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Billions Must Undie Edition
>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/12-29-2025-update.95233/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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>>553242993
update when, im starving
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>>553242993
my future chuddette wife
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Deadlock more like dead dead lock
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>>553242993
Tim Caine Doviculus/Razor voiced Demon character when?
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>>553243072
Posting for Paige slander
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You HAVE finished the holiday challenge, haven't you anons?

I went from Phantom IV to Archon 6, absolutely miserable experience that I fully regret.
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>>553243280
it really was a holliday challenge
having to jump to hit your one skill is retarded
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Pull.
Back.
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>>553243727
Oof, I think I did her in one shot, but I played her a bunch when she came out. Shiv took me 9 games because it kept throwing me in ritualist lobbies expecting me to carry.
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PATCHU DOKO YOSHI?
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>>553242993
patch today
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>>553244025
doko
okod
dokod
dokod
dookood
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i love stamina mastery and maxing 2 first on mina
i am however hardstuck low emissary ritualist 6
how do i get better at her?
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>>553244416
not int your team by building like shit
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>>553244518
i get extra stam after 4.8 spike with imp spirit qsr sap
then upgrade to mastery if there's no bullshit that requires debuff remover immediately
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>>553244757
id rather rush something that nets you more hp like fortify because you seem like you keep dying, or maybe debuff remover when you got enemies that rely on that stuff
stam mastery is more of a midgame item
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>Deer dayary, god arrezdid again. grabed a cops gun atta bar asa dare. wicked funny wait lemme go bak. i sawa sign outsida bar dat said "pretty ladiez drink free!" but dey kiked me ow when i didunt pay so i wen toa diffren bar. anyways 2 cops warkin so i hid in the jon. (cuz teres a "warrnt 4 ma arrez"). but den i thought "dats wut a guil gillty gal wood do". so i wen to da mirror n dared maself 2 grab da cops gun. so i wen to the bar n stol a drink furst. anyway dey wer all like "omg shes gotta gun" "put ur hands up" "omg iz that vyper da famous actress shes s cool!". like in dose magik shows were da guy eatz da sword n stuff like wow i thot "magik time" n put da gun in ma mouth but i giss da cops don like magik cuz dey rly freeked out. anyway im writng dis in jail cuz dere waitng 4 da gun 2 pass threw n dat i ass ulted an officer. used ma phoncall 2 order a peteza sins ma loyer told me 2 neva call agin so yeah this is V bye <3
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>>553245683
You did a terrible job
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>>553245138
fortitude kinda feels useless since the health regen is not very good when i can rake a t1 and get over half my health back
yeah debuff remover is super good and i get it fast when my lane enemies buy slow hex or there's a Chinese Haze on the enemy team
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no excuses, show yours
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>>553246093
its also about hp total as youre squishy as fuck
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EMPLOYEES ARENT EVEN BACK YET UNTIL NEXT WEEK

THEY ARE STILL HEAVILY ALTERING HERO KITS AS WE SPEAK

THIS SHIT AINT COMING ANYTIME SOON PLEASE STOP ASKING
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>>553246196
So what? March?
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>>553246196
>EMPLOYEES ARENT EVEN BACK YET UNTIL NEXT WEEK
You said this last week!
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>>553246196
source?
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>>553246134
Kinda feel like I didn't give myself much to look forward to from here.
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reliable source tells me that the update will happen eventually
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>>553246371
yeah this shit ain't dropping til like late feb lmao
wtf was yoshi smoking saying it could drop in december
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>>553246371
>another three weeks of paige/viktor supremacy
i cant
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I want someone to confirm that rem is fake
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>>553246371
>>553246608
They fucking dropped Victor the way he was

Its a fucking playtest
Who cares
Let the community suffer for shits and giggles
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>>553245683
You did a great job
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>>553246737
they clearly don't view our playtest as a playtest anymore.
i mean the only meaningful change for us to playtest in the past 5 months has been the shrines + patron defence shit (and that's pretty small in the grand scheme of things)
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>>553247128
>>553246737

its because leakers keep hyping shit up
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>>553246371
>Pepper will be more like Billy
That sounds bad.
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>>553247293
Sounds like its just a recolor

Billy looked a bit different
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>>553247128
And they're right. Bitches here whine about evry change that isn't a nerf of a character they currently hate.
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I don't get how people make gun Ivy work. Does matter what I build it always feels like I'm doing no damage.
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When doorman came out I was hoping I could rescue beam someone from a portal and when I couldn't do that or death slam yoink people from them I lost all interest
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>>553247732
i wish you could put doors on the floor / ceilings
i wanna deathslam someone through like 40 portals at mach 12
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>>553247556
use your 4 stam and chudzu to farm faster than the enemy haze
and invade jungle and threaten walker with your flight as one of the best escapes in the game
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>>553246726
Her ult was fake, best i can do
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>>553246371
I will trust Yoshit's word over some rando, so if the update was almost ready for Dec it will definitely be for Feb. SIMPLE AS
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Oh fucking great.
We're experiencing the god damn holiday regret phase. Where Valve does a ton of dumb shit, goes on vacation, comes back to work with fresh heads and wonders why the fuck they did that.

Thankfully it seems like it's just hero rebalancing which they can tend to be fast and loose on.
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>>553247556
gun ivy despite being a gun build doesn't actually do a lot of damage to players
more of a farm slurper and obj. destroyer
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less furshit and more agents that work for occult glowie agencies that need to win the ritual for their own selfish reasons
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>>553246371
this nigga has literally never been right
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Come up with aghs upgrades/shards

>mcginnis
>turrets can be placed on ceilings and walls
>doorman
>can place portals on ceilings and floors, can use targeted abilities like curse and rescue beam through portals
>Mo and Krill
>Krill magdumps on the combo target
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>>553248237
Equal amounts of straight furkino and glowies please.
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Jesus fuck just give Rem lower resistances like Pocket.

How is this a problem
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>>553248197

its over lmao
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>>553248391
>can use targeted abilities like curse and rescue beam through portals
this is impossible due to how portals work
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>>553248647
Then just make it possible, stupid ass
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>>553248441
glowie furries when
that is to say
straight up add a protogen to the game and never acknowledge it as extremely out of place
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>the shitcord is already in full doomer mode
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can someone in the official discord go annoy yoshi to give us an estimate? he said they'll be able to give a more clear date after the first week of the month and we are already a week and 2 days in
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>>553242993
bilions must (pull down graves') undie(s)
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>skeletonshieldbash.gif
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>Played a bunch of Doorman when I got into the game
>This was when I was still in Initiate
>Haven't touched him in probably 200 hours
>Now whenever I try and play him I get thrown into matches against people clearly double my skill level
>Gunman doesn't even play the same way as when I only played him
Guess I'll simply never try Doorman out again
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>>553246371
>going to make celeste less colorful
I was really looking forward to this character too for the clowny aesthetic, what a shame
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Why is HOLLOW POINTS NOT CALLED HALLOW POINTS
IT'D BE THE PERFECT PUN
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>>553249264
Because its not holy
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>>553246371
first of all, >minesweeper
second of all, new pepper model leaks when, i wanna see what theyve done to her
third of all, maybe we can bully valve to give rem a proper OSIC uniform instead of the fucking pyjamas, seeing how they still dont consider his design set in stone
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>>553249164
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Why do they entertain the "playtest" facade if they only drop things when they're superduper finished now?

Why don't they just drop the heroes who are ready then? Does it have to be a big "SIX HERO UPDATE!!!" all at once?
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>>553246371

AT LEAST LEAK SILVER YOU FUCKING KEK
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>>553246371
Do they actually have good players in those playtest or are they all right wing ritualists
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>>553249550
the current playerbase have all tricked themselves that this is a super serious game, they'd hate playing a game with variable content
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>>553249808

Uhhh we know that Deathy is in the playtest kek
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do you think the community is more or less delusional rn than post shop/pre 6 hero
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You should be able to use Cultist Sacrifice on any enemy hero who has less that 50% of your total souls.
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>>553248701
>glowie furries
More likely than you think.
t. Glowie
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>>553249924
He said "good".
Deathy is trash.
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>>553246371
>Unbalanced Characters? In a closed playtest? Oy vey this is annudah shoah. Patch needs to be delayed 6 more months
FUCK OFF
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>>553250004
Why limit it to enemies?
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Why are we getting the news from fucking literal who leakers? Didn't Yoshi say they wanted to be transparent on this? He told us when they didn't make the december goal and said it would be january. If it's delayed again then he should say as much. Doesn't take much for him to go "yeah we're reworking some things don't hold your breath for this month"
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>>553250489
I guarantee you leakcucks are doing this to get people riled up and force yoshi to speak
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>>553250489
he literally said they will have an estimate after all the employees come back and they work on it a little more (hasnt happened yet)
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They have this giant playtest with thousands of players they could use to gather feedback but no they need to do it in an even smaller playtest because???????
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>>553248208
Any time there's a gun Ivy she shreds me. Occam's Razor suggests that they're hitting all headshots all the time, but that can't be true.
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This is why Valve doesn't communicate. Because they don't have strict deadlines set by investors so they can take their time before they release a huge update. Yoshi and his trooncord were a mistake and Valve should have shut it down immediately.
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>>553250489
because they still want to release in January and updating the community on every change will only waste more time
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>>553251316
You aren't as qualified to give feedback compared to random homeless people they picked up off the streets in Portland please understand.
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>>553251336
Are you getting hit by her ult?
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>>553251476
well yeah, you have people that are playing the game and reporting the bugs and other side of homeless people from Portland that just whine every time new female character is revealed to be god forbid a hottie. if i was dev, i'd also make new server for actual proper feedback
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>>553251316
Because they learned from the past year of open development, unlike you.
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>>553251316
I've said it before but the hordes of Russians and other third worlders unironically made the feedback unusable. They spammed the forums with garbage like asking to be unbanned after cheating, asking for Russian localisation, spamming Yoshi's profile with threats and russian memes, complaining about being put in Russian servers

You can only imagine the crap they posted on the private channels
>hero they play recieves tiny nerf
>"BLYAT HAZE NOW UNPLAYABLE KYS DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM BEBOP KILL ME IN LANE WHEN I HAZE THIS GAME WILL FAIL DIE DIE DIE"
Russians are also really stupid and hate change which is why they're the main users of stuff like "old icons" mod and "day time skybox" mod, so they probably complained about every single change no matter what.

And since there's so many of them it just drowns out all the other feedback posts. Imagine being a dev and 80% of the feedback has become ESL babble by retarded Russians, it'd be worthless
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They are NOT holding off the release because of balance, Jesus Christ. How can anyone even believe such retardation?
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remodeling pepper from troon colors to actually fitting the noir aesthetic is worth a month+ delay. Is there not plenty of reference material for 50's americana circus uniforms?
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>>553252258
erm her name is celeste now. Please do not deadname her.
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>>553251710
No
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>>553252150
That was literally the reason we didn't get senator 5 months ago
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>>553252371
pepper is still her stripper name
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>>553252150
Stop coping.
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just how small is rem supposed to be?
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>>553253007
size of sinclair bunny
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>>553251316
is this thread not enough for you to answer your question? you guys have a melty every time yoshi does something not they way you would love to
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>>553252150
day9 fat but not bald... better?
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>>553253372
We aren't the official feedback forum we have no standards to uphold.
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if they truly fucking delay this update and are actually doing hero redesigns this late its over!!!!!!!!! nigga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>553248391
>>Krill magdumps on the combo target
will be happy to play gun mo
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>>553254243
Or they can just hold back the hero that needs extra time and release the ones that are ready? Its not like they NEED to release a batch of 6 at the same time.
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>>553254496
rem is arguably the most anticipated of the bunch, apparently people are struggling both to play fencer and to play against him, they apparently are reworking the visuals for pepper... idk i dont think they will cut 3 out of the six. hope the leakers are lying, or valve has a more finished build they just havent pushed yet.
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>>553243727
I was really struggling with her until I saw someone here say the air jump barrel punch combo, and then I got her in first try (though she still feels useless to play because I had the lowest damage on my team and there was also a hypercarry seven on my team who got fed by a thrower 0/23/4 vyper)
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>>553254842
>struggling both to play fencer and to play against him,
Good we need high skill heroes.
90% of the cast is nearly turn off your brain tier. They're not my kind of heroes but they should exist.
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>Made up a problem and get angry over it
Can you guys chill out? You're a week or two too early to panic. There was basically no chance that they would release anything over the holidays considering that they were on break. At best we'll get it by the middle of the month, but realistically closer to the end.
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when pache?
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>developer delays an update to make it better
>it makes them bad guys
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>>553254926
yeah but thats only in lane
after that this combo is nice but landing it is a pain bec the map is kinda bad for it and you clip here and there which kills your momentum
shes alright in lane, but i feel like this character is meant to be played in a coordinated team which you dont have in pubs (i only play solo)
your ult does no damage and is kinda hard to land if youre going for picks, which seems like the intention
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>>553256528
I think we were expecting this update in like November
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release the fuckin update so i can play the game
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>>553256737
it's volvo
you're lucky if they release the update before summer
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>>553242993
Is Graves trans??
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
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yoshi is never ever giving us a patch eta again after this
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>>553257521
His fault for being so inaccurate in his december teaser release date.
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>>553256776
>18 minutes played
Why would you even be in the general if you haven't even played a single match?
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>>553249550
because "valve time" is this odd double edge sword they like dancing on until they slip and it slices their ankles off, even though I hate it at times Valve is one of the few AAA studios that have nerds working there instead of 3000 slaves.
I'd rather have this façade if it means the game will be quality at the end, although I wish they'd retool some of the older characters, Abrams feels like playing a worse Billy (why the fuck does this cunt get FREE jungles) and Sinclair having this odd ass ancient model standing next to Drifter or Doorman always throws me off, he doesnt even have any decent skins
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>>553257823
ive been waiting for this specific patch retard
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would be funny if update drops next week and the leaker was completely wrong
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>>553257521
I dont know why the bastard even bothers considering how rabid the community is
>hmmm that dog foaming at the mouth could use a pat
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Is this the main audience of this game?
Grim
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>>553257952
Sure you were
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>>553257164
yea
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>>553254496
Yes because big patchs are what people want, not drip feeding. Drip feeding has proven time and te again to be a failing tactic
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>>553242993
wheres the update
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>test client already updated 4 times in the hour
They are finishing early for Friday or they are getting things prepared for an imminent update/Monday launch.
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>>553257952
You don't even know if you like the fucking game yet, you brownoid.
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>>553258075
Unfortunately yeah, I would prefer if people like you were removed but sadly thats out of my control.
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>>553257309
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>>553258075
I get it now shes called sliver because you can only see a sliver of her
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UPDATE FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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>>553258480
im an OG paragon backer nigga
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Can we get an honest to god wizard like straight up spellcaster for the love of god pleasepleaseplease
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>ground pound bebop ulting at his walker in the air when we're pushing
>didn't spot our carrying mcginnis sitting around the corner hiding last second
>bebop kills them and i die trying to escape
woops... still won with the highest assists somehow
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>>553259013
Sinclair is right there bro
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They better be replacing one of the patrons with Sean Bean
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>>553259013
>dude what if generic wizard XD!!!
Most reddit shit parroted for this game ever
>AI slop image
Make sense, you're indian. Of course you'd be this tasteless
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>>553256528
we would not care if they had not hyped it since fucking november and expected it a month ago!!
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Cadence has a whole Leaked song, importance to the Ivy Visual Novel, has in-game posters for her band, and references in the news about her Winter shows being sold out (with potential extra tour dates to compensate!)

was she killed out back? any leaker info on her? or just the fatass in the helmet rig from when we had Venator & etc availible via commands
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>>553259159
>This is Venator's voice actor
Would it work?
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>>553259405
scrapped like fathom
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>>553259130
yea but sinclairs a stage magician walmart mannequin
>>553259223
lol, never said generic wizard but ok, just wizard themes
>ai slop
I can feel my skin browning...
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>>553259535
sure but anything solid? we could say that about every character that's being worked around with
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>>553259405
imagine she used her tail like a giant whip weapon that she had to throw her hips/ass around to use effectively...
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I wonder how much of the junk is game being unfinished and how much of they just aren't going to change. Surely they plan to add animations for stairs and dodging down, right?
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>>553259941
God I wish.
Also would be cool as a heavy Melee ngl, i'm hoping they lean into the support tank angle but also give her a pocket pistol lol

her and raven are the two heroes unreleased/unconfirmed i'm most interested in. Trapper's funny though
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>>553259405
>Cadence has a whole Leaked song
>Visual Novel
Honestly, I feel like the game is getting less soulful. Stuff like the VN felt so authentic when it came to delivering the game's identity, feels like it's been completely snuffed out now. I just listened to that Cadence song and it's kino but looks like Valve is more interested in a more polished and streamlined product right now.
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>>553259923
not a single scrap of info about cadence has been seen heard of or found since that VN leak (and they had to have been working on that back in what? late 2023?) and the song. The fat helmet was back in neon prime.

so ya, very good chance it was scrapped like fathom, might show up as a NPC in the story mode? my guess is back they they where still very gung-ho about adding in everyone from neon prime.
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pepper shouldnt exist
lame ass character
i dont want this gmae to be a parody
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>>553260285
working on comics before the game is fucking done is putting the cattle before the horse
it was useful early on to explore the setting but they shouldn't be prioritizing fluff before an open beta
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IT'S UP!
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>>553259013
Warden redesign will be this
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>>553260512
you really are not going to like when the skin monetization comes in
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>>553260285
o yea the songs super fucking kino, the VN stuff is always amazing too. Like, the Giest's one was delicious. Also, unfucked McGinnis, GOD I HATE HER NEW DIRECTION, at least give her a welding mask and body armor fucking hell

but yeah, I'm hoping we don't lose the soul in the longrun, growing pains are natural, dry seasons and the like
>>553260446
so dead silent for awhile, delightful... well, I'll take silence over tarnish. something something better to remember than see it ruined
>>553260708
kinda, not really though? it anchors the direction, and we weren't supposed to see it
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Trash game cancel it asap please
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>>553260742
honestly? kino as fuck yeah that's what i'm lookin for. Just needs a skin with a spooky ass wizard hat and I'm sold on Wizard character. luv me a wizard hat, and also beautiful art
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>>553260742
I hope they'll keep the policeman for some other character. I kinda love the ida of a dutiful servant of the law who doesn't care about Patrons or cults or magic or any of this shit and simply wants to upholds the law. Make him completely ignorant and indifferent to all this shit.
>"the what now? the ritual? lady, I'm not into theater, just don't violate the law"
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>>553261538
bros wish is for the Patrons to follow international law and ethics, singlehandedly the best character to get his Wish
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minesweeper said the dev who designed pepper wont be in until monday for updating her. how could he possibly know this? his source is a playtester, do they tell them exactly when specific devs are back in house? makes me think he's dropping bullshit.
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I'm going to sleep. If there is no patch when I wake up then I'll take matters into my own hands...
Some of you guys are alright, don't go to the deadlock forums in 8 hours
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>>553262263
minesweeper is some twitter cuck lmao, he's clout chasing at this point and will put on the joker mask and claim it was all apart of his plan like he's light yagami (he's not). twitter is full of them
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>>553257963
>next week and the leaker was completely wrong
Wait patch today?
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>>553262263
He constantly spouts nonsense, I wish people stopped giving him attention.
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>>553262520
never been wrong
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>>553262654
I'd bet hard USD that the deadlock update incoming won't conform to his "leaks"
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>>553262654
nigga it's like a 50/50 on whether he's right or not half the shit he says is bs
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>>553262263
he actually said quinn's designer but point still stands how would he know them individually based off dev design
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>>553262950
we know who hotpoo worked on, makes sense others would be known
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>>553258075
why does the fencer image use the Combo icon from like six months ago
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>>553262496
always will be, brother
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>>553260742
I dont really care what his redesign would look like as long as he has his jarring high pitched squeals as a death noise id be happy.
honestly that shit throws me off everytime, could be doing anything from the most mind numbing lane clearing to a 6v6 and that noise still stops me dead in my tracks
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>Reach Ritualist
>Lose game
>Rank down
>Win game
>Rank up
>Repeat
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>>553263709
You've found your equilibrium, you uave found your artual skill rating.
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>>553263709
you've reached your skill ceiling, well done
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>>553261538
The game needs a NYPD representative character
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bro i was in the middle of drawing pepper hentai and now she's getting redesigned??? now i gotta wait for the patch FUCK i dont wanna draw while the patch is out
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>>553262654
what? bro said the patch was going to drop very soon like 3 times last month. not to mention other shit
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>>553264048
Minesweeper is a LYING FUCK, draw your goddamn hentai!
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I don't believe that the update is being delayed because of the redesign. The game is full of outdated and draft designs.
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A poker night at the inventory with these characters would be so fun. A full hideout game you can run with bots or friends. DO IT VALVE
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>>553264296
These games were not made by Valve, which is why they exist at all.
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>>553264221
true, they changed drifters model days after he came out. Though changing characters ultimate ability seems delay worthy
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>>553263709
missing link; The Player

what should we name this new rank?
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>>553261724
venator's wish should be to convert his patron to christianity and incorporate him into the church for the betterment of humanity
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>>553264506
lmao that'd be actually peak, mandate of heaven
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>>553264438
Nah
They do this in Dota all the time. None of this sounds like a compelling reason to delay the update
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>>553263229
"use"
nigga thats just a player mo aiming at him
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>>553260934
It does seem like they're less concerned with it being a period piece like they were at the start: moving away from the intial 20s aesthetic to a more modern 40s look. A lot of the intial heroes and some of the herolab ones went for a more historical design. Almost all of the new ones are pretty universal if not slightly modern (except doorman).

The song really reminded me of this band.
https://youtu.be/Z2WhdZHXizw?si=RyyHGkWiYDCFRfDk
>>553260708
I get what you mean, I don't think they should do full VN stuff obviously while they're still figuring out the characters and stuff but I stand by my point that there's been a slight sterilisation of priorities.

To counter myself however, the hideout is MAX soul and an amazing addition (don't like the new PC they added though)
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>>553264686
sorry, by "delay" i mean their release estimate is maybe late january as opposed to next week like some people seem to think. They dont actually have a release date to delay to be fair.
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>>553263709
I actually have the EXACT same problem, but with more swings.
I'll make it as high as Ritualist 3, and as low as Arcanist 4 in a given week.
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>>553264801
They're definately pushing towards a fusion, give the impression of the earlier 20th century rather than anything else. Like, the Hideout grafitti looks cool, but it's not time period.

imho, if they don't go off the deep end it should be fine. keyword should. Mina and Drifter fit well, Victor's overalls hanging like Punk pants hangers is a neat touch. Paige and Billy bring it out there, for real, even if Paige is subtle; Paige definitely is supposed to be a Velma-type

also, good song Anon ty
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>>553264048
nigga all you have is a portrait that isnt even verified to be real. You can't draw fan art of something that doesn't exist. You have been drawing your own headcannon the whole time
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>>553263709
For me its
>Win game
>Win game
>Don't rank up
>Lose game (Rank down)
>Win game
>Win game (Back to the beginning)
My friend who I duo with will insta rank up from a single win while it would take me 3 wins. I don't get it.
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>>553265232
we had a drawing of the entire design
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>>553265380
>My friend who I duo with will insta rank up from a single win while it would take me 3 wins.
Im fairly certain theres some performance based gains happening in the background. Also you rank up more if the lobby is higher ranked than you. If you stomp people way below your rank you get nothing when you win.
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>>553265380
It's a number of matches thing.
You take more and more matches to rank up the more matches you havd played.
This system does not apply to losses.
A recent example from my own last 15 match history:
Match 1: won rank Ritualist 1.
Match 2: won rank Ritualist 1.
Match 3: won rank Ritualist 1.
Match 4: won rank Ritualist 2.
Match 5: lost rank Ritualist 1.
Match 6: won rank Ritualist 1.
Match 7: won rank Ritualist 1.
Match 8: lost rank Arcanist 6.
Match 9: lost rank Arcanist 5.
Match 10: won rank Arcanist 5.
Match 11: won rank Arcanist 5.
Match 12: won rank Arcanist 5.
Match 13: won rank Arcanist 6.
Match 14: won rank Arcanist 6.
Match 14: lost rank Arcanist 5.
I have 632 matches played and a total 58% win rate.
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>>553266071
I should note that I made an alt account that is currently Phantom 1.
I play the same characters with the same builds.
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>>553265228
cadenSEX
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>>553267037
Its the same in cs and dota, ironically their "smurf detection" incentivizes people to create smurfs

This should be a reminder that elo as designed by arp elo is literally a mathematical proof and any changes make it worse at its primary goal, sorting players by skill level
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>>553267787
24135678i9ozdv hvn,sfyhm
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>>553267667
ourple pussy...
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>>553267787
What came out on 05/13/2024, it was probably a big patch or something
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>>553268576
Viscous or shiv methinks
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>>553268576
At least fix the year, stupid
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>>553268881
>2025
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UPDATE
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Supposed earlier-half of 1900's setting
>No Dick Tracy hero
>No Lil'Abner hero
>No Buster Keaton hero
>No Harry Houdini hero
>No The Shadow or The Phantom hero
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>>553268849
>>553269162
These tiny updates are the biggest cock tease ever, fuck you valve.
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>>553269192
>No Dick Tracy
We have an investigator
>No Harry Houdini
We have a Stage Magician

I'll give you the rest though
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>>553269192
All horrible ideas of a hollywood slop eating. Also Sinclair is basically houdini
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>>553269218
They do this with dota when a big patch is coming.
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>>553262654
he literally said the patch would be out in december you cock gobbler retard
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>>553269401
Is there any reason for it?
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>>553269401
They also do this when nothing happens
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>>553269401
>big patch
>a few extra heroes that all play the same because everyone has to have a gun
yawn, if they dont fix the snowball the game is still going to be unplayable unfun garbage
>10 minutes of laning completely decided by parries or other random bullshit
>then 15 minutes of farming choking the enemy out with your lead from random laning bullshit
>then you get boss at some point and 6v6 broool and the game is over
been like that for half a year or more just utter trash
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INHOUSE ON FOUR LANE FUCKING MAP WHEN?
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>>553269685
Preloading assets so you don't have to download 20gb when the patch goes live.
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>>553269192
People really misunderstand Deadlock setting. It's not "20th century but with magic" like Bethesda does with its Fallout, it's literally an alternate history, past 40s, world wars never happened, and there are literally magical PCs
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was this always a slope so doorman cant place doors here?
the other side is normal
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>>553269859
lol you seethe so often about parries its so obvious you're a total and complete shitter
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>>553270000
Reported to the ADL for antisemitism
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>>553270162
I am quite sure that it was like that even on the old map.
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>>553270212
I dont care about parries I care that their parry system prevents the existence of interesting char kit design
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>>553270000
It references 20th century events in the news paper lore stuff
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>>553270162
>was this always a slope
Yes. The REAL question is whether it's an intentional Doorman nerf or just an oversight.
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whens the january patch coming out?
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>>553270521
Jan 32rdteenth
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>>553269623
no, he said if it wasn't that specific week it was 100% delayed to january, which it was.
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>>553270698
wow if it isnt before they go on break for christmas it's after they return from christmas truly incredible foresight
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>>553262263
>>553262950
the individual devs used to talk prior to the nda lift when the community was a lot more tightly knit and actually treated the game as a playtest, so makes sense if they were more talkative again behind closed doors
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>>553270521
tomorrow, brother. always tomorrow
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>>553270491
why would they nerf only one side of the map then, doesnt really make sense to me
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>>553270798
I think that's definitely a possibility, but surely they aren't leaving a 'OUT TILL JAN 10TH' note on their profile/page. I think this dude has bits of info or maybe gets told one thing then tries to fill in gaps elsewhere.
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>>553270796
yeah obviously it was just to placate the retards, still wasnt wrong
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I'll be disappointed if there's no patch near the end of January, solely because I think it'd funny for a Deadlock patch to kill a new live service hero shooter.
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>named venator after an eceleb
to think that one small change made my interest in the character go from 100 to 0
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>>553271237
>deadlock
>killing anything other than itself
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>>553271224
>blue checkmark
everytime.. gettings cents on the dollar for every post he goes 'GUYS HERES WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY DOING AND WHY ITS TAKING SO LONG... TRUST ME!!'
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>>553271243
Quinn sounds like what a fruity gay man would be named as
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>>553271783
Well he is priest
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>>553265228
billy's definitely too modern not to stand out from the rest of the cast, but with just a few tweaks the entire concept and theming could be salvaged. pic rel, i wrote a lenghty concept for it once

>>553269192
houdini is already refered to in the game by one of the news headlines at the New York Oracle
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>>553271783
>Father Quinn
It makes sense that it's a surname. Dunno why they don't want to do two name characters now if The Doorman exists
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>>553271927
just stick with Venator as the title used for in-game purposes (hero name/callouts/etc.) and keep the quinn thing as just his surname in the bio
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Venator was an S tier name
Cain was a B tier name
Quinn is a D tier name
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>>553271243
Makes me not even want to play the game honestly, that dude is so unlikeable
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>>553271927
Valve needs to bite the bullet and bring back THE MAGNIFICENT SINCLAIR
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should have named him Gabriel after the 2004 van hellsing movie
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>>553272302
Priest was SSS+
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>Rem ult too strong changed
>New Rem ult even stronger
>Playtesters crying about Rem's size

This little nigga is getting scrapped.
>B-B-BUT THEY CAN'T TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW AND ARE EXCITED FOR HIM!!!
They threw the entire batch of experimental heroes into the trash can, the biggest example being Slork who people worshipped. Wouldn't be surprised if they just scrap him and delay the update for mid february to get a whole other sixth hero ready.
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>>553265157
This is the exact reason Yoshi wanted to do a weekly update for people's ranks, people tend to crash out when meaningless nimbers drops and honestly his idea would be a great way to counter it. I hope he implements it still.
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>>553272302
Swap Cain and Venator
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>>553272635
fuck should've just called him Hellsing and gave him an Austrian accent
>>553272791
God I hope they scrap REM. Absolute meme and killer of aesthetic
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>>553271874
speaking as an Altfag, this would actually be a great idea (the pic related), because the DIY aspect is the ACTUAL CORE of being punk, which modern punks just forget about because consumerism. Likewise, Satanism was used (and still is used) as a talking head against the status quo without actual belief, so blurring the line there would be interesting since Billy is a poseur slacktivist

also bomber jackets are my favorite
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>>553272302
Forgot Roark which is somewhere around B/C tier
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>>553272848
The problem is that the game isnt fun so if they remove MMR grind people just dont play it. That's the sad reality of mobas and it's why league of legends doesnt use real MMR they give people fake "league points" to get them to feel like they're making progress but the real mmr is hidden
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>>553272791
just make rem a 1:1 port of deckard cain from hots with his ult that puts people to sleep if they're hit

then take more characters like probius and leoric
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>>553272791
I really hope rem gets removed because he doesn't fit the aesthetic whatsoever and Reddit loves him because he's a le wholesome mascot character
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>>553273048
I want them to add Medivac from Hots. Or at least something like cart from Dota.
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Viscous was about to be a fat tourist dressed like a spongebob character and you fags are bitching about the game's aesthetic
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>>553273391
that would have been based though
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>>553273391
Yeah our bitches saved viscous from being ruined
Now we must all collectively complain about the name Quinn (and hopefully for Rem to be removed but I guess I'm in the minority)
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I was excited for Cain because I've always loved the idea of Cain being actually some immortal scarred man who was doomed to walk the earth until rapture (I think in the bible he just dies by having a roof fall on him or some shit).
I was hoping that was the direction they were going for but it seems he's just gonna be a random religious assassin.
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>aesthetic
>In Valve multiplayer game with skins
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>>553273391
it would've only been good if they gave viscous a thick dumpy and gave them massive titties and female
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>>553273520
>and hopefully for Rem to be removed but I guess I'm in the minority
Yeah it's pretty funny how in these threads Rem is practically universally hated meanwhile on the discord and reddit he's by far the most anticipated new character
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>>553273391
keyword
>was about to be
us bitching about it changed fate
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>>553273391
Viscous is different from REM in several ways AND he's also a placeholder model right now so we can't really have a conclusion
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>>553272791
>This little nigga is getting scrapped.
I fucking hope. Make a him a meme npc at your base, maybe a summon similar to Necronomicon in dota.
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>>553273934
>in these threads Rem is practically universally hated
headcanon we love rem here, but for a different reason
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>>553273391
I want viscous to look like that because i'm also a fat person that dresses like a spongebob character
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>>553272791
they have no idea how to balance the game

imo they should rework the entire thing it's not working they are just throwing good money after bad it's a complete waste of development
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>>553272791
people only liked slork because he had a funny name, no one gave a shit about the others
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The majority of the people in the Discord are faggots like >>553273934 who don't even care how the characters play, they just want le heckin' epic wholesome smoll bird.
>>553258075
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>>553274229
I wanted trapper just so I could build around his traps since they had a duration of like 240 seconds.
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>>553273391
>funny design that reflects his lore
it was good, but it should be a cosmetic not his core design
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>>553274229
Raven was peak though sit down son
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>>553273391
Viscous if he was good
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>>553274362
>It was good
It was not. If he's so worried about the adversary he's not going to be wasting time playing dress up
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>>553273391
>was
still is
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I fucked Rem.
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>>553274457
>faggy ruski big boss
>cancer mouse control reduction and slenderman ult
no
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I miss item passives. I feel like there was so much more build variety because you could seek out certain passives in items you might not normally buy to make a unique build
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Up until hopping on Deadlock I was almost positive on leakers but now I understand how damaging they're for games.
>you come up with an idea
>you test it
>idea is shit and doesn't work on practice so you scrap it
>well, such is a nature of the gamedev, whatever
>oops, looks your ideas got leaked and now you made a bunch of people mad for not following on promises you didn't make
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Titty Monster Viscous >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gay tourist Viscous
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>>553274704
thats what we call good Soviet Empire engineering
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I don't believe they just abandoned Raven. He was literally one step away from being finished.
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>>553275091
His kit was genuinely boring aside from his ult which was still kinda mid
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>>553274794
It doesn't help that a lot of these leakers just outright lie for engagement, so people get mad about something not being added that didn't even exist in the first place
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>>553275158
They could just change his abilities. Just throwing away all the dialogue and models would be stupid.
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>>553275091
oh me neither I just hope they lean into the Spy aspects moreso, he's got a cool kit concept
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>>553243106
Every alt chick I've ever known has dated brown guys.

>>553272898
>killer of aesthetic
How is an owl monster familiar a killer of the occult noir aesthetic? He makes more sense in the setting than half the characters in the game right now.
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>>553275275
>TF 2 Spy 2.0
I like it, hope they reuse his idea/model eventually. The lore around this setting's russia was cool too.
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I heard from a friend who knows Yoshi that the patch might be delayed to february because of the new AI system integration.
They are adding an AI speech recognition feature that will automatically permaban anyone who speaks r*ssian in voice chat.
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>>553275091
he didnt even have a third ability and the other 3 were complete nonsense and unfun
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>>553275389
>lore around this setting's russia was cool too.
This
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>>553271243
CCnC is going to touch a kid or something then we'll have another McCree situation
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>>553275493
Let's just all say he did
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>>553274794
Jan 2025 should have been the reuniting of builds. Leak culture would've died, and the 6 hero update would have lost some of its magic but it still would have hit hard.
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>>553275389
NCS artist snakewomanliker has a kit idea I like, these four abilities + a Makarov pistol instead of an umbrella. Fucks hard imho
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people say i hit them behind walls
i get hit behind walls
fucking subtick man, i hate this garbage system
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They're going to have to make a super secret test build to keep from the secret test build leakers
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>>553275563
>>553275493
it worked against tobiwan we just need a woman or pretend woman to claim it
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>>553275370
>monster
Looks like a fucking plush you dishonest ninny. He looks silly, is in a silly outfit, holding a silly thing.

Be like if they added The Count and he attacks you with giant numbers and you said "erm how is a vampire not occult?"
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>>553275874
tober was an overrated caster and d2golems need to stop pretending that he was some kind of prodigy
the only canceled caster worse than him was grand
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>>553275370
>monster
hardly
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>>553276137
>Count attacks you with numbers
PEAK DESIGN
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>>553271243
Why would they name the tanky shotgun priest after him and not the smug annoying rapier dude?

>>553275441
Russians are the only people who play Valve's games.
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I think I finally got Sinclair. Spam bunnies, ults and always have the assistant in a safe place before engaging.
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>>553275485
all of these ideologies hate each other, russian nationalists are so schizo
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>>553276161
grandgrant was a slobbering retard and i have no idea why they thought they could take him from casting NA pubs/pugs/FPL to the real time, it was the worst thing you could possibly do to a alchy low iq mid western retard like grant. that being said, those early NA pug casts were legendary
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>>553275441
>>553276369
>game is saved and the playtest feedback becomes useable again
>private playtest is disbanded as a result and all the Russian leaktrannies an hero
KINO
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>>553274168
kill yourself
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>>553276436
Looks Based to me. Ideology is meaningless and Russia is proof of that.
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>>553276371
Precisely. Alao get Kevlar vest + cooldown reduction so you can spam ults every 20 seconds
Putting down an assistant, turning the enemy team into bunnies, stealing the rejuv, and escaping with assistant is also an amazing strat if the enemy team is doing midboss
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xyclopzz was the real legend of dota casting
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do you think they'll manage to push out the update by mid-february, or will it be a march update
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>>553276137
That's a good thing, people like cute characters. Even 4chan does. There's a reason 50% of Dota fanart is Hoodwink and /d2g/ is notorious for turning Pugna into a little girl. He's a familiar. Why would you want your familiar to be an ugly piece of shit? It's not like he's a pony or something, he just looks like a little, unassuming creature. They could've just made him a straight-up cat and you'd be complaining about that, too, except that'd be worse because it'd be boring. He also puts people to sleep so what do you want him to look like, a quasit?

>>553276523
At least the Russian leaktrannies don't say "yall" and compare every spell to LoL.
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>>553275370
cuck and a retard
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>>553276161
I didnt like him either but the fact he was cancelled over fake bullshit is still dumb. They didnt have to do that they could have just not hired him but they wanted to steal his spot
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>>553274362
it was horseshit even as an ultrarare meme skin
i think viscous' skins should make him appear more regal/official/as a diplomat, think regal sashes or deep sea vanities. he IS an emissary sent from the deep to strike a deal on the land

>>553274056
>>553273232
rem would be fine (familiars make plenty of sense in deadlock's world) if he wore a proper OSIC uniform instead of le sleepy leddit meme pyjamas
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just got kicked out of a game for a 192b update
epic
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>>553276843
nah it's the 19th lock it in
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>>553276843
Good chance its January. Looking back at the past updates it never takes more than 3 months between major updates. Last one was August so were already overdue. Update very soon.
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>>553272985
i was thinking of making a post on the forums suggesting this but i'd need to sketch a couple pics first + i have no clue hwo to actually make threads over there
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>>553276843
They can just postpone Rem like they did with Raven.
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>>553276991
>Everyone not privy to the sekrit club testing build has to endure attention whoring leakers and their inept interpretation of the game, while simultaneously comparing things to league of legends
I want this hell to end
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Ivy.
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>>553275239
Why retrofit abilities to an existing character when you can build a new kit that works and then create a character that fits with it?
Valve has infinite budget, they don't have to worry about saving money.
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>dota 2 gets everything
>we get nothing
dead game.
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You guys keep posting this guy's screenshots. Is he credible? Has he ever been right about something? What's the QRD?
>>553277156
>rem would be fine (familiars make plenty of sense in deadlock's world) if he wore a proper OSIC uniform instead of le sleepy leddit meme pyjamas
I agree with this as a REM hater. One of the biggest issue is the fact he's in jammies carrying a pillow. It's just stupid
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>>553277603
you get lol players wanting to make the game more like lol
isn't it wonderful?
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>>553277329
I can maybe try sketching smth up, unless you're an honest to god artist, its a good concept
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anybody got the funny mirage 240p video of him fighting and screaming "CONSUME THEM"... etc?
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>>553272791
Just make him bigger and more intimidating nightmare creature that turns small when he's sleeping.
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>>553277563
Contraints create better art
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>>553276137
I am neither defending nor attacking REM's aesthetic but I will say if you genuinely never expected a MOBA to have at least one dumb cute mascot character, you were living in a fucking dreamworld.
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>>553277923
I dont know his abilities yet but im imagining a Abathur type character that puts on his jammies, shrinks down and goes to sleep somewhere.
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>>553271874
>>553272985
Unironically just giving Billy a bomber jacket and a different undershirt would make a world of difference. He could keep his bat, SMG, stupid chains and zippers whatever and it'd be fine

It's the bright yellow graphic tee with the spike covered high collar jacket with the stupid buttons
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>>553278054
we already have like 3
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If you wanted to play a moba would you want to play one with guns or something with actually fun abilities?

If you wanted to play a shooter would you want to deal with the annoying abilities and items and farming?

What does deadlock even do that's good?
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>>553277563
It's a shame to throw away hard work.
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>>553277563
>Why retrofit abilities to an existing character when you can build a new kit that works and then create a character that fits with it?
You're not familiar with dota? They reworked old heroes so many times that I'm not even sure what's Riki's or PL's current ult.
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>>553278020
The art is already created; constraining a hero design to a kit that works well would create a better hero design.
Constraining ability design to existing hero art makes a worse kit.
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>>553274218
this. i am eternus btw so i can talk shit about the game because i know its not balanced at all
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>>553271365
>>553278178
The concern troll of /dlg/ unoriginality. These are TWO different posters.
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>>553278178
>What does deadlock even do that's good?
be fun and cool
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>>553278227
hero labs was put out with a giant disclaimer that everything inside was subject to getting deleted
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>>553278469
Wrong those are both me
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>>553278159
We literally don't.

>Whu buh Ivy Viscous uh uh Mo!?!?!

Those are not what I'm talking about and you fucking know it. They are, arguably, "cute" characters, but they are not mascot characters. They need to be tiny fucking happy ball-shaped things that don't actually want to hurt anyone but are somehow as dangerous as eldritch shadow monsters hopped up on the souls of their enemies.
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>>553278569
Yes, but Raven is too complete for that. He was literally more artistically complete than more than half of the current characters.
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>>553278673
Raven is literally Venator now
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So is silver a real character or was she just a fake. We got two vampires, a frankenstein, an upcoming ghost character but no fucking werewolves is a shame. I thought drifter might had been the canon werewolf character but obviously not.
>I want to knot that werewussy.
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>>553278157
A black bomber would also just have a holistic element, since they're wool-lined. and he's a goat. it'd fit

give him a shitty striped shirt too
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>>553278673
he's a guy in a plain white suit, it's a very basic design
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>>553277603
i have that broodmother set its really cool
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REM would look 100% less stupid if they made him look more Owl like
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>>553278725
fake
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>>553278725
real
there was code for shopkeeper voicelines for a werewolf hero added in the christmas update
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What's the counterplay to dealing with a fat retard like McGinnis as an honest character?
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>>553278965
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>>553278717
What the fuck are you smoking? The first Venator leaks appeared back when Raven was still in Labs.
>>553278812
With animations and voice acting. And it was more polished than some of the characters currently in the game.
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>>553278725
Drifter should have been a werewold with ultimate as a transformation similar to Lone Druid.
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>>553272791
Please Wodan, let that indeed be his fate
If we can't get kino monster of interdimensional war, they shan't get their funni chungus mascot
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>>553278725
I'll keep asking for Werewussy even if this one was fake. Dont give up bros
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>>553276843
Most likely looking at December desu
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>>553279086
tch my point is that they took Raven's face and made Venator. They look too similar for Raven to exist in his current form.
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>>553279086
He had the worst voice acting out of all the hero labs characters, wasn't even a russian VA.
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>>553278812
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>>553279314
they are literally just guys with beards
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are all these little updates an indicator?
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>>553279273
>>553279061
I guess its still possible assuming this image is real
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Just make Raven an ixian lol, hire me valve
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here is your team for the day
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>>553277806
all i can do is shitpostey meme drawings
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>>553279574
Ixians are an under represented minority at the moment desu. What is it like 2? Just infernus and Abrams? Valve must create more Ixians or Deadlock will not survive. *Rubs hands*
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Taking the piss with this lol
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>>553279519
I'M WORKING ON IT
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>>553279817
you're getting fencer too. but what we really need is a dummy thicc demon mommy ixian woman
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>>553279971
kek
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>>553279714
>average game when you are below phantom
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>>553280000
Cadenace or whatever
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>>553276436
schizophrenia is a core part of russian national identity, without it they'd just be ukrainians but with less toilets
also, mladorossy were an actual thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladorossy
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It is pretty fucking whack we have 3 male ixians in the roster now but 0 females.
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>REM
>Werewolf pussy
>Spy man
2026..... I am forgotten
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>>553280156
>ukrainians
>national identity
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>>553280175
Pepper or Celeste or whatever the fuck sounds like an Ixian.
>>553280000
YES
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>>553280223
>where did you get this photo of me? c'mon man!
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>>553277667
>is he credible
LMAO
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>>553280303
>>553279449
Who let this /pol/tard loose from his board
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>>553280223
experimental participant here. this is a gif of his second ability
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yam should look like this, enough with the silly damn hat! @yoshi
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is this guy baiting?
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>>553279971
>This does not even deserve a discord post because this is dead serious. The inside and outside screenshots of the play test a few days ago leakers on the internet GABEN AND ICEFROG ARE ANGRY AT ME, THEYRE BLAMING AT ME. IT'S MY FAULT. I ADMIT IT. IT'S MY FAULT. I WANT EVERY LEAK OF THE PRIVATE PLAY TEST OFF. THE. INTERNET!!!
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Make Yamato look like this (also make her naked)
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>>553279776
yea I could maybe do it, I can draw fairly alrightly

I just need to yk actually DO it, hardest part of drawing
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>>553279236
Do people wanna see me draw more? Also hi fellow skoney goblin!
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>>553279776
oh yeah and you drew a cute picture forgot to note
>>553280000
>>553280119
Cadence 100%
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>>553281038
>>553280759
aye thanks man, much appreciated, cheers
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>>553280404
my tardwrangler cant keep me contained forever
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>>553280261
im literally saying theyre the same thing, but ukros are less schizo/mentally and politically retarded
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>>553281038
>leaving your watermark on this horrendous elementary school colouring
jesus christ ivan...
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>>553281402
Modern Ukrainian national identity is completely different from Russian one. They are more butthurt Belts than Russians in this regard.
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>>553281257
np, should exist relatively soon. probably. maybe? yea
>>553281509
I cant post repeats lmao, scraped off the internet
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>suddenly a shit ton of artists are drawing smut of Ivy right now

where did that come from
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>no sewer crocodile rumrunner hero

fire hopoo
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>>553281647
Anon calling her a Sex Demon last board mustve had a point

or theyre all mentally deranged
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>>553272791
these problems can all easily be fixed without him getting scrapped? your suggestion makes no sense
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shiv's dumbass kit was promised to him 3000 years ago
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>>553281038
she's in the VN with a full song and she was one of the worked on early characters as a fat viking. They've had the design and concept in their pocket for a long time
I think they're struggling to turn that into something fun to play
or they're saving her for "launch" since she's hot and will get players back
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>>553281647
can you post your favorites?
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>>553281987
yea i posted about her early in the thread, I've cycled through literally every single passable Cadence art ive found officially the now

I doubt they're cutting her or Raven, moreso they're on the backburner yeah. I could see her being towards launch 100%
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>>553270212
>you seethe
I want to take whatever you're on that makes you think only one guy hates this game's melee and parry system
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I get the idea behind the simplified item pricing system since shooter tards are stupid, but I feel like some items like debuff remover need to cost more than 3200 but cost less than 6400, and also put like shadow weave in that in-between category
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>>553282565
Isn't the that point of components?
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>>553282565
They need to just rework the souls system entirely. It's bad how it affects abilities guns and hp all at once. Holy fuck you can have more damage and health and better abilities for no reason other than your retards fed you in lane. How do you beat a team that has such a collective lead where everything they have is better than you in every way? How does it make sense. it's completely and utterly retarded.
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>>553282832
components used to work like that but were changed to work the opposite way
items with components are easier to build instead of more difficult
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>>553283001
I do agree that there are certain items that need to be made a little cheaper. Shadow Weave is such a fun thing to build but you only get impact from it if you buy it early and if you do so and don't immediately start getting insta-picks it's griefing yourself.
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>"leakers"
>they wont leak shit
just stop, don't give them any attention
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debuff remover does way too much and everyone buys it
It should not give a flat heal and also removes target abilities like sticky bomb or static charge
>b-b-b-but these abilities will be OP then
there are countless other counters. They don’t even apply debuffs when placed
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Where da hoes at
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>>553282908
You're complaining about moba mechanics in a moba, just play a conventional hero shooter then.

>>553284932
t. bebop player
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Bebop bomb probably isn't even in my top 3 reason to get debuff remover.
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>>553285268
I play OW2 and marvel rivals. I would play dota 2 still but for some reason it's 60% peruvians on north america and they're unbearably annoying. League of legends is trash because of how scaling makes you unkillable, just like deadlock.
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>>553280267
Do we know anything about the new characters kits? the only think I know about REM is hes a sleepy guy.
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>>553285698
>he thinks rem is releasing
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>>553249550
Because Valve accidentally struck gold with the hero voting system doing insane engagement numbers online. They can't just drop one hero anymore, they have to drop multiple polished toons at once.
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>>553277073
Not an argument.

>>553277603
Deadlock got more updates last year than Dota 2 did and there's no point adding cosmetics to an alpha.
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>Geist when people call her a monster
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What about infernus when people call him a nigger
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>>553284932
>countless other counters
Like
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>>553286282
>toons
stfu nigger
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>>553285698
From what I recall:

>Venator - All abilities scale off Weapon Damage rather than spirit. His default gun is a submachine gun. He has a shotgun he fires for one ability, which does knockback and can stun if they impact the environment. He has a fire grenade (holy water?) for another ability, and a rooting bear trap (basically old Talon trap). His ult is a giant crossbow that he fires several bolts with.
>Fencer - Still pretty in the dark. He's described as being a very fast hero, so presumably one of his abilities is mobility based. The only one we have confirmed is a sort of universal parry, though details are scarce how good it is compared to something like Counterspell. He doesn't have a gun but his M1 is apparently still ranged, even though it's attacks with his sword.
>REM - Smallest model in the game. Has an ability to latch onto another hero to travel with them and grant a defensive barrier, and will fall off when the barrier lapses or is destroyed. There was some murmurs about him having an ability to steal buffs from other characters, and his ult is a delayed AoE sleep effect. Supposedly the ult proved to be rather broken in recent testing and may cause the patch to be delayed a bit or REM to be held back from the next batch of heroes
>Graves - M1 is a magic beam from the severed hands he carries as weapons. She has a spirit wall that roots players who pass through it for an ability, and her ult is a tombstone she drops down which continually spawns ghouls that explode on contact. The tombstone can be destroyed before the ult duration expires. She was supposed to have had individual ghoul summons as another ability but that seems to have been scrapped.
>Silver - Werewolf hero? Supposedly has a kick attack for one ability that can knockback and stun, a bola she throws (and does ???), and a shotgun blast too. Her ult is a form change which alters her abilities and may turn her into a true melee only hero.
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>>553287671
Forgot:

>Pepper - We don't know much, she's supposedly an aerial focused hero. There were some early claims she had a rocket jump ability, but we haven't heard anything about that since.
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>>553280820
>Do people wanna see me draw more?
Draw McGinnis as evil-looking as possible.
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Yoshit should just hang all the leaker already
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how will this george foid drama impact the update...?
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we love every board being pol
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>>553289836
Billy already encompasses every retarded rioter
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>>553285268
I don’t even play bebop at all
>>553287479
spellbreaker, counterspell, eshift, divine barrier, iframe abilities
all shorter cds than debuff remover btw
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>lash/dynamo get 3 with their ult
>gg no re
PLEASE JUST LET ME BAN THESE MFS
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>>553258075
""people"" like this don't even play the game
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>>553243876
https://files.catbox.moe/m2j4bw.mp3
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>>553290571
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>>553290210
>6.4k item, doesn't actually remove debuffs
>Actual alternative but requires game sense and good reactions, still doesnt remove the debuff after application
>6.4k item
>6.4k item
>not every hero has i-frame abilities
you just have to learn to play around the fact that people will cleanse your point and click ability
it's like how people buy metal skin against a haze
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>>553258075
Lmao this is the big update that's going to save the game? This looks worse than fucking Highguard's design
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>>553291347
Bro look at Highguard again.
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>>553291283
>can hard counter bebops entire bomb build consisting of multiple items with one single item
>retard is mad that it it's a tier 4
poopsock rankers are so annoying
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>>553291347
yeah i dont know why we need two schoolkids back to back
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>>553291583
>>553291347
No I agree with him, the heroes this patch don't look good aside from venator (now with a faggot name). Hopefully silver doesn't suck but I have no hope now
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>>553291347
>looks worse than fucking Highguard's design
Bait spotted. Move along fellas.
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>>553291990
Nah Graves is kino.
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>>553290460
kill yourself leaguetroon
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When I was playing this game I thought to myself "boy I wish there was some zesty faggot demon queer that plays some gay sport like fencing and he has a stupid face" and it feels good to have my wish answered
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>>553291608
God forbid you can't just run at people and press 2 to instantly win the fight.
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>>553292754
I don't even play league. I'm just sick of the entire late game revolving around 2 ults.
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>>553292924
>reading comprehension
lmao
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Hoping Rem has a deep voice
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Hoping everyone that plays Rem dies of a sudden cardiac event
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>>553276572
>Ideology is meaningless
interesting ideology you have
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this but graves and mina
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>>553292843
Happy for you, it came to me in a dream where I was getting gay sex from a gay guy - hopoo
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>>553288131
yesssssss
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New player here. Shiv should be able to generate rage from jungle creep.
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>>553294010
it was like that before but it was absurdly broken which is why they changed it
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>>553276436
that's the joke anon
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>>553293427
in the worst timeline it would be david spade
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>>553293224
Ok I'll explain further, you fucking retard.
Mid game you can't afford to spend 6.4k on a defensive item(that doesn't have any components) to counter 1 hero on the enemy team. Unless Bebop is the entire enemy team you are just going to get plowed through by everyone else because you have no damage.
Debuff remover being 3.2k is fine and it removing point and click spells is fine.
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>>553294010
Old player here, they made shiv unfun and I suggest playing drifter instead
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>>553294469
You can silence him and counter spell him, both of which cost less that 6.4k, brainlet bro
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>>553294405
nah kuzco is based
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>play bomb geist
>do fine, do a lot of damage. maybe lose lane but almost never get gaped unless its a clear smurf
>play anything else
>megafeed and do fucking no damage
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>>553293427
Give him a thug nigger voice
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they should have a hero called acrobat

she's a hot fit babe that appeals to the straight male gaze and can fly around the map with tons of stamina, extra jumps and dashes, enhanced wall bounces

she does single target assassinates and lockdowns
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Give Rem a heavy german accent and let him just be a tired old man that wants to sleep
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i've been playing rabbit/ult steal sinclair for some time now and i get good results but have trouble farming.
which would get better results, trophy collector or culist?
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>>553280635
underrated post
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>>553295094
To expand on this, make him sound like the Cole Train and I'll be cool with Rem existing
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It's most likely happening next week
t. Lives in Washington
>>553295502
this is literally celeste its a tranny
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>>553294805
What rank? I feel like bomb Geist is trash when I try it in oracle/phantom
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>>553295693
Celeste isnt just a name from a troon game

The Mary Celeste is a ship from the late 1800s.
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>>553295857
>>553294805
When I've played geist I lean more into malice and that's how I win (ascendant)
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>>553293757
Her armpits always looked so fuckable here
>>553280635
Read it in his voice
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>>553295962
As a spirit build?
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>starting to unironically see gun lash builds
>but spirit is too strong though
this playerbase is completely delusional and wants the game to just be a generic third person shooter
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>>553295884
imagine it was the ghostly captain of some wayward abandoned ship, fucking kino. Please give us Kunkka
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>>553296549
think people are just bored, man.
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>>553296673
Im actually surprised we dont have a proper nautical profession hero yet
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>>553296823
if you are so bored that you choose to play the most fun character in the least fun way you should just find a new game
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>>553296145
Nah spirit geist is just inconsistent in my eyes. You just need radiant reg and BRS. Any more spirit investment should be an active like slowing hex or knockdown. Otherwise, you wanna go fast and get gun items. I dont like bomb geist because you can just whiff the bomb and then you're just a non-hero for ten seconds, which is basically a lifetime in this game in a midgame fight. You still want points in bomb early for poke and clear, and you want to hit 4.8k spirit early for that. Its pretty solved though. Every gun geist build always gets berserker, enduring speed, fleet foot, and spirit resilience so you don't kill yourself on casting bomb. If they dont have a lot of spirit damage, you could get away with only weighted shots, but most builds get both.
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>>553296145
Hybrid
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>M-MUH BALANCE

I do not fucking care if Rem or Fencer becomes giganigga hitler kike troonsquad 7000 just drop the patch. Hotpoo and Yoshit you retarded fucks.
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>>553298786
i don't want multiple on-release shiv tier characters no thank you fuck off.
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Take your time devs, I can wait til April I don't mind
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>>553299030
>april
holy fuck, rush them more why don't you? you'll see a patch in june and it'll be the best august of your life. november isn't even that far away you ADHD brained zoomer fuck
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>>553299352
B^D
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>>553278157
>>553278757
yeah, thats why its so stupid that they chose THIS direction with him, when it was SO EASY to make it actually fit in while de-facto keeping everything as is
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>>553297673
You are correct sir. Lash is quite literally the worst gun character in the game. Also the "gun" builds for him still lane with mostly spirit. It's so funny.
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>>553298786
>I do not fucking care if Rem or Fencer becomes giganigga hitler
Drifter and Victor were both like this and nobody cared and they were fixed shortly after. I don't know why they're so worried.
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Should Deadlock have skins like Rivals or OW that completely replaces a characters model?
Or should it be like Dota where you can mix and match outfits?

Or will it be both?
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>>553300306
valve usually goes for the hats approach but who knows, it may feel old-fashioned nowadays even though it's objectively better than full model replacement kind of skins
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>>553300289
>fixed shortly after
victor's POTENTIALMAN kit is still just as broken though
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>>553300426
>>553300306

dota has personas so maybe both
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>>553300306
All that matters to me is that Doorman gets a serious of cosmetics that has him as different occupations. I need to see Postman.
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>>553300306
please dont, make it relatively toned-down hats like old dota
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What made Wraith worse?
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restorative locket should get a rework
what if it gained more effects as you gained stacks?
>any stacks
>gain 2 stamina
>10 stacks
>heal 200 health
>20 stacks
>gain 250 barrier and faster movespeed for 8 seconds
>30 stacks
>cleanse non ultimate debuffs
>40 stacks
>reduce all ability cooldowns by 10 seconds
>item cooldown is now 120 seconds
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>>553303817
The meta just kind of skewed towards taking more midgame fights over urn because it's so strong and she doesn't really want to be doing that. She's still insane. Also she can't stack infinite movespeed and be a racecar anymore but I don't think that matters much.
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>>553291283
>requires good game sense in his own words
>cries about bombbop when I just used sticky bomb as an example
>actually unironically gets shit on by noobstomper bombbop
>does not think debuff remover bought by every top rank player (my elo) is overbloated
holy self expose
seeker general
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So all devs will be back by monday
Does that mean yoshi will give us an estimate by that point?
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>>553304568
this shit is releasing on January 32nd
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>>553304568
i'm expecting either a "soon" on the 19th followed by a shadowdrop that afternoon, or a sheepish "...sorrry" on the 27th and it's delayed to feb
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Pull.
Back.
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>>553304761
>>553304568

desu everything just sounds like some balancing issue and number tweaks IF we believe the leaker
Pepper just got recolored a bit

so if all they need to do is number tweaking at this point then i would not be surprised if it came out relatively soonish
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>>553304568
no, he said after devs are back they will do more work and THEN they'll have a rough estimate
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>>553305643
Theyre already doing work now from the steamdb updates...
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if the same people that allowed victor to release the way he was are finding balancing issues, it must be pretty bad.
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>>553305985
They nearly gave a rabbit sized character the ability to put a giant area of people to sleep instantly, these devs are braindead
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>>553306104
instantly? I thought it had a channel time.
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>>553306237
I think the fact he could do it regardless, they essentially just made a second Mina ult
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Since no patch I've taken to trolling games legally.
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>>553306495
it's fine, holliday and sinclair ornament farmers have been trolling for weeks now
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>>553296890
I would really like this and/or a pilot of some sort
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Why wont valve add a hero with a fairy motif to deadlock?
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>>553306997
we had Skyrunner at one point but that's scrapped
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>>553307037
Dark willow crossover
Trust
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I haven't seen a Kelvin in a while.
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>>553307138
Skyrunner was a construction worker you idiot
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>>553307037
what does this broad have to do with fairies?
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>>553307373
she's a friendly green fairy that loves (You)
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>>553307434
>lolislop
You know they won't put anything like this in, sorry pedo.
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Is it better to use m2 or m1 on yamamoto?
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>>553307587
Spam heavy melees as you're obviously in the tard bracket since you have to ask.
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>>553307587
it depends
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>>553307138
I remember people posting about an amelia earhart hero but seems like that's shelved too or was fake
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>>553307745
Her skills went to Pepper
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>>553307587
M2 -> hold down for free extra damage between abilities, use to poke when cover is involved
M1 -> shooting someone normally
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>>553307037
Cuz you don't deserve it
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>>553307875
don't forget to always finish your magazine with an m2
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>>553307516
In the good timeline Graves is a loli
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>>553307708
Last time I did that i got parried and died.
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>>553308394
Were one step closer to loli pugna...
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Dullahan character that has straight up no head hitbox when?
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Nothing I hate more than those """support""" paiges that buy guardian ward (they don't upgrade it) then proceed to only buy items for spirit damage which they somehow always manage to whiff
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>>553309962
car hero
its a car that drives around in lane (the street)
cant fit in some areas
vehicle ramming
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>>553308394
In the good timeline Viscous is a slime loli
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to main a character you must watch the movie they came from.
example
Victor: Frankenstein (1994) (if below oracle, 2025)
Abrams: Hellboy
wraith, haze, infernus: Gay Niggers From Outer Space
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>>553312521
joke doesn't work since hellboy was a comic and frankenstein was a novel
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>>553312521
for mina obviously it's dracula but the question is which dracula
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>>553288115
>nonzero chance the circus aesthetic tomboyish futa horsegirl has a rocket jump
DO IT VALVE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
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>>553313083
>mina
>silver
twilight
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Can I get an Invite please?, I'll leave my Steam information in good faith.
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Where SILVER!?
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>>553313946
sent ;)
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SevenCHADS,
Status!?
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>>553279776
Is Mina afraid of cotton?
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>>553279776
>all i can do is shitpostey meme drawings
you and me both, brother
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>>553313946
You can get an invite on the Deadlock forum on Steam.
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>>553315582
I'll give it a try, Thanks.
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>>553313946
>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.
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>>553312521
Drifter is from the Nosferatu remake because women get extremely horny over both of them for some reason
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I got the patch.... in my pants!
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the one time i posted my steam profile i was visited the next day by a group of roughly 7 black men and i was forcibly penetrated for an extended period of time. i'm never posting my info here again, you never know what can happen to your rectum
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why does an interrupted swap cast refund her the entire cooldown?
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>>553313083
Tsukihime
drifter gets the old novels
mina new vampire content
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>>553318429
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>>553318429
>>553318626
why is your algorithm in trannylock
my algorithm just shows Mina Ha thighs
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>>553318429
>>553318626
>mobilefag
kys
>using xitter in 2026
even more embarrassing
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>>553317702
Ixians came to your place?
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>still no fucking update
This is how the soldiers felt when they were on the LCVPs on D-Day.
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>>553318626
>i suck so i'm "stuck" in the rank with people that suck
so... you're not stuck?
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>>553318958
Nothing wrong with that tho
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ping wheel needs more options, smarter context or paging imo
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>>553319003
cant believe deadlock is a setting where the world wars never happened and valve barely explores it
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>>553279776
I don't get that image.
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I'm home in about an hour bros please tell me the update is waiting for me when I get home. I'm finally done with these challenges so I can play and have fun
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>>553318429
legitimately nice to see a Valve game with proper trans community
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>>553319930
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>MINA HA!
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>>553319745
It's the middle of the night on the west coast, nigga.
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>>553319958
???
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>>553319967
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>>553319967
...is not a true and honest vampire
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>>553320108
Thanks for your input, Drifter
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>>553319996
Ok?
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>>553319967
Not even kidding id devour her feces
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Any kino Spirit heroes like Pocket?
Can Spirit Mirage work? Or Bomb Calico?
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>>553319745
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>>553319967
RRRRRRRISE UP
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Reminder that Mina singlehandedly altered the design direction of the female heroes in this game
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>>553322006
Mina is less out of place than Paige
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why
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>>553322006
i want to greasefuck mina, add more minas valve
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Kill enemies? I just farm until Storm Cloud recharges, then go in to solidify a push.
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>>553322006

Good
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When was the last time you saw someone buy Diviner's Kevlar?
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>>553322731
It's not a bad item in theory, but there's simply no character who could use it to its full potential, especially at that price.
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>>553319745
Heading home can't believe the update is finally here.
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>Find a way to stop Shiv from healing!
So what is it?
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>>553322731
its good for mo with magic carpet
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>>553322731
by the time most people buy it a gun character can chew through the entire barrier in one second.
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>>553323098
Healbane, toxic bullets, and another 6.4 item I forgot
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>>553322731
it's a funny item on Warden. Also I buy it on M&K if the games goes long and I need to Combo someone in the middle of a firefight.
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>>553323098
DEGAY :DDDDD
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>>553322443
I hope Graves is just as attractive
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>>553323270
>DEGAY
does this item makes Miku lust for benis and Lash for poossay?
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>>553274168
why did they put this stupid retard in pajamas
why does something with a layer of feathers (fur?) wear pajamas in fucking NYC
retarded outfit
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>>553322907
it's good on pocket and sinclair
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>>553275568
>Jan 2025 should have been the reuniting of builds.
Deadlocks player base is fucking RETARDED, bro.
there is a reason we are isolated to the cuck build.
dipshit normalfags were complaining about "too many updates" or too many changes to their ebin character and got upset.
if it would have worked, we'd have it.
but this dogshit community gives no valuable feedback outside of "SEVEN BWOKEN!!!" and "FAGGOT DEVS FIX DA GAME (without articulating what they think is the problem and how they'd fix it)
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what the fuck does this character even do now?
>can't eat waves from far away because of soul pickup changes
>can't clear jungle camps on the way because spirit resist and tankier jg camps
>can't go gun after the 19 sledgehammer nerfs
>>>>>>>spirit ivy KEEEEEEEEEEK
>healcuck ivy is OUTRAGEOUSLY boring and no skill
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>>553324045
Heal ivy is very nice and fun and strong and good.
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>>553324045
Post the bj version you cuck
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>>553318429
>tranny finds out that most trannies in fandoms prefer RPing as and gooning to characters over actually playing/watching something
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>>553318626
>I refuse to voice train, and I am going to get upset if people think I am a man
What's even the fucking point of being trans at that point then
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>>553324273
>Heal ivy is very nice and fun and strong and good.
that's cool and all but I need to have SOMETHING mechanically there for me on the character.
if there is 0 margin for error then what's the fucking point, might as well just go play minecraft
not flaming you btw, just how I feel about heal builds in general like heal Dynamo or Kelvin etc etc.
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>>553324526
That's what the Vortex Web + True Form combo is for
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>>553324273
drop your build
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I forgot how to play Paige.
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>>553324585
>That's what the Vortex Web + True Form combo is for
this carried me up to high ASC but it's way too inconsistent for solo queue.
retards just will NOT follow up on your thwompwalk combos and ONLY start attacking the guy AFTER you stunned them with ult, 3d, echo shard 3d the guy.
I miss rat ivy...
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>>553323098
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>>553324045
you're a soft carry that can be anywhere on the map at a short moment's notice.
you aren't meant to do 800 dps like all the actual gun carries, you join in when retards are skirmishing for no reason and make 1v1's into 1v2's.
you can also bail people out when those 1v1's turn into unfavorable ganks. you're incredibly hard to kill, can avoid a ton of dangerous shit with statue, and have 4 stamina by default.
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>>553324045
time to masturbate to Ivy porn!!
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>>553325346
vyper*
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>>553324939
>you're a soft carry that can be anywhere on the map at a short moment's notice.
fights are way too short for you to rotate in time with the long wind up of ult and by the time you're there they're either too low to safely reengage or are already winning and now you lost side lane pressure.
>you can also bail people out
duh
>hard to kill
does it really matter when ivy isn't threat #1 or hell, even number 3? anyone shooting at ivy in a team fight is a fucking retard regardless.
>4 stam
isn't making or breaking the character viability wise.
which she isn't really a threat in any way currently right now on this patch.
you either healbot or are 80% of a hero.
at least in ascendant.
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God I wish they'd just lynch Yoshi and Hopoo and Icefrog
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>>553325667
Mobility and objective damage is all you need to be relevant.
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>>553324682
I don't think I'm built for the support life. I just want to shoot at objectives.
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Just make it so that every hit on Rem is a headshot and that he receives on hit slow from bullets
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or maybe the low elo animals should learn to aim
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>>553325667
>you either healbot or are 80% of a hero.
no argument here, i'm just saying ivy players need to stop expecting to be able to carry when their kits are that overloaded.
if you want the same playstyle but want to have more influence over the game outcome just play fucking mina.
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Sincerely, I ly fags play Doorman
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>>553326314
>Ivys playstyle is comparable to mina
nigga are you for real
>overloaded
ah, league player using buzzwords he doesn't know the meaning of. I see.
you can call literally any character overloaded if you describe it like a faggot that just hates the character
>bebop is overloaded! he has long-range hook that grabs you from 92 meters, free spirit burst damage while building gun, le BROKEN base damage on ult, and can auto win fights before they even begin just by landing hook from safety!!!11!
despite the fact he's as simple as simple gets.
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how do I escape arcanist I
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>>553322731
I pretty much always buy it after Magic Carpet on Sinclair.
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>>553328062
Play victor
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>>553315051
>>553319520
its hogweed! its noxious and it causes skin burns
(the original post for which i drew this mentioned stuff like onion and silver being harmful for vampires/monsters but not outright killing them, instead just causing stuff like chemical burns etc.)
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>>553325667
>>553327110
the ivyfag is here to downplay his little reddit girl.
as always.
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how effective would crushing fists be in a slam/flog build since it already does massive damage
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DECEMBER PATCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>553329285
It wouldn't improve anything relating to said build, it would just make your melee stronger. If you already use melee as Lash, sure.
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>>553329285
kinda impossible to answer melee related questions since melee is probably the most rank dependant way to build. High rank? No, you're just gonna get parried 40% of the time you heavy and explode? Low rank? Yeah because melee does a piss load of damage
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>>553330006
this isn't the lgbt board
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>>553321312
Gun calico is actually relatively new and was always spirit prior

Spirit mirage is just mark mirage, attack speed doesnt work with it so you get flat spirit+ cooldown(mark at max stacks is 3x scaling, the cdr lets you stack faster). Ammo is nice tho so you aren't reloading during application
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>>553322731
It was litterally never bought dur8ng capacitor meta. Now I see pockets get super late. It really is not bad, the stats it gives you are arguably overstated

>>553322907
The only stat that everyone cant use is duration, I like it on mirage sometimes
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>>553329494
in december, duh
just wait for 11 more months, bro
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aimlet here
which hero I can build for purple/green and still be usefull for my team?
preferably not a full blown support
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>>553330828
I feel like you already know the answer to this
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>>553330828
Only lash can do two colors without being secretively shamed by his peers. That being said you can still play aimlet heros and get gun stuff, people still run splitshot paige I think and doorman gun is still tree trunk sized

Really tho I suggest you git gud
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>>553330828
Victor
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>>553331015
Oh and mo I guess
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Why are people so opposed to training their aim? You don't need kovaaks/aim trainers, just consciously put in effort to aim and you'll train naturally.
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>>553329494
the extra time off gave them more time to note faults in the patch or characters that they want to iron out
so they want to fix Rem because I guess he's too goddamn small
I bet Silver didn't have one of her models finished so they'll do that
maybe some map bullshit or they'll get some VAs back in the studio to re-record new voice lines for new names
and now a December patch is a February patch
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>>553330828
mina
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>>553331235
As an FPS tard, I feel like aim isn't that important in Deadlock compared to other shooters. When I lose an engagment, very rare is the thought "if I just landed more shots I would've won". I used to aim train for most shooters I played and having as crisp an aim as possible was crucial to winning but in deadlock? You can get by with the bare minimum of aim
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>>553331441
>telling aimlet to play fragile character entirely reliant on hitting shots
funny prank anon
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>>553329252
it's astounding how pointless and ironic your post is
too many retards itt have enraged me enough to the point I can't even tell if it's bait or not
I can only kneel
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>>553330828
Fellow Aimlet, I main both Victor/Billy
Victor is self explanatory, you only use his gun the early game the rest its just aura and pain battery spam
With Billy you should always just be up front and personal so it makes missing a lot more harder even if you cannot aim for your life. The trade is that you need to git gud at melee or you will go 0/10.
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If you play gun paige still I fucking hate you.
Seriously at least buy some fucking greens jesus christ its embarrassing. Fucking useless team mates.
Why do paige players do this? Split shot has miserable uptime now and they can't fucking hit anything without it.
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>>553331969
Ivy is god tier if you're not a retard
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>>553333920
>Ivy is god tier if you're not an Ivy main
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>>553331969
in case you ask, no im not a lash player
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>will never slam viscous's (female) goossy turning them white
sigh...
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>>553333628
*pulls up #1 paige from the leaderboard*
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>>553334652
If I was playing with the number 1 paige I wouldnt be complaining.
In my bracket Paiges don't hit bullets outside of splitshot, yet they could be just shield/nuke/lockdown maxing and pretty much never whiffing with their enormous spells
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>>553334652
HOLY BASED
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Once I started calling people fags in text chat my hit detection has gone down 50%
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>>553312521
Ivy: Nacho Libre
based character, based movie
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This game is shit because all the items and their passives have such pathetically low cooldowns
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Why is the game putting me in ascendant lobbies? I'm an Oracle shitter...
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>>553335517
Ha ha, retard, you fell for the negativity meme
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>>553331235
you underestimate the plight of the aimlet and you likely already have good/decent aim where improving does barely anything for you.
for some people there are massive gains to be had just sitting on the table and training/practicing with intent is the proven method of getting good at anything rapidly.
>>553331454
you probably don't play gun builds where missing for like one whole second is just disastrous for your damage output.
that's also a pretty retarded mentality since even top players miss a bunch in fights.
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>>553334609
(this specific) viscie is big and muscular but gooey and nice and cute, ergo he has to have a cock
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For real. Best Seven build?
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>>553336543
>but gooey
how much gooeyer can one get
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>>553336160
>missing
landing shots is bare minimum dude, I'm referring to headshot tracking
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>>553336160
Barring some disabilities, anyone can see huge leaps in aim skill over a very short period of time. The majority do not practice at all and with 2 weeks of 15 minutes daily you will gap 80% of people, probably more
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>>553336671
i use this except with titanic and arcane surge instead of alc and fleetfoot, although maybe i should be running alc
236324
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>>553336671
Big Balls into lightning scroll.
It's the best because its the most fun
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>>553336671
Its power surge. Get Titanic so you dont have to reload during it, get a bunch of on hit effects like healbane/Suppressor and mass debuff the enemy team. Its also one of the only builds where Escalating exposure isnt a complete throw item
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>>553337316
awww look, he's smiling!
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>>553334609
>>553336543
Please stop talking about Viscous like that.
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Drifter should be able to buy lighting scroll. Just have his ult do 1 damage to trigger the effect.
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>>553337795
hmmmmm no
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not playing until the patch
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>>553337795
dont worry we're (at least i am) talking non-canon glorp kitty viscous

>>553337895
i feel its weird that vindicta is unable to use it, considering its supposted to activate only once per ultimate. maybe give it like a 60 second cooldown so that it doesnt proc 4 times on charged ults (unless it'd still be op)
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>>553338723
why'd you think i posted that catcous picture
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This just in, a terrorist group has taken control of valve hq and they wont release the patch until their demands are met.
Gaben was spotted rolling out the back entrance of the building and into his yacht.
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where was that gooner viscous with fishnets
i don't see it on gamebanana
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>average match rank was higher than mine
>every lane but mine loses really badly
>that means i was probably the lowest ranked player in that game and i was still somehow the only person on my team that was playing the game that match
jesus christ, how terrifying.
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PATCH ISN'T OUT YET!
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>>553339841
stop trolling the thread please
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the patch only comes out when you complete five nights at abrams
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Imagine pic related, but it's Ivy deploying Abrams.
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>>553335603
what
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>>553340995
Why does this give weapon damage. Of all the stats it could give
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>losing game after we down their patron
>sinclair hits the baddest black hole during rejuv contest
>win
Fuck, this game is too fun sometimes.
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>>553341076
Because the effect is overpowered. It shouldn't have any secondary stats at all.
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>>553341076
So m1 trannies can buy it without losing too much DPS
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>>553272302
What about Priest retard. It fit perfectly and should've stayed. For some reason they're leaning towards actual names.
Even bookworm was fine
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Do you get anything at all for killing someone with a snowball?? What's the incentive for doing this?
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>>553341772
an in-game popup that says you got a snowball kill.
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>>553341772
Humiliation
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>>553341772
Tilting opponents wins games
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>>553341810
>>553341824
>>553341843
So meaningless slop
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>>553341907
Did you think it would unlock the battle pass early?
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>>553341772
The entire game gets to see a pop-up with funny noise that tells everyone you just clowned someone.
What else do you want?
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>>553341907
If you have a max level snowball and your enemy doesnt you do have a legit advantage over somebody who doesn't.
It's not a massive advantage, but it can tip scales
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>>553342025
Well 10 bucks into my steam wallet would be a good start.
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>>553341076
it's enough to incentivize retards to buy it when they actually need to.
that's pretty much what it's there for, to make damage-brained people not averse to buying it.
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4.8k greens first got proven to be better. He simply can't stop winning.
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giving Seven one more try, after that i drop him good, what a shit ass hero
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>>553341772
Free damage, what more incentive do you need? Press the button and do 60 damage multiple times in a row.
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Every day that they've been sitting on 3v3/aram/street battle mode has been approximately 20 million nigger suffering units of rape released into the emotional atmosphere of samsara.
Yoshi must answer
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Is the real redpill that this is a body shot game?
Anyone Ascendant and upwards I watch just aims for center mass, almost never aiming at heads.
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>>553341565
overwatch players prefer names
valve wants the game to hit OW1 highs of cultural significance, not dota 2 where no one in the west could name 3 characters
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>>553342312
Yeah that would be pretty good actually
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>>553344798
Its been a bodyshot game for like a year, they nerfed headshots to irrelevance a long time ago.
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>>553341565
>>553344879
it's literally just because names stick easier than nouns, retards. i can not believe these are real questions and misconceptions being posted.
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>>553341907
i pity these zoomers whoses mothers allowed an ipad to steal their soul
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Love it when the game just gives your team 0 hard carries and the other team gets wraith and haze.
Spend 90% of the game winning then just suddenly lose because its too hard to push into base and 1 teamwipe against their carries means gg that late.
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>>553345776
>team is all spirit with no gun
>objectives takes forever
>can't do midboss because it takes forever
>can't deal damage because we used our cooldowns and don't do damage now
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>Most broken teleport in the game
>Has access to 6 ultimates per match
>Can contest mid for free with rabbits
>Heat seeking missiles that do ten thousands damage

Why are you not playing Sinclair?
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>>553345630
It was less than 2 months ago
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>>553345936
I find his abilities awkward to execute. Not hard or impossible, just not fun flow wise. Just like Holliday.
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>>553346047
there was an even bigger nerf a year ago before mirage, right around the time denying was gutted
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>>553342968
Qrd?
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>>553346113
honestly just scrap/rework all the heroes from the january 17th "update". If the rest of the hero labs characters got scrapped then these should as well. Completely half-baked.
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>about to duel an enemy gun carry as vyper
>they hit capacitor
>i am instantly out of ammo
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>>553346625
titanic mag is a necessary item
maybe active reload too
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never playing seven ever again
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>>553346625
>he fell for the slide meme

Peak vyper is unbinding crouch
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>>553345936
The bolt is kind of shit outside of early lane, but hunting for ults with majestic leap and then sliming away with the assistant is a lot of fun.
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>>553346779
but i like having infinite purple LED bullets from one cast of merc mag...
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lol
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im absolutely TANKING my rank by playing nothing but doorman and holliday to get better at them
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>no patch
>weekend matchmaking
I really wanted to play but man, it's just not possible.
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Why do so many troons try to vocally steal characters from biofems?
Why can't these failed men let us actually have something for once?
Literally NONE of the female characters in this game are troons.
Pocket is your troon.
Enjoy "them" and leave out shit alone.
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>>553348603
>bringing troons up out of nowhere
back to /lgbt/ with you
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>statlocker says I'm Ascendant 3
>in reality I'm Ritualist 1 or Arcanist 6 depending on the day
And people trust this shitty site?
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>>553348715
Fuck yourself moid.
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>>553348603
>Pocket is your troon.
No he is not. If you were a real woman you'd know he's a special bishounen king.
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>>553348936
Wrong, that's doorman. Get out of here with your shit taste.
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>>553331760
>fragile character entirely reliant on hitting shots
surviving on her is more about how much you can get away with using your get or of jail free card than aiming, and LB only requires like five bodyshots to proc so i wouldn't say she's that reliant on aim
t. mina main
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>>553348905
go back
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>>553348603
I'm only lightly versed in troonology, but the goal is to become a passoid, yes?
to say otherwise is orgehonfident cope?
so why would you want to identify as a character that's failing in the same way you are?
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Victor was a mistake
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>>553349438
Yeah. Utterly braindead character that lives or dies solely based on if his team lets him solo farm.
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>>553349438
How so?
Did you forget to buy the one if 5 hard-counter items that essentially remove him from the game?
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>>553349591
curse and
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>>553349438
Literally every character from the last batch was a mistake and only gooners would argue otherwise
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>>553349591
the only item that works where you still need 1-2 other people to nuke him during a ~4-5s window is curse
thats 6,4k and youll need two of them to kill him twice
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>>553349686
silencer as a fast firing carry
pop curse, silence him as soon as curse ends.
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>>553349942
>>553349942
>>553349942
>>553349942
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>>553348603
this artist is a fagot for never showing his werewolf's nips/pussy and so are you for posting this here
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>>553349686
focus lens
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>>553348603
>biofems
only trannies use this term, go back to /lgbt/
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>tfw there's no secret shop on the edge of the map that sells discounted items that people on the enemy team have sold throughout the match called deal dock
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>>553295514
trophy collector is a dead item. it basically rapes your tempo in exchange for long term gain in a patch where people are brooling from 10m onwards. if you can get CARRIED in fights sure it might eventually pay off but speaking as a support even, nova is way better...
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>>553303964
restorative locket just needs to be turned into a 3200 item and be made relatively good again but have it just out of reach enough that everyone doesn't just rush it in lane and auto win because of it. some things you could do with this bump in price.
>maximum stack size reduced from 20 to 15
>base heal increased from 20 to 30, retains boon scaling
>acquisition range improved from 30m to 40m, now effected by range %
these would make the item viable again for supports without leaving it in the threshold where it becomes a must buy in lane. given that it's a t3 item, it'd be nice to have some sort of a build up. I think extra regen is appropriate. Healing Rite turns into rescue beam and nova, extra regen only turns into healing booster. you could have it so that turns into two items as well.
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IM A DEAD MAN. To all bros who put me onto Victor this characters retarded and I love yall.
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>>553348905
don't call me that I don't like being called that



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