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I'm convincing Pilky to comeback and manage twg as we speak
I was going through the leaked town hall and it doesn't seem like the majority of managers even gave an opinion or felt strongly about one over the other. 80% of the messages were from the same like 10 people.
I need a full list of pro-19 and pro-21 people
>>553182751>tranny loveno
>>553183763Most people preferred 19 but if you have an agenda you can handwave them as having no strong opinion unlike /akg/'s strong opinion.
>>553183763And how many were strongly for 21? Also they actually were talking about how raped they were by 19 in there, is not even a meme kek.
>>553184675No proof of this
>>553184873just ignore, he acts like a bot, it's clearly someone's who's mentally ill.
>>553183763>80% of the messages were from the same like 10 people.Perhaps the same could be said of all discords
>>553182751>sgbong love
>>553183763>>553185408these numbers also track for twitter/x - top 20% of tweeters make 80% of tweets or whatever
>>553185408Your shitposts are as empty as your soul. Anonkind ill needs a savior such as you.
>>553184694>Most people preferred 19I don't think most managers even gave an opinion
Can we get an autist to post who preferred what if anything please.
>>553184873More proof than the opposite>>553185053>t. tranny
>>553187384that's not how it works and no there isn't
>>553186871>Reso: 21 (RAPED BEYOND BELIEF BY 19)The single vote that mattered.
>>553187656Keep coping SIR
>>553187384ywnbaw
>this entire thread rn
>me rn
Hello guys
>>553189381>>553188829
>>553189493Good. I love being a man.
>>553184847Nobody was strongly for 21.I can't fathom why the fuck its being forced when NOBODY seems to want it.
>>553193349KWABellum and Reso wanted it.
>>553186305Enough! Have at you!
>>553193349KWABa wanted it
>>553193349VTL people mostly
>>553193349The only strong 21 advocates were the ones whose opinions mattered more than 90% of the people.The game was rigged from the start. Town hall was an isane psyop and I hope that at least some managers will have balls to boycott reither VGL26 or the next town hall by some means.
>>553193349Because nobody really wants 19 either. Both options are shit so people went for something fresh instead of jumping between the same two games.
>>553193943Lmao.>>553193848VTL people hate 21 too, its just TMA
>>553193943Holy LARP lmao
>>553194016I like 19 but I wanted 21 first to make the time since last 19s VGL a little longer.
>>553194016>I'm bored of strawberry and vanilla, so I think it's time to try fresh feces instead
>>553194016if both options are shit then why are we moving from lesser shit to bigger shit or HUGE shit?
>>553193943I'm not happy with townhall being a joke and with 21, but I will not "boycott" the league. All that would happen is just my general not playing and no one would care, it would be just a punishment for them. I will just not play ball for the next "town hall" for rules or whatever, on top of that they end up leaking them and people just end up name dropping managers that participated on it earnestly.
another bubble vgl is upon us.can't wait for /pcrg/'s star
There's unironically nothing wrong with staying on 17 forever, just saying. It can be shaken up through rulesets more than any other version if you really want to keep things """fresh""".Cornerslop is not nearly as insufferable as absolute 3-4-3 domination.
>>553194016>Because nobody really wants 19 eitherThat's so disingenuous of you. Are you someone from VGLco in denial?
The copper thief was right on leaking it, only raped lolcows would cry over the town hall getting leaked.
>>553194520Cornerslop on 17 is not nearly as bad as free kick free goal on 21, it's so bad people in the audience quickly notices it. Just watch some VGL 18/19 games and you will see people just know it is coming.
>>553194541This part is true thoThe discourse was disingenuous from the beginning because everyone was left with the choice of 19 vs 21 when I bet my ass that many people would preferably just not change at all
>>553194520while 17 gets a lot of hate for being too random it's also the most exciting pes to watch.we all know how 16 matches play out.foxpes has a lot of issues and honesty need more people step up and bee the patch guy if they want foxpes to be good
>>553194541No, I just don't like 19 so much I'd rather try something new. I would've preferred 16 or trying out 20 instead, but we didn't get much choice.
>>553194016What do you mean? Nigga nearly everyone that wasn't disinterested with the entire conversation was for 19 but was willing to consider 21 assuming they had good reasons for it. The only reasons that were given for 21 was >better aes which is fair>the medal change which could also be done in 19>muh getting it out of the way excuse The latter of which nobody from VGLco has explained why it has to happen especially if everyone here recognizes that 17 and 19 are the superior PES anyway. Again this all stems from having the shitty townhall in the first place when they've already made up their minds on which PES to use anyway.
>>553194919>foxpes has a lot of issues and honesty need more people step up and bee the patch guy if they want foxpes to be goodIt was already tried and it was mostly to make 21 work. People can try but there is only so much patches can change when the fundamentals of one game are already coded a certain way.>>553195092The only silver lining from townhall was that PES 16 isn't completely dead, but you will have to wait forever for it to be used.
All the fun stuff always happens when I'm asleep
>>553195415How much do you fucking sleep
>>5531954417h 1-8am sounds like a what a healthy adult would have on a work day
>>553195415You missed the melty.
Honestly it wouldn't look as bad if town hall wasn't supposed to be such a big dealReso could've refrained from admitting to being raped by 19 too
>we'll ask managers what they think>managers want 19>yep we're going to 21what's the logic
>>553195827apparently he voted for 19 anyways so I wonder what the point was
>>553195901>You can have any pes you want as long as you want 21.
>>553196004probably misinfo but that makes me wonder which vglco members are to be lynched for this decision denkypow and bob come to mind
>>553196287Those two, I don't believe Reso would vote for 19 either
>>553195901>>553195827Yeah Townhall was pointless. But mostly giving the possibility of using 19 if they were going to shut it down for any arbitrary reason like "it's been used a lot" or "I got raped by /twg/"
At least 15 and 16 are officially useable now
>>553196729The fact that a VGLco member could genuinely use an argument of "I was raped on 19" is baffling.
>>553196287nothing will happen and everyone will clap when we're back on 19 or 17
hi guys I just want to say that someone in the vglco channel pointed out that moving to 21 has a 99% chance of making the copperman retire and we all thought that would be hilarious. other managers and viewers weren't considered at all, we had no time to discuss their opinions. if the feedback form will be bad 21 will be let go of after vgl26.
>>553197051Oh? Aoba finally managed to add portraits to 15 and 16?
>>553197065wow armpits
>>553197216There's a workaround with OBS
>>553197065german horse sex
>>553197216VGLco wants to trial something with OBS overlays apparently
>>553197336Watch every single streamer fuck it up.
>>553197437you weren't supposed to point that out
>>553197437Come on you're not supposed to be negative before it even happens
>>553197437Sounds like a pain in the ass, are portraits really that big of a deal? >>553197615>how do you know it's shit bro
>>553197615Fucking watch me.
>>553197648i look like this
>>553197642>why attempt anything at allI'm glad you're not in charge of things
>>553197642>are portraits really that big of a deal?They aren't for streamers because they have to rely on name instructions anyway but they are for managers and viewers would probably prefer having them than not
Portraits: Good, funnyNo portraits: Bad, boring
>>553197642I'm struggling to see why trying to have everything available is a bad thing?
>15 and 16 are totally on the table guys!>Just come back for the January 2028 town hall and we'll discuss them then!
Yep I hate everything. Just absolutely despise everything about what is currently happening. I will be sticking around to make sure everyone else feels the same as me.
>>553197901Sorry guys, I know you guy wants 16 but we won't be able to do it because it doesn't have portraits and the dopamine addicted manages need them to know who is in their team. Aoba spent the last two years adding some dogshit celebrations no one used or whatever. >>553198006>plewwwse give 21 a chance
I had to check who was online currently before replying. Close one.
>>553196498he did
>>553198286This only makes the decision for 21 look worse but ok. Reso isn't as raped as he looks.
>>553198286BAH GAWDIT'S 1500 PIPEBOMBS WITH STEEL CHAIRS!
>>553198286if this is true then I really have no fucking idea why Denko went with 21.
>several hours later>not a single person removed themselves as managerNothingburger
>>553198440I will quit right before the cup, I just wanna prove something.
>>553182751so you love sangen cock then?
let me tell you something
>>553198517thanks bro, I wanted to dodge qualies.
>>553198438>>553198286This doesn't make it clear who pushed for 21 for you?>>553198440A lot of the backlash comes from town hall, no one is going to quit over 21. If they had picked 21 from the beginning I think it wouldn't have caused this meltdown
>>553198534you don't?
>>553198554So this is how KWABellum escapes qualies this time.
As someone rationally speaking I appreciate one last ditch attempt at 21. If it fails, give us winter on 19 and then go to 16 for 2027. I will not give a shit if this happens.
>>553198857I wanna try 18 or 20.
As someone rationally speaking I appreciate one last ditch attempt at making shit taste good. If it fails, give us actual food in winter and then dessert in 2027. I will not give a shit if this happens.
>food analogy
>>553198857I think 21 for just one cup would be ok. Announcing two whole years of PES in advance feels excessive. >>55319898020 is basically 21 from the looks of it. 18 would be interesting
I know it's poor form but come on guys he's literally typing exactly like gio.
>>553199059you eat shit?
>>553199167Who are you quoting?
>>553199129It seems in the 'cord after the announcement nomo was pretty much already leaning into a possible opt out.
Give me 21 for the VTL humiliation ritual then let's go to the next pes
21 won cos it hasn't been used in a while that's really all
>>553200401Who decided that?
>>553200564Aoba's onlyfans leaks
>>553200564Big old Raped
Laugh at everyone who thought that Town Hall was ever gonna be relevantThey'll do the same shit with the ruleset btw
Its worst sin is patchshit and there's already a patch decided so hopefully patchfags will fuck off
>>553200729They've already taken the GSSBB thing from town hall tho
Aoba did you know i have it on good authority that my friend skully voted 21 because quote "do it for aoba"You better make it good
>>553200871that's what they want you to think, the decision was made before the final day
aoba olev
>>553200837Yeah, it's gonna be the world cup patch, kekypow!
>>553200401So again what was the town hall even for if it didn't factor in the decision at all?
>>553201318humiliation ritual
I don't care about PES versions.
>>553201363Why are you here during offseason then?
>>553200951How's an aesthetics monkey who's never managed supposed to make 21 good?
>>553201363Well, most of the people who press the buttons clearly do and they've been trapped and betrayed by the 'co
when are the rules getting posted on the wiki
>>553200837There is a patch decided and still they will keep an eye for unpatched 21 VTL, which is absurd because you already have a patch in mind.>>553201352Find out which managers VGLco doesn't like
>>553201487in like 4 months
>PES 15 poll>Town HallThe hundred flowers movements of PES.
>>553201551that seems a little late
>>553206179cute
>>553206179Would look better with huge breasts
>>553197051I feel like townhall would have successfully argued for 16 if allowed to.
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>>553206535false
I prefer 19 but I'm fine with trying 21 for at least one league
what was the fucking point of town hall if the majority's opinion was discarded and the given explanation was "21 hasn't been used in a long time"?
>>553211175this
>21 won>Triangle won>even more gacha teams>vtumor invasion angle from at least 5 different sidesvery grim year for very grim league
>>553211175The point was trying to push 21 on people. And then when that failed, push 21 through anyway
>>55321293421 didn't "win" lemao.Even if nobody does shit (nobody will), shit like this makes people stop giving a fuck about this (this being the whole memeball bullshit).Memeball doesn't die with a bang and a protest, it dies with indifference as less and less people give a fuck and stop showing up.
none of you are quitting over that so you're good obedient cucks and they're gonna do it again to see what's the limit
I'm wondering why you're bitching about it here and not in the discord where people in charge will actually read it
>>553211175which manager are you?
>>553213783the one you like
>>553213843i don't like any of them
>>553213728Because then you'd see for sure that there's only 4 dudes that care this much about it.
>>553211175me when I walk into a town hall expecting a fourth direct vote but instead get a town hall
>>553213728They're reading it too, just not talking about it publicly. If they actually aren't, there's no difference. If anything, the difference is "say what vglco doesn't like under your name and get banned" or "say what vglco doesn't like anonymously and get a few (You)s at least".It won't change shit because you're not supposed to go against the narrative, also most managers don't want to anger the gods and this way you end up with a convenient excuse of "it's just 2 raped people" or whatever.The 15 shitfest strikes back.
Didn't 21 come in second behind 17 the last time the viewers were polled?
>>553213728Because only a handful majorly care. The town hall did trend 19 over 21 but majority would have accepted either.
>>553214340Yes
Losing is getting dominated, not being chosen does not equal losing, PES19 simply had bad luck. PES21 didn't win, nobody sees PES21 as a winner, people only respect PES19 more after that match.
>>553213728You know, part of the problem is "the discord". This shit is supposed to be a board event, not a discord circlejerk.Instead its degenerated into discord ninnies doing whatever the fuck they wish with no regard for anon.
>>553216118The average anon from his general does not care what PES is used.
>>553216306So who should get to decide, then?
>>553216118As someone said during the 15 shitshow, if you want your opinion in this thread taken seriously by someone running things, then trip on and make your case like they did 10 years ago.
>>553216375VGLco
>>553216375Whoever gets triple zeroes.
>>553214241> say what vglco doesn't like under your name and get banned" Hasn’t happened
>>553216518Why bother with the town hall then?
>>553217543updating the lolcows list
>>553216418No, bitch, the last thing this, or any other place needs, is more histrionic tripfags. If everyone trips up then it's no different from discord. And then its all about politics and not stepping on toes and pleasing the right people and not offending the wrong one.The whole point of this place, the whole reason this isn't reddit is that its supposed to be anonymous. Its not about who says what but about what is said.Fuck your trips and your discord, that's why things are going to shit. Is are going even correct? Or is it simply are, at this point?
I know who you are
>>553217543To get opinions on pes versions to better make their decision
>>553218029the explanation was "it's been a while since 21's last time" so this really doesn't feel like any opinions were taken into consideration.
>>553217648>but about what is saidAnd yet every post is about how /akg/ and 3-4-3 touched them
>>553217854Oh yeah? Who am I?
just imagine if the vgl 26 final is held in qatar
I know where you are
I'd never expect to side with yurifags but /1992/ needs to rape /akg/ in semis or earlier again
>>553216418>begging dissenters to expose themselves hereWhat next, will we be getting a poll for 21? Not gonna lie, it would be funny seeing BoB pull a Crimson over it
>>553218226The point people don’t get is that it’s not necessarily about what is the best PES version for vgl26. From VGLco’s perspective there are only three viable PES versions -17,19, 21. 17 is currently being used, 19 has been extensively used until as recently as 2024 when many people were thoroughly sick of it. 21 was last used in 2022. Nobody was able to convince them that PES21 was so bad that it should never be used again.
HOT VGLCO INSIDER LEAKS:Nomo did a worms match to decide 19 vs 21.21 won.
>>553219646This is what they should just do everytime.
>>553217648Alright, let me examine the content of your argument.>I'm a faggy whining bitch wahhhhhhI'm convinced.
The "muh townhall didn't matter" fag is funny because he is basically crying that the top 10 discord posters didn't decide what pes version we are using.
>>553219754That'll get him to trip on for sure
>>553219485The point VGLco doesn't seem to get is that from the perspective of anyone but them, the whole thing was a farse. Why bother putting on this show, the townhall, etc if you already had a predetermined outcome, and clearly didn't give a fuck what people wanted?People dislike the farse aspect of the thing, why pretend to give a shit what people think, if ultimately, they didn't, and don't?
>>553219754This is the faggot telling you to trip up.
>>553218949Oh yeah? Where am I?
>>553219937I do agree that they should just establish a pes rotation and tell everyone that this is how the rotation is going to be.
I seriously wouldn't be mad about this shit if townhall wasn't made to sound like it mattersIf Nomo was to announce that they're picking 21 2 weeks ago or today without this fake discussion, I'd be okay with thatNow it looks like the people who actually make the show were asked for an opinion and that opinion was entirely ignored
>>553219937It isn't a farse. Maybe next time come up with an argument for 19 that isn't just "i was raped by 21"
>>553220372>Now it looks like the people who actually make the show were asked for an opinion and that opinion was entirely ignoredVGLco didn't ignore themselves, though?
I actually thought that townhall showed that the majority of managers were fine with either PES.
>>553220619Surely VGLco can do just fine without managers
>>553220726Retire then nigga there are 6 teams lined up for the next vgl and not enough spots
>>553220726How many managers care?
>>553220720townhall showed that when given the forced choice between 19 and 21, most would prefer 19, and the 21 advocates were visibly raped.
>>553220480Ironic post considering how raped the arkniggers get over 19 (despite being back to back finalists on it once upon a time)
>aoba jumps ship to vtl because they use pes21>nomo suddenly decides that vgl will use pes21 alsoi'm noooticing
>>553220961Most didn't seem to give an opinion. Keep coping.
Give one argument against 21 that isn’t muh 343
>>553221119Nomo has hinted at the switch back to Fox being for aesthetics people
We NEED eFootball.
>>553182816Please. Someone. /twg/ needs a manager
>>553221138It's a very fucking good argument especially when kwabson complained about the lack of export variety and denko doesn't want to enforce formation bans.You already know what's gonna happen and you're gonna pretend that it was the managers fault.
>>553221208YES SIR GLORY TO EFOOTBALL
>>553221208True efootball has never been tried.
>>553220193They already have said this multiple times. Did you 21 rape victims actually think going to 19 in vgl26 meant 21 would never be used?
>>553221208YES SIR, GLORY TO EFOOTBALL!
>>553221269Fuck /twg/.
>>553221281>because crimson said
21 is literally the most solved PES and patchfaggotry only makes things worse
VTL UTC3 begins today, it's unpatched and features a new ruleset
>>553221281>especially when kwabson complainedit'd be more notable if someone found something that he didn't complain
>>553221281>muh export variety oh noanyway
>>553221482Fuck the best team in the history of VGL? Okay tourist.
>>553221606being solved is a bad thing actually
>>553221606Have you tried, I dunno, not solving PES?
I hope the 'co commit to GSSBB for a few years to change things up. That alone gives me some optimism in a new iteration of 21
>>553221914If they're so good, how come they don't have a manager?
>>553221727Eat shit TMA nobody likes you.
>>553221914With no fans and no care
>>553222179That's most teams to be fair.
>>553222176raped
>>553221998oh man i dunno what people are gonna choosethe easy and proven and certified method or spend months on trying to develop something new which has a very high chance of ending up worse anyway
>VTLFuck yeah
>>553222121Damage is done! 3 stars, why do they need to keep competing? Don't get me wrong; 4 stars are better than 3.
>>553222449Why not 5?
>>553222449More stars than fans.
>>553222121where is that bitch from, i feel like i've seen her
The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be
>>553222908I'd like TWG more if it wasn't mostly about the worst Total Wars
>>553221460Yes
>>553221460>going to 19 in vgl26 meant 21 would never be used?No, but I wish it did. The constant returns to 17/19 happen for a reason.
>>553183763For me it’s the /ksg/ manager being ignored again and again.
Unity Cup 3 starts today with a Round of 36 shitfest featuring the teams that couldn't manage to unfuck their aes without help.I don't know if this is the final form of our 21 ruleset, but it's the best I have so far. Starting at 17:00 UTC on the /vt/ League cytube.
>>553222389Crimson will shit on you if you run the meta, you don't want that do you?
hmmmm yes today i will copy vgl19 /twg/ and blame it on getting pes'd if i don't win
>>553220372>>553219937I'm curious what gave you the impression the townhall was going to be the deciding factor. Generally decisions aren't made just because one group is louder than the other.
>/4ccg/ crying that 'cord lolcows didn't get the last word in the choice of PES
>>553223757Presumably the decisions get made by whoever is loudest in VGLco
>>553223885>'cord lolcows crying in /4ccg/ that they didn't get the last word in the choice of PESftfy
>>553223757I'm basically certain that the vglco channel discussion was someone screaming that they got raped on 19 so they want 21 instead.
>>553223885As if 21 was any more popular here.
>>553224310according to the defense force 21 was popular in the polls
>>55322431021 did well in multiple polls including vgl viewer polls
>>553224426Crimson-tier levels of cope
>they did well in the polls!!!!>may we see them>NO1!!!!!!
>>553224610Post them.
>>553186305What is a PES? A miserable little pile of spaghetti! But enough goals, have at you!
Trvke: The only people getting this worked up over PES versions and threaten to do boycotts, 4cpl memes, etc are discord lolcows that use 4ccg to anonymously vent so people won't make fun of their sperging and they can make it look like public sentiment agrees with them more than in actuality.
>>553224921It was held after VGL24, you'd know if you were around, you'll act like it never happened like a true rape victim though kekypow
I don't care about PES versions because I'm goated in all of them
>>553225978Why bother with the town hall if it didn't mean anything?
I don't care about PES version but if townhall was supposed to help decide the PES version and the complete opposite of townhall's choice was picked then I don't know why even bother
>>553226192Town hall actually showed that a majority of managers were fine with either PES. Without major opposition, VGLco proceeded with the plan.
>>553226276Townhall didn’t even have a vote
so it's gonna be a back and forth of "most wanted 19" and "most were neutral"notice how it's never "most wanted 21" because that was a complete and now verifiable lieutterly rigged and pointless
We should have more townhalls until they vote the way I want
>>553226331It would be strange if VGLco had major opposition to their own plans, wouldn't it?
>>553226192Obviously it did matter since they are considering changing up the medal system, raped lolcow
somebody really needs to compose a list of 19fags, 21fags and eitherfags
>>553226668Just like they were considering 19, haha
>>553226908lmao
>>55322676921fags /pg/ /nikg/ /alg/ /akg/ All of aesco except Foreground
Being raped by PES21 is not a personality
>>553227376Being raped by PES19 is
>>553227376*Being raped by PES is not a personality
>>553227425>but what 19
i was raped by /twg/
>>553226547trvke
>>553227342Wrong board Mette.
>>553222449/vrg/ will win their 3rd star soon after going on another Mercbrush Elimination Tour in '26 and /twg/ will be forced to come out of hiding caretaken by Mercbrush again
So, who are the raped so far?Gio is one for sure, any other 19 advocate?
>>553228198*blocks your path*
>>553228374BoB and Reso were so raped by /twg/ on 19 (but apparently not 21, weirdly enough) that they rallied against it
>>553228526they won so they're unrapedonly losers can be raped so this makes all 19 advocates gaped by definition
I'm never raped.
>>553228526Unironically what >>553228629 said, they're unraped, I'm asking for the lolcows bitching about the obvious decision.
one more patch and 21 will be fixed
>>553228629>hold all the cards from the beginning>win (by default)You do have a point there. So, what was the point of the town hall again?
genuinely what's the point of managing or testing if everyone just runs 343
>>553228835Humiliation ritual. Publicly humiliated lolcow count: 1 (Gio), hopefully it won't stop there
>>553228374ubertroon and mercbitch, they were both crying in town hall saying "please anything but 21 :("sangen to an extent since it's the one pointing out how the town hall wasn't necessary
>>553228835To weed out lolcow opinions like yours
I refuse to think that all this is just Gio, another lolcow scapegoat masterclass.
>>553228994Uber was crying for someone to pls respond to him
>>553222575More stars than anyone.
>>553228427Shes not retarded for the first time wow.
cloud
>>553229225>Jr. Reso gamethe breeder saga game adaptation is real? hyp
>>553229225>rabi dogshit>reso game>pes raped vtl>townhall managers lolcows
>>553229225>townhall managers lolcows
>>553228994Merc lost bigly. VGL21 and now 16 back on menu.
>>553228947>>553229014It's a good thing you guys aren't speaking for the council here because this would come off as unbelievably spiteful and petty
>ASS ignoring /4ccg/>kekboard closed >town hall opened then promptly ignoredThe VGL community has never been more voiceless.
>>553229225haven't had a cloud so true in a while
>>553229405Anon...
>>553228994she's not wrong THOUGH
>>553223757So you agree it was a farse from the start. Alright then.
If a majority of managers were against 21 I think the town hall would have been listened to.
If a majority of /akg/ managers were against 21 I think the town hall would have been listened to.
>>553229770The funny thing here is anyone trusted VGLco in the first place.Line up for your fell for it again award lolcows
>>553229770Farce
>>553229770>So you agree it was a [schizo headcanon]Kek what a raped bitch
If VGLco didn't want to do 21 I think the town hall would have been listened to.
Who is running this insane amount of damage control for VGL Co?
>>553230091Trolls
So that means we will keep the Triangle player for /4ccg/ for at least until the end of the year?
>>553229225@gork summarize the ccg melty
>>553229936I had a strong gut feeling that 21 would end up being chosen after the /akg/ melty, but I still hoped that there was some point to the Town Hall, or at least that the official excuse would be better than "we haven't had shit for dinner in a while so we're having it today".Disappointed but not surprised.I'll go first, please pin it on my jacket.
>>553229405I'm speaking as someone who is fine with either and didn't want the council to listen to the terminally online grifters who wanted us to be on the same PES version forever
>>553230239>/akg/ pesraped vglsad but true
>>553230151We are adding a town hall player too, that will always be on the bench no matter what
can you vgl lolcows get the fuck outta my gen? go complain at vglco directly instead of sucking dick in here
>>553230315this desu
>>553230348/4ccg/ is VGL property
>>553230315>be on the same PES version foreverThere's unironically nothing wrong with that.
>>553230315Who are you even talking about you retarded nigger, now it turns out that only people you don't like wanted 19.
This is a nothingburger. Wake me up when the council unilaterally moves us to 15.
>>553229936>invite managers to discuss what PES to use next>sike none of that mattered + you're a lolcow if you disagreed with usWhat can I say except gottem>>553230326Voiceless AND playtimeless...
>>553230696This, fuck you VGLco for stating that you're thinking about pre 17 cups, that's the actual dogshit announcement.
>>553230480>t.Solo PES merchant
>>553230786Just like they were thinking about PES19 LMAOOOOOOOOO
I see the raped lolcows are still trying to convince people that loudest=majority
>>553230786truke
>>553230786>>553230904Ok Bong
>>553230864You'll get your precious 19 next year you fucking baby
when's winter?who's in winter?
>8 hours left>still only 5 logos* posted to the gallery
You say it like the 21 defenders aren't permanently online raped lolcows: BoB (as himself) the most interested on using 21, triangle, Taba (some of these posts smell to the third world), both 2hug lolcows, cipher, aKWABtis and the lolcow of the year 'bellum
>>553230983Don't call me that raped fag.
>>553231039I can say the same about 21 lolYou could've done it in a way which didn't make the townhall look like a fucking joke but you did
>>553231071SoonNot yourteam
>>553231423Yet here you are being raped by Pre-fox
>>553231203Nobody is saying that, but the 21fags aren't the ones having a melty because their brand of dogshit wasn't chosen first. Is your consolewar riddled mind incapable of understanding the concept that there are people who are fine with either?
>>553231548Remember that the loudest 21fags had insane melties over getting raped by 19. So maybe next time 19fags need to bring up their losses in VGL26 idunno
>>553231705Unfortunately those teams aren't /akg/ so them losing doesn't matter
>>553228198You sure?
You say that people should have given better reasons to use 19 in the townhall, well maybe you should have asked for reasons to use 19 in the first place. Instead you offered it from the start as an option that we can assume you knew was worth using and people picked it against the other option (21), which has also few things going on for it other than "hasn't been used in a while". It just feels disingenuous to me now, you could have said from the start that 19 was overused so it wasn't happening this cycle.
>>553229657>sheHE, but otherwise true
>belka is on a run, he needs to get this to equalize, they've got 10 minutes left>gets into the box and... teleports away from the ball!>but pixy picks it up and starts running around in circles with the ball>lappland takes it away and long balls it... to zero sanity... who's tackled!>free kick... FREE GOAL! /akg/ ARE YOUR VGL26 CHAMPIONS!!
CHADknights General and ARYANso handcrafting VGL to their own needs and raped lolcows are SEETHING!
>>553232402Kino.
>>553232410trvke
>>553232396obsessed
>>553232410Give BoB and QD the credit they're due
Let's get this over withhttps://poal.me/7sxmwl
>>553232698>rigged poll*yawn*
>>553232698>two options for the same answer
Let's go /akg/!
>>553232262You could write an essay about PES 19 and it wouldn't get through Bob because he already had 21 in his mind before town hall and then he didn't find much support for 21 in there, but still pushed for it no matter what.Picking 21 without asking anyone from the start was probably a better idea, now the decision making process looks bad.
>>553233006this desuit's literally just about how it was handled, entire weeks of false hope
>>553233434I'm sure 80% of people walked away from it with the impression of which PES we were going to use. To me it was suspicious when kiyose told someone to not download 19 - yet - I was like "OK so we are doing 21".
>>553233617>I'm sure 80% of people walked away from it with the impression of which PES we were going to useSounds like you're projecting hard
>>553232402kek
>>553234554your gaslighting won't work here, normal people don't expect a whole group to be ignored after being assured that their opinion matters
>>553234554The last days of town hall there weren't further comments. One can assume a consensus was reached but you can think whatever you want.
>>553234708>>553234735Once again the vglcord lolcows think they were in the majority because they were the loudest
>>553234896retard
>>553234708Whole group? Half the managers didn't even give an opinion you retard.
>>553234708>you didn't do what i wanted so you ignored meis this how americans think?
>>553234735We stopped talking because everyone that cared to said what they thought on the topic. That kind of thing can go on forever if you let it without convincing anybody, kind of like what's happening in this thread. The expectation going into the town hall was give your opinion on which pes we should use so the people making the decision could see all sides.
We'll be tracking down and applying bans to the ones cowardly enough to complain "anonymously" on /4ccg/ instead of bringing up their problems to us in the first place. We know who you are. Stop hiding, last chance for you all. :)
>>553236335Do it faggot.
>>553236335I'm waiting.
>>553236335Least obvious falseflag
UTC3 IS LIV
Clearly the decision to move to 21 was made to keep /hdg/ from going back to qualies
reddit hours
>>553236335denko would say this if he weren't eating breakfast right now
Turns out psyoping yourself into thinking the only people who like 21 are specific namefags and acting raped when your wishful thinking is exposed wasn't a sound plan after all.
>>553235910It's eerie how similar this situation is to American local politics down to the screeching retards who thought a townhall was supposed to be a decision making body.
>>553237802Isn't that what is happening itt but for 19?
>>553237802>>553238083Sucking off Denko for no compensation
>>553238361Being a fucking baby on 4chan on a Friday night for no end result
>>553238361Raped lolcow tears are delicious
>>553238361Being a raped bitch for no compensation
>>553238658>>553238446>>553238432I must rush to defend my precious council!
VGL26 to be won by Arknights GeneralVGL27 to be won by Arknights:Endfield General
>>553239176Me on the right
>ai slopI'm nooticing
you know what i like about this game?both teams are red
Another day in the 'cord, another day that faggot lolcow posts about his non-team umprompted
my face when the /vg/ server is used for /vg/ stuff
>3-4-3 lost
>>552922287bump /zzz/, /1999/, /hdg/, and /xivg/ to "certified lolcow"
>>553241234Only if /akg/ joins them
>>553241234didn't gio retire
illyasviel von einzbern
>>553241530Gio is a performative little bitch
>>553241530No but he's refusing to participate in 21 and is letting his co handle everything.
>>553241667pussy
>>553241623oji-san destroyer
>>553241623...is my onahole
>>553241756but enough about Aoba
>>553241667I like how he thinks letting the actual good manager do everything is supposed to be some kind of protest.
should i test for winter or shit my pants today
lolcows? mmnyes
do fox pes always do this?
Fortunately for everyone, VGL26 will be the last time PES21 is used for anything VGL related. There's no way of saving that trash heap.
>>553244203TRVKEVGL27 will use PES20
what the actual fuck is a 'unity cup'?
>>553244952friendlies but with tournament structure, it's meant to test out rulesets or new pes
post 4cc memes
>>553246161sorry this is /vglg/
>>553246161
no matter what's gonna happen, the narrative with VGL's 21 will be the same as with 4CC's 15
>vtlshit>most boring match known to man>most boring match known to man>most boring match known to man>10 goal barn burnerthis is worse than it being just bad
>>553248332Uh there's only been 3 matches
>>553248332Watching the vtlel is not the gotcha you think it is
>>553248458to tell you the truth i fell asleep at like the middle of the 2nd game
>>553248332
>>553248651BASED SCHIZO
>>553248651>YOU ARE <lolcow#7>swing and a miss
>>553248651You are obsessed
>immediate response Got 'em
>>553248651Holy nerve struck
>>553248924>>553248849Raped VTL lolcows
>>553248849>3 people call me out on my schizo melty>HAHA ITS YOU YOU FAGGOT YOU'RE IMMEDIATELY DEFENDINGraped and robbed by a gypsy in 1992 jesus
Isn't funny how the guy who constantly boasts about he doesn't use this place is always here right away to defend himself?
>>553248332>>553248651OOF
>>553248962>>553249035O
What's really funny to me is that an organization that has absolute power VGLco has so much damage controlling done for them that they don't need
>>553246932The cup was more fun back then
>vtl>still making it about vgl lolcowsjust close the fucking server already
>>553249269Yeah we need /vg/ PL at this point
>>553249225TABA!
>>553248651>so mindfucked by 21 he is watching the vtlel to find things to cry aboutHoly fucking shit
>gio>VGL lolcowWe all know where he started.
>>553249269>IT'S HECKING DAMAGE CONTROLERINOYou are raped.
how many times will the schizo reply to himself?
>every vtlel game today has been more watchable so far than the last 3 VGL finalsKekypow!
>>553249502Denko literally said the VTL would be on watch to check whatever stupid bullshit triangle is cooking. So it does concern the VGL
>>553249682You tell us
>21 is bad.>YOU'RE A LOLCOW YOU'RE THIS GUY>Actually I am not that person. >W-WELL YOU'RE THIS OTHER LOLCOW LOL YOU ARE SILLY>Is your only counterargument calling me someone else? What's good about 21?>*head explodes*
>>553249675damage control squad sounds better than unironically supporting vglco after yesterday as someone allegedly unaligned
I have depicted you as the insanely unreasonable one and myself as the calm and handsome one
>>553249763Not that that applies to a lolcow who's claiming he won't be participating in the vgl on 21
>>553249894Unironically this.
>>553249925That guy manages the 50+ VGL teams? I didn't know.
>>553249894You are the 18000 posts in gookshit guyI am the 12 posts in aesthetics channel only guy
>>553249874Being unaligned or being fine with either would generally mean you okay with vglcos decision. Not sure what point you're trying to make.
We need another top 10 post count in gookshit.And a top 10 posts in general (during offseason)
This is looking like the time where 442/433 was banned and everyone said VGL would never recover
0 posts in gookshit and still a lolcow
>>553249848uh oh melty
>>553250224Just one more example of the council being stupid and making everything worse
What are we going to call gookshit once all the koreans go extinct?
lolcow league when?
>>553250514Nothing ever happens. You'll still be managing for the next 10 years.
>>553250532chinkshit
>>553250532Horseshit.
>>553250571VTL is on right now.
>>553250532Wombshit was a better name for it desu
>>553250583It's too bad there doesn't seem to be anyone in the council there to tell them when they're being stupid like this
>>553250904Gookshit wombline
PES bullshit aside there's so many VGL people idling this event and it's still floating ~60 viewers I can't imagine what it'd look like if it wasn't an 'official' display of vanilla 21
3-4-3 is 2 wins 2 losses so far today
>>553251342What were the opponents?
>there is a real chance Reso will be sent to die in Greenland before VGL26This is why they chose PES21
>>553251720442 3AMF, wide 442 for the winners4231 wide lostthe other match didn't feature a 343 afaik
>>553251720the losses were against 4-4-2s, the wins against a 4-3-3 and a 4-5-1
Vanilla 21 is 442 vs 343
is 352 any good on 21 or is it just a cope version of 343
>>553252465yes t. vtl manager
>>553251870Rip
>>553251870>Rugrats indoctrinated Beebs will kill Reso in the harsh winter of '26Grim.
>>553252684>cope of 343 in 21Always been
I had forgotten about the cup, sorry.>Still a week before the deadlineswhew, I have six more days to procrastinate on those 3 new players
That being said, can I get a qrd on the fantastic updates that happened since autumn?
>>553248651I checked a game and forgot the tab open since I was also playing SMTVI already accepted death since no amount of bitching will make VGL26 anything other than PES21
cup people that look like this?
>>553257692me :3
>>553257692the one whom youre gonna call a tranny
>>553257873Proof?
>>553257692no idea but subaru anal sex
>>553258038my dms
>>553257758hi haha ;))
>>553259454you wouldn't.... right?
>>553259943Why not?
>>553259943Why wouldn't I?
>>553260103>>553260567you wouldn't fuck an insect...
>>553260612...Or would you?
>>553260612Try me
>>553260612That's barely an insect nigga.
What gets off the ground first? 4chan Premiere League or /vg/ Super League?
Nothing since you won't bee,
>>553261636neither because not enough people to BEE
>>553261636any offshoot 4cc league is dead thanks to /admin/ falseflag efforts
>>553261636the breeding league
the reddit league
>>553263162but that's the vgl
>>553263162That's the r/4chan cup
>>553263162so /uma/ will get the invitational slot then?
>>553261636>/vg/ Super LeagueSo just gachabowl.
>>553261636/vt/ Libertadores
>>553261636/vtgrave/ League
Which teams are in the /vg/ conference league?
>>553266437/tnm/
>>553266829Grim.
The fact that /gfg/ and /trg/ will on average get to play the same amount of games per year shows that the VGL format is not made with viewers in mind
The fact that /gfg/ gets to play shows that the VGL format is not made with viewers in mind
/gfg/ bad
>>553267476/trg/ got to play more because they didn't lay down and die on week 3
Hat Pick: Year of the Horsecock
>>553198286>hiding the timestampCoward
>>553198286Is he going to die in Ukraine or Greenland?
>>553269420I didn't think he was in a front line fodder position to begin with
>>553269420Ukraine (21)Greenland (19)
>>553269503Air force officer IIRC
>>553269868So he's going to triumphantly expel Russians from Ukraine
>>553270921So he should be fine then. It's the people who don't have important military careers (i.e. potential conscripts) who should be worried
>>553271173It was first played as a joke in ASS, so it's just people memeing around he won't die.
The jannetty of numbers
>>553267723Real
>>553270921I think he's air traffic control specifically so absolutely no shot
I like killing air traffic control people
danteeeh with the air to ground missile
i'm black
>>553274015Ok, JB
JB stands for Just Black
>>553274015Ok, Stroke
>>553272846didn't the US just bomb the shit out of airports recently
>>553274125justhereforbeingblack
>>553274015Hi Karth
>>553274015What's your opinion on zenless zone zero?
>>553274015Ok Crimson
>>553274015Ok JC Denton
>>553275223me too
Ok Steve
So am I the only one that noticed the town hall started with denko saying 19 was favoured? What changed?
>>553276127BigOlRapevictim has a bigger voice than the town hall
>>553276127Some Zaxby's chicken sandwiches appeared on his driveway with "Please choose PES21 :)" written on the bag.
shitposting aside did vglco give a reason why 21 over 19
>>553276127Raped lolcow going for another round of melties
>>553276694It hasn't been used for a while
Imitation crab tastes so good I don't care if it's fake.
>>553276694People in hall argued that there were things never tried in 21, neurons sparked, 21 is now being given it's potential last run before being taken out back. Literally thats it.
>>553277338Real 3-4-3 has never been tried
Cancel the FIFA World Cup in America.
>>553277338>BoB coping about all the ways you can build a 343
>>553276127The people who wanted 21 made better arguments than the people who wanted 19, who largely seemed to argue against 21 rather than *for* 19. If the decision was made immediately after the town hall 21 would've been chosen. If the decision was made after the feedback form polls 21 would've been chosen (here those two are btw >>553224921). The only people who actually made a good argument for 19 were in VGLco which is why it took days to make a decision, ultimately still settling on 21 for the reasons that have been stated.
>>553276694They didn't want to write it off as completely unusable seeing as how we only have a couple of pes versions now with Konami being the way it is.
>>553277997>Opinion presented as fact.
