>553126910>>553126832>>553125705smelly and brown. gross.
>>553131764You don't play the game
>>553131425>mobs to get ult charge from every couple secondsgenius
>>553128740Who? Your mom?>>553130461Careful what you wish for.
>>553129667The devs hate the Guardian.>>553129805The game shouldn't be designed around one shot kills being normal.
>>553130952Good morning cutie! Let’s make love!
>>553132628We all hate guardian.
>Everybody is running Duchess with Double Balancers>Almost none of them pair it with Affinity +6 or Fth Respec I hare it when somebody else plays my build but has worse relics. Makes me feel like a douche when I hoard the best loot because I use it best. I try to share of course but Im not giving them anything better than what I have.
>>553132751we all nate higgers though
>>553131425I mean if you have the grafted or marais sword...
>>553132830even doe big black kino is /erg/ culture stupid newfig
Does the "Charge Attacks Increase Damage Negation" passive need you to hit a full charge R2 with the fists? I only see the effect when I do that, or maybe I'm crazy, also it seems like it stacks if you do it fast enough
>>553132640That's a lizard
Why do people not block terr?>>553132751>>553132971
>>553131212and they’re correct. can’t argue with that. pack it up kiddos.
>>553131753And you would be right in thinking that.>>553132679Based bimbo speaking the truth!>>553132751>>553132971Shut it before I get the tire iron terr.
>>553132253oh, figures it's a retarded niche acronym that people make up on the spot.
>manta is still d4Lmfao
Good run Drag-on. Got stuck in her crotch when she did her aoe. Funny stuff.
gg caligo bully session, was fun memeing with those iron balls i foundi wish you'd dropped that smithing stone sooner though skrovan, i only went to the merchant for another smithing stone lmao
>>553121683>Bloodborne was way more fulfilling and satisfying than DoN though. Don’t know why but it just was.It took more time per session at times, it wasn't uncommon for people at Depth 5 dungeons to be bricked by a boss for an hour, but also sometimes people would just really breeze through things I guess.>>553121858Anon you cant hit anyone back when you're dead. A lot of attacks at D5 dungeons would just send you back to the lamp.There were basically next to none defensive passives, yes there are some things that made Chalice Dungeons easier than Nightreign but also the cost of a single fuckup was way, way higher.
>>553133027>>553133027The attack needs to hit and its not stacking on multi-hit charge attacks, just reapplying itself. Iron Ball/Star Fist heavy attack is considered 2 hits when two handed.
>>553132679I dont hate Guardian
>>553132971You even speak like a nigger lmao
>>553133671Ah gotcha, I was wondering what the smacks were for. I took it just in case Practice needed it for whatever reason. If only we could be blessed with an in-game chat interface designed originally back in 1996. Shit is too tough to implement these days I guess.
zuk it up yem it down and troon it all around
Do you guys post webms/screenshots here first or the discord first?
>>553134097I kinda get what fromsoft was going for with how limited the ping system is but there really needs to be more nuance to itMaybe next time I'll ping another mine after we do the first one, that'll probably get the message across
>great hollow>accidentally lead the team past the second lobster>ironeye assumes I must have no idea where I'm going>he takes the reins>he leads us to the great crystal before it's shattered, having to turn around at the very end of the jump down to it>I start leading again>he takes a spiritstream jump to his death by accident>he leaves immediatelylol
>>553133227They do. He’s like the second most blocked >>553133505Pretty much
>devs add a button to lock your max depth level to your current depth (can still lose points)>every player caps at whatever depth they consider to be the fairest>cheaters and hackers stay in 5 anyway because playing any lower will bruise their ego>game saved with minimal effort
>>553133510And she lost the last two games wiping all of today's progress...
>get marais on great hollow>running to n2 boss>think I can quickly farm up some stacks on the way with the claymen and puppets>they're all dead>remember the scholar was missing for a random field boss on day 1fucking hell
>>553134920OrAnd hear me outOrYou could just lock the chinks into their own containment dungeon
>>553134192Which discord? The real one, or the one we vet people in?
back from holidaysgonna queue for the first time in a couple weeks!
>>553133227>>553133412>>553134023>outing yourself as a newfag kek
>>553134920Maybe they could try fixing the matchmakingAnd the bugsAnd the cheatingAnd then we don't have to worry about that for the next games ever againHave you thought about that
>>553135339Yeah, Depth 5, like I said
>>553134920this button exists, you can stop at whatever depth level you want.
>>553134920I play with randos at D3 and reduce my level every time I reach D4
>>553135504>And then we don't have to worry about that for the next games ever againHave your ever thought about what developer makes these games and their track record or is this your first time?
>Duchess hits dreglord for 3.2k on blade of calling's skillWhat is even the point of hitting things with your weapons anymore
>>553135906Ironic isn't it? Melee's wanted to be equal to spell casters but it turns out that just turns them into spell casters
>>553135613I forgot to hit the button
>>553135808Hey they fixed Estus cancelling
first time seeing ISA kino
Just rolled this
>>553136118which game?
>>553136316uh, why?ISA on SS is not even that good?
>>553136316What does isa even dois it only "normal" attacks or is it baseline attack stat before scaling
>>553136573it was a duchess fishing for dual golden swords>>553136607boosts the first R1 or L1
>>553136705>boosts the first R1 or L1So would that be good for shield poking as birb?
uhm....dead queue????
>>553131294Its an appeal to authority that passively implies japs have authority by sheer dint of being jap in a jap game.Its like converting to Islam just because you like SNK games. Patently retarded.
>>553137184Name?
>>553133227They do, when you see someone get got by him it is intentional as theatrics for the thread. It spurs the narrative that terr is to be feared instead of laughed at.He does the same stuff on loop ad infinitum.If you've blocked him he doesn't exist.
>>553137000No because multiplying no damage is still no damage. Its for colossal weapons mostly.
>>553136573ISA doesn't use dormant straight swords, it uses dormant ornamental shortswords. Thats the only weapon they are actually trying to get so they can 2 hand it and do the cross slash.
>>553137184
>>553137705its still 1 for me too
gg dreg
>>553137000>>553136705>it was a duchess fishing for dual golden swordsAnd what would that even do? IDK if the charged special R2 would even count for ISA
>>553137828prove it
>>553137587Completely wrong. You powerstnace ss and R1>L1, they both count as initials and chain fast enough for punish windows. With ornamental all you get is one R1.
>>553135481And you are a nigger, which is worse
>>553137587That doesn't increase the chances of getting grafted scion swords so given the number of purple SS it seems rather pointless.Any weapon type with more than two, MAYBE three purples is silly to try and roll for
Does ISA only works on one mob one time
>>553137587Got it in 1
>>553137931see, we got indumb bitch
>>553137914Ggs, he was kinda skippy for me but wasn't as disastrous as I thought it would go.
>>553138070Might be like undercaker ability where it matters if you are locked on or not. If you aren't locked onto the target when you do a perfect dodge on their grab you won't get the purple ult, it simply won't trigger.
I have officially started to fall in love with Raiders. They always protect me, they always give me things that are good for me, they always rush to revive me, they always emote with me and more importantly when someone rage quits they always stay with me. This is the 6th Raider since DLC dropped that stayed with me and protected me after our 3rd left. Dare I say, Raiders are husband material?
>>553137262> SNK gamesWho?
>>553138571King of fighter and metal slug. SNK got bought out by Islamic princes unironically.
>>553138070If only there was a place in game you could easily test it instead of asking a bunch of dumb questions… hmmmmm…? Whats a sparring grounds do again?
>>553138549Its because raiders are BASED and when the third wheel quits like a little bitch the raider becomes even stronger. T. Raider main.
can i abandon my game without penalty if the 2 other allies quit?
>>553139136lol no
>>553139136yes/no
>>553135481stop crying terr>>553137426truth
>>553139024Based strong husband!
>>553132007I think there's a very decent chance they do a scythes DLC character. I'd also bet on it being a very cute girl. Possibly underage.
Birdjeets are so funny man, literally waiting until the last second in character selection to choose your shit class.
Looks like another round of activity hour is starting. Be gentle this time.
>exejeet tries to parry greg's glowing hammerI am begging you to learn this attack. Walk backwards when he starts it, jump when he slams the ground, then walk out of it after 3 hits in phase 1 or 4 hits in phase 2. Don't block and don't fucking strafe until the end so that all the aoes are in one line.
>>553140439This will speed it up and end it fastest.
>>553138652Oh. That doesn’t sound good.
>>553140892They've released more games under their caliphate than a bunch of years prior when SNK was in charge. They pretty much provided funding and told SNK to get back to releasing games.
>>553140892they fucking put ronaldo in the latest kof just because he and the muslim prince are "friends"
>>553141164>>553141221I wonder if the popularity of kof in the 90s was always just moneyed arabs supporting a thing they like. KoF porn was everywhere back in the day, and a lot of it was pretty bad.But it just kept coming (like me) for years.
>>553138549weird troon falseflag
gg not hot dog snooze
>>553141506>moneyed arabs supporting a thing they like buy EA because they love the battlefield so much
gg bug
>>553141958Do you know the arab snk situation? Anon hinted at how weird it is here >>553141221They really did buy it just so more of it could get made. Some arab prince 100% has Mai or Angel dakis.
>>553141938self demonstrating post
>>553138549>>553139024>>553139478
I'm still waiting
who dodged dogs
Tell me why I shouldn't run ice invisibility as ironcock
splurt
>>553142965me
>>553141958The EA thing is definitely weird. Nothing good can come out of that I reckon.
What's the secret to carrying on ED Libra?Third game today where randos 3bar and I die to something before I can pick them up cause it's so chaotic. LLTBT or Vyke's are not guaranteed. Can't go back to Depths before I master this fight.
>>553143406Kill Leebrah
>>553143406poop on him
>>553142174Based and unexpected unlike the single north korean using steam who dumped their money into the CSGO skin market early
>>553143406Stack less likely to be targeted and get good at the Libra 1 on 1. He's arguably easier to solo than regular Libra if you aren't getting mobbed.
>>553143406Keep Libra in your sights at all times, even if you have to give up some openings against condemned. If things get out of control you just have to run until he starts a riot, then lead the condemned to him.
ED Libra tricks you into playing overly aggressive. The frantic music and horde of condemned trick you into trying to get everything done as soon as possible. Just walk away from all shit.
>>553144420...Less Likely to be Targeted can be stacked?
>>553145350
gg horse
>>553145350You never noticed there is a number affixed to it?
>>553141938I'm not a false flag! I'm just cringe!
>>553143406Play a sorcerer and get Stars of Ruin to instantly rape the condemned, then rape LibraBasically, just rape
>>553145793You’re about to be my cum rag if you keep this silly behavior up in my presence
>>553144502>>553144873thanks, that's very useful
>>553145685Gg horsechungus
>>553145945Promise?
thats a 40 year old fat bald indian man above me posting images like that
>>553146507Is this the face you make when you rim big hairy raider shitholes?
gg adel snooze
>>553132679Your hair is looking more golden today Asuna
>>553147107my ash of war rng was so bad
>>553146507Naughty thirsty slut…
>>553147107I wonder why terr never makes fun of pradaktar
>>553147107duck...
>>553147230meanwhile my luck was great, i found about 184% worth of negation over the runall for regular adel lmao>>553147371quack
>>553147321Stop noticing things
Anyone know what the most active level ranges for end/lategame ER pvp are now?Thinking about 125 vs 150 mainly, i remember a year ago or so 150 was very dead outside of the arena.
>>55314748990 for anything before farum azula125 if you want to do arena duels once in a while139 so you can invade ranges from 125 till 150
>>553147058Maybe>>553147286Very thirsty and you're looking mighty drinkable right now
>ER PvP
>>553147946>139 so you can invade ranges from 125 till 150Had to give that up a while ago I'll do 125
>>553133671i always buy a stone at township merchant just in case
can i abandon my game without penalty if the 2 other allies are terr and extremist?
I can't beat ED Balancers with randoms, I have gotten demoted from D4 twice because of these fucking bitches
>>55314748920 for the most activity, but it's mainly Limgrave and Stormveil.166 for endgame invading because it covers from 150 to 200+.125 is a meme if you aren't part of some discord group of PVPers, even the arena is dead compared to 150+.
>>553148272nice
>>553148130The merchant in this case was already in the rain across the map and the day started ending before i got there lol
>>553148260Why would you abandon a free win?
>>553147489level 10 Limgrave pata antspur rivers
does distortion have gooner mods installed? wtf lmao?
sorry about bugsmy controller kept randomly disconnecting at worst times
>>553148541I didn't realize he was awesome
havnt played since june and wanna try one of the new boss, balancers.I mostly play wylder, is there anything to know ? What are the good relics now ? is evergaol one still good ?
>>553148854nice
>>553148854anon your relics are ass even for june
>>553148854awesome relic, wish i had that
>>553148854looking good
>>553147979It was fun when we played together
>>553147979This this this>>553148260Yes no one likes jumping into a losing game with the odds stacked against you like that
>>553149182once tarnished edition releases then FCs will return
>>553148854Using only remembrances and flat stat increases as God intended
>>553149553Weapon swapping like that is so soulless
>>553149698Its wylderin' time
>>553148968they re super basic yes, that s why i'm asking what to useI did clear every boss and everdark boss that were out at the time with those (i used the evergoal one for the yellow slot, dunno why its this one slotted right now)
>>553149553Double vyke days will be fun and upsetting for some.
>>553149553>r1>menumenumenuemenu>rolls ones>menumenumenumenu>r1>menumenumenumenui really cant take pvp players seriously
>>553119261Why are you zesty?
>>553149875Peak wyldchad behaviour
>>553150045The new map doesn't have evergaols but I think it always has night invaders
>>553149553you're mass blocked you're not joining shit faggot
>>553149701Sounds like you're upset, gonna cry?
>>553150370nah
New>>553150757
>Come back after 3 months>Try out new DLC stuff, its cool>Remember my DoN rank>Remember quitting at rank 3 because I was sent back to rank 2 a few times and I though I'd peaked>Finally try again>Get Balancers>Smash the run including balancers, never even go down onceI wish I had the guts to come back sooner, I think I actually got better at this game somehow.
>>553147321who is terr and why would he
>>553151461what the fuck is that?
>>553151539where
D6 should exist and should be mystery niggas only
>>553149182
>>553151903>wojak garbagethese are just dsgtards who got bored of ds3
>>553151883you can't say that word trish