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>News
Battle Fest 3! (Jan 16th, 6 am - Jan 18th, 9 am UTC)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KDCZJ2XMWR55SAG8Z11J9V6B

Treasure Chest Victory Rewards! (Jan, 3rd 2am - Jan, 12th 8 pm UTC)
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01KD1TEFQHMTQGSFPM0053EJ54

>5th Card Set: Blossoming Fate
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/blossoming-fate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr57zb3vUIE

>Collaboration: Frieren (29/12/2025 - 27/01/2026)
https://collaboration.shadowverse-wb.com/frieren/en/

>Resource Guide (decks, tier lists, guilds, and leader trailers)
https://rentry.org/svg-resources

Official website & deck portal
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/

Shadowverse Anime
https://anime.shadowverse.jp

Shadowverse Evolve TCG
https://en.shadowverse-evolve.com/

/svg/'s card & leader database and deckbuilder (classic)
https://svgdb.me

Shadowverse: World's Beyond Card Database
https://mhmkhlrdn.github.io/WBGDB/Site

Last Showdown: >>553330281
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>>553454768
tanoshii has space for one! we have hit max rewards every set and are well on our way to doing it again for this one.
our guild id is 649735728082, but please add me at 305523877606 so I can have the spot guaranteed before kicking an inactive.
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>>553455150
Give me a moment. I need to quit my current guild.
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Was there ever a chance in any way to get GP sleeves again in SV1?
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nyaggers
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Is it fun hanging out in the lounge while everyone else are out there grinding? Doing weeklies. Testing new deck ideas. Playing ball. Just chatting sometimes. Is it fun? Join Shadowbabs with a friend and find out!
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>>553455392
Forgot ID
122066259564
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Stop recruiting
The game is just not getting new players

Frieren slop killed the game
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>>553455864
It was basically DOA in the west anyway. It would take a minor miracle for players to come back.
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I don't really want "new" players tbqh
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I'm ok with shadowverse being a niche game, i'd rather it not have a retarded fanbase like limbus and nigger archive

>>553456092
based
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>sakakibara
>cuckishiro haven
[X]
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>>553454768
Why is Esperanza looking at me like this, does she know something I don't?
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https://youtu.be/lx4I5CuiAjQ?t=82
Here we have the literal best portal player fighting a random dragon nigger, portal is op btw except it literally can't do anything versus dragon.
Oh but dragon is not broken according to dragon niggers portal is op.
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>>553456865
it's a card game, rng plays a big factor
just because you're the best player doesn't mean you deserve to win
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portal nigger seethe
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>>553456957
Except there's no rng every single portal vs dragon match plays out exactly like that
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i think im going to craft egg portal... im so close to keeping my sapphire when i reach gm ;_;
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>portalnigger becomes meta
>immediate downplay and pivot to other crafts
why are they like this
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Can someone give me the most meta Dragon deck at the moment? Thr one I'm using this set has been trash.
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>>553457635
isnt this the same chart since 3 days?
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>>553457761
learn to build a deck according to your rank/CR
people in very very high CRs have unorthodox decks that include things meant to counter the most common decks they encounter
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>>553456619
>Play vs portal after turn 3
>Still lose
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>>553454768
consult the graphs

>>553457761
https://svlabo.jp/blog-entry-1547.html?deck=%E3%81%BB%E3%83%BC%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93D&type=elm&class=0
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>>553456057
>review bomb the game since day 1
>no one new is trying it
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>>553457761
unironically, hoe chan is the best dragon right now
due to good matchup against egg and other dragon deck (evo dragon)
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>>553457958
Are you implying it's somehow player's fault that the game is not getting new players?
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>>553457958
i reviewbombed when they rigged the first battle fes
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>lose
>win
>lose
>win
Yeah, I think I am quitting this game. Even pros only climb 100 CR off 10 hours. Fucking unreal
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>>553457881
what would be a good deck for 900~1000 CR?
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>>553457913
>most popular class can beat sword and rune now so its the most popular
So what else am i supposed to gather from this graph? Doesn't mean it doesn't get hard countered by dragon
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i miss the chest event already
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>>553458140
Aggro sword, if you're legitimately 900-1000 CR don't miss lethal like an idiot by gambling when you have it with another card.
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>>553457913
the gap between forest and everyone else is huge lul
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>>553457881
Id love to but im too retarded. Its much easier for me to copy a savant. I can only sub 1 or 2 cards before I get lost and fuck it up.
>>553457913
>>553458069
Thanks
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>>553457958
I review bombed and don't regret it that's what they fucking deserve for jewing out the liquefy and rigging the fest 1 to sell fucking card arts. If they want my negative review to become a positive review they should fix my complaints this isn't a charity it's a business
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>>553458069
I sure as hell wouldnt have tried this game after the release reception if I hadn't already been a fan of the first.
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>>553457913
glad we have portal downplayers again
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>>553458069
It literally is
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>>553458019
thanked wrong person
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>>553458097
I read your negative comment in the Steam reviews
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>>553458675
>its the players fault for the devs turbojew behavior
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>>553458675
>players fault the devs ruined the game and forced them to leave negative reviews
Can you stop being a cuck? Any chinese company gets review bombed on their shitty gacha game and fixes all the issues instantly to appease the players these jap bugmen ignore every single review and feedback since launch and you think people should just forgive them? Fuck them
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>>553459079
Yet you're here instead of playing chinkoid slop. Curious.
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>>553458138
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>>553459227
Don't you worry about it as soon as a chinese card game comes out i'm jumping ships
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https://streamable.com/41b968

I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER
YOU GUYS ARE NPCS MADE TO INTERACT WITH ME
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>>553459521
lmao
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>>553457123
maybe he should stop playing eggs and start playing puppets
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>>553459725
Then you just lose to odd haven as well
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>>553459725
Then instead of getting farmed by dragon niggers you get farmed by trans hags
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>>553459521
Doesn't Genshin have a card game already?
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>>553459521
Chaos Zero Nightmare?
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>>553458675
lol
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>it's THAT time again.. lobby tournament with fucking retarded shitstains!
>game1 mongoloid has everything while i brick

off to a good start
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>>553459892
Who cares i want a real card game not a side game attached on 100gb of trash
>>553459895
>singleplayer korean slop
>have to grind like genshin
>no pvp
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>>553459608
I don't see Ignis Dragon in this video
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>>553457913
>that forest dropoff
grim, the craft is being carried by few dedicated roach autists and even they are at the bottom of everything
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>>553460239
>give most crafts the ability to flood the entire board with 1 card use
>forest that needs shitty combos to clear boards runs out of steam after 3 cards
>dies
Double genesis already exists in the game they should just stop nerfing forest out of roach fear
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>>553460000
garbage
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>>553457913
breaking news: sword and dragon top CR are both at 2115 right now

portal at 2124
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Here is your Shadowverse killer
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3330500/Smutstone/
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>>553460616
The shadowverse killer was shadowverse executives ignoring the reviews
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>>553460616
holy shit i might have to miss the 21488 orgy for this...
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velharia is homophobic
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>>553460526
and now wait for two topazniggers to finish their piece of shit game
hehe
hehe
hehe
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>>553462664
take a dump on their table to speed the match up
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>>553460239
>combo class
>no 0 cost cards to combo with
hmm
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holy fucking dead game
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>>553463063
that's could be the result of extending the tournament period
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>>553463195
any fex sox friendly guilds?
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>>553460892
>4700 hours
What the fuck?
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>>553463872
very easy to farm hours on steam (be it accidently or on purpose) by just having the game open in the background
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>>553463872
>>553463992
i dont have the game open in the background, i just like playing it
ive been playing it consistently since mid 2022
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>>553463872
it is a 10 year old game??
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>>553457913
>forest, abyss, rune, and haven COMBINED not even equal to second place
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>playing against dragon
>opponent plays Garyu
>gets cleared by sevo'd Oluon andd Grimnir effect
>opponent plays another Garyu
>gets cleared by Unkei and Gilnelise
>opponent plays Erntz
>doesn't clear sevo'd Gilnelise
>concedes
GET FUCKED YOU SUCKER, YOU DRAGONFAGS SUCK, YOU SUCK!!
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it took eggs 3 sets to be good
just wait your turn bros
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>>553464321
see you in 2 sets when evolve forest is the new cancer
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>swordjeet complaining about another craft doing something
>while winning anyway

certified classic
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>>553464479
I hope so. That way I can justify the Cupitan leader
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cringe
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WHY IS THE TOURNAMENT ALWAYS SO FUCKING LAGGY??????
CAUSED ME TO LOSE ANOTHER FUCKING GAME
FUCK THIS SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>anon blogpost
>reading with full attention
>dragon hate
>thats alright
>sword pov
>realized anon is brown and stopped reading
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Is today the last day for chests?
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>>553464638
nothing can justify that
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>>553464981
no
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>>553464729
What actions are considered white then
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>>553464505
>>553464729
>t. dragonbabs
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>>553464985
She cute.
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>says the brown swordbab
yikers
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awww so sword doesn't autowin vs dragon anymore? poor sweeties :(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0
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>>553465208
too human for a forest leader but you are right she cute
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>>553465048
White crafts are the thinking man's crafts: Forest, Abyss, Portal.
Brown crafts are the tard play shiny card win crafts: Dragon, Sword, Haven, Rune.
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>>553465048
Gilnelise decks
Midrange decks
Honest board based decks
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>portal player sneaking his class in
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>Gilnelise decks
>Midrange decks
>Honest board based decks
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>>553459521
PvP card games just aren't that profitable unless you are already an established IP like Pokemon, the chinese industry would rather just keep making regular gachas since that's where all the money is at.
Even Shadoba WB would be dead if it wasn't for old Shadoba having an established fanbase from like 10 years ago.
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FUCKING-NERF-SLOTH
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>>553465516
>Portal
>thinking man's craft
lmao, maybe SV1 artifact before it became cancer
WB's portal aka pu**et is braindead trash just like you
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>>553458353
abyssissies are right there
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>>553465669
forgot to mention I only played Spellboost Rune, Dirt Rune, Sword, and Loot Haven when they were tier 1 btw.
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>>553465772
Now I want a chocolate Malisse.
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>>553466068
>spellboost rune
honest, gives you 10 turns to chill and play the game
>dirt rune
honest, not a single card with the keyword "storm"
>evo sword
the most honest and highlighrs the fundamentals of board based shadowverse
>odd haven
well what i can say about this other than there is nothing more honest than spawning 2 drops out of thin air to fight for board

You sir are an exceptional shadowverse player who enjoys interacting with the board of your opponent
And your skin is really white too!!
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Vira!
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>>553466068
>Loot Haven
Broken
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gundam should banish the enemy board
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why are browns the only people obsessed with being brown or not
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>forest almost 200 cr below portal
lol
>let's give portal 1pp banish and infinite 3/3s
lmao, retards
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>>553467802
Forest v portal is easier than forest v dragon i know nobody plays forest in this thread but you really need to go fuck yourself for using the class disgrace to push your class agenda
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>>553467802
they even updated the forest guide for fairy forest...
maybe we are missing some hidden op deck the devs intended
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Dayan has not streamed in one week
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>>553468178
forest vs dragon is such a difficult matchup
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quick
how do I avoid dying to the genesis dragon reborn next turn while also removing the erntz?
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>>553468387
Topdeck velharia
Banish emtz
Draw norman from velharia
Summon golem
GG shake my hand
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>>553468387
you lost the moment you let dragon hit 10pp
now embrace the long dick of genesis
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>>553468251
Yes because dragon is the only nigger class that floods the board non stop while also healing itself and every single one of their nigger cards have infinite stats and intimidate to make removal that much more aids
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>>553468770
Not to mention the infinite 0pp board clear because that's fair
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Is this game worth trying? Is it pay to win as fuck?
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>>553469020
Is not pay to win at all but i wouldn't recommend this to anyone because the person in charge of making decisions is tone deaf
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>>553468178
hi danchou
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>>553469020
Only if you're a masochist, because you "can' get things as f2p, but you have to dedicate yourself to the game as if it was a secondd job.
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>>553468250
roach is a t2 deck now and the other forest decks are unplayable at high ranks
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The transform spell needs to cost more than 1PP. It's literally free right now
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>>553469020
>pay to win
?
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>>553469020
It's pretty good and fun
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>>553469447
>portal needs to be unable to clear my cancer intimidate board!!!
Dragon nigger hands typed this
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>>553469138
I come from a long string of the same
wuwa devs are retarded, they are letting the game die
bf6 devs are retarded, they are letting the game die
arc raiders and the finals devs are retarded, they are letting their games die
czn devs are retarded, but that's just smilegate
supervive devs just gave up
etc
etc
etc

you mean to tell me your devs are ESPECIALLY retarded and not the same as every other dev team?
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>>553469020
it's not pay to win in the traditional sense
but starting out is retardedly slow to incentivize spending on deckboosts (it's not worth it)

also, forget cosmetics if you don't plan on spending, the gacha odds are asinine
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>>553469507
The game had two review bombs and they didn't fix either of the problems that led to those reviewbombs nor did they compensate the players for going through it
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>>553469503
Nice try I am Abyss main instead. Fucking buddy muddied my reanimate pool
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>>553469369
i wish i had a job
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>>553469369
You literally just have to login once a day
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>>553469740
that doesn't sound half as bad as the controversies the other games I listed have had
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>>553469507
>wuwa devs are retarded, they are letting the game die
I don't play wuwa (I'm a zzzgod), but why is kuro letting it die?
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Imari is not OP she's simply the first ever portal legendary that was released with support for her gimmick in the same expansion, the support being all of her 1pp spells of course.
And on top of that she herself supports previously released dogshit archetype called destruction.
She "feels" op probably because this is the first time since launch where portal got cards in one expasion that could actually be used during that same expansion because the only playable deck so far was puppets now it has another one.
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It doesn't matter if Imari is OP because she's cute
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>>553469993
Then you've been beaten enough to endure this kusoge
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>no OP
Let's remove that Fanfare where onahole gets to discard for a spell
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>>553469948
And it'd take 1 month and a half to build a proper competitive deck, which until then the experience of the player would be miserable and no sane person would put up with 1 month of no fun, just play other game at this point.
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>>553470306
He's not going to make it to masters under a month and half though
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>final day of chests
god bless, i can go back to my superior korean and chiense games now

FUCK this japshit
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>>553469503
rent free, go slurp on some genesis cock :D'''''''
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>queue up roach
>dragon perfect ramp into filene into spell + neptune gg smiley face
>FUCKING WARD HAVEN wilbert on 6 aether on 7 as per requested
>egg with 3 eggs ON TURN FIVE, also my godwood is now imari's cute playmate!!
im about to go insane again i want to cry so bad
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>>553469507
>whataboutism
why do you even post?
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Dropped so low with meme decks that game starts matching me with Forest.
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>>553470520
>plays set 1 deck
>loses
what did you expect
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>>553470568
why does it offend you so much that I'm pointing out doomposting is common even in games other than yours
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>0 card left for both players
I hadn't achieved 12 consecutive wins in a long time!
I'm not going any further, that was my last chest for the day
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>>553471082
Yeah but those other games bank dozes of milions every month this game is making much less and player numbers are declining harder and harder it will be long dead before any actual gacha full of doomfags closes down
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>>553469507
We live in a post-hoyo timeline where people have such high expectations for updates after experiencing the high quality of genshin hsr and zzz where every other live service has a really hard time competing
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>>553470084
look there's nothing wrong with OP cards, you don't need to feel guilty or defensive about it, you didn't design this
Erntz is OP, that's cool, I embrace it, just do the same since Imari is OP too
this game is loaded with OP stuff that is not addressed, look at Norman and many others
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I will never understand why retards want to play weak cards
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>>553469482
CERB SEX
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>>553471541
She's literally not though objectively speaking nothing she does hits face and she can be board wiped by a single card from all crafts except forest meanwhile Erntz heals 8 deals 16 to the board and there's no counterplay.
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>>553457958
>fuck up the vialing system to make it incredibly hard for new players to bootstrap themselves into playing a competitive deck
>concentrate most of the power level into leggos and speed run 15+ leggo decks
>rig the only casual event to sell art
>get justifiably review bombed
>release whale bait in response
They've been trying to kill this game at every turn
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>legendary cards are meant to be broken
so where are the broken forest cards
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>>553471687
it's the same type of person who refuses to use summons or mimic tear in elden ring
because shadoba is trivial and you don't need mimic tear to beat it
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>>553471932
They are broken but in a different sense
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>>553471932
hanged man lets you steal cards from good crafts instead i guess
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>>553459227
I'm actually enjoying girls Frontline line a lot. I'm just here too.
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>>553471687
its about aesthetic and gameplay
some people just want to drop ghost ghouls goths and skeletons other people want big fuck you 10 cost cards that swing the game
and some people want to slingshot 50 cards a turn
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>>553471930
wait this doesn't sound that much different from what other popular gachas have done
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blud used the same metaphor 7 seven times in 7 threads in a row :skull:
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>>553471687
By "cards" you mean "crafts"?
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Which way?
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>>553472352
All three! We love ikemen here
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>>553472352
The middle one could be straight, others not so much.
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>>553472352
I'll take one of the 2 hags that showed up instead
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>>553471687
weak or meme? I play meme decks for that 1 in X highroll rush making T1 decks look stupid when I win.
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>>553472352
For me, it was neighbourhood milf.
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>>553469020
It's not p2w. The problem is that the new player experience is ass since it will probably take like a month or so of grinding dailies to amass the cards for one competitive deck. After a month or two you can probably play any individual deck that you want. Maybe multiple if you dolphin a bit and buy the battle passes. Those of us who have been here from day 1 and have only bought the battle passes largely can run all of the decks if we wanted to.

Now might be one of the better times to start though since abyss' milteo.dec is one of the cheapest decks that we've seen in a while since it only runs ~3 legendary cards. It's not tier 1, but it's probably tier 2 or 2.5 which is enough to keep your head above water and get some wins.

You also might consider buying an account from the chinks if you want to secure a collab leader, but I'm not familiar with that process. I only know that some players do it.
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>>553473370
you can pick both dragon decks, craft 2 liu fangs and 2 sloths, craft two garyus with all the freebies and you have a diamond group deck day 1
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>>553469507
Arc raiders will probably get updates. Eventually. The insidious Swede just spends 60% of the year on vacation/preparing for vacations/recovering from vacations. The japs need to have a gun put to their head for them to admit that they've ever made a mistake
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>>553470708
smurfing in shitlow rn
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>>553470443
I've largely been ignoring ladder since I have disliked most of these metas and I've been waiting for my fucking necromancy burial rite decks. People play fully complete tier 1 decks down in A and AA rank. Probably much lower too.
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>>553471687
I just like cute elf girls and fairys
not my fault the devs are retards
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>>553472352
turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>553473370
>Those of us who have been here from day 1 and have only bought the battle passes largely can run all of the decks if we wanted to.
I'm D0 and BP and I may be missing like dozen cards overall. 130K vials for that, saving gold for a week now. I don't even know why I'm buying that gays ass BP. Probably only for card alts like Alliah.
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i am brown
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>>553471932
just compare Yuel to Milteo
pretty broken
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>>553473657
He'd still need to craft some more Justces and stuff like Zooey, filene, galmieux to put together a complete dragon deck. Milteo is probably better than half of a dragon deck.
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hey danchou I need weeklies
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>>553471289
Gosh, Galleon is so fucking hot it's nuts.
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today's chests took me 6 FUCKING HOURS
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>>553455150
youre not me
but thanks
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As a new player should I focus on opening Blossoming Fate packs or just hoard gold for now
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>>553457958
the game's reviews are like 4/5 on the mobile stores. the only thing cygames is telling us is that they don't give a shit about steam (they also probably can't buy positive PR on steam as easily.) despite that steam still has multiple times more players than the original game did.

ive seen the eudie leader more than any other leader this week so im pretty sure the reason theres no new player gibs is that the game is doing too well still and the only thing cygames has learned is that tcg players have an incredibly high tolerance for pain.
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>>553476040
you're gonna need cards from every set to make a competitive deck so open whatever you want
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>>553476089
the mobile review is also low as fuck thoughever
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>>553474840
we know, niggy
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>>553476089
>despite that steam still has multiple times more players than the original game did
No, we are almost back to the original Shadowverse numbers.
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>not rec: 400+ hours
>rec: 20+ hours
lol
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>>553476182
they're often localized scores
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>>553476040
How content are you with your current decks? The main reason to open packs is to accumulate vials and fish for leader tickets. Since you can't vial any cards until you have a playset of a card, then dumping a large sum of gold into one set is a good way to amass vials. But if you're missing a lot of more common cards for a deck then opening some packs can be worth it to avoid having to spend vials on common sets.

You also can consider spending the gold on take2. In theory this can let you multiply your gold's value since, when compared to simply spending gold on packs, you start break even at 2 wins (1000 gold entry fee with 2 wins/2 losses gives you 500 gold and 1 pack. Any wins beyond that is profit). That said a lot of people don't care for take 2 right now, and it has a dumbass skill based matchmaker that tries to push you towards a 50:50 win rate and at 50:50 the current reward structure statistically pays out something like 998 gold of value for every 1000 gold spent if I remember the results of the math autists correctly.

Hoarding gold and waiting to see how the meta shifts isn't the worst thing. Chest events disrupt the meta since it biases a percentage of the playerbase towards fast aggro decks. The meta will stabilize more once we finish a grand prix.
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>>553476709
ło kurwa xD
Yep. Localized.
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>>553476040
skybound slop gives the overall best quality
most decks use 1-2 legendaries from that set and both golds can be used as cope options until you have full decks for new players
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>>553476923
New player won't win shit in t2
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why are we getting new players
isn't the game dying
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>Me and my favorite Shadowbanons
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>>553476405
>back to the same player count
>same gameplay with a power level reset + lobby
Was it worth it, bros?
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>>553477352
dragonbros are finally happy at least
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>>553477352
>+ lobby
absolutely!!
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>>553476405
the current expansion hit an all time about twice the best the original game ever did and they launched it at 2pm on a monday instead of around 7pm~ japan time like they normally do. "almost" is doing some heavy lifting in your post.
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>>553477512
dont bother arguing with numbersfags, they are always retarded
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>>553475250
Hell yeah
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the retarded one is the one that don't know the current steam numbers is jp + global meanwhile the old steam number is only global
or... maybe they do, but chose to omit that fact for the sake of their narrative
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I'm confused
is the game dying or not?
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>>553477205
From Hololive sponsored streams and Frieren collab.
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>>553477798
nyes
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>>553477798
hm nyo "3
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>>553477512
it also lost 50% players between expansions and now we are 17k player peak on weekend.
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>>553477741
OG is available in Japan though
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:3
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losing 50% of the player base each expansion is actually fine because we'll never run out of player like that! math!!
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Ask your chinese masters for new talking points please
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>>553478714
Dragon is broken and needs to be nerfed, what do we nerf?
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uh oh
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>>553478824
Genesis
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no you guys are right. the game sucks, we lose players all the time, every expansion is worse, it'll die and be worse than sv1. you shouldn't even waste your time or energy thinking about such a shit game. let's leave and go play ygo or something
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>>553478974
number guys sadly couldn't be caught dead playing a game with numbers like these
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out for 4 years and having higher concurrent than our game
you sure showed him.....
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I hate steamchart trannies
>DURR I MUST PLAY ONLY GAMES WITH 10000000000 PLAYERS
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you only need 1 other person on discord to play this game
even skull girls and gg2rd is an alive game
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i just like stirring people up in this thread
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get a job
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>>553479509
stir my shit up in the lobby instead, I'll wait by the cardboard thingy
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>>553479534
its sunday. i only have time for this on the lord's day.
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>didnt capitalize the Lord
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get a Job
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let's go see how close are we to finishing himmel's event
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multiple inactives in my guild came back for this event and started playing daily again. lol
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>>553477798
Define a dying game.
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Get a Shadowba gf and do dis
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>>553477128
I don't know who he is. He might have experience with draft environments from other card games.
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>there's another round of chests in 15min
bro come on give me a break
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>>553480353
Ok, and how do I get one of those
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>>553477798
The actual answer to this is that it isn't, but it still failed. They made a new game because they wanted it to be more popular outside of Japan but they fucked up the development massively and just had to shit it out. The game is monetized out the ass now and japs are still playing and paying so it is very likely "doing better" than the original game but also not what they were aiming for.
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>>553480632
just come to 21488 in 15 minutes, it's that simple
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>>553480668
That's simply not true.
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>>553481162
DId you try ?
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>>553477798
the game had "overwhelmingly negative" plastered all over it for nearly half a year
it massively halted growth and new player interest in the west

then came the first scamfest, killing off another massive portion of players
it still seems to be doing well in JP, but they couldn't have botched it harder in the west even if they tried

bonus: the first handful of open tournaments were also a complete shitshow
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they are playing frieren s2 pv on the big screen lol
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>>553481201
Yes
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>>553481349
You can add this expansion 'advertisement' to the list.
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>>553472352
I want to see them all punched in the face
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>>553481707
Then you should dress your park avatar better. You can't go with lame outifts you get from the chest you know.
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>>553480647
It's all their fault. They could have avoided all of this shit by just communicating with the community instead of staying radio silent and refusing to consider that they've made any mistakes.
>complaints about the economy/pack costs
They could have explained that they felt that the economy for a consistent F2P player is fine over time, but that they'd monitor the metrics and consider evaluating the position in a few months.
>complaints about vial changes
They could have increased the value of vialing more common cards so that all of the value isn't in leggos
>complaints about T2
they could have increased the payout structure of T2 a bit so that it isn't like a casino where the long term odds are in the house's favor.
>kuon rigging
This cost us a shit ton of players. Instead of jewing things in the store they could have said that they didn't expect their event as designed to be such an upset, and just given everyone the art.

They also didn't need to be greedy as fuck with the OG leaders. Those easily could have been freebies for linking your SV1 account, and they could have brought over some of our SV1 card sleeves.

They could have done SOMETHING. ANYTHING. But instead they just stayed silent and released more whalebait.
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jackpot
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>>553481349
>kills your game
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>i woudnt seethe for six months straight if they said they love me
Really
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>>553481349
The japs are retarded about saving face. You can't just ignore review bombs and pretend that they go away. You need to do something. That doesn't necessarily mean capitulating to demands, but you need some kind of fucking response. Preferably from a good PR guy with some charts and graphs and not some retarded situation that helldivers had where they allowed Alexus to open his mouth. Maybe throw the players some bones.
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yeah everyone would have kept playing the game if they said sorry. lmfao
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>>553482394
That's what a shadoba gf is for. That I don't have
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>>553481720
qrd?
I only came vack yesterday after quiting in omens
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>>553454768
I look like this
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>>553482350
IIRC, during the first splatfest you couldn't fight players that were on your own team. Fennie's support was MUCH larger than that graph makes it appear. Fennie players were waiting something like 10+ minutes in queues while Kuon/Zwei players had instant queue times.

This debacle was devastating to the casual playerbase that was just chugging along without caring too much about the other complaints.
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>>553482614
They announced like 10 cards before release.
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>>553481349
Still insane they saw those negative reviews and didn't just give everyone all the cards for free, apologized for the sudden upset and moved on.
The game would be review bombed with positive reviews instead they literally killed off all the future of the game in the west to sell the cards in the shp like a bunch of jews this is why i don't feel sorry for this game's failure
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>>553480621
I think it's the last day
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>>553482456
People don't like being insulted
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Fragile negroid ego
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it had nothing to do with queue times
it was literally a case of dumbledore HOWEVER
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>>553483637
You guys seem to love it
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Shadowba is the #2 Card game vidya of the year, let's fucking go.

And as for PokemonTCG Pocket, my hot-take is Pocket is a pale imitation of the actual TCG and TCGLive, which way better. So Shadba is basically #1.
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>>553482350
Zwei secondaries are way worse than kuon-faggots tbqh
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Look into lobby right now if you want depression
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>>553482350
they did our chicken dirty
then put her art on the shop
holy fuck talk about tone deaf

I don't blame anyone for quitting right there and then
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>>553483919
>68m versus.... 669m
The difference between a game that listens to feedback versus a game that ignores it
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>>553484473
pokemon listens to feedback?
lulmiao
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it sure smells like chinks in here
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the soothing of my hurt feelings are all that matters in life
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>>553484305
stop
remembering it is pissing me off again

this was during satan dclimb meta too
liu feng was 4pp still, no wonder ho-chan lost so many fucking matches
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quick, nerf dragon
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>>553482817
ah kk
tbf thats fine I guess
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>>553485017
forestbros it went up by .2%...!
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>>553485017
>71% brown meta
Grim
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>>553485017
>53% Portal meta
But Dragon doing nothing for the first 4 turns is the problem, clearly.
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>>553485017
I can't believe the tutorial, poster, main menu, mascot and the most loli-heavy class is the most popular in the pedophile card game...
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>>553485441
there's more hags and homos than lolis
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>>553485017
>forest up 0.2%
we back
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>>553485441
>loli-heavy
loli-ing at this anon!
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>>553485017
portal dont have to highroll. they are the most consistent deck by far
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The left side is always the side of the protagonist in posters like this, she's also right there with the logo on the left. The game is clearly presenting Portal as the protagonist with the other good guy classes being Forest and Abyss fighting the evil Rune, Sword, Dragon and Haven classes.
Eudie is the tutorial and mascot and a portal card.
Dreizehn is the first main menu everyone has when they open the game and the first story mode and was the poster girl for the game for years before launch.
>HoW CoMe PeOpLe PlAy PoRtAl WhEn ItS FiNaLly GoOd???
I wish i was brown and low iq like the portal haters.
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>>553486225
I have abyss forest and portal as most played. I'm literally the goodest of guy
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>opponents always have multiple imaris in hand before sevo turn
this shit is fucking tiring
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>>553486225
I love evil women
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>>553485441
that is not play rate nor a popularity chart, pedotard
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>>553486568
Yes it is the more people play the more they will climb, the more they climb the higher rank they are.
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>>553486225
purge the good guys!!!
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what is this shit
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It's current year and I lost to Satan dirtboost.
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>I can't believe the tutorial, poster, main menu, mascot and the most loli-heavy class is the most popular in the pedophile card game...
retarded coombrain
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>>553484984
Something to bring back the PTSD
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>>553486781
it's because there's going to be a new battle fest so the weekly mission is changed from knockout table match to that
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>>553486685
Why aren't the decks that counter Nemesis extremely inflated in CR if they're more popular?
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I put these videos here for later
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xL04ut5ppIk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbJT6yZ7Oc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QC2_lpgp818
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>>553487172
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>>553487254
Because there are multiple tier 1 portal decks with different counters. They also all run the same bottom end of the their curve so it's not clear what you're fighting until turn 4-5
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>>553487254
Dragon and sword are right there but most people don't wanna play gay ass dragoncraft
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Turns out playing a suboptimal deck hurts your winrate, who'd have thought? On a 7-win streak now, breaking into epic for the first time this season. Guess my craft __forest__
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>>553487286
Galleon is so damn cute.
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>>553487572
yes we all know card games are 50% your deck, 30% rng and 20% actual skill
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wew
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>>553471687
the reason why shitters can intentionally choose to play shit crafts is to cope that they aren't actually shit at the game but it's the craft that's holding them back
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no I just find my favorite crafts to be fun and play them regardless of powerlevel
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>>553487181
fest so early?
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>>553488114
the collab ends when the balance patch happens so it has to be this month
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>>553485017
egg is quickly going to surpass last set dirt. a lot of the meta decks of this set rely on multiple layers of rng, meanwhile egg is only reliant on draw but it has insane draw engine now. they are a little bit too consistent.
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I just want to play wrath or burial rite. Bring them back. Bring them back!
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>forgot about scamfest
oh right, I guess that's happening
>forgot about himmel event
how's that one going
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>>553488303
my favorite poster!!!
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>>553488371
>how's that one going
Extended lmao
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>ER deck that spams autoevos and ends with Lilanthim+Sandal
>ER deck that spams guardian golems and ends with Sandal and Oguri
>Spellboost coc
>Spellboost wam
>Fool
Does any other craft have as many viable decks?
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>>553488398
noooo ><
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>>553488596
they're all mediocre this set, especially fool, wam, oguri and lilanthim
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>>553488596
protal can run 20 diferent imari variants
imari with artifacts
imari with eggs
imari with evo
imari with storm slop
imari with puppets
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yup, another win for the good guys!
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>>553488763
>evo
>shartifacts
lmao two garbage decks without support
>storm
>puppets
same thing
>egg
ok
So it's 2 decks got it
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yay Ame-kun is here
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the portal downplay is crazy
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>>553488596
>Mod
>Belial
>Midrange
>4 of a kind
>Milteo
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Pretending fool is a real deck while artifacts isn't lmfao
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>>553488303
You should come to the lobby more often
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gimme the goddamn chests
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when does the chest event end?
i hate it
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>>553489654
it said the 12th which should be today in japan so i think this is it
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>>553489136
Fool is the only deck that has a chance of killing dragons
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>still thinking dragon is the problem
>60% portal ladder
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>>553471541
none of those cards are overpowered. they're strong. imari is a strong card.
overpowered cards would need a nerf, but nothing in this set needs a nerf.
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>>553490152
imari's transform should not hit amulets because it limits design space
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>>553488963
how's your grind? are you enjoying this season?
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>>553490226
I am greatly enjoying this set, I love the variety and am crafting multiple decks to try things
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any sex fox friendly guild looking for a player?
got gm but stopped playing in omen
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>>553490636
what exactly does that even mean
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>rune broken
>everyone universally agreed last set that rune was fucked up and broken

>portal broken
>uhh actually it is strong but not gamebreaking, having a 1pp spell hard removal transform silence is just simply good but not "that good", it takes lots of skill to evolve your imari and dump all your spells
>trying to pull the biggest mental gymnastics to not get this shit nerfed
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>>553490636
Sorry, we hate sex foxes in particular
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>>553490708
no idea
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>rune
bad guy
>portal
good guy

simple as
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>>553490636
I'm a danchou and I'm planning to play sv1 next month since tempo forest with sekka will be in rotation, does that count?
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>>553490636
I can kick someone who's been gone for 30+ days
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>>553491065
468340051757 is my id I forgot how guilds work not sure if I have to apply first
I play mostly forest tho so you will have a ruby shitter
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why do people still play ward haven when the entire deck dies to a single filene?
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>>553491021
Based i kneel
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>>553490925
Hello fex sox poster <3
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>>553491278
havensissy just want to ruin someone's day. ward haven can still do that
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the good portal deck doesn't even do much with imari because their objective is creating eggs. she's just a tutor
it's puppet that floods with her and puppet is trash because it turns out one 3/3 surviving a turn isn't the end of the world
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>>553491247
so do I, I was ruby when I hit gm this season, was a bit sad. sent.
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>>553491278
that's not saying much if you could put your entire deck on the board at the same time every single deck would get wiped by filene
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>>553491551
except other decks can do things outside aether
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>>553490152
That 2pp:delete aggro card that dragon has needs a nerf.
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>>553491830
you wish
just play your bats retard
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>uses filene spell before cuckishiro turn
Absolute nigger
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rikka (current top2 -2100cr) is playing eggspuppets
saw him today on maito's stream
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can I just quit matches until I spawn a chest? does it work?
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>>553491830
2pp win the game is fair xdd
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opponent played his card at the appropriate time to counter me? fucking nigger
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>>553491830
Compare that card to Valiant Edge and it's no wonder why Abyss is as shit as it is
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Vampy
2PP 2/2
Fanfare: Take 2 damage and summon a bat.
Evolve: Gain a permanent Crest: When you take damage on your own turn, summon a bat.
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>>553492505
>2pp lose the game
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bro still thinks they're gonna print a vampy card
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>>553492505
This is fucking dogshit so it would be in Forest actually
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>>553491830
Why does it get to ping face for free
The sloth spell is LITERALLY 2pp piercing rune
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>maito dropped from 2025cr to 1906cr with loot today
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>>553492653
Are you implying Abyss is good?
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>>553492824
Abyss gets good legendaries
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another win for the good guys
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>>553493506
>sneaky ambush
you're the bad guy
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cute girls with ambush - good guys
hags men and animals with ambush - bad guys
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I wish a group of cute girls would ambush my anoose
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>>553492063
Not sure if it does work anymore, perhaps but you'll receive a rank points deduction like the anon before who posted a lot of penalty points. I think it was -200. I vaguely remember.
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2 games of the tourney, 2 games where they have 2 eggs by turn 4
off to a good start!
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honestly Frieren is kinda growing on me
love her twintails
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ESPADA GALAXIA
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another win for the bad girls
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bros I fucking suck with milteo, does anyone have any advice
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>>553494987
hit face
draw milteo
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my opponent just played a late kukishiro that summoned a fox for me and nothing for him and then he conceded
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>>553494949
he played Erntz, it can't be
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What kind of decks/play patterns that consistently beat dragon?
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>>553495436
if aria didnt dodge entz dmg I would have lost tbf
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>>553492746
What sword list is he playing?
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>>553495818
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>>553485441
there's only 1 loli in that image
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>>553495951
praycraft
not as in haven
as in pray they brick
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How come the lobby is always dead when I'm online.
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we smell you coming and change to the secret lobby
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>>553496398
we're in stealth mode hiding in the tree and drag any unsuspecting newcuties inside
if you hear muffled moaning sounds coming from a shaking tree, run
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>>553496398
i leave when you come online sorry
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This is fine.
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>>553496626
you have aether next turn what are you even complaining about
>filene
my condolences
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>>553496626
we should be able to blacklist 1 craft for ladder
so dragon niggers can jerk off with their overpowered bullshit on a seperate ladder
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>dragon got only cards buffed that they already played
>portal got only cards buffed that they already played
>forest got only cards buffed that nobody played
hm smart devs
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>6pp
dragon can use their 6pp and 1 evo point to get 10/10 in stats + rush + 2max playpoints
isnt this too strong?
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>>553496765
How will Aether help against Erntz's 18 burn damage?
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>>553495882
normal loot with 2 oluons 1 odin, and he killed 3 unko spells for 2 zirconias and 3rd valse
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>>553496626
to be this lucky is a one out of 100 games so fuck off and be happy we didn't shoot all haven niggers after the crest meta
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hahahahahahahhaha
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>>553497310
you'll be the same niggers after this set nigger
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>even cqcq killed unko spells from his loot list
damn
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ho-chan should be a 1/1
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>one out of 100 games
As if dragon's """"lowroll"""" they do every single game is less cancerous
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I'm on 15 games 1 chest spawn and every game is so fucking frustrating I don't think I can do it anymore
I'm tapping out....
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HOLY SHIT I GOT 500 RUPIES FROM THE BIG CHEST AND NOT 150 VIALS
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>surprise surprise cheating out pp is cancerous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec4YbVP9R-A
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>>553496626
unrelated but galleon a shit
cut her from your ward deck
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>whole class identity (except maybe storm from SV1) is to be as obnoxious to play against as possible
>cries when the tables turn
oh I'm enjoying this a lot, just turn 4 marwin evo bro ahah
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>dragoncuck ramps into getenou
>highrolls into 0pp neptune
>there's now two 8/8s on the board
fuck this class
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the only honest craft is portal
forest is dishonest just weak
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>>553497886
Sure buddy, after you post your ward haven CR I will
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Chances they nerf Liu Feng?
seems way to overstatted for her ability
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another win for the good girls
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chest events killed the game
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>>553498280
>late galmieux
you lucky fucker
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okay i thought yesterday was the last day for chests but i got 200g again from the big chest so it still ended up being every day. i probably got close to 4000 gold when all was said and done from this chest event
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>>553498387
tbui
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>>553498071
Just remove the overflow ability
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>>553492063
In sv1, it wouldn't give you a new dice roll until after a certain turn. I think you have to wait until Evo turn
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>>553494649
I love her racism.
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>>553492063
yeah it still works if you disconnect at the matchup screen after getting an opponent

the rates are dogshit though so expect to get 8 to 30 penalty games before a chest pops up
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why is the Stark leader so fucking ugly lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJIfpz6mGU
Shadoba milf gf...
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what the fuck happened to rune
they were busted and everywhere last set
is it that bad against dragon/portal that their high playrate made rune disappear?
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>>553499461
rune got literally nothing this set so became tier 2
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imari or unkei
either ways I win
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>>553499652
unko because it 's not fair i got two unko while having to go to pity for imari
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another win for the old hags
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I swear I always lose the first round in a tournament thanks to some bullshit rng.
>use lampcraft
>beat havenfucks ass early
>on a big momentum
>end up never pulling erntz even with fenni
>lose
>ragequit tournament
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Portal
>Sincerity can only target friendly cards

Dragon
>2pp spell goes to 3pp
>Ocean rider loses the overflow ability

Sword
>Congregant does 2 damage rather than 3 and only gives you the Boots

Would this do enough? Assuming Lego nerfs are off the table of course.
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>neptune
>erntz
>neptune
>erntz
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>>553499817
too bad it was imari

unrelated question: any fun portal decks that are not metatroonery?
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>>553497985
The dragon that I played against last night gighrolled getenou into 0pp Jerry and 0pp Satan.
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>>553499927
artifact
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>>553499927
artifacts fun
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>>553499927
I saw some evo portal with Slaus and the 2pp ward that evolves when you play spell, but I don't know the list and it obviously ain't getting winstreaks to be on shadoba-wins.
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>>553499461
It's just slow and people are busy grinding chests. Expect dirt to snap back with a vengeance tomorrow.
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>>553500171
Slow decks spawn chests almost every game thoughbeit
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>>553500297
proof?
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>>553500479
I've got 5 chests within 7 mode abyss games, don't know how you want me to prove it.
Chest spawn chance is 100% affected by the length of your matches, because I went on 5-games winstreaks without seeing any chests multiple times playing turbo aggroslop.
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what's that website with a spreadsheet of number of times beyond/ultimate/etc decks have of each card?
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why would I ever use this when roach is cheaper more versatile and starts with a whir while using up 1 less board slot?
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>>553501154
https://svlabo.jp/blog-entry-1547.html
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>>553501215
because roach is rotating out next set you retard
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>>553501285
thanks anon
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>>553500840
so you're a schizo assuming your anecdote must be the law. thanks was just checking
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>>553501215
its not a bad card its just a bit overcosted
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>>553499419
>Shadoba milf gf...
I would kill for this
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I haven't missed a chest since release
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I've skipped a few on days I felt like shit
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Total chest haul:
3000 Rupies
1250 Vials
1 Legendary
7 Golds
2 Pack tickets
I forgot to track the first day so there's sleeves + icon + 3 rewards not mentioned here, they were all 100-200 rupies or 50-100 vials though
Not bad desu
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>>553501501
Do you want a medal?
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>>553501430
is it?
I tried it a few times and it always feels like a tempo black hole
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I want Serie as a leader next Frierin collab
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>>553501658
well yeah again because of the cost, if it was 4pp or it summoned 2 fairies (to make up for the 2 damage loss for not evoing something to face) it would be better. the effect itself is good, I wouldn't call the card terrible
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>clear the dragon board every turn
>doesnt matter since he just kills you over 2 turns with storm
damn this is very fun and interactive i wish my craft had ward or heal as an option
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>>553501685
no hags in portal please
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is it normal for the artifact deck to be so bottom heavy?
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imari's bottom heavy butt on my cock
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>>553501974
*haven
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>>553501930
My craft consists of wards and heals and it still doesn't help against dragoniggers.
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>>553501803
i mean your suggestion is good but there is an insane difference between 5pp 5/5 stats with a potential 9/9 + 2 leader dmg vs
4pp 6/6 stats with an potential 11/11 on evo + 4 leader dmg
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>>553502160
well yeah that's why I said or not and
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Portal in sv1 has one of THE sexiest hags in the game. So If they bring hags to portal again it needs to be top tier
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>>553502054
well yeah ideally there'd be no hags in any class but i'm talking about the one serie is in. haven got the dude whose name i forget.
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>>553499461
yeah eggs and all the ramp dragon decks both love playing against dirt so people are playing different varieties of spellboost but they're pretty greedy and lose a lot into aggro.
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>>553499927
Artifact (with Imari cards)
It's off-meta but it's fun and more than good enough, I wouldn't even call it a meme deck it's genuinely one the best off-meta decks out there
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>Thanks to Puppet being tier 0 I don't run into it anymore down here in Ruby.
Feels good man, I can play Ward Haven in peace.
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>>553502289
oh mb missread that
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>>553502642
its ok anon
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nice FUCKING game
fix your shit, retards
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>>553502784
everyone is playing their favorite craft now that it's viable for the first time in half a year. seems fixed to me.
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>>553502687
thanks danchou
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>>553503270
no problem anon
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Another win for the good guys coming up!
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>>553502784
lets see the rest of the lobby
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>>553499863
Should probably also push Imari to 3pp but otherwise that sounds good.
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>>553502829
based
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>>553499461
Fool is a huge meme with a garbage matchup chart
New stormboost cards are decent but pretty high-rolly and still vulnerable to boardclear
Dirtboost is simply outdated at this point it can't keep up with the new stuff
Dirt is still good but it gets eaten alive by dragon
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>>553502829
God Cerb is so cute.
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>>553499863
>Portal
>>Sincerity can only target friendly cards
Back to tier 50 unable to clear any intimidate cards or wilbert
Portal needs no nerfs
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>>553503423
bad girl zeta...
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>>553503919
Sorry anon, it will happen again... Check this out though it just happened now!
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>always been the most popular craft
>abismally dogshit since launch not even pros could stomach playing it
>finally becomes playable this set
>"people" who don't like it won't stop crying
Portal won
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doesnt dragon completely shit on portal?
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>>553182623
just rembered u when I saw this in my meme folder
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>>553504335
Depends.
Ho-chan beats Eggs but loses hard to Puppets.
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I love this card bros
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>>553504381
better ver
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>>553502054
that's not saren
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SusbeFEDe_s
Newcutie haven gf...
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>>553504335
ho-chan is favored vs eggs and it's a huge selling point for the deck, but it's not an unplayable matchup by any means. Ho-chan loses to itself most of the time anyways
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>>553504909
and evo dragon is favored against puppet
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Yattaaaa! I made it to 1600 for the second time ever!
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>>553505085
good job anon
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>>553505126
Thank you very much anon!
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>>553505018
I don't see that many evo dragon olayers anymore, it's all chicken casino or wilnas cheese
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>>553505312
i find this one really curious because a lot of pro players swear that deck is t1 good but i never see it and when i do it seems really bad. i cant tell if im missing something or they're just coping.
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>>553505085
But that's the starting point...?
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>>553505568
Uhhhh... I'm not very good at the game.
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>>553505312
because it loses to ramp/hochan
and at top level, it seems puppet is considered as a tier2 deck so you won't find it as much as lower rank
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Holy moly fuck this class he was one 0pp AOE damage(balanced btw) from winning
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>MOOOOOM A TIER 2 DECK ALMOST BEAT MY TIER 0 DECK ITS NOT FAIR
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>>553505085
Congrats bropipi
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>>553505412
What decks do you play?
It's the best flavor of dragon vs puppets and sword but it HARD loses to ho-chan and storm ramp dragon and is underwhelming vs eggs
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>7 game winstreek into 7 game loss streak
Perfectly Balanced.
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What if we just gave dragon the best early game and the best late game and just let them skip the midgame
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then they would be the third best craft
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>>553506526
Dragon definitely doesn't have the best early game.
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>dragon
>best early game
you're deluded
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Portal players spend the entire game in tier 1 or tier 2 and get buffed the moment they become slightly underpowered and act like they get treated the same way as forest.
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>liu feng changes happened 2 sets ago
>no one cared except for dragon mains that complained abut it being useless
>is now public enemy #1
WTF happened?
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If dragon has sloth I lose
If they don't I win
Coincidence?! I THINK NOT!
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>>553506218
it feels like ramp and eggs are a lot of the ladder at the moment is all. i do agree the matchups you described are good i just dont see them all that much but ive just been rotating thru crafts to epic during the chest event.
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>>553505767
Just teasing my future danchou
Good job!
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>>553506808
Yeah people who are saying Portal was bad just didn't play Portal, it's been at least tier 2 for pretty much every set except for that brief period before they buffed Zwei.
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>>553506826
Double Liufeng at 6pp is the most retarded thing in the entire game when you get the most broken 10pp card in the entire game and it completely negates any downside of ramping.
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>>553506826
I mained ho-chan ramp in sets 2 and 3
Liu feng from 4 to 3 would have done absolutely fuckall for the deck, the deck had no early game and no payoff even when you did manage to drop ho-chan somehow
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>>553507169
Thank you! Also wow If you'd like I can kick an inactive for you now too!
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>>553455150
we are now full, you don't need to post this on my behalf when I'm not around anymore because of that. I appreciate it though, whoever you are
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No class is allowed to have any downside ever unless you're forest then you have all downsides and no upsides. Now play your blob of storm healing.
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>>553506826
Let me explain the Liufeng timeline
>Set 1 came out, card is fine. Decent piece of Lamp if a little weak for a 4 drop but it ramps so it's good, also autoevolves. Dragon is a Tier 3 deck but playable
>Set 2 comes out, same situation but Fish pushes Dragon into tier 2.5, decent deck.
>Set 3 drops, then buffs roll out, Dragon is worse than it was even during set 1.
>Liufeng -1pp enables very little, enables exactly Double liufeng on 6pp and Sign + Liufeng on 6pp, it's okay but double LIufeng wasn't saving you from any of the faster decks raping you for trying to Lamp and the shit you were lamping into didn't help, you're just ramping into shit like Twilight Dragon(lol) or Genesissy
>Set 4 drops, Dragon is once again a Z-tier deck with only a handful of niches, almost as bad as Forest currently is.
>Set 5 drops, Dragon is now tier 1 thanks to having a really good 10 drop to Ramp into. Double ramping with Liufeng skips you from 6 to 8pp which means you can coin that shit out next turn, dropping an Erntz on turn 6 if you highroll.
As a Dragonkek from day 1, Liufeng's buff only really started to matter now and I still wish the disdain shitters got buffed instead since the liufeng double ramp is incredibly gay.
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>>553506826
>ramp
>turn 5 liu feng evo+liu feng free evo
>turn 6+1pp play 10 drop win the game
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>>553507770
I also play with dragon on multiple expac, and I must say zooey > liufeng most of the time except for double liufeng on t6 going 2nd
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>>553506195
Thanks a ton bropipi gobu!
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Pretty funny how dragon is in the gutter for 4 entire sets (much worse overall than forest btw which was tier 1 in sets 1 and 2) and no one bats an eye but now that it finally becomes competitive everyone loses their shit

I get it ramp highroll is degenerate gameplay but just how hypocritical can you fags be, you just like to shit on whatever tier 1/2 decks you don't play don't you
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the good thing about imari is that she is used in all portal decks so using her leader doesn't cause dumb stuff like orchis playing artifacts
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orchis was an artifact card until this set though
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>>553507483
I would like to help my current guild to make it to S+, but I'll leave at the start of the next set since it will probably die by then.
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just use cute senpai leader
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>>553506826
no one cares about this kuso card that will rotate out next set they need to nerf sloth because it just auto wins the early game and allows free ramp
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>>553507961
Agreed.
If rotation happens next set I'll be very glad to see Liufeng and a bunch of shit go. Card is stupid and very rarely feels good to play, even this set where it feels broken I just feel bad for my opponents for losing to me drawing the nuts.

>>553508153
It's not even the most degenerate deck we've had at a top spot. That still goes to Set 2 Satan Dclimb and set 3 loot.
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>>553508372
you mean set 4 loot because of zeta bea
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*crest
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I can't believe Cerberus is gonna rotate out eventually bros...
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>>553508441
Oh right yeah, Set 4 loot gets to run 6 Odins and didn't have to deal with any big new defensive cards like Glin was.

>>553508550
I haven't seen her at all since this set started, I kind of miss her even if she did piss me off from time to time.
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If the chest event isn't fixed next set I quit
If rotation is next set I quit
If portal is nerfed I quit
Simple as
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>>553508286
Ganbare! I'll keep saving a slot for you just in case you do leave and wanna join.
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>>553507770
I'm 50k MP playing 90% dragon and double liu feng into coin justice has happened to me exactly once and maybe 1 opponent pulled it off too
It's high roll BS but it's not as problematic as you make it out to be, coin Imari into full board on turn 4 is abou the same level of bullshit bit happens more often
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>>553508651
cerberus SEVO heal 6 is a joke now that erntz can heal 8 without any evolution points
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>>553508724
unfathomably based
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>>553508910
Yeah it's super high roll and Imari is much, much worse. Just explaining why people don't like it. The more common scenario is double Liufeng into a "safe" Ho-chan or something along those lines where the extra PP is kind of wasted but does still give you spare PP for an extra low cost dude on-top of your usual play for that turn.
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Holy MOLY my first epic too!
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I just... bricked as egg?
like not a single egg generated in 6 turns
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>>553509117
I know who you are.
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>>553508759
I'll 100% leave on the 1st day of the next expansion, but you don't have to hold the slot. I can wait for the next inactive, there's no other guild I'd join anyway.
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I just lost to Erntz -> Erntz -> Getenou into drawing shark and Forte.
This is as uninteractive as Satan + DClimb.
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>>553509176
You do only have 6 generators, it's not THAT unlikely.
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>>553506661
>>553506526
Dragon doesn't have the best early game. They have the perfect COUNTER to anyone trying to do anything early game. There is a difference.
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The way dragon and portal are right now is like if when buffing forest they uncap Krulle's healing so just placing her on a full board heals for 5 and eradicating arrow heals for whatever your combo is. Just take the biggest weakness and get rid of it.
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>>553509089
It's not even that unreasonable. Rotation next set is ridiculous, way too fucking early. It's not a realistic possibility and if they somehow do it there's no reason to trust them.
Nerfing portal after not nerfing all sorts of other things would be them sticking the middle finger to me so I'll just stick it right back at them.
The only one I think might happen is the chest event but I'll send feedback begging them to fix it, because I don't want to quit, but losing hours for ten days in a row every two months is stupid.
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You don't need to farm all the chests, you know
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I don't need to play this game either. Their choice.
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>>553509620
or you can just apply a freelance project with that time for chest grind and buy BP since premium BP gives you a lot more than >>553501570
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>>553509404
I'd agree if you were allowed to play 6 copies of Sloth but right now Dragon only has 2 real good cards for turn 1-2. It's like the 3rd or 4th best early game deck but it's not like Sword or Portal which are definitely much better early game.
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>>553509264
Powerful...
>>553509270
When you go saying stuff like that how can I not save a slot for you though. It's totally fine in my books anyways. I'll be glad to have you join in the next set!
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>>553506826
At the time, Dragon lacked good shit to ramp into at 10 and they were vulnerable to being rushed down by aggro during the early turns while they were ramping. Both problems have been solved with Justice doing everything at 10pp, and and a mix of Sloth and an embarrassingly egregious amount of Orcas shutting down any kind of early aggression.

Anyone with a brain knew that sending Liu Feng to 3pp was gonna be a problem once the rest of the card pool is fleshed out.
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>>553509441
Rotation isn't even confirmed and anons are gonna rile themselves up over it for 2 months
Cygay would try to soften the blow by announcing shit ahead of time, like future battlefest changes after the 1st battlefest bombed
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>>553509767
Your orcas?
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TENKA MUNI
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when you dont have the jp seed ;_;
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>>553509989
TENKA MUHI
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>>553509384
but I thought it was supposed to be an invincible unbeatable tier 0 deck?
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>>553506826
Non-dragon mains laughed at the change too.
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>>553509927
I am talking about the 2pp Orca spell. You really want to Dragon Sign on turn 3, and while you can include Yube and Orca Rider, they're not genuinely insane for their PP cost the same way Sloth and the 2pp Orca spell is. We have a bunch of other 3 drops that compete with those 2.
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so why exactly eggs over puppets?
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>>553510464
It's more fun.
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>>553502343
What about Ubel?
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>>553510464
it has healing and draw
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>>553510464
you can do nothing and win like crest haven
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>>553510464
Puppets doesn't do as well against aggro since it cant heal and it has only one chance to win that requires super evolution. Eggs has the best card draw in the entire game, constant healing, constant damage, Imari, the best board clear, and can just kill you with Beelzebub without even using a super evolve.
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WBaby here, what should I look forward to in forest after roach is taken out back? Is there any other interesting play style?
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>>553510464
Puppets is just worse sword with less storm egg at least requires thinking
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>>553511127
Literally nothing because they haven't even started to add cards for the other gimmicks so when they finally do add one it will be an unfinished pile of shit with 4 cards like every other forest deck that isn't roach.
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>>553511127
>what should I look forward to in forest after roach is taken out back?
nu-roach
>Is there any other interesting play style?
no
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>>553502018
They manufacture the higher cost cards
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>>553511127
getenou izudia OTK
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>>553510464
Puppets has been the only viable portal deck since launch now destruction is also viable for the first time of course people will rather play the new thing instead of the same old
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>>553511127
tempo is the real answer with the cards we have
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>>553511649
Tempo seems kind of close to being a real deck.
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>>553508153
What other craft gets a 2PP deal 4 damage to the board and also can smack your face late game? Abyss needs to pay 4PP for that shit
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>>553511649
>tempo without twinkletoes
>tempo without roach
>tempo without Aria

Tempo is fucking dead too.
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just lost to a faggot sword player in tournment winning coin flip on fucking 7/7 retarded card in first round

now im holding every signle game hostage and doing max turn timer every single turn not playing to win playing to stall
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>>553511127
More roaches (Sekka, Ladica, Magachiyo, Castelle, Loxis or Hozumi)
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>>553511972
Roach with tits... Intriguing.
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>>553511797
Rune gets one.
And if we're just talking about 2pp deal 4, Forest, Abyss and Sword also get one.
The thing that makes sloth good is that it hits for 2 damage twice, which lets you kill every 2 drop in the game, including shit like Lancetrooper. It has a minor downside of being RNG later though so I personally consider it equal to Alchemic Flare.
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>>553511957
Yeah, swordfag is dishonoraburu and will use that to cheat out an easy win
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Surely if there actually is a rotation then they'll print a ton of new cards to fill in the gaps and give a new solid foundation... Surely....
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>>553512318
My shadoba hag wife is real and she's Chinese!
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>>553512337
lol
lmao
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>>553512318
need to breed
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roach should look like this
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that's a spider tho
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>>553512171
Here's the thing. Sloth's ability to hit two followers (or focus on one) makes it extremely flexible in finishing off dying followers. They should have fixed it so that it either hit a follower once or requires Overflow for the second hit
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>>553512318
Chinese hags owe me sex
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>>553512653
Yeah being able to snipe your opponents 1 and 2 drop is kind of insane, and while the RNG can sometimes fuck you over it's generally worth while.
Kind of wish they moved the second 2 damage ping to Overflow and the 2 burn to baseline.
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>>553512337
Most classes are only losing a couple cards that are going to be easily replaced by something new. Forest is the only class that is going to be unplayable because every set has given them nothing but useless shit so 90% of their decks are still from set 1.
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>>553512845
>Go over base set
>Forest loses most of it's good cards
>Rune loses some of it's better spell boost and dirt cards
>Sword loses a bunch of it's best early game pieces + Albert
>Dragon loses Forte and Genesis(and Olivia)
>Puppets lose all their good cards
>Abyss loses Crypt
>Haven loses Jeanne
Maybe rotation would be a good thing...
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Sloth to 3pp
Sincerity to 2pp
Worlds of Games to 2pp
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>>553513521
>>Dragon loses Forte and Genesis(and Olivia)
thank god rotation can't come soon enough
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>>553513621
It's so funny seeing people seethe about Genesis man.
You're not exactly wrong for disliking it but it's also spent so much of it's life span being a dogshit card.
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>>553513521
I don't want to lose Jeanne...
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breeded successfully
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I don't want to lose john...
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>>553513618
world of games should be 1pp but it should only work with 1pp cards and it should be immune to destruction effects so eggs cant draw 4 with 3pp.. It should be a card that you use for low cost tempo decks that are going to use a ton of 1 cost cards not just slot into everything because it's better than every other draw for everyone.
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I like genesis (it's fun to slam and super evolve it and it's a cool ass dragon!)
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>>553513824
they always reprint cards after they rotate out
expect dark jeannu (exchange ticket leader version)
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>>553514076
Galm would wear black pantsu.
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>>553514246
Galm would go commando.
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she's gonna save ward next set
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>>553514060
It's not the first time they print a broken 1pp neutral draw amulet that is abused by 1 craft. Last time they made it 2pp and it worked.
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>>553507609
even more of a reason to post it
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>>553514481
2pp world of games would be a pretty huge nerf, should fix the card.
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What if we discuss how to nerf portal cards instead??
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>fediel has no sorry emote
>nio is an asshole and every emote is BM
>Diawl
fuck...I'll have to buy Luna or I'll have to be a meanie every match...
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>>553514638
nyo
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>>553514814
Please just make Imari cost 3 and make the 1pp transform spell only target allies.
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>>553514836
aura???
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>>553514836
You can't go wrong with Luna
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>>553514836
Roll for Bellial to have 5 homoerotic emotes
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>>553514836
play aura
she's also a meanie
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>>553514960
I don't care about frieren

>>553514976
I wanted to buy Erika instead...
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>>553514836
What about BP leader?
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>>553515048
what are his emotes like?
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>>553515046
Get Erika then anon... That's more important than only getting Luna since she's the only leader besides Diawl that is nice and can talk.
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abyss players are ASSHOLES

meanwhile haven players... they are all nice and cozy.....
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People like to talk about the lack of Necromancy and Last Words in Abyss but can we talk about how there hasn't been even ONE bat generator printed since Legends Rise?
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>>553515241
stop flirting with havenmains in every bread...
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shut the fuck up BA retard. I'll rope you every turn
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>>553515252
That's a good thing consider how bats interact with the evo package.
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>>553515252
>unaware of the bat archetype coming up
its me, vania!!
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>>553515241
Oh, I guess I'll stop being nice then. Oh well, didn't realize I was supposed to be an asshole...
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>>553515241
Odd Haven is fucking cancer.
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>>553515204
I also bought Arisa but I barely touched forest lmao
Maybe Luna's next since I already have a good list of sword leaders anyway
I even like Silvarius (I love jobbers)
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS! I got her on the way to the hard pity chest! I think I'll grab fully animated gin yuzu now!
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>>553515464
sorry imma be rolling into triple birds rn take this jannu and 12 to face
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>>553515357
Based havenCHAD putting BAjeet in his place
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>>553515614
Nice anon, still going for mine...wish me luck!
I'm glad for you
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he's actually kinda cool...
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>>553515464
You cannot say this when milteo abyss is literally stronger and less interactive than roach
>6 spells that deal 3 face damage

>>553515614
Hey....
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>>553515730
Thank you! I'll be praying for your success!
>>553515804
Not happening since you called all Abyss players ASSHOLES...
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Haven mains are for Abyss mains exclusively
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>>553485017
didnt play in a whi
what did i miss, why is sw*rd pretending to be bad nwo
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Sword has been treating me very well this set. I think I'll actually try to push for 500 wins on it before I go back to Abyss.
>>553516126
TRUE!
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>>553515614
congrats. I'm happy for you
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>>553485017
This is bloated by bot reselling accounts. In Emerald, you'll probably encounter a ton of them who just idle or barely do any inputs
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>>553516751
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>>553516689
Thank you anon!
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>>553516815
I don't speak spanish
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cygames will miss the nerf target entirely and hit lishenna to 5pp
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>>553517134
>giving out free 10500 vials to everyone
Suuuuure
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what nerfs?
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>>553517134
They'll nerf the spell to make it a 2/2.
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>>553517206
Vials don’t matter as much as they will pivot to cosmetic income via collabs like frieren
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THE STRONGEST
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I've had enough, FUCK this game
and FUCK the people who made it

enjoy eos
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>>553517794
seeya tomorrow
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>>553517794
good riddance
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>>553517794
Take care
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>>553517794
>sword player loses his mind when their storm rape deck is not tier 1
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>>553517794
holy
portal is the problem btw
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>>553518306
he actually is sword too is the funniest part, you can tell cause of the two yellow pixels on the side of the screen
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>doesn't quit when Rune is T0
>doesn't quit when Sword is T0
>quits the single time Dragon is T1
Hmmmm....
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>>553518887
lol



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