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>News
Agent Record | Aria
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/43039871
Agent Record | Sunna
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/43037944
Version 2.5 Special Program
https://youtu.be/Ldeqt2WMiYM
TGA 2025 Special Video
https://youtu.be/X-g1N9mNjzs

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/35fRoOYhE6Y (EN)
https://youtu.be/BSKG5nhlj5s (JP)
https://youtu.be/D_MtaEZRy3E (EN)
https://youtu.be/eJBlfglfs-4 (JP)
https://youtu.be/9Lshum4Peqw (EN)
https://youtu.be/oCcNiUZ5ogU (JP)
https://youtu.be/TU5Bt8MLPjk (EN)
https://youtu.be/bviZmH3w5ew (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.5
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/161728
All-New Program 12/29 - 02/05
Special Visitor 12/29 - 02/09
Potential Hypothesis New Chapter Reforged 12/29 - 02/09
Sword Seeker Chronicles 12/31 - 02/05
Joint Investigation: The Divine Maze 01/03 - 01/22
Shadow Riptide Clash 01/09 - 01/26
Wish Filing Station 01/14 - 02/02
Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 01/16 - 01/21
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 01/21 - 02/05
Angels and Delusions of Muse 01/21 - 02/05
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 01/30 - 02/04
Angels of Delusion Training in Progress 01/30 - 02/09

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZCREATOR25
ZZZ25MINA
ZHAOISFREE
MEETTHEVOIDHUNTER
ShunguangWinterGift
ZZZ2026

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Join the /zzz/ Guilds!
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds
>send join requests via guild ids
>reply to this post with your guild id and guild name to get added to the list

Add your /zzz/ Friends!
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
>send friend requests via UID
>reply to this post with your UID to get added to the list

Add "/zzz/" to your account info, so we'd know you're one of us! Or you might just get the boot !!
Member limit is 50, up to 100 at guild lvl 20.

how guild exp works:
>all outpost points earned by a proxy are added to every site they belong to
>each proxy can earn up to 300 guild exp a week (resets every monday)
>150 out of 300 from just doing dailies
>for the last 150, either publish 10 commissions and run 5 OR publish 5 commissions and run 10
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>>553089786
you can't fool me
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Soon
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Ellen Joe was raped by me
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>>553089851
You were too late!
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>M4W2 Yuzuha
>mindscaped alice and bibian too
How is this even humanly possible
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>>553089932
lucy is always watching
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I am addicted to sniffing Ye Shunguang's thiren dong....
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I love Hoshimi Miyabi
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>>553089995
Miyabi….
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i did it bros
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Umm... Anon-san, you can't have sexual intercourse with robots!
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I am at lvl 5 3300/5000 Outpost Trust, is that the current max or did I miss any point?
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>>553089925
I kinda like that Zhao built a stronger bond with Ye Shenguang than the proxy.
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>>553089776
"skill" doesn't mean that it must be super advanced combo system baked in with shitton of possible outcomes. Even in much more basic games you can minmax aka "get skill" to get better result
game have some conditional attacks, bassic attack, attack that eats resource and ultimate. Under that you have also buffs applied under certain conditions or rotations to use "core" skills of each character. And you have 3 in team with synergy. For button mashing. The game would lack "skill" if button mashing would get you only a little lower vs someone who pays attention.
Meanwhile, in reality button mashers use newest agent with best comp vs new boss and get into 24k range. People who did some work are on 40k range. So yes, it takes skill to play the game optimally. If only hard games can have skill ceiling, then unless we talk about older ninja gaiden, 99% games cannot say anything about "skill"
and metric from people who clear endgame content shows that vast majority of playerbase(90%) are not playing optimally
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>>553090165
She’s better than Miyabi and shung now
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>>553090226
I think that's what I'm at. I'm not aware of anything beyond the 5k per week cap
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What are /zzz/'s opinions on Silver Palace?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS281osYsQw
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>>553089939
stop giving attention to attention whores retard
or buy an ad
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>>553090165
Based. I did this.
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>>553090304
It's like if ZZZ, Wuwa, and R1999 had a baby
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>>553090203
She’s so fucking ugly, skip. I’ll pull for Sunna though
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My headcanon is that Tiny Giant is a real music video that was mad in universe as PR for TOPS. Zhao learned to dance just for this video.
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>>553090274
>People who did some work are on 40k range
And what do you call the anon who posted the 55k Shunko clear @ M0
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>>553090456
I maxed Burnice and found out she's not usable in coop despite being on the cover image...
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>>553090165
Same. I unlocked Burnice's abloom and upping Sanby till 6 now.
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>>553090492
My head canon is that I think Zhao is a dumb useless whore that is already forgotten about
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>>553090571
True canon is that you are a retard since Zhao Sunna is YSG's new best team
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>>553090274
not true I just watched a shitter button mash with Shunguang premium on new boss for 8 hours and he didn't even get 20k
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>>553089786
Whitest OP in a while
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>>553089818
Join Cunning Hares to SEGGS with Nicole
uid 511641
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>>553090554
She's part of the story, at least... I actually like the way her stage looks. Kind of exactly how I imagined a scenario like that.
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>>553090603
>meta subhuman
I’ll take Sunna, but Zhao will continue to be a fugly dyke that’s useless
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>>553090492
Astra's MV canonized all the MVs btw
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>>553090536
I would raise him this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofp8hvb0jTU
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>>553090536
Didn't see that, but if it's possible then the diffirence between button mashing and skill is even more visible
I myself did new boss for 24k with m0w1 shotgun, did some dry tries to learn what boss do and managed to get 40 myself after learning boss moves and paying attention to what's happening between effect vomit on screen
yesterday, i went from 88k shiryu score to 102k by simply practicing and correcting myself
>>553090630
possibly skills/core/discs not lvled up, I straight up yolo mashed shotgun to 21k while ignoting everything else. SOme people are THIS bad
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>>553090165
I wish I didn't have so many characters I want to buff so I could do this. I got her and Burnice to level 3 and now I'm saving for Anby.
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Lucia Elowen is a good character and is very cute.
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>>553090850
Many straight males are saying this
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>>553090780
>this clear
ok motherfuckers, going to grocery and then practicing the shit out of the boss, now my 40k looks retarded
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>>553090850
>good character
absolutely not
>very cute
debatable
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>>553090850
Leaving Eridu behind to live in a yurt with my wife Lucia Elowen
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>>553090850
So goddamn mid… just like midhari
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>>553090887
Based.
Writing down a shopping list is memorizing inputs but in real life. Make this a part of void hunter training. Buy fruit.
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Her tits are bigger in this outfit
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As soon as I log in she's here
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>>553090959
>>553090893
Can't wait for you idolpedos to finally uninstall this game and fuck off.
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>>553090274
>"skill" doesn't mean that it must be super advanced combo system
No it means that there are choices to make other than the right choice 100% of the time. ZZZ bosses are solved within a SINGLE ATTEMPT.
>baked in with shitton of possible outcomes.
That is literally what makes games skill-based.
>The game would lack "skill" if button mashing would get you only a little lower vs someone who pays attention.
You realize there are levels between "button masher" and "playing optimally" right? It doesn't just begin at "someone who pays attention." These "button mashers" are irrelevant to this conversation. Every game has a bunch of retards playing the genre for the first time. Gachas have even more of these retards because of the nature of the game.
Anyway, even those 2% top level players that play optimally don't use their brains. For them the game is easy because the game doesn't take skill. I have seen no skill expression in any of the high score videos because there is nothing to do. The bosses are made for fucking babies to solve.
Please stop pretending these boss designs made for literal fucking children take any thinking.
>and metric from people who clear endgame content shows that vast majority of playerbase(90%) are not playing optimally
Yes because gachas attract literal retards from the third world. That is in no way a useful metric.
>Even in much more basic games you can minmax aka "get skill"
Of course some drooling low IQ individual they probably do think they are good at the game and it takes skill. In reality "basic games" fundementally aren't "skillful" games because the skill ceiling is so low most people that are used to actually hard games solve it in a matter of minutes.
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Counter Strike is just memorizing inputs
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>>553091120
I have Lucia and I'm skipping the Idols. I'm just being realistic. It's amazing how everybody around here seems to love boogeyman posting.
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>Ye: 37%
How
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>>553091120
Just because I dislike the most bland bitch on the planet doesn’t mean I like the idols.
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>>553091146
Ain't reading all that
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>>553089923
>In a recent tough battle against the Creator (real), our fuarking hero Billy Kid has sustained great damage.
>now he sits in a TOPS facility, his Logic Core hanging on by a thread.
>the Cunning Hares have to face the threat of the Creator (real) alone...
>the Mayor walks in...
Billy: "Mayor-dono, I can't just stay here like this! We need to do something!"
Mayor: "Billy... Your ancient, mysterious, pre-cataclysm Logic Core is so mysterious and powerful that we can't find a SUITABLE replacement body for you! Not even Banyue's body type is mysterious and powerful enough!!!
...There is only one partial match but... uuh...."
Billy: "Anything! Do it now! I have to help my team!"

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>big fighting cinematic
>the Cunning Hares are about to lose to the Creator (real), when suddenly!
>*bang* *woosh* *skadoosh* !!!

S-Rank Billie Kiddette, forma de Grandes Tetas: worry not, my sweeties! Billie has come to the rescue!"

OUR FUARKING HEROINE !!!
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>>553091146
This anon sounds mad about something
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>>553091146
Also I guarantee most casual players don't take DA or Shiyu as seriously as the autists constantly complaining about "shitters" getting low scores. The reality is they just clear it for the rewards so they can continue pulling their waifus and playing the story. That's probably at least 60% of those players and I'm being generous here.
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>>553090780
Is zhao just dog dookie without the ball? If I get my sanby and engine, then I might roll the ball. My plan for ysg is to share between ysg and eve.
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>>553091267
forgot to spoiler the fucking image
shitpost fucking wasted
FUCK
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Can't they just use dead characters as the featured banners? For the story, it doesn't need to be something happening NOW, they could just make one that's in the past. I want to see what yi xuan's sister looks like.
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>>553091219
I don't play Ye but I assume he's a chad that just holds down E and then BA while looking at another screen. Void Hunters are efficient multi-tasking individuals like that, you wouldn't get it.
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>Button mashers are such idiots!!!
>Anyways, here's me rotation mashing and ignoring all the boss mechanics because they're basically non-existent and I can ignore them thanks to iframes anyways!
KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>553091146
Autist gave up on arguing with the solid points in the previous thread and decided to hit retry like /zzz/ is a boss fight
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>>553091146
>Anyway, even those 2% top level players that play optimally don't use their brains
NTA but chiming in. I am top 1.5% player and I can tell you to pipe down and shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you're talking about
The amount of timing, cancels and frame perfect shit you have to do along with rng fishing to compete at the top end is out of your skill bracket.
Don't use my skill bracket as a tool to win arguments, scrub.
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>>553090779
And Bringer's episode canonized this with Zhu Yuan. Wonnered bigly since season 1
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>>553091393
She went to hell(Teyvat).
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>>553090781
YSG is notoriously easy to overcap pen on too unless you read the novel that is her skill sheet. Most people assume voidhunter go brrrrr, and it does, but you have to not overcap crit rate first.
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>>553091359
if you plan on pulling sunna do not bother with zhao's engine
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>>553091398
but that's how I played with Ellen, too
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>>553091584
crit, sorry, I'm tired as hell.
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>>553091529
You are correct. They will ask for your mindscapes and wengines, but you are still correct.
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ah, so thats why she was so popular
i see the vision now
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>>553091529
BTFO'd that larping tranny
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>>553091538
That rat thirens got that rizz
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>>553090698
>learning the best course of action
Yeah, retard, something ZZZ doesn't have!
>just memorizing inputs
Oh go ahead and get 2000 ELO in AoE then if it's so easy. You can go pro level!
>>553090331
Not me, retard.
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Honestly I think this entire general only has less than 10 anons who crack top 2% DA without mindscapes or spending
>how do you know this
Because I'm one of them
I know how disgustingly difficult it is to maintain that rank at M0W0

now look at shork tits
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>>553091725
>Oh go ahead and get 2000 ELO in AoE then if it's so easy. You can go pro level!
If I memorize the inputs and learn the best course of action I'm sure I will
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How strange. I tried mashing with Shungus and it still went over 20k.
M0W0 Shunguang, 6pc BnB, 4/6 core, Brimstone
M0W0 Dialyn, 6/6 core
M0W0 Bunny with 23k HP, 6/6 core
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>>553091146
Name 3 popular games that have "real" skill expression
I snuck in the "popular" part so you wouldn't name Fighting games that have communities <1% the size of popular games where nobody cares about your skill level because nobody plays it
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SEX CUNNY OVERLOAD
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I don't care about scores I just want to have fun.
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Coop? Loaded
Lighter? Locked and ready?
My contribution?20-25% max
Bosses? Punched
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>>553090165
Me too bro
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>>553091841
who asked
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>>553091529
>>553091743
Why do you do it though?
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>switch to chinky
>everyone does too
soul, they should copy relink and make you grind for gear
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>>553091725
>Not me, retard.
Oh so you just jumped in on behalf of a guy who conveniently stopped responding right as you started?
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>>553091146
>No it means that there are choices to make other than the right choice 100% of the time. ZZZ bosses are solved within a SINGLE ATTEMPT.
nope, depending on the startegy, you can ignore boss attacks and just dodge, ignore emchanic, or take advantage of it(selfstunning mech retard. other ways is timing attacks in such way to prevent boss from doing his special(donut on pompey). Dark souls bosses do exact same set of attacks, yet they're hardly solved
>That is literally what makes games skill-based.
mario has literal jump button and single attack, yet there's a colossal diffirence between a normal player and, let's say, speedrunner. mario doesn't have combos, doesn't have mechanics, it's just a puzzle platformer. Pro scene for quake was more about being able to control and memorize powerups spawns than having perfect aim. Each game have it's own system and sets of rules that can require skill to use. Only game where there's no "skill" is where just random casual palying yields nearly the same result as when playing fully focused, minmaxed etc.
>bbut for kids
listen, mr "adult" pretender, if you gonna care so much about what's for kids and whats not, you're a kid yourself, bound to the rules or esle someone gonna 'shame you". Part of being an adult is to do what you like and enjoy without giving a fuck about what everyone else thinks. Paying attention to nearby people approval is what a literal toddlers do to learn what is acceptable to do and what not
that being said, game allows for minmaxing, usage of animation cancel, specific tactic, stat stacking etc that can result in way better result when used optimally. A famous monoice in 1.x was based around using practically every system ingame possible on top of knowing which part of combo applies anomaly. It doesn't matter that compared to other game skill ceiling is lower/higher. Genre of the game doesn't matter, stop being retarded on purpose
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>>553091529
I literally started this discussion by saying ZZZ took skill and you are just a larping faggot. posting your DA% without character investment level is completely meaningless. while the game does obviously takes skill, you also can just purchase more numbers. both things aren't mutually exclusive.
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>>553091529
>The amount of timing
No such thing.
>cancels
Doesn't take skill. It's part of the input rotation.
>frame perfect shit you have to do
You don't. There's no frame perfect shit in ZZZ. Timings are incredibly generous.
>rng fishing
Resetting the encounte over and over again doesn't take skill. Just a lot of autism. Congrats though.
>compete at the top end
Imagine "competing" in gacha games... Couldn't be me.
>my skill bracket
It's not a skill bracket. You don't have skill.
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>>553091743
Considering the melting tranny is a tourist or somebody VERY shit at the game, I have to agree
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>>553091684
All here. No mindscapes. Max limit of 4 cost per team. Only 1 weapon per team. I can fish for a couple of K higher score before the reset ends but for now I don't feel that motivated for the other fights outside of YSG since she's still pretty new and I feel there's more to figure out

Also I don't have the hands to play anomaly teams for some reason (I can't alice or Miyabi Yuzuice for the life of me) so it's really fucking difficult for me to maintain my top 50 rank
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>>553091934
i think its a /gig/ tourist
i remember seeing someone like that back then
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I'm using ysg 4-cost team and only get 48k while someone with a similar cost clears the boss. I would say I try a bit harder than casuals but not that skilled. However, if memorizing and managing resources is easy, there shouldn't be a gap between players of similar investment.
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content soon.....
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I love my wife Aria!!!
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>>553091892
dios mio! la androidina es mucho pequeno!
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You're arguing with one of those midwit retards who thinks everything on the planet can be boiled down to rote memorization. Don't bother. He can't even commit to standing by his own arguments:
>Learning rotations is a skill to some degree but learning the best course of action is a skill in any game
He walked this back and pretended he never said it.
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>>553091743
I’ve hit top 1-3% a couple times but I dont really bother anymore because the (You)s you might get here arent worth the trouble.
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I can see the future now, the idols will get their 3 person super Ult at some point ,but only after they adapt co-op fully into the game
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>>553092020
FAT FUCK
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>>553091886
because I enjoy the gameplay loop
what kind of question is this
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>>553091976
Has to be, all the time spent being anally BTFO'd by the whole general should be spent on getting gud ngl.
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>>553092082
AYO THIS NIGGA PLAYS VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE HE ENJOYS THEM AHAHAHAHA
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I am addicted to sniffing Ye Shunguang's thiren 'sword'....
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>>553091959
>two mid runs and the current mega shilled team
congrats bro, you can fit the square peg into the square shaped hole. if you're trying to argue for ZZZ having a high skill ceiling you're not doing a good job. just post the youtube video of the guy beating the shungus boss with Billy instead.
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>>553091743
True. I'm usually only top 3%. I have engines though.
This rotation I'm barely scraping because I don't have Vivian or a rupture agent.
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>>553091146
>Of course some drooling low IQ individual they probably do think they are good at the game and it takes skill. In reality "basic games" fundementally aren't "skillful" games because the skill ceiling is so low most people that are used to actually hard games solve it in a matter of minutes.
and to finish your childlish rambling, it doesn't matter if other games are harder or easier. It doesn't matter that I can kill Malenia in Elden ring with fists only and naked. If i play ZZZ, i compare skill within the scope of that game. When i go play elden ring, i compare it withing scope of ER. If you decide to mix those together, then you've no basis for that because each game use diffirent system. It's like comparing let's say, red alert to starcraft. Both are RTS, but they require vastly diffirent playstyle and skills to master to be effective.
If the game allows to get visible diffirent score from simple button mashing, that yes, indeed that game has a skill ceiling. You problem is constant comparing skill ceiling of the other games to prove something. There's reason why anscar doesn't compete with f1, and there's reason why marathon runners are not comparable with 100m sprinters. Despite similarity, they're focus on diffirent thing. Mixing those scopes are retarded and often used to simpky express "my game is better because it's harder".
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>>553092020
She’s walking around town buck naked, even though she’s supposed to be shy... What a person.
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Don't let all this skill slop discussion distract you from the fact that a literal anti-shill bot farm designed to destroy ZZZ's reputation was discovered and is now being pursued legally
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>>553092165
>Gets buckbroken
>Erm ackshually (moving the goalpost)
>a fucking poorly downloaded Anby.jpg of a gif completely used out of context
Not a good sign sis.....
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>>553092165
>>553091803
I'm still waiting btw. I wanna see which games require skill in your opinion.
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>burger
Thoughts?
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>>553092082
That’s understandable, have a good day (I raped Ellen Joe in my white van)
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>>553092224
It's a relative privation fallacy. That's all you had to say. It's not like he cares though.
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>>553091924
> posting your DA% without character investment level is completely meaningless
here >>553091959
Ready to perform a naked dogeza in front of the whole of /zzz/?

>>553091927
>You don't. There's no frame perfect shit in ZZZ. Timings are incredibly generous.
I was about to respond to this until I realised you might be fishing for free tech by trying to rile me up
So I won't fall for your bait
Stay bad
>Rest of the post
didn't read
didn't care
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>>553092256
Man some ZZZ schizos being on a payroll would certainly save face for them, now if they continue posting after this.....
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>>553092256
Thats kind of fucked. They could have used their powers for good and gone after Ubisoft or something instead
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>>553092256
Oh no... I hope they don't go after my boy Tonto!
Tectone should take him over to Texas and protect him!
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>>553091959
Very fucking nice actually. Better than mine and I'm mindscaped out. Haven't had a lot of motivation this DA cause I'm skipping Shunko, but I wanna go improve them a bit now.
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Just do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaNxp1AJNHY
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>>553092256
>could have gotten away with it
>but went full retard and gave Hoyo actual reason to go after them by forging documents, and paying a retard to publish them
What were they thinking?
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>>553092165
>mid runs
Ok post your clear with the exact same setup and investment
not replying to you anymore until you do
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>>553092310
Im not the the retard arguing for ZZZ taking no skill. Im just shitting on this anon in particular for being super proud of his mid score
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>>553091927
>No such thing.
there's such thing
>Doesn't take skill. It's part of the input rotation.
memorizing optimal rotation is still a skill
>You don't. There's no frame perfect shit in ZZZ. Timings are incredibly generous.
they are, especially earlier bosses
>Resetting the encounte over and over again doesn't take skill. Just a lot of autism. Congrats though.
again, donut mode on Pompey
>Imagine "competing" in gacha games... Couldn't be me.
you can compete in absolutely everything that have 2 person playing. Are you a sheltered kid? never played with other kids?
>It's not a skill bracket. You don't have skill.
such a melty, but understandable, considering how hard you need to go with damage control to straight up fuck up logic itself
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Everyone from spook shack has great designs and personalities (except yuzuha)
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Honestly, fighting over gameplay is still better. Once you end up like /hsrg/, where everyone's just fussing about gender and all that, it’s the beginning of the end.
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>>553092501
>im retarded
I know
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>>553092340
oh, he do cares, his ego on anonymous board got hurt so much that he resorts to straight up defying logic and facts just to save his fragile ego. It's that hilarous when someoen tells you that water isn't wet just to never agree with you
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>>553091914
>mario has literal jump button and single attack, yet there's a colossal diffirence between a normal player and, let's say, speedrunner.
Because they abuse bugs and there are often hundreds of ways to to abuse these for different outcomes. Mario at its basic level is nowhere close to RTS games or Dota 2 or League or whatever (just random examples). Reason why people see speedrunners as some god gamers is because most of those older games are actually boring as fuck and no one wants to commit the time to master them.
>listen, mr "adult" pretender, if you gonna care so much about what's for kids and whats not, you're a kid yourself, bound to the rules or esle someone gonna 'shame you".
Nigga you know I'm calling them "made for children" as a joke right? It's obviously bait.
>animation cancel
Cool. It's just a mechanic you learn instantly. No skill required.
>specific tactic
Ok?
>stat stacking
Basic mechanic.
>way better result when used optimally.
In order to use it optimally you just learn the button presses. Doesn't make the piss easy bosses any harder.
>It doesn't matter that compared to other game skill ceiling is lower/higher.
If it doesn't matter then stop bragging about your score and calling people shitters because they're not as much of an autist as you are.
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>>553092501
>lucia
>yidhari
>great designs
Everyone look at this retard and laugh.
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>>553092545
>im retarded
I know you are but what am I
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Is the iPhone 16e worth it for 400 euro? I know it has like 0 features but I want something with better battery life than my Galaxy S23. I may or may not occassionally want to use it for ZZZ dailies. The alternatives (actually good phones) are over double the price and I'm paying off my PC still, so I'd only be able to afford them (16PM used, base 17 new) around September, but that's when the new iPhones are right around the corner, so I might as well stick with my Saarsung until it literally explodes in my pocket.
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>>553092498
>you can compete in absolutely everything that have 2 person playing. Are you a sheltered kid? never played with other kids?
Didn't say you can't. It's just funny to me. Competing in gachas... Hehehe.
>considering how hard you need to go with damage control
What are you even talking about, gachajeet?
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>>553092695
>Because they abuse bugs
And?
I don't understand how you're dealing with the cognitive dissonance from claiming how easy all of this is while scoring 20k
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>>553092482
>with the exact same setup and investment
that's the whole point you fucking imbecile. I didn't roll for shungus so its meaningless to compare score%. just how it would be meaningless to compare your mid run to someone who rolled a bunch of mindscapes. you evaluate someone's skill by comparing their teams to their performance, not with the raw DA% number
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>>553092801
I lost….
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What is ysg's gift to wise? It can't be the same earrings right?
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Top fragging in a Quake tournament doesn't require skill because you abuse bugs
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one day and another day
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>>553092904
Her panties
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Man I wish I could press 1 2 3 and swap to the relevant character
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>>553092854
>And?
What? And nothing. Did I say bug abuse shouldn't be allowed in speedrunning? I didn't say that you retard. Bug abuse is the one thing that actually makes speedrunning interesting. But it means games like Mario are more than just "hold right" and "jump now."
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>>553092904
her panties
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>>553092879
ok post your m0 yixuan clear on wandering hunter
and your m0 alice clear on fiend
go on I'll wait
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>>553092832
I got that phone for my mom. Holds up well enough. The gpu is cut back from the base model but I cant imagine that would affect your ability to do dailies
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>>553092256
If only our local schizos didn't do it for free
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wish they'd add some more stuff to it, it's quite fun
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>>553092695
>Because they abuse bugs and there are often hundreds of ways to to abuse these for different outcomes. Mario at its basic level is nowhere close to RTS games or Dota 2 or League or whatever (just random examples). Reason why people see speedrunners as some god gamers is because most of those older games are actually boring as fuck and no one wants to commit the time to master them.
no retardo kun, I'm not talking about bug abuse, I'm talking about pixel prfect runs without bugs, where you memorize entire map and know when to stop so you can continue running, but I already confirmed that you're too retarded to realize that "skill" isn't one universal ability in every game
>Cool. It's just a mechanic you learn instantly. No skill required.
and there's several otehr that majority of people either don't use or don't know how to use. Example, chaining Evelyn chain attack durning stun window and the diffirence between someone who can do it and someone who jsut resorts to just 1 chain attack
Tekken and various fighter games offer the same level of thigns you learn instantly. Consistently pulling it is diffirent thing. yet alone knowing when to use it
>Basic mechanic.
again, example in fighting games. basic emchanics of combos, yet diffirence between MK top1% and casual is colossal. Or shooting games. In quake, you have only run, jump and shoot. Meanwhile a Pro could overpower 8 newbies in 1v8.
>In order to use it optimally you just learn the button presses. Doesn't make the piss easy bosses any harder.
we've been there before, you literally contradict yourself at this point
>If it doesn't matter then stop bragging about your score and calling people shitters because they're not as much of an autist as you are.
sure thing kiddo, imagine not only contradicting yourself but straight up denying the vasy history of competetive play in video games just because someone called you a retard(that you are) on anonymous basket weaving board.
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>>553092954
>not just telefragging the boss with legos
Video games are easy.
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Stupid sexy Foofers
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Is it me or has the English localisation team just given up this patch. Xiao’Guang, Xiao’Zhao, Qingming Sword. They didn’t even bother localising this patch. Meanwhile, JP has renamed Zhao to Teru-chan.
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>85 rolls for Grace
Not this shit again
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>>553093201
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>>553093096
>ok
>proceeds to just repeat the same argument he just ok'd the debunking of
well, its my bad. I should have just guessed from the beginning that you are mentally handicapped.
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I sometimes wonder if these are actual people arguing or more dead Internet slop. If my FBI agent is watching, shalom.
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>>553092835
>>553092695
and finally, let me call an olympic comittete and ask them to ban ball throwing, because it's such BASIC sport, throwing ball and measuring how far you can throw. Practicing it since ancient times and rewarding them is according to you, retarded. yet people are very competetive about this with literal arms race who can pump as much "legal" chem as possile to get best result
>gachajeet
a filthy eurpean ESL, but well, at this point your only defence left are childlish insult, after you made yourself look like actual clown with that "skill" and "competetive" discussion
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So why do you think skill anon hasn't posted any runs but has the time to spend on replying for hours
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>>553093229
No, we call them zao-chan in Japanese too.
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please stop releasing two S rank agents each patch we need less powercreep and time to save, look at wuwa they have such a clean roster and tierlist
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>>553093370
Ostensibly he's trying to bolster his ego by winning an internet argument
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>>553093370
his main and final reort will be that he doesn't even play a filthy gacha for kids
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>>553093341
All of these arguments are generated by AI.
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>>553093370
Ellen Joe puffy nipples
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Bleak
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>>553092065
I love my fat fuck idol robot wife!
>>553092245
She's not naked, she has ribbons!
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>>553093370
I’m not sure but the behavior is very similar to a certain schizo we have around these parts
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>>553093503
Having passed the Forbidden Fruit test Aria confidently confirms she's not a robot (she's an android and a mechanical lifeform who cannot be impregnated)
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>>553093319
ur right i'm mid so can u post ur run to show me how its done?
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>>553093528
Why are they stripping Aria naked? She looks so sad...
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>>553093574
2cost seems almost self-aware sometimes though. Wish he'd get some new material.
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>>553093565
>anton
>koleda
>ben
So he’s responsible for the most unpopular characters in the game. I see
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>>553093508
So glad the only thing I need from this is Alice’s ball because I was an early investor
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>>553093565
Well good for him I like most of those. And hoping for a good Defender set for Ben whom I'm thinking about building
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>>553093662
2cost points are technically correct but he's just a fucking asshole about it
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>there's no skill in this game
yet im redoing shiryu/da, each attempt I'm getting better score. Each fight I'm getting more precise, kept finding new openings, doing shit faster, more effective. And it's fun. Just like in let's say, Elden Ring where against certain boss I was alsting longer and longer, losing less hp, dealing more damage. I'll say the forbidden word, It's fun
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>>553093771
>spoiler
He's already dead, anon.
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>ZZZ launches their first spending event
>For the first time ever I drop my top 50 rank despite playing my mind out
You people rolled mindscapes didn't you... Fuark...
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>>553093662
Shunko just really broke him I dont know if he can come back from it
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>the co-op experience
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>>553093771
New SD is about doing as much damage as possible in the 1st minute.
Don't know what you are optimizing but just unload all resources in the first minute for the highest score.
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>>553093625
>>553093854
It's not a rank, it's how many stars you've gotten in total since they started adding them up.
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>>553093771
You know, the well known fun is a buzzword screencap had a point. It's not enough to say something is fun, you should be able to articulate why it's fun
And perceived improvement is often a reason why something is considered fun, past the immediate satisfaction of pressing buttons
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>>553093161
>talking about pixel prfect runs without bugs
Taked relatively little skill in 2D platformers if there's 0 bugs (even something as simple as clipping through the level). In 3D games, sure, but there's usually way more things involved other than just pixel perfect inputs. Over the course of the whole speedrun there would be hundreds of different optimizations you can do. Way more than a single ZZZ boss fight, that's for sure.
>"skill" isn't one universal ability in every game
Skill is subjective anyway. As someone with a considerably higher IQ than most gachajeets of course there would be conflict on what is or isn't "skillful."
>Example, chaining Evelyn chain attack durning stun window and the diffirence between someone who can do it and someone who jsut resorts to just 1 chain attack
They resort to it because they literally don't know about it, not because it's hard to do.
>Consistently pulling it is diffirent thing.
There's nothing in ZZZ you can't consistently pull off.
>In quake, you have only run, jump and shoot. Meanwhile a Pro could overpower 8 newbies in 1v8.
Nigga are you fucking serious? You are unironically saying "just press jump lol just click on their head lol just press W lol" to fucking QUAKE? The game that fucking created strafe jumping? The game that originally had the highest skill ceiling ever in terms of aiming?
You think you can do shit like THIS https://youtu.be/aK2hMaX6AG0 by "just jump run and shoot bro!"
You are a gachajeet. You've never played Quake. Quake requires an infinityX more skill than ZZZ.
>straight up denying the vasy history of competetive play in video games
You are straight up denying how much skill it takes to play games like Quake so shut up, faggot.
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>>553090684
I wish the roof of that car was my face.
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>>553093854
Haha, no way, right?
It was december man, I felt like wasting some disposable income after upgrading my workstation
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>>553093932
I... think too
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>>553093958
>it's not a rank
then why call it a rank wtf
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>>553093859
I instalock the M2W1 Shungus.
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>>553093884
I'm doing that, I'm a filthy F2P. Just that I screencapped my progression with being able to dish out more and more damage sooner with exact same agents
Wish that I Codumented my DA
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>>553093625
lol. you don't even know what that is but I guess by your own metric I am better than you, yes
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is the game good? be honest here
is it actually fun, i want to try it out for real
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>>553094074
I have no idea but I made the same mistake as well.
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>>553094059
So this is why my DA rank % dropped this cycle
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>>553094212
I went from 0.98% to 1.31% last cycle after Shunko's banner hit lmao
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>>553094176
It's bretty gud
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>Skillschizo made everyone pull out their DA cocks
owari da
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>>553093347
Kek you completely lost your mind.
I don't even know how you moved the conversation from "ZZZ isn't a skillful game" to "ZZZ can't be competitive"
You gachaniggers really are something else, huh.
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>>553094059
>file name
Hi Heinreich
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>>553094176
why don't you give it a try, it's completely free
at worst you lose an hour or two of your life
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>>553093565
ZZZ should fire this fraud if we want a sustainable future
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>>553094176
Just start playing and see if it's for you.
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>>553094176
It's pretty fun yeah
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I really wonder what the no-skill retard thinks is a Skill-based game if a game where better player wins isn't one.
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Skillet checking in, I honestly have no idea how the fuck rotation in this team works, I just swapped every time yzh and vva have enough energy.
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>>553094017
>that part about quake
Outside making a clown out of yourself while also starting to contradict yourself, you straight up proven my point with quake. Yes, game with a simple aim, jump and run have such degree of advanced skills. Yet the basis is very simple - run, jump, shoot. A simple 3 actions can combine to such levels of skill gaming. I exactly pointed at quake and I'm happy that you wrote exactly what I know and what I wanted, because you basically roasted yourself now for being ignorant
and then, you have zzz with attacks, combo attack, parry, dodge, assist, etc. on top of layers of boss specific, agent and tema specific plays
how does it taste, contradicting yourself to this point?
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>>553094176
Yes, I think so. Focus on a couple agents you like for any particular reason and make them work - or just play the story and side content, there's a decent bit to do if you're just starting out.
If you care about story though, don't go to Waifei when the game prompts you, because that will seriously sequence break the plot by starting season 2.
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>>553094378
This is one of the most metaslave comps to ever metaslave. Just watch one youtube video on it and you'll be a pro.

Oh but you have to spend months grinding optimal disks and potentially spending hundreds of dollars to be competitive, btw!
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>>553094378
That's already decently higher than your average plebbitor score so you're doing gud anon
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>>553094318
mindbroken
>now I'm gonna call everyone a gachajeet! everyone that disagrees with me is brooown!
and depserate
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>>553094453
there's plenty of people who like all those characters it's not strange that someone would like all of them
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>>553094059
I bought enough Christmas presents for family & friends, M6 Shunko was what I treated myself
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>>553094074
>this retard actually though he had the 45th best DA clears with his shitty mid runs
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>>553094407
Nigga, you're completely lost in this conversation.
Not once did I ever deny either game has basics.
But I'm not talking about basics. I'm saying ZZZ doesn't require skill. Not even remotely close to the same level as Quake.
What the fuck do you not understand about that, you fucking brown brazilian monkey?
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>>553089786
is this co-op investigation mode permanent?
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>>553094435
Piggybacking off of this, the game's actually pretty generous in giving you trial Agents during the story, events, and in certain modes like Hollow Zero. You can actually have a pretty complete play experience outside of the endgame challenge mode without even rolling a single character.
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>>553094292
>>553094323
>>553094328
>>553094332
>>553094435

whos the broken character im supposed to reroll to sweep through everything
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>>553094453
ZZZ releases new characters too fast, by the time I grinded my alice to decent level (actually bad), I already had a new agent.
>>553094468
HP inflation may make me drop into sub-20k zone at this point
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>>553093854
>>553094130
>>553094204
Where do you see this info?
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Hey, stop spamming M6YSG. You're driving down the value of mine!
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>>553094518
still top 2% every cycle nerdddd
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>>553094505
Huh? I like them too. Wasn't saying you shouldn't use the comp. I was saying it's easy to find tutorials on it.
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Buffed Neko will be only 10% worse than Shungus, and wont need Dialyn. Trust my sources
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>>553094303
I'm a slut and pull mine out if prompted. Though I use mindscapes and have bad scores for my investment.
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I'm leaning to skip chinatsu for YSG since her buff overlaps with zhao, feels like a bait desu senpai
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>post a f2p investment clear thats top 2%
>HAHA MID HAHA MID
>okay post urs
>radio silence
always the same playbook with these schizos
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>>553094643
outpost archives. top right of the DA page

>>553094668
yea and still lower than me.
>>553094130
make sure to address me as Sir when replying in the future.
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>>553094629
No need to reroll, there's no standard agent that's really worth doing that for. The current banner is super powerful and in a few weeks we're getting a rerun with a guaranteed (no 50/50) limited agent, I'd recommend getting Astra since she's a strong universal support, but they're all good choices, just roll for who you like.
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Caesar
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>lucia/zhao/ysg instantly clear dailies
Never knew this until now, holy fuck the time I wasted.
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>>553094552
>Nigga, you're completely lost in this conversation.
I'm not the one who straight up shittalked myself with that quake part
>Not once did I ever deny either game has basics.
lmao
>But I'm not talking about basics. I'm saying ZZZ doesn't require skill. Not even remotely close to the same level as Quake.
midnbroken so ahrd that you mix 2 diffirent scopes. You don't mix mario, zzz, quake and starcraft, because each of these games require dififrent skilsl to master to be competetive. You want to compare starcraft macro to quake aim? That's why only retards liek you compare 2 games with "MY GAME IS HARDER THAN YOURS" when they're not even in the same genre, eyt alone require same set of skills
>What the fuck do you not understand about that, you fucking brown brazilian monkey?
that's rich, coming from a literal ape that missed a literal concept even ancients got, making your iq below 70. How does it feel to live in 2025 yet be braincapped below a literal ancient greeks?
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>>553094629
It's the girl with the sword on the launcher. If you roll her you're gonna be kinda set for a lot of content, but you can try her out in a game mode called Hollow Zero as well as a short trial mode on the banner.
You should see if you enjoy how she plays and what her animations are like before rolling I think, but if you get her she'll carry you for a long time.
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>>553093653
They are giving her new frills and ribbons, since Aria seems like she didn't actually have those originally...
I love the idea that it was Yu and Chinatsu who came up with the idea!
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>>553094662
My bad bwo
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>>553094764
ok post urs + investment big boy
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>>553094629
>rerolling
Is it even possible with mihomos games? It takes like 1 hour each attempt right?
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I still want to know what character is sharing 2.7 with Nangong Yu.
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is Ellen Joe the worst release banner in Hoyo story? The biggest falloff making her useless a few months in?
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>>553094678
Neko nation stands behind you
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>>553094928
He’s Seth’s older brother. That means we can skip one.
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>>553094879
oh so now that matters? I though you just had to look at the number to be able to say
>>553091529
>I am top 1.5%
what the fuck happened now? what changed?
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>>553094928
ZZZ flopped so hard no reputable leakers even bother with the game.
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>>553094928
Some pig cop
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>>553094948
Hugo, unironically
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>>553094808
Because Shungus needs support and def to activate her passive which somehow no one read. Both deploys ether veil too so no shit really
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Is it better to gigadump with Shungus Blanco's EX Special or spam basics until the bar runs out and then ult?
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>>553094948
Still usable. Still clears the "hardest" content.
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im already set without shungus
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>>553094678
I keep missing my E and it's starting to hurt my feelings. I'm so fucking bad at games, I'm just gonna use Corin with Astra and Dialyn...
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>>553094853
They were so broke that they could only afford to put one kneehigh sock on Aria.
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>>553094948
She's just too clunky to play to be very good, if her gameplay was more fun or rewarding then you'd see more people trying to make her work like they do with Billy or Anton.
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>>553095089
what the fuck is coming out of his back?
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>>553095069
Hugo is doing alright he's still clears pretty much everything with his 4 cost team
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>>553095016
I was already skipping the idols, so unless Seth's brother is cool it looks like I might be saving all the way through 3.0.
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>>553095057
The last leak this game had was in 1.1
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>>553095049
In the interest of saving everyone here some time are you planning to post your score or are you just going to endlessly shitpost in bad faith?
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S Rank Corin would break the game
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>>553095159
Her cock
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>>553095131
The life of Indie Idols doesn't pay much, but it's honest work.
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Two high rank characters per banner is fucking crazy
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>>553095195
you're not pulling HIM?
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>chinatsu in phase 1 and aria in phase 2
So hoyo believes that chinatsu is more marketable?
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>>553093859
I feel like I'm the only one playing Ellen, Soldier 11 and so on.
Just sounds boring to only play the 3 void hunters and nothing else.
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>>553095220
>S Rank Corin
That's just Sunna
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>>553095229
>her cock is flat and brown
okay then
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Aria's butt stomp attack doesn't look great, but it probably feels as good to play as Valesa. It just seems to lack a bit of AoE.
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>>553095057
Dawei personally hunted down the leakers for AOD
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>>553094948
Probably goes to either Ju Fufu (replaced by Dialyn in 99% of teams four patches later) or Banyue (released in just a bad state).
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>>553095146
Anton is the clunkiest, but he's being optimized because he's so bad.
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>>553095089
Me when someone swaps to Nagi after I lock in Meebs.
I failed this captcha five times so you know I'm M6.
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>>553095267
I'm not pulling for a 10/10 robot design disguised as a mid human
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>>553095285
Don’t be a cockphobe, there’s different cocks for a reason.
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>>553095289
It has a gigantic range, I've seen it track from like half stage away
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Gamebanana doesn't ban naked loli mods right? I can't wait for sunna
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>>553095267
Anon-san, robot girls are generally a niche demand. Well, I’m going to make her M6, though.
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>>553095265
I probably will if he's got a cool kit, but I thought after 2.7 we'd be going right to 3.0.
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>>553095069
Hugo was cucked by Miasma, his mechanic is fine
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>>553095305
You need 3+ teams. Fufu is great in many but she's no longer best in any.
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>>553095087
Depends on your team and resources
>Dialyn + Zhao
Gigadump Blanco's EX
>Blanco form > EX > BA > EX > EX > BA > etc till ult
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>>553095428
We got the VH is .5 instead of .4 so we might get a 2.8 before 3.0
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>>553095265
>>553095428
I sure as fuck am.
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>>553095401
What a huge ass!
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>>553095204
my scores are also pretty mid. I have
>no Squidhari for Hunter
>no Obol package for Defiler
>no Alice for Miasmic fiend
>no Dialyn for Thrall
>no shungus for Primordial Nightmare
and yet I still score higher than you, who's a soulless meta golem who thinks he's hot shit.
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>>553095167
>>553095449
Not the point. He released in 1.7 and the very next patch became borderline useless/barely scraping clears.
He's objectively the biggest fall off any character had in ZZZ, ever
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>>553095470
I think in most cases you'd prefer Trigger as an off-field stunner over Fufu, since Fufu isn't actually that great about filling up the stun bar and Trigger's w-engine provides defense shred. I guess Fufu still has the edge on Rupture teams, though.
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>>553095507
Hahaha fufu is so cute and funny
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>>553094847
>because each of these games require dififrent skilsl to master to be competetive
No shit faggot but you can still put each of those on a graph and ZZZ would be in the bottom of the bottomless pit in terms of skill requirement.
>that's rich, coming from a literal ape that missed a literal concept even ancients got, making your iq below 70. How does it feel to live in 2025 yet be braincapped below a literal ancient greeks?
Kek and you think I'm the one having a melty? Holy fucking seethe!

Alright I'm gonna make it simple for you in three key points. If you don't understand what I'm saying and continue to sperg out then there's no point continuing this conversation.
Quake and Starcraft (high-level) both require very fast reactions -- seeing enemy units and predicting their strategy or using sight and sound to locate the enemy and shooting a rocket where you predict them etc. ZZZ has none of that. Quake and Starcraft both have some degree of strategy -- in Starcraft that is very obvious and in Quake it's item timings and respawn points. ZZZ has barely any strategy and team comps are basically spoonfed to players with the core passives and bangboo passives. Quake and Starcraft both require speed -- aiming and micro. ZZZ is very generous with timings and boss mechanics (mechanics that even a toddler can figure out kek).

Keep seething you ESL monkey.
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>>553095220
>Scorn, physical anomaly
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>>553095542
Is trigger at M0W1 better than M0W0 fufu for yixuan? I never really thought of this comp,
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>>553095542
All of this is Belion btw
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>>553093854
heh check it out I'm rank 54 too!
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>>553095267
I'm glad she's 2nd, it's more time to get rolls for her.
And realistically, Sunna is a more enticing banner for most people since she's a strong support that'll work with a lot of teams, while Aria is a more selfish DPS.
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>>553095646
Scorn will be Physical Rupture, as in she'll physically rupture your ass.
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>>553095585
A good Hugo gets 35k on wandering hunter he's really not that bad
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>>553095660
I don't think so. I got m0w0 Jufufu on her rerun and I use her instead. I didn't have her yet on that Trigger clear
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Everyone is just using guild chat for resources. I thought we were entering the golden age of ZZZ erp...
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>>553095635
ALICE GET YOUR ASS HERE ALREADY STUPID RERUN TAKING TOO LONG
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>>553094847
And your examples, Evelyn chain attack and Pompey donut, do not disprove any of my key points. You figure that shit out in 30 seconds watching a youtube video. You don't get good at Starcraft or Quake by simply watching a video. It takes a fuckload of practice.
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>>553095542
>sub 700k
>not even top 2% consistently
>greentexts full of excuses
so what gives you the right to talk so much shit
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>>553095719
Yeah, Wandering Hunter who released in 2.3
Hugo was borderline useless in 2.0, 2.1, 2.2
You can think of whatever excuses to make yourself feel better about his state but he got shafted the hardest out of any limited S rank ever released because he got to enjoy getting shilled for HALF A BANNER before falling off a cliff
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Today I learned that only PVP games require skill. Sorry speedrunners and uh.. real life blacksmiths, you are unskilled.
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>>553095689
You're such a tease..
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>>553095404
I think it does, I don't remember ever seeing one for Delilah in GG Strive in there even though I know they exist.
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>>553090304
STILL waiting them to show the angry bunny girl knight that was in the very first trailer.
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>>553095895
>strawmanning and too much of a pussy to even reply to me
I've totally mindbroken xim...
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>>553095730
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If Hugo is the DPS that has fallen off the most doesn't that mean he'll get a buff soon? I'm looking forward to it
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i just started playing
why is there 3 anby
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The problem is that Hugo’s gameplay is too linear. All he can do is stun, totalize and that’s it. If anything gets in the way of stun, totalize, his gameplan immediately crumbles and he falls off a cliff
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>>553095542
>Cherry picking older cycles on top of what the other anon already said
Do you want any advice? I don't mind giving tips bro you can just ask me
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>>553096092
Cause she's the best!
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>>553092613
You haven't proven him wrong once. Just lashed out personal insults. Never a single counter argument, just rambling and crying like a little bitch over things you clearly don't understand. And you're that stupid you'll think someone else calling you out is the same guy.
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>>553095618
>No shit faggot but you can still put each of those on a graph and ZZZ would be in the bottom of the bottomless pit in terms of skill requirement.
>MY GAME REQUIRES MORE SKILL THAN YOURS BAAAW
literal kid argument, but I understand mixing scopes is a concept beyond you. Again it doesn't matter how difficult game is in comparision to other game, if we compare skills withing game when noskill button mashing yields vastly diffirent result from actual skillful play. You not only contradicted yourself in that regard twice, but also failed to udnerstand the concept itself. Meaning you're arguing in bad faith, protecting your fragile ego by straight up lying, and then proceeding to throw petty insult to mask it
>Kek and you think I'm the one having a melty? Holy fucking seethe!
if you read your comments from below and up top, you're straight up arguing with yourself by saying one thing and 2 posts later saying a thing contradicting it. Do you even know what contradiction is? Even jeets know it, using it to shitpost

>Quake and Starcraft (high-level) both require very fast reactions -- seeing enemy units and predicting their strategy or using sight and sound to locate the enemy and shooting a rocket where you predict them etc.
and what's the diffirence bewteen someone employing those skills and someone who jsut spams attack-mvoe or jsut runs and guns?
>ZZZ has none of that. Quake and Starcraft both have some degree of strategy
but so far even from yt posted, it indeed does have a startegy and skillr equired. The game even tells you about this in tutorial mode(know it since I made alt acc for event), but you prefer to downplay not because of logical reason(mechanics) but emotional one - because you simply don't like the game. And by the way, SC and Quake emply a straight up diffirent strategies, mr literal manchild who can't see the diffirence everyone knew after hundreds of hours spend playing it in lan parties
keep coping, mr sub 70 iq
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>>553096092
their mom has been very busy
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>>553095660
Yixuan best stunners are in order
>Dialyn then Fufu, with Qingyi being bis over fufu on certain fights like priest
Hellfire gears fufu is still a very solid option and her real 2nd best stunner in general
Only downside is that you need good disks but most people have been in the Yunkui mines forever now
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>>553096183
Don't defend me they're just gonna say I'm samefagging.
Sadly the shit we have to deal with because the admins can't be assed to put IP on posts.
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>>553095791
Everyone would have done ERP if they hadn't been banned.
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Do you get any bonuses for posting commissions? Any polys? Anything?
Also, why can't you post disk mine missions on there?
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>>553096128
I couldn’t hold it in
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>>553096093
They should make it so that he can use a totalize that consumes stun multiplies landed before the enemy is stunned, like the ones from Trigger and Dialyn
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>>553095542
>and yet I still score higher than you
are u sure about that
I love ellen joe
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I quite like the way we can handle requests for each other. Though, 1,000 points feels a bit steep... I’d also love a social space where we can meet and chat with other players' characters in person. And yes, I promise to use it only for wholesome purposes.
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>>553096039
>everyone is a same person
You have mindbroken nobody
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SOON™
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please please please please please please don't fuck up now
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I'll never be particularly good at DA. I always score 9 stars with C0W0, but I typically only land in the 5-10% range.
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>>553096650
All Cdmg
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>>553096650
all into HP and PEN bro
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i love my bnuuy wife
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>>553096650
It's gonna be perfect... You're gonna get a big, meaty DA score with it. My mouth is already watering for you...
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>>553096616
those fucking puzzle pieces are 500 z merits a pop. I never noticed before how expensive they were, I could probably have a whole extra free engine if I had bothered to buy all of them since the beginning...
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>>553095845
>And your examples, Evelyn chain attack and Pompey donut, do not disprove any of my key points.
You mean "I don't like the example so it snothingburger because I don't like you" so, a literal toddler at this point. Orange jucie is wet but apple juice is not because i don't like an apple juice. Lmao How do you even function in real life
>You figure that shit out in 30 seconds watching a youtube video. You don't get good at Starcraft or Quake by simply watching a video. It takes a fuckload of practice.
SO, let's get Evelyn and Miyabi
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRauWQ57Erqd8fdZQglvmzQhb5vNqPFKfuvIsJpwHT1umxAtI-2pUOoDjwH8Q5dGeRjqDtbhDq-1Sci/pub
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ4bZm5mW-mUbgglhto_o3lDTf8IVWNSBl43FjfMdEICmrbQSWzUlOPDSM5Qrv8nNVspmqbJsPv7dKG/pub
that's some amount of writing for something that doesn't require any skill. Yet a same team for a same player can yield vastly diffirent outcomes. AGain, you're mixign scopes. None sane does that unless he wants to shitpost so he says that LoL is harder/easier than Dota. But again, basic concept eludes you. Just like olympic dyscyplines, each "game" have it's own set of skills. It doesn't matter if quake, or starctaft, or any other game is harder than zzz. What it matter is that you have skill ceiling with the game. SOmeoen can just run shoot or spam attack mvoe and win story mode. In zzz you can do button mash and win too. But getting maximum output in the endgame requires ahem, skill. Quake have way deeper skill ceiling. Still , you don't mix starcraft, zzz or quake. It was said and explained to not mix games each goddamn esport league transmision. yet you do this, because it's your last straw that doesn't make sense yet you push it
>>553096183
>>553096314
oh, but you do samefag. Pray tell, who's flinging mmuh esl and gachajeet as main argument? Do you really think someoen gonna fall for it after you keep proving your ignorance again and again?
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>>553096718
>>553096731
>>553096731
>>553096767
Better than all HP at least
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>>553096420
they will not respond to this
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Stop trying to make me like Ellen Joe
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>>553096767
>My mouth is already watering for you
Why did this turn me on
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>>553096801
kek same, i just melted down all the unused engines in my stockpile for that number. I've yet to buy the ones from the shop this cycle tho so i'll be near 40ish by end of patch i think.
>>553096846
RIP
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>>553096249
>>MY GAME REQUIRES MORE SKILL THAN YOURS BAAAW
No faggot, I said ZZZ doesn't require skill.
>when noskill button mashing yields vastly diffirent result
Already disproved this argument. Go back and read, retard.
>then proceeding to throw petty insult to mask it
Ah shit didn't know I was arguing with a redditor. Would've been nice if you told me sooner.
>if you read your comments from below and up top, you're straight up arguing with yourself
I'm not going to entertain your headcanon no matter how many times you repeat it, Prakash.
>and what's the diffirence bewteen someone employing those skills
Those kinds of skills can't be employed in ZZZ. That was my point.
>but you prefer to downplay not because of logical reason(mechanics) but emotional one
Nope. Logical reasons. It's not hard.
>because you simply don't like the game.
Oh but I do! Does that make you seethe? That I can enjoy the game but not care about scores in DA and Shiyu because they're boring and don't need skill?
>SC and Quake emply a straight up diffirent strategies
Ok and?

Bro you know you're getting baited with the namecalling right? Maybe you should take a break from the internet for a bit, saar!
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>>553096878
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>>553096882
That image is really scary, so please don't post it again.
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>>553096580
Yes because a random person will join the conversation and completely miss my point by talking about fucking "real life blacksmiths"
Only you, who brought up olympics, can be that retarded.
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>>553096707
I only get 3 lmao
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>>553096707
what do u need help with
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>>553089818
waiting u
NA
1007826263
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>ZZZ doesn't require skills
Then post your 35k clear of wandering hunter with 2-cost Mono Ice.
Any single one of you who dare say ZZZ is simple and easy but can't even do something that rudimentary have no right to express your assinine opinion of this game anywhere.
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>>553096069
What the fuck KEK
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>>553097106
You will never be miyabischizo
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>>553097263
Just got Jane and been doing her trust events did she ever even find out we're proxies?
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State of thread makes more sense when you realise its made up of
>Deranged burger neets who refuse to sleep
>Unemployed Yuros
>Seanigs after a day at the sweatshop
Don't @ me you know I'm right
Bibisex
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>>553097106
>have these specific characters properly built or you're not skilled
mental illness
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>bro Zhao's going to be replaced, she didn't even last a month
>Actually its Dialyn who's getting replaced

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its funny how much they want to throw shit at Zhao and fail fail miserably every time.
ZHAO WON! Its over, and you will build her and play her you like it or not
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>>553097347
I want you to NTR me and impregnate all my agents
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>>553097053
Yes indeed a random person can take part in your obviously wrong retarded schizobabble. Real life blacksmiths are about as valid comparison as your arguments have been.
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>>553097383
If they don't buff Caesar by 3.0 I'll just give up and build her
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>>553096973
>No faggot, I said ZZZ doesn't require skill.
and then you say it has no skill, and then it has no skill in comparision to X
No, zzz indeed has skill cap. it doesn't matter if zzz is harder to play than game X. Measurement of skill is made when exact same player uses exact same conditions and plays exact same characters 2 ways - only using basic skills and then using every possible option to clear exact same leve. In case of ZZZ, let's day DA new boss with zhao/dialyn/shungus. People with exact same team get between 24k to 65k. The diffirence between lowest and top is nearly 300%. A game without skill on average have diffirence between 5 to 25% where majority of it is attributed to rng(luck)
but thank you for proving yet again, you basically childlish understanding of game design
>Already disproved this argument. Go back and read, retard.
you did not, keep coping. And I'm not even using Banyue vs average Mortal Kombat character as argument. You're missing basic concepts this hard
>Ah shit didn't know I was arguing with a redditor. Would've been nice if you told me sooner.
finding yet new insults doesn't mask your incompetence, it only adds to your clown make-up
>I'm not going to entertain your headcanon no matter how many times you repeat it, Prakash.
not an argument
>Those kinds of skills can't be employed in ZZZ. That was my point.
the same skills that are even now, explained in game
>Nope. Logical reasons. It's not hard.
you failed to apply logic when you contradicted yourself with quake fiasco
>Oh but I do! Does that make you seethe? That I can enjoy the game but not care about scores in DA and Shiyu because they're boring and don't need skill?
So, you like the game, yet you prefer to lvie in ignorance because game is easier IN COMPARISION to other game? the very thing none sane does outside shitposters?
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>>553097106
Resetting or learning to play are not skills. He said so.
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Post the lowest DA score you've seen
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I got A-Rank in Shiyu 5 with my shitty teams and that's good enough for me.
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>>553097341
Bringer episode
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Should I get more copies of Sprout bangboo?
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>>553097865
Oh yeah, I don't remember her showing up in any cutscene just the final credit scene
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>>553097834
Only if you maturely accept your status as a subhuman and not shit up the thread screaming at the DA gawds who post here, then yeah, you're cool anon.
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>>553097902
If you care about Bangboo meta just get dupes for Belion.
No dupes Sprout > Belion, with dupes Belion > Sprout.
Luckyboo is good too
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>>553097996
I was told Legoboo was overpowered...
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>>553097939
DA is now easier to get all poly than shiyu I got 7 stars in da but couldn't reach S in two out of the 3 floors
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>>553097083
Probably learning how to git gud and optimize rotations. I've seen the beat players follow an EXACT pattern every time, and I can't seem to do that.
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>>553097939
>DA gawds
I'll only consider them superior if they achieve better scores using the exact same teams and disc setups as I do.
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>>553096973
>Ok and?
so another new contradiction? So if they're diffirent, then what's the point of comparing them when they employ diffirent strategies? Ignoring for a moment logicla fallacy of comparing dififrent games from diffirent genres, so it's alright to comapre but only if the games are estabilished "high skill competetive ones?" Like, I'm speechlees, please do grow up
>Bro you know you're getting baited with the namecalling right? Maybe you should take a break from the internet for a bit, saar!
if you stand half nakes, pissing and drooling in the centre of the city, calling everyone around you names, none will be mad. They will be disgusted. You cannot insult anyone even on internet(lmao), if you're not representing anything of value yourself. Then police will detain you for being loud in public, not because you insulted anyone, but because you're annoying to everyone else. Since m00t decided that he wants his own english 2chan, being a retard wil l0l umad fagg3t when replying to actual discussion was and always will be, a sign of not having any argument left at all. Not some sort of superiority or secret technique. I insulted you inr egard to poor quality of your arguments. You went with insults, because you had no arguments left, therefore, git gut, kiddo
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>>553097996
Sprout is apparently very bad at hitting the boss so Luckyboo actually averages better.
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>>553097996
What's so good about Belion? Anyone know how much a bangboo contributes to total damage? Maybe 1%?
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All that talk about "pandering" and Shunko's trusts turned out to be the same exact nothingburger as most of them. Funnily enough Zhao's trusts were much sweeter.
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>>553097996
I get 1 of everything because I like collecting
Beat that
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>>553098127
It's HUGE. I would say good boo choices can make a 3-5k damage difference
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>>553096824
>[seethe]
How many times are you going to embarrass yourself by calling someone a childish? You legitimately sound like some trannoid from reddit that wants to go back to his edgy phase but doesn't quite know the words. It's pretty amusing in all honesty.
>Evelyn google doc
Most of that shit is just the same shit you read in-game besides the chain attack thing (I'm pretty sure there's an interactive tutorial in the game on that) and cancelling with ult. That's it. Simple shit. Everything else is just combos which you learn and then it's just habit. It's not skill. Just simple memorization. You can't fail it. You can't mistime it. You don't use it reactively to the enemies or level.
>Miyabi
I don't care about Miyabi.
>that's some amount of writing
Google docs like that are typically bloated with words. You probably found it on Reddit and redditors like to make simple things way more complicated than they need to be.
>oh, but you do samefag. Pray tell, who's flinging mmuh esl and gachajeet as main argument?
Ok. Show me where I replied to myself as well as the proof.
If you mean >>553095845 then that's not samefagging. It's obvious I replied to you twice hence why that posts starts with "AND"
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>>553098090
I wish we were able to turn mindscapes off like potentials, or better, the ability to give someone a link or something that lets them play the exact same team on the same boss. It would be so fucking funny.
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I've been waiting for a sexy Bangboo.
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>>553097664
Anyone? Feeling a bit lost on what you'd ideally want between Atk vs Cdmg.
Using Dialyn Zhao, soon Sunna
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>>553097664
>>553098332
Performance is likely not gonna be very different, but maybe attack since you're already swimming in a bunch of CDMG buffs.
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I have enough for about 1,000 pulls worth of Bangboo Coins, but I’m saving them because I don't want to waste my luck on Bangboos.
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>>553098227
Memorization is a skill retard
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>>553098152
>>553097263
Kill yourself cuck subhuman
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>>553098093
It's obvious you're so assmad at this point you're going to seethe and kvetch no matter what I say. So how exactly are we supposed to come to an agreement, redditor? I would say you should take a break and take a walk outside but being a fatass might make it hard for you. Kek just kidding! Anyway calm down and just read >>553095618 again and forget about your delusional headcanons about me contradicting myself (has not once happened yet that word has been repeated 10 times ITT).

Ok then. See you!
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>>553098240
Yeah, it would be nice if you could let people "demo" your teams out.
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>>553098227
>>[seethe]
not an argument
>Most of that shit is just the same shit you read in-game besides the chain attack thing (I'm pretty sure there's an interactive tutorial in the game on that) and cancelling with ult. That's it. Simple shit. Everything else is just combos which you learn and then it's just habit.
that's not the point. Point is, a game without skill doesn't have anything to explain. So you're admitting that there's a lot of aprts from game itself, therefore game itself tells you about it. But you can also play and compeltely ignore it
>it's just habit. It's not skill
yeach, everyone can do the same from get go. Like, lmao dude, there's not a single thing, in both virtual and real lfie that works like that. You even use(badly but still) your brain that and not other way around because it was imprnted to you in your genes by your ancestors for thousands of years so you can actually speak and formulate expresive words instead of using flashing images memory like chimps
>I don't care about Miyabi.
Example is about presenting that game without skill simply cannot have a spreadsheet dedicated to a single charatcers like that. Liking character or not doesn't matter. It's like someone asks is Ferrari faster than McLaren and your answer is "I dont like ferrari"
>Google docs like that...
it doesn't matter where it can be found, you can't bloat something without structure. yet again, you're proving your ignorance by denying anything you don't like. Like an overly emotional kid because something doesn't fit your narrative. And that's just 2 examples. There's way more. That's a lot of theorycrafting for a game without skill
>Ok. Show me where I replied to myself as well as the proof.
you're quoting the line that points to those posts
>>553098634
>It's obvious you're so assmad...
your puking and barfing is not insulting. I cannot be mad, only disgusted that something with such lack of awanress exist
>rest of childlish ramblings
not an argument
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he won
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>>553098740
sex shungus
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>>553098227
>>553098835
Stop replying to yourself
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>>553098470
It's just a time commitment. If you're intelligent you likely will memorize them fast and remember them. But when it comes to utilizing them in boss encounters there's really nothing skillful about it (in ZZZ at least).
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>>553098961
can you buy me 150000 monochromes please?
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>>553098740
>>553098859
Shunko love
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>>553098087
Here is a general rule of thumb of how I approach fights. I have a set universal gameplan going in and then I adjust said game plan as the fight progresses.
Firstly I ask myself what do I need to do in terms of character gameplan.
Lets use Ye Shunguang as an example.
>I want to get as many ult form combos out as much as possible
>Said ult form uptime has to be under Zhao Ether Veil buff which gives 3 orbs on activation
>To get as much ult form as possible I must not overcap on orb resource when transforming with Dialyn free ult or Ye personal ult
>I must also rotate form uptime between Ye's own skill/ult, Dialyn free ult and Zhao's EV activation. None of these should clash with each other
>In order to rotate them efficiently I have to do the fast combo
>To get as many orbs as possible I need to use the downtime from Ye's animation lock from her skill and BA ender to squeeze in Zhao skill/ult and Dialyn skill as well
So you're starting to see the loop.

Then you combine this gameplan with fight-specific gameplan. I will use Primordial Nightmare as an example.
>I have to make sure I parry her control mechanic while under miasma shield
>To do that I have to get her to 40 daze before the trigger in the opening phase
>I don't want to dps with Shunko ult form while under miasma shield phases, I should use parries to clear the shield and use the time to build dialyn and zhao's resources/prep EV and Shunko's ult form before miasma ends instead to unload on her

As you layer the two gameplans together you start to get the flow of the fight, and from there you get your score. I find that giving people the general idea and asking them to create their own details is better than giving them the details itself

Hope that helped, anon!
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>>553098859
I’m gonna rape you both
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>>553098918
>it takes time commitment to become skilled
No shit retard
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>>553091538
It canonised a yeast infection?
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>>553099216
Piper would laugh at six-seven
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>>553098740
>>553098859
Guang gang
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Shunko gang rape by shota temple disciples
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>>553097383
>and you will build her and play her
No
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>post shungus
>thread improves
curious how that works
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>>553098863
Ah that would be hilarious if it were true...

>>553098835
>Point is, a game without skill doesn't have anything to explain.
Really? That's your stance on skill expression? That's depressing. It's depressing I wasted my time replying to such a braindead retarded redditor.

Again, just take a break and you can read your responses later to see how retarded you sound. It's riddled with strawmanning. You'll probably feel embarrassed and delete them.
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>>553098918
>memorization is part of training
>you train to become SKILLED
oh shit so learning and memorizing patterns is a skill?
So zzz indeed requires one
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Maybe if you people posted less and played more you wouldn't be so bad at this game
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Have there been any agents that have rerun more than once so far?
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Im a tad confused
So does this mean my Burnice being at a standard 1.56 Energy Regen she wont get use out of the new Core skill?
Is it time to give her a Energy Regen 6?
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>>553099339
>>553099478
I'm GONNA DO IT
IM GONNA KISS MY SENIOR AND FILL HER WITH MY LOVE
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>>553099303
Right... It takes time commitment to memorize things and it takes time commitment to become skilled. The difference here is that skill is actually impressive and looks cool whilst only memorizing things looks autistic and boring. At least in ZZZ. Many fields and videogames exist where memorization looks cool, of course.
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>>553099583
Ellen, Astra
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>>553099583
ellen
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>>553099595
would shifu disapprove of fraternization between disciples?
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>>553099648
Zzz if it was made by western devs
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>>553099674
LLM pajeet
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She dresses like a kid
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>>553099585
yes, you should use energy regen slot 6 and get a 2pc for ER too. you do need at least 2 buff levels for it to be better though
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I wish we had an entire thread (750 posts) discussing bibian's panty smell
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>>553099745
>quality time event where she's buying kids clothes to sit at home in
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>>553099720
Something something aligning our meridians something dual cultivation
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>>553099820
It smells like my musky semen
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>>553099745
leave her be, its cute
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>>553099595
Oh my
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>>553099724
Wasn't Metal Slug a Japanese developer?
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>>553099495
>Really? That's your stance on skill expression? That's depressing. It's depressing I wasted my time replying to such a braindead retarded redditor.
from gachajeet, to esl, to whatever, to redditor namecalling. yet you're the one ignorant about a literal game theory, and the definition between a strategic game and trivial game. You must be a well known genius to, so far, call collective amount of such research as previosuly mentioned namecalls
so far I'm wasting time replying to simply an uneducated person using emotions as argument, like for example ignoring counterarguments because ahem, you dislike that argument involves charatcer you don't like
>Again, just take a break and you can read your responses later to see how retarded you sound. It's riddled with strawmanning. You'll probably feel embarrassed and delete them.
Sorry, but I don't think you're qualified to tell me what to do. Please, take a break youself and fill thsoe extreme gaps in your education
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>>553099860
Nyo
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>>553099820
I told you, it smells like an old cermaic pot with a hint of cinnamon.
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>>553099530
What are you on about, schizo? It's a human skill, yes. You realize that "human skills" and "skill expression in a videogame" are very different things, right? One is just a general concept and one makes you HAVE FUN in videogames and LOOK COOL so you can brag. Endgame ZZZ is not cool nor fun.
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Shifu love!!!
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>12 Days 21 Hours 47 Minutes
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>>553099964
so, you need skill to have anything to brag in zzz? Unless I do full p2w m6w5
so indeed zzz requires skill
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>>553099740
I accept your concession.
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>>553100062
I would understand idolfags but why didn't you roll them the first time?
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Ben Bigger raped Zhao
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>>553100105
Diddy blud post
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>>553099964
so if i practice and memorize quake wall jump it's a skill
just like I need to memorize Harumasa long skill chain combo to be effective
sure zzz take skill
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>>553100195
I started in 1.7 and lost the Alice 50
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need miyabi wiggling gif
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>>553100195
I lost my Soldier 0 Sanby 50/50 to Harin.
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>>553100419
Pffft......
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>>553100419
Hahaha fufu is so cute and funny
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You know what. Im gunna say what we're all thinking. Stop trying to waifu bait with all these random new characters. Im not interested.

Let ME go on dates with Belle through the game. I want a First Person gameplay of walking around, taking her to a movie, going to the cafe, holding her hand, buying flowers, muff diving her dyed blue jungle while she "proxies" a mission. All the normal stuff we already do in hangouts really.
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>>553100176
That's no fair! Zhao's cheating!!
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>>553100548
After several fetishes, he finally ariived
the sisterfucker
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>>553100548
There's literally an event in the game about going to the cinema with her
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>>553100301
>quake wall jump
Are you serious, pretending or baiting by talking about some obscure shit you can pull off in QC? Or maybe you're confusing rocket jumps/edgejumps?
You're clueless nigga.
>>553099930
You're also a clown because your seething meltdowns entertain me!
I mean you've made like 50 spelling errors in the last hour. You are mashing your keyboard because you're so butthurt.
Simmer down, bro.
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>>553100419
STOP POSTING FUFUMENTOSCOLA
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>>553100195
I'm pulling Astra because she is sex
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Any leaks for 3.0? I don't give a fuck about the idols desu~
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>>553098435
You're right, it really was barely any different, the more cdmg with full buffs ended up barely doing a slither more than the left
I don't really have goot ATK 5 disks to test it properly, the ones I did test it with did worse but those have 1 less substat roll
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>>553100796
We're getting ye Uchiha before 3.0 and then sunbringer probably
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>>553100796
ye shiyuan physical rupture
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>>553100686
>You're also a clown because your seething meltdowns entertain me!
that means you're not having any fun at all, since there's no meltdown. Such a sad statement
>mmuh spelling
again, not an aargument
>Simmer down, bro.
please get some basic education before you start trying to patronize someone. Half of your post shitted on game theory, a paper with noble prize(inb4 it's economical paper), because, ahem, you are overly emotional about some aspects so it's wrong because you dislike X
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>>553100973
AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEE STOP IT STOP POSTING THIS
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>>553100973
Hahaha Fufu is so cute and funny
>>553101012
Keep posting it, it's very cute and funny
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My wives
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>>553099964
>You realize that "human skills" and "skill expression in a videogame" are very different things, right?
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>>553100910
They better make Sunbringer about Lighter's height at least. There isn't a single female character over 176cm. I want her to be freakishly tall and weird looking.
>>553100937
First B-Rank agent?
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>>553100937
Nah that would be S RANK BILLY THE DEMON
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>>553100937
>forced to skip him for sBilly like his sister
Please nyo... Let him be ether attack
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I'm going to coompost Yuzuha now.
anyone who hates yuzuha should get ready to leave.
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>>553101192
S-Rank Billy will be a stunner it's very obvious
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>>553101012
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>>553101291
Please go ahead. Make my penis happy anon
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>>553101340
hehehe very funny and cute
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>>553101173
>>553101340
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Miyabi is t0 garbage
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>>553101173
Wait, I recognize this image!
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>>553100950
Eh, low energy response. Calling you reddit at this point would give redditors too much credit.
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What does Yuzuha panties smell like after watching a 4 hour movie sandwiched by Alice and Proxy on either side of her the entire time
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>>553101584
They smell like Manato
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>>553101486
Yeah, on release Disorder Meebs was great. That fell off but it was fine because she had mono ice cheese. Now that mono ice cheese doesn't exist any more you need to actually play her properly and she just can't keep up as well as recent units or since Season 2 started should I say
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>>553101565
and yet, finally, a post without a single argument
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Manato gave me a foot job
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>>553101584
Like cheap $0.25 cherry candy and salt water
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>>553101669
whoops
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>>553101693
is that what's going on here?
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>>553101620
Manato is a single housewife taking care of his 2 kids and has never shown any kind of interest in any of Spook Shack's faction members
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>>553101693
Yidhari...
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Now that Sarah’s end goal has been finalised, how did her actions in Season 1 have anything to do with her end goal in Season 2
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>>553101758
Damn I didn't know wise was such a cutie. I kinda want to suck him off and listen to his cute little grunts and whimpers.
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>>553101662
Ok since you're so obsessed with my thoughts I'll share one with you.
>again, not an aargument
It is, in fact, an argument. I'm arguing that you're seething. My proof is all the spelling errors you've made.
Checkmate, faggot.
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Will S-Billy have aftershocks for S-Anby synergy?
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>homo/cuck/yuritranny woke up
>immediate cuck posting using Manato
Like clockwork
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>>553101889
I love it
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>>553101304
S-rank Billy will be the first multi-archetype agent in the game where you switch between Attack (Trickster), Rupture (Swordmaster), a parry based stunner Stunner (Royalguard), and ranged defense Defense (Gunslinger) based on your current Style.
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shifubros do i need more cr? i have her wengine btw.
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>>553101889
WHY IS HE GETTING A SKIN OVER SOMEONE LIKE LUCY?????
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>>553101950
I'm glad is skip midcia Pan is the only true rupture buffer
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>>553101793
She wanted to trap people in a hollow to save money for uhhh...
Anyway she tried to send Miyabi on a murderous rage so she can umm...
So then she joined the exaltists, and had multiple failed attempts to merge the hollow with the outside world, so that evil can be eradicated, and everyone can be equal. Which is why she tried many times to be evil and murder people for no reason? Is she trying to stop herself?
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>>553101984
Lucy's design is already perfect she doesn't need a skin. Pan needed the drip update
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>>553101984
Literally. The CCP is trying to force its hideous chingchong bingbong style so hard, I hate it.
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>>553102080
i'd like to see her in ojousama outfits or school uniform
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>>553102085
You can't look at this drippy mf and seriously say you hate him bro
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>>553101872
nope, because
>In logic and critical thinking, an argument must give reasons or evidence to support a claim. Simply labeling a person attacks the person, not the idea they’re expressing.
labeling me mad/seething/whatever, is indeed, not an argument
calling someone mad is ad hominem
using typo as argument for someone being mad is a non sequitur
please, less internet, more education. It's worrying. I'm not even arguing at this point, but giving you a free lessons instead. Ain't getting paid for that
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>>553102043
Voice acting is bad. But damn those areloaeaeaes...
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>>553102085
>cp
Do Chinese men really?
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>>553101984
New character privilege. You could ask why the fuck Miyabi or Burnice dont have one too.
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Sex with Yuzuha
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>>553102159
People are just weird like that
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>>553101972
bros?
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Agent for this feel?
https://youtu.be/SOxutBMCOUc
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>>553102529
Sorry can't help I skipped shitfu
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>>553102157
It would be worse than her default outfit and would never use them, just like most 2.x skins
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>>553102162
>calling someone mad is ad hominem
Here we go again with you being a retard and not understanding the conversation...
You realize that me calling you mad has nothing to do with the original "ZZZ is not hard" argument, right? I was mocking you. No one is going to seriously argue about whether or not an anonymous user is mad and make it part of his original argument. KEK
Anyone with some common sense would understand but that's just too much to ask from gachaniggers I guess.
Well, my argument still stands. You're mad because of your spelling errors. Are you going to disprove it? What's the reason for the sloppy spelling then?
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>>553102714
variety is the spice of life anon
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>everyone outside here suddenly 'liking' Shifu after she became a fraud
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Foof foof...
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>>553102764
Someone 4 post above is calling her shitfu lmao
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is 3.0 gonna be another notVH like Shifu?
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>>553102764
Retards only pretend to hate powerful characters until they are powercrept.
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>>553102812
Shes 12
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>>553102893
Yes
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>>553102909
out of 10!
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>>553102812
cringe, black and off model
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>>553102764
zzz has a contrarian problem.
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>>553102893
what the fuck do you think they will do for the 2nd anniversary? Release filler flops like sneed?
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Can someone post their shitty DA scores so I can bully and make fun of them
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>>553101984
because this is a soulful game, the devs thought
>haha let's bling the fuck out of the panda for fun
instead of just desperately trying to appeal to coomers and pedophiles
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Yuzuha Ukinami!

Thoughts on her?
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I hate Shifu and Shunko, Tiananmen Square best day of my life
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>>553102812
i can never understand the folks who like this type of porn. why do the dicks need to be comically large and black. its as if the ones who enjoy it watch it for the dicks instead of the female. are they closeted homos or worse, they don't realize they're homos.
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13 more days...
13 more days...
13 more days...
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>>553101889
Ben is still cooler.
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>>553102764
To be fair. Yi Xuan really wasn't that bad initially. It was the whole other characters stealing her outfit and the writers turning her into an overbearing Mary Sue.
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>>553102761
>here we go again with you being a retard and not understanding the conversation...
not an argument again. Calling someone names or/and mental state was and never will be
>You realize that me calling you mad has nothing to do with the original "ZZZ is not hard" argument, right?
you're mixing scopes, commiting logical fllacy now. The scope of previous post was withing that post
> I was mocking you. No one is going to seriously argue about whether or not an anonymous user is mad and make it part of his original argument.
but you did, several times, failing to "bait" me into giving in
>Anyone with some common sense would understand but that's just too much to ask from gachaniggers I guess.
there's no need in common sense when argument si grounded in reality and real examples
>Well, my argument still stands. You're mad because of your spelling errors. Are you going to disprove it? What's the reason for the sloppy spelling then?
Your argument doesn't stand because it isn't one. Mental state(mad seething w/e) does not logically follow from a typo(non sequitur). I simply don't care enough to double-check what i type. The proper would be 'for fuck sake retard check your spelling it's a pain to read". Meanwhile, you tried to twist it into argument to win. And, following the basic and extremly old rules of discussion, is even less of an argument
please, again, get a proper level of education
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>>553103196
Anon it’s not that complicated, you are right, they are homosexual. The schizo who spams here kind of proves it anon, what does he spam, scat, blacked porn and gay porn. It’s what they like
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>>553103112
only shungus here have sig, everyone at m0
roast me
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>>553103112
be mean to me
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>>553103134
>instead of just desperately trying to appeal to coomers and pedophiles
do you realize what game you are playing
do you realize what character you attached to your posts
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>>553089786
>YYZ
Humiliation ritual zzzookekkers
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>>553103321
I don't mind that she's a Mary Sue, just keep showing her lazy as fuck side, loved when they portrayed her as a scammer too kek.
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>>553103574
do you realize what the subject of that conversation is?
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>>553103147
i think
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>>553103373
but they claim to be straight though, that's the thing that bugs me.
is there ever a point where they come to the realization that the main focus of their hobby is on other men's dicks? when your collection is 90% dicks and 10% pussy, is that not when it dawns on you? it's just weird.
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>>553103321
I would’ve preferred her to be the lazy master that sat around all day eating pork buns if she was gonna be as op as she was
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>>553103526
shit that's old pic
still I'm waiting
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>>553103665
I look like this irl
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>>553103665
the subject that i started is your claim of the game not desperately trying to appeal to coomers and pedophiles, which is lol, all it's been doing since the start
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>>553090203
She's so fucking ugly, skip. I'll pull for Aria though
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>>553090203
She's so fucking kino. I'll pull and never pull out though
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New Shiyu tomorrow
Are we excited or scared?!
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>>553103840
>if we ignore everything else the game does, all it does is what's left
indeed, very smart.
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>>553102764
Sad Shifu a cute!
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Post your biggest brick
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>the wanderer
>16k with shitty mibibi anomaly team
I don't see the problem
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>>553103840
Koleda's sweaty armpits + my face
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>>553103975
Genuinely no idea where to use her. She's dead weight in my account. She's never done me any good in any endgame mode.
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What if they announced that Alice Thymefield has been removed from the game and all polys associated have been refunded to your account?
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>>553103360
>The proper would be 'for fuck sake retard check your spelling it's a pain to read"
But that wouldn't be fun, now would it? Much better to have you embarrass yourself by saying retarded shit.
>Meanwhile, you tried to twist it into argument to win.
Nope. I didn't. Already explained it. I was already done with the previous argument and now mocking you with a half-serious argument that you took as serious like a colossal retard you are.
>I simply don't care enough to double-check what i type.
So why did you have perfect spelling in your original post, and the more I disproved you, the more spelling errors you made? :)
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>>553104181
need this shungus mod NOW
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idol breeding...
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>>553103993
nice greentext deflect to some random bullshit
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>>553104132
Shouldn't have indulged in (You) slop
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nHAgIPvCt0
the music is so good, bwos
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>>553098482
I am literally wise though
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>got zhao and her weapon
>realize I don't raelly have anything to make a team with her
I tried S11 but something was off.
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>>553104181
>open
>remember i'm at work
I'm getting fired
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>>553102764
Shifu always was an ok character, who doesn't like middle-aged jobber hags with big tits?
The issue always was, as always, how she was written in the main story
Fuck nu-ZZZ "writers"
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>>553104472
Im sure your boss likes horse cock too
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>>553104427
As the devs intended
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>>553103526
>only shungus here have sig, everyone at m0
There was an anon who literally doubled your score with the exact same setup so you are a subhuman, maybe about half to two thirds of a person
>20k on fiend with Alice Jane
>20k with OP Shifu
Just march yourself into a gas chamber already holy shit

>>553103552
Your YSG score unironically looks like the average redditor
You know the smug loser who thinks hes way better than he is and constantly lectures others on how to play? Yeah I'm talking THAT sort of person
Also what the fuck is that Yixuan score
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>>553104512
I'm sure that whoever saw it liked it, still getting fired though.
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>>553104427
>>553104546
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>>553104308
I reported a naked robot walking around to NEPS.
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>>553104487
If they wrote her like that flower shop lady I'd like her 200% more
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Ye shungus slow ass banner killed the hype.
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>worms flop
>shungus filters the cuckshipper
>the thread suddenly has normal autists shitflinging at each other and decent art
who would have thunk it
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C&C fiancee
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>>553104238
>But that wouldn't be fun, now would it? Much better to have you embarrass yourself by saying retarded shit.
nope, you're trying to conjure something deeper from a single fact. The fact is that i'm not checking my posts. That's it. It's like you're angry that your expectatiosn got subverted
>Nope. I didn't. Already explained it. I was already done with the previous argument and now mocking you with a half-serious argument that you took as serious like a colossal retard you are.
it's not half-serious argument because it's not argument at all. You either lack education or intelligence, or sadly both, to understand that. Like the very concept is beyond your understanding. I even used latin so you could've easier time googling what it means. But even this was too ahrd for you.
>So why did you have perfect spelling in your original post, and the more I disproved you, the more spelling errors you made? :)
that would require me to actually pay attention to that. Possible theory is that because your post devolved so much in quality, while having no actual arguments, my focus shifted from making a counterargument to making a school-tier explanation to someone who so far proved himself to not be qualified to hold any argument because he doesn't know how argumentation or discussion works. This is you. Quite literally you dropped so low that I don't need more brainpower shifted to make arguments with claims and evidence. I'm actually very sad about person(you) behind the screen reasoning like that. Because you have entire internet under your palm, yet you prefer to rely on emotional outbursts
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>>553104568
>Also what the fuck is that Yixuan score
I'm sorryy!! I'm just too dumb to figure out her ult's animation cancel.
I got about the same score with Koleda/Manato before. So I definitely don't deserve Yixuan...
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>>553097263
This guy has decent shit ngl
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>>553104472
retard
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Can someone post that comic? You know, that one that's really funny.
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>>553104908
Unlike 90% of the trendhoppers he actually plays the game
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>>553104950
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>>553104810
i agree but off model, so a cringe post anyway
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>>553105007
Not that one you fucking mongrel
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SEX CUNNY SOON
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>>553104950
Of course. Only Fufu can be this funny.
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Why are these guys spamming the same image?
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>>553103196
>>553103373
>>553103683
The WIsepag projection goes crazy here
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They should bring back TV mode to filter all the ADHD sweatniggers
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is Aria from a different designer? she looks so out of place from the rest angels of delusion.
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>>553104132
Skill issue
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>>553105103
she is big
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>>553104950
i don't have it saved so i drew it from memory
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>>553105536
Mizubear design
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>>553104894
>too dumb to figure out her ult's animation cancel
with a dogshit score like that you have bigger problems than a niche tech that improves your score by less than 5%
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>>553105536
No, it was designed by WaterKuma before the release. You can confirm that through his retweets on X. It is the final legacy he left for ZZZ.
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>>553105489
then correct me for the record, anon. give a straight answer to the question. no pussyfooting around it. do you at this moment have images of other men's dicks on your computer or phone?
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>>553105805
wonned bigly
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>>553105651
off model posting means you don't actually like or care about the character so you are not a miyabibro and are cringe
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>>553090290
I just came back to the game recently, did they buff her?
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>>553105810
Yes I have hundreds of images of a buff off-model Wise fucking girls with his massive cock and I'm proud of it.
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>>553105886
Yeah. When you do your weekly stuff you get this currency that you can buy buffs for a couple of characters for. You get 1k a week, so 1 buff.
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>>553091858
how good is 11 now? i only have her as a potential upgrade chara
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>>553105886
yes, >>553090165 is an image of ellen's new buffs screen.
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>>553105747
He left the team? No wonder the designs fucking suck now.
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>>553106090
about on par if slightly worse than eve at m2
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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Just woke up for a dream where I had to choose between a girl with black hair that looked like Belle and a girl that kinda looked like Ye Shenguang.
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>*attempts to intimidate you*

wat do
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>>553106049
I'd say based but I presume those are AI slop, because I have been looking.
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>>553106149
i have eve on mindscape 1 because i got two of her in one 10 roll back when i pulled close to a year ago, wonder if i should focus on 11
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>>553106049
>anon admit's he's a faggot
okay thanks for correcting the record
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>>553105810
Fyi, this is who you're trying to have a conversation with
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>>553106137
Looking at the recently released character drafts for 2.x, it doesn't look like his art style, so he's probably no longer the main designer.
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>>553105851
>off model posting (term which I just invented) means [no true scotsman] because uhhh
Talk about cringe
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>>553106191
67!!
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STOP POSTING IMAGES SHOWING FUFU IN BAD LIGHT
or else
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>>553106260
Your Eve should still be better then. S11 is pretty fun to use though, but you might be better off using your resources elsewhere
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>>553106381
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>>553106469
Me every time I enter this general
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>>553106309
>because
you don't accept the character's canonical body shape as it is.
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>>553106285
Yeah he's right. Wisefags are all closet cucks
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>>553106275
Every day I regret not picking Belle
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>>553106254
>because I have been looking.
Same, there's such a dearth of good Wise porn. He needs to be jacked and the image should be 90% him while the girls are mostly off screen or I can't get hard.
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>>553106519
>off model posting means you don't actually like or care about the character
>no wait it means when the character is off model!!
are you having an aneurysm
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>>553106090
I don't know man, but really fun to play
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>>553104132
Bibi
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you would worship seed's feet if she asked
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>>553106642
Holy ESL
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Roll provoking smile.
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>>553106323
I knew you would like that.
Anyway the two girls showed up at my door asking who the other girl was.
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>>553106992
Holy RETARD
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>>553106469
Why did the writers throw Shifu under the bus like that?
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>>553106252
Laugh
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>>553106569
>talking about yourself in 3rd person
You're an unironic homo poster that writes out entire gay fanfics to own the "Wise chuds", spams yuri/cuck/aicuck slop
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/552585524/deleted/deleted
You haven't got any leg to stand on when you turn yourself into a homo because some male MC in a gacha game mindbroke you
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>>553107068
Uh oh SEA melty
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so there we have it. definitive proof wisefags are homosexuals.
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>>553106642
>off model posting (when the character is off model) means you don't actually like or care the character
yes, what part did you not understand?
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This is your Yuzuha replacement. Any questions?
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>>553106642
NTA but he's right.
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>>553107310
You're going to have to falseflag, samefag and push the narrative a bit harder than that, tranny >>553107140
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>>553107292
see >>553107335
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>>553107393
her ass is too small to replace yuzuha
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>>553107310
Pretty much, it's the same case as Aetherpags, Caeluspags, [self-insert character]pags that isn't just a faceless dude without a personality nor a voice.
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Is it the same Yanagi's jp voice actress? She sounds kinda different from what i remember.
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"I love this character so much I bastardize their design to get my goon on!"
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>>553107068
You buckbroke him so much he samefagged 3 times
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>>553107393
she's a stunner
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>>553107393
>Yuzuha replacement.
As if I'm not just running two anomaly teams
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I tried to pull for Zhao-chan's engine, but i lost. I failed her...
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>>553107481
just feels good to have them readily admit it. its indefensible now. they used to weasel out of it before.
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>>553107590
You failed her and the Zhao guild
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>>553107789
I think i need to pay now and pull again so She doesn't kill herself.
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>>553107864
Do it for her
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Here's your new Yuzuha skin.

Thoughts?
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>>553107964
i look like this
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>>553107590
If you can't even do that how can she expect you to take care of her and the 10+ children she wants?
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>>553107964
Wife.
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Fufu's here!
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Does ANYONE except Ben wants Def? WILL anyone?
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>>553107964
I wish she looked like this now.

>>553107978
Post pictures.
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>>553106519
>posts shitty art without Trigger's iconic shot coin hairpin
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>>553107964
Here's your new Yuzuha skin.

Thoughts?
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>>553107964
too white
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Cutehari Murphy
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I wish there were more videos of Aria strolling through the city. I wonder what her footsteps sound like.
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>>553107964
Finally, she looks like she belongs to Spook Shack.
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>>553104308
Can't believe they will force me to use mods on this one.
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Waterkuma will be rehired after AoD proves to be a resounding success.
Cozy casettepunk with absolutely no chink wuxia shit will resume.
ZZZ will be saved.
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>>553108139
>WILL anyone?
Save it and dunk on people with it when the day comes.
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>>553107964
that's not Yuzuha though
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>>553108126
>>553108235

see >>553107335
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>>553108275
>absolutely no chink wuxia shit
God if only...
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>>553108219
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doing 20K with my Sanby team on Sarah's DA fight was harder than expected. Does she resist aftershock or something?
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fufunigger spammer confirmed for off model poster
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>>553107964
black and brown skin tone look so good in 2d
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>>553108275
Unfortunately, even if we spend money on charging events for our idols, it’ll be seen as YSG's success, not the idols'. It’s frustrating, but people will end up saying the idols failed anyway
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>>553107393
I don't have Yuzuha
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>>553108590
The developers literally have the metrics to see where people are putting their money and rolls.
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>>553108534
Problem?
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>>553108340
Cutehari Murphy
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>>553108590
Chinese machine generated AI shitposts might say that but Hoyo can see where people's resources are used.
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>>553108785
fake fan
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>>553108275
I'm sorry to say this but AoD won't beat Shungus
not meta enough, not mainstream enough
liking them will be stigmatized with pedo accusations
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Fufu posters avatarfagging are annoying as hell. Go back to /hsrg/, you'll find plenty of your own kind there.
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Sure, why not
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>>553108934
But I'm fufu's biggest fan thougheverbeit
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>>553108590
Hoyo knows you're the minority anyway
>is actually a 10:90 ratio instead of a 9:91 ratio
fascinating
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>>553108981
>stop posting /zzz/ characters in the /zzz/ general!!!!
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>>553109062
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Shifu so divine
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>>553109108
You don't like her, off model poster
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Why are there always numerous seethe posts with zero replies in these threads
Doesn't it get boring?
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>>553109062
Would you say she's cute and funny?
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>>553109157
I'm NTA gwo
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>>553109210
He confirmed he's the schizo anti-ing other characters for """off model"""
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Are the AOD real indies or are we selling them out to our TOPS friends?
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>>553108340
SEA is still having a melty
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>>553109375
Is this a new one or one of the local's changing tactics
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>>553109365
It's even better when they accuse you of samefagging but they are the ones doing it :3
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>>553109441
He avatarfags with chinky and fufu
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>>553109394
We better be selling them, they can't even afford to pay rent for their studio...
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>>553109663
>>553109663
>>553109663
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>>553109670
>Pag pag OP
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>>553109365
>>553109517
Schizo melty
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>>553108975
I don't think VHs should be the standard to compare other agents' sales to anyway
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>>553096759
HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW MINECRAFT BUNNIES???
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there. that should do it.
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