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[PoE 2]
>New league: Druids
https://pathofexile2.com/druids
>Ongoing 0.4 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212

[PoE 1]
>Keepers of the Flame
https://www.pathofexile.com/keepers
>Ongoing 3.27 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes
>Compiled links, tools and utilities
https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt

Last portal >>553414324
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Poop of Excrement 2.

Debate me.

You won't.
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comparison is the thief of joy
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niGGGer OP
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I like both games :)
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Have enough for a rakiata's now but debating if I should just upgrade my gear instead. Most of my stuff is only 5-10 div besides the 2 uniques I'm using which are cheaper.
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worst poo1 skill is conversion trap
what is the worst poo2 skill?
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>>553542684
everything.
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>>553542684
concucktion skills
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no tub op? i shan't partake
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dogshit op kill yourself
also
poo2? tubbed to shit
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poe2 feels like a fever dream honestly.
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man I want to play sunder but it's sooooooooooo dogshit on ssf. every time I try playing it I always end up deleting the character 2-3 levels after I start using it because it feels so fucking bad.
I tried everything, more damage less ias, more ias less damage, more aftershocks etc nothing seems to make it feel good to use and do respectable damage. add on top of this if I don't have a good mace it's just worse than fucking mace striking.
why is it that some skills are just so shit and jank to use. I really hate how they are making some skills completely dogshit in the campaign.
I remember in poe1 I just got the skill I wanted to use and it just worked. sure I could modify it to do extra or different things but it worked by default. in poe2 some skills just can't be played unless you meet some check boxes. the game just feels so shit when I can't play what I want.
I'll wait until they change all this shit, surely they'll modify and improve skills until release, right?
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>>553545442
it does good dmg but will never be useable due to the animation
>hurrr jump way into the air every attack

also gotdaym this demone is thick
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how do i get more upgrade rooms? :(
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>>553546401
idk im not even allowed to have any rooms other than commanders
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What's the best method to farm temple energy to just build it out as fast as possible?
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>>553547956
holtem
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>>553545442
Remove your mace, put on a Talisman, turn into a bear and slam shit.
Same gameplay, except actually good. Bear is just better Warrior. In fact Warrior is probably the best start location to play bear even because it scales armor so absurdly hard and Titan is unironically goated for it.
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>>553545442
Shield Wall unironically saved Warrior this league. Without it nobody would be playing the class/maces (bear notwithstanding. you ain't a Warrior, you a furry nigga)
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>>553546806
only if you run the architect. you don't run him, i have run this temple for like 40 times already
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>>553553604
well it was just as strong in 0.3. warrior didn't change from 0.3 to 0.4, kitava got buffed but who the fuck plays kitava and for what purpose outside campaign. everyone respecs to either titan or wb depending on what they want to play.
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>>553554870
I mean in comparison to the comically op shit other builds can do like cockmet it's a fucking dead class
(((melee))) in general is such a joke. you play it for rp reasons or something. anyone wanting to make currencies in any serious way doesn't play maces
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>>553545442
there's been a lot of poe1 skills over the years that were total complete useless garbage when starting fresh
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why are so many people using one with nothing with weapons and gloves? Like...most of them lol
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remember what they took away from you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1YbOpfElPs&t=12213s
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Melee is for campaign only gamers.
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>>553556132
>"big combo! BOOOM!"
>monster takes like 3% damage
did ggg nerf this boss' health or was he playing a total zdps build?
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dead thread
dead game
abandonware
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how much rarity should i go for on temple farmer
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>>553556573
>quin
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>>553553604
boneshatter/earthshatter is unironically stronger, faster, and cheaper than shield wall.
shield wall is just the streamer pushed "thing" so people will say everything else not SW is bad even if its the other way around.
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>>553558343
>boneshitter/earthshitter
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>>553558343
I know this is a shitpost because there is legitimately no reason to use earthshatter over basically everything else. mace strike, cancel animation rolling slam and even earthquake are better alternatives to earthshatter.
the only real use of earthshatter I've seen so far is prestacking spikes on bosses in combination with forge hammer and totem.
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>>553559318
earthshatter is by far mace's strongest single target, obviously you arent using it to clear
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>>553558343
>boneshatter after they nerfed mob density
lol
you missed it, used to be so fun exploding screens of stacked mobs with one boneshatter shockwave cascades...
now it's all poop....
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>he is a jingakh
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poe2 is dei slop
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>>553559974
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I was going to post
>they should make sunder channeled so you can do small taps for small damage and giga channel it for giga damage
but then I remembered supercharged slam exists but that has zaoe and a long minimum channel time before it does anything so it double sucks. Maybe it's good single target if you're already down the aftershocks rabbit hole idk. But then I was like
>what if we scale the shit out of sunder aoe
but it doesn't scale laterally so it blows.
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2H Maces should have a +50%-100%AOE variant, like the bows extra proj
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let me tell you how retarded and shit ggg are.
they designed sunder to be a skill that you only use after you do a bunch of shit. basically it requires a lot of setting up and then bam, lots of damage. that's why it had a total attack time of 1.4.
now they removed the total attack time and it scales with attack speed but they left everything else the same. lazy incompetent pieces of shit. this is d4 tier balancing.
now my question is, why? why does sunder need to do a specific thing and nothing else? why do skills exist like that in poe2? it's not the only one either. they regressed in terms of game play and depth.
how do you do that? how do you regress when you have a game that you still actively develop and work on that does it the best way possible.
ggg actively makes skills shit to use because they want you to play the game their way. poe2 game play is like a theme park.
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>>553560915
Because Maces were clearly the first Melee archetype they created for PoE2 and it sucks, while every subsequent melee archetype has been better. Simply put Maces is just 0.1 development that hasn't been updated for the actual game that was created after it. Bear Warrior is just Mace Warrior except good, so obviously GGG realizes Maces kind of suck, It's just a matter of them prioritizing making the rest of the game before they go back and rework Maces.
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How many jewish merchant tabs should i buy? Is 2 enough? Can you set them private and use them as normal tabs?
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>>553561312
Zero, merchant tabs are obsolete with Ange's asynch trading being a thing.
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>>553561460
retard
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Very organic growth at the 30 day mark.
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>what are weekends
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I'm enjoying Second Wind so much. Every POE1 and POE2 league should have big public private leagues 1-2 months in.
It feels so good to not have to wait months for the next fresh one.
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>>553561460
Who the fuck is Ange
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cringe
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>>553561179
i don't understand how bear warrior is good. it seems like it has slow and shitty clear which is the same problem mace has. what am I missing?
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From a thematic point of view, I'm the EXACT target audience for both builds. When given a class choice in any tabletop or RPG, I have always played Druids. When given the choice between humans or fluffballs/scalies, I pick the more questionable option. You can imagine my hype when GGG finally announced 0.4.

Both builds feels completely different to each other. That good and expected. It's Druid, after all - Druids are known for diverse gameplay and flexibility.

Yet after playing both to level 95, I'm surprised how unexpected that difference appears:

- Plant Oracle is a 2-button build whose skills, however, have almost zero impactful feeling. You cast it and it damages (+slows/pins) everything around you, but there is a lack of visuals and/or acoustic feedback that make you *feel* like pressing buttons does something. And that's despite there only being two skills (Entangle + Vines, since rain and debuffs are automated) and despite, objectively, the build doing enough damage. For some reason, this is exhausting since you do almost nothing and it feels like your skills do almost nothing, yet this gameplay experience doesn't represent the actual mathematical efficiency.

- Wolf Shaman is the exact opposite. You have 6 active skills you frequently use (2 damage options + apply mark via pounce + 2 buffs + warcry), all have great visual and acoustic feedback and it's ironically a lot less exhausting to play. I mean: That frozen shattering alone is chef's kiss. Yet, purely mathematically speaking, my Wolf is less efficient than the Plant Oracle, but the gameplay experience totally contradicts that.

It's the first time in years of playing PoE1/2 that I can genuinely *get* what GGG is saying when they try to explain how important it is (for PoE2) to not reduce everything to 1-2 button builds.
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>>553562360
>i don't understand how bear warrior is good
Titan=Hulking Form is an incredible ascendancy passive that works particularly well with AoE builds, and boosts all other aspects of your character significantly (armour, damage, maximum rage, movement speed/reduction of movement penalties, cdr if you need it etc).
Warbringer=free all damage breaks armour which means you can do herald of ice+armour break with almost no investment
Smith=very easy gearing+fire spell on hit (mostly memes but has some potential)
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>>553562694
i know why titan is good (i have a titan wolf), i'm saying i don't know why bear is good it looks terrible.
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>>553562836
https://youtu.be/683JA6vb6c4
Looks great to me.
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something awaits you in the tub...
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>>553562836
Because Walking Calamity is extremely busted and the Warrior part of the tree has absurd amounts of Fire damage scaling. Also you can do memes with the Unique talisman.
In addition, Bear adds a whole bunch of armor scaling. I hit level 65 on my bear character today, spent 4 div on gear, and went into t15 maps (at level 65) and walked through them because 30k armour with 150% armor to ele reduction paired with Defiance of Destiny makes you extremely tanky while maps just melt automatically from Walking Calamity.
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>>553562986
looks like shit, just another stampede with extra steps
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>>553563184
Headhunter too expensive for you eh?
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>>553560626
it would be 20% at most
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>>553563348
bow extra proj doubles the damage, +100% AOE would be fair
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>>553563702
filtered
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trials should be 10(ten) times as hard. ascendancy should be an achievement, not a cake walk
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>>553563648
ggg disagrees
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>>553563702
Where did you find that picture of me?
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>>553561590
you're not supposed to notice that!
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>>553563702
chaos sucks it's a massive time waster basically as a fuck you to whoever does it

sekhema is alright
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>>553564015
'vke
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>>553563310
I stopped playing day 4 because I didn't like the temple and I wasn't going to play 0.3 again.
not sure what the price of hh was day 4 but I'm pretty sure I can afford one now.
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>>553563702
both ascendency trials sucks I don't think tota can redeem both of them
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>>553564289
you should redeem a rope
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>>553563702
TRHVKE
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>>553564360
you should ascend to the afterlife
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>>553564118
thanks for showing all the new accounts for me to follow
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kys
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>>553563702
Yes but they're not that long
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>>553564289
tota was one of the worst mechanics they ever made so yeah no shit it's not gonna save anything
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>>553564250
It's obvious your bitchiness comes from a place of sadness, I just guessed wrong what the source of the sadness is. I hope it all works out for you.
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>>553564118
league start friday
7 day times 4 plus 2 = weekend
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>>553564696
67
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H A R D
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>>553564676
>I talked out my ass and got shut down
>gonna double down with something else now
are you not tired of being proven wrong? do you enjoy getting shit on? you're just a retard who makes baseless assumptions.
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>>553564838
'vke
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game is still shit I'm reuninstalling the game
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>>553565026
last epoch is waiting for you
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>>553564838
he can't stop winning
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>>553565136
last aipoch is unironically more fun and complex than poop of excremement 2
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>>553560915
>armchair balancer that has never played with sunder has retard opinion
meanwhile my literal 0 damage support sunder meant for just supporting my main skill is near instant and one-shots white/magics
maybe play the game instead of parroting some random thing a streamer said 9 months ago?
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>>553564918
You obviously have no headhunter so my assumption has been proven completely correct, being able to buy it 2 months into the league isn't an achievement.

>you're just a retard who makes baseless assumptions.
And you're a faggot who says a great looking build looks shit, without posting anything for comparison, so I'm inclined to assume you're a jaded, poor shitter, and so far it looks like I'm only wrong about how poor you are.
I have no reason to believe your character is better than the bear I posted.
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>>553565156
why is he doing the elon musk salute
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>>553565196
'vke
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>>553565196
nigger, did you really just got your feelings hurt cuz I said that builds looks like shit?
I'm correct, that build looks and plays like shit, like I said, stampede with extra steps. it's the truth, deal with it and stop crying.
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>>553565539
That build was doing over a million DPS and that's shit to you? I guess you have really high standards.
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>>553565539
Show a build that "looks and plays" good. I will not post anything acerbic or sarcastic about it.
You're a jaded miserable shitter in my eyes until you do, and your opinion means nothing. If you want it to mean something, post a build that's good to you.
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>>553565681
I played a rend/oil barrage shaman, idc and I don't obsess over useless shit like how many gorillions of dps I'm doing. I cleared everything in the game and had fun while doing it so who fucking cares if I did 1.5 mil dps or 1.7. min maxing trannies are the worst.
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>>553566017
So what's your measure of a good build then?
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>>553566101
>talk to me I'm lonely!
no, I said what I said and gave my opinion.
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>>553566314
You just seethed a bunch, but alright.
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>>553566017
You didn't kill uber arbiter.
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>oil barrage build player complains about other builds being "x with extra steps"
top zozzle
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I fucking hated playing the dragon build.
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>>553566517
I did.
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how much rarity should i go for on temple farmer, does anyone know?
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>>553566776
Sure you did.
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>>553566754
>I fucking hated playing PoE2
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>>553566801
-60
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the amount of crashing as minionigger is unreal
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How to get more damage out? Im clearing t15 pretty well but still die occasionally and comet really doesn't go off very often. I don't have +30 from my chest for elemental infusions anymore either.
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>>553554726
So I killed the architect last night and then it told me to use the console to access the final room which I couldn't do. Do I have to do architect and final boss in 1 run or something? The guy called me a retard for not doing it.
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>>553561590
FYI you can track ACTUAL player numbers by tracking market currency flow. The numbers have been botted for a while now. You can't trust steamdb numbers.

Reminder that there was a Battlefield free weekend and 0 (zero) additional players joined all weekend according to steamdb because they didn't change the bot setpoint number. Every game company bots their games to show fake interest. Some are just better at not getting caught.
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>>553566889
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>>553567789
retard
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>>553563702
dam I'm Supporter Packlet and still I learned the trials in about 2 hours because why would I pay for a carry on ez content that I almost exclusively 1 shot?
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>>553567789
prove it
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>>553564838
>Probably the single most enthralling part of PoE franchise is the feeling of starting a fresh character.

Why is this? it's very important you know the right answer.
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>>553567789
>by tracking market currency flow
that wouldn't count ssf players though
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>>553567789
damn you got me, my master plan to make poe2 look like its played beyond week 1 is over....
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>>553567505
https://pobb.in/mf6L71tQd4Ur
https://pobb.in/mf6L71tQd4Ur
https://pobb.in/mf6L71tQd4Ur

forgot link
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>>553567789
I believe this
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>>553567848
nigga you're using herald of ash and lingering illusion, nothing I can say can hurt you more than you're already doing to yourself
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>>553567848
based KING BTFOs the FAggOT GAWD >>553568376
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Tytykiller status?
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>>553568465
I made him buy my crisis frags
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>>553546401
lvl 2 alch labs, lvl 2 smithy, lvl 2 commanders etc
anything with "quipolatl medallion" in the description
it doesn't drop from "advanced medallion" rooms afaik
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>>553568493
mogging lily
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>>553567593
the built temples never run either of the bosses
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>>553565282
not even close, muskfag
>fist held closed like a real man instead of a nazi loser
>arm going up not forward
only you nazi retards think it's somehow discreet and secret, when it's the most obvious thing
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>>553568917
yes but I want to finish the quest?
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oy vey temple be good to me fellas
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>>553568684
You didn't, that pic was made just before I quit. I also deleted my weapon for good measure because who fucking cares.
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>>553568071
>>553567505
anyone? Im thinking about putting Comet + living bomb on the CoC
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>>553569136
It's calamity fragments for uber arbiter, but I wouldn't expect someone who's using someone else's screenshot to know the difference kek.
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Isn't it kind of sad that most players don't even know what resources you use to beat the game? Do most people even know Uber bosses exist in 2?
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A guy saves all his money to wash himself with 5000 bars of soap looking for a 0.01% chance that he gets clean.
You marry a woman with perfect genetics and have people from all across the earth pay you to make a child for them to use as a slave.
At at your job you only earn one loaf of bread per week but it averages out to a normal salary over the course of a year because there's a very small chance you win the opportunity to live in a villa for a month.
You have a perfectly good watermelon that tastes great and you've been eating for a while. Instead of finishing that melon you go to every market within 100km and buy all the melons so you can throw them off a tall building to find one that tastes a bit sweeter.
You can grow from a child to age 20 very quickly by watching a guy run around a zoo killing the animals.
Forget your kid's birthday party. He remains
age 5 for the next decade.
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>>553569231
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sneed
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>>553569609
I too have mspaint
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>>553569609
Notice how he set up the lie ahead of time by saying he deleted his weapon, knowing someone will inquire about skill bars being different. It would be commendable if he didn't actually dox himself.
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poo2
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>>553569084
no one cares
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>>553565176
We already find out that doomshitters are pathetic, but thank you for yet another reminder
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>>553570526
>87 rupees have been deposited into your toilet
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>>553569205
my build used blood magic in the tree instead of lifetap
I dropped the instant leech gloves and got a 10% of life leeched is instant heart of the well w/c is sufficient
and I used arc CoC since it enables me to go hard on lightning damage, + lightning spells and it synergizes well with choir
anoint Fast Metabolism, it's OP
slot in +spell runes in your staff
tecrods is better than rakiata, it will enable you to remove the efficiency supports I think
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>>553570096
Thanks for the (You)
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>>553571554
anytime, senpai
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>>553546401
upgrade the alch and commander and smithy rooms last, they can drop an upgrade medallion at lvl 2 but not 3
how many locks are you getting? if you really believe that you can sustain 3 per run, its worth upgrading the hanging golem and locking it. golem 3 has a pretty good chance for upgrade medallion, maybe 20%.
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So I have to kill Atziri once to unlock medallions? Or has killing the architect unlocked them for me?
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New player here. Am I to understand correctly that unique items have a base item type that dictates their stats, meaning that they do not scale at all? If this is correct, what is the point of a lot of the unique weapons that have base weapon types with damage ranges severely below the endgame standard?

And if you are just supposed to use them when they are relevant, why do a lot of them have unique traits that could be considered build defining?
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>like living bomb as a concept
>it was stuck on wands so it was shit
>now it's remade so you can't play it as a main skill
fucking ggg why can't they just make skills that are fun to play

>>553572987
yeah it's one of the main downfalls of the uniques

they used to have a pseudo-upgrade system for some uniques in poe1 but they scrapped that and now there's foulborn uniques in 1 that made some of them good again

what both games really need is the base upgrade system from d2

>And if you are just supposed to use them when they are relevant, why do a lot of them have unique traits that could be considered build defining?
because ggg retarded
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>>553572987
uniques use the base item type but they can have modifiers which increase the stats, just like rare items
a unique weapon could have a mod that adds 10000 physical damage and it would be the best weapon in the game
but yes it does mean that a unique available at lvl 1 will have terrible stats
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I liked it better when we could only use 1 support each. it had weight and now we have lineage supports as well. what a shit terrible change.
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>>553572987
You can get flat damage (or whatever the unique is missing) in other places so you can make favorable tradeoffs.
E.g. Adonia's Ego provides a ginormous damage boost if you use the power charge mechanic, so you can easily get over it not being the best caster weapon. Widowhail scales your quiver very hard so you can make up for low base damage, Lioneye's Vision makes projectile attacks always barrage so you have double damage to start with etc.
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performance got WAY worse for me since this last patch. went from pretty good fps that sometimes struggled during big packs with lots of effects, which is understandable, to a shit storm mess any time more than 10 enemies are on screen. how much more shit do i have to put up with to play this fucking game.
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>>553568071
spark damage matters for getting comet coc procs
use pierce 3 instead of fork
use blood magic on the tree instead of wasting a support on lifetap if you dont use mana at all (and then replace zenith with faster casting or something)
level your gems, you should at least use a corrupted 19+1 spark and comet
get rings with cast speed
get a better staff again with cast speed
get boots with 35 movespeed
probably replace that belt with hh (get 2 charm slots so you can use a 3rd charm)
probably replace choir with a +3 spell amulet with cast speed and shit
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>>553574667
It was a bold but good idea that wasn't sufficiently supported by a nice selection of skills, so it felt more stifling than fun.
It's unfortunate that they give up on core design ideas so easily under pressure. Sometimes the pressure is completely justified and it ends up being the right call, but I really don't think that was the case with support gems. At least they kept lineages capped so you don't have to get a rakiata for your every herald or some shit.
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poo2? tub of shit
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>likely not even reaching 80k today
Was keeping retention that hard?
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>the outcome of the temple fiasco isn't gonna be a nerfed temple but instead nerfed droprates
i can see it
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Is it possible to be purely physical wolf or do you miss out on too much damage and AoE by not including the cold skills too?
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>>553577426
>literally half the playerbase of PoE2 is in Talkative Tri's personal league
Zizaran lost...
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>>553577683
Jonathan's personally coded league will retain the agenda.
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>>553577931
> i'm bored now that the initial crunch of the early access is dying down
>i'll program the best league mechanic either game has ever seen and increase overall performance of the game by 20-30%
>oh i also used my personal fortune to start a school to teach kids programming
how can one man be so based?
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>>553574994
>corrupted 19+1
What does this mean? Can I just Vaal my lvl 19 gems and get a +1 on them?
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>>553578506
>Jonathan builds schools for children
>Chris buys trading cards and makes clickbait videos
We know who really won.
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What spear skill do I use to clear on my chalupa + rapid assault meme build? Rapid assault works great on bosses and I have a mirage exploding spear popping the bonus spearheads.

For clear I've been fucking about between twister, lightning spear and explosive spear but they're all kinda mid. Feels a bit like you gotta fully commit to using one of them to make it work.

I suppose there's also the option to anoint tribal fury and clearing with rapid assault but ancestral call happening every x seconds is kind of fucking annoying. It makes the clear feel shitty.
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>>553578801
they both have millions to do whatever the fuck they want with

it's fair to say they both won compared to the average chud
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>>553578798
quality + perfect jeweller the gem (only quality for comet since it doesnt need sockets in coc)
vaal it
if it doesnt change or quality went up, use the new currency that double corrupts the gem
repeat until you get +1
you can do this with any level gem and then upgrade it to 19 or 20 later
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>>553579429
>new currency that double corrupts the gem
what is this?
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>>553580112
crystalized corruption
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The silence is tubbening
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TubBros Im only picking up white items in here what price should I be dumping them at in my shop?
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>PoE1
Is there a key combo to consume an entire stack of regret orbs at once? If so what is it? Ditto for Unmaking orbs.
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>>553577808
wolf's only purpose is to use bhatair's vengeance well, which is why freeze is mandatory.
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>>553578801
>insecure vile virtue signaler
vs.
>the sensitive game enjoyer
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>>553583040
illegal AHK macros
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>>553564838
>ad populum
Tri is such a fucking midwit.
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>>553586274
SOFT hands made this post.
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>>553564838
Half of that supposed 50k just quit btw.
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>>553586274
>ad populum bad
>vocal minority good
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>>553586559
>HCSSFbtw
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>>553586274
you just wouldn't get it
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>too weak, too slow
>my asthma!
>Supper...
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>>553587714
I MUST MAKE THEM PAY
I MUST MAKE THEM SUPPER
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>>553587714
>has mommy issues
>obsessed with supper
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2026 is the year of Path of Exile 2
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>>553588473
Big if true
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>>553588473
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>>553581842
fulmination could be an interesting combo with the shock from thunderstorm+supports
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>>553588794
the eceleb does not like it
we are so not back.
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Tri, the Saviour
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>want to play pooe2
>remember Temple exists
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2 dead games
1 dead general
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>>553583040
you coulda spam clicked all the regrets you need in the time you wrote that post
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https://www.arpg-timeline.com/
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>>553589642
Interesting.
>PoE1
>Est. February
Heeeeeeeeh
>Last Epoch basically out
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>>553587714
meat creature!
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poo2? expulsion of fecal matter
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another run another jackpot
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>>553590452
ur temple sucks bigly
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>>553590585
how so?
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>>553589443
>you coulda spam clicked
You could safely assume that's what I aim to avoid; hence the question. I also understand the ctrl shift right click part. But was wondering if there's a key combo that eats the whole stack. So your answer no, there isn't?
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>>553588473
the year of Path of Exile 2 death inshallah
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>>553589642

TLI into Hero Siege2 most likely. Pretty good.
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>>553591637
you can ctrl hold click then let go of ctrl, like with fusings. It's not instant but obviously they're not going to let you do 40 actions instantly
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how the fuck does eldritch battery even work in poo2? I got this keystone and only 25% of my es became mana and the rest is gone
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thinking about trying hc ssf for the first time (although i've only ever traded in an arpg twice with recent poe2 characters, otherwise always basically been unofficially ssf)
what class should i play?
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>>553594690
The conversion happens before any global % increased ES nodes apply, so those are useless (local ones still are useful)
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>>553594917
smith of kitava resonating shield/shield wall if you want to be safe and reliable and don't care about being slow
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>>553594917
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhcssf
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>>553590637
idk i dont know what it looks like but it should drop twice as much loot
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>>553595613
i didn't build the tub temple, just a more casual one
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>>553594690
It's not really for survivability, it's for damage maxing.
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>>553595335
it already takes my slow ass like 40 hours to finish the campaign so if slow means even slower i'm not sure about that kek
>>553595562
the whole fun of arpgs to me is making my own build so not planning to follow any guides, but cool to see corpse explosion first on whatever this list is
so far i've done a tempest bell monk when early access dropped, minions + corpse explosion witch, poisonburst pathfinder, and wyvern druid that i turned into a demon bear when i found the unique talisman
probably going to try a new class so maybe blood mage with leech or something where i can do poison+bleed and get a bunch of herald of blood explosions which sounds cool
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>>553595016
Oh wow that’s fucking stupid, thanks for explaining though
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>>553596297
It should not take you 40 hours to do the campaign unless you are doing something extremely wrong. I play hcssf, do every optional side objective, do the temple as I level, listen to some of the lore, reset zones when I am behind in gear, and it takes me like 20 hours at most.
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>>553596639
even with my last char which was the wyvern druid it took that long, and it was by far my strongest character
idk i stop and think at the passive tree a fair bit, spend way too much time trying to compare and slam new gear, probably a lot of it comes from TPing back to town every time my inv is full to sell or salvage shit
i made a new witch recently with the intent to try blood mage and speed through the game relatively quickly and it only took me 4 hours to get through act 1 which was definitely faster than i've done it previously
my first playthrough i legit would full clear a zone before moving on, shit took me forever but it was fun
also does ssf lose the currency exchange? i figure so but not sure
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lads I require guidance. I just got my warrior to the final interlude area with doryani's sleepy vaal. I'm level 65, the only unique I'm using is a Tidebreaker I picked up through trade.

everything is getting rough. I can't clear my temples anymore because the architect chamber boss kills me. If there are rares with the wrong affixes I end up actually dieing, like one extremely fucked up abyss enemy had some ground degen so strong I couldn't stand still long enough to use my attacks. I've taken as much survivability as I can from the talent tree (I pathed up to the shaman node that gives you res for example.) I have 56 exalt and 10 chaos in my stash, should I go buy myself new gear now or tough it out until maps? Or a certain level breakpoint?
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>>553598770
post pob
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warframe won
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>>553600354
won what
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The didn't backstab its playerbase award.
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reminder shes a breachlord
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>>553599751
Jonathan desperately wishes poop2 looked this good
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>>553600916
can you please put some fucking effort in your doomsissying
this is pathetic man
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>>553600831
going to post any evidence of that claim?
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>>553600831
would
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>>553598845
Ok

https://pobb.in/w6SMGE71_a0U

I'm just using gear I slammed together by running temples and using the exalted benches in there. Right now it feels like my survivability is 100% the result of just hitting the potion button over and over.
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>>553600831
Don't think so. Chayula is the only Breachlord that has been described as coherent and stable enough to work with people. All other Breachlords are insane destructive retards. Esh and Tul are in no state to do decades-long gay ops so it would have to be Uul-Netol if anyone else.

It is possible Oriana could be a Chayula minion. But it's also possible she just gets corrupted by the Beast in Act 5 and has to be put down.
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>>553601586
The other 4 breachlords are all merged into Xesht by the time poop2 rolls around
more likely she's an agent of one of the scourge demons considering that corruption in poop2 spawns scourge enemies
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>>553589109
You don't have to do the temple
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>>553601056
>>553601586
the leader of the twilight order "secretly works with a breachlord" to genetically modify/produce "the savior"
the savior is lumerius who is oriannas son
"a fact some find strangely coincidental"

pretty obvious if your high iq...
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>>553602680
>"secretly works with a breachlord"
where does it say that in this blurb
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>>553591637
if 100 clicks causing you problems then you gotta be playing a different genre
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>>553602863
its in the artbook nig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4lyWUmPwFY
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>>553601789
Keepers of the Flame league established that Chayula's been hanging out in Wraeclast for a long time doing cult shit with Ailith being his main representative.
Oriana being a Scourge demon would mean the Order got hijacked from its original purpose, which I assume was Chayula attempting to weaken Wraeclast's pantheons to make it easier for him to conquer the world.

>>553602680
Zolin also talks about Chayula a lot in the endgame and it's heavily implied the player talks to Chayula directly at some point in the campaign and works out some uneasy agreement.

It's possible that something went wrong with his Twilight Order plan since you are totally shitting on all of his hard work by Act 5 and you don't end up smearing his purple ass all over the walls.
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>>553603167
None of these look like breach monsters
They're all more like temple of lunaris / piety / beast monsters
also post the timestamp, I'm not watching 40 minutes of some sloptuber
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>>553603356
bwo...
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3905372
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>>553602942
That's not why I'm asking
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>>553603551
finally
was that so hard?
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>>553603609
>EARLY MARCH
Nyehehehehehhehe
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>>553596089
I have a friend who's always been into d2 and still plays it but I could never get him into poe1. He tried once or twice, got to maps but that's it. He instantly got into poe2 in 0.1 and has been playing multiple 90+ characters in every league since. He might not be a genius build creator but I'd say he's easily better at poe2 than 90% of poe1 "veterans".
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>>553603864
Sad noises
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>>553597484
>also does ssf lose the currency exchange? i figure so but not sure
solo self found means no trading of any kind
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>>553603864
I've never found one of these
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release the goblin skin now.
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>>553603609
>In keeping with our four month development cycle, you can expect Path of Exile 3.28 to launch 4.5 months after 3.27
lol okay guys. whatever at least it's only a small delay
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>>553603167
WTF how can they use Bex's likeness???? She doesn't work there anymore.
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>>553604243
So who here speaks Asian
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>>553604472
don't you fags cry about GGG rushing shit out all the time
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>>553601338
I don't know if the tidebreaker is a good weapon for that level but for your armor pieces they all pretty much suck. Replace them with new pieces that have more life, res and armor. Swap out the blackflame to a rare ring that gives you actual stats.
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Already took off March 6th thru the 15th in anticipation of this. Even if they delay it a week I'm still good. Finally some new PoE to play after 4 months of nothing.
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>>553604895
retard
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>>553604472
the league is 4 months long, there is a week between the end of a league and the start of the next one.
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>>553604769
if they wanted to switch a 5 month cycle i wouldnt care. im making fun of them for lying about it
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>>553600354
more like warframe stole your soul and now you're a soulless drone grinding away
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>>553577426
we did it bros
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>>553598064
kek i'm watching it right now
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I do wonder if they even have an idea what they'll do for the next league.
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>>553605187
just spitballing here but I'm thinking it'll be a mechanic that's mostly about killing monsters in a circle but it has an out of map component that drops lots of well-rolled rares
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>>553605416
Okay but what colour though?
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>>553605076
putting on some music and grinding excavation with my Vauban was comfy af
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>Keepers
>>Kill things in a circle
>>Out of map component for getting items/currency
>Mercs
>>Kill single enemy in a map
>Settlers
>>Kill things in a circle
>>Out of map component for getting items/currency
3.28 will be Metamorph 2
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>>553603293
I wonder how that would work out if you're playing Acolyte of Chayula. It seems that he already has some unique dialogue. He brings up the dreamer a bunch.
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>>553605685
TLI is already rehashing that idea so that's just funny.
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>>553605723
Acolyte Monk probably just ends up agreeing with Chayula and continues being an orbiter.
Invoker/???? Monk might be different paths where he thinks Chayula is kind of cringe and does his own thing instead. It could hard for him since he was raised at Ailith's monastery since he was a kid.
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apparently niggyd said in a podcast that they actually made a dedicated poe1 team
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>>553606330
this would be extremely unretarded if true which is why i doubt it
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y
i
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poo2? tubbed to shit
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>the scat fetishist is awake
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>>553606330
I genuinely, and I mean this in a completely non-shitpost manner, do not believe anything "positive" GGG has to say about PoE1. They've lied and lied so many times that this is just another to the pile.
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>>553606487
I have to hold on to hope, even if I know it is misplaced or false.
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>>553606774
Lmao, so it does just create more tabs to put stuff in.
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>>553606774
lel
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3.28 is going to rival affliction in player retention due to them reworking every scarab in the game
there will be so many new combos it will be impossible to test them all in one league
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>>553606774
jfc
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>>553579208
and to determine the final winner, they go against each other, hence the comment, redditor
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JONATROON
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>>553606774
absolute madman
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>>553607024
keepers and fate of the vaal have proven without a shadow of a doubt that more loot and more endgame juice = better retention
question is what ggg does with that information
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>>553604725
베네리눈 호남순 maybe idk if it's nonsense I just typed it out in hangul
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>>553606487
i agree. poe1 is dead and we should all move on.
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lol
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>>553606774
Imagine the guy who bought all those wisdom scrolls to be able to buy that from you. I'm not sure if I should be impressed or worried.
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>>553606774
this was the item
i thought it was pretty good but nobody else felt the same way
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>>553607328
agreed poe is dead
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>>553606487
there is an interview destin did with mark awhile back, he was VERY adamant about his and gggs devotion to poe1. it was kind of a 'the lady doth protests too much' moment, i don't think ggg are happy with the situation they are in.
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>>553604725
>>553607290
>호남순
forgot to add that this could be a name
Ho Nam-Sun or maybe Nam-Soon

it's also hard to guess if he romanized the letters correctly as korean has a lot of vowels
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>>553607727
i believe in marks devotion to poe1, he clearly loves the game. jonathan on the other hand seems like he would be happier if it just stopped existing
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>>553603609
>In keeping with our four month development cycle, you can expect Path of Exile 3.28 to launch early March. As usual, there will be a content reveal livestream to display what we've been working on, and the date for this will be announced in the coming weeks. In the meantime, there's still plenty of time left to finish your Keepers League challenges, and maybe you'll finally tell Ailith the truth!

fine fuck it ill do the challenges, how is RF nowadays? i skipped this league but poe2 is just not clicking with me in 0.4
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>>553607563
rarity might be a bit undervalued at least among temple farmers but that looks like a nice amulet

I'd gladly wear it on a caster
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>check pohx video on RF
>says elementalist is best
>says check website
>says RF chieftan is best
is this faggot retarded?
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i never played poe 1, what are swords like in that game? when they're introduced in poe 2, will i be able to do something like whirling assault but with swords? will they have the same bullshit as mace skills where it's slow as fuck?
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>>553607290
>>553607852
I'll never know but thanks for trying. I thought it was going to be some South Korean Bound (gloves)
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>>553608801
They might give us Cyclone as a sword skill in poe2, but it won't be a "hold the button down and spin forever" kind of skill, it'd probably be some kind of charge spender. And no there's no way sword skills would have the added flat attack time like mace skills aside from maybe a handful that would probably be finishers, that goes against their whole design philosophy in 1 with maces, axes, and swords. Maces are slow and hit the hardest, swords are the fastest and more crit-oriented, and axes are somewhere in the middle.
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>keepers released 4.5 months after mercs
>3.28 announced as "early march", meaning 4.5 months after keepers
erm... this doesnt really look like a 4 month league cycle
the schedule is already raped by jonatroon forcing the poe2 league before christmas. what happens when the 4.5 month cycle continues and 3.29 releases at the end of july? will 3.30 get the pre-christmas slot since early december is 4.5 months would be 4.5 months after that?
are they just going to skip a league?
are they going to rush out a poe1 league with even less dev time to get back on track?
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im so bored of temple, but im too committed to reaching lvl 100 to give up now. i can do like an hour of temple then have to take a detox break. Also fuck shield wall, build is good on a budget but just doesnt scale well with good gear
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>>553607727
I think Mark enjoys PoE1 a lot but he gets emasculated by Jonathan's hakas during their stand up meetings when he tries to push for more resources onto PoE1.
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With the current cadence 0.5 gonna be late march/early april, so 1 month of poe1 again kek
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>>553609838
happy for you guys
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>>553608801
poe1 skills are not locked to weapons. The end result is that everyone uses axes, because they have the best damage/aspd ratio. Also keep in mind that poe1 slams are nothing like poe2 slams, they are fast as fuck.
Anyway, swords are extremely niche right now.
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>>553610109
>poe1 skills are not locked to weapons
incorrect
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>>553609838
the most likely scenario is that they release 0.5 a solid 2 months after 3.28 and maybe do 3.29 and 0.6 with another 2 months inbetween, but then skip 3.30 to get poe2 1.0 out before christmas
it makes perfect sense when you think about it
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>try spark coc comet
>spark is proccing comet too slow
how do i speed this up? does spark have to be lvl 21 or something? im using the covenent alpha howl variant
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imagine poe2 but Chris is still in charge
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>>553610587
oracle? get more damage and click some energy nodes on the tree
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>>553610630
you would call him a bald fucking retard instead of jonathan you faggots are niggers through and through
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n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word n-word
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>>553610587
>casts comet on critical hit
>why am i not casting comet enough
idk m8, maybe more CRITICAL HITS would help
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>>553605537
we haven't had a blue league in a while
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what the fuck do i do for 1 and a half month
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>>553605416
>drops lots of well-rolled rares
is this gggs new favorite meme? fucking poe2 shit in my videogame
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>>553610746
purely a coincidence that the act chris did the most work on is the one everyone agrees is the best
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>>553610346
0.5 will be early april.
there will be 2 weeks of 3.28 and they will announce 0.5.
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>>553611004
you mean ruthless? :)
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>>553610346
That would require them to (re)commit into "2 months between games" instead of "4 months between leagues", at least temporarily. It's not like they didn't walk back things before, but the chance they keep as is and drop 0.5 a month after 3.28 is pretty high
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>>553610992
they've been trying to find a way to make ground items worthwhile without making crafting easy for a while now
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>>553610746
why would i berate the man when the game would actually be good?
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the tub is a sink of joy
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On the other hand do you really need more than a week or two for poe1 in the current state. It's all going through the same motions
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>>553611039
>there will be 2 weeks of 3.28 and they will announce 0.5.
at this point i wouldnt even be surprised
jonathan is not trying to kill poe1 though btw
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>>553611554
i hate how solved of a game poe1 is, I really fucking want a huge balance change even if it's for the "worse" so people can figure out more new shit
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>>553611465
the bald fucking retard poster has switched to jonathan for a reason lets not be naive
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>>553611554
yea you do
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>>553611569
the only thing that has an impact on is the gauntlet, and ziz will be moving that shit to poe2 the second 1.0 drops.
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>>553559862
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>>553611631
kalandra called, people hated it
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>>553612069
who cares if some dadgamers hated it, just change shit up
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>>553612069
people only hated kalandra because of archnemesis
it would have been a moderately successful patch without that
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>>553612181
the players who wanted change migrated to poe2.
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>>553612452
lake mechanic kind of sucked cock too honestly not because of the rewards but because how annoying it was to set it up, literally temple tier autism
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>>553612576
Yeah but without archnem people would have just ignored it like sanctum since it was an off map mechanic.
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>>553612680
yea the patch itself was alright, i didnt even mind archnem that much myself
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why are both poe 1 and 2 suddenly crashing every time i change any setting
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>temple suddenly stops dropping lock medallions
>lose half of my spymasters
it's over
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>>553613268
Your RAM is dying
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>>553610719
yeah oracle , you mean nodes like this i take it
>>553610837
im oracle so that should always be happening, when i use ele weaknesss instead of spark it procs way more but i'd like to make spark work too
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When did you realize that PoE 1&2 are actually PvP games? Economical PvP.
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>>553614753
I play ssf. Player vs RNG
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>>553614753
about 13 years ago
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>>553614753
They're actually PvD (players vs developers)
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>>553614907
They're PvE games (Poop vs Excrement)
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how do i flicker strike in poe2?
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>>553615197
first you flicker
then you strike
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i cant even be bothered to play the poe1 campaign damn maybe i just stopped caring about poe
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>>553608801
For now it's hard to say what sort of flavor they're gonna come up for swords, axes, daggers and flails. I think or hope in the long run we'll see more skills that are available across weapon classes.
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>>553615868
maybe in 2.0
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>>553240520 here

my gf just broke up with me no cap
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>>553611554
I don't need even a day because there's no point in playing it anymore
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>>553616009
what's her insta?
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>>553613442
stealth nerfed to kill people's temples
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>>553616009
Good. Now don't be a spineless loser who goes crawling back to her. Threatening the relationship like that isn't healthy.
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>unfortunately we couldn't get the scarabs rework ready in time for 3.28, we're aiming for 3.29
>unfortunately we couldn't get the endgame rework ready for 0.5, we're aiming for 0.6
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>>553613442
I keep seeing people saying this, but I'm averaging about 2 locks for 11 spies for over 2 weeks now, so I assume you're all just retarded.
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>>553616504
what's wrong with scarabs
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>>553616625
they were too much fun
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post yfw you realize that scarabs are DUNG BEETLES
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>>553616783
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>>553613579
i did switch to chilled ground fracturing last night ...
fug
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile2builds/comments/1qazpre/1button_glacial_lance_deadeye_vs_uber_arbiter_for/

reddit won
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>>553616783
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the amount of times i have to reset my headhunter per map because i get shroudwalker is fucking infuriating, in true GGG fashion even the good items have to have bullshit mechanics
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>>553618563
your loot filter bro..
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>burn through over 600 maps (I know because of all the alchs I burned) to get my spymaster chain
>painful as FUCK
>sometimes go 20+ temples without seeing one
>sometimes you got them when you couldn't place them
>despite it all complete my russcuck chain
>now CONSTANTLY get spymasters

Fuck the RNG of this game.
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>>553619053
i need all that
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>>553619104
>You vill do ze campaign again
>You vill zetup ze temple again
What's next? Heist routes? Harvest farms?
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>>553618323
Just embrace it and go with the winds
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>>553618323
close your eyes and be yourself. works for me
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Is this game finally good?
When are they gonna release the templar finally?
Why is development so fucking slow?
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Temple was created specifically for SSF players. Who else needs that much currency en masse to actually play the game? They're starting to design rewards and events around single player ssf drones watch.
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>3.28 in early March
I predicted this.
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Insider here
There was supposed to be more information in the timeline announcement but Jonathan is working with the top grief counsellors in NZ on the EOS wording so players won't riot too much
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>>553621492
No.
Lol.
Everyone good quit.
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>second wind is already dead
TRIBROS?
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>>553621570
>a mechanic that takes 50 hours of setup
>in the mode where you have to do every mechanic in the game
ehhh
but i really do wonder what ssf would have been like in this league. i went trade for once in my life because playing ssf in poe2 is so miserable but it actually might be pretty fun with all the shit you get from the temple
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>>553619104
is the play spamming lvl 1 waystones?
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>>553622270
not anymore. higher tier waystones with more mods = more crystals. 6 mod t15 is 2 crystals every time
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https://pobb.in/jyM-bvTVRF0K

I went ahead and got blood magic on my tree. Damage is pretty good with this setup but I'm so squishy. Currently 9 div to get the Metabolism anoint and I would probably not want to waste that on my cheap choir. Im probably going to have to shelve the character and go back to my starter until I have the currency.
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>>553621952
Where did they go?
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>>553622584
"He" "ate" them.
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>>553622561
i think something is wrong with ur character cause my comet tooltip is literally 100 times as high
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>>553622089
W-We're all saving our crafting currency to craft GG items.
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>>553621952
TRVKE
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>>553621952
>bfr
>good
lol
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>>553622089
I don't know why people thought a private league was going to save this dogshit. Even in good leagues they live for like a few days at most and then it's just playing SSF-lite.
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>>553623752
Because a HARD man is leading the charge. That changes things.
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>3.28 confirmed for early march
>0.5 drops in april

KEKMAO

poopniggers dabbed to death

enjoy your 1 month throwaway league

shit1 is effectively EoS
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>>553624739
0.5 boutta be a BANGER too
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>>553624739
>>0.5 drops in april
>He doesn't know
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>>553624739
uh oh, 2jeet melty
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>>553624865
keep coping, both of us know we'll get a 0.4.1, too
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cant believe it took me this long to try naveria's fracturing
i just walk through maps, dont even see mobs anymo
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>>553623752
doesnt help that a fresh start in poe2 is fucking painful
>going through the campaign again
>having to comboslop to do damage
>needing to pick up, id and slam every item that drops
>no blink
>no 35% ms boots
>no headhunter
nah nigga im good
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>>553625180
0.2.1 and 0.3.1 were a big success and GGG are totally going to make the same mistake three times, retard.
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>>553625180
>both of us know we'll get a 0.4.1, too
They quite literally said they won't do a major mid league update this time around due to the holidays. Are you that unaware?
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>>553625494
they kinda already released a 0.4.1 with the temple mini rework but this time they did it so early that people actually begged them to revert it
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>>553623719
Everyone good quitting does not NEED to include BFR
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>0.4.1
Bro the league is gigadead, even if they clamped down on the temples today and nerfed everything to the ground it's way too late. The economy is just too fucked for anything to matter anymore.
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>>553625494
>the tower rework in 0.3.1 was actually bad!
lmao
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>>553625740
ANOTHER private league will save 0.4.
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>0.3.1 was good
we have reached levels of contrarianism previously thought impossible.
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theres no point in complaining about current systems because they're gonna be reworked completely at least 3 times before release
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>>553625651
lick those boots
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>>553625930
>It's shit
>Stop complaining
>GGG thinks it's now okay
>They don't change it
>1.0 releases
>It's shit
That being said, complaining here doesn't really do anything.
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First time here. I just made a new scion and gave her lightning tendrils and it... just costs no mana? I mean it does, but the mana regen is so high with just that one point into +20% mana regen (one of the first two passives available) that my mana just never goes below 210/211. Is this a bug, or is the spell too bad for it to matter, or what?
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>>553626063
>pointing out that ggg did in fact release a disastrous mid league patch
>bootlicking
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Towers sucked ass
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>>553625880
uh huh?
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>>553626316
ummmm /poeg/ explain this?
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>>553626316
towers were shit
0.3.1 was shit
the current endgame is shit
its a multi faceted situtation
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>>553626316
now do a compilation of all the people who were asking for towers back after 0.3.1 felt so underwhelming. You're also not mentioning them nerfing maps to the point that they felt empty. The patch wasn't well-received and most people just quit. For example, Fubgun told his audience to run the remaining maps that were influenced by towers and quit afterwards.
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>>553626467
>Multifaceted shit
Damn, 5/5% poison shit?
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>>553561179
>bear is maces but "good"
hahahahahha lmao you have got to be kidding. Bear is fucking dogshit
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>>553562360
you're not missing anything he's retarded. Calamity is dogshit on clear because it misses half the time and dogshit single target because it was "designed" for clear. The rampage slam shit is clunky and hard to steer bumper car tier dogshit that is almost laughably bad in high maps especially around abyss or any map with any sort of obstacles. It's like stampede levels of clunk on steroids
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fell for the mystery cuckboxes again and got 5 hideout decorations from the rigged droprates again
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>>553626731
So is Wyvern. Plants and Wolf were the only successes. Everything else is just awful. I still can't believe Tornado is some shitty phys DoT that needs tubbed ground to scale its damage.
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>>553626584
both of the things fubgun praised in 0.4 were only possible because of 0.3.1.
weird.
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>>553600831
who is lumerius again?
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0.4.5.2 will fix it
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>>553627318
technically true in the same way that eating a delicious dinner today was only possible because of the massive shit i took yesterday
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I noticed quite a few non-Bloodmage casters on Ninja are using Atziri's Acuities and I cannot fathom why. They have 0 Leech sources.
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>>553627841
It's over, 0.4 was loved by streamers. Viewers have their marching orders.
The only potential fix is reverting the tower rework and removing rare tablets.
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>>553628093
most of them use covenant
the other ones i honestly have no idea
i guess mana cost efficiency + crit is ok?
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RELEASE DUELIST NOW
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Does the vaal siphoner have any real use?
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>>553628970
you can siphon dn
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>>553628668
One of the highest overall damage Oracles on tradeLeague (no Covenant) is using them like this.
Suffice to say, I am thoroughly befuddled.
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>>553627627
wait wasn't 3.28 supposed to be for February?
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0.4/10
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>>553626967
plants is just spark at home. Two button clunk with shit clear and no upside. Wolf is fast i guess? Who cares
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>>553629090
Fugme.
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>>553629090
pob warrioring
poeninja default config has "have you dealt a crit recently?" unticked so it treats pic as 200% increased crit chance
in reality the mod does nothing
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Two blossoms and three echoes of loneliness. Back in 5 min
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>>553629107
no, late feb / early march
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>>553629498
>2x cum lifeforce and worthless shako
>3x shitty ring / gloves
enjoy.
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PoE1? Poo2? nah fuck that
Real gamers are holding out for Chris Wilson's new game
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>>553629908
For me, it's Moonbeast Games. D2 boomers will save the genre.
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>>553629908
BFR is gonna tub your game even more than jonathan ever did
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3.28 will change everything
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>>553629908
you've started playing poe in affliction
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3.28 will change my diapers
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>>553629991
Yeah, it will cement the decision by tencent to put it into maintenance mode.
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>>553603609
>3.28 announcement
>got 3 replies
So people don't care about poe 1 anymore or what? It used to get 10+ replies in less time
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>>553629971
Chris good
Jonathan bad
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>>553630138
BFR was never good fucking newfag
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torchlight infinite vorax season will save arpgs.
>>
Jonathan lied
Chris stepped aside
PoE died
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>>553630040
wrong and retarded
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2>1

It's a fact.
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>>553631096
Only if you're brown and have a double-digit IQ
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>>553629498
>>553629617
Belts! lol
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>>553631191
In truth, if you're brown and have a double digit IQ, chances are your PC does not meet minimal requirements for PoE 2 at all
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PoE1 players would get filtered by the temple.
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>>553631971
poe1 mazefreak divine orb clickers are the ones farming the temple
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>>553631884
Sure thing, Paco.
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>>553632098
You should be glad that they've moved on then, you should do the same instead of fixating on 1, it will help you not feel so miserable
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>>553632195
True, comparison is the thief of joy. Don't focus on the actual good ARPG. Just eat the slop from Jonathan and don't think.
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>>553632487
Okay, do as you please
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>>553631191
2>1

Is an axiomatic fact, you absolute troglodyte.
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>>553632487
kino 1 button div/h poe1 blasters stay winning
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>>553632676
poo1tards reject the peano axioms
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all those people who got converted to 2 gonna feel like shit when they go back to 1
just saying : }
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>>553632865
going back to poe1 from poe2 feels incredible
its so smooth and not clunky and gay
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>>553632998
>Yes, the game with faster and smoother combat and more depth is going to be jarring to go back, too. Retard
PoE1 plays like shit compared to PoE2.
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give me ideas
i want to shit up my screen with as many effects and chaos as possible
what weapon/skills should i use/combine
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>>553632743
What in the nigger...
>>
SPRINT
HEAVY
STUN
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>>553633394
self-report
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>>553632998
>And Poo 2 being a worse than game than PoE is, too.
trvke
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whenever i see ds lily i feel the need to JACK OFF
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what other tweaks can i do to make this better?
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>>553632743
>knee gaming
pvre vtter kino sovl
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poo2? smells bad. smells like shit.
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>>553633510
do it
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>>553633510
I jerk off once a day and I'm good.
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>>553628920
Cant wait for swords to be as cucked as maces
You vvill use the power charges to spin!
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>>553632942
>going back to poe1 from poe2 feels incredible
>its so smooth and not clunky and gay

This. First thing i do is blink / flamedash
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what happened to the game
suddenly crashing like every map
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>>553634513
sounds like your pc is dying
hope you got some money saved up lil guy
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>poorfag's brain is still trying to calibrate to reality after dreaming of seamless gameplay on an actual good pc
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>8d for a 2 charm headhunter
>which buys you literally nothing btw
fucking hell this economy is raped
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Path of fat shits
Path of fat shits 2
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>>553634602
i just played dead island 2 for 5 hours with no issues
ggg fucked something up
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>>553635146
AMD card?
I crashed a lot more this patch than usual too but I'm on nvidia. I don't think I ever crashed last patch.
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is the league going to spontaneously implode once all the temple farmers realize their loot is worthless?
the divine price of every unique is rapidly approaching zero and the value of divines themselves is crumbling
back to the mappie cage, poe2ies
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>>553635656
they don't care they just want to see the white background red font drops and hear the tink sound
the loot literally does not matter
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>>553635429
nvidia
very little crashes until today
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>>553635656
>omen of light almost 30
back to fishing rares out of the cloud I guess
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>CI Grenades/Mortar Cannon Oracle with Soul Tether leech
I hope this still exists next league
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>>553636186
I'm doing ice shot CI amazon and leeching with essentia sanguis. She has an ascendancy where leech is based off of elemental damage as well as physical. Shit is great
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>>553636186
>Soul Tether leech
Not so fast, you WILL recharge your energy shield and you WILL like it
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>>553636734
He coulda deleted the gloves but he didn't
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>enjoy doing free sekk carries

There's nothing like getting a fuck ton of boons and just blasting through everything. I mean maps are the same thing but you're also helping people
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>people rmting in the second wind
grim
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so this was just a lie?
>>
nnnnnnnnnnnnnniGGGers
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>>553637879
I guess that would skirt too close to p2w private leagues which they've said they will do anything possible to avoid
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>>553640009
obvious solution is to just void it
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>>553640009
simple solution: if phrecia is applied to a private league, it is a void league
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>>553637879
It just wasn't popular enough
>>
What's sad is that so called "content creators" cannibalize their own games with shit like these private leagues. They aren't neccessary. They aren't needed. But they exist because if these people ever turn off POE2 the viewers all go away, since they aren't actually very entertaining.
>>
how does that imply cannibalizing their own game
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>>553641501
worse, it was too popular
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>>553642098
Yep, these private leagues are just for streamer's views and not the community. Who the fuck wants to play ARPG's 24/7?
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>replacing limb
>animation starts playing
>rare from next room wanders over
>volatile plants kill me before I can do anything
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is this the end of poe?
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>>553645029
It had a good run
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>>553644857
owned
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>>553635959
>>553635959
>TFW I have 30 omens of light
It's a fun farm, very satisfying. I just wish I knew how to get the other abyss monsters to drop them. There must be a way
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>>553644857
meaningful combat
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>>553647218
Thanks for screenshotting the most mundane interaction possible. Even the schizos are worse in Poo 2.
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>>553644857
>have full set of limbs
>get bored with my spectres, try to go find new ones to fuck around with
>reload from checkpoint in a map
>all limbs disappear
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>>553635959
>fracturing orbs almost 30
did the bug just make them stop dropping altogether?
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>day 3 of the new zealand niGGGers keeping a selection of players out of the temple by stopping spymasters from dropping lock medallions
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>>553649060
you aren't entitled to locks, chuddy. Should've bought the 480 dollary doo supporter pack for better luck.
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i dislike the atlas passives for rogue exiles
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>>553649060
owned
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>>553635656
I've had 2 omen of light in 80 hours and nothing else.
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its been a month, the league is officially over

GIVE US 3.28 NOW YOU BASTARDS
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2 tubbed games
1 tubbed general
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I think I've seen one spymaster in 2 days
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how do people achieve merchant pages like this? where everything is giga end game expensive gear? what is the strategy here besides playing a lot
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>>553653001
this
and make it a good ssf ruthless league
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3.28 is coming
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>>553630119
u wot m8
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>>553655360
I'm talking about schizos devoted to shitting this general in the name of poe1
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3.28 will be the most tubbed shit in the history of poe, literally 5 days of development by two (2) pulled out from poo two burnt out and shit.

it will be Abyss 2.0 but way slower and shittier loot.
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>>553655416
There's nothing to talk about. The league is two months away.
>>553655874
They aren't going to tubify past league mechanics after Breach was so hated, retard.
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>try to go to hideout
>see this
okay then
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christ pantsu shut up
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ok im done with the crashing peece
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>>553656126
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT OUR FAULT IT'S THE SHITTY NVIDIA DRIVERS NOOOOOOOOOO DON'T STOP PLAYING PLEASE
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>he's still farming temple
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Lightning Storm is genuinely a skill out of PoE1. There's no way they thought this was balanced.

>long duration skill anyone can use to apply AoE shock and other things, which makes it easier to chill and can even clear on its own with a few shock-related supports.

Grasping Vines or whatever is insane too, it's like 5-10k base physical spell damage for pressing 1 button.
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>>553656459
why not, still 2 more months to poe1 league anyway
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>>553656483
Okay, and? PoE 2 is the sequel of PoE 1
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>>553656807
All skills must be shitty because that's fun or something.
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>poe 1 has 300000 skills and 5 support gems
>poe 2 has 3 skills and 85674568 support gems
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>>553657238
it only has this many supports because a lot of them have multiple levels that are considered different gems
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3905344

looks like other people are also experiencing the same crash as me
what in damnnation have they done
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>2 Abysses in boss arena
>They spawn 10 rares at once
>Slowed as a fuckload of effects spawn on me
>Die without being able to do anything
WOW. VERY COOL.
>>
Ranged really is OP. You wouldn't believe how much shit in this game you can dodge by slowly circle strafing. A lot of bosses you can be point blank in their face and dps them completely unharmed by slowly moving in one direction.
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>>553659593
Diablo 4 unironically fixed this by giving melee access to flat damage reduction
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>>553660015
Yeah but there are no melee classes or melee-exclusive passives in PoE, so any buff to melee ends up being stronger on ranged
Gr8 game design right?
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Is it possible to hit 100% deflection?
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>>553659593
They should add a support gem that just teleports you to who you're attacking. Everyone is all "monk so good" then he just teleports all over the place with whatever attack
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>>553660172
Just like my Japanese anime!
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>>553660172
Every melee skill is either aspiring to be flicker or is secretly just ranged
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>>553616783
fitting endgame for poo1
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>>553660172
They should just let melee attacks cancel dodge rolls.
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>>553658661
Protip
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>>553660716
reminder they copied it for poo2 while removing the unique new endgame mechanic
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>>553658118
shit the tub
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>>553660157
only coping poe1 players reach 100% deflection
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>>553661082
Oneshots are an invention of reddit. They don't actually exist.
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>>553661391
trvke, but i dont see how this relates to my post
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doodoo2? big stink.
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>>553622089
I saw this coming since ggg didn't nerf the temple
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>>553625419
I tried but playing through this slog twice in a month was just too much for me.
I quit before I reached act 2. SORRY TRI I'M NOT HARD ENOUGH
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this general is more dead than poo1
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>>553661391
retard
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>>553662012
I like it better than playing through 1's campaign. Feels like it's about half the length.
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another run another W
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(poe1) Is there any herald bomber variant with good single target?
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>>553632487
>poo1
>actual good ARPG
lmao

while it was good years ago it's dogshit today
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>>553663123
you're just playing the game wrong, do ssf ruthless
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JONATROON
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>>553653001
>he still plays poo1
lmao
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>>553660154
add to weapons? i dunno
>maces have some inherit damage reduction built in to the weapon
>need to assign x amount of skill gems to get the benefit from it so you can't just use a dummy mace for dmg reduction
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>>553654789
playing the content that drops that shit multiple hours a day
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going back to poe1. What's the best way to farm gold?
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>>553662917
pbod inqui
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the way ggg is making builds out to be in poe 2 is literally the gayest, most mind numbing boring shit ive ever played in a video game

>es only
>every spell in the game exists to cast on crit comet
>randomly put down stupid fucking orbs that spawn a pickup to empower 1 spell cast
>uniques do nothing
>everyone picks same keystone
>everyone annoints same passive
>because nothing else is good
>everyone uses same amulet and rings
>everyone uses same weapon
>because if it doesnt have +max skill its vendor trash even with 6 t1 rolls
>if you want to play melee you have to fight not falling asleep watching ytour dude jump in the air in slow motion every attack while everyone else 1 taps the screen without stopping

i have 3 characters in end game and its so fucking boring holy shit, i can literally swap every piece of gear between them and nothing changes
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>>553664893
thought that i should point out about penance brand of dissipitation in poe1 but instead i would just call you a retard, and you are also raped
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>>553665349
ive never used that stupid fucking skill shut the fuck up
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>>553665349
retard
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>they're calling 3.28 an EXPANSION
it will go HARD, gonna be a BANGER
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>>553664893
actual retard
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>>553668156
its going to go as hard as the last endgame expansion (secrets of the atlas)!
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>>553668426
you will see poo2 sissy it will be HARD
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>sunder feels like shit
>earthquake feels like shit
>stampede feels like shit
>supercharged slam LOL
>forge hammer feels like shit
>shield slam feels like shit, is clunky but actually does damage
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>>553668480
I miss when supercharged slam was good it was an actual fun skill but it got tubbed
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>>553668480
Just play wyvern and pretend you're swinging a huge axe and not your gay furfag wing.
Also you forgot earthshatter, which doesn't feel like shit, BUT it gets fucked up by abyss pits and other geography and doesn't create rocks if something is blocking it, so you can end up being unable to attack.
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>make melee le slow meaningful combat (maces)
>literally everything else in the game goes at light speed and clears screen with 10k es
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ALL they have to do to make melee feel good is to remove the gay retarded pointless +1 second attack time on skills but they refuse to do so
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>>553669147
Can you write specifically what would that do? Cuz I sure as fuck still wouldn't use rolling slam because it looks stupid, nor would I use sunder because it looks stupid.
The only skill it would actually improve a bit is leap slam, which has no business being as slow as it is.
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quarterstaves are melee too, chuds.
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>>553669360
retard
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>>553669147
melee will never feel good no matter what they do
the only way to make melee good is to turn it into a spell. Walking up to a guy and hitting him with your weapon will never be playable in PoE
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>>553669147
nobody will play it still if there are builds running around like coc comet. you've got shit like the diablo 2 auradin on fucking steriods that requires the bare minimum interaction with the game and you think people are going to opt for dodge rolling and watching rolling slam take 3 seconds to complete
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melees are for gays
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>>553669407
>whirling assault
>aoe extends off screen and through walls
>"melee"
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i hate waging yo yo yohelp
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>>553669836
Same
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>>553669807
The only good "melee" skills are spells that scale off weapon damage
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>how to make melee good
>make flicker enable to generate frenzy while flickering
>port in frost blades
>port in pre-nerf molten strike
>steel skills
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>>553670040
retard
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>play le private league
>no items on trade
not what I expected with 20k 'people' playing
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>>553670040
steel skills are basically confirmed since we already have the impale mechanic
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>>553670887
have you check the league option in the trade site
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>>553671010
yes
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whirling assault is a single step in the right direction, but is still weighed down by gay railroaded herald of charged staff builds and +lvl weapon

>>553670905
the sword skills are elemental (you can see duelist from the trailer do the fire sword plunge thats in the game files)
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>>553671152
>no regular version
grim
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Reminder hopechads always triumph
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>>553671528
Hope (cope) cucks have never won, not once
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ggg hard at work i see
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>>553671265
glorified goddamn ssf
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>>553671878
Everyone's playing Second Wind and not Pohx league
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>>553672321
how's the item availability in it? desu I wouldn't expect it to be different apart from campaign items farmed by dadgamers
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>>553672475
the market for actual gamers is way better than for the average dadpleb, its pretty kek
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>>553672321
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we are getting there
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hello dear sers is league playable now
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>>553672475
I don't really buy rare gear often so I might be missing some angle, but it feels to me like it's pretty decently supplied but definitely less than normal SC trade.
Things like megalos, heroic tragedies are available in smaller quantities but not non-existent.
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>>553673038
which? There are 4 leagues right now
either way, no
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>>553673165
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>>553673554
coo, coo, muh nigga
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miakitten sexo
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>>553673554
he also gets to fuck tranny bussy
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>>553668480
>>shield slam feels like shit, is clunky but actually does damage
shield wall also feels like shit but does even more damage
resonating shield feels great but does no damage
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>>553669360
It's insane how much better the shapeshift skills feel in comparison to mace skills. I hope they rework the animations for maces.

>>553669484
Shapeshift melee felt pretty good to me. My main issue was with the limited skill pools per form since they went for 3 forms straight out the gate. Would've been better had they released just 1 or 2 forms for now. Wolf literally has one way to play it there's no optional skills or anything to swap to.
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why didn't they make rapid assault auto target the nearby enemies like multistrike/zeal? it would be really nice to play if it did but since it doesn't you have to constantly animation cancel to use it
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>sold an unid Atziri's Spendor for 150 divs last week
>now the cheapest is 300 divs
Fucking inflation
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>>553673554
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neat
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>>553675557
all worthless in the inflation league
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>>553675654
dunno a couple runs and i can still buy expensive shit
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>>553675026
>I hope they rework the animations for maces.
I don't think it's an animation problem, I think it's a confluence of things, some of those things are legitimate problems (skills being buggy, or very conditional and not worth the effort), and some are possibly ok design choices that just feel like shit in the current state of the game (too few gems, wacky balance).
The pre-built combos really limit creativity when you have so few gems, mace skills come only in 2 flavors, combo and "slow windup big (not big enough) payoff". The game needs 2-3 extra "smack guy, something IMMEDIATELY happens" skills, because as it is, you have to use either autoattack, or you have to pick one of the slow skills/combos and do your best to make them tolerable.

>Wolf literally has one way to play it there's no optional skills or anything to swap to.
This is pretty true but honestly they made a pretty good foundation for all 3 forms and combining them. Now we just have to hope they don't plan to keep the "2 new skills per tier lol" shit forever, cuz it makes the game feel really empty.
I think they're focusing too much on creating diverse skills each with their unique animation. It's laudable but it makes the game feel empty and no one would bitch if they reskinned a few animations to create meaningfully mechanically different skills you can choose from.
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To me, it seems like there's a lot of players who essentially hate the game and think it sucks. I get that there's bad parts about the game but to many the whole game seems filled with them.

And they have hundreds of hours put to it, and are active on the forums.

I can see that forums are mostly used for venting negative experiences; as humans we have a bias for negativity and are more likely to give negative than positive feedback.

But many of those players have a post history of months or a full year full of telling how much the game sucks.

So.. Why they spend time playing the game and spend time in its community?

I just don't get it. PoE1 and 2 have had some of the most negatively minded players I've seen. I haven't seen this much negativity in GW2 or ESO or D2 or Warframe or CS or NWN or Overwatch (games that I've played more than a hundred hours).
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>>553676870
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1qbov0x/one_thing_i_never_understood_about_part_of_the/
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>>553676870
Basically GGG "promised" (or perhaps we also assumed) that poe1 is getting a very big update, what came out is not what the community expected and the community quickly turned on GGG because prior to the poe2 launch, poe1 community endured a year of no new league which is extremely unusual but the community still have hope for the grand vision.

When poe2 launched, the state of the game is very unfinished (as early access title would usually be) but also there's a growing discontent on how poe2 is taking away so many resources from the already well established poe1 and as a result, delivered no new meaningful content for poe1 for over a year and poe2 was so different from the poe1 formula. The much slower paced gameplay is so vastly different from poe1 it might be an entirely different game. Lots of veterans poe1 players feel very much betrayed by GGG but still loved poe1, and some of them acted in very aggressive and verbal ways, including attack on the devs team and the game poe2.

I as both a poe1 and poe2 enjoyer see both the good and the bad, I will admit I did get very frustrated when I have to wait more than a year waiting on the shipdock for poe2 to come out but I do enjoy the slower gameplay and understand what GGG is aiming for. POE2 is trying to give a new ARPG experience, albeit a very unpolished one that doesn't necessarily match it's predecessor at launch. I enjoy both games but poe2 needs so much more work to remotely compare to poe1 in build diversity and endgame content options. It just needs time.

Lastly you still have the mediocre league in recent poe1 that might have angered quite some of the fan base which only further fuelled the fire. I understand why some of the individual are angry, they have proper reason to be. At the same time we do also need to acknowledge how poe2 0.3 and 0.4 made some great progress and Im really excited for 0.5 for the endgame rework.
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>>553676870
Because the game does a good job at mazing you, you're always thinking mmmh maybe this patch fixed this or that, maybe if i get that node or a new weapon it will feel good, and it does for a brief moment but after that all the bad things are still there.
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>>553677396
>replying to a reddit post
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>>553677394
it's still bizarre that we get a year long poe1 league and poe2 is still incomplete
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Here's the core issue of doomers:

They are mostly incredibly stupid and/or casual normalfags, and thus they lack the capacity to meaningfully interface with either game. Because of that they are unable to make any true qualitative statements and if they do it's always extremely myopic and surface level stuff like "poe2 crafting BAD" but they can't substantiate these claims once challenged. That's why they pretty much all latched onto the most normalfag of critiques: muh metrics. To any level headed person it's self evident that these posts reek of desperation and are so fundamentally retarded that it's not worth engaging with them, which in turn provides doomers with a false sense of accomplishment, because they think they actually have a solid point. Where it truly falls apart however is that numerically PoE1 is doing a lot worse than PoE2. Once you point that out they invariably fall back on insults. They've self cast themselves into a culture war which they are losing from the outset. It's embarrassing.
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Connor says 3.28 should be delayed
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>>553676240
>I don't think it's an animation problem
With maces I do think there's a fair few skills where the animation is a big part of the problem. Sure, the attack timing would likely need to be redone but it's related to the animations being ridiculous. You can't just speed them up to fix it.

>skills being buggy, or very conditional and not worth the effort
This is overall an issue with many skills in PoE2. Spears probably suffering from it the most. Almost every skill in the spear category is conditional somehow.

>and some are possibly ok design choices that just feel like shit in the current state of the game (too few gems, wacky balance)
Agreed but if this is the case they shouldn't have included those skills yet. It's only leading to a bunch of misaligned feedback and anger from the playerbase as we don't have access to the full vision yet.

>The game needs 2-3 extra "smack guy, something IMMEDIATELY happens" skills
Yes absolutely.

>I think they're focusing too much on creating diverse skills each with their unique animation
It's funny because if they made some of those simpler press button thing happens skills they wouldn't need such complex animations for them.
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>>553677658
MOTHER OF ALL TRVKES
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>>553677658
the poo2 crafting is bad because it feels bad. nobody actually wants to handle 200 white bases for a finished good item. the experiment sounds good/fun on paper, but only when the ceiling for items is much much lower.
you don't have a bigger brain for enduring the pain of handling the poo2 crafting.
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>>553677394
had poe2 been the 4.0 update the game would've been doa
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>>553677658
>surface level stuff like "poe2 crafting BAD"
POE2 crafting actually good, it's so unfrustrating and comfy to just randomly throw currency at ground loot and maybe get a 50d item, or immediately forget about it if you don't.
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i'll just leave my threadly poo2 nuke here
>this is a good thing
yeah sure, anon
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>>553671152
>200% of 50% of armour
The fuck is this wording
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>>553677921
it's good if you play like that, but if you wanna make a specific item it's a trash system.
also, throwing shit on the wall and see what sticks gets old fast if 99 out of a 100 times the thing doesn't stick.
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>>553677534
All genuine threads start from fake posts, you have to trick people into having a discussion.
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>>553677921
it's good if you just play like a casual shitter, but if you wanna actually blast it's complete and utter dogshit. and let's face it, the genre is all about blasting, not about dadgaming.
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>>553677921
That's not crafting. Actual crafting requires a bazillion items you won't see until endgame.
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>>553678237
technically it is crafting, it's just not targeted crafting. also, watch them say:
>not being able to "just" make an item you want is LE GOOD
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>>553678078
See, this is exactly it. You don't know shit and just talk from your casual experience. Do you seriously think people are buying hundreds of these?

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate%20of%20the%20Vaal/zj425Vmh4

The answer is obviously no, because you can deterministically craft the entire thing.
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we got a bit more than a year until it's gonezo
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>>553678504
>using nu-chaos orbs or annul/pexalts worth more than a couple mirrors is deterministic crafting anyone can do
yeah no, i don't think so.
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>>553678504
that's like saying
>you can just chaos orb spam into a perfect all t1 item in poe1 if you do it long and hard enough
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>>553677991
You get 10% spell suppress.
That gives you 5% chance that, when you get hit, you apply 200% of your armour to that hit.

>>553678078
>but if you wanna make a specific item it's a trash system.
It's not hard to make specific items in POE2 rn, omens and desecration are pretty deterministic.

>>553678174
>it's good if you just play like a casual shitter
It's how good players play POE2 both in SSF and in trade, you don't have to take my word for it, you can just observe.

>>553678237
>Actual crafting requires a bazillion items you won't see until endgame.
Just throw the currency you have (or can buy) at items you have (or can buy) in a way that makes sense to achieve a certain outcome.
I'm not saying you have to like it, I'm saying I like it, because it gives me good items and currency from trade, and because the time spent being frustrated at bad outcomes is minimal, and bad outcomes often aren't even costly (barring some 6 line crafts, but the game is so undertuned you don't even need to aim that high).
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>>553678832
anon, people in ssf don't run with perfect or near perfect items, because the content is so watered down, you don't even close to need it.
the best way to craft a specific item in poo2 is find a half-done one and finish the other side with essence-essence-desecrate, that's not "good crafting"
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>>553678832
>it's determinism because if you use a prefix/suffix omen enough times you will hit
big brain take
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>if i play the lottery enough times i will win, so it's determinism
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>>553678816
It's really not that bad.

>aug annul until "all spells" of your prefference + any prefix
>crit essence
>annul prefix
>slam any suffix
>whittle until t1 cast speed
>desecrate + mana prefix
>slam annul until you hit desired prefixes
>omen of light
>desecrate missing 3rd prefix
>optional: lock for 3 socket or +1spell

This will cost you about half a mirror, for an almost perfect item, except that it has t2 instead of t1 crit. And it's 100% deterministic.
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>>553679359
>just spend half a mirror if you want to deterministically craft an item
you're right i was very wrong, this is actually great crafting!
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>>553679203
Sorry if I used the wrong word. What I'm trying to say is that you can skew the odds using omens and desecration quite significantly, which lets you target specific affixes in a way that ensures that you won't take many attempts to get a decent tier.

>>553678975
I'm just telling you that I like the system. I'm not particularly worried about whether it's considered "good crafting" or not, I'm just saying I'm finding it enjoyable and in particular compared to POE1 crafting, which is more comprehensive but also more frustrating for me. Like I explained, the pain points of POE2 crafting are very short and you don't even think about them. I am still mad about missed Aisling slams from years ago.
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>>553678832
I just think it's a bad system because most of of the players will never engage actual crafting and i also think that's by design.
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>>553679359
somehow the crafting in poo2 is even worse than it was in poe1 lmao
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>>553679359
xD
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>>553679495
>getting perfect gear should be cheap and easy
See, I'm 100% correct on my assessment. You guys are retards and casuals.
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>>553679359
ok, but how do i make a mid tier item that has the same mods, just 2-3 mods at a worse tier? oh, you can't?
how do i make a mid-tier item that has 4 or 5 of these mods? oh i can't?
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>>553679701
Tell me the mid tier item you want and I'll tell you how to get it.
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>>553679693
my issue isn't that perfect gear is hard to make, it should be like that. the issue is that this is the only "real" crafting in the game, and there is practically no way to make anything worse and cheaper than this, except "just slam random items you find until you hit good"
you were the one that assumed i wanted perfect stuff, i want mid to good stuff to craft, but you can't exactly do that
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>>553679701
retard
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>>553679804
>proceeds to make a tradesearch
a ring:

T1 Life
T2 Res
T2 Res
T1 Cast speed

rest of the mods doesn't matter, don't involve buying a bunch of bases and hitting them until i hit
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I would like to know how many people like this system and how many don't like it but don't care because you can just buy good items on trade.
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>>553679568
I don't really judge systems by how other players engage (or don't) in them, I go by my own enjoyment.
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>>553608790
>says elementalist is best
not really, with elementalist you get decent early raw damage but basically lose everything else that makes RF a good leaguestarter
>no hinekora pops
>no easy gearing / resist capping
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>in poo2 you either craft perfect items or don't craft at all
yeah i enjoy this system a lot
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>>553680753
retard
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>>553679920
1) Buy or find item with 1 or 2 of desired mods
2) aug, regal, desecrate the rest
If you don't like this, I would like to know how you would like it to be. Would you like to just add each mod one by one with different items, each with 100% chance to be the perfect mod and tier?
Feels like you should play EVE online and not POE.
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>>553681071
that's not deterministic crafting, and also involves handling hundreds of bases if you play ssf
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>>553681071
poe1 had it solved pretty well compared to this dogshit
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>>553681130
I think that was the point bro. the poo2 "crafting" system is intended to make ground loot more "meaningful"
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>>553681276
>buy a half finished item1
yeah that's a great way to make ground loot matter.
i'd say it's a good thing that you naturally evolve out of ground loot mattering after a while
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>>553679920
What you posted is not a mid tier item. But I'll show you how to craft what you want for cheap.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Fate%20of%20the%20Vaal/vew5R42jsE

Plop in any ring you want here. And buy like 3-5 of them. Literally dirt cheap.

Slam an aug, hope for life or cast speed. If not doesn't matter.

>essence of body
>catalyze it up with an element you don't have as res
>omen of catalizing + perfect ex + dextral exaltation
>will most likely hit t1 or t2 res
>catalyze caster
>omen of catalizing + perfect ex + dextral exaltation
>will most likely hit t1 or t2 cast speed
>deserate kurgal for spell damage
>slam on any 2 prefixes
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>>553681440
>buy a bunch of half finished rings
>get lucky on one
>toss the rest
case in point, shit system sorry anon
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>>553681372
I'd say that the entire loot system needs a huge rework because there's no excuse for dropping hundreds of items just to filter them all away except for T0 uniques, but GGG has dug themselves so deep in this hole they literally found China
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>>553681440
ok, but that ring don't have no life and is practically worthless, sorry chud
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>>553681523
As the other anon already asked, how should this work in your opinion?
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>>553681372
>i'd say it's a good thing that you naturally evolve out of ground loot mattering after a while

why? what purpose does that serve other than to make drops that much more worthless?
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>>553681639
retard
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>>553681659
It makes finding good ground loot feel good, it makes upcrafting ground loot feel even better, and it makes failing those upcraft gambles not even register as unpleasant, you just move on.
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>>553681597
the problem is that up to 1-2 months before EA launch all they developed and designed was campaign gameplay. the endgame item progression and gameplay is an afterthought nobody has put any thought into it up until that point.
anyone would see that "ground loot matters" should stay relevant until maybe early endgame and then making your own items should start becoming more and more important
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>>553681798
>anyone would see that "ground loot matters" should stay relevant until maybe early endgame
I think the idea with POE2 is that exceptional and tiered gear is that it stays relevant forever, and I think this is more or less like that now, at least if you value making currency of gear sales.
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>>553681641
as i said, poe1 has this solved pretty well. alterations, scours, essences that reroll items. handling multiple bases for 1 craft feels so dogshit, i can't even explain.
it seems they chose this system simply to sell more tabs to collect your "crafting projects" in
>>553681659
because if ground loot mattered up to the tippy top you'd reach a point where you look at so many items to find an upgrade, you'd look at items more than actually kill monsters. making your own items feels way better than just getting lucky.
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haven't touched PoE in a good while
honestly feels pretty good to be free from the maze
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>>553681238
I think poe1 crafting sucks
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>>553681984
>alterations, scours, essences that reroll items.
This trade-off is that it completely devalues ground loot.
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>>553681946
do you really interact with t4/t5 items at this point in the league?
it feels like even though they "roll well" you have to interact with way too many items to get a good one.
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>niggas think essence spamming a fracture base is good crafting
KEK
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>>553682105
And that's a bad thing how? Ground loot in poo2 feels dogshit to interact with, because it's such a chore - you're practically looking for a needle in a haystack of items, but you need to know what's good for other builds, and you don't even know if the needle's actually there. And there is no way to tell if the item you're looking at is a needle or hay unless you look at it.
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>>553681789
>It makes finding good ground loot feel good
????????? this directly contradicts what you just said about "...naturally evolve out of ground loot" if it's a "good thing" that it eventually becomes worthless over time.
>it makes upcrafting ground loot feel even better
okay so ground loot matters then, even if it's for crafting fodder?
>and it makes failing those upcraft gambles not even register as unpleasant, you just move on
????????????????
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>>553682190
what did you expect from "people" who unironically like alteration spamming lmao
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>>553682235
>but you need to know what's good for other builds
just like in poo1 retard
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>>553682235
>but you need to know
See, again. These are casual shitter problems. You are arguing against complexity because you're too stupid.
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>>553682190
It's better than looking at hundreds of items and tossing them tbqh
>>553682324
>using 1000 alteration on 1 bases is bad
>using 1000 transmutes on 1000 bases is good
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>>553682391
>y-yeah it's better bro trust me
I crafted multiple chaos dot quivers and poo1 has a dogshit crafting system just as poo2 you're a shitter who doesn't play the game
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they will be releasing the 0.5 endgame teaser the second weekend of 3.28
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>>553682343
>you're only good if you know what all builds need, not just your build
yeah idk but that's not complexity
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>>553682261
get checked for autism
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>>553682119
If they're interesting bases I do, regardless of the point in the league, I like to gamble.

>you have to interact with way too many items to get a good one.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't "have" to do shit, I do what I feel like and don't do things that I don't feel like doing, and it works out.

>>553682261
>this directly contradicts what you just said about
That wasn't me sorry.

>okay so ground loot matters then, even if it's for crafting fodder?
Yes, ground loot matters in poo2.

>????????????????
The POE2 crafting isn't frustrating because you have many cheap, quick attempts to get lucky. I like this.
POE1 crafting can be INCREDIBLY frustrating, I'm sure you agree even if you love the game like I do.
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>>553681238
poe1 crafting is absolute dogshit from needing encyclopedic knowledge regarding crafting to having to interact with a half dozen different sources (harvest, bestiary, recombinator, etc.) to trading for materials/item bases it's absolute dogshit...
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>>553682465
it's not perfect, but it's better than handling hundreds of bases
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I was bored so i started theorcrafting another fake ascend. I think it both lacks focus but also more generic nodes. It was meant to be a minions / str stack / str bow ascend. Hire me GGG
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>>553681238
lol
lmao even
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holy cringe
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they made ground loot actually matter in poe1 with high% bases, unironically more interesting than poo2
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Anybody who thinks PoE1 crafting is superior has never crafted a good item in it.
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>>553682740
what compels a man to think of totems as cool
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>>553682873
so did poo2 with exceptional bases
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Any good recommendations for fire aligned monsters for Bind Spectre?
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>>553682973
make it nearly impossible to craft on them because poo2 has no good crafting
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>>553683040
retard
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>>553682630
>having to interact with a half dozen different sources (harvest, bestiary, recombinator, etc.)
I don't mind that, it's just a consequence of each league mechanic adding more crafting tools. I think it's interesting
What I hate is alt/chaos spamming. Just clicking over and over and over until your item highlights is literally the worst gameplay in the game and arguably the only reason crafting is profitable
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>>553682630
so instead of learning the complexity you advocate for removal of said complexity and remove everyone's chance of making good items?
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>poe1 crafting
>allocate passive in the wombtree
>wait for your item to drop
it's not that hard
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>>553683623
Why are you saying that like it's somehow absurd?
It's totally reasonable.
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>>553683623
>chance
yes
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>>553683623
a system doesn't have to be (needlessly) complex to be rewarding. I don't see how the two are directly interwoven at all. the system isn't just complex either, it's broken but for the sake of argument lets say it's only real issue is it's overly complex; that complexity itself filters out people from making good items. poe2 is attempting to fix this.
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>>553684078
nobody is saying that.
but poe1's system isn't needlessly retarded, it's just grown over years and years. newsflash: the poo2 system will also grow over the years, it has already grown, and will eventually become just as complex.
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>>553680753
thats not true at all. B+ items are flat out too easy to craft with gessence of abrasion and pessence of battle and deterministic omen desecrations on amulet/ring.
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>>553679920
>T1 cast speed
if you're going to metatroon you're going to have to pay up.
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rate my haul
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>gessence
>pessence
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>>553681440
>catalyze caster
>omen of catalizing + perfect ex + dextral exaltation
>will most likely hit t1 or t2 cast speed
LMAO you've never done this craft.
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>>553688406
abrasion is fucking trash lmao
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>>553688824
T3 flat phys is all you need in this game why pretend otherwise?
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>>553689038
need vs want
you don't need to play the game either
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>>553689224
The reasonable way to play a videogame is to see which options you have at your disposal and use the efficient ones.
I don't know why you think you're entitled to creating good items out of thin air. POE1 wasn't like that either.
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>>553689524
yeah the reasonable way to play is to buy your items.
making them yourself is a no-starter in poop 2
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>>553689653
retard
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>>553689653
is poe1 really letting players craft T1 flat phys for free? surely it's not that much of a baby game?
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>>553689871
of course not, making phys weapons is fucking pain
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>>553690183
just recomb, sis
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>>553689653
>yeah the reasonable way to play is to buy your items.
dunno I prefer just throwing what currency I have at items I find and trying to make them better, feels good when it hits and I see my numbers go up by thousands.
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Which one would you pick?
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>>553690871
I'd pick Doryani and vendor it.
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>>553690871
Ultimately I'd rather have Spirit on my Amulet than my Chest if I needed additional Spirit. If I didn't I'd choose Life.
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>>553690871
both rlly goid, i'd say if theres no immediate good benefit to the extra spirit rn then id go the life, but if its a spirit starved build then obvs go that
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>>553690871
Life pairs nicely with the % life on the amulet but spirit isn't a bad choice either. If you're making it to sell price check.
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>>553690871
remnants effect
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tub2? full of shit
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>early march 3.28
>mid march 0.5
LMAO, y'all can't even see past their bullshit
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>>553696270
>>mid march 0.5
Lole. It'd either be super late in April or early May.
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>>553696270
>>mid march 0.5
isn't their model 3 leagues a year not 4? 0.2 came out early April just for reference
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>>553696848
it will be early april, most likely the 10th.
3.28 will get a couple of weeks before the 0.4 teasers start.
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>Ziggy also said he thinks that poe will go into "maintenance" mode with the release of poe2 1.0 and that the community "wasnt ready for it yet" when poe2 early access 0.1 came out.
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>>553697659
ziz is the eos poster
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https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/Xurande-3424/DonaRaio?i=0&search=class%3DBlood%2BMage%26skills%3DSpark%26linkedgems-Comet%3DCast%2Bon%2BCritical%26keystones%3DBlood%2BMagic%26items%3DChoir%2Bof%2Bthe%2BStorm%252CSoul%2BTether%26min-level%3D89%26max-level%3D91%26sort%3Ddps

I'm mostly following this guy's build right now. So is this guy using Frost Wall and curses on his 2nd staff with +cold skills to buff up meteor and frost wall dmg? But why doesn't he use Equilibrium as well?
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>>553697659
>it was real in my mind
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i cant wait until march....
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3.28 will have a peak player count of 184k
Screenshot this.
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On "maintenance mode"
1) POE has had very small-scale (some would say modest) content updates for years if not decades, with tons of asset reuse and making more with less. You could say it already is in maintenance mode.
2) The idea that they want or need to release even less of it is silly, because they're already running a very lean ship and making good money. So memes like "eos" and "maintenance mode" are just retarded.
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Man, why is the endgame boss design so fucking garbage in both games? No wonder people are desperate for builds that one-phase all of them.
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G R I M
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>>553698845
ggg hasn't made a good fight since Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.
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>>553699005
It seems like most of their design revolves around cheap one shots.
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poe2? more like PU LMAO
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>>553699005
I like all the act end bosses except the Karui guy
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>>553699391
you're wrong.
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>>553699221
That's what happens when you make player characters essentially immortal to anything but those raw big damage hits thanks to regen/leech/ES.
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>>553699221
>design a game with instant recovery and clearing screens instantly
>forced to make everything an on-death oneshot
>make a sequel
>make the same design decisions
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>>553699005
Neither of these are good fights though Uber Elder is at least finely tuned to properly gearcheck you without being full of difficult to avoid oneshots and unfun shit like minigames.
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>>553699654
retard
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>>553699563
I was willing to engage with it for a while but when I saw that PoE1 bosses mostly have a couple fuck you attacks and are otherwise uninspiring, at this point I don't even feel bad looking up the mechanics.
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you will NEVER seen a poo1 baby more angry than after you suggest playing a build that has to engage with game mechanics
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I engage with mechanics by making a build so powerful that I no longer need to interact with mechanics.
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@553699887
stfu stfu stfu niggerstfu stfu stfu niggerstfu stfu stfu niggerstfu stfu stfu nigger
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>>553699887
lol true

all they wanna do is click around the map picking up tinks

if there were a map that randomly dropped tinks as you moved through it with 0 monsters they'd love it
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>>553699727
I don't care for your opinion if you think Atziri is a good fight kek, it shows you're a tasteless animal.
Uber elder I can almost forgive cuz it has loot at least.
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0.4.1 will shave PoE2.
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>poe1 players enjoying a rich, robust gameplay experience
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>>553700248
Let me guess, you're a braindead 2rist that dies to reflect whenever you fight her?
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>>553699887
every rpg in a nutshell.
>look at all these complex mechanics to mess around with!
>there is a single strategy that cheeses everything and 99% of players use it rather than actually play against the game's mechanics
>users often heard describing their experience as "tedious" and "boring"
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>>553700420
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>>553700420
I wonder why ggg hasn't sued them yet
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>>553700450
I'm pretty braindead but I don't know if I'd consider myself a 2rist.
If you're gonna insult me, post your 4S on any HC league. You can just put them in your inventory and screenshot them in a6 Lioneye's, you can crop all doxable info out.
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1 button gawds won
meaningful combat cels lost
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Is making a new thread too many buttons for the poe2ers in the audience?
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>>553702796
fubgun didn't make a new thread on stream so they don't understand how to do it
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SO WE'RE JUST LETTING THE THREAD DIE THEN? IS THAT WHAT POOG HAS BECOME???
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dead game
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>>553703209
It's up to you to save us.
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Didn't-even-last-a-week-bros....
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>>553703884
>>553703884
>>553703884
here you go



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